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Title: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: RainfallYoshi on November 28, 2009, 05:33:57 PM
I know. There's really nothing to say ZUN ever has any intentions of bringing any PC-98 characters back. It's foolish of us to think he ever would. Blah blah blah.

But this is the area for fun and crazy fandom topics so we can dream can't we?

Basically, what characters from the PC-98 days would you want to make a return? I'm sure there's a lot of them that would make for some cool stories in thew windows universe.

My list includes:

Rikako Asakura - Because a scientist that shuns magic running around in Gensokyo couldn't possibly cause any problems right?
Kana Anaberal - Because we don't have nearly enough ghost stories.

((Oh, and in before Mima. XD))
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: nintendonut888 on November 28, 2009, 05:43:52 PM
ZUN said once that he has no objections to bringing back old characters, but they'd be really out of place. Kinda like if Rumia was suddenly a boss again. He brought back Alice and Yuka because he's obviously a fanboy of them (omg I'm going to make this random stage 3 boss an extra boss and omg youkai moe Seihou cameo ooooooh~).

But as a very big PC-98 fan who loves the characters deeply...

Meira, Chiyuri and Yumemi. That's it.

I always felt like Meira had more to say. After SoEW the whole subplot about the yin-yang orbs just disappeared, and personally I'd like to see it come back in a less non-sensical game. As for Chiyuri and Yumemi, they were the most highly developed characters in the games, and they deserve a reappearance.

As for the rest though, there's a reason I like PC-98 in a way I can't like Windows: Because all the characters are a blank slate. The vile claw of fanon hasn't shaped any but the most popular characters into whatever it pleases, so the character development is up to you. I love Gengetu with all my heart, but if she reappeared then she would no longer be my Gengetu; the fanon would leap on her and she'd get a whole legion of raving fanboys who insisted they always wanted her to come back from PC-98 and so forth. I'm satisfied with her being obscure enough so I can say I'm her fan with it feeling just a little special~
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: RainfallYoshi on November 28, 2009, 05:52:36 PM
I'm not sure why I forgot Yumemi and Chiyuri. Shame on me! Add them in with Rikako and form THE SCIENCE TEAM.

I seriously felt that the 3 of them have so much potential that didn't get used. Yumemi and Chiyuri definitely got some good coverage, but Rikako was just kind of thrown in there from left field. I really want to see some story behind her.

The same can be said for a lot of characters that appeared in PoDD and nowhere else. They just felt a little "thrown in" and they could really be interesting if the time was taken to give them stories.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Solais on November 28, 2009, 05:53:15 PM
I'm actually against Donut's view as I want to make all the PC-98 cast (and Rin) popular. I think they deserve more attention. I just have this kind of urge to make barely noticable/non-existent/forgotten people popular and loved. I would probably say Mima and Shinki, just because I know nothing about the others. Without meme's and ZUN's characterization, they barely "exist". And I don't like that.

Also, ZUN said that these characters won't be out of place, rather he can't think up ideas how he should bring them back, like because if they're back, people would like to ask them "where have you been?" and that's a nuisance, especially for all those characters. And ZUN likes to think up new characters instead of bringing them back.

So I just stay at my Expanded Universe view: PC-98 characters exist, they never left, just they weren't in the games. I mean, it's not like everyone in this world is always on TV, right?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Sen on November 28, 2009, 06:18:57 PM
inb4 BRING MIMA BACK

Although to be totally honest, I found most of the PC-98 characters pretty dull. Maybe it's the lack of English patches for the games; I'd probably like them a whole lot more if I knew what they were saying (yes I know there's wiki translations, go away).
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2009, 06:28:59 PM
Orange
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Azinth on November 28, 2009, 06:30:40 PM
If you want to see a PC-98 character, then go play a PC-98 game.  There, problem solved.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: KomeijiKoishi on November 28, 2009, 06:31:43 PM
Mugetu and Gengetu
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: TL777 ✌ on November 28, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
Ellen and Sokrates.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Kilgamayan on November 28, 2009, 07:30:04 PM
Everyone except for Mima and Shinki.

"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on November 28, 2009, 07:31:35 PM
Ellen and Sokrates.
Actually ZUN stole them from a manga he likes, they're probably less-likely than most, sry
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Matsuri on November 28, 2009, 07:39:36 PM
Actually ZUN stole them from a manga he likes, they're probably less-likely than most, sry

Doesn't mean one couldn't hope for it! I loved Ellen, and I'd like to see her show up again, as unlikely as it is.

I'd also like to see Chiyuri and Yumemi again too.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Gpop on November 28, 2009, 07:43:01 PM
Yumemi and Chiyuri.

Just because they're awesome compared to the other PC-98 characters.

(Maybe Gengetsu/Mugetsu, but I like how they're LLS exclusive.)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on November 28, 2009, 08:02:30 PM
I'd love if any of them came back, because I'm a sucker for everything old that returns. :V
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Grand Octopus on November 28, 2009, 08:21:21 PM
I'd like to say Elly, but I think the market for incompetent gatekeepers is pretty much sown up already.

Other than her and the Rika/Sigma tag team, no-one else really stands out. I'd be a bit miffed if a new character slot was taken up by a returning PC98 to be honest.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Dizzy H. "Muffin" Muffin on November 28, 2009, 08:23:11 PM
Well, okay, I don't actually usually participate in this kind of thread. But I wouldn't mind hearing an official, modern remix of Strawberry Crisis, so I will grudgingly submit Yumemi.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: MaronaPossessed on November 28, 2009, 08:23:58 PM
I want to see Mima...:(
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: AlexX Unlimited on November 28, 2009, 08:28:40 PM
Frankly, I don't think much, if any should return. They were great and all, but most weren't all that interesting (see: the minor bosses), and some have windows counterparts that are simply more interesting (such as Sakuya and Remilia compared to Yumeko and Shinki). While I admit Mima and Shinki were notable final bosses, I wouldn't miss them if they never came back.

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He brought back Alice and Yuka because he's obviously a fanboy of them (omg I'm going to make this random stage 3 boss an extra boss and omg youkai moe Seihou cameo ooooooh~).
Alice was reintroduced specifically to team up with Marisa in Imperishable Night. Yuka he sure seems to be a fan of though, since she seemed kinda random to pick for a seihou cameo over Reimu or Marisa... (even if they did already have their own cameos)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: shadowbringer on November 28, 2009, 09:51:46 PM
As for the rest though, there's a reason I like PC-98 in a way I can't like Windows: Because all the characters are a blank slate. The vile claw of fanon hasn't shaped any but the most popular characters into whatever it pleases, so the character development is up to you. I love Gengetu with all my heart, but if she reappeared then she would no longer be my Gengetu; the fanon would leap on her and she'd get a whole legion of raving fanboys who insisted they always wanted her to come back from PC-98 and so forth. I'm satisfied with her being obscure enough so I can say I'm her fan with it feeling just a little special~

can't you just place canon over fanon.. like I do? :p  (though there's not as much canon material for PC-98 games compared to the Windows games.. this would probably make them more susceptible to fanon deviations, if they were as popular, since there would be little canon material -- writings, character profiles.. -- to "counter" fanon, or at least counterbalance it)

Also, I'm not getting the Mima hate, what if I really like her as a character, instead of following some sort of trend? (personally, she's my #1 favorite in this series)

On topic, though... I'd agree that bringing Mima back could demand some explanation as for why didn't she appear in former games (though Yuka did manage to come back once).
But damn, having Mima fight Marisa, after all this time, would be an unique event! (if done right, of course..)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: nintendonut888 on November 28, 2009, 10:07:29 PM
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Alice was reintroduced specifically to team up with Marisa in Imperishable Night.

Mind coming up for a reasoning for that? That's about as viable as saying the same about Yukari. Alice has been one of the most recurring characters in the series, and for that to even cross over from PC-98 to Windows suggests that ZUN has a liking for her.

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can't you just place canon over fanon.. like I do?

I do, but:

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there's not as much canon material for PC-98 games compared to the Windows games

PC-98's the exception. And it's really only my fanon; I have used many more PC-98 characters than Windows characters in my little story simply because I get to create their backstories myself.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: AlexX Unlimited on November 28, 2009, 11:19:57 PM
Mind coming up for a reasoning for that? That's about as viable as saying the same about Yukari
I recall an interview where ZUN said he did that because Alice was "basically just a Youkai version of Marisa."

And its funny you mention Yukari, because he used the exact same reasoning for pairing her with Reimu: They were pretty similar in personality, so he paired them up.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: shadowbringer on November 28, 2009, 11:23:22 PM
nintendonut888: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperishable_Night#Development

regarding fan fictions.. I don't feel comfortable writing fics (and I'm really not used to writing fanfics :p) if I feel that I could find potential flaws on them, due to canon possibly denying that story, and thus making it lose credibility. I've previously read about, for example, how people would make fanfics of characters from a series, and risk themselves to have their stuff invalidated by sequels (or prequels.. haven't thought of them here).
Perhaps I came to disbelieve fanon, by being warned (previously, once again) of how deceiving they can be (regarding to character backgrounds, for example), compared to the canon. If anyone has read the chinese The King of Fighters comics made by Andy Seto (who would later draw the Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon comic adaptation), people could be led to think that the events and the characters' personalities would be believable as canon, without some advice.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Letty Whiterock on November 28, 2009, 11:29:50 PM
Everyone except for Mima and Shinki.

"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
Edgy as fuck.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Cadmas on November 28, 2009, 11:34:42 PM
I want to see Elly back. Yuka is probably lonely.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Toasty on November 28, 2009, 11:40:37 PM
Sariel.

For being awesome.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: nintendonut888 on November 29, 2009, 12:02:26 AM
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nintendonut888: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperishable_Night#Development

Welp.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: PostCrisisJ2 on November 29, 2009, 12:08:50 AM
Well, I'd only want Mima back to see how ZUN would characterize her now. There's also Rikako, though mostly because of a character that uses SCIENCE in a fantasy based world is intriguing, like Nitori. Plus, there's been some SCIENCE involved with the more recent games [SA and UNL]. And I like her jetpack and she's the only character that wears glasses aside from Rinnosuke.

...that's it really.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Iryan on November 29, 2009, 12:16:06 AM
Sariel.

For being awesome.
Indeed.

Let's see... She resides in Makai, which is the domain of a mighty demon goddess, and she is an angel of death, leaving the possible explanation that she is a high ranking member of her society. The latest game took placy partly in Makai and caused some upheaval there. If the trend of one incident being linked to the previous one continues, it wouldn't be surprising if we saw the return of important Makai residents in the future...

...I can dream, can't I?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Moerin on November 29, 2009, 12:22:43 AM
Sariel.

For being awesome.

Hmmm... I suppose it'd be nice to see him return... Also Konngara, because I want to find out what exactly an "Astral Knight" actually is (and his theme was pretty cool, too).

Hmmm... But the ones I'd really like to see return are Yumemi, Chiyuri and Ruukoto.  I could imagine the first two wanting to make a return trip to Gensokyo to do some more research, and Ruukoto kind of lives at the Hakurei Shrine, so...  Also nuclear robot maids are awesome~
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: nintendonut888 on November 29, 2009, 12:28:07 AM
If Bomberman 64 TSA taught me anything, it's that an astral knight would logically be a knight hailing from the stars. The theme "Swordsman from a Distant Star" would naturally follow.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Formless God on November 29, 2009, 12:36:36 AM
Gengetu, Mugetu, Yuki, Mai, Mima and Shinki pwease.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Jaimers on November 29, 2009, 12:57:35 AM
Chiyuri and Yumemi, because they're two of my favorite characters. Sariel and Shinki are pretty awesome as well.

How would you fight Yuugenmagan in a shooter anyways?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Seian Verian on November 29, 2009, 01:03:46 AM
All of them. Seriously. I mean... ZUN has come a long way since the PC-98 era, and honestly, most of the danmaku wasn't so impressive back then. It was often just... Stuff to dodge. In some cases, still hard as hell, but... Honestly, I'd love to see what kind of danmaku every single PC-98 character would have in modern games, what their themes would sound like if ZUN remixed them...
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: shadowbringer on November 29, 2009, 01:32:34 AM
hopefully, something that could surpass Phantasm Romance (http://www.nicovideo.jp/search/幻想浪漫紀行)? :p (it seems I talk about this game a lot)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Cadmas on November 29, 2009, 01:57:00 AM
All of them. Seriously. I mean... ZUN has come a long way since the PC-98 era, and honestly, most of the danmaku wasn't so impressive back then. It was often just... Stuff to dodge. In some cases, still hard as hell, but... Honestly, I'd love to see what kind of danmaku every single PC-98 character would have in modern games, what their themes would sound like if ZUN remixed them...

I would too, but in terms of likelihood it doesn't seem to great. :./
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: nintendonut888 on November 29, 2009, 02:00:30 AM
I for one don't want to hear PC-98 themes remixed. Some of them are conductive to it, but the vast majority would sound weird. I always think modern-sounding remixes of chiptunes sound off because they're putting more instruments into it than the song needs. Besides, the fact that the songs are made in this FM Synth gives the song a quality they wouldn't have with modern day technology.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Bias Bus on November 29, 2009, 02:25:11 AM
Personally, it doesn't matter who comes back, so long as PC98 gets some spotlight. But if I had to choose.

Konngara (Bomberman TSA epicness)
Kikuri (I await to see her implemented in a game the same way the Moon of Majora's Mask was)
Sariel (End of Evangelion parody waiting to happen)
Shinki (Because I'm a hopeless Shinkifag~)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Aisha on November 29, 2009, 09:21:28 AM
The tank from stage 1 of SoEW. I want to chase it through the stage and watch it mow down fairies and things in its path while shooting danmaku back at you. :V

Seriously though, I do not really care who (or if anyone) is reintroduced. Apart from a handful of faces, most of the PC-98 cast is just a blur to me, despite the considerable amount of time I have spent with those games.

Prior to PoFV though, I would have said Yuka, as she is one of my favorite characters. I was pretty disappointed to see that she did not receive an entry in Grimoire of Marisa.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Doomsday on November 29, 2009, 11:40:08 AM
^ Yeah. I'd love to see Rika come back, and/or Yumemi.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Tengukami on November 29, 2009, 01:43:25 PM
On topic, though... I'd agree that bringing Mima back could demand some explanation as for why didn't she appear in former games (though Yuka did manage to come back once).

I'd say, if Mima is reintroduced, any "demands" to know why she didn't come back sooner should be ignored. It sounds a lot like you were owed Mima's return or something.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Snaka on November 29, 2009, 04:05:34 PM
"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
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Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.
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Five Magic Stones
YES PLEASE. Touhou 13: Sudden Stones
You battle across 5 stages, facing one of each. Then at the final boss, you find all of the magic stones have united and want to destroy you! A not so epic battle occurs and you win. Extra Stage Boss: Genji.
Yes I'd like genji back. For old times sake
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Solais on November 29, 2009, 05:10:34 PM
YES PLEASE. Touhou 13: Sudden Stones
You battle across 5 stages, facing one of each. Then at the final boss, you find all of the magic stones have united and want to destroy you! A not so epic battle occurs and you win. Extra Stage Boss: Genji.
Yes I'd like genji back. For old times sake

GENIUS! Quick scripters, do it in Danmakufu!
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Lishy1 on November 29, 2009, 06:16:48 PM
I kind of want Genji back.
Just under him is Mima-sama and Yumemi-Sensai :V
*Weeaboo*
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Rikter on November 29, 2009, 07:38:39 PM
Kotohime and possibly Meira.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: non-lolicon Ange fan on November 29, 2009, 10:21:57 PM
I want Kana Anaberal back more than anyone else.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: warpshadow on November 30, 2009, 03:17:12 AM
I don't know too much about the pc 98 games but I would like Chiyuri to return if only to get a game conversation like this

Chiyuri:You have come this far but you can go no further.
Marisa:Big talk for a ship ghost.
Chiyuri:I am not a ghost.
Marisa:You certainly look like one.
Chiyuri: I do not.
Marisa: The last person I saw who dressed like that was a ghost so why wouldn't you be one too.
Chiyuri: I am not a ghost. I am clearly alive.
Marisa: I hate it when ghosts are too noisy. Could you please quiet down?
Chiyuri:ARRRRGH!!! (comence danmaku).
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Be Pok U (1998 burst style) on November 30, 2009, 04:09:25 AM
Mima already has a redesign, I don't see how hard it would be just to put her back  :V
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: HolmCross on November 30, 2009, 04:22:35 AM
Mai and Yuki. No such thing as too many magician/witches.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Esoterica on November 30, 2009, 04:41:44 AM
Elly, Yumeko, Shinki, Kana, Mai, Gengetu

In that order.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on November 30, 2009, 05:09:25 PM
I would like to at least see Mima and Shinki. I never had anything against Mima, and Shinki would be amusing to see return, if only because her interaction with Byakuren would be hilarious. On that note, Shinki needs to bring Yumeko along, so we can have a Yumeko vs Sakuya fight.

But if I had to pick characters to actually return, I'd like to see everyone in PoDD, especially Yumemi, Chiyuri, Ruukoto, Ellen, and Kana Anaberal. And Kurumi and Elly too, just because I think they're adorable.

Oh, and Evil Eye Sigma. Being able to fight EES in a non-shitty game like SoEW would be fantastic.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Omnifish on November 30, 2009, 10:28:35 PM
Orange, Rika, Elly, and Shinki.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Primula on November 30, 2009, 10:41:16 PM


"Everyone" even includes the likes of Shingyoku, YuugenMagan and the Five Magic Stones.

Shingyoku
OH YES SHINGYOKU. I want to see more about him (her it thing)!
GENIUS! Quick scripters, do it in Danmakufu!
This.( I'm no Danmakufu nerd that scripts spellcards. I'm just the dialogue scripter person.)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Gpop on November 30, 2009, 10:48:45 PM
I would like to at least see Mima and Shinki. I never had anything against Mima.

Neither do I. It's the goddamn fanbase though.

Only reason why I mentioned Yumemi is because I would like to see how she would interact with the Windows characters. She'd be much more amusing to see than others IMO.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Be Pok U (1998 burst style) on December 02, 2009, 07:22:23 AM
Isn't the whole "Mima thing" only revolving around the meme of "reintroducing" her everytime a new game is announced ? I don't really see how that leads up to so much hate about her.

Sides, we've been trying to reintroduce Sakuya for ages.  :V
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: suki-gin on December 03, 2009, 12:14:54 PM
Rikako, Chiyuri, Shinki and Mima. Seems like Eirin, Nitori, Alice, and Marisa would have some company.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Gpop on December 03, 2009, 03:12:42 PM
Isn't the whole "Mima thing" only revolving around the meme of "reintroducing" her everytime a new game is announced ? I don't really see how that leads up to so much hate about her.

Sides, we've been trying to reintroduce Sakuya for ages.  :V

Not her. The fanbase in general.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Maiden Synnae ミ☆ on December 10, 2009, 11:27:15 PM
Frankly speaking, I think the only PC-98 character that really deserves a come back is Elly. I mean... at least she has some kind of development behind her. Using a boomerang shapped scythe as weapon, and shooting the floating tiles at you. Something different from your ordinary danmaku shooter boss... I mean, look at gengetu. She is a extra stage boss but has no definition on what is her main ability whatsoever. Apart from this, Elly has a memorable stage theme, and a decent boss theme. She is also a subbordinate from Yuka... which can be another note. Since Yuka returned in a windows game already... so, she could team up with her in order to make a playable pair, similar to the IN system. Elly just needs a surname and some more development and she would be a notable windows character. Aside from that... I would say Mima for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on December 10, 2009, 11:48:28 PM
Shinki all the way. The magnifecent Goddess of Makai needs to return with her troupe!

Kotohime was interesting too, a princess trying to be an adventurer/'policeman'. And I don't know why, but Sara looks cuddly.
Sariel, though lacking dialogue, looked pretty bad ass. I can imagine, as Angel of Death, she's an subordinate of Shinki (since last time I checked Goddess > Angel, and they both lived in Makai). Together with Byakuren they would form the Makai Triad! (God - Angel - Messiah)

And just to fit in with all the other Mimatards: WE NEED MIMAZ!!1!
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: DeadlyButterfly on December 31, 2009, 07:55:37 PM
Yumemi and Rikako.
Go Science!
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: AlexX Unlimited on December 31, 2009, 11:18:51 PM
Yumemi and Rikako.
Go Science!
In a way, the "FOR SCIENCE" team still exists in the form of Eirin and Nitori.

Eirin works with chemicals and drugs while Nitori has a knack for building fun gadgets.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: RainfallYoshi on January 01, 2010, 08:42:56 AM
TEAM SCIENCE must become a reality.

And for those that don't know, TEAM SCIENCE = Yumemi, Chiyuri, Rikako, Rika, Nitori, and Utsuho.

IT WILL BE DONE!
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on January 02, 2010, 08:23:55 PM
TEAM SCIENCE must become a reality.

And for those that don't know, TEAM SCIENCE = Yumemi, Chiyuri, Rikako, Rika, Nitori, and Utsuho.

IT WILL BE DONE!

Though poor Okuu would probably just be used as a battery.... :-[
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: SukiSynth on January 02, 2010, 08:32:48 PM
I'd like to see every single character come back.  Seriously.  I think they're all great, and deserve to be known.  Especially the ones from the first games, like Konngara, Rika, Elis...Still, something would bug me:  The fandom would ruin them, just like they did with many characters for Windows.

Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: AlexX Unlimited on January 02, 2010, 10:41:59 PM
The fandom would ruin them, just like they did with many characters for Windows.
Pretty sure that's already been done. =V

Nothing is sacred and all that...
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Furienify on January 04, 2010, 12:41:24 AM
Mima and Shinki- but I swear I have legitimate reasons in this.

Marisa and Alice are gradually developing their powers over time, perhaps moreso than Reimu or others. Marisa is becoming very close to becoming a youkai, even. She's got her own grimoire, is studying the art of Danmaku and readily developing more and more spell cards. Alice is coming closer to creating sentient dolls (See: Titania, Goliath).

All of this general power-gaining could possibly peak with some sort of interaction between characters that fandom ties them to, such as Mima and Shinki. Possibly.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Kuma on January 04, 2010, 12:47:52 AM
Ellen.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Takoto on January 04, 2010, 01:21:10 AM
Rikako was pretty cool... and Shinki was badass... so maybe them two?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Sapz on January 05, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
I quite like most of the, but if I had to pick one... Shinki. No contest whatsoever. :V Aside from kicking obscene amounts of ass, she actually has some kind of legitimate reason to return now, since the whole Makai deal in UFO.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: ebarrett on January 08, 2010, 04:33:36 AM
Yumeko.

Also: Yuka's pants.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Grand Octopus on January 09, 2010, 06:02:31 PM
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6195/889723265ba63a760e08749.png)
Kotohime~

I'm amending my earlier position after seeing this image spending more time on the wiki. ZUN, bring back Kotohime. And Shingyoku, Rika, Elly and Mai while you're at it. Not Yuki though.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: nintendonut888 on January 09, 2010, 08:00:03 PM
I'm amending my earlier position after seeing this image spending more time on the wiki. ZUN, bring back Kotohime. And Shingyoku, Rika, Elly and Mai while you're at it. Not Yuki though.

Why would you ever want Mai instead of Yuki?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Grand Octopus on January 09, 2010, 11:43:20 PM
Why would you ever want Mai instead of Yuki?

Better appearance (Yuki reminds me too much of Marisa) and better personality. I like Mai's taciturn, slightly creepy demeanour, and the way she reacts if you wipe out her supposed friend first.

(http://f.imagehost.org/0613/for_old_work_ms_18.png)

Yuki's personality just seems fairly bleh in comparison. Also, ice > fire.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Gpop on January 10, 2010, 03:21:54 AM
Better appearance (Yuki reminds me too much of Marisa) and better personality. I like Mai's taciturn, slightly creepy demeanour, and the way she reacts if you wipe out her supposed friend first.

Hey look I'm not the only one who prefers Mai > Yuki.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Ragnarok on January 10, 2010, 07:09:53 PM
if one of them i think both would be revived

i am also for yumeko and shinki, but i think it is unluckly since we already have so many "pairs"
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: RainfallYoshi on January 11, 2010, 08:10:10 AM
New CORRECT Answer: The entire PoDD cast.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Solais on January 11, 2010, 08:41:11 AM
Too bad some of the PoDD cast aren't ZUNgirls but Cameos from ZUN's favorites.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Ragnarok on January 11, 2010, 04:57:55 PM
and i also think that some of them are a bit strange and "not fitting" like Kotohime which is a PC98 Kaguya if u ask me or Rikako Asakura since she is a scientist she should live at youkai mountain with kappa, but she still is human which would be kind of strange
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: AlexX Unlimited on January 12, 2010, 03:06:09 AM
The only characters who should return are Alice and Yuka.

Oh wait, they have.

Okay, we don't need anyone else.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Spidere on January 12, 2010, 11:00:14 PM
More YUKA! And Elly. That crazy curved scythe is an awesome weapon.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Augen on January 19, 2010, 11:06:28 PM
Personally I'd like to see what Zun's interpretation of Yuugenmagan would look like were she revived for the modern games, seeing as he seems less likely to make non-humanoid enemies than he did in PC-98 era. A humanoid Yuugenmagan would be awesome, and I'm curious as to how Zun would design her... Except, unfortunately, he wouldn't. D;
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: shadowbringer on January 19, 2010, 11:55:35 PM
Personally I'd like to see what Zun's interpretation of Yuugenmagan would look like were she revived for the modern games, seeing as he seems less likely to make non-humanoid enemies than he did in PC-98 era. A humanoid Yuugenmagan would be awesome, and I'm curious as to how Zun would design her... Except, unfortunately, he wouldn't. D;

I agree, the human shape in the middle of Yuugenmagan would become more real while the eyes would become ethereal, and vice-versa. It seems creepy nowadays, in the Windows-era, but would be interesting.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: あさらぎシジェ on June 29, 2010, 11:41:17 AM
Red haired Marisa.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Formless God on June 29, 2010, 11:42:26 AM
Ellen, Ruukoto and Shinki, please.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: 日巫子 on June 29, 2010, 01:11:06 PM
I want Konngara to return.  She only appears once, with no dialogue or official profile.  We know next to nothing about her, so...
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: StainGlass on June 29, 2010, 01:23:34 PM
I'd mostly like to see:
Kana Anaberal
Because forgotten poltergeist's are cool.
Kurumi
Because she has a nice design, and we need more vampires other than Remilia and Flandre.

Possibly:
Yuki & Mai
Admittingly mostly for Yuki, but you can't have Yuki without Mai.

Undecided:
Gengetsu and Mugetsu
Elly
Luize

And I liked Ellen, but since shes not a touhou character it probably wouldn't be right to bring her back  :ohdear:


Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Bias Bus on June 29, 2010, 01:41:05 PM
None. Fandom rarely touches them, and I couldn't bare to see the only Touhous not bastardized by fandumb sink to the level or Windows.

And I'm saying this as a PC-98 fan.

Edit: Oh already posted here...still my decision stands. Alot has changed since my last post.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: orinrin on June 30, 2010, 06:11:05 AM
Flower Tank needs more love~
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: RainfallYoshi on June 30, 2010, 07:30:29 PM
Flower Tank Rika needs more love~
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: AgeBlader222 on July 01, 2010, 03:05:42 PM
Elly, if we get Yuka we better get Elly.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: MegaMarissa on July 01, 2010, 03:57:37 PM
Mima had a very interesting character to her and it would be nice to see her come up again. Also, Orange would be funny to have come up as she was literally just brushed aside by Reimu and Marisa. Having Orange appear as a stage 6 boss would just be utterly hilarious or even an extra boss. Also, it seems like Ruucoto probably should just die because the lack of characterization and is probably not even used.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Doll.S CUBE on July 01, 2010, 04:11:33 PM
I's say Shinki, Yumemi, Mima and Rikako would be who I want most to return but all of the PC-98 cast would be nice, mainly because I find them interesting.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Kyaksa on July 15, 2010, 08:30:41 AM
If there' Yuka there should be Elly... she has an epic damnuku... she needs more love XD

But to be honest I want Another Vampire Kurumi... D8 I abesolutely love SDM but Remilia and Flandre are not the only vampires!!!

Btw Wouldn't it be cool to see the interaction between Shinki/Alice and Mima/Marisa? I die to see that...
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Sriggle on July 15, 2010, 11:35:28 AM
Chiyuri Kitashirakawa and her boss. Although it would be pretty fun if Chiyuri started her own university of sorts and it completely flopped, like people went there all day to play video games at the computers, or Chiyuri being incompetent at whatever she's teaching. Oh, and everybody would sit on folding chairs.

Kana Anaberal would also be nice to see back, preferrebly living together with the Prismriver sisters or something like that. Maybe running in with Yuyko or haunting the Yakumo mansion before having a showdown with Yukari?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Forte Blackadder on July 15, 2010, 12:18:33 PM
Everyone except Mima.
That included the miko and the witch. PARADOX
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Alice★f on July 16, 2010, 01:34:37 AM
Bring back Yumeko. Show those Sakuyatards a lesson. (Sakuya is my #2 favorite character, btw)
Bring back Mima.
Bring back Elly
Bring back Sariel

FINISHED
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Shizzo on July 16, 2010, 02:30:43 AM
Kurumi should come back because she is a jerk as she throws a bullet at you before your conversation with her, making you die while she makes all that glitterly stuff before the real battle starts  :V

Okay, okay~ 

I think Elly should return too.  Her batle's super original and it'd probably be beautiful if ZUN would remake it (I'm imagining her profile be something like "Abilities: Manipulation of tiles")

And I also like Luize because she shows simpathy to humans, and likes seeing new places (I wonder if her reason to go to the human world was sightseeing or causing some chaos..  I also think she's the mastermind behind MS's events)

..and I like Kurumi too
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Miasma Melancholy on July 16, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
Kana, because she's insane and has an awesome theme.

Mima, just because she's evil and I want her and Yuka to go on another rampage in the future.

Elly, because Yuka.

Mugetsu and Gengetsu because they seem powerful and need to actually DO something.

And Chiyuri, for totally biased reasons.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Zerro on July 17, 2010, 04:39:56 AM
Bring Yumemi back  :V

Also Sariel because she/he is awesome.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 17, 2010, 03:04:51 PM
Konngara.

No I don't need to explain my reasoning to you. >=[
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on July 19, 2010, 03:12:04 AM
Luize, because she is the only worthwhile stage 2 boss.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Iryan on July 19, 2010, 11:12:42 AM
Konngara.

No I don't need to explain my reasoning to you. >=[
Yes.

Yes you don't.

 :3
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: swamp147 on July 19, 2010, 04:16:29 PM
Lots of PoDD love in here lol. Maybe I should play that one more...

I'm liking the Shinki-, Mugetsu Gengetsu-, Elly-, Sariel- fandom here, but where's Luize?? Only mentioned once (maybe twice?)? She deserves more than that! She has the cutest outfit in the game, a wonderful personality, and she was going on vacation before she got beat up! Don't tell me you can resist falling in love with her, especially with the few pieces of fanwork depicting her with her luggage ready for a good time!!

Oh, Yuki and Mai are cool too. I'm glad they got mentioned. Yumeko needs more love though. Mima.... already has enough people rooting for her heheh.

And I'm not against them coming back. Sure with canon comes fanon, but there is definitely more good coming out of fanon than bad... IMO. I understand that some people don't want fanon to ruin their image of their favorite character, but I ignore fanon that I dislike, embrace the fanon I do like. Having some PC-98 characters gain some more popularity would spawn music arranges (something I'm always looking for :) ) and other doujin works. Sure, there will be bad memes, remixes, and manga, but I don't care. I only remember the good stuff anyways.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Hello Purvis on July 19, 2010, 04:29:03 PM
Yes.

Yes you don't.

 :3

Ger Man knows what's up.

Also: Luize is a pretty cool dude. I wouldn't mind seeing her turn up again as a result of UFO events.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Serela on July 19, 2010, 06:16:16 PM
then we'd get to see her be recolored AGAIN  :]

it's Luize's special power
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Bias Bus on July 19, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
Lots of PoDD love in here Ha ha, old chap!. Maybe I should play that one more...

I'm liking the Shinki-, Mugetsu Gengetsu-, Elly-, Sariel- fandom here, but where's Luize?? Only mentioned once (maybe twice?)? She deserves more than that! She has the cutest outfit in the game, a wonderful personality, and she was going on vacation before she got beat up! Don't tell me you can resist falling in love with her, especially with the few pieces of fanwork depicting her with her luggage ready for a good time!!

Oh, Yuki and Mai are cool too. I'm glad they got mentioned. Yumeko needs more love though. Mima.... already has enough people rooting for her heheh.

And I'm not against them coming back. Sure with canon comes fanon, but there is definitely more good coming out of fanon than bad... IMO. I understand that some people don't want fanon to ruin their image of their favorite character, but I ignore fanon that I dislike, embrace the fanon I do like. Having some PC-98 characters gain some more popularity would spawn music arranges (something I'm always looking for :) ) and other doujin works. Sure, there will be bad memes, remixes, and manga, but I don't care. I only remember the good stuff anyways.
I dunno, Just knowing what they've been up to and if they're actually still around is worth enough for me, it beats having to sit through the public execution of any self respecting PC-98 touhou. PC-98's sancturary is it's obscurity, this is what I've come to learn and embrace over the years and that's the only thing that's worth staying around for too.

If fanon wasn't as annoying and retarded as it is, then maybe I'd have some forgiveness, but I can't see any good with them getting their hands on PC-98. I just can't.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Shizzo on July 20, 2010, 02:53:49 AM
Lots of PoDD love in here Ha ha, old chap!. Maybe I should play that one more...

I'm liking the Shinki-, Mugetsu Gengetsu-, Elly-, Sariel- fandom here, but where's Luize?? Only mentioned once (maybe twice?)? She deserves more than that! She has the cutest outfit in the game, a wonderful personality, and she was going on vacation before she got beat up! Don't tell me you can resist falling in love with her, especially with the few pieces of fanwork depicting her with her luggage ready for a good time!!

I LOVE YOU SO MUCH! <3

As I said, I totally like Luize too

(Re-reading my comment, I didn't express much about my fave chars, did I? D:)

"Well, Makai is a nice place,
so do a little sightseeing while you're here☆ " <3

And about the fanon, I don't really think it really matters if there are bad/good memes.   If something about X character's fandom bothers me, I simply ignore it, just like you said.   Oh yes, and one of the things I mostly want from the PC98 era now is more arranges (Especially extensions.. scarlet phoneme should be expanded..)

also,
then we'd get to see her be recolored AGAIN  :]

it's Luize's special power

Name: Luize
Species: Reverse Chameleon
Habilities: The hability to lose her colours
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Tengukami on July 20, 2010, 03:18:53 AM
Orange's triumphant return as the official youkai of summer.

I also really like Elly for some reason. She has almost no profile whatsoever, and I've heard Bad Apple!! enough times, but I the curvy boomerang scythe that she throws at you? That's really nice, and to be honest, I prefer it to The Cap'n's anchors as an example of "boss who throws objects at you in addition to bullets".
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Shizzo on July 20, 2010, 05:37:28 AM
"boss who throws objects at you in addition to bullets".

Isn't it Boss who throws objects who throw bullets at you?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: swamp147 on July 20, 2010, 08:14:15 PM
I LOVE YOU SO MUCH! <3

As I said, I totally like Luize too

(Re-reading my comment, I didn't express much about my fave chars, did I? D:)

"Well, Makai is a nice place,
so do a little sightseeing while you're here☆ " <3

And about the fanon, I don't really think it really matters if there are bad/good memes.   If something about X character's fandom bothers me, I simply ignore it, just like you said.   Oh yes, and one of the things I mostly want from the PC98 era now is more arranges (Especially extensions.. scarlet phoneme should be expanded..)
OMG LOVE YOU TOOO!! Luize is super polite in asking for a duel too :)
Oh, and I fancy that line you quoted. She's so sweet.

Arranges are mainly what I'm looking for too (although more doujinshi, fanfics, and artwork would be nice). Someone mentioned this.... and sure, new arranges of FM Synthesis music won't have its original charm, but the new stuff has its merits. Comparing apples to oranges here.

Also: Luize is a pretty cool dude. I wouldn't mind seeing her turn up again as a result of UFO events.
I agree. I wouldn't call her a dude though.

I dunno, Just knowing what they've been up to and if they're actually still around is worth enough for me, it beats having to sit through the public execution of any self respecting PC-98 touhou. PC-98's sancturary is it's obscurity, this is what I've come to learn and embrace over the years and that's the only thing that's worth staying around for too.

If fanon wasn't as annoying and retarded as it is, then maybe I'd have some forgiveness, but I can't see any good with them getting their hands on PC-98. I just can't.
I understand your point, and maintain my position. Although if I did see things your way, it'd probably be better for me because, as much as I hate to say it, I can't see ZUN bringing back any PC-98 (let alone a character like Luize). PC-98 will forever be obscure, and you will be content :) while I still dream of Sariel's return.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Alice★f on July 20, 2010, 08:18:20 PM
I dunno I just wanna see some more Yuka X Elly

Exempt Syslila's comic. err.... o_0
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Helix ⑨ on July 21, 2010, 03:17:57 PM
Yumemi cause I can't stand playing pc98 and she's the only one from the cast I think is awesome and I wanna fight her :(
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Sedrife on July 21, 2010, 03:47:14 PM
Kotohime vs. Kaguya (Maniac vs. Lunatic).  I dub it "the Clash of the Neets for the Rabbit Kingdom".
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on July 21, 2010, 09:40:15 PM
Shinki, and some of the characters from the very first game.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Mai on July 22, 2010, 03:38:48 AM
Mai.

Having Shinki and Mima back would be nice too....

But basically, Mai.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on July 22, 2010, 05:35:42 AM
then we'd get to see her be recolored AGAIN  :]

it's Luize's special power
Manipulation of
blue
color!
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Serina on July 24, 2010, 12:28:32 AM
Rika, Rikako, Yumemi and Tiyuri, the most.
But i really love the pc98 games and i really want all of them back, ehehehehehe. Seriously, is so bad that ZUN "forgotten" all the wonderful stories and characters he created... that makes me depressed.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: neosaver on August 11, 2010, 03:23:48 PM
Considering the fact that "Reimu is a b****", Kotohime should come back in order to
lock her again (I suppose it is what I see in the ending of Touhou 3 with Kotohime, the policewoman of Gensokyo.
I don't have the screen here, I'll edit later.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Iryan on August 11, 2010, 04:11:13 PM
Considering the fact that "Reimu is a b****", Kotohime should come back in order to lock her
again (I suppose it is what I see in the ending of Touhou 3 with Kotohime, the policewoman of Gensokyo.
I don't have the screen here, I'll edit later.
You may want to spoiler that part, what with it being an ending and all.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: HouraiHime on August 12, 2010, 03:00:56 AM
Either Shinki or Mima because they're both awesome.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Neo Aemilius on August 12, 2010, 11:09:55 AM
Shinki and Yumeko - Makai residents ...
Elly and Kurumi - Somehow related to yuka ...
Mugetsu and Gengetsu - cause of  Bullet Hell Rape
Sariel - Cool angel ..
Meira - what happened to her? ...
Yumemi - Crosses ...

- They are all cool (LOL)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 12, 2010, 03:03:45 PM
I think, for one, Elly must come back.

best character is best.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Something XutaWoo-y on August 13, 2010, 11:02:49 PM
Just to list 'em: Mima, Elly, and those dopey ghost.

Mima because she's awesome. Also, her only (okay, known) abilitiy is "Magic," which most youkai already have. Badass normal, anyone?

I just like Elly's design. I don't know why, I just do. Also, scythe fights against Komachi in the fighting games would be awesome. :V

And do I really need a reason for those dopey ghosts? They just feel like they never should have left the series.

These might be rather simple reasons, but oh well.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 13, 2010, 11:55:21 PM
oh yeah! I found it strange how many of the enemies just dissapeared. I wanna see the dopey ghosts again! and perhaps the evil eye demons, but that I can do without.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: JEV3 on August 15, 2010, 03:08:21 AM
My favorite character from the PC-98 series was brought back in Perfect Cherry Blossom. I'd like to see Shinki turn up again, but considering she's from Makai there may not necessarily be a reason to pull her in. Besides, apparently UFO ripped off her iconic attack, so I guess as far as ZUN's concerned, she's already back. I also really liked Sariel, but part of that could just be the way the encounter worked in tHRtP.

I guess I'd have to say Mima. She was the closest thing Touhou ever had to a recurring antagonist. Since I was introduced to the series through the PC-98 games (not counting music listened to beforehand), I really liked how Touhou had some manner of Eggman, who was always at odds with the protagonist, despite not really being the primary villain anymore.
Of course, that would be a tough achievement for the opposite reason as Shinki. While there's no room for Makai in the series after the fifth game, if Mima came back to be a similar form of threat then that would drastically change a few things about the universe.

Note, most of my information regarding Touhou is a few games outdated. I don't know the story to SA and UFO, and don't intend to find out until I play them.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 15, 2010, 07:42:59 AM
Makai returned in UFO. so it's very possible Sariel, Shinki, Mima (perhaps she was judged by Shikieiki and went to Makai), and the other ones associated with Shinki to reappear. I'm all for Sariel, though. She/he's one of the few characters that we can SAY she/he. but that's not all, Sariel is a fallen angel, that has managed to maintain his/her heavenly appearance! THAT'S SO AWESOME! Perfect for deception.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: OkashiiKisei on August 16, 2010, 01:41:09 PM
We all now what characters we want to bring back, but what about locations? I would love to see Mugenkan in a new Touhou game~

I'm also curious to see how Yuuka's mansion looks like from the outside.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Bias Bus on August 16, 2010, 02:26:00 PM
(perhaps she was judged by Shikieiki and went to Makai)
You don't go to Makai if you are judged by Shikieiki (I want to say you would go to Jigoku, since that's pretty much hell in and of it self). Makai is an alternate dimension created by Shinki and thus has nothing to do with the yama's judgement.

This said, I'd like to see Jigoku again. We only saw that once and I'm curious as to what it truly looks like beyond the lack of detail HRtP gave us a long time ago.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Myschi on August 16, 2010, 07:32:36 PM
Those dopey ghosts and kedamas, to add on to my list.

(Which I believe was: Mima, because sure why not. Shinki, because I love her design. Yumemi/Chiyuri, because... I'm not sure. Aside from loving Yumemi's cross motif and Chiyuri's outfit.)
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: JEV3 on August 16, 2010, 11:55:32 PM
Makai returned in UFO. so it's very possible Sariel, Shinki, Mima (perhaps she was judged by Shikieiki and went to Makai), and the other ones associated with Shinki to reappear. I'm all for Sariel, though. She/he's one of the few characters that we can SAY she/he. but that's not all, Sariel is a fallen angel, that has managed to maintain his/her heavenly appearance! THAT'S SO AWESOME! Perfect for deception.

I always assumed Mima ended up in hell... whatever its called in the Touhou universe. Although I'd picture her more as part of the staff than as one of the residents. Wasn't that where she first showed up anyway? I don't remember her in the Makai route in tHRtP (which is what I always go with because I like fighting Sariel so much better than the hell boss).

As for the girl/guy thing, considering its Touhou, I think its probably more likely that its a girl, even if Sariel's supposed to be androgynous. Of course since this is tHRtP we're talking about, some of the standards and expectations set by the series probably don't apply. After all, it wasn't even a shmup!
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 17, 2010, 12:02:22 AM
makai isn't heaven... remember the place they went to in SWR? THAT was heaven... well, part of it. makai is different as far as I have seen, known, and heard. both routes lead to places of undesirable location. Why do you think Byakuren wanted to get out so badly?

also: Sariel is always referred to as a guy. the only reason his/her gender in Touhou is questionable is BECAUSE it is touhou.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: JEV3 on August 17, 2010, 04:53:30 AM
As far as I know, the other route in tHRtP was supposed to be Makai but was horridly translated into Heaven. That said, I've never played SWR so I don't know what Touhou's heaven looks like, and my only frame of reference for Makai is the fifth game, which was before Touhou had any kind of rich backstory.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Lord Phantasm Satori on August 17, 2010, 06:49:34 AM
so I get to point and laugh at your lack of touhou knowledge? :derp:

kidding. you should probably look at the touhou wiki. It has some great info.

characters that would be awesome to see back: the midbosses. especially the mirror and the midboss which both appeared in 4 and 5.

meira. she gave up way too easily for a woman wanting the hakurei's power. and judging by her sprite, she DID appear to be an adult, so she should have that "I'm better than you 'cause I'm an adult" attitude. I'm not really a meira fan, its just remarkable that a character like her never showed up again.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Savory on August 17, 2010, 04:18:48 PM
Mima, for crying out loud! Where did our favorite evil spirit wander off to?
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Marin The Magus on August 17, 2010, 10:28:42 PM
just three words, I guess.
5.MAGIC.STONES!!!
Nah, I was lying xD
I want to see Yuki and Mai, I've always liked them. I don't know.
Mima probably is somewhere, still taking good care of Marisa ( I like to imagine that :3)
Anyway, as Yuki and Mai are in makai probably they'd never come back unless... UNLESS SHINKI TELLS THEM TO KIDNAP ALICE!! Lol
Whatever, they have to come back. Some other magicians that aren't...klepto/colecto maniac or asmathic.
Title: Re: PC-98 Characters - Who would you want back?
Post by: Montblanc on August 18, 2010, 05:37:35 AM
Mima was always my favorite character, since I first got into the series. The fandom surrounding her goes largely unnoticed by me. I just miss my delightfully evil, pathologically lying evil spirit who liked to hang around and make fun of Reimu, as well as occasionally go on genocidal rampage through Makai with her good ol' pal Yuka.

Other than her, Kana. I just really like Kana. Her name, her theme, her somber backstory, and her potential to be used in a variety of ways. Plus, she's a poltergeist with actual ghostly powers, unlike the musical skills the Prismrivers demonstrate.

I'd say Shinki, but it's just too unlikely, especially now that Byakuren has pretty much expy'd her. She'd still be awesome though.

And Elly because FUCKING ELLY.

Luize is nice, but I'm pretty sure she died. Sadly. D=