Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Hakurei Shrine~ => Touhou Addict Recovery Center => Topic started by: swamp147 on May 10, 2009, 02:37:45 AM
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Does anyone run Touhou on Vista? I know people use XP, and I'm using 2000 and there aren't any problems. But I'm gonna be getting a laptop for college soon, and they pretty much all come with Vista. If I can't run Touhou on it, then I'll need to install XP on it. But if I can run Touhou, there's no need to change the OS. Yeah, what OS I use depends completely on whether it can run Touhou or not hahaha
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Touhou works fine on Vista, except for some lag in the later games. Just remember to run it in Administrator mode so you can save replays and data.
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yup yup totally agreed the laptop i'm on right now is vista and i had no problems whatsoever running my games. just like Gpop said stay in admin mode for whatever profile you make and all options are open with no restrictions. i never ran this as a non-admin so i dunno what'll happen if ya do ^_^ hehe.
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Also running Touhou on vista, my replays are saving even without admin mode (I forget to use it) and I haven't run into any lag spikes except recently with EoSD giving some brief and rare slight drops in fps.
If vista was causing it then I could always just use compatibility mode to make the game run on XP :)
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I run on Vista, and I don't notice any problems.
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I run on vista. No lag and no need for administrator rights for saving stuff unless you program directory is some stupid place.
XP is overrated, Vista is insta-raged without real reason.
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I run Touhou games on Vista, everything is work well without problem. You also don't need to set compatibility mode. PC-98 games also work well under T98-NEXT emulator.
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All Touhou games running fine on my new laptop w/ Vista without problems. I used to play them on XP on my old laptop.
There's a little noticeable lag when you pause in EoSD, PCB, or IN, but it's nothing major and you get used to it. I don't know if that's a Vista thing or not.
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From what I can tell, sometimes the games do strange things when you've actually installed them from a CD(at least, for me), if you don't run them as admin. If you just copy the game folder anywhere else that isn't Program Files, they work fine though.
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Compared to my girlfriend's PC with XP, no difference for me.
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Cool, thanks for all the replies everyone. So there shouldn't be any problem with Vista.
About the lag issue some people have - would this slight lag just be from an old video card or not enough RAM?
Another related question - what are the minimum specs needed to run touhou at 60fps? Just posting your specs and how smoothly touhou runs would be nice.
I'm using a really old windows 2k with a crappy old video card and 256mb ram, and eosd, pcb, and in run at 60fps for most of the game. It sometimes drops down to around 30 to 40 fps when there are too many bullets on the screen (like yuyuko's last word in IN).
The laptop I'm gonna be getting will definitely have better specs than this though, so I don't think I should be worried about lag.
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its because vista runs alot of useless things that greatly slows down the computer despite having high pc specs.
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3 gigs of ram, geforce 7050, 2.4ghz and there's still lag on parts of sa and ufo
no lag for me, but back when i had my 1.7ghz computer, it imploded everytime i beat orin's midstage spellcard in stage 4 with some severe lag
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You can turn shit off if you want. But people stop and say:
"Aw, I want it prettier and safer"
But when they actually DO make it prettier and safer people bitch about because it's heavier on their machine, DUH, of COURSE it is.
But Vista actually has very good resource management. Once you go into a OpenGL or DirectX application that takes control of the video card all those things get pushed into the background and the difference is actually very little (unless YOU installed a bunch of bad shit, then YOU'RE doing it wrong).
The only thing with Vista is that 2 gigs of Ram is THE MINIMUM, at least if you intend to run Aero (shiny desktop theme-thingy). But nowadays memory has become quite cheap so it shouldn't be an issue.
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I have my Touhou folder OUTSIDE of Program Files, so I don't have to run in Admin mode. Only lag problems are in SA, UFO and MoF.
Although I don't if it's my laptop, but I also noticed that I may have an input lag =/.
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in my computer i have no problems with vista, touhou. Even touhous 1-5 work in vista.
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My notebook spec is 3 Gigs RAM, 2.00 GHz CPU, with ATi HD3470 GPU. It runs SA and UFO at 60 FPS smoothly. Sometimes when the boss enters, the frame rate slightly dropped to around 57-58 FPS and it is still quite normal for me.
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My notebook spec is 3 Gigs RAM, 2.00 GHz CPU, with ATi HD3470 GPU. It runs SA and UFO at 60 FPS smoothly. Sometimes when the boss enters, the frame rate slightly dropped to around 57-58 FPS and it is still quite normal for me.
That's probably disc access while loading up the new music. You have a really good machine it would be VERY weird if you had lag with Touhou
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I've only even had some problems with EoSD. Everything else has worked mostly fine once all the extra bells and whistles were turned off.
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what are the minimum specs needed to run touhou at 60fps? Just posting your specs and how smoothly touhou runs would be nice.
My laptop can get constant 60 FPS with 1.8 GHz AMD turion, 1 GB ram and lousy Nvidia 6600M under 32-bit Vista. Then again I have turned off most of Vista's extra resource hogging features like indexing, group policity, defender, firewall etc.
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On all the games except EoSD (for some arcane reason I have no idea why) run fine at 60 FPS at 1 GB RAM (plus 4 GB swap file), 1.46 GHz processor, running two Firefox windows (with a combined total of 20 active tabs and four inactive tabs - don't ask), one VLC window (paused), one Word 2k3 window, iTunes (playing music), controller software, and all of the fun little stuff in the background simultaneously.
IIRC, Firefox is a huge resource hog, even more if there's a ton of tabs. So...
You'd do okay with >1GB of RAM (the computers at school run them reliably at around 512 MB), though I'm not sure on processor statistics.
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I hope you guys are right about all this. Otherwise you're gonna have one sad Donut on your hands. :( If EoSD slows down for me (the ONE game that never lags on anything ever), I will rage.
So you say Vista runs a ton of processes that slow down everything? And that you can turn them off? I hope so...
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Just male sure you have AT LEAST 2 gigs of RAM. Vista is really memory hungry
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I hope you guys are right about all this. Otherwise you're gonna have one sad Donut on your hands. :(
No, we're not.
8)
On-topic: the one game that Vista doesn't like on my computer is Concealed the Conclusion.
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Danmakufu in general tends to perform slowly on Vista for some reason...
Also, I've been running EoSD in 64-bit Vista with no problems. Of course, I'm not doing aything too bullet heavy, but I thought you could use the reassurance.
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I've never played a Touhou game on XP. (Mainly because I didn't know about Touhou back when I had an XP computer)
But yeah, it works on Vista.
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I'm not sure if vista is the problem here but...
My friend has got a new laptop with Vista Home Premium.
It runs all touhou games fine, but for some reason he can't press Shift, Z and X at the same time, so he can't bomb while focused shooting.
Anyone has an idea to get around this? It even affects the pc98 games, which kinda bothers me.
Also, if anyone knows if there is a way to run Concealed the Conclusion on Vista Home Premium, it would be great to know.
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I'm not sure if vista is the problem here but...
My friend has got a new laptop with Vista Home Premium.
It runs all touhou games fine, but for some reason he can't press Shift, Z and X at the same time, so he can't bomb while focused shooting.
Anyone has an idea to get around this? It even affects the pc98 games, which kinda bothers me.
More of a problem with the laptop than the OS. Your laptop just can't read more than 3 keys at the same time.
Luckily both my Toshiba laptops never had a problem with this.
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Playing it on Windows 7 over here. Works perfectly.
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Everything works fine on Vista for me, unless AVG starts a virus scan, but I can simply pause it anyway.
Also, it's much easier to set your computer on japanese (non?)Unicode for Vista than for XP.
If you don't have the WinXP CD, and of course you somehow never get it when you buy a computer, it's virtually impossible to install japanese. Didn't find anything after 5 hours, so I solved that problem by... you know...
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Okay it looks like I have major issues. On Vista 32bit, Touhou games seem to lag down to 30FPS sometimes. It's ridiculous, and just makes me stop playing.
Am I doing something wrong or is it the PC?
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Update your graphics driver.
Alternatively, use custom.exe to have the game only display 1/2 of the frames. But definitely update.
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Video card more than anything else, and for me I couldn't care less with user account controls etc so I just turn it off...
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Another related question - what are the minimum specs needed to run touhou at 60fps?
On a P3 1GHz, with 256MB of RAM and a Geforce 400MX, I get a constant 30 fps under Win2K, and ~40-45 frames using Wine in Xubuntu for PoFV (same machine).
My Core2 Duo machine with WinXP SP3 runs all the games at a constant 60fps (e6650, Geforce 8800GTS, 2GB RAM).
@Black-cat: It's probably the keyboard on your laptop. Some aren't designed to be able to recognize that many inputs simultaneously. My sister's is the same way. You might be able to find a key mapping program that might let you map multiple keys to one (kinda how Joy2Key works, but a keyboard version if it exists), but I can't see it not being messy.
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Does anyone run Touhou on Vista? I know people use XP, and I'm using 2000 and there aren't any problems. But I'm gonna be getting a laptop for college soon, and they pretty much all come with Vista. If I can't run Touhou on it, then I'll need to install XP on it. But if I can run Touhou, there's no need to change the OS. Yeah, what OS I use depends completely on whether it can run Touhou or not hahaha
I use vista. I have most games and they work. Just one is only mean't for Windows XP. I have it but it doesn't work. (th12) :-\
Good luck. ;)
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Haven't had any problems on my laptop yet... then again, my skills in the later touhou games are lacking. Therefore, I can't have problems with the later spellcards because I never reach them.. >.>
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While we're on the subject of computers and Touhou compatability, is it possible to play Touhou games on a iMac? I haven't tried to install the games yet, since I'm afraid what'll happen if they aren't compatible.
I tried searching up the solution on Touhou Wiki, but they didn't give a straight answer. They said if you donwload Crossover Chronium it would work, but they weren't sure, since they hadn't officialy tested it, and it could just as easily blow up in your face. When looking through forums and sites about the games, I couldn't understand a word of all technobabble flying around.
I still have an old windows computer though, Windows HP or something. He's an oldie though, and I think installing anything on it would make it sputter it's last breath. And even if it works, the computer is very slow and would probably lag tremendously. My iMac is far quicker and newer, but again, I don't know if it's compatible.
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It is probably safer to just run an emulator for the Mac.
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It is probably safer to just run an emulator for the Mac.
....I didn't even it was possible to use emulators on Apple computers... At least, those SNES or N64 emulators. What kind of emulator do I need? A PC emulator?
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More of a problem with the laptop than the OS. Your laptop just can't read more than 3 keys at the same time.
Luckily both my Toshiba laptops never had a problem with this.
Argh, my Acer laptop does this. Its bloody annoying if you need to deathbomb, or shoot and go two directional keys at once as it doesnt respond.
Also, 7 here. Later touhous Run alright if everything else is shut down. EVERYTHING!
(7 really has crap resource management compared to XP.. never tried vista)
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....I didn't even it was possible to use emulators on Apple computers... At least, those SNES or N64 emulators. What kind of emulator do I need? A PC emulator?
Boot Camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Camp_(software)) is the official Windows emulator developed by Apple. I think you need a XP or Vista install CD though.
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Argh, my Acer laptop does this. Its bloody annoying if you need to deathbomb, or shoot and go two directional keys at once as it doesnt respond.
Thinkpad has best keyboard among laptops, it can responds 5 keys simultaneously.
Boot Camp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_Camp_(software)) is the official Windows emulator developed by Apple. I think you need a XP or Vista install CD though.
I think Boot Camp is not an emulator but a dual boot utility. VMWare for Mac might be a good option, it provide good emulation.
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Yeah, Boot Camp is a boot loader/driver installer. If you don't mind restarting your computer a bit, it'll give you the best environment for Touhou. Virtualization software like VMware or Virtualbox are second alternatives, you won't need to reboot every time you play Touhou, but it won't be quite as fast. Just make sure you have 3d acceleration passthrough turned on.
Also, for rollover problems use an external keyboard or controller.
Anyway, shouldn't this thread've been in Tech Support?