Author Topic: Touhou x Persona 3 fangame. (Read 11594 times)

shadowken9 · « **on:** July 13, 2011, 12:25:44 AM »

For a less than a couple of months or so I have been developing a Touhou x Persona fangame. Unlike some of you may be thinking this doesn't involve Touhou characters shooting themselves in the head and summoning personas. The touhou characters ARE the personas. The one that summon them will be a bunch of original characters that for now are merely at the concept stages.

While the plot is still in bit's and piece I do have a basic system which i can use for now (and all the graphics are just stand ins for now). Though I say that right now it's still missing the most crucial part (The battle system). The system itself will mostly be like Persona 3 Portable except for the dungeon. Since I can't handle 3D graphics the dungeon system is gonna be like Labyrinth of Touhou. The map for now is just a replic of the first floor of Labyrinth of Touhou (without stairs or items).

For those who want to see what i got so far, you can download it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?psdiipq0hpedbrb
You'll need to have XNA 4.0 installed to view it though (final product will have an installer that installs it too). To download it go here: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=20914

What I need help in for now are the graphics and the music since I have no skill in either. Another member here called asiathekitty has some concept art for the original characters.

Here are a few screenshots:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff96/kenftw/dp1.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff96/kenftw/dp2.jpg
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff96/kenftw/dp3.jpg

Edit: Wrong XNA link.

shadowken9 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2011, 11:03:26 PM »

This generated much less interest than I tought it would. Did I post too early in production maybe? :ohdear:

Well I guess I'll post a bit more just in case. Currently I'm working on the battle system which involves me creating a Character and Link(Persona) class. As Persona players may know, all the persona fit within an Arcana. This isn't exactly how i'm gonna make the game though.

Here's a summary of the plot I have so far:
A strange rift of distortion suddenly appears inbetween the Hakurei border. This rift completely seals Gensokyo of from the outside world and not even Yukari can get trough it. The reason Yukari can't get trough it is because if she tempers with the chaotic nature of this rift she might risk destroying the entire border or plunging Gensokyo into chaos.

Meanwhile on the other side of the border much more serious affairs are happening. Many people are being reported missing and there are sightings of strange monsters. The protagonist who moved to this place not so long ago and two of his classmates decide to investigate this matter. Their investigation takes them to a ruined shrine and everything changes from there.
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That's what I got planned for now. After the events at the shrine the main characters create a Link with the Touhou characters. This link allows the main characers to summon the Touhou characters for a short time using their spiritual power(SP). Since this is a spiritual link the more the main characters' personality matches the Touhou characters' the better they can summon them. Like P3P only the protagonist will have the wild card ability which lets him choose his Link. The other main characters are stuck with the first one they get.

So this is where I'm at right now. Since I need to make the Links and the power of the summoning is personality based I need to categorise the touhou characters that will be in the game based on their personality. Any help or criticism is appreciated.

warpshadow · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2011, 11:20:48 PM »

I would agree that the demo you released was way too early because it didn't really explain anything. So it's a game where your personality determines your power? So you do regular stuff most of the time like sleeping in to level grind your Komachi and Meiling powers? That sounds like an interesting idea, I would like to see more of your plot in the next demo.

shadowken9 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2011, 11:34:51 PM »

I guess I was a bit Impatient lol :V

I'm still too early in production to be able to implement any plot. Either way I don't even have any of the of the sprites for the original characters (or even names for them for that matter). For now I just wanted to do a system demo to get people interested with the possibilities.

As for the original characters I only have their stand in names and their Links for now:

"The girl"
Link: Sanae Kochiya.
Second year. One of the classmates that investigate with the protagonist.

"The guy"
Link: Sakuya Izayoi.
Second year. The other classmate that investigates with the protagonist.

"Beany guy"
Link: Satori Komeiji.
A third year with good computer hacking skills. Acts as mission control so he's never really in combat.

"The little girl"
Link: Syameimaru Aya.
A first year who is very curious and likes to take pictures.

Naturally the protagonist has no personality and will be named by the player however I have no idea who to put as his initial Link.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2011, 11:40:30 PM »

Huh, personality determines power...That can only lead to good things.
Crazy things, but good things. I'm pretty all over the place myself, So who knows what one I'd end up being best with.

As for everything else, especially the concept and plotline, it's all pretty nice.
The replica of the first floor of LoT was a nice little reference, did you do it from memory?

As for the MC's link, how about a set of Generic Enemies?
Like the Mr. Ghosty, Kedama, Fairies, etc. Until the personality is more fleshed out and such.

shadowken9 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2011, 11:49:29 PM »

Quote from: Hanzo K. on July 14, 2011, 11:40:30 PM

As for the MC's link, how about a set of Generic Enemies?
Like the Mr. Ghosty, Kedama, Fairies, etc. Until the personality is more fleshed out and such.

Not sure I'm even gonna include all of the Touhou character let alone the extra unnamed ones. Besides they would still have to fit somewhere on the personality chart (Which I should be making right now :V). A fairy might not be a bad idea though. Maybe he could start with Daiyousei...but that would bring up the question of what I'd call her since it's nor a real name.

Another problem is the spell cards. In persona games there are mostly only generic spells with only Endgame personas having unique spells. I could put this in the plot as the Touhou characters deciding to use generic spell cards in order to relieve the burden on the main characters' SP. Then only the popular ones would get their actual spell card included such as Marisa's Master Spark.

As for the LoT thing I did it with a map maker I made for the program. It's like that just for testing though. That's not actually gonna be floor 1.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #6 on:** July 14, 2011, 11:51:53 PM »

Well, you don't have to use all the generics, just pick one or two you feel like using.

warpshadow · « **Reply #7 on:** July 14, 2011, 11:56:12 PM »

The main character's link should either be Reimu or your favorite Touhou character.

As for names, names are easy. Here are my suggestions in either English or Japanese
The girl Heather Rice/ Hatsumi Katou
The guy Justin Wilkens / Takashi Saotome
The beany guy Elliot Green/ Satoru Sasahara
The little girl Alison Mcpherson/ Kazue Tenma

shadowken9 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:07:49 AM »

Quote from: warpshadow on July 14, 2011, 11:56:12 PM

The main character's link should either be Reimu or your favorite Touhou character.

Reimu is sort of an endgame Link so it wouldn't make sense being able to summon her right from the start. It's like saying you could summon Surt right at the start of Persona 3(not counting new game+). Besides there are a number of locks placed too.

First of all Level. The level affects the Spiritual Power of the character. Some Links will need a certain minimum level to be summoned due to the ammount of SP they use.

Second, if they're even fighting at all. Not all Touhou characters will be helping right from the start. Of course if you handle a few requests by Marisa(Elizabeth :V) she might convince a few people.

Last there is the level of understanding. This is eqiuvalent to maxing out social links in Persona. You won't be able to summon certain characters unless you completely understand their personality. Only when you truly understand them will you be able to forge a Link.

warpshadow · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:13:08 AM »

Okay so the main character can get more than one link? I would say either your favorite character or low level character like Rumia or Wriggle. Maybe one of the Aki sisters. Also if Reimu is too powerful then why do the other characters get Sakuya and Sanae, aren't they about as powerful as Reimu?

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:14:35 AM »

Simple, its because unlike the MC, who can shift links around as needed, they're locked into one single link.

shadowken9 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:26:29 AM »

Quote from: warpshadow on July 15, 2011, 12:13:08 AM

Okay so the main character can get more than one link? I would say either your favorite character or low level character like Rumia or Wriggle. Maybe one of the Aki sisters. Also if Reimu is too powerful then why do the other characters get Sakuya and Sanae, aren't they about as powerful as Reimu?

Unlike the wildcard protagonist the other characters have pretty distinct personalities (which hopefully will get trough when I write the script). So when they forge a link they make a permanent one with the best person that corresponds to them. All Touhou characters including the ones the protagonists summons lower their power in order to easily be summoned. Only after certain points (For the protagonist it's learning all the touhou character's spells) will they truly be fighting at full power.

~~Right now I'm having problems making a personality chart though. I can't find certain word to describe people like Yukari, Kanako and Remilia the have that sort of Final boss mastermind thing going.~~

Edit: Oh look. Pokemon natures!

shadowken9 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 15, 2011, 06:21:52 AM »

I made a rough Personality list for now. Tried to make the numbers as even as possible. Any verifications would be helpful.

Edit: Somehow forgot to add Reimu and Marisa. For now i put Reimu under "Adamant" and Marisa under "Bold".

warpshadow · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:32:57 PM »

For the main character's first link how about you give them a few story options and then have them paired with the link which fits what they game decisions they chose.

Hanzo K. · « **Reply #14 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:38:44 PM »

That seems like a good idea too. Kinda like how in PMD, you were given the pokemon to play as based on how you scored in the quiz at the start.

shadowken9 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:41:15 PM »

Quote from: warpshadow on July 15, 2011, 08:32:57 PM

For the main character's first link how about you give them a few story options and then have them paired with the link which fits what they game decisions they chose.

Interesting, haven't tought about that. Would probably be something like the choices he makes during the investigation part. Currently stuck trying to make the battle system though. It's much more complicated than I expected.

shadowken9 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 20, 2011, 08:27:51 PM »

Guess i should update this thread once in a while. :V

So right now the battle system is on-hold and I'm working on the game plot-wise. For now a storyboard was made for the first 4 days and a script was done for the first day. As far as the script goes, I'm not really good at writing them for now xD. Either way, the first day is practically coded save for some details and the last part. Problem is, not much progress is getting done on the graphics side. For now only 2 line-art sprites are done and for the rest i'm just using stickmen and st0ff. If any artist is interested in this project please post here or send me a message.

Kuro · « **Reply #17 on:** July 24, 2011, 07:53:49 PM »

This seems very relevant to my interests. : 3

So, for how much playtime are you aiming? If I were you I wouldn't go over five hours, if even that much.

BTW: Hello Shrinemaiden, and please excuse my bad English :ohdear:

shadowken9 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 24, 2011, 08:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Kuro on July 24, 2011, 07:53:49 PM

This seems very relevant to my interests. : 3

So, for how much playtime are you aiming? If I were you I wouldn't go over five hours, if even that much.

BTW: Hello Shrinemaiden, and please excuse my bad English :ohdear:

No clue whatsoever. The game is still in it's ealry stages so for now I only planned the start, the end and some bits and pieces in between. With just that I have no idea how this might end up.

shadowken9 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 26, 2011, 07:44:40 PM »

Unfortunately this project is gonna be put on hold for now. There was only one person working on the graphics side of this project so the progress on the graphics was going very slowly to the point where the person is thinking of giving up. I guess it was a bad idea on my part to start a game project that has a lot of focus on graphics when I don't have any skill in graphics myself. As far as the system goes I don't have much problems making it. But with the slow progress of graphics I'm losing motivation.

Sorry if I got anybody's hopes up. :ohdear: