Lag is gonna be a killer in a game like this.I doubt it, everything seem to be run on your own computer and the server only connect you with 2-3 other players while probably only collect the result afterward.
Patchouli the Wizardoh hey guess what I was going to name my wizard :V
Not the best for the anti-social, ostracised schmukmup player though.Late reply, but this isn't entirely true. Look on YouTube, you can find plenty of players soloing the majority of stages.
Archers seem fun but summoners seem distinctly "Reimu" like with summoning things to shoot for you. A "faux homing" if you will.I was thinking more along the lines of Yukari in IN.
Im an Asen Archer, character name is Doomsday93. and i think i just saw you VideoGameCrack (just noticed a Margatroid)What? For you as well?
even though the game just crashed on me. ah well
What? For you as well?yeah. it crashed on stage 3 for the Dry Valley stage
It crashed for me when I wanted togofly to the town.
Considering the fact that you can't dungeon or party with players of the opposite faction, I'm glad a lot of you guys ended up on the Asen side~That kinda sucks... Even Shin Megami Tensei Online made it perfectly okay to have Messians and Gaians team up in dungeon runs.
(I remember playing IMAGINE. I only really stopped for school... I wonder if any of my old contacts still play?)I'd honestly not get your hopes up... As much as I enjoy the game, the maker (CAVE... yes, THAT one) has been a real prick and only adds cash shop items for updates on the JP server, and with no real updates to give to the EN server Aeria is forced to work with relatively simple events since they apparently aren't allowed to edit the game themselves.
I am triangles the knight FOR THE ALLIANCE... I mean Asen because that's what MJP told me he was on.All swordsMEN are female. :V
Does everyone look the same forever? And there's chick and dude classes? LAME.
Also, has anybody gotten the sizes of the character's hitbox? I tend to be shamefully clipped far too much.
Also, fuck yes dBu.
Does everyone look the same forever? And there's chick and dude classes? LAME.
Having a party with swordswomen deflecting bullets for you is almost unfair, and a little bit boring, though.Doing the deflecting is plenty fun, however.
I'm kinda wondering how you level skills though. I've been adding to the usage of skills (Arrow Orb is up to 3 uses at a time now) but everything is still Level 1. Does it level if I put more JP into it now that the uses are maxed?
Also, is there any way to restore stamina that doesn't cost money? I don't have the ingredients to cook anything and I can't afford a whistle for music.
Odin>Loki.
Fact.
Edit to give this post value: I've found fishing to be a great way to restore stamina while working on both the fishing and cooking skills at once.I have no idea if they do anything more than give a title or let you use nicer bait, but it's still nice to say that you can get skill way up there so easily and do something useful for your stamina and purse.
Summoner: One sub-class requires lining up and aiming while the other 2 are sort of like an indirect homing Reimu, using summoned monsters or buffing a single summon to do the damage for them while dodging.I tried the summoner class, and it was like IN Yukari-Solo, Except neither Yukari nor Ran can shoot bullets. I kind of got fed up with it. In any case, I'm sticking to my Cat-faced Tengu.
"The things that my Roukan Blade, Forged by youkai, cannot cut are ... a lot actually."
I did wind up partying with a YoumuKompaku earlier today. She was nice.
The skill table is a pretty stinkin' cool system. Although the wording on how skills overlap confuses me, it leads me to believe that having multiple of a passive don't stack, which is sad but I can deal with it. My Snare passive is pretty nifty. It only has a 1% activation rate, but it still seems to happen a good bit often with my high attack speed. I remember at one point it made it look like a boss ate his own bullets. xD
I swear I can hear bits of "The Young Descendant of Tepes" in the "Ville" area stage theme.
Trying. Though I have fundamental issues with MMORPGs, this looks pretty cool. And has dBu. So I shall try it.
Anyone else think that Showdown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDYSV9sqnmw) is incredibly reminiscent of the 'chorus' of Infinite Being? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfXkRCTUnCY)That's it. I knew it was one song, but I didn't know which one. Thus, now I'm patiently waiting for a dBu version of Infinite Being.
Um, very quickly...what the hell do you do when you die? The level just kept going...and I didn't feel like sitting through 12 minutes of a boss shooting at nothing...When someone in my party died, I could hit F2 to bring them back for who knows what cost. If you're playing solo and you die... no idea, I'm still grinding the first dungeon so it's kinda hard to die there (even more when you get a
Question. How do you get coins?I got some by playing with a party, I think...I think they're the same thing as community points...?
I got some by playing with a party, I think...I think they're the same thing as community points...?
Also, what was weird is it was me and a party member, we both lost, and then the level kept going up to the boss, and I had to forcequit the game to get out of it.
exp from stages is mostly influenced by grade I think; so if you can kill 95%+ enemies and 1cc you should be fine I guess.
But you also gain cp in groups that levels your cl so you can make guilds and stuff.
On higher level stages though, playing in a group can be deadly for you; like certain bosses throwing "hakurei homing rings" that would suddenly retarget itself (or even split!) and hit someone else who wasn't expecting it.
edit: enemy hp also gets scaled with more people in the party; so if your party sucks, you might just have to solo the quadruple hp boss.
Worse thing I've seen so far... 495 QED x5 at double speed from a mid boss :'( you just can't dodge that...
Right now, don't even think about PvP unless you're a summoner; because they can stunlock and kill you in seconds with no chance of retaliation. Even with a level difference greater than +15
I'm getting confused. I'm running around with tons of leather, copper, mythril and so on, but I don't seem to have anywhere to actually USE them. What am I meant to do?The smith, in the starting town over to the right. You can compound items with them (though you need to buy other stuff as well to do it).
The smith, in the starting town over to the right. You can compound items with them (though you need to buy other stuff as well to do it).I expected that, but when I asked him he asked for a whole ton of strange materials I didn't have. There was stuff I could extract from weapons/armour, but no actual metals/materials that I'd collected...T_T
You can compound items with them (though you need to buy other stuff as well to do it).Which can be bought from the shop over to the left.
[Bran] group has occupied Crystal of Dusk. (Occupier: Zakeri)
feeling pro there aren't you >:x
I killed a level 42 Swordsman today.
How about you?
yevgenHey, I think I grouped with you for a bit earlier today...I was playing my Magician, Sirric.
this happened to me twice.
i ran out of lives (*commits seppuku for disgracing the toho community*) and picked yes, continue. i didn't respawn, and the boss just keeps flying around forever and i can't leave the game if i don't ctrlaltdel end process.
another time i picked no, i'll stop here and the same thing happened.
Omg there is brofist; er. or something like it
I've been brofisted :V
Server seems to be dead.
Again. :|
I was supposed to finish my repeatable!
I've been following some gay guy all around today, talking about how bowmen have the lowest damage per second in the whole game and how bowmen can't solo because we have to dodge all of the attacks, and I still have at least one quest per area from level 23-28 right now. The server -can't- be down, because all the monsters I have to kill in Annex are in stage 4 and 5 and we just beat stage 3 losing a total of five lives between us :V
(Also, he's not really gay, but everyone in the fishing hole says he is as a joke.)
You are to be Brofisted again, following the handing-to-me-for-free of a Unique Item that I was hunting for. I only need the Arms and legs now. :dance:
Also the person whining to you is stupid.That's what I keep telling him.
Stair Bridge sucks for me. Shine is also bad, since in that stage, the whiny guy and I both had to huddle in the middle of the screen together because no where else was it safe enough for use to be. Thankfully, I always keep my Chaser shot.
Also whoever was whining about Archers obviously doesn't know anything about anything. I finish bosses pretty quickly most of the time and high enemy spawn is usually solved by a few Arrow Orbs.
Just used another email.
IGN: OrangeCrush (Tamer)
-ASEN
Slowly learning the stuff... What do you guys think? Is it better to specialize in one stat and skill, or is it better to spread things out a bit?
Depends. Also you're OrangeCrush? Didn't know that xdYeah, I was mostly playing with my friend (who's named RegitNori) since I convinced him to get the game so that we could play together.
Some classes are better off maxing a certain skill right off v. quickly (Spirit Sword for Knights, etc.) but others may need to spread. Stats are of your choosing. Usually your primary stat is your damage stat. For Summoners:I was going to go largely charm with a bit of luck for various reasons. I guess I had the right idea, then.
CHR > LUK = INT > DEX > STR
They should Nerf Swordsmen so that they don't solo as often and join parties with us.
Is Arrow Orb really that good? What if it only hits two monsters?
I'm kind of scared of trying Archer. All of their attacks look weak
The only skill I think that doesn't suck in PvP is Arbalest, because you can aim it. Maybe Dragon/Pheonix Shot as well, but i dunno.
I'd say Chasing Shot, since Chasing/Rapid makes for a very nice back up if you run out of Arrow Orbs. Plus, Chasing allows you to focus on dodging Boss attacks.
Also, can anyone tell me if maxing out all of the skills on the skill table unlocks anything special? I'm still two and a sixteenth levels away from being able to, so I'm curious.
Swordsmen [sic] actually have it easy for PvE since they deflect bullets, you don't NEED to be point blank range, and you'll be using your skills to kill enemies rather than your normal attack, since that's for deflect bullets (Defender unique passive: Brandish) and you only use normal attack to proc Blade Flash (Knight unique passive). Spirit Sword, Thrust, Leap Smash, Throw Sword and the like are all good for swordsmen [sic] DPS.He has to be point-blank range to deal damage because he doesn't have the skill to deflect bullets back at the enemy and he only does decent damage when hitting with his sword directly (and his special skills are only stuff like spins and rushes, all of which require him to charge straight into the enemy's face).
Also I love the space bar attack -> MASTER SPARK!!!!I hate mine... Summoner spacebar/bomb attack looks like it'd be like Reimu/Aya's SA bomb, except it doesn't do shit to anything. All it does is make me invincible for a few seconds, unlike my friend's, which actually clears stuff.
I hate mine... Summoner spacebar/bomb attack looks like it'd be like Reimu/Aya's SA bomb, except it doesn't do shit to anything. All it does is make me invincible for a few seconds, unlike my friend's, which actually clears stuff.
I actually wanted to be a fighter or w/e it's called, but they can deflect bullets, and that's obviously easy modo.Tell that to my friend, who keeps getting himself killed and forcing me to solo the bosses. =p
He has to be point-blank range to deal damage because he doesn't have the skill to deflect bullets back at the enemy and he only does decent damage when hitting with his sword directly (and his special skills are only stuff like spins and rushes, all of which require him to charge straight into the enemy's face).
I hate mine... Summoner spacebar/bomb attack looks like it'd be like Reimu/Aya's SA bomb, except it doesn't do shit to anything. All it does is make me invincible for a few seconds, unlike my friend's, which actually clears stuff.
Bowman bomb clears on activation only I think, or it doesn't at all.
By the way, how do I know when and how many times I can use the X-boost?
Arbalest is good in that with a level 5 charge, it places 5 launchers on the screen at once. Great for clearing out mobs easily, but I don't know how effective it would be for bosses since you can't really choose where to place the launchers and they all end up firing in different directions.
Some of the Swordsman's skills has temporary invincibility; so using them isn't a problem. In fact, that's what they spam in PvP essentially ; leap smash, leap smash, leap smash, leap smash. so.. yea...
Also, wtf @ Annex Palace bosses?
it was awesome, everyone crashed at once. :V
The only people who NEVER MISSES are Summoners anyway. :V :V :V
"What's that? You got away from my pet? Here, have some wasps that will follow you all the way across the map and slow you down enough so that I can stunlock you."
Do I actually have to do the stages?
[...]you move so slow that you can't really avoid it if you don't know it's coming[...]Don't you slow down if your inventory weight is above the halfway mark or something? I recall reading that holding too much would slow you down (so I do my best to take advantage of your "stash"/bank).
(I did it at 7 but level ups don't really seem to increase your power that much imo).You have to distribute your stats manually. 5 into your primary stat increases your main damage, so that's probably going to be a top priority.
Is there a certain point in the game where general consensus says you absolutely cannot solo something? If so what. And why do people ask me to group up with them in the first 2 zones? For god's sakes most of the enemies don't even fire bullets in there!Probably to help make a quest go faster, or just because slaughtering things in groups is fun. I can personally attest to the latter.
One little thing I've noticed is that I generally get 3-6 items per stage in the newbie zones. And in higher level zones (for me).. I get like 1. I thought higher level zones were supposed to give MORE loot, am I the only one experiencing this? Also, I got like 10 pieces of mithril already, which is supposedly hard to get, along with multiple pieces of yew, maple, and some other wood. But only 1 lonely piece of spruce, which is supposedly the common low-grade crap. Anybody else experience this as well?Yeah, I couldn't get any copper for the longest time, but I got a good amount of iron, which is supposedly a lot rarer. I think it depends on your luck (meaning stat, but I'm sure personal matters, too).
As for cooking...Am I missing something? I buy salt or peppers or whatever, and I pick what I want to make, and I sit there watching a bar move 20 times or so for the next 5 mins. I don't see how ANYBODY can think that's fun >=P, unless I'm missing something, you sir(ette?) are a weirdo!I think I'm too used to playing games where that use the exact same fishing minigame and I'm glad I can just get my HP-restoring items while I do something else and not have to focus on getting the proper combinations/timing. Plus it doesn't even require me to select the same item to cook it again, it just keeps going until I ask it to stop (which is nice, because usually I want to make as much of that item as I possibly can so I can get my stamina back up ASAP).
Yeah, I read that too about inv, I think your speed depends on class though as well. I notice warriors for example seem to be fast, as well as magicians. My archer seems to crawl, even with my bags empty.
As for stats, I have been doing that, mostly dex. But pouring every single point into dex during a level up only increases my damage by 1 I think. I do n't think my damage output is low though, the few times I group up I seem to kill the beefy creatures faster than the other guy does..and my points zomgwtfpwn the other guys in the dust once we reach the boss (generally I'm way behind before the boss, unless I'm with a warrior). I'm just saying at "black cloud", it seems that enemy spawn rates are starting to outpace how much I can kill em. Some of the weaker trash take 2 hits to kill too.
If you still need help with Strange Request. I failed this one two times yesterday, but I did it after that. What you do is pick up the quest, teleport to one of the places, do stage 1 (it's the shortest), teleport to the other place and do that stage. You have now 'searched' those places and you can teleport back to the main city, I had like 3 minutes left :)
Sounds like you have a weapon or gear issue. How good is your weapon? Do you enchant your equipment?
Yeah, I read that too about inv, I think your speed depends on class though as well. I notice warriors for example seem to be fast, as well as magicians. My archer seems to crawl, even with my bags empty.
Bowmen seem recharge the X-gauge a lot faster, though. Point for bowmen here if that's correct.
I just finished maxing out Arbalest last night, and I'm going to switch to Ranger to get Phoenix and Dragon shot. The only reason I'm even bothering with this is because I want to get the title that has you 1ccing a boss stage with only skills, and I don't know how far just Arba and Orb will get me.
What's the X-gauge? ???
Arbalest will get you as far as the size of the boss's hit box. :V
I hear Phoenix is *the skill* to get for damage; not sure myself, since I already ran out of JP.
Just pointing out that anyone wanting to test something better do it quick since the current "closed" beta ends november 3rd and who knows when it'll be available again. :V
Not sure what all these things with fancy names are though.I'm sorry, I understood what you were saying. Could you please be a little more vauge :V
don't people read the notices? It's been stated to be Nov. 10th for half a week now.
I'm sorry, I understood what you were saying. Could you please be a little more vauge :V
Also, I noticed that no one in this topic ever talks about Swordman, or Mage skills, and only a few times have summoner skills been mentioned. Why is that?
don't people read the notices? It's been stated to be Nov. 10th for half a week now.
Also, I noticed that no one in this topic ever talks about Swordman, or Mage skills, and only a few times have summoner skills been mentioned. Why is that?
Because real menin frilly dresses and fancy hatsplay Bowmen?
Too bad no one gets Frilly Dresses or fancy hats in Valkyrie Sky.
I guess people really do go with what they're familiar with. Bowman is the typical vertical scrolling shot type there is. Summoner get's second mention because of Reimu's homing bullets. Mage style is, I think more related to the Tornado shooter sequence in the sonic games, and I don't know how to relate Swordsman's style, so yeah.
Can I say it in red for clarity ? :V
November 3rd is the deadline for that "Elite Frontier" title event for the top 10 of each class
November 2nd is the deadline for the survey event they're running
November 10th is when CBT actually ends
I have no idea how Zakeri got another one of those rare bows again
its in red right ? :V
the lv 20 things was from before the game changed hands.
You should still get First Frontier though.
finally reached 50; no more grinding for me ;D
There's a partial list on the forums of current drops. I didn't find too many myself. with 20 luck :V
I have no idea how Zakeri got another one of those rare bows again
...
Either way, Gratz on fifty.
I don't think the first first CBT counts since it changed hands.
This would basically be the "first CBT" in a relative sense.
There's a partial list on the forums of current drops. I didn't find too many myself. with 20 luck :V
I don't really know, but I assume on the world map that Bran people have black wings and Asen people have white wings. I think you can only run stages with people of your own faction, and that should be the case, though Rabbit tells me that he got ganked by a Bran while on the world map.
another question: As a mage can I blindly spam my points into intelligence? or is it wise to get some luck/strength or something aswell?
For Mage:doesn't really help, I want to know if I have to spend all my points on INT when I level up or spend some on different stats
INT > CHR = DEX > LUK > STR
Something like that
The drops seem to have changed since GameNGame, is what I meant :/
I mean, does Hoedur's Wing Coat still drop in Dark Wood 3, for instance? I spent 4 hours farming it to no avail, with 107 Luck
doesn't really help, I want to know if I have to spend all my points on INT when I level up or spend some on different statsIt takes 5 points to add 1 permanent point to your steady damage and you get 5 per level early on, so unless/until you start getting more than 5 in later levels I'd say you should dump them all into your main attack stat.
Apparently in the first beta there was a "Lunatic" title for a lvl20+ stage pacifist clear
Apparently there isn't anymore :(
Apparently the guy who found out is probably very frusterated >=P
Summoner Skills Suck. Tamer is where it's at.
So far, I've maxed out Illusion Cannon. It's worthless until level 4-5 where is actually has range. I'm also working on Arcane Sword, it's at level 3 now. I sort of wish it would spin and block for a longer time. I actually prefer the Random Chance of the Bowman's Snare to the Astral Sword, since if Snare doesn't work, I'll at least know that in time to dodge the bullets :V
no Malice cannon then ? :V
Cripple Barrier is fun, its like a bomb. without the damage. Time stop like Sakuya
edit: does cripple barrier work on bullets fired after activation?
Also, am I becoming paranoid or bosses hit you with a lot of non-bullet stuff when you're right in their faces? Claw swipes, tailslaps, the like. At the very least bosses have the weirdest hitboxes.
Oh and lol me pumping CHA for that lvl20 artifact sword.
Cripple Barrier is horrible unless you for some reason want to spend 60 JP maxing it out.
I don't know why none of you swear by Throw Sword, it's easily one of the best crowd clearing Swordman skills there is. It's a good contender for DPS next to Penta Slash, Spirit Swords and can cancel bullets, which make it good for evading stuff like when using Leap Smash and Mangling. Only disadvantage Throw Sword has is you can't attack while you use it (for obvious reasons) but you should have decent timing to know when to use it. Sadly I still have a bunch of retarded deaths as a result.
Most of the bosses use their appendages/weapons to attack you WHILE shooting you at the same time so they do it regardless of whether or not you're right in their face. The first annoying instance of this is Stair Bridge (yeah lots of annoying firsts in Bifrost, I fucking hate that area) Stage 3's midboss, who throws his staff at you while doing stereotypical circle bullet spread. If you get hit by the staff's wonky hitboss, you will be dead for sure.
Regin's Destiny is a waste of 70 CHR, which I'm definitely sure is a typo or bug. :/
Can some one guide me on changing your job? I am a level 13 mage now, and I absolutely love all 4 of my skills. What are the pros and cons about changing your job and how does it work?
But I wanna be a mage :S won't changing job prevent me from leveling my old skills? Also the ingame text (which seems to be translated very, very poorly) states that passive skills don't stack (I think) but in my experience they definetly stack. Cause I have a x% chance per hit to create that damage barrier (X being level of passive skill). That would currently give me a 3% chance, but it feels more like 3+3+3+2=11% (as if it does stack).
But anyway, it is still possible to play 'mage' using it's 4 skills while being a wizard just to get passive skills?
But I wanna be a mage :S won't changing job prevent me from leveling my old skills? Also the ingame text (which seems to be translated very, very poorly) states that passive skills don't stack (I think) but in my experience they definitely stack. Cause I have a x% chance per hit to create that damage barrier (X being level of passive skill). That would currently give me a 3% chance, but it feels more like 3+3+3+2=11% (as if it does stack).
But anyway, it is still possible to play 'mage' using it's 4 skills while being a wizard just to get passive skills?
I'm currently using a summoner tamer. Once I max out crow and puma I was thinking of changing class, so anyone have recommendations for my last two skills?
I'm trying to go for stuff that can hit areas or multiple enemies (like lasers, exploding shots, etc.) since my main minion can handle individual enemies just fine.
I personally don't know what it takes to unlock the middle skill thing >=(
For the sake of damage it might be a waste. But everyone goes for the dps builds :P
It has its use in groups mostly, like when your party becomes stupid in abysmal labyrinth.
And I already have throw sword, for your information :V Some people aren't taking it probably because they can't spam it in pvp.
Did you get to Heavenly Cloud yet ? the mid boss has detachable FIST SMASH; or the boss of Forgotten Ville(?) throws his scythe in a circular arc at you, not quite Elly but eh. And you guys keep talking about Stair Bridge.
every class seems to have at least one items with weird requirements, might be intentional. Since bowman had a mistletoe bow that had a 55 Luck requirement. No one would use it though :V
I spent like 10k soul stone and still no key so I have absolutely no reason to care about Abysmal Labyrinth right now, yeah sure the seal weapons are great but if I can't even go inside the fucking place what is the goddamn point.
Just did Stair Bridge for the first time. Needed 2 tries on stage 3. Had 3 clipdeaths on his staff throw :V
stupid dragon that flies from the bottom middle of the screen...and not under or over you, but no.. just wtfpwns you as it spawns. aghaghag.
Korean MMOs without the hilarious Engrish translations wouldn't be the same. =VThe war is begin!
I fought the Cockatrice, and got killed when it decided to fly INTO me. T_THow'd you manage that?
"To restore your life, press the Recover batoon in the character menu."
If you check the AH, you'll see people selling the 58 level ones for a few million.
That's because "button" is bleeped out by the word filter. True story.ha ha, you said "butt" :V
And nobody buying, I'm trying to sell a gold key for ~250k for almost a week now.
Don't forget to keep in mind what the level cap is. :V
Trying to sell a Key that no one can use or keep until they can use it will net you much, much less gran than trying to sell a Scroll of Evolution.
2. That's exactly how you get it. And you get soul stones by having taken over crystals (you should be getting soul stones now if you're logged in.) Basically, you don't have to worry about gathering it. Just be online whenever CANAAN, FOX, or White are online (effing Asen.)
yeah well Bran has fucking ShilLaRen so you don't complain T___T
I see your pathetic attampt at having us to sympathize with a group of people that are forcing us to pay 1.5 times the normal teleportation fee, and raise you another name that greatly annoys us: burning.
Seriously, you guys have 24 hour service over there. You're not allowed to complain back.
ha ha, you said "butt" :VReminds me at Latale. There I couldn't say clASS.
They also block the word ****aPizza :)
If you can guess what word I just said, I've give you a slice of this Cheese ****a I bought at Dominoes.
Pizza :)
Also does anyone know why I can't catch fish? I bought the 2nd rod (the 10k gran one) and used the 1st type of bait and I could catch fish just fine with 100% chance, then I reached 35 fishing expertise and I bought the 2nd rank bait and now when I fish he reels it in but there is no fish on the hook ??? Isn't better bait supposed to give me a better chance :(
In fact, now that I think about it, one of the better things about PvP is that it doesn't really even require fighting another person to win it. Since getting Crystals is basically "King of the Hill" Mode, you can actually go out when no one from the other side is active and grab all of the crystals yourself without any problems.
This is really why I was derping about you and a bunch of other people being so adamantly against PvP.
PvP in this game is very much imbalanced but most of the time you're capturing UNCONTESTED crystals!
brb running abysmal labyrinth</wrists>
What was your name in game again hime? I forgot to add you to my friends list. I'm 29 (yeah I'm sick so I had nothing to do but play this game all day for the last couple of days >=P), so we should hook up for some labyrinth action sometime.
you may find me as Aestylia.
Job changing is strictly fixed based on LEVEL and an arbitrary number.
The base cost is 7000, and it rises up based on your current level.
there was a huge problem with the 16-18 area though, that part was a BISH to get past. I honestly found 20-30 took less effort than 16-18.What? I am level 17 now and since I got my first daily quests on level 16 it has been easier than before? And I just unlocked the 2nd place of Green wood (deep/dark wood?) and I haven't even been there yet. So I don't see how 16-18 is different from the levels before, if something it is actually easier because you get quests and appropriate exp for 3 places.
Rarely were you needed to fully clear all 5 stages of a zone more than 3 times.
What? I am level 17 now and since I got my first daily quests on level 16 it has been easier than before? And I just unlocked the 2nd place of Green wood (deep/dark wood?) and I haven't even been there yet. So I don't see how 16-18 is different from the levels before, if something it is actually easier because you get quests and appropriate exp for 3 places.
Also, has anybody else noticed that the quality of balance in this game nosedives past the ancient abyss stage? Here are some thing I've noticed:
BEFORE ancient abyss:
Bosses/stages are relatively steady in terms of difficulty increase.
quests are mostly balanced in terms of helping you level steadily.. there was a huge problem with the 16-18 area though, that part was a BISH to get past. I honestly found 20-30 took less effort than 16-18.
Rarely were you needed to fully clear all 5 stages of a zone more than 3 times.
AFTER ancient abyss:
Bosses suddenly became a joke. I mean I can time them out without breaking a sweat...which I could do for most before that too, but the later portions of the sub-abyss levels were definately getting difficult.
quests often involved getting multiple drops from some mob that doesn't even spawn until the final stage of a zone, which would drop so infrequently that I'd often clear the entire stage and not get 1, and because it's the final stage in the zone, you have to reclear the whole damn zone to unlock the final stage again.
Inbalance of item quality. Sometimes I see items that require level 30-something, that are supposedly rare quality. with bad stats like "strength + 2, charm + 2, maximium weight +4". When I had better low-quality magic items at level 20 with something like "int(or whatever stat) + 10".
What? I am level 17 now and since I got my first daily quests on level 16 it has been easier than before? And I just unlocked the 2nd place of Green wood (deep/dark wood?) and I haven't even been there yet. So I don't see how 16-18 is different from the levels before, if something it is actually easier because you get quests and appropriate exp for 3 places.
Actually, cases of quest items rarely dropping exist even before Ancient Abyss, the big one being the Mad Hell Flanit Eye's quest, where many players believe said quest is bugged since those things drop very rarely. Ancient Abyss itself has a similar quest - the Crocodile killing quest, where you must kill 20 Crocodiles and get 8 Crocodile's Mighty Fangs. This wouldn't be a problem except Crocs only spawn on Stage 5, requiring 5 to 6 runs of the damn thing. Ancient Abyss also gets repetitive fast, given Leadrin is a sneaky bitch who takes ages to beat despite being easy as hell.
Ghaleon, you're a bowman.
I'm using a freaking swordsman :V Leadrin's patterns are easy shit for everyone but when your only form of consistent damage are freaking Leap Smash and Throw Sword (which of the two I only have the latter), there is something very wrong here.
Plus, I don't have any unique weapons, my weapons are shit. I haven't gotten Hoedur's Wing Coat despite farming Zheldo for FUCKING EVER, and I haven't gotten Cerha's Master of Deep Sea even when teaming up with a 400 LUK guildie =___=
I just want a good weapon before CBT ends ;_:
I'm going to see if-- Oh wait the person with the higher level key isn't online right now. =___=
I want a decent weapon ._.;
any good unique weapons drop from stages 18-30 for you? my guy has high luck, and I'm kinda bored as-is.. plus my own unique weapon is better than the level 30 and 40 layrinth reward ones >=P.. I rekon the level 20ish one is that op for the other classes too...unless it demands goofy stats for you that you don't have as well (like mistletoe does for luck for me).
That Lv20 unique Swordsman requires 70 fucking Charm plus Regin's Destiny sucks balls for its requirements
People told me the same thing regarding luck and mistletoe longbow..
but the amount of dps I lost for not having 35 extra dex wasn't even close to being equal to the holy shit my damage just doubled to having a bow with better stats than a level 40 high unique from 2500 laybrinth tokens >=P... of course I don't know if your level 20 unique with weird requirements is as op.
I guess I should ask... Does elemental damage make any real difference at all? I figured enemies might have a weakness to exploit and stuff, but lately I've been just spamming Puma all over the place and it seems to kill the cannon fodder with relative ease no matter what.
it gives you an item with a higher level requirement for additional stones.What do you mean with this?
I think I've finally achieved something in this game that will make me hate the Wipe side by side the whiny idiots who quit a week ago.
Leveling is fast up to Lv28, but after that it becomes a repetitive grind that is painful as everloving fuck.Welcome to the wide world of MMOs.
leveling is fast up to Lv28, but after that it becomes a repetitive grind that is painful as everloving fuck.
Welcome to the wide world of MMOs.
That sums it up pretty nicely.
Should I sacrifice 400 till im level 30 and then switch to 500?
And start using my 28 keys once I'm 28? or will I get slaughtered then?
Well doesn't matter now since the chars have been deleted.
And I'm all but lucky, I only get bowman drops (I was a mage) and some summoner drops. Swordsman loot seems rarer and mage loot doesn't exist. Same goes for the Auction house, it is flooded with bowman green items when there is like none or maybe 1 overpriced mage item... >.<
Its not that they drop rarely... ; its more like there's like only a hand full of bowman to buy those things. Everytime I got a rare non-bowman drop someone already wants it from me :V :V So high the demand was for Swordsman items I sold them for stupid prices like 1.5 ~ 3 million each. And they sold in minutes.
I only ever had one green bowman drop; The Speed Bow, and that was after grinding on a stage for a day. Everything else I bought with the money sold on mage,summon,swordman drops.
Does anyone know if 'skill critical hit' also effects a fighter's skill or is it for magic only? Would seem obvious to me that it'd be normal critical hit but it says physical aswell when you hover over skill critical.
I made a fighter named Karst btw.
But not sure if I will continue with it, it seems a lot more dull than the mage I had during beta.
Also, why didn't I get the 'participate in the beta' titles? :(
level 10 and the pet vendor still wont sell pets or give the quest for a free one. Yet I see people who are levels as low as 4 with pets. Anybody know what unlocks the pet vendor into actually dealing business with you?
Nuage - Lv6 Mage
Considering getting a Wizard some other time.
I happened to find Patchouli and got into the Shrinemaiden guild really quickly, but it was embarassing to see myself at the bottom of the list.
I'm curious though, how do swordsmen not get owned by bosses who chuck their weapon? Do they use leap smash and become invincible at that moment?Getting hit by the boss' weapon counts as being hit by an enemy body, in which case the Swordy will either be pushed back or, if they have the fighter's passive, counterattack. The latter is much more useful since you're invincible while counterattacking, but there's still a slight window for a bullet to hit you before the animation begins.
Getting hit by the boss' weapon counts as being hit by an enemy body, in which case the Swordy will either be pushed back or, if they have the fighter's passive, counterattack. The former is much more useful since you're invincible while counterattacking, but there's still a slight window for a bullet to hit you before the animation begins.
But if the Swordy is being hit by the boss' weapon then they are doing something wrong. The only example I can think of at the moment is Bifrost, Stair Bridge, Stage 3. There's a good delay between his attacks and a prudent Swordy will dash every time he swings his staff.
Downloading game again now. Will likely be a summoner again.
About weapon durability... Is there a cap to how low it can go, or can it eventually be lost?
On that subject, whats the point of weapon durability in an MMO? They all seem to have it, but all it does is amount to an (extremely) minor money sink every few dungeons.
KrackoCloud: Yeah, all the time.
I'm downloading again, but is the level cap really 20? Why?
So, how does one get into a guild again? If I need to be invited, someone from the MoTK guild please invite me. My character is Darkslime(original!).
:p
O hai, didn't notice this was back up yet. Damn, that was short notice. Re-downloading now. *hopes Nazrin isn't taken yet*
YES~!
Name is OrangeCrush just like before.
Will join the clan when someone is on at the same time I am. Will also try to get more people into the game, but don't expect too many of my friends to be joining up.
EDIT: Not to sound dumb, but how do you tell how much durability equipment has left? I highlight it, but all it tells me is the damage it can do, stat boosts, and etc.
Why is it a significant portion of pretty much every mmo's community are closed-minded douchebags on the said mmo's forums? gah.There's always fanforums outside the official ones, which usually involve all versions of the game.
Any complexity in this game seems to depend solely on your choices in skills.Yeah, there seems to be a pretty huge gap between the good skills and useless skills, with relatively little "meh" skills...
Deletedmy old archer and swordyall of my old characters cause I messed up the skills.
New ones:
Konngara - Knight
Vajra - Hunter
Slow - Conjurer
Any complexity in this game seems to depend solely on your choices in skills.
Finally in the guild after trying to whisper people for a few days now.
I guess I play at some really obscure hours... D=
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ghaleon stop lying bifrost is painful
I think the number of mobs that appear increases drastically the more party members there are.
At least, if I remember correctly because it definitely happened the first time I played the game. It was piss easy when I soloed but as soon as a four-man group tackled any stage suddenly it was a giant clustermunt.
Monster spawn rates do increase with party members, along with monster hp and such.
the game basically doubles in difficulty for every party member. 2 people is 2x, three people is 4x, and four people is 8x :v
Okay, so I'm trying out a Hunter, Wolke.
Since I skipped the tutorial (whoops), I'm wondering - The Ultimate Power... All it does it hit hard, right? No special properties? Just making sure.
Also, how in the world does the skill Pain Shot work? I'm really confused. There should be some poison cloud or something, right?
Well, I got a good number of replies.
Maybe I should've mentioned that I was only referring to the Bowman Ultimate Power. Oops.
Any help yet on how Pain Shot works?
Hi everybody!
Fantastic Party Member is awesome, isn't it? ;)
Too many games to have to choose between... le sigh.
I notice there's a secret cooking title... Any idea how to get it? I wish to be an awesome chef.
That's [Terrible Cook]. Fail cooking 5 times in a row.Right up my alley, then (or at least the effect is). I should get it easily by trying recipes that are far too difficult for my level.
+10 Luck
+1% Cooking Success Chance
I'd try to passive run for it but valhalla is IMO one of the worst places to try and passive, I'd rather wait for the level cap to be raised and try something higher level that might seem easier for me.
I find it hard because the goblin hunters in stage 5 fly all over the damn place, including under you, they shoot fairly rapidly too. Maybe you guys just have good luck with them. But I find it really silly that you think bifrost is a bish, and passiving valhalla 5 is not.
I find it really silly that you think Valhalla is a bitch period and Bifrost is not.
Stair Bridge is easily the worst, even Glass Bridge isn't as bullshitty
I dare say, Stair Bridge is fairly easy once you get the hang of what to do with each monster formation.What do you do for the formation where several ice crystals appear from behind, taking up half the screen, shooting directly down, and falling down on the other half of the screen, thus rendering the only safe spot in the mess "Where all of the other monsters you were trying to shoot down can easily punch you out"?
What do you do for the formation where several ice crystals appear from behind, taking up half the screen, shooting directly down, and falling down on the other half of the screen, thus rendering the only safe spot in the mess "Where all of the other monsters you were trying to shoot down can easily punch you out"?
Wide Plain is worse than Stair Bridge. Well, except for SB's midboss. But Wide Plain has shit coming at you from the bottom of the screen like all the time, so it's damn hard for a hunter like me to solo it.Ahahaha what? Wide Plain is a JOKE except for loldeagle who exits the screen every second. ._.
I dare say, Stair Bridge is fairly easy once you get the hang of what to do with each monster formation.
What do you do for the formation where several ice crystals appear from behind, taking up half the screen, shooting directly down, and falling down on the other half of the screen, thus rendering the only safe spot in the mess "Where all of the other monsters you were trying to shoot down can easily punch you out"?
How can you possibly complain about anywhere else having monsters come from behind when Stair Bridge not only uses, but abuses it for profit? Stage five alone takes so much more micro-memorization than Wide Plains as a whole did for me personally.
arrow orb
Okay, maybe wide plains isn't so hard, but the bosses kind of are. ...I think. I get the bosses confused all the time.
Right, actual question. I mastered two skills, and Expert Hunter appeared in the job change list. What do I do with that?Holy shit. Advanced classes? How in the world did I miss this?
Desert eagle is a nasty bish, especially for bowmen. GAH I hate that boss.
If I remember correctly the ice crystal spam never comes twice in a row from the same side, so you just stand on the opposite side which they last came from and obliterate them with your crowd control skill of choice.
Besides, Stair Bridge was the only place where I noticed Enemies popping out behind me Back in the CBT. Everywhere Else Was easily dealt with my constant Rapid/Chaser Combo I spammed all the time back then. I also Remember Desert Eagle being a piece of cake back then, too.
It only gets worse though. if anything stair bridge prepares you little for the jumping cactus's, phoenixes and octopuses that fly into you from behind shooting large spreads. Its practically a feature at that point.
Err I remember Deagle being WORSE in CBT. At least now it doesn't s hoot at you unless it's flying across the screen. Before it would sometimes still shoot while it was off the screen, and you wouldn't even see it, that goes for all the bosses actually. Just that Deagle tends to fly off the screen all the time (always did).
Ice Eyes aren't the problem.
It's those fucking Dark Wisps which force you to hug the extreme bottom middle portion of the stage so you don't get surprise buttsexed by their insane flight path.
Eh? The first time I saw them, I figured out *all* their flight patterns. It's easy to figure out where to be.
You just have to make a habit of not staying on the bottom of the screen.
Finally got to level 20, the whole point of me playing this game, and found out pvp is terrible. If I want this kind of game I'll stick to Suguri. Also my class(hunter) and skillset(mastered arrow orb and pain shot) are absolutely useless in pvp. So, it was fun playing with you guys. bye.
Are there any differences in classes besides the skills? Like stat growths and bonuses and such? Thinking no since it just gives us stat points and JP and basically tells us to go nuts, but you never know.
Also, would it be better to upgrade to the same class's expert/master/etc rank, or another class entirely to get the most useful skills on your skill bar?
what's wrong with swordy's ?
I saw a bow with great damage, it was orange quality, but had no special effects other than "maximum durability lose +11" or something. Does that mean it loses 11 additional durability every time I repair it? Seems odd that they'd make such a "curse" affect result in the bow being ORANGE quality and not something else IMO.
I've seen one of these. Judging from the difference in various items, I think that it's meaning is "+11 max durability". Strange translation..
Anyone want +11 Magician Shoes and +13 Dex Magician *whatever the head item is*?
There's a guild? :V
I got Veteran Fisherman before I got Expert Fisherman.
Patch is up, my virus detector detects "vundo" from the updated exe though...blah.
annoying, I'll just wait for a fix for now.
Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 1.41
Database version: 2775
Windows 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2
2010/01/13 18:08:25
mbam-log-2010-01-13 (18-08-25).txt
Scan type: Full Scan (C:\|)
Objects scanned: 161105
Time elapsed: 27 minute(s), 51 second(s)
Memory Processes Infected: 0
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Folders Infected: 0
Files Infected: 0
Memory Processes Infected:
(No malicious items detected)
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(No malicious items detected)
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(No malicious items detected)
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less talk, now farm me a mistletow bow >=P.
Seriously, are unique items out yet? Do they have durability too?
Only magic and higher quality items that do NOT have durability are those that have the Infinite prefix
Uniques DO HAVE DURABILITY
Uniques aren't that great, really. Their use'll probably be limited to PvP and Labyrinth runs now.
Do unique accessories have durability?
I'm noticing that practically everyone in guild playing is a bowmen atm.Probably because people are too used to ReimuB being the best DPS.
No, the guild had no bowmen at all for pretty much the whole time until the new level cap...Now nobody is online ever except the new bowmen in the guild that seemed to appear from nowhere >=P.
wat
Cotton is pok
Prody is himself
xReSublimitY is me
i do not invite people we don't know.
Just starting out as a new player.
Any beginner tips?
What's "enchantment" by the way?
Playing as Gos (Bowman, Lv. 4)
Anyone tried naming their characters over other shmups?
"Arrowhead" or "Mushihimesama" would be nice to try out.
Also, does the game get harder later? Dry Valley is far too easy...
people who can invite are patchouli, shinki, kanakoMD, and uhh. 1 other person. I don't think seniors can invite, but I'm not sure. I will if I can if I see you. I should be on all night tonight. I'm Ghaleon.
Uh... no. I set it so that anyone with Advanced or above can invite.
can ? the guy at the fishing place sells rods yea ? I mean there's practically a quest to leads you to him now :P
Youmu does cut bullets in PoFV though :V
Hitting 30 means... more space to put junk in! :DDoes that Account storage ever kick in, Or is that not implimented/cash item?
I can't find the person that sells rods, my stamina aches.
If only Youmu could use her swords the same way as the swordies outside of a bomb. <3
anywho, what guilds are floating around I could join so I dont feel like an outcast? :-X
Edit: can fine = win? wtf
What is your name in game? can't invite you if we don't know who you are >=).Ah, sorry, knew I was forgetting something. IGN: Lemnear
Shared account storage is a Cash item. And it only lasts thirty days.Honestly, I just mail it to my other characters.
Shine Bridge stage 12121212121
Shameless double post.
Seriously guys, where did everyone go? One day we'd have 6 people online for the past week, the next, I've been the only one on for an entire week! The game really takes a turn for the better at like 28+ too IMO.
Vast Abyss final stage
DAAAAAAAAAAAA