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Title: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 14, 2010, 11:20:32 PM
Well, now that many of our favorite series this fall are in episode 10 or 11, it is coming near the time to bid adieu to the fall season. So I decided to head on over to Cart Driver and take a look at what the Winter 2011 season had in store.

Ye gods what a mess. (http://thecartdriver.com/winter-2011-anime-season-preview/) I see literally nothing here that interests me at all. Gosick maybe, and possibly Houkago no Pleiades, if for no other reason than it's the brainchild of Gainax and car manufacturers Subaru. But beyond that, the pickings are so slim I might end up watching Season 2 of Kimi no Todoke.

There's also apparently going to be a DVD special of Baka to Test in February, which should be fun.

Discuss series you're looking forward to and/or following for the Winter 2011 season here. Fire away!
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Matsuri on December 14, 2010, 11:24:23 PM
Both of the noitaminA shows look like they're worth checking out. Then again, I'm awfully behind on everything :P
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: JT on December 14, 2010, 11:31:46 PM
It's not a series, but this looks like it might be cool. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRsafFf-brw) Cars! Explosions! Yelling! Heavy shading! Dinosaur on rollerskates!
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: theshirn on December 14, 2010, 11:41:36 PM
Ye gods what a mess. (http://thecartdriver.com/winter-2011-anime-season-preview/) I see literally nothing here that interests me at all. Gosick maybe
This.  My god.  I hate all of humanity a little bit more just for seeing the lineup.  Gosick at least looks like it might be interesting.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Reddyne on December 15, 2010, 12:16:02 AM
There's a handful of things I might check out. Even if things just aren't suited for my tastes, I'm quite satisfied with how the current season is going, so I'll be thankful for what I've been able to enjoy recently.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 15, 2010, 12:20:38 AM
Both of the noitaminA shows look like they're worth checking out. Then again, I'm awfully behind on everything :P

And to be sure, noitaminA has never let me down. Which will be the only reason why I'll be giving those two shows a shot, because they're synopses didn't really make me sit up and take notice.

On the other hand, I love being surprised. The way I see it, when you have a season like this, where you don't see much that really stands out, you can't go wrong just watching ... everything. Worst case scenario, you lose 24 minutes of your life. But that's going to happen anyway, and in the best case, you might find a hidden treasure. Hell, Bakuman sounded dead boring to me until Jigglypuff here asked in the Fall 2010 thread why it wasn't getting more attention, so I check it out and surprise - it's one of the five series I'm following.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on December 15, 2010, 12:47:16 AM
Fractale's two stills look like the art for Mushi Futari and Ghibli respectiveily, so there's no way I'm not watching the first episode at least. noitaminA is a good sign, Yamakan is not necessarily a good sign. Hopefully he won't "ruin" it, and hopefully he kicks it if this series flops because it's one of the only things I'm currently intrigued by.

Gosick would interest me if it weren't done by all the wrong people.

Tailenders doesn't look interesting whatsoever and I'm not fond of the coloring but it looks so over-the-top and Gainax-y that I'm bound to check it out. I'm seeing various tones of F-Zero in there too. Looks like it'll be the popular-by-hype-but-not-actually-popular show of the season.

Wandering Son looks pretty in terms of artwork but probably will be really boring and have lots of blank space and generally won't be interesting to me.

My friend will go bonkers about Quantum so I'll probably end up watching that.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on December 15, 2010, 01:05:48 AM
Fractale and Gosick look a bit interesting, but for the most part, I think this season will be the season for me to catch up on old anime. :P
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on December 15, 2010, 01:29:49 AM
There is plenty of interesting shows, what you all prejudxxks about?

I am looking forward to Is It A Zombie, for the sole reason of asking: "Well, is it?!"
"LOLIDUNNO"
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 15, 2010, 01:39:57 AM
Catching up on old shows is always a good idea. I finished Let's Nupu Nupu, Trapeze and was apparently the last person to see the Black Rock Shooter OVA while following this fall's stuff. Granted, the LNN is only 88 minutes long.

I still need to finish Bakemonogatari, too (I've only gotten as far as ep 3). So, there's that. And at least there's noitaminA.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on December 15, 2010, 01:43:50 AM
Wandering Son is my favorite manga ever, so :V

also Kimi ni Todoke 2  :*
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on December 15, 2010, 02:18:08 AM
Well, I've had Arakawa Under the Bridge recommended to me about a million times, and I know you liked it too, Ammy. :)
After that, I'm not sure what else I want to watch, but there will be time.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on December 15, 2010, 05:28:52 AM
Winter season?

IS A PIECE OF GARBAGE. Mostly.

First of all, why the hell did they decide to give Rio her own anime?
Secondly, they're continuing Queen's Blade?
Thirdly, what's with the 2nd season of Mitsudomoe? It's not needed.

Indeed, this season looks like a piece of shit. Only a bunch of things from there I can find interest in, I'm definitely checking out Fractale and Gosick, and I want to see if Tailenders is worth watching, but that's about it. Beelzebub and Nyaruko are both things i have mixed feelings on but ehhhh. Not enough to counteract the garbage.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on December 15, 2010, 06:10:46 AM
Nyaruko is.... not even an anime as far as I am concerned that a 4 minute in joke flash animation done in classrooms.
seriously.


but I am somewhat interested in that Stratos thing, looks like cool mecha, and doesn't smell quite Strike Witches.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on December 15, 2010, 06:23:51 AM
Kimi ni Todoke 2  :*

Noto! : :toot:
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on December 15, 2010, 08:02:41 AM
There's enough anime on my TO-WATCH list to last me until the industry picks up again

w-which it will
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on December 15, 2010, 06:16:08 PM
I guess if the Japanese government doesn't kill off anime, it will just do so itself :smug:
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Grand Octopus on December 15, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
Nothing there I'll bother watching until the season's over. Wandering Son has a nice aesthetic style but will probably bore the bollocks off me. May keep an eye on Houk?ago no Pleides because Gainax. Tailenders looks like Wacky Races on steroids and may therefore also be worth a look at some point.

Ugh, it's depressing to see so much crap get released without issue while Despera hangs in limbo.

Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Moerin on December 15, 2010, 07:51:14 PM
Gosick looks somewhat
Interesting.  Other than
That, though... Nothing.  Sigh.

Also that is NOT
Wolverine.  Who do you think
You're kidding, Japan?
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 15, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
I guess if the Japanese government doesn't kill off anime, it will just do so itself :smug:

I know you're probably kidding, but as I've seen a number of well-meaning people flogging this meme, I feel the need to clarify:

THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT TRYING TO BAN ANIME AND MANGA. A city ordinance was passed in Tokyo that prohibits anyone under 18 from being able to buy anime, manga and games that fall under an open-ended definition of "depicting violence".

THAT'S IT. LET THIS MISINFORMATION DIE HERE.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on December 15, 2010, 09:30:48 PM
except that alone can deter a lot of old and new mangaka from making something at all, if it means they will be losing so many customers.

But the industry is already in decline so who knows if we will even see a difference
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on December 15, 2010, 09:42:42 PM
Basically it means NO FANSERVICE EVERRR.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on December 15, 2010, 10:12:36 PM
It's only in Tokyo, it doesn't go into effect until July, so there's time to repeal it, nothing of value was lost, maybe they'll start making good anime now, etc. etc.

I wanted to say that most of these shows looked pretty dang neat-o, but I want to be in the cool kids club, so they all look like pretty dang boring now. BV
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 15, 2010, 11:28:52 PM
Yes, let's talk some more about the thread's subject.

I've given it some thought and I now believe Fractale looks like it will be very good. If I can somehow manage to wring two series out of this pile, I will be very happy.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on December 16, 2010, 12:31:43 AM
Fan of Hourou Musuko, so I'll keep an eye on that. Other than that I have no idea what these series are about so I'll wait to hear some reactions.

Meanwhile I really need to start looking into catching up on anime. For some reason I just can't bring myself to do so (probably because I tend to prefer manga for whatever reason).

Speaking of old series I remember liking what little I've read of Kimi no Todoke; maybe I'll check out the first season and then see about the second if it holds up.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on December 16, 2010, 01:42:09 AM
Fan of Hourou Musuko, so I'll keep an eye on that.
I'm curious to how well Chiba is gonna transfer into animation. Part of why I love her is the way her facial expressions are drawn. Her eyes <3
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Alice★f on December 17, 2010, 05:01:18 AM
Anybody got a chart?

Damn, Japan amazes me each time. I haven't even seen half of what I was supposed to during the Fall Quarter!

No matter what happens, I must at least finish MM, PSG and Ore no Imouto ^_^
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on December 17, 2010, 05:09:34 AM
half of the summer season will be 18+ shows struggling to finish before the new broadcast measures in April.
I think.

well, I hope at the very least this will not damage the aspiring animation newcomers from making their debut in the industry.
I see hope in that Stratos show, and most of all, because Anathe mentioned it, I think I will check out Wandering Son to see how it is. The artstyle reminds me of Soramachi, so I guess it should be worth checking out.
Meanwhile, Seikon no Qwaser apparently signed on a second season of SM abuse and boob sucking.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 17, 2010, 01:54:46 PM
Anybody got a chart?

Damn, Japan amazes me each time. I haven't even seen half of what I was supposed to during the Fall Quarter!

No matter what happens, I must at least finish MM, PSG and Ore no Imouto ^_^

Here's a chart (http://thecartdriver.com/charts/), but the link I posted in the OP has better synopses, and trailers.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on December 17, 2010, 02:19:04 PM
I've given it some thought and I now believe Fractale looks like it will be very good. If I can somehow manage to wring two series out of this pile, I will be very happy.

That doesn't seem like it'd be very hard, but only if you really tried. I mean, I don't see a lot of good coming out this season. A lot of anime that didn't need it got second seasons and/or continuations. They don't really seem to me like they have room or potential to carry on the original first season. Secondly, there's a bunch of generic crap that immediately gets a "no" from me, things like Freezing, Dragon Crisis and Merry Dream Eater. Thirdly, who decided it would be a good idea to give Rio her own anime, again? She's just some poster girl for a bunch of pachinko and casino games. Occasionally, people make hentai flashes or doujins of her. Big deal. I guess Japan must like her a lot. Lastly, I think I find it sad that out of those that do already interest me (Fractale and Gosick mainly), Usagigoya seems like it'd be the most endearing and nice to me out of the lot. Too bad I probably will never get an opportunity to sit down and actually watch it, though.

It's only in Tokyo, it doesn't go into effect until July, so there's time to repeal it, nothing of value was lost, maybe they'll start making good anime now, etc. etc.

Given the current trends in what kinds of anime people like and watch, and also the massive influence fujoshi have been having recently, I don't think it's safe to say that people will start making actual quality (and not QUALITY) anime any time soon.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on December 17, 2010, 05:11:12 PM
I think making good anime is not a pushing practice, I for one don't believe by labelling and pushing anime which is ecchi and boobs oriented to a corner translates to a season of 'better, deep, good storytelling' anime. It will certainly reduce the number of harem shows maybe, but it also might not.

imo, whatever the case, I'd wish that the law be repealed and challenged until they throw it out.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 17, 2010, 05:54:59 PM
Stop talking about the law already.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on December 17, 2010, 05:59:32 PM
Stop talking about the law already.
We will never stop talking about Yamalegs.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on December 17, 2010, 07:49:31 PM
Not as much this season as last season, but I'm probably gonna check out Madoka, Stratos, Beelzebub, and Zombie.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on December 18, 2010, 01:04:37 AM
a warning about Hourou Musuko/Wandering Son: If you have had issues with gender identity, some parts WILL be painful. But it will definitely make you care about the protagonist.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on December 18, 2010, 02:24:11 AM
a warning about Hourou Musuko/Wandering Son: If you have had issues with gender identity, some parts WILL be painful. But it will definitely make you care about the protagonist.

I wasn't aware we are all republicans.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on December 18, 2010, 02:29:00 AM
... Maybe he meant in the sense of having sexual identity issues.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on December 18, 2010, 03:24:10 AM
I was just joking, Ammy ...>_<

can we get an Arakawa Season 3  I wonder next year.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on December 20, 2010, 02:30:48 PM
There was a short trailer for Ao no Exorcist after Star Driver this week, and I am impressed by the quality, this looks like the guys who did DOGS and I reckon the story is Index like, but with Gantz and more serious DTB style storytelling.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 03, 2011, 09:52:13 PM
There'a a trailer out for Rio. Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this, but somehow this show looks even worse than I was expecting. Cleavage, bouncing boobs, an unattended loli running rampant in the casino. How does shit like this get green-lighted?
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 03, 2011, 10:10:46 PM
There'a a trailer out for Rio. Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this, but somehow this show looks even worse than I was expecting. Cleavage, bouncing boobs, an unattended loli running rampant in the casino. How does shit like this get green-lighted?

You know, I might be alone in this, but I think this type of anime is the reason why Haruhi was created - a show that simultaneously tries something fresh and new while at the same time satirizing overplayed anime tropes.

This stuff gets green-lighted because it's easy to make and it gets watched. It's the low-hanging fruit. Titties = eyes on the screen.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 04, 2011, 08:04:28 AM
Rozen Maiden Season 3 = never = >____________<
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Matsuri on January 04, 2011, 08:13:02 AM
Dammit, you got my hopes up from the first glance of your post :(
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Ryuu on January 04, 2011, 08:25:27 AM
I plan on ripping my heart apart with wandering son and then repairing it with kimi ni todoke 2


gosick and fractale are maybes


EDIT: also

Quote
Stu?pid shojo. I don?t think my prob?lem comes fun?da?ment?ally from the shojo genre as a whole. It?s the ste?reo?typ?ical shojo fair that I have no time for. That is what Kimi ni Todoke is, and I simply have no patience for that at all.

yesss I love sweeping generalizations that grossly underdefine a show and make it look bad to people who don't know what it is
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 04, 2011, 08:51:40 AM
Eh, I thought Kimi no Todoke wasn't exactly shojo but it did get pretty repetitive. Just how many times can you watch the protagonist gasp and launch into a reverie of flowers and butterflies every time someone so much as says "Hi" to her?

Also, not related to this season at all but it did make me smile:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/214cvh5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Ryuu on January 04, 2011, 09:07:50 AM
Eh, I thought Kimi no Todoke wasn't exactly shojo but it did get pretty repetitive. Just how many times can you watch the protagonist gasp and launch into a reverie of flowers and butterflies every time someone so much as says "Hi" to her?

Also, not related to this season at all but it did make me smile:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/214cvh5.jpg)

well yeah because it IS a shojo show. but the description is a heavily biased, bigoted point of view that reflects negatively upon a show just because the guy doesn't like that style of animu. imo if someone is going to summarize a season, they should at least fairly describe each show instead of acting like a jackass.


also that pic made me lol because it's true
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 04, 2011, 10:45:17 AM
That is true; if you're problem is with a genre - or the "standard fare" of said genre - then just don't review it. Good critics review tons of genres they don't actually care for, but they judge it on the merits of the genre's expectations. Like, if I don't like action films, I can still recognize what the elements of a "good" action film are supposed to be, and critique an action film based on those criteria. If a critic hates a genre so much that they just can't do this, then they should just avoid reviewing anything from that genre altogether.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on January 04, 2011, 11:39:09 AM
There'a a trailer out for Rio. Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this, but somehow this show looks even worse than I was expecting. Cleavage, bouncing boobs, an unattended loli running rampant in the casino. How does shit like this get green-lighted?

This is Rio we're talking about here, I don't think it's possible to expect anything better than what you're already seeing.

Given that her game series is pretty much pachinko with boobs and lolis. ::)

You know, I might be alone in this, but I think this type of anime is the reason why Haruhi was created - a show that simultaneously tries something fresh and new while at the same time satirizing overplayed anime tropes.

I guess Haruhi does the satirizing thing pretty well? I didn't find it quite as fresh and entertaining as a lot of folks did though... I guess I might have been spoiled by the Haruhu print media >_>

well yeah because it IS a shojo show. but the description is a heavily biased, bigoted point of view that reflects negatively upon a show just because the guy doesn't like that style of animu.

Yeah, seriously. While stuff like that is kinda sad to see... I can't really defend the show that roughly either... I personally found the anime a huge snoozefest in comparison to the manga, but that's just my personal taste talking here and I'm not really looking to pick any fights here. >_>
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 04, 2011, 12:01:11 PM
I guess Haruhi does the satirizing thing pretty well? I didn't find it quite as fresh and entertaining as a lot of folks did though... I guess I might have been spoiled by the Haruhu print media >_>

Which reminds me: I still haven't seen the movie yet, nor the second Eden of the East movie. So with Bakuman going still, and Bakemonogatari to catch up on, Gosick and Fractale is more than enough for me to follow right now.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 04, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
I guess Haruhi does the satirizing thing pretty well? I didn't find it quite as fresh and entertaining as a lot of folks did though... I guess I might have been spoiled by the Haruhu print media >_>
Speaking of which, whatever happened to that? I still haven't heard anything about volume 10. :/
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on January 04, 2011, 09:26:31 PM
The 10th volume of the Haruhi Series, The Surprise of Haruhi Suzumiya, is set for a 2 volume release on May 25th, 2011. Thirteen other countries are set to release translated copies on the same day.
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/461520.jpg
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh419/dtshyk/ayamari.jpg
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 04, 2011, 09:29:04 PM
 :o
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 05, 2011, 12:25:15 AM
why did I even bother with Rio?
my head just died.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on January 05, 2011, 05:22:55 AM
I admit most of my fandom of Haruhi comes from the novels, which I read over the course of winter break 2007. I haven't read all of the 9th one :/
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 05, 2011, 08:58:13 AM
Just why exactly isn't there an anime with art directed by Akira-sensei (or with UDK) with focus on the cross dressing boys of Cherry Girls cast, along with a musical score worthy of Kanon/Air/Key in general being made? Actually, scratch that, why is Cherry Girls not yet even a comic book?!

I can't wait for Infinite Stratos, after looking at the PV I am confirmed this will be a silent hit, (maybe something Strike Witches even, spanning a few seasons long simply because it can).

So far, Lovecraftian 4 minute short Nyaruko is somewhat disappointing, aside from the ED song, which I find hardly appealing enough... it is getting all... uninspired. Thank god for lovecraftian references.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Helix ⑨ on January 05, 2011, 08:27:40 PM
What is up with this Rio thing.
A whole (nude) transformation scene to get some cards out of a deck? o.O
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Whatthe on January 05, 2011, 08:38:39 PM
What is up with this Rio thing.
A whole (nude) transformation scene to get some cards out of a deck? o.O

Perhaps they're hoping life will imitate art.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on January 05, 2011, 09:50:42 PM
I expected Rio to be nothing but retarded fanservice. I got what I paid for and loved it.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on January 06, 2011, 05:37:10 AM
Just why exactly isn't there an anime with art directed by Akira-sensei (or with UDK) with focus on the cross dressing boys of Cherry Girls cast, along with a musical score worthy of Kanon/Air/Key in general being made? Actually, scratch that, why is Cherry Girls not yet even a comic book?!
I fail to understand as well. It is a step above cockblock ecchi.

Hnng, just thinking about them. So cute @__@

Also, Wandering Son airs in like 10 days  :*
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on January 06, 2011, 09:25:38 AM
I expected Rio to be nothing but retarded fanservice. I got what I paid for and loved it.

Well, only if you're into that sort of thing. :getdown:

What is up with this Rio thing.
A whole (nude) transformation scene to get some cards out of a deck? o.O

This is Rio we're talking about.

Give her games a shot some time.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 06, 2011, 09:58:37 AM
I expected Rio to be nothing but retarded fanservice. I got what I paid for and loved it.

Yes. this is the same as QB, you might notice QB spawned 3 seasons and counting. FUCK YOUR CRITICISM I HAVE TITS.
I fail to understand as well. It is a step above cockblock ecchi.

Hnng, just thinking about them. So cute @__@

Also, Wandering Son airs in like 10 days  :*

I sort of hoped 2010 would bring in at least 1 trap anime, A WHOLE TRAP ANIME, ALL CASTED AS TRAPS.
you know. I mean, it was the year for it.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Naut on January 06, 2011, 08:14:23 PM
Just watched episode one of Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

It's pretty much Nanoha x LSD

Fuckin' awesome
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Wark on January 07, 2011, 03:47:37 PM
Have just watched the first episode of Yumekui Merry.

For now we have an adorable main heroine, nice opening supported by some good musical pieces during the show itself and setting that may or may not result in an interesting story. The show may actually turn out to be quite enjoyable, provided that doesn't slip into regular school/fanservice stuff, and instead focuses on the few main characters and develops the idea of the
dream world
. At least the first episode was good enough to ensure that I will be waiting for the next one. After "Otome Youkai Zakuro", which unexpectedly became one of my favorites in the Fall season, I certainly wouldn't mind another surprise from J.C.Staff.

Also, there are cats. Lots of cats.
 
 (http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/466/coolcatcrop.jpg)

Some interesting facts (you may already know them, but still):

-The author of the original "Yumekui Merry" manga is Yoshitaka Ushiki, who is also the author of the quite famous "Advent Cirno" (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/One_Night_Stand) series.
-The opening theme for the anime is sung by Marina Fujiwara and composed by void from IOSYS, while the ending is sung by Ayane Sakura, Merry's voice actor, and composed by ARM and minami from IOSYS.

Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 07, 2011, 06:00:25 PM
Just watched episode one of Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

It's pretty much Nanoha x LSD

Fuckin' awesome
One of these days I really need to watch Nonoha and find out what all the hype is about.

That said I did watch Madoka after reading this, and was pleasantly surprised. It's a nice mix of cute, dark, and outright weird. Hopefully it can remain entertaining for the rest of the season, but we'll just have to wait and see about that.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Matsuri on January 07, 2011, 06:35:00 PM
Okay, this is the Winter 2011 thread, but I didn't feel like making a new thread for this:

I have mentioned multiple times that one of my favorite manga series is Usagi Drop, and I tend to fanboy about it whenever I pickup a volume and whatnot. However, I just got news today that it's getting an anime adaptation by Production IG, and will be airing on noitaminA this summer (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-07/noitamina-to-air-usagi-drop-no-6-in-july).

In other words, :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :* :*
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on January 07, 2011, 06:39:23 PM
Usagi Drop

<3
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on January 08, 2011, 12:57:02 AM
Dammit, why is SHAFT so awesome?

Just finished the first episode of Madoka.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Hanged Hourai on January 08, 2011, 01:16:18 AM
In Gosick, do you think the subs are saying her name right? They say Victorique, but her name sounds more like Victorica to me.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Widermelonz on January 08, 2011, 01:44:59 AM
Wow, Madoka has a bunch of my favorite character voices. As soon as a character spoke her first sentence I went "oh hey, I know that voice."

It's pretty much Nanoha x LSD

Oh hey, its a little animal telepathically calling out to the main character for help. Cue acid trip woaaah.

Damn I like this show already. Thank you SHAFT.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 08, 2011, 07:40:55 AM
Well, Gosick's off to a fine start. The crime solved in the first half of the episode seemed a little obvious to me, and Inspector Blois is a pretty ridiculous character, but it ended on an intriguing note. Intriguing enough for me to want to watch the next one, anyway.

I tried giving Madoka a chance, but I was bored silly by the time I got halfway through. Merry held my attention through the first episode, but the characters seem forced and contrived. Both dropped.

Here's hoping for the best with Fractale which, at the very least, should be visually stunning.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 08, 2011, 08:01:10 AM
Just watched Gosick, and I love the feel of the first episode.The first murder was predictable
(it's funny when the obvious suspect actually is the murderer)
.  It took a little while to click, but Vitorique is simply adorable so that helped a lot. Going to definitely keep my eye on it.

Quote from: Amaterasu
I tried giving Madoka a chance, but I was bored silly by the time I got halfway through.
To be fair, it really doesn't pick up until the final 5 minutes or so. Still I doubt most of the series will be at that pace so I understand dropping it. It earned a second episode out of me at least.


Usagi Drop anime
Quote from: Satori Komatsuri
:*
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on January 09, 2011, 01:32:08 AM
Madoka is about as expected, I'll keep watching it.

I loved Yumekui Merry.  Everything about it rubs me the right way.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 09, 2011, 03:24:07 AM
As expected, Gosick is awesome, and unsurprisingly, it seems people don't like Infinite Stratos, which is in my opinion pretty cool. Freezing gave an impression of sci-fi Ikkitousen, and also oneesan-fetish and now I am looking forward to watching Stein; gate.

Yumekui Merry seems quite enjoyable, I haven't watched it so far but I just might.
I have no interest in Magical Girl shows so I am just saving Madoka up for much later when there is nothing to watch. (I have PSG to watch since it is as predicted somewhere in the bargain bin already)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on January 09, 2011, 03:35:48 PM
it seems people don't like Infinite Stratos, which is in my opinion pretty cool.
I found that weird too as the first episode was pretty enjoyable, but its probably the harem-esque setting thats turning people off of it.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 09, 2011, 04:12:17 PM
I found that weird too as the first episode was pretty enjoyable, but its probably the harem-esque setting thats turning people off of it.

and people shouldn't be, this show along with Freezing boast a good cast of VAs (especially that black haired girl which I am pretty sure is voiced by P-Ko's VA) and the action looks very promising with full 3D rendition and smooth silky movements. Freezing and IS are both on my watch list because likewise, what I watch =  shows people whine about the ecchi or pointlessness of it because lol harem set ups.

My opinion: chew before you spit it out.
IS already made better impressions on me than Daimaou did, and its robotic action although not believable reminds me greatly of Choco sensei's superb robotic art, as for Freezing, I am impressed by the manga since its beginnings and I am fairly certain it is underappreciated. Also noted Freezing is probably one of the few truly anime-oriented style Korean Manhwa. (because Winter Sonata does not count) which I feel is pretty good a reason to watch it. This is especially true because they cannot animate classic violent manhwa like Boichi and so on. (Those are so violent you can show it on TV)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Prody on January 10, 2011, 10:55:31 PM
The most viewed anime on whatever's up on Nico channel so far is Cardfight!! Vanguard and Rio Rainbowgate.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on January 11, 2011, 12:16:10 AM
The most viewed anime on whatever's up on Nico channel so far is Cardfight!! Vanguard and Rio Rainbowgate.
Nico viewers sure have excellent taste
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on January 11, 2011, 12:18:48 AM
Kore wa Zombie is officially awesome.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 11, 2011, 04:46:29 AM
Cardfight! doesn't seem without merit, though it smells of cardgame anime like Yugioh.

Kore was Zombie is indeed, seemingly wonderful.
whoever said this season sucks should behead themselves for prejudice. There is nothing wrong with this season, some are good, some are woe, but otherwise okay. Come July however, ahahahaha.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 11, 2011, 06:24:38 AM
I find the praise funny, because I feel Kore wa Zombie has a fitting name; I found it brainless.* :V

/me  is shot

OK that's mean, but really one thing I know I've said before, a long time ago, is disliking "fanservice for the sake of fanservice". When you try too hard it shows, and this show is straddling the line at points.

But alas, I can look past that and look at the show's other qualities. The humor earned some chuckles, but mostly fell flat. The
genderbender transformation
scene was both hilarious and very....erotic. Over-violent magic girl was funny, but ruined by being fanservice fodder. Overall it's obvious I'm not the target audience for this show. Which is really, really disappointing, because I usually love zombies, dark humor, and
genderbending
.

May pick it up again after a few more episodes, but definitely dropped for a bit.


As for the season as a whole, I still have 1-2 more series to check out, but it can be no worse than .500 for me, which is good considering how slammed it was going in.


*Yes I know zombies aren't brainless shut up.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 11, 2011, 06:41:56 AM
I find the praise funny, because I feel Kore wa Zombie has a fitting name; I found it brainless.* :V

/me  is shot

OK that's mean, but really one thing I know I've said before, a long time ago, is disliking "fanservice for the sake of fanservice". When you try too hard it shows, and this show is straddling the line at points.

I lost all reason to watch this show at about two and half minutes in. Dude gets hit by a truck, and as he flies through the air, hits tree after tree, losing an article of clothing each time. Naked except for his socks as he's still flying through the air, we see a pair of girls witnessing this, screaming, and are given a double upskirt panty shot at the same time.

Thanks, but no thanks. To me, this is like Porky's or, more recently, any of the American Pie movies in anime format. I can see the potential in this show and all, but the overly slapstick ecchi gags are just a little too much for me.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 11, 2011, 07:31:13 AM
Finished my initial watchlist with Yumekui Merry and IS.

Merry was not bad, but not great either. Merry's skimpy little outfit aside, the writing is insanely hard to follow and at times just weird. Like when the main character spasmed out, then stared at the sky and said "Merry" during the fight scene; thought he was possessed or something. Animation is very spotty as well. Overall nothing really grabbed me, so this is dangerously close to being dropped.

Infinite Stratos has the honor of being the first episode I didn't finish. I tried, I really did. But everything about this show screamed stereotype. From the lone handsome male rejecting the looks of women to the tsun(dere) elite blond, nothing about this show broke the mold. Hell the introduction set the mood, what with a bunch of girls getting maybe 1 shot on an enemy before becoming useless, yelling for the guy to finish him off. Forget the blatent sexism of that scenario, I find that whole "everyone but the main is useless" battle strategy unforgivable in most mahou shoujo anime; why is it in a high-production shounen?! Cute girls, mecha, and beautiful animation were definite highlights. But alas they alone can't save this show.

In the end, a .500 season (3 follows, 2 dropped, 1 borderline).


(Sorry for the rants, I just feel better explaining my reasoning at times. If it bugs you just say so).


EDIT: On a whim decided to give Dragon Crisis! a shot. So far I'm getting Gad Guard vibes for some reason, likely because of the music. At first I was underwhelmed, but things definitely picked up after Rose appeared. A lot of questions with very little backstory or exposition, which is annoying, but was more than overwhelmed by solid animation, a unique sountrack, and Rose just being cute. In the end I'm just another hypocritical nerd. Lets see where it goes from here.

Hot-cousin Eriko is already contending for the bounciest boobs of 2011 award. :getdown:
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 12, 2011, 02:46:52 AM
So Level E isn't terrible. The pacing is a little clumsy, but the writing is good and I can see the potential for a good series here.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 13, 2011, 09:20:13 PM
Why did they start Wandering Son so far ahead?! I understand you're going for a catchy opening, but t's only going to confuse new viewers who never read the manga. That part of the story is only emotional if you know what lead up to it!

Still, because I did read the manga, that was a great first episode, because damn if that isn't the 2nd most heart wrenching part of the series in my opinion
(only behind Nitori's wearing a girl's uniform to school for the first time)
. I can't comment on things that I have little knowledge/care for (like voice acting and such) but I really like the style they use for Shimura Takako adaptations. I wonder if they're going back to the beginning from now on, though it's going to be weird when it works its way back to the present. And if they don't, then it kills a lot of details about the cast. *sigh*
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 14, 2011, 12:42:21 PM
Horrible pacing for Hourou Musuko I agree, I dunno what's even going on and it feels somewhat... established already, and that's when I am not reading the manga.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 14, 2011, 03:26:35 PM
After watching the first episode, it looks like Fractale is going to be the best series this season. Gorgeous, charming, funny and engaging. It reminds me a bit of Studio Ghibli, with some elements of Haibani Renmei (only not as sad). Gosick and Level E, I think I'll be following more or less for something to watch, and I'll still be following Bakuman, but Fractale is the series I'll be looking forward to each week. Lovely stuff.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on January 14, 2011, 03:59:42 PM
Cardfight! doesn't seem without merit, though it smells of cardgame anime like Yugioh.

Considering who made it...

Quote
Kore was Zombie is indeed, seemingly wonderful.
whoever said this season sucks should behead themselves for prejudice. There is nothing wrong with this season, some are good, some are woe, but otherwise okay. Come July however, ahahahaha.

I'm sorry I don't like generic stuff.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 14, 2011, 08:19:53 PM
I have to agree with Amaterasu,  Fractale is off to a great start. I definitely get Studio Ghibli vibes, which alone is worthy of love, but even beyond that the first episode is best single best episode I've seen so far this season among all shows. The scene with
the three "antagonists" at the door
had me in stitches. Purely enjoyable show so far.

Madoka is still the surprise of the season. A lot of stereotypical mahou shoujo tropes are contrasted by a gorgeous soundtrack and visuals during the witch hunts, and the fights themselves are enjoyable to watch. Gosick is losing a little stream due to predictability (I'm sure I already know who's responsible this time) but Victorique is still awesome, especially that laugh of her's. :V
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on January 14, 2011, 09:04:38 PM
Obviously not this season, but its news for another new SHAFT anime. (http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=280676)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2011, 02:09:48 AM
After watching the first episode, it looks like Fractale is going to be the best series this season. Gorgeous, charming, funny and engaging.

Probably have to agree with all statements made here.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on January 15, 2011, 02:40:03 AM
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8203/132ditto.png)

Fractale is very good.

Gosick is alright and I'll at least follow a few more episodes before deciding whether I like it or not.

zombie is hurl
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 15, 2011, 02:42:40 AM
I need a .gif of Victorique rolling in boredom.

for... erm, university coursework purpose.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on January 15, 2011, 02:51:44 AM
Madoka is still the surprise of the season.
Shinbo (Nanoha's director), Yuki Kajiura, and Urobuchi Gen. Was this really a surprise? :V
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Hanged Hourai on January 15, 2011, 03:16:16 AM
I need a .gif of Victorique rolling in boredom.

for... erm, university coursework purpose.

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9729/gosick.gif)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 15, 2011, 04:30:31 AM
it is so small....

nyoron~
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Hanged Hourai on January 15, 2011, 04:47:03 AM
I can get it larger, but then there will be dumb watermarks promoting the site on it.
And then you'll be able to see the subs, which just look ugly.

I can easily do it if you want me to.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2011, 04:52:24 AM
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/828081/blonde_hair-checkered-gif-gosick-gothic_lolita-lol
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 15, 2011, 04:56:26 AM
thanks!!

now to edit out enough frames for an avy...
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Formless God on January 15, 2011, 06:38:32 AM
(I'm sure I already know who's responsible this time)
Care to explain what's going on ? I'm at the end of Ep.2 and everything still seems, uh, pretty clueless :ohdear:
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on January 15, 2011, 06:53:23 AM
Care to explain what's going on ? I'm at the end of Ep.2 and everything still seems, uh, pretty clueless :ohdear:

Girl in the dress was one of the former children on the boat.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 15, 2011, 06:55:17 AM
Am I the only one giving Level E a shot then? The first episode's actually alright. Not stellar, but interesting enough to follow anyways.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 15, 2011, 06:58:47 AM
Care to explain what's going on ? I'm at the end of Ep.2 and everything still seems, uh, pretty clueless :ohdear:
Maybe "sure" wasn't the best choice of words, more like a hunch (which, considering my track record with mysteries, isn't bragworthy  :derp:).

All I can say is look at the
hair.
[/s] I've had 1 solid suspect since the beginning, and nothing has changed that.

Dammit Edible!

Though one could also note that
the first boy to "die" was blonde, the one who confirmed that is the girl, and one of the current survivors is a blonde adult male
but yeah you got my suspect down in 1. That last note could just be coincidence, or maybe not. We'll see. :3


Edit: I'll give it a shot tomorrow I suppose. I've been curious but never enough to watch it yet.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Formless God on January 15, 2011, 07:14:29 AM
I was suspecting
her
as well, but I don't know
what the role of the "hares" is (afaik the kids from the past 10 years were nicknamed as such, but here people used that name to call each other as well).

(is that some double spoiler I'm seeing there ? :V)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 15, 2011, 07:17:41 AM
 :V

I honestly didn't think it'd work until I hit preview; it was a pleasant surprise.

About the hares, that's one part of the series that totally eludes me. The very first scene in the series was a literal hare hunt, and that seems to be a constant theme throughout. Maybe someone else has an idea, because I'm stumped.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 15, 2011, 02:20:28 PM
Am I the only one giving Level E a shot then? The first episode's actually alright. Not stellar, but interesting enough to follow anyways.

If I recall, Level E originated from a manga by the same name, and it was a classic. I read it once when I was in school, and I am fairly certain I forgotten/probably did not understand the manga at all. I just might give it a try.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on January 15, 2011, 06:40:58 PM
It sucks not having enough time for anime anymore but oh well.


If I am to watch just one show this season which should it be? I'm thinking fractale so far.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 15, 2011, 06:46:19 PM
Yep, Fractale. Also Bakuman.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Helix ⑨ on January 15, 2011, 07:43:28 PM
No wonder I don't like gosick. I'm just watching a series about people escaping a boat, and you guys are actually solving a crime.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on January 15, 2011, 09:51:16 PM
I'm watching a detective series without the annoying "detective" part.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Ryuu on January 16, 2011, 09:38:01 AM
have to agree with the stuff I heard about wandering son starting off weird I heard here

I still think the show has a lot of potential but that beginning was just kind of "why are you telling us all of this instead of just making a show out of it"
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ruikomatsu on January 16, 2011, 09:49:57 AM
have to agree with the stuff I heard about wandering son starting off weird I heard here

I still think the show has a lot of potential but that beginning was just kind of "why are you telling us all of this instead of just making a show out of it"

Is it because everyone, especially the main character are having
gender issues?
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Ryuu on January 16, 2011, 10:08:32 AM
Is it because everyone, especially the main character are having gender issues?

no I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be the main plot

I mean weird in the sense that they started the anime in the middle of the events in the manga, skipping a lot of storyline they could have just as well shown us
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ruikomatsu on January 16, 2011, 10:32:56 AM
Oops. I accidentally spoiled you all.  :derp:

Is that so? Noted.
I guess you need to see the first chapters of the manga to get a clue.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 16, 2011, 11:57:54 AM
Perhaps it is one of those Ju-On/The Ring type shows where events are chronically stitched by the watcher things?

fuck those, they make my head hurt.
the last one of those was both Carnelian game/art based shows, Yami to Boshi and Touka Gettan

fuck my head was acid when I watched those.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ruikomatsu on January 16, 2011, 12:02:32 PM
Perhaps it is one of those Ju-On/The Ring type shows where events are chronically stitched by the watcher things?

fuck those, they make my head hurt.
the last one of those was both Carnelian game/art based shows, Yami to Boshi and Touka Gettan

fuck my head was acid when I watched those.

THESE!

...especially Touka Gettan. It's even worse actually.
since you have no choice but to watch the show starting in episode 13 to 1

Why do they even have to do that? D8

I had a hard time understanding everything because of this trap.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 16, 2011, 12:17:44 PM
moar like episode 24.
that's 24 episode of lol I dunno what happened, so you watch it backwards. But here's the fun bit, in Touka Gettan, the next week mearly reveals what happened this week.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on January 16, 2011, 12:41:28 PM
Perhaps it is one of those Ju-On/The Ring type shows where events are chronically stitched by the watcher things?

fuck those, they make my head hurt.
the last one of those was both Carnelian game/art based shows, Yami to Boshi and Touka Gettan

fuck my head was acid when I watched those.

oh come on, Yamibou wasn't that bad.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 16, 2011, 01:04:52 PM
What.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/2147cra.png)

You know, if you're going to go out of your way to drop a turd on the episode during the closing credits, just stop subbing it altogether. No one cares what you think of the series.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ruikomatsu on January 16, 2011, 01:46:11 PM
oh come on, Yamibou wasn't that bad.

It became somewhat bad because of the
ending.
But I enjoyed every bits of it.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Ryuu on January 16, 2011, 10:01:56 PM
Oops. I accidentally spoiled you all.  :derp:

Is that so? Noted.
I guess you need to see the first chapters of the manga to get a clue.

I don't think the show summary counts as a spoiler ;p
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ruikomatsu on January 17, 2011, 12:36:36 PM
I don't think the show summary counts as a spoiler ;p

Oh, right.   :V
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 18, 2011, 01:21:00 PM
Kore wa Zombie deska is just throwing me into hysterics everytime Ayumu gets shot down before his 'onii-chan' fantasies get half-way.
In episode 2 is just especially so, because lol scold me more Sera-sama!! YOU KUSO-MUSHI!! this is by far my favorite scolding ever. probably what I liked best about Sera so far is that her sword materializes from flying leaves which come out of fucking nowhere, and welp, she can dematerialize easily.

I guess she is the fanfiction quotient of Youmu meets Remilia. and damn, those boobs~~!!
But most of all, this episode is all about Euclide-chan, for me, she is the star of the show if only because of the way she responds to things with such cold abject displeasure. "Hey you are cool and all..." "Please don't do that again" "More rice pls."
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 18, 2011, 04:54:13 PM
OK, episode 2 of Level E has me interested. It was funny, yes, but it also has some mystery thrown in there - it turns out, aliens from several different planets live among us, and some of these aliens are nicer than others, but they all appear human. It seems to be setting up for some potentially hilarious interplanetary drama here. Very enjoyable.

DOPPEL EDIT: Fractale continues to be great. And I really love the OP. I have high hopes for this series. All the details they put into this, from the landscapes to Clain's dad's water-cooler effect, make it visually great, but on top of that the story's touching and funny.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: _Zac_ on January 21, 2011, 03:40:54 AM
OK, episode 2 of Level E has me interested. It was funny, yes, but it also has some mystery thrown in there - it turns out, aliens from several different planets live among us, and some of these aliens are nicer than others, but they all appear human. It seems to be setting up for some potentially hilarious interplanetary drama here. Very enjoyable.
This is probably my favorite series of this season so far. Though I need to see Fractale and some others to really have an opinion.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on January 21, 2011, 04:13:02 AM
From what I've seen, there are like no good OPs this season. Most of the EDs are amazing though.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Lite?彼女 on January 21, 2011, 04:42:26 AM
@madoka 3, what did i just watch
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on January 21, 2011, 04:52:50 AM
From what I've seen, there are like no good OPs this season. Most of the EDs are amazing though.

Merry's OP is great, eye em oh.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Naut on January 21, 2011, 05:15:44 AM
@madoka 3, what did i just watch

Fucking this

Holy shit
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 21, 2011, 07:53:53 AM
I can't believe that Shaft went through with the tripped flags. I was ready for a "Sorry I'm immortal because of bad wording on my wish" or something like that
. Holy crap every time you think you know this show it turns on it's head. Forget being a surprise, this is easily one of my favorites for the season.

Edit:
Before someone says "it's Shaft/Urobuchi/whatever, you should've seen it coming" or the like, remember I know next to nothing about the anime industry itself.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Prody on January 21, 2011, 04:51:53 PM
Madoka...

It's been a while since I've been this traumatized by anime
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 21, 2011, 06:55:04 PM
Gosick and Level E have done a good job of helping me recover from Madoka. Level E in particular is looking to go in a fun direction, and the interactions between the cast is nice. No "weak" characters so far, which makes me happy.

Gosick is the same as always
(I knew the blond guy had something to do with it)
. It was nice that it tied up all the loose ends from the first episode as well; I guess I overestimated the "hares" plot. We also got more information on Victorique, and why she
doesn't throw a fit about not getting credit
. She is still the character of the season.

Madoka....
I'm notoriously weak against gore of any kind
, so this is going to be...interesting going forward. I love that this is not your typical "love and friendship conquers all" magical girl show, but I'm not sure I can take 10 more episodes of this. :ohdear:


(Sorry for the spoiler abuse, I'll stop if it bothers people).


EDIT: Fractale Simulcast temporarily halted due to pirating. Until fansubbing stops, the company won't let funimation continue airing the show. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-19/fractale-production-committee-halts-n-american-simulcast)

FFFFFFFF- There goes one of the best shows from the season for now.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 21, 2011, 08:25:51 PM
EDIT: Fractale Simulcast temporarily halted due to pirating. Until fansubbing stops, the company won't let funimation continue airing the show. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-19/fractale-production-committee-halts-n-american-simulcast)

FFFFFFFF- There goes one of the best shows from the season for now.

Well that is a shame. It's pretty much the best series this season.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Formless God on January 21, 2011, 10:53:56 PM
Hmmm ... Gosick Ep.3 is a bit less interesting than the first two imo, but at least it finally explained everything.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on January 25, 2011, 06:31:10 AM
If you haven't watched Level E yet, do it! Episode 3 is by far the best yet. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time; my family thinks I'm crazy now.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 25, 2011, 03:14:21 PM
From what I've seen, there are like no good OPs this season. Most of the EDs are amazing though.

There are some I like the song with it, but animation is so so.

Kore wa Zombie is one of my favorite imo, currently in my impression the best OP song is in Infinite stratos, love that beat.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on January 25, 2011, 09:21:26 PM
In my current opinion, Kore wa Zombie is right up there with Seto no Hanayome.  This show is so damn amusing.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 25, 2011, 09:22:46 PM
From what I've seen, there are like no good OPs this season.

Must not've seen Fractale's then.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on January 25, 2011, 09:27:13 PM
Must not've seen Fractale's then.

I watched Fractale's OP once, and then I woke up in a Cambodian diner's kitchen with no shirt and a bloody knife.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on January 25, 2011, 10:05:30 PM
Fractale's OP is fantastic.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Hanged Hourai on January 25, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Bah. Gosick is where's it's at. Easily the best.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 26, 2011, 03:04:25 AM
In my current opinion, Kore wa Zombie is right up there with Seto no Hanayome.  This show is so damn amusing.
/maximum brofist

Just finished Gundam Awakening of THe Trailblazer recently, I think I am in love with the ED song, just as when peace narrowly comes to the table, the song blasts on my speakers and ... wow.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 26, 2011, 12:43:42 PM
I watched Fractale's OP once, and then I woke up in a Cambodian diner's kitchen with no shirt and a bloody knife.

I hear you, man. I hear you.

*thousand yard stare, sound of choppers and "Fortunate Son" playing*

EDIT:

(http://i53.tinypic.com/34nh9a1.png)

Hooray for honest answers to "what are you looking at?"
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 27, 2011, 08:22:38 AM
people who watch Freezing:

Don't let the Yuyuko-wannabe Shiffon fool you, when she gets serious'ed up, ehehehe...
I live to see that moment animated from the manga.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on January 29, 2011, 06:39:43 AM
Fractale is goddamn fantastic. It's funny, charming, and even from just three episodes the pacing is expertly done. You can really see already how the cast is evolving; I definitely didn't expect the "villains" to become the main active force, and you can plainly see Clain develop by being immersed into such a different way of life. Even though it's hilarious and everything up to now has been very light-hearted (even a kidnapping essentially turned into a "please feel welcome"), the severity of the end of this episode has such an incredibly moving contrast to what's been shown so far.
Butcher dying right off the bat? DID NOT SEE COMING, HOLY SHIT.
It's so suddenly shoved the story into a more serious direction; and each scene beforehand was written so innocently, as though it were viewed by Clain. Even while they were hiding it gave off such a curious feel. You can vividly see the change happen right before your eyes.

It's just goddamn fantastic.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 29, 2011, 07:31:57 AM
Episode 4 of Infinite Stratos is epic, I am surprised, despite the harem-ish setting, this vaguely resembles good anime with plot! and it is a lot like Sakura Wars.
Anyone who says against this show is really, prejudice-guided, this is a very good show.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Helix ⑨ on January 29, 2011, 02:40:31 PM
Madoka 4  :*  :yumemi:

Want MOAR
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 29, 2011, 08:37:54 PM
Fractale is goddamn fantastic. Etc.

Yes. Absolutely. It's the one precious shining gem in this pile of manure we call the winter season.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on January 30, 2011, 08:15:50 AM
I finally decided to stop being lazy and check out some shows this season, starting with Madoka.

Damn. I mean...damn. Thursday can't come fast enough.

Zombie desu was surprisingly fun as well!  :]
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on January 30, 2011, 08:20:30 AM
Seconding all the Fractale hype.

It's... too good for words. I can't really explain it.

Yes. Absolutely. It's the one precious shining gem in this pile of manure we call the winter season.

I completely agree with this.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on January 30, 2011, 08:24:12 AM
Holy shit, episode 4 of Freezing.

this is amazing, the fight scene and all was well done. This strangely reminds me of good yesteryear's fighting anime but with more fanservice.
the gritty mercilessness brings it to life. Who said catfights have to be about girls pulling hairs and tearing off clothing? These girls will

1. Rising trade-off punches and kicks and weapons-crossing as they take on invisible staircases up mid air!
2. CUNT PUNCH WITH A TONFA
3. FUCK YEAH STAB HER DEAD BITCH AND STAB SOME MORE.
this anime is brutal and I love it!
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on January 31, 2011, 01:25:10 AM
Level E 03 - I thought I couldn't possibly get more trolled by this show after episode 02, and then this work from masterpiece troll shows up.  :]
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: hyorinryu on January 31, 2011, 02:39:25 AM
Are we allowed to talk about anime that spilled over from last season here? I ask because last time I tried a currently running anime thread, it was locked, and the specific anime threads didn't get many posts.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on January 31, 2011, 03:05:31 AM
In this thread maybe? (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,8152.0.html) IDK how this forum works. :I

Also, Fractale's a pretty cool guy as to be expected of noitaminA.
eh shoots grannies and civilians and doesn't afraid of anything.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on January 31, 2011, 06:58:52 AM
Just as Bakuman was becoming "that anime I'm still following because it isn't outright offending me but it isn't exactly thrilling me anymore", episode 17 comes along and my interest gets drawn right back in. Finally, we're seeing some real tension here, as the show relies on its strength - exploring the world of manga publishing - and ignores the frankly piss-weak romance save for all but 30 seconds to remind us "oh yeah there's these two people too".
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Quad City QBs on January 31, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
Just catching up on Yumekui Merry now, so toho it hurts (expect Merry/Isana fanart soon)

Also, I love this avatar.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Reddyne on January 31, 2011, 05:38:48 PM
Just catching up since I was out of the loop for more than two weeks. After some poking, I think I've got my four for the season with Fractale, Level E, and one of a few others that I haven't had much time for yet, plus Puella Madoka Whatevertheface Happy Pretty Magical Girl With Surrealistic Imagery And Shaft Being Shaft Fun TIme Creepy Guy Demographic But With Great Direction, Pacing, Voice Work, and Other Merits Show being... really good.

Oh, and I totally spoilered myself already with something on that one. Curiosity is a sign of both intelligence and stupidity.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on January 31, 2011, 08:18:24 PM
Just catching up on Yumekui Merry now, so toho it hurts (expect Merry/Isana fanart soon)

Also, I love this avatar.

THAT FUDGING DEVIL CAT!!!
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on February 01, 2011, 12:14:19 AM
Level E 03 - I thought I couldn't possibly get more trolled by this show after episode 02, and then this work from masterpiece troll shows up.  :]

Sort of my feeling about ep 4.The actual "story" of the episode was fantastic. More underground organisations investigating the aliens, the reveal, and the morality drama of the alien in question was really great. But those last two minutes, completely separate from the story - and which was right down there with "it was all just a dream" - seemed kinda tacked on.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 01, 2011, 03:16:36 AM
well, anyone who deems Zombie deska as unworthy of their time should regret~, episode 4 marks the true beginning of its story! and Yuu.... oh Yuu.... how could it be? I didn't know your burden was this heavy....
I didn't know the meaning behind your words...

I.... T_________________T
best moment this season possibly when she confessed her reasons for not being able to speak...
I am almost certain this show is going places.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on February 01, 2011, 03:42:34 AM
NOPE.AVI

Is what most people who already dropped it are going to say to that. I mean FOUR EPISODES? That's like a month I had to wait for it to be worthy. You missed your chance last week at the three episode mark. :V

I should stop watching old stuff when I'm also pretty much watching almost everything that's not a sequel this season. orz
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 01, 2011, 04:21:36 AM
oh hey, I herd you watching Railgun and Index.

HOWS THAT FOR 21 PLOTS AND COUNTING
no seriously, I started READING up on Zombie Deska which is pretty much why I stuck with it, I know there is gonna be good stuff in the later episodes because it follows the chapters faithfully.
Railgun Season 2 where?
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Reddyne on February 01, 2011, 02:01:01 PM
Hurr Puella episode 3. Partially saw it coming, partially had it spoiled, but still.

Also, Wandering Son is my fourth and final locked-in series. What can I say? I'm curious.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on February 01, 2011, 07:11:43 PM
Watched a bit of Freezing today.  So far, the cast has been unlikable (especially the male lead), the story makes little sense, the world building is poor, but the CG bus is a thing of beauty.

The show's been so stupid that I couldn't even enjoy the plot, and by plot I mean tits.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 02, 2011, 04:35:18 AM
it is Korean, you must think Korean to enjoy this. and by this, I mean you must at least liked Winter Sonata and the sort of brash idea related things to like Freezing.

But basically what the idea is that other dimensional aliens have appeared on earth pretty much several years before, in response, the world united and created what looked like a school of weapon manufacturing in the form of school girls which are trained to kill and maim those aliens. It just so happens being in this school of fierce females is also a bad thing, as rivalry between them seemed rife and they really don't go well together.

In this part, you must sorta must look at previous Korean manga and stuff by the author, and most other Korean authors, they seem to have a tendency to insert characters with a lot of emotions, like overblowing with it, I mean, these are the sort of characters whom say... if someone was drowing in a pool, they'd bring a submarine and a rescue team. (evidently, this happened in Flow, another Korean manga about superpowered schoolchildren).

But anyway, the story is not quite that nice yet, at some point behind you may find it more enjoyable as Kazuya's past gets deeper and deeper.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: trancehime on February 02, 2011, 10:09:30 AM
it is Korean, you must think Korean to enjoy this. and by this, I mean you must at least liked Winter Sonata and the sort of brash idea related things to like Freezing.

But basically what the idea is that other dimensional aliens have appeared on earth pretty much several years before, in response, the world united and created what looked like a school of weapon manufacturing in the form of school girls which are trained to kill and maim those aliens. It just so happens being in this school of fierce females is also a bad thing, as rivalry between them seemed rife and they really don't go well together.

Yeah, see, this is why I was detracted to the premise of Freezing. I don't care how innovative people are trying to call that kind of premise, it still seems to scream "TITS EVERYWHERE" and "generic-as-shit male lead w/ typical busty female heroines" and it's just really offputting to me. And claiming that people have to "think Korean" is easier said than done. Some people just /can't/. I know I can't. It's no different from taking that premise and replacing the ingredient of "killer school girls" with "killer super robots," and the whole rivalry dynamic to me seems like a cop-out for some potential character-driven interaction, it seems so BORING. And generic. Did I mention Freezing has just screamed "generic snoozefest" to me?

I realize that Freezing is likeable by a good population on people. This is NOT a knock on the show itself. I know people like it. But I know people are going to ask me why I dislike a show that is on the popularity rise this season. So I am explaining it now.

well, anyone who deems Zombie deska as unworthy of their time should regret~, episode 4 marks the true beginning of its story!

An anime shouldn't have to take four fucking episodes to "mark a true beginning of its story." 2 episodes is alright. 3 is pushing it. But 4? NO.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on February 02, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
I told you. :derp:

Let's have a review of episode 3s so far:
Dragon Crisis: The MC stops being a pussy, confesses his love, and rescues his girlfriend.
Fractale: Terrorists and government conspiracy.
Gosick: The thrilling conclusion of Box's Revenge.
Level E: MAXIMUM TROLLING.
Puella Magi: Something about heads. IDK, I'm not watching this show. A. T. M.
Wandering Son: Bras and culture festival cross-dressing plays.
Yumekui Merry: Male MC and Female MC begin their partnership.
IS: MC continues to be a complete blockhead while adding China to his international harem.
Onii-chan: MC gets stalked on his date, then faps like fist of the north star.
Rio: Chicken Wings used as a plot point.
Zombie: MC goes bowling and pays his friend's friend a visit in the hospital. His harem fights over pudding.

It's clear which shows are quality this season.
Hint: it's the last 4.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 02, 2011, 03:34:48 PM
bah, your win / loss I guess.
I mean, for me, I wouldn't give up Fist of The North Star in the middle because fightan did not happen or it doesn't advance beyond ATATATATATA.
The same reason goes for this, if you stick for a bit, it might be fun, meanwhile, just keep in the ride. (I do this for most anime I watched with a slow beginning, I never give up thinking it is some intense plot and shit and must be revealed in the first 2 episodes. Probably AIR is one of such shows and I am keen to say it is the best I watched for its genre. )

For me, Freezing is an ok show, it is exciting because there is gory action, and I don't mind that. IS is fun because lol VAs from Strike Witches, and because it is so similiar but not quite, it also reminds me of sakura wars and I love sakura wars. Zombie deska is as said before, just beginning. Leaving this season and last season's watchable champ standing high above the others: FUCKING STAR DRIVER.

I don't really like Dragon crisis, Yumekui Merry is really nice tho, can't help seeing Touhou in Merry and seeing her as some Yukari failure wannabe... Rio: dropped like its hot. Oniichan is straight out perverted, but like all overt shows of this fashion, it gives me brain aids and I don't like it too much to continue.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Whatthe on February 02, 2011, 03:49:47 PM
Rio: Chicken Wings used as a plot point.
RIPOFF (http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail166.html) [soiler](do not take this seriously)[/soiler]
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 04, 2011, 07:49:54 AM
This episode of Madoka spilled something pretty hilarious. As long as Sayaka hunts witches, Madoka will be there to support. Because Kyubey is around Sayaka and also Madoka, if Sayaka is in danger of dying, Madoka might contract. So, Homura has to follow them around to make sure Madoka doesn't contract. Herpa derpa derp.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Naut on February 04, 2011, 02:44:15 PM
Because Kyubey is around Sayaka and also Madoka, if Sayaka is in danger of dying, Madoka might contract.

In during Madoka never becomes a magical girl.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 05, 2011, 03:30:09 AM
OHOHOHOHOHO

REVERSE TRAP IN MY INFINITE STRATOS

YES YES YES
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Fetch()tirade on February 05, 2011, 04:00:56 AM
OHOHOHOHOHO

REVERSE TRAP IN MY INFINITE STRATOS

YES YES YES

Man, Ichika's quite the brainiac, isn't he?
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on February 05, 2011, 01:50:38 PM
OHOHOHOHOHO

REVERSE TRAP IN MY INFINITE STRATOS

YES YES YES
I knew it would end up like this the moment the preview started after the last episode.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Prody on February 06, 2011, 08:39:36 AM
QB Kyubey asking for people to make their wishes is now a common sight in Nico channel. Goes with the whole magical girl thing in Zombie too.

Another thing to bring up. Mitsudomoe keeps track of every student in the class, (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11633146) but Madoka can't. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13459749)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 06, 2011, 01:55:31 PM
I knew it would end up like this the moment the preview started after the last episode.
Man, Ichika's quite the brainiac, isn't he?

it was no surprise for me, since I sort of know IS has NO BOYS other than Ichika. (which btw is an eyesore).
I wish Charles Dunoa was the actual protagonist, and a real guy nuff said.
/me raises hand for the bishonen club of protags who look and feel much like gentlemen and cute darlings~~

now excuse me while I dowse myself with hefty amounts of Ciel Phantomhive pictures.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on February 07, 2011, 04:22:07 PM
Bakuman 18: The first half gives us a rather long exposition - through a number of characters - on the subject of What's Wrong With The Manga Industry. Then the second half comes and we start to see the cracks forming in the founding friendship. TENSION!

Fractale 4: This show continues to get better. The moral ambiguity of the two factions involved is really nice; it's hard to see any absolute good or bad guys. There were some minor inconsistencies, but I don't think it took away from the overall story, which left me waiting on the next episode impatiently. Great stuff.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 07, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
I only noticed during Fractale 4 that they throw the ads across the screen on purpose, only during scenes that directly involve the Fractale system.

It's so subtle I thought they were just random ads with no purpose whatsoever but really it's kind of neat.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 08, 2011, 05:38:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFhZ-XKGRs

Yes.

Yes, that actually just happened. You did just watch that.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on February 08, 2011, 05:47:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFhZ-XKGRs

Yes.

Yes, that actually just happened. You did just watch that.

Oh my stars and garters.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Ryuu on February 08, 2011, 05:49:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFhZ-XKGRs

Yes.

Yes, that actually just happened. You did just watch that.


 :o
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Fetch()tirade on February 08, 2011, 05:59:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFhZ-XKGRs

Yes.

Yes, that actually just happened. You did just watch that.

That explains everything.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Formless God on February 08, 2011, 06:16:47 AM
There goes one of my favorite anime OP ;_;
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on February 10, 2011, 06:57:48 PM
I just finished catching up to Fractale. What a delightful show~

I only noticed during Fractale 4 that they throw the ads across the screen on purpose, only during scenes that directly involve the Fractale system.

It's so subtle I thought they were just random ads with no purpose whatsoever but really it's kind of neat.

I doubt I would have noticed if I hadn't read your post here before watching the show, to be honest.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 11, 2011, 05:46:29 AM
holy shat soul gem speech

also

kyubey -> puella magi soul gem -> magic used -> dirty soul gem
witch -> grief seed -> clean soul gem -> black grief seed -> kyubey
thus
human -> power in magic form -> power taken by grief seed -> digestables -> kyubey

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on February 11, 2011, 03:42:59 PM
holy shat soul gem speech

also

kyubey -> puella magi soul gem -> magic used -> dirty soul gem
witch -> grief seed -> clean soul gem -> black grief seed -> kyubey
thus
human -> power in magic form -> power taken by grief seed -> digestables -> kyubey

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Is it Thursday yet?
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 11, 2011, 04:02:06 PM
It's actually Saturday already.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on February 11, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
Yeah, Madoka 6 was a gigantic pile of wtf.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on February 11, 2011, 06:52:05 PM
You know what Level E is? It's anime that's on a mission to satirize every anime every made that had anything to do with space, aliens, robots, and ... the Power Rangers. it's hilarious to see things unfold, such as the one kid who tried "transforming" into his Power Rangers form for the first time, and confesses to a friend, "Yeah, I did it in front of a mirror. At first I laughed, and then for some reason I started crying."

I'm enjoying this show more with each viewing.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Widermelonz on February 12, 2011, 01:52:14 AM
I want to strangle Kyubey so bad right now. Also, is Madoka's first reaction to anything to just throw stuff?

On another note, my heart was not prepared for what just happened in Infinite Stratos. Kana Hnnnnnnnnazawa's voice is a lethal weapon.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 12, 2011, 12:48:43 PM
I see you been Nadeko'ed

I am glad.

Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Prody on February 12, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
Here's some statistics on Nico Nico Channel as of this post: (All numbers are views)

Madoka
Ep1: 352,524
Ep2: 215,069
Ep3: 359,995
Ep4: 219,855
Ep5: 199,486

Zombie
Ep1: 338,753
Ep2: 209,760
Ep3: 196,813
Ep4: 221,247
Ep5: 148,106

Oniichan no koto
Ep1: 280,038
Ep2: 276,690
Ep3: 193,145
Ep4: 179,582
Ep5: 217,457

Mitsudomoe 2
Ep1: 146,885
Ep2: 144,208
Ep3: 144,119
Ep4: 152,067
Ep5: 161,606

Cardfight Vanguard
Ep1: 154,868
Ep2: 72,320
Ep3: 80,342
Ep4: 73,942
Ep5: 67,958

Rio Rainbowgate
Ep1: 199,251
Ep2: 84,910
Ep3: 92,085
Ep4: 66,315
Ep5: 69,330

Index 2
Ep 1: 402,343
Ep13: 132,229
Ep14: 158,620
Ep15: 145,234
Ep16: 137,789
Ep17: 142,745

Most watched: Index 2 episode 1, followed by Madoka episode 3.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ruikomatsu on February 13, 2011, 06:39:41 AM
Just finished watching the Kara no Kyoukai epilogue.
Finished all of them..

Good job, ufotable.

I'm actually curious if anybody here knows Fafner in the Azure. Movie adaptation? Wow. I did not see that coming.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on February 13, 2011, 05:13:40 PM
I'm actually curious if anybody here knows Fafner in the Azure. Movie adaptation? Wow. I did not see that coming.

Yeeeeeah... Fafner and I did not get along very well.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ruikomatsu on February 13, 2011, 05:41:56 PM
Yeeeeeah... Fafner and I did not get along very well.

Is it because
THEY ALL DIE...little by little?  :derp:

I enjoyed it, really. Not as good as the Gundam series, mnn, but yeah, it has its own surprises.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Angelfire on February 13, 2011, 11:00:59 PM
So I Finally Finished Panty & Stocking.

I saw the ending.
 :colonveeplusalpha:

GAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Prody on February 14, 2011, 12:04:50 AM
So I Finally Finished Panty & Stocking.

I saw the ending.
 :colonveeplusalpha:

GAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAX
I think this goes to the Anime You're Watching Now thread.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 14, 2011, 06:00:55 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2vj7lv5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on February 14, 2011, 07:03:09 PM
Is it because
THEY ALL DIE...little by little?  :derp:

Yeah, kinda.

I have an issue with shows that attempt to evoke emotion through meaningless suffering.  It's a cheap tactic that panders to the lowest common denominator and allows staff to get away with poor writing in order to quickly build up a character's rapport with the audience and then strike them down to achieve a dramatic effect.  Character suffering handled poorly is the quickest way to get me to dislike a show.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on February 14, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
It's a cheap tactic that panders to the lowest common denominator and allows staff to get away with poor writing in order to quickly build up a character's rapport with the audience and then strike them down to achieve a dramatic effect.

I agree with this 100%, and think it could easily and fully apply to fanservice.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: LHCling on February 14, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2vj7lv5.jpg)
saved

Also for the record, following Madoka, Fractale, Gosick and Merry.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on February 15, 2011, 12:48:54 AM
Yeah, kinda.

I have an issue with shows that attempt to evoke emotion through meaningless suffering.  It's a cheap tactic that panders to the lowest common denominator and allows staff to get away with poor writing in order to quickly build up a character's rapport with the audience and then strike them down to achieve a dramatic effect.  Character suffering handled poorly is the quickest way to get me to dislike a show.

I'm guessing you despise Bokurano, which is pretty much built on: CHILDREN ARE DYING! DYING TO SAVE YOU! FEEL BAD DAMMIT!
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Edible on February 15, 2011, 01:16:06 AM
I'm guessing you despise Bokurano, which is pretty much built on: CHILDREN ARE DYING! DYING TO SAVE YOU! FEEL BAD DAMMIT!

I do happen to think it's one of the worst mangas ever, yes.  That particular author gets off on child torture, so.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on February 15, 2011, 01:52:31 AM
I do happen to think it's one of the worst mangas ever, yes.  That particular author gets off on child torture, so.

Now I don't feel so bad for disliking it. I've heard nothing but praise for Kitoh's work, simply because of all the bad things happening to kids. I honestly felt it was kind of cheap tactic to get reactions out of the readers. Even when I gave Bokurano a shot, I found myself skipping huge sections of it because I was bored. I've got no interest in reading Shadow Star as the only thing I've heard about it was "ZOMG IT'S SO GRIMDARK KIDS GETTING RAPED DEATH EVERYWHERE!"
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on February 15, 2011, 02:54:46 AM
The same can be said for Elfen Lied :V
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 15, 2011, 02:39:46 PM
In the end, you will never like an anime for what it is: anime.

Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on February 16, 2011, 04:22:20 AM
Bakuman ep.19 was pretty surprising. The editor's attempt at being a puppetmaster
with a really nice counter-ploy from the young creators when they catch on
was great. I have difficulty seeing what could possibly happen within the six remaining episodes, though. The show started going in a few different directions at once towards the middle, setting multiple possible avenues their careers could take, and it's still up in the air. I have no idea what it's culminating into, but it's a decent and sometimes surprising show.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Prody on February 17, 2011, 03:35:00 PM
もう何も怖くない (Zombie Version) (http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/866/nicoc11.png)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 17, 2011, 05:16:50 PM
I don't see what is wrong there, he is meeting with a girl in a graveyard, totally amazing.
(and then the epic that followed, fuck yeah)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on February 17, 2011, 05:34:00 PM
Just watched Madoka ep. 7

I...am quite upset right now, but not for the reasons SHAFT wants me to be.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Lexica on February 17, 2011, 05:44:35 PM
Just watched Madoka ep. 7

I...am quite upset right now, but not for the reasons SHAFT wants me to be.
Which was exactly what SHAFT wanted... I thought they know no limits
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on February 17, 2011, 07:05:30 PM
Which was exactly what SHAFT wanted... I thought they know no limits

Was I double trolled? If that was the case, I would praise SHAFT's mad prank skillz! :D
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on February 17, 2011, 08:58:51 PM
(and then the epic that followed, fuck yeah)
*high fives*
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on February 21, 2011, 02:11:22 AM
Well this was pretty neat. (http://i54.tinypic.com/9kuy9y.png)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 21, 2011, 02:35:19 AM
I don't think it was on purpose but I definitely noticed it too.

Overall this might have been the funniest episode yet.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on February 24, 2011, 09:09:55 PM
wHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU SCHOOL IS OCCUPIED BY NINJA VAMPIRES?

Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Whatthe on February 24, 2011, 11:51:44 PM
wHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU SCHOOL IS OCCUPIED BY NINJA VAMPIRES?
Oh no, ninja vampires?! I hate these guys! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivHG-Cj6nQ#t=317s)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Kasu on February 24, 2011, 11:58:47 PM
Oh no, ninja vampires?! I hate these guys! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivHG-Cj6nQ#t=317s)
Heh.
Oh no, ninja vampires?! I hate these guys! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivHG-Cj6nQ#t=317s)
Seems there were more than I thought. :3
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Lite?彼女 on February 25, 2011, 02:03:54 AM
MADOKA 8, HOLY SHIT, SHIT GOT SO REAL [Incubator's DWI.GIF to homura here]
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Widermelonz on February 25, 2011, 02:35:33 AM
Holy shit Madoka 8 was intense. So much of the previous foreshadowing were confirmed in this episode. And Homura has an interesting choice of weapons.

Also, I decided to watch zombie desu ka, and now I'm caught up. I gotta say, it's tons of fun. It's got a good mixture of story, laughs, action, and fanservice, with a sprinkle of hhhnnnnngggg.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on February 25, 2011, 03:18:07 AM
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Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Naut on February 25, 2011, 03:37:18 AM
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Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on February 25, 2011, 03:42:05 AM
om nom nom

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Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: jigglyppuff8 on February 25, 2011, 04:01:38 AM
After finally forcing myself again to watch the boredom that is Bakuman, J.C. Staff seems to have taken the advice from this episode and make something that's actually remotely interesting other than ROMANCE DREAMS ROMANCE THEY LOVE EACH OTHER ROMANCE. slowpoke.jpg I know.

Also, I'm not watching Madoka.
dwi.gif
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Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on February 25, 2011, 06:18:39 AM
ぼくはえっちさんです
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9727/ecchi1.th.jpg) (http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9727/ecchi1.jpg)
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3938/ecchi2.th.jpg) (http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3938/ecchi2.jpg)
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/336/ecchi3.th.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/336/ecchi3.jpg)
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3289/ecchi4.th.jpg) (http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3289/ecchi4.jpg)
best episode
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Byaaakuren on February 25, 2011, 06:28:15 AM
Holy shit, Kyubey. You
fucking monster.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on February 25, 2011, 03:53:54 PM
( ◕ ω ◕ )

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Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Reddyne on February 25, 2011, 05:41:07 PM
Holy shit, Kyubey. You
fucking monster.
It's so truuuuuuuuuuuue!

Episode 8 was too much but not enough. Spectacular.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on February 25, 2011, 05:53:42 PM
ぼくはえっちさんです
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9727/ecchi1.th.jpg) (http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9727/ecchi1.jpg)
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3938/ecchi2.th.jpg) (http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3938/ecchi2.jpg)
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/336/ecchi3.th.jpg) (http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/336/ecchi3.jpg)
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3289/ecchi4.th.jpg) (http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3289/ecchi4.jpg)
best episode

Well yes, even this little bit of fan service was alright. For some reason it doesn't feel forced or wedged in there. Phryne suddenly stripping and jumping into the water just demonstrates again that while she's supposedly a captive of the LM, she's really just along for the ride, and she reminds them of this frequently. I mean she was peeling potatoes at this point in the story, being scolded for taking too long, when she up and decides to go swimming. I love this character for that.

The moral ambiguity thrown into the show is really something. Who are the good guys, really? The religious faction, making people literally live in a world of illusions? The "freedom fighters" combating the Temple, who have no qualms with gunning down unarmed civilians? Maybe neither one of them are the good guys. That'd sure be close to real life. Mari Okada, the screenwriter for the series, has a number of great series to her credit (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=39695), so it's not surprising that the writing holds up as well as it does. And the series being written by a woman means it's OK to enjoy the occasional blips of fanservice, right?

Oh, and the little twist at the end of this episode was priceless.

Also, caught up on eps 6 and 7 of Level E. Amusing little arc in the middle of the general plot. Nothing mind-blowing, but it definitely had some funny moments there - as you'd expect if five high school kids were suddenly transported into a shoddily-made game done in RPGMaker.

After finally forcing myself again to watch the boredom that is Bakuman, J.C. Staff seems to have taken the advice from this episode and make something that's actually remotely interesting other than ROMANCE DREAMS ROMANCE THEY LOVE EACH OTHER ROMANCE. slowpoke.jpg I know.

Yeah, things are definitely picking up now, and getting back to what I thought was the original point of this series - showing the unforgiving and ruthless underbelly of the world of manga, anime and voice acting. The sappy-ass romance in the middle of the series was very trying on me, but now that we're in the home stretch, with five episodes to go, the writers have thankfully gotten back to brass tacks. Good on them.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Seventh Holy Scripture on March 04, 2011, 05:38:05 AM
episode 9

(http://i.imgur.com/PwKcsl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/PwKcs)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 04, 2011, 07:25:01 AM
Ok.

Madoka this week has shit all on Fractale.

Wow.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on March 04, 2011, 01:50:22 PM
You're not kidding. The last five minutes alone could have been an episode in themselves.

And now we know what happens when you make Nessa really angry.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 04, 2011, 04:32:05 PM
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/117/ohgodphryne.jpg)
Phryne rejects societal normalcies of what a "girl" is (acts like a tomboy, "I am Phryne before I am a girl")
Phryne has no qualms with randomly stripping even in front of men
Phryne's mind goes blank when creepy dude attempts to get it on
"I have no right to be loved by someone"

holy balls
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on March 04, 2011, 05:01:18 PM
Given Phryne's powerful desire to flee the temple and the general creepiness of Reverend Bowl-Cut towards her, this new development confirmed my suspicions.

Yes, Fractale is an elaborate criticism of organized religion, in the best possible sense.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: PC on March 04, 2011, 05:43:56 PM
episode 9

pretty much, yeah

Didn't see anything in that episode coming, and waiting for next week's is going to be an even longer wait than the last.

also KYUUBEE WHAT DID YOU DO YOU BASTARD SONOFA-
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on March 04, 2011, 11:44:39 PM
Finally have enough free time from school to marathon series I put aside.

First off Madoka: HOLY SHIT THIS IS AMAZING! Kyubee confirmed for  (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosSpeedChess)
Xanatos
[/url] tier? Also the reason behind magical girls (summed up by 7hs) was seriously unexpected. 5 bucks says things get darker with the revelation that
Sayaka's crush turned down the friend's confession.

Dragon Crisis: Potential never being met, and animation going to shit lately. *sigh*

Next up is Fractale and Gosick, the former probably the only other worthwhile series this season.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Byaaakuren on March 05, 2011, 04:02:06 AM

And now we know what happens when you make Nessa really angry.

I was just reminded of Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box when I saw what Nessa did Xanadu. Shame she couldn't do much against a gun.

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/117/ohgodphryne.jpg)


I'm starting to dislike this guy even more
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on March 05, 2011, 04:03:49 AM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9342/kyubeysmiley.png)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Gramity on March 06, 2011, 03:10:14 AM
pretty much, yeah

Didn't see anything in that episode coming, and waiting for next week's is going to be an even longer wait than the last.

also KYUUBEE WHAT DID YOU DO YOU BASTARD SONOFA-

one long week :( I ENJOYED that episode.
I fell for that anime :) but never liked that Kyube guy. He had to be a bad guy with such a permanant and creepy smile
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on March 06, 2011, 03:14:24 AM
one long week :( I ENJOYED that episode.
I fell for that anime :) but never liked that Kyube guy. He had to be a bad guy with such a permanant and creepy smile
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9342/kyubeysmiley.png) (http://lol)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Gramity on March 06, 2011, 03:23:14 AM
Evil little guy  D:
So Evil that he eats his own corpse I hope he stayed dead thought.When he got shoot by Homura I got happy.... until I see it again 

Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: 日巫子 on March 06, 2011, 04:02:09 AM
Looking at it from a different perspective, QB just has a very
alien
mindset, doesn't he?  :V

I actually skipped the first two episodes of Madoka, I wonder if that's affecting how I view this?  Even now I'm kind of having a hard time seeing QB as evil.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Gramity on March 06, 2011, 04:18:06 AM
well in my opinion I see it as evil but I may be wrong  but still that terrific smile must hide something ^_^

 
QB  is transforming girl into Puella magica so that they could generate energy for his own people out of  human emotions since his race don't have them and eventually all puella magica become a witch OR get killed so it's basically
---> Wish ----> energy producing -----> Death or become a witch by getting your soul gem tainted
that's what I got from ep 9
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on March 06, 2011, 04:23:31 AM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9342/kyubeysmiley.png) Nothing personal, it's just business.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on March 06, 2011, 04:26:56 AM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9342/kyubeysmiley.png) Nothing personal, it's just
trying to save the universe in the future for all other life forms
.

I can't really condemn QB as evil for doing what he feels is right, even if it's unacceptable by most human standards.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Gramity on March 06, 2011, 04:30:34 AM
well maybe he's not but his smile will always be :) I can't stand it >.<
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on March 06, 2011, 04:47:37 AM
(http://i55.tinypic.com/330qr2s.jpg)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Gramity on March 06, 2011, 04:54:45 AM
I'll have to xD at least he doesn't have his smile on that picture :D
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on March 06, 2011, 09:01:57 AM
Nothing personal, it's just
saving the universe for all life forms, including one day your's.
Further fixed.
While primarily for his people, he does present everything on a universal scale throughout his conversation with Madoka.

Quote from: QB
Do you know how many cultures exist in this universe, consuming energy every moment. Sometime in the future you humans will leave this planet and join us, too. It wouldn't be nice if the universe was dieing at that time, would it?


Really I'm with most people that cannot "hate" Kyubei anymore, even if I have a hard time agreeing with him. Basically what he says in his conversation with Madoka in episode 9 is a variation of the classic
would you kill a baby to save a million people
hypothetical; he simply cannot fathom why humans would, more often than not, pick  the
baby
despite all logic saying otherwise. His actions are purely "evil" because of a human moral standard that he admits he simply doesn't understand.

Quote from: QB
"When you regret a wrong decision based on a misunderstanding, you humans tend to hate the other party for some reason."

Has he told a bunch of half-truths to get what he wants? Of course! Was that wrong? Depends if you feel the ends justify the means, and right now that's the show's biggest conflict and a large part of why I'm loving it so much.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 06, 2011, 09:30:27 AM
repost
He didn't actually  lie, but he's treading on the invisible fishing wire of deceit and uncertainty, and he knows it. I don't think Kyouko doing that was a part of his "plan" at all, just that the consequences were favorable. He didn't actually trick Kyouko, since she was hellbent on saving Sayaka anyways, and was looking for that genre-stereotypical "If we try hard enough we can save her!" device. Kyubey told her that it hasn't ever happened before to his knowledge, so the chances are extremely low at most. Kyouko went ahead anyways. Later when talking to Homura, Kyubey just repeated that he didn't think it would have been possible. He never changed his stance. However, the sheer amount of not-quite-deceit Kyubey tosses out on a regular basis is pretty coincidental to not be done on purpose. Not sharing information for weird reasons, talking to only certain people about certain things, and speaking over-factually enough that people twist the meaning slightly or misunderstand; it's easy to see that he's walking that line. But I don't think he's outright lying, at least not just with what we have presented so far.

Regardless though, considering the show's circumstances there is no way I'd be able to confidently conclude anything at all. That's why there's so much speculation in the first place, because all throughout the series there hasn't been a single thing wholly explained, and the writers are making a killing for it. Next thing we know episode 10 completely screws up everyone's expectations.



Until further proven I cannot believe anything Kyubey says. Even if the whole heat death avoidance is something that could become of pubescenergy, it's still possibly be a cover for something actually sinister. Homura being so intent on forbidding Madoka from contracting goes far beyond simply "lol energy". I'm not saying to dismiss Kyubey's explanation at all though, since it likely has relevance to the plot somehow. Otherwise it'd be a pretty empty mention.

How about this. Since the beginning of the series, Kyubey has shown to everyone that he reeeeeeeally wants Madoka to contract (up to this point, presumably because the energy produced from her witchification would amke the universe cum buckets). However, he isn't doing anything special aside from passively egging her on. When Homura confronts Kyubey, she says she knows what he's up to. As if he has a hidden agenda. What people seem to have ignored after episode 9 is that there would have no need to reveal that he has a hidden plan. Getting Madoka to contract and become a witch? That much would be obvious, and not worth any special mention. Homura isn't from this timeline. She already knows everything about what would happen when Walpurgisnacht arrives. There is yet even more to what Kyubey is trying to do, and half the people watching the show are being sucked into his explanation because it was all sciencey and shit. Fuck that. Witchification releases energy? Then why would there be a need to incubate grief seeds that have absorbed enough magic to fill to the brim? Why would there even be a need for witches after the transformation? What's more, the wishes the human makes is definitely a triggering factor in Kyubey being able to bring out their souls; Kyubey already says they have no overbearing moral code, and like he told Madoka, why would it matter if a few humans died every so often? If that were all true Kyubey would just be yanking out souls here and there. There must be some sort of consent needed.

i'm kind of annoyed at the one-dimensional stance most of you are taking, it's like "oh boy they sure fooled us! can't wait for next episode lolololol!
you're being spoon-fed the series instead of critically thinking about a series whose appeal depends mainly on critical thought (and reversal of magical girl stereotypes and audience expectations and good music and trippy art)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on March 07, 2011, 12:14:01 AM
I can trust Kyubei because, as far as we know, he has yet to lie. As I said, he has told a lot of half-truths and has intentionally withheld information, but everything he has told the girls has been fact. He's like a used car salesman; he'll tell you about the new stereo system but not that the timing belt is about to snap until after your engine dies on the highway. I don't hate him, probably, because he's an interesting antagonist at least. You've convinced me on one thing though, he definitely is up to something beyond simple energy. It's possible that he's acting independently from the rest of his race. What we don't know is what that plan could possibly be or why? Whatever it is cannot be good for us, or he wouldn't keep quiet about it. What it could be, though, who knows.

Looking back at the beginning of episode 1,
it appears that the battle Homura was fighting (most likely against Walpurgisnacht) was taking place not in a witch's dimension, but in our world. The black/white world more resembles a witch's realm, and Madoka went through an "EXIT".
That could mean that the world is fucked anyways if Madoka does nothing.

That said, if
witches are Magical Girls
, does that mean Walpurgisnacht is actually
the incubated Grief Seeds?
I have no evidence for that guess, but it makes as much sense as any at this point.

On top of that, I willing to believe Madoka's "dream"
actually happened in a previous timeline. Basically this is Homura's second time at least trying to stop whatever is going to happen. The first time she directly warned everyone and was ignored, which is why she constantly says when confronted that she told people and nobody believed her. Note that she never says who she told.
This adds to the desperation, since it would insinuate that she's nearly out of cards and is basically, once again, in a lose-lose situation. In the end, it all comes down to Madoka and Kyubei, and we likely will have at least until the end of ep. 11 until we finally get answers.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 07, 2011, 03:38:27 AM
The thing about the exit, as explained in the first episode (or early second?) it is extraordinarily difficult for humans to get out of a witch's maze. All instances of witches so far you've had to breach an invisible exit, probably with magic, in a location only other magical girls can find. There wouldn't be just an easily labeled EXIT HERE LOL for an actual exit. As far as I'm concerned it's still a witch's maze. The laws of physics are totally shit upon. However, it's still possible that Kyubey might want to bring that into the real world for some reason, but eh. I do agree with incubated grief seeds evolving into a Walpurgisnacht, I had previously thought of that. The grief seed is, after all, only a seed, or an egg. Hence y'know incubator etc etc. I'm still a bit iffy on the whole time loop theory though, as there isn't much to support any looping even happening more than once.

What I haven't mentioned yet are the posters on Homura's wall. Ever since her house was shown it's revealed information about Walpurgis and hints on what Homura is trying to prevent. At first I thought it was more like a circus troupe (hence Walpurgisnacht is coming to town), considering posters have shown six figures of what are probably witches or human forms of magical girls that became Walpurgis. However, Reddums' assertion that Walpurgis is one powerful witch makes me think now that the poster is more of a glossary of previous/future Walpurgisnacht; whether it's witches Homura has fought or otherwise. Also, in episode 9 a poster was added: it's a clearer picture of the gear witch in episode 1 dreamland. It's reasonable to assume this is a Walpurgis, whether previous or future.

Another possible theory goes along with there being six witches/magical girls in Homura's posters. Gathering that witches start as a human girl, convert their souls into a soul gem, transform into a grief seed, get rid of their external bodies and absorb spent magical energy, then incubate; it's possible that they are reborn in a humanoid form once again. Going along with rhetorical character equivalence, six antagonist witches would be equivalent to six protagonist magical girls. We currently have pink, red, yellow, blue and purple/black. What we're missing is green. Yes, green is what I am proposing, and it isn't far off to consider the possibility of a certain green coming into the bigger picture. Or yet another way to see it, all six of these girls will die and/or become witches.

mhm
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Naut on March 07, 2011, 03:58:38 AM
gosick this week was pretty cool, new mystery hmmmm
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Formless God on March 07, 2011, 06:55:06 AM
Damnit Drake you just made me watch the entire thing again.
I thought those posters and exit signs were just SHAFT being random :/
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Blackraptor on March 07, 2011, 07:35:13 AM
"Die, Monster! You don't belong in this world!"

"It is not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was brought back by GIRLS who wished to pay ME tribute."

"Tribute? You steal girls' souls and make them your slaves!"

"Perhaps the same could be said of all religions..."

"Your words are as empty as your soul. Mankind ill-needs a savior such as you"

"What is a man?" -throws wine glass- "Someone who can't become a Puella Magi. But enough talk - have at you!"
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on March 08, 2011, 07:10:00 AM
Forgot about Level E. I almost caught up, but stopped after the Color Ranger arc; I'll watch the next arc this weekend. As already said it was nothing special, but some solid laughs in there, the
honeymoon
in particular.

Fractale is a solid number 2 right now. The ending to episode 7....wow I'm in love again. Nessa is awesome, bowl-cut is fucking creepy now ( :ohdear:), and the plot is moving at full steam again. Clain's lines about what he learned in Xanadu helped establish the anti-religious (or is it anti-technology?) message that the writers seem to want to push, but considering that Lost Millennium has been presented in a negative light multiple times
(getting civilians involved in crossfire; Alabaster tricking refugees and gunning them down if they don't fight with them)
it's hard to say what, if anything, is supposed to be the positive message. I love shades of grey, but in this case it's kind of confusing since some groups seem to be all evil, while others are grey. The balance feels off.

Hopefully the next episode will show us a more in-depth look at the church, allowing us to maybe see some good in the Fractale system. So far we've seen it as an annoyance (Clain vision) and a evil illusionary drug addiction that's ruining the world (LM vision); it'd be nice to see some more inherent good in the system outside of pure luxury and speedy medical service to balance it out.

Sorry if this makes no sense, I'm dead tired and can't speculate well.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on March 08, 2011, 12:13:55 PM
Fractale is a solid number 2 right now. The ending to episode 7....wow I'm in love again. Nessa is awesome, bowl-cut is fucking creepy now ( :ohdear:), and the plot is moving at full steam again. Clain's lines about what he learned in Xanadu helped establish the anti-religious (or is it anti-technology?) message that the writers seem to want to push, but considering that Lost Millennium has been presented in a negative light multiple times
(getting civilians involved in crossfire; Alabaster tricking refugees and gunning them down if they don't fight with them)
it's hard to say what, if anything, is supposed to be the positive message. I love shades of grey, but in this case it's kind of confusing since some groups seem to be all evil, while others are grey. The balance feels off.

That's funny, the balance feels perfectly realistic to me, because every political struggle - violent or otherwise - seems to be filled with nothing but gray. That's one of the reasons why I love Fractale. Neither side are cartoonishly evil or heroic; in fact, they're both deeply flawed. I think this makes the story more entertaining and interesting.

What we do know is, the Fractale system is falling apart. It could be LM's strategy to engage in a war of attrition, nickel-and-dime-ing the Temple until they completely fall apart, but that doesn't rule out the possibility that the Temple has an ace up its sleeve. Regardless, the more the Fractale system deteriorates, the more the people connected to it - whether through their terminals or not - also become more volatile. I'm really curious to see how the rest of this plays out.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Vanishing Sock Puppet on March 10, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh192/SockHyren/1299727647898s.jpg) "being Homeru is suffering."
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Naut on March 11, 2011, 02:46:54 AM
Madoka 10. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ff0cOPSpVA#t=1m18s)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Suikama on March 11, 2011, 02:55:00 AM
Suddenly glasses moe~
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Byaaakuren on March 11, 2011, 02:58:17 AM
So THAT'S why she's making sure Madoka doesn't accept the contract.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on March 11, 2011, 07:37:34 PM
Madoka 10: Called it. Called it so hard! Still,
it was fun seeing how everything transpired in previous timelines. At first there were only 2 magic girls, then 3, then 5. Also Mami losing it after the "witch reveal".

Fractale 8: Best episode of the show, possibly the whole collective season. So many answers, so many twists, and the best ending yet!
The 2nd explosion caught me off guard; holy shit even if they survive they're certainly buried.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Gramity on March 12, 2011, 01:06:35 AM
I knew he was bad !
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Stuffman on March 12, 2011, 02:20:16 AM
QB is evil regardless of whether he is telling the full truth or not.

The heat death of the universe is a long-ass ways away. Probably billions of years, at least? He needs to fuck off and go tell his scientists to find another energy source. By torturing humans to gather energy he's just doing what's convenient for him. Actually, that line he mentioned about tons of civilizations being at war makes me think he wants the energy now so he can use it for the purposes of a weapon, or something like that. Also, he did mention that he intended to turn every girl in the city into a magical girl so he definitely doesn't have humanity's interests in mind. I can't see any justification at all for what he's doing.

Even if the girls agreed with me though, there's still a pretty big dilemma in that only magical girls can kill witches (or so it seems?), and every magical girl will become a witch later. They do need to get rid of the witches, but the only permanent solution I can think of is for every magical girl to go on a blitz to wipe out every witch, then commit suicide before they can become witches themselves. Which is pretty shitty D:

(I haven't seen 10 yet so apologies if something here is out of date)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 12, 2011, 03:04:43 AM
10 "suggests" that simply defeating all the witches and suiciding won't end the problem.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Fetch()tirade on March 12, 2011, 06:26:35 AM
Homura gets the award for
best friend ever
.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Stuffman on March 12, 2011, 08:20:31 AM
Oh god I just saw episode 10

Homura's anguished wailing as she kills Madoka is one of the most heartcrushing things I've ever heard  щ(゚Д゚щ)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 12, 2011, 08:33:59 AM
Seriously, the voice actors for Homura and Madoka did an incredible job this episode.



RE: FRACTALE

GODDAMN THIS SHOW JUST KEEPS GETTING AWESOMER
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on March 12, 2011, 03:38:21 PM
episode 10 of IS

WASABI

AWWWWW YEAAAHHHH
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on March 18, 2011, 03:29:12 PM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/mt4h9j.jpg)
It's nice to see that some things don't change. :)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on March 18, 2011, 06:03:48 PM
That scene, along with the picture scene, just about gave me diabetes.

The more I look at the manga art
(especially the coloring)
the more I debate the merits of the art for the anime. On one hand doing so made a lot of these reveals (like at the beginning of the episode) harder to catch beforehand, but at the same time it makes you wonder
just how does Phryne's hair change from bright red to brown to purple, outside of pseudo-science
?
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Prody on March 25, 2011, 08:19:10 AM
Fun Fact: Madoka episode 10 hit 700k views on nico channel, making it the most watched video on nico channel. The previous record holder was Oreimo episode 1, with 640k views.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on March 25, 2011, 08:23:05 AM
I think I'm going to have to give this a try beyond episode 1.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 25, 2011, 01:58:15 PM
2ch Madoka discussion threads have also breached wayyy past top place for all previous anime. The count is taken for the total time it's on the air, from episode 1 until the next season start.
Haruhi previously held the record at 464; Madoka is currently at 782 threads. Each thread is 1000 posts.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Jana on March 25, 2011, 03:54:01 PM
I think I'm going to have to give this a try beyond episode 1.

Episode 1 of Madoka is not at all indicative of the entire show! My sister discovered this the hard way... She was bored to tears through the beginning, but she really likes Madoka Magika now.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Yakitori on March 25, 2011, 09:07:25 PM
She was bored to tears through the beginning, but she really likes Madoka Magika now.

That's the same way I felt when watching Ika Musume :derp:
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on March 27, 2011, 04:44:36 AM
Fractale ep 10 is leading up to a great climax. The last 30 seconds made me want to wash my brain though.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: hyorinryu on March 28, 2011, 05:07:21 AM
Man, I need to catch up. Only seen up to ep. 5 of Fractale, ep. 1 of Level E, and haven't seen Star Driver in 3 weeks. Haven't even started Madoka. Perhaps this week will give me enough time.

EDIT: 5Ds and Fractale to go.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on March 28, 2011, 05:16:09 AM
Just watched the first ten episodes of Madoka over the past few days, and yes, it's worth catching up on. This is like "Lars von Trier makes a magic girl anime".
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 28, 2011, 07:12:24 AM
okay so

i really want barrot to die

like right now

also i'm pretty much shaking, this show is going to climax so hard
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on March 28, 2011, 01:45:34 PM
Somehow I have a feeling I know how it's going to wrap up, but Fractale has surprised me before. And even if it does end the way I think it will, it's still been, at the very least, an above-average and enjoyable series. With a kick-ass OP.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on March 28, 2011, 06:43:24 PM
Yeah, Moeran being all bipolar and Dias's antics have been pretty foreshadowing. That blob of terminals definitely isn't indicating anything at all. Neither is his cliche white hair and charismatic demeanor. Not at all. Oh and everyone being roughly in place for the Godsbirth is a complete coincidence.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on April 01, 2011, 06:35:01 PM
Sometimes all you want from the final episode is for the animators to not fuck it up. Though good, Fractale's finale did not avoid this fate entirely.
For instance, if the temple was blowing up as they rose, how the fuck did Phrynessa and Claine get back down?! Speaking of Phrynessa, what was with her dialogue waking up? Though it fits Nessa to a T, it's still not exactly the "good morning" i was expecting. Who randomly spouts out "I like likeing" within 3 seconds after coming out of a coma?
Overall I've seen much worse, but still kind of disappointed with how it played out.

Overall a pretty good, beautiful series, which is all one could ask for this season. Just feel like the last 2-3 episodes really wasted potential for an epic finale.


EDIT:
I admit the revelation that Phryne was the key solely because the original Phryne was also raped as a child (insinuated by her father as well) was a very nice, albeit tragic, touch.

Now to catch up on Level E, GoSick, and Wandering Son.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on April 01, 2011, 07:22:36 PM
I'm saving the last episode of Fractale for tonight, but for me, the only good side about this series ending is that the dude from Cartdriver will stop whining about it. I have no idea why he keeps reviewing each episode, when he's said from episode 2 that he doesn't like the series, and in his reviews it's obvious he's not even actually watching what's happening/reading the dialog. His reviews of Bakuman have been pretty spot on, however (although he keeps talking about how he's not going to talk about how bad the romance in the series is, which is passive-aggressive reviewing if I ever saw it).
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on April 01, 2011, 10:07:53 PM
i am crying
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on April 02, 2011, 01:35:57 AM
EDIT:
I admit the revelation that Phryne was the key solely because the original Phryne was also raped as a child (insinuated by her father as well) was a very nice, albeit tragic, touch.

Now to catch up on Level E, GoSick, and Wandering Son.

"The original Phryne" being
God
.

This might be a stretch, but I thought
the real story was revealed when we meet God for the first time. There's a teenaged girl who looks very much like Phryne, and has a stuffed rabbit named Nessa. She speaks somewhat childishly, like Nessa, and the video is ended abruptly when she says her father appears. Remember what Phryne's father said: "It turned out God's age was not 10 but 16, just like this Phryne. Yes, God created a 10-year-old's personality and hid herself in it. Due to a certain traumatic experience, I should say." There's a microcosm vs. macrocosm dynamic going on - God and her stuffed rabbit are parallels of Phryne and Nessa. I think this might - might - suggest that the entire Fractale world exists in the mind of a normal 16-year-old girl with a father very much like Phryne's.

Is that a twist that's been done before? Sure has. But the way there was a beautiful ride, and it felt actually a bit heartbreaking rather than contrived.

The series, to me, didn't have a central message, I don't think. It played with the dynamics of organised religion, ideologically-motivated violence, and technology creating a social disconnect (not a new theme in anime), without trying to take a side one way or the other. It was hard to sympathize with the Temple or with LM - both sides did terrible things, and had terrible people in their midst, as well as good ones.

What was fun about that was what it did to Clain, who's confronted with wanting to keep Phryne away from the Temple, but also being horrified but the things LM does, while not really having any other options.
Clain, I felt was the 16-year-old girl's conscious - dealing with both her much younger self, and emotionally damaged current self, wanting to unite these two broken pieces of her personality, and heal.

The "ecchi! ecchi!" got old pretty quick, but they weren't enough to make me dislike this series. The pace is pretty relaxed until the final episodes, but I felt it delivered.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Stuffman on April 02, 2011, 04:51:48 AM
I think this might - might - suggest that the entire Fractale world exists in the mind of a normal 16-year-old girl with a father very much like Phryne's.

I don't think there's any other conclusion I can draw from this, and frankly I think it's a huge cop-out that ruins the series for me.

They go through all the trouble to create an entirely plausible future world, and then throw it all away for a
"HURR IT WAS ALL A DREAM"
. Like they didn't want to have to think about an actual technical explanation for the whole deal with Phryne. Complete waste of potential.

Now to go wait for Madoka's ending to be ruined by a stupid deus ex machina. :fail:
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Reddyne on April 02, 2011, 04:54:28 AM
Not quite done with everything but a quick summation

Level-E: So many great surprises by taking a tired old genre and spinning it so the result you expect turns out to be something completely different. Puttered around without a plot to keep me interested for too long, though. Also, Pierrot had the resources and funds for this?! Such a pleasant surprise!

Fractale: Somewhere in between Last Exile and the Matrix. Wasn't either, but still fun. Could've benefited from a longer, more fleshed-out plot.

Wandering Son: Finally, an instance of greater gender insecurity than us here at MotK! Chizuru deserves her own series. She's the star of the show by accident. Other characters I had a tough time liking. Makoto is the first character since Chuckie Finster from Rugrats to be so weak-willed that I couldn't bring myself to have empathy for.

Madoka Magica: Every couple of years something comes out that makes me think "thank you for being Japan, Japan" and this is it. I can't wait for the remaining episodes regardless of outcome and I want a second season so bad.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on April 02, 2011, 09:09:29 AM
I don't think there's any other conclusion I can draw from this, and frankly I think it's a huge cop-out that ruins the series for me.

They go through all the trouble to create an entirely plausible future world, and then throw it all away for a
"HURR IT WAS ALL A DREAM"
. Like they didn't want to have to think about an actual technical explanation for the whole deal with Phryne. Complete waste of potential.

Now to go wait for Madoka's ending to be ruined by a stupid deus ex machina. :fail:

I think
"HURR IT WAS ALL A DREAM"
is a pretty oversimplified way to look at what they were doing here. Rather than sweeping logic and explanations under the rug,
on the contrary, every character and event in Fractale now revealed another aspect of the life of "God" - the Temple being the status quo of her home (shut up and do as you're told, and everything will be taken care of for you) to LM being her rebellion against her family life, to the different characters reflecting aspects of her own personality often in violent conflict with each other. Even the title of the series itself suggests identical microcosms within microcosms.
So I think the ending did the exact opposite of "cop out" - that would only be the case if nothing that happened in Fractale reflected a different aspect of the life and inner struggle of the "true main character". The technical aspects of the future world were not explained, in other words, because that's not what the series was actually about - rather than write off what could not be explained, the macrocosm and microcosm were finally brought together as a well-meshed whole, explaining everything about the real story.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Wisp on April 02, 2011, 07:31:30 PM
Darn, I just finished Madoka ep3.
RIP Mami :<

I want a DVD or something so I can watch the rest of the series, but the series isn't finished yet as far as I know.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on April 02, 2011, 07:40:05 PM
There are still two more episodes. And the "Walpurgis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night)" is a real thing; it's the 30th of April. Hopefully it won't take that long, but if this spring's choices fall through, I could easily watch Madoka a second time while I'm waiting. I love the way that story unfolds.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Wisp on April 02, 2011, 10:40:12 PM
Was I seeing things or did I see the body of Mami at the end of Madoka ep4? Coud've sworn that hair was blonde and was in spirals or something like that...
EDIT: Also, after Sayaka became a Puella Magi, I feel as if the series is focusing on her more than Madoka. Not saying it's a bad thing, though.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Silent Harmony on April 03, 2011, 12:15:31 AM
It's generally considered courteous to use spoiler tags.

Just saying.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Wisp on April 03, 2011, 12:26:32 AM
It's generally considered courteous to use spoiler tags.

Just saying.
Done. Thanks. Not used to it so I don't know when to use them :P
Stuff always seems to slip out of my mouth, too. XD

EDIT: Off Topic: MORNING LESCUE FTW!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Fossil Goo on April 04, 2011, 05:08:28 PM
All the discussion on here made my curiosity finally get the better of me and I started watching Madoka. I'm up to about episode 6 now and I think it is quite good.
I didn't find it TOO terribly depressing, despite how bleak it is, but a while after watching it a cloud of "bummer, man" descended upon me and I had to listen to Dragon Soul for three minutes to shake it off.
Also I FREAKING LOVE how trippy and surreal the witches and witchspace are.
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Drake on April 04, 2011, 05:11:38 PM
gekidan inu curry is best animootion
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Tengukami on April 04, 2011, 08:23:57 PM
So, just watched the last episode of Bakuman. I thought I would be excited to hear that there's going to be a second season, but really, this entire series has been about watch these two guys chase after their dreams for 25 episodes. Now they're done it. So what's left, the romance?
The new editor?
I dunno, seems like we could be having an Arakawa 2 situation here: a second season that, while based on a great anime, has little to offer by way of story apart from "let's watch these characters you're familiar with ... doin' thangs."
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Wisp on April 05, 2011, 03:47:13 AM
All the discussion on here made my curiosity finally get the better of me and I started watching Madoka. I'm up to about episode 6 now and I think it is quite good.
I didn't find it TOO terribly depressing, despite how bleak it is, but a while after watching it a cloud of "bummer, man" descended upon me and I had to listen to Dragon Soul for three minutes to shake it off.
Also I FREAKING LOVE how trippy and surreal the witches and witchspace are.
Yeah, Madoka has a pretty slow, dark, and sad vibe to it. But somehow, it gets me thinking... (such as happiness and sadness "smoothening out" and the world staying in balance)
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: triangles on April 05, 2011, 01:39:03 PM
I think once you get to Ep 8-10 that Madoka really starts to go into "awww hell naw  :ohdear: :( :o " territory.

Is this the week it's coming back on the air?

Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: noodles on April 05, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
Korean nerd girl at work is going to burn a bunch of her anime onto DVDs so I can be a part of the whole anime thing again

I am so grateful ;_;
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Helix ⑨ on April 09, 2011, 02:26:56 PM
Wow... the ending of Yumekui merry was bad.... really really bad.

Either that or I missed something. They didn't finish off Parade so that Isana wouldn't lose her Dream. Then in the final fight Merry punches him into oblivion regardless and Isana doesn't lose her dream...? Also hated the whole 'Power of will = strength in the dream world' thing was just a lame excuse to be able to beat a clearly overpowered enemy so they could finish the series'
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Wark on April 09, 2011, 04:36:31 PM
Wow... the ending of Yumekui merry was bad.... really really bad.

They didn't finish off Parade so that Isana wouldn't lose her Dream. Then in the final fight Merry punches him into oblivion regardless and Isana doesn't lose her dream...?

Well, as far as I understand, people lose dreams only if their Dream Demon is actually killed, while Merry just "sends them back" to the dream world. She didn't deal with Parade earlier only because somebody (think it was Landsbourough, that clown-like demon, although I may be wrong here) said that Merry was killing the demons she tried to send back, so she was afraid to use her power.

But yeah, overall the ending turned out to be quite predictable, and
that "power of will" thing felt kind of cheap.
I mean, seriously, Chizuru irretrievably sacrifices her dreams AND soul to do absolutely nothing, while for Yumeji it's enough to "have faith" to win?!
Title: Re: The Winter 2011 Season for Anime Thread
Post by: Solais on April 09, 2011, 11:01:55 PM
I have finally watched the last 5 episodes of Fractal. I dunno. Yamakan said that he probably went insane because Fractale is a failure. Then, I may have gone insane with him too, because I feel Fractale is one of the best animes of recent times.

Now of course, it's not perfect, it should have got the ARIA treatment: ARIA was too only 13 episodes long, and while it was great, it wasn't much... then it got 38 more episodes, even if 13 episodes were cut from the plans of the last season due to directoral idiocy. Still, if Fractale would have been a 24-26 episodes long anime, it would have been one of the best things in existence.

Though I have to say, this was also the anime experience what was almost ruined by this thread, and me always spoiling myself. When I read this thread about the ending, I thought it will be a copout, or worse, and ending like "it was just a dream and Bobbie Ewing is taking a shower in the bathroom" (<- I know no-one will get this reference), however, while it was hinted those theories about mindscape and whatnot, it was still a good ending, without any bullshit. Not the best, of course, but not that idiotic either.