Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 262997 times)

Helepolis · « **Reply #840 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:30:55 AM »

No not quite =( , I died at Utsuho. She melted me so used a continue thus stands for no CC right?

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #841 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:39:23 AM »

If you continued once then that would be a 2cc. The way it works is that a 1cc would be if this were in an arcade you would only use one credit, i.e only pay to play once. Since you have to pay to continue playing after running out of lives in an arcade, continuing once would be a two credit clear.

Helepolis · « **Reply #842 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:54:21 AM »

Oh . . . *smash head*

I keep messing up this cc thing. I never even quite understood it anyway. Is it because I am a (9)? Must be no? Yea, must be.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #843 on:** June 19, 2009, 07:15:37 AM »

Well, this came completely out of the blue. I was all raging over how cheap Marisa's suns toss attack was, and suddenly I pull off a SG extra clear. This was my second time reaching Reimu's fourth phase, and my first ever going beyond it. I have to say...Reimu takes a huge nosedive in difficulty from her survival attack on. I mean, what the hell is with her final attack? It's a simple aimed attack.

So I hear it's possible to share replays or something. I don't even know where replays are stored though. Help?

Azinth · « **Reply #844 on:** June 19, 2009, 02:33:32 PM »

The sun-merang isn't so bad once you get a feel for how the suns rotate. The only really bullshitty thing that could happen is if you destroy one of them in mid-swing, in which their speed fluctuates wildly as they reposition themselves. Just stop shooting when she throws them out. To be honest, the only true BS attacks in the stage are Marisa's yellow bullet/laser horror, her clone attack (50% chance of cheapshotting/wasting a bomb from you) and the first half of Reimu's survival phase where she throws a fucking WALL at you. The rest are... theoretically possible at least.

But hey, great job! See, this stage isn't so bad once you get used to it (and know when to bomb). Now that you've gotten that out of the way you can start practicing for lunati*shot*

Replay files can be found here: http://img3.imageshack.us/i/ssgreplay.jpg/ Just look for the stage in question (in this case the EX one) and save it to another location.

Edit: Whoops. Does the link work now...?

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #845 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:30:00 PM »

Image not found. >.>

And Reimu's first stage of her survival attack was BS? It seemed very straightforward to me; it was simple lanes with a moderate amount of random bullets thrown in. I only bombed because I was against a wall and was on my last life.

Azinth · « **Reply #846 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:56:16 PM »

...Really? It might be a rank thing, because I always find that attack almost impossibly dense, and the fact that she fires them at you almost point-blank doesn't help things much. Though it should also be noted that I have a fair bit of input lag for SG (not as bad as patchless PCB, but it's noticeable), which can sometimes screw with my micrododging. I think I fixed the link btw.

Edit: FFFFFFFFFF I got to stage 6 in PCB. Then I promptly game-over'd to the Fuck You fairy wall. I swear, one of these days I will get through all of stages 2, 3, and 4 without horrendously chain-dying and losing three lives at once, and then I'll show Yuyuko what for.

Slaves · « **Reply #847 on:** June 19, 2009, 09:38:56 PM »

I just did my first capture of Ichirin's 2nd card. It's usually an auto-bomb for me.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #848 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:12:10 AM »

I just spellcapped scarlet meister 3 times in a row on hard now (practice mode of course..after a full run). It's amazing how easy hard is after doing lunatic for a bit lol...But yeah you can really notice the diff between hard and lunatic meister, didn't notice it before.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #849 on:** June 20, 2009, 05:43:22 AM »

MS normal no bombs. In retrospect, not that big a deal, but I didn't think I could do it.

Garlyle · « **Reply #850 on:** June 20, 2009, 11:02:17 AM »

1cc MoF Normal, ReimuB

Okay, it's not much (I now realise how damn easy MoF is!) but it's my first 1cc at a highly acceptable slowdown rate since my laptop first contracted Terminal Slowdown. For some reason, MoF and StB runs with a minimum of slowdown, and SA and SWR, basically none, but anything earlier? Don't go there.

*Credits finish* Wait, it was 7.5% Slowdown?

... ;-;

God damnit. I even ruined a 100% Record of Mountain of Faith! T.T [It was 2/2, now it's 2/3, but seriously, it's So Damn Easy! @_@]. But I did figure out Miracle of Otensui... And HOW do you do Misayama Hunting Shrine? I've at least got a grip on Expanding Onbashira...

Vile Lasagna · « **Reply #851 on:** June 20, 2009, 05:28:50 PM »

So I've been away from Touhou for about a month, ever since my gamepad broke and I sent it back since it was still in warranty. But I got tired of waiting and decided to give it a go today. It's not like I DIDN'T play with the keyboard anyway. And I lose my first continue on DAYOUSEI. But I keep playing and SOMEWHERE I must have gotten half decent that because I managed to go all the way up to Scarlet Shoot (Remilia's penultimate spell). Yay for me!

Drake · « **Reply #852 on:** June 20, 2009, 05:43:53 PM »

I remember that challenge about no moving to the right for SA, and I tried again. I got all the way to Utsuho's 2nd card.

EDIT: I should be able to 1cc. She only takes about two lives.

LHCling · « **Reply #853 on:** June 21, 2009, 12:10:06 AM »

Huzzah!

Out of the blue random LLS 1cc Lunatic. I was dying everywhere. With Cheeto Laser MarisaA, but still.

Having 3 lives for Stage 5+.

-Preboss waves done without bombing (or pre-bombing)
-Reimu expended only 1 life
-other things which I forgot.

@'nut: MarisaA is broken. MarisaB takes longer.

EDIT: Goddamit. I could've captured Yuka's Final Phase. Cheeto Lasers or not, that would've been it.

Schpwuette · « **Reply #854 on:** June 21, 2009, 12:23:01 AM »

Broke 200m in EoSD Lunatic o/
Replay

So many deathbombs

Drake · « **Reply #855 on:** June 21, 2009, 03:29:52 AM »

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Well, I did it. 1cc'd SA Easy without moving to the right. I was seriously scared for a bit, as I had one extra life going into Tokamak because her last noncard walled me twice. I had just ran out of power, died, and then nearly died again, but beat it just before the bullet got me. And so, I ended up on SubSun with no cushion. Just a note, this is extremely fucking difficult. You can't go anywhere from 10 pixels off the center because you'll either die from the suction, or be forced to gap, where you'll either die by the suction or gap into a bullet. You have to let the quasi-gravity to pull you towards the center. I ended up bombing only twice, and I won. That was really stressful, but oh so fun.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the point. The replay desynced.

Azinth · « **Reply #856 on:** June 21, 2009, 03:41:38 AM »

An MoF lunatic 1cc.

...Meh. Playing this game for survival is way too easy, even on lunatic. I think I captured like 6 cards in the entire run, and everything else was just 'oh bullets coming my way lol bomb.' I hardly had to practice the stages at all compared to the other lunatics. And since I'm not a huge fan of MoF, I'm probably not gonna shoot for a better run than this any time soon. =/

stargroup · « **Reply #857 on:** June 21, 2009, 04:27:23 AM »

Quote from: Drake on June 21, 2009, 03:29:52 AM

EDIT: Oh yeah, the point. The replay desynced.

goddamnit I wanted to see this so badly

Drake · « **Reply #858 on:** June 21, 2009, 06:25:18 AM »

I'll do it again tomorrow. I was going to upload it anyways, but then decided against; as it would keep people from watching the entire thing.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #859 on:** June 21, 2009, 07:48:22 AM »

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3666

I captured the ultimate fairy BS wall in PCB stage 6 lunatic. I discovered that there's a relatively quiet spot in the corner. I hate using Suckuya A, but her homing ability makes this MUCH easier. Like the comments say, ignore everything afterwards because I was just draining my lives and screwing around with Youmu/Yuyuko.

Krimmydoodle · « **Reply #860 on:** June 21, 2009, 09:03:55 AM »

Quote from: Azinth on June 21, 2009, 03:41:38 AM

An MoF lunatic 1cc.

...Meh. Playing this game for survival is way too easy, even on lunatic. I think I captured like 6 cards in the entire run, and everything else was just 'oh bullets coming my way lol bomb.'

I can beat that. My MoF 1cc had 7 deaths, 48 bombs, and a whopping 5 captured spell cards: the three Aki cards, Hina's midboss card, and Hina's last card.

I need to go back and do a more impressive full game run, since in more recent times I've gotten no-miss runs of every stage except Stage 4 (fuck Momizi, fuck the waterfall fairies, and fuck Aya).

LHCling · « **Reply #861 on:** June 21, 2009, 10:51:20 AM »

...

1LC MS Extra.

*goes into corner*

Bombs used:
-pre-boss waves...
-2nd last phase (x2)

If I played right, it would be a 1-Bomb-Clear... I would still bomb the pre-boss waves.

I did record, but it's nothing special. Plus, flickering! Oh god my eyes hurt. But the flickering didn't slow the game down, so... yeah.

DgBarca · « **Reply #862 on:** June 21, 2009, 01:31:00 PM »

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3667 50% Through the phantasm
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3656 I cleared an extra stage....NYYYYAAAAAAAAAA

Generalguy · « **Reply #863 on:** June 21, 2009, 03:28:55 PM »

PCB Extra Clear with ReimuA.

Pretty crappy run for spellcards (I think I only captured Red Oni Blue Oni and Shikigami Chen. Failed Wizard Fox Thoughts because I wanted to try shotgunning Ran and her first bullet broke my border), but it went very well for non-spells, so I reached "Descent of Izuna Gongen" with 3/2. Then I died twice with bombs in stock, and finished with 0/1 by timing out the spellcard.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #864 on:** June 22, 2009, 05:15:54 AM »

Tonight I:

Beat EoSD stage 4 one death (on Forest Blaze of all things. D:)

Beat EoSD stage 5 one death (on Killing Doll). I also captured Sakuya's second non-spell on max rank, and it didn't go easy on me either. Those walls are very scary, but very fun when you dodge them. Sadly Killing Doll on max rank was not so kind.

EoSD stage 6...nothing really. I can say that once you figure out the "trick" to Eternal Meek, it's very fun.

Thousand Needle Mountain killed me when it you couldn't even see its health bar anymore though, dashing my hopes of making this a no deaths stage 6 run.

LHCling · « **Reply #865 on:** June 22, 2009, 07:08:47 AM »

Ooh tense.

Credits to 'nut (earlier, much earlier) for suggesting me to use unfocus dashing through the collapsing white waves. It clicked in my head that the attack is aimed, so it made sense. Else, this would not have been possible.

In short: Perfect Elly Battle at Max Rank with ReimuB

_{(yes, I restarted; there was no way I was going to 3-bomb clear Stage 5, and even after that, there was still Stage 6)}

EDIT: Holy crap that was dangerous.

Note to self: Do NOT stop shooting for Stage 6, even if to prolong the [F]; the attack power is too low.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #866 on:** June 22, 2009, 07:16:39 AM »

Nice. I managed the same with Reimu A. :O This was also the run I captured Kurumi's second phase at max rank though, so I was obviously hax in that run (somehow finished only 0/0 though...).

LHCling · « **Reply #867 on:** June 22, 2009, 07:28:23 AM »

Quote from: BaitySM on June 22, 2009, 07:08:47 AM

Note to self: Do NOT stop shooting for Stage 6, even if to prolong the [F]; the attack power is too low.

And that's 1cc with ReimuB; 10 misses, 23 bombs. Now it's all shot types completed.

I love the ending(s) by the way.

The run itself was somewhat horrible. I would've been left with 3 lives, but decided to stall Yuka's Final Phase for theorizing (recorded). As a result, I died with numerous bombs in stock.

...and how does one go about doing Yuka's Final Phase for Stage 5? I seriously, cannot see an opening I can use. I'm guessing I need to be more than halfway up the screen or something? Or do I just bomb it down...

EDIT: I just noticed. When you use Reimu for either LLS and MS, the "Player" and "Bomb" strings are untranslated. They are for every other character (Marisa(+A/B), Mima, Yuka).

Spell Card Theory - Yuka's Final Phase (LLS; Lunatic Edition)

First things first; Rank.

Rank does not affect this phase. At all. Not in speed, not in density. Nothing.

With that out of the way...

Quote from: LLSL6FP Video Data

2:38:067
2:39:767
2:40:467
2:40:867
2:41:267
- *bomb*
2:49:867
2:50:467
2:51:667
- *bomb*
2:56:667
- *end*

Note: Some times are larger in difference due to the type of pattern spawned. Same thing applies for smaller quantities of difference

Bullet spawn is fair simple, (somewhat) symmetric and randomized (in pattern generation), much like some other notable Spell Card I analyzed.

Bullet density varies greatly. Sometimes, they'll give you large holes, other times, impossible walls, or very unnoticeable gaps.

Now the question imposed is, "What should I do?" The answer is simple in theory, but complex in practice. You need to:

-read each wave
-predict where the holes will appear
-position / plan your movement
-read next wave ASAP
-predict ASAP
-etc.

With ~0.7 seconds between each wave (and some of these waves are ridiculous), you better hope that you can see your way through pretty quickly. Not to mention controlling your character properly. Clipdeath can be very common. Or just bomb it. 3 should be plenty. 1 is probably the bare ~~mini~~ maximum with cheap MarisaA though.

However, sometimes Yuka will just throw one of these:

Conclusion:
Difficult? Yes, very.
BS Factor? Pretty high, but depends on your shot type.

1 miss, 2 bomb (1 for scoring...) clear of LLS Extra.

The death had a bomb in stock. Last phase is FFFFFF- on Max Rank, where I used the second bomb.

And note that this run did not beat my current HiScore, which is pretty unnerving. Maybe my scoring is much better with ReimuB?

I'm now a bit curious.

Going for SoEW Hard 1cc(s?), then going for Extra. No idea why I feel like doing this though. Note that I have never 1cc'd SoEW Normal. Ever.

However, sleep comes first.

Garlyle · « **Reply #868 on:** June 22, 2009, 05:48:35 PM »

MoF Extra Clear.

I see what people mean about Suwako being easy, 'cause daaaaamn that was easy. My successful attempt was a 1st attempt from Seven Trees onward [although I had seen a run of the stage before once or twice, never memorized anything though]

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #869 on:** June 22, 2009, 06:01:07 PM »

Go for it. 1cc SoEW lunatic so I can have nothing left to live for.

And interesting analysis on Yuka's final phase. I thought it was static...you know, if it weren't for the fact that you have to go through a 30 minute game just to fight it, it may actually be fun to read those walls.