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Title: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on July 13, 2015, 08:41:21 PM
No game is perfect. Even our favorites have some stage, or some character, or some kind of glitch or issue that just drags the whole experience down.

For me the game in question is Sonic CD, the problem being Wacky Workbench 1. The main gimmick of this level is a floor along the bottom of the stage which immediately launches you into the air on contact. Getting launched means having to climb back down from the upper part of the level before being able to progress. However, in addition to the platform mazes at the top, there are also electric coils in the background that flicker on and off, damaging you if contact is made while they're active. This means that mistakes in the lower parts of the stage take a long time to recover from, taking what should be a short stage and turning it into a lengthy slog.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Cadmas on July 13, 2015, 08:53:50 PM
Various Jprgs I've played that have a 100 floor bonus dungeons at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 13, 2015, 08:58:12 PM
Hey Persona 3, it would certainly be nice if you told me about the existence of The Reaper ANYWHERE in the game aside from a small snippet on the instruction manual.

I kind of like not losing hours of progress due to a bonus boss showing up and murdering me while I'm still level 14.

I also like to be able to take my time and explore each floor without having a clock on my head that is not only random, it's also affected by things that are beyond my control, and I can't see.

With regards, Sacchi.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: MewMewHeart on July 13, 2015, 09:03:36 PM
Dear Tales of Symphonia 2, I like you and all but... WHY THE FUCK MUST YOU THROW ME CONSTANTLY INTO BOSS BATTLE UNPREPARED AND WITHOUT WARNING HONESTLY EVEN in
Celsius Cave's 3 boss battles and I can't even save or go to town to restock UNCOOL
~ Yours Truly MewMewHeart
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 13, 2015, 09:21:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/b7p6XTj.gif)
*more notorious usage in fangames
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: WHMZakeri on July 13, 2015, 10:33:46 PM
So I'm playing Bowser's Inside Story again and here is a pop quiz:
So you want to start a new minigame. The game starts by putting you in the center of a screen and having falling particles next to rows of what appear to be targets. how would you introduce it?
A ) Let the Player do whatever and experiment
B ) Run through the controls and then ask if they want to practice
C ) Have the Helper butterfly character pop out and explain everything
D ) Have the helper butterfly character pop out and stare at the pieces of the minigame for 30 seconds before explaining everything and then also give her a forced hit animation that takes one heart away only to have another 10 second animation of her giving that heart back to you so you know not to touch the ones that look dangerous to touch.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: notverycreative on July 13, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Lack of button shortcuts or having to press too many buttons to do something. Star Ocean 4 is really bad about this.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Spotty Len on July 13, 2015, 11:23:03 PM
Tedious grinding. I have no problem with grinding when it's fun, but mashing one button just to get a 1/256 item or gain EXP is just stupid.

Tutorials are also annoying. Throw us into a unlosable battle and let people figure things out.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on July 14, 2015, 10:17:17 AM
Trophies/Achievements that require a ton of online matches to accomplish, especially if it's not that popular in the first place. I mean, I like Monster Monpiece, but I don't like it enough to grind battles with jerks that only use Lamia/Nekomata decks or boosters that immediately jump ship once the battle starts.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: commandercool on July 14, 2015, 12:40:32 PM
Figjting games that mess with my character too much between installments. Both Blazblue and Persona 4 Arena did this with their last rotation of games (Lambda and Naoto respectively) and as a pretty casual player of fighting games it really turned me off to them. When everyone I play with just got buffs and I got a significant reworking I kind of feel like I'm set up for a lot of initial failure. I've had better luck learning completely new characters than old favorite characters with huge changes. And I know, old Lambda is back in the new Blazblue revision, but the last one threw me off enough that I'm no longer willing to pay full price for them.

Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: pasu on July 14, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
The timing required in the robot game in Rhythm Heaven always felt off to me   :derp:
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Third Eye Lem on July 14, 2015, 08:52:50 PM
The biggest problem I have with games in general is how a game "handles." There's two parts to this equation:

* Ability to remap controls. If I don't like how the default controls are laid out, I should be allowed to remap them. This isn't usually a problem in most of the games I play, but in games like Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, I should be allowed to at least remap the Block button to the triggers instead of being forced to use a face button. :V

* Freedom of movement. I like characters who can move and attack at the same time, or at least not feel locked into place for too long when I need to get out of the way fast. Bayonetta does this well, and even Hyrule Warriors feels very fluid and swift with running around (getting around the battlefield is important, after all). Sadly, an example of how not to do movement well is in a game I had an interest in playing: Copy Kitty. It's pretty much touted as a Run and Gun, but the way the main character handles is counterproductive to that. You can't run left or right while shooting, and the only way to move while shooting is to jump. I'm sure if I practiced enough I'd get over this limitation, but it seems more of a hassle than it's worth. A shame, too: Copy Kitty is an interesting game and I'm sure I'd enjoy it more if the character wasn't so limited.

tl;dr Control makes or breaks a game for me.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Raikaria on July 14, 2015, 10:27:01 PM
Annoying and/or bland characters.

Example: Nowe - Drakenguard 2. The gameplay of that game is actually pretty good. You have to be on your toes ready to evade enemy attacks and the combat is pretty fluid; but you cannot cancel a swing in motion; and you die pretty fast.

The storyline and world are decent too.

But dear lord the main protagonist is a whiny; idealistic; naive kid raised by a dragon. Which is a massive climbdown from Caim; a mute; dragon-bound; badass; mass-murderer fighting in a war against a regime and a cult which killed his parents and abducted his sister [Later sacrificing her to try and end the world]; and brainwashed his best friend against him... while pairing him with said dragon who killed and ate his parents in front of him. Nowe is... an awful stereotype. It's like he walked out of a shounen manga... spiky hair and all, into some universe where such a person shouldn't even exist.

By the way the dragon who raised Nowe is the same dragon who ate Caim's parents [Inferred but not stated outright in the game; the biggest evidence being a line spoken if you let a boss battle drag on far longer than it needs to. Confirmed by Word of God.]. Which is a cool twist.

Another thing I strongly dislike; and this is mainly RPG's; is attempts to railroad you into doing certain things. I don't mean pushing you along with the plot. I mean things like in Pokemon X/Y they give you a Kanto starter with a Mega Stone basically saying 'Hey USE THIS it's better than your actual starter'. or they stick a Snorlax in your way for no apparent reason early enough in the game that there is almost no reason to not use the Snorlax if you can catch it because it's so much stronger than anything else for most of the game. Or the forced Pidgey first encounter.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Tribow on July 14, 2015, 11:37:26 PM
This goes for a lot of games.


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Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: WHMZakeri on July 15, 2015, 12:42:25 AM
So I'm playing what is probably the best Dynasty Warriors game ever made: Hyrule Warriors.
The thing is, I really enjoy the Warrior's style of gameplay. I do love it, but ... it feels to simple. I feel like it has the potential to grow more.
So often as I do when playing Warriors games, I think about ways to improve it, and for the first time I had a rather good idea.

Okay, you start at spawn points that are explicitly on opposite sides of the maps, and you can teleport to any keep you currently own. all of the fighters have some agency outside of the KO counter, and can push the line of war back and forth to their skill in fighting each other. The more ground they cover, the more advantageous they are. Sometimes, taking the fight directly to the point where it's needed most isn't always the best answer. sometimes going down a path you've taken and circling back to route the enemy in a pincer attack works better. You can even make it a sort of multiplayer game if you increase the rate of action. You can have team members working together the find ways to push the other team back and coordinating, or you can even have it be versus and having the players working strategically to paint the ground their own color. You could even-
...You know what I'm going back to Splatoon.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 15, 2015, 08:46:59 AM
Random battles in RPGs that take way too long. Doesn't matter which one. It annoys me no matter what.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: trancehime on July 15, 2015, 09:57:46 AM
absurdly high encounter rates in jRPGs

i said absurdly high, as in, 1 encounter every 3 steps high.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 15, 2015, 10:35:06 AM
That too. Combine the two and you have a game I'll give up on no matter how good the story is.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Raikaria on July 15, 2015, 11:17:44 AM
Quote from: tranceHiME on July 15, 2015, 09:57:46 AM
absurdly high encounter rates in jRPGs

i said absurdly high, as in, 1 encounter every 3 steps high.

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/d/da/041Zubat.png/250px-041Zubat.png)

Need I say more about that example? Especially when in R/B/Y the minimum time between encounters was... three steps. [In speedrunning it's even called getting Threestepped]

Seriously sometimes speedruns in Gen 1 are simply decided by 'who gets threestepped by Zubats more in Mt.Moon?'.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Reddyne on July 15, 2015, 11:55:23 AM
I have a distinct memory of playing the original Dark Souls and longingly eyeing the Murakumo at one point. However, my strength stat was something like 12 levels below what it needed to be. Out of sheer curiosity, I spent a painfully long time grinding up strength until I could finally equip it, only to find that I thought the moveset sucked and abandoned it ASAP. I felt like I had been played in a way even worse that the game usually plays you.

The sequel had its issues but you could equip any weapon and know what it felt like from the get go. If you didn't meet the requirements, you'd get negative scaling, making using the weapon pointless. You could also reset your stats but the items to do so were relatively obscure and only available past a certain point so you couldn't just flippantly alter your stats. The game was so much more player friendly on a number of different levels and I wound up enjoying it a lot more regardless of how many 4chan-style opinions have been tossed around about it.
Quote from: Spotty Ren on July 13, 2015, 11:23:03 PM
Tedious grinding. I have no problem with grinding when it's fun, but mashing one button just to get a 1/256 item or gain EXP is just stupid.

Tutorials are also annoying. Throw us into a unlosable battle and let people figure things out.
Speaking of which, when I restarted Dark Souls, it took me 2 hours of gameplay to make it to the cathedral and the bonfire above Andre. It then took me another 2 full hours to earn the Balder Side Sword. I had earned something like 20 other pieces of armor and the shield from those knights alone before the sword popped up.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: notverycreative on July 15, 2015, 04:47:21 PM
Speaking of high random battle rates, Final Fantasy 4 is the poster child for this. You get Threestepped ALL THE TIME. Even in the remakes. It's completely insane. At least on PSP you have the autobattle option, but you still get ambushed and back-attacked way too often. Actually, that is another thing I hate. Games with a high ambush/back-attack rate that the player has no control over. Even with pre-existing encounters it's possible to get ambushed by touching the enemy from the front in some games. Or the hit detection's off and for some reason you clip through part of the enemy's model even though it looks solid so they sideswipe you despite visually it's a front-to-front thing.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Giratina93 on July 15, 2015, 09:08:43 PM
Random Number Generator drops in MH. YES SHAGARU, I REALLY WANT YOUR MANTLE, SO QUIT GIVING ME YOUR GODDAMN PHOSGEMS AND GIVE ME A MANTLE ALREADY, YOU SACK OF.... AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Esifex on July 16, 2015, 02:08:53 PM
Am I just allowed to say 'Destiny's Story'? Also, Destiny makes rampant misuse of the RNG to determine drops.

Also, RNG in particular. My girlfriend and I play WoW quite a bit, but we've lost a lot of interest. Back in the Wrath of the Lich King expansion, there was a type of currency that you could grind for and trade in for the exact piece of equipment you want.

Now, they've trashed that mechanic and introduced re-roll Seals, which gives you another shot at the loot a boss can drop. However, these Seals have a higher chance of just dropping gold, you can only get so many of them a week (usually far less than the amount of bosses in any one raid wing), and while they DO have a 'mercy' mechanic - the longer you go chain-looting gold, the higher your chances are at actually getting gear from one - you're still just as likely to either get something you've already looted off that boss or something that is a side-grade or downgrade, and not the item you actually want.

Randomness over player choice is frustrating as all hell.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on July 16, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
Attacks in RPGs that turn your party against you. Confusion, charm, and so on. Why, yes, this 10-minute boss fight was going excellently up until you possessed my warrior and made him cut the cleric in half. Now, not so much.

Also, with SMT in particular - why does the protag getting KOd end the game instantly? And in a series with TWO different flavours of instant-kill spells? You can revive your other party members just fine, can't you. Honestly my favourite part of SMT4 was that they realised this was a silly idea and got rid of it.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Jq1790 on July 20, 2015, 03:56:04 AM
Quote from: Fariskanken on July 16, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
Also, with SMT in particular - why does the protag getting KOd end the game instantly? And in a series with TWO different flavours of instant-kill spells? You can revive your other party members just fine, can't you. Honestly my favourite part of SMT4 was that they realised this was a silly idea and got rid of it.
To piggyback off of this with a similar idea...Why, when your "active" party falls do most games with reserve characters just give you a Game Over(or send you to town with money halved, whatever the game does for partywipes)?  The others are still THERE, so c'mon, jump in and do something!

This is one thing I adore the Golden Sun games for; in the second one(I forget if it was so in the third but I think so) if your frontline was wiped out...the rearguard ACTUALLY SWITCHED IN.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: WHMZakeri on July 20, 2015, 06:59:33 AM
Quote from: Jq1790 on July 20, 2015, 03:56:04 AM
To piggyback off of this with a similar idea...Why, when your "active" party falls do most games with reserve characters just give you a Game Over(or send you to town with money halved, whatever the game does for partywipes)?  The others are still THERE, so c'mon, jump in and do something!

This is one thing I adore the Golden Sun games for; in the second one(I forget if it was so in the third but I think so) if your frontline was wiped out...the rearguard ACTUALLY SWITCHED IN.

I just justified it using FFVII's "ring the party up on the cellphone" logic that the reason is because the Inactive party isn't actually with them and the active team dies permanently, jeopardizing the rest of the plot.
don't ask me what happens in FFX or why downed party members can't be switched out. especially considering they can still get up long enough to clear the field for a summoning.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Cadmas on July 21, 2015, 02:18:39 AM
Main party LVL99 LVL99 LVL99
The rest LVL12 LVL22 LVL36 LVL21 LVL48

Every time
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: nav' on July 21, 2015, 10:26:18 AM
Been playing Fire Emblem quite a bit lately and so far, the only thing I don't like about these games is same turn reinforcements. You can usually predict the general area where they pop up, but not always, and of course you never know what or when exactly is coming. So it's basically an annoying way of extending your play time by forcing you to restart the chapter, because you left your healer just in range of the dude with a Silver Lance who spawned and moved before you had a chance to react. It's not a good thing in a game where the main focus is on avoiding any causalties.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: notverycreative on July 21, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
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Also, with SMT in particular - why does the protag getting KOd end the game instantly?
There's usually an in-universe justification reason for this. Probably due to the natural of demon contracting. In the Persona games, at least in 3 and 4, it's different. You can get Serph/Sera/Seraph killed in Digital Devil Saga without a gameover; hell, you don't even need to USE them.

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Main party LVL99 LVL99 LVL99
The rest LVL12 LVL22 LVL36 LVL21 LVL48
Leaked experience is only an issue if levelling up in a certain manner is something only the active party has access to, or if you don't have enough resources to do so. Otherwise, yeah, it's better than having to level everyone up individually. Like in FF6, I don't mind non-leaked exp because you only want to level with Espers eqiupped. But in Star Ocean 4 it's frustrating as shit especially because drop rates are GODAWFUL (and some items might be impossible to get) unless you have the character with the right "monster family" skill.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 21, 2015, 06:27:26 PM
Quote from: notverycreative on July 21, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
In the Persona games, at least in 3 and 4, it's different.

There's an explanation in P3, if the protag falls in battle
Thanatos breaks free and begins The Fall immediately. This is valid even after Thanatos is already out of your body because by that point the protag is the only one that can stop The Fall (World Arcana, anyone?)

Persona 4 though? Nope, no explanation given.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Massaca on July 22, 2015, 12:06:54 AM
Unskippable cutscenes/cinematics. Recently did 6-and-some-extra-parts runs of Dishonored and whilst they aren't long at all it still would have been nice to be able to skip the boat rides and the intro for The Flooded District. Crysis 2 sticks out in my mind for this too. Sometimes I just want to jump straight to the gameplay >_<

Quote from: tranceHiME on July 15, 2015, 09:57:46 AM
absurdly high encounter rates in jRPGs

i said absurdly high, as in, 1 encounter every 3 steps high.

I haven't played many jRPGs but that one level in FF13-2, Academia I think it was, was just downright stupid for this. Pretty much constant battles with groups of 3-6, lasting like 10-ish seconds  then a couple steps and you're in another. And worthless rewards.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: FamilyTeam on July 24, 2015, 01:24:46 PM
Well, I think some of you might agree with me in this, but, well, getting "Busted" in GTA, any of the games.
It makes absolutely no sense that you can get arrested in the game. In fact, in GTAIII, it even makes no sense in the context of the story!
If you're this crazed sadistic genocidal maniac going around in a tank blowing up the entire city and a cop pulls you out of the tank and tries to arrest you, why the hell wouldn't you resist arrest? You're pretty much never unarmed, and all he's doing is pointing a gun to your head, which yeah, IRL it's pretty threatening, but in the older 3D GTA games, you can get blown up between 3 large cars and you'll likely survive, so you getting shot in the head means nothing.
In the HD GTA games, you can resist arrest, but only on foot. If a cop pulls you out of your car, for whatever reason, you can't. I have no idea why the series still even has this feature other than tradition.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: PhoenixMaiden on August 02, 2015, 03:51:06 PM
If I had one thing that annoyed me in video games I guess it would be the owl in legend of Zelda. I hate having to press a button a lot and then ending up listening to him again and again. X_X Another thing is super spammy characters in fighting games(I'm looking at you deidara, lord raptor, and blanka >:( )
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: NovaSnow on August 13, 2015, 03:38:35 PM
Fire Emblem, mostly concerning the new games and Supports, I definitely feel like they need to expand it more other than just texts and menus, it doesn't really feel like a part of the game, and there are some things about characters you will never know until you GRIND for it, which is a pretty big letdown for a game about Unique characters. Also enemies that spawn instantly and move on the same turn, bleh...
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Kaisou on August 17, 2015, 11:22:50 AM
Final Fantasy X: After like 7-9 years, I finally got the Saturn Sigil. But I'm not here to celebrate success, no. I'm here to say that the butterfly minigame has got to be the worst thing I have ever tried to do in that game.
"Oh, Imma just sneak past these two red butterflies~"
*RKO'ed by a red butterfly*
"SON OF A BI--"
Not only that, but Blitzball. It's only okay when you look past the bullshit. Because in Blitzball, 10 EN - 16 AT = 7 EN left over. It works in reverse too, 31 SH - 21 BL = 0 SH left over, so your shot gets blocked. Happened to me around 10 times too many before. I get the whole randomization thing, but damn, that's too big of a random gap IMO.
Yu-Gi-Oh World Championship 2011: How the hell does this dude start off with a Lightning Vortex in his first hand for the 8th game in a row. Why do I draw all 10 of my spells in a row. Why. And I actually enjoy playing the game because it allows me to figure out how to Synchro Summon and how to Fortune Lady deck.
Smash Bros Wii U: A physical problem is that the controllers at the library have broken analog sticks. An annoying thing I have with this game is that I I can't get the hang of defensive tactics, and items are the bane of my gameplay. Ever since Event 41 in Brawl, I have hated items more than I hate United We Stand from Yu-Gi-Oh. The items are the only reason I keep taking 200%+ damage within the first 10 seconds of battle. I prefer no items on any stage that doesn't make it impossible to fight so that I only take 50%+ within that amount of time (I'm an aggro Peach/Zelda/Rosalina player, 1/2/3, so I get smacked around in free-for-alls a lot with barely any defense options).
Mario Kart 8: My CPU teammates all kept attacking me one time. Got hit with 10 bombs in a row all from my own team. One CPU threw a bomb at the wall at Toad Harbor and perfectly hit himself in the face with it.
Harvest Moon DS Cute: Screw the 60 Harvest Sprites requirement. I'm only at 47 so far. Also, the fact that it doesn't really have anything new besides the Touch Screen menu, but I'm still gonna play it.
Dynasty Warriors 4: The lock-on. I prefer moving with my attacks rather than being locked in a single direction when I make a combo.
Dynasty Warriors 5: Heavy 4th weapons for most of the women. Gotta have my OP Qiao sisters, y'know, and the heavy fans are just... No. Sticking with 3rd level signature weapons, thank you.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Ghaleon on August 19, 2015, 10:15:43 PM
I can go on forever but the golden sun series has a really sweet combat system with interesting builds... But its wasted (especially in the 3rd game) because the enemies are just way too easy.

Also a pain how sol sanctum is the coolest bgm ever and you hear it early on thinking the games music is gonna own but it never really lives up to how it started... Kinda like the fortress of doom bgm in lufia.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: inaba on August 21, 2015, 07:34:45 PM
World of Warships: Carriers
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: draganuv15 on August 21, 2015, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: Toyosatomimi No Sacchi on July 21, 2015, 06:27:26 PM
There's an explanation in P3, if the protag falls in battle
Thanatos breaks free and begins The Fall immediately. This is valid even after Thanatos is already out of your body because by that point the protag is the only one that can stop The Fall (World Arcana, anyone?)

Persona 4 though? Nope, no explanation given.

I think the explanation for Persona 4 was
when you let someone die you basically lost all will to solve the case due to fucking up, which would in term doom the world to being overrun by shadows. Then when you're chasing after Adachi if you fail to find him then the shadows invade as you're helpless to stop them because you can't use your persona outside of the TV. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

Something that annoys me in RPGs are long, convoluted labyrinths that have mechanics that constantly change the floor layout/where you can access and you basically have to constantly change things to reach the exit. Top it all off with a shit encounter rate and no reason to go back and you basically have my experience with Touhou no Meikyuu floors 10 - 12
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Tsuken Yasashi on August 21, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
The AI Rubber Banding themselves.  No matter how much I try my best to stay ahead in the game, be it in technological advancement for my nation, or having the life lead in a fighting game, the AI *somehow* catches up with you and goes beyond that.  Its like they are A.I. Stus!
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Ghaleon on August 22, 2015, 03:25:05 AM
Quote from: gokiyono on August 21, 2015, 07:34:45 PM
World of Warships: Carriers

I still never played warships even though I was interested... are they basically the artillery of world of tanks? I actually don't mind artillery in WoT..but I know that 90% of the fans do.

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The AI Rubber Banding themselves.  No matter how much I try my best to stay ahead in the game, be it in technological advancement for my nation, or having the life lead in a fighting game, the AI *somehow* catches up with you and goes beyond that.  Its like they are A.I. Stus!

That's something that not only happens in many games, but many genres even! But yeah I really that too. On mondays I goto a disability home to keep this one guy company, and he likes to play videogames, so alot of the time he asks me to help him with a game or to take turns or to play and have him watch or something. Anyway, I don't really care for his taste in games very much but it still beats my previous volunteer work in a sound studio.

But anyway he was making me play a ps3 racing game "motorstorm apocalypse".. and dear god do they rubber band hard in that game. In one attempt I attempted this stage in 3:15 and ended up in 4th place, and I didn't even wipe out or skid out or anything near the end. I simply wasn't able to nitro for a little bit because another opponent bumped my rear and by the time I got to stabalize (it didn't really do much trouble, just made me do a little 20 degree zigzag thing without even going off track), the enemy was then in the way preventing me from using a nitro well (which basically cost me at most 1 or 2 seconds total)... But in the same race on the same difficulty, I managed to get first place with a time of 3:50 because despite doing horrible, I had a pretty clean run at the last 15 seconds or so and rubber banding ftw.

I seriously don't know how game devs release games where it's so OBVIOUS and say to themselves "yeah.. this is good, let's release this!".
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Ionasal kkll Solciel on August 22, 2015, 11:18:55 AM
Yeah, Motorstorm Apocalypse is pretty terrible in that regard, especially if you have to go for the collectibles too.

New one: in rhythm games, completely arbitrary placement for beats that may or may not be on the actual beat or half-beat. Like, say, the dissonant piano at the start of Crystal Prism (https://youtu.be/n42mJU-USoQ) in IA/VT Colorful. That vid's the Normal mode, so it isn't too bad, but it's kind of rough to do on Hard, and I just can't tell how "on the beat" it actually is, so I have to sightread it every time.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Kyo Tanaka on August 22, 2015, 12:08:52 PM
Games shoving down unwanted objectives down your throat. ie. Puzzles in action game (Resident Evil, God of War, etc.)

Games kicking you into the field, expecting you to know what to do immediately. (no tutorials, no clear objectives start of the game.)

Online games expecting you to pour hours into the game to be able to do the fun stuff, while expecting you to not get burnt out before then. (Many free MMOs in my experience. A good community is hard to find!)

Games with a big social world/area with no form of communication outside of emotes in the game. (Destiny. not sure if that's changed)

That's all I can really think of. Though lately I have not explored a lot of games, aside from freebies.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Uruwi on August 30, 2015, 08:54:45 PM
Crappy FPS in Minecraft. I swear it makes me lazy.

And creepers.

(My brother and) I also used to play Wizard101. You had to be careful when traveling or else you'd get into a long-winded mob fight that you probably wouldn't win.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Ghaleon on September 09, 2015, 05:47:13 AM
Oh... the debt heaven series. I like it. But most of the games tend to reward the player for completing missions in as few turns as possible and such. That in itself isn't too bad...the problem is the game also has hidden treasures that you can only discover by randomly moving and ending your movement on certain squares thru each stage... Some items may have a clue as to their location, but these are normally cryptic or incomplete, and more importantly, only a select few items have such clues, far more have no clues at all..

So the game is tugging you in both directions.. one saying hurry hurry rush rush for the best score/points.. and the other saying to move around and land on every square to get all the treasures... wtf?!
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: CF7 on September 09, 2015, 03:39:42 PM
MC is dead = automatic game over in SMT games. Other characters are dead, you can revive them just fine, but if MC dies then screw you, even if your other party members know a revive skill/have a revive item on hand. Enemy demons decide to gang up on the leader? Game over. Leader got hit with Hama/Mudo? Game over.
It's arbitrary, nonsensical and if RNG hates you? We are SO terribly sorry about your lost progress. And it's even worse in boss battles, because you have to watch (or hopefully skip) that pre-battle cutscene all over again.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Ghaleon on September 10, 2015, 07:11:32 AM
oh yeah, I hate that. Lots of games have this but I can't recall any in specific atm. But I suspect ogre battle was one of them. Basically if you had some members of a unit die, you could revive them in a town with such a service, if your unit's leader dies, they automatically ignore all orders, flee to your capital, and revive the leader there with some morale loss. But if your MC dies at all, even if you still have your capitol, and a town with a rez and revive consumeables.. insta game over!
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Abraham Lincoln on September 10, 2015, 12:21:51 PM
Quote from: Cadmas on July 21, 2015, 02:18:39 AM
Main party LVL99 LVL99 LVL99
The rest LVL12 LVL22 LVL36 LVL21 LVL48

Every time

As a Kantai Collection player, I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Tamer Anode/Cathode on September 10, 2015, 04:33:15 PM
Quote from: CF7 on September 09, 2015, 03:39:42 PM
MC is dead = automatic game over in SMT games. Other characters are dead, you can revive them just fine, but if MC dies then screw you, even if your other party members know a revive skill/have a revive item on hand. Enemy demons decide to gang up on the leader? Game over. Leader got hit with Hama/Mudo? Game over.
This was at its absolute worst in Strange Journey where a certain boss had an attack that inflicted status effects completely at random on your party. One of these effects was Stone. This was treated as instant death if it proc'd on your MC.
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Ghaleon on September 11, 2015, 10:54:33 PM
Trails in the sky. Great game, story, combat mechanics...
But most dungeons have extremely minimal numbers of monster types. Often just 2-3 rifferent kinds. Ugh.
Lots of rpgs hwve this problem ai realise
Title: Re: Things that annoy you in games you like
Post by: Your Everyday NEET on October 28, 2015, 11:35:29 AM
Important items that can be lost forever.

In Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky FC, there are a certain books that gives you ultimate weapon for either Estelle or Joshua that can only be obtained by doing certain things at certain time. You can only fuck up the first two, what's that? Missed the third one? Bye, bye ultimate weapon.

In Xenogears, there are three important items at the very first village that can be traded for kick-ass equipment... At the very last town. After passing through the first dungeon, the village went BOOM along with the items.

At least modern JRPG finally let go of that bullshit and it's replaced with... DLC. That's right, want to get ultimate weapon from the get-go? Sure, just give us your 1.25$ (According to IF, they still cool though)