That there are no things superior to beauty and thought.
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Do not attack without reason.
Reason becomes its own power.
Although the shrine maiden decided on these rules, the original draft is written on the same paper as the youkai's contract. Was there any youkai proposing these rules to the shrine maiden? I wonder who could have written them.
And I don't think it says anywhere that you need a GOOD reason. "I didn't like her face" would stand up to "a reason." Just a bullshit one.I'm jealous of the light above ground.
I'm jealous of the light above ground.
I'm jealous of the gentle breezes.
I don't have anything against you, but
I can make up lots of reasons to attack you.
Of course youkai break the spell card rules, sometimes. And the humans sometimes have reason to attack. That's a given. But the rules are human-written, human-enforced, and are heavily biased towards humans - youkai who break these rules are defeated; humans are rewarded. No one should be above the rules.
I'm still waiting for a game where the big bad just says "Fuck your rules" and fights you for real.
Closest you can get to that I suppose is StB where they actually use melee attacks far too often in the later stages lol.
Oh hey whats youmu doing just sitting still there I wonder whats gonna ha- *SPOON*
shit chens flying at me! *dodge* hah! Oh shit oh shit oh shit *SPOON*
oh hey its meiling oh shit shes gonna kick me! hah! missed! haha too slow for me F bullets! *guess what sfx*
god dammit I'm stuck with only melee stages to do now and I suck at them. That and the bookish historian ones and I'm, shit at those as well lol
And doesn't the spellcard rules say that if the one trying to solve the incident fails, she can try again? (until she eventually wins)
If all your named spells are defeated, you are defeated, regardless of your remaining strength. If victorious against a human, you may not kill them.
Weren't the rules written right after Mystic Square? Maybe it was less to stop the youkai of Gensokyo and more to keep Makai's demons in check.
Weren't the rules written right after Mystic Square? Maybe it was less to stop the youkai of Gensokyo and more to keep Makai's demons in check.
The Spell Card Rules don't appear to cover just how many times you can try again. What it does say is:
No mention if defeat is supposed to be final, so that gives a nice loophole for trying again.
>> And this is why I wonder if Shinki died at the end of Mystic Square. It didn't have a real ending that showed what happened to Shinki ;_;
but Shinkiappears in Reimu's good ending..
>You need a good reason to attack"She stole my ____" seems a good enough reason for me! -- oh, wait, you mean Marisa attacking someone else, never mind. ;)
>Marisa
I'm still waiting for a game where the big bad just says "Fuck your rules" and fights you for real.
>You need a good reason to attack
>Marisa
I'm still waiting for a game where the big bad just says "Fuck your rules" and fights you for real.
I meant more along the lines of characters actually using their unique ability to kill. Like Suika making the air density around the character increase, crushing them to a bloody pulp. Or Yukari gapping their internal organs out of their body. Or Flandre going 'kyu'
Who indeed? A human drafted the spell card rules. The same humans who regularly defy the "do not attack without reason" clause to virtually no consequence. They're rewarded instead. This is an injustice against youkai. A neutral third party is needed to put things right.
Analysis
My theory is that the vampire in question is Dracula. Given the "must have been female" thing, maybe one of his "Brides of Dracula" actually wrote it up.
That still doesn't make the rules fair to youkai. She seems to relish torturing them. The examples are endless.
I'm still waiting for a game where the big bad just says "Fuck your rules" and fights you for real.
Don't think Flandre is kept eternal in her room and knows nothing about the outside world.
And Byakuren was sealed away by herself in Makai for a millennium. How did she get spellcards? :VMail-order :V
Do you people really think the Spell card rules are made when Reimu was born or something?
I was under the impression they were made between TH5 and TH6, given the latter used them but the former didn't....
And Byakuren was sealed away by herself in Makai for a millennium. How did she get spellcards? :VAnd Kanako & co moved from another world.
I was under the impression they were made between TH5 and TH6, given the latter used them but the former didn't....ZUN states that in IN's afterword. I don't know why he does not clarify anything in eosd or pcb afterword. Reimu's PMiSS part about that "vampire" kind of confused me. I could swear last time I read Reimu's profile that part was not in there (perhaps not translated). So I don't even know how many things are still unknown to us.
I see nothing wrong with 'overanalyzing' the spell card rules. Speculation and analysis of all things Gensokyo is part of what this board is for.The spell card rules them selves are pretty clear as they are. You fight till you are out of them or knocked out. It is basically a game of honour and mental victory. I don't see what needs to be analyzed about them. And I don't see how it is also unfair. As in many PMiSS profiles (like Yuka) it is reported you are instantly erased if you bother them. So basically the Youkai can choose to kill you normally or if you challange them you can have a fight without dying. Excluding the Hakurei mikos, which spell card rules standard apply. There is no other way known.
To me, the rules are pretty vague, poetic even, and leave a lot open to interprettation. Some people find speculation and analysis fun. Others don't. Fortunately, we're not all the same. When I read the words of the spell card rules, I find there's quite a bit that could go either way. I've stated as much already in this thread, and hope others will chime in with their own ideas.Oh so my different approach of analysis is not appreciated? That is interesting. Even though my posts might sound as if they are bashing, my idea is not to shut down threads or make people shut up. If such vibes are sensed, my apologies because that is not my style.
Oh so my different approach of analysis is not appreciated? That is interesting. Even though my posts might sound as if they are bashing, my idea is not to shut down threads or make people shut up. If such vibes are sensed, my apologies because that is not my style.
(still wanna know if the Japanese is saying 'reason' as in 'purpose' or 'logic')