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Title: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Aya Reiko on March 09, 2018, 06:53:19 am
https://youtu.be/w3Gt42kVgCw

Everyone goes nuts.

Official Site (http://www.smashbros.com/en_US/index.html)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Third Eye Lem on March 09, 2018, 08:08:48 am
Is it bad I'm more excited for the Octo Expansion DLC than Smash 4 Switch itself? I mean, don't get me wrong, this is a pretty impressive reveal, but I'm not much of a Smash player.

That said, I'm predicting that Smash will have an emphasis on a tag mechanic, perhaps like Pokemon Trainer meets Marvel vs. Capcom. I'm not sure if that'd work well, but given Nintendo's current MO is to innovate the crap out of their franchises now, it wouldn't surprise me.

Then again I'd be perfectly fine with it just being a port of Smash 4. That game is huge and I'm sure Wii U/3DS owners would appreciate having a Switch version. Just add in a story mode with less crappy level design and we're good. :V
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Wrathful_Scythe on March 09, 2018, 08:34:44 am
I'm wondering if Sakurai still has his hands on the project after so many comments on how he is done with Super Smash Bros.

I for one cherish this announcement. I spent countless hours on the original and Melee and while I didn't really play Brawl and the WiiU/3DS iteration due to my lack of owning a Wii and WiiU, I was looking forward for a Switch version. The question if we get a new SMB wasn't really a question because SMB is a gold mine and one of the flagship titles of Nintendo. Not releasing a new Super Smash Bros. on their new hot selling console would be like throwing money out of the window.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: WindyKitsune on March 09, 2018, 09:39:33 am
As Nintendo 64 and Wii player of Super Smash Bros I definitely enjoy this news.
This chaotic series is very funny to play and is worth to continue.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on March 09, 2018, 01:18:41 pm
http://buffpuff.club
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Kirin no Sora on March 09, 2018, 04:22:01 pm
http://buffpuff.club

I wholeheartedly agree.

Also, can we get the Ice Climbers back?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Reddyne on March 09, 2018, 05:17:25 pm
I got my Switch all of yesterday, just before the Nintendo Direct.

Even though I've only briefly touched on the series since the original, these games have always been a blast to pick up and party with. The core notion of the series just works so well and the games are consistently fun regardless of skill level. Definitely something to look forward to.

Is Ness still good? Can I still beat my 11 year old brother with Ness? He plays as Samus.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Suwako Moriya on March 09, 2018, 06:46:17 pm
Is Ness still good? Can I still beat my 11 year old brother with Ness?

Now that Undertale's been announced for the Switch, you're gonna have to learn Sans instead.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on March 09, 2018, 07:27:12 pm
http://buffpuff.club
PLEASE
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on March 10, 2018, 07:36:33 am
i'm serious guys i've mained puff since before brawl and have been playing in my competitive scene for almost three years please let me have something i'm dying
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Spotty Len on March 11, 2018, 11:48:17 am
i'm serious guys i've mained puff since before brawl and have been playing in my competitive scene for almost three years please let me have something i'm dying
Well, you could play 64 or Melee and have a good time.

I get the feeling Sakurai is hating her though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Suwako Moriya on November 01, 2018, 03:08:28 pm
KIRBY KIRBY KIRBY HE'S THE STAR OF THE SHOW
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on November 01, 2018, 04:02:10 pm
And he's about to literally catch these hands.

(but seriously though, the idea of Master Hands as a species instead of just a pair of beings in and of themselves is... odd.)

Also, plant.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on November 01, 2018, 04:56:01 pm
KIRBY KIRBY KIRBY HE'S THE STAR OF THE SHOW
You could say that
Kirby is lord god and master and you are nothing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Jq1790 on November 01, 2018, 04:56:19 pm
If I had a Switch the WoL trailer wouls have all but sold me on the game alone, much less with everything else that usually comes in a Smash title.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Edible on November 01, 2018, 06:17:42 pm
You could say that
Kirby is lord god and master and you are nothing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on November 01, 2018, 06:31:45 pm
I'm really not sure why of all the newcomers coming with the base game No Piranah Plant dosn't count it's pre-order/DLC they decided to keep the most obvious and easy to guess newcomer for last.

Belmont or even K.Rool being last would have been so much more hype than Inceniroar
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Suwako Moriya on November 01, 2018, 08:31:12 pm
I'm really not sure why of all the newcomers coming with the base game No Piranah Plant dosn't count it's pre-order/DLC they decided to keep the most obvious and easy to guess newcomer for last.

Belmont or even K.Rool being last would have been so much more hype than Inceniroar

https://66.media.tumblr.com/6a5f41ff4d0d17534a08a15b4e4a37d2/tumblr_inline_ofqfvuzzfV1t5zv36_1280.png (spoiler image)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Hello Purvis on November 01, 2018, 10:34:05 pm
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326118027726946304/507683385154600961/Arcana_-_Rimsala_Egg.bmp)

Hello Darkness my old friend~

Also: I am pleased the the apologized to the XBC2 peoples.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: MewMewHeart on November 02, 2018, 04:49:23 pm
I am now 100% sure that Piranha Plant was Sakurai's way of trolling leakers.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on December 07, 2018, 05:13:46 am
♪A RIVER IN A DRYYY LAAAAND (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7z1Ny1kc6g)♫
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on December 07, 2018, 07:44:20 am
♪A RIVER IN A DRYYY LAAAAND (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7z1Ny1kc6g)♫

I know Sakurai implied they'd already decided the DLC, but announceing this so early on dosen't look the best. [Content being held back ect]. I mean, this wouldn't be coming until after Plant.

Also it seems REALLY strange that a Switch-Exclusive has a PS4-exclusive rep. Unless suddenly P5 is getting ported to Switch.

That said if this is actually happening... I am hype.

Edit: Looked up the source ect of where this was aired. It's happening.

Also from what I can tell Sakurai has previously said he's a massive Persona fan. So... what else is Sakurai a massive fan of that's not already in Smash? We might be able to discern other DLC's; especially as they appear to be coming in packs. In before he's a secret Touhou fanboy and we get Reimu or Marisa in Smash
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on December 07, 2018, 11:07:23 am
this game is fun as HECK
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on December 07, 2018, 12:26:26 pm
♪A RIVER IN A DRYYY LAAAAND (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7z1Ny1kc6g)♫

Ha ha what is this real? Looks real, sounds real, but I still barely believe it. :D

Gonna pick up my copy before work I guess.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: N-Forza on December 07, 2018, 01:24:33 pm
Spirits mode is so creative in how they recreate classic battles, I love it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on December 07, 2018, 03:20:50 pm
So; something I'm seeing a lot of discussion over is the Final Smash.

A lot of people are saying 'obviously All-Out Attack' but the catch is the trailer specifically says Joker went alone so a lot of potential for that is gone IMO.

Which makes the obvious path somewhat spoiler for people who haven't played P5; in Sataniel. Especially if he's strictly using Arsene in Smash.

The third option IMO is a bit more abstract and is basically Joker changing the enemy's heart by stealing their treasure. Maybe he throws a calling card to trigger it and if it hits that fires the cinematic. This is actually my personal favorite, especially if they put in the work to give every character a different 'treasure' to be stolen.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: KaiserKnuckle on December 07, 2018, 07:49:51 pm
A lot of people are saying 'obviously All-Out Attack' but the catch is the trailer specifically says Joker went alone so a lot of potential for that is gone IMO.

Which makes the obvious path somewhat spoiler for people who haven't played P5; in Sataniel. Especially if he's strictly using Arsene in Smash.

I have high hopes for SSBU to do what P4A did and have Arsene turn into Satanael for Joker's FS. Though Sinful Shot, visually, would seem too close to Link's Ancient Arrow FS if that was the case; If it isn't, then Megidolaon or Riot Gun would probably also make sense (since those are his skills in P5).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on December 07, 2018, 09:11:57 pm
I'd personally expect something similar to Falcon or even Snake's FS in that situation.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Edible on December 08, 2018, 01:19:25 am
Joker's FS is gonna be the AAA finish attack, maybewith cameos from a few other Kaitoudan folks.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Hello Purvis on December 08, 2018, 02:31:05 am
I want a volleyball nuke in Joker's stage, dagnabbit.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2018, 03:31:35 am
Having so few characters unlocked at the beginning is annoying. It means everyone gets really excited when we unlock someone because there's finally a new character to play with (which results in everyone piling on Ice Climbers for quad-Ice Climbers action) but I wish there were still a lot more to start with. Specifically Wario. Why can't I just play as fuckin Wario?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Mеа on December 10, 2018, 09:53:09 am
This game feels fantastic, I'm glad because 4 felt weirdly floaty and delayed.
Out of the characters we unlocked, I really liked K Rool, Inkling, and Isabelle.
K Rool seems really good, he even has that grounding down throw thing that seems like an auto kill at higher percents.
Inkling is the best idea ever, love playing her. Wish you could refill ink at anytime though.
Isabelle seems like she would be really annoying to play against, with her trap, fishing pole, and ranged aerials.
Really fun, looking forward to unlocking everyone.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on December 10, 2018, 10:04:13 am
Inkling is the best idea ever, love playing her. Wish you could refill ink at anytime though.
Shield+B  ;D


by the way my puff is sick i'm so happy
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Edible on December 10, 2018, 04:04:04 pm
Jiggly is annoying as shit and I love her.

They really nailed the classic feel of the Belmonts.  A little slow, not great in the air, but they have so much power and range.

Big winner has to be Inkling though.  Such a blast to play.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Suwako Moriya on December 10, 2018, 04:48:35 pm
I've been focusing so far on farming the Spirit Board as much as possible, which hasn't left a lot of time to check out the new characters (the only one I've gotten around to was Incineroar, who was reasonably fun and amusing but nothing world-stopping). That being said, blowing through Spirit Board challenges with Roy and Little Mac has been insanely satisfying, and I've laugh many a true laugh at some of the creative and hilarious ways Nintendo has come up with to represent the Spirits with the existing playables and other mechanics.

If I'm salty about anything, it's that my game's RNG left the Palutena unlock for dead last.

Speaking of, Japan did as Japan does (https://kotaku.com/japanese-smash-bros-players-show-palutena-doesnt-get-u-1830977919). (Mildly NSFW)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: PX on December 11, 2018, 08:52:46 am
The order you unlock characters by spamming matches is not random. Palutena is last lol
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Suwako Moriya on December 11, 2018, 04:05:27 pm
WTF RUDE

Sakurai how dare you do this to our waifu
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on December 11, 2018, 08:37:43 pm
dat paz spirit tho :V
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2018, 02:28:23 am
Does anyone know where I can find the Camilla spirit? She may be censored but I'm still waiting warmly for her and she hasn't turned up yet for me.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: PX on December 12, 2018, 04:24:37 pm
Does anyone know where I can find the Camilla spirit? She may be censored but I'm still waiting warmly for her and she hasn't turned up yet for me.

She's at the top of the mountain at the far right side of the map near the top
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: MewMewHeart on December 12, 2018, 05:12:31 pm
Spammed the spirit board and got most of my mains to pop up to unlock this is great... although l'm pretty much having fun with both the board and adventure mode. I love how they recreate some of the spirit characters main game stuff in a smash setting although some can be annoying.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on December 13, 2018, 04:45:56 am
Crap, wrong thread.

Welp, might as well ask something on-topic. How are the Belmonts' recovery?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Edible on December 13, 2018, 04:54:15 am
Extremely bad.  Thankfully they're pretty heavy, but.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Leon゠Helsing on December 13, 2018, 05:03:55 am
So what would you recommend to avoid getting dicked on a la Little Mac? I don't have a Switch yet, but I do plan on buying it along with Smash Ultimate relatively soon-ish.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on December 13, 2018, 09:21:20 am
Note you can tether the ledge with forward and back air, so they don't have just upB. You'll probably want to use that much of the time.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on December 15, 2018, 03:20:32 am
Eventually unlocked Wario, I like him a lot. How does his fart attack work? Sometimes it's really strong and sometimes it does literally nothing. It doesn't seem like it can be charged, is the effect random?

She's at the top of the mountain at the far right side of the map near the top

Thanks. It took me forever to get over there because weird stuff kept happening and I thought you meant the volcano at first, but I got her! Her battle is pretty cute.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Kilgamayan on December 15, 2018, 03:47:58 am
Wario's fart charges with a combination of time and items eaten.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: PX on December 15, 2018, 06:10:20 pm
It charged too fast in brawl and nerfed to oblivion in 4 so I don't know how fast it is in U
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2018, 02:46:06 am
I can't remember the last time I've been as frustrated with a video game than I have been with the 9-Volt and 18-Volt spirit battle. I genuinely don't believe anyone playtested this.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: N-Forza on December 17, 2018, 08:42:33 am
I used Assist Killer and First-Strike Advantage to force my way through.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2018, 01:59:27 pm
I used Assist Killer and First-Strike Advantage to force my way through.

I ended up using Assist Killer and Made Of Metal since I didn't get First-Strike Advantage until quite a bit later. It did eventually work, but it took almost 30 tries even after that.

The win wasn't even satisfying, it just felt like the inevitable result of brute force attempts and not like, a good strategy or good play on my part. Calling that battle three stars is a joke, none of the four star battles I've seen so far even come close to being that bad...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Edible on December 17, 2018, 06:31:33 pm
I ran through that fight and almost every other one with an ore club equipped, which trivialized the entire world of light mode.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2018, 10:38:36 pm
Yeah, I stopped using it pretty early because I was getting bored just spamming the same move. Didn't occur to me to try it against that dumb sheriff though, it probably would have helped a ton.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on December 25, 2018, 09:23:30 am
> Aquires Switch

> Aquires x2 25 gift cards

I wonder what I'm spending these on.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: MewMewHeart on January 02, 2019, 03:04:04 am
Guile and Pauline's spirit fights WERE PURE CANCER...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on January 05, 2019, 05:40:03 pm
Well; I'm nearing the point where I've unlocked all characters, just a few to go.

I'm awful at Smash and haven't even really found a main yet. Some characters I've hardly even played yet.

About the closest I've got to a 'main' is Mega Man of all characters right now.

What are you guys playing?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: PX on January 05, 2019, 11:47:30 pm
Pichu, Peach/Daisy, might stick with Bowser and maybe pick up another char like Palutena, Zelda, Ike, or Lucina
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on January 06, 2019, 06:40:40 pm
My main is Wario, and I like Inkling, Bayonetta, Corrin, and Rob quite a lot too. Inkling clearly feels like the best of them, Bayonetta does not feel good at all, but Wario is the most fun.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on January 06, 2019, 07:32:47 pm
My main is Wario, and I like Inkling, Bayonetta, Corrin, and Rob quite a lot too. Inkling clearly feels like the best of them, Bayonetta does not feel good at all, but Wario is the most fun.

I like Wario too.

I've played a bit of Corrin and kinda like him/her but that opinion could change.

Bayonetta got nerfed from Smash4; I know that for sure. But she was the Queen of the game [Even #2, Cloud, generally being ranked quite a bit under her] That's probobly why she feels bad, they decided now she's not Pay2Win [Also Cloud] to nerf her hard to bring her back in line and potentially buff her after.

And yes; with the state of Bayo/Cloud in Ultimate v Smash4 I'm pretty confident in saying their balance state and the fact they were left in that state was intentional P2W. [Smash 4 was pretty notorious for basically boiling down to Cloud v Bayo]

I really don't like Lucario, Mario, Ness and Lucas. Mario has 2 very situational specials, and the rest of his kit is... well... not outstanding. Lucario feels clunky and I hate Ness/Lucas' recovery.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on January 07, 2019, 05:52:36 am
And yes; with the state of Bayo/Cloud in Ultimate v Smash4 I'm pretty confident in saying their balance state and the fact they were left in that state was intentional P2W. [Smash 4 was pretty notorious for basically boiling down to Cloud v Bayo]
Well, Cloud and Bayo were both nerfed. Cloud's nerfs were minuscule outside of removing aerial FT's solo kill power, so that's one thing, but they nerfed Bayo pretty solidly and her results fell for a while until picking back up later only after patches stopped coming. S4 patches stopped because dev for Ultimate started, so basically they abandoned ship too soon after releasing Bayo and didn't stick around long enough to see how the character would settle. I really think if patches kept coming they likely would have been nerfed more but they shifted focus entirely to Ultimate, unfortunately resulting in a pretty stale and sour meta by the end of S4.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on January 07, 2019, 03:01:35 pm
This is an argument that I always hate but can't help but feel like I have to make in this case: If you're going to put Bayonetta in your game you're kind of obligated to make her kick ass. I'm not saying she should be intentionally better than all the other characters or imbalanced, but she should be good and feel good to use. Bayonetta is not an underdog and making her one feels wrong.

That said I didn't play any of Smash 4 so I never had to deal with her being overpowered, but over-nerfing isn't ever a fun or good solution.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on January 07, 2019, 11:45:15 pm
Every character should be kick-ass, which is why this game already feels so good to play for the majority of people. Compared to Smash 4's early days they're off to a very good start in terms of balance and making characters feel useful.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2019, 12:44:56 am
Yeah, there are a bunch of characters I don't like playing as (enough that I stopped setting my character to random after a certain point because there are so many I don't want to see) but it's pretty clear that most if them are good, they just feel weird to control.

Bayonetta doesn't really feel like Bayonetta to me, but as someone who's been playing a ton of Bayonetta 2 lately I think a lot of that might just come down to her lack of different weapons. I know you can only cram so much stuff in a Smash Bros character since they're relatively simple, but no whip is unfortunate. And it feels like a big missed opportunity to not give her a Chain Chomp.

Edit: How do I consistently do Wario's "high ten" move where he puts both hands over his head? I can only do it about one out of ten tries, the rest of them keep coming out as up smashes or jump attacks. I'm probably overlooking something obvious but I can't figure it out and that move seems important.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Mellow on January 08, 2019, 02:30:46 am
Smash was great! I had a lot of fun playing as kirby, villager, duck hunt duo, issabelle, and peach! :D I like to go for the cuter and simpler mains. I'm not too good at it, But i'm trying to get better. Hisoutensoku's controls and gameplay is more my style. There's also the release of FnaF I think? I beleive it's coming to the switch! I've always enjoyed fnaf, and the first game on the switch.... Interesting!

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on January 08, 2019, 03:12:32 am
Edit: How do I consistently do Wario's "high ten" move where he puts both hands over his head? I can only do it about one out of ten tries, the rest of them keep coming out as up smashes or jump attacks. I'm probably overlooking something obvious but I can't figure it out and that move seems important.
They're called tilt attacks; as the name suggests you do them by tilting the stick in a direction and hitting attack, as opposed to smash attacks where you "smash" the stick and attack. With default controls uptilts are definitely harder to do than other tilts because you can also tap up to jump.

Ways to change your controls to make it easier to do include
1) Turning off tap jump so you aren't jumping when you press up (many people do this)
2) Changing your c-stick to do tilts instead of smash attacks (most people also do this)
3) Changing your stick sensitivity to Low which makes the stick input more lenient for tilts and more strict for smashes
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on January 08, 2019, 03:53:28 am
Smash was great! I had a lot of fun playing as kirby, villager, duck hunt duo, issabelle, and peach! :D I like to go for the cuter and simpler mains. I'm not too good at it, But i'm trying to get better. Hisoutensoku's controls and gameplay is more my style. There's also the release of FnaF I think? I beleive it's coming to the switch! I've always enjoyed fnaf, and the first game on the switch.... Interesting!

Simpler mains? I've found Villager and Isabelle, and especially Duck Hunt, to be way too complicated for me, at least to figure out quickly when I get them on random. They're tricky.

They're called tilt attacks; as the name suggests you do them by tilting the stick in a direction and hitting attack, as opposed to smash attacks where you "smash" the stick and attack. With default controls uptilts are definitely harder to do than other tilts because you can also tap up to jump.

Ways to change your controls to make it easier to do include
1) Turning off tap jump so you aren't jumping when you press up (many people do this)
2) Changing your c-stick to do tilts instead of smash attacks (most people also do this)
3) Changing your stick sensitivity to Low which makes the stick input more lenient for tilts and more strict for smashes

Ooooh gotcha! I did not know that was a mechanic. Messing around with it in training I found the easiest way to do it was to buffer the up input, but obviously there's a lot of downside to doing it that way. I'll consider changing the controls, although I might just confuse myself doing it that way. Low sensitivity might work since I often use the right stick for smashes.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Mеа on January 08, 2019, 11:36:54 am
Tap jump is one of those convenient features I can't bring myself to use since going back to melee if I get used to it would be a bitch. If they ever remake it, I hope they include it.

Speaking of up tilts, I'm really happy they finally made Ganon's up tilt not take like 10 seconds to do. Also they gave him a sword, so happy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on January 08, 2019, 08:22:59 pm
Weirdly I have little~no trouble doing Tilts; it's Smashes I have trouble performing.

Tap jump is one of those convenient features I can't bring myself to use since going back to melee if I get used to it would be a bitch. If they ever remake it, I hope they include it.

Speaking of up tilts, I'm really happy they finally made Ganon's up tilt not take like 10 seconds to do. Also they gave him a sword, so happy.

Well; Ganon's a different incarnation than before. I'll admit I'm not a Zelda expert, so I can't recall *which* Ganon it is now.

Just like Link is BotW Link now.

This is an argument that I always hate but can't help but feel like I have to make in this case: If you're going to put Bayonetta in your game you're kind of obligated to make her kick ass. I'm not saying she should be intentionally better than all the other characters or imbalanced, but she should be good and feel good to use. Bayonetta is not an underdog and making her one feels wrong.

That said I didn't play any of Smash 4 so I never had to deal with her being overpowered, but over-nerfing isn't ever a fun or good solution.

To be fair to this point; apparently Sakurai has said if any character besides Kirby could have survived Galeem at the start, it was Bayonetta and Palutena. Kirby only survived because he warp stared out of reality.

Kirby was the survivor because he's a simple character and Sakurai.

Likewise this is why Palutena and Bayonetta are among the last characters unlocked in Spirit Mode and even seem to be the villian's final resorts [As well as the fact Bayo/Palutena are basically opposites]

I'd rather something over-nerfed and brought back up than being broken to the point of making the game unfun.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Drake on January 09, 2019, 12:25:41 am
They made him OoT Ganondorf
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on January 14, 2019, 07:04:38 am
Man, Ganondorf is the most fun. His rework is perfect.

How heavy is Rob? He's slow, but he feels like he dies incredibly early. Like Pichu early. I kept dying at like 50% with him earlier. Maybe there were weird circumstances and I'm just wrong, but I assumed he was super heavy and now I'm wondering if he's just slow and also light.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on January 15, 2019, 08:32:57 pm
I got all the characters bar 1 after Palutenia randomly SD'ed.

I've lost to Cloud like 5 times I can't even kill him at 180%.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on January 18, 2019, 05:22:41 am
Finally beat World of Light. The last boss is pretty fun. And just difficult enough to offer challenge without being too frustrating, at least for my skill level. Still gotta go back and collect some spirits I skipped though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: commandercool on April 17, 2019, 01:23:06 pm
Joker's out todaaaay! He looks super cool and interesting and his stage looks amazing. So much fan service.

His final smash is All Out Attack, and he still slits his opponents' throats at the end but instead of a geyser of blood they spray sparkles everywhere. Oh Nintendo. :D
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros. (2018) announced
Post by: Raikaria on April 22, 2019, 07:05:52 pm
From what little I know of competitive Smash; Joker's been performing really; really well already.

I really hope this isn't Bayonetta/Cloud all over again with a [paid] DLC character happening to be OP... 3 in a row might just start really looking like P2W.