Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 263045 times)

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #570 on:** May 31, 2009, 08:22:13 PM »

Quote from: SP on May 31, 2009, 12:04:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI-u7zCjquM&fmt=22

Saigyouji Flawless Nirvana, Phantom of the Grand Guignol, and Emperor of the East timed out.

Way, way, too awesome!

I still can't believe I got that timeout.

I'm still waiting for that LLS extra pacifist run.

Azinth · « **Reply #571 on:** June 01, 2009, 01:14:55 AM »

Finally 3cced Banshiryuu c67 on lunatic! It was with max lives but oh well, at least I now have all stages unlocked for practice.

The last boss fight is quite strange. The entire first half is made up of extremely easy patterns, but then in her last two phases she seems to go "Oh yeah I'm supposed to be a final boss aren't I" and starts flooding the screen with bullets and homing lasers. Luckily I had some extra lives left at that point, so I just held the bomb button down until the shitstorm ended.

I still hope to eventually 1cc this with default lives. Not necessarily this month, or even next month, but someday...

LHCling · « **Reply #572 on:** June 01, 2009, 05:29:04 AM »

"GRT" timed down and gone. 2 lives, 5 bombs total. Started said phase with 3 lives, 1 bomb.

Taking out that time from "GRT", which lasts about 1 minute (a bit over I think), it leaves ~13 seconds in "GRT" where I actually dodged without invulnerability (of course, I still tried to dodge with invulnerability for practice and such). Divide that down, and you get about 2 seconds in before I needed to bomb. Again.

Seems like those 6 seconds of victory were a complete fluke ;_;

Some analysis:

-The bullets move so fast, that not even Reimu's unfocus speed can outrun it; this needs a Marisa check, though PC-98 Marisa doesn't seem to be fast like the current Marisa.
-Circles. Lots and lots of circles. Too bad not all of the bullets are 1x1 in dimensions like the snowballs.
-Fortunately, the bursts are close to each other (in terms of position), so it's like almost like dodging a circle after another circle, etc. Unlike Mokou's Rings of Death, which are a bit more spread out
-Another close comparison to "GRT" would be Mid-boss Orin Stage 4 Lunatic SA.

Going to research "GRT" a bit more from my video file.

For some reason, researching this is fun.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #573 on:** June 01, 2009, 05:34:31 AM »

Just don't go insane.

I don't think timing out GRT is healthy.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #574 on:** June 01, 2009, 08:20:57 AM »

And now for something completely different.

Turns out HRtP lunatic is possible for people not named Shadowbringer.

This is the first Touhou lunatic I've achieved for a non-shooter. :O This brings me to (9) lunatics. :O :O

Though I think I'd have to 1cc the Makai route too before I can consider this a true 1cc.

LHCling · « **Reply #575 on:** June 01, 2009, 08:37:29 AM »

~~Why is my Easy Mode score close you your Lunatic one?~~

Congrats. You've just inspired me to go for Normal.

~~Now do PoDD Lunatic.~~ Kidding. You're like a rolemodel to me.

Generalguy · « **Reply #576 on:** June 01, 2009, 08:40:57 AM »

EoSD Normal with max lives.

I can finally fool around in the Extra Stage! First attempt, got to Flandre and proceeded to completely screw up on Laevatein.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #577 on:** June 01, 2009, 08:41:48 AM »

Heh, me a role model? It's so weird to think I could be one. Thanks anyway.

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Why is my Easy Mode score close you your Lunatic one?

I play to beat lunatics. I don't play for score. Really, I'm almost ashamed how low my scores are, how people just casually score running on normal are far higher than my lunatic scores.

LHCling · « **Reply #578 on:** June 01, 2009, 10:19:37 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 01, 2009, 08:41:48 AM

I play to beat lunatics. I don't play for score. Really, I'm almost ashamed how low my scores are, how people just casually score running on normal are far higher than my lunatic scores.

It's strange for HRtP though. The scoring I mean. Difficulty doesn't change your score that much. Especially with turrets (and cards shooting at you for Lunatic). Anyway:

My score would be a lot higher if I didn't break the chain at Stage 19, twice. Both at ~40. Also, died at Mima 5 times in 15 seconds. There's something wrong with my play style and Mima, seriously.

Also, what is that thing in the Ending? For Hell (Jigoku) Path.

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And I might have just found a way to bypass the proxy when it's dealing with uploading huge files. Going to test it tomorrow morning.

Noite · « **Reply #579 on:** June 01, 2009, 01:20:07 PM »

PCB extra cleared! Oh well not that much of an accomplishment, it felt way too easy, but still every extra completed apart from SA! (which I haven't even unlocked yet :x)

Only 1cced hard on IN, so I have EOSD, PCB and MoF hard or SA normal, any of them considerably easier or are they basically at the same level?

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #580 on:** June 01, 2009, 02:14:07 PM »

Oh, a tip for Baity that kind of (read: completely) made that lunatic 1cc possible: If you bomb on certain levels, your score will go off the charts and you will often gain one extra life from that alone. In fact, bomb on level 19 of the Jigoku route, and you can get 4 or even 5 lives. The only reason I beat Konngara was because I entered her with max lives.

Sadly, the lesser amount of tiles in the Makai route prevents this from working there as well. ;_;

Garlyle · « **Reply #581 on:** June 01, 2009, 03:09:57 PM »

Okay. What is this Gengetu Rape Time, and is there a video of it somewhere?

(Oh, and I brought this up elsewhere too, but, I love Marisa B Showoffs)

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #582 on:** June 01, 2009, 06:22:11 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS-o5nYe9pw&feature=channel_page

Skip to 4:00, and it will begin soon. It is the name given to Gengetu (LLS extra boss in case you don't know)'s special phase if you try timing out her last attack phase. The name is quite apt.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #583 on:** June 01, 2009, 07:37:33 PM »

Quote from: Noite on June 01, 2009, 01:20:07 PM

PCB extra cleared! Oh well not that much of an accomplishment, it felt way too easy, but still every extra completed apart from SA! (which I haven't even unlocked yet :x)

Only 1cced hard on IN, so I have EOSD, PCB and MoF hard or SA normal, any of them considerably easier or are they basically at the same level?

nice, I'm intending to finish every normal and extra before I work on hards too. I'm thinking of skipping the extra stage for IN though. I just didn't like IN as much as esod or pcb (didn't like pcb at first either but the vsync patch really helped), and I've watched a replay for the extra boss, while it looks challenging, her music totally sucks >=P.. plus the fact that over half her bullets are actually those domino thingies.. I dunno, just doesn't looks as "epic" as esod/pcb's extra stages.

I don't know if you meant phantasm by extra. You really should try it too. It can seem pretty hard to begin with but once you get the hang of it, it's really not much worse than the regular extra stage in pcb. And the final boss is very cool (music is awsomeness). Some people say some of her attacks are even easier than rans' version. I personaly think this is bologne. I can't think of a single spellcard she has that's easier than the ran equivilent. I'd say protection of zenki and goki (or whatever its called) is easier than red oni blue oni, but that's not even her spell to begin with. But they aren't MUCH harder.

Noite · « **Reply #584 on:** June 01, 2009, 07:52:49 PM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on June 01, 2009, 07:37:33 PM

nice, I'm intending to finish every normal and extra before I work on hards too. I'm thinking of skipping the extra stage for IN though. I just didn't like IN as much as esod or pcb (didn't like pcb at first either but the vsync patch really helped), and I've watched a replay for the extra boss, while it looks challenging, her music totally sucks >=P.. plus the fact that over half her bullets are actually those domino thingies.. I dunno, just doesn't looks as "epic" as esod/pcb's extra stages.

I don't know if you meant phantasm by extra. You really should try it too. It can seem pretty hard to begin with but once you get the hang of it, it's really not much worse than the regular extra stage in pcb. And the final boss is very cool (music is awsomeness). Some people say some of her attacks are even easier than rans' version. I personaly think this is bologne. I can't think of a single spellcard she has that's easier than the ran equivilent. I'd say protection of zenki and goki (or whatever its called) is easier than red oni blue oni, but that's not even her spell to begin with. But they aren't MUCH harder.

Well, I tried phantasm a few times, mainly just so I could see yukari's intro dialogue, and so far it seems a LOT harder than 1ccing hard on the other games, so I didn't even suggest that as a possible next step

You should definitely give IN extra a go, it's probably the easiest extra, plus you can use spell practice on mokou's cards, so it shouldn't take long at all.

Ghaleon · « **Reply #585 on:** June 01, 2009, 08:06:05 PM »

Quote from: Noite on June 01, 2009, 07:52:49 PM

Well, I tried phantasm a few times, mainly just so I could see yukari's intro dialogue, and so far it seems a LOT harder than 1ccing hard on the other games, so I didn't even suggest that as a possible next step

You should definitely give IN extra a go, it's probably the easiest extra, plus you can use spell practice on mokou's cards, so it shouldn't take long at all.

yeah, but I've learned many a moons ago to not play a game if you aren't enjoying it. I just didn't enjoy IN much. I'll clear it simply for bragging rights after I beat all the other ones that I enjoy more >=).

the phantasm stage itself IS much harder than extra, I mean the boss isn't terribly much harder. I can never get past those stupid pentegram turret thingies just before the boss. And the fairies immediately after midboss ran love making me use both my bombs.. ugh. Stages in general are made much easier once you memorize most of it though.

I had a hard time with the very beginning too. But it's not soo bad once you get the hang of it. I watch some people hug the bottom and move left/right for the start, I don't suggest this. Practice doing it so you actually get the power ups, it really helps you beat the part where the fairies come from the top of the screen firing 1 of 2 kinds of spread shots.

LHCling · « **Reply #586 on:** June 01, 2009, 09:22:04 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 01, 2009, 02:14:07 PM

Oh, a tip for Baity that kind of (read: completely) made that lunatic 1cc possible: If you bomb on certain levels, your score will go off the charts and you will often gain one extra life from that alone. In fact, bomb on level 19 of the Jigoku route, and you can get 4 or even 5 lives. The only reason I beat Konngara was because I entered her with max lives.

Sadly, the lesser amount of tiles in the Makai route prevents this from working there as well. ;_;

For non-Lunatic, the cards / tiles don't fire back (and with no turrets, I have free movement). I should be able to do Stage 19 without bombing >_>
I ended up with a 91-chain on Easy. Regardless, I got a whole load of lives, even when breaking the chain twice.

Heaven (Makai) route can only be scorewhored to a certain extent.

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It would be quite strange if I could do Hard (Hell; Jigoku) now, and not Normal (Heaven; Makai).... or would it?

Garlyle · « **Reply #587 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:18:48 PM »

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Skip to 4:00, and it will begin soon. It is the name given to Gengetu (LLS extra boss in case you don't know)'s special phase if you try timing out her last attack phase. The name is quite apt.

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Ghaleon · « **Reply #588 on:** June 02, 2009, 12:03:52 AM »

Quote from: Garlyle on June 01, 2009, 11:18:48 PM

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looks kinda like eternal meek meets scarlet underworld.. or whatever that spell was called.

stargroup · « **Reply #589 on:** June 02, 2009, 02:42:31 AM »

Eternal Meek x Pandemonium

fallensoul · « **Reply #590 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:20:51 AM »

I tried that...
I get raped.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #591 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:32:57 AM »

Hee hee, I never get tired of seeing people's reaction to that. Further proof that Gengetu's absolutely STUNNING. <3

Silentsword · « **Reply #592 on:** June 02, 2009, 03:55:55 AM »

Quote from: Ghaleon on June 01, 2009, 07:37:33 PM

Some people say some of her attacks are even easier than rans' version. I personaly think this is bologne. I can't think of a single spellcard she has that's easier than the ran equivilent. I'd say protection of zenki and goki (or whatever its called) is easier than red oni blue oni, but that's not even her spell to begin with. But they aren't MUCH harder.

Princess Tenko is considerably harder than Yukari's equivalent (whose name escapes me at the moment...). The tempo of Princess Tenko accelerates quite a bit over the life of the spellcard, making it increasingly more difficult if you can't pump fire into Ran on a continuous basis. Yukari's just stays at the same pace the entire time (or speeds up so slowly as to not make a difference), and she provides those convenient lasers to guide your escapes.

12 General Gods is also a bit harder than Yukari's 2d card, but not by much, and it's a different "kind of hard" - 12 General Gods is all about extremely tight maneuvering, while Yukari's is about manipulating her behaviour. So, in my experience, Marisa finds 12GG a pain and Yukari's cake, while Reimu is...not the reverse, but they're about the same difficulty.

I also find Shikigami Chen harder than Shikigami Ran, but that seems to stem from a personal quirk (Ran's straight lines/diamond pattern are easy and fall within the patterns set by the level. Chen's "pushes" cause me to dissect the problem differently from all the other spellcards), rather than actual "difficulty" differences

...as for my own personals...clearing Ran and Yukari within a month or two of first picking up Touhou would qualify as the first. 1CCing MoF on Normal, first try, too. Also, just tonight, capturing 8 of Mokou's cards (missed once on Volcano and again on Possessed) with Magic team...after having been massacred during the actual stage.

Gambit · « **Reply #593 on:** June 02, 2009, 04:37:58 AM »

1cced PCB hard with MarisaA and it surprised me that I actually managed pull it off considering I've never been good with the shot type.

Replay for those interested:
http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3481

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #594 on:** June 02, 2009, 06:45:16 AM »

Well then. I guess that's the end of HRtP! I'm kind of disappointed the Makai route came so easily all of a sudden though...

LHCling · « **Reply #595 on:** June 02, 2009, 11:04:45 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on June 02, 2009, 06:45:16 AM

1cc Lunatic HRtP Heaven / Makai Route.

What.

Oh, and a "strange" accomplishment would be finally finding the problem with my PC. Now I can play EoSD without hoping the game doesn't lag constantly.

"Scarlet Meister" at Lunatic, so close... ;_;
2 more seconds. 2 more bloody seconds. 3rd attempt too.

...though, oddly, I did manage to get "Emerald Megalith"... >_>
Don't know how either. Maybe I should learn to master these completely garbage Spell Cards. And don't ask for a replay, I used a continue (on max lives) to plow through for the sake of Practice Mode. You'd think I would need more to than one continue to go through on default lives (why else did I push it to max lives?), but nooo... I actually had a decent run.

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Perfect Stage 4 Normal Pacifist (stage portion only). Attempting to add unfocus to this.
Perfect Normal Satori Battle (ReimuA) Unfocus. Except for DBDB. That is a nightmare to move around unfocused in. I could probably do timeout for this. Not going to try yet though.

EDIT: DBDB is completely garbage on Normal / Hard (as I have mentioned previously).

Krimmydoodle · « **Reply #596 on:** June 02, 2009, 11:50:37 AM »

After being in hibernation for the last month or two, I've finally settled an old grudge with MoF Stage 6. (Who the hell dies on noncard 3 and only noncard 3, anyway?)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3485
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSvfmoEVSOo&fmt=18 (No fancy-schmancy HD for me.)

This just leaves Stage 4 for no death/no bomb Lunatic MoF.

bjw · « **Reply #597 on:** June 02, 2009, 12:00:53 PM »

Quote from: Krim on June 02, 2009, 11:50:37 AM

After being in hibernation for the last month or two, I've finally settled an old grudge with MoF Stage 6. (Who the hell dies on noncard 3 and only noncard 3, anyway?)

http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3485

This just leaves Stage 4 for no death/no bomb Lunatic MoF.

Took you long enough

trancehime · « **Reply #598 on:** June 02, 2009, 12:10:29 PM »

Did I post here? No?

I guess I should. Maybe it will give Donut an excuse to get better, since he idolized me at one point >_>

1) 1cc'd Lunatic Makai / Jigoku paths in HRtP
2) 1cc'd Lunatic SoEW with all
3) 1cc'd Lunatic PoDD with all
4) 1cc'd Lunatic LLS with all
5) 1cc'd Lunatic MS with all
6) Survived Gengetsu Rape Time with only 1 death (it was a required suicide for bombs / rank loss, other than that it was complete luckhax)
7) No Missed MS Extra
8) No Missed LLS Extra
9) 1LC Jigoku HRtP Normal
10) 1cc'd Lunatic PoFV

Zengeku · « **Reply #599 on:** June 02, 2009, 01:22:41 PM »

Kind of sad really. I beat 10 spellcards in EoSD extra. But i died a lot to the stage due to accidedents and was therefore unable to to clear the stage. I even died to one of her attacks, you know the easy ones.

Quote from: RegulusHime on June 02, 2009, 12:10:29 PM

Did I post here? No?

I guess I should. Maybe it will give Donut an excuse to get better, since he idolized me at one point >_>

1) 1cc'd Lunatic Makai / Jigoku paths in HRtP
2) 1cc'd Lunatic SoEW with all
3) 1cc'd Lunatic PoDD with all
4) 1cc'd Lunatic LLS with all
5) 1cc'd Lunatic MS with all
6) Survived Gengetsu Rape Time with only 1 death (it was a required suicide for bombs / rank loss, other than that it was complete luckhax)
7) No Missed MS Extra
No Missed LLS Extra
9) 1LC Jigoku HRtP Normal
10) 1cc'd Lunatic PoFV

Tread carefully with that. A lot of impressive feats and no replays to back it up as its PC98 almost all of it. You might get accused of bullshitting us.

Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 263045 times)

Gambit