Author Topic: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure  (Read 41908 times)

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #240 on: August 07, 2011, 02:56:22 AM »
> "Just to be clear, your definition of a better reality."

>"Tell me, Nue," says Rinnosuke, "You have heard the phrase that you cannot buy happiness, haven't you? Have you ever considered asking why shouldn't it be so?"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #241 on: August 07, 2011, 02:59:55 AM »
> Shrug.
> "Don't think I can say I've ever dwelled on it that much."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #242 on: August 07, 2011, 03:01:51 AM »
> "Probably because happiness isn't a physical material object that can be purchased or traded?  We can obtain things that grant us happiness via that object, but we cannot obtain happiness itself in a physical manifestation."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #243 on: August 07, 2011, 03:05:03 AM »
> Shrug.
> "Don't think I can say I've ever dwelled on it that much."

> "Probably because happiness isn't a physical material object that can be purchased or traded?  We can obtain things that grant us happiness via that object, but we cannot obtain happiness itself in a physical manifestation."



>"And why not?" he says. "Why can one not exchange happiness for something else they desire? Or youth? Or disease? Yet you can offer your time in exchange, and it is no less a physical object. There are so many things we cannot trade, and I see no reason to prevent it. So, I shall offer up one economy to gain another, one that shall allow us to do so."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #244 on: August 07, 2011, 03:07:06 AM »
> "And this new economy of yours will enable us to exchange immaterial objects and abstract concepts straight across for goods and services?"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #245 on: August 07, 2011, 03:09:15 AM »
> "And this new economy of yours will enable us to exchange immaterial objects and abstract concepts straight across for goods and services?"

>"Or immaterial things for other immaterial things," says Rinnosuke. "Would you trade beauty for youth? That is fine. Or you may trade goods for goods. It does not matter. Only that there are exchanges."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #246 on: August 07, 2011, 03:10:47 AM »
> "And what of those that do not have the inherent resources to keep up?"
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

Rin Kagamine

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #247 on: August 07, 2011, 03:13:51 AM »
> "So that's why you needed my essence.  You want to use my abilities to allow people to change themselves.  That about right?"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #248 on: August 07, 2011, 03:16:45 AM »
> "And what of those that do not have the inherent resources to keep up?"

>"What about them right now?" says Rinnosuke.

> "So that's why you needed my essence.  You want to use my abilities to allow people to change themselves.  That about right?"

>"And to change the universe we live in," he says.

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #249 on: August 07, 2011, 03:18:46 AM »
> "Them right now can still put in effort to get by. The system we have now bases returns more on how much effort one puts into it. The system you propose bases returns strictly on what one was lucky or unlucky to come into being with."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #250 on: August 07, 2011, 03:23:55 AM »
> "Them right now can still put in effort to get by. The system we have now bases returns more on how much effort one puts into it. The system you propose bases returns strictly on what one was lucky or unlucky to come into being with."

>"Howso?" he says. "Can one not learn to produce goods? Can one not work for another? Need one consider exchanging anything immaterial about themselves? Those who would have nothing then are the ones that have nothing now."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #251 on: August 07, 2011, 03:27:11 AM »
> "Depends on the individual skill set. What if someone only has services to offer that aren't in demand, and the only exchange opportunities are in fields that the person either hates doing or flat doesn't know how, and can't obtain the knowledge on how because they don't have anything desirable to offer in exchange for being taught?"
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #252 on: August 07, 2011, 03:32:27 AM »
> "Depends on the individual skill set. What if someone only has services to offer that aren't in demand, and the only exchange opportunities are in fields that the person either hates doing or flat doesn't know how, and can't obtain the knowledge on how because they don't have anything desirable to offer in exchange for being taught?"

>"And what if that happens today?" says Rinnosuke.

>_


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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #253 on: August 07, 2011, 03:35:50 AM »
> "Then they can still get by with whatever money they've accrued, even if just for a little while."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #254 on: August 07, 2011, 03:39:35 AM »
> "Then they can still get by with whatever money they've accrued, even if just for a little while."

>"And they cannot get by on goods they've accrued?" says Rinnosuke. "There is no difference between the scenarios, save they would have a new thing to offer up if they wished to."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #255 on: August 07, 2011, 03:45:53 AM »
> "Goods that may have important functional or emotional value."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #256 on: August 07, 2011, 03:58:37 AM »
> "Goods that may have important functional or emotional value."

>"And if they have no money, they are in the same position," says Rinnosuke. "And if they have a savings in money, why would they not have a savings in goods. You are complaining about problems that would not change no matter what is done in this regard."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #257 on: August 07, 2011, 04:00:48 AM »
> "I suppose that may be true. But then again, I haven't had the time to sit down and think about it thoroughly, and neither has anyone else, other than you."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #258 on: August 07, 2011, 04:05:46 AM »
> "I suppose that may be true. But then again, I haven't had the time to sit down and think about it thoroughly, and neither has anyone else, other than you."

>"And no one would," says Rinnosuke. "The vulgarity of money is taken as a necessity, rather than a tragedy. The gross ideal of a standard triumphs over the truth of fluidity. Nothing of value will be lost in the transition."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #259 on: August 07, 2011, 04:20:50 AM »
> "Still sounds to me like you're forcing what you think is best on the entire countryside, and making it a power grab to boot since you're the only one that's had the opportunity to sit down and think out the advantages and disadvantages of how to work the system. You're no better than the Yamato."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #260 on: August 07, 2011, 04:26:16 AM »
> "Still sounds to me like you're forcing what you think is best on the entire countryside, and making it a power grab to boot since you're the only one that's had the opportunity to sit down and think out the advantages and disadvantages of how to work the system. You're no better than the Yamato."

>"I prefer to think I offer the advantages for others to find, rather than horde them for myself as things are," says Rinnosuke. "And such wonderful advantages they are."

>_

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #261 on: August 07, 2011, 04:27:24 AM »
> "Then you'd have no problem sharing them all with everyone right before you went live with this new economy, right?"
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #262 on: August 07, 2011, 04:32:37 AM »
> "Then you'd have no problem sharing them all with everyone right before you went live with this new economy, right?"

>"In what sense?" says Rinnosuke.

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #263 on: August 07, 2011, 04:35:48 AM »
> "I don't know. Write up a flier, maybe. Or grab a tengu and have them write a news article about it. Describe exactly what's going to happen, what people can do, what people should so, what people shouldn't do, and precisely why it's better than the current system. Get your news spread around the countryside, so everyone has a chance to prepare for what's coming."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #264 on: August 07, 2011, 04:40:06 AM »
> "I don't know. Write up a flier, maybe. Or grab a tengu and have them write a news article about it. Describe exactly what's going to happen, what people can do, what people should so, what people shouldn't do, and precisely why it's better than the current system. Get your news spread around the countryside, so everyone has a chance to prepare for what's coming."

>"People didn't need to be warned about the advent of metallurgy or any other major changes to the world."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #265 on: August 07, 2011, 04:44:20 AM »
> "Were they undergoing a forced total sacrifice of a way of life when those changes occurred? Or were they able to ease their way in, slowly weaning off the old systems into the new ones?"
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #266 on: August 07, 2011, 04:47:13 AM »
> "Were they undergoing a forced total sacrifice of a way of life when those changes occurred? Or were they able to ease their way in, slowly weaning off the old systems into the new ones?"

>"Wouldn't someone who used Yamato as an insult know all about that kind of thing? Regardless, there will be market adjustments no matter what. Best to make them quick rather than drag them out."

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #267 on: August 07, 2011, 04:51:13 AM »
> "All right. If you don't want a tengu newspaper, I'll be your herald instead. It's the least I can do for breaking into your house."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #268 on: August 07, 2011, 04:57:46 AM »
> "All right. If you don't want a tengu newspaper, I'll be your herald instead. It's the least I can do for breaking into your house."

>"I would be just as happy for you to let things progress as they are," says Rinnosuke.

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Re: Nue Quest Vth Vanguard: A Z-Machine Adventure
« Reply #269 on: August 07, 2011, 04:59:58 AM »
> "Oh, but I insist."
[22:40:12] <Drake> "guys i donwloaded esod but its not workan"
[22:40:21] <Drake> REPORTED
[22:40:25] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> PROBATED
[22:40:30] <Drake> ORGASM
[22:40:32] <NaturallyOccurringChoja> FUCK YEAH

[22:28:39] <Edible> Mafia would be a much easier game if we were playing "spot the asshole"