The fortune teller was one big in-joke. I won't say "nobody", but I don't think many people love him. At least, not as much the polls would have you think. It was basically a meme.Please don't tempt me into comparing him with a certain gorilla. :V
Did you forget that Kasen is playable in an official game?And a main character in WaHH (Wild and Horned Hermit)
And a main character in WaHH (Wild and Horned Hermit)
What's this about? i'm so curious, elaborate more pleaseThe fortune teller was one big in-joke. I won't say "nobody", but I don't think many people love him. At least, not as much the polls would have you think. It was basically a meme.Please don't tempt me into comparing him with a certain gorilla. :V
Same thing goes for Seija and Kasen. Just seeing the character more means they'll probably be more popular, especially if they're the stars of the game/manga.
And a main character in WaHH (Wild and Horned Hermit)Though Three Fairies of Light and Kosuzu didn't get treated to the same bullshit. 36 rise of rank is freakin huge of a spike considering the candidate of 9th poll only 140
Did you forget that Kasen is playable in an official game?It's not that, at that time of the poll, 8th & 9th, ULiL not out yet, and only 6 chapters of WaHH (ch5 - ch10), & 2 ch's OSP (ch16 & ch17) within the poll's time period that had her appearance.
If adult material decides the popularity of a character then we're doomed for sure.But, but, they said there's some reek indulger who's only in it for the hentais
About the popularity ranking: In the end, subjective voting remains subjective. You're not the first one who tried to tie some sort of explanation or reasoning to it. People all over the world do it within their own communities. The Fortune teller is technically dead (exterminated). He might have gotten a ranking because he was the first noticeable human who turned into a Youkai and got truly exterminated. Might be due to gag material. We can only guess.That's the tidbit im hoping to learn from creating this thread, what kind of crazy fan stunts did they pull at the time that could affect the unpredictable thinking of vote participants, especially Fortune Teller.
One thing is sure. The ranking is unpredictable. Because opinions.
Basically, (spoilers for Forbidden Scrollery)lol look at thatthe fortune teller is the first character in touhou to actually die on screen, and he was violently killed by Reimu nonetheless over something that seemed minor in the series up until this point.This made people be all "remember the 4chan teller" and stupid stuff like that. Then when the popularity poll came around, there was a big joke about honoring him and giving him a high score and stuff. So his placing isn't representative of his popularity as a character, it represents the popularity of the joke.
dicks out for the fortune tellerAnd there it is. :V
If adult material decides the popularity of a character then we're doomed for sure.
Might just be my own personal bias.
My main gripe about most of these characters is that they seem to be over-glorified and/or overrated, and non-canonical reasons are commonly the cause of such. I'm generally quite annoyed that specific characters consistently score higher in popularity than, say, a few main playable characters (Flandre scores higher than Sanae and Youmu, for instance), or a couple of final/extra bosses who do have important tie-ins to lore (Kanako, Suwako, Byakuren and Miko are all lower than most members of this list). Most of these could be tied in with the Japanese audience and what they think about such, but if one would know what the significance of a character actually is in the Touhouverse then they definitely won't score as high.
Note: The only works I have actively touched are the Touhou shmups, main and sidegames. I haven't touched PC-98, the fighters, fangames, or read any of the manga out there. Plus my knowledge of fanon + memes only covers the bare surface since I am generally disinterested in such subjects.
You're contradicting yourself. If you haven't played the fighting games or read the manga/books, then you likely know far less about the Touhouverse than the people you're complaining about. Koishi gets maybe 70% of her characterization from the fighting games. Mokou gets a lot of extra depth from each new appearance she makes, from CiLR to ULiL. Kasen gets 100% of her characterization from manga and fighting games. So you are literally complaining that Kasen, a character you know nothing about, is more popular than she should be based on only the shooting games, where she never appears. And then trying to attribute this popularity to appearing in porn. Doesn't this just mean that you think of her as mostly a porn character? You, and you alone. This is your problem, not anyone else's.Alright - point taken. Checking out these side mangas is actually on my to-do backlog so I'll definitely give this a shot before I make a further inference. Same goes for the non-shmup Touhous, although this might come a bit later because I don't exactly enjoy the fighting genre in general. I might just watch a story mode playthrough or something to get an idea of how each character is like in each respective arc. Honestly part of this is to be blamed by the people I talk with and listen to, because since most of us have really only touched the shmups, we don't really have a very strong idea or opinion about anything Touhou-related outside of it.
I mean, I don't care if Satori is your favorite character ever and you want her to be #1 at all times: that's your choice, and obviously there's nothing wrong with Satori. But blaming the fandom for liking characters who you, by your own admission, know very little about is kind of unfair and frankly insulting to those fans. I mean, you're just assuming that the people who voted for Kasen are doing so because they like Kasen porn. As someone who voted for Kasen in the latest poll because I think she's cool and her story is interesting, this is actually offensive to me. That isn't harmless speculation, you are actually insulting people. Again, based on something you know nothing about if you haven't read any of the works she appears in.
Edit: Seriously, why the heck are you doing research on Kasen porn instead of checking out the manga? I mean, I won't say you have to enjoy the manga, but if I were curious as to why this character is so mysteriously popular, that seems like the logical thing to investigate. Instead of porn.
My friend is a Sanae fan and is very disappointed to see most people only like Sanae for slut memes and porn.
Honestly, where did you get this idea? Sanae's a character who gets great lines wherever she shows up, and people really look forward to chapters of WaHH that she appears in. Like, "Sanae chapter" is actually a selling point. Everyone I know loves Sanae, and none of them care about any of those memes. I mean, I don't doubt that some people love Sanae porn, but extrapolating that to most seems extremely premature. You haven't done a survey or anything, have you?Sanae does, indeed. I never said she was a bad character, by any means, and of course she definitely has lots of significance in whatever manga or game she stars in. However, you also have to consider the sample audience you're looking at - WaHH (and other manga series) readers would of course really enjoy Sanae's characterization in the story, and as do gamers who have played Touhou from MoF onwards. But there is also a sizable portion of the fandom who have not experienced either of these, and, to be quite honest, I'd say the number of fans who don't read the manga/play the games is greater than the ones who do. It's the same reason why the aforementioned Flandre, Momiji etc. have got such a huge following behind them despite either of those characters not having anywhere near the significance of most characters.