Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 263031 times)

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #660 on:** June 05, 2009, 07:19:57 AM »

Really? I've always thought Reimu's much harder than Marisa. I guess there's a difference between hard and lunatic.

Speaking of which, since you beat LLS hard so easily, you should have NO trouble with LLS lunatic...

Ghaleon · « **Reply #661 on:** June 05, 2009, 08:33:24 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 07:13:00 AM

...What's "EoTS" supposed to for?

And EoSD totally has a vsynch patch, what are you talking about? It and PCB are the only games that really need them, since the lag in IN is insignificant and you can't notice it unless you try.

I know you can vsync patch it. but you can't without being able to rename your exe the original japanese name. Which I can't do until I find my windows cd because I don't have Japanese enabled under my languages setting in the control panal (which asks for the cd bleh).

LHCling · « **Reply #662 on:** June 05, 2009, 12:12:17 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 07:19:57 AM

Really? I've always thought Reimu's much harder than Marisa. I guess there's a difference between hard and lunatic.

Speaking of which, since you beat LLS hard so easily, you should have NO trouble with LLS lunatic...

It wasn't very easy to do... sort of. However...

...the Rank system is really destroying me on Lunatic. That, and everything, and I mean everything firing snowballs is destroying me ;_;

I know that most Lunatic modes have this type of feature (things that don't normally shoot, start shooting), but this one is just plain awkward. Tiles? Dodge 'em. Oh wait, snowballs? Elly throws a scythe at you, throws tiles at you, and these tiles throw snowballs. Random Kurumi snowballs too from what I witnessed. Fortunately, I didn't get hit.

Looks like I'll be needing some practice first.

Oh, and Kurumi's 2nd phase at Lunatic at base Rank < the said phase at Hard with max Rank >_>
Guess that really tells me how difficult it would be at max Rank. I would've experienced it at max Rank, but I died trying to grazewhore the pre-boss wave. Thought I could do the same thing I did for Stage 1.

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~~All videos uploaded. Waiting for processing to fully finish before I set them to public.~~
Access them through my channel.

fallensoul · « **Reply #663 on:** June 05, 2009, 03:31:56 PM »

1cc'ed LLS Lunatic, Marisa with Laz0rs.

First time seeing Yuka. D:

Ghaleon · « **Reply #664 on:** June 05, 2009, 07:00:06 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 07:13:00 AM

...What's "EoTS" supposed to for?

And EoSD totally has a vsynch patch, what are you talking about? It and PCB are the only games that really need them, since the lag in IN is insignificant and you can't notice it unless you try.

BTW I forgot to mention but I totally notice input lag in all the Touhou's. Sure EoSD and PCB are the worst, but sometimes I launch the game via the regular exe instead of the patch (any of them, IN, MoF, SA), and as soon as I start level one I'll be like EEEK UGH can't take it. It's not like I try.

Kinda funny cuz it didn't really bother me with EoSD to begin with before I tried it for the first time.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #665 on:** June 05, 2009, 07:13:51 PM »

Quote from: FallenSoul on June 05, 2009, 03:31:56 PM

1cc'ed LLS Lunatic, Marisa with Laz0rs.

First time seeing Yuka. D:

Congratulations. Now do it with Reimu A. It's not as though Marisa is broken or anything, but the fact is that Reimu plays a completely different lunatic than Marisa. Mainly, the fact that bosses actually get attack phases that last more than 20 seconds. This is likely more due to the fact that ZUN made Reimu A dreadfully underpowered, but...I recommend trying it out with her.

fallensoul · « **Reply #666 on:** June 05, 2009, 09:26:49 PM »

I'l try that. D:

Anyway... Till now, I just 1cc'ed Lunatic with broken chars... (SakuyaB for PCB, Netherworld Team for IN [are they really broken? Stages are very easy with them], MarisaA for LLS) (not counting PoFV, that I just didn't 1cc Lunatic with Sakuya, Youmu, Tewi and Komachin)

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LOL
Failed on Yuka's near impossible wall, cause missed on her Lunatic Twin Spark (IT'S BIGGER TT__TT) (yes, when I cleared it with MarisaA, she not unleashed it).

LHCling · « **Reply #667 on:** June 05, 2009, 10:23:18 PM »

Alright, after theorizing attack phases, I've manged to do a few things. Kurumi's 2nd phase scared me into bombing though. And I've finally found a way to deal with Elly's snowball wall. Damn trap. But alas, Max rank slaughters me again... This time, it covered the whole screen (bad ~~streaming~~ directing). Then there's that other walling attack phase. Auto-bomb.

Current Status:

...Balls. Very tight gaps. Extra surprised. And the stage, I died with 3 bombs in stock.

I hear it's amazing when you die on the pre-boss waves. Like really, I clipped a small bullet, and lost a life. Now I have 2 lives. 3 bombs against Yuka.

~~...donut, give me strength...~~

Died with bombs in stock again. First phase, I misread a wave. That probably would've been a 1cc if I didn't die with bombs in stock the 2nd time.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #668 on:** June 05, 2009, 10:51:32 PM »

What's to analyze on the bullet walls Elly makes? Maneuver through the first one and dash unfocused to get above the second one. Considering I perfected Elly on max rank (not intentionally; I was out of bombs from the midboss on. >.>), it can't be that hard.

And the stage 4 preboss spam is an autobomb if you can't remember where to start (and I never do >_>) and I've given the stage 5 preboss spam the name "PC-98 books", so don't worry about that.

LHCling · « **Reply #669 on:** June 05, 2009, 10:59:24 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 10:51:32 PM

What's to analyze on the bullet walls Elly makes? Maneuver through the first one and dash unfocused to get above the second one. Considering I perfected Elly on max rank (not intentionally; I was out of bombs from the midboss on. >.>), it can't be that hard.

The first one can be avoided easily. Even at max rank. Dashing unfocused wasn't enough (even with Marisa) for the 2nd one >_>
Due to bad placement.

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 10:51:32 PM

And the stage 4 preboss spam is an autobomb if you can't remember where to start (and I never do >_>) and I've given the stage 5 preboss spam the name "PC-98 books", so don't worry about that.

Stage 4 pre-boss is an auto-bomb for me during this run due to my horrible placement.

Stage 5 pre-boss was an auto-bomb. Well, more like I had to die with 0 bombs in stock, then use a bomb because I got trapped again with the last set of circles.

The 2nd last screenshot is the Stage 6 pre-boss. With the sunflowers and ridiculously easy rings. Yes, I die there with bombs in stock >_>

Looks like I have all the necessary information regarding the stages, and bosses. I'll be doing a recording again. Might not upload immediately though.

Oh, and Reimu wasn't that bad. Only surprising.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, the Stage 3 midboss and Stage 4 midbosses are complete garbage. The Stage 3 one more.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #670 on:** June 05, 2009, 11:08:01 PM »

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The first one can be avoided easily. Even at max rank. Dashing unfocused wasn't enough (even with Marisa) for the 2nd one >_>
Due to bad placement.

I beg to differ. You must simply start closer to the destination.

I always bomb the stage 3 midboss. Not necessarily because he's hard (I always bomb the same spot so I don't even know...), but because after getting through the first two stages it's not really worth it.

If you really want to put your spell card theory business to good use, please analyze the stage 4 midboss' first attack. I believe it is partially an aimed attack, but I am not sure.

And ... at dying to the stage 6 preboss spam. I have never faced that for one simple reason: You're given a full power item that always nullifies it.

LHCling · « **Reply #671 on:** June 05, 2009, 11:19:01 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 11:08:01 PM

If you really want to put your spell card theory business to good use, please analyze the stage 4 midboss' first attack. I believe it is partially an aimed attack, but I am not sure.

k. Though, I seriously think that it's just random spray being fired diagonally towards the center of the screen. Going to analyze my Stage 4 video before I try, so I can position myself in another major area.

~~EDIT: Safespot in the effing corner... provided my current assumption holds true.~~ BAWWWWWW. Null'd

EDIT 2: Though, to do it legitimately, it's just raw dodging. However, I do know the optimal position to do this...

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 05, 2009, 11:08:01 PM

And ... at dying to the stage 6 preboss spam. I have never faced that for one simple reason: You're given a full power item that always nullifies it.

Just a bit before that. Like, 10 seconds.
Actually, lemme get a screenshot at its equivalent point for Hard:

LHCling · « **Reply #672 on:** June 06, 2009, 12:54:18 AM »

Double post, because of this:

Thank you donut for giving me the tip for Elly's seemingly impossible first wall. Staying closer actually helped me swing around the wall at max Rank.

Bombed Stage 5 pre-boss waves twice. 2 lives lost to Reimu. Died on Stage 4 twice more, one with 3 bombs in stock, the other with 2 to the mid-boss (2nd).

The Stage 4 mid-boss's first wave is "aimed" at your position at the time of firing. It does not "trace" you around, so you can move to the side, where it will be obviously less dense, and dodge from there. However, it is still quite a pain to weave through it. I managed to do it once during the same run, and died to it the 2nd time (2 mid-bosses).

Stage 3 mid-boss? Bomb... Like really, random movement blows, especially when he's close to the bottom of the screen, and in the center. Moving up to the top doesn't help, since the mid-boss will move back up, and also the fact that I deal no damage while being above.

And Kurumi's 2nd phase... almost got it. Misread a circle and got an impeding bullet. Because I knew I was going to get hit (I can predict strange things like that, and yet not the fundamentals) I deathbombed.

Also, I survived the double spark by standing in between the two sparks. Really, really close call. I should get a screenshot of it from the video, which I probably won't upload because it's so bad.
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Going through with ReimuA once I regain my stamina.

And is MarisaA > MarisaB in terms of raw damage (to bosses)?

EDIT: for awesomeness.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #673 on:** June 06, 2009, 01:10:10 AM »

No no, please upload it. There does not exist a single lunatic run of LLS on Youtube, so even if it's embarrassing you're doing people who don't have a Nicovideo account a favor. Good job BTW~

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The Stage 4 mid-boss's first wave is "aimed" at your position at the time of firing. It does not "trace" you around, so you can move to the side, where it will be obviously less dense, and dodge from there. However, it is still quite a pain to weave through it. I managed to do it once during the same run, and died to it the 2nd time (2 mid-bosses).

I see...I'll try this next time.

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Also, I survived the double spark by standing in between the two sparks. Really, really close call. I should get a screenshot of it from the video, which I probably won't upload because it's so bad.

I've done that before. It's pretty awesome.

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And is MarisaA > MarisaB in terms of raw damage (to bosses)?

Don't know. I do know that Marisa A does a freakish amount of damage, but I don't usually use Marisa B for some arbitrary reason.

Drake · « **Reply #674 on:** June 06, 2009, 01:17:40 AM »

~~How do you get the patch to work, anyways? The only thing I can do is launch the game using the correct dll, but I'm not sure if that does much of anything and it ignores my score.dat file.~~

cirno meme goes here

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #675 on:** June 06, 2009, 02:47:53 AM »

I just managed my second PoFV normal 1cc. I may not care for the Prismriver sisters, but Lyrica's not bad in this game at all~

EDIT because I'm cool like that: Ah~ I just played PCB stage 5. You know, the one I perfected? I died 6 times. But I don't care. When I get the conviction to do something, it's a double edged sword: I become determined to complete the goal, yeah, but it means that until I do every time playing that stage or that spell card becomes work. It was the same with Scarlet Meister, and it was the same for Q.E.D. I can finally have fun again on this stage~

And so I actually have an accomplishment, I captured Youmu's midboss opener. Now that I've got the ultimate achievement of this stage out of the way, it's high time I learn how to deal with these attacks the intended way.

LHCling · « **Reply #676 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:34:04 AM »

LLS Lunatic 1cc ReimuA.

~~Please wait while I update~~. Also, I die with bombs in stock. Several times. Come out with one spare, and also conclude Marisa is easier to fight against than Reimu.

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The video overall is much better, except for dying with bombs (not uploaded yet).

Stage 3 Midboss done perfectly. Probably just lucky though.

Zengar Zombolt · « **Reply #677 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:50:02 AM »

So I decide to screw around PCB Extra for the lulz. The result? Captured both Blue Oni Red Oni and Wizard Fox Thoughts.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #678 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:54:46 AM »

No offense, but you can't really call capturing Wizard Fox Thoughts an accomplishment, being one of the easiest spell cards in the series and whatnot. Blue Oni Red Oni's a noteworthy achievement though.

Also I did a casual run of LLS lunatic and 1cc'd 1/1. I actually only needed two bombs on Yuka's final phase this time.

LHCling · « **Reply #679 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:49:40 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 06, 2009, 07:54:46 AM

Also I did a casual run of LLS lunatic and 1cc'd 1/1. I actually only needed two bombs on Yuka's final phase this time.

For the record, both of my 1cc's had used 1 life + 2 bombs.

Both have the 2nd bomb used as the phase is clearing. That basically tells you how much I suck at the phase ;_; (or rather, need more practice on it).

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Looking through my video, I can see that I did pretty well against Marisa, losing only 1 life + 2 bombs.

Iryan · « **Reply #680 on:** June 06, 2009, 02:40:39 PM »

Many weeks have passed since my first and only EoSD extra clear, so I thought: "Let's do it again!".

After some tries, I did a second clear. Even though I died many stupid death (on the stage even) with two or more bombs in stock (I suck at bombing, especially in the games where I cannot see the hitbox), I managed to capture all spells in the stage I didn't capture previously, including "Maze of Love", "Counter Clock" and "And Then There Will Be None", except for her Ripples, on which I died 1 second before she exploded. The latter could also be a rage moment, but as I actually did so well on the card up to then it is more of an accomplishment, really.

fallensoul · « **Reply #681 on:** June 06, 2009, 03:58:13 PM »

Oh...
I 1cc'ed LLS Lunatic with ReimuA.
Well, the run was bad (worse than the last one), died many times with bomb in stock, but I managed to beat Yuka with 2 lives and 2 bombs. At the opener phase, bombed the first yellow shots and died on the bullet spam (that one with pink and white shots) with one bomb in stock. Bombed the first clone phase and died for the spinning pattern of blue shot at her second to last phase. Used the two last bombs at the walls (actually, I passed through the first wall -low rank, it was really easy-). 0/0 at the end. =P

Sen · « **Reply #682 on:** June 06, 2009, 06:09:07 PM »

AHAHA, MEDICINE TOTALLY DESTROYS PoFV
After trying the PoFV English patch, I decided to try out Lunatic with Medicine on a whim (note that I can barely 1cc the game with Yuka). Got Shiki down to her last half-dot before dieing in the end~

Seriously Medicine is so broken it's not even funny D:

Other accomplishments...well...(all 1cc's are on Normal, I'm not good enough for HARD MODO).
-1cc EoSD with ReimuB and MarisaA. MarisaA 1cc is so much harder oh god why ;_;
It's weird though, I can't beat Flandre with Reimu yet I've beaten her with Marisa several times. Also scorerunning EoSD with MarisaA!

-PCB, 1cc'd with ReimuB, MarisaA, and SakuyaB. Also cleared Extra with all of them several times each, currently working on a Phantasm clear with SakuyaB. I'm pretty close, I've gotten to Yukari's second-last card a few times now...SakuyaB is so broken~

-IN, 1cc'd and cleared Extra with all teams (no Solos). Working on Last Words right now, I've managed to beat Wriggle, Mystia, Keine, Tei, Eirin, Sakuya, Yuyuko, and Yukari. I'm particularly proud of the Yukari replay, since it's no-focus and supergrazed. Could have made it to six thousand graze, but I chickened out at the end. ):

-PoFV is hard oh god why ;_;. I've only 1cc'd it twice, Yuka and Medicine (SO BROKEN~) on Normal. I'm trying Reisen and Cirno 1ccs, but Sakuya massacres me every time. D:

-MoF, I have nothing to say. I don't like MoF very much ):

-And same for SA! Although I actually like SA! I'm just not good at it. ;_;
I've come extremely close to 1ccing the game with ReimuA and MarisaB. I also CHEATED AHAHA~ and downloaded a score.DAT with Extra unlocked for all characters sans MarisaB. I've gotten to the last phase of Koishi's last card in Extra with ReimuA, but haven't beaten her yet. Stupid [Genetics of the Subconscious]. ):

Waiting for UFO~

LHCling · « **Reply #683 on:** June 06, 2009, 10:01:35 PM »

MS Lunatic + Stage 1 + Max Spirit Gauge = Really difficult

Lurking around the "PoC" for 80% of the time.

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Perfect run on Alice for all the "timeout" phases with the "void". Unfortunately, it wasn't a fully perfect battle.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #684 on:** June 07, 2009, 02:34:51 AM »

Quote from: BaitySM on June 06, 2009, 10:01:35 PM

Perfect run on Alice for all the "timeout" phases with the "void". Unfortunately, it wasn't a fully perfect battle.

*giggles* You consider this an accomplishment? How should I put this...next time, try beating her void phases pacifist.

Then try to avoid screaming and punching the screen in as you realize your stupidity.

fallensoul · « **Reply #685 on:** June 07, 2009, 03:03:22 AM »

"Void" is that reflector?
lol

Alice is quite easy even at Lunatic.

Nuclear Fusion · « **Reply #686 on:** June 07, 2009, 04:13:11 AM »

IN the following order.

1cced IN hard.

Beat IN Extra and got Imperishable Shooting (though I died horribly on it).

Captured Q.E.D after a perfect run of the stage. First death was on Maze of Love (I still have no idea how to run the maze.)

It was a good Friday ^^

LHCling · « **Reply #687 on:** June 07, 2009, 04:35:31 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 07, 2009, 02:34:51 AM

*giggles* You consider this an accomplishment? How should I put this...next time, try beating her void phases pacifist.

Quote from: FallenSoul on June 07, 2009, 03:03:22 AM

"Void" is that reflector?
lol

Alice is quite easy even at Lunatic.

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*tests*
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How did I not see this? Very interesting.

Nuclear Fusion · « **Reply #688 on:** June 07, 2009, 04:56:47 AM »

And that's a 1cc of PCB Hard.

That just leaves MoF Hard, and then it's time to start doing Lunatic.

LHCling · « **Reply #689 on:** June 07, 2009, 10:36:47 AM »

I am well on the way to MS Lunatic 1cc. Now if it weren't for the ridiculous factor of Shinki's opening (am I doing something wrong?), and DYING with bombs in stock on the stages... The flower-like burst is killing me 1-in-5 times.

Here's a screenshot of a 400 Extend! For the record, bombing should only be done for getting extra Point Items if there are a lot of Point Items on the screen. Otherwise, they turn into [P]'s. 1 bomb was used on Stage 6, but it was unnecessary for Point Item obtaining. So yes, it's entirely possible to get ~400 Point Items before fighting Shinki (I've had many cases of 396-399). Just probably not with Yuka.

Yumeko.

Yet Another Stupid Death for the green "walls". I was trying something new. The phase with the side knives also contains Yet Another Stupid Death. Panicking is great. Apart from that, there you go. ~~Plain and simple.~~ Why do I always do something wrong? ;_;