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Title: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 01, 2010, 03:55:45 PM
I was reading Touhou WMG at TV tropes and I started thinking about powers at first glance looks plain yet if you start thinking about it and apply a good imagination, it can be quite powerful. So I started thinking what types of powers can fit this description and see if anybody can also think of some.

No OC's just plain abilities and how they can be really powerful.   
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Nobu on July 01, 2010, 07:52:19 PM
Just a reminder not to turn this in a powerlevel topic. i.e: 'X can totally beat Y because this power can do THIS!' Discussion of the creative and theoretical implications of powers is fine though as long as you aren't arguing about who is stronger than who.


That said, I could imagine Manipulation of Density really useful to aspiring physicists. It's like having an LHC in the palm of your hand. :3
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: RainfallYoshi on July 01, 2010, 07:59:46 PM
Manipulation of jealousy could theoretically be used to start World War III if Parsee felt like it. Imagine what kind of things would happen if every country was Parsee-level jealous of each other.  :V
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on July 01, 2010, 09:17:13 PM
I liked the WMG that Cirno's "manipulation of cold" could be interpreted as control over thermodynamics, making her reality-warping.

Of course, then there's Kogasa ...
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: ふねん1 on July 01, 2010, 10:10:11 PM
Nuclear fusion. Creating a legitimate star (as in, as big as those found in nature) would incinerate the planet in a heartbeat. Even smaller ones would tear through everything it touched without resistance.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: VIVItheFujoshi on July 01, 2010, 10:27:59 PM
i remember a thead in the imageboard who compared the characters from the Nasuniverse (Fate,Tsukihime) with Touhou charas, and the things who will happen in a duel of them. Someone compared the power of Rinnosuke with the power of Shiki-Nanaya Tonho.Well, the only thing in common are who the two are males, the two use glasses and their power is in their eyes, but...
that make me think in, if he would be more trained in his hability, probably will be capable of analise not only objects...maybe animal things (like bones; he actually can?t say from what animal is a bone) even persons...and here is the fun: then can know the name of that person...and THE PURPOSE OF THAT PERSON (OR YOUKAI, OR GOD, WHATEVER). know their motivations of live, talent, THEIR WEAK POINTS. Now add his actual knowledge, his hability with the creation of power focus artifacts (the mini hakkero...his own glasses? after all, the lens are used for correct anormal eye focus... with his glasses, improve his own ability? or maybe suppresed?) And he CAN analise names, at least the very full of meaning youkai names...http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Curiosities_of_Lotus_Asia:_Chapter_25  with only his knowledge and experience.
Happily he is more interested in other things and not danmaku or power.
(he is my dreamed MUST BE in Touhou 12, only because for see the face of the rest when he say "this no is a UFO, not a wood piece, not a snake scale or anything who you will think. This take the shape of the things who your imagination say.Is covered with a power who confuse us. How i can?t see now his true shape,but know who no is this the real thing, meanwhile i will called the Seed of Unknown" and the face of Nue when say who he know who is her and the seed all the time. XD)
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Sapphire Flame on July 01, 2010, 11:33:08 PM
I imagine that having Touhou characters working in tandem would produce even more catastrophic results.

For instance, take Cirno and Utusho. Utusho is essentially a living sun, implied to be capable of incinerating the earth if she felt like that and producing near unlimited energy. Cirno, as we all know, is the strongest being in all of gensokyo.

So put them together, and what do you get?

Cold fusion.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Nobu on July 02, 2010, 12:48:22 AM
Manipulation of Illness + Suika's infinite sake gourd = Party never ends! :toot:
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: orinrin on July 02, 2010, 12:57:09 AM
Manipulation of fate.  Uhh... yeah.  The ability to control every aspect of our lives seems pretty neat.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: shadowbringer on July 02, 2010, 03:30:48 AM
Luck charm (Tewi) = equivalent of Back To The Future (part 2)'s Sports Almanac
ability to perfom miracles (Sanae) = ability to create deluges, summon plagues.. (actually, the definition of miracle isn't clear enough, to prohibit new miracles, or to define which may not be a miracle. Summoning a Brahmastra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmastra) or winning against 100,000 celestial warriors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Wukong), for example.)
ability to make flowers grow (Yuka) = she could (if adverse environments aren't a limiter) reflower or reforest ( slowly, or rather quickly ) areas, making it easier for Minoriko to manipulate plenty and reduce the world's hunger
manipulation of wind (Kanako) = eolic energy, ability to prevent (or help prevent) tornadoes
manipulation of rain (Kanako) = potential source of potable water (after proper treatment)
manipulation of boundaries (Yukari) = could make anime/manga/comics characters real (for better, or worse), or make Lovecraftian deities real as well (for worse, by our irrelevant standards at cosmic scale :V ). I wonder if Deadpool would say that there's a fourth wall that we can't see :p
manipulation of darkness (Rumia) = could be stretched to exhaust the Sun's life
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on July 02, 2010, 03:32:01 AM
Thinking about it realistically, the power to see things in black and white would be terrifying, and could cause a heck of a lot of chaos and destruction. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: N-Forza on July 02, 2010, 03:44:47 AM
Quote from: KimikoMuffin on July 01, 2010, 09:17:13 PM
I liked the WMG that Cirno's "manipulation of cold" could be interpreted as control over thermodynamics, making her reality-warping.

Of course, then there's Kogasa ...
Maybe it's more like "manipulation of removal of heat"
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Esifex on July 02, 2010, 04:06:58 AM
If Utsuho were to focus her ability properly, do you think she could release electromagnetic furies?

I mean, the sun pumps out loads of radiation of all different varieties, electromagnetic being one of them. If she practiced, refined, and focused her power, she should be able to pick and choose what kind of radiation she emits.



And then you can kiss Hatate's cellphone 'goodbye'. :smug:
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: shadowbringer on July 02, 2010, 04:43:22 AM
Quote from: Tactician Esifex on July 02, 2010, 04:06:58 AM
If Utsuho were to focus her ability properly, do you think she could release electromagnetic furies?

I mean, the sun pumps out loads of radiation of all different varieties, electromagnetic being one of them. If she practiced, refined, and focused her power, she should be able to pick and choose what kind of radiation she emits.



And then you can kiss Hatate's cellphone 'goodbye'. :smug:

this makes me remember Escape from L. A.'s ending :D
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Sabino on July 02, 2010, 04:54:07 AM
Quote from: shadowbringer on July 02, 2010, 03:30:48 AM
manipulation of wind (Kanako) = eolic energy, ability to prevent (or help prevent) tornadoes
manipulation of rain (Kanako) = potential source of potable water (after proper treatment)
Thing about Kanako's ability is that it's not "manipulation of" but rather the "creation of" sky.
In that sort of aspect, Kanako and Suwako's abilities of creating something by mere will just punches law of conservation of mass/energy in the face as well as everything else that's connected to it.
(...All of physics... pretty much)
One ability that I find is also very interesting is Shikieiki's "Ability to decide right or wrong".
Does this mean that she can instantly decide between anything? If so, can she "decide the boundaries between the boundaries that others -mainly Yukari- messes with?"
If so, I can understand why Yukari chooses not to oppose -let alone be anywhere near- Shikieiki.
In a similar sense, I'm also very interested at Nue's "ability to hide the true form"...
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: orinrin on July 02, 2010, 05:03:50 AM
Quote from: Sabino on July 02, 2010, 04:54:07 AM
One ability that I find is also very interesting is Shikieiki's "Ability to decide right or wrong".
Does this mean that she can instantly decide between anything? If so, can she "decide the boundaries between the boundaries that others -mainly Yukari- messes with?"
If so, I can understand why Yukari chooses not to oppose -let alone be anywhere near- Shikieiki.
In a similar sense, I'm also very interested at Nue's "ability to hide the true form"...
I remember reading in one of the official works that Shikieiki is one of a few people that Yukari won't stand up against.  It kind of makes sense when you think about it now.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Demonbman on July 02, 2010, 05:09:46 AM
Using the Prismrivers music could do a number of great things, such as using Merlin could use her music to make the enemy so excited they spazz out and hurt themselves
Lyrica's Illusion notes could be used in the same way
Lunasa's Depressing notes could be used to make the opponent defeat his/her self

EDIT: Fixed I read the OP wrong
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 02, 2010, 05:13:31 AM
Suwako's ability to create earth can be seen as the ability to create solid matter and since she can shape it as she like's, she can, with a lot of studying, create any and all physical objects as well as the solid state of all matter. (think I'm stretching it to much with the last one)
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Demonbman on July 02, 2010, 05:17:43 AM
If Kanako and Suwacko wanted to, they could Create a whole-nother World! the only problem would be getting water there. Suwacko could also use her Earth creation to make Meteors that could crash into things
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: CK Crash on July 02, 2010, 05:35:36 AM
The gods are all powered by faith, so they're limited in that aspect :V

-Nazrin could probably find non-physical things like happiness, power, and the meaning of life.
-Hina collects curses, so she would be quite powerful if allowed to store them up long enough. One curse is dangerous enough, but hundreds?
-Remilia's manipulation of fate. If she willed it strongly enough, she could just say "you will lose", and that automatically becomes the outcome.
-Kaguya's manipulation of eternity and temporality means doing things instantly, or making things end instantly.
-Supposedly nothing is history until Keine declares it so. This is basically the opposite of Sakuya, allowing her to manipulate everything BUT the present.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Phlegeth on July 02, 2010, 05:39:34 AM
Shizuha could probably wipe out an entire forest by doing nothing.  Leaves fall off so trees can "hibernate" if the leaves don't die and fall off, they'd be taking nutrient from the trees in the dead of winter when they need it most.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 02, 2010, 05:50:35 AM
If Shizuha's connection to autumn to include metaphorical autumn, she becomes rather frightful. What does it mean to inflict autumn upon someone's mind or body, for instance? What is the autumn of an era?

Also: Za Warudo + Manipulation of the Eternal and the Instant

Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: game2011 on July 02, 2010, 05:59:53 AM
And that is why I prefer more canonical and realistic portrayals  of Touhou characters (if such portrayals even exist) in order to keep this whole power level business under control...
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 02, 2010, 06:18:40 AM
Well, the major presumption that they have enough power to actually pull anything off. It's kinda a Tellah situation; you know Meteo but lack the MP for it.

About the only ones with enough dakka to do that kind of thing might be the Devas, Yuka and Yukari; and that's if you accept the Yukari is the almighty god of everything interpretation as opposed to just wily and skillful.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: OkashiiKisei on July 02, 2010, 08:16:06 AM
All the matter that the Earth is made of originates from the sun. Even now our sun is creating new molecules and forms of matter within its blazing bowels. So, in theory, Utsuho could create any type of matter or convert one type of matter into another one. Utsuho is a walking Philosopher's Stone!

Rumia could cover the entire world in a veil of eternal darkness, eradicating all life. Alternatively, she can pull the darkness away to make something shine brightly. In hot areas she could cause a heat wave by merely removing all the shadows from the vicinity, leaving no salvation from the sun's heat (making her and Utsuho also a powerful match up).

Cirno can remove the cold of something or someone to make it/them spontaneously combust.

Patchouli, like Utsuho, could use her wood, earth and metal manipulation to create almost any kind of matter. No wonder Remi keeps her around: Patchy's the one who makes all the furniture and money!

Meiling could stop or remove your chi (life force) to immediately kill you.

Wriggle. Swarm of locusts. 'Nuff said.

Yamame. Black plague/AIDS. 'Nuff said. (Alternatively she could be the world's one and only cure-all by removing any kind of illness.)

Since alcohol is a type of poison Medicine could make you really, really smashed very easily.

Yuugi could summon extra terrestrial beings, undead, mythological creatures or even miracles with her power over the supernatural.

Suika could become bigger than the Earth...
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 02, 2010, 08:29:41 AM
Quote from: OkashiiKisei on July 02, 2010, 08:16:06 AM
All the matter that the Earth is made of originates from the sun. Even now our sun is creating new molecules and forms of matter within its blazing bowels. So, in theory, Utsuho could create any type of matter or convert one type of matter into another one. Utsuho is a walking Philosopher's Stone!

Depends, actually. With Fusion as we understand it, it wouldn't be anything heavier than iron, so a lot of the periodic table is beyond her. And if she's making a star from scratch, she'd be limited to only a few elements. Heavier elements came from stars that were form from the elements of previous stars.

Quote from: OkashiiKisei on July 02, 2010, 08:16:06 AM
Cirno can remove the cold of something or someone to make it/them spontaneously combust.

COLD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY GOOD DAY!

Just joshing you, but cold's an absence of heat. You can't remove cold any more than you can remove dryness.

Quote from: OkashiiKisei on July 02, 2010, 08:16:06 AM
Since alcohol is a type of poison Medicine could make you really, really smashed very easily.

Know what else is a poison? Chili Sauce. Chili Peppers are a kind of nightshade. So are potatoes. (you'd have to eat a whole raw potatoes, or like 8 cooked ones to poison yourself) So she could make you some bitchin' hot fries, too.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Sabino on July 02, 2010, 01:42:36 PM
A bit off topic but...

Quote from: Demonbman on July 02, 2010, 05:09:46 AM
Lyrica's Illusion notes could be used in the same way
If I'm not mistaken, Lyrica music and sounds are those that do not naturally exist in the world/sound that have become "extinct" -Thus they are illusions.
Also, on the contrary, Lyrica's music is the only "safe" one out of the three sisters.
(i.e. you won't be going "AHAHAHAH I CAN FLY!" or "...So depressing...I wanna die...")

Quote from: OkashiiKisei on July 02, 2010, 08:16:06 AM
Yuugi could summon extra terrestrial beings, undead, mythological creatures or even miracles with her power over the supernatural.

Yuugi's ability " to manipulate 怪力乱神", is as far as the word is concerned, phenomena that not even the word can can describe...
So, by saying aliens and mythological creatures and all, those are stuff that her ability doesn't do.

...To think of the chaos that over goes that... actually Yuugi's ability might probably be one of the scariest.
Also, going back to the "Knowing Meteor but not having enough MP" expression, scary thing is that Yuugi will probably have plentiful MP to use such a thing.
...Thankfully, knowing her she'd probably stick with either controlled danmaku or fist fights.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Nobu on July 02, 2010, 02:33:40 PM
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7661/suwaface.png) (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3564/mokouface.png) (http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9122/ayaface.png) (http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7665/nitoriface.png) (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/889/satoriface.png)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3382/captainplanet1.jpg)
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: theshirn on July 02, 2010, 03:24:11 PM
ohgod Satori saying Heart

ohgod
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Helepolis on July 02, 2010, 04:04:05 PM
Nobu, what have you done.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: 日巫子 on July 02, 2010, 04:18:26 PM
Quote from: Helepolis on July 02, 2010, 04:04:05 PM
Nobu, what have you done.

Something amazing.

On-topic:
Komachi's ability is manipulation of distance, right?  She could make a long fall very short, saving you.  On the other hand, she could easily make falling off a table really hurt.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: game2011 on July 02, 2010, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: Vita on July 02, 2010, 02:33:40 PM
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/7661/suwaface.png) (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3564/mokouface.png) (http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9122/ayaface.png) (http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7665/nitoriface.png) (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/889/satoriface.png)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3382/captainplanet1.jpg)
Tenshi and Koishi make better Earth and Heart to me.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: RainfallYoshi on July 02, 2010, 05:08:23 PM
Shou could bankrupt RInnosuke with her "power to attract treasures". This could also do some crazy things depending on what treasures Shou actually manages to get. Imagine if Flandre happened to misplace her Lavaetein.

Byakuren can use magic to increase her physical abilities. So theoretically she could punch a mountain into pieces or make herself into Gensokyo's Flash.

Nue's ability to use Seeds of Non-Identification to hide somethings true identity could send the world into some chaos. Imagine if she just decided to throw seeds on everything she wanted. Suddenly toilets are hot dog stands and street lamps are giant ogres. Eep.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 02, 2010, 08:26:17 PM
EARTH, FIRE, WIND, WATER, HEART. WITH OUR POWERS COMBINED...something, something.....CAPTAIN PLANET.

Edit: Ok back to topic.

Edit: continue the fun for a bit then back to topic
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Shizzo on July 02, 2010, 09:27:15 PM
Quote from: OkashiiKisei on July 02, 2010, 08:16:06 AM
Cirno can remove the cold of something or someone to make it/them spontaneously combust.

Actually, I think Letty mentioned in her interview that Cirno manipulates cold air.  I guess she can only make something not cold, but not really hot

Letty can control Cold itself, so I guess she could do this, not Cirno.  Plus, I think you can't make something burn without cold, as heat's an energy..

Although I think that if it was the oposite power (Manipulation of heat), one could take all the heat away and completely freeze something..

(Man, this just popped up on my mind and I'm scared; I hate physics!)
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 03, 2010, 02:50:08 AM
Reimu has the ability to fly freely...

Apparently, as Fantasy Heaven shows us, she can also fly away from reality, making everyone's powers basically moot...

For... thirty seconds? Then again, she has to put that power into the spell card rules, so she could probably sustain it for much longer (since any more than 31 seconds and nobody could capture it.)

Actually, no, she probably couldn't destroy anything with the level of power as nuclear fusion.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Kirin on July 03, 2010, 08:47:35 AM
Reimu's Fantasy Heaven is controlled by her. She can use it as long as she wants, she just uses it for play. If she should ever get serious, it's very likely that she's basically invincible.

On the note of something that sounds plain but could potentially be really powerful, a friend of mine once mentioned 'waves'. Normally, one controls waves of water to drown and crush the enemy, but pushed, the waves of time can be stopped, and the electrical wavelengths of your nerve impulses can be destroyed. You can be deafened as sound waves stop reaching you and the light wavelength basically disappears, leaving you blind. Waves of damn near any element (Patchy style) can be used as well, so... This actually sounds really damn powerful.

On that note, what is the proper definition of Shikieki's power? Can she decide between right and wrong? Or was it black and white? And I'm not exactly sure how powerful that ability'd be, could someone explain for me? The only way I can see her power being truly 'PBP' is if she has the ability to judge between yes and no, or truth and lies. What exactly she can judge is what will make up my mind on her power.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: atoms2ashes on July 03, 2010, 09:28:46 AM
Murasa and Kanako...fusion...

...Oh god, what HAVE they done?!
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Vicks on July 03, 2010, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: atoms2ashes on July 03, 2010, 09:28:46 AM
Murasa and Kanako...fusion...

...Oh god, what HAVE they done?!

You get The Flying Dutchman from POTC.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Chronometer on July 03, 2010, 09:51:01 PM
Quote from: kirinelf on July 03, 2010, 08:47:35 AM
...

On the note of something that sounds plain but could potentially be really powerful, a friend of mine once mentioned 'waves'. Normally, one controls waves of water to drown and crush the enemy, but pushed, the waves of time can be stopped, and the electrical wavelengths of your nerve impulses can be destroyed. You can be deafened as sound waves stop reaching you and the light wavelength basically disappears, leaving you blind. Waves of damn near any element (Patchy style) can be used as well, so... This actually sounds really damn powerful.
...

I'll just quote a professor of mine: "You are an electromagnetic wave"
Short explanation (I might be terribly wrong, quantum physics isn't really my strong point): According to de Broglie's wave-particle duality, basically any moving matter can be described as a wave, in accordance with the formula λ = h/p (λ=wavelength, h=plank constant and p=impetus). This is especially interesting if you consider the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which states that you cannot measure the speed and the impetus of an object at the same time, or only with so and so much uncertainty (formula: ΔxΔp≥(ℏ/2)). I remember a task where we had to calculate the uncertainty of position of a car moving with 100 km/h compared to the uncertainty of an electron and well, the uncertainty of the car was quite negligible.
Nevertheless you could theoretically calculate your own wavelength (given that you're moving) and define yourself as a wave. The wavelength  λ would be very small indeed, but still a wave. What could follow is left to your imagination I already regret writing that, someone will give me shit for being wrong... well, that's what happens if you hear about stuff without understanding it and goddamit, it's Touhou, there's no physics behind it...

@topic: I hope I can be forgiven to not add anything substantial to the topic, since I can't think of anything which hasn't already been said ~~ Oh well, let's see what I can come up with:
-Rin Kaenbyou: Power to carry away corpses. Is there a way to misunderstand that so it could be insanely powerful? I for once can't
-Yuugi Hoshiguma: Power to control supernatural phenomena. Basically anything we can't explain/can't be explained. Have fun thinking about it (I surely won't)
...

Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 03, 2010, 11:05:08 PM
Clearly Yuugi is Yog Sothoth.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: KrackoCloud on July 04, 2010, 03:00:39 AM
Yukari can control the border between victory and loss to always win fights :U
Reisen might be able to control heartbeats, which are often portrayed as waves. She could also control radiation waves, seismic waves, ocean waves, and probably lots of other stuff.
Komachi could create distance in a relationship? She could also create chaotic inflation or something, which would be cool.
Nazrin and Shou could have the ability to find/attract anything so long as someone thinks it has worth (treasure)?
Yuyuko could invoke the death of a concept or idea?

It's already hard to discuss a lot of characters, because so many already have explicitly broken abilities.

Now, I'm wondering how Sikieiki's power could be broken. The ability to judge things absolutely doesn't really have any practical destructive use, does it?
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Nobu on July 04, 2010, 07:34:15 AM
Quote from: Chronometer on July 03, 2010, 09:51:01 PM
-Rin Kaenbyou: Power to carry away corpses. Is there a way to misunderstand that so it could be insanely powerful? I for once can't

Rin could change the face of the world by altering ecosystems and foodchains, hoarding all the slain animals so carnivores eventually starve and die out, leading to an overpopulation of herbivores and a domino effect that leads to the END OF THE WORLD.

Alternatively, she could just do things the medieval times way and use corpses as weaponry to spread disease and demoralize opponents.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: AJS on July 04, 2010, 09:39:41 AM
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Flandre yet.  I mean, come ON!  "Destruction of anything and everything"???  If she really wanted to, and perhaps if she refined that ability, she would literally be invincible.  She could destroy any bullets, projectiles, or any other threats that were coming towards her.  She could instantaneously destroy her enemies instead of "fighting" them.  In fact, she could probably even destroy the whole Earth just like that. 
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 04, 2010, 09:49:14 AM
The problem with that is you tend to have to be fast enough to realize you're being shot at, figure out where it came from, and then counter it. It's only as good as your processing speed when you using it to stop something.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: OkashiiKisei on July 04, 2010, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: KrackoCloud on July 04, 2010, 03:00:39 AM
Yukari can control the border between victory and loss to always win fights :U


Expanding on that, Yukari could use the border of strength and weakness to nerf all her opponents, border of shape and form to to change the opponent into a harmless lil' creature or use the border of existence and non-existence to utterly erase her opponent.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: trancehime on July 04, 2010, 01:17:47 PM
Quote from: KrackoCloud on July 04, 2010, 03:00:39 AM
Nazrin and Shou could have the ability to find/attract anything so long as someone thinks it has worth (treasure)?

So two entities alone have the ability to manipulate the economy of the entire world.

Somehow.

In a roundabout way.

That's vaguely scary.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: Solais on July 04, 2010, 05:59:10 PM
If we can expand on the idea of Sanae granting miracles, even if Yukari changes the border of win and lose, it would be a *Miracle* to win against her, thus making Sanae's power as the "power to counter everything". The Universe is being destroyed? It only needs a *Miracle* to save it! So on.
Title: Re: Plain yet oh so powerful
Post by: AJS on July 04, 2010, 10:31:19 PM
Quote from: Purvisen Silver on July 04, 2010, 09:49:14 AM
The problem with that is you tend to have to be fast enough to realize you're being shot at, figure out where it came from, and then counter it. It's only as good as your processing speed when you using it to stop something.
In the real world, that'd be a problem, but in the world of danmaku, it's easy to spot and identify incoming projectiles.  :V