Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 263018 times)

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #690 on:** June 07, 2009, 05:33:07 PM »

Wow...I'm speechless. I've NEVER handled all 4 of Yumeko's macro-dodging streaming phases with only one bomb. Good job. You make it look too easy because you only showcase once how if your timing is even the slightest bit off you get walled in. ;_;

Also I've never seriously used Reimu in this game before. Mima and Yuka are the only two I use, and sadly Yuka's too slow to be of use above normal (she's <3 for extra though).

Schpwuette · « **Reply #691 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:00:18 AM »

Replay

HA HA HAAAA. TAKE THAT YUYUKO. (a no deaths/bombs - borders broken though - Yuyuko fight until Sumizome)

And... TAKE THAT PCB LUNATIC! WOOOOOO!

Despite a frightening and composure crushing series of failures on the Prismrivers - almost making me revert to the same state of mind I was in earlier today (abject despair) - I still manage to finish with plenty of lives to spare: enough that I didn't mind giving Ressurection Butterfly a chance - I did very well at it actually, died once and I think I bombed a border or something... well whatever, I dodged far more red waves than I usually do.

It really shows how shitty the runs of the past few days have been, that the first run I 1cc ends with 4 lives (would have been 6 if I had still been trying to survive rather than capture/semi capture).

edit: also Phar has a no-bombs 1cc of SA lunatic up, that's probably a must watch (I don't think Kefit has managed that yet?)

Yukkuri · « **Reply #692 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:05:55 AM »

Quote from: Schpwuette on June 08, 2009, 12:00:18 AM

Replay

edit: also Phar has a no-bombs 1cc of SA lunatic up, that's probably a must watch (I don't think Kefit has managed that yet?)

I'm sure he could do it.

He did a perfect Stage 5 SA lunatic.

LHCling · « **Reply #693 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:11:00 AM »

Quote from: Schpwuette on June 08, 2009, 12:00:18 AM

edit: also Phar has a no-bombs 1cc of SA lunatic up, that's probably a must watch (I don't think Kefit has managed that yet?)

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6. Kefit - 706,150,590 - C - 0.0% - Replay (No Bomb)

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nintendonut888 · « **Reply #694 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:22:11 AM »

Kefit did that a few weeks after SA came out, lol.

Phar · « **Reply #695 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:36:31 AM »

Yeah, Kefit did that long before me.

It was my second one, even. It's actually not that difficult, because SA is all about learning patterns, doesn't have any real bullshit, and gives you a ton of lives to work with. I was actually trying for a no-death clear (I've been for a few weeks now), which is theoretically even easier, but I keep forgetting to bomb when I have to.

Schpwuette · « **Reply #696 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:38:49 AM »

Quote from: BaitySM on June 08, 2009, 12:11:00 AM

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I stand corrected. Please excuse my ignorance~
(what was it that he gave up on because of stage 5 SA? a capturing run or something)

Ghaleon · « **Reply #697 on:** June 08, 2009, 06:38:53 AM »

I just 1 cc'd normal phantasmogria of flower view or whatever it's called with the night sparrow character (who isn't considered overpowered I hope?). Then when I went to save my reply, the game crashed..and the replay didn't save.. Anybody else experience this? is it possibly a translation patch glitch? *cries*.. I feel pretty proud, it's not easy!

Krimmydoodle · « **Reply #698 on:** June 08, 2009, 07:50:24 AM »

In a bombless SA 1cc attempt, captured all of Orin's attacks (across all three stages) except Ghost Wheels. Stupid miss on that card aside (I basically sat and let the bullet hit me, because I thought it was going to graze me), it's definitely an improvement over instafailing Catwalk, Possessed Fairy, and Small Demon's Revival.

Run went to shit after Stage 6 Orin though. Died twice between her and Utsuho somehow, and lost my final life to Nuclear Reaction. I think pulling this off is looking promising though, considering the two fail deaths in Stage 6 and a death against Yamame's opener that I shrugged off. I've been trying for bombless MoF 1ccs in the past, but I think I'm going to shift my focus toward doing it in SA.

LHCling · « **Reply #699 on:** June 08, 2009, 08:32:39 AM »

MS:

-Perfect Luize battle. Where clipdeaths happen the most.
-Perfect Alice battle. That opener can force me to bomb, if only by probability.
~~-Perfect Yuki & Mai battle.~~ No surprises here.
-Perfect Yuki battle. Raw dodging at its best for 80% of the time. The other 20% is not-so-basic streaming.
-Perfect Mai battle. I theorized, and looked at my replay frame by frame. Figured out what to do.
~~-Perfect Yumeko battle.~~ I wish.

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Over several runs, so still no 1cc yet. Dying with bombs in stock is a really great way to 1cc I hear.

Quote from: Schpwuette on June 08, 2009, 12:38:49 AM

(what was it that he gave up on because of stage 5 SA? a capturing run or something)

Perfect run for Stages 1-3, losing 2 lives to Stage 4. Made it through Stage 5 on his last life. It looked quite hopeless.

Kefit · « **Reply #700 on:** June 08, 2009, 09:47:02 AM »

Quote from: Krim on June 08, 2009, 07:50:24 AM

Run went to shit after Stage 6 Orin though. Died twice between her and Utsuho somehow, and lost my final life to Nuclear Reaction. I think pulling this off is looking promising though, considering the two fail deaths in Stage 6 and a death against Yamame's opener that I shrugged off. I've been trying for bombless MoF 1ccs in the past, but I think I'm going to shift my focus toward doing it in SA.

Bombless SA is infinitely easier to do than bombless MoF, and I really recommend going for it instead of MoF.

In my SA run I die three times on stage five before the midboss, and another three times on ghost wheels, and I still pull it off. MoF, on the other hand, is probably one of the hardest games to do bombless. My bombless run on that is one of my only accomplishments that I really don't think I could do again. SA no bombs took something like two tries once I had the stages worked out. Even without bombs the margin of error in SA is huge due to how many lives are handed out.

Krimmydoodle · « **Reply #701 on:** June 08, 2009, 09:49:32 AM »

Quote from: Krim on June 08, 2009, 07:50:24 AM

a death against Yamame's opener that I shrugged off.

Oh yeah, I remember why I just "shrugged it off". Because SA has the worst. fucking. Stage. 1. ever. I have about 80 attempts of Well Bucket, and about 20 of Spider's Nest. That's 75% of my Stage 1 runs getting rejected between the second half of the stage and Yamame's opener. That's far too high.

Edit: Yay! I actually get through the second half of the stage without getting owned by the ADHD fairies or Yamame's opener and I die to Yamame's second card.

I think this is ~~God~~ Suwako telling me to study for my calc final in four hours. I'm done for tonight.

Zengeku · « **Reply #702 on:** June 08, 2009, 01:56:04 PM »

Yep. SA is a life-fest. Even if you died at Stage 1 there wouldn't be much reason to restart if you've got the stages worked out and aren't going for big score. Its sort of like the opposite of Mountain of Faith where you have an almost infinite amount of super-powerful bombs.

As for an accomplishment. Could someone here explain how in the world unlocking Marisa's last word would ever be considered a challenge? Beating Hard mode + FinalB with Reimu Solo. You don't have to use default lives and with all those lives i'd almost say there is lives enough to bomb-spam everything. Its nice to have that one though because with that, i also unlocked Yukari's Last Word. If i can capture that, i should certainly be able to do it at the end of a Phantasm run and that's a conclusion i want to such a run.

Then i had a perfect Sakuya battle in EoSD on Hard as well as an almost perfect run of Stage 4 and perfect runs of Stage 1-3. I guess its time to redo my EoSD Hard clear.

fallensoul · « **Reply #703 on:** June 08, 2009, 05:40:24 PM »

Oh... 1cc'ed IN Lunatic with Magic Team.

Zengeku · « **Reply #704 on:** June 08, 2009, 07:13:09 PM »

I tried my hand at Alice in MS Extra. I died twice to the mid boss and overall the stage fared like crap. Then i made it to Alice with 1 life left and with it i made it to the phase where she starts sweeping the screen with a laser. That made the emulator glitch completely out. I couldn't tell where anything was.

Reminds me of something else that occured. I randomly tried out LLS Extra. Made it to Gengetu and died there.

Then again. Its just PC98 so i don't wanna play it again!

Kefit · « **Reply #705 on:** June 08, 2009, 07:44:39 PM »

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Could someone here explain how in the world unlocking Marisa's last word would ever be considered a challenge?

It's significantly more difficult than all the other Last Word requirements, which generally don't require anything more difficult than Normal level play to unlock.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #706 on:** June 08, 2009, 07:57:10 PM »

I did a 12 spell card capture run of IN extra here at school again. However, it was NOT satisfying because a derp mistake on Fujiyama Volcano caused the dreaded chain death to start. I also died on the death fairy with full bombs. D: I DID nearly beat the rings of doom, and if I were using Alice I probably would have beaten it.

Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.

fallensoul · « **Reply #707 on:** June 09, 2009, 01:49:31 AM »

And now a 1cc IN Lunatic with Border Team.
Now, I have to do it with Scarlet Team.

SP · « **Reply #708 on:** June 09, 2009, 01:58:53 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 08, 2009, 07:57:10 PM

Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.

Safespot too cheap for you?

theshirn · « **Reply #709 on:** June 09, 2009, 02:12:02 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 08, 2009, 07:57:10 PM

I did a 12 spell card capture run of IN extra here at school again. However, it was NOT satisfying because a derp mistake on Fujiyama Volcano caused the dreaded chain death to start. I also died on the death fairy with full bombs. D: I DID nearly beat the rings of doom, and if I were using Alice I probably would have beaten it.

Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.

IIRC, left, right, left left, right. I'll try it again later.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #710 on:** June 09, 2009, 02:28:21 AM »

Quote from: SP on June 09, 2009, 01:58:53 AM

Safespot too cheap for you?

Yes actually.

Kanako Yasaka · « **Reply #711 on:** June 09, 2009, 02:31:46 AM »

Quote from: SP on June 09, 2009, 01:58:53 AM

Safespot too cheap for you?

Safespot? Where?

Sodium · « **Reply #712 on:** June 09, 2009, 02:50:02 AM »

Quote from: Kanako Yasaka on June 09, 2009, 02:31:46 AM

Safespot? Where?

Death Fairy of IN Extra. For Border Team/Reimu/Yukari only. Exactly the bottom left corner.

fallensoul · « **Reply #713 on:** June 09, 2009, 03:46:32 AM »

I sometimes try to circle the fairy. It's not that hard and works for all teams...

?lice Bl?ckb?rn · « **Reply #714 on:** June 09, 2009, 04:05:33 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 08, 2009, 07:57:10 PM

Question: Exactly what are the movements needed to dodge the death fairy? I know it's a simple pattern, but what is it? If I could harness the power to consistently beat the death fairy, a no deaths IN extra run would be that much closer.

Protip: Check Kefit's videos first, they generally hold the answers to your questions.

This pattern is very simple to dodge and infinitely repeating, moreover this strat works for all teams.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #715 on:** June 09, 2009, 04:08:51 AM »

I've known about that video since before I even beat Mokou, but it doesn't really help me. I'm the type of person who learns much better from written instruction.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #716 on:** June 09, 2009, 08:28:43 AM »

Wewt, SA extra stage clear. Glad I got that out of the way. Worst extra stage ever imo. Seems long and tedious..and and.. even after you learn how to do it it's still unfair sometimes. Kinda like esod's extra stage but at least with esod the hard part is near the beginning so no biggie if you need to reset.

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3560

Not a very clean video. It's the kinda run that I was doing bad enough to almost want to reset but I didn't just so I can get more practice in on the boss and I was getting annoyed at re-clearing the @#@%#ing stage.

Iryan · « **Reply #717 on:** June 09, 2009, 11:26:35 AM »

EoSD Hard 1cc! With the added bonus of capturing Scarlet Gensokyo at the end.

And, again, it went from failing at stage 4 to a 1cc with three lives left.
Okay, the 6 hours of sleep in between may have something to do with that.

I think I have uncovered why I sometimes go from miserably failing to beating with several extra lives. I suck at bombing. Dying with bombs in stock is not the exception but the rule. The succesrate doubles once I start to use bombs more proactively. Especially with the short death bomb timer of EoSDand the absence of a clearly visible hitbox, it does not suffice to press the bomb key when I notice that I am screwed, the delay between me noticing it and my finger having initialized the bombing will be lethal. I have to bomb any time when I am not 100% confident that I will make it.

So, that leaves PCB, SA, LLS, MS and tHRtP to 1cc on hard. (I fail too hard on the vs. shooters and SoEW is... well... let's say I don't like it.)

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #718 on:** June 09, 2009, 01:57:57 PM »

SoEW may suck, but personally I believe it should be beaten simply for completion's sake. I'm honestly surprised I'm one of the only people to have beaten it, because it is the easiest lunatic in the series by far.

Kanako Yasaka · « **Reply #719 on:** June 09, 2009, 02:30:56 PM »

Yeah, it really is.

Just bomb bomb bomb bomb and bomb some more.

Everything that isn't impossible is easy.

Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 263018 times)

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