Author Topic: Touhou Accomplishments (Read 263017 times)

Drake · « **Reply #360 on:** May 16, 2009, 05:35:58 PM »

Oh. Normal Mode version is loleasy.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #361 on:** May 16, 2009, 06:43:30 PM »

I just captured Killing Doll at max rank. Hooray!

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #362 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:50:30 AM »

Actually, I think it was a little below max rank. >_< Ah well, a capture of that card is still impressive.

Anyway, I just beat IN lunatic stage 4a with no deaths. No replay since my 4b one had a more impressive feat, but I did capture 3 of Reimu's spell cards. I would have captured Double Duplex Barrier, but I got spooked and bombed before it fully registered that I was somehow in between both the red bullets AND the grey bullets without getting hit. Hooray for border team hax.

Zengeku · « **Reply #363 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:51:07 AM »

Quote from: Drake on May 16, 2009, 05:35:58 PM

Oh. Normal Mode version is loleasy.

Yep. No challenge whatsoever. On the topic of EoSD i saw that i hadn't cleared Normal mode as MarisaA so i went ahead an fixed that. Everything went pretty well except for Remi which was a catastrophe. I only captured Scarlet Shot. During that run i also managed to capture all of Patchouli's spellcards so i'm done with the spells of EoSD Normal now. Then again, nothing Patchy have on Normal is any kind of threat. If any, it would be those fireball things. Now its time for Hard mode.

And in Mountain of Faith i was playing around with the superior Miko and i managed to capture her 2nd spellcard two times. It should have been three but i got hit at the last split-second of the third time because i got careless. That card just seem to be easier and easier for everytime i try it. Maybe i should try timing it out. First, though i have to figure out a way to manage "the guests".

Arcengal · « **Reply #364 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:03:09 PM »

FINALLY beat SA extra with Marisa A. It took me 53 or so attempts, repeatedly dying to clipdeaths OVER and OVER and OVER again.

I had a replay of me dying between attacks (to the extent where I got the star-item for the barrage and was able to get the spellcard bonus as well), but I overwrote it by accident. Deaths like that are the reason I prefer 6,7 and 8 to 10 and 11.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #365 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:22:10 PM »

Quote from: Arcengal on May 17, 2009, 08:03:09 PM

FINALLY beat SA extra with Marisa A. It took me 53 or so attempts, repeatedly dying to clipdeaths OVER and OVER and OVER again.

I had a replay of me dying between attacks (to the extent where I got the star-item for the barrage and was able to get the spellcard bonus as well), but I overwrote it by accident. Deaths like that are the reason I prefer 6,7 and 8 to 10 and 11.

That happened to me once against Yukari in PCB. It was the closest I ever got to losing my perfect history against Yukari's Spiriting Away.

Azinth · « **Reply #366 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:54:34 PM »

SA Lunatic 1cc!!! Second serious 1cc attempt ever, and I got it! Hooray!

This run was a horrible sloppy mess, just like all SA first 1ccs should be! I entered stage 5 with six extra lives and exited stage 6 with none at all. Highlights include:
-Forgetting to shoot during Yuugi's second boss nonspell and getting a laser spawned on top of me.
-Accidentally timing out Orin's midboss opener in stage 5 and facing the pelletspam of death in all it's unsuppressed fury(as well as missing three star pieces).
-Dying twice with three bombs in stock to Subterranean Sun.

Three Lunatics down (four counting SG), nine to go. :V Still no DBDB capture...

stargroup · « **Reply #367 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:56:26 PM »

For the first time ever I survived both waves of the fairy bs on stage 3 MoF lunatic with pacifist. The one in the beginning and the one right before the midboss. That means a perfect pacifist run on this stage is possible.

Gonna work on that now.

Schpwuette · « **Reply #368 on:** May 17, 2009, 09:08:59 PM »

o/
Just captured hanged hourai dolls twice in a row.
I'm also slowly getting better at stage 3 PCB L in general - though I still have to bomb far too much.
Alice is just so hard. Bullets going in all sorts of crazy directions.

Krimmydoodle · « **Reply #369 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:50:51 AM »

Not technically Touhou in the strictest sense, but I've been playing MegaMari a lot recently due to being inspired into making a Let's Play series of it. I've started it up with Part 1 on YouTube and, although beating Cirno's stage isn't much of an accomplishment, the series as a whole should be an accomplishment in the making, as I plan on defeating most bosses without weakness exploitation and hope to complete the video series with no deaths (although Patchy's fortress may prove difficult, since it's a one-sitting deal).

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hgt09nTC1Q&fmt=18

LtC · « **Reply #370 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:59:01 AM »

Quote from: Phar on May 09, 2009, 01:58:00 AM

I've often wondered myself what kind of setup the really good touhou players play with, but was never actually able to find any videos of it. So here's mine; maybe some people find it interesting.

I know there are a lot of really good experienced keyboard players who swap their arrow keys to left hand (AWSD mainly) so it's easier for them to swap to playing with pad or a stick when keyboard isn't available.

Vile Lasagna · « **Reply #371 on:** May 19, 2009, 12:31:52 PM »

Quote from: LtC on May 19, 2009, 11:59:01 AM

I know there are a lot of really good experienced keyboard players who swap their arrow keys to left hand (AWSD mainly) so it's easier for them to swap to playing with pad or a stick when keyboard isn't available.

I play with both pad and keyboard. Not only for Touhou but for fighting games as well (KoF, IaMP...). Right directionals all the way although I use IJKL instead if the arrow keys. Makes not much difference when you're getting a pad. Just positioning your hands and holding it makes your brain "switch modes" so there's no way you're confusing it

LHCling · « **Reply #372 on:** May 19, 2009, 12:53:12 PM »

What.

BSBS at Lunatic capture at 2 power. However, I did use the "bomb" cheat to null the first wave (read: 3 power, bombed to 2). Which actually makes it longer, because the difference in power between 2 and 3 is quite major. Wow my fingers twitched a lot.

In the same run, I game over'd on BoWaP (because I can't deal with fast, scattered bullets such as Kanako's opener). That's losing multiple lives >_>

Still researching more on BSBS theory. Looks like Flying Insect's Nest has some BS factor as well, from what I've tested. But the difference is that Flying Insect's Nest is just simply more fun to play.

My history only looks crap(per) because of clipdeath. And the abomination of the replay can be found... on my PC.

LtC · « **Reply #373 on:** May 19, 2009, 01:04:01 PM »

Quote from: VileLasagna on May 19, 2009, 12:31:52 PM

I play with both pad and keyboard. Not only for Touhou but for fighting games as well (KoF, IaMP...). Right directionals all the way although I use IJKL instead if the arrow keys. Makes not much difference when you're getting a pad. Just positioning your hands and holding it makes your brain "switch modes" so there's no way you're confusing it

Yeah I don't have any trouble with switching to playing with a gamepad either (I just use the default arrow keys), though I still prefer keyboard over gamepad anyday (Even though I know gamepads are superior to keyboards since you aren't able to press up>down instantly like left>right).
You only use your thumb for gamepad directionals. Swapping to playing with an arcade stick is a completely different story though, it's like suddenly trying to write with my left hand. It doesn't matter as much for fighting games though since the accuracy of movement required for them is quite different.

Vile Lasagna · « **Reply #374 on:** May 19, 2009, 01:17:28 PM »

With an arcade stick every hadouken is a bloody victory for me. That's how bad I am with those. But I can do pretty much everything in the keyboard and many times better than with a gamepad. I'd say they're more adequate for some games(particularly adventure games) but by no means inherently superior.

ghost333 · « **Reply #375 on:** May 19, 2009, 02:51:32 PM »

i am very used to arcade sticks . experience with Guilty gear /tekken/SC4/MB /SF/ and a lot others.
the pad on the other hand gives me an odd feeling.
keyboard is my choice.

and speaking for accomplicemnts today i reached Hourai with youmu solo on IN lunatic
just to get raped....
damn,...

Zengeku · « **Reply #376 on:** May 19, 2009, 04:32:43 PM »

I have captured Cat's Walk [Hard] twice. I don't know how the hell i manage though. The capture rate is 2/40 but the first cap came at 30 and the second at 38 so i guess i'm getting somewhere.

Azinth · « **Reply #377 on:** May 19, 2009, 05:26:12 PM »

MOTHERFUCKIN DBDB CAPTURE! I was going to yell at Baity for daring to capture my arch-nemesis card before I did, but then I tried the stage once and got it on my first try. So nvm Baity, you're still cool. It took 98 tries, which means this card is officially harder than VoWG, Resurrection Butterfly, and Scarlet Meister.

Also timed out Nuclear Reaction and Utsuho's 2nd/4th nonspells without dying. Peta Flare, Tokamak, and Subterranean Sun still elude me though.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #378 on:** May 19, 2009, 06:54:30 PM »

This was a couple days ago, but I think I may be gradually figuring out Apollo 13...maybe...sorta. I still have no freaking idea how to do the first wave, but the second one's easy for some reason. I know it more or less follows the same pattern every time, so can someone who knows how to move tell me the best opening?

Also, I got a sufficient score in 5-1 this time. After I saw what my score actually was, I deserved not getting the message (it was 97000 somehow)

LHCling · « **Reply #379 on:** May 19, 2009, 08:54:17 PM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on May 19, 2009, 06:54:30 PM

This was a couple days ago, but I think I may be gradually figuring out Apollo 13...maybe...sorta. I still have no freaking idea how to do the first wave, but the second one's easy for some reason. I know it more or less follows the same pattern every time, so can someone who knows how to move tell me the best opening?

Hmm... scrap my theory about pseudo-static for now. It feels uncertain every time the wave slightly alters. Especially when I don't even move.

Certainly looks pseudo-static (at the start...), but I feel a random factor coming in. Investigating this further...

Best way to deal with the opening at this point? Move to one of the sides and about ¹/₃ up the screen, and dodge while sliding down. Or just corner-dodge. You don't have to worry about bullets coming from diagonal directions as much, more above and to your side. I have a success rate of clearing the first wave at ~40% when I'm not screwing around with the card.

If you're really feeling professional, I would attempt to read the waves, and look where the bullets overlap in certain areas.

EDIT: the BSBS capture http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3307

Ionasal kkll Solciel · « **Reply #380 on:** May 19, 2009, 09:08:30 PM »

Yeah - there is that random rotation factor when Eirin spawns the bullets (test - run up to the bullets, and note where the closest one is. Sometimes it's in your face, sometimes it's to the left/right). However, the movement is always static - the bullets move and rotate a certain distance. That's what makes it annoying.

LHCling · « **Reply #381 on:** May 19, 2009, 09:36:14 PM »

If I'm right, it should be:

Red: aimed at your location, in relation to Eirin's (...)
Blue: randomized rotating bullets

EDIT: I believe to have finished DBDB analysis. Still BS to a degree, but also quite difficult in base. Will do test runs once I get back from lectures today (3 hours today, yay!)

ghost333 · « **Reply #382 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:23:36 PM »

usually i hunt her down for more damage and try to read the waves. replay
now if u want to time out the attack ....i could only withstand 4 waves at max(didn save replay sry)

Sodium · « **Reply #383 on:** May 19, 2009, 11:27:33 PM »

I unlocked stage 5 and 6 of SA Hard. I am now one step closer to 1ccing SA Hard now. And all the PC hard Modes. =3

LHCling · « **Reply #384 on:** May 20, 2009, 02:18:39 AM »

Quote from: SodiumPeroxide on May 19, 2009, 11:27:33 PM

I unlocked stage 5 and 6 of SA Hard. I am now one step closer to 1ccing SA Hard now. And all the PC hard Modes. =3

That reminds me. Maybe I should really get around to finishing off MoF, EoSD and SA Hard.

If I'm pulling off stunts at Lunatic with relative ease, I'm quite sure I can make sub-par 1cc's at Hard.

...lemme work on finishing off ~~BSBS~~ DBDB testing, and final analysis and testing (again). But! Food first.

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #385 on:** May 20, 2009, 02:20:46 AM »

I wish more people would do your kind of work Baity. I do so many spell cards without knowing how they really work. Granted, I'm an idiot considering how long it took me to see how Q.E.D's ripples reflect off the three walls, but still.

LHCling · « **Reply #386 on:** May 20, 2009, 02:49:50 AM »

Quote from: nintendonut888 on May 20, 2009, 02:20:46 AM

I wish more people would do your kind of work Baity. I do so many spell cards without knowing how they really work. Granted, I'm an idiot considering how long it took me to see how Q.E.D's ripples reflect off the three walls, but still.

I spend 2 hours all up (at max, min is about 30 mins) to do each card. Add another 10 minutes or so for each difficulty. Sometimes, all I get out of analyzing is... something inconclusive / already known though. Should keep looking at these "BS" cards to see if they're truly BS. And ones that do strange things.

Also, don't ask about working out ~~Q.E.D.~~ Quod Erat Demonstrandum's last phase. It's just... blah.

Test run: DBDB 2nd capture. It's quite a... straightforward card. Wall hugging trivializes the card (to a certain degree), much like Apollo 13.

EDIT: fixes

EDIT 2: hmm... might have to touch up on some parts.

EDIT 3: Ok, done with full analysis. Here's an interesting thought though; I find DBDB harder on Hard than Lunatic.

SP · « **Reply #387 on:** May 20, 2009, 12:56:26 PM »

Haven't been playing for a while, booted up the game earlier today....

Phantom of the Grand Guignol timeout

somewhere around 120 tries total, I'm not quite sure what my record was going in.

ghost333 · « **Reply #388 on:** May 20, 2009, 01:53:44 PM »

oh yea i just owned MINDBLOW lunatic very bad for the tutorial thread

i dont think i will ever have problem with this spell again...
replay

nintendonut888 · « **Reply #389 on:** May 20, 2009, 07:59:55 PM »

Biweekly opportunity to get on a school computer today. First, I did MS extra again. Nothing really great, but I did capture Alice's last phase. With Yuka. The slowest character against possibly the fastest non-timeout attack ever.

And then I showed off to my friend again. Today I was showing him how you're supposed to do EoSD stage 4 (he really sucks at it). Other than a fairy ramming me during the laser section it went well, and I beat the last part without bombing. Mostly the only real accomplishment was capturing Emerald Megalith though. :O Doing something like that while showing off is a great feeling, although he doesn't think Emerald Megalith is that hard since he plays easy mode. X_X