Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 262997 times)

Azinth · « **Reply #810 on:** June 15, 2009, 10:03:55 PM »

Aw c'mon, you can't just stop there! Seeing Reimu blow up is just oh so satisfying.

btw, I raped SG normal with the lasers just to see how it fared with extra. I still didn't have any trouble with the ships... >_> Though I can say that laser is complete and utter garbage for story mode, and not as good as homing for the extra. It might be better if you have scoring in mind though (lol playing SG for score).

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #811 on:** June 15, 2009, 10:07:01 PM »

Not. Until. I. Beat. Normal. With. Homing. VIVIT.

Which considering things will probably be later tonight oh god what has Summer done to me? TT_TT

EDIT TO AVOID ANOTHER DOUBLE POST: Just perfected LLS extra's stage portion, cleared 6/1. 4 bombs used. Turns out the right way to go is to NOT grazewhore the beginning and instead collect their power. This keeps the upcoming wall spammers from overwhelming you. Besides, you can still gain 10 million+ points from Gengetu's grazewhore phase anyway.

EDIT for theshim below: You shut up, Astronomical Entombing is a random sonuvabitch. The border team can't destroy familiars fast enough for it to be worth it.

theshirn · « **Reply #812 on:** June 16, 2009, 01:46:23 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 15, 2009, 07:42:54 PM

one death, on Astronomical Entombing

LOLWUT

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #813 on:** June 16, 2009, 03:15:53 AM »

There, finally gave in to my inner demons and 1cc'd SG normal with homing VIVIT. As I suspected, once the game stopped shitting me out with cheap attacks (or at least cheap ones I couldn't see coming in time), it was really easy.

So then I enter extra with my newfound homing VIVIT, and do amazingly well on Marisa, entering Reimu with 2 spare lives. I lose them all immediately on her cheap as hell second phase.

...-_-

EDIT: Kanako, that's when I'm inspired. As long as Reimu's second phase exists, I'm not inspired.

Kanako Yasaka · « **Reply #814 on:** June 16, 2009, 03:18:14 AM »

Knowing you, you're probably going to clear it in about a day.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #815 on:** June 16, 2009, 06:45:34 AM »

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3624

This run makes me feel both happy and sad. I'm happy because I finally beat the post-Momizi BS without dying or bombing. I'm sad because since I wasn't really trying to do it I was still fighting Momizi 4 seconds after is started, and I have no idea if it made a difference or not. I just want to count it oh so badly, but I'm not sure if I can in good conscience. ;_; You guys be the judge.

LHCling · « **Reply #816 on:** June 16, 2009, 09:48:36 AM »

I've been putting it off for a while, because it's so difficult (comparatively) , but...

4 deaths + 9 bombs.

Yuka is horrible for scoring, and moves too slow unfocused. I have no quarrels regarding focused movement speed. Her shot type is great, but isn't really suited for the stage part of MS Extra. Enemies were too far apart to make use of spread most of the time. Further, the spread meant lower power, which consequently led to the entire screen being filled with bullets. Wasted 1 bomb + 1 life on it.

However, I did "capture" Alice's "100% purple phase" (not to be confused with the simple streaming phase), and the final phase (probably because I was shotgunning for the first half).

And to top it off, I did ~~the pre-boss waves perfectly~~ a perfect mid-boss run.

I wonder, could using Yuka cause me to crash and burn against Yumeko? ~~Well, going to find out... after the next two exams.~~
Done. No problems whatsoever. Yeah, you heard me. Barring that I ~~mistimed some of my dodging~~ ran straight into knives, I would say that it's possible. I even almost got a "capture" on Yumeko's most difficult phase... And no, this isn't just some claim.

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 16, 2009, 06:45:34 AM

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3624

This run makes me feel both happy and sad. I'm happy because I finally beat the post-Momizi BS without dying or bombing. I'm sad because since I wasn't really trying to do it I was still fighting Momizi 4 seconds after is started, and I have no idea if it made a difference or not. I just want to count it oh so badly, but I'm not sure if I can in good conscience. ;_; You guys be the judge.

The post-BS waves start earlier, true. But the only way you're going to get it from the start is if you bomb through. I'd count it.

I should probably also add a note that my internet went into debt (because they're stingy bastards don't update certain days until months later, so all this money is being piled up), and that there's a chance that I won't be able to jump on.

Moving right along, I also now performed some more freak dodging. Unfocus dashing through "VoWG" waves, Lunatic streaming patterns, etc. Not sure if that counts as an accomplishment though.

Zengeku · « **Reply #817 on:** June 16, 2009, 09:42:21 PM »

Just some things i did today:

- Timed out Spell 21 in Imperishable Night. That was fun.
- Captured Imperishable Shooting. That was surprisingly easy. Only two difficult waves. Requires a lot of precision.
- Timed out Hourai Doll down to 6 seconds. Died there. Didn't feel like going on.
- Perfect Prismriver battle on Hard difficulty.
- Captured Kogasa's blue bullet spamcard and mid-boss spell on Lunatic.
- Captured Ichirin's midboss spellcard on Lunatic.

LHCling · « **Reply #818 on:** June 16, 2009, 10:19:17 PM »

-Perfect Yumeko battle (Hard)
-Perfect Reimu (LLS) battle (Hard)

...that's it for now. I'm getting close to doing the Lunatic ones.

EDIT: MarisaA is overpowered for LLS.

fallensoul · « **Reply #819 on:** June 17, 2009, 03:24:22 AM »

I cleared every level with every char of PoFV...
I guess it's a great accomplishment...

Azinth · « **Reply #820 on:** June 17, 2009, 05:27:27 AM »

Holy crap I think I've done it. I just found a pattern to Reimu's second phase that might be exploitable. There's still some kinks to work out, but at least this will make it lose a ton of it's sting. I've also found a pattern in her fourth phase; that one always seemed like luck-garbage to me, but now it's perfectly doable. Thanks to these discoveries I managed an extra run with three lives remaining (that is two extra lives), which is by far the best I've ever done.

...Blegh i was only partly right. Oh well, it still makes it a bit easier...

...nvm it actually does work. Fuck yeah!

Nuclear Fusion · « **Reply #821 on:** June 17, 2009, 06:12:47 AM »

That was a terrible run, up until the very end.

To recap:

Stage 3 - Three deaths. One on the stage cause I'm a doofus. I was saying to myself "okay, I won't die stupidly on this stage this time." BAM! I run into a bullet on the other side of the screen because I wasn't paying attention.

Nitori then kills me twice. On her first card. Ya. I don't even know how I died the first time, and the second death was me being stupid and mad. Cue the "Well this run is going to hell".

Stage 4 - I think there was a death on the stage. I got through Aya though with no deaths, that was nice.

Stage 5 killed me once, I think, and then again at mid boss Sanae, on a really cheap death. The card was done, she was clearing... oh wait, I can't dodge those last tiny dots coming at me, can I? Well crap.

Sanae boss kills me on Moses. I hate that card.

Stage 6 didn't kill me, which it never should. But I only got to Kanako with two lives.

One death on the rice card. That thing is ridiculous on hard.
And then one death on her streaming non-spell. The three phase one. I also hate that thing.

So I got to VoWG with only 4.3 power, since I bombed Heaven's Dragon. Didn't feel like doing it.

Captured VoWG hard ^^ So a great end to a really crappy run.

LHCling · « **Reply #822 on:** June 17, 2009, 07:48:48 AM »

...I just bugged Suwako's first Spell Card.

Not good for scoring though, because I wasted a bomb.

Replay to come (unless the replay magically debugs itself...)

EDIT: Nope, can't reproduce it ;_;
What the "bug" did was make Suwako fire her lasers (constantly, regardless of my position) upwards, which mean that the only bullets that were coming down the screen were the aimed ones.

And I game over'd on Native Sign "Froggy Braves the Elements", with 1 bomb and 1 death, in an attempt to time it out (and all the other Spell Cards). It is not 100% vertical danmaku dodging. The further away from where the bullets fall, the more slanted the bullets are. So naturally, I got clipped before I found this out. 45 seconds left on the timer.

Oh well, a 630k Faith stage run isn't too bad~

?lice Bl?ckb?rn · « **Reply #823 on:** June 17, 2009, 08:58:21 AM »

Quote from: BaitySM on June 17, 2009, 07:48:48 AM

EDIT: Nope, can't reproduce it ;_;

Just make sure you're above Suwako *before* she starts her opener, as the lasers seem to be aimed w.r.t what position you are at the start of her opener for some reason. Or something. I haven't actually investigated what causes this bug in detail, but the method I described above will reproduce it with perfect consistency.

LHCling · « **Reply #824 on:** June 17, 2009, 09:30:38 AM »

Quote from: Alice Margatroid on June 17, 2009, 08:58:21 AM

Quote from: BaitySM on June 17, 2009, 07:48:48 AM
EDIT: Nope, can't reproduce it ;_;
Just make sure you're above Suwako *before* she starts her opener, as the lasers seem to be aimed w.r.t what position you are at the start of her opener for some reason. Or something. I haven't actually investigated what causes this bug in detail, but the method I described above will reproduce it with perfect consistency.

Just got it. Very... interesting. Though, I probably won't ever do that again. It made the Spell Card ridiculously easy.

Also, stupid clipdeaths. And mistiming movements, forgetting to do *action* here, etc. . There might be a few other areas that I'm doing wrong though. Oh, and I missed the free bomb before Suwako. That sucks.

PoFV Extra Clear. That was easier than I thought. PoDD is much more simplistic, yet more difficult.
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3637

And I might as well post this: I died to Cirno about in about half the runs, because I was trying to scorewhore for getting the first life quickly. It didn't go so well in this run. I believe one of my failed runs had the Spell Counter go to about 700k or something before Cirno decided to run into a bullet.

Zengeku · « **Reply #825 on:** June 17, 2009, 03:59:03 PM »

Suwako's first spellcard is one of the easiest extra spells ever. It would serve no point to bug it. It actually can't get easier than it already is unless you consider moving from left to right and vice versa a problem.

- Captured Suwa War.
- Captured Imperishable Shooting again. Figured out that there is only three waves that potentially pose a threat while only two of them are actually dangerous.

Nuclear Fusion · « **Reply #826 on:** June 17, 2009, 07:28:48 PM »

Speaking of Suwako...

Just finished a no bomb run of that Extra Stage.

So that means I've no bombed all the extra stages, and completed Hard of all the games.

That just leaves Lunatic...

Hold me ;_;

Schpwuette · « **Reply #827 on:** June 17, 2009, 10:44:38 PM »

Yes.

YES.

YEEEEEEAAAH!

Edit: this is actually a little annoying though, I was gearing up for a marathon of Touhou, but a mere 2 stage practices in I find myself shaking like a leaf and unable to dodge even the simplest danmaku. Oh well. Everything has a price, I guess.

LHCling · « **Reply #828 on:** June 18, 2009, 04:06:58 AM »

...I found another way to deal with Yumeko's knife spam phases.

The best part? It works consistently, and even applies for Lunatic Yuka. And it even ends the phases rather quickly.

The bad news is that it still doesn't work for that last one... ...which I would rather just shotgun bomb by the way.

The method is a whole series of "switch streams", where you misdirect the "lines" from the center, and dodge the incoming aimed knives.

I didn't dare test this out on the 2nd phase of this type, due to the ridiculous density of the knives. It did work on the 3rd one though (with the lasers).

So that gives me 2 methods of dodging Yumeko's 1st and 3rd knive spam, 1 method of doing the 2nd, and nothing on the 4th.

I can see a 1LC of Yumeko already. With full bombs in stock.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #829 on:** June 18, 2009, 07:22:06 AM »

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3647

There, now I can never go the final A route again. :V IN lunatic 1cc going to Final A. I entered Eirin 5/1 and left 2/1. :( However, I blame one of those deaths entirely on the cardinal sin of shmups called "spawning a bullet on you" that you only ever see in Eirin's fight...because her fight sucks balls. Still, I've finally done it, so now I can never do it again.

LHCling · « **Reply #830 on:** June 18, 2009, 07:33:52 AM »

I just timed out "DBDB" on Hard... Satori was on minimal HP as well, so it counts as an effective capture (and not just some pansy dodging in a corner or something).

Looks like I'll have to do further testing, in spite of the fact that I wrote a huge analysis on it. In other words, how to deal with it consistently.

EDIT: lol, shotgun-distance dodging of "DBDB" is fun.

stargroup · « **Reply #831 on:** June 18, 2009, 07:15:07 PM »

I don't understand why people find Moses so hard. All you have to do is keep moving and redirecting the knives. I capture it consistently. :/

LHCling · « **Reply #832 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:33:39 AM »

MS Extra Clear all characters.

~~Screenshot of the scores to come soon.~~

Marisa is <3 for MS. Scores aren't that bad at the moment. Though, I'll be improving them.

Kanako Yasaka · « **Reply #833 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:37:45 AM »

Quote from: baity

Marisa is <3 for MS.

Seriously? I thought she was bad in comparison to ~~MEEEEMMMMAAAA~~ Mima and Yuka.

LHCling · « **Reply #834 on:** June 19, 2009, 01:43:40 AM »

Quote from: Kanako Yasaka on June 19, 2009, 01:37:45 AM

Seriously? I thought she was bad in comparison to ~~MEEEEMMMMAAAA~~ Mima and Yuka.

When not at full power, Marisa is sub-par.

When she gets full power, she has arguably the strongest shot type (in terms of range:damage ratio). The problem most people face lie in the delay of the missiles. So if the boss moves around a lot (e.g. Alice), you can expect to be taking your sweet time, or trying to flail around in hopes of maximizing damage.

I rank the characters like this in terms of playability (according to my style):

Mima > Marisa > Yuka > Reimu

Isn't it sad? ;_;

Oh hey, a "perfect" stage run. With the same 1 bomb for scoring that I love to use. Which is in a very easy-to-dodge area by the way.

Finishing nicely. 2 deaths, 3 bombs.

Died on the last phase because it was at max rank.

theshirn · « **Reply #835 on:** June 19, 2009, 03:49:50 AM »

Ungh. Help with the stage would be appreciated. See RAGE post.

Drake · « **Reply #836 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:05:52 AM »

Ah, there we go. Got to Puking Swords. Only a matter of time and luck, now.

Darkblizer · « **Reply #837 on:** June 19, 2009, 05:06:05 AM »

Yayyyy I 1cc'd SA.

By the way, it didn't actually take very long, I just haven't played touhou in a while.

Soo, I guess I'll just go and do the extra stages, yay.

..starting with SA extra and going backwards _{because I don't particularly like EoSD that much. D:}

oh yeah, here's the replay: http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3650

Helepolis · « **Reply #838 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:15:51 AM »

Finally, after two months of almost playing IN: I have beaten SA on EASY MODE NO CC

YES!

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #839 on:** June 19, 2009, 06:20:31 AM »

You mean 1cc...right? Because I don't even know how a 0cc would work.

In other news...I've got nothing. But hey, great new name, huh? >_> I wonder how long it'll be before I actually change this back...