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Title: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Sen on February 06, 2010, 02:54:33 AM: I've had FFX2 for three or four years now, and every time I try to beat it, I lose motivation and stop playing early on, usually around mid-Chapter 2. However, over Christmas break, I gathered the determination and sat down to 100% complete it this game and never have the nagging feeling of incompletion again.

Here's how it's going:
1st Run - Started on my brother's PS3 because my PS2 wasn't working for some reason. Got up to mid-Chapter 2, got roughly 33% before my brother got CoD:MF2 and kicked me off. I couldn't figure out how to transfer the save to a PS2 memory card, so I had to restart.

2nd Run - PS2 starts working again. Got to the same part of the game, then looked at the guide again and saw I had to go way out of my way to find a Moogle in the first five minutes of the game. I had not done this. Cue ragequit for two days.

3rd Run - Restart again, get the goddamned Moogle, do perfectly again. Get to mid-Chapter 3, accidentally messed up talking with the Ronso and saved before I realized it. More ragequit.

4th Run - Current run. Made sure to do everything absolutely perfectly, with the use of several backup files for areas in which it was easy to mess up. Required me to do the second half of Chapter 3 three times because of stupid little details.

* Christmas break is over and Sen goes back to boarding school

* Superbowl Weekend is extra long! Sen goes back home

I'm now on Chapter 4 and it's requiring me to watch people walk around and talk and follow them around through a very very slow camera. I've been doing this for two hours and I'm only halfway done.

I hate this game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Serela on February 06, 2010, 03:06:24 AM: Getting 100% complete isn't required at all to beat the game and, is, to put it lightly, insanely frustrating.

Overall though, the game is too easy (fight difficulty-wise) after the beginning, and the class system could definitely have been executed better.

Also fanservice outfits etcetc. I mean, shirtless sleeves? Seriously? It looks totally kickass, but it still makes me go :V inside. Some people don't like it. They're weird.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 06, 2010, 03:09:53 AM: I like this game. The Commsphere part was nice because it allowed for insight into how the world interacts with itself, and allows for comedic scenes to come forth.

Also, you are aware there's a newgame plus feature, right?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Kilgamayan on February 06, 2010, 03:10:00 AM: No reason this couldn't have been made in AnA. Moved.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Mounting Jaggis on February 06, 2010, 03:11:28 AM: I can't believe I bought this game and completed it 100%
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 03:14:34 AM: Best FF ever made. Not trolling. :V

but yeah 100% is retarded and that goes for every game
try a challenge or something

Or get Mascot and hit 99999
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 06, 2010, 03:19:52 AM: Quote from: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 03:14:34 AM
Best FF ever made. Not trolling. :V

but yeah 100% is retarded and that goes for every game
try a challenge or something

Or get Mascot and hit 99999
I'm still working on Getting 100% for Every Dressphere now. Finished up Yuna's Almost, and am working along on Paine. Once I get all of the normal skills learned for everyone, it's Gun Mage/Gun Mage Unerring Path until I learn all blue Magics and special sphere skills.

I love using the Special Spheres. It's almost like I'm a Boss Monster.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 03:23:37 AM: Extra challenge: Beat Chac non oversouled without stagger abuse, catnip, miracle potions, mascots, bribe, congrats!, eject or spare change.

Now tell me X-2 is easy. It has easily the most brutal FF bosses I've seen.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Sen on February 06, 2010, 03:48:27 AM: Oh I love the battle system in the game. I think the class system is great (although half the dresspheres are completely useless, but fun), and I've never actually gotten bored level-grinding, which only this and Persona4 have achieved so far.

I do like the game, but the stuff you're required to do for 100% is ridiculous.

Quote from: Kilgamayan on February 06, 2010, 03:10:00 AM
No reason this couldn't have been made in AnA. Moved.
...how the hell did I forget AnA existed? :(
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 03:54:02 AM: This is the only FF battle system which is seriously "active time".
It even uses AoE and distance targeting.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 06, 2010, 05:13:45 AM: Quote from: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 03:54:02 AM
This is the only FF battle system which is seriously "active time".
It even uses AoE and distance targeting.
Active Time Battle has always been about trying to make menu based combat as Fluid and as Intuitive as Possible.

FFX-2's battle system is solid proof that anything that starts out at a horrible idea has the potential to be worked into something awesome.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Matsuri on February 06, 2010, 05:16:06 AM: FFX-2 is as bad as VII in my book. (Read: frisbee quality).

I really did like X-2's battle system, though. Everything else just annoyed the hell out of me.

go play FFIV
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Hououin Kyouma on February 06, 2010, 05:23:53 AM: Quote from: Matsuri on February 06, 2010, 05:16:06 AM

go play FFIV
yes

you know who you are
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 06, 2010, 05:26:34 AM: Quote from: Matsuri on February 06, 2010, 05:16:06 AM
FFX-2 is as bad as VII in my book. (Read: frisbee quality).

I really did like X-2's battle system, though. Everything else just annoyed the hell out of me.

go play FFIV

Can I borrow some of your frisbees then?

Also, screw you, I've spent all day trying to get Leonora and Palom to not die in the challenge dungeon. I had to play through the ending three time to do that.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Widermelonz on February 06, 2010, 06:40:38 AM: I remember playing FFX-2. All I did was use Yuna's special dress sphere in almost every single battle. Also, Gunner + that one accessory + Trigger Happy = 9999 everywhere.

I hated the beginning and the middle of the game. It didn't really get good until towards the end. Overall, I didn't really enjoyed FFX-2 that much. I don't like most FF games anyways. Except FFVI. Oh god I loved FFVI.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on February 06, 2010, 06:52:40 AM: Banana, if you actually did that challenge, wow. I wonder how they programmed in unblockable Petrify?

Aside from Mystic Quest, this was my first FF. I've netted 100% twice, but I'm not going to 100% every Dresssphere. The PR campaign was a bitch, and I constantly had to remember to not use Skip Scene. Oh, and there's the CommSphere bits. Yay for guides?

On another note, Trema, you're an asshole. Screw your ability to attack three times for every one of mine (combined). I remember when I was trying not to win via Cat Nip + Trigger Happy - it was massive trainwreck time. I wonder if anyone ever had the patience to get six Iron Dukes and just use max stat girls to do something that at that point becomes completely useless.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: _Zac_ on February 06, 2010, 07:39:54 AM: Easy skill acquiring:
-Have one of the girls as a white mage.
-Have the other two in whatever Dress sphere you want to max out.
-Set cursor to mem mode
-Go into battle with weak enemies
-Make white mage use pray and the other two use a skill that won't harm the enemies
-Put weight on X button
-Amuse yourself for about an hour
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Ghaleon on February 06, 2010, 08:25:06 AM: WARNING, topic shift is approaching fast!

I was a big FF fan until 7, which dissapointed me greatly. It pains me that it is hyped so bad. I don't mind that people enjoy the game when I don't. It's the fact that it is the game that really made the series take a huge turn for the worse for me, and it's probably the most acclaimed game of all time. So of course, it's basically the standard for so many other games. ugh.

I tried FF8 after 7, found it was even worse.. I mean. After 7, I was getting kinda BORED SHITLESS of the whole "I DONT KNOW WHO I AM" storyline. I mean. I didn't particularly enjoy it with Terra in FF3/6, but it was the first time, ok. Then they do it again in FF7, wonderful. They did it again with Xenogears (in a different way which pulled off much better at least). Apparently they liked this technique for developing a plot so much that they decide to do it to the entire fucking cast of FF8, YAY.

Don't even get me started on the horribad draw system. Oh joy, a new enemy, let's sit here using one command over and over 99 times.

so yeah, after FF8, I pretty much gave up on Final fantasy... I was convinced to try FFX after much time by a friend letting me borrow his copy, I did, and it wasn't too shabby. It had its flaws, the worst of which was that battle strategy was a no brainer. Oh look flying enemy, use wakka, oh, slime, Yuyu time (was that her name? I forget), turtle=auron, etc. It really felt like playing rocks paper scissors where you could see what the other player was, with pretty graphics...But despite that, the game was still good.

Because of that, I decided to actually purchase ff12.

FF12...It's really hard to believe it's a FF at all. It feels like an MMORPG almost, only better (I'm not a big MMORPG fan). I do indeed like it, but it sure does eat up time, in addition, the whole 3d movement grid combat system is just LOADED with potential. But the fact is it's really just any other traditional rpg with the illusion that movement is involved, when in reality it's just a seamless method of making combat transition to not-combat..Kinda. It's a bit more than that, but the amount of strategic value in terms of positioning and whatnot was really kinda lame. In addition, I don't like how the game totally plays favorites. For example the main character is a beast, he is excellent at every stat and weapon. Then there's Fran, who is a total piece of shit compared to everyone else. I mean, IIRC she's among the top 3 worst characters for EVERY weapon, yay..not. I enjoy the game, but..well. I discovered Touhou during my playthru, so I kinda not touched it for like a year now. Last thing I remember was pwning some fire elemental boss in some room full of magic stuff that Fran could smell or something, who featured rather unique and good music. Pretty sure I got further than that but that was the most recent highlight (I liked the music what can I say).

so, anyway, a part of me is wondering about FF13...
1: FF12 reeked of potential, that if improved upon, will make FF13 truly amazing...Square almost never improves upon previous games however, they tend to just rework them like new completely, for better or for worse.

2: Main character doesn't look like a 12 year old, yay, but a certain part of me is nervous about being female. Sounds silly saying this considering I think Touhou's estrogen overload is actually a good thing, but...A FF game having a female lead is risky. Either Square will be like every other major game company, and try to boost sales by cheap sex appeal, or they'll try and treat her seriously. Here's the problem, I haven't liked the lead character in a square game since Xenogears, and even then I didn't like Fei more than the rest of the cast really. She DOES look a bit older than your typical modern FF lead character, so I HOPE she'll not only be more mature than previous leads, but she wont just be some sex appeal excuse. Looking at the picture on the box, seems like hotness is not a goal square has in mind (I mean she's not ugly, but I don't really see anything that says "I'm supposed to be hot" on it)...Mind you I'm not easily turned on, maybe she is "hot", I dunno. The fact that her name is "lightning" (really dumb name lol) doesn't help, square sure likes their air-related names for some reason (I wonder if Terra was intentionally an elemental-esque name as well...)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Aisha on February 06, 2010, 08:56:22 AM: I like FF7 as a game itself, but I don't like what happened to the series after it came out. I'm not sure if what happened was a function of FF7 or because I just became older and found the newer games less interesting. I was a huge fan of the series for a huge portion of my life, so FF7 coming out was a big deal to me. But it's not the best game ever, and within the series, FF3-6 and Tactics stand out as the best to me--with Tactics and (especially) FF4 being my favorites.

I tried the International version of FF10, and despite the fact that I completely maximized my party, I got up to the final boss, saved, and never bothered to finish it. This happened twice. I also tried FF12, and while I really enjoyed the battle system, the story and characters were just so dull and boring that I--again--saved before the final dungeon and never bothered finishing the game. I'll probably never try FF13 unless there's an English Asia-region release for the 360.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on February 06, 2010, 09:07:36 AM: Quote from: Aisha on February 06, 2010, 08:56:22 AM
I also tried FF12, and while I really enjoyed the battle system, the story and characters were just so dull and boring
Exactly my feelings as well, though I did finish it.
I got into the series with FFX, which has (imo) great individual characters, while in FFXII every character could be replaced by someone else without anything changing (storywise and literally, regarding the battle system.
It was fun to play, but it was not great.
The story was... wait, was there any?

What I've seen of XIII however, gives me hope. The characters seem to have personalities again (I'm especially looking forward to afro guy with baby chocobo) and it seems the story has potential as well. Battle system looks fun as hell and I guess I don't have to talk about the graphics anyway. Well, in a month I'll know if Square Enix messed up again or not.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 11:58:44 AM: Quote from: I.P.D. on February 06, 2010, 06:52:40 AM
Banana, if you actually did that challenge, wow. I wonder how they programmed in unblockable Petrify?
It's impossible, I've tried. Chac is seriously impossible to beat without cheap methods.

On the other hand, I've beaten Trema with default dresspheres without Catnip. He isn't too hard :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Helion on February 06, 2010, 12:17:06 PM: FFX and X-2 have been pretty meh gameplay wise. Don't get me wrong, the battle system in FFX was perfect, but I HATED the fact that half the skills you learned were completely useless in endgame, and that you had to grind oh so much for the ultimate weapons. 200 lightning challenge I STILL HAVEN'T COMPLETED IN 5 YEARS. I know all the FF games are grindy of themselves, but the minigames were hateful and I found little incentive to earn stuff anyway.

FFX-2 let me beat Angra Mainyu, which had about 200.000 HP (don't remember very well so I could be wrong) but pathetic attacks with underleveled characters, because I spammed the create megapotion command throughout the battle. That's to give an idea of how easy it could be. And I seriously CBA to grind for anything there.

FF7 I tried, hated and pretty much gave up on it.

FFXII is just Square messing around with new formulae, I'll see where it gets them.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Furienify on February 06, 2010, 12:26:57 PM: FFT was epic. There's a patch some people have made for the ROM version that tweaks all the class skills and it makes it all seem only more epic.

FFT is the reason I want a PSP, honestly, just so I could play the PSP port at school.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Kinzo the Astro Curious on February 06, 2010, 01:59:53 PM: God I havent played FF games for a long time, but then I only ever played X-2 and X. X was easily best of those two, whole story felt so much more engaging. And as said, I can remember X having a story, X-2... ???

god dammit you've all made me want another PS-2. (my last one the drive jammed out for some reason lol)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Stuffman on February 06, 2010, 02:19:17 PM: Now I know a lot of genres have picked up RPG elements over the years, but FFXIII is trying something bold and exciting: a movie with RPG elements!

(Seriously, if you haven't already heard, FFXIII is 100% on rails, no towns, straight line from scene to scene, don't buy it)

FFV is the most fun to play even if it has the worst story.

FFT deserves to be its own category.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 02:36:21 PM: lol nextgen.
From what I've heard, every single game is for pixelfags :V
Except for the Cave ports.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Sen on February 06, 2010, 03:37:38 PM: Quote from: Stuffman
Seriously, if you haven't already heard, FFXIII is 100% on rails, no towns, straight line from scene to scene, don't buy it

FFX didn't give you any freedom until two hours before the game ended, and look how incredibly well it turned out.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on February 06, 2010, 05:56:56 PM: Quote from: Stuffman on February 06, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
FFV is the most fun to play even if it has the worst story.

And that's why it should get a DS port.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Moerin on February 06, 2010, 06:19:31 PM: FF plots in general are, um, a bit silly, to put it lightly. If it weren't for the presentation of them, they'd be endlessly mocked for being overdramatic and, um, non-sensical. At least, that's the way I see it.

Also I liked X-2, especially the combat system. I thought it was easily one of the best in the entire series. VII, on the other hand, wasn't too bad, but it endlessly suffers for having the blandest and most generic hero and villain (I always find it odd that they also happen to be the most popular. Go figure).

As for my favourite... I'm torn between VI and IX. Mostly because I just love the villains from both of them, but there's a few other reasons. Most notably the fact that Zidane only ever really angsts once, but it's entirely justified, doesn't last too long and is accompanied by one of the best pieces of music in the series. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHsXNkI1rfA)

Also Kuja is the hottest FF character ever and anyone who says otherwise is lying~
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Ghaleon on February 06, 2010, 08:09:11 PM: Quote from: Stuffman on February 06, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
Now I know a lot of genres have picked up RPG elements over the years, but FFXIII is trying something bold and exciting: a movie with RPG elements!

(Seriously, if you haven't already heard, FFXIII is 100% on rails, no towns, straight line from scene to scene, don't buy it)

FFV is the most fun to play even if it has the worst story.

FFT deserves to be its own category.

No towns? FFX had towns at least. so like.. xenosaga 2 eh? I enjoyed xenosaga 2, but it was definately a step down from the other 2 IMO. Also sounds like they're dumping all their potentially cool changes with FF12, sigghhh. I knew it was probable but I wanted to deny it.

moar on FFT later
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FF plots in general are, um, a bit silly, to put it lightly. If it weren't for the presentation of them, they'd be endlessly mocked for being overdramatic and, um, non-sensical. At least, that's the way I see it.

I found the story in FFT to be quite excellent actually.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Dead Princess Sakana on February 06, 2010, 08:24:00 PM: Quote from: Stuffman on February 06, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
Now I know a lot of genres have picked up RPG elements over the years, but FFXIII is trying something bold and exciting: a movie with RPG elements!
Funnily enough, that makes me look forward to it more, even if I am very surprised. I don't mind that kind of games, let's see how they managed to handle it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Matsuri on February 06, 2010, 08:51:50 PM: Frankly I loved the Final Fantasy series a lot more back when the games weren't so easy they practically played themselves. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 08:55:52 PM: Quote from: Matsuri on February 06, 2010, 08:51:50 PM
Frankly I loved the Final Fantasy series a lot more back when the games weren't so easy they practically played themselves. :V
That's why I don't care about the series anymore :V
I want hard ass games lately :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Ghaleon on February 06, 2010, 08:57:32 PM: Quote from: Bananamatic on February 06, 2010, 08:55:52 PM
That's why I don't care about the series anymore :V
I want hard ass games lately :V

Aye.. I remember the anticipation I had playing FF1 on my GBA with the remake, only to be sadly dissapointed with how they cranked up the omgwtfeasy. ='(
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Xijiy on February 06, 2010, 09:03:32 PM: The battle system is a lot of fun but I find the regular enemy fights to be a bit too easy. Don't get me wrong I've heard that this game has some of the hardest optional boss fights in the series. But I felt that the normal enemy encounters could stand to be a tad bit more difficult.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: WHMZakeri on February 06, 2010, 09:28:16 PM: The Story Presentation in the latest GBA version of FFV is pretty much what they should be aiming for at least 70% of the time in any given final fantasy plot. I know FFVII would be getting a lot less rap for the shitty story if half of it was covered in Narm and Pun wars.

No towns in FFXIII? Heck, even X-2 had towns, and that's not even counting the Airship. How do you not have pitstops like that in an RPG?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Stuffman on February 06, 2010, 10:49:53 PM: Apparently you buy crap at savepoints.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on February 06, 2010, 11:38:54 PM: Sounds more like Xenosaga the more I hear about it.

Let's just hope we don't have a half-hour cutscene or cutscenes that we can save during.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Ghaleon on February 06, 2010, 11:47:32 PM: Quote from: I.P.D. on February 06, 2010, 11:38:54 PM
Sounds more like Xenosaga the more I hear about it.

Let's just hope we don't have a half-hour cutscene or cutscenes that we can save during.

xenosaga let you pause during the cutscenes though, what an amazing innovation!!!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: theshirn on February 06, 2010, 11:59:11 PM: Quote from: Stuffman on February 06, 2010, 02:19:17 PM
Now I know a lot of genres have picked up RPG elements over the years, but FFXIII is trying something bold and exciting: a movie with RPG elements!

(Seriously, if you haven't already heard, FFXIII is 100% on rails, no towns, straight line from scene to scene, don't buy it)

FFV is the most fun to play even if it has the worst story.

FFT deserves to be its own category.
Stuffman, I now officially love you and your taste in games. (Emphasis added.)

Also: Now, now, there's a town in FFXIII! It just happens to actually be a dungeon!

And to be honest, yes, you're on rails (and I mean RAILS, people; the dungeons are STRAIGHT LINES for the first 10 hours or so) but there is actually a world map where you can run around freely, it just takes forever to get to it.

The battle system...seems a bit silly to me. The only thing you have to do is switch Optimas, and then sit back and watch your characters do their thing, and switch again if you're incredibly strategic. You don't seem to actually have any real input.

Characters...well, aside from the fact that it's an utter farce (Hope? Snow? Vanilla? LIGHTNING?
and then you find out that Lightning's name is actually Eclair oh you have got to be kidding me
) are interesting enough, I guess, but the design is laughable, if incredibly pretty. Everything else about the game aside, it's absolutely BEAUTIFUL. I suppose at least Lightning, Fang and Snow could be cool, but my knowledge of Japanese is woefully insufficient to judge this.

Overall, though, I don't think I had a lot more input on the game than my roommate did, and he was the one playing. So yeah, it does kinda feel more like a movie than a game.

(I know this because my roommate beat it around a week after it came out.)

Ontopic: lol prettyprincessdressmeupX-2
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 07, 2010, 12:02:18 AM: lol FFXIII
I've just officially lost faith in square

X-2 was rather silly and girlydressup - but it has the hardest optional bosses and the best usage of ATB. Unless you cheese them.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Aisha on February 07, 2010, 12:04:21 AM: By the time I got a ways into the Xenosaga series, I was a bit bummed out that the series was cut short.

Even though the Advance version of the three Final Fantasy games were really easy, they had some brutal new extra bosses. :V I've been in the mood to replay FFVIA lately.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: BoLaD on February 07, 2010, 12:21:51 AM: go play FFVI

Fixed.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: theshirn on February 07, 2010, 12:45:35 AM: Quote from: BoLaD on February 07, 2010, 12:21:51 AM
go play FFV
There we go.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Bananamatic on February 07, 2010, 01:02:38 AM: Quote from: BoLaD on February 07, 2010, 12:21:51 AM
go play Mars Matrix
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Stuffman on February 07, 2010, 03:54:57 AM: FFVI is definitely one of the best ones but I don't think it has much replay value. I've played it through twice and I don't ever really intend to load it up again...I think the main issue is that as the game goes on the characters tend to become less unique and the battles more generic, since you start relying less on their special skills and more on magic/relics. Also, I think pretty much everyone agrees World of Order > World of Ruin.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Matsuri on February 07, 2010, 04:02:30 AM: Quote from: Stuffman on February 07, 2010, 03:54:57 AM
I think the main issue is that as the game goes on the characters tend to become less unique and the battles more generic,

Welcome to one of the biggest reasons I don't really like anything past VI (sans Tactics and IX). At the very least, VI gives you enough fun skills to play with instead of them all meshing together to all do the same shit. FFIV's strongest point is that each character has the fields they're effective in, which makes you strategize more than 'oh let's have everyone cast Flare lolol'.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy X-2 is retarded.
Post by: Aisha on February 07, 2010, 04:47:03 AM: The straightforwardness of FFIV is one of the things that makes it my favorite of the series. No annoying side-quests, no micromanagement, no bullshit. Just start and play. I also appreciate the older cast.