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Title: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 22, 2010, 09:45:22 PM
Okay, I think I should shut my mouth. But I can't. Why don't you tell me your thoughts...is Luna Child an idiot? I can't see her that way. Speechless, I can accept. Maybe shy. But idiot? Where the hell did that come from? In the manga, she seemed even smarter than Sunny Milk. Or that's what I think ( I read it a while ago, so...)
Sunny Milk is impulsive. Star is really smart. But I don't think that Luna is a nine...I just can't see her that way...
Tell me, can you?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Drake on August 22, 2010, 09:51:08 PM
Where are you even getting this from...?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 22, 2010, 09:53:50 PM
touhou wiki xD
And the fandom often mentions it...
Edit: But...Just tell me...What do you think?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Drake on August 22, 2010, 10:01:54 PM
Oh. Probably because

Out of the three fairies, she might be the dumbest one, or maybe she just relies too much in her ability to make sound vanish that she's often the only one who fails to escape.

"I often see her falling down in the middle of the road. She's kinda dull." (West side woodcutter.)

"Even though she could walk without sound, she was tip-toeing." (Anonymous)
One of the characteristics of dumbness.


She isn't very practical when it comes to the use of her ability, but she tends to abuse it often. Fairies in general aren't that smart. That's probably why.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: N-Forza on August 23, 2010, 12:03:58 AM
She seems more clumsy than stupid to me.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Esoterica on August 23, 2010, 12:13:45 AM
"Even though she could walk without sound, she was tip-toeing." (Anonymous)
I find this hilarious for some reason.

Anyway, it's pretty much because she relies on her power for everything, even if she doesn't need to or if it gives her away.

I'm more interested in how Sunnymilk is allegedly the smartest of the three.  Star seems considerably smarter most of the time.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 12:46:35 AM
Nah, Sunny just have the spirit of a leader. She has great imagination, though. Star is the smartest. Everytime they get busted, Star finds a way to escape.
I think that Luna is kind of "disconnected" from the world...or, spaced out, or however you want to call it...Partially because of her power...
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Kilgamayan on August 23, 2010, 01:55:14 AM
She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Esoterica on August 23, 2010, 01:58:55 AM
She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.
Three if Mr. Kirisame was feeling unfaithful one day.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 02:23:29 AM
Well, but, MOSTLY, she isn't THAT dumb...(not nine dumb...)
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Firestorm29 on August 23, 2010, 03:16:09 AM
I suppose that's the one thing I like most about The Three Fairy stories I've read so far, is that these fairies aren't as super dense as one could think from reading stuff like Akyu's writings about them.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 03:23:53 AM
I suppose that's the one thing I like most about The Three Fairy stories I've read so far, is that these fairies aren't as super dense as one could think from reading stuff like Akyu's writings about them.
Yes, I also like that. Luna is my favourite fairy (and I like her personality and other stuff), so, when I found out about Akyu's description of her, I...to put it simply, my face was wtf'd
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on August 23, 2010, 03:45:36 AM
She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.
Wait, what?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 04:10:08 AM
Wait, what?
My exact thoughts xD
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 23, 2010, 05:41:10 AM
man, will ZUN ever make a character that defies cliches/stereotypes?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Ayuka on August 23, 2010, 06:04:35 AM
I think this is pretty much the same case with Cirno, or any fairy really. It's not that she's dumb it's that she's childish and lacks common sense, like all fairies. However, calling her an idiot is easier than typing 'she lacks common sense' and in some cases funnier, so that's what people go with. It gets exaggerated in fandom, sure, but it's really a matter of common sense.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on August 23, 2010, 11:40:30 AM
She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

Wait, when did Luna get pregnant...?

...Can fairies even get pregnant? ???
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Myschi on August 23, 2010, 12:05:28 PM
Wait, when did Luna get pregnant...?

...Can fairies even get pregnant? ???

No freakin' idea, just as confused as you are.

And... I'd /guess/ so... maybe? I mean, like, if a fairy grew out of what-appears-to-be prepubescence, then they could. ... maybe?

It makes sense from a (normal) biological standpoint, but this is Gensokyo, so logic goes right out the window.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on August 23, 2010, 12:29:55 PM
No freakin' idea, just as confused as you are.

And... I'd /guess/ so... maybe? I mean, like, if a fairy grew out of what-appears-to-be prepubescence, then they could. ... maybe?

It makes sense from a (normal) biological standpoint, but this is Gensokyo, so logic goes right out the window.

I'm not sure. PM states that the size of fairies ranges from doll size to ten year old child size, and I don't think a child's body is capable of bearing a child. On the other hand, maybe fairies DO get grown up bodies, but they're just midgets. They wouldn't be much taller than children. Then fairies could conceive...maybe...

Or fairies just poof into existence instead of being birthed....
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Myschi on August 23, 2010, 12:46:48 PM
Or fairies just poof into existence instead of being birthed....

I think - for sanity's sake - we may want to go with this one...

But that's completely off-topic! (I think...) My guess is, because I've yet to read any of the Three Fairies manga or the translated dialogue from 12.8, this:

Star's likely the most reasonably intelligent one. Book knowledge and common sense, here.

Sunny's probably more along the lines of Cirno: overconfident as hell and likely to rush into things.

Luna... eh... I'm just gonna echo what other people've said. Not /stupid/, but not horribly bright and relies on her power too much. (because the sudden/complete lack of noise totally gives her away)


Edit: Basing my admittedly lame assumptions on what I've read about them on TVTropes and the wiki.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
I think - for sanity's sake - we may want to go with this one...

But that's completely off-topic! (I think...) My guess is, because I've yet to read any of the Three Fairies manga or the translated dialogue from 12.8, this:

Star's likely the most reasonably intelligent one. Book knowledge and common sense, here.

Sunny's probably more along the lines of Cirno: overconfident as hell and likely to rush into things.

Luna... eh... I'm just gonna echo what other people've said. Not /stupid/, but not horribly bright and relies on her power too much. (because the sudden/complete lack of noise totally gives her away)


Edit: Basing my admittedly lame assumptions on what I've read about them on TVTropes and the wiki.

Your assumptions are right, don't worry xD
Fairies are natural beings...Were they created alongside nature? Who knows...
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Myschi on August 23, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
Your assumptions are right, don't worry xD
Fairies are natural beings...Were they created alongside nature? Who knows...

Woo I'm correct!

Also, that's a good point. Someone, somewhere, threw out the theory that a fairy is directly tied to its natural counterpart (Cirno and ice, for instance) and that they'd disappear if that counterpart would 'end,' if you will.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Tengukami on August 23, 2010, 04:41:23 PM
She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

Nthing wanting to know what this is all about.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 05:06:56 PM
Woo I'm correct!

Also, that's a good point. Someone, somewhere, threw out the theory that a fairy is directly tied to its natural counterpart (Cirno and ice, for instance) and that they'd disappear if that counterpart would 'end,' if you will.

I would become a part of green peace just to save fairies, you know?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Savory on August 23, 2010, 05:09:37 PM
Actually, I think Luna's a bit more distant. To me she seems more like an expy of Patchouli.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on August 23, 2010, 05:12:09 PM
I think Kilga's just talking out his ass in the middle of a halfway-serious discussion.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 05:30:38 PM
Maybe he meant something we are not understanding?(Marisa: Is there something I'm missing?)
I won't say anything until I hear what he meant, so...
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Jaimers on August 23, 2010, 05:39:32 PM
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Luna's in- game portrait in GFW looks like she's pregnant.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 05:44:56 PM
 Oh THAT.
I thought she didn't look well, but that idea...never...crossed my mind...
but that's no reason to call her dumb...I think?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on August 23, 2010, 05:45:31 PM
lol taking artstyle-shenanigans literally :V
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 23, 2010, 06:00:10 PM
xD
Well, I guess that most of the people here don't think that Luna is a baka. I'm glad xD
And we agreed that she is distant.
ANOTHA MISSION ACOMPLISHED!
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on August 23, 2010, 06:19:58 PM
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Luna's in- game portrait in GFW looks like she's pregnant.

Wait wha-

/me observes Luna's portrait closely.

Wow...it does kinda look like she's preggers....and now I noticed the rather clever moon to sun patches on her dress.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Tengukami on August 23, 2010, 07:20:04 PM
Never assume a girl is pregnant because of a belly. It will lead to great embarrassment when you congratulate her on her child on the way, and she tells you she isn't pregnant. If Luna reveals her pregnancy, then and only then will we know for sure.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Savory on August 23, 2010, 07:29:55 PM
Never assume a girl is pregnant because of a belly. It will lead to great embarrassment when you congratulate her on her child on the way, and she tells you she isn't pregnant. If Luna reveals her pregnancy, then and only then will we know for sure.

Wait what does this have to do with the topic? xD Is someone implying pregnant girls are dumb?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Ayuka on August 23, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
Wait what does this have to do with the topic? xD Is someone implying pregnant girls are dumb?
No. He's saying don't congratulate someone who looks pregnant unless they tell you they are pregnant. That is, unless of course you're just a masochist or enjoy embarrassing situations.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Savory on August 23, 2010, 07:42:20 PM
No. He's saying don't congratulate someone who looks pregnant unless they tell you they are pregnant. That is, unless of course you're just a masochist or enjoy embarrassing situations.

No I mean what does Lunachild being pregnant have to do with her being dull or not?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Polaris on August 23, 2010, 07:43:05 PM
No I mean what does Lunachild being pregnant have to do with her being dull or not?

She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Savory on August 23, 2010, 08:25:27 PM


Why do I feel like we just jumped into a whole different topic matter all together.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Esoterica on August 23, 2010, 08:29:18 PM
I'm pretty sure he's referring to the fact that Luna's in- game portrait in GFW looks like she's pregnant.
What?  She-

Oh my God ZUN :V
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 23, 2010, 08:49:55 PM
She got knocked up in a world where we know of two humanoid males and we've never seen either of them as a companion to her.

I'd say that's pretty dumb.

that's like saying its stupid for a famous woman to be pregnant cuz no ones ever seen her with a famous man.

there are alot more males in gensyoko then the games show.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Tengukami on August 23, 2010, 08:52:04 PM
Are you implying that our dear Luna got knocked up by some ... common villager?!
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Drake on August 23, 2010, 08:52:51 PM
Yeah I know, the comments from the passersby in the written works confirms another maybe twelve men.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Arcengal on August 23, 2010, 09:00:10 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ZUN didn't do the character art for GFW?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Drake on August 23, 2010, 09:04:07 PM
Makoto Hirasaka.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Esoterica on August 23, 2010, 09:06:41 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought ZUN didn't do the character art for GFW?
He didn't.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 23, 2010, 09:07:06 PM
Are you implying that our dear Luna got knocked up by some ... common villager?!

no, I'm implying that not all faries are females.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Solais on August 23, 2010, 09:26:43 PM
Goddammit, now I have to take responsibility do I?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Tengukami on August 23, 2010, 09:28:04 PM
no, I'm implying that not all faries are females.

Ah, yeah, that.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Esoterica on August 23, 2010, 09:29:17 PM
no, I'm implying that not all faries are females.
You are now imagining a middle-aged mexican fairy with a thick mustache.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Savory on August 23, 2010, 09:34:37 PM
I'll get back on topic if no one else will.

Lunachild strikes me as someone who's distant and doesn't really care for all the nonsense that goes on. Like I said before, she seems to be an expy of Patchouli. The only thing that rules out my claim is the fact that she partakes her friends set up and just goes along with it...even though it seems she has to put up with the consequences of said pranks.

...Which would in turn make her a bit distant....wow it feels like my theory goes in circles.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Savory on August 23, 2010, 09:36:25 PM
I'll get back on topic if no one else will.

Lunachild strikes me as someone who's distant and doesn't really care for all the nonsense that goes on. Like I said before, she seems to be an expy of Patchouli. The only thing that rules out my claim is the fact that she partakes in the antics her friends set up and just goes along with it...even though it seems she has to put up with the consequences of said pranks.

...Which would in turn make her a bit distant....wow it feels like my theory goes in circles.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Iryan on August 23, 2010, 09:43:06 PM
You are now imagining a middle-aged mexican fairy with a thick mustache.
Actually, I am imagining a winged guy of Cuban descent sitten around on his lilypad.

A Rastafairy.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Tengukami on August 23, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
Actually, I am imagining a winged guy of Cuban descent sitten around on his lilypad.

A Rastafairy.

:uninterestedreimu:
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 23, 2010, 10:06:11 PM
except gensyoko is in japan. they are all japanese. being born in, and are from japan.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Tengukami on August 23, 2010, 10:08:23 PM
Is everyone in Gensokyo from Japan?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 23, 2010, 10:10:30 PM
YES! well, Yukari could say otherwise... but fairies only exist in gensyoko.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Esoterica on August 23, 2010, 11:10:45 PM
Is everyone in Gensokyo from Japan?
Remilia and Flandre aren't.  Meiling's of Chinese descent.  Sakuya doesn't appear like she'd be Japanese either.  Lunarians are from the moon oh wait moonrunes...

Yeah, they can't all be Japanese.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Bias Bus on August 23, 2010, 11:20:03 PM
Is everyone in Gensokyo from Japan?
Being japanese in setting you would think a vast majority of the yokai and folks living there are japanese in origin.

Of course there are those like the SDM crew who came from locations other than Japan and I do believe there maybe instances where foriegners are spirited away to Gensokyo (at least those who are in Japan at the time). Also, take note of Eirin, Reisen and Kaguya who's origins aren't even on the fucking planet.

Also, on the subject before this one, why the hell would you go to a danmaku fight pregnant?
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: orinrin on August 23, 2010, 11:36:36 PM
Also, on the subject before this one, why the hell would you go to a danmaku fight pregnant?
It's Gensokyo.  You shouldn't let yourself be bound by common sense.
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 24, 2010, 12:01:32 AM
It's Gensokyo.  You shouldn't let yourself be bound by common sense.
Common sense...Physics laws...Math...God O_O xD...Everything...
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on August 24, 2010, 06:14:27 AM
Actually, I am imagining a winged guy of Cuban descent sitten around on his lilypad.

A Rastafairy.
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/KimikoMuffin/miami-yeah.jpg) (http://dizzy.pestermom.com/instantCSI/)
Title: Re: Luna Child...baka?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 24, 2010, 08:28:36 PM
May I say something...?
THAT. WAS. EPIC. (I didn't notice that comment until now xD)