I can't think of any games that give me a lot much trouble, so I'll go for one game that sticks out the most to me. As lame and overused as this will seem:I liked that game. I wanna be the fangame was well done at trying to capture the spirit of the original too. But it just..well... Wasn't as fun.
I Wanna Be the Guy.
Tales of Symphonia - THE AI GODDAMNIT
LEARN TO BLOCK AND STOP CASTING AT POINT BLANK RANGE
Etrian Odyssey.F O E
Oh, and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl was a total pain for a good while. She was a pretty major brick wall whenever I challenged the Elite 4 (since I did not want to have to grind for levels). Really, when a CPU opponent can take down *DIALGA* with ease using not-very-effective moves, you know it's tough.Ever try Touhoumon?
Oh, and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl was a total pain for a good while. She was a pretty major brick wall whenever I challenged the Elite 4 (since I did not want to have to grind for levels). Really, when a CPU opponent can take down *DIALGA* with ease using not-very-effective moves, you know it's tough.
What's that, you didn't buy a Wire? F O E!
Haven't saved for the last hour? F O E!
Oh look, the Medic's out of TP! F O E!
Goddamn level 70 cap! F O E!!
...yeah. EO is high on this list by any reckoning.
I Wanna Be the Guy.
Am I the only person to always reach the Elite Four while having the starter at least 10 levels above them and everyone else at sufficient levels to beat them with ease?I don't know about Fire Red. But in the original red the elite 4 only started with 'mons in there end 40s to 50s. In touhoumon however they're all arround 70. Big difference, I was kinda surprised because I usually manage to be on par with the elite 4 but when I reached it in touhoumon her cirno single handedly killed off my entire team.
Haven't tried Touhoumon because RPG+Computer=arrrgghhhh.
Am I the only person to always reach the Elite Four while having the starter at least 10 levels above them and everyone else at sufficient levels to beat them with ease?
Haven't tried Touhoumon because RPG+Computer=arrrgghhhh.
Here's what I remember:I usually finish Yellow in the high 40s or just let the legendary birds sweep everything.
I finished Yellow at Lv80~ (Noteworthy: My MVP was a Lv86 Nidoking)
I finished GSC at Lv75~
I finished RSE at Lv65~ (Emerald had the best AI)
I finished Pearl/Platinum at Lv78~ (Noteworthy: My highest leveled Pokemon at the time was 85)
Fire Red was defeated at Lv68~
Soul Silver is about to be beaten, I'm at the Lv75 mark
SPELUNKYThe (levels 9-12 spoiler)
SPELUNKY
SPELUNKY
MOTHERFUCKING SPIDERS
EO2 has a Lv99 cap, though.Yeah, but that involves REMAKING YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FROM LEVEL 30 A GRAND TOTAL OF TWENTY-NINE TIMES.
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This game was not playtested.
Etrian Odyssey.This, oh god so very much this.
Oh, and Cynthia in Pokemon Diamond/Pearl was a total pain for a good while. She was a pretty major brick wall whenever I challenged the Elite 4 (since I did not want to have to grind for levels). Really, when a CPU opponent can take down *DIALGA* with ease using not-very-effective moves, you know it's tough.That's because the fourth generation of Pokemon was terribly designed.
That's because the fourth generation of Pokemon was terribly designed.Dang, I need to get Colosseum then....but it's almost impossible to get around here.
The first member of the Elite Four opens with something ten levels higher than the strongest wild Pokemon you have access to.
Cynthia's Pokemon are ten levels higher than that and (mostly) not pushovers at equal levels.
Enjoy your grinding.
Pokemon Colosseum was the same way, incidentally. (Yes, I just admitted to playing it >.> )
The final battle sequence put you against four ordinary trainers, and then a team of special users five levels higher than all of them, and then a team of high tier+ five levels higher than them. Again, enjoy your grinding. And kill the Slowking before it Skill Swaps with Slaking.
Yeah, but that involves REMAKING YOUR ENTIRE TEAM FROM LEVEL 30 A GRAND TOTAL OF TWENTY-NINE TIMES.
The HELL with that.
How the hell do you train so much anyways? I get sick even from getting 1 level in the 40s from the wild pokemon.
It only took me like a month to do that... with a full guild of 30 people... :VAaaagh...that's, like...doing that six times over, plus including the part where you have to get each other team up to level 70 in the first place...
I'm the best grinder there ever was.
*Stares at Bananamatic avatar*
what's wrong with his avatar? I think he should use the biker-looking guy cosplaying as cirno one. That's priceless >=P.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvnRBywkUZ0
The first member of the Elite Four opens with something ten levels higher than the strongest wild Pokemon you have access to.Absolutely ZERO of the elite four gave me trouble, it was just Cynthia. And even then, taking out Cynthia required better strategy rather than flat-out grinding. It was a lot easier if you knew how much damage you could do too, so that you could take out her more annoying pokemon (such as Milotic) before she could get a chance to use a Full Restore on them (since you're allowed to switch when the computer does it makes it easy to end a round with a Roar of Time and bring out something else to avoid having to deal with the turn of cooldown).
Cynthia's Pokemon are ten levels higher than that and (mostly) not pushovers at equal levels.
Enjoy your grinding.
Where does Nintendo want us to train for the E4 anyways?Red was intended as a bonus battle; Blue's highest-level Pokemon was a Lv. 65 Arcanine IIRC. (Not bad considering Lance's last Dragonite was Lv. 50. I loved how there was virtually no grinding to do in the second gen.)
I wonder how Yellow was designed, the gym leaders make an insane level jump from 28 to 44-50 in 2 gyms and it only goes higher. Are the pokes "strong" as if they were wild or something?
Same for G/S/C. There are barely any training points in Kanto and the levels go from 44 to 81.
Sure, Red is manageable at high 40s, but still....
Absolutely ZERO of the elite four gave me trouble, it was just Cynthia.I'm surprised at this, unless you used a different approach than I did.
Not bad considering Lance's last Dragonite was Lv. 50.How does that even work, anyway? Dragonite evolves at Lv55, how is he able to violate the laws of nature so frequently?
How does that even work, anyway? Dragonite evolves at Lv55, how is he able to violate the laws of nature so frequently?He's freaking Lance. He, Chuck, and Rival got the only cool lines in that game.
The entire Fire Emblem series tends to be frustrating, since if a unit you like dies you have to restart the entire chapter if you want to keep them. Maybe I just suck, though.Now restart if anyone at all dies. Then play FE7, HHM. Chapter 23x. Hawkeye.
-Diddy Kong Racing: No. Just...No.I have to disagree; this game was pretty easy for the most part.
PoFV. Full stop. Not touching that again. Ever.PoFV is only frustrating if you expect to win.
-Zelda Oracle of Ages: MINIGAMES! Thank you, good bye.I'll grant this. Goron baseball with Biggoron's Sword was ludicrous.
-Mario Party (every single one of them): See Zelda Oracles (though I like MP4's minigames, and it's easy to own the computer...At least on Easy mode, I never ever ever played on Hard mode or heaven forbid Hyper mode or whatever)Unless you're playing a button-mashing or luck-based game, Mario Party's AI isn't that good.
Have you guys watched the speedruns on Speed Demos Archive? There's a reason they stick with a single 'mon, they get all of the EXP!Simply put, I don't want to do that.
@theshim: If you hit Kishuna with a Longbow or something in 23x, doesn't every enemy except the four reinforcements warp out? That sounds like the way to go tbh.Hah, if only! No, just Kishuna warps out (which removes the whole seal) and the four reinforcements in his room spawn. They're also magic-users instead of fighters, with mid-level tomes and a Recover staff instead of silver weapons.
Ever try Touhoumon?Ever tried Touhoumon Lunatic? Level 100 Touhoumon start appearing in the Koga/Sabrina gyms.
Lorelei opens with a level 69 EXCirno. With Sheer Cold.
Cho Ren Sha. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFMy friend told me that it's easier than PCB normal :V
Seriously, why do I keep torturing myself with all these hard-as-hell shmups. <_>
Dodonpachi is pretty frustrating too....I often get killed out of nowhere or some boss patterns are complete dick moves.
Add only 6 lives for the entire game.
I remember how I've complained about having "only" 6 extends for EoSD or the fact that you have only 5 lives for EoSD extra.
Now go play Mars Matrix and enjoy going thorough 6 above-Lunatic level stages with three lives and no instant-acting bombs.HAHAHA WHAT IS THIS
HAHAHA WHAT IS THIS
can you even focus?
Tap the direction pad lighter. There's your focus. :VHow this isn't the hardest shmup ever?
Oh yeah and you know how you have to be good at chaining in DDP to get to the second loop? In MM you have to be good at chaining just to get to full power. Goddamn cubes. :<
The gameplay is pretty hectic. Most of the shots don?t move very quickly, but there are so many of the colored, patterned bullets that it makes the Dreamcast slow down at times.MY ASS
Yes it was. The playtesters where fired upon pointing out the gazillion flaws. And no, I'm not joking about that.
Solar Striker, a shump for the Game Boy. Every stage past 3 (where it starts being forts rather than ships) is so goddamn annoying to beat, especially since you have no continues, barely any extra lives, and it's a literal goddamn hailstorm of bullets for a Western shump, since the hitbox is huge.SOLAR STRIKER
Oh, and on the talk about Lance on the previous page, one of his Dragonites (can't remember the version) has Barrier, a move that literally is unusable by any of its line, in any series.Not to be confused with the last trainer in Stadium 2's Poke Cup, which features a Dragonite with ExtremeSpeed (only obtainable in Pokemon Crystal, which wasn't even out at the time of Stadium 2's release). Or any of the three incarnations of Lt. Surge in the Gym Leader Castles, who all had Pikachus and Raichus that could Surf.
Or any of the three incarnations of Lt. Surge in the Gym Leader Castles, who all had Pikachus and Raichus that could Surf.
Back on topic, FFTactics is making me bang my head on the walls. I've never been good at strategy games, enough times having my Lord die in Fire Emblem or my base wrecked by a three-pronged assault in Red Alert 2 make that obvious, but who gave the idea out that random encounters should be scaled to the player's level?
It makes Futari Ultra look like Barbie Horse Adventures.
Can't you get one yourself in Yellow, though, through one of the N64 games? I remember a Surfing Pikachu minigame that required such.If you can get that Surfin' Pikachu, you're a better player than me.
Kid Icarus for the NES.
I mean, even ignoring the enemies, you still die from falling unless you're terribly good at platformers.
The dungeons levels in Kid Icarus were frustrating as hell, I hate the Eggplant Wizards with all my soul.
How this isn't the hardest shmup ever?
I've finished it after 40 continues or so, it was......ugh.
Hydlide II: Shine of Darkness. Imagine Hydlide I.
Now imagine it 5 times as worse.
Wizardry 6 on expert. Think of one of the hardest RPGs you have ever played.
Per encounter, multiply every enemy and boss by 2.
Pok?mon Pinball. Try to get Mew (to even appear).
Re: Hydlide II
Delete, play Super Hydlide. Superior to both Hydlide games in every aspect. Yes, I've finished the three games. I know how it is.
WellYou know the feeling where you need a four straight piece and the game gives you a box? Yeah. :VObviously touhou, heyTetris in not bad...FFFUCKING BLOCK I SAID TURRRRRN !
A game on my frustration list? Bowser's Inside Story, strangely.
I don't know how, but every time I retry the fight I'm stuck on (the second Bowser fight), I keep losing! Maybe I should just level up a bit...