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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #480 on: May 26, 2009, 06:56:51 AM »
Probably PCB.

BTW, if you're facing Gengetu Rape Time, you're doing it wrong, because that's what happens when you try timing out her last phase. The phase I'm pretty sure you're thinking of has the unofficial name of Gengetu Spark.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #481 on: May 26, 2009, 08:13:22 AM »
...

*tries against Satori's non-spell cards*

ASDKFLJASKDLGJASDFKLJASDFKL AUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHH!

Nobody EVER tells me these things! D: See, this is exactly what I mean by "so many little things to learn." I never knew you could do that.

Well, I've been playing for about 18 months now, and I'm still improving little by little, so don't you worry about that. And move on to another game.

QFT.  This would have saved me SO MUCH PAIN timing out Phantom of the Grand Guignol.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #482 on: May 26, 2009, 03:06:50 PM »
If it counts, 2/2 for MOF Extra Stage Kanako's 2nd spell card, despite that being my only 2 attempts, never seen it before this :S

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #483 on: May 26, 2009, 06:11:31 PM »
And in other news... This morning, MoF Lunatic 1cc. Hooray. Kanako's opening is...  <_<
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF---

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #484 on: May 26, 2009, 07:53:10 PM »
LAG-FREE PCB IS SO FREAKING AMAZING SWEET JESUS.

Stage 3, no deaths, no bombs, one border break on Benevolent Orlean's Dolls.  I should have had that one too, but I got clipped at the last second -_-.  I'm going to wait and see if I can get a perfect run before uploading anything.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #485 on: May 26, 2009, 08:03:00 PM »
Lag-free IN is also wonderful.

I scored 3,69B in border team lunatic now, capturing all 5 Kaguya's Last Spells. Really, i didn't expect it was this significant using Vysnc patch. It really felt like cheating. Replay here

I'm confused now. Is my run legit at all?

Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #486 on: May 26, 2009, 08:24:13 PM »
Lag-free IN is also wonderful.

I scored 3,69B in border team lunatic now, capturing all 5 Kaguya's Last Spells. Really, i didn't expect it was this significant using Vysnc patch. It really felt like cheating. Replay here

I'm confused now. Is my run legit at all?

Of course. The lag is not supposed to be part of the game - it generally seems caused by incompatible keyboards and/or video card drivers. I dunno, really. But I didn't have the lag on a very old PC even without the patch. By the way, I don't get lag in IN if I run it in Windows 98 compatibility mode without the patch. This doesn't work for EoSD and PCB, though.

This sort of makes me wonder how many players were seriously playing these games thinking such hideous control lag was normal. No wonder people would doubt my EoSD runs...
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #487 on: May 26, 2009, 08:29:04 PM »
^Agreed.  I don't see why fixing an unfavorable design flaw would be considered cheating.  It just allows us to play the game as the creator originally meant for us to play it.

Besides, it's not like it completely breaks the game like, say, MarisaBugged.  It just allows for more precise movement through tight attacks and prevents a few cheap deaths. 

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #488 on: May 26, 2009, 08:31:50 PM »
Okay, screw EoSD Lunatic, I'll do that one last. Time for MoF Lunatic, because that's the easiest one to clear apparently.

Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #489 on: May 26, 2009, 08:52:59 PM »
A minor accomplishment - I dodged Rage Trilithon even though it seemed to consistently throw [relatively] BS waves at me. Basically it was one of those moments where you realise you've gotten better - this time in precise, complicated dodges.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #490 on: May 26, 2009, 09:10:44 PM »


It's about time I managed to do this considering LLS is supposed to be one of the easiest of the series, but whatever. Now I've got MS, EoSD, PCB and SA left for hard.


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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #491 on: May 26, 2009, 09:37:50 PM »
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF---

WOULD YOU STOP DOING EVERYTHING BEFORE I CAN?!
It's a bomb-spam management run.

Probably PCB.

BTW, if you're facing Gengetu Rape Time, you're doing it wrong, because that's what happens when you try timing out her last phase. The phase I'm pretty sure you're thinking of has the unofficial name of Gengetu Spark.
Quite sure it wasn't Gengetu Spark. It was either the phase after that (2nd last?), or the last phase (well, the start of it). Guess I should try timing it out... after clearing.

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Also, regarding the use of the VSync patch. If I think you're using the files that I'm using, then there should also be a "fix" for MarisaB(ugged). Note that it will de-sync just about every replay that uses the bugged power, even for a split second. The only time when it shouldn't is when the bugged power was used to destroy those one-shot fairies.

Didn't think that the majority actually suffered from input lag from the older titles. I don't seem to have it.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #492 on: May 27, 2009, 12:36:21 AM »
I just captured Resurrection Butterfly for the second time ever.  Have I mentioned that Lag-free PCB is freaking amazing?  Because it is.

Edit:  Whoa, Lunasa's second nonspell isn't bullshit anymore.  I was always wondering about that...
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #493 on: May 27, 2009, 02:22:01 AM »
At long last...I have cleared every scene in StB. :D 10-5 and EX-2 have been downed, and so has that slut.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #494 on: May 27, 2009, 02:25:30 AM »
Captured Vamp Illusion again. Woohoo.

And again.

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Alrighty then, I can near-perfect Remilia and yet absolutely fail at Extra stage.

Aaaaand captured Green Books o' Death.
Aaaaand perfect Patchy fight. Including Max rank Mercury Poison and Bury in Lake.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #495 on: May 27, 2009, 03:08:30 AM »
My first ever Extra Stage clear! PCB Extra with ReimuB.

I had the urge to start up PCB Extra again over the weekend after a long layoff and within my second or third try, I got to Ultimate Buddhist which was the farthest I had ever gotten. Spent 2-3 hours on Monday improving in general, particularly aspects of the Stage, Chen's cards and Banquet. My last run on Monday got me to Descent of Izuna Gongen with 0/0 and I was a nervous wreck and didn't quite pull it off.

Cue to today and after about 20-30 mins, I got my clear. Run was crappy in quite a few regards, but I had some good moments here and there.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #496 on: May 27, 2009, 03:21:37 AM »
It's a bomb-spam management run.
Believe me, I know.  I think my best run so far totalled 3 power on deaths (once with 2 power, once with 1).  And that one got over halfway through Kanako.

No, wait, I died with full power or her third noncard.  The trivially easy one.  But up until Kanako, I was spamming managing my bombs very very well.  I haven't had much of a chance to play today, nor, likely, tomorrow, but I'll hopefully beat it by the end of next week...

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #497 on: May 27, 2009, 04:23:33 AM »
Believe me, I know.  I think my best run so far totalled 3 power on deaths (once with 2 power, once with 1).  And that one got over halfway through Kanako.

No, wait, I died with full power or her third noncard.  The trivially easy one.  But up until Kanako, I was spamming managing my bombs very very well.  I haven't had much of a chance to play today, nor, likely, tomorrow, but I'll hopefully beat it by the end of next week...

I don't get how everyone does the third nonspell so well. It's so hard for me, I almost always bomb once.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #498 on: May 27, 2009, 04:28:03 AM »
Left, up, right, down, move over, repeat.  With ReimuB you only have to to it two, maybe three times.  It's pathetically easy, really.  So is her second.  Her fourth can be tricky, and her first is COMPLETE BS, but her second and third are jokes.  I used to bomb it until I did it once and realized that was a complete waste.

I'll throw up a replay if you really have trouble with it.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #499 on: May 27, 2009, 05:05:00 AM »
I finally beat Orin and Utsuho, although when I got to Utsuho I had to use a continue, but I kind of expected that. Now that I have practice for the both I can now practice until I get all the stages down and am finally able to 1cc it.. Maybe before UFO even. *Changes signature*

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #500 on: May 27, 2009, 05:17:38 AM »
Holy crap! With the vsynch patch, PCB stage 3 is a LOT easier! I always thought there was more a reason why I had ever only captured Benevolent Orleans Dolls once than my incompetence...^_^

Hell God Sword still hasn't gotten any easier, unfortunately. ;_;
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #501 on: May 27, 2009, 07:33:05 AM »
Yeah I'm gonna need a replay for that one. I never bothered finding a pattern for it, I've always tried to find whatever opening was closest to me.

But I'd have to disagree about the 4th nonspell. It's actually incredibly easy. One is barely even streaming, one of them is, and one requires a little bit of reflexes, not much even.

The first one is incredibly hard, yeah, but I don't think it's bs. I just think it's a fair but really hard move.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #502 on: May 27, 2009, 07:50:20 AM »
I just tried PCB in earnest this time (1 full clear of normal with continues). I got to stage 4 without 1 death. But the boss completely obliterated me. I think I died like 5 times on them. I forget what my problem was.

But after that it seemed like the vast majority of things that killed me seemed "cheap". I mean, stuff spawning where I did not expect it to, or had no warning about. Bullets heading in 1 direction, I skim past them to avoid it, and then BAM they change diretion and own me. Or mobs spawning out of thin air (I noticed on stage 2 you could see circles where they spawn before they do, but on later stages I saw no such warning).

Final boss seemed utterly impossible to have a good chance of beating without experience. No matter how skilled I would be. Namely butterfly bullets spreading or growing or accelerating suddenly without warning all of a sudden at certain points really threw me off.

Do I just suck at PCB or is it "cheaper" than esod? I had to use 2 continues on the final boss alone. Funny thing is I managed to spellcard steal what I thought was her final spellcard..the one before she turns into a ghost in front of a tree or whatever it was. I thought it was her last because the amount of health that particular spellcard had seemed like 5X more than most.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #503 on: May 27, 2009, 07:52:23 AM »
I'd call EoSD the cheapest Touhou game simply because of all the times you can get screwed over with no chance of escape. PCB is fairer in comparison for sure.

And Yuyuko isn't as hard as Remilia, so yeah.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #504 on: May 27, 2009, 07:54:44 AM »
wow fast reply. I was going to edit my post and add a further question. But you already posted, thanks and sorry.

Is it just me or does Sakuya suck.. I mean. She has the biggest hitbox, she has garbage bombs, she has low damage, with insane spread, but not even homing. I mean what about her is good that I'm just too dumb to understand at this point.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #505 on: May 27, 2009, 08:21:39 AM »
Is it just me or does Sakuya suck.. I mean. She has the biggest hitbox, she has garbage bombs, she has low damage, with insane spread, but not even homing. I mean what about her is good that I'm just too dumb to understand at this point.
She may have low damage, but SakuyaA does have 4 bombs, which means significantly more "lives" to get through the stage. And she does make up for that low power with homing shots. SakuyaB, however, I don't think there are any advantages to using her besides a really long time to execute a bomb, which Gil uses for his no vertical Phantasm run, and that seems kinda useless.

Some of the Touhou characters are pretty unbalanced, but what're ya gonna do haha

Also, from my experience, I'd have to say that the cheapest games are in this order from most to least:

IN has tons of weird spell cards that you just have to memorize, and a lot of them involve streaming, so you'd have to know where to place yourself. As a result, you have cheap cards that involve more memorizing than dodging and overall incredibly hard to do without getting familiar with the game.

PCB is a very friendly and fair game from the start, but starting from the last spell of stage 4 it starts to get bs. Stage 5 has some cards that are so dense they will definitely take a while to learn, and Yuyuko has the most annoying homing attacks ever. If anything is unfair in this game, it's Yuyuko. Lots of streaming that eventually traps most people in corners and such.

EoSD can be quite difficult, but most of these attacks are sightread-able, and to be honest, the few parts of the stages that are annoying can easily be bombed through. Sakuya's patterns are difficult, but not as dense as Youmu's, and Remilia's attacks are just plain hard, but at least they're doable, unlike Yuyuko's attacks, which focus on heavy homing.

SA is a very unfriendly for beginners because of the overall speed and unusual patterns found throughout the game. Stages are especially tricky to do your first time. For the most part however, the spell cards are very fair, although some of them do have gimmicks that will almost throw everyone off the first time. Luckily, bombs are based on the power system, which is the key reason why this is below PCB.

MoF is a great game because the patterns are very true to the bullet hell genre. Very few elements aren't fair. The cards are clean, simple, and creative without straying so far that it will catch you unexpectedly. And, bombs are based off the power system, so you can bomb as many times as you need.

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #506 on: May 27, 2009, 11:28:22 AM »
*shock and awe*



Died with bombs in stock a few times.

Notable deaths include:

-"midboss"
-the circles of doom (mis-timed a switch-stream)
-Mugetu's first and second phases
-Gengetu's super-easy streaming for score phase; I forgot to add an extra tap, and got a face full of bullets.

It's so fun to play.

<3 Mugetu and Gengetu.

Note that I usually play as Reimu, if only because its easier to recognize the location of the hitbox (a ribbon instead of the end of the hair).

EDIT:

This one was more frustrating. Simply because I died 3 times at the end phase, each with 2 bombs in stock.

Most interesting death(s)?

-Gengetu's 2nd phase. Where she shoots the diagonal-moving bullets that bounce all over the screen. She was in the center. I was boxed.
-Shotgun Mugetu out of habit. At the start of the 2nd phase. That's where the high speed bullets come out  >_>

Oh, and I'll go for timing out the last phase once I get there with enough lives.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #507 on: May 27, 2009, 02:07:21 PM »
Good luck~ And good job. All I can say is that Gengetu is indeed <3 <3 <3.

And a protip: Neither of them actually have invincibility before the battle starts. You can shotgun them for extra damage at the very start of the battle.
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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #508 on: May 27, 2009, 09:34:04 PM »
Finally 1CCed TouhouDS lol Reimuhax

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Re: Touhou Accomplishments
« Reply #509 on: May 27, 2009, 09:36:09 PM »
Good luck~ And good job. All I can say is that Gengetu is indeed <3 <3 <3.

And a protip: Neither of them actually have invincibility before the battle starts. You can shotgun them for extra damage at the very start of the battle.
I noted pre-shotgunning before. I've used it for a while.

Anyway, upon taking too long to do a certain phase (hmm, I wonder which one?), Gengetu unleased "Rape Time". That's fast. Ended up bombing at every instant where I wasn't invulnerable, else I would've been hit.
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