Ellen and Sokrates.Actually ZUN stole them from a manga he likes, they're probably less-likely than most, sry
Actually ZUN stole them from a manga he likes, they're probably less-likely than most, sry
He brought back Alice and Yuka because he's obviously a fanboy of them (omg I'm going to make this random stage 3 boss an extra boss and omg youkai moe Seihou cameo ooooooh~).Alice was reintroduced specifically to team up with Marisa in Imperishable Night. Yuka he sure seems to be a fan of though, since she seemed kinda random to pick for a seihou cameo over Reimu or Marisa... (even if they did already have their own cameos)
As for the rest though, there's a reason I like PC-98 in a way I can't like Windows: Because all the characters are a blank slate. The vile claw of fanon hasn't shaped any but the most popular characters into whatever it pleases, so the character development is up to you. I love Gengetu with all my heart, but if she reappeared then she would no longer be my Gengetu; the fanon would leap on her and she'd get a whole legion of raving fanboys who insisted they always wanted her to come back from PC-98 and so forth. I'm satisfied with her being obscure enough so I can say I'm her fan with it feeling just a little special~
Alice was reintroduced specifically to team up with Marisa in Imperishable Night.
can't you just place canon over fanon.. like I do?
there's not as much canon material for PC-98 games compared to the Windows games
Mind coming up for a reasoning for that? That's about as viable as saying the same about YukariI recall an interview where ZUN said he did that because Alice was "basically just a Youkai version of Marisa."
Everyone except for Mima and Shinki.Edgy as fuck.
"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
nintendonut888: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperishable_Night#Development
Sariel.Indeed.
For being awesome.
Sariel.
For being awesome.
All of them. Seriously. I mean... ZUN has come a long way since the PC-98 era, and honestly, most of the danmaku wasn't so impressive back then. It was often just... Stuff to dodge. In some cases, still hard as hell, but... Honestly, I'd love to see what kind of danmaku every single PC-98 character would have in modern games, what their themes would sound like if ZUN remixed them...
On topic, though... I'd agree that bringing Mima back could demand some explanation as for why didn't she appear in former games (though Yuka did manage to come back once).
"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
Five Magic StonesYES PLEASE. Touhou 13: Sudden Stones
YES PLEASE. Touhou 13: Sudden Stones
You battle across 5 stages, facing one of each. Then at the final boss, you find all of the magic stones have united and want to destroy you! A not so epic battle occurs and you win. Extra Stage Boss: Genji.
Yes I'd like genji back. For old times sake
"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
ShingyokuOH YES SHINGYOKU. I want to see more about him (her it thing)!
GENIUS! Quick scripters, do it in Danmakufu!This.( I'm no Danmakufu nerd that scripts spellcards. I'm just the dialogue scripter person.)
I would like to at least see Mima and Shinki. I never had anything against Mima.
Isn't the whole "Mima thing" only revolving around the meme of "reintroducing" her everytime a new game is announced ? I don't really see how that leads up to so much hate about her.
Sides, we've been trying to reintroduce Sakuya for ages. :V
Yumemi and Rikako.In a way, the "FOR SCIENCE" team still exists in the form of Eirin and Nitori.
Go Science!
TEAM SCIENCE must become a reality.
And for those that don't know, TEAM SCIENCE = Yumemi, Chiyuri, Rikako, Rika, Nitori, and Utsuho.
IT WILL BE DONE!
The fandom would ruin them, just like they did with many characters for Windows.Pretty sure that's already been done. =V
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6195/889723265ba63a760e08749.png)
Kotohime~
I'm amending my earlier position afterseeing this imagespending more time on the wiki. ZUN, bring back Kotohime. And Shingyoku, Rika, Elly and Mai while you're at it. Not Yuki though.
Why would you ever want Mai instead of Yuki?
Better appearance (Yuki reminds me too much of Marisa) and better personality. I like Mai's taciturn, slightly creepy demeanour, and the way she reacts if you wipe out her supposed friend first.
Personally I'd like to see what Zun's interpretation of Yuugenmagan would look like were she revived for the modern games, seeing as he seems less likely to make non-humanoid enemies than he did in PC-98 era. A humanoid Yuugenmagan would be awesome, and I'm curious as to how Zun would design her... Except, unfortunately, he wouldn't. D;
Flower TankRika needs more love~
Konngara.Yes.
No I don't need to explain my reasoning to you. >=[
Yes.
Yes you don't.
:3
Lots of PoDD love in here Ha ha, old chap!. Maybe I should play that one more...I dunno, Just knowing what they've been up to and if they're actually still around is worth enough for me, it beats having to sit through the public execution of any self respecting PC-98 touhou. PC-98's sancturary is it's obscurity, this is what I've come to learn and embrace over the years and that's the only thing that's worth staying around for too.
I'm liking the Shinki-, Mugetsu Gengetsu-, Elly-, Sariel- fandom here, but where's Luize?? Only mentioned once (maybe twice?)? She deserves more than that! She has the cutest outfit in the game, a wonderful personality, and she was going on vacation before she got beat up! Don't tell me you can resist falling in love with her, especially with the few pieces of fanwork depicting her with her luggage ready for a good time!!
Oh, Yuki and Mai are cool too. I'm glad they got mentioned. Yumeko needs more love though. Mima.... already has enough people rooting for her heheh.
And I'm not against them coming back. Sure with canon comes fanon, but there is definitely more good coming out of fanon than bad... IMO. I understand that some people don't want fanon to ruin their image of their favorite character, but I ignore fanon that I dislike, embrace the fanon I do like. Having some PC-98 characters gain some more popularity would spawn music arranges (something I'm always looking for :) ) and other doujin works. Sure, there will be bad memes, remixes, and manga, but I don't care. I only remember the good stuff anyways.
Lots of PoDD love in here Ha ha, old chap!. Maybe I should play that one more...
I'm liking the Shinki-, Mugetsu Gengetsu-, Elly-, Sariel- fandom here, but where's Luize?? Only mentioned once (maybe twice?)? She deserves more than that! She has the cutest outfit in the game, a wonderful personality, and she was going on vacation before she got beat up! Don't tell me you can resist falling in love with her, especially with the few pieces of fanwork depicting her with her luggage ready for a good time!!
then we'd get to see her be recolored AGAIN :]
it's Luize's special power
"boss who throws objects at you in addition to bullets".
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH! <3OMG LOVE YOU TOOO!! Luize is super polite in asking for a duel too :)
As I said, I totally like Luize too
(Re-reading my comment, I didn't express much about my fave chars, did I? D:)
"Well, Makai is a nice place,
so do a little sightseeing while you're here☆ " <3
And about the fanon, I don't really think it really matters if there are bad/good memes. If something about X character's fandom bothers me, I simply ignore it, just like you said. Oh yes, and one of the things I mostly want from the PC98 era now is more arranges (Especially extensions.. scarlet phoneme should be expanded..)
Also: Luize is a pretty cool dude. I wouldn't mind seeing her turn up again as a result of UFO events.I agree. I wouldn't call her a dude though.
I dunno, Just knowing what they've been up to and if they're actually still around is worth enough for me, it beats having to sit through the public execution of any self respecting PC-98 touhou. PC-98's sancturary is it's obscurity, this is what I've come to learn and embrace over the years and that's the only thing that's worth staying around for too.I understand your point, and maintain my position. Although if I did see things your way, it'd probably be better for me because, as much as I hate to say it, I can't see ZUN bringing back any PC-98 (let alone a character like Luize). PC-98 will forever be obscure, and you will be content :) while I still dream of Sariel's return.
If fanon wasn't as annoying and retarded as it is, then maybe I'd have some forgiveness, but I can't see any good with them getting their hands on PC-98. I just can't.
then we'd get to see her be recolored AGAIN :]Manipulation of
it's Luize's special power
Considering the fact that "Reimu is a b****", Kotohime should come back in order to lock herYou may want to spoiler that part, what with it being an ending and all.again (I suppose it is what I see in the ending of Touhou 3 with Kotohime, the policewoman of Gensokyo.
I don't have the screen here, I'll edit later.
(perhaps she was judged by Shikieiki and went to Makai)You don't go to Makai if you are judged by Shikieiki (I want to say you would go to Jigoku, since that's pretty much hell in and of it self). Makai is an alternate dimension created by Shinki and thus has nothing to do with the yama's judgement.
Makai returned in UFO. so it's very possible Sariel, Shinki, Mima (perhaps she was judged by Shikieiki and went to Makai), and the other ones associated with Shinki to reappear. I'm all for Sariel, though. She/he's one of the few characters that we can SAY she/he. but that's not all, Sariel is a fallen angel, that has managed to maintain his/her heavenly appearance! THAT'S SO AWESOME! Perfect for deception.