Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Hakurei Shrine~ => Help Me, Eirin! => Topic started by: Ghaleon on November 24, 2009, 10:01:01 AM
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Read title. Tried Mystical chain already, loved it. I would prefer it to NOT be:
1: shooter (I'll stick to Zun for that..for now, after that there is oodles of danfumaku or whatever it is content that I'm already aware of)
2: fighting (2d or 3d)
3: platformer, just not in the mood atm. When I am I'll try I wanna be the shrinemaiden and super marissa world
4: something with no translation that is almost impossible to play without. If its doable, I don't care
I hear alot of people like Touhou soccer. I guess I should try it, problem is I don't like soccer. I realize that this game probably has very little in common with most soccer games though..So if everyone mentions this one I'll try it I guess.
I'd really like an RPG if possible (probably impossible to have one translated though), mostly because it might help my brother get hooked on Touhou. He only plays "real games" (you know what I mean), and RPGs.
I realize I might have narrowed it down to zero. Just asking in case I'm wrong >=P. I kinda want a Touhou game specifically despite my steep requirements because I want a fun way to familiarize myself with the cast more without resorting to reading manga or watching anime or whatever.
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Touhoumon? (touhou puppet play) that's an RPG I think.
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He like Pokemon? He like getting his ass kicked? Touhoumon.
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So "real games" and RPG's are two different things or...?
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chess.... u can play a match even for months :P
....or 5 mins
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So "real games" and RPG's are two different things or...?
No, but his definition for "real game" is more lenient for rpgs.
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Quadruple Fantasy Sword: Tenshi's Counterattack
Tactics-style RPG. There's a spreadsheet with everything you'd ever want to know about the game translated into English (EXCEPT THE DIALOGUE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF), and the menus will take maybe an hour tops to get used to.
Five story modes too, but like I mentioned, moonrune dialogue.
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I'd really like an RPG if possible (probably impossible to have one translated though)
The entire main game of Touhou Labyrinth is translated. It's really, really good. The translation isn't finished, but a partial patch can be gotten at Pooshlmer and applied that translates more than sufficient amounts for you to play that it should be completed by the time you reach it.... And yes, save files are easy to transfer
It's a dungeon crawler, but there's a startlingly huge amount of strategy (Due to a large party size that you can rotate around in battle), and a lot of characters to join (A total of 40). For a doujin RPG, it's... really really good.
There's hardly any videos up, but, Here's the fight with Chen on 1F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDENV1KKt0)
I'm enjoying the hell out of it
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Thanks guys. I'll try em all eventually. About Touhoumon though, I've never played a pokemon game before at all. Is it suggested that I try one just a bit to get the hang of it for Touhoumon (since a pokemon game will likely have much better instructions/documentaiton in English and such), or will it be easy enough to figure it out without that experience?
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Touhoumon's pretty easy to get used to if you're new should you go with the Aqua/Yui version me and Aquamentis are currently working on at Pooshlmer.
However, there are japanese high-difficulty games (And one english high-difficulty one I'm going to release the moment I can edit the one last thing I need to), that are for much more experienced players.
http://www.mediafire.com/?my4tqzoyn5n
There's the newest A/Y version. There should be a new one tomarrow, though, so I suggest keeping up on this thread.
http://www.pooshlmer.com/wakaba/res/411977.html#413677
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Touhoumon's pretty easy to get used to if you're new should you go with the Aqua/Yui version me and Aquamentis are currently working on at Pooshlmer.
However, there are japanese high-difficulty games (And one english high-difficulty one I'm going to release the moment I can edit the one last thing I need to), that are for much more experienced players.
http://www.mediafire.com/?my4tqzoyn5n
There's the newest A/Y version. There should be a new one tomarrow, though, so I suggest keeping up on this thread.
http://www.pooshlmer.com/wakaba/res/411977.html#413677
I checked this out. So it's a GBA game then? Do you have any idea if I can download the rom onto my Gameboy DS R4 and play on there? I've never tried running a GBA game on my R4 before.
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TBH I wouldn't start touhoumon if you've never played pokemon before. In pokemon the 'types' (fire/psychic/fighting/ground etc.) are really obvious, but in touhoumon you sometimes don't understand shit about your enemy (partially because they sometimes use attacks from the main series such as master spark/fujiwara volcano) so it's a bit tougher to figure out the enemy's weakness. Also the levels of enemies seem higher in touhoumon.
You could play one of the normal pokemon games before trying, then it will be fine.
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I checked this out. So it's a GBA game then? Do you have any idea if I can download the rom onto my Gameboy DS R4 and play on there? I've never tried running a GBA game on my R4 before.
I don't really know, actually. I've never tried flash carts before.
TBH I wouldn't start touhoumon if you've never played pokemon before. In pokemon the 'types' (fire/psychic/fighting/ground etc.) are really obvious, but in touhoumon you sometimes don't understand shit about your enemy (partially because they sometimes use attacks from the main series such as master spark/fujiwara volcano) so it's a bit tougher to figure out the enemy's weakness. Also the levels of enemies seem higher in touhoumon.
You could play one of the normal pokemon games before trying, then it will be fine.
That is true, however there's also a somewhat different type weakness table in Touhoumon. I believe Rock isn't weak to water in it for one such example. People who have played more pokemon than touhoumon are often confused by this.
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Make sure to post here once you're done. I've been waiting for an English high difficulty version. Though starting something like that without playing the easier ones might not be a good idea, but that's not my style. I prefer picking the highest difficulty I can, though I make exceptions sometimes.
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I checked this out. So it's a GBA game then? Do you have any idea if I can download the rom onto my Gameboy DS R4 and play on there? I've never tried running a GBA game on my R4 before.
IIRC running GBA ROMs on DS usually requires a slot 2 (GBA slot) flash cart too. Though I haven't tried it myself either.
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Make sure to post here once you're done. I've been waiting for an English high difficulty version. Though starting something like that without playing the easier ones might not be a good idea, but that's not my style. I prefer picking the highest difficulty I can, though I make exceptions sometimes.
I'm attempting to release an edited Aqua/Yui one that is massively hard, but I ran into some trouble at the very end. So far, it's about 80% complete.
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Touhoumon has it's own board now, by the way. It's here - http://www.amarilloviridian.co.cc/kareha/index.html
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I personally would love to play the God Mode that is in the works right now. Getting killed at the start... who wouldn't want that?
That S-Marisa and S-Remillia are just plain broken.
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Any Touhou games of the visual novel variety?
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Well, there's Wrigglui, which has absolutely beautiful artwork, but no English patch, so you're kinda missing out on the whole "novel" part.
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Damn. Hopefully it gets a patch soon. Thanks.
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Damn. I'm trying to get Touhou Labyrinth working but every link I find for the ver 2.04 patch is BORKED and I can't get the English patch working.
This is so freaking irritating.
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Damn. I'm trying to get Touhou Labyrinth working but every link I find for the ver 2.04 patch is BORKED and I can't get the English patch working.
This is so freaking irritating.
You need to run Labyrinth in Japanese setting too. I think the 2.04 actual link is further down in the poosh thread.
The english patch, Just run replace with the full update in the thread.
Also the game is pure evil.
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I'm getting the impression Touhou Labyrinth is like a Touhou equivalent of Etrian Odyssey with a massive party. Is this an accurate assumption?
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The link on the poosh thread is broken. I even went to the main site that someone pointed to further down and the link to it there is also broken.
I haven't been able to find any other downloads so I'm kind of stuck right now. *sigh*
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touhou hikari: Pirephery of power
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The link on the poosh thread is broken. I even went to the main site that someone pointed to further down and the link to it there is also broken.
I haven't been able to find any other downloads so I'm kind of stuck right now. *sigh*
http://www.mediafire.com/?mzdgl54mxmi
You're welcome.
Also, if the game crashes a few seconds after startup, you need a font. The poolshlmer thread has it.
Install order is...
*Copy Plus Disk files (Including image2 and music2, etc) onto the main game files, including overwrites
*Copy 2.04 patch files into that. Do overwrite.
*Unzip the english patch to the folder and run replace.bat, after getting all the files
...At a point soon, there will just be a prepatched executable and stuff to extract, as the patch is basically finished.
I'm getting the impression Touhou Labyrinth is like a Touhou equivalent of Etrian Odyssey with a massive party. Is this an accurate assumption?
More or less. It's not directly Etrian Odyssey (The creator's site teased at them making an -actual- Touhou EO), but a dungeon crawler, so still fairly accurate.
touhou hikari: Pirephery of power
Go away
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Garlyle I love you so much right now. Seriously. <3
I really appreciate the upload. I can finally get around to playing this epicness. <3
EDIT: Why is all the introduction dialogue still in Japanese? @_@
EDIT: Looks like "status.txt" was accidentally left out of the english patch zip. Got it and the patch is successful. Woot woot.
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Garlyle I love you so much right now. Seriously. <3
I really appreciate the upload. I can finally get around to playing this epicness. <3
EDIT: Why is all the introduction dialogue still in Japanese? @_@
EDIT: Looks like "status.txt" was accidentally left out of the english patch zip. Got it and the patch is successful. Woot woot.
No problem, ha ha.
If you ever run into any problems or questions or anything, just ask and I'll help you out. I'm about halfway through the main game at this point @_@
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I just got to Floor 2. Chen and Hong were bitchy bosses at first but I got through them finally. They're both great to have on my party. Chen is wtfspeedy and her 20 SP row attack is lovely. Hong's high HP and def is great to have around too.
I accidentally ran into one of Wriggle's super bugs and got pwned though. =(
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I just got to Floor 2. Chen and Hong were bitchy bosses at first but I got through them finally. They're both great to have on my party. Chen is wtfspeedy and her 20 SP row attack is lovely. Hong's high HP and def is great to have around too.
I accidentally ran into one of Wriggle's super bugs and got ⑨ed though. =(
Chen's best part is her almost non-existant delay after Flight of Idaten (And actually non-existant delay after Kimontoku), which, added to her great speed, can deal out lots of damage in very little time on bosses. And Meiling tanks like nobody's business (I'm up to F10 and she's still my most resistant character), because she can actually heal herself pretty well and can remove ailments too (This will save your ass so many times, and makes Remilia's Curse of Vlad Tepes usable). Unfortunately, of the four or so actual "Tanks" I have by now... she also does the least damage output.
If you haven't caught on or read these yet, well, do so...
1. Evasion is a literally worthless stat. It never works. Ever. Sadly, this kinda nerfs poor Chen, who was made statistically to only be capable of surviving by dodging something flat out. Now she's one of the most fragile characters (At least Patchy has excellent MND)
2. Elemental affinities only affect the damage you take, not how much you dole out. It's 100/affinity that determine damage modifier - so numbers below 100 are actually very significant - as 75 is 1.3x, and 50 is 2x damage, and so on, but numbers above 100 slowly become less important (200 = .5x, 300 = .3x, etc., up to the max of 500 = .2x). Boosts at level up are +2, or from stat points are +3.
3. Characters swapped to the back recover a tiny bit of HP and SP each action. Now that you actually are gathering a bit of a party, know that for bosses, don't waste your time using Focus in general when you can swap in someone with a full SP stock and take advantage of that while the other recovers.
4. All non-affinity/resistance stats are based on (Value) * modifier - where Value is the character's base value for their level (Always the same), and Modifier is a % increase based on number of times it was boosted at level up (+2 each time), level via Stat Points (+3 each time), and added values based on equipment. What this means is that these continue to build up and effect things regardless of when you get em, and they're more effective on stats that are already high for a character. It also means a +30% Attack accessory is just a 30% higher modifier, not a 30% boost to the total, if you were wondering why they may have not seemed to be right.
5. Characters active at the end of battle get 100% EXP; those in reserve get 90%, and those back at the SDM (Including those who've returned to Gensokyo due to 0 HP/TP) get 80%. New characters get EXP equal to 80% of Reimu's total, so keep her around (She's awesome anyway), but other than that, don't worry about leaving people behind as they won't fall too far.
Anyway, as for the bugs? Kill them before they can act. They really have very little HP - Patchouli can knock em down with one shot, probably @_@
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I've been getting used to the exploration system a bit now. I finally figured out what TP does and such. It's better to get through random battles as much as you can and then rest than it is to run away. Running takes 3 TP, that's so bitchy =(.
Also, I thought that Chen's evasion wasn't doing anything. I also thought all those mentions of accuracy didn't seem to mean much either. (Marisa's Earthlight Ray, for example, says "get used to it missing!" but it has never missed)
Am I right in keeping Patchy in the back row? Her TP is so pathetically low that she seems to duck out of the labyrinth before I can really get anything done. Right now my front row party is Hong, Marisa, Remilia, and Chen but Marisa and Chen seem especially fragile to bosses. I just love their really cheap spellcards too much though.
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I've been getting used to the exploration system a bit now. I finally figured out what TP does and such. It's better to get through random battles as much as you can and then rest than it is to run away. Running takes 3 TP, that's so bitchy =(.
Also, I thought that Chen's evasion wasn't doing anything. I also thought all those mentions of accuracy didn't seem to mean much either. (Marisa's Earthlight Ray, for example, says "get used to it missing!" but it has never missed)
Am I right in keeping Patchy in the back row? Her TP is so pathetically low that she seems to duck out of the labyrinth before I can really get anything done. Right now my front row party is Hong, Marisa, Remilia, and Chen but Marisa and Chen seem especially fragile to bosses. I just love their really cheap spellcards too much though.
TP works like this
Switch Out in battle: 1 TP (Can't do it if at 2 TP or less)
At end of battle...
100% HP: 1 TP
75%+ HP: 2 TP
50%+ HP: 3 TP
25%+ HP: 4 TP
<25% HP: 5 TP
Escape: add 2 more TP to the cost
Anyway, I haven't seen enemies evade either yet.
Also, yeah, more or less. You can still get some good use out of her (Royal Flare is basically a press-button-win-battle thing), but it's up to you. Later on, you'll be rotating characters around a lot more to just be able to continue farther, because KO-ing enemy groups without taking in damage becomes harder.
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Woo! I've been progressing pretty steadily through the game. I'm up to Floor 3 now and have been exploring pretty successfully. I accidentally ran into Rumia at one point though. I was doing fine against her until she started spamming "Dark Side of the Moon" and raped my party.
Sigh.
My new front row party is now: Hong, Marisa, Remilia, and Cirno. THE STRONGEST is turning out to be a pretty damn nice addition.
Also, Minoriko's buffing and healing comes in handy in desperate times.