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Title: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on May 12, 2009, 03:15:36 pm
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nintendo_confirms_Generation_II_remakes
I'm speechless... Thank you Gamefreak... Or should I say, GameGOD. (http://dustloop.com/forums/images/smilies/custom/psyduck.gif)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: trancehime on May 12, 2009, 03:18:39 pm
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

My theory was disproved...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Gpop on May 12, 2009, 03:36:02 pm
Will get if Kanto region remains.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Wordspoken on May 12, 2009, 11:00:19 pm
Makes sense considering the platforms they were released. Though, it feels a bit of "cashing in" anyhow...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Edible on May 12, 2009, 11:02:13 pm
Ugh, more of the same.  Why does this franchise still exist?

*preorders*
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 12, 2009, 11:03:55 pm
Since most people's GSC games no longer work due to long term stupidity on the game designer's part, this remake actually is warranted. I've been afraid to ever replay those games because even though they still save, the clock doesn't work...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: An Odd Sea Slug on May 12, 2009, 11:23:27 pm
Out of all the things that could potentially get me back into the franchise...

*preorders*
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Drake on May 12, 2009, 11:24:14 pm
Oh. If I realized people would actually discuss it here I would have posted it like three days ago.

http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Mm75hxX7Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvatNAUKFmQ

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00007.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00008.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00016.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00017.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00022.jpg
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/slowkingsley/DVC00006.jpg


Also put these in your sigs I made them etc

(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/109/heartgold.png)
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7696/soulsilver.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 13, 2009, 01:22:12 am
*fanfare*
YES!
YES!
THIS IS DELICIOUS!!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 13, 2009, 01:39:11 am
Minimum workload, maximum profit...why not?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 13, 2009, 01:44:11 am
Minimum workload, maximum profit...why not?
Makes sense...

WHOO HO-OH!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 13, 2009, 01:51:08 am
And it should be a great collection for the fan since you can import from other version and finally get almost everything.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on May 13, 2009, 03:09:19 am
NO WAI THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE

-Rejoice-
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Maid Xan~ on May 13, 2009, 03:14:45 am
FUCKYESFUCKYESFUCKYES!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Drake on May 13, 2009, 03:47:54 am
Minimum workload, maximum profit...why not?
Minimum? The only part they didn't have to redo was map out the areas, which is an incredibly small portion.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 13, 2009, 04:15:25 am
Minimum? The only part they didn't have to redo was map out the areas, which is an incredibly small portion.
I consider copy, paste, alter some script and update the rest are minimum.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Prody on May 13, 2009, 07:36:47 am
For me, I enjoy the application of 4th gen metagame into the 2nd gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Demonlord Pichu on May 13, 2009, 07:47:29 am
M.bison.gif

Geeze, took them long enough.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: trancehime on May 13, 2009, 11:24:02 am
Hey at least you guys aren't bitching like those butthurt BulbaGarden folks whining over changing the female trainer. :/
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 13, 2009, 12:00:56 pm
Hey at least you guys aren't bitching like those butthurt BulbaGarden folks whining over changing the female trainer. :/
wat
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: trancehime on May 13, 2009, 12:06:15 pm
wat

Let's start an Anti GameFreak crusade!! They aren't using Crystal!!! (http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=835740&postcount=9)

Geez, what a whiner. You got your fucking remake, don't complain when a single replacement makes you claim that they "ruined" the game of your dreams.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on May 13, 2009, 01:35:27 pm
Will get if Kanto region remains.

Oh it'll be there, don't worry about it... Just pray that they don't butcher it like they did with the originals... That made me cry. Seriously.

M.bison.gif

Geeze, took them long enough.

Totally... I actually thought that a GS remake would never happen because of how long it took... I wonder if they'll retcon the years Red has been training in Mt. Silver... It's now been 5 years since FR/LG came out. Wishful thinking, but I'm hoping he'll have a full lvl. 100 team with Pokemon Stadium level AI. :D
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: trancehime on May 13, 2009, 02:02:25 pm
It's now been 5 years since FR/LG came out. Wishful thinking, but I'm hoping he'll have a full lvl. 100 team with Pokemon Stadium level AI.

>5 years since FR/LG came out
>Pokemon Stadium level AI

?????? FRLG AI is superior to Pokemon Stadium AI, and RSE AI is just about the same, a little better, more specifically, Emerald AI, is the best.

You saying you want the battles EASIER? 
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on May 13, 2009, 02:14:30 pm
WAT! I didn't realize that Pokemon Stadium AI was bad!. I heard it was really good!. So good infact, that they had to tone down the difficulty for Pokemon Stadium 2... But if you say so, Pokemon Emerald AI FTW!. >_>;
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Drake on May 13, 2009, 05:49:59 pm
The new girl is amazing and I'm waiting patiently for naughties to show up.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Zengeku on May 13, 2009, 08:19:13 pm
They should include a Hard difficulty setting. That game was painfully easy.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 13, 2009, 08:25:09 pm
Could be said for all the games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Demonlord Pichu on May 13, 2009, 08:29:32 pm
Post-game junk was supposedly the 'Hard' difficulty, not that it's saying much because with high level pokemon you can still rape the competition 3 times before they hit the ground.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 13, 2009, 08:33:27 pm
They should include a Hard difficulty setting. That game was painfully easy.
If the game is 10X bigger and LV is max at 1000.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Demonlord Pichu on May 13, 2009, 08:37:09 pm
They should make it as (nintendo) hard as Moemon FireRed. Sweet Jesus, that was the most evil pokemon-esque game I've ever played. I actually got lost in the Viridan Forest. The Viridian (fucking) Forest, I tell you.

EDIT: But, to be fair, Pokemon IS supposed to be geared towards kids anyway. So yeah, kid level difficulty and all...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 13, 2009, 08:39:51 pm
One thing I don't like about the system is everyone can unrealistically use potion to free max heal whenever, I barely do it since it feel like cheating  >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: trancehime on May 14, 2009, 01:24:45 am
They should make it as (nintendo) hard as Moemon FireRed. Sweet Jesus, that was the most evil pokemon-esque game I've ever played. I actually got lost in the Viridan Forest. The Viridian (fucking) Forest, I tell you.

EDIT: But, to be fair, Pokemon IS supposed to be geared towards kids anyway. So yeah, kid level difficulty and all...

You played the Kichiku Moemon FireRed, which was purposefully designed to be THE hardest Pokemon game. I never finished it because it is extremely hard to get through the Seafoam Islands to reach Cinnabar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcxfiF-7df8).

Go play Gold/Silver Moemon... sample from me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjafFdQ8dAY)

One thing I don't like about the system is everyone can unrealistically use potion to free max heal whenever, I barely do it since it feel like cheating  >:(

"unrealistically"

Actually this is a standard in all the Pokemon games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 14, 2009, 01:29:11 am
You played the Kichiku Moemon FireRed, which was purposefully designed to be THE hardest Pokemon game. I never finished it because it is extremely hard to get through the Seafoam Islands to reach Cinnabar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcxfiF-7df8).

Go play Gold/Silver Moemon... sample from me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjafFdQ8dAY)

"unrealistically"

Actually this is a standard in all the Pokemon games.
Eheheh you sound funny.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: nintendonut888 on May 14, 2009, 01:45:31 am
I saw discussion about AI in these games and I remember in my traumatic replay of Pokemon Red (as in how I spat on all those hours of grinding I did 10 years ago and beat the Elite 4 my first try with an underleveled team), Koga's last Weezing used Explosion on me. Great job. >_> And how in my Yellow version Gary's Flareon never uses anything but quick attack.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Demonlord Pichu on May 14, 2009, 01:56:44 am
You played the Kichiku Moemon FireRed, which was purposefully designed to be THE hardest Pokemon game. I never finished it because it is extremely hard to get through the Seafoam Islands to reach Cinnabar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcxfiF-7df8).

Go play Gold/Silver Moemon... sample from me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjafFdQ8dAY)
Huh. Really now? I didn't even know the patch went up that far (my current one is stuck at Fushia City). I'll have to find another one then.

One thing I don't like about the system is everyone can unrealistically use potion to free max heal whenever, I barely do it since it feel like cheating  >:(
I find it more 'annoying' than I do cheating. Although, what seems to piss me off the most is the computer's way of using heal items; You're about to finish off some guys pokeyman then the next thing you know *Oops Full Restore!* Now you have to go through the entire process again. The only way to really remedy this is to outright kill them in one-shot before they ever have a chance to know what the hell you just shot at them (which can be done).

Also, shouldn't we be discussing the good stuff about this remake rather than what pisses us off about Pokemon in general? Oh wait...this is the internet. Nevermind then, carry on.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 15, 2009, 09:05:48 pm
Saw the trailer, starter pokemon can follow you again!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on May 17, 2009, 06:18:28 pm
^ I just realized how awesome that is... Having a 7'7" Feraligatr following you around would be a killer sign of your status in the Pokemon world.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on May 18, 2009, 12:37:00 am
^ I just realized how awesome that is... Having a 7'7" Feraligatr following you around would be a killer sign of your status in the Pokemon world.

How I would GIVE to have a Snorlax follow me and see if they can FIT through the pokemon center
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 18, 2009, 12:55:15 am
How I would GIVE to have a Snorlax follow me and see if they can FIT through the pokemon center
Snorlax takes 2x2 square, pokemon center door is 2 square, should works. Would have to put it back in the ball before going to narrow places though.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on May 18, 2009, 01:45:25 am
what about the Gold/Silver Snorlax, it is AWESOMELY big.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 18, 2009, 02:02:32 am
what about the Gold/Silver Snorlax, it is AWESOMELY big.
Do they have sprites for every pokemon!? o_O
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 18, 2009, 02:04:44 am
It's still unconfirmed if there will be for all instead of starter.

Anyway, 
(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/gsremake_trainers01.jpg)

I remember someone said the girl suppose to be hot... >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Drake on May 18, 2009, 04:12:58 am
She is. You just haven't seen the right art.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Ramus on May 18, 2009, 07:52:04 pm
Time to be party pooper.

I used to play Pokemon way back when there was red and blue.  Then when silver and gold came out, I got that too.   After that, the series just seemed to repeat itself with some new Pokemon and some new moves but same adventure though a slightly different looking place.

So I'm going to ask, what appeal does Pokemon have the third or fourth time?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 18, 2009, 08:03:03 pm
I enjoy the challenge of getting every single one... Especially the thrill of struggling to catch legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Drake on May 18, 2009, 09:36:09 pm
Third gen sucked ass, and I'm pretty sure most everyone can agree. 4th gen is actually pretty good. Unfortunately the only way to attract attention was to cram in fifty million legendaries, but it's worth it. 2nd was the best though. The best.

But it's pokemon. It's the same thing with a new region, new pokemon, new moves, new gameplay gimmicks and new other gimmicks. You're not really expecting too much, I hope.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 18, 2009, 10:30:17 pm
You're not really expecting too much, I hope.
Maybe is the idea that no one will expect too much out of it that made it sold well.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Ramus on May 18, 2009, 10:38:39 pm
So basically I'm supposed to lower my expectations to enjoy a game?  *cough*

So yeah, looking into this, the market appeal type basically works that they can release two generations of Pokemon games for ever generation they target (the little kids), thus it works on a continual chain that never wears out because they keep getting new buyers in.

Regardless, the series does have merit, but needs to change a lot more between the games.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pedonymous on May 18, 2009, 11:07:29 pm
So basically I'm supposed to lower my expectations to enjoy a game?  *cough*

So yeah, looking into this, the market appeal type basically works that they can release two generations of Pokemon games for ever generation they target (the little kids), thus it works on a continual chain that never wears out because they keep getting new buyers in.

Regardless, the series does have merit, but needs to change a lot more between the games.
It needs to be DARKER...

And EDGIER.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: AJC on May 18, 2009, 11:33:36 pm
they need a game thats truely based on the pokemon special manga...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Nemo★Ma on May 18, 2009, 11:36:27 pm
they need a game thats truely based on the pokemon special manga...

True

Last April Fool day I forged a fake news on the Chinese Forum Saying they will do a Pokemon Special Yellow Version, and oh god lots of people actually fell for it.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on May 18, 2009, 11:46:24 pm
Third gen sucked ass, and I'm pretty sure most everyone can agree.

But it's pokemon. It's the same thing with a new region, new pokemon, new moves, new gameplay gimmicks and new other gimmicks. You're not really expecting too much, I hope.

Wait a minute... How can 3rd gen be so bad if you say so yourself that each Pokemon game is the basically the same thing?!.
Also, I strongly disagree with you. 3rd gen is my favorite. >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on May 19, 2009, 12:28:43 am
3rd Gen would be Ruby and Sapphire right?

I have no qualms with each gen but it get's older and older and older-er with every gen, so that's why i stopped.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Star Sapphire on May 19, 2009, 06:29:39 am
Time to be party pooper.

I used to play Pokemon way back when there was red and blue.  Then when silver and gold came out, I got that too.   After that, the series just seemed to repeat itself with some new Pokemon and some new moves but same adventure though a slightly different looking place.

So I'm going to ask, what appeal does Pokemon have the third or fourth time?
Truth be told, I lost interest when Ruby and Sapphire came out. That was primarily because they felt like a step back from Gold and Silver. So I'm really looking forward to these, as they had some of the best features, and just a nice huge feel thanks to having two games worth of content.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: trancehime on May 19, 2009, 07:50:34 am
Third gen sucked ass, and I'm pretty sure most everyone can agree. 4th gen is actually pretty good. Unfortunately the only way to attract attention was to cram in fifty million legendaries, but it's worth it. 2nd was the best though. The best.

But it's pokemon. It's the same thing with a new region, new pokemon, new moves, new gameplay gimmicks and new other gimmicks. You're not really expecting too much, I hope.

Third gen AI didn't suck ass, it is the best actually.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on May 19, 2009, 02:50:15 pm
just coz my friend asked me to cos one of these..

http://www4.atwiki.jp/hitec/pages/50.html

Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 19, 2009, 02:58:40 pm
Lol Boy version this time...
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Generalguy on May 19, 2009, 03:05:40 pm
Will they balance them a bit better? I was always pissed off that over half the Pokemons had shitty stats (after evolution of course).
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on May 20, 2009, 10:41:01 pm
Third gen AI didn't suck ass, it is the best actually.

He wasn't referring to the AI, just the games as a whole. Weird, because 3rd gen brought us FR/LG, which is miles better than the original R&B, (unless you're wearing the nostalgia goggles of course.) and Emerald, which is the only 3rd version that's actually worth the purchase, as it's a much bigger improvement on the original 2 versions than Yellow, Crystal & Platinum.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Prody on May 21, 2009, 09:17:50 am
The AI... isn't really that good, actually. In Pokemon games, you're always using super effective moves against every trainer in the game. In fact, doing that will bring you through the game right away!

Even if one part seems unbeatable (I REALLY doubt this, but it can happen if you use repel on every one of your steps and dodge every trainer), strategy can still be used to win the game. Or just plain grinding at your nearest high-level wild pokemon point.

For an example of how how abusable the level of AI is, check Kaizo Pokemon. For anyone who does not know what's this, its basically a rom hacking Pokemon Emerald to be as hard as the Mario series of the same name (Kaizo Mario World). Probably by the same creator, though.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4388040

And, if you haven't, you should watch it. It's entertaining and epic. Like the Mario series.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: shinyjam on May 21, 2009, 01:58:40 pm
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4388040

And, if you haven't, you should watch it. It's entertaining and epic. Like the Mario series.
Now that's a pokemon master! Beating lv 25-30 group with lv 7-8 group.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 10, 2009, 01:45:11 pm
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/CoroCoro_reveals_more_information_on_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver
Ah finally! some noteworthy news!. Kyogre & Groudon can now be caught in Johto after beating the Elite 4.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 10, 2009, 04:36:41 pm
I wonder how will they handwave their presence.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pako on June 10, 2009, 06:17:24 pm
http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/CoroCoro_reveals_more_information_on_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver
Ah finally! some noteworthy news!. Kyogre & Groudon can now be caught in Johto after beating the Elite 4.

And yet again they are version exclusive, I was planning to get Soulsilver for Luigia but now that Kyogre is in Heartgold I might rethink mine choice.

EDIT: And why is Chyntia in the presence of Arceus? more background info perhaps?
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 11, 2009, 02:55:30 am
Ho-Oh & Lugia aren't version exclusive remember?. You can still get Lugia in HG.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Pako on June 11, 2009, 10:47:39 am
Ho-Oh & Lugia aren't version exclusive remember?. You can still get Lugia in HG.

Oh yeah, I forgot.

By the way, it is confirmed that if you have the movie event Arceus that you can catch a level 1 Palkia, Dialga or Giratina.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 12, 2009, 10:59:56 pm
No, you misread the article, those are just rumors.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: KumaKinko on June 13, 2009, 02:39:42 am
New Roxy is cuter then old Crystal, IMO
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 14, 2009, 05:40:13 am
I've always found Crys to be a weak character design. Roxy is a big improvement. Also, I'm glad they changed Gold's look so he looks less like a fashion swap of Red. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 15, 2009, 05:54:52 am
By Gold you mean Silver right? ;D

Also, I have this feeling that the remakes just aren't going to be as good as the originals. I...don't know why either. It doesn't matter to me since I own silver, but still. There's just something... Or maybe I'm just weird.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: trancehime on June 15, 2009, 08:36:20 am
By Gold you mean Silver right? ;D

Also, I have this feeling that the remakes just aren't going to be as good as the originals. I...don't know why either. It doesn't matter to me since I own silver, but still. There's just something... Or maybe I'm just weird.

At least you aren't acting like the butthurt whiners over at bulbagarden
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 15, 2009, 11:31:51 am
By Gold you mean Silver right? ;D

Wat no, Silver's the rival, and Gold is the player character... (http://dustloop.com/forums/images/smilies/custom/psyduck.gif)

Also, I have this feeling that the remakes just aren't going to be as good as the originals. I...don't know why either. It doesn't matter to me since I own silver, but still. There's just something... Or maybe I'm just weird.

If FR/LG can outdo the originals, I don't see why HG/SS can't. (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/EtherEthan3/emot-eng101-1.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Kanako Yasaka on June 15, 2009, 05:23:22 pm
Wat no, Silver's the rival, and Gold is the player character... (http://dustloop.com/forums/images/smilies/custom/psyduck.gif)
No no no, you've got it all wrong. SILVER is the player character, and douche GOLD is the rival. :3

And I'm that weirdo who likes R/B better than FR/LG. >_>; They just have this...charm. It's hard to describe, but the simplicity makes them much more fun I think.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 16, 2009, 06:15:21 am
Nostalgia factor. There, I just described the "charm" for you in two words. :P

Also, pic related:
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc177/Nate_Dono/nyanko4-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 16, 2009, 08:27:56 am
Also, pic related:
nyanko4-4.jpg
Even if I don't like to get into arguments, and stay away from potentially heated arguments, I have to agree with this image. I meant, they took away everything that made Gold (Or Silver) different away and changed it with the typical anime stereotype-
No, even worse than that. This re-design makes the kid look even sillier than the other designs.
Also, Pokeball Holsters? FUCK. I had never seen them before.
YET ANOTHER FUCKING EDIT: New stuff!
http://pkmn.net/?action=main&page=viewnews&id=709
It includes the Kanto region being in the game, you get to pick ANY pokemon to follow you around, full using of the stylus, a new style for the pokedex and the regular Event-pokemon that unlocks a new area.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: RainfallYoshi on June 16, 2009, 02:49:14 pm
If these remakes are anywhere near the goodness that FR/LG was, then I'll have to look into it.

As for Pokemon being easy, well of course it is. It's meant to be a kids games. Touhoumon is infinitely harder, I can't tell you how long Brock smacked me around like I was a fly. You actually have to level your team and use strategy.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 16, 2009, 02:56:21 pm
Touhoumon is infinitely harder, I can't tell you how long Brock smacked me around like I was a fly. You actually have to level your team and use strategy.
I recall it being hard until you beat the Saffron Gym senseless.
Sure, it was hard to get around the type changes (Reisen is pretty much the only psychic type to be found before getting to the Sevii Islands) but when that's fixed (Or overlooked in my case) it's all smooth sailing.
...Until you get to the Elite Four MK II. Then it's all GRIND GRIND GRIND.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: RainfallYoshi on June 16, 2009, 03:13:39 pm
Koakuma is also a Psychic type and is found in Mt. Moon, but Reisen has better stats (I think...).

I haven't even gotten to Saffron yet... I think I took a wrong turn or something, I'm at Fuschia already. It's been so long since I've played, hahaha.

At any rate, I didn't expect the difficulty I got when I started. I'm still having some issues here and there, but it's mostly not so bad anymore.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 17, 2009, 06:14:13 pm
Here's hoping they fix everything that was wrong with Kanto in the originals with all the extra space they have.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: fluentLOVE on June 21, 2009, 06:02:58 am
hehehe this game should be great, I could never get into the original GSC generation for some reason. I loved RBY and all the others though.

and Chainsaw Guitar that picture is fucking golden
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Prody on June 21, 2009, 06:09:53 am
hehehe this game should be great, I could never get into the original GSC generation for some reason. I loved RBY and all the others though.

and Chainsaw Guitar that picture is fucking golden

Ahaha, was that meant to be a pun? If it is so, then I agree that both the pun and picture is nice!
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 21, 2009, 07:03:38 am
Ahaha, was that meant to be a pun?
Damn it, cannot unsee.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: fluentLOVE on June 21, 2009, 07:17:15 am
I didn't realize it would come out as a pun. damn, I'm good.

I'm pretty bored so I might start a new game on Platinum without using my starter pokemon.
Or I could try Touhoumon, I've had it on this computer for a while.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Drake on June 21, 2009, 06:28:43 pm
Do it. The people who work on Touhoumon know what people want. It's fine-tuned to incredible.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Emarrel on June 21, 2009, 11:55:57 pm
Nostalgia factor. There, I just described the "charm" for you in two words. :P

Also, pic related:
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Superior version:
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9919/1244676507770.jpg)

I loved GSC and all, but I'm not going to forgot that Gold and Silver were released 8 years ago, and I was 10 years old at the time - everything was awesome then.

I played silver again recently and realized it felt somewhat like a rushed sequel that didn't feel much like a new region at all.

What's the first thing I see when I step out of New Bark Town? Exactly the same ones I saw when I stepped out of Pallet Town. It doesn't promote the fact that it's a completely new place with new Pokemon quite enough. This is why I enjoyed RSE and DPPt so much; they really feel like you're in a new region, with new pokemon everywhere.

While Diamond and Pearl lacked variety, it at least promoted the fact that there were new Pokemon - more so in Platinum, which also had a bigger regional dex.

I'll probably look at HGSS with a different perspective than I did with GSC. After racking up about 350 combined hours in my Pearl and Platinum saves, HGSS will seem like a huge refresher instead of a slog.

This is a huge opportunity for Gamefreak to 'fix' Johto and Kanto as they appeared in GSC.  Hopefully they'll stop masturbating over notched ear Pichu and event Pokemon activated content soon and give us some more useful information.

I didn't realize it would come out as a pun. damn, I'm good.

I'm pretty bored so I might start a new game on Platinum without using my starter pokemon.
Or I could try Touhoumon, I've had it on this computer for a while.

I decided to ditch my starter and pick up a Shinx instead when I started Platinum. It's actually pretty fun starting with something different, and I'd suggest you try it out.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 24, 2009, 07:25:44 pm
I approve of the above message. 2nd gen will always remain the weakest of the series IMO.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Ghaleon on June 24, 2009, 07:46:37 pm
I never played a single pokemon game before... I've never even really seen any gameplay associated with it excluding the pokemon boss in I wanna be the fangame.

I dismissed it originally because I have a rule of thumb regarding games that is generally accurate.. don't punish yourself playing a game based on a movie or tv show. I know sometimes they are good, but generally it holds true.

Anyway maybe I should give it a shot eventually.

Can anybody describe to me though what exactly kind of game it is, what are the challenges in it. What makes it different than others of its genre.. And FFS, why do they always release 2 at the same time with different colors.. I know each one has "different pokemon you can have" but why don't they just have all the pokemon in one game? Marketing scheme so you buy double the games? Is the story and bosses and all that the exact same, you just get different guys? I don't understand exactly. Why doesn't anybody complain its' nothing but a cheap trick to make you spend double.. Or why DONT people get both when they like the series.. I've also heard people say how much they love the game "and I got pokemon blue"...  I think "well why not red if you like it so much".

heelp.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Schpwuette on June 24, 2009, 08:04:04 pm
I dismissed it originally because I have a rule of thumb regarding games that is generally accurate.. don't punish yourself playing a game based on a movie or tv show. I know sometimes they are good, but generally it holds true.

It's the other way round!
The games came first.

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Can anybody describe to me though what exactly kind of game it is, what are the challenges in it. What makes it different than others of its genre

It's an RPG. Challenges...? Hmm. Collecting all the pokemon I guess. Beating the last boss isn't difficult, as long as you fight all the fights that you come across, and don't spread your experience around too much.

What makes it different from other RPGs is that rather than having 3-8 heroes or whatever, you have one character, who fights using pokemon. You start with one. You get more by weakening wild ones (i.e. random encounters) and throwing pokeballs at them.

What gives it its appeal is the collecting aspect, combined with the standard RPG experience system - and the visible strengthening of your pokemon (they evolve!)

The 2 game system thing is to encourage trading. There are quite a few things in the games that encourage trading (for example pokemon that only evolve after being traded), that's just another example of one.

Buying both is a bit silly, because yes, other than the pokemon you get, there is very little difference.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on June 24, 2009, 09:40:52 pm
The 2 game system thing is to encourage trading. There are quite a few things in the games that encourage trading (for example pokemon that only evolve after being traded), that's just
And specially now that we have the Wi-Fi trading system on the DS games, the usual excuse of "I'm buying both because I don't know anybody that likes Pokemon" has been rendered useless. Of course, as long as you have a Wi-Fi signal nearby, but IMO that even easier than getting a DS at all.
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on June 25, 2009, 01:13:13 am
you just gotta catch'em all in one cartidge, buy them all to get the ones u can't catch'em all and then go to all freakin events for those that is freakin marketing ploy to truely catch'em all.

Pokemon~
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: fluentLOVE on June 25, 2009, 02:24:44 am
Just use Pokesav (http://projectpokemon.org/editing/pokesav/) if you want to get all the pokemon, or get a team with perfect IVs/EVs.

That's what I did in Pearl. I first played through the whole game normally (beating the Elite 4).
Then, with Pokesav I just made my Shoddy Battle/Netbattle team which would normally be impossible to do, and also got all the pokemon that require you to go to events. I wouldn't want to hack in every single Pokemon, because that just removes a huge part of the replay value. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon Gold & Silver remakes confirmed!!
Post by: Chainsaw Guitar on June 30, 2009, 04:26:06 am
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/special/wallpaper.html
Release date set for September 12th.