Graveyard Anonymafia - Game Over

[Kiva-la]

A crumb in a crumb
One cannot be so blind as
to insist on scum

[Kabuto]

If my lynch is what it takes to get you chumps to stop playing pants on head, I gladly volunteer myself for the effort.
I always make a good info lynch anyway. So experience tells me.

I'll get an actual post out once I get done with not-mafia, because that's much more entertaining than whatever this is. As for the other lynches, Pamela lynch interests me only marginally over Necro lynch, but I don't like either of those lynches. Bathory is bonkers but not scummy last time I checked.

[Kaku Seiga]

I still have no idea who to vote.
All this noise is really distracting.
Also for Pamela, I'm slightly leaning town now. She is looking a whole lot better compared to D1.
Kukaku should start wanting to play the game more, and with all this noise she's making, I'll be fine with her lynch.
Sid I finally get what you're doing when you point out my mistakes (thanks for that by the way, it's actually helping me ), but I as well as many others would like more opinions on other people. More than just a bit. Give as much as you can. And if you want to, you can try and convince people that I'm scum (which I'm not).
Youmu is really starting to get too aggressive. She should still calm down some more.
Count I thank you for the fakevig (which I thought for the record sounded real). It really helped getting Ayumu to finally post. Count is so town that I'll be shitting myself if he's scum.
Necro is am so confused with.
Bathory is a bit suspicious.
Everyone else is not important leaning town.

[Kaku Seiga]

>V-V-Votecount

[Kaku Seiga]

EBWOP: Should probably bold that.
>V-V-Votecount

[Kaku Seiga]

Unless what Pamela posted was an updated votecount. In that case disregard my last two posts.
Also I think I might just get a vote out there.
Vote:Kukaku Shiba
I think we could really do without a 1v1 plus all this noise is distracting. And if we have a lynch, then as Shiba said, we can get so much more information regardless of alignment (though more information if Kukaku flips scum). Also agreeing with a lot of the above reasons (sorry Sid but I do).

[Kaku Seiga]

EBWOP: I should really pay more attention.
##Vote:Kukaku Shiba

[Kabuto]

I reread the game as much as I wanted (which is very little). There's nothing to say, really. This game is such a bother; I wonder why I join in the first place? So I'll blah blah some.

I have no idea what Bathory's case on me, so I can't respond to it. However, she looks like a wordsmith compared to Reg Shoe, who is voting me as far as I can tell because I'm connected to his top suspects. Bathory looks better than Shoe here, but it's hard to tell because you're all so lurky.

Blatant parroting and lack of scumhunting intent, Kukaku is perfectly fine with that?

All you people on the Ayumu wagon had the same reasons. It's day one. I'm fine with it if the switch makes sense.

I thought the deadline was three hours later and slept right through the end. :ohdear: I don't think I could have made a difference with how things went, but still. Lady Yuyuko I'm sorry!

So that end of day distraction was pretty horrible. The last time a group of entreprenuring individuals tried to do that we weren't in a majority lynch situation. I think it's worse that the same people didn't stick around to vote BACK onto the wagon in case their last second lynch didn't go through. The same experience leads me to believe that a wagon on anything but town wasn't going to spring up out of the blue. Not interested in Pamela right now.

More of why I dislike Youmu. She herself thought the deadline was three hours later, and she's attacking people for not being around to switch to lynch Ayumu?

I'm surprised, and by that I mean incredibly suspicious that Ayumu of all people wasn't here to try and support his/her/it's own alternate wagon and kept himself voteparked the entire time, even through his flailing. I'm going to reread and decide if the people who were effectively voting for no one are worse then the already-suspicious people that derailed any chance of a lynch today. At this rate 2000 Yojanas won't be enough to sort out the zombies!

I know you say you're not suspicious of Ayumu right now for some reason, but I just wanted to say that his "votepark" was clearly support for an alternate wagon.

Shiba, no matter your alignment I'd prefer for you to want to play, one way or the other. Even if you're an evil zombie I'll treat you well in Hakugyokurou!

I was going to respond to this, but then I saw something else.

You know what I say about your scumplaining about "logic"? I've given you logic. You refuse to accept it because it'd be tantamount to admitting your scum. So, honestly, I really don't care if you "can't defend it". The reason you can't defend is because you know I'm right, and your only weapon left is to discredit me. Cry more, we'll lynch you tomorrow.

Stuff like this, yeah no. Go die in a fire.

Anyway, Count and Munak are town. Remilia and Ayumu are probably town but need to talk more. Youmu is scum. Pamela is misrepping the hell out of me, so she goes in the same negative neutral pile as Shoe. Everyone else is neutral or doesn't post enough.

[Kabuto]

Cue cries of "scum Shiba is faking her reads." Naw man, naw.

The Pamela post in question that I dislike:

This isn't a 1 vs. 1 between Youmu and Kookie This is just Kookie trying to be loud and distracting the lynch from Gardnie. I don't even see where there's a case on Youmu outside of the fact that Youmu was using the deadline issue yesterday as a scumtell. This whole debate started with Kookie arguing with Youmu to try and discredit it as a scumtell. Kookie basically came out of no where, defended Gardnie for no reason, Tried to discredit the wagon on him with weak reasoning, and is trying to make her argument with Youmu into such a big deal when it's not and forcing a 1 vs. 1 against her, and has been actively trying to get me to switch off of a Gardnie wagon onto even herself if that's what it takes.

It's amazing how blind people are to the between the lines. Kookie is being completely blatant in her intentions here.

Okay bro. Explain how the deadline issue is a scumtell.

[Kabuto]

Who is this Sid Barett guy and are what are his opinions? <-- This is a prod for opinions because there are none.
Mean Ghost Girl's latest post is hilarious. It lets her jump onto any of the bandwagons at the end of the day as she sees fit. Put her in the negative neutral pile as well.

[Kabuto]

So, this is really interesting. Is there a *reason* you're indirectly protecting your scumbuddy or is it just for the lulz? And, uh, I really don't care that you ALMOST got "an invitation to shift your vote". Your posts really imply you want him dead now and then...nothing? Just a bit curious, yanno. Possibly curiouser.

Youmu, I'm curious about your Bathory opinion. Do you actually think she's scum, or are you just throwing dirt?

We don't even know if Pamela is town.

I have strong reasons to believe Pamela is town. I see no reason to share them with the class unless she's seriously in danger of being lynched. Which she isn't, because I won't allow it.

Munak, Pamela is town because [REDACTED]. She's [REDACTED] her [REDACTED] and we're [REDACTED] [REDACTED]. It doesn't technically clear her but it's really, really unlikely to us.

I also find your hard defense of Pamela for shady reasons highly suspicious.

[Kabuto]

I still have no idea who to vote.
All this noise is really distracting.
Also for Pamela, I'm slightly leaning town now. She is looking a whole lot better compared to D1.
Kukaku should start wanting to play the game more, and with all this noise she's making, I'll be fine with her lynch.
Sid I finally get what you're doing when you point out my mistakes (thanks for that by the way, it's actually helping me ), but I as well as many others would like more opinions on other people. More than just a bit. Give as much as you can. And if you want to, you can try and convince people that I'm scum (which I'm not).
Youmu is really starting to get too aggressive. She should still calm down some more.
Count I thank you for the fakevig (which I thought for the record sounded real). It really helped getting Ayumu to finally post. Count is so town that I'll be shitting myself if he's scum.
Necro is am so confused with.
Bathory is a bit suspicious.
Everyone else is not important leaning town.

Ah, hello Remilia. Could you clarify your opinions on scummitude on the people you listed here? It's not very clear.

[Kabuto]

Youmu, I'm curious about your Bathory opinion. Do you actually think she's scum, or are you just throwing dirt?

Forgot to finish this thought. Because from what I can tell, her list of suspicions (Shiba + Necro) is pretty much the same as yours.

[DiEnd]

>.> Okay so Youmu is alot grumpier then I am. I'm sure she still likes you as an unliving person.
I didn't realize the votecount itself was messed up when I said that. And if you were really re-reading me you might realize I said I preferred going after the zombies who were quietly sitting out the lynch to either you or Necro. That doesn't seem to have worked out. I'm getting tired of you acting like we've been trying to lynch you all Day, it's overdefensive and it's a misrepresentation. It might shock you that all your reactions ~after~ and ~right now~ are helping me get comfortable voting you out of the graveyard bringing you enlightenment through the sword!

Well I don't feel too good about her after her last post. :p She is suspicious, like many of the lurkers.
There are like fourteen hours between those posts. -.- Our opinion changed because of Pamela's [REDACTED] that we decided was townie.

GODDAMNIT STOP CUTTING ME I AM THE ONE WITH THE SWORDS HERE.

[Kabuto]

Pahaha.

I didn't realize the votecount itself was messed up when I said that. And if you were really re-reading me you might realize I said I preferred going after the zombies who were quietly sitting out the lynch to either you or Necro.

But in the end you decided to go for Necro anyway? I realize you're using this guise of "WE NEED A LYNCH GUYS," but I dunno, I think scum lynches are better than going along with the flow, neh? Which is what I'm saying; I'm getting a very "go with the flow" attitude from you.

That doesn't seem to have worked out. I'm getting tired of you acting like we've been trying to lynch you all Day, it's overdefensive and it's a misrepresentation.

I can't help but be overdefensive when I have to defend myself against allegations that are made of smoke and mirrors. I've been waiting for something to defend against. Actually, that was what started this entire exchange to begin with, wasn't it? I don't like it when people say "oh you scum lol" without giving any justification, and, in fact, hand-waving justification when asked.

It might shock you that all your reactions ~after~ and ~right now~ are helping me get comfortable voting you out of the graveyard bringing you enlightenment through the sword!

Good, I hate this game anyway. It manages to piss me off to no end.

Our opinion changed because of Pamela's [REDACTED] that we decided was townie.

I'll be frank. I find Pamela's most recent posts scummier than yours. But I still have no idea what you're trying to pull with the Pamela defense.

[Kaku Seiga]

Ah, hello Remilia. Could you clarify your opinions on scummitude on the people you listed here? It's not very clear.

Kukaku: Neutral leaning scum
Count: Town
Bathory: Possibly scum
Youmu: Possibly scum
Ayumu: Leaning town
Sid: Leaning ever so slightly to scum
Pamela: Leaning town
Necro: 
Everyone else is not important leaning town.
Remilia: The towniest town that ever lived!

[DiEnd]

Yeah, in the end with zero support for my option we went with 'an option that can possibly flip scum'. We do kind of need that lynch thing, I heard it is how you narrow down the suspicious zombies. It's not fair, why do I always get ignored over the other playable characters? I work just as hard as that black-white at cases! It's hard to go with the flow when no one is going anywhere at all.

I think this exchange started with you screaming NECRO MUST LIVE and interposing yourself between me and someone you're defending for off the wall reasons. Because you both committed to the same scummy action? Yeah, it was scummy in the first place by the way. You saw an opportunity to tag along on a townie wagon at the last minute and went with it. The [REDACTED] doesn't stand for post.

And getting angry is still silly. We'll be friends again when you're cured.

[Kabuto]

Yeah, in the end with zero support for my option we went with 'an option that can possibly flip scum'. We do kind of need that lynch thing, I heard it is how you narrow down the suspicious zombies. It's not fair, why do I always get ignored over the other playable characters? I work just as hard as that black-white at cases! It's hard to go with the flow when no one is going anywhere at all.

Nah, you weren't really pushing that case at all. Sure, you had the case there, but you just left it hanging when no one else came with you.

I think this exchange started with you screaming NECRO MUST LIVE and interposing yourself between me and someone you're defending for off the wall reasons. Because you both committed to the same scummy action? Yeah, it was scummy in the first place by the way. You saw an opportunity to tag along on a townie wagon at the last minute and went with it. The [REDACTED] doesn't stand for post.

Actions are only scummy if they're something scum would do. Humour me; so you're saying town me would have kept his vote on Bogmire, on a lynch that wasn't looking like it was getting off? And instead I would have let a town read get lynched without any counterwagon? Yes, I saw an opportunity to get a non-Ayumu wagon going, and I felt like it would possibly lead to a scum lynch, which is why I switched to it! Also you say that Pamela was a townie wagon: [citation needed]. And if [REDACTED] doesn't stand for post, then I have no idea what crackpot theory you're pushing.
My problem with your Necro vote is with the way you were pushing the "case" on him. As for me, it was not so much NECRO MUST LIVE; more like, wow, that's a crap reason for a Necro vote - I wonder why someone would do that?

And getting angry is still silly. We'll be friends again when you're cured.

I always get angry when people push bad cases on me. I'd imagine a lot of other people do too.

[DiEnd]

The more you ask the less inclined I am to answer you about it. Keep fishing though, you're doing great. >.>b
It's too early for more arguing, you'll probably still be alive when I wake up anyways. Youmu can have fun answering you.

[OOO]

I smell death coming closer. Master...

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All of Munak's thought processes have been completely shut down and Munak doubts that she'll be able to get a post in before the deadline.
It also appears that Munak will not be able to get either lynch that Munak wants.

##Unvote
##Vote Kukaku Shiba

Munak does not particularly like this lynch but a lynch is better than another no lynch and deadline is very soon unless Munak's perception of time is horribly off.

[Faiz]

Kukaku: Neutral leaning scum
Count: Town
Bathory: Possibly scum
Youmu: Possibly scum
Ayumu: Leaning town
Sid: Leaning ever so slightly to scum
Pamela: Leaning town
Necro: 
Everyone else is not important leaning town.
Remilia: The towniest town that ever lived!

Are you doing this on purpose? The fact that you have YET to disagree is seriously annoying me. The fact that you have yet to add ANYTHING into points you've agreed with is seriously making me disappointed. You post that you are townie, but your actions don't show it.

@Youmu: Right now your pushing the Lynch on Kukaku by force rather then reason. Scummy?

ONE thing I have to say at the moment is that I JUST have a problem with Necro Gardna

Your last set of points is a pretty valid question, though I don't understand your last sentence.  My answer is that , I was willing to wait for more information, but more from Ayumu, and not from Pamela.  Your point about Pamela being able to post more could have equally applied to Ayumu as well.  Also, Pamela making a lame post like that after a day and a half of absence where she could think about things more simply did not show much promise, of course.

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Will be switching to Pamela for now, since I will not be here for the next 20 hours, mainly because her reasons for voting Ayumu on D1 (as to when it is right to copy and when it ain't) are simply not consistent, and is probably the worst hop on the Ayumu wagon yesterday. Other subjective things I have said already, but the above is the most damning point in my eyes.  Also okay with an Ayumu lynch, given her lack of activity and usefulness.  Sid and Count I would like to take a closer look into tomorrow, after a flip.

#Unvote
#Vote: Pamela

I dislike how you are willing to let Ayumu post more, but unwilling to let Pamela post more because of ONE post.

You JUST want her dead don't you?

I Dislike how you are basing your case mainly on the 1st real post by Pamela.

##Vote: Necro Gardna This probably will not mean much, but I prefer Necro Gardna over Kukaku

##FoS: Youmu
You getting really lazy Youmu, are your trying to coast by with forceful words rather then reason?
I feel as if your denying the questions completely, rather then even considering to answer them.
I dislike how you said yourself that we need a lynch, yet you start attacking Kukaku WITH a valuable vote.
Your actions says different from your words Youmu. Your also imposing your own Image ONTO Kukaku rather then break down a mask.

We're not lynching Pamela today. She's not scum and people voting her are either dumb or scum. You should make it clear for us! So, that leaves Necro or Shiba as a distant second. I'd really rather kill Bog, but I can go for the Necro lynch. The whole "LET'S LYNCH PAMELA WITH A FEW HOURS TO DEADLINE SO THAT TOWN NO LYNCHES" thing is bloody awful.

Wagon. NOW. I want him at L-1 in the next 8 hours or I'm going to be VERY unamused. And you do not want me unamused.

This post, What the hell is this, this is forcefully trying to pull people to your side rather then convince. You are also being overly aggressive for the wrong reasons. Your saying you want Necro and L-1 Specifically, why so?
You said you want Necro dead, But

You're doing it wrong. ☆〜（ゝ。∂）

Are you trying to magically swing the wagons again at the last minute? Even Hollows learn after getting stung the first time. 1 vs 1ing I am so cool with that you don't even know. I personally think you're much more likely to flip scum then Necro Gardna. You even used I'll get to it later again. I have to ask if you got dropped on your head though, if you seriously think people will buy your oopsie excuse if you somehow got me flipped today. More likely what you're doing is giving your vote an excuse not to be pushing a viable wagon, AGAIN. And from the sounds of it, you don't actually think Pamela is scum, so I don't get why you're arguing with us about it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Shiba Kukaku Kukananey

It would be nice to have votes on who I want right now, Bogmire is either going to flip himself or become someone who'll post more so I can finally convince people to lynch the hell out of him so hooray! I'll be around the entire time so we'll see if we can finish pushing you off the bridge. Sadly I'm not sure if it'll happen. There's definitely no one that wants to go after Sid or Remilia. (How many zombies can't remember who's playing unless you use the front page list?) There's too many suspects and not enough days to do the lynching. Ayumu's reaction was good enough that we're not interested in him.

Cut by a post that makes me want to punch it in the mouth that doesn't answer any of the questions I asked it earlier. Less bla bla more rereads and being productive.

Cut by a thing that makes even less sense then that other post. I'm just going to answer with 'lolno'.

You soon after decided that you believe Kukaku is a MUCH MUCH better target then Necro Gardna.
I find your main reason to believe that is because she attacked you.
I Seriously find your blanant denying of questions suspicious.

[Ryuki]

For lame arguments about me 'directing' a vote away from someone while acknowledging that there are 3 missing hours in the first day and that I said that I would change my vote to Ayumu if needed, I have nothing more to say.  It's just plain laziness in my eyes to not believe what I'm saying even though there's no reason to, especially in the case of Sid, who goes by the quantity 'ONE POST' instead of the quality.  As for those trying to be 'original' in their analysis (e.g going into the Ayumu wagon), like Count, I have something lengthy to say, though this isn't the right time (maybe tomorrow).  Pamela still draws my ire by only taking the scum possibilities (e.g he could say he's free of the Ayumu wagon by not voting her and go after me on D2 due to my lousy post on D1, a 2-for-1 deal!), and completely ignoring the reasons I went for her over Ayumu in the first place.  Also how laughable it is for Sid to 'not see the point of a lynch everyday' here and do the exact opposite today, 'choosing' between me and Shiba.  Well, that too, will be for another day.  Mean Ghost Girl will definitely have to justify her decision carefully, being so late on the major lynches of today.

At this point, it's not me over me with 9 (or 6) hours left, and thus, I'll be voting Shiba.  I strongly oppose this lynch due to me believing that her actions fit her words and that her opinion on me is balanced and fair (e.g agreeing with Pamela, disagreeing with Youmu), though I have no choice but to admit that defending me without quoting anything I've said for no reason is scummy, and going after Youmu for having a bad case on me without telling us how it is scummy (e.g again, there are only so many reasons to vote people) is weird at the very least.  Still so many other people I would rather lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Shiba

[DiEnd]

Go away I want to sleep ;-;
I'd think the reason Youmu wanted a lynch wagon at lynching heights at the end of the day would be obvious but okay. I don't know what part of Full Steam Ahead you shuffling zombies don't understand. If forcefulness is what it takes to get people motivated and talking, maybe even lynching then I will force each of you at swordpoint to make those votes happen. As for the voteswitch, try to remember Kukaku hadn't said anything at all today before then. Even I was wary of voting for him without giving him a chance to speak his peace. Then he ran in and declared war on me because we won't let anyone touch our town read. <_<

Also being called lazy by someone who's barely here is insulting.

[Kiva-la]

Unofficially I think Shiba is at L-1!
Necro at L-3!

I'm sticking with Necro, although I am *comfortable* with a Shiba lynch.  I am waiting for a Mean Ghost Girl post + Reg Shoe post.

[Kiva-la]

Also Shiba, please claim.

[Faiz]

Also how laughable it is for Sid to 'not see the point of a lynch everyday' here and do the exact opposite today, 'choosing' between me and Shiba.

Pretty much everyone has been going on and on about how no lynch was horrible and such, so whos not going to assume no lynch is a bad thing?
Everyone's reaction tells me how bad it is to not lynch.

[DiEnd]

Yet somehow you people still did it anyway yesterday! So, yes, I used force to push the Necro lynch because FUCK if I was gonna lynch Pamela, and fuck if I was going to let you LAZY people sit around twiddling your thumbs til two hours before deadline. I also gave reasons for voting Necro, and even Shiba, though it should have been fairly obvious already.

Just for the lulz, what questions do you think I've failed to answer? I'd LOVE to see what you have, Sid, the one who can't be bothered to post for the majority of the day. Also, while you're actually here for fucking once, how about you actually post reads. I'd LOVE to see who you think is scum. I got Necro, but who else? You don't think there's only one scum, do you!?

[Kiva-la]

Friendly reminder that there are 5 and 1/2 hours left in the day.

Doing a quick reread of Bathory, Remilia, Sid, Shiba, Youmu.

[Edible]

Votecount - Fresh edition - Now with ginger ale!

Kukaku Shiba (6): Reg Shoe, Elizabeth Bathory, Youmu Konpaku, Remilia Scarlet, Munak, Necro Gardna
Necro Gardna (4): Count von Count, Pamela Ibis, Ayumu Aikawa, Sid Barett
Pamela Ibis (1): Bogmire
Elizabeth Bathory (1): Mean Ghost Girl
Youmu Konpaku (1): Kukaku Shiba

Kukaku Shiba is at L-1!

You have ~5.5 hours remaining in the day.

[Kiva-la]

Shiba, please also do the sensible thing and place your vote on Necro.