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Hello Purvis:

Would you lecture us on Heroic Spirits?
Offer an alternative cast list for each of the seven classes, if there could be a proper 6th Grail War.

Fetch()tirade:

What is your opinion of Shikieki? (Depending on who reads this thread, your life may or may not be on the line.)
What are your music preferences?
What is your favorite season?
What, in your opinion, is your area of expertise?
On a scale of 1 to 10 (decimals allowed), rate yourself as a person.

Chaore:


--- Quote from: Killer Purvis on July 30, 2011, 05:13:29 AM ---Would you lecture us on Heroic Spirits?
Offer an alternative cast list for each of the seven classes, if there could be a proper 6th Grail War.

--- End quote ---

Gladly! Heroic spirits are in general, heroic individuals that have made a 'deal' with the world and are sentenced to act as the world's guardians. This mostly involves cleaning shit up every time some idiot fucks up and makes a magic godzilla or something, if a certain someone's comparison to a janitor is accurate. The world grants these requests and then removes the heroic spirit, upon their death, from the timestream. This means Heroic Spirits can be called to any point of time, even before they were born. Heroic spirits have a weapon or skill that symbolizes them called a 'Noble Phantasm', which is essentially a trademark from their life, King Arthur's, for example, would be Excalibur.

Heroic spirits are summoned during the holy grail war using the 'class system', which generally is an extremely picky system that chooses spirits based on their specialties and what they can do. The Heroic Spirits in most cases, are not actual heroic spirits but rather copies made by the Great Holy Grail. This means they are reliant on their summoner to provide Mana for them. Heroic spirits also are stronger or weaker based on how well known they are and where they are. It is also possible to summon fictional Heroic Spirits that never actually existed during the war, but only one instance is mentioned as far as I know, that being the Assassin of the 5th.

As for the 6th holy grail war, I'm going to work based on Fate ending- Great Holy Grail not destroyed, King Arthur ascended and no longer hogging the Saber spot.

Saber: Heroic Spirit George Washington.
I'm going to hell for this one. Assuming George Washington as a Heroic Spirit isn't too difficult, as you only need to assume A. He was in fact trained and fairly decent with a military saber B. He had the situation to make a deal with the war, his deal being America prospering would actually make some sense. He's also pretty well known, so he should meet the requirements to exist. He'd be a terror in America, but in Japan he'd probably be fairly weak.
Skills: Would probably include Riding and Commanding, perhaps a tactical skill or two. Probably low level as he isn't from the age of magic and such.
Noble Phantasm: White House- Yes. The entire White House. The original unburned version, at least. Perhaps changed by being summoned by magic to give George a homefield advantage he can use. Choosing a phantasm for him was kind of hard because George Washington probably did not have super magic weapons stashed away.
Chances of Winning: Slim. George Washington, while well known, is still mostly human. In a war such as the holy grail, He'd get a few good moments then die. But come on, George Washington written by Nasu. That'd be awesome.

Lancer: Heroic Spirit Sun Wukong.
A pole counts as a long-ranged weapon, and especially one like Wukong's. He fits the bill perfectly for being a heroic spirit, really, and even if he gets cleaned up to be human or something, not like there aren't other offenders of not being like their original form. I'm looking at you rider. i think.
Skills: Killing everything all day erryday. Prolly some Divinity as well.
Noble Phantasm: Ruyi Jingu Bang. Or the extendo pole you all know so well- It's pretty much a perfect fit, though I imagine with all the shit he stole from heaven there might be others.
Chances of Winning: Pretty High. Journey to the West is well known and Wukong is a god damn monster normally.

Archer: Heroic Spirit Hercules
Let's up the stakes! Hercules is noted to be able to be a multitude of classes, and is probably at his best as an Archer as he has his strongest noble phantasm.
Skills: Probably similar to his Beserker set, updated to reflect him not being crazy.
Noble Phantasm: I forget the name of it, but it's essentially a bow  and arrow set covered in hydraic poison. Deadly shit.
Chances of Winning: High. Hercules is a strong Heroic Spirit on his own, but he's really at his best by not being crazy and having a god damn powerful Noble Phantasm. To note, this is considered stronger than the phantasm that made him functionally invincible.

Caster: False Heroic Spirit Mickey Mouse.
Okay. Now I'm going to hell.
Noble Phantasm: Magical Castle: Disney.
Chances of Winning: Assured Victory. You do not mess with the mouse.

Rider: Heroic Spirit Genghis Khan
Probably too similar to F/Z Rider, but fits, I guess?
Skills: Riding and Leadership.
Noble Phantasm: Hmm. Maybe something like a vast stock of horses, so he always has a horse available?
Chances of Winning: Medium.

Beserker: Heroic Spirit Caligula.
In the same vein, probably a Beserker-like of the Fate/Extra Saber- Perhaps a bit too mild a choice for beserker, but I think it could work?
Skills: Not entirely sure what I'd put. Ahhh, this entry is becoming more useless each entry...
Noble Phantasm: Not sure what I'd put here either. I'm thinking either like, the knife that murdered him or a manifestation of something he did.
Chances of Winning: Lower than Washington's, if only due to the fact the beserker class is almost incapable of winning due to how uncontrollable they are.

Assassin: Unfortunately, due to how this slot works, it'd realistically have to be Hassan again. Because he's a douche, but assuming it wasn't-
Anti-Heroic Spirit Jack The Ripper.
The uncaught murderer who stalked the streets of London? Perfect Assassin material. Could've made his deal to never be caught or something.
Skills: Basic Stealth and the likes, focused on stabbing and fleeing.
Noble Phantasm: Unsolved Mystery- The manifestation of the fact Jack The Ripper was never unmasked. Makes it impossible to track him and allows him to blend into even the smallest of shadows, and always hides his face and body.
Chances of Winning: Decent. Probably wouldn't.


--- Quote from: Kerokero ~ tirade on July 30, 2011, 02:10:49 PM ---What is your opinion of Shikieki? (Depending on who reads this thread, your life may or may not be on the line.)
What are your music preferences?
What is your favorite season?
What, in your opinion, is your area of expertise?
On a scale of 1 to 10 (decimals allowed), rate yourself as a person.

--- End quote ---

I don't particularly like her. It's probably the reason Shikieiki's Day Off is a favorite of mine-  to make me enjoy reading about her so much is a feat. It mostly stems for her horrendous 'Ability to see Black and White', suggesting there is a definite wrong and right to everything, and that she has some god damn right to judge us all. It doesn't help she uses that ability to yell at everyone else, even if she does genuinely think she's helping them. Lady, stop telling people how to live their lives.

Maybe this stems from some hatred of the idea some jackass is going to be judging me and everything I did and saying 'how dare i not do x even if i thought x was the right thing to do'.

Musical Preferences are again probably rock leaning, anything with a good beat though.

My favorite season is probably fall, mild temperature and pretty leaves everywhere. And an excuse to wear sweatshirts!

My area of expertise is probably technological. I'm not really a programmer or anything, but it's probably what I'm best with.

4. If I'm generous.

Hello Purvis:

All excellent choices, Berserker Caligula made me jaw-drop with glee. But you missed a golden opportunity for Billy the Kid as Archer.

Also, I meant on the particular heroic spirits we know and love.

Tamer Anode/Cathode:

What is a "rabbit slam"? Can I get that at Denny's?

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