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Title: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 08, 2010, 02:33:40 PM
Anyway This place is a place to suggest ideas for FF related things, you can post your ideas if you are unable to do Danmaukufu yet, but do not expect us to agree with whatever suggestion you have, If the suggestion is concerning the Project in the Making I promise you I will take it in some censideration, but if you are to only post suggestion for a Script/Pural/Plasma Stage I suggest you hope some-one will take it in interest (like a scripter or graphic designer).

I do not condemn any suggestion, but I will not promise you anything either.

If you are a FF fan and wish to post your script that are related in FF in any way, I'd like if you post it here (but yet again I have no right to say such thing), if you want to... since this is a forum dedicated towards FF fandom.

(  :ohdear: I hope I don't sound too offensive... or mean, It's just I can't promise anyone anything if it doesn't concern the project)

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Project: Final Fantasy X Danmaku(fu)

FFX Project makers

Kylesky: Scripter

RavenHexer: Graphic Maker( + sprites) + Scripter for Seymour & Lulu

Kyaksa: Plot, Dialogue and Player Sprites (- minus Mima's Sprite)

We're are a decent group and we're working together in this project, If you'd like to join in help making a Crossover with Any Type of Final Fantasy I-XIII, I'd be happy, Whether it's a RPG or a Danmakufu one... >: D Tis awesome. However, It doesn't really matter as long as you enjoy making it.

PS: :3 Since we're working on it, I thought I edit the Forum Title and First post... DX

PSS: Anyway I hope there more FF fans XD (But we're in 2  :3 Makes you wonder... nvm people might be busy)
PSSS: *Embarass, hids in a corner*

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Touhou and Final Fantasy 8O... Seeing are favorite childhood heroes/villians doing damnaku... or an RPG with an Ultimate crossover DX...

Why has no-one though of it? I would die to get a group of people an make a storyline... >.< But I shouldn't suggest this unless I've yet to learn either using Danmakufu or RPGMaker... learning how to make sprites and so on...

But I would die if this could come true....

Especially if it has the Turks...

Though I only know FFVII and FFX (x-2 never existed in my world). We could even do Dissidia but meh...

Anyway one with skillz is interested?  :ohdear: Oh well... Just suggesting it... if anyone is interested XD
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 08, 2010, 03:26:56 PM
A lot of people are already making touhou RPGs... but yeah, no one thought (or said they were thinking of) mixing FF in it... (although I've used FF music in my danmaku already)

I'd like to help with this if a team gets assembled... although, I don't think danmaku can be put into RPGmaker :V

It'll have to be in danmakufu... I have a few vids of an RPG-system in my youtube account (http://www.youtube.com/user/kyle090594)... I've stopped working on it, but I guess I can use the code to help with this thing...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 08, 2010, 05:42:31 PM
LOL... I was suggesting of well... Let's make Either a FF Damnaku or an RPG with a mix of FF characters and Touhou characters...

^^; But if you were to help/make one of these what Final Fantasy would you crossover?

PS: LOL... are names are pretty similar XD
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Garlyle on June 08, 2010, 06:27:12 PM
^^; But if you were to help/make one of these what Final Fantasy would you crossover?
Why pick just one?  I doubt you'd pick only one Touhou game's cast to involve.
...Well I say that, but there's a huge tendency in the Touhou fangame community to only make stuff with EoSD's cast... @_@
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 08, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
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Why pick just one?

 ??? I was just asking a small question of curiosity. Anyway I would put FF i know XD since I wouldn't want to make a bad Danmakufu/RPG IC of any character.

ESOD is... the best of the best... it was the start of the Windows era and Cirno and Meiling rock <3...

XD I would love to put as many characters as possible.... but Touhou has like more than 50 and 1-13 have something close to 40 D8.... So some characters would be Minor, Cameo, Supportive, Playable, changable.... etc etc... XD

PS: I'm starting to watch a tutor of RPG Maker VX <3... and I already downloaded it 8D Now.... >.< alll That I can hope for is that some ppl are interested in FF....

 :ohdear: Still... I would die to see Reno doing Damnaku ( or cloud...) XD He would be so bitchin' with ya... acting all lazy but kicking your ass unexpectabl-ily XDDDD

;3 But....  :] I would love to make the Out-of-the-box commentary of Touhou  always gives us XD in confrontattion of certain situation of the Characters of FF
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 09, 2010, 01:53:08 AM
1-13 have something close to 40 D8

I've only played 8, 10, 10-2 and 12 (sorry for never playing 7 :V) and I can think of

8: Squall, Quistis, Selphie, Zell, Irvine, Rinoa, Cid, Seifer, his 2 guys, Edea, Ultimecia, that other girl who keeps on finding Squall forgot her name... that's 13, and it's more or less only the main cast
10/10-2: Tidus, Rinoa, Auron, Wakka, Rikku, Lulu, Khimari, Peine, Seymour, the 4 summoners, Tidus' dad, etc

Don't even make me go to 12 :V

I'd say FF has around the same, or even more characters as Touhou...

EDIT: I'd love to see Diamond Dust in danmaku form... although I already have an idea of how it would look like :V

Shiva would go to the top center of the screen and fire a laser (around 1/2 master spark width) downward... while the laser's shooting, blue icicles creep out sideways and they move up a bit when they're near the edges of the screen... Laser ends and Shiva does her "snap" thing... All the icicles shoot up and fall down... That would be awesome :o
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 09, 2010, 07:57:42 AM
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EDIT: I'd love to see Diamond Dust in danmaku form... although I already have an idea of how it would look like

Shiva would go to the top center of the screen and fire a laser (around 1/2 master spark width) downward... while the laser's shooting, blue icicles creep out sideways and they move up a bit when they're near the edges of the screen... Laser ends and Shiva does her "snap" thing... All the icicles shoot up and fall down... That would be awesome

 :3 That- That is amazing D:

Would it kind of be similar to Marisa's Master/Final Spark/Canon Last Spell in IN were she spams you with Stars and continues to shoot her large Laser :3?

I know FFX (and if we did FFX Let's pretend FFX-2 never happen 8D.... it would make FFX stay to it's wonderful true self V-V) I would have for stage:


1st Stage
Wakka

2nd Stage
Rikku

3rd Stage
Lulu

4th Stage
Aurora

5th Stage
Yuna (Magic spells: All the Aeons!)

6th Stage
Tidus

>8D I don?t care what people think? Tidus is just as awesome as most FF heroes


Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 09, 2010, 12:03:55 PM
Would it kind of be similar to Marisa's Master/Final Spark/Canon Last Spell in IN were she spams you with Stars and continues to shoot her large Laser :3?
I guess...

also, it's Auron... not Aurora :V


EDIT: If this is gonna be a normal Touhou game with just FF characters (I think that's how you suggested it in your last post), if someone could come up with ideas, a storyline, may be sprites and other graphics... I guess I could do the scripting/part of the scripting...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 09, 2010, 12:31:17 PM
:D Actaully I'll do the story line XD Maybe even help suggesting Non/Spells attacks

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also, it's Auron... not Aurora

 :) I failed big time... anyway been a whiole since I've played FFX but I do love the character (though not big fan of Rikku).

I Might try to learn spirting for the sake of this 8O... since I'm still learning alot of shit with RPGMaker VX.... putting in ATB/side veiw battle... DX it's painful and harsh.... TT-TT It's going to take forever!!!

Anyway... I'm thinking of learning how to make simple sprites for Danmakufu... nothing that big of a complication.

But one question....

For each stage how many spells is needed for each? I know 1st stage is 2 non spells and then 2 named spells

But after that @.@ it becomes to hard to do the mathematical deducations Of how many spells to make artiscally... Titles.... DX


Can you help me with the number of spells each for each stage? Like how many spells for each stage.... @.@.... it's really hard.

PS: I hate this message board DX!!!!! It keeps going up!!! When I write!!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 09, 2010, 01:11:42 PM
Normally, the number of nonspells/spell cards for each stage's midboss and boss are like this:

Stage 1 Midboss: 1nonspell, 1spell card(on hard and lunatic only)
Stage 1 Boss: 2nonspells, 2spell cards
Stage 2 Midboss: 1nonspell, 1spell card
Stage 2 Boss: 2nonspells, 3spell cards
Stage 3 Midboss: 1nonspell, 1spell card
Stage 3 Boss: 2/3nonspells, 4spell cards
Stage 4 Midboss: 1nonspell, 0/1spell cards
Stage 4 Boss: 3/4nonspells, 4/5spell cards
Stage 5 Midboss: 1nonspell, 1spell card (with the exception of tewi)
Stage 5 Boss: 4nonspells, 5spell cards
Stage 6 Midboss: 1spell card
Stage 6 Boss: 5nonspells, 6spell cards
Extra Midboss: 3 attacks (1nonspell, 2spell cards OR 3spell cards)
Extra Boss: 8nonspells, 10spell cards

Also, so I guess the enemies would be moogles, chocobos, cactuars, flans, those bombs that explode after 3 hits, etc? XD those are just of the top of my head

And... I don't think Valefor, Ifrit, Ixion, Shiva, Bahamut, Yojimbo, Anima and the Magus Sisters can fit in one stage 5 boss :/
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 09, 2010, 02:05:17 PM
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Stage 5 Boss: 4nonspells, 5spell cards
And... I don't think Valefor, Ifrit, Ixion, Shiva, Bahamut, Yojimbo, Anima and the Magus Sisters can fit in one stage 5 boss

Well... We could make it that Some of the summons are Non-spells.... :\ if we really wanted to put them all in. Tenically you find 5/6 of the Aeons in the Canon plot but if you search for them you get all 8 which I believe are the last three.

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Also, so I guess the enemies would be moogles, chocobos, cactuars, flans, those bombs that explode after 3 hits, etc? XD those are just of the top of my head

 L O L... That's so true... Urgh,,, I'm playing FFVII at tthe moment and I EEFFing hate those bombs DX

Anyway.... For background.... I can't really draw all that much but This is the closes thing I can call decent background, what do you think:

http://www.bghq.com/textures.php?game=ro

DX.... up to you if you wanna use ripped background or not... But Two things are certain.... I will make the plot and sprites (give or tgake two weeks...) but I'm probably going to ripped BG and Music for the game.... I hope it doesn't bother you ._. ....


It's still crappy background... I'll look for better.... D: But what scares me is trying to make the Aeons.... DX Too much texture... it's scary.....

Anyway I would go....

3rd Stage Mid boss To be a Moogle,  5th Stage midboss to be aeon and 6th stage boss to be Yuna again with another Aeon.... :3 (are Aeon problem is sloved... we may only miss 1 aeon though.) But the 2nd Stage could have the catctus or Bomb....

You know.... The Cactus, bombs and most of the FF icons seem  to fit better with FFVVII or FFVIII but not FFX with the exception of the Moogle.... don't you think X3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 09, 2010, 02:10:46 PM
You know.... The Cactus, bombs and most of the FF icons seem  to fit better with FFVVII or FFVIII but not FFX with the exception of the Moogle.... don't you think X3
I hope you haven't forgotten the arena in FFX

Area Conquest has Cactuar King... and species conquest has a bomb...


Also, I think it would be better to just make something like an organized list... also, we could talk about some stuff over pm
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 09, 2010, 02:27:12 PM
I don't think I went to the arena that much L O L... Because I don't remember that at all XDD but sounds really wacky and almost evil ( >.> Bombs.... my greatest enemy)

Alright Alright.... I'll fix some things up before I PM you.

I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THOSE THAT ARE READING, IT BE AWESOME IF YOUR INTERESTED TO HELP :3

PS: I just want you all to know.... :D
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: RavenEngie on June 10, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
I can't believe NOBODY has mentioned VI / III yet! My gawd. Hell, knowing my tendancy to do things on a whim, I'll probably make my own version of it. :V

Meh, I love all of them ESPECIALLY VI AND IX WHY ARE THEY NEGLECTED! DX
But I'd be happy to help with anything. I was already trying to somehow make an ATB system for danmakufu. But that's sitting on my computer about 1500 miles away. :V

Just one thing, please. LEAVE OUT THE UBER BOSSES I DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT PENANCE EVER AGAIN OR ANY OF THEM FOR THAT MATTER! DX

Oh god bombs I hate them. I got killed so many times escaping from Home when it was being attacked. And then that giant snake thing... Evrae? DX
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 10, 2010, 09:23:42 PM
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Oh god bombs I hate them. I got killed so many times escaping from Home when it was being attacked. And then that giant snake thing... Evrae? DX

D8... The damn snake.... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-------------- God.... I was loooking all over the eeefing net to buy a stable for my Chocobo and I learned after a while(long while....) I had to get a chocobo without a stable so I eefing had to get chocobo.... the always run away in a half-hour or more so.... DX ARGH.....

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I can't believe NOBODY has mentioned VI / III yet!

>.>.... But we did mention FFVIII.... D: I don know so things about the game (loooked it up) but I've never played it.

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Hell, knowing my tendancy to do things on a whim, I'll probably make my own version of it.

:D Welll.... MOre FF love the better XD....


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I was already trying to somehow make an ATB system for danmakufu. But that's sitting on my computer about 1500 miles away.

L O L.... THat... would be unnesscery X,D Seeeing how Touhou's realtimje XDDDDD

But anyway.... I just wanted to a suggestion of doing Danmauku of our beloved childhood hero's/games/Villians of the FF era.... XD.... :3 But group help makes it faster XD!!!


ps: PS: D8< Why do we have such sucky writtting boards?!... I mean really.... D,8 I can't read what I'm writinng.....

Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: RavenEngie on June 10, 2010, 09:49:19 PM
L O L.... THat... would be unnesscery X,D Seeeing how Touhou's realtimje XDDDDD

Well, I'm somehow managing it, as far as I can remember. Oh, yes. I had all but the player's skill support done (apart from the scan spell. It was easy. :V). Came to Italy before I could get it coded, but the rest of it's there. HP, MP, attack gauges, EXP, stats, elements, items, popup windows, stuff like that. But it's slow. As. Anything.

>.>.... But we did mention FFVIII.... D: I don know so things about the game (loooked it up) but I've never played it.

Kefka is NOT Ultimecia. KEFKA IS FAR BETTER. SAY OTHERWISE AND YOU WILL DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE AND DIE AGAIN! UWEE-HEE-HEE!

Also, I just noticed this...

3rd Stage
Lulu

4th Stage
Auron
3rd Stage
Lulu

What. Lulu's the BEST Black Mage EVER in a FF game. Excepting Seymour, of course. I mean, c'mon! HER OVERDRIVES ARE COMPLETE OVERKILL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. [/Lulufantardism]
Personally I think even Extra's not awesome enough for her. :V

Meh, whatever you pick. As long as I can burn/explode the player, I'm happy. Dibs on Lulu and/or Seymour if they're in game, though. : V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 11, 2010, 02:44:23 AM
ULTIMECIA IS AWESOME

you beat her by drawing her own spell and using it against her :V :V :V

Also, I never really liked Lulu :ohdear: WAKKA+ATTACK REELS+99,999 DAMAGE PER HIT = PURE AWESOMENESS
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 11, 2010, 09:24:23 AM
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What. Lulu's the BEST Black Mage EVER in a FF game. Excepting Seymour, of course. I mean, c'mon! HER OVERDRIVES ARE COMPLETE OVERKILL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. [/Lulufantardism]
Personally I think even Extra's not awesome enough for her. 

8D I loved Lulu for Black Mage?. I agree she awesome?. V?V But really I put her third stage because She?s not wholly important plotwise but strong enough to get third place?. Since Yuna and Tidus are like the  actual plot they deem last and also AEON WILL EAT YOU ALIVE! And nothing beats Auron badassery That?s why he?s Fourth.

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WAKKA+ATTACK REELS+99,999 DAMAGE PER HIT = PURE AWESOMENESS

:derp: So true?.

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Came to Italy

8D You moved to Italy too??! Do agree with me that the grammer in Italy EEffing sucks? Because I hate it D8<!!!! Where?s my simplicity?! The horror!!!

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Meh, whatever you pick. As long as I can burn/explode the player, I'm happy. Dibs on Lulu and/or Seymour if they're in game, though. : V

:3  Seymour? He was another sexy villain like Sephiroth, just less strong?. I?m one of the few people who were not annoyed with him? but he always came back for more? XD

You can have Lulu if you want :3 But make it like going to Stage Three? Meaning Fairies/Ghost/monster?. D8 I say we rip them from the damn game?. TT-TT?. Anyway remember follow the set of rules of spells for each Stage?. (with the exception of mid-life spells that can be added in my opinion). And remember the moogle!!! :D

Btw Who do you want to be our playable characters? I would only make two since :3 I saw how eeefing hard it is to even make a playable character DX. I think Reimu?s canon choice (as so is Marisa?) Are we going to do it Canon Style? Or do you have a particular character you want to become playable?

PS: I thought of asking an Extra to fulfil the Touhou Style but one thing? Who would be Mid-boss and Boss?

I selfishly want to put Reno as the Extra boss since Gaia is the world Spiral and Zanbkard are in?. The boss from the far future?. But that may not go well with FFX base? So if not reno?. Which Character would you choose to be an Extra?

The only characters left for the Extra are Jecht, Braska, Seymour, Yevon/Sin (? I don?t wanna do Yevon to be honest!) and maybe some-one else I forgot.


Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 11, 2010, 12:11:14 PM
The only characters left for the Extra are Jecht, Braska, Seymour, Yevon/Sin (… I don’t wanna do Yevon to be honest!) and maybe some-one else I forgot.

Honestly, I was thinking for extra... Seymour midboss, Braska+a bit of Jecht AND Auron for boss (since they're his guardians... Braska should alse be able to summon that 2-phase jecht, a.k.a. Braska's Final Aeon)

also, the player scripts don't have to follow the reimu, marisa staples... you can't imagine how creative one can be with player scripts...

EDIT: also, if we're gonna make a phantasm, how bout changing some stuff...
EDIT2: what happened to khimari? possibly a midboss I guess? (and can't rikku be lower than wakka T_T)
EDIT again: I loved seymour too :V I literally had to do that fight inside sin 3 times (meaning I beat it 3 times, not I died 2 times) before continuing XD
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 11, 2010, 12:36:28 PM
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Honestly, I was thinking for extra... Seymour midboss, Braska+a bit of Jecht AND Auron for boss (since they're his guardians... Braska should alse be able to summon that 2-phase jecht, a.k.a. Braska's Final Aeon)

My Sir... This is perfect! D8 I would love it! it has pratically everybody!

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EDIT2: what happened to khimari? possibly a midboss I guess? (and can't rikku be lower than wakka T_T)

V-V When I first wrote it.... I was just thinking Wakka is the first person you meet... you know the 1st stage feel.... D8< I feel offfended by my own stupidity!!! Stage 2 characters are loved by all!! Parsee/Cirno/Mystia How could I've been so blind?!

And anyway I agree Wakka is just as awesome... So he goes 2nd stage... To be honest I use to like Rikku but FFX-2 DX It has ruined any feelings I had for her.... But she really weak with her cocktails and so on... so she's perfect for 1st stage. Too be Honest... I don't know what to do with Khimari... He's pretty quiet... I would make him a Mid-boss if anything...

PS: FFX-2 ruined many beautiful things of FFX? They destroyed Yuna and Rikku and took out Lulu? and Brought back Tidus!!! WHICH IS AWEFUL?. I love the saddest scene? They won but in return they have to lose something and seeing how Tidus and Auron were already dead when they arrived in Spira.

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EDIT: also, if we're gonna make a phantasm, how bout changing some stuff...

Change what, exactly? I?m open to all? But I?m firm in dealing is the plot? D8 That?s all I ask for.

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also, the player scripts don't have to follow the reimu, marisa staples... you can't imagine how creative one can be with player scripts...

To be honest? I really would like Hong Meiling But--- ^^; Plotwise I?d use either Keine, Reimu, Marisa, Mima and Aya? But if I had to go against the normal Canon Touhou Style The characters I?d try to fit in is: Hong Meiling, Keine, Aya, Mima and maybe, just Maybe Shinki?

>.< But I say massime 3 characters? But since this is a group project We should all decide who?s going to be a playable character (once we do that I?ll start writing the plot).

PSS: I hope I haven?t forgot anything :3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on June 11, 2010, 01:03:22 PM
they didn't remove lulu :V

she got pregnant :derp:

EDIT: if it's any help... I'm listening to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE0nlhpdq8) right now :V I know you'll like it XD
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on June 11, 2010, 01:23:23 PM
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she got pregnant :derp:

 :derp: Well... doesn't stop it from sucking

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EDIT: if it's any help... I'm listening to this right now  I know you'll like it XD

X3 It's a good instrumental....
Title: HOLY SH--
Post by: Kyaksa on June 26, 2010, 05:45:27 PM
 :o :o :o :o :o : :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:

This must be the first site I have ever went where there are actaully more boys than there are girls D8

I feel like my mind is blown....
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 15, 2010, 03:36:13 PM
This is to Kylesky ( if your interested too Raven you can look) Please give it a look... I kinda want to do like the Momiji-midboss style... This is a sketch ^^; Bad one at least, but do you think the spell okay?

PS:Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 14 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
- Shoiuld I worry about this? They're not going to delete it or anything, right?

Ah... The space between the Spirals should be tight but not too tight. It's in the attachments
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Kylesky on July 15, 2010, 03:45:22 PM
This is to Kylesky ( if your interested too Raven you can look) Please give it a look... I kinda want to do like the Momiji-midboss style... This is a sketch ^^; Bad one at least, but do you think the spell okay?

PS:Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 14 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.
- Shoiuld I worry about this? They're not going to delete it or anything, right?

Ah... The space between the Spirals should be tight but not too tight. It's in the attachments

hmm... why did you not just pm it? :V

I can't check it right now since I'm getting my computer fixed and other stuff (maybe in 2-3 days, sorry for the to-be long wait...)

Also, Hele won't delete this unless he deems it to be spam or something else that's useless :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 15, 2010, 03:54:03 PM
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  hmm... why did you not just pm it? :V

V-V Because in PM's I can't find the attachment button... or I'm pratically blind D8

PS: I edited the title... >.< and first post... It's kinda too late to ask but should I had posted our group :3 In the FFX project... I don't see the bad but since I was at our forum, I wanted edited before I forgot.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Alpha Werewolf on July 15, 2010, 04:43:33 PM
*fansquee* ahem.

If you want to fit in all the Aeons into one stage 5 boss, consider making something similar to EoSD stage 4 Patchouli - the first four aeons will always be the same (Valefor, Ifrit, Ixion, Shiva) and then the fifth will vary depending on character/sign, assuming four total (respectively Bahamut, Yojimbo, Anima, Magus Sisters).

Lulu should totally not be a stage 3 boss. Stage 4 minimum.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 15, 2010, 05:00:14 PM
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Lulu should totally not be a stage 3 boss. Stage 4 minimum

:) She's the best Black Mage in all of FF but still In my opinion
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What. Lulu's the BEST Black Mage EVER in a FF game. Excepting Seymour, of course. I mean, c'mon! HER OVERDRIVES ARE COMPLETE OVERKILL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. [/Lulufantardism]
Personally I think even Extra's not awesome enough for her. 

8D I loved Lulu for Black Mage?. I agree she awesome?. V?V But really I put her third stage because She?s not wholly important plotwise but strong enough to get third place?. Since Yuna and Tidus are like the  actual plot they deem last and also AEON WILL EAT YOU ALIVE! And nothing beats Auron badassery That?s why he?s Fourth.

But after that... 8D Another FF fan (yay!)!

Which were your favorite FF?
 Mine were X (X-2 Never ever existed), VII and I'm becoming a fan of FFIII (DS)

EDIT: Your going to have to wait for Kylesky's reply... But I think we already got a way though. But thanks for the idea/suggestion
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Alpha Werewolf on July 15, 2010, 05:25:53 PM
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Which were your favorite FF?
Mine were X (X-2 Never ever existed), VII and I'm becoming a fan of FFIII (DS)

Tough call. I'm gonna call it a tie between XII, X, X-2, Tactics and IX(though I haven't finished that one yet...only on disc 2). Although, I haven't played XIII, and only played a bit of III, V, VI.

EDIT: Hang on, there's no Cid in this thread. Stage 1 should totally be fought on the  Fahrenheit, with a Cid midboss (or rather, the ship itself - salvos like in the few Airship battles in FFX), and then Rikku can be fought on the Fahrenheit's deck.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kylesky on July 16, 2010, 11:59:37 AM
I was pretty much already set with the 5 storyline aeons during stage 5, magus sisters during stage 6 midboss... and yojimbo and anima going somewhere else :V

Actually... whatever you guys want if fine with me, as long as it makes sense and I get to at least script diamond dust (I have a cool idea)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 16, 2010, 12:15:57 PM
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and yojimbo and anima going somewhere else  :V
I just thought about it right this moment but... Seymour+Anima, he had it in the begining, no? We're only missing Yujimbo (but I don't really care.)

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EDIT: Hang on, there's no Cid in this thread. Stage 1 should totally be fought on the  Fahrenheit, with a Cid midboss (or rather, the ship itself - salvos like in the few Airship battles in FFX), and then Rikku can be fought on the Fahrenheit's deck.

 :ohdear: ... I'm not sure... that would kinda need a moving BG or a really good spriting background so... I would say no, and also I'm only a VII/VIII Cid fan... VII that Cid was like no other (but I could be wrong). It's creative as an Idea but we already thought of a 1st stage midboss... @o@.... But using an airship as a Background... that would be a bit similar to PDD and UFO even if it's a first stage... well it would be unique like Satori (the leader who's not the 6th stage). I could like the idea... but ^^; idk.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Alpha Werewolf on July 17, 2010, 11:35:39 AM
Yojimbo is a hired bodyguard, more than an Aeon - you can fit him in any stage as a midboss. Hell, make him a Death Fairy on stage 5.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 24, 2010, 09:35:48 AM
Hey... I just notice below ythe name of the character, there should be a character ttitle...

>.< I can only think of these two/three Ttitles:

Rikku; The Honest Liar Al Bhed

Auron: A Spirit That Travels the Borders of Life and Death

Tidus: The Fleeting Dream

Anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on July 24, 2010, 05:02:49 PM
so what, this isn't going to be a crossover? especially since alot of things from earlier games have sprites already...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 24, 2010, 07:44:12 PM
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so what, this isn't going to be a crossover? especially since alot of things from earlier games have sprites already...

o-o? Of course it's a crossover, one of the projects in the making is between FFX/Touhou

>.>????
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on July 25, 2010, 02:00:51 AM
I meant final fantasy crossover. you know, with random final fantasy stuff from each... but I'm an FFX fan so no biggie.

oh, and some of the enemies like cactuars have sprites from the 2d games so you could use those.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 25, 2010, 03:43:19 AM
ah, we're probably going use weak enemies (like the fairies, ghost and strange flying object *SA*) we might use the spirites from FII and something , but nothing ascertain but we've already thought of that :)

Most of the project we're talking about within the three of us, ^^; Of course we still have much more to do V-V L O L....

PS: You know what's sad? FFIII(DS) is so much more difficult because there's no magical revive like there is in FFVII and Phoenix Down is much more rarier so you have to be careful not to die D8! But the sh**** thing is I'm at the end of FFVII but I need certain Meteria not to suddenly die and I failed to give almost everybody their final weapon, so I have to use one character to Lvl up all the unmastered Meteria DX ARGH!!! How the hell was I suppose to understand that their final weapon won't lvl up their Meteria?! >.> I want to play FFVIII but I need to finish FFVII, hmm >.<

Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on July 25, 2010, 08:06:02 AM
when it comes to final fantasy, know that the people who somehow manage to acquire everything used a guide, cheated, or have way too much time on their hands.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on July 25, 2010, 12:59:46 PM
That is the very truth of every RPG... 0-0...

But to aquire everything? LOL.... that downright impossible unless you actaully care that much, all I want is to finish The Last Moutain without immediatly dying. I was expecting strong enemies not K.O enemies, which is a bitch to fight... you have to be extremely lucky not to eeffing die when they do thier Death attacks DX God Damn you Nomura!!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: RavenEngie on August 01, 2010, 01:39:34 PM
Hi all. Been a long time since I was around here, but I was strongarmed into redecorating a house.

Since my graphics tablet all but blew up, I haven't made progress on the spellcard-calling portraits past the sketchy lineart, and you told me to wait until the dialogue was finished before I started on the portraits for that.

BuI've started spriting a bit instead, and I've got idle poses for everyone done. Just a regular 4-pose one, nothing fancy. I can sprite, but it takes me a while.

Scripting-wise, I've got a pyrefly script done, just the graphics, don't know what you're going to do with them, I've got Lulu and the Moogle scripted, and two of Seymour's cards done, didn't know if you wanted me to put in Anima or not.

But I was thinking about the aeons, you said you wanted them sprited, but bejeesus, I take ages with regular boss sprites. So I was thinking maybe I'd draw them instead? It would take 1/100th the time, but it's your choice.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 01, 2010, 06:57:18 PM
^^;; I should say sorry for not finishing the plot yet, I have the idea and everything but I keep redoing all of the dialouge until it's just right. The important part is keeping IC + Touhou style (at least most of the time.)

:\ Well it's you who can do the graphics, so I can't really tell you to do something your don't want to... But What would a drawings look like in a Danmakufu? If it isn't that much of an eyesore I can truly care less, do what you want to do.

Btw as for Anima, I'm not sure, it was suggested but I'm curious of what Kyleskse thinks to be honest. We don't really need all the Aeons, but at the same time it wouldn't be a bad idea to have them all. So if you like or not, tell me... I don't really mind if Anima is in or not (btw Anima, Ifirt and Shiva are ftw XD), but you and Kyleske can decided... if you have an idea or not for Anima use it *shrugs*

:3

D8 Why did your graphic table die, though? Was it old, did it fall or did it just die for no explain reason whatsoever?

 :ohdear: Must be horrible.... (Those things must cost to at least 500$ or more)...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 01, 2010, 08:34:53 PM
If you put in Seymour Omnis (his final form), could you use the actual battle music? That would be pwnsome. I've always loved that final battle.

How is the battle with Yu Yevon gonna work?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 01, 2010, 08:46:25 PM
 :ohdear: I don't think we exactly have Yu Yevon... I don't actaully want to put him in the game, he will be mention or talked about but as far as I'm concern. Yu Yevon is not needed, but Seymours forms don't really take in account Yu Yevon even if he does transforms in all his forms, which are around 2/3  :V

Raven Hexer does all of stage 3 and Seymour... We've deicded to use Braska, Jehct and Auron as the Extras... We already talked about it in page 1... I'm pretty sure about it.

Kyleske!!! You never responded to me what you thought of the Khimari midboss spell >.<!!! And like I said before I doubt there's attachment in PMs.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 01, 2010, 11:04:13 PM
aww, no Yu Yevon? but come on! the two pillars could be a miniboss of some sort, and then Yu Yevon could be this pwnsome evil eye sigma like extra boss. perhaps as a phantasm?

anyway, if Yu Yevon made it in, he'd be one of the, if not, THE smallest bosses ever made. all you really have to do is draw an orb with a glowing Yevon symbol on it, take about 10 different cards (cause it's FF 10) and slap them on... okay, I make it sound simpler than it actually is, but taking Yevon out is like taking the Angel Sephiroth form of 7s final boss.
(oh, and the Yu Yevon comment I made in the other post had nothing to do with the Seymour one)

and how do you mean Yu Yevon isn't needed? He's the source of Sin itself. He's the whole reason Lady Yunalesca started the whole final summon thing!

and I can't help but notice that you're talking an awful lot about the good guys as if they were enemies. I'm really sorry if I'm sounding critical, but if you want to do a final fantasy X danmaku, you shouldn't really change the story. especially adding braska in, Jehct makes sense, because you fight him right before you fight Yu Yevon, Auron makes sense, too. Even though he's a goodguy... but braska was dead before tidus even got there. The only time they even saw him was on the spheres they recovered.

and storywise... you should seriously stick to the canon story as much as possible. cut out alot of the unneccissary stuff, but for god sakes, you can't cut out the important bits.

This is pretty much a list of what I think is required for a FFX-Danmaku hybrid:

stage enemies are various fiends, powerful stage enemies being fiends like malboro or something

First Seymour fight (perhaps a midboss seymour, then a midboss anima, then a boss seymour)

a couple aeon fights (doesn't matter how many)

Lady Yunalesca fight

Final Seymour fight

Sin

Jecht

Yu Yevon

(I can't remember all of the important storyline bosses, but you get the gist)

playable Tidus (perhaps Yuna too)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: RavenEngie on August 02, 2010, 01:32:20 AM
Unless you completely change the dialogue every time, wait until you're done. I just need a general idea of the emotions portrayed.
And it had an encounter with a wall. Little bro.
Puremrz showed screencaps, ages back, of his hand-drawn graphics in danmakufu. They looked not half bad. :V
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Seymour Omnis? Can you say... Last Word? :3
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You make good points, Phantasm, but I felt that Yu Yevon was almost an afterthought, like Necron in IX, but at least Yevon had some part in the story. I'm against it, because I get the feeling this is more mid-late story than endgame.
I've done some Fiend sprites as well, just the bombs so far, though, and I'm puzzling an oversoul system out.

And I'm against your changing-the-whole-idea (sorry, I'm blunt when tired), simply because I'll have to chuck away about ten hours of work.

But, going back to mah Seymour Omnis Last Word idea, I am putting Yuna in her wedding dress if we do Last Words. :V
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Sorry, had to squish post. On phone. DX
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 02, 2010, 06:15:24 AM
last word? awesome. shame I won't get to hear Seymour Omnis's theme, but oh well.

but how the hell is Yu Yevon an afterthought? He's the guy behind Sin! A summoner so powerful that he managed to reduce his body to a mere orb in order to summon the greatest fiend of all time in order to start a religion with Lady Yunalesca!!!! That's like calling Flandre an afterthought! or any other of the Extra bosses for that matter (except for alice in Touhou 5). If he were an afterthought, his name wouldn't have "Yevon" in it, and he wouldn't have the Yevon insignia on him, and the pillars wouldn't appear until he does!!!!! The REAL afterthought is the whole Omega Weapon and the Omega Dungeon thing. It was cool, but it was just thrown in for kicks. You can play the entire game without even knowing the Omega Dungeon exists. But you'd have to have not been paying attention to the game in order to have been surprised by Yu Yevon. shame that he was pretty weak, though. They worked harder on Omega than they did on Yu Yevon. and he's probably the character that involves the least art. sphere, shaded color, google the insignia and recreate it, done. though the pillars could just be a rough sketch...

as you can tell, I'm a BIG FFX fan!

oh, this gives me an idea: FFXIII danmaku! It's perfect cause the story is linear enough to pick the random unimportant things out! which reminds me: saying Yu Yevon is an afterthought is like saying Orphan is an afterthought.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kylesky on August 02, 2010, 10:48:52 AM
oops... sorry for being in a different time zone :V

Anyway, from what I remember, what we've talked about so far is that stages 1-6 will have the playable characters from FFX themselves, while extra will have seymour's 3 forms as the midboss and braska with jecht and young auron as the boss...

As for the story line, I'm not sure how kyaksa's fitting everything in... Though, I do remember that we somehow agreed on using certain FFX themes (INCLUDING seymour's theme during the fight inside sin, and I think assault too and some others)

About the khimari spell... I don't remember where it was anymore :V (repost or link it please :D) Also, my danmakufu's been broken lately, and I'm trying to get it to work again (I think it's a problem with my sound driver) so I may not be able to use danmakufu for a few weeks...

Also, it's fun seeing my name misspelled 3 times :3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 02, 2010, 11:10:05 AM
LPS Yu Yevon is important in the FFX, but honestly we're not re-creating FFX... The Bosses are FFX characters, we Have three Touhou characters who are all playable. I'm making a storyline that will mention Yu Yevon but the thing is Yu Yevon isn't that desireable and of course this Storyline is connected to FFX (we have the Bosses for that very reason), but We speak most of the plot among us three *which I've yet to give out to RH and Kylesky*, since I want to surprise the audience of the FF fans (like you and Alpha) and hopefully not give you a crappy plot or lack of any or all Touhou vibe... That's why I'm still stuck editing it plus... I'm still stuck drawing the other two players.

And anyway Making the FFX plot in 6 stages would just not be physically posssible and would be crappy within itself. It's like Deen with Higurashi/Umineko.

Kylesky X,D I'm sorry I failed at remembering spelling your name. I'll attach it now, please tell me here or on PM.

Btw... You guys want to do Last Words? Would that be something you'd put in all the three story scripts? :3 LOL... Interesting...

Is you computer old Kylesky? I always had problemsw with my computer sinbce it was more than 8 years old... so I had to change it. But of course nobody has money to but a new computer.

I may have forgotten something but I can't remember what...  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: RavenEngie on August 02, 2010, 12:48:46 PM
I tend to sorta blur out religious stuff anytime I hear it, so I probably wasn't paying much attention to the whole Yu Yevon thing. (Didn't pay much heed to Yunalesca either... All I can remember is her flipping out when Yuna refused the Final Summon.)
Ha ha, old chap. I dare say I'm a bigger one with too much time on my hands. I've done pretty much everything.
I jyst hope the Aeon Battle theme's used. Now THERE'S a boss theme and a half.
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I've already got the structure for the menu done, so it would be simple enough to add in a Last Word option. (Haven't tied on any graphics yet, but I've got an idea.
Also, I've got the Oversoul thing done... Ish. It works fine for what I've tested so far, and I'd like to see your opinions of it, but my mobile modem's getting repaired. Hence the phone.

Right... Literally back to ze drawing board for me. :3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 02, 2010, 11:11:38 PM
aww I totally lost interest. :ohdear:

well, thats an exaggeration. also: oversoul was only in FFX-2.

Last words don't really have dialogue btw, so their's no need to worry about that

(serious stop saying ha ha, old chap. It's really annoying and nobody talks like that!)

also heres a tip: if you are having a tough time making the story good, something is being done wrong.

another thing: no matter how you edit the story, having Braska and young Auron in it makes no sense whatsoever. and what do you mean 'Yu Yevon isn't desirable'? the thing that makes a character like him is how well his bullet patterns are done! Take for example, Sariel and Konngara. Those characters had no dialouge whatsoever, yet they are still well appreciated characters. and Koakuma, she was just supposed to be a lowly servant, but she has fans. you need a mysterious character who is not mentioned at all, and just appears out of nowhere. That's what makes something with a shaky story good.

@RavenEngie: wow, really? I'm not a religious person, and I tend to ignore real life religion, but in a completely not-real videogame?! You just missed the entire story, man! and the Aeon Battle theme? what do you mean? the one where you fight your own Aeons in order to reveal Yu Yevon's form? or is there a special theme that goes with that one lady's battles. You know, the one you meet in order to get the Magus Sisters...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: RavenEngie on August 03, 2010, 12:59:22 AM
Either you managed to get through the entire game while killing less than thirty enemies per enemy group, or I'm distincly mistaken about having my ass handed to me about twenty times by Oversoul Bombs while escaping from Home. Hmm.

And Kyaska's likely got the story good ages ago. Making it great is the problem.

Bullet patterns for Yu Yevon. Hmm. A character whose only form of attacks I remember are to possess your aeons and heal himself. Great fun. Especially when the playable characters don't have aeons.

And I know I said blur it out, but I didn't completely. I only did that with the heavy stuff. Evil religions are way too overused, I'm sorry to say, Yevon fans.

And I can't remember if it was Belgemine's battles or the final ones... Sounds like the Yevon chant in the intro.

Oh, and actually, I've started to say "Ha ha, old chap!" when I want to annoyingly make a point. So, ha ha, old chap! You're wrong there.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 03, 2010, 07:24:35 AM
coming from the one who couldn't remember who Yu Yevon was, I'm not surprised you don't remember him attacking.

Seeing as pretty much NOTHING in FFX fires bullets, your point is invalid. ha ha, old chap. :P Seriously, though. His lack of numerous attacks isn't the problem. the problem is that you fail to see that at least Yu Yevon has attacks that can be transferred into Danmaku ones. unlike Tidus, Auron, and Wakka sort of. The point is that your going to have to make most of them up.

and FFX had no oversoul system. that was FFX-2. perhaps the international version that added the new game+ had one...

and the song you're thinking of is the Yu Yevon's first theme. When you have to beat your underpowered aeons with your overpowered weapons in a couple hits tops. Personally, I like
Yu Yevon's second theme better, but that's likely just a preference thing.

Evil religion overused? the only other game I can think of like FFX that uses that is real life. :P Seriously though, no one really cares about the religion, It's just the whole idea of Yu Yevon's character that I like. A character whose only desire is to summon... and apparently to destroy things, since he knows Ultima.


Also: I don't want to come across as a whiner whining about "I want Yu Yevon, WAAAH!" because that's not what I'm doing. Sure, I want him, but I'm saying- OOH!

IDEA: you said there were three playable Touhou characters, right? What if Yu Yevon's first couple Gauges were the characters you aren't playing as, and the last two gauges would be a normal attack with Yu Yevon's true form, and a short spellcard with his Ultima attack, and the last one would probably be this over the top thing based on the kick-ass way he died. (It would still be a spellcard, just based off his death)

...sorry about that, I got that idea right as I was typing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kylesky on August 03, 2010, 11:37:12 AM
The khimari attacks look pretty ok, but really... there's no real way to see until it's put into danmakufu :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 03, 2010, 12:41:52 PM
I have the story, I have the major plot... The fundamental(sp?) thing about Touhou though is the actaul dialogue... I have to write it in a way that in some sense has  the Touhou vibe but also has the feelings of FFX.

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The khimari attacks look pretty ok, but really... there's no real way to see until it's put into danmakufu

:3 okay....

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Also: I don't want to come across as a whiner whining about "I want Yu Yevon, WAAAH!" because that's not what I'm doing. Sure, I want him, but I'm saying- OOH!

 :derp: Well... You do have valid points, I won't just throw them away without taking notice... The problem is though, how is he going to fit in the actaul story plot? Because The only thing I can think of is... Using Yu Yevon as the Last spell of the Extra stage, since he is the reason Everybody died (Jetch becomes sin, Braska dies, Auron is a unsent who holds a consciuse and protects and take cares of Tidus).

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IDEA: you said there were three playable Touhou characters, right? What if Yu Yevon's first couple Gauges were the characters you aren't playing as, and the last two gauges would be a normal attack with Yu Yevon's true form, and a short spellcard with his Ultima attack, and the last one would probably be this over the top thing based on the kick-ass way he died. (It would still be a spellcard, just based off his death)

-3-... Other than I don't understand why he be the other characters (plus we or I mean RE would have to make front sprites too....) and also... Either he be a Last Spell,, Because I doubt we could fit that into the Extra.

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Last words don't really have dialogue btw, so their's no need to worry about that

(serious stop saying ha ha, old chap. It's really annoying and nobody talks like that!)

;O;


Also... I never said anything about Dialogue for the Last Words *a bit angry*

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Evil religion overused? the only other game I can think of like FFX that uses that is real life.  Seriously though, no one really cares about the religion, It's just the whole idea of Yu Yevon's character that I like. A character whose only desire is to summon... and apparently to destroy things, since he knows Ultima.

Evil reglion, Evil organization, Evil Anything have all been overused =.=.... There doesn't exist original Plot.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: RavenEngie on August 03, 2010, 02:52:15 PM
You are dead set on getting him into this game, aren't you, LPS? :V
If the boss wants to do it, I'll gladly make the sprites. (Hell, it's nothing compared to what I'm doing already. ._.)

coming from the one who couldn't remember who Yu Yevon was, I'm not surprised you don't remember him attacking.
No, the reason I don't remember him attacking is that he got off one Gravija attack before I killed him. That, plus the fact you cannot die makes it seem completely pointless other than the beating the big bad thing. I didn't even know he could cast Ultima until I looked it up. ._.

and FFX had no oversoul system. that was FFX-2. perhaps the international version that added the new game+ had one...

and the song you're thinking of is the Yu Yevon's first theme. When you have to beat your underpowered aeons with your overpowered weapons in a couple hits tops. Personally, I like
Yu Yevon's second theme better, but that's likely just a preference thing.
So you're right... Why the hell do I still hate going through Home in FFX then... Probably got something madly mixed up. :derp:
One hit. I'd all the Celestial Weapons all powered up, and the sphere grid complete for everyone... Yeah, wayy too much time on my hands. :V

I have the story, I have the major plot... The fundamental(sp?) thing about Touhou though is the actaul dialogue... I have to write it in a way that in some sense has  the Touhou vibe but also has the feelings of FFX.
I think you need a proofreader... I never think my stuff's good enough either. :V

:derp: Well... You do have valid points, I won't just throw them away without taking notice... The problem is though, how is he going to fit in the actaul story plot? Because The only thing I can think of is... Using Yu Yevon as the Last spell of the Extra stage, since he is the reason Everybody died (Jetch becomes sin, Braska dies, Auron is a unsent who holds a consciuse and protects and take cares of Tidus).

-3-... Other than I don't understand why he be the other characters (plus we or I mean RE would have to make front sprites too....) and also... Either he be a Last Spell,, Because I doubt we could fit that into the Extra.
Like I said, if you want to, I wouldn't mind, since it'd shush probably the only person to like Yu Yevon ever. :V
But no, seriously. I wouldn't mind doing it. Could be a Phantasm stage that diverges from the usual Touhou formula, instead it'd just be a few small fiends, then Yevon. Or something. THIS IS WHY I DON'T WRITE STORIES! DX

Evil reglion, Evil organization, Evil Anything have all been overused =.=.... There doesn't exist original Plot.
There does. Ones which people haven't dared to try yet. Can't bring any to mind, otherwise I'd be making it right now. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kylesky on August 03, 2010, 03:50:12 PM
One hit. I'd all the Celestial Weapons all powered up, and the sphere grid complete for everyone... Yeah, wayy too much time on my hands. :V

I never even got to power up all my celestial weapons (got all of them, but was only able to get both the crest and sigil for 3 or 4 of them), and my file was around 240 hrs :ohdear:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 03, 2010, 05:29:56 PM
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Evil reglion, Evil organization, Evil Anything have all been overused =.=.... There doesn't exist original Plot.

There does. Ones which people haven't dared to try yet. Can't bring any to mind, otherwise I'd be making it right now.

=.=... Originality in it's raw form no longer exists, you make original things with old meterial but they will never truly be RAW Originallity
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 03, 2010, 07:59:06 PM
The answer to where Yu Yevon fits: Phantasm stage. Although coming up with a midboss could be tough... perhaps no midboss, like stage 6 in Touhou 10. Or maybe Yevon in his spirit form would be the midboss, and it would be like the Nue midbosses in Touhou 12.

about the originality thing: the only reason things aren't original anymore is because mainstream gaming is being nuked by FPS's and other such games that have no plot and are all the same. When I become a game designer, I've got a helluva universe all set up! All it needs is game... and a whole lot of people I can yell at to get working on it :P

anyway, back on topic. The dialouge could vary from stage to stage, as the game progresses, the characters would get more used to the fact that they are in Gensyoko and stop brining it up. The first boss would be all "what the hell? where am I?!" and the second would be "this is an odd place..." and so on. the player, depending on who it is, could be all "whoever heard of a male fighter?!" or something, and the player would be informed that there are a few males in the group... having the characters react like that would make it seem more like a "woa, how did we get here? I guess we'll have to (insert plot here)" situation instead of a "we have to do this! even though we have no idea where we are" situation... you probably aren't looking for major things like that though.

Since I'm a freshly graduated grammar nazi (lol) I'd be happy to proofread it, I'm assuming you're looking for more than that though. replacing various phrases to phrases that X character would likely say. Keep in mind that the FFX characters don't need to talk Touhou like..
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 03, 2010, 08:12:15 PM
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about the originality thing: the only reason things aren't original anymore is because mainstream gaming is being nuked by FPS's and other such games that have no plot and are all the same. When I become a game designer, I've got a helluva universe all set up! All it needs is game... and a whole lot of people I can yell at to get working on it

:D I hope you luck... And if you really create some type of originallity that even more awesome.

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Since I'm a freshly graduated grammar nazi (Ha ha, old chap!) I'd be happy to proofread it, I'm assuming you're looking for more than that though. replacing various phrases to phrases that X character would likely say

LOL I love writting but to be honest I'm such a noob in grammer (thank god for Word for the spelling as you can obivously see). I so fail, It will take me years before I reach a decent level of writting... Pitiful... And I want to be a writer too

I would love your help :D But Then we have to PM between one another... you don't mind being the 'last' person I give the plot to, do you?

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Keep in mind that the FFX characters don't need to talk Touhou like..

Well... Actaully... It depends... But you'll only understand if I give you the Plot script.

The problem though still remains that Originality is something that is made of 0%, Like a type of style of writting or gamming, plot elemants that never been used before, no and whatsoever of Clich? of any shape or form :| So... can you make a world out of 0%? that is the question of Originality.


PS: LOL... I'm so inspired by umineko, forgive me.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: RavenEngie on August 03, 2010, 09:41:16 PM
The answer to where Yu Yevon fits: Phantasm stage. Although coming up with a midboss could be tough... perhaps no midboss, like stage 6 in Touhou 10. Or maybe Yevon in his spirit form would be the midboss, and it would be like the Nue midbosses in Touhou 12.
This is like what I said earlier. Little stage, big boss. :V
Don't get any ideas about thinking of Yunalesca. I canNOT be bothered attempting to draw her, never mind sprite her. I will stab you repeatedly if you think of that. Seriously.

about the originality thing: the only reason things aren't original anymore is because mainstream gaming is being nuked by FPS's and other such games that have no plot and are all the same. When I become a game designer, I've got a helluva universe all set up! All it needs is game... and a whole lot of people I can yell at to get working on it :P
The ONE good FPS, I think, is Team Fortress 2. Which doesn't even try to have much of a storyline, and it's good because of that. I don't like people trying to tell me things while I'm murdering. :V
And you ain't the only one who's worked on a universe. I've got piles of stuff saved for when I have more time and less exams. :V

:D I hope you luck... And if you really create some type of originallity that even more awesome.

The problem though still remains that Originality is something that is made of 0%, Like a type of style of writting or gamming, plot elemants that never been used before, no and whatsoever of Clich? of any shape or form :| So... can you make a world out of 0%? that is the question of Originality.
The only people with true 'originality' are the ones locked away in mental asylums, or heading there, or on drugs. Or the ones who don't succumb to the prudish, limiting expectations of the real world. But in the literal sense of the word, there is no originality in the universe, though it's far too expansive for us to have gone through it in less than a few hundred thousand years. So, good luck to you, LPS. And me as well, ha ha...
I also hear you're learning Danmakufu, how's that going?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 04, 2010, 01:06:01 AM
meh, God gets lazy.

and about learning... I tend to say things like "learning" when I actually mean "am going to learn" which I'm not sure, because I saw some pretty scary math is a script I looked at. No, seriously, you could put it in a horror film and people would SCREAM!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (merely a suggestion at the moment)
Post by: Marco on August 05, 2010, 09:24:45 AM
I want to say something too!I love Final Fantasy and Touhou and this idea sounds great! But I think, for the character, don't pick them from only one geme; like Dissidia Final Fantasy the game could be a mix of all Final Fantasy, well not all but many... In firsts stages could be good character as ....uhmmmm... test youre straight! If there are 6 stages there are too 6 boss and 6 midboss, 6+6=12 so more cherecter could be added right? Like Lunatic midboss' spellcard could be used in easy mode (why not?why only lunatic midboss can have them?).In lasts stages evil character, most evil in extra...What do you think of Kefka? It's like Fladre but he WANT destroy "everything and everyone". Even some swordman (main characters have alweis a sword, but Gilgamesh with fake sword can be funny..can be added with attack like youmu's. Or maybe will be better with Touhou midboss and Final Fantasy boss with similar attacks (like I saw before).the Emperor can be nice too! Well this are my ideas I hope you like it...[but Kyaksa....that name......can be....!!!!!]
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 05, 2010, 10:33:35 AM
:3 Newbie... I'm glad you like FF and Touhou, but honestly there's one project at the moment. This Forum is will take ideas for anything but also... We need scripter helps and graphic designers if you want to suggest stuff like that.

Kylesky and RE have promise to help in a collaboration in the FFX - Touhou project with me as the plot/dialogue director. This is a team project and we all decieded to make this project together. We as a group will only take suggestion for that project, until we're finish we may or may not stay together to do more FF projects (But I have doubts about that).

Once this project is finish, it's really up to Kylesky and RE to decied whether or whether not to help out. I've yet to learn how to Damakufu but I've decieded I'll learn it once this project is finish.

^^; I don't mind the idea at all but we already have our hands filled with the FFX project.

:) Anyway It's always nice to have some-one new.

PS: I don't mean to sound arrogant or mean, it's just it's already a hassle doing this project, I should fix the First Comment again  :ohdear: . We accept any other projects concerning FF-Touhou mix, I don't even have to help with the project but only as long as your happy doing it (^^; Very unlikely people would do that but still... since we're FF related XD I really feel like I'm being arrogant but I'm not it's just). Post your ideas if you wish, but don't think we can do mutliple projects at the same time.

PSS: I'm sorry for any misunderstanding  :ohdear: I hope you can forgive me
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Marco on August 05, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
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(One project in Making)
um-mm... sorry sorry sorry!!!!! T_T I think you gathered ideas..... sorryyy!!!!!! For forgive me I... I think I am good with photoshop.... and I know to make something with danmafuku...I don't want to meddle in your project, but if you need help [no maybe she needn't, I am only an obstruction for professionist].However sorry again ..
*run away*

PS I don't want to go off-topic but...Kyaksa.....are you English\American? [Can be really...]
PPS don't consider seriously ideas of a crazy old man.....
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 05, 2010, 10:54:19 PM
wow calm down. your acting like you just disrespected royalty or something.

seriously though, one FF at a time is better. Some Final Fantasies may not be good for this at all... like... that one that isn't good. (if I get specific, I'll just be contradicted)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 05, 2010, 11:03:26 PM
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um-mm... sorry sorry sorry!!!!! T_T I think you gathered ideas..... sorryyy!!!!!!

We also gather up ideas, This did start off as a Suggested Topic, But I wanted to explain to you (look up the first post) that you also may have to accept whether or whether not your ideas are accepted (by the way I really like this Dissidia idea, just I can't promise you anything... you have to await other people... or wait until I learn some Danmakufu scripting and actaully master the spriting).

We're accepting scripts that at all related with FF...

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don't want to meddle in your project

^^; again I tend to overlapp my words, but your not interfering as long as your suggestion isn't expected at us... which we already have our hands filled with our FFX project. You have to await whether some-one wants or has any desire to collab with your suggestion.

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However sorry again ..

^^; don't worry... I didn't explain well in the First Comment of the topic so it's mostly my fault.

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PS I don't want to go off-topic but...Kyaksa.....are you English\American? [Can be really...]

I'm american and a half blooded Italian so I'm legally both by nature... :3 you're an Italian? I would write in Italian but my grammer still sucks XD, but by suck I mean horrible... but I read and talk well enough.

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PPS don't consider seriously ideas of a crazy old man.....

:O Are you actaully an old man? Or you just saying that figuratily(sp?)?

:) but still I'm happy to know more people are interested in FF and Touhou... combine it's is made of awesome 8D

LPS gave us great information about Yu Yevon (but =.=... I don't want to make anyt promises yet...)

Alpha also help somewhat with the Aeons....

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wow calm down. your acting like you just disrespected royalty or something.

V-V Yeah... LPS has a point (but LOL I get like that too....)

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seriously though, one FF at a time is better. Some Final Fantasies may not be good for this at all... like... that one that isn't good. (if I get specific, I'll just be contradicted)

Well... Actaully this Could be a forum to post indiviual FF work, whether script or Phantasm (of course if with other people), It's best if me, Kyleksy and RE do our project and then we'll see... but if somebody else is interested in an FF script/Phantasm they can post it here (of course that's up to them)

^^; Dissidia is just a fanservice game but it was decent... but I've still got finish it... Golbez is a bitch to fight DX

LPS... V-V I hope we're not being too offensive or wrong (LOL I mostly speak on my part...  :ohdear:...)

PS: I'm sorry I say LOL too much >.<
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Marco on August 06, 2010, 02:44:42 PM
I'm American and a half blooded Italian so I'm legally both by nature... :3 you're an Italian? I would write in Italian but my grammar still sucks XD, but by suck I mean horrible... but I read and talk well enough.
:O Are you actually an old man? Or you just saying that (Sp?)?
I'm not really an old man, only...figuratively...I think.....
Well I ask you if you were American because I sub Luna Dial for another Kyaksa (or  you?)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 06, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
I wrote figuratively (badly XD but still)

Yes, I'm that Kyaksa >.>....

8D Thank you a milion for that translation btw!!! (but cursive was a really hard thing to read  :ohdear: ) XD Anyway You're awesome translating touhou videos (I should sub to you, sometimes you can never find it in English but in SPANISH  :V... oh well.). Anyway Since you did that I've been Subbing English to Italian for the Touhou fanbase (and other things... >.> I should do Higurashi and Umineko... well... what I can find anyway)

The first translation is a Karma from Bumb of Chicken (which is an awesome song! Just eefing awesome) But I'm translating End of Daylight and I search for video that yet to be translated in Italian. Helps me pratice my grammer  :derp:

I planning to sub Vocaloids, Touhou and just some songs that have infact been translated in English.

:3 I've always wonder though... why is the spanish fanbase way bigger than the American one??? D8

How are you btw Marco?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Marco on August 06, 2010, 07:04:51 PM
How are you BTW Marco?
I'm fine, thanks... and subtitling Convictor Yamaxanadu, the timing is awfully difficult! the translation is quite easy.Then I have to sub Overdrive and Neko Miko Reimu...but, I found a video that have the precedence...
PS if you have msn or somethin else we can tolk and maybe I can help you with italian... I can post my mail so forum's user can contact me....but if they do I'll ask them a lot of things about danmakufu!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Kyaksa on August 06, 2010, 08:53:10 PM
You do know how to do a PM here, right? There's no need of Emails just yet ^^;

Well There are alot of tutorials and if you're having problem with a script, just ask the Q&A topic... only after you triple check your script.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy Danmaku... (One project in Making)
Post by: Marco on August 06, 2010, 11:41:02 PM
Yea I know, but you are missing an important point! If you search before post your problem you could find an answer without asking!