Also, question. Would you all prefer that I used the typical handles of each player when writing votecounts or would it better if I used their current username? I'm currently going by the first, but if that inconveniences anybody I'm willing to change my ways.
Red players are scum, you say?
##VOTE: Conqueror
There, on to Day2.
Jerky
So, you're calling out people for not showing up yet, bullshit happening on random voting and then keeping your vote on someone for the weakest reason you have to try and convict someone?Don't you EBWOP me. Does that really seem like the weakest reason to you? On a scale of being bandwagoned, actually throwing votes around, and active lurking you think active lurking is the least of reasons? Unfortunately I don't have three votes so I can't vote Zakeri, Pesco and Doll at once and must choose the one that bothers me the most until more posts or lack thereof are made.
EBWOP: And, are those last two lines of yours trying to rolefish? Because that's what it feels like.
:D All is forgiven. ##UNVOTEAnd then you're keeping your vote on him because he made two posts about him being hungry while most of us still seemed to be joking around.
Now to seize the outfit I have always dreamed of.
##VOTE WhiteMageChocobo
Conqueror, you have three votes on you because you were the last to confirm, please address this issue.
All I can say to the last few posts isI think this is the definition of cheerleading. It even comes without a wagon attached! Combined with my earlier feelings on him it feels to me like Mr.Tewi is AOK with spending Day 1 taking it easy. I intend to keep voting Zakeri until he responds but unless he does something phenomenal like roleclaim scum I intend to switch to Pesco.
Lolwut
We've got good reactions to start working with there. Carry on.
Both Zakeri and Doll's post sounded like "Me too, PS I'm here!"And what exactly about this makes me or Doll.S scum, as oppose to anything else. Just because we're divided only into teams of Mafia and not-mafia does not mean every effect seen inside the game is a result of the person being one of those two things. Sometimes, a person will say "I'm here." Simply because, for example, they are here.
I think [Pesco's statement about reactions] is the definition of cheerleading.No, It's not. I don't recall Pesco asking people to lynch you. He may be expecting people to vote you, but that's different from wanting them to lynch you.
Not Voting: Kitten4u, PolarisShouldn't I be on the not voting list too?
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are currently ~53 hours left in the day. [/color]
Dormio: For the opening hours of Day 1 I felt it was a strong enough case to stir up discussion. Out of the three I would have chosen, Pesco started it with a vote so it was possible he was merely trying to start discussion (I no longer believe this) and Doll just seems to be like that. Both Zakeri and Doll's post sounded like "Me too, PS I'm here!" I would vote Doll as a player but we're trying to find scum. I didn't vote you or PX because I didn't think you were still trying to RVS and I think less of you now. Can you explain to me why you unvoted instead of giving PX a chance to reply to your vote on him?I voted PX simply because he voted for me earlier.
Well, as Zak pointed out, what Edible is doing is a better example of cheerleading. Shadow makes a bunch of derp namedrops and it becomes a trend for people to follow in pressing the dumb leads. Thar's lazy scumhunting.
Getting an early death in on somebody who had yet to provide any useful opinions. It's sort of like lynching the person everyone wants lynched anyway, except on the opposite side of the scale, and slightly less apocalyptic in terms of information gathering.
Wasn't putting words in his mouth.
Well, as Zak pointed out, what Edible is doing is a better example of cheerleading.
Edible and Conqueror's comments on Kitten (and Polaris in the latter case) strike a little too close to opinion sniping. I'm keeping an eye on where they both take it.
I'm still voting you for what I said.
A-also I'm not insulted or anything but I'm a she.
Dormio: So your vote was a placeholder? I can understand that but your excuse for unvoting isn't a good one from my perspective. I would appreciate it if you voted someone sooner then later.Wait.
##Link Edible
No one really, it's still early in D1 and I have no idea what's happening with Pesco and Edible.
WHO DO YOU THINK IS SCUM?
You don't want people voting randomly, yet you want me to keep my random vote?I'm saying I think having a vote on someone is better then not voting anyone at all. I think you should put your vote on whoever you think is scummiest now that discussion has taken off. LAL is Lynch All Lurkers.
Doll-
Do not ignore questions.
You ignored questions before when you were scum, and you are doing it now. I want words. Good words.
I have escaped just long enough to read over thisheadachethread and I still want to ##VOTE Pesco. I also want to ##Unlimited Dayvig Doll but I don't appear to be that rule. Even if you are correct Doll don't answer for other people. Also, perhaps you could add your own opinion to the thread.
Dormio: So your vote was a placeholder? I can understand that but your excuse for unvoting isn't a good one from my perspective. I would appreciate it if you voted someone sooner then later.
Warning - while you were typing 2 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Doll posted! And yet my statement still stands. WHO DO YOU THINK IS SCUM?
No one really, it's still early in D1 and I have no idea what's happening with Pesco and Edible.
........Dormio, you kinda sound like me on my first Mafia game, which is kinda weird.
Anyway, nothing really solid has come up yet except that apparently Pesco's scum, but I'll hold my vote for now.
Meanwhile, Dormio's stance on Shadoweh strikes me as very wishy washy. He seems to be pressuring Shadoweh in his posts, but then leaves his vote hanging in the air. Then he says he doesn't think Shadoweh is scum (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg564855.html#msg564855), but in the same post he says: wait, maybe she is scum, which gives us no useful information on his stance! Could you please elaborate on the matter? Why do you or do you not think Shadoweh is scum?I should have phrased that post a lot better.
Also, DotA > DotS. :VNo. Get out. :flamingv:
Shadow-
#51: Asks an opinion from Bard on Pesco's post. This achieves nothing. Asking opinions on "lolwut" is not scumhunting and will not benefit town now or ever.
#56: Calls his posts a "test run" and over analyzes Pesco waaaaaay too much with no evidence. Gives me the impression of mudslinging.
#58: Expects people to show up in a few hours, willing to be patient. This directly contradicts her #42, where she calls out K4U, wanting her to post soon. I'm personally not a fan of these kinds of contradictions.
#70: Wants more opinions on jokevotes. =[
And keeps her vote right where it is. Really? There's no one scummier after all this? Have your opinions not changed yet?
Shadow, how much previous experience do you have with Mafia?
I think you should put your vote on whoever you think is scummiest now that discussion has taken off.##Vote Pesco
Hey PX what's wrong, didn't want to keep any votes on Dormio for too long? He didn't seem to like that, is it still an OMGUS if you wait for the second someone unvotes you to vote them?Are you taunting me? I don't like that. Also, this entire line doesn't make sense. Neither does the next one. Vote on Zakeri obviously sucks. Also, I'm pretty sure lynching the rule doesn't remove the ruuuuuuuru outright from the game.
#56: Calls his posts a "test run" and over analyzes Pesco waaaaaay too much with no evidence. Gives me the impression of mudslinging.I don't see that. At all.
#70: Wants more opinions on jokevotes. =[I have no idea where you are seeing this.
Dormio: I'm finding that I agree almost completely with Bardiches 88 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg564905.html#msg564905) and Conqueror's 98. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg565143.html#msg565143) You have taken a passive aggressive stance towards most of what has been put out today and to try to fix that, you decide your game plan is Lynch all Lurkers, which hasn't really got to that stage of the game yet, being only the first 24 hours of day one and people can still have a reason for not showing up at this point. Day 2 I can understand but coupled with your wishywashyness on Shadoweh; not good. You randomly don't think he's scum because...what? Why does she get a clear, in your eyes? Then he comes up with the vote on Pesco, which is starting to form an opinion on people, but can we get some more of what you think of anyone else?No, my game plan is not Lynch all Lurkers.
K4U please exist that would be great. If you lurk as much during this game as the last one I will make it my personal mission to lynch you by Day 2. That goes for all you lurkscum.I typically only post about three times D1 regardless of alignment. I typically don't have much to say until D2 and I see little point in clogging the thread with useless junk that'll just make rereading later painful. I also do not understand why you think LAL is a valid tactic D1 (it doesn't work like that). I'm just going to chalk this up to being a new player though.
#51: Asks an opinion from Bard on Pesco's post. This achieves nothing. Asking opinions on "lolwut" is not scumhunting and will not benefit town now or ever.
#58: Expects people to show up in a few hours, willing to be patient. This directly contradicts her #42, where she calls out K4U, wanting her to post soon. I'm personally not a fan of these kinds of contradictions.Considering she just tried way too hard to pull us out of RVS I do not see how continuing to try way too hard to generate discussion is a scummy thing. Explain please?
At least you're reading my posts. Truth be told I wasn't sure how well this would work or how observant other players are here. Call it a test run. However if you were really just watching me for that reason then I would appreciate it if you posted something of content now. You obviously read what I think of your behaviour at this moment and I think you're doing it on purpose.
Calls his posts a "test run" and over analyzes Pesco waaaaaay too much with no evidence. Gives me the impression of mudslinging.
Wants more opinions on jokevotes. =[
"I was more hoping you would comment on what you think of multiple people voting you for it."
I've read the past games with you in them and...Well I think you should actually like play the game this time.We all just have feelings from posts to go on from Day 1. Try expressing your feeling and explaining them, like why Dormio reminds you of you since you brought it up twice. Your post #108 is much better then your other ones.
You randomly don't think she's((Shadoweh)) scum because...what? Why does she get a clear, in your eyes? Then he comes up with the vote on Pesco, which is starting to form an opinion on people, but can we get some more of what you think of anyone else?Why are you hunting for Town? We're looking for scum, not for who you think is the Townest and making people explain why they think people are Towner then the rest just sets up easy Nightkills.
You guys can call it ignoring the accusation, but I consider any more arguing with Edible to be dead-ended. Nobody else wants to buy lynching him, so I might as well make him my waifu with my ability.
Your question about my ability had a :V after it. Since when do you expect me to take that as a serious asking?
I make you my waifu. We get to spend our nights together. What happens to me will happen to you and vice versa.
Should the day carry on without input from Polaris and/or Kitten, I would consider it more scummy.
Doll: Yes vig mean vigilantly kill. No I am not asking someone to vig you. If you were vigged right now besides your flip I don't think anyone would notice the difference and this is the frustration I am expressing. K4U sums it up.We all just have feelings from posts to go on from Day 1. Try expressing your feeling and explaining them, like why Dormio reminds you of you since you brought it up twice. Your post #108 is much better then your other ones.
I make you my waifu. We get to spend our nights together. What happens to me will happen to you and vice versa.
(http://i53.tinypic.com/b8l35d.gif)
it maybe that he has the ability to form couples?Pesco said that his ability is to form a bond between him and someone else.
In all seriousness, I'd like to request the mod elucidate the situation with Polaris. Is he going to play, has he been prodded, will you replace or what? It's very annoying to have another lurker on our hands, especially considering it's a waste of town's lynch if we need to manually remove non-players.In hindsight, I probably made rule 12 way too easy on lurkers.
Re-reading through, Shadoweh, you still haven't answered why you pressed Conqueror for the bandwagon he got on RVS phase and then just decided drop it without answering it.My original statement in post #42 was intended be read as 'please tell me what you think of three people "randomly" choosing to jokevote you for a bad reason.' Conqueror's response in post #61 answered 'please tell me why you confirmed late.' and failed to address the 18 post argument. My first two sentences in post #70 were me saying 'That's not what I was asking but feel free to post on everything else.' The jokevote wagon stopped being important the minute people started posting content and I stopped caring about it by post #43.
I dislike how few names there are in 12 hours.The gap between the prod and the replacement was not 12 hours, if that's what you are thinking - Polaris told me that he does not feel up to playing and that he is okay would being replaced, so I opened up his player slot early.
#70: I fully intented to vote in that post on my way out. I was ninja'd by a mountain of posts including Pesco posting an opinion so I put off voting until I could come back in an hour to read it. I did so and voted him in post #91 which I had posted by the time you wrote this so I'm not sure why you skipped that one since it answers your question.
Considering she just tried way too hard to pull us out of RVS I do not see how continuing to try way too hard to generate discussion is a scummy thing. Explain please?The idea is not scummy, the execution however was scummy. But with that, I consider it a new player mistake. Also, her recent posts have seemed productive and hunting-like to me, so she goes down on my list.
(who uses wordpad seriously)I do.
I express some mild dissatisfaction with PX's defence of Shadoweh, however, as I feel players are well capable of defending themselves in their times of need. Further dissatisfaction arises from the accusation re: Pesco voting by "using Zak's words", whereas Pesco's case was, almost literally, "As Zak pointed out, Edible is a worse cheerleader". And while Zak did not point out any such thing, it looks like Pesco's own observation that Edible is cheerleading.
Never bother that I wholly disagree with Pesco and his stint with Edible, but the misrepresentation combined with a vote is flawed enough to cause my alarmbells to go off. Exactly how does Pesco's observation that "Edible is cheerleading" fall apart if Zakeri did not point this out at all, but it was merely something Pesco diagnosed himself?
For all that I find Pesco's case shoddy, the blatant bandwagon hop seems more egregious. Pesco being nonsensical is nothing out of the ordinary, so I will require further content from him to decide that he is now scummy for an erroneous observation. It was too poor to conceivably be of worth.
##UNVOTE
##VOTE: PX
Exactly how does Pesco's observation that "Edible is cheerleading" fall apart if Zakeri did not point this out at all, but it was merely something Pesco diagnosed himself?
Has Doll.S always been this useless?Yes.
Fact #3: Edible is a retard.
Scenario #3: Scum kills you instead since I'm lynchable.
Scenario #4: You're scum and I'm taking you down with me.
I don't see why you're obvtown by any measure for presenting a false dichotomy.
As much as I hate to shoot down the person arguing for my favorite lynch, that post of yours doesn't really show scum suspicions of anyone but Pesco. You say Doll is useless and Kitten made a good post and that the PX wagon 'interests you'.
"Potential lynch" and "potential scum" are synonymous in my vernacular, as they should be in anyone's who plays mafia.Noted. What do you think of the Hourai vs PX talk earlier?
Noted. What do you think of the Hourai vs PX talk earlier?
Yes.
Initial thought re: Edible. That only holds ground if we assume you are Town and, from that assumption, are willing to lynch Pesco immediately. We could also lynch you immediately and it'd also "free" Pesco, but it is no guarantee of alignment regardless.
Edible's comment on K4U does not look like cheerleading. He's not egging on a wagon since nobody has any votes on K4U. Thus, his case is pretty much non-existent. Is that satisfactory?
Pesco: You still suck. Doing nothing, and then trying to use Zak's words to push your vote, then avoiding it completely when it was proved Zak's words were not intended that way.
Schezo: :/ I liked you better when you were voting for me. Are you going to be here for the deadline? Regardless I'm going to ask this quickly. If you think Edible is right about Pesco and his role then why are you voting for someone besides Pesco considering if Edible is right he needs to be lynched today?Quote me, I said I was leaning towards Edible's side. I didn't say I for sure bought Edible's case because as Bard pointed out it's a bit WIFOM and I still don't have a for sure opinion as to say I want Pesco dead or not.
If he's town and pesco and I die tonight I'm going to ban all of you. :toot:I tried, can I get off with a probation?
I don't believe Pesco's roleclaim, and I believe he would be a good lynch candidate. Why would he link up to the person he thinks is scum? If Edible was scum and you two turned into siblings, then you'd effectively become anti-town.
EBWOP:1. In most normal cases, I probably would have chosen to end it soon after getting it all night actions even past the 24 hour mark, but having a player up for replacement made me extend it for time (though I still don't seem to be having much luck on that <_<). The phases will hopefully be quicker in the future, provided the players are equally fast when it comes to sending in their PMs.
@Mod - 1, can we have the night cycle be closer to the 24-hour mark instead of the 48-hour mark? ;_;
And - 2, you say we won't get an end-of-day votecount, but will we still get regular votecounts?
##vote hanged hourai
Hanged Hourai (1) - ????????
I demand that every single player place a vote in their first post of the day. Anyone who does not have their vote on the table AT ALL TIMES should be instantly considered as scum.Quoted for emphasis. We get our strongest weapon twice, we must spill the blood of our scum oppressors!
The townie riot ability is a boon if managed carefully.
Edible can confirm that it is in effect now.
i gave you a chance to see where you were going with falsely claiming to link yourself to tasty man.Is that what you're calling it now?
i targeted you last night and i know you were lying. my role is easy to prove because i know what happens when you die. if we lynch rabbit face we gain the ability to send private messages to each other anonymously through the moderator. sadly the only way to prove my role is for bunny to die. i would really like to prove my role.So to prove your innocence you want to kill a someone who may be town to give scum one more day? Gotcha.
my role is easy to prove because i know what happens when you die. if we lynch rabbit face we gain the ability to send private messages to each other anonymously through the moderator. sadly the only way to prove my role is for bunny to die. i would really like to prove my role.
EDIBLE WHERE'S MY SAMMICH YOU WHORE? :V
Shadoweh claiming vig yesterday was obviously a joke. Not sure why anyone took it seriously.It wasn't even that. She said she wanted to dayvig but couldn't. It was an anti-claim or something.
to tasty man i say that it is not the information my role got that leads me to suspect rabbit face of being on the red colored team. it is the fact that targetting him also targetted another player and that player was not you.
EBWOP: Specifically how do you know who is anon voting? That's a pretty impressive power suite there.....
But I highly doubt that such specific details would have been sent in the PM, especially with the "twist" in play.Er, rather, I don't think that the PM would have said anything to suggest that whatever he did would have affected Pesco too since all the actions were switched around.
The conjecture that the anonyvote belongs to Hourai ignores that any of those who haven't voted yet placed that vote on Pesco and have refrained from posting.I'm voting Hourai because I think he's lying in his roleclaim.
On matters related to what happened tonight, let me get this straight.orz.
Pesco targeted Edible, but his ability wound up hitting me.
Hourai targeted Edible, but his ability wound up hitting me.
Shadoweh targeted Pesco, and his ability also wound up hitting me.
This is all consistent with Pesco's claim that whatever will occur to him will also occur to me, and so far everyone's claims check out. Including Hourai's.
Bardiche : I ask because Edible claimed he received an item. I was hoping you knew something about it. I guess it is possible some other friend gave him the item and both of you the swap.
i do not know what will happen if i break the restriction other then it will cause something bad to happen for the town.
Yeah Dormio's at least trying in a much more transparent way. Sticking with my vote change.Half-hearted attempt at self-reassuring that his vote belongs where it is. Pesco seems very insecure this round.
Vote on Hourai in #150 came out of almost nowhereNo it didn't. Rereading PX's posts, Hourai was his second target. There's nothing wrong with questioning a second target, as oppose to tunneling your first.
##Vote: Doll S.:*Finally, Someone who speaks sen-
Ok, can we get this out of the way now? I mean obvious active lurking, and not having an opinion or a vote when the day ends. No.
If you knew people were going to fall on top of you for [anonymous voting], why are you pushing it just to see how far it goes?:fail:
Unvote:
Vote: Shadoweh
Oh well, all of myI knew that sounded weird when I typed that line, but I couldn't figure out what the grammar was suppose to be until after I posted it.bestposts are made when I'm sleep deprived.
@Bardiche: Alas, I can't directly quote the PM.
In summary, the person who sent it basically said "stop being a jerk" in more words. O_o;
Also, they threatened to off somebody should you not comply.
I have no desire to lynch hourai, shadoweh, or bardiche today. We can probably all agree that Doll is on the to-lynch list. The primary lynch looks like it'll be pesco or schezo. I'll need to do some research on schezo.
No it didn't. Rereading PX's posts, Hourai was his second target. There's nothing wrong with questioning a second target, as oppose to tunneling your first.
Con's vote on PX seems like a bandwagon hop here.
Also of note, the only one who voted for K4u on top of being on the bandwagon. I already explained yesterday why I didn't like this. K4u's flip only enhances this.
Also, if anyone wants to get a free pass from me tomorrow, I promise to ignore anyone who just happens to leave their vote on Doll.S for the rest of the day.
A post-game discussion on what consists of a good D1 lynch and what doesn't is in order.
Schezo's case on Shadoweh is bad, and he should feel guilty for considering it over Doll.SNow I feel like a real douche after I find out this is Shadowehs first game. I was really excited with my first Mafia game so I can see where the curiosity to do powers, Nk's and game effects comes into this. I'm sorry for trying to pull this on you but the other stuff (the role claiming craziness) still stands, though it's not enough to vote you right now.
I mean, really, this is her first game (it is, right?), what would you expect her reaction to anonymous voting would be besides "Oh neat, I wonder how this works!" It's not like the topic even comes up in that many games, either.
Dormio: Good God. Your case On Hourai is that he didn't lay a vote on the table (although that does make me mad) the anon could easily been lurkscum or you in fact and you PMed an unvote since it's gone now.What? My vote is still on Hourai.
Doll.S: ... Is that a random vote?
Secondly, he claims to have a oneshot protection ability in a game where everybody has an ability. If it really is oneshot, it would be pretty crappy if it didn't block everything. And why would you use such an ability on the first night?
Hourai: If I am to take Pesco's 278 at face value then the vote should obviously be on Hourai because since I'm town I have nothing to kill kitten for. But it's not. Pesco hasn't done much scum hunting and like Zakeri said his post about Dormio, it was just more self assurance on what could be a BS vote.Uh, I'm having trouble understanding this. The ideas kinda blend together. Re-explain pl0x?
Otherwise you miss things like Hourai's role not really being oneshot, and Pesco not multilinking.Crap. I think I need to take a break and sleep for a day. Uni shit is getting to me. 1 hour travel times doesn't help either.
I see no real opinions from his side, other than implied ones if you read between lines.
Voted PX for the wagon hop on Pesco.You jumped onto a bandwagon, and rode it out to it's lynch. You never bothered adding reasoning or justification for keeping your vote then other than the post you voted him for. Even where you bring up the case against him, all you simply do is requote that same post.
Reasoning for the vote never evolves as more info is added.
Provides light opinions on Dormio, Jabs at Doll.S (doesn't switch votes.)Again, you never really consider anyone else up to vote. You seemed content to leave your vote hanging comfortably on PX while telling Dormio and Doll.S how bad they are. It's the kind of lazy scumhunting that's indistinguishable from scum prettying to put effort into this.
"Between Pesco and Edible, I choose PX."
My favorite part is when instead of providing Wagon analysis, or personal opinions during the nightphase like a person who believes they can be killed during the night, and wishes to help town would do, he just attempts to wave a baton and conduct the midnight symphony orchestra.The main point here is as I pointed out in the middle of the sentence. Your midnight post is suspicious because instead of doing what a person that has fear of being Nightkilled (i.e. a townie) would do, and posting something that would help the town (i.e. wagon analysis) you instead decide to create mass WiFoM and confusion amongst that night actions, of which a few who inherently know more about the set up than a regular townie (i.e. Mafia) could use to their advantage.
The other scummy behaviours were nowhere near telling enough to be immediately lynch-worthy.And PX's was that much better?
at the end of D1, you stated that you thought Doll was the scummiest person around. What changed since then and now that you have not mentioned a word of Doll?
Schezo-Uh, I'm having trouble understanding this. The ideas kinda blend together. Re-explain pl0x?orz
Also, it's Zakeri, not Zakurei.Hakurei :3
I don't really like how you're telling people to vote for Doll.S, yet you're keeping your vote on Bardiche.I have two people I want lynched (Well, three, but I'll get to Conqueror tomorrow if it's still relevant), and we get two lynches today. I'll change my vote as needed to make sure Bard and Doll are the top two.
If you're going to tell people to vote for someone, shouldn't you lead by example?
I really don't have a really good reason for this,
No not really, I just can't explain my reason cause I'm not good at those type of things.Which is it?
Cut by Pesco speculating NK.
Of course we know how well that worked last time, right? >_>
Hourai: If I am to take Pesco's 278 at face value then the vote should obviously be on Hourai because since I'm town I have nothing to kill kitten for. But it's not. Pesco hasn't done much scum hunting and like Zakeri said his post about Dormio, it was just more self assurance on what could be a BS vote.
Pesco-
I'm a little confused at your NK analysis. If you think Schezo is more likely to be scum than me, then why isn't your vote on him?
Here we go, I was going off memory when I said the protect successfully went up on Edible.
Upon a reread, I now see that I was only informed the my protect did go up on someone, along with one on Pesco.
if we are going to speculate on the night kill then i believe rabbit face would kill his adorable blue feline because rabbit face targets experienced players before considering roles.
You see this is why I think your claim is questionable. Why was your primary target not named and yet you are told that the bonus target was specifically me? The results are inconsistent.Blame the mod. I was told what I was told.
Night 1 :
Someone, somehow, switches Edible and Bard. Pesco is now linked to Bard and everything at night happens to the opposite guy.
Bards threat gets sent to Edible, Hourai's doc gets sent to Bard. Pesco is linked to Bard and is thus protected.
You target Pesco. Pesco is protected.
Day 1 : Pesco Links EdibleSchezo claims responsibility for starting the riot today.
Night 1 :
Someone, somehow, switches Edible and Bard. Pesco is now linked to Bard and everything at night happens to the opposite guy.
Bards threat gets sent to Edible, Hourai's doc gets sent to Bard. Pesco is linked to Bard and is thus protected.
You target Pesco. Pesco is protected.
It wreaks too much of "Day one reasoning" in the fact that the validity of it is based entirely on flips we don't even have
I have no reason to kill Kitten because I'm town duo vote leader
It's not as hard as you make it out to be to make out what his convictions are and what he thinks of everyone else, so I'll make an opinion on you when you answer Zak.
One more post before I sleep. I am going to channel UncertainKitten(?) to help me explain why I do not like any post Schezo has made. I apologize in advance. Please at least read the bolded lines.
#43 is our first interaction and he votes for me. He then asks if I am fishing for roles by asking people to think about the setup. I hope I do not have to explain why starting by voting for me gave me a bad first impression.
#104 is thoughts on the players. Waffles on what he thinks about Edible and Pesco. He said that he let me go with something he said earlier. Since there is no post between 43 and 104, I have no idea what this means. Anyways he tries to use the argument Hourai used in 90 that I am trying too hard to read people and am bad for being patient. Also he tries to use the argument Bard had about the joke vote wagon against me. He then has this weird paragraph filled with waffles about how I am almost not suspicious but Hourai is bad for suspecting me and maybe Doll.S is actively lurking which is bad, but Hourai could be setting him up but he really is not contributing. Opinion of Dormio is blatantly a parrot of Bard and Conqueror complete with links to posts. Seriously this post is a well constructed combination of waffling and the opinions of other players.
106 clarifies why he does not want to run after the adorable blue feline and the cardboard cutout player despite saying a post ago that I should be going after them instead of someone that already posted.
109 is Schezo misrepresenting PX defending me from Hourai. I cannot make an opinion on this post that is not biased because the argument is about me. I suggest reading the post to see if you also believe it is misrepresentation.
128 is a response to my question about why Schezo wants to know who Dormio thinks is town. This is actually a good defense and lowered my suspicion of Schezo until his next post.
181 is where he votes for PX. I was counting votes and people who were present at the deadline and his vote sealed the lynch. Says he believes Edible over Pesco. I question him about this later so I will wait to say more about this waffle. He says I drop alot and he can kinda see some town in my posts. If you waffle any harder you will levitate. His next point is that Doll.S is making him frustrated and he needs to die today if not tomorrow. Considering his vote and that there are not enough people online to change the lynch to Doll.S, this reads like Schezo is trying to set up a lynch for tomorrow. Makes an unconvincing argument for why he is voting PX and votes.
189 is an answer to me asking why he is not voting for Pesco if he thinks Edible is correct. Answer is that he was only leaning and did not have a solid opinion because of something Bard said and he is not for sure that he wants Pesco to die. This entire post screams the words I do not want to pick a side.
This is where day two begins.
211 is a vote on the Doll.S. He posts some dislike of Hourai and wants me to go over my full case on Pesco. Says I never stated an opinion on Pesco. I have in 51 and 70 stated I think Pesco was taking it easy and dodging questions instead of doing anything useful. That my argument still applies to Pesco the next day is bad for him but this post is about Schezo.
213 is more dislike of how I did not follow Edible to the letter about anonymous voting. Wants to hear exactly how useless I thought Pesco was day one. Not notable to me.
221 is about how terrible ignoring what Edible said about anonymous voting is and a vote for me while I argue with Pesco about targeting. Every time I post, I get the feeling you wait for me to say something perceived as not being town so you can push it relentlessly. His paragraph to Iced Fairy is hard to read because it sounds like rambling. It certainly does not give a solid opinion about anything.
225 is support for Pesco against me in the argument we were having about targeting.
228 is more support and being upset with me for claiming my role against Pesco. He says he does not understand why I claimed my role so easily. He is also misrepresenting what I said but this is likely because I was hard to understand. Also restates that town needs to hammer before 48 hours pass which was my argument in the first place so I have no idea why he would listen to me if he really thought I was scum.
285 is about claiming the role of riot leader. The reasoning for using the power given by your role is a good reason. The reasoning for how there is no possibility that Schezo is not scum with this role is not true. The possibility that scum believes they can skip a day by activating this role exists. Roles also tend to be assigned randomly so the idea that because a role sounds inherently like a town role makes that person town does not hold up to examination. Schezo decides to back away from me because i am new, but after rereading his posts I still believe that oh my god he sucks.
Schezo, does your opinion of Dormio change knowing that he is also a new player? He said so when he signed up for this game.
There is another post after this one, but I have not had a chance to compare it to others so for now I am skipping 297.
If this was too long and you did not read it look here.
My case is the opposite of what Bard argued in 258. Schezo was terrible day one and I feel bad now for not having realized what exactly was wrong with his posts. 104 managed to be large and comment on many people and say absolutely nothing original. He has been tunneling against me since my first post. He went out of his way to set up Doll.S as a lynch today just before day one ended. His opinion of Pesco and Edible is that he could go either way. There are so many things wrong with all his posts combined that I cannot continue to think that I am just reacting to being attacked.
How does anyone post more then one of these a game? I am never making a post using this method again. Good night.
A promise to give someone a free pass for lynching what you think is definite scum is a decidedly strange - especially since you request to "just leave the vote there", rather than voting Doll for scumminess.I'm having a lot of trouble trying to determine if that arguing semantics line is in reference to something I said, or if you're trying to lampshade the fact that your accusation in the quoted point above is based solely on the semantics of my request for a Doll.S lynch.
Arguing semantics is cute, but not really applicable.
Zakeri confused me when he went from saying Hourai was the most likely of the day one wagons to be scum in post 195 to saying his vote flowed naturally and Hourai was getting a pass in post 271. If it was so natural why did you vote for him?
post four three is our first interaction and he votes for me. he then asks if i am fishing for roles by asking people to think about the setup. i hope i do not have to explain why starting by voting for me gave me a bad first impression.I actually want you to because that means to me that you could be holding onto me being one of the few who got onto you and it could be clouding your judgment.
post one zero four is thoughts on the players. waffles on what he thinks about tasty man and rabbit face. he said that he let me go with something he said earlier. since there is no post between four three and one zero four i have no idea what this means. anyways he tries to use the argument red doll boy used in post nine zero that i am trying too hard to read people and bad for being patient. also he tries to use the argument night lurker had about the joke vote wagon against me. he then has this weird paragraph filled with waffles about how i am almost not suspicious but red doll boy is bad for suspecting me and maybe the adorable artificer of automatons is actively lurking which is bad but red doll boy could be setting him up but he really is not contributing. opinion of koumajou densetsu fox is blatantly a parrot of night lurker and takeover king complete with links to posts. seriously this post is a well constructed combination of waffling and the opinions of other players.When you accuse me of twisting your information, don't do the same to me. At that point, the only thing that happened to Pesco/Edible was their initial argument at the very beginning. I had no idea what to think of them at that point and it's instantly a waffle when either could have been lying at that point. Please define what you think waffle is. The attempt to convict you that you say was a legitimate concern because we hadn't heard from multiple people at that point and you kept egging on a vig/drastic measures. I admit, I could have worded that post better but you're taking stuff out of context. You want to call me out on blatant parroting, when I left quotes of the people who brought up the points not claiming them as my own but as good thinking points, yet you take Kitten's 160 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg566487.html#msg566487)and call me out for exactly what you're doing right now except without the link to the author. And what, your last point, you don't want me to give opinions on other people? How does that make sense?
post one eight one is where he votes for the waffle buster. i was counting votes and people who were present at the deadline and his vote sealed the lynch. says he believes tasty man over rabbit face. i question him about this later so i will wait to say more about this waffle. he says i drop alot and he can kinda see some town in my posts. if you waffle any harder you will levitate. his next point is that the cute crafter of cutouts is making him frustrated and he needs to die today if not tomorrow. considering his vote and that there are not enough people online to change the lynch to the cute crafter of cutouts this reads like crown boy is trying to set up a lynch for tomorrow. makes an unconvincing argument for why he is voting waffle buster and votes.No shit I was setting Doll up for a lunch because at that point I knew I was using my power and he would be part of my duo lynch.
post one eight nine is an answer to me asking why he is not voting for rabbit face if he thinks tasty man is correct. answer is that he was only leaning and did not have a solid opinion because of something night lurker said and he is not for sure that he wants rabbit face to die. this entire post screams the words i do not want to pick a side.This is silly. Once again you're trying to take a point out on me for not instantly believing Edible like you did and I look bad for it? There was not near enough information at that time for me to choose one or the other and you want to hold it against me for not playing like you do.
also restates that town needs to hammer before fourty eight hours pass which was my argument in the first place so i have no idea why he would listen to me if he really thought i was on the red colored team.Just because one is scum doesn't mean they can put out some valid points. I don't like this.
post two eight five is about claiming the role of riot leader. the reasoning for using the power given by your role is a good reason. the reasoning for how there is no possibility that crown boy is not on the red colored team with this role is not true. the possibility that the red colored team believes they can skip a day by activating this role exists. roles also tend to be assigned randomly so the idea that because a role sounds inherently like a town role makes that person town does not hold up to examination. crown boy decides to back away from me because i am new but after rereading his posts i still believe that oh my god he sucks.I don't see the post restriction that someone put on you being a pro town role if you know what I mean. While roles can be assigned randomly , things like roleblocker tend to be more scum affiliated. I'll give you that it doesn't hold up, but I don't see scum wanting to end the game sooner by giving town more votes. Having town maybe waste a day on Doll seems like a much better way to go about it because then they would get two nightkills for two lynches instead of 2 nightkills for 3 lynches.
crown boy does your opinion of the fox change knowing that he is also a new player? he said so when he signed up for this game.Don't ask me loaded questions. There is a clear difference between me giving you a slight clear for being new and trying some features out and generally playing bad. This is my third game on this board and so far I was scum twice so there's no reason for me to not put Dormio under the ringer like everyone else just because he is new, especially when he's been playing bad.
post one zero four managed to be large and comment on many people and say absolutely nothing originalIs a bold faced lie. There are unique opinions on what I think in there.
he went out of his way to set up the cute crafter of cutouts as a lynch today just before day one ended.I already answered this but again, I knew I was using my power today and getting rid of a lurker earlier on, (which still hasn't posted anything) is helpful to town I thought so I don't see the problem with me setting it up early.
there are so many things wrong with all his posts combined that i cannot continue to think that i am just reacting to being attacked.
Nightphase conjecture is based on a flawed assumption, and the idea that my words were aimed at town during nightphase. I see no further reason to need to justify what I did during the night because it is nothing more than meaningless conjecture based on flawed assumptions.is dodging the comment on how he did nothing town proactive with his night power when he easily could and should have.
:V Are you seriously going to argue "I'm town so I have no reason to kill people"? Although the role is beneficial to town, this is bastard moddery, and scum wielding a pro-town weapon is not at all outside the realm of possibilities.I haven't seen bastard mod yet, I've seen rolemadness but I guess I take it that it's possible.
My point is that you have to interpret that yourself for the most part. He posts a wall of reports on what happened, and then uses three to four words to make a throw away comment that "x is suspicious". It's like throwing a bunch of paper on the table, saying, "The evidence speaks for itself! I am right!" without explaining HOW this evidence supports your claim, or why you are right. Zakeri has dug up my D1 actions, but he failed to explain why these are suspicious.I guess because I got all the evidence that he brought up when I first read it without thinking about why is why I feel bad about you. It did in fact speak for itself when I read it and I'm pretty sure it does for others as well.
Justify why you are giving Hourai, Shadoweh, and Bardiche a pass, seeing as I haven't seen you give any substantial opinions on them. Or link me to the post where you did. This statement reeks of passivity, and I don't like it.
Conqueror, please when you make a post like that, just delete the comments on everyone who you end up typing "I'll look over later."Oh, that's just so I don't forget to look at them later on. :3
(Well, three, but I'll get to Conqueror tomorrow if it's still relevant)Well, there's no reason for you not to bring up your case on me today. Could you elaborate on your point in #271?
Edible: Bottom of the post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg569549.html#msg569549).
Justify why you are giving Hourai, Shadoweh, and Bardiche a pass, seeing as I haven't seen you give any substantial opinions on them. Or link me to the post where you did. This statement reeks of passivity, and I don't like it.
Also I suck...need to get better...
EBWOP: Clarification. Doll S. is looking to be today's primary lynch. As I previously noted, I would be willing to switch to Doll S. to secure his lynch, or switch to Pesco as secondary. Of course I could also stay on Dormio, as I find him the most scummy, but no one seems to be looking in his direction.Dormio's lynch doesn't seem to be happening today because people aren't showing up and we're going into the last 24 hours. Agh.
Doll.S (4) - Schezo, Dormio, Kellogg's? Eggo? Waffles, Edible, Conqueror, Shadoweh
With 11 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. There are currently ~25 hours left in the day. [/color]
Doll is at L-2!
post one zero six clarifies why he does not want to run after the adorable blue feline and the cardboard cutout player despite saying a post ago that i should be going after them instead of someone that already posted.
uhIs this a comment on the votecount?
... I think I might have forgotten to fix the number after D1 ended.
Ah well. It's too late to go back and change it, considering the current scenario.
ignoring how insane doing that was how would that have gotten rabbit face lynched since the only way the waffle would matter right now is if best outfit ever voted for moe maker of muppets.Pesco (2.5) - Edible, ????????, Iced Fairy, Shadoweh, Doll.S, Schezo, Kellogg's? Eggo? Waffles
can someone ask for another vote counting
Also, mod, with 11 left, it takes 7 to lynch? Is that part of the day effect?
I should probably save this for post-game, but playing coy about it isn't really my style.
but the way Bardiche tried to hammer Doll and Pesco sorta clears Pesco?
Doll- Roleclaim.Well, I get to choose between two abilities after I die.
Intentional WIFOM. I'd ignore it.Also he couldn't hammer Dolls and Schezo.
(Also, the lynch isn't random)
A post-game discussion on what consists of a good D1 lynch and what doesn't is in order.
Bardiche:Schezo- Claiming emotions got the better of him.Why would you single out PX for defending Shadoweh when Edible and I also said that we thought that Shadoweh's behavior didn't seem scum-like?u dedz
Pesco:OMGUS in a serious vote?u dedz two
Hanged Hourai: People are constantly changing their thoughts and there was some Pesco x Edible action going on between PX's votes. Are you saying that the game should be held in stasis while you aren't there?
Schezo: Why did PX seem more scummy to you? Neither of them provided opinions on others during their exchange, which was the final point in your argument against PX. (PX asks Hourai to provide opinions without doing so himself first, neither of them ended up doing it)
Doll.S, Edible and I were the only ones that weren't on the Bard wagon when Bard self hammered.Oh, Pesco too but Pesco isn't going to vote for himself now, is he?
Night 2: Welp, Zakeri died.Basing that off this post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg569750.html#msg569750).
I'm not sure what to make of this right now other than his suspicions seemed to mainly be on Hourai/Conqueror.
Zakeri, playing Rule 7, Townie Ranting Doublevoter, has been killed overnight! His death triggered the Double Check day effect.
So basically, in the lynch, for Pesco to have been lynched along with Bard either Edible or I had to have unvoted and voted Pesco anonymously.
1) When Bard hammered, everyone with a vote on them had one vote (as far as I can tell, per the last votecount). Per the game rules, tiebreaks for the townie riot were determined by the first person with that total. I'm guessing that's why pesco was lynched.True that. Hmm.
2) Bard targeted me with his scum ability night 1. What do you suppose that makes me?Bard's swap doesn't exactly cripple you or anything, that argument doesn't seem all that strong to me.
cold pixie + so yesterday your entire contribution was wanting to lynch god rabbit of psychic power.And, you know, pointing out Bardiche as scum too. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg569910.html#msg569910) Not to mention the other bits of scumhunting earlier. You're good when you catch the facts, but you need to pay more attention to details. Like say, Bardiche's kill thing being the next day's lynch instead of that day's. I'm very glad you were wrong there, otherwise I'd still think Pesco was scum.
Dormio. Runs in, tells us what happened again to flesh out a post, drops a vote, runs away. We need scumhunting.It was 1am and I had been yelling at Pesco, Hele, Trance and Infinity for the past two hours. D:
Do you have any other reasons why Edible is scum here, or are you going just off a role name?Evidently, I'm a retard that forgets how things work too quickly.
Bard's swap doesn't exactly cripple you or anything, that argument doesn't seem all that strong to me.
Who did you twist? Town doesn't need to go running in circles because of misdirected roles.
Not an argument, just a logical statement to make. I call to your attention this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg567305.html#msg567305), in which Bard outright asks all night roles to target me/pesco, including potential investigative roles. Why in the world would he want someone to investigate me, were I fellow scum?Because he used his twist virus on you, meaning he would be targeted.
Furthermore, why would he suggest that and then use his twist virus on me, which would have directed all actions aimed at me to hit him instead, and vice versa? Any investigative role that targeted me would have, that evening, returned a value of "scum"Or nothing would happen because of infoblockers, immunity on Bard's part... etc etc. This game doesn't exactly lack for roles here.
Nobody, as it happens. Lynching Bardiche rendered the ability null, as I was informed after the flip.... Okay, I'll believe that, since it's backed by the flavor text and Bard's death rule.
And, you know, pointing out Bardiche as scum too. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg569910.html#msg569910) Not to mention the other bits of scumhunting earlier.Except that's kinda been weakened because I already posted some reasoning to Bard being scum but I suppose it's a valid answer.
and there are 3 scumWait, when did this happen? We know for sure? Last game it was just Kitten and I against the world.
since there are no facts. (HINT HINT)Sorry? These take a while. ;_; ( 1 hour and a half, gone :V)
Wait, when did this happen? We know for sure? Last game it was just Kitten and I against the world.Isn't it in the OP?
@Bard
I'm reading Shadoweh as a heavyhanded townie with good intentions. I don't see anything wrong with trying to make some useful discussion. As for the lurkers, I'm willing to put them on the backburner until D2, sure.
Bardiche: Bard is confusing and just as unreadable as ever. I'll look at him later along with Zakeri and Shadoweh.
Edible: I can think of a few ways what Hourai did makes sense as scum. If you don't think he's scum though which TWO others do you suspect? I'll consider this claiming vanilla townie for now.
*crickets*Are you SURE we have to choose between them for scum Edibles?
Coolmango Danceachoo Dormio: Cool you're kinda like a rolecop except completely useless because you only get names?Yes. I think I'm the closest to vanilla town here.
Seriously what else did you get?People who try to investigate whether I'm town or not will get incorrect readings on me.
Not an argument, just a logical statement to make. I call to your attention this (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg567305.html#msg567305), in which Bard outright asks all night roles to target me/pesco, including potential investigative roles. Why in the world would he want someone to investigate me, were I fellow scum? Furthermore, why would he suggest that and then use his twist virus on me, which would have directed all actions aimed at me to hit him instead, and vice versa? Any investigative role that targeted me would have, that evening, returned a value of "scum" - because it would have actually hit Bard and no one would have been the wiser. Tell me, what sort of alignment is his power best used on?WIFOM. We don't know what Bard or your roles are, so who knows what motives scum may have for a twist virus? Speculating the setup is silly and unproductive when we have flips, wagons, and posts to work off of. And it happens to be something that scum like to do.
A sensible mind understands that I have more townie cred right now than almost any living player, through virtue of solid evidence (see above).The only people with townie cred right now are Shadow and Doll S.
I don't think Iced Fairy is scum for much the same reasons I didn't think you were yesterday and D1.Can you at least repeat your reasoning? Or is it for the same reason you "cleared" Bardiche?
the latter might imply hesitation and allowed Bardiche to self-hammer.
This post (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg569815.html#msg569815) where you don't have an opinion to make
And then this mess of words that was basically a request to talk less. (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg569815.html#msg569815)
If you are not scum I will eat my hat.I will hold you to this.
Conqueror: In your analysis posts, you've said "I'll look at you later" or a variant thereof to everyone that hadn't already been discussed by someone else every time.I believe that at this point I have followed up on the people I missed, except for Shadoweh. If I have missed someone point them out to me.
Naturally, you haven't followed up on this except for when you talked about Bard/Zak somewhat. Though that train of thought of yours was concluded with "I will bring up my own points against Bard and Zak later."
I will hold you to this.It's on!
I believe that at this point I have followed up on the people I missed, except for Shadoweh. If I have missed someone point them out to me.Firstly, like I said, Bard/Zak:
Zakeri: I will look at you later. You're not around enough to be memorable, so I don't really know what to think about you yet. I've answered several points in your post below though.This was followed by:
Bardiche: Bard is confusing and just as unreadable as ever. I'll look at him later along with Zakeri and Shadoweh.
I will bring up my own points against Bard and Zak later.Those points never came.
Iced Fairy: I'll look at you along with the others I missed blah blah.
Schezo: I'm too tired to look at you. But yeah, Bard's actions don't clear you by any means. I'll look at you again later.Basically what I'm saying is that every time you've brought up someone that other people haven't talked about yet, you fall back to your "I'll look at you later".
It's on!Can I choose the hat you eat?
Basically what I'm saying is that every time you've brought up someone that other people haven't talked about yet, you fall back to your "I'll look at you later".Is just a misrepresentation.
Can I choose the hat you eat?Don't get ahead of yourself now.
Hourai: Other people have pretty much said everything I think.
Edible: Eh, you're giving me this scummy vibe but I can't really find much to back it up aside from day one shenanigans.
But I'm pretty sure I have followed up on all my posts (barring the last big one, which I'll be able to follow up later in the day).All you said about Iced Fairy in your follow up was that Iced Fairy makes both good and bad posts and should be watched.
Don't get ahead of yourself now.So can I choose the hat or not?
All you said about Iced Fairy in your follow up was that Iced Fairy makes both good and bad posts and should be watched.
That applies to everyone.
So can I choose the hat or not?Let's leave this for post-game, if it's relevant.
Orz, no time for full post.Oh.. wait.
(quote from me from my DIE SCHEZO rant)
Ignores this point.
Argh, I don't want scum anony voting.
##Unvote
##Vote: Doll
FFFFFF what is going on?
That's not actually what I meant at all; I guess I wasn't clear enough. I meant that Iced Fairy brings up his fair share of points but that a good deal of his posts seem to be "conversational" without being completely scum-hunting related, buffing up his posts without adding too much content to the equation. Basically I'm saying I get the feeling he's trying to fluff up his post count, which is not wrong in and of itself, but it rubs me the wrong way. It also looks like people give him a pass just because he's around and talks a lot. So I am suspicious, but there are other people more suspicious than him, so I am paying more attention to them.To some degree I was overposting early game now that I look back. Part of that was enthusiasm, part of that was Polaris leaving me with a big fat zero for day one content, and part of it was me being a noob and focusing more on clearing up the role garbage instead of scumhunting. It was in retrospect unnecessary.
WIFOM. We don't know what Bard or your roles are, so who knows what motives scum may have for a twist virus? Speculating the setup is silly and unproductive when we have flips, wagons, and posts to work off of. And it happens to be something that scum like to do.
Can you at least repeat your reasoning? Or is it for the same reason you "cleared" Bardiche?
And no, the idea that Bard would self-hammer never came to my mind, as I'm sure it didn't come to yours.
But that leaves me with, wasn't the doc supposed to cancel out the twist when he clearly claims (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg568969.html#msg568969) it cancels out all bad effects and the NK? I have other theories that don't need to leave my head until I get everything on Bard but this is to just tell you I'm here.
Edible- Just to understand, your main point on Conqueror is that he almost never mentioned Bard?
Hanged Helper: Oh, okay, I guess you're the only role that doesn't have two effects then....
No wait. That's stupid. So who do you think is the scum team if it's not you?
If you were convinced someone was scum, why try to hide your opinion?Like I said, more cred. And I knew that I didn't mention Pesco, so openly wanting a lynch on him at the end of the day, tying up the wagons, would be very suspect. Like this is any better. :V
And I would like you restate everything about your doctor role right now please.
On matters related to what happened tonight, let me get this straight.Also pretty sure you mean Schezo not Edible.
Pesco targeted Edible, but his ability wound up hitting me.
Hourai targeted Edible, but his ability wound up hitting me.
Shadoweh targeted Pesco, and his ability also wound up hitting me.
This is all consistent with Pesco's claim that whatever will occur to him will also occur to me, and so far everyone's claims check out. Including Hourai's.
About powers, if you look really closely you can see Hourai used one just now.
About powers, if you look really closely you can see Hourai used one just now.Don't just drag my name through the mud. What do you mean by that?
Edible, I dislike how you keep claiming that Bardiche's plan hurt you in any way. It, in fact, protected you from everything that was going down on Pesco.
On reviewing, I also dislike how you completely shrugged off the idea that Bardiche might have been the source of your twist early day 2, and instead gave him a pass.
However I think I see something of your thoughts here which would change my opinion. Would you like me to restate my personal case on Hourai, or are you waiting on Schezo to speak?
5: He's just not that bad at Mafia.5. Thanks I guess
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About powers, if you look really closely you can see Hourai used one just now.What do you mean? I have nothing except for my doctoring.
1: Pesco didn't believe his roleclaim and Helper tried to mob him without telling anyone.1. And he was scummy.
2: I pointed out about four times on day 2 why his claim was impossible and Schezo's sorting of Bardiche's role confirms it.
3: He went out of his way to translate my rant against Schezo and never translated anything else I said.
4: He took 36 hours to defend himself.
I'm really not liking the looks of this.
Why Schezo?
Are you really just going to use OMGUS reasoning in Day 3?
Also, Schezo: I thought your ability was to start a riot. How are you finding out role information?
DotS now, will say more later.
God dammit Hourai, if I die to the waffle... I want you all to follow up on him and rectify my death, I mean I got you all in the craziest frenzy since the storming of the Bastille. :V
I'm serious about that first part though.
Sigh, I have 1 more ability to find out completely and fully anyone who was lynched abilities. But since we pretty much know all about PX's powers me using it would be moot. And if I die today, fuck it.
@huh what: then stop giving people crazy powers then. :V
Did you get to fake rolecop Night 2 as well?I get to send one message every night.
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- Delayed Autopsy - The flip of the affected day's lynch will not be revealed until the next morning.[/underline]
- Flock of Pigeons - Players may send eachother anonymous messages through the mod, but only twice in the day. Players who have already used up both of their anonymous messages will be listed below the votecount. Attempting to contact another player through means other than the moderator will still result in a modkill.
[underline]- Double Check - The day's lynch will be given a full flip, revealing additional information on their role.
Also also, does everyone have in their role tell thing what effect will happen if they die too?I, for one, don't.
Also huhwhat, does these two effects, well, effect each other?They overlap, but are unrelated.
Dormio -
Acts Scummy
Drive by posting and voting. Still hasn't built a real case. Basically nothing has changed since my last post on him substantively. If you're town, get some facts and logical thinking to bring to the table Day 4. Otherwise you're on the table.
But notice how he doesn't give a shard of evidence or even a paraphrase to even go off of why he thinks either is suspicious.As I said before (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg572508.html#msg572508), I don't like the following about Hourai in addition to what's been stated by others:
About powers, if you look really closely you can see Hourai used one just now.If you really mean this, it could mean that you saw someone else use a role.
Trois, Schezo could be a stone-faced liar. The reason I want Schezo dead is that be could easily be lying about the twist being flavored as bad to just kill me. It also doesn't seem that unreasonable that Bard told him all details of his power, and Schezo is just peppering the negative flavor in. So when your case on me blows up in your face, I will laugh and laugh.
Erm, nobody should be hammering anything quite yet. We still have like 8 hours left in the day, don't we?I was just making sure, because I thought someone said they wanted to end the day early.
Anyone with an opinion one way or the other will do, and Schezo supposedly caught Hourai in a lie and as such needs no further elaboration. It seems like Hourai is a major point of contention for the day, so I think everyone should get their ideas out in the open.
I agree. Your thoughts on Hourai, Edible?
I'd still rather see you hang than him, but at this point I can somewhat understand why other people want him lynched. :v
For today, you two are my scummiest because you're are the most best choices if someone wants to move their vote.
Trying to convince everyone of Schezo being scum now would likely turn up useless as no one would believe me or listen to me. I have no proof on him until after my flip.
So you're saying you really have no case, but your flip will magically turn Schezo into the scummiest person in town.Pretty much since he'd be proven to be lying about his role, or at least the info he got..
Trying to convince everyone of Schezo being scum now would likely turn up useless as no one would believe me or listen to me. I have no proof on him until after my flip.Oh yes, so let's not even bother trying to find dirt on your target, die with no case at all, and tell people to kill Schezo for no real reason.
Oh yes, so let's not even bother trying to find dirt on your target, die with no case at all, and tell people to kill Schezo for no real reason.Not today, but tomorrow.
Or, rather, somehow your flip will magically incriminate Schezo.
Pretty much since he'd be proven to be lying about his role, or at least the info he got..Yeah.
Hangy has been claiming rule 9 btw.
Also, if Conqueror and I are the best alternate lynches for today in you opinion, why doesn't that status carry over to tomorrow for us?
Way to not say anything on anyone but Hourai, Conqueror and ask for others opinions without giving any yourself.
Stop being rude in the thread.:<
You are Rule 8, Townie Magical Barrier.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- Being an embodiment of No Lynches, you are adequately prepared to protect townies from harm. During the night phase, you may PM me the command ##Guard (Player Name), and the player you chose will be immune to all harmful actions that night, nightkills included.
- However, your ability is not without its limits. If you succesfully protect your target from any type of harmful action, you will be informed that you will need to spend the following night recharging. During said night, you will be incapable of using your role.
So. Certain people got some 'splaining to do. I'll be nice and let you all make the points first instead of taking them for myself.You could use some explaining yourself. And why so passive?
I'm not even sure we'll get to use the Blessing since the Doctor is dead.Would you ever have been able to use the Blessing when the Doctor wasn't dead? :V
@mod Will you tell us when town is in MYLO or LYLO?Yes.
You could use some explaining yourself. And why so passive?Because active pushing hasn't gotten me anywhere. I want to see people post without crib sheets from me and Shadoweh.
I'll confirm the second part of what you said though. Conqueror is scum. Not only is Conqueror scum, he's the post restrictor.Could you explain this Shadoweh?
I know I have a shitton against me now that I'm sure people will jump on me for, but seriously, I honestly believed that Hourai was lying with the information huh what sent me and now I don't know to trust even the mod now. Goddammit. I will say right now if I didn't have that complete roll misinterpretation, I wouldn't have pushed the Hourai lynch more than I would have the Conqueror one.
and because I hate getting cut without being able to put in a word edgewise, take this. But Shadoweh, if you know the setup of the game, don't you think it would help town to share that knowledge?
After giving it some thought I've come to the conclusion keeping the information my role gave me a secret isn't a good enough reason to withhold this from Town.
As part of my role I checked the edit history of MafiaRules.rtf (who uses wordpad seriously) and saw some of the game setup. Whenever someone dies a special effect is added to the day phase afterwards. The effect is specifically linked to the person lynched which is why I think it relates to the rules we represent.
I honestly believed that Hourai was lying with the information huh what sent me and now I don't know to trust even the mod now. Goddammit.I could modkill you for supposedly directly quoting me if I wanted to. >:|
Iced Fairy: Conqueror's day effect is called VIRUS OUTBREAK and gives everyone a POSTING RESTRICTION with differing effects if broken.
Iced Fairy: Conqueror's day effect is called VIRUS OUTBREAK and gives everyone a POSTING RESTRICTION with differing effects if broken....
Give me a good reason not to flip the fuck out when the PM you sent me said:It had me fooled too -.- I've been trying to parse how this could be possible if Schezo isn't scum and it implies that the virus got passed before any role actions were taken into question. Which would explain how Hourai got redirected without stopping the virus. Schezo, can you check over the rest of the wording for that?
"negative redirecting effect,"
How am I supposed to take that when it says he protects, watch this, harmful actions?
SA;LKDFUIAOWHKLNE
Sorry Hourai, misinformation. :<
But, now Edible, that's pretty interesting, because Shadoweh sent me pretty much the same thing about how she knows all this stuff, I don't believe it anymore that she has that badass of a role, especially compared to Bard to know all this crap about people. She says she know for a fact mind you that Conqueror is scum and that I should team up with her to get the Hourai lynch, which I believed in and then the Conqueror lynch which if the nightkill would have went through, would have put town at a LYLO situation I'm almost sure. That scum gambit with Bard went really well but I didn't want to say this earlier that I think they coordinated it because I say Bard online for more than enough time to quick hammer Doll if he wanted to and with almost everyone on anyway at that time iirc he was just waiting for Shadoweh to unvote to he could catch himself and give Shadoweh what would be the ultimate pass. I know none of this will seem to stand up to shit because it's all easily forged and it's just off of my and Edible's word, but that's what I really think happened at this point. Shadoweh also said in his PM to me that he know for a fact Conq. was some virus flavor and would give everyone a post restriction when he died, which is bullshit to me because I'm reading Bard's role as the most Bastardized and that would be hell on earth if everyone in the game had to go through Shadoweh's post restriction for a whole day. Also, how on earth does he know that there are vote changing role out? Once again he has way too much information to be town, because so far he's hinted at vig day one and is now a rolecop with what he says is only an ability to look at people's death abilities. But when I look at what Hourai's death ability just did, I see no correlation between giving someone a one shot cop and being doctor. We don't know Kitten's day ability and PX's still was kinda waffle but Pesco's linking and then sending bird's to each other is just so random there is no way he can deduce, all the way to flavor mind you, people's roles.
WIFOM but, ya ever notice how he's almost proven town "rolecop" and since Doll is pretty useless, I would have thought he would have been the NK target because proven townies are always bad for scum, especially lategame, but he hasn't died for either of the two nights.
Hmm, what rule are you then Edible? Non of the rules seem to be connected to being bulletproof?
...I checked Conqueror yesterday, hence why both Schezo and Edible know about it because I sent it to them via pidgeons.
And things get more confusing. Shadoweh, what day did you check this and (this is very very important) what is the wording of your grim reaper ability. Don't quote, just give me an idea on it's restrictions and resolution.
I'm gonna give my initial idea's tonight, but the answer to this question may totally change everything I say.
've been trying to parse how this could be possible if Schezo isn't scum and it implies that the virus got passed before any role actions were taken into question. Which would explain how Hourai got redirected without stopping the virus. Schezo, can you check over the rest of the wording for that?Umm, can you ask this again? Like what do you want me to tell you?
I know there are vote changing roles out there because Edible is called Hammer Bros and Iced Fairy claimed vote strengthening powers yesterday.Asking again because you were asked before, where do you see this? I would like to see the quotes because I guess I'm missing it.
Why would Scum kill Doll when he's claimed his powers activate when he DIES?Why not? He's town and this is role madness so everyone activates something when they die.
Umm, can you ask this again? Like what do you want me to tell you?Does the wording of Bardiche's virus imply that it will take effect before any other night actions?
]Asking again because you were asked before, where do you see this? I would like to see the quotes because I guess I'm missing it.
First a warning : There are vote strength manipulating powers in the game (yes that's a partial claim). I didn't use mine, but if someone else has them scum could quick hammer before you'd expect it. It'd be stupid, but Day 2 proved scum can be stupid. Vote Unvote on anyone with a vote already on them is safer for town right now.
Also, I know through my night abilities that Edible is a "Hammer Bro", does this sound like town to you?
Why not? He's town and this is role madness so everyone activates something when they die.No, everyone has two powers AND an effect that activates when they die. Doll's powers as he's stated ALL activate when he dies. I'm not sure what will happen if I check him. Either I'll see a third effect or I'll see his two choosable powers.
And if you know for a fact that Conqueror is scum, why on earth hasn't your vote gotten on him and stayed there like glue if you really are town? Confirmed scum like if you copped him has no reason for you not to have your vote on him so that doesn't help your case.I told you why yesterday, I didn't want another backwards impossible to be understood through restriction. I also wanted to watch him so he could lead me to the missing scum since I didn't know if it was Hourai.
@IF: Before I address that, can you clarify something for me?It was. But I can give it out anyway.
How does Shadoweh's ability help your case against my alignment? I think I'm missing a step in your logic, or it was left out unintentionally.
I don't follow. Shadoweh targeted Pesco N1, Conq N2 (at least, according to her PM to me and via process of elimination), and Schezo N3. How does this information change the knowledge you've gleaned from your role?It doesn't. However it removes any doubt I had over her role use due to my own failure.
@Mod Am I allowed to quote my anonymous messages in this thread?Yes.
Umm didn't he join day 2?
Dear Edible.
Hello, this is Shadoweh! I guess someone could try to fake being me but really? Really. You have been chosen to receive this because Dormio doesn't realize he just claimed cop and cleared you. Considering the info I have I'd be surprised if any of the scum role names don't involve 'Virus' and I've thought you were town all game so I might as well live or die with my gut.
First of all the reason for what happened with Hourai is so simple I can't believe it eluded me. No one was ever suposed to see the waffle move. See how in post 363 he said "Argh, I don't want scum anony voting." and voted, then after the votecount in post 371 said "It said that Doll had L-2!". The votecount in #356 was originally messed up, huh what had Schezo voting Doll (5 votes instead of 4) and said Doll was at L-2. Hourai thought when he voted for Doll it was the hammer. If this plan had worked Bardiche would've been able to hard bus his fiercest opponent Zakeri the next day as the vote that "must have moved". Note that Hanged Hourai and Conqueror are also the ones that helped Bardiche hammer himself.
Oh, did I mention Conqueror is scum? Because Conqueror is scum. I checked him last night and not only is his day effect named Virus Outbreak but he gives out a POST RESTRICTION when he dies to everyone. Also check out the way he's trying to get Dormio lynched instead of going for the easy Hourai wagon. Now I don't know about you but I don't want another horrific post restriction written by Conqueror tomorrow so I propose we lynch Hourai today and not let Conqueror know we're onto him until he gets hit by a insta-lynch the next day.
If you agree to this plan please make a post with the words "Oh and Shadoweh is still townie obvious town." I will make a post with the reply "Edible: Is still the tastiest of tasty mans."
Did it say that both N2 and N3?Yes. Though the wording was different between the two because technically it was a different power being used. My last power allowed me to double up on one of my one shots.
You may dislike my scumhunting methods, but a sensible mind understands that I have more townie cred right now than almost any living player, through virtue of solid evidence (see above). If you insist on painting me as scum, I'll post a rebuttal to your other arguments, but until then I will make better use of my time.You didn't say you were immune to needing to scumhunt but you are claiming townie cred from something that protected you from being investigated by anyone or married to Pesco.
Shadoweh: I forgot what I was going to say about you because re-reading your posts is painful. I will get back to you later, so someone please remind me. I'll just ask you, what happened to your previous case on Pesco? What may or may not have happened Night One has no bearing on your previous case.
1: If Pesco's ability had activated when he said it did the Twist would never have retargetted it.
but you are claiming townie cred from something that protected you from being investigated by anyone or married to Pesco.
4: Schezo isn't comfirmed scum and you aren't qualified to say what timing went first.
Being an embodiment of No Lynches, you are adequately prepared to protect townies from harm. During the night phase, you may PM me the command ##Guard (Player Name), and the player you chose will be immune to all harmful actions that night, nightkills included.
I believe that's enough for now.*Sigh*
We can't use Lynch all Liars on Pesco, he's already dead and confirmed town.
And your twist makes sense with that logic except for one thing. Hourai said he was told his power targetted SOMEONE and Pesco. An investigative role getting SOMEONE IS SCUM would be useless.
Let's just pretend the mod is ridiculous if it will help you look at cases besides Schezo.
Final edit: Oh and who has the waffle? If anyone?
Here we go, I was going off memory when I said the protect successfully went up on Edible.
Upon a reread, I now see that I was only informed the my protect did go up on someone, along with one on Pesco.
I assumed off of memory that it was referring to Edible since I targeted him.
So now the actions make a lot more sense.
Schezo: I'm too tired to look at you. But yeah, Bard's actions don't clear you by any means. I'll look at you again later.Also, assuming that Shadoweh is telling the truth and that Conqueror's death effect is a global post restriction, what kind of townie has this sort of ability?
Because I've been trying to write this for over and hour and have not much.Because I've been trying to write this for over an hour and don't have much.*
Firstly, Hourai wasn't scum, what? :ohdear:Inorite? :ohdear:
Adding to my cases that both of them are town, I don't think Conqueror got the memo I was out for his blood.Eh? This statement doesn't make sense.
Both him and Conqueror failed to throw in a hammer.Not speaking for Iced, but I stated my full intention to vote for the Hourai wagon. Not hammering is a minor detail because you don't need a majority to lynch and you can look at my past posts to see that I stated my intention to hammer, so I was on the wagon whether I hammered or not.
PS: For Conqueror. My case on you is that you gave me a backwards posting restriction and I will hang you forever for it. Period. Your day effect could be called Fuzzy Hug Kittens and I wouldn't have seen past 'Post Restriction'....But I didn't give you a posting restriction. D:
Okay, so everyone is well aware the only lynch I support today is Conqueror right?I think at this point everyone has agreed that Conqueror dies. On that note, let's make sure we don't lynch him too early.
Edible is town. At this point in the game faking a bulletproof would be less important then killing me or another town and lynching a town to win today.Passable reasoning. We know from Bardiche that scum make stupid gambits when they don't need to (unless you think Dolls is scum ::) ) but with my airtight reasoning on why Schezo was telling the truth actually being garbage, it seems reasonable. I still hate his lack of scumhunting and insistence that everyone else put their cards on the table why he keeps his hand hidden. But that's looking to just be a personal thing.
Schezo is town. Schezo never needed to make up a mod-approved pm lying about negative effects to get him lynched.Terrible reasoning. Schezo roleclaimed Day 2 when he was on the hotseat. Not using his power would have been a strike against him too. I need to review my case on Schezo though since his day 3 play was pretty non existant barring these damned role shenanigans.
Dormio is town. I still believe Dormio is a cop. What's more, Dormio is the only name Conqueror ever makes a real case and votes for, ever. Everything else is bandwagon hopping. I also don't get the same vibe everyone else does from his posts.Once again bad reasoning. Cops aren't always town aligned. And with EVERYONE having Conqueror on their to kill list, he could well be voting fellow scum. Honestly my biggest fear right now is that Dormio is the last scum and is laughing at us tearing each other apart. Which is why I need a reread on Schezo
If I believe all of these things, combined with myself being town and Conqueror being scum, there's only one conclusion left.You may believe all these things, but 3 of them are damn shakey. Seriously, look at them again.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HOURAI'S INCORRECT ROLECLAIM SHADOWEH GOD STOP POINTING IT OUT.I didn't say nothing was wrong. I said it was damn obvious that Hourai assumed he targeted the person he targeted. And I was right. People make assumptions and then fill in fuzzy places with what they want to see. For example, your whole post.
(Hourai corrects his roleclaim in the next post.)
Post #405 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg570009.html#msg570009) I believe you Hourai.There was this thing called night two in between these two posts, where I reread all of Hourai's stuff. Which leads me to this.
Post #433 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg571285.html#msg571285) HANGED HOURAI WTF.
You were the nail in Schezo's coffin! (except that part where he waffled PESCO.)I stand by this, and he himself admits to it here.
Oh man, my play yesterday. I could come up with all types of BS to make it sound better, but here it is.
Near the end of D2, I had done a reread on Pesco and convinced myself that he was more likely to be scum. So I came up with the plan to get him lynched, while at the same time, pretending to hunt Schezo.
(On a reread this is suspicious since he just unvoted Hourai and he just said he thinks Edible is acting weird.)This is when my Edible case first started. I had just noticed that Edible had done about the same amount of scumhunting as Dormio, despite his friendly neighborhood town exterior. I spent the rest of the day and the start of this one trying to get Edible to do something.
Post #486 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8570.msg572241.html#msg572241)Even if Hourai is telling the truth he's scum and doctors blocking info is extra great!Do you disagree with the idea that if Scum did a Bus on themselves having someone info block wouldn't be good?
Calls out Conqueror to make an amazing post Day 4 (But we know that's not really going to be nessicary, right?)Don't see that since we're still killing Conqueror. Remember once again, I didn't know he's scum like you did.
(Hint, anyone that believed Bardiche thought the vote was random and didn't use the time he got from stalling to make sure Pesco was going to get lynched is wr-ong.)
He does an excellent job of explaining why I'm still town despite my horrible Day 3 play, but tries to use it as an excuse why Edible coming after me makes him scum.Shadoweh when you're accusing logical thought as being scummy behavior you MIGHT BE TUNNLING.
Both him and Conqueror failed to throw in a hammer.I didn't throw in a Hammer because I didn't want to find out what "Hammer Brother" did. Especially since I wasn't certain about Edible. I didn't say this in thread because I did want to find out what happened to Conqueror. No such luck.
Why would a scum roleblocker block him two nights in a row when he didn't claim to be roleblocked Day 3 and if he was roleblocked why didn't he mention it earlier?Mu. Your question is innately wrong.
We can lynch Conqueror today and Doll can cop Iced Fairy tomorrow.I think Dolls target would be better elsewhere, but posting it in this thread would be foolish because there's obviously an infoblocker about. And it says in big bold letters that if it's infoblocked everything goes away.
But really, it is nice to have something that I can respond to rather than just lurking here and waiting to die.Shouldn't you be, you know, actually doing stuff if you're town and want to save yourself instead of lurking?
I mean, you mention other people's thoughts on him but not your own.I didn't include it because we pretty much know he's scum at this point, and honestly I'd just be regurgitating a lot of my old thoughts. But if you want:
Anyway, I am Rule 1, the Governator, and I have the power to write the flavor for the night scenes (a.k.a the morning scenes). I also have a one-shot Governor ability that I can use to stop the lynch of a player that I have not voted for on that dayThe only thing I can add is this roleclaim is a joke. Look at the morning flavor, then back to Conqueror's posts. DO you see a connection? Cause I don't. Oh and look, an excuse for not voting! How handy to have in a role.
Are you seriously saying we need to lynch Conqueror TWICE because he can block it the first time?Do you honestly BELIEVE that roleclaim?
Remember that Scum doesn't know redirects take place first either. Bardiche uses Bus Driver on Edible. Here's what I think is the missing action. The Scum roleblocker tried to roleblock Pesco.Problems with your theory:
Do you honestly BELIEVE that roleclaim?The flavor part? Hell no. I know that's where his post restriction power goes. The part about Governor? Yes.
1 - I join day 2.I thought about this.
2 - I still have my one shot roleblocker.
3 - If Bardiche is Virusing, Conqueror is Restricting you and me from the future sent back to the past is roleblocking, who is night killing?
2: If you never really had to use your fourth power you should indeed still have one roleblock.Except they're all one unique shots. One of each and a single repeat. And I used the repeat last night on Conqueror.
Anyone making a case on Schezo because of the mod pm needs to realize their case is based on a mistake Scum Schezo ISN'T CAPABLE OF MAKING.
Why not?The simplest answer to that is Schezo misunderstood the wording. How is it impossible to see that scum Schezo, already knowing Hourai would flip town, would have no reason to claim Hourai was lying? Especially not in a way that would doom him the next day.
If you can think of a scenario in which Schezo told the truth about his role and HW didn't lie about it, I'm all ears. Until then, lynch all liars - period.
Remember that Scum doesn't know redirects take place first either. Bardiche uses Bus Driver on Edible. Here's what I think is the missing action. The Scum roleblocker tried to roleblock Pesco.
I would personally prefer Schezo, but clearing my alignment might be useful as well.I don't believe even Dolls hits that level of incompetence.
Frankly, I'm concerned Doll will simply forget about using the ability at all.
The only thing I can add is this roleclaim is a joke. Look at the morning flavor, then back to Conqueror's posts. DO you see a connection? Cause I don't. Oh and look, an excuse for not voting! How handy to have in a role.
Not to mention that huhwhat would have to figure out how all the night actions resolved, tell Conqueror the details in advance, then Conqueror would have time to think about what the flips ment before going on to the next day. Do you see such thought reflected in his posts?
Are you seriously saying we need to lynch Conqueror TWICE because he can block it the first time? God I screwed up not lynching you yesterday. I've never seen Governor used, will it just stop the lynch and redistribute votes or does the person with second-most votes get lynched? If the answer is the first I'm ready to vote for him now and get that power overwith.
Shouldn't you be, you know, actually doing stuff if you're town and want to save yourself instead of lurking?
Or are you going to continue to do that "I'll look at you later" thing?
In all seriousness, I would type up a nice post-by-post analysis on why every last one of you is scum, but I currently lack the motivation to do so.Because if you're town and about to die, not leaving any information that could be used the next day is the best course of action, right?
Because if you're town and about to die, not leaving any information that could be used the next day is the best course of action, right?
Edible pushes me as the best bet without outright making a firm stance
Who's the other scum, then?
I was wrong. Edible is not scum. He didn't perform the night kill.
Lockdown
All day roles, both passive and active, will fizzle out until the day ends. Effects that carry over into the day phase will be temporarily ignored.
Conqueror was actually playing Rule 1, Scum Restricting Rolecop,
If you guys are about to hammer me, can you hold it off for a bit and let me make one final post before I die?If/When you decide to hammer, that is.
So Edible, does this mean that your posts are restricted too?
Because I have a crackpot theory and if it turns out to be true I'm going to be laughing pretty hard.
10. The day ends once I post the flavor. There is no such thing as twilight in my realm, so if I'm late, consider it an extension. The only exception is if there is a hammer, in which case speaking is forbidden until I post the update.
If you are not scum I will eat my hat.I will hold you to this.
Doll.S, playing Rule 2, Townie Asteroids Monster, has been split into two overnight! His death did not trigger a day effect, however, he would have continued to vote among us today had it not been for Lockdown's effect.
Hey, IF.I win when threats to town = 0.
What's your win condition?
I win when threats to town = 0.
Oh hey oh hey! Since Dormio is dead, night can finally just last 24 hours, right? Which means there's not a whole lot of it left!Screw you.
Quick post to say that I hope every single one of you on the PX wagon feels shame and disgust for even considering your vote, and I hope you all hang. A post-game discussion on what consists of a good D1 lynch and what doesn't is in order.
I was on the fence when this day started even with him "confirmed" because I didn't believe his outrageous play and with iced saying he confirmed town... but after all the bullshit iced said about me. Lol die scum.and uh dolls who had the fullcop saying Edible was town, too ):
Wow, if I had killed Doll N3 like I first planned, Edible would have killed off Shadoweh. >>
It's a shame Hourai can't summon Captain Planet.Is this good? :V
Hey Edible, when I cop checked you, it says that yours only a one-shot for either bulletproof or vig, did you really get targeted for NK on the night we didn't have anybody die?
Also, I should probably throw this out for the record - if my "schezo is so obviously scum" comment wasn't dripping with sarcasm enough, I had a pretty good bead on IF.That makes me feel somewhat better. I figured you suspected me (because I was guilty as sin and two people had figured it out). So thus my only way to win at that point was to convince him to lynch you. Somehow.
You are Rule 5, Townie Shade.Your abilities are as follows:This was probably town's best role, as tracking would have been incredibly useful this game with both the twist and a restrictor lying around.You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- You are fully aware of the schedule for the game's day and night phases, and ready to use this to your advantage. During the night phase, you may blend into the shadows and stalk another player, learning who your target used their night role on that phase, if applicable. If your target did not leave their house, you will startle them, preventing them from using their role during the following day phase and the next night phase.
You are Rule 8, Townie Magical Barrier.Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- Being an embodiment of No Lynches, you are adequately prepared to protect townies from harm. During the night phase, you may PM me the command ##Guard (Player Name), and the player you chose will be immune to all harmful actions that night, nightkills included.
- However, your ability is not without its limits. If you succesfully protect your target from any type of harmful action, you will be informed that you will need to spend the following night recharging. During said night, you will be incapable of using your role.
Pretty much a trap role despite being a doc, on the grounds that he could potentially screw up an investigation and be forced to recharge on the same night. Not to mention his inability to block Twist. He did, however, have the boon of being able to stop the posting restrictions and voteblocks (the latter of which he caught N1), which were scum's best ways of messing with town early on.
- Nightkill (Scum)
- Hammer Vig (Hammer Bro)
- Stalk (Shade) <- blocked even if the roleblocking doesn't take effect
- Blackmail (Dormio) <- not actually harmful, but considered so due to flavor reasons
- Restrict (Restricting Rolecop)
- All Tetris Block Effects (Tetris Block)
You are Rule 6, Townie Riot Leader.Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- As it turns out, the town can be a very angry bunch, stopping at nothing to settle their thirst for the blood of scum. Who better to know this but the rule dictating the lynch mechanics? During the night phase, you may choose to rally the town up by PMing me the command ##Start Mob, and as a result, the top two voted-for players will be lynched instead of only the player with the most votes during the following day phase. This only works once in the game, and is considered a day effect.
- Your benifits of your control over lynchings does not stop there, however. Once in the game, you may send me the command ##Lookup (Day Number), and you will proceed to graverob the player who was lynched that day and learn the full information of their role. If multiple players were lynched that day, you will need to specify one. This will obviously fail if no players were lynched on that day, not that I have any idea why you would waste your ability like that!
KingmakerShame on you all for not lynching Schezo D2, I really hoped his day effect would come into play. Like Hourai's, it mainly existed to help analysis some time in the future in case the kings flipped, due to the promised role augmentation. Except said role augmentation didn't matter anyway and was only there to make kingvotes less of a null tell. :V
Players will vote to elect a player who chooses the day's lynch, rather than going by the typical voting process. The elected player will receive a special benifit for their role, regardless of their alignment.
MOD NOTE: The "special benifit" is the addition of with BENIFITS! to the end of the chosen player's role name. Pointless bastardry!
You are Rule 2, Townie Asteroids Monster.Not much to say about this, either - it was mainly just a filler role intended to potentially give Bard a night discussion partner if the townie who rolled it died (which didn't work out, like half of the things I hoped for this game). It was also the only role I would consider to be completely free from bastardry, with no traps whatsoever, no day effect trigger, no need to worry about Twist screwing it up and the added bonus of pre-game knowledge about the set-up's main gimmick. Shame it essentially ended up being a Vanilla role as far as the game's outcome was concerned.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- You are a rather tricky one, and may manipulate the circumstances around your death to avoid the rule you're based on. After your death, you may PM me and choose to either be given voting abilities (but not speech) during the closest day phase, or be given speech during the closest night phase. Note that if you choose to gain voting abilities after dying overnight, your ability will take effect immediately, and likewise if you choose to gain speech after dying through lynch.
- Currently unbeknownst to most of the players is the fact that whenever a player dies in this game, a special effect will be added to the day phase following their death. However, being able to technically live on past your death is enough of a game alteration, so you are currently mod-guaranteed to not trigger any Day Effects after you die. For now, anyway.
You are Rule 11, Townie Waffle Buster.I liked this role's name a lot. That's really all I think there is to say on the matter, though.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- Being the authority on how players vote rule-wise, you hate to see these votes go to waste. If the town is ever waffling between two lynch targets and appears to be stuck in a tie, you may PM me the command ##Bust (Player Name), and that player will gain an anonymous half-vote, breaking any ties they are involved in. You may change what player your half-vote is on at any time by PMing me.
- Additionally, you are so dedicated to your role of breaking ties that nobody can stop you! Any roles attempting to block you will fizzle out.
You are Rule 12, Townie Blackmailer.The inclusion of the Miller ability was another case of pointless bastardry, seeing as there were no ordinary cops in the set-up whatsoever. I only added it to the role to keep the Blackmailer on their toes.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- While the motive for your existance as a rule might sound pleasant, you have some rather shadowy hidden depths, as evidenced by that last sentence right there. During the night phase, you may PM me a 125-word or less threatening message to send to a player of your choice, and if it is adequately threatening (I will tell you if it isn't), you will be informed of the name of their role the following morning.
- Your rather corrupt methods make you a Miller. You will scan as guilty to sane cops, and town to insane cops.
You are Rule 4, Townie Effect Cop.I liked this role PM. Shadoweh had a fairly sane role with a decently useful ability, and there is very little to say aside from this.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- Having checked the edit history of the wordpad file (yeah, I don't use notepad for this, sue me) in which the information on this game's set-up has been kept, you are aware of something the mod DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW: whenever a player dies in this game, a special effect will be added to the day phase following their death. This may become more evident to the rest of the town over time, but for now, you have the privalege of knowing this game's major gimmick before it comes into play. Aren't you special?
- Beyond this extra information, you have a night action as well. Ever night, you may target another player, learning the day effect triggered by their death. You may of course choose to check yourself for day effects as well.
You are Rule 10, Townie Hammer Bro.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- As a rule partially revolving around hammers, you are rather proficient with them. As a result, you may go to another player's house during the night phase and proceed to bash their skull in, killing them. Unfortunately, your hammer is prone to breaking, so using this ability will cause you to lose both of your abillities.
- Your hammer is useful for more than just murdering people. If you are attacked overnight, you will automatically fight off your attacker and live to see the next day. However, this will result in your hammer breaking, causing you to lose both of your abilities.
AutobalanceIn hindsight, this role was overpowered. I created with the intention that the player would get into a slight claim conflict with the other protective town role (Hourai's Magical Barrier) or the other town killing role (Schezo's Riot Leading), but that did not work out very well due to the difference in nature of the two abilities. Furthermore, it gave players an extra option on how to abuse Hourai's day effect and was possibly a bit too good for fearmongering (which Edible took advantage of). If I could go back, I think I would try to find a way to slightly weaken its bulletproof somehow, or just scrap it all together.
If it is currently impossible for town to reach 3P lylo barring a day or night with no deaths, the living player who has accumulated the least votes over the course of the game will be given a compulsory one-shot nightvig.
You are the Addendum, Townie Chattering Bird.Probably caused the biggest mod screw-ups this game. I personally liked the idea behind this role, but I did a horrible, horrible job writing up the role PM and even forgot to mention some things that I was sure I had already mentioned earlier on. Also sadface at the lack of a chained posting restriction or voteblock, that would have been hilarious.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- In correlation with the rule (or rather, addendum of a rule) you are, you love talking to people! In fact, you love chatting so much that your entire role revolves around speaking with others. During the night phase, you may choose another player to link yourself to. You will then be allowed to talk to that player outside the game thread in a quick topic that I will link you and your target to. This will last until your target dies, at which point you will be allowed to target somebody else. It is entirely possible for you to strike up a conversation with scum, so be careful.
- Your linking methods have a side effect as well. The player you are currently able to talk with will become tied to you, and any non-killing actions that target one of you will target the other as well, so keep that in mind.
You are Rule 7, Townie Ranting Doublevoter.Another role that I'm sad never fully saw the light of day. While it sounded like a gag at first, it actually had a fair amount of uses due to the amount of vote-related day effects, such as Kingmaker, Blessing and Town Riot. I think it would have been especially valuable in the latter of the three had Zak been around before deadline to use it, but alas, people let Bard self-hammer.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated. Best of luck!
- You despise No Lynches and lynch ties, having seen scum slip out of your grip too many times due to them. As a result, you are doing all you can to prevent any from happening this game, in the form of a double vote. To properly use this double vote, the entire post containing your vote must be a rant condemning lynch ties and especially no lynches. It is required to be at least 100 words long, and each paragraph must involve some sort of non-game related attack on lynch ties and no lynches. (By non-game related, I mean that the insults and/or complaints must have nothing to do with the game at hand. Ridiculous past accounts that probably never actually happened are recommended. Basically, the more hammy and overall ridiculous your post is, the better.)
- If you're not sure if a post would succesfully count as a double vote, feel free to PM it to me ahead of time and I'll give you an answer. If no attempt at a rant is made, then your vote will of course only count as one.
You are Rule 9, Scum Tetris Block.Generic scum jack, except all his abilities were based on blocking. See, it's clever because he's named Tetris Block and could roleblock ~four times~!
Your abilities are as follows:You win when the number of scum is greater than or equal to the number of remaining townies. Best of luck!
- You are a member of the scum team! Your allies consist of Conqueror, playing Rule 1, Scum Restricting Rolecop, and Bardiche, playing Rule 3, Scum Remote Virus. You may talk to them at any time in this quicktopic. (http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/9qxKHugPL3NkN) Naturally, you may also choose to execute the scum nightkill and take out a player of your choice if none of your buddies are already doing so.
- It's only natural that you'd be scum, being a rule allowing mafia to trick innocent townies into thinking that their doctor was succesful. You have a fair amount of tricks up your sleeve that you have previously devised when coming up with methods to fake a lack of nightkills, and you may use them against the town. However, each of your night actions will only work once, so use them wisely.
- Your first night action is a standard roleblock. Your target will fail to use their role overnight. This affects some passive roles as well.
- Your second night action is a voteblock. Your target will fail to vote the following day. They will not be informed that they were voteblocked. This ability does not work in LYLO.
- Your third night action is an information corruptor. Any informative roles that attempt to learn about your target will fizzle out.
- Your fourth night action is a wildcard. You may use it to re-use any one of your other night actions.
You are Rule 1, Scum Restricting Rolecop.Ohhh boy. I personally love posting restrictions, so this was fun to come up with. The role name and day effect were deliberately chosen so that the two non-tracker informative roles could actually potentially catch scum without the dumb luck of nabbing them on a fakeclaim. It was a bit misleading, however, since the role wasn't a rolecop in the strictest sense.
Your abilities are as follows:You win when the number of scum is greater than or equal to the number of remaining townies. Best of luck!
- You are a member of the scum team! Your allies consist of Polaris, playing Rule 9, Scum Tetris Block, and Bardiche, playing Rule 3, Scum Remote Virus. You may talk to them at any time in this quicktopic. (http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/9qxKHugPL3NkN) Naturally, you may also choose to execute the scum nightkill and take out a player of your choice if none of your buddies are already doing so.
- By abusing loopholes in the rule you represent, you may have the mod give another player a posting restriction to follow during the following day through the night action command ##Bind (Player Name). This restriction will wear off after a day. Your target will be informed that something beneficial to scum will happen if they fail to abide by it, though it will be guaranteed that it is not a modkill.
- You are expected to fully detail the restriction you want to assign your target to do when PMing me your night action, because I am not going to make these things up for you. The only restrictions are that it must not interfere with the way the player uses their role/vote or make it impossible for them to properly and/or truthfully communicate their thoughts. As an example, "quote the song "Let's Get It On" by Marvin Gaye in every paragraph you post in-thread" would be an acceptable restriction to assign to a player. "Only use the words "herp" and "derp" when posting" would not.
- To make your ability a little more rewarding, if your target breaks their posting restriction, not only will they be roleblocked during the following nightphase, but you will be given full information regarding their role. This includes any mod-notes related to it.
You are Rule 3, Scum Remote VirusGenerally intended to be a huge bastard role. I think I overestimated it, actually - it wasn't supposed to exactly be a reliable, powerful role for scum, but I hadn't noticed how easy it could potentially screw over the scum who used it. It did succesfully cause some confusion on D2, at least, which was really fun to watch from a modding PoV.
Your abilities are as follows:On further review (read: I just re-read a role PM I wrote ages ago and it looks stupid but I don't have time to re-write it), I... think I might not have explained this role very well. Feel free to ask me questions if it's unclear.
- You are a member of the scum team! Your allies consist of Polaris, playing Rule 9, Scum Tetris Block, and Conqueror, playing Rule 1, Scum Restricting Rolecop. You may talk to them at any time in this quicktopic. (http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/9qxKHugPL3NkN) Naturally, you may also choose to execute the scum nightkill and take out a player of your choice if none of your buddies are already doing so.
- Being the no-good scum you are, you may break the latter half of the rule you represent and speak your thoughts during the night phase! Which... doesn't actually have much of an effect beyond potentially furthering your scummy agenda if you're convincing enough. Luckily, this is not the only trick you have up your sleeve.
- If out-of-thread contact was not actually banned, it would soon create chaos, so why not twist the game to create some chaos of your own? You are currently infected with a virus, which you are obligated to pass on to another player at night through the command ##Twist (Player). This command also doubles as a bus driver: people who target the player who used ##Twist will instead target said player's target, and vise versa. Players infected with this virus are required to use the command ##Twist over any other night actions they might have, as using the command is the only way they can remove the virus, giving it priority over all their other actions. While the flavor will imply some sort of negative redirecting effect, they will not be told of any of its effects.
- As a warning, you will have no control over this virus whatsoever after initially passing it on, meaning it could potentially bite your alignment in the back later. Additionally, if you ever end up dead, the ##Twist command will be removed from circulation entirely.
- One more thing: players with killing roles are allowed to nightkill and pass on the virus in the same night, making it the only action in the game that can be used alongside a nightkill. This does not make the virus an effective alibi, however: all targeted players will be told this fact in the PM informing them of their infection, even if they do not have a killing role.
- As ridiculous and generally disruptive as this role probably sounds, you can take solace in the knowledge that it is mod-guaranteed to be the most bastard-esque role in the game, meaning that it should hopefully not get any worse than this. Whether this knowledge is worth sharing with your buddies or not is up to you to decide.
You win when the number of scum is greater than or equal to the number of remaining townies. Best of luck!
Edible's playstyle: :yukkuri:
##take it easyYou succesfully take it easy overnight! :yukkuri:
Is approximately what I will do tonight.
Additionally, you find the following extremely threatening message inside your mailbox on the next morning.
"Dear Bardiche,
You had best start playing nice now, ya hear?
There's nothing wrong with trying to squeeze a little info out of them scum bastards, but if yer not gonna be courteous about it...
Well, let's just say that a certain individual might be met with an unfortunate accident, you know how these things just happen.
Now we're all buddies here, hunting scum and all that jazz, so you best be playing nice."
Furthermore, you have been infected by a virus that forces you to use the night action ##Twist on another player tonight to remove your infection. You are not entirely sure what this action does, but it sure doesn't sound good.
You may not use any other night action alongside ##Twist, with the exception of killing actions.
You cannot take it easy like this. :(
Comments? This is my first time finishing hosting a role madness game on a site where the players aren't complete retards, so I would like some advice for the future, at least.
I'm kinda curious what my death effect was.Row Clear, which reduced the time in the day by 10 hours.
Pesco probably would have raged at me even more if it ever actually took place.
And get your co-mods to proofread the PMs and such if you find that a problem. What is NeoSerela doing there anyway? :VI had two co-mods and both of them barely said anything about the set-up or role PMs at all :<
In general I thought you did a pretty good job with the roles, although I agree scum was underpowered - perhaps get more people to review the setup?
If you ever want an example of how not to run role madness, look at any game Ramus hosts.I wasn't around for the old forums and the archive appears to be down, so I have no way of doing so. :s
You cannot take it easy like this. :(
In that particular instance it was like being threatened by someone else's junk mail.Yes, I found that particularly hilarious.
Whatever, I still claim additional victory on the fact that all the people in LYLO possessed a letter from me.
Post 'em!
Dear Bardiche,
You had best start playing nice now, ya hear?
There's nothing wrong with trying to squeeze a little info out of them scum bastards, but if yer not gonna be courteous about it...
Well, let's just say that a certain individual might be met with an unfortunate accident, you know how these things just happen.
Now we're all buddies here, hunting scum and all that jazz, so you best be playing nice.
Dear Zakeri,
Did you really think that I wouldn't notice your convenient absence at the end of the day?
Did you really think that yer absence would go by unnoticed?
Try to pull any crap like that again and maybe you'll find yer absence turns a little more permanent, ya hear?
Dear Iced Fairy,
Did ya think that relying on yer pathetic excuse of joining late would hold up forever?
Because I know what you were doing before this hunt started.
I know what yer did.
And if ya don't start cleaning up yer act, who knows what tragic accidents might occur.
You found the following ~extremely threatening~ message inside your mailbox:
"Dear Schezo,
Pulling a fast one on Hourai there, are yer?
Can't say I blame ya for that, he probably had it coming.
But, ya know, there's a code of conduct we should be going by when we're hunting scum.
We gotta keep civilized 'cuz you know what happens if we don't?
Anarchy. And in anarchy, everyone becomes scum.
So let's keep our actions nice and courteous, lest some unforeseeable tragedy happen to a certain individual in the near future."
Edible - ##Kill Shadoweh (Fail)*teaspit.jpg*
## take it easy*has already teaspit.jpg*
Can I ask at this moment for you to go back to the basics and find what you were thinking earlier to be a guide to your actions?Since he didn't know about my cop yet he was completely in his rights to call me out for pretending to be insane.
DearMy logic for Hourai was true, he just happened toCrown BoySchezo.
Hello, this is Shadoweh! I guess someone could try to fake being me but really? Really. You have been chosen to receive this because well it was either you or Doll. First of all I should tell you I don't suspect Dormio because he doesn't realize he just claimed cop and cleared Edible from scum. Considering the info I have I'd be surprised if any of the scum role names don't involve 'Virus'.
First of all the reason for what happened with Hourai is so simple I can't believe it eluded me. No one was ever suposed to see the waffle move. See how in post 363 he said "Argh, I don't want scum anony voting." and voted, then after the votecount in post 371 said "It said that Doll had L-2!". The votecount in #356 was originally messed up, huh what had you still voting Doll (5 votes instead of 4) and said Doll was at L-2. Hourai thought when he voted for Doll it was the hammer. If this plan had worked Bardiche would've been able to hard bus his fiercest opponent Zakeri the next day as the vote that "must have moved" OR YOU because "obviously it was a scum gambit to save scum Schezo". Note that Hanged Hourai and Conqueror are also the ones that helped Bardiche hammer himself.
Oh, did I mention Conqueror is scum? Because Conqueror is scum. I checked him last night and not only is his day effect named Virus Outbreak but he gives out a POST RESTRICTION when he dies to everyone. Also check out the way he's trying to get Dormio lynched instead of going for the easy Hourai wagon. Now I don't know about you but I don't want another horrific post restriction written by Conqueror tomorrow so I propose we lynch Hourai today and not let Conqueror know we're onto him until he gets hit by a insta-lynch the next day.
If the game continues after we lynch these two as scum the highest probability is that Edible is a Third Party Survivor.
If you agree to this plan please make a post with the words "Oh and Shadoweh next time you get hit by a restriction that hard think of a name more manly then crown boy." I will make a post with the reply "Schezo: How does 'quit lynching yourself man' sound? :V"
I'm going to send you both of my flocks of birds now because I'm almost certain I can trust you at this point.I thought the first message was from Edible. It fit his take it easy style.
I sent you one earlier that said: *quotes earlier pm*
because I didn't know if I could trust you enough not to fall on me because you may have thought I was scum trying to lead you on. I wonder who you thought sent you that because I wanted it to be as ambiguous as possible, post game answer you know.
I decided not to answer that way to your plan in the thread even though I agree with it. I want you to just throw all that stuff out there on Hourai right now because I won't be back for a good post until ~5-10PM CST.
I may call Conqueror out a bit on my arguement on Hourai but I'll also try to paint Dormio in the same light so that he won't get too wary.
I hope I'm not the nightkill or you aren't either but we'll see.
So let's keep our actions nice and courteous, lest some unforeseeable tragedy happen to a certain individual in the near future.He actually died. D:
Quick post to say that I hope every single one of you on the PX wagon feels shame and disgust for even considering your vote, and I hope you all hang. A post-game discussion on what consists of a good D1 lynch and what doesn't is in order.
##vote pesco, because there ain't no gettin' offa this train that we on. Also to comply with the following:
I demand that every single player place a vote in their first post of the day. Anyone who does not have their vote on the table AT ALL TIMES should be instantly considered as scum.
I'll be back later. The townie riot ability is a boon if managed carefully.
Still waiting on this Edible
I wanted to play Anonymafia or at least Bastard Mod first because they were the most fun games to read.Well, I'd say this was a Bastard Mod game.
Shkannon had my favorite posts ever.wat
@Edible: But you vs. Pesco was just as much of a townie slapfight. x:
watClearly, you should channel your inner ZUN next mafia game you play.
I might as well have been drunk during that game. :P
(decision given to a random townie to cause confusion, had nothing to do with his role).It confused the hell out of me, at the very least. q_q
The mistakes I used against you as scum mainly came from your jumping to conclusions on bad evidence and tendency to repost facts instead of pulling the facts together.Well, I was going to post my (not-so) crackpot theory about you being scum through the process of elimination. (If Edible isn't scum, it must be Iced Fairy!)
I might as well have been drunk during that game. :P
I might as well have been drunk during that game. :P
But then DollS hammered me while I was playing DotS.I knew he would. It was pretty predictable. Which is why I put a big red "Do not do this" sign over my delay game button. To make me look slightly more town.
If only that's what was causing me to be all silly and unable to think right. :(You should drink more often
I knew he would. It was pretty predictable. Which is why I put a big red "Do not do this" sign over my delay game button. To make me look slightly more town.Gddmt DollS.
I had two co-mods and both of them barely said anything about the set-up or role PMs at all :<Hey hey, you hired me for the votecounts.
...In retrospect, maybe I should have counted votes more than about 2 or 3 times.I would have too, but I kept becoming incredibly sick or having to babysit every single time a day started :V
Ah, so you liked the posts after I became Schizophrenia-nee-chan-kun. :P Most of those weren't written by me (or at least not 100% me, I made sure to send them to bofh before posting for proofreading, and even THEN I managed to derp things up with some of his posts :V).No, I liked all of them, but you make awesome Hydras. bofh being my third favorite helped though. (I need to find whatever channel you guys talk on so I can stop chatting about other games in the current one.)
I love that avatar ;^; It helps when he does things like:p.much
Doll: "I FOUND A CASE!"
> Present: Why did you stop talking about the Conqueror jokevote wagon?!
## Vote Shadoweh!Did I do good? *beam beam*
I haven't lurked on any channels lately. Only one I really go on right now is the DotS chan, but I haven't been on there lately because I haven't been able to play. Ironically enough, I quit lurking on #meido because I got sick of people going OMG KITTEN4U IS TALKING/SHOULD STOP LURKING!!!!!!!! :V
No, I liked all of them, but you make awesome Hydras. bofh being my third favorite helped though. (I need to find whatever channel you guys talk on so I can stop chatting about other games in the current one.)
Doll was Moe Maker of Muppets because I had decided his Day 1 attempt at a case was too cute to be anything but him trying really, really hard. I really don't think Doll should play more Mafia and I mean this in the kindest way. You're too nice. Mafia is a game for liars and sharks.
Kitten x Shadoweh. Don't deny you guys want it, and pics :VGODDAMNIT I CAN'T DRINK TEA AROUND YOU PEOPLE!
ilu Doll~
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9963/avatar26611298118061.jpg)
PM to huh what: "oh my god. what's a preposition?!?"I kind of thought the same thing :V
"Start all sentences with a present participle."