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Title: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: warpshadow on April 05, 2010, 01:57:27 AM
There has been some small talk that the next game might be a phantasmagoria game (note this thread is not the expectation that this is true it's just a guess). One feature of those games is that they have many playable characters. Who do you think should be in a Phantasmagoria game if another one is made?
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Tengukami on April 05, 2010, 02:02:24 AM
Whoah, who's been saying this? A PoFV-type game running on an engine that doesn't freeze and crash after the first scene would be great.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: OkashiiKisei on April 05, 2010, 02:12:34 AM
Yamame, Utsuho, Suwako and Wriggle. ;) From my choices these seem the most plausible. Flan, Yukarin and Shinki-Sama would be great, but there's only a small chance they'd actually get in...
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: KrackoCloud on April 05, 2010, 02:14:46 AM
Sanae and Utsuho seem to be obvious additions. I think Shou could make it in too, considering ZUN's seemingly newfound love for curvy lasers. I doubt newcomers will be from older games who already have had someone in PoFV.
But I'd also be really happy if ZUN tweaked the control system for easier use.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on April 05, 2010, 02:16:21 AM
Yumemi, duh. Because Phantasmagoria final bosses are the best. \o/

And also Muse, because she needs more love. Yes, even though she's a godmoding Mary Sue in Kioh Gyoku, she is damn terrifying fun to fight. 8)

Sanae and, say, Koishi would be wonderful additions as well. So would Kogasa and Nue, because their plots would just be "let's go out and surprise/scare people for the heck of it!", in true Phantasmagoria style.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Patorikku on April 05, 2010, 02:17:32 AM
"Small chance" is an understatement in the case of Shinki.

When it comes to characters, it's fairly likely that we'll get characters like Hina, Kogasa, Koishi, Nitori, and Nazrin as new characters. Nue and Suwako are also possibilities.

What I'd also like from a new Phantasmagoria game is less BS powers from characters. For example, nothing like Medicine's poison, or Shikieiki's mirrors. Yuka's flowers were also annoying.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Naut on April 05, 2010, 02:51:48 AM
If ZUN does end up making a Phantasmagoria game, the only improvement I would be happy with is more pretty danmaku, less random shit spam. The patterns in Touhou games are supposed to be beautiful, not a fuck-tonne of dots going at random speeds and angles. Even the PC-98 games had prettier danmaku than PoFV, simply because the dots were at least in some sort of pattern. The game would exponentially increase in entertainment value if it somehow improves on the danmaku, to me at least.

As for possible characters, I'd have to mostly agree with Patorikku's list, they seem pretty plausible:
When it comes to characters, it's fairly likely that we'll get characters like Hina, Kogasa, Koishi, Nitori, and Nazrin as new characters. Nue and Suwako are also possibilities.
+ Sanae, and 2-4 new characters. I highly doubt any PC-98 characters would make a comeback. The best that would happen is one of the new characters will reference some attack from a PC-98 game, like how Byakuren channeled a Shinki attack.

All that said, I'd still prefer to see a regular 6 stage + extra game for TH13, but a Phantasmagoria one wouldn't hurt (especially if there's a much better online versus system!).
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Bananamatic on April 05, 2010, 02:55:05 AM
I don't care if the characters are new touhous or lawn gnomes from Periphery of Power - but hopefully the difficulty won't be extremely scaled by winning and losing and hopefully the CPU will dodge in a realistic manner, not like Jesus.
All I want for the new Phantasmagoria.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Tengukami on April 05, 2010, 03:07:13 AM
What are the sources of this rumor? This really intrigues me.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on April 05, 2010, 04:12:50 AM
Wishful thinking.

It should be Phantasmagoria of BEEEEEEEEEEEEES
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Azinth on April 05, 2010, 04:25:58 AM
It should be Phantasmagoria of BEEEEEEEEEEEEES
Someone should make a Phantasmagoria fan game with Cave TLBs as playable characters.  That would probably be the most kickass thing imaginable.  I'd totally main as Spiritual Larsa. :D
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Naut on April 05, 2010, 04:46:31 AM
hopefully the CPU will dodge in a realistic manner, not like Jesus.

Disregard this man, he is disoriented and doesn't know of what he speaks. Nothing is more holy shit awesome than the lunatic AI kicking the fucking shit out of you.

If only the game wasn't so ugly!

What are the sources of this rumor? This really intrigues me.

The rumor that the next game will be a Phantasmagoria game? Likely comes from ZUN releasing a StB sequal, and it seems likely he could release another Phantasmagoria game since he has a whack of new characters to use for it. There is no real base other than gut feelings and speculations, just one more thing to ponder about really.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Polaris on April 05, 2010, 04:52:13 AM
Reimu, Marisa, and Sanae are a definite for the next Touhou game, regardless of if it's a Phantasmagoria or not. Nitori is very likely to appear, given that she had a partner spot in Subterranean Animism and she was set for Hisou Tensoku as well. Taking from the previous Phantasmagoria, we can possibly expect Shou and Nazrin a la Reisen and Tewi, as well as Hatate since she needs more screen time anyway. I think Kogasa and maybe Hina have a good chance of appearing, too, taking after Cirno and Mystia. I really don't expect anyone from the Underground to appear, since the incident will probably take place above ground, so the one with the highest chance of appearing is Utsuho (maybe Koishi? I'm not sure).

So the final lineup ends up as:
- Reimu
- Marisa
- Sanae
- Nitori
- Hina
- Kogasa
- Shou
- Nazrin
- Utsuho
- Hatate

And since there were fourteen characters in the last Phantasmagoria, there should be around four to five new characters in this next one, with maybe one "returning" character (although I highly doubt Mima is going to make a return).
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: VIVItheFujoshi on April 05, 2010, 05:03:44 AM
Alice,Nitori,Hina,Yamame,Parsee, Koishi and Satori (together) Wriggle,Nazrin and Shou (the two), Kogasa, Byakuren, Nue, Hatate.
Will be interesting if the "no in play before" appeared too: Hieda no Akyu, Rinnosuke and the 3 Faeries , or well Ranko and Maribel. (that depends of the story, because Ranko and Mari are outsiders...)
how the book edition of Touhou Kourindou was reatrased and run rumors about who this year is "the year" ...maybe will happen the same with the anterior Pantasmagoria, who we have Aya in it. (that year appeared a book and a game with her) For that, following this logic, maybe can go Hatate, Rinnosuke and (why not?) Tokiko n_n (dreaming...)
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: mew77 on April 05, 2010, 07:04:52 AM
I don't care if the characters are new touhous or lawn gnomes from Periphery of Power - but hopefully the difficulty won't be extremely scaled by winning and losing and hopefully the CPU will dodge in a realistic manner, not like Jesus.
All I want for the new Phantasmagoria.

The AI isn't jesus..the AI is a drunken god obviously as their creator is.

They should let suwako come to the party if there is a new phantasmagoria...

hats for the win.

ZUN needs to make more hats...

BTW I wonder if I can buy a suwako hat in japan...

Not that I'd wear it, I just want one.

Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on April 05, 2010, 07:16:55 AM
It should be Phantasmagoria of BEEEEEEEEEEEEES (http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7172/herecomebees.jpg)
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Garlyle on April 05, 2010, 07:18:16 AM
Oh man... a new Phantasmagoria game would be kickass right about now.

Reimu and Marisa are obvious; I'd like to see Sakuya, Cirno, Aya, and Reisen return too, along with one of the PoFV-"introduced" cast (Preferrably Yuka), and probably Alice too (Much as I don't particularly care for her she could be interesting - EX attacks that place her dolls on the opponent's field, that only fire when her spells activate...? Hm...

As for new character possibilities...
Sanae: EX shot sets a star which moves forward a few moments later, piercing things.  Her spellcards do what she does best - throw bullet walls.  Ends up god tier because of this.
Momiji: Promoted from midboss status like Tewi was.  Fights much like Youmu did.  She still throws those FUCKING BULLET CIRCLE THINGS ARGH but they have smaller bullets making passing through them possible.
Suwako: Sort of similar to Tewi.  Throws her Iron Rings to bounce off of walls as her EX attack, but they're much smaller.  Spell attacks involve drawing out straight lines of smaller bullets that wait a moment before spreading out, much like in Jade Princess/Suwa War.
Satori: "Standard" bullet type and stuff for herself, really, but the spells and EX attacks she uses against her opponents are those of whoever she's fighting.  When two Satoris fight, they just get random spells from other characters.
Orin: EX attack involves sending 'fake' fairies at the opponent.  When destroyed, they send down extra bullets at the opponent.
Utsuho: Fucking suns.  Not much to say here.
Ichirin: Akin to Yuka.  Her brofists are big, but very slow.
Nue: The game's Medicine.  Her EX clouds don't slow you down anymore, but have a much greater effect on obscuring bullets coming your way.

The new characters... who knows?  I want some goddamn shota dragon as final boss ... wait.  Yes, I do want that.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Cadmas on April 05, 2010, 07:24:16 AM
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Nue: The game's Medicine.  Her EX clouds don't slow you down anymore, but have a much greater effect on obscuring bullets coming your way.

Medicine will be the main villain of th13. 
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: mew77 on April 05, 2010, 07:31:30 AM
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Momiji: Promoted from midboss status like Tewi was.  Fights much like Youmu did.  She still throws those FUCKING BULLET CIRCLE THINGS ARGH but they have smaller bullets making passing through them possible.

But it wouldn't be momiji without unpassable bullet circle things.

As for new characters I really don't mind that much...as long as they have a hat..preferrably sentient hat
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: ebarrett on April 05, 2010, 07:32:48 AM
Disregard this man, he is disoriented and doesn't know of what he speaks. Nothing is more holy shit awesome than you kicking the fucking shit out of the lunatic AI.
Fixed.  8)
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Garlyle on April 05, 2010, 07:33:23 AM
But it wouldn't be momiji without unpassable bullet circle things.
Well, okay, they can be destroyed by explosions or something.

Leaving them as they are in MoF/DS would just be bullshit.
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Disregard this man, he is disoriented and doesn't know of what he speaks. Nothing is more holy shit awesome than you kicking the fucking shit out of the lunatic AI.
Fixed.  8)
This
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Widermelonz on April 05, 2010, 07:40:58 AM
ZUN needs to make more hats...
Oh yes pleeeease. ZUNhats are the best hats ever conceived.

And I would actually wear Suwako's hat, because I'm living in a blazing hot area that only rains about 8 times a year.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: mew77 on April 05, 2010, 07:41:58 AM
Agreed...

*glares are self's horrific record on DS level 4*

More often though the lunatic AI will destroy you.

BTW we could call this touhou Unprecedented Serious Affair

some american  venture capitalists could wind up in Gensokyo and try to spread their laissez faire economy to the world and characters begin to take sides...some support the capitalists and others support the..um..."barter system" that they have in place. Leading to an all out war.

Come to think of it this wouldn't be unlikely
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: mew77 on April 05, 2010, 07:44:29 AM
I'll be moving to one such area...but the hat is more for novelty than actual use.

You know you're addicted to touhou when touhou symbols are used in your school reading notes.

suwako hats for interesting bits
kogasa umbrellas for surprising bits
9 balls for conduct unbecoming a fictional character or just plain idiocy. (How do you make that 9 ball symbol when typing)
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Bananamatic on April 05, 2010, 10:44:54 AM
you guys clearly haven't attempted a 1cc on the hardest difficulties

every single run is basically a copy of the previous one because the AI is too hard to beat or too easy after you lose.
just drop the goddamn rank system and make the AI beatable by somebody not called ebarrett
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Helepolis on April 05, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
This thread is amazing. Double Spoiler hasn't been released for a month and people are already speculating about Touhou 13 for the second  (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=5063.msg252688#msg252688)time. Comiket isn't also anywhere soon yet.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Infy♫ on April 05, 2010, 12:12:06 PM
This thread is amazing. Double Spoiler hasn't been released for a month and people are already speculating about Touhou 13 for the second  (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=5063.msg252688#msg252688)time. Comiket isn't also anywhere soon yet.
yeah... it's just ignorant and silly, speculating about the new touhou.

touhou 13 will be about mongolians trying to conquer ancient gensokyo, thats for sure. though their nomadic cavalry will prove futile against the ability of gensokyo's inhabitants to fly.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: orinrin on April 05, 2010, 12:35:35 PM
I forsee level two spell spamming.


ZUN should make netplay support up to four players.  Two on two.  Retarded concept, but at least its different.   :V


Now that I actually think about it, having two players on a side would make it quite awkward.  Too much Ikaruga I guess.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on April 05, 2010, 12:56:03 PM
Muse
WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE MUSE WAS A BITCH AND ah jeez it wouldn't be a bad idea, wouldn't it.
If it was so, then I think VIVIT and/or Hirano should make an appearance as well. Specially VIVIT.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Infy♫ on April 05, 2010, 07:32:50 PM
touhou 13 will be about mongolians trying to conquer ancient gensokyo, thats for sure. though their nomadic cavalry will prove futile against the ability of gensokyo's inhabitants to fly.
by the way, the bosses will be B?rte, T?regene, Oghul Qaimish, Hoelun, Sorghaghtani Beki,    Dokuz, and the final boss might just be Tengri.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Nyyl on April 05, 2010, 07:34:09 PM
The AI isn't jesus..the AI is a drunken god obviously as their creator is.
ohshi
Phantasmagoria AI is actually ZUN netplaying with you
The only reason it's possible to beat him is because he's playing with everybody at once

If there is one, the next Phantasmagoria needs Patchy. If she can leave the library to physically beat the snot out of everyone, she can leave the library to danmaku the snot out of everyone.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Helix ⑨ on April 05, 2010, 10:00:54 PM
I hope it's not a phantasmagoria. But if it is I guess it will include Sanae, Kanako OR Suwako, Satori, Rin, Utusho, Byakuren, Kogasa OR Nue. In addition to old  ones, probably replacing the unpopular characters like prismrivers and Medicine. Maybe even Hatate seeing Aya came in StB and PoFV.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Naut on April 06, 2010, 06:07:27 AM
Fixed.  8)

Stop using broken chars and accept your inevitable ass kick

;_;
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: SupahVee1234 on April 06, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
If ZUN does end up making a Phantasmagoria game, the only improvement I would be happy with is more pretty danmaku, less random shit spam. The patterns in Touhou games are supposed to be beautiful, not a fuck-tonne of dots going at random speeds and angles. Even the PC-98 games had prettier danmaku than PoFV, simply because the dots were at least in some sort of pattern. The game would exponentially increase in entertainment value if it somehow improves on the danmaku, to me at least.

This.

And online multiplayer.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: shadowbringer on April 06, 2010, 06:43:45 PM
This thread is amazing. Double Spoiler hasn't been released for a month and people are already speculating about Touhou 13 for the second  (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=5063.msg252688#msg252688)time. Comiket isn't also anywhere soon yet.

no speculations allowed, lol.
it's not like people are ever certain about said speculations, or stating them as truths. So, stop, Helepolis :)

anyways, what I'd like to see:
- better character balance (I normally avoid using Reimu, Komachi and Sikieiki in versus matches)
- no crashes when I'm trying to save replays
- also, no desynchs when I'm playing as/against Lunasa/Merlin (haven't tested the native netplay, though)
- newcomers/newer/former characters
- team system (that would enrich the gameplay and competitive potential)
- alternative scoring mechanics, in addition to PoFV's. I'm curious about what can ZUN manage to pull out. (cancelling lots and lots of bullets while maintaining control over your chain was very awesome in PoFV). Kioh Gyoku had grazing, for example, for those who like that feature.
- diversity of opponents/opponents that shoot you (and aren't Lily White or boss characters)
- better programmed AI (Medicine and the characters who have lasers are currently AI-killers in PoFV)
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Kinzo the Astro Curious on April 06, 2010, 07:06:27 PM
I dont get why there are people against PC-98 come backs. Who doesn't like Alice and Yuka?

Mima please

And while were at it YuugenMagan

Phantasmagoria of forgotten PC98 characters ftw - I mean, this is gensokyo, where forgotten/illusionary things end up right? PC-98 definately falls into that catagory :V
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: DgBarca on April 06, 2010, 08:23:26 PM
If it is a Phantasmagoria game, I want Yuka and Flower of Japan back.
Also, Kogasa would be god tier, SURPRISE LASORED ! for EX attack !
Oh and...
I WANT LLS STAGE 1 MID-BOSS BACK ! IT IS SO AWESOME !
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Doomsday on April 06, 2010, 09:26:22 PM
As far as a few Phantasmagoria game goes, I'd be happy if it was simply all the characters from PoFV, with a bunch on new ones to use.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: orinrin on April 07, 2010, 12:46:31 AM
I want the last stage boss to be dependent of the character you selected.


Maybe some Elly versus Komachi.   :V


Also, instead of Lily White, you could have random unselected characters doing fly-bys.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Sen on April 07, 2010, 03:28:12 AM
I dont get why there are people against PC-98 come backs. Who doesn't like Alice and Yuka?

Mima please

And while were at it YuugenMagan

Phantasmagoria of forgotten PC98 characters ftw - I mean, this is gensokyo, where forgotten/illusionary things end up right? PC-98 definately falls into that catagory :V

No one's against it, but people are being realistic and accepting that ZUN's more likely to go to an AA meeting than bring back the PC-98  characters. That and everyone is fucking sick of fans screaming for Mima to come back.


Also, I adore the PoFV games, but yes, making it possible to beat the Lunatic AI before losing twice would be nice.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: mew77 on April 07, 2010, 04:21:02 AM
No one's against it, but people are being realistic and accepting that ZUN's more likely to go to an AA meeting than bring back the PC-98  characters. That and everyone is fucking sick of fans screaming for Mima to come back.


Also, I adore the PoFV games, but yes, making it possible to beat the Lunatic AI before losing twice would be nice.

realistically I doubt ZUN's ever  going to go to an AA meeting
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Solais on April 07, 2010, 01:04:32 PM
realistically I doubt ZUN's ever  going to go to an AA meeting

Exactly.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Formless God on April 07, 2010, 03:50:04 PM
What is an AA meeting ? :/
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Janitor Morgan on April 07, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
What is an AA meeting ? :/

Alcoholics Anonymous. It's where people go to get help with drinking problems.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Sen on April 07, 2010, 10:34:25 PM
realistically I doubt ZUN's ever  going to go to an AA meeting

----> Joke



----> Your Head
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: mew77 on April 08, 2010, 01:21:12 AM
eh?

Say what now?
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Zondac on April 08, 2010, 11:24:21 AM
He meant you didn't get the joke.
Atleast that's what I get outta it
And if that's the case I don't get the joke myself, I believed he meant ZUN simply will not bring back anyone
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: OkashiiKisei on April 08, 2010, 12:21:36 PM
The joke isn't that hard people  :/

ZUN, being the alcohol addict and admirer he is, would never in his life go to AA (alcohol addict) meeting. So when you say 'he'd rather go to an AA meeting than bring the PC-98 cast back' you basically say the PC-98 characters never ever come back.

Now I had to explain the joke, making it a lot less funny. I hope you are proud of yourself, partypooper.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Helepolis on April 08, 2010, 03:33:27 PM
The joke isn't that hard people  :/

ZUN, being the alcohol addict and admirer he is, would never in his life go to AA (alcohol addict) meeting. So when you say 'he'd rather go to an AA meeting than bring the PC-98 cast back' you basically say the PC-98 characters never ever come back.

Now I had to explain the joke, making it a lot less funny. I hope you are proud of yourself, partypooper.

You could have used the spoiler tag for the ⑨ people among us :V but yea, you ruined it. THANK YOU OKASHIIKISEI  :V
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: OkashiiKisei on April 08, 2010, 04:00:28 PM
You could have used the spoiler tag for the ⑨ people among us :V but yea, you ruined it. THANK YOU OKASHIIKISEI  :V

Unfortunately spoiler tags don't work for anymore. At least, whenever I type [ spoiler ][/ spoiler ] (without spaces) the spoiler tags disappear and no bars show up. Thy don't work at all.
I'm using them in this sentence (quote to see them) and no bars show up.
So you have to report that to higher ups or something like that to get it fixed.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Helepolis on April 08, 2010, 06:20:21 PM
Curses you are right, it doesn't work indeed.

So you have to report that to higher ups or something like that to get it fixed.
No you do it. So you can brag (ry (unless it was already reported in the bugs section)

Edit: it was already reported in the bugs section, 6 days ago.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Shizzo on April 10, 2010, 06:56:08 PM
Please, ZUN, give Mystia a blinding spellcard/skill PLEEEEEASE  :ohdear:
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Kinzo the Astro Curious on April 10, 2010, 11:48:55 PM
The joke isn't that hard people  :/

ZUN, being the alcohol addict and admirer he is, would never in his life go to AA (alcohol addict) meeting. So when you say 'he'd rather go to an AA meeting than bring the PC-98 cast back' you basically say the PC-98 characters never ever come back.

Now I had to explain the joke, making it a lot less funny. I hope you are proud of yourself, partypooper.

He must have had a few occasions where he got pulled into AA meetings by his family then, forgot that he hated all PC98 characters, brought one or two back, then escaped rehab and got straight back on the cold drafts lol
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: Aya Reiko on April 11, 2010, 08:18:14 AM
I say start with the UNL+SWR cast, and subtract those in IaMP but not in PoFV from the list.

Lesse... That would give us...

Reimu, Marisa, Aya, Youmu, Reisen, Komachi, Sakuya, Iku, Tenshi, Hong Meiling, Cirno, Sanae, Suwako, & Reiuji

14... about 3 too many... 

I'll lop off Iku, Suwako, and Hong Meiling to bring us...

Reimu, Marisa, Aya, Youmu, Reisen, Komachi, Sakuya, Tenshi, Cirno, Sanae, & Reiuji
And add two unknowns as the bosses.  Also add either Nazrin, Captain Murasa, or Kogasa.
Title: Re: phantasmagoria of something Touhou 13 speculation
Post by: NinjaFoxX on April 14, 2010, 02:17:48 AM
Satori. Byakuren. Patchy. idk if Alice was in the last one but her.(and anyone else in "Team Marisa")

as for PC98, Shinki? or Yumemi?