spellcards were invented so tragic deaths by danmaku could be avoided, such as Sariel and Konngara, and their minions. Mima was strong enough to survive though... Idk, I'm just tossing in another random excuse to explain why they were never seen again.
Insert heroine here tells Byakuren how danmaku duels work. Understood, she whips up spellcards, i.e. thought up some patterns and explained them. Made cards depicting patterns. Duel begins.
????
Makes sense, but... I don't know, I haven't personally been to that stage or seen the dialogue, but doesn't rational talking-stuff-over-and-explaining-things get thrown out the window in Incident Mode(tm)?Incidents are just series of duels that lead to a clincher. If everyone has to declare their spells before the duel, then you could reasonably say that if someone didn't know of the rules they would be informed. Besides, such incidents aren't typically urgent enough that the heroine would ditch the rules in order to solve it; that's the entire reason they made the spellcard duels in the first place.
Incidents are just series of duels that lead to a clincher. If everyone has to declare their spells before the duel, then you could reasonably say that if someone didn't know of the rules they would be informed. Besides, such incidents aren't typically urgent enough that the heroine would ditch the rules in order to solve it; that's the entire reason they made the spellcard duels in the first place.
Incidents are just series of duels that lead to a clincher. If everyone has to declare their spells before the duel, then you could reasonably say that if someone didn't know of the rules they would be informed. Besides, such incidents aren't typically urgent enough that the heroine would ditch the rules in order to solve it; that's the entire reason they made the spellcard duels in the first place.
Now imagine them immediately resuming the "RAWR EPIC" attitudes after they're done explaining it.I can't begin to tell you how hard I'm laughing.
I assumed that's how it went, yeah. However, just the same you have to wonder why AFTER ONE THOUSAND YEARS I'M FINALLY FREE, Byakuren becomes unsealed by Shou, kind of hovers on over to the heroine and OHH THE WORLD OF DHARMA IS FILLED WITH LIGHT. Totally believable reaction to being unsealed, yup.
If I remember right.
Spell cards first appeared in Touhou 4, then disappeared in touhou 5.
Before Makai was sealed.
If I'm wrong, PLEASE correct me, but I was sure that it was part of the plot.
She was just trying to be a badass by dying 8+ times before giving up.I have no idea why everyone kept killing Mokou in Imperishable Night though.
In reference to an earlier post, Spell cards DID appear before 6....you know, that completely slipped my mind.
Rumia was the first to use the Spell Card Rules, yes, but Spell Cards first made their debut in PoDD - all of the characters had access to Special Attacks which were referred to as Spell Cards.
Still doesn't account for Byakuren knowing about it 1000 years ago, but eh.
In that case, I think it's safe to say spellcards weren't exactly a foreign concept to her, as we don't know that PoDD was the actual first instance of them being used in Gensokyo.
Complicated answer: Shinki was pissed at the utter massacre that Reimu and the gang did to the residents of Makai in Mystic Square. Imagine...
After they left, she looked at the damage they caused and found dead Makai residents everywhere.
She retconned the whole franchised and gave the new Gensokyo the premise that Danmaku play is the standard way beating someone else up.
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Just a thought here, but maybe I've been putting my focus on when she was sealed instead of what it is to be sealed. Perhaps she can see and hear, maybe Shou et al have communicated with her, keeping her posted on Gensokyan developments.
It could be regular ol' talking or telepathy. What do we know about being sealed, after all?
Maybe "sealed" just means "immobile", so she couldn't move. Then a bunch of people in Makai shouted "DURR HURR BLAH BLAH BLAH SPELLCARD BLAH BLAH" and she made spellcards and other random things?
:V
Byakuren did say that she was stuck in a stone disk ala Kikuri. Whoever did that to her has a habit of doing that to women. Maybe she lost a duel with Shinki and got stuck in there or whatnot.It's possible.
Maybe she was Kikuri.(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6329/hiji2.png)
iirc rumia is the first character to ever use the spellcard system so yeah.
Spell Cards.
PLOT BE DAMNED.
Yumemi invented the system since she was the big bad of that game. Reimu kicked her out of Gensokyo and claimed it as her own.
Byakuren did say that she was stuck in a stone disk ala Kikuri.
But then, spell cards would need to be from the human world. Maybe they were there since before but they didn't have a name?
I know jack-all about Yumemi/her spellcard bit, but... that makes sense. I mean, the only thing we (by which I mean 'I') know about the human world (assuming it's the same time/dimension as Renko/Mary) is that strawberries are synthetic.Also not an expert on PoDD (or any of the 98 games, really), but didn't Yumemi come to Gensokyo because she was being laughed at back home for believing in magic? If that's the case I'd think she made/found spellcards herself and no one else wanted to have anything to do with them.
Who knows, maybe spellcards/danmaku in general was a form of entertainment over there, using sufficiently advanced technology. Which somehow got put into magic.
Yeah.
Also not an expert on PoDD (or any of the 98 games, really), but didn't Yumemi come to Gensokyo because she was being laughed at back home for believing in magic? If that's the case I'd think she made/found spellcards herself and no one else wanted to have anything to do with them.
Also not an expert on PoDD (or any of the 98 games, really), but didn't Yumemi come to Gensokyo because she was being laughed at back home for believing in magic? If that's the case I'd think she made/found spellcards herself and no one else wanted to have anything to do with them.She says something in her dialogue with either Reimu or Mima about her magic not being real magic, but something to do with...light photons or something like that. Given that she uses SCIENCE and not magic, I think it's safe to say she didn't invent spellcards.
Or maybe she found the spellcards in Gensokyo in the future and when she came back she brought them with her. Cue self-resolving time paradox.
She says something in her dialogue with either Reimu or Mima about her magic not being real magic, but something to do with...light photons or something like that. Given that she uses SCIENCE and not magic, I think it's safe to say she didn't invent spellcards.
Just because any one of them could have caused mass devastation doesn't mean they would have. They do keep all their stuff there, after all.Just dropping this by. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wh2CruhrKk#t=48s)
Just dropping this by. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wh2CruhrKk#t=48s)