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~Hakurei Shrine~ => Help Me, Eirin! => Topic started by: Darkblizer on August 26, 2009, 12:05:19 AM

Title: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Darkblizer on August 26, 2009, 12:05:19 AM
Hey, I was wondering how to TAS Touhou games. Well, I just need to find
out how to slow the program down. I've searched on the internet
and can't seem to find anything..  Is there a thread for this already? If there
is, can I have a link to it?
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Yukkuri on August 26, 2009, 12:10:51 AM
You could ask GODrake.

Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Rikter on August 26, 2009, 12:37:24 AM
I ussually find running two or thee of the games at the same time helps slow them down. Once I slowed down EoSD to 10 FPS.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 26, 2009, 12:39:35 AM
I ussually find running two or thee of the games at the same time helps slow them down. Once I slowed down EoSD to 10 FPS.
But then you have a really crappy slowdown %.
Drakevision(TM) throws 0% slowdown and I assume it lets you play at whatever slowdown you want to.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Drake on August 26, 2009, 01:31:50 AM
tee hee

The thing I have about people using untraceable slowdown methods is that I've contributed to a few cheaters here and there that I've had to bust, so I never just tell anybody. Also I have this nag about people using it to complete things that they're frustrated about and whatever; simply because I only cheat to unlock stages to then make beautiful later. But yeah, as long as I know what you're using it for.

A TAS of a danmaku game; it's like an art of an art.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Darkblizer on August 26, 2009, 02:06:42 AM
tee hee

The thing I have about people using untraceable slowdown methods is that I've contributed to a few cheaters here and there that I've had to bust, so I never just tell anybody. Also I have this nag about people using it to complete things that they're frustrated about and whatever; simply because I only cheat to unlock stages to then make beautiful later. But yeah, as long as I know what you're using it for.

A TAS of a danmaku game; it's like an art of an art.

Indeed it is.

I just want to TAS stuff for teh lulz, or something like that. :P

Edit: I don't really care about the untraceable part as much as a steady slowdown (10%, 20%, etc)
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: zaelie on August 26, 2009, 02:25:11 AM
Use the Vsync patch to lower your fps to the desired level.

If your intention is to trick other people into thinking your skill is TOTALLY AWESOME MAN and you want a constant 60fps in a replay, then I won't help you. Sorry. I hope we can still be friends.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Sodium on August 26, 2009, 02:30:26 AM
I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to make a topic asking how to TAS, and then afterwords try to pass off a TAS'd replay as legit. >_>
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Zengeku on August 26, 2009, 08:33:53 PM
If you are stupid enough to want to pass of a TAS-run as legit, there is no limit to your stupidity.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Slaves on August 26, 2009, 11:23:20 PM
it's pretty easy to tell when something is TAS anyway :|
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Anavrin on October 31, 2009, 02:08:54 PM
I TAS Touhou sometime, and i use a speedhack (Cheat Engine, MHS, ect)
The only thing i don't like when TASing Touhou, is you can't rerecord, so if you do Lunatic with one life and you die at the very last bullet of the last boss, you'll shit bricks.
Anyway, TAS are not legit if you compare that to non-tas, TASer only compete with each other or only for entertainment, so yeah, it is normally legit.
And like Slaves says, it's easy to tell when something is TAS
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 01, 2009, 12:47:01 AM
it's easy to tell when something is TAS
RANDOM SHAKY REIMU MOVEMENT GO
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Bananamatic on November 01, 2009, 12:53:56 AM
RANDOM SHAKY REIMU MOVEMENT GO
AYAREIMU SPAZZING THROUGH SUBTERRANEAN SUN GO
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: skutieos on November 01, 2009, 01:07:35 AM
If you just want to control the FPS, I know a way. You can use fraps to make the fps go down to any number you want by going into the options and making it record at a certain fps, and then when you start playing, record, and it slows it down to that fps while recording. You can click the record button to start the slowdown and then click again to stop, and simply delete the recordings afterward. I tried it myself, it was pretty funny.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: ?q on November 01, 2009, 01:19:13 AM
RANDOM SHAKY REIMU MOVEMENT GO
Off-topic, but I was hoping for a post like this in a topic about tasing Touhoes.
(Does that make me a bad person?)
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Chronojet ⚙ Dragon on November 01, 2009, 01:40:18 AM
Off-topic, but I was hoping for a post like this in a topic about tasing Touhoes.
(Does that make me a bad person?)
Nah, it doesn't. It always happens in my TASes.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: bloop on November 01, 2009, 03:13:05 AM
Use the Vsync patch to lower your fps to the desired level.

I tried this, but it only lets me set it higher, not lower. Any reason for this?
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Bananamatic on November 01, 2009, 03:13:49 AM
I've used Advanced Game Loader to slow down IN.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Formless God on November 01, 2009, 03:17:56 AM
You don't have to wait for VSync patches. Use Fraps. Probably what I'd do to unlock TH13's Practice stages when it comes out.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Sen on November 01, 2009, 03:46:13 AM
I see a lot of people using FRAPS to slow down their games. Never used it for anything but recording replays myself, so I 'unno.

I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to make a topic asking how to TAS, and then afterwords try to pass off a TAS'd replay as legit. >_>

Oh, you'd be surprised. (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=2430) :V
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: LHCling on November 01, 2009, 04:02:01 AM
Oh lol, somebody decided to mark 'nut's UFO Lunatic 1cc as being Tool-Assisted. When it's not by my inspection.

These (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4391) are (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3048) however.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Bananamatic on November 01, 2009, 04:08:10 AM
Oh lol, somebody decided to mark 'nut's UFO Lunatic 1cc as being Tool-Assisted. When it's not by my inspection.

These (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4391) are (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=3048) however.
Hey, maybe Lunatic isn't enough for some at 60 FPS..... :V
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: LHCling on November 01, 2009, 04:13:07 AM
Let me try that again:
Oh lol, somebody decided to mark 'nut's UFO Lunatic 1cc as being Tool-Assisted. When it's not by my inspection.

These (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4391) are (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=4271) however

Hey, maybe Lunatic isn't enough for some at 60 FPS..... :V
What do you mean by this?
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Bananamatic on November 01, 2009, 04:18:29 AM
Let me try that again:
What do you mean by this?
Wasn't the UFO replay running at 70 FPS? :V
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Drake on November 01, 2009, 04:22:53 AM
Some TAS methods screw up the fps counter.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: LHCling on November 01, 2009, 04:30:41 AM
Wasn't the UFO replay running at 70 FPS? :V
Yes, but now take a look at the replay slowly. The game dropped below 60 FPS during the conversation with Nazrin for instance, and the conversation wasn't even sped through. Also
Some TAS methods screw up the fps counter.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: ghost333 on November 01, 2009, 05:04:40 PM
u can use fraps for TAS if u want...
just choose how many fps u want for rec and an active button
when u press the active button the game will go down to the fps u chose....
just remember to del the RECed video after u are done....
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: c l e a r on November 02, 2009, 01:29:01 AM
AYAREIMU SPAZZING THROUGH SUBTERRANEAN SUN GO

Drake, you need to do this.
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Drake on November 02, 2009, 01:58:32 AM
hurr (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0qn_2puEuk&hd=1)
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: Tsym on November 02, 2009, 03:02:42 AM
I'd want to see a TAS capture of "Gengetu Rape Time" if that's possible :V
Title: Re: TASing Touhou?
Post by: LHCling on November 02, 2009, 03:10:02 AM
I'd want to see a TAS of "Gengetu Rape Time" if that's possible :V
Done it twice. Both times at
15 FPS
. More specifically:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XLI0pqUgEc#t=7m07s (the recreated one in EoSD, which was still pretty damn difficult)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brX0Srttla4#t=4m8s (the original one; partially unstable due to FPS conversion)

Both unfortunately, were not perfect.

Might give the EoSD version another go at a later date.