(What is it about yuri that lowers the porn percentage?)It's really ironic how you include that, and half of the Touhou doujins ARE in fact yuri.
You mean lovely futas :V
You mean lovely futas :VYeah, whatever. They're still all the same to me.
Given the fact I don't watch anime or read manga, I approve of these statistics.
But hold on, Yuri isn't considered erotic material? I thought Yuri was basically girl on girl porn.
I can't tell if this is good or bad.
(What is it about yuri that lowers the porn percentage?)Easy: the amount of porn produced by the fans is inversely proportional to the amount of "naughtiness" present in canon (and then multiplied by the popularity to begin with, of course). If you play your cards and creativity right, a fully-clothed romance with barely any kissing (um, I admit that I'm not actually familiar with Marimite) can be more "enticing" than full-on hardcore pornography. In short, the fans don't need to produce their own stuff, because it's already there.
poofy bloomers, which are just about as sexy as frilly cargo shorts.
Speak for yourself!
*fires up Kiki's Delivery Service again*
I'd say the reason Marimite has little h material is because it's is just a higher class show for higher class citizens *sips tea with pinky raised*You forgot your monocle.
Two wordsMmm, I'd pay for a an h-doujin with her in it.
Dark Tewi
I wonder what's the ratio of Touhou doujin music compared to others :smug::ohdear:
I did read some weird doujin about all the girls getting into some sort of gunfight with one another. Mokou's team vs. Kaguya's. Unexpectedly, I found it extremely amusing.That's the one with the Cirno Shotgun right?
I did read some weird doujin about all the girls getting into some sort of gunfight with one another. Mokou's team vs. Kaguya's. Unexpectedly, I found it extremely amusing.
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Stuff that makes senseThat's a pretty good point, given how popular Touhou is.
Define "the inevitable."
Define "the inevitable."
in?ev?i?ta?ble ( n- v -t -b l). adj. 1. Impossible to avoid or prevent.
Seriously though, you can't possibly think this will go on forever. Eventually this will all burn out at some point, the time at which this actually happens is unknown, but trust me...it WILL happen. As they say; nothing lasts forever.
*puts 'make Touhou immortal' on To-Do list*BAKA!
Define "the inevitable."
Define "the inevitable."
The idea of Touhou vanishing makes me extremely depressive :( I just can't comprehend what it is like without Touhou.Okashii, you're my buddy and all, but you're placing WAY too much credit into Touhou's popularity, dude.
Although, the Mario franchise has lived for 20 years, and it is still going greatly. Mario is still Mr. Video Game. He helped making games mainstream. And it looks like he won't die anytime soon. Isn't it possible that Touhou may gain Mario's immortality? Final Fantasy is also going on for almost as long, and that series truly doesn't look like it will ever end. Some series truly are immortal as long as their company keeps existing. I don't believe we should condemn Touhou's fate like this. Touhou has a far more amazing fandom than any on Earth. This series will go on far beyond ZUN's retirement/passing away. Another team will pick it up in honor of ZUN and continue it for him. I am sure of it.
what has it to offer? other than pretty crayon girls and colorful bullets over 640x480 screens of 8bit- or instrumental music?It has been TOO LONG, I admit, since any big changes have been made (the last "big" one was the new engine). However, you have to admit that every franchise you guys are comparing to Touhou isn't fair in the sense that it's a 1-man show vs. an entire studio. Zun's only HUMAN AFTER ALL, it's not like he can snap his fingers and *poof* have 1080hp graphics. It would require a REVOLUTION in the franchise; or at the least taking a break ONE MORE TIME.
It needs refinement, and upgrades.
WE HAVE TO MAKE IT HARDER BETTER FASTER STRONGER
ZUN essentially keeps pumping out the same thing like he's scared of changing something he's supposed to have fun with making.
The sad, painful truth.
It has been TOO LONG, I admit, since any big changes have been made (the last "big" one was the new engine). However, you have to admit that every franchise you guys are comparing to Touhou isn't fair in the sense that it's a 1-man show vs. an entire studio. Zun's only HUMAN AFTER ALL, it's not like he can snap his fingers and *poof* have 1080hp graphics. It would require a REVOLUTION in the franchise; or at the least taking a break ONE MORE TIME.
Also, one could argue Zelda's stagnant too, at least from what I've seen, and yet it's arguably Nintendo's biggest franchise. Aside from slightly different worlds and 1-2 unique mechanics (wind, wolf), the series hasn't grown much since OoT, which is one of the reasons I still haven't played much since Majora's Mask. Wind Waker could've breathed new life, but casual fans hated the change; they ripped apart young Link and the cartoonish style, and thus Nintendo went back to realism for Twilight Princess, which became one of the biggest games of the series (ok, so part of that was that they delayed it to be released with the Wii, but still the hype leading to it compared to WW was night and day).
Maybe I missed an interview, but...
What if he likes building his games this way. The biggest eras of change in Touhou were 1-3 (3 different game types) and 5-6 (new platform). Since then he's released 1 duel game (PoFV) and 2 camera games (STB, DS) and 1 new engine, other than that everything has been the same. Maybe he likes making shooters staring cute girls with little/no plot. After all, the biggest things for him, IIRC, were the danmaku and the music.
-Miko senses something is up
-Miko investigaes, beats up a couple girls on her way to the truth
-Mastermind appears, commence final battle
-End
Okashii let me put it this way:
until fans can give a full anime series, that is not done by one person (Tokine, you are one awesome motherfucker) oh hey, Touhou will still suffer from oversupply.
What I am saying is not influence, it is common progress. Product Life Cycle dictates that now seems to be at least approaching the Touhou maturity part, and from here on it is either a steady decline to death, or ZUN gives up. However, as are all economic situations, the solution to quick and quiet death is to make enough noise, or change your product to match up with competitors.
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~renglish/370/notes/chapt11/life_cycle_01.gif
for full reference
You think players compare a company with a guy's game? That is what fandom does, players of a game do not care at the end of the day if it was designed by one man or one army, it is a game, if it has nothing to offer, it will have to stay stagnant or dead in the water.
And don't say stuff like it is about to end! Who knows how long it will still live? It might still survive for years to come! And like multiple people on this thread said, the business is still bustling! I cannot see the end of it.
Erebus, with all due respect, you seem lately to be making it your personal mission to be sure everyone is aware of your general dissatisfaction with the games. If you're wondering if anyone's caught on, I can assure you, we have.
I believe the popularity of the games will probably fade. I'd say it's a near certainty. It is a certainty that the series will one day stop. I'm not really sure what this changes though. One day the person you love the most will die. And so you enjoy the time you have with them now.
I'm not saying to be quiet about what you don't like about the games, of course. Just that you lately seem to be venting and repeating yourself when it comes to this subject is all.
Yeah, you're like Ruro was with Nue a while back. And, like with her, we do not take issue with the fact that you don't like some parts of it (or at least I don't -- I mean, I have my fare share of bones to pick), just with the fact that you seem to bring it up in every thread you post in at TARC.Yeah I am pretty much venting my frustrations with the seires (said frustration is something that's accumalated over the course of me playing the games and seeing them for what they really are). I may not be the fan I used to be, but I just can't see how people can deal with the same thing over and over and over again. It annoys me to no bounds to see a series with such potential be wasted with such a redundant factor crammed into it.
Yeah I am pretty much venting my frustrations with the seires (said frustration is something that's accumalated over the course of me playing the games and seeing them for what they really are). I may not be the fan I used to be, but I just can't see how people can deal with the same thing over and over and over again. It annoys me to no bounds to see a series with such potential be wasted with such a redundant factor crammed into it.
How can I stay interested in Touhou if it's not giving me something interesting to look at? I want to fully enjoy it as everyone of you do, but it's these factors that keep me from doing so.
(Personally, on my wish list is something I love about Imperishable Night - the fork in the road in Stage 5. Wouldn't it be great if he created more intersections in a game? That I'd love to see. And maybe he'll go there again, who knows?)
You mean "different storyline" as in "same source of conflict, but they go about it differently", or "different storyline" as "different source of conflict and results"?
Yes, I'd like to see that too. This could make for a larger game, more characters and basically something that is a little different from the norm. Maybe add somethings in one route you can't see in the other, like say a character exclusive to that route or a storyline that takes a turn that's different from the normal route?
Metal Slug 3 comes to mind when I think of something like this (albeit in less of a story oriented way and more in a 'choose this way to get some new scenery and face new enemies that can kill you in 2 seconds).
In addition, Touhou is pretty much easy mode for fanworks. Weak canon, loads of characters, and self contained storylines. Toss in a bit of bandwagon and you could get pretty impressive numbers.
And thank (insert favirote gensokyo shrine here)'s god for that because I cant get enough of the music.Japan :V
Litterally, I can't because I cant find where to get some of it :V
Definitely. I never considered writing fanfiction until Touhou. It does seem to have all the right elements for translating into any number of mediums.
On a different note... I wonder how much of this is due to the weakening of the anime/manga market in general? I wonder how many of the doujin writers looked around, saw nothing they liked except Touhou and just went for it?I am sure most doujin artists in order to ensure their circle gets recognized quickly will bandwagon into the nearest most popular subject, in this case Touhou. A while ago it was Idolmaster, and a while longer before it was Futari Prettycure.
In addition, Touhou is pretty much easy mode for fanworks. Weak canon, loads of characters, and self contained storylines. Toss in a bit of bandwagon and you could get pretty impressive numbers.
This is heavy speculation (as was the above paragraph :V), but I'm also wondering if there's some growing resentment towards Touhou overall from doujin fans who aren't into Touhou. Going by what someone said about Touhou making up about half of all doujin (probably a huge overstatement), the present situation has to suck for non-Touhou doujin fans. I know that if I were in such a position I'd probably start reconsidering my hobbies and stop making regular trips to Comiket and doujin shops if all I saw was all Touhou, all the time. Applying this to the general doujin fanbase and I'm wondering if traffic to Comiket and doujin stores will decline, and we'll see second party (i.e., vendors) regulation of Touhou supply, perhaps opening the window for something else to take its place.
This is heavy speculation (as was the above paragraph :V), but I'm also wondering if there's some growing resentment towards Touhou overall from doujin fans who aren't into Touhou. Going by what someone said about Touhou making up about half of all doujin (probably a huge overstatement), the present situation has to suck for non-Touhou doujin fans. I know that if I were in such a position I'd probably start reconsidering my hobbies and stop making regular trips to Comiket and doujin shops if all I saw was all Touhou, all the time. Applying this to the general doujin fanbase and I'm wondering if traffic to Comiket and doujin stores will decline, and we'll see second party (i.e., vendors) regulation of Touhou supply, perhaps opening the window for something else to take its place.The doujin craze of the comicket is partly there for people who want to get in to the field of manga, games, music, anime... etc.
Japan :V
Yes I think it would be fun if we can get something like a bad end.
heck, if one wishes to, maybe if you defeated a boss with a continue you get to fight an alternative boss?
all these multi-faceted ideas changes the idea of Touhou for those who have had experience with it and wanted more.
Ideally, how is a story that doesn't end with a tea party but OMG TORTURE sounds like?I am sure most doujin artists in order to ensure their circle gets recognized quickly will bandwagon into the nearest most popular subject, in this case Touhou. A while ago it was Idolmaster, and a while longer before it was Futari Prettycure.
Yes I think it would be fun if we can get something like a bad end.Yes that sounds very interesting indeed.
heck, if one wishes to, maybe if you defeated a boss with a continue you get to fight an alternative boss?
all these multi-faceted ideas changes the idea of Touhou for those who have had experience with it and wanted more.
Ideally, how is a story that doesn't end with a tea party but OMG TORTURE sounds like?
Where the hell is ruro's headshot emote!! ah here it is-GAME OVER YEAAAHHHHHH
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*dead*
GAME OVER NOOOOO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHFOpN5ifE) ... noooo! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQzruqWMGfs)