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Title: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on May 28, 2015, 10:20:07 PM
The registrations for the year are now open! (http://fourjobfiesta.com/index.php) (<- link)
(Note: It wasn't supposed to be open for a couple more days; not all pages/rulesets are currently fully updated.  You may wish to actually wait a couple days to register.  Whoops.)

Q: What is this?
A: A month-and-a-half long charity marathon benefitting Child's Play.  Play Final Fantasy V, on whatever platform you want (SNES, PS1, GBA, iOS, emulator), with the jobs given to you by the custom RNG bot, Gilgabot!

Q: When does it start?
"The fiesta begins June 22 0:00 EDT!"
That said, you can register today!
(It runs for about a month and a half to two months, so there's plenty of time and no rush.  You can even register once the fiesta has begun, register for multiple runs, etc!)

Q: What do I need to sign up?
A: A twitter account.  That's it.  You can totally make a throwaway twitter account for this; just make sure you will be able to remember the password.  It's used to tweet at Gilgabot (https://twitter.com/FF5ForFutures) for commands, such as signing up, revealing jobs, and reporting victories

Q: How does the four job thing work?
A: This depends on whether you play Standard or Natural Only rules.
In Standard, once you get your first crystal and reveal your first job, your entire party will be locked into that job.  As you get the new jobs, you need to have one representative of each available job at all times (excluding when you have insufficient party members to do so).  You can swap jobs as often as you want within that limitation, and mix and match the abilities you learn freely.
In Natural Only, each character is locked to Freelancer until you get their respective crystal - at which point the character is locked forever into whatever job you got for that crystal.  No mixing and matching jobs.  This is the tougher one by a significant margin!

Q: What about this "No 750" or "Classic" or...?
A: There's several sets of runs that affect what classes you can obtain...
In Regular, you will receive one random Wind, Water, Fire, and Earth job at each crystal.
In Random, you can receive at each crystal, any job that you haven't obtained yet that is now available.  For instance, the Water crystal may also unlock a new Wind job instead, and the Earth could hand you any job in the game.  You're more likely to receive jobs from the first crystals as a result, and very unlikely to see an Earth crystal job.
Team 750 and Team No 750 divide the classes in half, primarily based on their access to the rod-breaking strategies (Hence the name, as rods cost 750), but also in general theme.  You will gain one available class from each crystal
Team 750 can draw:  White Mage/Black Mage/Blue Mage  ;  Time Mage/Summoner/Red Mage  ;  Geomancer/Bard  ;  Chemist/Dancer
Team No 750 can draw: Thief/Monk/Knight ; Mystic Knight/Berserker ; Ninja/Beastmaster/Ranger ; Dragoon/Samurai
Classic will assign you one of the six original FF1 classes at each job, and can assign you multiples of the same job.  This is automatically under Natural Only rules, as above.  Could be potentially hellish (four white mages is a legit risk)

Q: And the new "Chaos" rule?
A: ~*~it is a mystery~*~

Q: Berserker Risk?
A: Based on the amount of donations received before preregistration ends vs the number of players who signed up for this, those players will receive 0-3 automatic Berserkers among their classes!  They're quite a challenging class to work with due to really being entirely out of your control, but that doesn't mean they're bad.  Just brace yourself!

Q: I don't know Final Fantasy V that well...
A: That's why I wrote this (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rtr4hud61zu35wg/ffv%20fjf%20handbook.txt)!  It's a handbook specifically oriented towards the FJF that covers more or less everything you'd ever want to know to make the most of the game's mechanics, the classes you've drawn, to help you figure out boss strategies, etc.  Also, MotK has several veterans of this challenge, and we'll always be available to offer a helping hand if you stumble or just run face first into a brick wall.
And yes, this is totally a great excuse to play FFV for the first time!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Stuffman on May 28, 2015, 10:50:31 PM
Oh man, it's time again!

Unfortunately last year I ended up giving up in World 2 Exdeath's castle. I got completely shafted on jobs (Thief, Berserker, Beastmaster, Dragoon, which is arguably the worst possible setup) and didn't have the fortitude to see it through.

I'm considering doing a Team 750 run this year because in the last two years I haven't gotten a single MP-using job. And I got Berserker both times! Come the fuck on!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on May 28, 2015, 11:03:14 PM
Berserker rage
I got two Berserkers last time, so I just said "NOPE!" and quit last year. I'll try again this year, if only to see how CHAOS MODE works.

inb4 randomizer run
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on May 28, 2015, 11:04:19 PM
this talk of CHAOS MODE intrigues me and I wish to learn more
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 28, 2015, 11:11:54 PM
I had a great team last year but I just ran out of steam on an out-of-game level. I'll at least reg this year and see how it goes - Chaos Mode if that's something that interests me, Random otherwise.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on May 28, 2015, 11:44:21 PM
Quote
Chaos (#RegChaos)

Players will be assigned jobs.

That's literally all the site says right now about Chaos.  Nobody knows~

I dropped out too right before the final battle (I had to do some grinding for levels to have the HP and just... never got around to it).  This year, no Risk or Natural challenge for me - though I'm totally going to faceplant Chaos.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on May 28, 2015, 11:57:03 PM
chaos mode oh bby

I'm going to hold off on registering/donating until the website looks like it's 100% up.  Poking around on the twitter suggests the June 22nd start date miiiiight be incorrect, which I sure hope so because aaaaaaa so hype to start!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on May 29, 2015, 12:47:19 AM
Unfortunately last year I ended up giving up in World 2 Exdeath's castle. I got completely shafted on jobs (Thief, Berserker, Beastmaster, Dragoon, which is arguably the worst possible setup) and didn't have the fortitude to see it through.
There was a discussion earlier in last year's thread about this. And then you drew it. The odds were less than 0.1% and it still happened.

Anything different than last year for me. Last year I learned that bearserkers could tank well while still being punchy, that dancers can go from nothing to the bee's knees when the sword dance equips and chicken knife came along, and that ninjers started awesome, stayed awesome, and were incredibly reliable for damage.

Oh I also learned that I have way too much to learn about blue mages. The whole cast-Missile-25-times-for-4-hits on the guardian crystal bosses in world 2 still gets to me.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: WHMZakeri on May 29, 2015, 12:48:29 AM
I'm curious to know what Chaos mode is, but after getting beaten down by no-class switching runs the past two years, I decided to play it safe and loosen up with a normal run this year.
Still getting in on Berzerker action!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on May 29, 2015, 01:09:37 AM
I feel kind of ashamed that I didn't really do much with my Classic run last year. I got as far as the Forest of Moore in the second world, then ran out of steam there. I'm definitely going to try to finish the game this time around.

Looking forward to what this new Chaos mode is about, but I can imagine it's going to be... something different, at least. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on May 29, 2015, 01:14:39 AM
I'll probably go ham and start Chaos BERSERKER RISK once the site actually lists what Chaos is.

Won two runs last year. First was Thief/MK/Beastmaster/Chemist which ended with a sweep, and only #Victory with Knight/Monk/Berserker/Beastmaster.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: WHMZakeri on May 29, 2015, 02:22:31 AM
My prediction for Chaos Mode: 4x Berserkers will be a possible class combination.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on May 29, 2015, 02:35:13 AM
It may be possible with Berserker Risk if enough people donate. A lot of people think it's any crystal's jobs available at any time since that was something highly requested over several years.

That and the picture by the Chaos is Coming thing here also suggests that. http://blog.fourjobfiesta.com/


You'd still need a random roll for a berserker though, which seems unlikely(or more if Chaos also adds in duplicates, but I doubt that).
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on May 29, 2015, 11:58:22 AM
I sorta wonder if Chaos is just any job selected at random for all characters. You could wind up with 3 or 4 characters waiting for an earth crystal jobs! I dunno...

A few donations have already come in and the page hasn't been reset back to please-watch-warmly mode. Maybe the guy running this is OK with things as-is for now?

HEY EVERYONE are we going to swap over to the appropriate avatars again this year? There could be a theme like choosing your :dragonforce:~*~ALL STAR~*~ :dragonforce: from last year. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on May 29, 2015, 12:09:14 PM
I peregged... for Chaos Mode first thing. here's to hoping it's mainly just all four jobs assigned right at the start... but I think I'm ready for any surprises after having done this enough times!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on May 29, 2015, 01:13:28 PM
I gave up on my BERSERKER RISK run around the time the void happened, couldn't be bothered doing all the grinding it'd take to not get one-shotted by everything over there.

I just pre-regged for chaos. This will end poorly.

My current guess, by the way, is that since Chaos is the final boss of FF1, the Chaos run will require you to perform the legendary FOUR WHITE MAGES run.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on May 29, 2015, 02:17:41 PM
I sorta wonder if Chaos is just any job selected at random for all characters. You could wind up with 3 or 4 characters waiting for an earth crystal jobs! I dunno...

A few donations have already come in and the page hasn't been reset back to please-watch-warmly mode. Maybe the guy running this is OK with things as-is for now?

HEY EVERYONE are we going to swap over to the appropriate avatars again this year? There could be a theme like choosing your :dragonforce:~*~ALL STAR~*~ :dragonforce: from last year. Just a thought.

Poking around the Twitter it seems like everything now is registerable even if it's not officially open so should be safe to go.  Does look like it has been pushed back a week noooo :(

Definitely gonna commit to the Let's Make A Deal mystery curtain #3 that is ~chaos mode~ as poking through the Twitter shows that we will be told nothing about it beyond "THERE WILL BE JOBS ASSIGNED" oh my.  I'm not sure how excited I am about the risk of duplicates (http://imgur.com/WPVGXwN) since less classes is less silly shenanigans but on the other hand CURTAIN #3 MONTY! (https://youtu.be/_kLoKWErmRQ?t=3m27s)  As long as it's not innate Natural run, as from watching the rest of you kids do that mode it seems more tedious and less fun than it was challenging, I don't really want to be playing a job class game without all the job class switching shenanigans.

I don't know if it's asking too much, but I think it'd be a cool idea to have everyone's run type/party updated in the OP so people can see at a glance who's doing what, especially newcomers in the thread.

Also yesssss I am all for TEAM FIESTA AVATAR CLUB and if you didn't do it last year just pick anyone you want!  We could reprise the art from last year or maybe the same type/pose sprites directly from here? (http://www.videogamesprites.net/FinalFantasy5/Party/)  I am cool with whatever!  Let's decide soon!

My current guess, by the way, is that since Chaos is the final boss of FF1, the Chaos run will require you to perform the legendary FOUR WHITE MAGES run.
Nah I don't think that's it, given the picture on the main site
(http://i.imgur.com/0M16ZRP.png)
Which is a party that is not possible under any previous Fiesta lineup, and I think the job lineup used last year was how people sussed out the introduction to Classic Mode, so I'm going to also be operating under the assumption that's it's true random.

There are mods to open up all the jobs at the start, I wonder if those would be kosher/recommended if ~chaos mode~ winds up being what we think it will?

EDIT: I just notice Garlyle you called this the Five Job Fiesta in the OP  :V :V :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on May 29, 2015, 04:03:43 PM
Welp, went ahead and did my Chaos BERSERKER RISK submission. Jobs will be assigned.

Right now, I've counted six people that have went Chaos Natural BERSERKER RISK, and plenty with Chaos BERSERKER RISK
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on May 29, 2015, 05:29:38 PM
EDIT: I just notice Garlyle you called this the Five Job Fiesta in the OP  :V :V :V
you can prove nothing

also a theory from a friend of mine is that the game's going to assign you a new completely random team at each crystal
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on May 29, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
you can prove nothing

also a theory from a friend of mine is that the game's going to assign you a new completely random team at each crystal

You also didn't link to the actual site  :colbert:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on May 29, 2015, 05:59:35 PM
Also joining team ~CHAOS~ and will give Steve Prefontaine the quiet send off he deserves in favor of Ninja Gramps.

also a theory from a friend of mine is that the game's going to assign you a new completely random team at each crystal
I thought so for a while too but I think it would negate much of the purpose of the Natural run. In between each crystal, you could grind up everyone to max job level. They'd get kicked over to a brand new class on the next crystal, and then you'd have another 4 jobs to master. This could mean getting access to a whole slew of jobs. Even in a Natural run you'd probably wind up with some 12 unique skillsets bouncing around and if you don't do Natural, forget it. There's somewhere in the neighborhood of a 50% chance that someone would wind up with any given class. It would also encourage a TON of grinding. Most of all, this will also be real hard to monitor through to completion and might be a lot of work for the guy who runs it. That's my observations on things anyhow and I'll probably be proven wrong. BV
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Five Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on May 29, 2015, 08:32:55 PM
You also didn't link to the actual site  :colbert:
literally the first words in the post are the link and this time I didn't have to edit that in but fine I'll make it more clear
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on May 29, 2015, 08:53:46 PM
In addition to what Reddyne said, I don't think it'll be new set at each crystal because you get all the jobs comparatively early on in the game - it'd !Mix everything up in the beginning but the bulk of the game would be missing out on the silliness and be standard, unless you get to keep the outdated job skills which would go against the ~spirit~ of the Fiesta.  I guess it could just be scout's honor to not use "disallowed" job skills, but that seems really easy to accidentally goof up. 

My wacky alternate theory is maybe jobs are assigned in pairs.... each character can only have those two jobs and when in Job A has to have a skill from Job B at all times.  Under that, getting BERSERKER means you're rolling with !Berserk no matter what and it's the same result as in a standard game :V

Is anyone having trouble registering?  I have a protected Twitter account and even though I took off the security no dice.  I must officially declare my intentions of ~chaos~ to our benevolent overlord Gilgbaot
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on May 29, 2015, 10:26:32 PM
My wacky alternate theory is maybe jobs are assigned in pairs.... each character can only have those two jobs and when in Job A has to have a skill from Job B at all times.  Under that, getting BERSERKER means you're rolling with !Berserk no matter what and it's the same result as in a standard game :V

Equip Axes. :colbert:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on May 29, 2015, 11:36:26 PM
Evidently, the part where I use Twitter for only the FJF has triggered the spam filter because I can't seem to get my registration to work.  :ohdear:  I guess I'll try again tomorrow and maybe poke around for follows so I'll stop triggering the anti-spam.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on May 29, 2015, 11:46:31 PM
I can't get mine to go through either and my account shouldn't trip up any flags.
Looking at Gilgabot's responses it might be specifically the #regChaos that isn't working  :fail:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on May 30, 2015, 12:14:16 AM
It seems reg is hanging at 437 entrants. Maybe a fix will need to come along or somesuch or updates occur every so often.

EDIT: Nope it's updating regularly I wonder what's up?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 30, 2015, 06:53:09 AM
Ok, I'll PROBABLY do a Chaos Run or something. I did actually complete last years run, with Omega and Shinryuu shanked, but Gilgabot never counted it *grump*.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on May 30, 2015, 01:07:16 PM
Registration is fixed go team go!
Also let's figure out what sort of TEAM FIESTA AVATAR ADVENTURE we shall undergo this year all democratically  :toot: http://strawpoll.me/4492296
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: RegalStar on May 30, 2015, 04:18:42 PM
I'm going with #regchaos, natural and risk for my first run. Whatever the mode is, I'm ready to face it head on.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: WHMZakeri on May 30, 2015, 05:26:00 PM
Equip Axes. :colbert:

It should only count if you're wielding an Axe, though.
Axe time Mage.

Also I gave in to the overwhelming power of the mystery box and re-regged for Chaos.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on May 30, 2015, 08:23:45 PM
Registered for real this time. THE CHAOS IS INSIDE OF ME

So if we go with the assumption that a Chaos run is four totally random classes...what happens if you get four Earth jobs? Do you have to play as Freelancers for the entirety of world 1?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on May 30, 2015, 08:36:06 PM
You'd have to play as 4 Freelancers for most of World 1, which really isn't that hard when you have equip anything. You'll have the whip for paralyze, elemental bows and an elemental sword for hitting elemental weaknesses, death sickles for instant death if you farm them(definitely farm these if you're playing with risk), the healing staff, rod breaking. The katana that's in Tycoon Castle where you get the Healing Staff as well is pretty good early game.


Freelancer may be limited to only the item and attack commands, but you have so many options, it's ridiculous. It was one of the funner single class runs I've done in the game, though of course, most of the really great stuff comes in W2/W3 where you wouldn't have a freelancer in the fiesta(unless Chaos allows Freelancer/mime as well, but I think he'll keep those job fair only).
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on May 30, 2015, 09:51:52 PM
Also something I just noticed. If you look at the description for Berserker Risk on the site, in the line 'This is the only way to get duplicate jobs', they slipped in the Chaos run's question mark icon. So can we assume duplicate jobs are going to be a thing?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: UncertainJakutten on May 30, 2015, 10:30:14 PM
I am the chaos. Just Chaos, no natural or BERSERKER RISK, I don't want to go TOO crazy (or dilute the madness that is likely to be chaos)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: WHMZakeri on May 31, 2015, 12:56:56 AM
Apparently there has been more information released on How the Chaos Job system will work in FFVFJF (http://blog.fourjobfiesta.com/post/120308526238/a-clarification-on-regchaos)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on May 31, 2015, 01:10:23 AM
It really is just HERE HAVE JERBS NOW GO PUNCH A TREE TO DEATH. TO X-DEATH EVEN.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on May 31, 2015, 01:12:19 AM
Apparently there has been more information released on How the Chaos Job system will work in FFVFJF (http://blog.fourjobfiesta.com/post/120308526238/a-clarification-on-regchaos)
Aw, I was hoping for Engineer + Culinarian + Landsknecht + Plumber
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on May 31, 2015, 01:57:20 AM
PUNCH A TREE
BURN A TREE
THROW MONEY AT A TREE
BERSERKER A TREE
THE OPTIONS ARE ENDLESS

Also more of you go vote on the poll it's a tie so faaaaar! http://strawpoll.me/4492296
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on May 31, 2015, 02:33:25 AM
Time to get jiggy with the chaos! (hops aboard the #regChaos train)

...Now I have to wait about three weeks for the run to actually start. The hype has been realized  :getdown:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on May 31, 2015, 01:31:54 PM
#RegChaos
#Natural
#BERSERKERRISK




1st run and I'm going for broke.




Also Garlyle good on you to make that Handbook. I was going over it and Notice you listed Monk in the Omega section. Even with that 8%, Monk is useless :P Believe me. And Samurai's only good for casting Haste using Masamune...on Omega(To reflect it)



Was thinking about making a video for Youtube to explain the strengths/weaknesses for each job as well as their "Duty" for certain fights, but might not be necessary.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on May 31, 2015, 06:29:48 PM
I would go natural, but I need to be able to synergize something with berserkers if they come up, whether it be thief speed, knight 2 handed, or something else.

Plus my first party from last year, Knight, Berserker, ninja, Berserker. I doubt I would have been able to beat the optional bosses if I had been on a Natural run, but a Knight with Throw and a Ninja with Equip Shield meant twice the damage potential and twice the survivability. Two handed Berserkers were also nice to have, though I pretty much had given up on the berserkers during the optional bosses relegating them to Zombie tank duty since enemies will still target zombies.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on May 31, 2015, 06:40:17 PM
Registered for chaos.

It Begins.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Lobby on June 02, 2015, 12:37:34 AM
I just registered! For normal mode because I am an FF5 plebe. You guys have fun with your ~*CHAOS MODE*~ I didn't actually finish last year :fail: But you'll all be my FF5 accountabillibuddies this year. I also don't have a laptop that overheats and shuts itself off after 10 minutes anymore so that is a point in my favor.   :toot:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 02, 2015, 02:56:56 AM
For status effect stuff:

Aging does affect enemy physical attack on GBA(not sure on Mobile ones). After the enemy is aged long enough on GBA, they will be doing 0 damage with physicals.

Mini's comment should say 99% evade, not 100%. I've gotten screwed on that 1% way too many times in challenge runs in the past. It's very annoying whenever you get hit anyway, but yeah it's pretty safe.

About the Omega comments:

You'd have to be high 90's just to deal damage to Omega as a Monk assuming no crit, and it'd still be low.  You could take 25 levels off that with the Kaiser knuckles, but you're not going to want those equipped. Max Attack(for one of your weapons or fists) is 255, though you're only going to reach that with a critical hit or buffing your Monk's level. You'd need level 126 for a Monk's fists to max out guaranteed, though you can potentially hit 255 earlier than that. 255 Attack with a crit should still hurt quite a bit.


Heavy doesn't protect you from Blaster's instant death or paralyze. You need a different mix to protect against the instant death. Or just use Reflect Ring since with Chemist, you can just mix to get Haste.


0 Damage does not get you countered since Omega only reacts to taking damage.


For Summoner, you should recommend boosted Ramuh. The fact that elemental weakness ignores any physical or magical defense should make it the strongest summon against him.


Maybe mention the "quickleak" strat for Time Mage where on any version from SNES to GBA you can cast Quick, use the first turn to inflict HP leak through a reflected Venom Rod break, then just sit there since the HP leak will never wear off during Quick.


Bypassing counter/death script stuff:


Also a mention of the Reflect glitch involving counters(that as far as I'm aware is a must to do to beat that boss in Classic)? If you reflect a spell off your party and it hits a party member as well, the enemy won't counter. So if you let your reflected Thundaga(or Thundara for Red Mage) hit one of your party members as well, Omega will not counterattack you. This glitch also bypasses death scripts letting a party with Black Mage, Blue Mage, or Red Mage skip Neo Exdeath if they want to even on the GBA version.


Death by HP leak also bypasses death scripts, which lets a party with Black Mage, Blue Mage, Red Mage, Time Mage, Summoner, Beastmaster, or Chemist skip Neo Exdeath even on the GBA version where Blessed kiss was fixed to not ignore death scripts(but still inflicts berserk on stuff) and also lets Beastmaster skip other forms of Archaeavis if you lower HP enough before releasing Aegir.


The Monk counter thing bypassing death scripts is already mentioned in the Archaeaevis section, and it's useless in the final battle anyway since they at least foresaw that one by making the physical attack uncounterable.

No idea if any of those work on the postGBA versions, but these work on SNES, Playstation, and GBA.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 02, 2015, 03:03:37 AM
On the subject, Ninjas have one of the best grinding methods in World 1 for everything(EXP, Gil, and AP) and is accessible once you get the steamship. All you need all the Fire/Lightning/Water scrolls and then go to the one of the Islands near Crescent to encounter the Black Flames. One scroll kills them all, and a fight with a group of 5 will get you about 4 scrolls worth. You can also fight the Mini Dragons in the forest where you get Ramuh if you want some EXP, but unless if you're using the GBA's Quick Save method to fight them, it's gonna be annoying to get those encounters.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 03, 2015, 12:40:56 AM
HEY KIDS unless we break this tie tomorrow I'm going to just flip a coin or something as to what avatar I'm changing to  :V :V :V
http://strawpoll.me/4492296

Speaking of Crescent Island if you roll BERSERKER go pick up 2-3 Doom Axes (a not too rare drop) as soon as you can mosey on over there for top hilarity on more enemies/bosses than you'd think.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 03, 2015, 01:08:39 AM
RK has basically confirmed the details of Chaos mode on the subreddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/ff5fjf/comments/384310/chaos_run/), apparently.

The summary:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 03, 2015, 01:51:15 AM
So it sounds like if you see a Fire Crystal job at wind, you then know all your jobs are fire crystal or earth crystal. If you see an earth crystal on it, then you know you got all 4 Earth Crystals. And it might spoil things for Berserker Risk if donations stay low. Kind of spoils some of the chaos.

Still no confirmation on whether Chaos has Duplicates though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 03, 2015, 01:55:17 AM
So it sounds like if you see a Fire Crystal job at wind, you then know all your jobs are fire crystal or earth crystal. If you see an earth crystal on it, then you know you got all 4 Earth Crystals. And it might spoil things for Berserker Risk if donations stay low. Kind of spoils some of the chaos.

Still no confirmation on whether Chaos has Duplicates though.

oooooh yeah that's true re: knowledge ahead. I'm gonna asuuuuuuume no dupe jobs aside from BERSERKERRISK since regular Random doesn't but you're right, it's certainly not confirmed yet.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 03, 2015, 02:15:22 AM
On the other hand if you don't roll a Wind Crystal job and you get saddled with 4 Berserkers at the Water Crystal either organically or through the risk have fun getting through Byblos or worse Sandworm if everything else is Earth :getdown: :colonveeplusalpha: :getdown: 
Also wait isn't Soul Cannon pre-Earth too?  Ooof.  You'd be making up for being able to narrow down your final party by process of elimination with the very real risk of some absolute ~chaos~ until you get all your jobs. 

Also I do suspect dupes are up for grabs, as the FAQ had the Chaos ? icon when it stated the only way to get duplicates was via #BERSERKERRISK (or Classic)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 03, 2015, 02:21:46 AM
Also I do suspect dupes are up for grabs, as the FAQ had the Chaos ? icon when it stated the only way to get duplicates was via #BERSERKERRISK (or Classic)

I'd been reading that as just confirming that Chaos was similar to Random to a degree since Random Risk specifcially was previously the only way to get dupes, but looking at it again that line doesn't actually mention that even with Risk you need Random for dupes.

So yeah you might well be right. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 03, 2015, 02:22:30 AM
On the other hand if you don't roll a Wind Crystal job and you get saddled with 4 Berserkers at the Water Crystal either organically or through the risk have fun getting through Byblos or worse Sandworm if everything else is Earth :getdown: :colonveeplusalpha: :getdown: 
Also wait isn't Soul Cannon pre-Earth too?  Ooof.  You'd be making up for being able to narrow down your final party by process of elimination with the very real risk of some absolute ~chaos~ until you get all your jobs. 

Also I do suspect dupes are up for grabs, as the FAQ had the Chaos ? icon when it stated the only way to get duplicates was via #BERSERKERRISK (or Classic)
oh god I'm totally going to get 4zerked

hubris
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 03, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
Awesome. You simply have a 1 in 20 chance of rolling a given class for a given character unless BERSERKER RISK is in place. Suddenly very glad I decided against signing up for it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 03, 2015, 12:43:18 PM
oh god I'm totally going to get 4zerked

hubris
If I get 4zerked4ever for Sandworm (which is a quite low but certainly a non-zero chance even without BERSERKERRISK, but I don't have my calculator handy to figure it out) I'm just going to spin up another Twitter account, reregister and let the original run go through autobattle for hours until the 100 monkeys with 100 typewriters bang out the battle script to clear it as I actually play the game elsewhere  :fail:

On the other hand, despite me thinking Natural is the more tedious less interesting mode, running that with Chaos will ensure freelancers for Sandworm even under the unlikely-but-possible scenario of rolling BERSERKER/Dancer/Samurai/Dragoon so that's got one point in it's favor  :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 03, 2015, 01:04:57 PM
If I get 4zerked4ever for Sandworm (which is a quite low but certainly a non-zero chance even without BERSERKERRISK, but I don't have my calculator handy to figure it out) I'm just going to spin up another Twitter account, reregister and let the original run go through autobattle for hours until the 100 monkeys with 100 typewriters bang out the battle script to clear it as I actually play the game elsewhere  :fail:

On the other hand, despite me thinking Natural is the more tedious less interesting mode, running that with Chaos will ensure freelancers for Sandworm even under the unlikely-but-possible scenario of rolling BERSERKER/Dancer/Samurai/Dragoon so that's got one point in it's favor  :V
The odds are 1 in 160,000 of rolling a full ZERKER team with those odds. 20 classes, 4 characters (chances). Of course, Stuffman's Team Shite on an Enraged Stolen Spear that Needed to be Tamed was a 1 in 600 draw. I botched the calculations on that earlier.

Math is your friend!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 03, 2015, 02:52:49 PM
4 Berserkers should you have it at that point, even if you don't have it for the full run does have some advantage assuming you're playing on emulator like a lot of people seem to for this(to speed through the cutscenes) since you'd be able to speed up the GBA or Playstation versions since they don't hit as high a speed as SNES does). And by the time you're able to beat Sand Worm and Soul Cannon, you'd likely be well high enough in levels for the rest of the game(maybe if you don't end up with 4 berserkers) and also likely have some nice Gil especially since you'll need Angel Rings for Soul Cannon anyway and may want to grind(or might have to since it's a huge help for Archaeavis with Berserkers since it lets his fire form heal you and nulls the ice form's ice attack) to get Flame Rings as well.


Pretty sure 4 Berserkers should be able to get a 2 boss kill run since you could definitely find a setup for Shinryu that works. Omega is impossible for that team though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 03, 2015, 03:19:01 PM
Math is your friend!
I'm off from work today and taking the opportunity to do actual math (instead of the nonsense I see for my job :fail:)  and figure out some probabilities for the Fiesta.  I'll just scan my whole worksheet later it should be interesting
for certain, terribly nerdy definitions of interesting
  I'm taking a break at the part where I'm trying to get the total permutations available oh bby.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 03, 2015, 03:24:14 PM
It's actually higher odds than that.  The clarification states that while the game will rearrange your class draws to give you a job as early as possible (eg if you had three fire and one water job, you'd get the water at the wind crystal and the fire jobs after), it doesn't guarantee anything.  All you'd need is a configuration with either one berserker and earth jobs, or two berserkers and no wind jobs just to roll Berserkers and earth jobs.  The odds are apparently something closer to 0.3% or something.

I think people will accept you cheating a bit for that fight let's be real
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 03, 2015, 04:04:23 PM
It's actually higher odds than that.  The clarification states that while the game will rearrange your class draws to give you a job as early as possible (eg if you had three fire and one water job, you'd get the water at the wind crystal and the fire jobs after), it doesn't guarantee anything.  All you'd need is a configuration with either one berserker and earth jobs, or two berserkers and no wind jobs.  The odds are apparently something closer to 0.3% or something.

I think people will accept you cheating a bit for that fight let's be real
WHOOPS I think you're right. I'm so stuck on the Natural run mentality that I didn't factor in the possibility that you could have teammates with earth jobs.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 03, 2015, 04:56:59 PM
All you'd need is a configuration with either one berserker and earth jobs, or two berserkers and no wind jobs.  The odds are apparently something closer to 0.3% or something.

I think people will accept you cheating a bit for that fight let's be real
Lower actually assuming I didn't bungle that part. I'll show my work later but let's just say the freelancer priority thing turns this problem into a weird mix of combination and permutations and ugggh.

EDIT2: blah blah I got tired and lazy trying to write up my notes all fancy and easy to follow for non-math people also I got to a point where I couldn't adequately explain why it worked other than "well this is how everything adds to 100% so :V " if you want to see work I can scan in what spaghetti mess I have I'm pretty confident it's solid but otherwise....

~CHAOS MODE~ PROBABILITIES

No dupes: 72.675%
1 pair: 25.65%
2 pairs: 0.95%
3 of a kind: 0.7125%
4 of a kind: 0.0125%

Rolling a legal #reg run: 3.75%
4zerkers4sandworm: 0.078125%


I was working on finding how many unique party combinations exist which seems really easy at first glance, but THEN the Freelancer allowance kicks in and made me cranky as Monk/White Mage/Ninja/Chemist is different from White Mage/Monk/Ninja/Chemist... but Monk/White Mage/Ninja/Chemist and Chemist/White Mage/Ninja/Monk would appear identical to the end user or maybe the Monk would slot in elsewhere we don't know the exact sorting priority algorithm and uggggggggh :fail:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 05, 2015, 08:13:42 PM
Plus Natural should guarantee that you have one at least one nonsucky job class for Sandworm(Galuf Freelancer). Anyone with RegChaos Natural has no need to worry about having to fight Sand worm or Soul Cannon with only Berserkers Only.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: RegalStar on June 06, 2015, 03:37:59 AM
The official word for four zerker setup is "use job fair"
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 06, 2015, 03:39:38 AM
4 Berserkers isn't too bad. It's just when you're doing a Solo Berserker Challenge is when everything sucks.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 06, 2015, 05:09:08 AM
4 Berserkers isn't too bad. It's just when you're doing a Solo Berserker Challenge is when everything sucks.
4 Berserkers is still "oh great, it's RNG hell"; and Sandworm's kind of the worst moment for it because even correct swings are doing less damage because there's four of them.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 06, 2015, 11:41:01 AM
4 Berserkers is still "oh great, it's RNG hell"; and Sandworm's kind of the worst moment for it because even correct swings are doing less damage because there's four of them.

Oh yeah definitely. I just mean that in comparison, 4 Berserkers won't have to suffer as much a Solo Berserker would.


I'm tempted to see how well 4 Berserkers work really. brb opening VBA.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 06, 2015, 02:17:31 PM
4 Berserkers is less "playing" the game and more "moving from point to point stopping occasionally for computer simulations to run." I'd still call that suffering, but that's why I didn't sign up for the risk I'll take my itty bitty chances of it coming up naturally  :V

On a related note, I went back to the Calculator class myself to figure that there's a 18.5494% chance of getting any particular job on your team in ~chaos mode~ (sans risk or course)  Any other stats you guys want figuring out?  This is fun I'm actually using my college degree sort of for the first time in far too long  :3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 06, 2015, 07:56:50 PM
So yeah decided to do 4 Berserkers on the GBA version.


Around level 40 was sufficient to beat the Sandworm.

Sol Cannon wasn't much of a problem though I did come close to dying.

The 6 Puroboros enemies are still annoying.

World 2 isn't difficult at all

Pyramid of Moore can be a bit annoying

Rift sucks due to the lower running away rates, and even Chicken Knife doesn't want to help me there. Early bosses aren't a problem though.

TwinTania was close since I forgot to equip Coral Rings. In fact I only had one.

Necrophobe.....let's just say my levels are 45/43/44/45. I barely managed it after multiple attempts. Grinding in the Rift is out of the question really since I can't survive against Iron Giants. Maybe I should attempt to steal some Mirage Vests at the Shrine...


Exdeath...I got to his SPAM METEOR phase before he murdered everyone. Surprisingly avoided White Hole completely. But his attacks just hurt too much. Might go get those Mirage Vests to survive Iron Giants.



Edit: And shortly after I posted I tried again for no reason, and got to Neo Exdeath. Faris and Lenna are dead though while Butz and Krile are at full HP. Faris has the Chicken Knife though. And Almagest pretty much deals around 3000 damage, which at my level is more than what I have.


TIME FOR LEVELING!!



Edit 2 [June 7th]

So spent all day grinding away for many, many things.

I got 4 Mirage Vests (7 Total at least, 2 of which I lost because my Berserker decided not to run away)
4 Thor's Hammers (1 from the chest in the castle, 3 from Rare Steals on Death Claws. I got more but again, couldn't run away in time)
4 Aegis Shields (1 from chest in the Forest of Mu, and the other 3 from Gorgimera steals. I actually have 3 extras too)
4 Bone Mails (1 from Drakenvale Mountain, and 3 from Necromancers in the Void)

And Butz is currently level 61 while the rest are at 59 or 60. Still cannot defeat Neo Exdeath, BUT I'm getting somewhat close. Specifically, I've hit the point where there's only 1 part left. Then he double Almagest'd me. Current strategy so far.

Butz, Lenna, and Krile wield Thor's Hammer from the back row to mitigate the physical damage. Faris uses the Chicken Knife since she is the best candidate, has an easier time hitting compared to the Hammers, and deals over 5k a pop. Everyone is equipped with an Aegis Shield, Crystal Helmet, Bone Mail, and Reflect Rings.

So pretty much my reasons and also concerns

Aegis Shield: Negate Petrification and 33% chance to avoid spells, including Almagest. I believe this also includes Vacuum Wave sometimes? Either that or I'm just getting lucky with the Physical Evade.

Crystal Helmet: Nothing better for Berserker's really..Except maybe the Thornlet but the HP Sap would make things difficult since I have no healing.

Bone Mail: I WOULD use Mirage Vest for at least one guaranteed physical attack dodge, but Grand Cross is one of the 3 moves that ends these battles for me, so I need to remove a lot of the ailments. I just wish the Fatal/Toad/Mini statuses were included...I also realized THIS is why Almagest is dealing about 3k damage, since it's Holy Elemental.

Reflect Rings: I can't outdamage Neo Exdeath before the spell caster part is gone, and since I can't just Odin it, I need to reflect it's spells. This also has me relying on a heavy bit of luck. I NEED that part to cast Delta Attack and have it be reflected onto Almagest part to instantly kill it. This does however provide some extra damage as well due to the spellcasting.


Since at the moment ~60 isn't enough, I think I'll try again at ~65. Least Berserker has decent HP...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 07, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
Thronlet would definitely be the way to go on SNES except for useless Lenna who can't underflow from Thornlet alone. Not sure what level you'd need on GBA or even what you'd be on SNES due to that whole berserkers can't run due to a bug thing so have to power Chicken Knife fully before you get Berserker and can only use on bosses.


The only thing I could suggest would be 1 or 2 zombied characters, with Death Axes or Assassin Dagger for the chance to cast death on the bone mail users, plus they'd take some hits as well. But it'd still be possibly worse for RNG.


As for Shinryu, I think it'd be doable with a Bone Mail, Aegis/Ice Shield, Flame/Coral ring setup. (Aegis if using Flame Ring and hoping to block Tidal Wave, Coral Ring + Ice Shield for if you hope Demon's Eye doesn't come up too much, but maybe some zombies could be targeted by it?). The first option gives you healing from Roulette, Death/Assassin Axe/Dagger, and Atomic Ray while leaving Lightning at 1/4 instead of 1/2 but opens you to a possible game over right at the start of the fight. The other leaves you with Roulette, Death/Assassin Dagger, and Snowstorm as healing options on Shinryu but puts more RNG into later in the fight since Demon's Eye will hit you unless you bring zombies and hope he targets them instead plus the weak to lightning thing. Or you could have 2 with one setup and 2 with another, or maybe 1 with one setup, 1 or 2 with the other and zombies.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 07, 2015, 06:15:54 PM
I thought about using the Death Sickles/Assassin Dagger for Death Procs as healing, but then that brings up the issue of reflecting Spells, especially to take out the Almagest part. Granted this means I can just run with Hermes Sandals but...


I'll give it a shot with 2 Zombies wielding an Assassin's Dagger and Death Sickle, see how it goes. Also since I'm on GBA, I can't use the Magic Underflow glitch, and if I was on SNES I wouldn't use it anyway. Nor would I have access to Chicken Knife due to the Softlock it would cause.


Edit: Ok so I like the idea of the Zombie Death Casters, but the main issue is...them not casting it when needed. It's not terrible but this does make surviving Almagest easier. The only problem of course is the whole "Dealing with Almagest" thing now, as well as Spells. One Holy is pretty much an insta-kill.

I did have an attempt where Butz was doing well surviving on his own, but then a 1500 Thundaga took him out. I then decided to equip a Flame Ring instead of Hermes Sandals and put on the Diamond Helmets I had(Forgot about these at the time honestly). Currently doing another attempt, so let's see how it goes.


I should probably put Wall Rings on Lenna and Krile since they're my Zombies. This way if a Delta Attack comes in, I can reflect it and hope for Almagest to be removed. Plus who knows, maybe a Reflected Death proc will kill off a piece of Neo Exdeath (I wish).



Edit 2: Ok so I'm going to level up more. I need more HP for sure since  the Vacuum Waves and Almagest's are just being too much of a pain in the butt. This will at least up my damage output, which will help since I looked at Garlyle's text and saw the Grand Cross part goes a bit berserk itself under 15,000 HP. GREAT!! So I'll need extra HP for the Meteor part.


I might even try 3 Zombies in hopes to get as much Death procs off on Faris since she'll be the main damage dealer. Will be slow but....


Least I can use Zombies to help make grinding easier :D



Also not gonna bother with Shinryu. No way, no how. Well maybe if I'm level 99.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 07, 2015, 07:04:10 PM
level 97. Wouldn't want level 3 Flare ruining your day
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 08, 2015, 01:08:54 AM
IT'S BEEN DONE!!!!!


(http://i.imgur.com/4zMPi6A.png)



I had to grind up Butz and Faris to level 80 for this while leaving Lenna and Krile at 70. I wasn't even paying attention to this fight for most of it until the very end. The Spellcaster used Holy, which got reflected for about 2200 damage, and I heard the death sound effect, thought it was odd the back piece was dead, then saw Faris hit the Almegest part and heard another death sound.


Then thunder effects.....





4 Berserker run complete...and without the Magic Underflow Glitch. Man, Sandworm, Necrophobe, and Neo Exdeath are just RNG Hell here. Not sure if there's a 4th one for me to consider the bosses as The 4 Bosses of The RNGpocalypse.


All the characters in credits.

(http://i.imgur.com/8KQj855.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/TE1Rbqe.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Dr0GkyU.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/vp54wmC.png)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: RegalStar on June 08, 2015, 03:33:07 AM
Good job. Hopefully this will dissuade anyone else here from trying this madness, or better yet RK will make some sort of sailsafe that prevents this lineup in the first place.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 08, 2015, 04:12:17 AM
Good thing the GBA doesn't have the fake targets and more fake targets after killing something. That's pretty much why you would use the underflow glitch on SNES anyway. Though I think at that high of a level even without the glitch, the Earth Hammer may be useful. Even if it's possible on SNES without it, I would definitely use it for sure if I ended up with that hellish party.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 11, 2015, 11:17:04 PM
HEY KIDS unless we break this tie tomorrow I'm going to just flip a coin or something as to what avatar I'm changing to  :V :V :V
I didn't wind up flipping a coin, I did something slightly more entertaining:
(http://i.imgur.com/Eo79QLX.jpg)
Two identical cat toys each sprayed once on top and bottom of the sushi roll with the catnip spray.  Whichever one the first cat gets to first decides the tiebreaker!  (green is for last year's artwork, red is for attack sprites)

(http://i.imgur.com/riaIt4I.jpg)
Shaking a can of kitty treats to entice them into the living room.  One cat is already making her way with the other, more food motivated cat certainly following.  The one present is the smarter of the two and the one I suspect who will be succeeding.

(http://i.imgur.com/BzWIKyT.jpg)
As expected, Taters beelines to the catnip experiment first and dives instantly for the red toy.

(http://i.imgur.com/JZQ6hf9.jpg)
Not to be outdone by her sister, Ceci follows and goes.... directly to the catnip spray :fail: is k bby this is why I have two cats to run my experiment with.

(http://i.imgur.com/Z8siIww.jpg)
Thanks to my lovely assistant(s), it is attack sprites I will be going with (and you should all follow long in solidarity!) 
Though I think I'll use either the casting sprite if I go with Time Mage/Bard or the item use one for Chemist as let's be real that's what they were doing all game to fight last year  :V


Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 11, 2015, 11:41:37 PM
catssssssssssssss :3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: WHMZakeri on June 12, 2015, 09:32:55 AM
The cats have decided!

I will change my avatar after the next mafia game to preserve my meta of always changing my avatar for each game of mafia.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 12, 2015, 09:59:11 AM
Oh Ceci. Why you so donut.

(http://i.imgur.com/puNuT1X.gif)

Attack sprites it is!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 12, 2015, 11:09:06 AM
I'll do a change once the fiesta starts proper.

Probably something Blue Mage because Blue Mage.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 12, 2015, 12:34:06 PM
Oh Ceci. Why you so donut.
She is so donut.
(also those cat treats should look familiar  :V)

Also if you have not already done so, vote for what jobs are going to be used for ~the run~ (http://fourjobfiesta.com/therun.php) voting ends tonight! 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 13, 2015, 11:02:52 PM
Monk, Red Mage, Ranger, Dancer should definitely be an interesting run. I wonder what the time for it will be.


Also some awesome person put in a $2500 donation, so everyone with Berserker Risk is currently guaranteed a berserker unless a lot more people sign up for it. I really don't know how the Berserkers are actually allocated though, but I'm guessing it prefers to give everyone one first, then 2, then 3(but the people that got 3 zerks last year were 2 from risk and a berserker roll due to not having enough to guarantee 3 zerks?). Wonder if there'll be any other huge donations before it that might force us into guaranteed 2 or 3 berserkers(or even 4 for Chaos)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 13, 2015, 11:22:20 PM
Good Physical Damage right there. Once Rapid Fire is learned, it's going to start becoming easier.


My strategy for this would be simple.

Make Bartz be Ranger once I get it to learn Rapid Fire ASAP. Before getting Dancer, I'd also make Faris one. Once I get Dancer, Faris would be probably be either Monk or Dancer. Once Bartz learns Rapid Fire, switch him back to Monk(Highest Strength Stat + Highest Strength Class) and give him Rapid Fire to punch things to death. Faris stays as Ranger for Rapid Fire since Chicken Knife is best on her(Best combination of Strength and Agility). Alternatively I could just give Galuf/Krile Ranger to learn Rapid Fire as well for Dancer since relying on RNG Sword Dance could get annoying, and Rapid Fire does ignore defense/evasion as well. Lenna stays as Red Mage cause lolRedMage.


Only way that team could get even better is if it was Mystic Knight instead of Red Mage, and Chemist instead of Dancer.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 14, 2015, 03:38:07 AM
um excuse me there is only One True Dancer and it is Dancer Bartz :colbert: we have to be fashionable of course.

For a hot second the team in the lead was actually what I rolled with last year so that would have been really cool to see run and see where I floundered about but it was not meant to be.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 14, 2015, 08:06:19 AM
um excuse me there is only One True Dancer and it is Dancer Bartz :colbert: we have to be fashionaaabluh of course.
What's that?  Dancer Bartz?

Don't mind if I do~
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 14, 2015, 08:47:09 PM
yeah that $2500 donation out of nowhere just

aaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 15, 2015, 03:24:33 AM
I'm gonna wait and see what jobs I roll before I change my avatar, so y'all are gonna have to wait. :V (100% pro-dancer Bartz though.)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 15, 2015, 07:50:26 PM
I'm gonna wait and see what jobs I roll before I change my avatar, so y'all are gonna have to wait. :V (100% pro-dancer Bartz though.)
Same. I'm not sure if I wanna do all four sprites at once, one sprite, or cycle through all the sprites. All I know is that I can't wait until next week I wanna play CHAOS mode so bad ahhhhh
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 18, 2015, 04:31:27 AM
So this is a thing I should have done last year but didn't. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxL4oEeg7BU)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 18, 2015, 05:49:55 AM
So this is a thing I should have done last year but didn't. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxL4oEeg7BU)
But you eventually did it, and that's what matters. :D Good job.

is secretly hoping to get Mystic Knight this year
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 21, 2015, 02:08:55 PM
Just a reminder that The Run starts in 2 hours. http://www.twitch.tv/rpglimitbreak will feature the four-way as Puwexil, DragonDarch, eLmaGus, and HappySquid speedrun the game with a Monk/Red Mage/Ranger/Dancer party, full of Legendary Weapon collecting and PIANO FLEX ᕦ(? Д?)ᕤ because donation incentives.

Speaking of, the overall donation goal of $7,500 has already been reached. Currenly sitting on 758 Berserkers and 568 players taking BERSERKER RISK.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 21, 2015, 03:22:52 PM
:getdown: FIESTA GET HYPE :getdown:
We officially start after the run ends IIRC oh boy oh boy!

Another bit of ~Fiesta math~  as we wait : 0.21% chance of 4zerkers4byblos which is only slightly lower than rolling 3of a kind in Chaos Mode.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 21, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
4 Berserkers vs Byblos isn't too bad. Liquid Flame and Sandworm sucks, but Byblos can be dealt with.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 21, 2015, 03:46:50 PM
That made for a better looking tagline :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 21, 2015, 04:51:35 PM
Just a reminder that The Run starts in 2 hours. http://www.twitch.tv/rpglimitbreak will feature the four-way as Puwexil, DragonDarch, eLmaGus, and HappySquid speedrun the game with a Monk/Red Mage/Ranger/Dancer party, full of Legendary Weapon collecting and PIANO FLEX ᕦ(? Д?)ᕤ because donation incentives.

If nothing else DragonDarch's "strategies" are shaping up to be a hilarious clusterfuck again so could be worth tuning in just for the schadenfreude.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 21, 2015, 05:00:31 PM
Counted 142 Berserker Riskers so far that are on Normal or Team 750. No idea if anyone else will register for it at the moment, but I doubt it'll change from last year where Normal and 750 could only get 1 from it. I'm sure more riskers will register though which will throw the odds off a bit.


That means we can eliminate those 142 players from having 2 Berserkers. And outside of that, I'm too lazy to check what the odds are for the people on No 750(since I think that also allows multiple Berserkers currently 12 riskers there), Random, or Chaos would be to get a guaranteed second. We obviously still have the random chance of rolling some, but I'm mainly interested in the Berserker Risk odds because a random roll or rolls would be extremely low.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 21, 2015, 06:37:52 PM
If nothing else DragonDarch's "strategies" are shaping up to be a hilarious clusterfuck again so could be worth tuning in just for the schadenfreude.

Faris surviving with like 10 hit points vs Garula elicited cheering at our little run watching session I must say.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 21, 2015, 10:26:53 PM
Faris surviving with like 10 hit points vs Garula elicited cheering at our little run watching session I must say.
And then later she survives with like 7 HP (on elmagus' end) when fighting the
four crystals.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 22, 2015, 02:19:00 AM
1 hour and 41 minutes till the start of the Fiesta at the time of this post. In terms of the run, eLmaGus finished at a time of 9:15:24, Puwexil finished at 9:25:12, DragonDarch is at Neo Exdeath, and HappySquid...is grinding in the Undersea Trench. Had bad luck with Exdeath in World 2, and Antlion.


Edit: And Dragondarch finished with a time of 9:38:02. HappySquid still in the Trench.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 22, 2015, 02:47:50 AM
Quote
FF5ForFutures ‏@FF5ForFutures  4m4 minutes ago
WILL CUT OFF BERSERKER RISK DONATIONS IN 18 MINUTES! GET THEM LAST DONATIONS IN!

That's at the top of the hour, for reference.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 22, 2015, 03:14:53 AM
Quote
DISTRIBUTING BERSERKERS. PLEASE WAIT.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 22, 2015, 03:34:59 AM
IT BEGINS.

I DREW BEASTMASTER FOR THE THIRD TIME IN A ROW.

Also that's Fire so we 4zerk for a bit. Came close to 4zerk4sandworm but thankfully I'll have Beastmaster to save me.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 22, 2015, 03:41:22 AM
JOBS ARE UP

Got me a Mystic Knight gotta freelancer my way through some of these suckers oops.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Stuffman on June 22, 2015, 03:49:00 AM
I casts the spells that makes the peoples fall down!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 22, 2015, 03:53:13 AM
I AM SAFE FROM THE BERSERKERS FOREVER. First class: Ninja.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 22, 2015, 03:57:02 AM
Mystic Knight first too!  Gonna break some rods for the water crystal because I can, aww yes.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 22, 2015, 04:04:03 AM
I wanna at least stream most of world 1 (probably not gonna try to do the whole run, avoid burnout) so I'm holding off on looking at my first job so I can react when I start.

What I do know:
Quote
Me: I'm not gonna start until tomorrow afternoon 'cause I kinda wanna stream it
Me: not sure if I wanna peek at my wind job or wait and be able to react to all of them on stream :V
Shim: I checked it
Shim: heh
Me: how much am I going to love and/or hate everything
Shim: heheheheheh
Shim: hahahahahahahaaa
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 22, 2015, 04:24:31 AM
Warning Chaos Riskers: the Chaos job reshuffle does not necessarily guarantee your safety if you roll a later job first.

[attach=1]

(Not my jobs, someone from the thread on SA.)

Granted I mean, Riskers know they're guaranteed at least one with a good chance at two by now. And non-Riskers are safe if they roll a late job first as far as I can tell. A late job first miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight indicate having rolled only one 'zerker for Risk, though? Gilgabot probably assigns them to Water first.

edit: wow okay attaching as expandable thumbnail makes the thumbnail really tiny. CLICK PICTURE TO EMBIGGEN.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 22, 2015, 04:55:11 AM
Also got Mystic Knight first. That makes for an easy 3 boss kill run.


Edit: Water job is Berserker(obviously). Next thing to do is to grind 100 ABP so I can equip Mystic Knight with !Berserk so that I don't even have to play the random battles  :)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 22, 2015, 05:20:51 AM
My chaos registration has given me... Berserker!
How does this work? When do I start using it?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on June 22, 2015, 05:33:33 AM
(http://i.gyazo.com/a321370805acd30fa327fb6deef490c0.png)

MY REDEMPTION FOR FAILING CLASSIC LAST YEAR BEGINS
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 22, 2015, 05:42:44 AM
My chaos registration has given me... Berserker!
How does this work? When do I start using it?
As soon as you actually have it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 22, 2015, 06:26:03 AM
So my first class is Time Mage.

I'VE NEVER EVEN USED THIS CLASS BEFORE.

[also in before I roll Dancer for the third year in a row]
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 22, 2015, 06:45:26 AM
[also in before I roll Dancer for the third year in a row]

If that happens to me with Summoner I'm just gonna job fair it. It's so good but varietyplz. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 22, 2015, 07:24:21 AM
I got Blue Mage for my first two jobs, lol. I would Job Fair one of them if it weren't for the fact that having two dudes that could potentially cast White Wind would be very very useful. I'll see how I do if/when I reach the Earth Crystal.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 22, 2015, 08:05:03 AM
I got Blue Mage for my first two jobs, lol. I would Job Fair one of them if it weren't for the fact that having two dudes that could potentially cast White Wind would be very very useful. I'll see how I do if/when I reach the Earth Crystal.

You're not in a Natural run, you only need one blue mage to have four dudes who could potentially cast white wind with a little work. :V

's still probably alright though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 22, 2015, 09:58:29 AM
Bwaaaah? (http://fourjobfiesta.com/players.php?player=Areanre)

Alright. I'll deal.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 22, 2015, 12:26:38 PM
Poking through the player list:

Current 3zerkers and 4th jobs: 3 with Dancer, 4 with unknown 4th, 1 with Samurai, 1 with Geomancer, 1 with Dragoon, 1 with Bard, 1 with Geomancer
Current 4zerkers: One (Everhate)
Players who got starting Zerker... without BERSERKER RISK: 29. Haven't seen any multi-zerkers for this group yet but many are unrevealed.

Fun Fact: The twitter accounts "givemeberserker" and "givemeberzerker"? Both of them are in the 3zerker category!

I'll probably look through for multi-jobs when more people unlock their classes. A quick glance does reveal a two pair (Summoner/Samurai) at least.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 22, 2015, 01:10:00 PM
STOP POSTING GO TO SLEEP PEOPLE JEEZ.
Faris surviving with like 10 hit points vs Garula elicited cheering at our little run watching session I must say.
Seriously that was a real heart stopper. It was a dyed in the wool do or die predicament.
1 hour and 41 minutes till the start of the Fiesta at the time of this post. In terms of the run, eLmaGus finished at a time of 9:15:24, Puwexil finished at 9:25:12, DragonDarch is at Neo Exdeath, and HappySquid...is grinding in the Undersea Trench. Had bad luck with Exdeath in World 2, and Antlion.


Edit: And Dragondarch finished with a time of 9:38:02. HappySquid still in the Trench.
Squid must've gotten hit real hard since it was a good long while until they really caught up. I was in bed before they finished.
Warning Chaos Riskers: the Chaos job reshuffle does not necessarily guarantee your safety if you roll a later job first.
The Chaos thing has thrown me a bit. So the first job displayed is associated with the first crystal that has a job you'll be playing with? Are the next 3 jobs all over the place, potentially resulting in a situation where a fire crystal job may be displayed as the earth crystal job? At least, it seems that way with berserker risk in place. Whatevs. I have Knight and Mystic Knight to start and will roll the rest when I get home. Speaking of rolling, I'll be rolling over a lot of things, it seems. Physical and magical prowess are already set and if a healing/utility class is in the cards watch out.
(http://i.gyazo.com/a321370805acd30fa327fb6deef490c0.png)

MY REDEMPTION FOR FAILING CLASSIC LAST YEAR BEGINS
REDEMPTION! That's a perfectly legit party for a FF1 run and should be able to plow through the game without much in the way of issues.
So my first class is Time Mage.

I'VE NEVER EVEN USED THIS CLASS BEFORE.

[also in before I roll Dancer for the third year in a row]
Time mage fills the status buff/debuff niche all too well. It will be worth looking up just how many baddies are vulnerable to the nifty little list of tricks time mages have.
I got Blue Mage for my first two jobs, lol. I would Job Fair one of them if it weren't for the fact that having two dudes that could potentially cast White Wind would be very very useful. I'll see how I do if/when I reach the Earth Crystal.
Blue mage really takes some scoping out and planning around. White Wind is real useful but requires access to confuse abilities to get and it first appears at the end of the second world. The more you know about blue's magic spells, where they're located, and the limitations that come with them, the happier you'll be.
Poking through the player list:

Current 3zerkers and 4th jobs: 3 with Dancer, 4 with unknown 4th, 1 with Samurai, 1 with Geomancer, 1 with Dragoon, 1 with Bard, 1 with Geomancer
Current 4zerkers: One (Everhate)
Players who got starting Zerker... without BERSERKER RISK: 29. Haven't seen any multi-zerkers for this group yet but many are unrevealed.

Fun Fact: The twitter accounts "givemeberserker" and "givemeberzerker"? Both of them are in the 3zerker category!
godspeedmooncat.png
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 22, 2015, 01:11:34 PM
And all those with 4th job Earth Crystal still get 4zerkers4sandworm welp.
I just realized this is the first year I actually have elemental magic outside of Holy at the end.  Fire for Byblos?  DON'T MIND IF I DO  :flamingv:

Also hey Reddyne guess what class my sister rolled first you've got your work cut out Obi-Wan Kenobi'ing  :V :V :V :V :V :V

EDIT CAUSE YOU WERE POSTING
The Chaos thing has thrown me a bit. So the first job displayed is associated with the first crystal that has a job you'll be playing with? Are the next 3 jobs all over the place, potentially resulting in a situation where a fire crystal job may be displayed as the earth crystal job?
Yes and I don't think so but maybe?  We know the system will prioritize the distribution to minimize freelancer use at the start, so like I know I will not be getting any Wind Crystal jobs, and just from scrolling down the list it seems that ~chaos mode~ will give the rest of the job assignments at the earliest possible time which differs from the standard random.  In your case you could very well get a Fire Crystal job for your 4th as long as you get either Water/Fire next.  Or you could get Chemist next and just roflstomp your way to a 3 boss clear either/or.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 22, 2015, 01:21:13 PM
And all those with 4th job Earth Crystal still get 4zerkers4sandworm welp.
I just realized this is the first year I actually have elemental magic outside of Holy at the end.  Fire for Byblos?  DON'T MIND IF I DO  :flamingv:

Also hey Reddyne guess what class my sister rolled first you've got your work cut out Obi-Wan Kenobi'ing  :V :V :V :V :V :V
OH
NO


Her first (serious) year in 4JF during her first (serious) run through the game and she's got the only class that requires enough study time to qualify as an undergraduate minor?! Why?!
EDIT CAUSE YOU WERE POSTINGYes and I don't think so but maybe?  We know the system will prioritize the distribution to minimize freelancer use at the start, so like I know I will not be getting any Wind Crystal jobs, and just from scrolling down the list it seems that ~chaos mode~ will give the rest of the job assignments at the earliest possible time which differs from the standard random.  In your case you could very well get a Fire Crystal job for your 4th as long as you get either Water/Fire next.  Or you could get Chemist next and just roflstomp your way to a 3 boss clear either/or.
If a chemist is next there may be no excuse to not do a THREE job fiesta.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on June 22, 2015, 01:27:56 PM
Let's see here. Knight => Geomancer => Dragoon, which basically meant I went all the way to the fire crystal with a four Knight team and chopped up everything. So now it's two Knights and two Geos for most of the rest of the first world... Which means I have to deal with several bosses that will laugh at the combination. Oh well at least everyone's controllable...

Plus, if I can get a rod or staff user as my last job, I can take on Shinryu and win - steal a trio of dragon lances, give my non-knights Equip Spears, low-HP everyone, berserk the dragon, and then go to town while my Knight !Guards the whole time. But that's only if I get a rod/staff user.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Lobby on June 22, 2015, 02:29:30 PM
OH
NO


Her first (serious) year in 4JF during her first (serious) run through the game and she's got the only class that requires enough study time to qualify as an undergraduate minor?! Why?!

OK I know this is serious business because of your line breaks and font size AND COLOR changes. 
:getdown:

It's karmic revenge by the universe because I've been complaining about blue mage in other games. Well, perhaps I can skate by with just a few classes in Blue Mage Studies because I probably will flunk out of college if I have to major in it.  :fail:

EDIT: OK I just realized you wrote minor and not major so that already changes my expectations. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 22, 2015, 02:48:35 PM
Mystic knight, Berserker, Chemist

Thanks Gilgabot. I definitely appreciate you making Omega almost completely free instead of the luck based BS it was looking like. I wonder what my Earth Crystal roll will be.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 22, 2015, 03:03:25 PM
OK I know this is serious business because of your line breaks and font size AND COLOR changes. 
:getdown:

It's karmic revenge by the universe because I've been complaining about blue mage in other games. Well, perhaps I can skate by with just a few classes in Blue Mage Studies because I probably will flunk out of college if I have to major in it.  :fail:

EDIT: OK I just realized you wrote minor and not major so that already changes my expectations. :V
The long and short of Big Blues is that they are a versatile class that requires a lot of GREAT WORK to max out their abilities. For your intents and purposes, this will most likely boil down to me giving you a handful of good skills worth hunting out and letting you pick and choose from the ones that may or may not come in useful. There are study materials that are readily available, too. It may be worthwhile to take a peek at your other classes to see what skills you will have available to you.

But yes, the first class in your draw takes more work, requires more patience, and needs more understanding of game mechanics than all of the other classes in the game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 22, 2015, 03:50:40 PM
Mystic Knight, Berserker, Chemist, Berserker.

At least this is more reasonable for Omega than my knight/Berserker/Ninja/Berserker from last year.


Have used autobattle(Berserker job or Berserk ability on all 4 members) so far on Karnak Escape, Ifrit, Crayclaw, Adamantoise, Soul Cannon, and Archaeaevis.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on June 22, 2015, 05:43:34 PM
And now my full team is revealed: Knight, Geomancer, Dragoon, Dancer. There goes Shinryu, probably. Also only one AoE character and it's randomized... great singletarget damage, though.
...Will have to rely on items to heal, but, hey, Equip Ribbons to take care of some of the status effects..
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 22, 2015, 05:47:07 PM
... fuck you Gilgabot.

[attach=1]

(Job faired for a reroll.)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 22, 2015, 06:39:24 PM
Gotten up to (and defeated) Byblos right now.

LiquidFlame suuuuuuuucks as 4zerk.  Level grind all you want, unless you grind to the point of three-shotting him or something you have to hope he doesn't go into human form a ton or Blaze keeps happening until death.

And then Beastmaster happened and Byblos died to a Page 64 release (~1k damage!) and a Whip paralyze. Next job is Dragoon (going to remain faithful to the rules and not reveal 4th job although I'm predicting Berserker at this point) so uh.

Good news: I can fix the Berserker's speed via Equip Whip.
Bad news: I'm going to have to do a lot of job shuffling because the only other thing I should even bother transferring right now is !Catch. Might run triple Beastmaster and see if I can find a decent AP grind until I have at least Equip Whips on all before going for my Earth jobs.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on June 22, 2015, 06:51:34 PM
Joining this Fiesta. So far has been so-so. Garula party wiped me once.

Jobs so far: Monk and Time Mage. Gonna be hard without a healer on duty...

Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 22, 2015, 06:55:48 PM
After a check, it appears triangles' observation regarding ~CHAOS~ is correct. Your first job, regardless of which crystal it is associated with, is listed under the wind crystal job on the Players page on 4JF's site by default. This may be any job but will be the first crystal at which changing from freelancer to any other job will become necessary. Inputting commands for the water, fire, and earth crystal jobs will result in the rest of the party's classes being displayed. These jobs will proceed in a pre-selected order from wind crystal to earth crystal depending upon which jobs you rolled. Hence, if your first class is a wind crystal class, the next class in line may be any from wind, water, fire, and earth and will be sent out in that order. If your first class is a fire crystal class, the next class in line may be a fire or earth crystal class. The only exception to this rule seems to be berserkers, which can be rolled after receiving fire/earth classes. However, this seems to be limited to BERSERKER RISK anyhow.

In short, if playing a chaos run, go to the first crystal with which you have a job and roll until you get a job from the next crystal over. If playing BERSERKER RISK, you may just want to put them all up there as BERSERKERS are everywhere.

Edit: It may be worth linking Axel's successes to one player named DraknarEverhate, who is so angsty that s/he drew 4 bearserkers for a chaos + BERSERKER RISK run. It may be a name that is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 22, 2015, 07:15:02 PM
Okay. So my party rollout is Berserker, Berserker, Red Mage, Samurai.

Samurai won the game right there. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 22, 2015, 07:40:26 PM
But yes, the first class in your draw takes more work, requires more patience, and needs more understanding of game mechanics than all of the other classes in the game.
I'd argue Chemist or Beastmaster are up there too.  But yes.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 22, 2015, 07:51:37 PM
Joining this Fiesta. So far has been so-so. Garula party wiped me once.

Jobs so far: Monk and Time Mage. Gonna be hard without a healer on duty...
Time Mage can equip the Healing Staff you can grab from Tycoon Castle so you are actually ok in that regard!  That's the starting line up I had last year it's not too shabby.

In short, if playing a chaos run, go to the first crystal with which you have a job and roll until you get a job from the next crystal over. If playing BERSERKER RISK, you may just want to put them all up there as BERSERKERS are everywhere.
I think you don't change over to your assigned Water/Fire/Earth Crystal classes even if you physically can due to early crystal double-dipping until you clear Garula / Karnak Castle /Archeoavis respectively.  At least that's how I plan on rolling. 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 22, 2015, 07:57:39 PM
Monk Time Mage is good synergy since now you can give the Monk Haste and he can use the Kaiser Knuckle to buff his damage up.



Got Summoner for my first job. Gonna start streaming my Fiesta so yeah.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 22, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tXNxf5u.png)

well this is going to be fun

if i don't draw like samurai on the fire crystal I'm so fucked
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 22, 2015, 07:58:40 PM
I'd argue Chemist or Beastmaster are up there too.  But yes.
Those would be the other two who could make a run for it, definitely.

I feel like I've gotten so much and so little done at work today! Argh, so excite for when I get back home! The TRULY last touches on the thief Bartz and then a brand new 4JF run!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 22, 2015, 08:03:32 PM
So where are people getting these sprites from, exactly? I'd better prepare something for the arrival of the TIME FORCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNmV2_uhPFI).

EDIT: Never mind, I found one ><

EDIT 2: My third class is Dragoon! Meaning I get to play the rest of world 1 with time mages and geomancers.

I am going to break so many fucking rods you have no idea
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on June 22, 2015, 09:59:07 PM
Pssst, friend of mine (MotK's very own Yugian) right now is streaming for FJF right now. Why not drop in and give him a big ol' hello?

http://www.twitch.tv/yugianbushido
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 22, 2015, 10:06:03 PM
TIME FORCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNmV2_uhPFI).
Time for...TIME FORCE! (jumps on the bandwagon)

On that note I totes need to get a blue mage sprite for myself (Task completed. Blue, blue.)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 22, 2015, 11:15:16 PM
And I'm done with the first run. Will submit the pics to rk later.


Did Catastrophe, Halicarnnasus, Twintanita, Genji Shield Gilgamesh(which I got with Thief knife), Shinryu, and Neo Exdeath all without saving in between any. I didn't even bother to fight Necrophobe. The only one that almost went bad from those was Shinryu since he was hitting despite Blind, Elven Mantles Guardian Daggers on some characters. I even forgot to grab the Magic Lamp, but I just use Dark Elixir on the part that you'd normally Odin with the lamp and hit first try(thanks Chemist level boosts), then hit Dark Gas on the Physical part since I forgot to keep a Dragon Fang for Neo to use Dark Sigh.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 22, 2015, 11:21:12 PM
So far I've got Mystic Knight and Summoner, so this is basically easy mode.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 22, 2015, 11:57:59 PM
Yup it's doublezerker. Plan is to run bother Zerkers with Equip Whips to transfer the agility over, and run Beastmaster skills on the other two since bleh.

(Funny thing is, because :beastmaster: I can still berserk Shinryuu. I think I'd have to steal a ton of anti-dragon to make the fight sane but yeah)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 23, 2015, 12:40:58 AM
Did check my job fair reroll when it went through, got mystic knight. I'm alright with this! I had it last year but not the year before, and last year I didn't finish anyway (despite an amazing team).
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 23, 2015, 01:10:02 AM
Welp, got my fire job.

Red Mage. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 23, 2015, 01:10:27 AM
It sucks when your PS2 Controller decide it wants to do random inputs when it shouldn't.



Time to learn how to VBA on Keyboard again.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 23, 2015, 01:22:07 AM
Welp, got my fire job.

Red Mage. :V

#4water4lyfe? :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 23, 2015, 03:11:52 AM
It sucks when your PS2 Controller decide it wants to do random inputs when it shouldn't.

Time to learn how to VBA on Keyboard again.
This is why I used the keyboard for RPGs on VBA, they usually don't require much dexterity. That being said, the emulator does like to spaz out and not accept my inputs (it keeps thinking one button is pressed or something), forcing me to reset the game. :fail: It happens a lot with controllers too...Maybe I should make use of that SNES controller I got for Christmas.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 23, 2015, 10:41:30 AM
The controller was acting up even on other games as well. I just had to shake the damn thing and I got random inputs.



Time to find me another one.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 23, 2015, 12:52:08 PM
[also in before I roll Dancer for the third year in a row]
(http://i.imgur.com/RjPtzAe.png)

I KNEW IT

I FELT IT IN MY FUCKING BONES

(Seriously though the run should probably get a lot easier for me now that I have an actual source of physical damage)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 23, 2015, 01:14:37 PM
First progress update should be out later today.
So far I've got Mystic Knight and Summoner, so this is basically easy mode.
Welp, got my fire job.

Red Mage. :V
Game over, yeeeeeeaaaaaaaah!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on June 23, 2015, 03:55:20 PM
Up to just before the ship fight (aka Gilgamesh and Enkidu). The only real problems were the Puloboros fight (ugh Self-destruct) and the Big Bridge Gilgamesh battle (getting stomped on with a party that can't do something about his second phase stinks).

Sol Cannon, which i thought would be a problem, only took two tries, I went and got one Angel Ring in between those two, put it on one knight, and then killed the launchers before they could Old my other Knight (so max damage from two-handed Coral Swords), with Geomancers tossing Elixirs around after Surge Cannon blasts.

...And first-tried the other one I thought would be problematic - Archaeoavis, but being able to !Gaia with nothing but Wind Slash the first four forms and then pound on the last with my Knights worked well. I think I'm good until the Crystal Guardians (Atomos? I'll use the sleep sword until its added effect procs, and then pound him with !Gaia).
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on June 23, 2015, 06:15:39 PM
Need help.

Rolled a Ranger, that means I'm stuck until I defeat Byblos.
How do I plan to defeat him with Monk/Time Mage team? Breaking rods are a bit pricey...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 23, 2015, 06:33:33 PM
Pretty sure it only takes two Flame Rods to kill him. If you really don't want to break rods you can throw Slow and Demi on him until he's slowed and has taken a couple of Demi hits and then use !Focus attacks to finish him.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 23, 2015, 06:43:10 PM
If you're worried about rod money, the forest next to Karnak gives a pretty easy mob (Wild Nakks) that drop about 280 gil per fight. So you can afford a new rod every 3 fights or so.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 23, 2015, 06:53:06 PM
Wild Nakks are sitting ducks for !Kick since it'll hit all of them at once. Having a full party do it together will mean they should only get a few attacks off I wager? It should be pretty pain-free grinding.

It k bby Byblos seems to be pesty for a whole slew of people because of how hard he can hit. Roast and toast 'im.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 23, 2015, 07:11:03 PM
HALLO and welcome to triangles' 4JF adventure!  I avoided rolling a Wind Crystal job, so we will be starting this party with Team No Job Siesta!
(seriously this has been kind of boring I don't know how you kids on Natural do this)
(http://i.imgur.com/GQyO2BB.png)
HALLO?

(http://i.imgur.com/xDe7j43.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/KbQvgY1.png)
Never change, Gramps  Never change.

I actually went and bought some sharper, pointy-er sticks before heading into the Wind Shrine as this is the first year it made economic sense to do so (previous years were Monk and White Mage starts so those would be off the table very soon) This allowed me to take down Wing Raptor before he could go into his silly duck and cover mode.  Oops on taking a screenshot in time, this is a reoccurring theme.
(http://i.imgur.com/WqOOK5Y.png)
No chocobro don't rub it in :(

However also unlike previous years, I forgot to grab something resembling a decent stock of potions along with my stash of pointy sticks and fashionable leather shirts and shields.  This may come to bite me in the Butz later on.
(http://i.imgur.com/NXy9r4U.png)
Karlabos will always be kind of a chump it's still PRESS A PRESS A PRESS A HIT SOME DIRECTION BUTTONS THEN PRESS A PRESS A HOORAY TIME TO RAISE YOUR ARMS IN THE AIR but he was being quite the pesty jerk and targeting HALLO? most of the time. How rude.

(http://lparchive.org/Final-Fantasy-V-(by-Mega64)/Images/1-xY1STXD.png)
Yo Fryman this boat is pretty sweet but none of you better crash it into some frickin' haunted zombie death moat.

(http://i.imgur.com/moAYpFy.png)
Damnit Meatwad.

Ship Graveyard wasn't too shabby, everything dies pretty quickly to the PRESS A PRESS A PRESS A strategy.
(http://i.imgur.com/jlYElSE.png)
Battle commands I miss you  :ohdear:
In retrospect I realize I forgot to pick up the flail, but I don't think it's too big a loss as Mystic Knight can't use it, and ~who knows~ what class I get next.

(http://i.imgur.com/X38pqSB.png)
bby no, sleep in the bed not over it.

And then comes Siren.
(http://i.imgur.com/GWfyU4E.png)
Lucky for us silence don't stop the stabby times.  This was a less than smooth battle, as she turned on Protect which leads to Team Why Isn't There An Auto Attack Feature Yet? doing peanuts for damage and as alluded before I didn't have too many potions to fling at her zombie form oops.  Faris wound up kicking the bucket and Galuf was in pretty bad shape at the end of the day so I hoofed it alllll the way back to Faris' boat to heal because I don't know why I didn't just leave and use the tent ok  :( 

(http://i.imgur.com/lloDw5D.png)
Great work friend!  Looking forward to winding up with Bard for the 3rd year running!

(http://i.imgur.com/gdSU1bV.png)
Next time for Team Unemployed Swords and Boards (hopefully streaming tonight??) I'll be trucking up North Mountain and beating up a dumb elephant and then hooray I'll actually get some options in battles :toot:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 23, 2015, 07:30:22 PM
Need help.

Rolled a Ranger, that means I'm stuck until I defeat Byblos.
How do I plan to defeat him with Monk/Time Mage team? Breaking rods are a bit pricey...
This was my lineup last year and I'm not sure I wound up rod breaking.  The good chaps who already replied got you covered on where to get the moneys if you do want to channel your inner arsonist. !Focus on the Monks and hopefully you have the Heal Staff and keep your mages on support/heal duty if you want to just punch punch straight up.  Dischord can get kind of nasty if it hits your physical attackers though, I think that's the main hiccup you'd have if you don't break rods.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 23, 2015, 07:35:17 PM
we have reached world 2

DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS

(http://i.imgur.com/8nxIzLK.png)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 23, 2015, 08:08:23 PM
So I sent in something to start a new Chaos run. Saw on the player page that i rolled Time Mage then immediately sent a #Natural because even in the worst case scenario, I can still quickleak Omega to death.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 23, 2015, 10:29:57 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/R0okwfJ.png)

It's the most wonderful time of the year! I did enjoy the write-ups for my half-baked LP of last year's 4JF and I thoroughly enjoy seeing how people are doing during theirs, so I figured I'd do it again. This particular run is a Chaos Natural run, so 4 permanent jobs picked out of a hat. Time to flex that half-baked FF5 know-how! :fail:

(http://i.imgur.com/AZTGcX8.png)

Butts was the preferred choice for a name and was actually requested but I remembered that I had used it for my first playthrough on the GBA version. After some pondering, I folded and just went with Monty. There will be plenty of weird knights, killer rabbits, and questing for shrubbery to merit the name during this playthrough.

(http://i.imgur.com/JTf8MNs.jpg)

My first encounter with the party? A back attack. This bodes well for everything to follow, surely.

(http://i.imgur.com/A3V5xEw.jpg)

...And the same thing happens two fights later. Truly I will not get a surprise ganking that will cause me to lose 90 minutes of progress somewhere.

(http://i.imgur.com/KyQeFnZ.jpg)

Even in town! Thanks Goblama.

(http://i.imgur.com/SQKop0s.jpg)

Gramps gets some offhand treatment just to be different.

(http://i.imgur.com/gccWqwy.jpg)

Up all night to get funky or however it goes? Hey you kids heard of Smashmouth? I hear they're pretty radical.

(http://i.imgur.com/XcMRR8A.png)

Halfway up the wind temple I get a surprise elixir drop! I had no idea this was a thing! Should I get a bad draw for healers, I may wind up back here before world 2 shenanigans start.

(http://i.imgur.com/l9u40PM.jpg)

By the way, Birdie McRaptor kicked the bucket before it got to use its defensive stance. I was thinking of how it was part of a string of introductory bosses in Final Fantasy's ATB era which would enter a phase where they would guard and counterattack if struck. A party equipped with 4 broadsword filleted it before it did so. Oh well.

(http://i.imgur.com/zJSImg6.jpg)

Why do they not put these things on the bottom floor and why do they build these places as empty mazes filled with random critters anyhow?

(http://i.imgur.com/jSmgbgl.jpg)

NO BOKO YOU CONDESCENDING JERK I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR MORE THAN 15 YEARS DON'T ACT LIKE I WAS BORN YESTERDAY.

(http://i.imgur.com/TE1ACk7.jpg)

Anyway, Monty's a knight this time around so I swap him over. You'll notice he is wearing the chromatically superior red armor. Good to know that I have both a powerhouse and a tank right out of the gate. Knights may be a bit dull but hoo daddy is the reliability a blessing after last year's Team RNG.

(http://i.imgur.com/AOg4hRp.jpg)

Zok's hobbies include doting on people that remind him of his grandkids, being a minor plot character in JRPGs, and participating in the high jump in the Olympics despite being 87 years old. Good on you, pops.

(http://i.imgur.com/zyrge8G.jpg)

I forget many things and one of them is if he has anything in his house and then I realized that JRPGs have trained me to rob every NPC blind every chance I get. This stuff's dangerous, kids.

(http://i.imgur.com/oHcrPDk.jpg)

A sea creature using Feeler on a female party member? Man, this is just like one of my Japanese animes.

(http://i.imgur.com/7BBGzAY.png)

Now this is just like one of my Japanese animes conventions, except the reverse.

(http://i.imgur.com/FclS0m3.jpg)

JFC guys it's okay you don't have to feed me these things. I get one more later, too. I swear I don't ever remember this being a thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/7uT5vnF.jpg)

Don't forget! I often do!

(http://i.imgur.com/cnibLi0.jpg)

Siren proves to be a bit of a bother simply because I had forgotten that she uses poison. Here she's using Silence for reasons beyond anyone's knowledge. Thanks, old AI!

(http://i.imgur.com/aCQBKJW.jpg)

She doesn't even get a second chance to go undead. A single minute of fast-forwarded grinding just prior to this is enough to get a couple of levels at this stage, making fights like this trivial.

(http://i.imgur.com/LHY7Ic3.jpg)

Onward, ho! Such is the fate of Team Press A to Win. Join us next time on the continuing adventures of Team Press A to Win 2: Press A Harder or The Knights Who !Say Ni.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 23, 2015, 10:55:20 PM
It's beautiful.

(http://i.imgur.com/VzvNpCE.png)

Red Mage is the weakest link by leaps and bounds and even then oh well it's a dude who can heal up between battles without needing to stock up on items too badly and can wield rods/staves (Power Staff to 'zerk things like Omniscient, dual wield rods for rod-boosted rod breaks to make up for the lower magic stat a bit, etc.)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 23, 2015, 11:16:56 PM
Grats Arashi on winning the game :toot: :toot:

I'll be streaming in a few minutes (need to fiddle with settings and such)  come check it out!
http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 24, 2015, 01:39:07 AM
Seeing as I won't be playing FFV for a while (mostly due to the heat), I decided to roll my Earth job and end my curiosity once and for all...

<ArashiKurobara> welp, Lem just got a pretty guaranteed three-boss clear.
<ArashiKurobara> :V
<ArashiKurobara> for FJF.
<Dragoshi> What's his job setup?
<ArashiKurobara> Blue/Blue/Time/Chemist
<Dragoshi> .
<Dragoshi> Jesus.

Forget Blue Magic 101, I need to take CHEMISTRY! (plays the Bill Nye theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDN7M0J3HXc))
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on June 24, 2015, 04:36:03 AM
Defeated Byblos without breaking rods at all, even though I've bought some rods :v.

The pain of Byblos is his Dischord, that would drastically lower the damage of the Monks. My Time Mage is busy whacking staff on the team and almost no room for Demi/Gravity.

With that, Fire-Powered Ship is secured, and off to Crescent to claim my Ranger.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 24, 2015, 04:37:11 AM
welp, got my earth job






a second red mage

#watertribe
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 24, 2015, 02:04:07 PM
... oh right, something I should have mentioned: I'm streaming all of my Fiesta stuff at www.twitch.tv/smashy

World 2 now, picked up those Chain Whips and now my Whipzerker is doing a consistent 800+ damage per hit. Not going to have a concrete schedule so I'll probably just post in here every time I get ready to stream.

(EDIT: Live again as of 4:30 PM EST)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on June 24, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
Slowly making my way forward, and made a hilarious mistake and had everyone at level 15 while doing the Library of the Ancients.

Page 64 (or was it 128?) used Level 5 Death.
Party wipes. I had just beat Ifrit too. That's kind of a disappointing way to game over for the first time in a run. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on June 25, 2015, 12:15:58 AM
Slowly making my way forward, and made a hilarious mistake and had everyone at level 15 while doing the Library of the Ancients.

Page 64 (or was it 128?) used Level 5 Death.
Party wipes. I had just beat Ifrit too. That's kind of a disappointing way to game over for the first time in a run. :V

I was level 15 too when I first enter the library. Suddenly LV5 Death from Page 64. Party wipe. I immediately grind one level afterwards.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 25, 2015, 12:23:30 AM
I wiped to level 5 death.

Then I said "screw it" and just went through the library anyway :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 25, 2015, 01:03:10 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/6q9NNrt.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes doing what they do best - robbing people blind despite not having a thief. Hopefully they'll understand since none of it will matter if the heroes of the story kick the bucket.

(http://i.imgur.com/ghekJZS.jpg)

Thank you for that use tidbit of info, random NPC lady! I'm sure two thirds of the town will not parrot the same info now that you've said this.

(http://i.imgur.com/BFP2tKi.jpg)

The party learns something important about the Knight. But what does it mean? If Dark Souls taught me anything, it's "try using both hands" in conjunction with "amazing chest ahead." Cryptic.

(http://i.imgur.com/3Xrg8xb.jpg)

"Toni~ight, I'm gonna have mah-se~lf a real go~od time." See? Using both hands has paid off already! Mystery solved. Good job!

(http://i.imgur.com/7bjP74z.jpg)

A party consisting of a knight and 3 freelancers can get expensive if you always want to have the best equips. Rest in peace, dear wallet. Yeah, RIP. Of course, this bunch is ready to RIP some bad guys a new one.

(http://i.imgur.com/AuxeN6E.jpg)

The whole press A to win situation is ever-prevalent here. Where have thou gone, job commands?

(http://i.imgur.com/3krnomB.jpg)

Speaking of two handing, Monty earns it just in time for Magissa and Pals (TM).

(http://i.imgur.com/4DRRmIx.jpg)

So, Magissa uses poison on the local wildlife for poaching? But wouldn't that damage the meat? But the only part of the dragon that she's interested in is the horn? OK. For a throwaway boss, there's ~LOGIC~ here.

(http://i.imgur.com/8yzqxl9.jpg)

Way back when I first played this game, it was such a nice touch to find that the king's mythril helmet wound up in your inventory and Lenna started the battle poisoned. Nice bit of continuity there.

(http://i.imgur.com/wTLU4nc.jpg)

Two handing proves effective immediately. Yikes.

(http://i.imgur.com/OXZOptq.jpg)

Mr. Pals doesn't last very long against a longsword onslaught and Magissa is soon to follow. No poaching please! Also it just occurred to me that these sprites are very similar to some in FF6 I think? Why am I observing this now?

(http://i.imgur.com/0Xhy3WI.jpg)

Remember kids, dragon slobber cures all kinds of poisons! Scaly kisses for the nice lady. Having a pet dragon opens things up to getting the healing staff and a couple other nice goodies right off the bat.

(http://i.imgur.com/Up8EAG8.jpg)

Tycoon!
TyCOON!
TYcoon!
It's only a model...

(http://i.imgur.com/Y6EKaP8.jpg)

SWEET thanks for the free gear, Mr. Chancellorman!

(http://i.imgur.com/89M0d3y.jpg)

I swear I missed visiting Tycoon early on my first 3 playthroughs. Doing so really pays off here considering I have so many characters that are freelancers for now.

(http://i.imgur.com/RZ30lB7.jpg)

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the party steals a legally blind man's glasses. Seriously, guys?!

(http://i.imgur.com/Hd2yR8s.jpg)

The number of cutesy references in this game are pretty great. Woolsey would be proud.

(http://i.imgur.com/iw3EgcO.jpg)

I mean seriously.

(http://i.imgur.com/f6DyvSc.jpg)

The elven mantle is too good to pass up, so down in the dungeons I goes. Yeah I learned my lesson from last year. Quicksave, ho!

(http://i.imgur.com/H1HlfVJ.jpg)

The team from Walse's synchronized dying performance went spectacularly at the Red Shirt Olympics.

(http://i.imgur.com/gFOLLzL.jpg)

I'm sure the people of your expansive kingdom will be thrilled to hear that you wound up here for no good reason, sire! I'm sure that your kingdom will be fine without leadership during these trying times, your bleeding outness. Maybe the kingdom is better off?

(http://i.imgur.com/RrhMTTp.jpg)

Several of us watched with bated breath as the four players in THE RUN barely survived the encounter with Garula. Here I have no trouble whatsoever. :V

(http://i.imgur.com/LUaXCot.jpg)

Garula counters Monty's assault with a total of 3 different attacks and they do about as much damage as a feisty kitten nibbling on your hand during playtime. Bye friend. I know you weren't yourself. Many people in this mess weren't, aren't, or won't be themselves. No hard feelings.

(http://i.imgur.com/INhJFZ5.jpg)

That's a plot-centric location for dying, stranger. If I had rolled white mage, I would've liked to have helped.

(http://i.imgur.com/AADl7ja.jpg)

Whoops! I didn't do it officer I swears it was my bruddah. Fare thee well, sweet Syldra. Anyway, the Water Crystal job turns out to be Mystic Knight! Time to swap!

(http://i.imgur.com/IjG6Yzg.jpg)

Lenna goes from last year's tiger bikini to this year's MC Hammer pants. Not a very fashionable upgrade. Then again, the game was made in '92. Either way, her job for the rest of the game is dishing out sweet spellblade action.

(http://i.imgur.com/Js9jlT5.jpg)

I'm so excited! I've played this game from start to finish maybe 5 times and not once did I ever use this class. Then I played Bravely Default and suddenly I realized what I missed out on. Break blade erry day. Apparently.

(http://i.imgur.com/A22FwQK.jpg)

Such is the fate of Team Roflstomp. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team I'm Still Programmed to Buy All The Spells Even Though Only One Person Uses Any of Them or Team Thank Goodness For Healsticks.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 25, 2015, 03:41:13 AM
Got my two Reflect Rings. Since Atomos is just a damage race, I slapped Berserk on my non-Zerkers and let everybody have at each other.

The non-Zerkers survived. Bersk had the Dancing Dagger but died first so no random Sword Dance gibs. Sadness overtakes me. (http://imgur.com/oBCrG4U)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 25, 2015, 04:19:53 AM
Slowly making my way forward, and made a hilarious mistake and had everyone at level 15 while doing the Library of the Ancients.

Page 64 (or was it 128?) used Level 5 Death.
Party wipes. I had just beat Ifrit too. That's kind of a disappointing way to game over for the first time in a run. :V

MEANWHILE AT THE ISLAND SHRINE, my level 30 self runs into Executors that also use that.  Thankfully Lenna was lagging behind at 29 or I would have gotten rekt
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 25, 2015, 08:38:42 PM
Someone's been complaining I haven't been streaming my FJF and that's because Heavensward happened

But now I could use a break from it so my stream is here (http://www.hitbox.tv/garlyle)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 25, 2015, 08:44:32 PM
Welcome back to Team No Really Mom I Swear I Have A Job It Just Hasn't Started Yet.  This chapter and the following were streamed last night Tuesday night (I zonked out before finishing this writeup oops) so I wasn't as on top of screencapping as I would have liked to be because I was too busy yapping and being absolutely fantastic at video games.  Oh well I'll try to be better about that next time (tonight?  Friday?)

(http://i.imgur.com/MHIZzVC.png)
After departing town I make my way up a mountain.  It took me too many playthroughs to learn that I can switch out who I am running around with, sorry (not sorry) HALLO? you get the boot.  This was the first year I managed to not accidentally dash into the poison flowers great work me!

(http://i.imgur.com/zHtIMcV.png)
In a game where the final boss is named Exdeath it might not be so wise to be beating up gravestones and risk enraging the dead but what do I know.

Lucky for me Reddyne's significantly better about hitting the screencap button so if you're reading this you probably already saw what happens in terms of ~plot~ Here is where Team Press A To Win Except When I Don't hit a bit of a roadblock.  Without any of these newfangled spells or skills, I didn't quite have the DPS to take out Magissa before she brought in her boyfriend (?) and then keep up with the healing necessary to not require one of the gravestones I was previously beating up.  Enter the Frost Rod I looted in Carwen, which unlike my past runs was an option this time around which I was holding onto because I can't easily disregard 18 or so years of JRPG item hoarding tendencies BUT BUT WHAT IF I NEED IT LATER??

WELL I had a 48.51% chance of not being able to use the blasted (blizzarded?) thing after Garula, and luckily for fiesta-players everywhere those are available in exchange for gilmoneys in the next town in case I do wind up with a mage job. Whoever said money can't buy happiness never had the satisfaction of snapping a rod in Soul Cannon's missile launching not-face.  Capitalism, ho!

(http://i.imgur.com/PfcVlVT.png)
Godspeed frost rod you served us well o7
Yeah I'm bad at screenshots so just take my word that I finally beat those clowns so hard one of them didn't bother showing up to the rodeo. 

(http://i.imgur.com/CwO8d1k.png)
Problems, you say?  Like a certain rogue rouge raggedy rascal of a <insert clever alliteration for "stupid elephant jerkbutt who I will roflstomp this year" here> I meet soon?  Well ok if you say so.  Time to hit the skies!

(http://i.imgur.com/keafEPu.png)
I'm pretty certain I take a screencap of this one every year in honor of 4healfiesta slogfest that boss was my first year.  I think the point they want to make is that Garula isn't really a big ol' elephant jerkbutt.... but you still see him as a random encounter anyway and he totally still attacks first there so yeah.  You won't change my opinion that easily.

(http://i.imgur.com/tVxYimt.png)
Have I mentioned yet how fantastic this localization is?  I'm sure it makes some people cringe (and that only gets worse from here on in) but FF5 ain't exactly high falutin' fancy feast literature here. 

(http://i.imgur.com/rkOptkK.png)
Pictured: Walse Castle
Not Pictured: Tycoon Castle
I totally know the difference between the two places and certainly didn't mix them up when looking for the heal stick what are you talking about?

Let's take a tour shall we?  Lots of fun* critters to see inside!
*for certain definitions of fun
(http://i.imgur.com/P9buVUz.png)
um bby no

(http://i.imgur.com/jzc1DEB.png)
Some words of wisdom.  It would behoove me to heed them if I would rather not be a warrior of light shaped splat on the floor and stay the heck out of the basement....

(http://i.imgur.com/EePG0yc.png)
....or not because I've played this game enough to know I want that Elven Mantle yesterday.  I may be greedy but I'm not an idiot, so quicksave shenanigans ahoy!

(http://i.imgur.com/5rHkJW0.png)
Pictured: Tycoon Castle
Not Pictured: Walse Castle

(http://i.imgur.com/rGWO4Xw.png)
HMM YOU DON'T SAY
As a JRPG Protagonist I would be doing this regardless but good to know!  Inside said storeroom I score some fantastic weapons that I will certainly use to murderize Garula in his dumb elephant face (and a bell for Geomancer but let's be real here)

(http://i.imgur.com/au2e3Wt.png)
There will be screencaps of this nature the whole game I apologize for nothing.  Onward to progressing the plot - to the Water Crystal!  And trying out those sexy weapons I looted borrowed with permission that I may or may not be able to use for the rest of the game!

(http://i.imgur.com/ww7gVEj.png)
Whoahoho look at those green numbers from the heal stick!

(http://i.imgur.com/ILKcbH1.png)
Whoahoho look at those white numbers from the samurai sword!

(http://i.imgur.com/aprTCoP.png)
Whoahoho look at those orange zigzags of HAHAHAHAHA GARULA HAHAHA.  Revenge is so sweet.
I'm totally going to be plinking at him with 4 thieves next year aren't I now?

(http://i.imgur.com/yhemItH.png)
With victory under my belt, the Water Crystal goes boom and so does the tower.  I'm not an engineer, but I have to question the fellows who sign off on these things if an exploding crystal can lead to sinking the whole damn peninsula.

(http://i.imgur.com/f0YVQvQ.png)
Syldra you saved us but but :ohdear:

With that I roll for my Water Crystal job.... Ranger!  Isn't going to do me a lot of good until after Byblos but five words:

Rapid
Fire
!Spellblade
Chicken
Knife
RIP in pieces game.  But alas, such shenanigans are a little further are a world (or two) away.

(http://i.imgur.com/yNH89Y2.png)
For now, I finally get some other things to do in battle and look totally fashionaaabluh if I do say so myself, especially the menfolk (and Krile but she just looks cute in everything)

Tune in next for more fun and fiesta-ing with Team I Certainly Won't Forget To Buy Black Magic No Siree
spoiler: I do

EDIT:  I'm going to be pesty and start streaming myself in a few minutes (currently 7:20 EST) (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 26, 2015, 02:26:28 AM
Someone's been complaining I haven't been streaming my FJF and that's because Heavensward happened

But now I could use a break from it so my stream is here (http://www.hitbox.tv/garlyle)

I mean I didn't reeeeeeeeeally mind. :V You do you man.

But of course you finally started it while I was stuck at work. ;_;

So what was your feelings on seeing your "wind" class I didn't spoil for you. :V

EDIT: JESUS CHRIST I JUST LOOKED AT WHAT ELSE YOU'VE ROLLED HAVE FUN STEAMROLLING EVEN HARDER THAN I AM
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Yaersulf on June 26, 2015, 07:48:19 AM
People talking about this in IRC made me want to do it despite the fact I know nothing about FFV, so I am. Let's see how far I get.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 26, 2015, 08:26:05 AM
World 2 is complete! Managed to totally mess up a run of Exdeath by casting Return instead of Comet, but I got there eventually. :V

I'm also living up to the name of TIME FORCE by giving my entire party level 6 time magic. Hopefully this will really pay off by the time Meteo shows up...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on June 26, 2015, 09:32:05 AM
EDIT: JESUS CHRIST I JUST LOOKED AT WHAT ELSE YOU'VE ROLLED HAVE FUN STEAMROLLING EVEN HARDER THAN I AM
Bard/Samurai/Chemist

Oh sure it sounds great

but I now have to do Sandworm, Crayclaw, Adamantoise, Sol Cannon, the Lonka Ruins, and Archaeavis.  With only Bards.

once I get past this the game is going to be pretty much smooth sailing but before then oh god
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Yaersulf on June 26, 2015, 04:05:41 PM
I have passed the wind shrine and unlocked my first class: Knight. This has yielded intensely complex and engaging gameplay!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 26, 2015, 04:07:58 PM
I have passed the wind shrine and unlocked my first class: Knight. This has yielded intensely complex and engaging gameplay!
CHOP CHOP SHOVEL CHOP
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 26, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
but I now have to do Sandworm, Crayclaw, Adamantoise, Sol Cannon, the Lonka Ruins, and Archaeavis.  With only Bards.

Oh. Uh... yeah, shit.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 26, 2015, 08:02:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/UpHVsaF.png)

The TIME FORCE has prevailed! Final levels were 42 for Lenna, 43 for everyone else.
 
I'd like to thank the academy, my agents, and the Quick spell for being stupidly overpowered.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 26, 2015, 09:10:30 PM
Bards.
:toot: Godspeed :toot:

I have passed the wind shrine and unlocked my first class: Knight. This has yielded intensely complex and engaging gameplay!
PRESS A PRESS A PRESS A PRESS A
Here's hoping you get something slightly more exciting next which in your case is anything other than Berserker  :V

---------
Let's check back with Team Utilizing The Conductive Properties of Metal Swords as they hit up the MTA (Metropolitan Meteorite Transportation Authority) en route to the Fire Crystal.

(http://i.imgur.com/HIvicC3.png)
We might have lost the ability to equip that fantastic samurai sword, but exploiting elemental weakness oh my this is new and exciting territory for me in 4JF runs.  I'm still going to be just smashing A for most random battles, but the ability to do something else is quite welcome.

I make my way to Karnak and mosey on over to the shops to boost the local economy and my kill potential. 75% off?  What a steal!
(http://i.imgur.com/6W9oP6W.png)
...oh

(http://i.imgur.com/Vs2kO2I.png)
ohhhhhhhhh
So a tip for first time players, you will wind up which whatever item you tried to buy prior to you getting tossed in the slammer so make it count!  Lucky for us a non-evil chancellor gets us and good ol' Cid over there out of jail and we can explore the castle and town at our leisure.  Both are disturbingly kind of on fire (which of course I didn't really screencap because oops) and most people are more concerned with a werewolf that showed up than the conveniently placed flames in from of treasure chests because JRPG plot locking.

(http://i.imgur.com/5HbrztN.png)

Sir are you aware that your town is on fire?
(http://i.imgur.com/EqH1dr9.png)
Well no matter, onward to the Fire Ship we've got a crystal to... uncrack?  I always kind of wondered if our crew had a game plan other than politely asking The Powers That Be to knock it off, or how we planned on fixing whatever damage was already done to the crystals.  Good thing the latter always winds up a moot point :V

I would like to point out I spent a stupid amount of time going around in circles in the Fire Ship because I was too busy yapping also I can't remember a game I've played a half dozen times already.

(http://i.imgur.com/P3vU8cP.png)
How I spent what felt like 3 hours.

(http://i.imgur.com/DKJUMrd.png)
PROTIP: It's the tunnel 2nd from the left on the bottom that gets you out of this mess.

Eventually I make it out and go say hi to Liquid Flame.  Oh sweet I have Mystic Knight I can just stab her in the face/hand/tornado with my icesword and and
(http://i.imgur.com/Ik3ToeC.png)
Oh dear.  At this point I am grateful that I was streaming because I got some pretty helpful comments which went something like this:

Were you using Blizzard !Spellblade?
 :V Yeah but I just wasn't outdamaging it
Why not Blizzara?
 :V You don't have access to Blizzara yet.
Yes you do you can buy the -ra spells in Karnak
 :V  :V  :V .....  :fail:

(http://i.imgur.com/Q0CSDry.png)
ALRIGHT KIDS LET'S FIX THAT AND TRY AGAIN.

(http://i.imgur.com/dpTOmrJ.png)
This was roughly a 35% increase in icestabbing per turn.  That adds up pretty quickly!  I also learned that if you use a !Spellblade of a nullified element on a monster that it comes up as a miss rather than zero damage.  I'll be having some words about missed attacks later on.   Blaze is still really dumb and a Fira to the face is pretty much a death sentence for my team, but with just that extra bit of damage...

(http://i.imgur.com/IQpoXCS.png)
HOORAY :toot:

If you're terribly bored and missed my stream you can see the clips of an unsuccessful (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles/c/6884531) and the successful battle (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles/c/6884571) (the former gets a bit silly)

Enough of that, let's get with the exploding and the castle looting!  I kind of overestimated how much time I'd need, so I wound up skipping the ribbon.  Hopefully I won't have a Dancer that'll want it anytime soon :V

(http://i.imgur.com/QoyovQi.png)
Aww yeah this dagger is quite sweet, this and the Elven Mantle are mainstays to any good Karnak Castle run.

(http://i.imgur.com/DZKi48e.png)
I've got this bozo to contend with on the way out, but he goes down pretty fast.  Castle goes boom, and I get to see my next assigned class... Dragoon!  I don't think spears are !Spellblade compatible, but that's ok.  Jump shenanigans are fine too!  Alas, Ranger is in the second half of the Fire Crystal jobs so I still have one more dungeon before I get that.

That's all for today (or Tuesday, rather) Hopefully I'll be less tardy with the next chapter of Team Let's Not Wind Up In Jail Again For Burning Down The Library.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 26, 2015, 11:59:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/fNO6CCo.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes deliberately jumping into a timespace anomaly. Surely this will turn out for the best.

(http://i.imgur.com/E1u8yrf.jpg)

Uh, was this about sinking a tower with the local king inside, or the number of 'elixirs' on my person? I mean WAIT WAIT READ ME MY RIGHTS FIRST LET'S DO THIS OVER.

(http://i.imgur.com/76EkpfX.jpg)

WOAH there gramps! Not in front of the children! We get out anyway thanks to the THIRD competent chancellor we've encountered THUS FAR.

(http://i.imgur.com/4P7o1wo.jpg)

Yeah, uh, about that NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THIS mentality...

(http://i.imgur.com/NTMqJhR.jpg)

Thanks for the info, too. This doesn't sound ominous at all, by the way.

(http://i.imgur.com/fj8957E.jpg)

Thanks for the input, political strawman!

(http://i.imgur.com/UETncb2.jpg)

I'm sail~ing a~way. Set an open course for the vir~gin sea~~~. I still have a very realistic chance of rolling bard.

(http://i.imgur.com/DyjX7Lr.jpg)

After a quick monetary grinding session I put my spoils to work on the local shops. The party ships off back to Walse to test out their new gear. Shiva wishes we didn't.

(http://i.imgur.com/ceH2OIk.jpg)

Luckily the team keeps the stomptrain rolling in the fire-powered ship. The enemies here always creeped me out. I mean, here we have a crewman who was incinerated and now his ghost possesses his ashes. YIKES.

(http://i.imgur.com/iydk0CV.jpg)

Then there's this wanker that's composed of two severed heads and one's got its tongue sticking through the other. Get a room, you two.

(http://i.imgur.com/xFr9dFA.jpg)

By the way having your eyes bug out of your skull is probably a bad thing and doesn't make them as big as melons. The more you know. ~~~~~*

(http://i.imgur.com/FZXK3RD.jpg)

The importance of being dapper during times of conflict does not escape Faris.

(http://i.imgur.com/JzT5BAy.jpg)

I'm sure tents and cabins fit in your inventory this naturally in real life, too.

(http://i.imgur.com/MVKZM5g.jpg)

It took me way too long to figure out that the queen was actually possessed during the whole thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/t7ClrPu.jpg)

With a two-handing knight, a blizzara-charged magic knight, and a healstick, Liquid Flame ain't no thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZF7BADd.jpg)

Yup! Possessed by Exdeath!

(http://i.imgur.com/6Qo5OfR.jpg)

The time for goodies has arrived! I do a practice run and wind up wiping the place clean the next time.

(http://i.imgur.com/H2EzOS4.jpg)

Just in case! Dancer's also still in the cards!

(http://i.imgur.com/3xDeSzv.jpg)

Free money? Any time.

(http://i.imgur.com/OWbp7lF.jpg)

Elven mantles are for EVERYONE.

(http://i.imgur.com/wF4xaiw.jpg)

Considering how offensively oriented my current party is, it may be a wise decision to stock up on these things.

(http://i.imgur.com/DJ4pHYx.jpg)

More dodgey fun!

(http://i.imgur.com/JUBZGok.jpg)

After squishing Dr. Claw, there's a quick run in for a few more elixirs before escaping to safety. We also totally aren't guilty for crippling a third nation in a row.

(http://i.imgur.com/xNR0Uan.jpg)

With the party safe, I decide to make sure that Lenna doesn't get hit by anything ever again.

(http://i.imgur.com/l7yXvJK.jpg)

Gilgabot has spoken! Faris is now a beastmaster! Those are some sweet earmuffs lets hope we don't walk through a desert next though. I am curious as to how things will turn out with yet another job that is almost completely new to me! I think the upsides will be decent survivability and some cool tricks. The downsides seem to be that beasties are a one-use thing and it'll be a hassle to wrangle many of them.

(http://i.imgur.com/Nh4xOad.jpg)

And whose fault is THAT?! Certainly maybe not mine!

(http://i.imgur.com/YKLujJB.jpg)

And after 15 years of blaming her for Karnak's woes, I feel bad for the queen. Sorry, queenie. :(

(http://i.imgur.com/ZZkUWLx.jpg)

Such is the fate of Team Technically The Heroes of This Story. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Rocket is Beastmastering Off Again or Team Let's Hope We Don't Get This Next Place Sucked Into a Black Hole We Have a Bad Rep for Destroying Places Going.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 27, 2015, 12:53:46 AM
One of the major upsides I found with Beastmaster was being able to instantly incapacitate any singular enemy, then use its most powerful attacks against the rest of the random encounter until everything dies. Or being able to Transfusion your own team, or White Wind, etc.

The application of !Control in random encounters is pretty great. Since Knight and Mystic Knight might not have enough punching power to knock out bigger enemies in one turn, it takes a lot of pressure off, usually.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Smashy on June 27, 2015, 03:09:16 AM
One of the major upsides I found with Beastmaster was being able to instantly incapacitate any singular enemy

To add onto this, this even works if you have Berserker because whatever you !Control gets its ATB reset when it gets smacked, so if the encounter's a single big mob you just spam !Control on it and it never actually gets a turn.

(This is how I'm going to wind up farming all of the Dragon Whiskers for my team <_<)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on June 27, 2015, 06:17:52 AM
Hey guys, if you want to watch me play, I'm going to stream now.

http://www.twitch.tv/jester147 (http://www.twitch.tv/jester147)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on June 27, 2015, 07:51:08 AM
Now I have all the crystals. Here's my lineup:

Monk
Time Mage
Ranger
Dancer

This isn't quite good, probably gonna train everyone into a Time Mage and spam Comet like no tomorrow. Even so, there's always Monk's Barehanded ability that will guarantee everyone can still attack.

For the trip to the Crystals, Rangers really shine with their elemental bows. Soul Cannon had no chance, but the encounters before are painful.
Because Archaeoavis changes forms and elemental properties, I need to ditch the bows and go Barehanded for the second try. The first try ended in failure because I didn't realize the last form has all elemental immunities and it decided to use Maelstrom on the party, leaving almost no room to whack everyone back to shape with Healing Staff.

With that, off to Galuf's World. But I have a question, in the moment where we have 3 party members, how will the rules work out? And then when we're playing Galuf solo?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 27, 2015, 08:24:43 AM
But I have a question, in the moment where we have 3 party members, how will the rules work out? And then when we're playing Galuf solo?
From what I'm aware you can use any of your classes, but no duplicates.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Yaersulf on June 27, 2015, 08:46:26 AM
I have my second class: Red Mage! As such Faris has promptly been relegated to heal bot to fuel the furious swords of the three knights!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 27, 2015, 11:58:08 AM
Now I have all the crystals. Here's my lineup:

Monk
Time Mage
Ranger
Dancer

This isn't quite good, probably gonna train everyone into a Time Mage and spam Comet like no tomorrow. Even so, there's always Monk's Barehanded ability that will guarantee everyone can still attack.

For the trip to the Crystals, Rangers really shine with their elemental bows. Soul Cannon had no chance, but the encounters before are painful.
Because Archaeoavis changes forms and elemental properties, I need to ditch the bows and go Barehanded for the second try. The first try ended in failure because I didn't realize the last form has all elemental immunities and it decided to use Maelstrom on the party, leaving almost no room to whack everyone back to shape with Healing Staff.

With that, off to Galuf's World. But I have a question, in the moment where we have 3 party members, how will the rules work out? And then when we're playing Galuf solo?
This party will get better over time for sure. Monk gets stronger from (unfortunately) lots of grinding.  Time mages get more and more useful the more spells you get. !Rapid Fire with the chicken knife will be devastating once you get your ranger up high enough. Dancer doesn't seem like much and WON'T be much until you get equips to boost the occurrence rate of Sword Dance. Look those up and ways to get them since I think you can do some thief knife shenanigans to get a helmet for the boost? If not, it's available as a drop early in world 3. Really, I think the only thing you lack is a decent source of healing, which maaaaaaay be partially covered by the ranger's !Animals?

EDIT: YES the ranger does but it's so high up and the chance will still be so low that you might as well skip it.
I have my second class: Red Mage! As such Faris has promptly been relegated to heal bot to fuel the furious swords of the three knights!
As bemoaned as red mages are for everything other than !Dualcast, don't take their potential to heal for granted. Ever.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 27, 2015, 01:04:31 PM
Summoner/Berserker/Samurai/Berserker



Shinryu and Neo Exdeath are down........Omega.....I cry when I think about it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: FinnKaenbyou on June 27, 2015, 01:29:58 PM
Dancer doesn't seem like much and WON'T be much until you get equips to boost the occurrence rate of Sword Dance. Look those up and ways to get them since I think you can do some thief knife shenanigans to get a helmet for the boost? If not, it's available as a drop early in world 3.
This IS a thing, but the enemy in question is in the Lonka Ruins. So sadly he'll have just missed it. ><

Also, Garlyle, just wanted to make a quick comment. In the guide on Necrophobia you mention his barriers don't reflect Fire/Ice/Bolt spells off themselves. In the GBA version at least it seems like that's been fixed, and they bounce ALL spells off of themselves.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 27, 2015, 10:59:34 PM
Natural Crystals Time Mage, Berserker, Ranger, Chemist is currently up to the final world.

Obviously, since I actually rolled Time Mage and am playing one of the versions where it is possible, I obviously cast Exit right when I got to the library because I wanted an excuse to do this glitch. This let me do Island Shrine with 3 characters, Fork Tower(where I got Lenna back), and Phoenix Tower(was hoping for more than 1 rare drop from Cheries) before the Pyramid. Unfortunately, I now have to do the Pyramid since I need to do it to get the airship back, but I have Lenna for it now, which means she'll get to help in the boss fight after the pyramid.


After I finish the pyramid, I'll do the remaining 2 dungeons before the void, maybe farm some Gil for anything I still need then go finish the game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 28, 2015, 12:27:31 AM
My most recent post took 100 minutes to prepare and then the website ate them all. Let's pretend there's stuff here with me being both excited and disappointed by Beastmaster. :V

EDIT: To sum things up, I plow through the library then travel the world. I also find out that beastmasters are on or off on their awesomeness at any given moment.

(http://i.imgur.com/wKDnAna.jpg)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on June 28, 2015, 06:32:52 AM
My most recent post took 100 minutes to prepare and then the website ate them all. Let's pretend there's stuff here with me being both excited and disappointed by Beastmaster. :V
This is why I use Editpad for my post-making needs. I feel your pain, bro. :(

Here's hoping next week will cool the hell down so I can actually stream this game to my friends...My mic is set up to catch the sound from both me and my speakers, and I can't exactly do that with my AC blaring.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on June 28, 2015, 10:24:36 AM
This IS a thing, but the enemy in question is in the Lonka Ruins. So sadly he'll have just missed it. ><

After a bit of Wiki walking, all the Dancer equips are available at the Mirage/Phantom Village.

...But that would be WAY long. Oh well.

EDIT: and the Thief Knife wouldn't be available till I reach said place too.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 28, 2015, 11:24:33 AM
'Kay, got my 4JF related avatar  :getdown:



Beat Omega using my Sum/Zerk/Sam/Zerk team. Hours later victory was processed. Started another Chaos run.


Geomancer/Bard/Ranger/Samurai




:v I got the 2 best Fire Crystal jobs, which are 2 of the top 5 classes in the game. Omega will be easy now. Shinryu gonna need some work though.



Edit: And just realized my friend didn't remove the background when she did her editing. Ohwellthat'sfine.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on June 29, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
After much delays and slackings off (which I attribute to Smite and Valdis Story, goddamn those games at times), I have finally moved on to Act 2.

(http://puu.sh/iH2m1/c24a8370dc.png)

I think we're doing good for ourselves at least. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Tomion on June 29, 2015, 05:28:20 PM
So..what is Chaos run? I might try it if I knew what it means
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 29, 2015, 06:58:34 PM
Chaos Runs summed up rolls all 4 Jobs the moment you sign up, and then distributes them in order of when they are available. Duplicates are possible
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on June 29, 2015, 07:56:54 PM
I'm probably going to do a Chaos run myself after I finish up my Classic run. Speaking of which, much Objec d'Art grinding and throwing of Golden Needles later:

(http://puu.sh/iHkQ2/851903f667.png)

I kind of feel like for a Natural challenge, getting jobs maxed via this method as soon as possible makes for a much less stressful time later. I'm still pre-Drakenvale, so I feel like I could have done this a bit later, but eh, I just wanted to not have to worry about it. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Tomion on June 29, 2015, 08:42:02 PM
I got White Mage in chaos run for 1st job....so..can I put all my chars white mage until I get the other classes or...?
and how am I suppose to even go about getting to 2nd crystal with white mage T_T
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 29, 2015, 09:05:27 PM
If you're not on Natural, all 4 must be White Mages.


As for getting to the Water Crystal, it's quite annoying at the start since you lack damage. Level up a bit before Karlabos, grab the Flail in the Ship Graveyard, and grab the Heal Staff once you get the Hiryuu. It's slow but that's all it really is for White Mage.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 29, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
Yeah everyone's gotta get set to White Mage.
It's a bit of a slog, but doable (this was my fate my first year of Fiesta-ing)  Bosses are going to take a while, but at least you aren't going to die  :V

Some tips:
- Grab the Flail in the Shop Graveyard, it's back row OK and unfortunately your best source of damage for a bit.
- Siren has an undead form so you can laugh your way to victory
- Magissa can be silenced.
- Garula will counter-attack so you probably want just your Flail-user smacking him around to minimize the hurt.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 29, 2015, 10:06:34 PM
And Heal Staff. Never forget the Heal Staff. It's a Cura that doesn't require MP. Only single target but it's so useful. Also I think you have Blink by the time you fight Garula so you can always just use that to negate his damage. And Protect as well.




3rd Fiesta run complete. Time to wait for processing before I start Chaos 4 :getdown:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: UncertainJakutten on June 29, 2015, 10:11:54 PM
I'm going to cry. My classes are: Ninja, Dragoon, Dancer, Dancer. What do you even DO with that?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 29, 2015, 10:27:58 PM
I'm going to cry. My classes are: Ninja, Dragoon, Dancer, Dancer. What do you even DO with that?

Oh that's easy. Give Ninja Equip Ribbon, and give the others Dual-Wield. Dragoon spams Jump and deals 2 hits with it, Dancers use !Dance for Sword Dances and hit twice.


Ninja in general is just a good class.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Serela on June 29, 2015, 10:39:27 PM
Yeah, the dancers are RNG hell until you can secure some dancer gear (you can steal some with the thief dagger slightly early, which would be a good idea) but after that, dual-wielding sword dancer is highly lethal. 3~4 party members with ribbons is a pretty nice boon at some parts too.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on June 30, 2015, 01:27:56 AM
This is why I use Editpad for my post-making needs. I feel your pain, bro. :(

Here's hoping next week will cool the hell down so I can actually stream this game to my friends...My mic is set up to catch the sound from both me and my speakers, and I can't exactly do that with my AC blaring.
I have my first few entries saved as drafts in my email account. Considering that I had no problems with major edits to each before, I thought I would be in the clear. I guess not. :(

(http://i.imgur.com/Ed84AsA.jpg)

We rejoin our crew outside of Crescent after returning from a 2 week vacation traveling the world and accomplishing nothing much in particular. Great work, team! The first thing we do in this lovely island town is trigger an earthquake. Let's tack initiating a catastrophic natural disaster onto our list of previous crimes including gross negligence leading to the death and catatonia of two separate regents, two counts of destruction of core government buildings, two counts of negligence leading to the destruction of key natural resources, dozens of counts of larceny, drug possession, and loitering (I needed to go to the bathroom while playing last time).

(http://i.imgur.com/I6Dby1c.jpg)

Just checking, lady.

(http://i.imgur.com/Kr7Pxy1.jpg)

Hey, our ride! Does our insurance cover this?

(http://i.imgur.com/OF2mGV0.jpg)

Just a small town gir~l. Livin' in a LONE-LY WOR~LD. The team knows how to respond to property damage: Busting into someone's house and jammin'.

(http://i.imgur.com/yXhaxQl.jpg)

Then harassing an endangered species. Now for the Final Fantasy equivalent of driving home with a huge dent in the front bumper of your dad's corvette.

(http://i.imgur.com/yVVTYrl.jpg)

Dad I'm so sorry please lemme explain there was an earthquake and a whirlpool an-oop nevermind.

(http://i.imgur.com/dF7vLY6.jpg)

Dad suggests swapping out the boat for some live transportation. The secret? Making it un-alive. Thank goodness no berserkers this year!

(http://i.imgur.com/ZAaxLCc.jpg)

Thanks, real dad. This is why Cid is so much cooler.

(http://i.imgur.com/4ZG7Wec.jpg)

Through some bizarre plot-related twist of fate, the teleporter warps us halfway around the world right on top of where we wish to be anyway - back with our ship. Conveniently, it's made a friend in the form of an airship. Aw, how sweet!

(http://i.imgur.com/QFzgpWF.jpg)

Yikes! A palette swapped boss!

(http://i.imgur.com/EeXaa7v.jpg)

One that wishes it weren't weak to thunder!

(http://i.imgur.com/QhJdf2F.jpg)

Monty realizes that the team's stomachs are more of a concern than the boss.

(http://i.imgur.com/Z0GCi74.jpg)

So here's the thing with beastmasters. Yes, you have to labor over finding a good enemy to catch, whittle them down to an inch of their life, then picking the right time to use them all of once before having to wait to repeat the whole cycle. HOWEVER, the number of tricks in their bag is not limited to a single party trick attained after doing a chore. So here we have Prototype, the toughest baddie in the land for world 1. I can't even damage the guy.

(http://i.imgur.com/c92gSIB.jpg)

But !Control comes to the rescue! That flat 40% success rate is good enough for me, especially since it works on the local toughie. Nifty! We now get a choice from a short list of abilities which it will use on our target of choice.Even then, we can't even get it to hurt itself, but there's one more trick up our sleeves.

(http://i.imgur.com/v1PI4GK.jpg)

Yup. No one can harm the prototype in any capacity, but it can be beat by having him self destruct. I take full advantage of this a few times over.

(http://i.imgur.com/xbdP2nD.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YVkVv1z.jpg)

Adamantoise is a snap once I remember which elemental weakness it has.

(http://i.imgur.com/9kQCxsr.jpg)

thenightbeforeyourseniorprojectisdue.jpg

(http://i.imgur.com/SKTk5J5.jpg)

The fights with the smaller cannons go very quickly because the party features two knights of different flavors attacking with thunder swords. On a side note, Mystic Knights are VERY quick and can pump out the DPS thanks to getting off that spellblade move early, but here it's not even necessary.

(http://i.imgur.com/TmgUKdR.jpg)

The Soul Cannon proves to be a bit of a bear because I don't have much in the way of healing. After a wipe and a good draw with who gets olded, the group pulls through.

(http://i.imgur.com/P6NAbrH.jpg)

Thanks for the goodies, pal. The number of Dark Matters comes from the number of times I had fun roughing up the Prototype. Such is the fate of Team Heaven, Heaven, Heaven, Limbo. Join us next time for the exciting adventures of Team Mile High, Clubbing Archaeoavis to Death or Team Willy Ronka and the Job Factory.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 30, 2015, 01:52:12 PM
Registered for 4th Chaos run.

Samurai


Kay I can start at my Water Crystal save. I'm guaranteed only Earth jobs so I might as well see what I have to work with.


Samurai


....Okay. #Fire then.  :V



Samurai..................



...... :colonveeplusalpha:



Chemist


You saved my run Gilgabot  :getdown:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on June 30, 2015, 03:38:08 PM
How to cheese Atomos entirely on a Classic run.

Step one: Use Sleep Blade on Atomos, watch as he falls to sleep and never wakes up.

Step two: Spam Poison Rod boosted Bio at him.

Step three: Apply every buff you have in the meanwhile just in case he wakes up.

Step four: ???

Step five: Profit.

(http://puu.sh/iIjXl/a0f2ad1370.png)

And yes that's everyone with Protect, Shell, and Blink on. It was kind of hilarious.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 30, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
Made it to act 3 with Berserker/Berserker/Red Mage/Samurai.

How much is there that I should do before heading into the Cleft? Get Masamune? Chicken Knife? Do I get magic axes for the zerkers, since I can transfer the Red Mage's magic stat?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 30, 2015, 05:32:17 PM
Made it to act 3 with Berserker/Berserker/Red Mage/Samurai.

How much is there that I should do before heading into the Cleft? Get Masamune? Chicken Knife? Do I get magic axes for the zerkers, since I can transfer the Red Mage's magic stat?

Yeah, definitely pick up the Chicken Knife, Mirage Vest, and Magic Lamp since they're all pretty simple grabs. Since you have to do the Pyramid you might as well pick up one set of sealed weapons (for you, Masamune/Rune Axe/Assassin's Dagger). Red Mage has shit for magic but it's still a solid upgrade on Berserker's, so probably give your Rune Axe 'zerker !Red and give the other one one of the daggers and... maybe Shirahadori?

You miiiiiiight want the Wonder Rod from Fork Tower but I don't know what you have for Omniscient except for trying to get Silence to stick so you can get a couple other things out or -ra spells? If you do, I guess you can get Magus Rod/Sage Staff/??? off the Island Shrine tablet (I know a couple of the others have sell values worth considering but not which ones offhand).

Don't forget to pick up some of the tasty tasty accessories in Phantom Village too.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on June 30, 2015, 05:38:05 PM
I'd avoid giving Red to either Zerker since their main focus should be Physical damage. Give them both Shirahadori for the Physical evasion and let Red Mage be the magic user.

Masamune is a definite for it's Initiative ability + Haste casting. Rune Axe is useful if you're not grabbing both Titan's Axe and Thor's Hammer. Assassin's Dagger is also good but I'd recommend Magus Rod if you're going to go for Omega/use your Red Mage for offensive magic.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on June 30, 2015, 05:46:58 PM
Power Rod makes Omniscient easy, right? Or Reflect Rings? I have two of those, and a power rod.

Maybe I can just toss Equip Axe on the Red Mage and let them use the Earth Hammer from the safety of the back row.

Assuming I bring a Red Mage (and ded zerker) for Omniscient, Samurai and Zerker can handle Minotaur, yea?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on June 30, 2015, 05:50:35 PM
Power Rod makes Omniscient easy, right? Or Reflect Rings? I have two of those, and a power rod.

Maybe I can just toss Equip Axe on the Red Mage and let them use the Earth Hammer from the safety of the back row.

Assuming I bring a Red Mage (and ded zerker) for Omniscient, Samurai and Zerker can handle Minotaur, yea?

... oh yeah duh I forgot you can berserk Omniscient. I have a Red Mage (so that's an option for me too) but I also have Mystic Knight so I'd just been gonna Silence Spellblade him to death. :V

And yeah the other should be fine for Minotaur, I think I've even heard tell of people sending two-Berserker teams up that side though I don't know how hard that makes him. (You can also keep the Berserker alive if you do Red/Zerk for Omniscient as long as you get the Power Staff smack off before the Zerk goes, which is almost certain given 1) Zerks are slow and 2) Zerks' ATB goes weirdly)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: WHMZakeri on June 30, 2015, 09:13:35 PM
The other day I beat NeoExdeath with my Summoner/Samurai/Zerkx2 team. I was worried I would need to grind, but all it really took to beat him was an RNG with a hint of kindness in it.

I had a super easy time the whole game through just using two Summoners (one of which that can equip genji armor) I even forgot to pick up the second Golden Hairpin in the Pyramid.

Even the Tower felt kind of easy, since I just blasted Omnicient with Syldra and the two Zerkers were enough for Minotaur.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on June 30, 2015, 10:46:16 PM
Registered for 4th Chaos run.

Samurai


Kay I can start at my Water Crystal save. I'm guaranteed only Earth jobs so I might as well see what I have to work with.


Samurai


....Okay. #Fire then.  :V



Samurai..................



...... :colonveeplusalpha:



Chemist


You saved my run Gilgabot  :getdown:
Nah, you could just throw money at everything, you didn't need help :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on June 30, 2015, 10:47:29 PM
He couldn't throw money at Omega's 190 defense, until he gets his Chemist to boost his level to 245+(since max attack is 255).


My current run is going to 2x Beastmaster 2x Dancer, which should be interesting. I'll be switching over to the GBA version for this run due to the Calm bug. I prerolled everything up to Fire obviously then just prerolled Earth because why not? Still need to actually play it through.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on June 30, 2015, 11:12:44 PM
Let's pop back over to Team 1001 Arabian (Mystic K)nights who have headed off to the Ancient Library which we can get to now that we may or may not have accelerated the destruction of Karnak oops.

(http://i.imgur.com/fHroDHq.png)
Look at that, everyone in the thread gets a gold star hooray!

(http://i.imgur.com/ypxsNE8.png)
No sweat Mr. Smartypants-Turtle we got that covered.  Turns out it's the books that instead of having words to read have monsters to fight :V
PS I totally thought they were wearing turtle shells when I first played through this game someone else please agree with me.

We've got an Exdeath minion mucking things up inside, fortunately we can convince our buddy Ifrit that Team Not Named After Anything Foreboding offers a better health and dental plan.
(http://i.imgur.com/bcZ44Su.png)
....well, assuming you rolled summoner  :ohdear:  Otherwise he just scares the pants off a haunted bookcase so you can proceed.

(http://i.imgur.com/zGsptxM.png)
DON'T: Come in with your team at a multiple level of 5 unless you A) want to learn the spell on your Blue Mage or B) enjoy being dead.

(http://i.imgur.com/QWef9Rp.png)
DO: Reenact Fahrenheit 451.

And then comes Byblos.  Even with a team that can literally roast him, getting unlucky with Dischords and Wind Slashes will wreck your day, as was the case in my first attempt.
(http://i.imgur.com/Q4dPAk0.png)
Missing what felt like 17 times in a row didn't help either.  Eventually Team Can't Hit The Broad Side Of A Barn-blos succeeded and we mosey on back to get that Fire Ship in tip top ship shape.

(http://i.imgur.com/qPCn3KC.png)
Ta-da~

(http://i.imgur.com/uQARyhZ.png)
HALLO? and crew can finally get their 2nd job so onward to Crescent Island!

(http://i.imgur.com/iyZwDez.png)
We get a Titan-approved welcome to the island. 

(http://i.imgur.com/LDsjd6v.png)
Oh come on we just got this toy :ohdear: 

(http://i.imgur.com/tpNCVrp.png)
And then we get some unwanted sass from that chucklehead.

(http://i.imgur.com/d1YtJIm.png)
no stop I'm getting flashbacks to the hours I put into FF7 chocobo breeding aaaaaaa 
Though while we're on the topic of chocobos, looks like that's the only way off this rock.

(http://i.imgur.com/BJTqOUF.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/Bni2Ipc.png)
To be fair gramps has a point we don't have the best track record of not trashing our mode of transportation.

(http://i.imgur.com/WUtvuYy.png)
Faris employs The Fonz method of fixing a thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/vs3kd6H.png)
:toot: gainful employment get :toot:

(http://i.imgur.com/1VTfkSx.png)
What a suspicious shrine surrounded by mountains that we have no way to get to surely this will never become important to the story.
Turns out Papa Tycoon was spotted in the desert so HOORAY DETOUR

(http://i.imgur.com/d8Cje0C.png)
Gramps telling those whippersnappers how it is.  The rest of the gang isn't quite as bold and unfortunately the game has preemptively taken a page from Twilight Princess and it's BYOBridge to make our way through.  Except instead of an actual bridge we're using the corpse of the bane of 'zerkers everywhere - Sandworm.

(http://i.imgur.com/4CEVO5x.png)
THEY'RE GEOMANCERS  :o

(http://i.imgur.com/sYMBk1m.png)
What would have been fantastic is remembering that Sandworm is inherently back row and had three rangers doing their thing with bows but nope.

(http://i.imgur.com/P1IloRG.png)
\o/

To my surprise I got through the sand maze fairly easily, so let's leave off with some of my new !Animal friends (I'll go into the mechanics a little later on) 
(http://i.imgur.com/udmARIl.png)
Nightingale makes for some pretty awesomesauce healing, it'll drop off sooner rather than later but until then I'm going to enjoy pretending I'm Cinderella.

(http://i.imgur.com/avZJ6QW.png)
BEES.  The damage they do is based on enemy level so it can vary quite a bit.  Hopefully they'll strikes as much fear into the hearts of my enemies as they do to me holy crap I am so scared of bees aaaaaa.  I think Cinderella would agree with me.

That's all for today kids!  I still didn't finish my backlog with Team The Most Metal Disney Princesses and I'll likely be streaming for a bit tonight, hopefully the next update will take us through ~the Earth Crystal~ oh bby

Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on July 01, 2015, 12:58:29 AM
FJF Stream Status: Now On

>Beat Sandworm
>Die before leaving desert due to random encounter
>Beat Sandworm again
>"I'll save state this time"
>Load state
>Back in the Library

fuck everything
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 02, 2015, 12:51:21 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2R6vrkQ.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes cruising the world in order to save it. Which means we take a detour from the floating doom tower because Monty was feeling a touch homesick.

(http://i.imgur.com/0kgIzrS.jpg)

As it turns out, his papa is Cyan from FF6. Don't cross the streams! By the way, how does the bard that moves into the old house even know to come to Lyx? The place is only accessible via flight and there's no airport. I've got the only means of transportation to get to this place in the entire world and it's been rusting under the sea for a thousand years. How?!

(http://i.imgur.com/jADv4eO.jpg)

Truly, Monty's old friend is the scholarly type.

Not pictured: The awkward what-did-you-do-with-your-life conversation. "OH you became a scholar? I was a chocobo-hobo, or chocohobo for short, who became destined to save the world, save ANOTHER world, and then save both of them COMBINED. How's that 100,000 gil piece of paper sound now, buddy?" How impolite!

(http://i.imgur.com/JNoX21o.jpg)

Back in Plottown, we pull off landing this thing on a moving vessel with amateur pilots without issue.

(http://i.imgur.com/FnGfNJd.jpg)

I'm sure OSHA would like a word with the people who designed this place.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hfj5NNH.jpg)

Letting these things hang around will not be good for the Joestar bloodline, so I put it to rest ASAP.

(http://i.imgur.com/ofD4mwC.jpg)

For as much as Lenna as a Mystic Knight has been great at boss-busting so far, Monty proves to be tops at simply tearing through random encounters. There may be little reason to change him around from the CHOP CHOP 2-handed setup he's got going right now.

(http://i.imgur.com/bahnYjo.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/LIy190l.jpg)

!Control proves to be a constant boon in large groups featuring an enemy of sufficient power as it effectively removes them for long enough to thin the herd. When the hit rate jumps with the right gear, watch out.

(http://i.imgur.com/28I1cnC.jpg)

The only time that the Lamia's Entice was successful, it hit Galuf with the healstick.

(http://i.imgur.com/oi8eOF6.jpg)

The results go about as well as one could imagine.

(http://i.imgur.com/3lZJooA.jpg)

YEEEEESS gimme all the powerful equips. Also I've learned to save weapons and items that have special effects to them because they CAN be useful down the road.

(http://i.imgur.com/xl58XLu.jpg)

I'm pretty much safe in the bank department anyhow and there's always grinding for more cash.

(http://i.imgur.com/VeiNWye.jpg)

This tent is smaller than I am. How do these things work?!

(http://i.imgur.com/xYDZpqR.jpg)

WHOOPS I let this fan... thing go by accident. Oh well. It is a bit of a eureka moment in that if I have the opportunity to capture a monster, I should probably do so. Many have unique attacks/spells/whatnot that are not part of their regular attack lineup and are pretty potent. One way or another, it's best to jump on the opportunity to snatch a baddie up.

(http://i.imgur.com/Tg7CVL5.jpg)

Okay fine Dad I'll do my chores...

(http://i.imgur.com/XaMlTqU.jpg)

Archaeoavis always baffled me a bit. It's weakness and ability change with no readily apparent indication and its defense dips and soars at random points.

(http://i.imgur.com/j8q7dB7.jpg)

It dies and comes back as a sort-of-not-quite-undead version of itself and frankly this fight is always a big mess unless you've got a specific lineup that can quickly react to to its attacks and thus indicated weakness. I don't even get any good pics of the fight. :V

(http://i.imgur.com/gCPHCMg.jpg)

I fully understand little white numbers jumping out of bad guys does them in, however. It goes down after a slog of a fight.
 
(http://i.imgur.com/vaVL28n.jpg)

I don't even get an allowance?! This is why you lost custody.

(http://i.imgur.com/BwRTr0C.jpg)

Krile makes a grand entrance!

(http://i.imgur.com/eDfkRfb.jpg)

It's so grand that it removes all doubt from Galuf's mind!

(http://i.imgur.com/eDuJrk2.jpg)

But OMINOUS THINGS HAPPEN!

(http://i.imgur.com/6rA3hXt.jpg)

Aaaand lets top off our destructive spree with destroying the greatest technological accomplishment in a thousand years. Whoops!

(http://i.imgur.com/eLhCQk8.jpg)

"I was a high altitude tightrope walker..."

(http://i.imgur.com/BJyrnkD.jpg)

IT LOOKS LIKE TEAM COMET IS BLASTING OFF AGAAAAaaaaaaaain *ting*

(http://i.imgur.com/4TKpr9j.jpg)

Well, there's some mopping up to do before heading to world 2 but for now that's it. Still, with the earth crystal jobs in hand, the tension is KILLING me! THAT DOES IT I gotta know who's the anchor for this race! No use waiting for world 2 to let this kick in I might not have another chance to play this until next Monday. Now let's take a look at the resu-

(http://i.imgur.com/XFNVMb3.jpg)

...
.....
.......
.............

(http://i.imgur.com/E0DMDLI.gif)

Such is the fate of Team Great Victory. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Science is Fun for Everyone Except Gilgamesh or Team Hitchhikers Guide to Smashing an Evil Tree.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 02, 2015, 12:59:03 AM
FJF Stream Status: Now On

>Beat Sandworm
>Die before leaving desert due to random encounter
>Beat Sandworm again
>"I'll save state this time"
>Load state
>Back in the Library

fuck everything


Try getting to end-game, at around level 60-70 to deal with Omega, only to hit Load State out of reflex and put yourself back in World 1.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on July 02, 2015, 06:47:04 AM
Try getting to end-game, at around level 60-70 to deal with Omega, only to hit Load State out of reflex and put yourself back in World 1.
That sucks. I think the worst luck I had using a savestate was when I was playing FF1 for the GBA, I loaded a state and saved over my main file...I don't recall the exact details. Remember kids, backups are important!

>chemist hype
SCIENCE WINS! FATALITY! FLAWLESS VICTORY! (https://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=TdXQn_0jKyU)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on July 02, 2015, 04:46:48 PM

Try getting to end-game, at around level 60-70 to deal with Omega, only to hit Load State out of reflex and put yourself back in World 1.
I think I will opt not to try that thank you
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 02, 2015, 07:13:25 PM
I think I will opt not to try that thank you

On the bright side I had Ninja, so that made a lot of things easier. :P


And Mystic Knight, but it was Natural and I was having bad luck.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 02, 2015, 11:16:12 PM
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/8af71828d9d627f1675702dc590f3f9f/tumblr_nqvv47i5uY1rle8ajo6_250.png)(https://41.media.tumblr.com/294b9eee014eb9b59f15472d9fa7b4fb/tumblr_nqvv47i5uY1rle8ajo5_250.png)

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/03c6e23414899f6f29f30cbbfeba02d0/tumblr_nqvv47i5uY1rle8ajo1_250.png)(https://41.media.tumblr.com/f8c0e31938f9bed9f3016cd5b9eb6dcd/tumblr_nqvv47i5uY1rle8ajo2_250.png)
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/f9d61adf4c1f43d76a181a56b474e91d/tumblr_nqvv47i5uY1rle8ajo3_250.png)(https://41.media.tumblr.com/5a4759c33f5508bee31ec78cb8d0a533/tumblr_nqvv47i5uY1rle8ajo4_250.png)

That's the first run, in the books! Omega was too dodge-y for my straight damage race to really be viable, but Shinryuu was trivial (easier than Neo Exdeath!). Probably gonna re-reg after it's processed but dunno if I'll finish it.

EDIT: GODDAMNIT IT GILGABOT THERE ARE JOBS OTHER THAN SUMMONER YOU KNOW
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 03, 2015, 12:38:19 AM
I think your account is rigged  :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 03, 2015, 01:49:45 AM
3 Samurais and 1 Chemist has conquered the Trinity :V



Time to start #5 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: WHMZakeri on July 03, 2015, 02:40:39 AM
(http://puu.sh/iLoYV/5ab03aaf42.png)
I swear this happens every single time. no matter what my party is.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 03, 2015, 02:57:27 AM
Oh yay victory processed. I'll register now.



"Knight"


Looks like I won't be running away for....a long time.



 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on July 04, 2015, 01:34:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/AShU2Vv.png)
It took me grinding to 40-42 to do it, but my first victory of the year has arrived!

Now, let's do a 750 ru......n... White Mage. Well, time to plink at enemies until I get my Water job.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on July 04, 2015, 04:17:48 AM
(http://puu.sh/iMCzU/2edcfad902.png)

Well, I got him on my second try, whoohooo. Act 3 start I guess. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 04, 2015, 09:25:03 PM
Run 5 Completed


(http://i.imgur.com/PgCCVsT.png)



Oh Blue Mage :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on July 05, 2015, 02:00:42 AM
Up to Exdeath's Castle on Beastmaster, Beastmaster, Dancer, Dancer. This party is just  >:( . I hate Beastmaster since I hate having to catch monsters before each boss and Dancer is still complete RNG at this point since I can't get the + Swords Dance stuff yet.

I'm not even looking forward to grinding all the whips I'm going to need in World 3. I need a few of the ones for both creature and Dragon weaknesses. But with those whips and Sword Dance boosting items and some 9,999 full enemy party releases, I might not even need enough HP for Almagest since I might be able to wipe the part out before it can even use it possibly(hopefully, but I could be wrong on how much damage I'll do). Oh wait, I can't use Sword Dance whips outside of the Beastmaster and they won't have Sword Dance UP :fail:. Unless I want to give up some of those 9,999 releases, which would depend on damage done.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 05, 2015, 08:39:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/IZrAJ5t.jpg)

You can't tell from this screenshot, but Krile is the dualcasting, double-raising Red Mage.

Samurai made this possible because throwing money always works. It took about ten tries, though.

I actually thought I was done for this run; Grand Cross put Bersk in... Berserk, and Krile couldn't live through an Almagest. Neo Exdeath was kind enough to Dispel Bersk when he had 100~ HP left, just in time for an Elixir and to start reviving everyone again.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 05, 2015, 12:23:50 PM
You know what's fun?


Getting a Blue Mage, Summoner, and 2 Ninjas. Then having the Blue Mage and Summoner spam Throws with the Ninjas having Blue/Summon equipped.


So much damage.


Edit: So found something interesting and kinda funny. If you Level 5 Death Gilgamesh in Exdeath's Castle, he'll show up in The Rift to block your path, but he won't show up for Necrophobe. Weird.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Serela on July 05, 2015, 02:46:57 PM
Edit: So found something interesting and kinda funny. If you Level 5 Death Gilgamesh in Exdeath's Castle, he'll show up in The Rift to block your path, but he won't show up for Necrophobe. Weird.
Apparently in the FF5Advance version, he doesn't show up in the rift at all if you skip the chest he's in at Exdeath's Castle.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 05, 2015, 02:59:26 PM
It's not just Advance, it's all version of FF5. However I didn't skip the chest. I opened it, fought Gilgamesh, but killed him with Level 5 Death, which meant I skipped the whole "Banished to The Void" thing with him and Exdeath. Including his Transformation as well. I didn't even get the Excalipoor.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on July 05, 2015, 03:12:18 PM
Just finished getting 3x Beast Killer rare steals in the Great Sea Trench with Thief Knife bringing me to 4 of them counting the one you get as a treasure. Grinding rare steals is horrible, even more so when you have to do it with Thief Knife.

Now I need to get some Dragon Whips from the Stingray, but obviously it's not wanting to drop them. Not sure how much I'm going to need/want. It's not like I even get experience from Stingrays either, so this isn't even going to help my survivability any outside of do more damage to Shinryu and Grand Cross part on the final boss.


Edit: Going to go with 3 Dragon Whips. I do have a Chicken Knife after all, and I don't think the Dragon or Creature weaknesses would push the damage enough to outweigh the Chicken knife. Having 4 Beast Killers is a waste for the same reason, should have only stole 2 of those. Just need 1 more whip from the Stingray then I can go start the final area. I'll probably have to do it in a few runs since I'll likely need a few different releases.


I think the only final dungeon bosses I really need releases for are Shinryu for both Berserk and Blind(not sure whether to try for Rainbow Wind or Needle for Blind), and maybe Necrophobe to safely remove the barriers, though I'd definitely grab some 25% HP damage ones for the final boss. Even though I don't think I'll need to have the HP for Almagest, I might end up having it anyway with those final dungeon runs. I may do a run of Istory too and maybe try to get some Mirage Vests to help with Shinryu which would also get me some nice levels hopefully.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 05, 2015, 08:11:09 PM
Not quiiiiiiite FJF, but the sort of challenge gimmick that might also appeal to y'all when FJF is over and/or people start burning out on it specifically. From ultrafilter in the FF5 challenge LP megathread (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3724860) that started with a solo all-abilities-available 'zerker not long before FJF started.

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This thread's been solo runs so far, but one of the other interesting (and slightly less demanding) challenges that I've seen is splitting the jobs across characters so that each job gets assigned to exactly one character. Just for fun, I've written a randomizer (http://www.r-fiddle.org/#/fiddle?id=3Q0rrqha&version=1) that will make the assignments for you. It guarantees that each character gets at least one job from each crystal, but beyond that, there's no attempt to balance anything. You might have Galuf be three different kinds of mage, you might have a Mystic Knight/Bard/Chemist, or anything else. Just click on the "Run Code" button at the bottom right, and the assignments will be printed out at the bottom of the screen.

Edit: The site I used looks like it allows anyone to edit the code. I'm pretty sure that the link I gave will point to the original version no matter what changes are made, but just in case, the code is on Pastebin (http://pastebin.com/1tkBDSU5) too.

Sounds like fun and I'm considering doing it myself in the near future :3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 05, 2015, 11:05:58 PM
Registered again, going for Random.

Got Blue Mage and Knight thus far.

Guess we're going for Brave Blade shenanigans.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 06, 2015, 12:29:43 AM
EDIT: no ignore me I am a dumb and mixing up weapons and shit
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 06, 2015, 01:09:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/oaUyTYg.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes who learned that if it's worth doing...

(http://i.imgur.com/oaUyTYg.jpg)

It's worth overdoing.

(http://i.imgur.com/8ROJVqs.jpg)

Then doing some more.

(http://i.imgur.com/BMxwneA.jpg)

And then doing it to death. GOOD JOB on culling the local turtle population!

(http://i.imgur.com/jCUhlAP.jpg)

The extra 3 levels gained by all of this grinding help make such short work of Titan I can't get a good picture of him being stomped.

(http://i.imgur.com/bmC0v9w.jpg)

The puroroboroaoborationaaaaabluhs are a different matter all together considering their ability to self destruct and lack of a good multitarget captured monster. Good thing I learn that these guys are weak to silence after! :fail:

(http://i.imgur.com/64pexOP.jpg)

It still isn't TOO too bad.

(http://i.imgur.com/MFHWIAe.jpg)

Manticore isn't too bad either.

(http://i.imgur.com/fvwZyHd.jpg)

I'm just itching to get outta here after a whole lot of fast-forwarded grinding.

(http://i.imgur.com/VbMxaR7.jpg)

With a shrug of indifference, we leave all of our obligations behind on a blind gamble and then throw a killer party that results in this scene: Out in the middle of nowhere and sauced out of our gourds. Yay, adult choices!

(http://i.imgur.com/LMCSk4Y.jpg)

Monty breaks the 1k damage barrier and the abductor ain't no thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/hbBjJiO.jpg)

"I have your friends captured... in high definition!"

(http://i.imgur.com/Nn71pVD.jpg)

Galuf ignores all warnings regarding proceeding to Exdeath's castle, and Exdeath promptly forgets his threat. THANKS!

(http://i.imgur.com/7Bn5dyT.jpg)

Galuf promptly switches to Chemistry and I realize he's a touch underequipped but whatevs.

(http://i.imgur.com/Cp6LXAK.jpg)

After scuffling about for a spell, it's high time to perform our first bit of experimenting with the new job.

(http://i.imgur.com/cF02uKh.jpg)

Galuf heartily quaffs a giant tonic and speed shake and it doesn't take me long to realize that it both doubles his survivability for boss fights but doubles his healing rate in a pinch.

(http://i.imgur.com/LFovcIi.jpg)

And Gilgy scarpers with just a wee chemist scratching his nose.

(http://i.imgur.com/lddIimF.jpg)

With the party saved, it's time to casually saunter out of the palace of the greatest threat this world has ever faced.

(http://i.imgur.com/SsDnNth.jpg)

Monty puts his sneaking skills to good use and we're done for this brief update. Such is the fate of Team Solid Walrus. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Battle Over What's In The Fridge or Team Three Blue-Blooded Royals and Their Friend The Bum.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on July 06, 2015, 02:45:33 AM
2x Beastmaster 2x Dancer is finished. I decided to not bother with the 3rd dragon whip even though it would have been useful.

Captured an Aegir before entering the final dungeon.

Took a few tries to get the Omega !Calm thing to work out in my favor.

The rest of the dungeon went decently well. Got to the final save without much trouble. Captured Mammon for Berserk after beating Twintania.


Shinryu took a few tries for Berserk to actually bounce off one of my 2 Reflect Ring characters, but with that and Blind from Aegir's Rainbow Wind, it was easy.


I was too lazy to go back and capture some 25% Max HP full party release monsters. So I didn't have any monsters to release against the final boss. I did have Mirage Vest for the 2 beastmasters for the trick, but the Dancers were using Rainbow Dress for more Sword Dance.

I wanted to go with Dancers with Equip Whips and Beastmasters with Equip Ribbons. I ended up switching the Beastmasters over to Dance secondary since I needed the extra potential Sword Dances since Bartz and Krile were being unreliable with their Chicken Knife and Beast Killer dances on the Almagest part.

First form is quick with Chicken Dance and Maneater Dance since that form is classed as Human type. For the second form I just spammed Dance on the Almagest part(Chicken Knife for Bartz, Beast Killer whip for the other 3) and hoped for enough Sword Dances to kill it while reviving occasionally. I won the first time that I actually got enough Sword Dance procs to get rid of the Almagest part since switching over to Dragon Whisker for 2 of the characters let me do enough damage to Grand Cross part to reset its AI scripts so that potentially dangerous attack was never seen. Then I killed the physical attacker part right after the magic part took a turn, revived the other characters then used Magic Lamp for Odin.



Edit: Started up a new run since it was approved quickly. I'll be starting from a Water Crystal Save this time as the first job was Berserker. Being at a water crystal already means rolling my second job, which was Ninja. Quadzerk for Liquid Flame is going to be horrible(but at least it's not Sandworm or the final boss). I'll probably go GBA this time as well. Underflow isn't really that broken at low levels anyway, and Beastmaster is still a possible draw for Fire and/or Earth rolls which would allow for an easy Omega which definitely is more important a possibility than duplicating stuff endgame with the Thief knife on the original version.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on July 06, 2015, 07:56:30 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/AShU2Vv.png)
It took me grinding to 40-42 to do it, but my first victory of the year has arrived!

Now, let's do a 750 ru......n... White Mage. Well, time to plink at enemies until I get my Water job.

...Time Mage! Now my class setup is different from how my 750 in last year's Fiesta was (last time it was Red Mage). This also means I can kill Shinryu AND Omega!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on July 06, 2015, 10:39:39 PM
Grinded a lot for Liquid Flame quadzerk until i noticed 2 of my characters had HP that would let them survive 4 Blazes assuming they weren't hit by something else. Went at it then. First try went badly, second try was a clear with only Lenna alive at 3 HP left.

Ninja let me grind the Black Flames. Did so until it was mastered. Pretty much sped through the rest of the game after that since I was overleveled by just throwing lots of scrolls and weapons. Didn't even use Chicken knife outside of the agility boost because it was so weak still.

The other 2 classes were Dragoon and Chemist(Gilgabot sure loves giving me Chemist this year, not that I'm complaining). I didn't even bother getting the Dragon Lances(though combining them with Dragon Kiss turning enemies into Dragon Type would have been fun). I just farmed a lot of Dragon Fangs and Turtle Shells, grabbed all Dark Matter chests in the pyramid, then rushed the rest of the game.

Omega was pretty much mostly solo'd with Ninja with Mix(not a true solo, I had others help with the buffing before they died) then revived them near the end for the screenshot. Shinryu was Bacchus Wine followed by Dark Sigh then boosted my berserker's level. For the final boss, I entered with my Berserker dead then buffed up with Mixes in form one. Form 2 didn't stand any chance.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 07, 2015, 12:27:07 AM
Galuf heartily quaffs a giant tonic and speed shake and it doesn't take me long to realize that it both doubles his survivability for boss fights but doubles his healing rate in a pinch.
Assuming you're referring to item/potion use, that last part is actually thanks to the Chemist's passive Pharmacology.  You know, as if that class wasn't redorkulous enough  :V

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Team Crittermancers, assemble!  Onward out of the desert!

(http://i.imgur.com/HKP4nJt.png)
Papa Tycoon starts buffing up his Father of the Year application by playing hide and seek with his daughters daww how precious.

(http://i.imgur.com/QnLoxSx.png)
...and then quickly negates it when he drops us down some ancient mystery hole presumably to our deaths  :ohdear:

(http://i.imgur.com/S9p9duQ.png)
Galuf doesn't appreciate the rest of the gang leaving him for dead lost in an ancient mystery prison hole.  But with our comrades all assembled we wander through the ruins and start hitting buttons.

(http://i.imgur.com/WtpMgCs.png)
Earthquake inducing buttons of course.  However this time instead of trashing our ride, this earthquake leads to an even cool one that can fly!  So cool that lobsters want to tag along too!

(http://i.imgur.com/BPwG1IG.png)
Cray Claw is hilariously weak to my Thundara !Spellblade so not much to say here.  I channel Cinderella once again to summon the squirrels, which despite not being able to hit flying enemies have no problem teleporting up to my airship to do my bidding go figure.

(http://i.imgur.com/eqOJLEA.png)
HALLO? appears to be quite food-motivated much like my cat.  She yells a lot mRRrrrawrROWw which kind of sounds like HALLO? sometimes so it's totes logical.  To the skies!  Again!  For realsies to the Earth Crystal this time!

(http://i.imgur.com/T9bn4R2.png)
The first thing I do is pick a fight with some future Beastmasters and lose whoops.

(http://i.imgur.com/jmeboMz.png)
The next thing I do is swing by ye olde hometowne where some lucky punk who rolled Bard is living in my old house.  On a similar note, how does anyone ever leave/visit?  It was only accessible by airship and we had to unearth that sucker from a thousand year old ruins.

(http://i.imgur.com/X3u81s1.png)
Clearly HALLO? is currently in the middle of his rebellious teenager years during the events of FF5 - dying his hair a natural color.

(http://i.imgur.com/DxMULw4.png)
I love this version so much.

(http://i.imgur.com/68MqOwN.png)
Our free airship isn't good enough at airshipping to make our way to the Earth Crystal so time to pilfer some unobtainium and beat up the turtle who doesn't take kindly to us breaking and entering his house.  On the other hand, given the timespan of the game thus far means he is either a squatter or an intergalactic train hopper so really he can't get that mad.

(http://i.imgur.com/mPjPgYC.png)
That work ethic is why they're fixing the ship and I'm daydreaming about eating mashed potatoes.

(http://i.imgur.com/6GbOhgG.png)
No seriously guys, this time it's going to work perfectly!

(http://i.imgur.com/JuTVAcm.png) (http://imgur.com/JuTVAcm)
The next objective is straight ahead for Team Got The Golden Ticket To Willy Ronka's Soul Cannon Factory Yes I Know I Used That Joke Last Year I Don't Care.  I'm already working on tomorrow's update which will take us through the end of Act 1 and then hooray I am caught up and will actually play again  :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 07, 2015, 07:21:26 AM
Blue Mage is crazy. Level halving > Level 5 death has worked on a number of enemies thus far, including Archeoaevis and Crayclaw.

Level 5 Death on the earlier forms of Archeoaevis causes it to lose its sprite? (http://imgur.com/P5Nq17c)

Anyways. My team composition is... Blue Mage/Knight/Beastmaster/Berserker.

Well. This is still better than Berserker/Berserker/Red Mage/Samurai.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on July 07, 2015, 03:52:25 PM
Rolled my jobs for Run #5 and have Time Mage, Beastmaster, Samurai, and another Chemist. that's 4 Chemists in 5 runs so far.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on July 07, 2015, 06:51:49 PM
Been so long since I start this run again. Been busy with things and trying to finish the Advance version since I didn't finish it yet.

That aside, Team Man and Two Grieving Woman is already out from the ruins, losing Gramps in the process, they decided that they want to follow Gramps since they don't have family anymore.

For that, we need to find another Gramps and his kid. First order to do is apply some rock on a bigger rock, sounds easy huh? NOT!

(http://i.imgur.com/Jz3V0hM.png)

Just how do you beat the crap out of this pile of bombs that can regenerate?

Turns out that they can be beaten when they're out of steam, so I beat the crap out of them, but it took around 15-20 minutes game time I think.

The rest of the rocks are a breeze.

And so, as our hero finished their errands, they now must enter some place unknown by most others, and it is oddly shaped.

(http://i.imgur.com/R2yb1Id.png)

Thus we stop here, as we will continue with this team of orphaned royalty. See you then.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 07, 2015, 07:22:34 PM
Need to not be lazy on my current run (Blue Mage/Mystic Knight/Chemist/Dancer Natural). But things.


Only really posting to say that I found out the IOS/Android versions have an Omega that's 100x more of a dick than others. GREAT  :V




Glad I don't play that version.  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 08, 2015, 12:52:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ls1GGDL.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes on their frantic, panicky escape from Exdeath castle, invariably picking fights with couples enjoying the view and weather along the Big Bridge. Mind you, those couples are between the unholy union of robot chariots and cats with fake wings.

(http://i.imgur.com/2Wx4ATC.jpg)

Gilgy shows up in a noble attempt to stop the team from causing trouble. I try to get cute here by thwacking Gilgy with a silenced sword...

(http://i.imgur.com/DkEINC1.jpg)

But it doesn't stick. Luckily Old from Monty's Ancient Sword does and that pretty much seals the deal.

(http://i.imgur.com/F0GIHrF.jpg)

Well THAT'S not ominous at all!

(http://i.imgur.com/V2s8PXo.jpg)

The force field conveniently smooshes up against the far side of the bridge and flings the party HALF A WORLD AWAY and they land UNHURT. That's how physics work, alright.

(http://i.imgur.com/A2TV0bJ.jpg)

Moseying along quickly reminds me that the lamprey things or whatever they are prove good for grinding for a quick spell. I capture one in the process. It uses Transfusion, which would be fantabulous if you had any method of choosing which party member to use it on. A fairy orc captured later poses the same problem: You have no choice over who will be healed/buffed/etc. for single target spells like this.

(http://i.imgur.com/qbjdslG.jpg)

The same goes for single target attacks used on a pack of monsters, but at least you can pick and choose when to use it and we can save the monster up for release then. When the party is in trouble, you want that Band-Aid right where it's needed most ASAP and Beastmaster's options are limited, time-consuming, and clumsy.

(http://i.imgur.com/MIgeieY.jpg)

Thanks for existing, middle of nowhere town! Hi Potions? Absolutely. I fill my stock. With a Chemist in tow, these are my workhorse source of healing for the rest of the game.

(http://i.imgur.com/r7jRSHf.jpg)

And a full !Drink menu? Yes please.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vw4NqPH.jpg)

Gee thanks for the guidance, kid. Good thing there weren't readily visible si-oh wait.

(http://i.imgur.com/0J2IAJ6.jpg)

And something to look forward to!

(http://i.imgur.com/aLwVQol.jpg)

Since I've heard this is such a thing, I pounce all over the Break spell for Mystic Knight.

(http://i.imgur.com/go7SGlF.jpg)

Monty's got some pretty sweet moves and is rewarded thusly.

(http://i.imgur.com/kcKwRXa.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GftdMUF.jpg)

And then brusquely states that helping your buds is more important than being a hobo. What a pal!

(http://i.imgur.com/q3vUV9O.jpg)

Nope you're not leaving yourself a wide-open target for that one.

(http://i.imgur.com/SKqvtBQ.jpg)

Hey lookie here! Time for some experimentation.

(http://i.imgur.com/CF32SvY.jpg)

As stated previously, !Control works just about everywhere so long as it's a random encounter.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZF90QZy.jpg)

The Shield Dragon doesn't stand a chance. They actually give a rather mediocre 1000 gil and 2500 exp. though. Not a big deal. I DO capture one of the things though.

(http://i.imgur.com/zYLDXBS.jpg)

It uses the infamous Almagest. Not really worth keeping around much considering the rather pitiful ~750 damage it does, but still a sight.

(http://i.imgur.com/driz9Wl.jpg)

I've been in this cave for 3 seconds and we've already encountered two Moogle Eaters. Surely our new found friend is in great shape right about now.

(http://i.imgur.com/jCSQhuf.jpg)

Since there are some meddling blobs in our path, let's give that supposedly broken Break Blade skill a go.

(http://i.imgur.com/Woq85WI.jpg)

Whoops it kicks ass. I'll remember this for any random battle with serious threats.

(http://i.imgur.com/QxiN7bH.jpg)

This guy can be a bit hard to deal with from what I remember last year. Namely, this dude becomes an issue due to the sheer number of attacks it can pull off in quick succession.

(http://i.imgur.com/KvZQtSr.jpg)

I don't pull any punches and down goes the beast.

(http://i.imgur.com/lRPHNE2.jpg)

After going up until Exdeath's Castle without much of anything in the way of healing last year, this is such a comforting sight.

(http://i.imgur.com/6vLRgXG.jpg)

The cherry on top is the addition of a new skill which will see quite a bit of use!

(http://i.imgur.com/ZZdz5Dk.jpg)

I of course have completely forgotten the route and the penalty for avoiding said route beyond "DON'T GO IN THE DESERT YOU DIPSTICK."

(http://i.imgur.com/CzEDW9S.jpg)

I survive unscathed, and after getting lost in the woods, am rewarded for my deeds.

(http://i.imgur.com/pRuIulV.jpg)

There's a Mitch Hedburg bit in here somewheres.

(http://i.imgur.com/NdIUX3I.jpg)

Through the powers of ~PLOT~ there emerges the potential to travel to the next important area.

(http://i.imgur.com/wxL7eyg.jpg)

And suddenly I'd rather be heading back to live in the woods with the unwashed masses there.

(http://i.imgur.com/q7T8qnN.jpg)

It must be nice to have a squadron of quintuplets running the shops. I do a quick inventory check and everyone gets the chance to rest. Such is the fate of Team 'Scientific' Experimentation and Fuzzy Animals DO !Mix. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Not The Kind of Convention I Signed Up For or Team The Knights Demand a Shrubbery. 
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on July 08, 2015, 02:20:18 AM
Big Bridge Gilgamesh is immune to Silence and Time Magic Mute in the GBA and Mobile versions. You can use both methods to silence him in the Playstation and SNES versions.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 08, 2015, 04:22:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/QxiN7bH.jpg)

This guy can be a bit hard to deal with from what I remember last year. Namely, this dude becomes an issue due to the sheer number of attacks it can pull off in quick succession.

You realize he insta-dies to a phoenix down right?
:V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 08, 2015, 11:49:29 AM
Big Bridge Gilgamesh is immune to Silence and Time Magic Mute in the GBA and Mobile versions. You can use both methods to silence him in the Playstation and SNES versions.
Aha! Well, not every enemy can be broken using the obvious methods.
You realize he insta-dies to a phoenix down right?
:V
Yes but that's not much fun. Nor is getting your head bitten off, so I play it in between.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 08, 2015, 02:25:44 PM
You realize he insta-dies to a phoenix down right?
:V
On that note, make sure you don't have Doom Axe equipped on that battle ASK ME HOW I KNOW THAT :fail:

Speaking of :fail: I lost my last update thanks computer!  Story hour will resume later today maybes.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 08, 2015, 04:39:36 PM
Yes but that's not much fun. Nor is getting your head bitten off, so I play it in between.

That's kinda what I figured. Figured I'd mention it just in case you really didn't know the easy way. :3
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 08, 2015, 04:53:38 PM
That's kinda what I figured. Figured I'd mention it just in case you really didn't know the easy way. :3
It's probably this way with a lot of vets. Gimmicky tricks to bowl through a fight can be really fun the first time around, but just plowing through stuff by exploit after exploit gets a bit dry. Using Banish on Byblos this year and Magic Hammer on Omniscient last year? Fun. Would I do either next year? Probably not unless I was having trouble or outright bored, respectively.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 08, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MmUZDm5.png)
Team I'm My Own Personal Lightning Rod takes out Soul Cannon's side guns and is ready to go face to not-face with one of the pain-in-the-ass-est bosses in the game depending on your party make-up and the RNG gods.  I had the former on my side in the form of !Spellblade and Thunder Bow...

(http://i.imgur.com/VYlJe0Q.png)
....I did not have the latter in terms of having my entire team qualify for AARP cards before I took the launchers out.

(http://i.imgur.com/7hXSKcw.png)
It doesn't take long to start doing peanuts for damage.  Access to !Animals was actually quite interesting to have in this battle.  The critter you wind up with is determined by a roll between 0 and your current level, so I knew I was done for when I stopped seeing Nightingale and therefore my level was in the single digits.

(http://i.imgur.com/dWJeCNd.png)
I like those numbers a whole lot more.  I should also mention that it is impossible to see if HALLO? got hit with Old or not in his fashionable Mystic Knight threads oops.  As long as I had one person who dodged those pesty chroniton particles and could dish out the damage I was golden.

(http://i.imgur.com/usxOItp.png) (http://imgur.com/usxOItp)
Once again I am convinced I'm in some alternate reality Disney movie where all the animals are friends  :3

(http://i.imgur.com/wLQ5Y6a.png)
Pops comes back and gets another point in the Father Of The Year category by teaching us a great SAT word. (http://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/clapperclaw)  Unfortunately that whole "words will never hurt me" line doesn't fly when it's up to us to take out Archeoaevis.

(http://i.imgur.com/7zW0XMt.png)
Reminiscent of FF3's Hein battle (aka the only time Scholar is useful, man I don't even want to imagine doing a 4JF with that game) this sucker changes his weakness on you pretty quickly without any sort of cue.  I know it's in a pre-set order but I wasn't about to sit down with my calculator and ~Fiesta math~ out when he was vulnerable to what so I just kinda had to hope I wasn't going to be healing him oops.

(http://i.imgur.com/R4Rsbb3.png)
His final form is the only one that comes with any sort of fanfare, and it's then that he starts getting cheeky and busts out confuse.  HALLO? no you have the Ancient Sword please don't proc it on any-

(http://i.imgur.com/mwz3nKu.png)
 :fail:
Eventually after much plinking he goes down, not a hard battle but it's just a bit of a drag to get through.

(http://i.imgur.com/qHpm2Cj.png)
\o/
wait no I think this is bad

(http://i.imgur.com/4ir4g0D.png)
Krile arrives in a Mode7erite!  Fantastic!

(http://i.imgur.com/y2fCzQ9.png)
Her presence bops the amnesia right out of Galuf.  Again, I just love this game's spirit.

(http://i.imgur.com/U00LIDe.png)
welp that can't be good

(http://i.imgur.com/CGhmEeu.png)
;___;

(http://i.imgur.com/fY1L8RS.png)
And to the surprise of no one the structural integrity yet again is linked to the crystals not being asploded.  On the plus side we're out of them so we're in the clear from here on out on things collapsing/exploding/violation of sound engineering designing around us right??
spoiler: no

Here is where I rolled for my final job - Dancer!  Man that'd go great with that ribbon I didn't bother getting from Karnak huh :fail:

(http://i.imgur.com/b26cFQ6.png)
Godspeed mooncat Galuf on your journey back home o7

(http://i.imgur.com/WgxxFQC.png)
Good thing too, we need to meet the two best characters in the game still and they hang out over yonder.  Let's pay a visit to our local brainiacs who can probably help us out.

(http://i.imgur.com/fal5pNt.png)
ps I still can never land on that stupid thing on the first try.  This isn't going to change this playthrough.

(http://i.imgur.com/ILVmKm8.png)
Looks like we figured out how to power up the MTA bus outta here but we need more batteries.  Time to take on the final 3 bosses of the first act.  After a quick detour to get Float on everyone with like the one time in the game I want Tempting Tango over Sword Dance, I head over to Titan first.

(http://i.imgur.com/q5mgcU0.png)
thx friend

(http://i.imgur.com/FuNjboa.png)
Titan has been reduced to a ticklekitten and also to rubble in short order.  I missed you Jitterbug, my old friend from Fiestas past.

(http://i.imgur.com/ijkgRkG.png)
\o/

(http://i.imgur.com/r59vN17.png)
Sword Dance:  Good

(http://i.imgur.com/MdFQdmm.png)
Bunny That Does Nothing But Look Cute: Bad

(http://i.imgur.com/xVansHn.png)
Aqua Breath When I Don't Have The HP To Live Through Two Of Them: Very Bad

(http://i.imgur.com/zSpWvOx.png)
Purobolos, which must be Greek for "hope you got AoE or stop/silence otherwise lol lol"

(http://i.imgur.com/yDEJqXe.png)
Yup. 

(http://i.imgur.com/zKxTHiI.png)
And with that, the way to teleport off this rock is made clear! (or would be if I could make a gif of it)  We'll be back again soon with Team So Long And Thanks For All The !Fish, I'll streaming Thursday night aww yeah.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 09, 2015, 01:37:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/fal5pNt.png)
ps I still can never land on that stupid thing on the first try.  This isn't going to change this playthrough.

Trying to land on that single damned tile might actually be my least favorite thing in the game.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Chaotic Phoenixma on July 09, 2015, 05:48:20 AM
Who doesn't miss it?


Finished Time Mage, beastmaster, Samurai, Chemist extremely quickly.


First job on the next run, White Mage :( . Second job, Beastmaster, which I'd normally be complaining about but it saves me from what would be the disaster of 4 White mages vs. Byblos. White Mage Berserk + Aegir release guarantees a Shinryu kill, but still no guaranteed Omega kill despite playing the GBA version. White mages and Beastmasters are not enough.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on July 09, 2015, 05:10:13 PM
(http://puu.sh/iSYIu/459777d4c1.png)
(http://puu.sh/iT03Z/f8ee8d10f2.png)
(http://puu.sh/iT04T/99f09aa58c.png)
(http://puu.sh/iT06r/2802e2d9bd.png)
(http://puu.sh/iT07q/4f74e17846.png)

And Neo Exdeath down (with some grinding as shown above), finally got the Classic run done! I might consider doing Shinryu and Omega, but I'm honestly more interested in starting a new run, either Chaos or Team No 750 (maybe with natural thrown on top of it, I rather like Natural).

EDIT: I went with a Chaos run in the end and just decided to spoil myself early on my job lineup. I got Knight, Mystic Knight, Ranger, and Chemist. This is twice now I've had Knight, and this is twice now I've had Mystic Knight and Chemist in a run. Not to mention this is literally the same as if I were to do a Normal run. Goddamnit. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 10, 2015, 05:08:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mYJywWm.jpg)

What's this?

(http://i.imgur.com/4fYbvBo.jpg)

Berserker being useful?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 10, 2015, 02:25:04 PM
Ohhhh yes.

(http://i.imgur.com/k6tq7cj.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/C6ewRcx.png)

See also: Cray Claw, Adamantium Turtle boss, Manticore, Twintania in her flare charge form.... I think those sum up all I DOOM AXE'D my first year.  Having one 'zerker on your team really isn't a problem!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 11, 2015, 04:30:19 AM
I can indeed confirm that the Magic Dragon !Release in Exdeath's castle works wonders. (http://imgur.com/lkLwIsh)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on July 11, 2015, 11:44:54 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/MmgdNrl.png)
We're back to Team Old-Timer Saver, and first order of business is to jump off to a whirlpool.

(http://i.imgur.com/FsWacZf.png)
...and stranded on a jungle, and the girls are kidnapped! Oh no!

(http://i.imgur.com/hgLIuvt.png)
Luckily, there's Bare-fisted Time Mage to the rescue!

(http://i.imgur.com/3HQ1H2E.png)
...but, then he too was kidnapped, and taken somewhere else.
That is, Exdeath's Castle.

(http://i.imgur.com/l1k4FTQ.png)
Galuf to the rescue! And he's riding a Wind Drake, with his granddaughter accompanying him.

(http://i.imgur.com/yvnstbq.png)
After much saving, I just don't get why do they have to sneak past those monsters. Galuf walks past them just fine, and it's not likely that they can sound the alarm and notify Exdeath about intruders... Oh well, better move on.

(http://i.imgur.com/n338JLG.png)
Goddammit Gilgy!

(http://i.imgur.com/FuwpBhf.png)
After blowing Gilgy up, we're got blown up by the next minute or so... and stranded somewhere.

(http://i.imgur.com/6ZpPdqg.png)
Dancing Monks are super deadly, makes the whole Monk Dancer in FFIV much more sense. Better watch out for dancers who knows martial arts now.

(http://i.imgur.com/H6hQEog.png)
And after much cooking bones and then kupos, we now have become moogles, kupo!

(http://i.imgur.com/cFZWm0X.png)
I don't understand this sometimes, a costume can infatuate a certain moogle than the genuine article...

(http://i.imgur.com/Pp0rNLW.png)
After much telepathy shenanigans and flying, we're back to Bal Castle and now we know Galuf's true name, King Just Galuf!

(http://i.imgur.com/zJwK8YJ.png)
And so the warriors must find some weed for them to smoke retrieve and that's it for Team Weed Farmers. Until next time!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 12, 2015, 06:49:03 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/378MLC7.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes who have encountered an enemy with a familiar name.

(http://i.imgur.com/PiyhPvZ.jpg)

We capture one for now for use later. It's very convenient that we find this guy now and one of the nicer bits things programmed into this game. I could be sent on a ridiculous fetch quest but this guy's right next to where it's needed.

(http://i.imgur.com/mDTMfM6.jpg)

Meanwhile, Monty beats up a furry inside his own home. When will it end?!

(http://i.imgur.com/lNBgTP0.jpg)

Exdeath is impervious to the Garland method of dealing with opponents! GASP!

(http://i.imgur.com/yCzmj78.jpg)

See?! This guy's alright.

(http://i.imgur.com/PIydKGI.jpg)

The wizard pops out of the well in town. He takes the Kornago frog and 10k gil for a special equip for our Beastmaster. And then he eats the frog. I think this guy is a lot more trouble than the locals, surely.

(http://i.imgur.com/9nODniS.jpg)

While not an impressive accessory statwise, the gourd makes catching enemies a lot easier. 1/4th hp is a huge difference in comparison to 1/8th.

(http://i.imgur.com/X6KV94R.jpg)

Sounds like a troubling upper respiratory problem. We've got a chemist in case you want some drugs.

(http://i.imgur.com/hin64Og.jpg)

The dragon zombies on Drakenvale are a spot of trouble if they hit you with their poison breath move, so it's best to deny them any opportunity to use it.

(http://i.imgur.com/5QJByZ6.jpg)

WHY THANKS, FRIEND! I sure won't exploit this before I head to Exdeath's castle.

(http://i.imgur.com/LbRcCFJ.jpg)

Hallo frind wate wre u goin?

(http://i.imgur.com/6IbSlQm.jpg)

WOAH there Chumlee, don't be a jerk.

(http://i.imgur.com/mYnM613.jpg)

Yeaaahhhhhhh no.

(http://i.imgur.com/eTWi3PO.jpg)

Here you go, bro.

(http://i.imgur.com/D8IGU10.jpg)

No worries, buddy. Now to wish I could summon you on command for the rest of the game. ;___;

(http://i.imgur.com/KIoXQFx.jpg)

Although my strategies have never revolved around using this thing, I always collect it to be on the safe side.

(http://i.imgur.com/0djvjps.jpg)

YES this is a great day for Beastmaster Faris.

(http://i.imgur.com/MvvOAIp.jpg)

This is basically like the one main equip I'll have on Faris throughout the game. It's the same spirit as the Gold Hairpin: Useful throughout the remainder of the game regardless of equip strength due to how potent it's other property is.

(http://i.imgur.com/Xy4lSOK.jpg)

The !Control success rate jumps from 40% to like 75% or 80% I can't remember which. Who cares though? It's fantastic and works against pretty much everything that's not a boss.

(http://i.imgur.com/M7vgf51.jpg)

Newman: "Vile weed!"

(http://i.imgur.com/eS5y3np.jpg)

With !Mix now officially a thing, I give it a test on the local floral abomination.

(http://i.imgur.com/AWBfmVP.jpg)

Shadow Flare is only so painful but it's quite a sight.

(http://i.imgur.com/WfTwTQx.jpg)

Unfortunately, this is a boss you just want to just CHOP CHOP through.

(http://i.imgur.com/LwdSnj6.jpg)

Uhm, so....

(http://i.imgur.com/FoL8dlW.jpg)

I ain't diggin' yer cheap dirty tricks, bucko!

(http://i.imgur.com/Stgqf0f.jpg)

I stop being cute and try a couple odds and ends.

(http://i.imgur.com/aDxIoCS.jpg)

Samson's Might or whatever from !Mix does prove effective but it's still only so much.

(http://i.imgur.com/eMNB6IS.jpg)

Cutting down the flowers before they get some attitude only works so well.

(http://i.imgur.com/0SJpUAN.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EEurNl2.png) Yup enough of your bullcrap, mister. GET SHREKT SHRUB.

(http://i.imgur.com/8z7jvX5.jpg)

Castle Bal has a useful reverse toilet.

(http://i.imgur.com/ETORCG4.jpg)

Oh I forgot to get this the first time through. It's a good magic defense equip for Galuf the chemistry major. Resistant to poison, too.

(http://i.imgur.com/uFePMEq.jpg)

Hey! Edgar was so well liked his servants practically gave him stuff. What gives?!

(http://i.imgur.com/4DPQeS0.jpg)

The foul language in this game is really starting to ruffle my feathers if you don't mind my French.

(http://i.imgur.com/WhXhQBc.jpg)

I think the writers just wanted you to do something else first than meet Ghido.

(http://i.imgur.com/S9VnsTj.jpg)

Hoi chummer let's geek some deckers.

(http://i.imgur.com/BbJfh9K.jpg)

Would a backrub help? It's helped me in other games.

(http://i.imgur.com/JDJssRk.jpg)

Through your boat? Would you be willing to reconsider?

(http://i.imgur.com/SAVwEvM.jpg)

After the overgrown rhododendron incident, I don't have the patience to stomach poor Gilgy as much as I normally do.

(http://i.imgur.com/4fBluaL.jpg)

Maybe next time, guy.

(http://i.imgur.com/neMeMyP.jpg)

Such is the fate of Team !Mix This, You Buttface. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team We All Live in a Yellow Submarine or Team Ground Control to Major Tom Your Circuit's Dead There's Something Wrong.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 12, 2015, 07:14:52 PM
Blue Mage's repertoire is complete, with Equip Shield on for Aegis.
Zerker is Two-Handing a Rune Axe and killing everything.
Knight is Two-Handing Brave Blade and killing everything.
I've mostly just been !Catching things with Kornago Gourd if Zerker doesn't OHKO. Nothing interesting in Act 3, though.

There's a question of whether I want to max out everybody's Beastmaster job so I can Breath Wing x3 against Neo Exdeath. Against the four parts, that's 119,988 damage in three moves! But then I lose stuff like two-handed...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: theshirn on July 12, 2015, 07:58:58 PM
Well, beat NED and Shinryu.  I simply don't have the tools to deal with Omega, though. :(

Process already Gilgabot, I want another run!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on July 14, 2015, 09:00:33 AM
Okay so I finally got back around to trying to do the FJF - or rather, FBF (Four Bard Fiesta because that's all I could use)

Sandworm got its ass whooped again after grinding to 25.  It still sucked.
Crayclaw literally only ever physical attacked once so it was trivial.

...Adamantoise is an asshole though.  You see, he does 400-ish damage on the front row (200-ish on the back).  Due to huge physical defense, he takes <20 damage per attack from the front row; ~8 in the back.  The only saving grace is the Silver Harp, which - because of 50% magic evade and shell - has a ~25% chance to hit for one sixteenth of its max HP.

I caved.

I Job Faired Summoner

I just didn't want to put up with that.  I didn't want to put up with trying to slowly carve down archaeoavis too.  And I've always wanted to Summoner because of all the extra fights I'll have.

Streaming will resume tomorrow evening, now with much more energy and a stupid broken team (Summoner, Samurai, Chemist, Dancer)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 15, 2015, 01:48:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/VvRXcly.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes getting ambushed in an attempt to finally put an end to their reign of terror.

(http://i.imgur.com/GdDfx8u.jpg)

Unfortunately, these dragons are not immune to suggestion.

(http://i.imgur.com/o4CmDwe.jpg)

Namely, bumping off their friends,

(http://i.imgur.com/zTnjFez.jpg)

And then themselves...

(http://i.imgur.com/qbaHWx1.jpg)

I steal a bunch of things I never wind up using but whatevs.

(http://i.imgur.com/3NhAx5l.jpg)

I DON'T grind for reflect rings this year even though I may regret it. I just never used them. It looks as if they might be useful sooner or later but with a low drop rate it just took me forever to get them last time and my time with the game got a bit sour. :( I think I can get them in a place or two later.

(http://i.imgur.com/GdUGbcI.jpg)

Free stuff on the roadside is always in the cards though.

(http://i.imgur.com/dqyrHZt.jpg)

Xezat pwns some nubs as you kids like to say.

(http://i.imgur.com/Jwzcfrn.jpg)

Remember how much of a threat these guys are?

(http://i.imgur.com/lPrDWcI.jpg)

Yeah neither do I.

(http://i.imgur.com/xaYYl69.jpg)

Whatever, Mr. Imperial Guard.

(http://i.imgur.com/vDwD08w.jpg)

Atomos definitely earns his rep as one of those bosses that make you want to pull your hair out.

(http://i.imgur.com/PMfE4TB.jpg)

Knocking him out helps buy a LOT of time even if it doesn't proc all the time and you wake him up instead of knock him out once he's asleep.

(http://i.imgur.com/HTHGPnz.jpg)

The tactic works just fine and he's done before much trouble starts.

(http://i.imgur.com/ful3cnt.jpg)

Things blow up and so does our friend. :(

(http://i.imgur.com/9By3bEQ.jpg)

Drowning our sorrows by piano certainly helps.

(http://i.imgur.com/TJaAmkO.jpg)

Noooo! I need to find out how much I've screwed up the Brave Blade through sheer laziness!

(http://i.imgur.com/27tkcNN.jpg)

These'll sure come in handy with Lenna as my magnificent Mystic Knight.

(http://i.imgur.com/p61Lp9k.jpg)

This is the default damage against the local squishies.

(http://i.imgur.com/JjGE9BT.jpg)

With the 3rd tier spell, its an insta-kill on anything weak to the element. I think it's just insane damage to heavy enemies/bosses too. Not getting swizzed here.

(http://i.imgur.com/z9lrrNz.jpg)

I keep the Sleep Swords just for yuks and between one of those and Faris's paralyzing whip, these guys typically don't even get the chance to fight back regardless of their HP pool.

(http://i.imgur.com/GPIwUGF.jpg)

The party is not impressed when they find out his metamorphosis "skill" involves just swapping clothes. In front of the party. Ew!

(http://i.imgur.com/ImHKWYo.jpg)

Monty's love of animal abuse continues.

(http://i.imgur.com/10gCnSJ.jpg)

SWEET JEEBUS.

(http://i.imgur.com/4qQk2b9.jpg)

Thank you, Captain Stereotype!

(http://i.imgur.com/v6gpUvh.jpg)

Ghido gives out snark like it's AOL free trials in the late 90's and early 00's.

(http://i.imgur.com/44agJh5.jpg)

I'm sure the same would happen if the neighborhood dog was allowed to piddle on it everyday during walkies, too.

(http://i.imgur.com/fpteL5Q.jpg)

We get our Plot Advancer 9000 (TM) and trudge back out. Such is the fate of Team Attracted the Attention of the FFSPCA. Join us next time for Team Don't Tell Smokey About This One or Team Maybe I'd Better Unequip the Healstick ;_;
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on July 15, 2015, 04:38:51 AM
STREAM ON (http://www.hitbox.tv/garlyle) OFF and stuff
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Validon98 on July 15, 2015, 03:11:23 PM
(http://puu.sh/j0a68/c83c59a631.png)

The fun part about Chemist is grinding out to 99 items in Act 1 and accidentally making it so Galuf will never catch up in levels ever.

EDIT:

(http://puu.sh/j0bGV/3288693808.png)

Case in point!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 17, 2015, 12:03:29 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/gqzy6x6.png)


Monk and Dancer is such a stupid combo :V The good kind. Chemist just made it more OP. That was around level 32 I believe with 1 Dragon's Power and a Crit.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on July 17, 2015, 01:56:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/gqzy6x6.png)


Monk and Dancer is such a stupid combo :V The good kind.

Told ya, they're very dangerous. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 18, 2015, 02:18:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2NJ27lq.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes at the conclusion of the filming of their heavy-handed late 80's movie with a cloyingly sweet Aesop about being friendly to the environment.

(http://i.imgur.com/JproU6H.jpg)

And they are immediately beset by an angry audience who doesn't care for such gross misrepresentation.

(http://i.imgur.com/Y71QUpC.jpg)

Since the enemies are only so hardy, I try !Calm for the first time but it doesn't seem to work as promised? Some studying may be in order as this'll probably save my bacon for Omega.

(http://i.imgur.com/SZDSLRS.jpg)

I put on my robe and...

(http://i.imgur.com/q04uLSe.jpg)

The high encounter rate mixed with their ability to spam status attacks makes for a difficult romp through the woods.

(http://i.imgur.com/hhQH1Ny.jpg)

Luckily the party makeup makes it simple to just bowl over everything and then have Galuf use the healstick on the side.

(http://i.imgur.com/P9JL49Y.jpg)

Ever seen Cabin in the Woods? Good movie.

(http://i.imgur.com/IPuymWd.jpg)

Galuf the Chemist is the only one who can use this. Thanks for reminding me game. :(

(http://i.imgur.com/RQ3NxRF.jpg)

Swapping !Calm back for !Control proves to be useful when some of the local goons decide to get a bit more uppity.

(http://i.imgur.com/Yq2i9F0.jpg)

Someone left the oven on!

(http://i.imgur.com/yg3wX3O.jpg)

Hello, old friend. It's so good to see you again.

(http://i.imgur.com/BzuOoUh.jpg)

Our moogle buddy helps out.

(http://i.imgur.com/aNXjEyd.jpg)

And the all important refresher before the boss fight. Good thing because I got in like 8 fights before progressing even though this is 2 screens away. Even after the forest is reduced to cinders, the same chumps try to intervene in full force the moment I step back outside. >:(

(http://i.imgur.com/nne53Lt.jpg)

These crystals gave me all sorts of trouble last year due to how magic accuracy works.

(http://i.imgur.com/jdu3Kix.jpg)

Unfortunately, in return, I haven't quite figured out just how accuracy works for spellblade shenanigans instead. These guys can't be hit by any weapon with spellblade on it unless it's something like Break or Sleep. Even Bio yields 0% accuracy.

(http://i.imgur.com/3xpNBHZ.jpg)

Yeah my tolerance for the debacle that was the terrible accuracy of Blue Mage's spells last year is in the negative numbers.

(http://i.imgur.com/ct9wWTr.jpg)

With a couple strategems apiece thrown out the window for either not working at all or working all to well, tactics are swapped to a basic gameplay method: Hit hard when healthy, heal constantly when not. Monty withers an individual crystal down to half health and then the whole team blitzes in order to wipe it out before it does too much damage.

(http://i.imgur.com/ad7hYPH.jpg)

Sick of even coming close to death, Galuf gives Monty enough Samson's Might tonics to kill an elephant. The results are a x2 damage boost. Very effective!

(http://i.imgur.com/L2hvBIf.jpg)

Hey!

(http://i.imgur.com/RfNMv90.jpg)

Rude.

(http://i.imgur.com/ks847pV.jpg)

I always thought it looked like Exdeath had a lot of purple hair and he had really doofy decorations on his legs.

(http://i.imgur.com/kavMVMK.jpg)

Just in case you were wondering if Galuf was cool or not. Galuf gets his licks in, too.

(http://i.imgur.com/vUWhB7r.jpg)

Yeah I've heard that one befo-

(http://i.imgur.com/fA8Py1f.jpg)

Oops.

(http://i.imgur.com/QFtn35M.jpg)

Wait wait wait.

(http://i.imgur.com/gUqKeag.jpg)

:(

(http://i.imgur.com/x6btGG2.jpg)

Krile takes up the standard and charges forward but seriously Exdeath's castle is next you think I'm crazy?

(http://i.imgur.com/eOPqc3l.jpg)

Such is the fate of Team Empty Chairs and Empty Tables. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Siege of Seringapatam or Team Revenge is a Dish Best Served Blizzaga Bladed.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on July 18, 2015, 03:26:06 AM
Quote
These guys can't be hit by any weapon with spellblade on it unless it's something like Break or Sleep. Even Bio yields 0% accuracy.

Things're immune to Poison-elemental attacks. Remember, this is when element-null didn't show numbers (that didn't start until 6), which also affects elemental physicals. Since break and sleep are non-elemental, those do show numbers, even though the crystals are immune to petrify and sleep. I forget their other immunities, though... except instant death-succeptible thanks to unheaviness.

Edit: Anyway... my second run, the jobs are now White and Time Mages and Geomancer. Going to have to break thunder rods on the Solcannon since the danged thing is immune to wind; thankfully I have slow and haste to delay being Wave Cannoned.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on July 18, 2015, 04:17:12 PM
So far, Barehanded Sword Dance blazes through everything up to Atomos. Is there one boss that could pose a difficulty later?
Also, I farmed 2 Reflect Rings. Is that enough?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Axel Ryman on July 18, 2015, 04:34:34 PM
I wouldn't exactly say boss-wise you'd have an issue, but you will have an issue in the Pyramid due to all the Undead.

Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 20, 2015, 10:36:45 PM
Things're immune to Poison-elemental attacks. Remember, this is when element-null didn't show numbers (that didn't start until 6), which also affects elemental physicals. Since break and sleep are non-elemental, those do show numbers, even though the crystals are immune to petrify and sleep. I forget their other immunities, though... except instant death-succeptible thanks to unheaviness.
Yeah I'm just not used to it yet. Spellblade does NOT work exactly as it does in Bravely Default and it takes some getting used to. I thought Bio would revert attacking to a normal property with poison as a status effect, but nope. Oh well. Live and learn. It's only good when the enemy is weak to a particular element/status.

(http://i.imgur.com/xkPUTDf.jpg)

We rejoin our heroes out to capture some elusive prey: Namely, these ironback monsters are supposed to pack quite a punch. Not pictured: A whole boatload of grinding I did for more dragon fangs. These have proven to be EXORBITANTLY useful and versatile and you'll see why shortly! Also not pictured: Poor screencaps of the ironback kicking teeth in. Let's do it.

(http://i.imgur.com/1KL9gOn.jpg)

With the party fully equipped and enough consumables and helpful items in tow to kill a dozen pack mules, we're finally prepared for Exdeath's castle.

(http://i.imgur.com/39pePlr.jpg)

Furry dude, noooooo!

(http://i.imgur.com/aFGPXMo.jpg)

Man the interior decorator of this place sucks.

(http://i.imgur.com/9YDOyTY.jpg)

And who designs halls that are one person long and shift directions so many times?

(http://i.imgur.com/ZIwFBxy.jpg)

Amongst the many tricks up your friendly local Chemist's sleeve is a !Mix combo that will cause Float on one teammate. Although only usable in battle, the status stays until you rest or have certain magic cast on you.I use it to its full effect,

(http://i.imgur.com/fTIamD5.jpg)

...but forget too late that there's nothing of value to my party hidden in the lava.

(http://i.imgur.com/sCO3B8d.jpg)

Instead, I luck out and one of the baddies drops a weapon that'll cause Shinryu to go berserk right when I wa-oh wait I have a Chemist it's a moot point anyhow.

(http://i.imgur.com/BD3t8Ew.jpg)

Haha! First try!

(http://i.imgur.com/tMrlDRo.jpg)

And haha again!

(http://i.imgur.com/UcDhkYR.jpg)

The local dragons can be real dangerous if you aren't prepared. Fortunately, !Control is just so much more awesome than I ever thought it could be.There are also groups of 3 Blue Dragons which will attack overlapped like so. Quite a dangerous bunch.

(http://i.imgur.com/TiJmFEC.jpg)

However, Lenna's Break Blade petrifies them in a single hit.

(http://i.imgur.com/peGcODs.jpg)

Mixing this knowledge with the Hasty-Ade option via !Mix means that she tears through entire parties with ease!

(http://i.imgur.com/0qLdDci.jpg)

Carbuncle storms in with boss music blaring. Unfortunately, !Mix allows me to apply a buff which allows me to cover my own team with reflect and then boosts their resistance to elemental damage on top of that. Whoops?

(http://i.imgur.com/ddxaRyc.jpg)

Once Carbunkle's elemental barriers go down, his weaknesses go up. Monty's new Icebrand gives Carbuncle more than flesh wound, and Lenna's Air Knife does respectable damage as-is.

(http://i.imgur.com/rQElK1a.jpg)

Hello friend. Let's dance!

(http://i.imgur.com/b3hfneq.jpg)

!Mixing some potions with dragon fangs provides a combo that boosts your level by 20 for the battle!

(http://i.imgur.com/t2qvF9F.jpg)

It's effects are stackable and potent. Gilgy takes a beating.

(http://i.imgur.com/7Fbi1w6.jpg)

;_;

(http://i.imgur.com/iwzIawp.jpg)

Hey where u goin?

(http://i.imgur.com/egtlZ3h.jpg)

Well, uh, good to see that workout program has turned out alright?

(http://i.imgur.com/ywdbV1s.jpg)

Gilgy has the same reaction that I did when someone told me that combat, PVP, and gameplay variety were better in the original Dark Souls in comparison to 2.

(http://i.imgur.com/3F8UAs6.jpg)

Oh and we get an encounter all of one step from the door.

(http://i.imgur.com/PpnI2zE.jpg)

No go away smellypants. >:(

(http://i.imgur.com/ke50AJR.jpg)

WHOOPS hey those are your dad's Playboys!

(http://i.imgur.com/J0HSS5e.jpg)

Petty larceny?

(http://i.imgur.com/cvOPJSZ.jpg)

I kick things off by having Faris's stored friend kick off Exdeath.

(http://i.imgur.com/yixssEW.jpg)

Like in the Gilgamesh fight, Monty is given Dragon Power mixes. He serves as the boss buster here. His damage output increases pretty dramatically with each one.

(http://i.imgur.com/RXPWT65.jpg)

Exdeath can dish out some serious hurt with Vacuum Wave and the rest of his moves can spell trouble if you let them ad up, but again, !Mix does it all except multitarget healing for maximum efficiency.

(http://i.imgur.com/SQ7n3mC.jpg)

With Monty's level closer to the magical number of 255 than 0, !Mix keeping everyone on their toes, and the remaining party acting in support, Exdeath goes down hard.

(http://i.imgur.com/9x8IAix.jpg)

You know shit be going down in a Final Fantasy game when crystals are exploding like Mega Man on spikes.

(http://i.imgur.com/frr3j1y.jpg)

I... think we're right back in Kansas again, Toto. Such is the fate of Team Castle Crashers. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Splitting Up Always Worked for Scooby and the Gang or Team Not Without My Chocobo.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 21, 2015, 12:44:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ERHpU1N.png)
Meanwhile back in World 1-8, Team Dance Like You Want To Win realizes they beat all the bosses and need to jump into the pipe to 2-1.  Pipe, swirly vortex of potential doom, same diff.

(http://i.imgur.com/4tnVz4K.png)
Interplanetary travel: what are seatbelts??
It's only a matter of time after landing that we find ourselves in jail again.

(http://i.imgur.com/Wr4iRpR.png)
We don't have a great track record in this department.  I fully expect next time we're just going to directly crash our airship into a prison and combine both our glaring flaws.

(http://i.imgur.com/mSbzMl2.png)
Somehow this serves as a hologram to Galuf and crew who are otherwise pre-occupied with busting into Casa de Exdeath?  I never really understood how this game's technology operates.  Nonetheless, it works and Galuf comes rushing in to our aid!

(http://i.imgur.com/y48qjRc.png)
In keeping the spirit of the fiesta, I always put Gramps on what class I didn't use for the last boss of World 1, so Dragoon it is!  Look at that swanky purple armor, fit for a king!

(http://i.imgur.com/SJrdyx8.png)
Gilgy :* :*
A solo boss battle follows, not very difficult but we do need to show Gilgy the business end of that spear.

(http://i.imgur.com/KelfpSq.png)
oh bby
it only gets worse from here on in for you  :ohdear:

(http://i.imgur.com/iDOZ1pu.png)
Gramps ain't letting Team Let's Ruin Everything We Touch But Now On A New Planet off the hook for the little detour.  But hey, now I get to see all four of my classes in action....

(http://i.imgur.com/PTESDC6.png)
...on a Big Bridge where Battles happen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHbYIbleQP8) :dragonforce:  Trash mob battles, yadda yadda but halfway down the line...

(http://i.imgur.com/1HVNw6U.png)
Gilgy 2.0! 

(http://i.imgur.com/5VF3HoR.png)
Ancient Sword earns its keep again aww yeah did I mention I love getting to use a sword for the first time in 3 years?  Halfway through the battle Gilgy then takes off the kid gloves and is a dirty cheater by using Jump without any delay in the air how rude.  Someone's definitely packing !Time because Gravity otherwise don't work that way. My healing at this point is either RNG !Dance or RNG !Animals and boy I'm really feeling it in this battle  :(

(http://i.imgur.com/F8wJT7Z.png)
2 DOWN
3 TO GO

(http://i.imgur.com/Kg1WvQ9.png)
Garula(s?) live here too?  What could it mean  ??? ???

(http://i.imgur.com/NKdRMEt.png)
Meanwhile Exdeath puts up this little fancy bubble of NO GO AWAY which may or may not blast us halfway around the world oops

(http://i.imgur.com/vUock7L.png)
I'm not sure if the emphasis should be on the meddlesome or the bums part.  We're really good at both!  Let's keep at it as we bum across wherever the heck we wound up!

(http://i.imgur.com/dBtaslx.png)
ewwww gross I don't think I like this planet very much.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZB7leuk.png)
Plot Flag Status: Raised

(http://i.imgur.com/WMFWf2q.png)
 :o :o :o :o
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL

(http://i.imgur.com/Qndt5td.png)
AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT

(http://i.imgur.com/VbJJFAm.png)
Well I did roll Dancer....

(http://i.imgur.com/ENLCvxx.png)
What a coincidence, that's how I look if I try to dance in real life! :fail:
'nuff of that, onward!

(http://i.imgur.com/CUyQJDx.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/vJcOXW6.gif)
Uh yeah let's go somewhere with a significantly lower chance of getting murdered in the face.

(http://i.imgur.com/6LWc2Rr.png)
Oh hey I found a Plot Forest!

(http://i.imgur.com/hcMcWNs.png)
We see a little Moogle Friend inside who promptly falls down a hole and now it's our turn to fall down a h- HEY THAT SOUNDS FAMILIAR.

(http://i.imgur.com/sMMUGKp.png)
moogle bby this is a really bad place to be :(

(http://i.imgur.com/BKKVJZx.png)
That's not foreboding, that's not foreboding at all.

(http://i.imgur.com/ughMmGS.png)
After making our way through we meet up with Mooglefriend and our not-friend Tyrannosaur.  This year I decided to not be cheeky and opted against an insta-kill.  We'll do this the ol' fashioned way!

(http://i.imgur.com/OBsNkpZ.png)
PICTURED: forgetting that using !Dance against undead is a 50/50 chance of backfiring :fail:
NOT PICTURED: getting hit for over 4000 what the crap is that about :(

(http://i.imgur.com/mSY93mk.png)
ugh good riddance

(http://i.imgur.com/vhn5pYf.png)
Mooglefriend is so appreciative she shows us the way to Moogletown without taking inadvertent dirt (sand?) naps.

(http://i.imgur.com/DLeisAm.png)
Aww how cute they think I would respect other people's property.

(http://i.imgur.com/mwMg7k2.png)
:fail:

(http://i.imgur.com/YOxmTcr.png)
I'm going to a convention this weekend but it's not THAT kind of convention.

(http://i.imgur.com/UfHE0Yk.png)
I said NOT THAT KIND OF CONVENTION :ohdear:

(http://i.imgur.com/ecFvTvA.png)
Meanwhile Krile's Mooglefriend picks up the Mooglephone and learns the whereabouts of our motley crew, and she heads off to fetch us from :3 forest and bring us back to her.... castle??

(http://i.imgur.com/SdscCHv.png)
o/

That's all for today folks!  Don't forget to tune in next time for the saga of Team Pray To RNGsus For Healing ;_; I swear now that all my Otakon stuff is done I'll be catching up now  :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 21, 2015, 02:09:24 AM
I'm going to a convention this weekend but it's not THAT kind of convention.

I said NOT THAT KIND OF CONVENTION :ohdear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2OAmJkjDEc
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on July 21, 2015, 04:46:13 PM
Beat Exdeath, he's a toughie, got numerous Return casts just to beat him.

And now I have a hard time in the Pyramid. Undead is a bane for Dance, but Barehanded still prove useful. The real threat is the chests, Cursed Beings are the monsters. Luckily, I can still buy rods, but I'm short on money, and also short on recovery items. I don't know the place to money grind for early Merged World. Any advice?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 21, 2015, 05:35:39 PM
I forget just how limited your options are at the moment. You either are or will be able to run around the entire world map on Boko. All in all, I think you might be better off just sticking nearby and beating up the locals. Restock your supplies and head back into the pyramid. Doubly so since monks need levels so badly. I'm not back there myself quite yet so I haven't had the chance to give it a look.

PS: How does !Rapid Fire with a monk (still dunno if I should capitalize these or not) work in comparison to waiting for Sword Dance to activate? Once you get the Kaiser Knuckle it'll definitely be worth giving a look if you haven't already. With the magic pots in Phoenix Tower soon available, grinding up to get a better setup shouldn't take long.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 21, 2015, 06:06:09 PM
So Red Dragons have Lv 3 Flare as a !Control ability? Through some ungodly rng, would it be possible in the Barrier Tower to

1) Equip Reflect Rings on the party
2) !Catch/Release a Neon to cast Reflect, bouncing it onto the Red Dragon
3) !Control Red Dragon, have it cast Lv 3 Flare on itself
4) Pray it hits Blue Mage, learn spell?

It gets a nice chunk of use on random encounters before you reach Exdeath, and it also means you can keep your levels away from Lv 3 during the already hectic Exdeath fight. Still going out of your way and requires Beastmaster, though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 21, 2015, 07:32:59 PM
So Red Dragons have Lv 3 Flare as a !Control ability? Through some ungodly rng, would it be possible in the Barrier Tower to

1) Equip Reflect Rings on the party
2) !Catch/Release a Neon to cast Reflect, bouncing it onto the Red Dragon
3) !Control Red Dragon, have it cast Lv 3 Flare on itself
4) Pray it hits Blue Mage, learn spell?

It gets a nice chunk of use on random encounters before you reach Exdeath, and it also means you can keep your levels away from Lv 3 during the already hectic Exdeath fight. Still going out of your way and requires Beastmaster, though.
Wait, you can't cast Lvl 3 Flare on yourself that way?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 21, 2015, 10:48:31 PM
Can confirm that Lv 3 Flare cannot be targeted at anyone but "Enemy Party".
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on July 22, 2015, 10:02:48 PM
What's that?  Stream more fiesta? (http://www.hitbox.tv/garlyle).  Don't mind if I do.  Assuming internet holds itself up.
EDIT: strem end
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 23, 2015, 12:14:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/IB1p1RY.png)
Upon landing at Castle Bal, looks like we've been upgraded to Team And You Get A Crown, And You Get A Crown.... well except the so-called main character sry bby

(http://i.imgur.com/5SaqlOt.png)
Not for moment sir!  Once I get control again time to swipe everything that's not nailed down!

(http://i.imgur.com/qmHQApb.png)
Here's one present that I got to use last year that I'm going to really really wish I had for the next dungeon :fail:

(http://i.imgur.com/VbnSWZ1.png)
Unfortunately this planet isn't New Vegas recently and I can't just walk up behind a register and loot it oops.
Our next order of business is to fix up our most recent mode of transportation because of course something's wrong with it - our dragon buddy is sick and medical marijuana is legal on this planet.

(http://i.imgur.com/oMzyIV2.png)
Oh hey I bet I know what the next dunge-

(http://i.imgur.com/C603dZI.png)
 :V :V :V
The plant we need is growing on top of a mountain... wait that sounds really familiar.....  There's a village of werewolves bottlenecking the only way to the mountain, and they aren't too happy to see us.

(http://i.imgur.com/1WAs2ja.png)
To be fair that's not terribly far removed from what happened.

(http://i.imgur.com/CujXspE.png)
We are then challenged to a duel!  Who shall be victorious?

(http://i.imgur.com/YVAS9RA.png)
:toot:

(http://i.imgur.com/ZJVQF3G.png)
~*~backstory happens~*~ Surprise you're half alien!

(http://i.imgur.com/es0gaMY.png)
Hmm yes an exceptionally good point my friend.
After storytime we now have the trust of Werewolfsburg and we can go shopping. 

(http://i.imgur.com/zNbw5L3.png)
This bad boy will be an important part of my gameplan for the next couple of bosses (for better or for worse)
Onward up the mountain!

(http://i.imgur.com/fZ7cqoV.png)
What a unique shot I have certainly not seen in the past 8 hours of gameplay nope.

(http://i.imgur.com/Yp97QQU.png)
Oh no skelesaurs are after Golem!  We gotta go beat them up.

(http://i.imgur.com/VNQRPK9.png)
I don't have summoner ;______;
Once we make our way to the peak...

(http://i.imgur.com/dPNLXhJ.png)
DRAKENVALE used VINE WHIP
It's super effective!

(http://i.imgur.com/g4i9RIx.png)
I agree but alas, it's boss time!  Dragon Plant is one of Those Bosses that you either roflstomp through or claw your way to victory.  Last year I just spammed !Kick and wiped out the little baby flowers in one shot, and before that I got a DOOM AXE proc right off the bat.

(http://i.imgur.com/722h8cA.png)
Knowing that the main maple isn't heavy and that my Killer Bow had a pretty low activation rate and thus wasn't worth banking on, I decided I'd get cheeky with some status ailment !Spellblade shenanigans that'd one shot the sucker if it hits. Spoiler:
it doesn't

(http://i.imgur.com/AHcaAFq.png)
wat no stop

(http://i.imgur.com/Zv3NpIN.png)
Welp that went swimmingly.  Take two!  Grass type is strong against rock so I should have really assumed Break Blade wasn't the right idea.

(http://i.imgur.com/p9THPH1.png)
Break might not have worked, but Old does!  I mean it's a bit too late for my team but I'll take any edge I can at this point.

(http://i.imgur.com/E5fIDv6.png)
I wind up with so much overlapping nonsense the game can't even show all of them on the sprite at once  :ohdear:

(http://i.imgur.com/ENUaumg.png)
I've lived the past 18 years of my life believing grass type is weak to fire was that all a lie? 
I was doing peanuts for damage really the best I could do was hope for a Killer Bow proc to speed things up as I channeled when I was rolling with four White Mages way back when.

(http://i.imgur.com/sLtvCwo.png)
OH HEY I FINALLY GOT THE KILLER BOW TO TRIGGER
....when Faris was confused and shot herself in the face with it :fail:  GOOD RIDDANCE I finally beat that sucker, but now I have to still go back all the way down the mountain ugh.

(http://i.imgur.com/2vXib6h.png)
Well at least I can roast and toast these chumps.  Finally I'm at the foot of that slog of a mountain and I can mosey on back to the castle to drop off ~the goods~

(http://i.imgur.com/mEWBIN9.png)
oh wait oops forgot about that.

(http://i.imgur.com/QW8cxo5.png)
Galuf installed some sort of waterslide directly into the castle for easy gator access what fun!

(http://i.imgur.com/ySLorkL.png)
 ::)
Let's repair our ride, but oh no Krile's not doing so good either now!

(http://i.imgur.com/k2WEovd.png)
~*~plot progression~*~
Ghido is the 2nd best character in the game, for reasons we shall see in a little bit. 

(http://i.imgur.com/EhFyn07.png)
No that just describes us and our handling of modes of transportation.  Regardless, we decide to take a trip over now that we can fly!

(http://i.imgur.com/Dgxu37g.png)
What a nice cozy little island!  Let's go head on in and pay Ghido a visit!

(http://i.imgur.com/DPYsYf8.png)
uhoh

(http://i.imgur.com/ItglW9P.png)
And to the surprise of no one we trash yet another landmark that was doing perfectly fine before we showed up great work us.

(http://i.imgur.com/PRtj21G.png)
Oh sure Exdeath wants to take credit but let's be real we're basically cursed.


That's all for today folks!  Check in again later for another exciting chapter from Team Follow Pokemon Logic At Your Own Risk.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 30, 2015, 01:14:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/X0EPNnD.jpg)

We rejoin our 'heroes' at the entrance to Tycoon Castle, where they are greeted with an ACTUAL heroes' welcome. WHOOPS!

(http://i.imgur.com/GngR5Zr.jpg)

"I love love and I love to love love."

(http://i.imgur.com/4eTttT1.jpg)

Seriously. We've got the castle celebration scene going down but we've still got a third of the game to go. What gives?

(http://i.imgur.com/srOllfI.jpg)

Monty receives a fresh reminder that he's still single despite spending the last few months alongside three eligible bachelorettes.

(http://i.imgur.com/6dPUaKd.jpg)

Uh, did I get lost AGAIN?! Yes I did.

(http://i.imgur.com/7uF9ujl.jpg)

Monty engages in yet another round of animal abuse.

(http://i.imgur.com/Anf1TY0.jpg)

Antlion shows up and Monty keeps the deeps up on it. Krile's fantabulous support means the two of them are barely hurt. Of course, it's a giant butt with the level down stuff but that's it.

(http://i.imgur.com/U4UMELe.jpg)

Srsly u gais.

(http://i.imgur.com/IFr0v9h.jpg)

"We are the keepers of the sacred words..."

(http://i.imgur.com/72v30uG.jpg)

WOAH there Krile. That was one SERIOUS little splinter.

(http://i.imgur.com/5nYlIoI.jpg)

I'm sure whatevernot is a plain English type of word.

(http://i.imgur.com/4CtKXbd.jpg)

"Well that there black hole seems to be your problem. I'll call the plumber in tomorrow and it'll be fixed before you know it."

(http://i.imgur.com/CvuJr8P.jpg)

Again, very rude Exdeath.

(http://i.imgur.com/5F0LknL.jpg)

I like how Ghido, a talking, sapient turtle, just walks into a library he's never been in before, kicks the staircase down as if it were nothing, then starts his warplan. Equally amusing, the scholars are only surprised at the collapsing stairs becoming a table while remaining unfazed by a reptile that's smarter than they are.

(http://i.imgur.com/hYROQmr.jpg)

Ghido gives out more snark than a 5 mile long street populated exclusively by little old ladies give out candy on Halloween.

(http://i.imgur.com/QPe633u.jpg)

This dialogue is required screencapping.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hx97QxG.jpg)

So after getting lost for what I assure you wasn't an embarrassingly long amount of time, I finally find this dude in Moore.

(http://i.imgur.com/I3sCfsv.jpg)

My party is so very different from last year! Gimme dat Brave Blade!

(http://i.imgur.com/ODcRfCr.jpg)

My sword hand trembles!

(http://i.imgur.com/CJ3w4hP.jpg)

OH
MY
STARS.

(http://i.imgur.com/aZJP5sT.jpg)

Uh, are you sure you want to use berserk on Monty, friend? Nevermind we'll be picking parts of you up in Karnak at this rate.

(http://i.imgur.com/wzFaA4x.jpg)

The gargoyles exist but since they have 5000 HP a pop the Brave Blade just chews through them. All I have to do is make sure both Monty and Faris can get a hit in at nearly the same time.

(http://i.imgur.com/f7I5vLX.jpg)

The Damned? More like The Damned Annoying. Seriously this section can be a pain in the butt.

(http://i.imgur.com/ACzs7u1.jpg)

!Control helps in every instance that Monty can't do a bad guy in in a single strike.

(http://i.imgur.com/fTjHtqu.jpg)

Zephyrus here can't even summon help.

(http://i.imgur.com/7dogsym.jpg)

OH NO HEALSTICK WHACK GO!

(http://i.imgur.com/6nt0qrm.jpg)

After a dozen trapped treasure chests, finally something worth picking up. Defense is a high priority for the only real healer of the group.

(http://i.imgur.com/EtuSpGn.jpg)

The team regrets going through a labyrinthine hellhole when they simply could've taken the stairs.

(http://i.imgur.com/U225GjA.jpg)

And after 15 years of blaming her for Karnak's woes, I feel bad for the queen. Sorry, queenie. :(

Such is the fate of Team Technically The Heroes of This Story. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Rocket is Beastmastering Off Again or Team Let's Hope We Don't Get This Next Place Sucked Into a Black Hole We Have a Bad Rep for Destroying Places Going.
OH SNAP

(http://i.imgur.com/C2HfaZf.jpg)

So yeah. About those problems I had last year...

(http://i.imgur.com/ZwBt1dg.jpg)

A few doses of level boost juice and Monty just carves this jerkbutt to pieces.

(http://i.imgur.com/UVqKlua.jpg)

Also, Faris does all of 0 damage but manages to paralyze her a few times, making things even easier!

(http://i.imgur.com/Zo6L2xY.jpg)

It's only a flesh wound.

(http://i.imgur.com/N6FXs38.jpg)

Considering it'll only take me 5 minutes tops, I decide to swing by Castle Kuza. Mr. Decent Chancellorguy has survived!

(http://i.imgur.com/5iNdbiJ.jpg)

This puppy should boost Faris's damage output during time when !Control isn't feasible or as useful as possible.+30 to attack is quite nice indeed. I'll take it! Unfortunately I don't think anyone else can use anything unless Excalibur can be used by Mystic Knights and I thought it was regular old ones only.

(http://i.imgur.com/sawBQXm.jpg)

Such is the fate of Team Otakon Hangover Club. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Work Stinks a Hangover Would Be Better Club or Team Just Give Me a !Drink.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 30, 2015, 03:01:05 AM
This puppy should boost Faris's damage output during time when !Control isn't feasible or as useful as possible.+30 to attack is quite nice indeed. I'll take it! Unfortunately I don't think anyone else can use anything unless Excalibur can be used by Mystic Knights and I thought it was regular old ones only.

Mystic and I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink Chemist can use Assassin's Dagger. (Also this is one of the reasons I think Chicken Knife is generally preferred over Brave Blade even without someone who can avoid the flee procs and with a proper knight in the party - BB's not thaaaaaaaaaat much better than the other endgame knight-only swords and CK is that much better than the endgame daggers, especially since it has the agility part of its formula fixed IIRC.)

EDIT: Oh and Chemist can definitely wield Sage's Staff or whatever.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 30, 2015, 01:16:58 PM
Mystic and I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink Chemist can use Assassin's Dagger. (Also this is one of the reasons I think Chicken Knife is generally preferred over Brave Blade even without someone who can avoid the flee procs and with a proper knight in the party - BB's not thaaaaaaaaaat much better than the other endgame knight-only swords and CK is that much better than the endgame daggers, especially since it has the agility part of its formula fixed IIRC.)

EDIT: Oh and Chemist can definitely wield Sage's Staff or whatever.
Oh crap I forgot just how versatile knives are in this game. Mystic Knight can be pretty picky with which weapons can be equipped and used with !Spellblade and I got a taste of that last year with Blue Mage. Oh well. Team Roflstomp isn't exactly having too much trouble clearing dungeons so I'm most likely in the clear for getting the next tablet.

I have a bit of an aversion to the Chicken Knife unless I have a specific way to nullify the chance or attempted chance to run. Maybe with a little bit of homework I might've found that using !Spellblade on it would nullify it but I wasn't sure. Even then, Mystic Knight has settled into a semi-support role by exploiting weaknesses and doesn't rely on strict damage output as much. Other than that, I have a 1/4 chance of running away/wasting a turn and I'd prefer to avoid both. I don't have to spend time grinding the Brave Blade either. Regardless, Monty's job is to attack and then attack some more. As the DPS guy, I'd like to have his output be as high as possible for as long as possible and the wonkiness/minmax shenanigans of the Chicken Knife just didn't seem to be worth the time, math, and strategy I'd have to deal with to make it truly outshine the Brave Blade.

I actually have an aversion to sticking Krile with anything other than the Heal Staff at the moment. At nearly 400 HP a turn, it's a useful way for keeping the party healthy for random battles and means I'm not dipping into my Hi-Potions anywhere near as much. It's mostly a cost-cutting procedure but that'll be helpful when it comes time to buy all the expensive endgame goodies.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on July 30, 2015, 04:22:41 PM
I have a bit of an aversion to the Chicken Knife unless I have a specific way to nullify the chance or attempted chance to run. Maybe with a little bit of homework I might've found that using !Spellblade on it would nullify it but I wasn't sure. Even then, Mystic Knight has settled into a semi-support role by exploiting weaknesses and doesn't rely on strict damage output as much. Other than that, I have a 1/4 chance of running away/wasting a turn and I'd prefer to avoid both. I don't have to spend time grinding the Brave Blade either. Regardless, Monty's job is to attack and then attack some more. As the DPS guy, I'd like to have his output be as high as possible for as long as possible and the wonkiness/minmax shenanigans of the Chicken Knife just didn't seem to be worth the time, math, and strategy I'd have to deal with to make it truly outshine the Brave Blade.

Naw that's legit. You definitely are in one of the cases where it's an actual decision, at least. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on July 30, 2015, 06:13:27 PM
Nah as far as I can tell !Spellblade silliness doesn't negate Chicken Knife since it's an attack modifier not an attack command.  In your boat I'd have picked the same.

Assassin Dagger should be fair game for Mystic Knight although I think the Spellblade enchant overwrites any innate weapon shenanigans but she's probably the best candidate on your team regardless.  I also concur on keeping Krile with Heal Stick, I did the same last year and it's not as if Team Triple Crown Plz is going to be in a real pickle without another attacker.

I must say I'm glad you kids bumped this thread so I could put in my next update without a week old double post  :V  This update was not streamed, though I might do a bit tonight or tomorrow or Saturday night depending on how things shake out.
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Team Castle Crashers knocks at the front door of Surgate Castle.  My business?  Loot all of the things (spoiler: there isn't much :( ) Let's take a looksee at it before we meet the king who is currently busting his way into Exdeath's House.

(http://i.imgur.com/GMKuKgc.png)
HMMMMM

(http://i.imgur.com/kwZNzfu.png)
dammit this would be the best screencap if I was indeed named Butts.

(http://i.imgur.com/ylgqumD.png)
Now here's a fun tidbit of information.  There is a bit of unexpected synergy between Dragoon's !Lance and mage classes.  Too bad I didn't get any of the latter  :ohdear:  I've done with what I came in for it's go time!

(http://i.imgur.com/Lzg969t.png)
Unlike that stupid tile by Crescent Island I actually land on the boat on my first attempt hooray!.

(http://i.imgur.com/DYxYd2I.png)
So we're on a boat, but as we saw earlier Exdeath has that big ol' bubble of NOPE around the place I hope they have something cooking here.

(http://i.imgur.com/B3FZrwl.png)
Hey that's pretty much I get to Midtown Manhattan!  This is a triangles approved plan!  We hit the hay in one of the bunk rooms and then....

(http://i.imgur.com/dF2isBn.png)
...Gilgamesh comes on down!  Knocking out the trash mobs isn't a problem.

(http://i.imgur.com/lxf2ewH.png)
So there's this mountain peak with some "grass" you may be interested in there buddy.

Regardless, Gilgy Battle The Third ahoy!  Halfway through the battle he'll summon his buddy Enkidu for some double trouble.  Gilgamesh tends to be vunerable to status effects, so my first turn I pop on Silence Blade.  Second character is ready and Galuf !Aims and fires.

(http://i.imgur.com/fR41fyp.png)
...he had the Killer Bow equipped. 

(http://i.imgur.com/oj1sHnt.png)
oops I dun sequence broke.

(http://i.imgur.com/djubxua.png)
It appears heroes ditching the sidekicks is fair game, at least.  I get the Killer Bow to activate on the very first round against Gilgy, but it never did after 20+ against Dragon Pod - you know the boss that was the bigger jerkbutt ::)

(http://i.imgur.com/xlQXjRK.png)
Godspeed mooncat :paw:

(http://i.imgur.com/ENYJsB5.png)
trianglesfamily.jpg

(http://i.imgur.com/sJlPB6T.png)
With things settled down, it's time for the real plan to get up in Exdeath's grill. 

(http://i.imgur.com/M04R38P.png)
OH GOD THEY TRUST US WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE the thought of what the insurance premimums must be at this point frighten me and I live in New Jersey.

(http://i.imgur.com/n8gciCm.png)
Welcome to Barrier Tower!  There's no water slide moat so we do the next best thing to get inside - dynamite.

(http://i.imgur.com/JnmTHza.png)
yes good this is a thing I excel at.

(http://i.imgur.com/CPnKQc0.png)
On the one hand, it's a nice touch that you can't !Aim when blinded that makes sense.  On the other hand I'm still blinded  :ohdear:

(http://i.imgur.com/r3eJzB4.png)
whomp whomp
Last year I got hit with this on 3 of my 4 party members I made sure to have my levels work out this time around.

(http://i.imgur.com/ho5BI89.png)
oh bby this gonna buy a lot of Gold Needles to expedite getting !XFight

(http://i.imgur.com/QI8KAQ5.png)
Hey so using the Ancient Sword on the Reflect Knights will bounce old back onto my party :fail:

(http://i.imgur.com/vZL4vA5.png)
At the top of the tower it's go time.

(http://i.imgur.com/kK2p4m9.png)
Atomos, the Interdimensional Lovecraftian Vacuum CleanerTM  It is another member of the That Boss club.  It'll do one of two things - smack you around with oodles of Comets until someone dies, then Kirby the corpse up until they're out of the battle forevers.  Unlike my previous years, I could partake in some silliness to beat it with a minimal amount of AHHHH HALP HALP SAVE ME RNG

(http://i.imgur.com/oPwURvO.png)
Bonk it with !Spellblade Sleep...

(http://i.imgur.com/xnpZOCR.png)
...then have Faris jump for lods e damag which of course wakes him up so I gotta resmack it to sleep lest I lose a buddy (there Edible there's a screenshot with a dead character I hope you're happy)

(http://i.imgur.com/5jHH3vK.png)
Not hard this time around, just a matter of getting into the correct rhythm to keep it locked down, not unlike using Bards vs Omega.

(http://i.imgur.com/qR9VH66.png)
Time to blow (up) this popsicle stand... wait a minute buddy?

(http://i.imgur.com/gv7OruN.png)
....buddy?

(http://i.imgur.com/xzAVTV2.png)
Gramps takes a trip on the Suplexpress off the 10+ story tower because of course.

(http://i.imgur.com/Qb6gghT.png)
Intentionally Destroyed Buildings Count:  1

(http://i.imgur.com/GCkVjoZ.png)
And lookie here, we can waltz right on up now.

(http://i.imgur.com/m3allQb.png)
;__________;

(http://i.imgur.com/LFnfMbz.png)
The path head of us is clear.  To Turtle Rock!

That's all for today kids, Team !Spellblading Bees finally caught up with my screenshot backlog :toot: :toot:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on July 31, 2015, 07:29:32 AM
Hurr, currently not playing the fiesta, got a little busy.

Seeing the whole screencaps I forget one thing. I have Ranger, but why don't I use or even buy the Killer Bow?
I fail. :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on July 31, 2015, 12:54:43 PM
Naw that's legit. You definitely are in one of the cases where it's an actual decision, at least. :V
Well, that's part of the point of the mock LP anyhow. Discussion points are brought up and analysis of the playstyle is made. The decision of whether to choose the Brave Blade over the Chicken Knife probably only comes up when (1) you have 1 or more knights on the team and (2) when none of your party members has a way of negating the 1/4 chance of running/attempting to run. Assassin's Dagger has been pointed out as totes legit and I skipped right over it. Also using a staff for Chemist might boost their Magic stat, which would in turn make stuff like Shadow Flare more viable. Lastly, I have been reminded that the Flame Lash is a moot point because Dragon Whip is more potent, carries my beloved 50% stun rate, and is dropped by Stingrays and I should just hang out where those things spawn. :V
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on August 02, 2015, 10:59:37 AM
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Second run done at last, after a lot of procrastinating and perfectly good distractions like SDGQ. Neo Exdeath got slightly hairy because I accidentally killed the third part I'd targeted for destruction (Grand Cross) too fast and had to deal with the Front Piece's Last Stand pattern.

Thankfully, with liberal use of Quick, I only had to deal with it using it once, Shell saved my ass by lessening Meteor's damage and only downing Krile (which is why she doesn't have a green aura there), dualcasting spells with said Quick, and good Sword Dance procs, I came victorious.

I'll go after Omega and Shinryu later, as this team will be able to take care of both of them - Berserk and Blink for the former; Quick, break Poison Rod, and playing the fast forward-induced waiting game for the latter.

I'm so glad that the end-of credits save puts me next to Tule - less backtracking while I grab the things I need, and maybe gain some levels, too. Another perk of the GBA and Mobile versions? Sealed Temple access, where I can fight things that give out more than grinding in the Rift Castle. :V ...Kinda need to get all of the tablets, though, and for some parties, that's really annoying, but for White/Time/Geo/Dancer, it wasn't too bad. On second thought, doing that isn't such a good idea, or at least not a party in the mid 30's like mine.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on August 02, 2015, 10:38:36 PM
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We rejoin our heroes attempting to fetch the fabled whip mentioned in my previous post.

(http://i.imgur.com/ju16WtC.jpg)

Aaaand I completely flub just trying to find the Stingray. Noting that my chances are small and it's a questionable improvement over the Fire Lash for the time being, I abandon the whole thing.

(http://i.imgur.com/nQ3tjJl.jpg)

Hey everyone in this town has the same fashion statement.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZSiR73o.jpg)

WOAH there forget that I'll be fine with my current supply.

(http://i.imgur.com/lWusD5r.jpg)

Oh but Monty gets something to increase his killing potential.

(http://i.imgur.com/gxOHPBq.jpg)

Sorta glad that I don't have to spend so much time pondering over whether I should get these things or not.

(http://i.imgur.com/HX4JbsL.jpg)

Soon, it's dungeon crawling time, and Monty goes nuts on everything that moves. RIP Covert dude.

(http://i.imgur.com/W6avxgo.jpg)

It's only in large groups that enemies really pose a threat unless they have some trick up their sleeve like confuse.

(http://i.imgur.com/XyfWOkO.jpg)

WHOOPS Faris. Also the Fire Lash's damage output ain't so bad with the Firaga effect activating every 3 attacks or so.

(http://i.imgur.com/RfPr8Hx.jpg)

THESE are the guys that are total butts because they have 454895093475 HP. I counted I swear. Luckily, !Control saves the day once again.

(http://i.imgur.com/qqy22dQ.jpg)

For those unfamiliar with Chemist, I have found these Dragon Fangs to be the most useful item of all. Level boosting and elemental damage resistance at your fingertips has proven important. Instant death stuff via Dark Matters and restorative items via Turtle Shells have proven vital but hoo boy do I ever chew through the fangs.

(http://i.imgur.com/0zVmZB8.jpg)

The amount of entertainment that I get out of !Control is infinite.

(http://i.imgur.com/1P15flm.jpg)

Wendigo is also a giant butt, but never really a threat. It's just RNG shenanigans and since I haven't had to deal with such things much this run, it's not nearly as frustrating as before.

(http://i.imgur.com/rUJTRI7.jpg)

Protect Rings and X-Potion from !Mix sorta nullify any threat he poses.

(http://i.imgur.com/PM2QDmT.jpg)

With Monty hitting for ~4.5k damage, this one's in the books before too long.

(http://i.imgur.com/mjLyEfc.jpg)

YEAH. COME BACK WHEN YOU GET A FUN GIMMICK.

(http://i.imgur.com/ewtlWM6.jpg)

And then I get pestered by some more of these things on the way out.

(http://i.imgur.com/19dLRLh.jpg)

This time, I go and fetch the Assassin's Dagger and it's quite potent and useful.

(http://i.imgur.com/vrikaXM.jpg)

Except on stuff that's already dead. OOPSIEDOODLES.

(http://i.imgur.com/9Y44lCe.jpg)

Next it's time for Fork Tower and I totally DON'T mess up who to send where. I swear!

(http://i.imgur.com/fy6SJzm.jpg)

To help, Krile gets the #berserkerstix

(http://i.imgur.com/cDbiZKq.jpg)

After this poor sod flubs his big chance,

(http://i.imgur.com/eMcbp6x.jpg)

The Power Staff is put to good use on Omniscient, who is then left as impotent as he was last yeah after 20 Magic Hammers to the face.

(http://i.imgur.com/YSekinT.jpg)

I dunno what the blind status drops your accuracy to, but it's a pitiful score.

(http://i.imgur.com/e9nFetr.jpg)

Lenna's weapon upgrade is good, but it's not until getting a level upgrade that her damage output increases.

(http://i.imgur.com/kT8r1Up.jpg)

Accidentally berserking her really pays off! BV

(http://i.imgur.com/e6epGiV.jpg)

The two will be a boon for Lenna as the bunch's Mystic Knight.

(http://i.imgur.com/zPv0voS.jpg)

STOP HORSING AROUND I need my submarine STAT.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hgvzjr6.jpg)

THANK you. Jeez why does it take so much yelling to get a geriatric and his newbie grandson to practically invent and construct a submarine by hand in under 12 hours?

(http://i.imgur.com/wBYXqGv.jpg)

It's okay bro we can fight for filet mignon if you so please.

(http://i.imgur.com/4sq89SA.jpg)

So of course we blow off our fancy new toy and go straight for a dungeon we don't really need to complete instead.

(http://i.imgur.com/a7BJdlg.jpg)

This whole fight with the lady and the frog always mystified me. The frog turns into a dragon if you use a Maiden's Kiss on it. And then the lady says some weird stuff and stuff? I dunno. Luckily nothing really troubles the team.

(http://i.imgur.com/jsV67GX.jpg)

While Lenna's new toy is good, it may not be a permanent solution. However, the Defender in the tower and this little oddity aren't up for the challenge. Oh well.

(http://i.imgur.com/IoLl0TQ.jpg)

You really can't have enough of these things. A huge boost to both physical and magic defense, plus regen. There's really nothing quite like them for random progress.

(http://i.imgur.com/9p6BBsu.jpg)

The only thing that was really barring the way was this dingleberry. Too bad Monty is a DAMAGE MACHINE.

(http://i.imgur.com/HrjbdA5.jpg)

Krile pumping him full of more DRAGONFORCE ENERGY DRINKS (tm) surely doesn't hurt either.

(http://i.imgur.com/jeErxdr.jpg)

One of these guys led to a TPK last year. Not so much this year.

(http://i.imgur.com/i8daz0i.jpg)

Oh so THAT'S why you want to put up with them.

(http://i.imgur.com/vf3UQvl.jpg)

There's that Reflect Ring I've been waiting forever for.

(http://i.imgur.com/UDLDgfw.jpg)

Aaaand here's exactly what I've been waiting for for Lenna. The Enhancer is really potent and boosts her magic power. I forget exactly how (or if) magic enters into spellblade damage calculations, but it'll be useful for bosses when the Assassin's Dagger ain't gonna cut it.

(http://i.imgur.com/aubSBHa.jpg)

Case and point.

(http://i.imgur.com/mY5raRt.jpg)

HEY BRO LOOK BEHIND YOU.

(http://i.imgur.com/2vVGCHQ.jpg)

For once, he really should have.

(http://i.imgur.com/o5QnlmF.jpg)

For yuks, it's time to beat up Leviathan. Unfortunately, the Dragon Fang defensive !Mixes don't work so well here because they're for fire, ice, and lightning. Even the version that carries reflect isn't effective. Too bad I derped on that.

(http://i.imgur.com/amp0LJS.jpg)

Nothing a little pick-me-up won't help!

(http://i.imgur.com/QEI16kb.jpg)

Lenna's newfound toy and Thundaga Blade don't just dish out the hurt, it makes enough to feed a party of 12 and has enough for leftovers.

(http://i.imgur.com/vdUSgRP.jpg)

With Monty and Lenna eventually getting hasted, it doesn't take long before Leviathan is wiped out.

(http://i.imgur.com/HoHlp1K.jpg)

HEY thanks buddy! You're nice enough to give me the option to fight or leave things be, then give me one of these as the victor? You're all right.

(http://i.imgur.com/kXktWzA.jpg)

With that, we're flushed back out. One more major dungeon to go before the rift! Such is the fate of Team Cruisin' the Seven Seas for Seven Kinds of Bruisin'. Join us next time for the continuing adventures for Team Unterseebootin' or Holy !Spellblade, Batman!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on August 03, 2015, 11:05:02 PM
HEY KIDS once husbando is off his tech support call I'll be streaming tonight stay tuned!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on August 03, 2015, 11:39:23 PM
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We rejoin our heroes almost double posting in an internet forum thread. The nerve of them!

(http://i.imgur.com/25kqK6m.jpg)

Well, not really. We rejoin them during a grinding session, which might be a worse crime than their rampant destruction if it weren't for the very real possibility that they could take on both Shinryu and Omega.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZctNXbY.jpg)

Levels are all well and good, but the real purpose is to get some spare rings and an extra pair of Hermes Sandals. This is also a good time to stock up on items and ensure that I'll have enough supplies to last me through the endgame. All in all, it's not really that painful considering I had the SGDQ marathon stuff running in the background and a rubber band around the fast forward button. :V

(http://i.imgur.com/icALUCq.jpg)

With the insurance policy in hand, it's time to prep for nobody's favorite dungeon, the Great Sea Trench!

(http://i.imgur.com/P2ZDa9Q.jpg)

Float is put on everyone before heading down because this place is stupid.

(http://i.imgur.com/JRVlgRj.jpg)

The enemies here have insane defenses and always come in bunches. Fortunately, everyone in the party is equipped and up to the task.

(http://i.imgur.com/UIqbWK7.jpg)

Seriously, with a souped-up Brave Blade, then the Sage Staff and Flame Lash exploiting weaknesses (occasionally), and then Holy cast on Lenna's sword gives the whole party an advantage over these guys where there could be none.

(http://i.imgur.com/OoMbUbO.jpg)

Last year, this place got painful. This time around, not so much.

(http://i.imgur.com/WEUsJ88.jpg)

There are a couple nice things around that are useful, but not really enough to merit how much a pain in the butt this place can be on 4JF playthroughs. The lack of enemy variety and damaging floors don't help.

(http://i.imgur.com/SE93plA.jpg)

These little pod creeps will resurrect if the battle isn't finished quickly. Luckily, this isn't too much of a problem.

(http://i.imgur.com/68QOg8L.jpg)

Rally/lali-ho! Dwarves in FF games are always a chill bunch.

(http://i.imgur.com/UqKS30y.jpg)

Uh... I MEANT to forget the Magic Lamp again this year.

(http://i.imgur.com/Tz2G72x.jpg)

This room is yet another miserable one because of the guessing game played with switches. It's good to know I haven't blocked out every memory I have of this place.

(http://i.imgur.com/SNjOJbz.jpg)

These... other things are typically more trouble because they'll cause a member to up and vanish from the fight if you so much as look at them funny.

(http://i.imgur.com/QA5hogN.jpg)

The party has finally reached the end, but I have some doubts I'm really set and ready to go here.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ruu2D0H.jpg)

Seriously, don't let me lose to these guys. >:(

(http://i.imgur.com/YujZ4z8.jpg)

Well this is even easier than I remember.

(http://i.imgur.com/zEiYgUD.jpg)

Except it isn't. Oops. Despite many encounters with these guys, I had forgotten just how quick their respawn rate is. All three of these chuckleheads need to be defeated at the same time. Not in quick succession like the gargoyle statues or the pod-shaped Unknowns. AT THE VERY SAME TIME without exception. Checking my options reveals a grand total of nothing convenient. Knight and Mystic Knight have no multitarget options, !Catch would require leaving the area entirely, and no !Mix potion has multitarget effects. Even breaking a staff isn't a thing because there doesn't seem to be one with a multitarget spell. Also as stated above I thought I had fetched the Magic Lamp but WHOOPS I rarely if ever remember to pick it up. I had come down here figuring that this was quite possible to whack them in quick succession with 3 potent physical fighters in the group and it would just come down to weakening them all the right amount beforehand, but NOOOOOOO.

(http://i.imgur.com/I1Bw1xs.jpg)

So uh, embarrassingly, I sorta just reset things and casually waltz out. I meant to do that! Regardless, there isn't much to prove here other than this team lacks some multitarget attacks. Between the miserable slog it is to get here and the enemies, I abandon the whole thing. All things considered, the party is more than ready for the endgame anyhow. The Dragon Whisker might be useful, but getting it would require time and patience for a questionable increase in effectiveness. Much of the remaining team can contribute to beating up dragons and it won't be necessary for Shinryu.

Such is the fate of Team No Fair Cheating Except When I Do It. Join us next time for the continuing adventures of Team Boss Rush Crush or Team Too Bad It's Not The Interdimensional Thrift Grinding is Still Dull.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on August 04, 2015, 06:04:07 AM
Yeah, honestly, unless you have a Time Mage, there's no real reason to go down there other than the free Flame Ring or the Kaiser Knuckles if you have a Monk - which you can just grab, then leave, and not have to deal with the boss.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on August 04, 2015, 11:21:20 PM
Yeah, honestly, unless you have a Time Mage, there's no real reason to go down there other than the free Flame Ring or the Kaiser Knuckles if you have a Monk - which you can just grab, then leave, and not have to deal with the boss.
Completionism dictates that I should do it anyway, but really, there's no reward or point in doing so with this team at this stage in the game.

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We rejoin our heroes doing what they should've done beforehand if they gave a crap about beating up the tosspots in the Great Sea Trench.

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Here's that shiny Magic Lamp that I always wanted. A great tag sale special find to be sure. Right up there with my original movie poster for Star Wars Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back.

(http://i.imgur.com/npUfa0X.jpg)

Yeah, yeah. Hold still and let me beat you up.

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WHOOPS I forgot the thing. Lemme try again.

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Once again, chemistry saves the day as Bahamut's most potent attack bounces off the team and crushes him instead.

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That's a whole lot of little explosions!

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With the party fully stocked and ready to engage in some extreme deforestation, it's time to hop into the rift.

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I just gotta remember which one it is! :/

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!Control's battlefield... control proves its worth yet again by keeping one of the enemies preoccupied with casting spells on itself while Krile heals the rest of the team with the healstick. It's effectiveness has dwindled since enemies do nearly 10 times as much damage since I first got it while its healing potential has only doubled. This delay tactic helps it along and ensures I'll have more than enough Hi-Potions for more troublesome situations ahead.

(http://i.imgur.com/7MUop4U.jpg)

Of course, there's always the magic inn-in-a-jar.

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With my supply slowly dwindling, this is a nice find.

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Momma always said to beware of naked ladies coming out from trees stuck in the interdimensional rift.

(http://i.imgur.com/eP9Uvqa.jpg)

Hey lady that's a nice beach ball you got there. It would be a real shame if someo-

(http://i.imgur.com/sI0M5Ym.jpg)

HEY WAIT COME BACK I WAS JOKING.

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These things manage to confound me a bit. Hitting them is next to impossible and with the team's current setup I don't mind just running away rather than tolerate a few encounters with them.

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Now for the real challenge. Neo Exdeath hasn't been too much of a worry as my team is pretty solid and doing some homework has hinted that my party has options for cheesing him to death if necessary. Shinryu falls into a similar category as I have both guaranteed berserk and blind at my beck and call. Omega is different.

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Omega is a beast unto itself in that its speed and variety of attacks leaves you vulnerable at all times. No set of equipment guarantees the party much in the way of immunities. Atomic Ray is fire elemental and that's about it in the way of exploitable defenses. The remainder of its attacks aren't worth trying to protect against since they are limited to using petrification resistance and float on the team. It's doable, but they will only help so much. Not to mention, I don't know if it'll be worth the hassle. I would later learn that Omega uses Earthquake rather sparingly, which means that it isn't truly worth preparing for. It's good to have float !Mix combinations available as a backup option, though.

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With the potential for so many blind spots, its really far more worth your trouble to prevent Omega from attacking AT ALL or at least enough so that it doesn't blast you to bits in one go. Hence, the basic theorem for beating Omega with this party is as such:

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1. Hit it as hard and as fast as possible.

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2. Limit its attacks as much as possible.

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Pretty simple, but there are enough RNG shenanigans flying about that it should still prove to be a frustrating adventure. With this in mind, Lenna, my Mystic Knight, and Faris, my Beastmaster, are equipped with Hermes Sandals in order to ensure that their turns come up early and often. Lenna will go nuts with Thundaga on her sword while Faris will spam !Calm as much as possible. Lenna also gets a Flame Shield to protect against a stray Atomic Ray attack.

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Since these two are the crux of the plan, Monty and Krile are left as backup. Monty will either !Guard or item spam depending on need, and Krile will provide potent !Mixes to boost Lenna's damage output and protect/heal our squishy little quartet of three princesses and a hobo.

(http://i.imgur.com/wMvC2wK.jpg)

!Calm works, but only so well. It does indeed delay Omega but its speed is so high it isn't delayed for very long. It is enough to boost the party's chance of survival up from HA HA GET REKT to significant levels though. The input for this game via emulation features just enough lag that it's easily possible to provide the wrong input. After many hours of experience this becomes easier to work around, but it takes a conscious effort to quickly select the right options. The extra effort provides enough of an improvement to merit it.

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Lenna's attack proves to be VERY potent and far and a necessary component in beating Omega.

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However, a bit of DRAGONFORCE manages to help things along. The increase in damage turns out to be critical as the boost drastically increases Lenna's damage output by some 40+%. This drops the number of attacks required to defeat Omega down from... 8 or 9 to around 6 or 7 if memory serves me right. Omega has roughly 55k HP.

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Although its effectiveness is limited, the setup generally works, and Krile is able to set up defenses in time for trouble on most occasions.

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All this strategizing runs headlong into the harsh reality that is the RNG. Lenna frequently misses against Omega and any string of misses spells doom for the party. Although this results in a number of TPKs, it confirms the importance of getting as many hits in as possible as fast as possible and as hard as possible. There is little I can do to increase the party's endurance by a significant amount, but getting nearly twice as many attacks in at a significantly higher amount of damage per strike becomes an imperative.

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At this point, nearly everything comes down to simply bashing my head into this wall until it works, but yeah there are a couple tough moments.

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That isn't to say that nothing goes my way, though.

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After a string of lucky hits,

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And Faris getting off !Calm right on time,

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Omega bites it on attempt 8! It's a great relief as I was expecting to be dogged by the random numbers gods after last year's troubles. I even thought that the RNG might be so uppity that my chances would be a whole lot worse.

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Awwww yeah so goooooood. At the time of writing, there only seems to be 15 other runners (out of 400+) doing Natural runs that have managed to beat Omega. I got a great roll for doing so and luckily did enough studying to make it happen.

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Uh, hey bro, could you finish dying sometime soon? I gotta beat up a tree sometime this week. Seriously, there's so much rumbling and flashing!

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After a bunch of wound licking and hoping that I don't get ambushed by something that will eat my face off, the team survives the odyssey back to the save point. A Cottage and some equipment checks later and we are ready to continue. Such is the fate of Team Ludditism, Ho! Join us again for the concluding adventures of Team We are Lumberjacks and We're Okay or Team Omae wa Mou Shinryu.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on August 06, 2015, 02:06:13 AM
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We rejoin our heroes committing their greatest crime yet: A double post! NOW GET TO WORK.

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First victim of the day is Byblos Jr. who unfortunately forgets to try. Git gud son.

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This floating platform section was never something I put much thought into.

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The dragon enemies here provide some much-needed Dragon Fangs for the fights ahead. I still had some left but was chewing through them quite steadily.

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Also these ninja are butts and their evade rate is like 90% so nuts to them.

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Luckily Break Blade helps out a bit here and there.

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Ah, the castle. I always liked how this place was designed. Several bosses. Enemies that keep you on your toes just enough to pose a threat, enemies out in the open guarding treasures, hidden paths that lead to goodies, and a save point rewarded to those who beat a boss.

(http://i.imgur.com/g5dXNPW.jpg)

Speaking of which, the original Blue Mage guards the save point and serves as the first boss.

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I try to get cute. Unfortunately, it doesn't work when I want. :/

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He still goes down pretty quick even with Mighty Guard and Death Claw. Hey! How come it worked on the 1st try instead of the 9th?!

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Catastrophe is a bit of a problem child because it's usually focused on crushing you party with huge damage attacks. He's beaten to the punch and is down before a party wipe. Not pictured: The Archaeoavis palette swapped guys. They are a test of your patience. Between high HP, Maelstrom, and Circle, I don't care to bother with them beyond being reminded how these guys can really catch you off guard. The stuff in the treasure chests is not worth it for this party.

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Ms. Fancy typically isn't too big a deal unless you get really bogged down in the fight.

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Go, my precious froggies!

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She and her dapper outfit don't last long. She dawdles about a bit, making it easy for a party that's ready to bring the pain.

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OH SHI- I forgot this guy and he's the toughest of the bunch! CRAP crap crap. I get so distracted I miss taking a ton of screencaps. Luckily he doesn't go berserk the instant the encounter starts. He's got some nasty stuff in store if I don't get him first. I DO remember later that some of it is reflectable, but that's a moot point when you carelessly walk into a fight like this. This is the toughest boss out of all in the boss rush and it shows.

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At this stage, Break Blade comes in useful for every encounter. It tears through pretty much anything.

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HALLO FRIND! :3

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Oh, uh, right at Albuquerque. Same as always.

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Unfortunately, I'd really prefer to take this save spot here.

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Necrophobe is a bit of a to-do but still only so challenging. Having potent healing and revive stuff helps a lot.

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Buddy, wait! He's got less than 10k HP!

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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;_;

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Now it's time for Shinryu. Much like Omega, he's fast and hits hard. I thiiiiiink he starts off each and every fight with Tidal Wave, which is a guaranteed TPK unless you're ready for it.

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However, Shinryu can be berserked. This poorly timed screenshot partially captures Krile getting a hit in with the Power Staff. This really simplifies things but leaves the possibility that he'll just steamroll over each party member individually. It's pretty futile to force feed the party dozens of Phoenix Downs, so a more permanent solution is required.

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I JUUUUUST found out that the Blind drops accuracy to 25% of what it once was. This is HUGE. Add some Elven Mantles into the mix and the chance of surviving at attack climbs even higher. With that in mind, it's time to summon our inner Dovahkiin and stomp this thing.

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Hey uh,

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UM

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SO HEY the regular blindness !Mix combo doesn't seem to work on Shinryu for whatever reason despite the whole 100% status effect accuracy for chemistry majors thing. However, the one that involves both blind and confuse works. Because ?????????????

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After that it's just a matter of having Monty drink DRAGONFORCE and hacking away. Sure the party gets roughed up on occasion, but its no biggie. Also, the effects of DRAGONFORCE last the whole battle even if Monty gets whacked. This operates differently from every other buff out there and is great for these kinds of fights.

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Ta-ta friend.

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So long, and thanks for all the seals.

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This is more or less what I've been waiting for.

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I wasn't treating the Brave Blade right from the start of the game and now it's time to swap up. We had some good times for sure, though.

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With the path clear, the only thing left is Exdeath himself.

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What are you going to do, have your leaves change color in their general direction?

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HEY THOSE GUYS STILL HAVE MY POWER TOOLS. You gunna get in now, buddy!

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Exdeath is definitely very different than the two extra bosses. The sum total of his HP is somewhere between 250k and 300k with his first form and all 4 parts of his second form put together. Neo Exdeath in particular covers a horrifying array of painful moves and can effectively do you in with physical attacks, magical attacks, and status effects. He's intended to be taken on with a party full of well traveled companions, each with a few job classes maxed out and to the point where Freelancer and Mimic should be used to take advantage of passive skills. The extra bosses have gimmicks that are to be exploited while Exdeath challenges the player to milk the job system for all it's worth. But this is the Final Fantasy 5 Four Job Fiesta! We take him on with what we've got!

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His first form is actually a bit troublesome as he's got a physical attack that can 1HKO all but the hardiest party member. His White Circle (forgot the exact name) is also a 1HKO that petrifies them while killing them, meaning you have to go through all sorts of trouble trying to recover.

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The second form is very different and should be handled as such.

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The big trick to Neo Exdeath is knowing the nuances of each part. For instance, the central part uses Grand Cross and the barely selectable bottom front bit uses Almagest. Both of these will probably throw your party for a loop harder than the other stuff the other parts can dish out.

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Some goofy experimenting leads to some interesting discoveries.

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Of course, my recklessness gets me done in.

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Setting things up for a second attempt means a bit more of a serious go of things. I still try to do things legit, but...

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OH YOU'RE JUST ADORABLE. PREPARE TO BE HUGGED. It's time to bring the cheese!

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Vengeance starts with our old friend Break Blade. Monty gets pumped full of DRAGONFORCE but only after the entire party gets the !Mix combo that nets a Goliath Tonic.

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It just so happens that the Almagest piece is weak to petrification. There goes some 55k HP of Neo Exdeath in one hit.

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The Grand Cross bit is next because there's always that chance that a bunch of your party will be petrified/zombified! It's chopped to bits in a hurry.

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The top piece is next to last because we have a surprise waiting for that back piece. This is intentionally done as I had found out the hard way that if there is only one piece left it'll go NUTS and the gloves will be off.

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With the front section gone, the Magic Lamp contains one big surprise for that la-

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OOPS! Hold please...

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Odin, who I never actually got, is the last Gungnir in Exdeath's coffin. The rear, which is typically the easiest to contend with, is weak to instant death attacks!

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And summoning him up makes it look like a giant graphical glitch.

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With that, Neo Exdeath is done. Hurrah!

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Hey I've seen Ribs in so many of these credit rolls. :V

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Knights are more boring than watching paint dry on growing grass while eating plain white bread that's been kept until it's gone stale. However, two handing weapons is a fantastic damage boost and their tanking abilities keep them alive long enough to seriously dish out the pain. If I had any other class, random battles would have been a pain and Monty was crushing bosses left and right with the Brave Blade.

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Mystic Knights may not have been as impressive as I thought they might be, but are useful nonetheless. They might serve little purpose on a regular encounter, especially if what they're attacking isn't weak to anything. However, any baddie with a weakness became a victim in short order. Break blade worked as well as I could have hoped and as soon as I got Flare they were capable of dishing out a fair bit of hurt regardless of circumstance.

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Beastmasters were a pleasant surprise. Damage output and survivablility were both pretty solid. Yeah, !Catch was used rarely at best, but great to have nonetheless. They really shine with !Control, which was a necessity for surviving some battles. With the Hypno Crown, they have a great ability that will benefit the team throughout the length of the game. !Calm came through in the clutch as well.

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Chemists earn their reputation as being borderline broken utility players. Buffs, healing, status effects, instant-kill-always-effective stuff, and more. Sticking them in the back row was practically a requirement and their damage output isn't worth anything even when it comes to their potent offensive mixtures, but hoo boy is everything else they do fantastic. Although they require a great deal of knowledge to fully utilize, it was all worth it. DRAGONFORCE POTIONS, HO! Give me these guys over the Blue Mage's finicky RNG and long wait period for all the useful spells any day of the week.Yes, BM was critical to last year's victory, but it came down to 2 spells and not their entire range of tricks. Those 2 spells were received well after the game's midpoint and arguably past the 3/4 mark. Meanwhile, I used so many different !Mixes this year for many different situations and had them at my fingertips throughout much of the game.

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I think I'll take it a bit easy on the storytelling next year, but this romp which probably covered somewhere in the neighborhood of 500+ images and a novella's worth of text was still fun in its own right. Maybe I'll stop being so forgetful, learn how to properly write titles, and decide on which in-game terms should be capitalized or not before that time, but that's looking doubtful. Until then!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on August 06, 2015, 02:47:33 AM
With the Barrier Tower down, there's nothing stopping us from waltzing through the front door of Exdeath's Castle!

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...oh
That's a pretty reasonable security measure. 

Now here I'm going to take a slight detour instead of making a bee-line to Ghido.  My team has very clear strengths and weaknesses - Atomos was an example of the former, but with a lack of AoE and reliable healing the next boss most certainly falls into the latter category.  I knew my strategy as soon as I got all my classes - to defeat the Seal Crystals, we must become Team Fight Fire With !RapidFire.

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Except that !RapidFire is the capstone ability of the Ranger class, which is an additional 405 AP after the level I'm currently at.  Oh dear  :ohdear:

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Welcome to Bal Castle Basement.  It's time to ruin dozens of art history essay topics by throwing.... magical syringes?  Knitting needles?  I never really thought about what a "gold needle" actually would be.  Either way, it's the most efficient way to get AP and unlike my prior runs boy howdy do I need it. 

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Not too shabby!  I can most certainly finish up Ranger while I'm in the forest, and mastering Mystic Knight on HALLO? is just the icing on the fiesta cake.
As an aside, my current choice of Netflix shows for grinding is BoJack Horseman which I highly recommend.  I still have plenty of episodes left for Chicken Knife grinding don't you worry.

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Ok I lied, another slight detour this time to get to Moore a smidge ahead of schedule for a certain something no I didn't take 20 minutes to figure out how to actually get there what are you talking about?

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For those keeping score at home, -ga spellblades against a non-heavy monster that's weak to that element is insta-kill.  Sweet!

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No need for it this year kids, gonna get me some dosh instead.

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Now that I'm back on Plot Track, the only things that really gave me trouble in Ghido's cave were these buggers.   >:( Vampire  >:(  I feel no shame Break-blading them in their squishy face before they can even think about it.

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bb no

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Christmas mention count: 2
I like Christmas, I can get behind living on this planet if they have it too - minus all this crystal breaking and subsequent destruction going on of course.

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Our buddy Ghido fills in some of the gaps we had re: Exdeath and gives us a Plot StickTM so we can mosey on into the Forest of Moore and (obviously not) break YET ANOTHER SEAL. Given how we've done the rest of the game to this point I'm just ever so slightly skeptical we won't goof this up somehow.

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I've already geared up in Moore so into the woods I go!

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The moment I was waiting for.  In retrospect I should have just kept Galuf as a little for reasons that will become clear in a bit.

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Yeah that instant KO with Firaga Blade is rad.

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And the monsters were so generous!  I wound up with 4 Wizard Hats too bad I don't have any wizards this year  :ohdear:
It's hard to see where you're going in this forest I always disliked it, but eventually I make my way through and then....

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Sorry Smokey the Bear  :(

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As we flail around aimlessly for a bit, this shield is ready to rock and/or roll.  I have TWO shield bearers this year so it will find a nice home!

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Mooglefriend to the rescue!

(http://i.imgur.com/aK63snY.png)
....

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It's about all we can do, and take a dive in the recovery spring.  Once the fires die out we can head back up the Mooglehole.

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whomp whomp

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I wonder what sort of hilariously flammable present was in there before we channeled some California.

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Plot StickTM has some pretty sweet terraforming capabilities.

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THE MOMENT YOU'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR

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Welcome to the Seal Crystals. 7777 HP a piece, and they each have their own elemental attributes.  Get one of them below 3k and they go into bonkers Mode.  Bonkers Mode is basically the crystals running around like a chicken with its head cut off but instead of a chicken it's spells that will 2 if not 1-shot me, shy of having reflect rings (oops) or flare rings (oops2)

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ON THE OTHER HAND much like 1/3 of the bosses in the game they aren't heavy, and I'm sporting a MurderBow.  Which can now attack 4 times in one turn and therefore has 4 chances to activate you see where this is going.

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I wound up wiping my first attempt through as I forgot just how terribad Bonkers Mode is when your healing is either RNG or linked to your attack stat  and decided I could still whittle down a crystal while waiting for insta-death to hit :ohdear:  Two Aqua Breaths and welp.

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Take 2!
This time I just let Gramps have at the pewpews and everyone else would fling hi-potions as needed to make sure we didn't go into Bonkers Mode.  Looking back, if I had the mini status he'd be doing ticklekitten damage and I wouldn't have had to heal the crystals WHOOPS.

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\o/

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ruh-roh now you gone dunnit

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IT'S ON

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Galuf is too badass to let something as minor as "having zero hit points" get in the way of messing with Exdeath.

(http://i.imgur.com/xCRkwGg.png)
Though when the plot immunity wears off....

(http://i.imgur.com/lZa0WLM.png)
;_____________________;

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I was really worried my first time through the game at this point, that all my work would go to waste so let me tell you this screen was like Christmas (mention count: 3) to junior-high triangles.

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Only if he left the door unlocked when taking out the recycling.

Tomorrow I'll be streaming again and knocking down Exdeath's door oh boy!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on August 06, 2015, 02:54:42 AM
Twintania
I hope you abused when she's charging Gigaflare she is no longer Heavy and susceptible to a number of hilarious statuses including Break and Frog  :V

EDIT: 8:17pm and the party's about to start (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles) I was too busy doing boring dinner and laundry things earlier this evening oops. Exdeath was a super dumb battle but I WON GOOD RIDDANCE probably the only time where I was happy to get zombie status also next year someone remind me if I wind up with no mages go get a reflect ring  kthx.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on August 09, 2015, 12:51:51 AM
I don't feel bad about triple posting it'd been 3 days 8:50pm August 8th watch me try and beat the pyramid not 100% sober (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles) hahaha I wiped on my way to the save point after Wendigo A++++ xXx420noscopeMLGgamerxXx

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Team 99 Mid-Tonics Hi-Potions gets prepped for the final romp in Act 2 because boy oh boy it's gonna be a doozy.

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Sounds like a plan!
spoiler: he socks me a lot more times first

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Exdeath's Castle seems oddly friendly and mundane and missing An Exdeath.

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Ah yes, decor ala Saya no Uta is more like it.  Let's press onward!

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Fiesta Rule: If you roll Dancer you must make Buttz your primary/endgame Dancer.  ~*~fashionable~*~

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This is how I dealt with 90% of random encounters.  How far we've come since quick save scumming to avoid these jokers.

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Elixirs are always welcome, I'll be needing to stock up.

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wheres my present

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oh u

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Gilgamesh Battle The Fourth and oh dear it gets very silly very fast.  But eventually I pokepokepoke my way through his HP pool.

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That's the word I used to describe what my cats do with each other how precious sort of :3

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On the other hand I don't think Exdeath is too fond of me winning all of our tussle so far ruh-roh

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Also somewhere in all this mess just pretend there's a number of screens showing me flailing around the lava floors and wiping a few times because oops I miss Time Mage  :ohdear:
After all that, we made it to the 13th floor and the CEO's office.

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And now the fun begins.  I have a team where my healing was limited to Drain Sword, Lance, and items so I knew this was going to be tricky and arguably the hardest non-super boss battle for my crew.  He has a 2/3 chance of starting the battle off with this fun spell, in addition to some of his AI script choices being significantly worse for my team than others I wound up just resetting a few times if things were looking pretty garbage right from the get-go, but I still did the regular ol' wipe thing too.

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Though it was either the first or second attempt, and I soon found myself with all but Krile either zombied or dead.  This wound up working out pretty well surprisingly, as they couldn't really hurt Krile and she was in the air half the time anyway.

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Zombied party members also served as a warm (cold?) body to eat Exdeath's spells.  I actually made it to his final spell rotation on this go-through and almost beat him.... before Krile got hit twice :(

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I played Job Class and Ability Musical Chairs a bit after every wipe, and lucky for me Zent was in my stream chat and reminded me I can use the super-sexy !Spellblade/!RapidFire combo because of course I forget the main synergy my team is rocking.  I still wound up with a zombie dummy target but Drain Blade along with !Aim and !Jump and of course the blessings of the RNGods to dodge some nasty things....

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GOOD RIDDANCE

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More broken crystals why I never.

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Was it all a dream?

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wait a minute

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wait a minute

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It's that part of the game where our heroes come back home and celebration time \o/
And hey at least no matter which eligible bachelorette HALLO? scores with he'll wind up royalty!

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Buddy why are you so bad at actual non-battle dancing :fail:

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The party ain't over yet, and we have some adventuring to do!

Check back again soon for more fun times from Team Zombie Goasts Leave This Place
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Garlyle on August 12, 2015, 03:34:36 AM
Attempting to finish streaming the FJF tonight (http://www.hitbox.tv/garlyle)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on August 13, 2015, 11:29:16 PM
EDIT: 8:37pm and I'm gonna be streaming real soon.  Can I beat Exdeath tonight?  Hopefully! (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles) VICTORY!!! Omega and Shinryuu you're on notice!

Sweet looks like I will not be guilty of quadruple-posting though this is gonna be a bit of a doozy to catch up.  I also was slightly not 100% sober for a good chunk of this so my collection of screenshots is a bit..... eclectic yeah we'll go with that.
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Team Even My Friends Mock My Driving Skills set out from Tycoon to explore whatever the heck turf we're tumbling on.

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Hark, a plot gating bridge has been erected!  We mosey on over to pretty much the only cave that's ripe for the exploring, meeting our ol' pal Boko who is somehow getting more action than a team who socked Exdeath, and promptly fall in because of course .

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hey wait this looks familiar...

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(thx google image search)

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Hello Antlion.  This guy isn't hard, really the worst he can do is Dischord you to ticklekitten attack levels.  Too bad he never did it to Krile  :V  Roast and toast the sucker.

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Faris taunts us with our rescue as she wasn't too please with being stuck in fancypants (fancydress?) sry

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I've played enough JRPGs to think otherwise Krile.
With +1 Princess we venture onward, and run into our old buddy Ghido's Cave!  Somehow not sunken!

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Plot exposition and sass, what more can a girl ask for?  Turns out World 1 + World 2 = World 3 both mathematically and literally :o
(I guess we could call it World 0 but where's the fun in that)

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oops

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Exdeath is somehow twirling his mustache evilly right now I'm sure.
Did I mention I forgot to unequip Lenna?  Because I forgot to unequip Lenna and she has all my good Dragoon gear whoops.

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Anatomy class throwback count: 2

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Another tussle ensues, but I somehow don't think he's going to beat the final boss for us :(
Well enough of that, once we leave the cave Ghido spots something super exciting.... a library!

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OF COURSE THAT'S WHY THE SCHOLARS LOOKED LIKE TURTLES

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Oh Ghido never change.  But now we know what we're after, and the first stop is the Pyramid!

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These chuckleheads can give a party some issues since they'll revive each other over and over if they don't get aced in quick succession.  !RapidFire Break Blade puts a stop to that mighty fast.  But before I head in, it's time to get one of the pieces of my end game murder train puzzle.

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Chicken Knife, ho!  And unlike last year I can work around the flee effect - actually in multiple ways, but the most optimal is of course !RapidFire.

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Anyway the Pyramid is still dumb and I run a lot (as I realize I never really took the time to max out the Chicken Knife oops) but when I do fight Break/Firaga Blade makes quick work of these undead punks.  Take note of the class choices - two years back I learned Dancer is just asking for trouble when I inevitably forget it has a 50/50 chance of hurting me in battle :fail:

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I get the first of the Tablets of +3 Weapons and take the elevator out.

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This somehow triggers more terraforming shenanigans, which is now highlighted under "special skills" on my resume at this point.

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Lenna's come down with a nasty case of The Evils.

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ok good I fixed it. 
Melusine does this thing where her weakness shifts every few turns but who's got time to change up Spell Blades not this crew. 

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And after all that we have our airship back!  We could make a beeline for ~the rift~ but there's a few goodies I'm out to collect first.  Time to explore!

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Gee thanks for the vote of confidence where do you get off saying stuff like tha-

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...oh

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HALLO????

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I stop on by Mirage for All The Bling.  Other goodies I collect around now are the first (and only) three sealed weapons I'll be using this run: Holy Lance, Assassin Dagger, and Yoichi Bow.

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Family portrait of all the randos I'm going to beat up between now and the end of the game (though fuck doing the undersea trench)  once I get some more goodies.  The Island Shrine is first on the order of operations, where's that?

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What a suspicious shrine surrounded by mountains that we have no way to get to surely this will never become important to the story.
:o
Blah blah blah rock and roll some more gargoyles not much to show.  I completely forget to take screencaps inside, it's another slidey warp pipe thing to find treasure chests then the boss...

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um excuse me also plus one Choco-hobo.

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Meet Wendigo, which probably wins the award for the absolute dumbest boss battle in the game.  The gimmick here is only one of those yolos is the real one and able be damaged, and every time you hit the real one it'll shuffle about.  Assassin's Dagger works in that it doesn't accomplish anything real.  Just don't use AoE attacks (not that I even can :fail: though !RapidFire is ok) and you'll eventually win even through all the dumb Mind Blast castings. zzzzzz......

(note - I managed to wipe out on my way to the save point "WHY BOTHER HEALING IT'S LIKE RIGHT THERE?" and had to redo the fight gg report noob jungler)

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Somehow this unlocks Fork Tower, which is my primary objective.
With another tablet in hand, I might as well grab some more toys.

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That Holy Lance really puts the hurt on Exdeath ghosties in the Sealed Castle.  Careful observers will notice I switched up my classes again because....

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Faris is gonna get a pretty pretty princess ribbon to go with that swanktastic Dragoon armor for the endgame  :3 because let's be real what other than jumping and item chucking will she be doing?

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~*~~*~the economy~*~~*~

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KRILE: OMEGA SMASHERTM
(in progress)

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Fork Tower has been very (in)conveniently parks on top of Cid and Mid's Secret Stash.  I don't really have a "magic" team for the split but it doesn't really matter because I do have a fantastic answer to the jokers at the top.

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I am told he actually uses the Time Magic STFU spell to make sure it's all fite all nite but I don't think I ever bothered to bring anything that would get locked out.  Well whatever just slice and dice and heal if needed.

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WHOMP WHOMP
!Spellblade has spell in the name so it's totally magic, allowing me to stabbystabby in the face without him ragequitting and resetting the Nintendo.

We blow the towers up  (intentional destruction count: 2) and I score Flare and Holy as party favors.  Pretend there's screencaps of me getting the Magic Lamp and the Flare Ring out of the Undersea Trench before I nope'd out of there.

~*~AND THEN~*~
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We're done for all but post-game prep, it's time to face our destiny.

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 :dragonforce:

Next time on Team I Hope 99 Mid Tonics Hi-Potions Are Enough I shall reprise my socking of Exdeath to the face and hopefully not getting splinters!  On stream even so you can all judge me when I die in a really dumb way!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on August 18, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
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Welcome back to Team Rift Walkers , as we start our final trek of punching 1000 year sealed demons in the face.  We proceed through an abbreviated desert and Ronka Ruins segment, running and/or Break Blading whatever punks dare challenge us, before reaching Mirage Village frozen in time.

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Nobody can answer the door, but they left us some nice Halloween candy on the porch.

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Next up is the void version of the Moore Forest which ugh I always hate the limited field of view.  The first of Exdeath's gang guards the exit.

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We already fought one basically naked lady in a forest why not another one!  I don't believe any party should have trouble with her, she does some Reflect shenanigans but otherwise her only actual attack is a Drain spell which if you can't outdamage at this stage I think you probably cheat coded your way in this far.  Once that's done with, we take the path through the tree into a cave which has some pain in the butt encounters but is otherwise fairly unremarkable until...

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wow what a cutie hello friend except by friend I mean murderbot.  My team is one of the better ones to send Omega to the junkyard, and while I didn't specifically prepare yet let's give him a shot.

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Thundaga !RapidFire Chicken Knife is the only thing I've got that will do more than ticklekitten damage.  Krile was level 33 or 34, and you can see I would have to survive for 3 rounds of knifery to take Omega out.  This is a lot for a team with nothing in the way of mitigation or buffing abilities.

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And even if I could throw up some shields or Chemist silliness or what have you, I still have to contend with RNG shenanigans like how Omega can abra-cadabra POOF whisk someone out of the battle entirely how rude.  The best chance for victory involves Krile getting a few more levels and I ain't got time for that now.  Let's press on!

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At the end of the cave I crack open a book that's probably not going to be featured on Reading Rainbow any time soon.

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Apanda is Byblos 2.0, this time I don't miss 50% of my attacks so that was pretty good.  He'd throw up Protect in response to an attack but that doesn't mean much in the face of the powerhouse that is Krile.

The ~dimensional switch~ allows us to walk out into the ruined tower part which is luckily pretty short and no bosses hooray.  As Reddyne noted, this is a pretty awesome place to restock Dragon Fangs for the final jaunt otherwise eh nothing to write home about (also I didn't take any screencaps oops)  The castle that follows on the other hand has a number of friends....

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First up, parking his big ol' magic butt in one of the castle jail cells (which we actually WANT to enter for a change) is Senor Azulmagia.  I wish I had Blue Mage because you can do a really silly thing but alas, perhaps next Fiesta.  Instead I stick to what's been working, and that is housing scrubs with Flare Spellblade and jumping on their heads.

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And what was hiding under Azulmagia's robe was none other than another save point!  There's some nastiness up ahead so it is in your best interest to snag it.

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um excuse me r00d

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Don't ask me why a tentacle eyeball can summon earthquakes but boy does that hurt.  My levels are I think on the lower side of average, so Earth Shaker easily one-shots everyone not sporting a shield.  I just rush the sucker and call in an optometrist to deal with the aftermath.  Mosey out of the dungeon and up to the throne room...

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3 princesses vs. 1, I think we win but alas it's battle time.

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Wannabe Flea over here starts the battle by casting froggie on us.  Keep him/her around long enough and you'll be getting a mouthful of Holy but I don't get to that point.  Did I mention that Flare Spellblade with Rapid Fire/Sword Dance is really silly?  Because it is.

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Oh sweet I remember her this will be easy because she can be Break Blade'd when charging Gigaflare ezpz

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Well crap I forgot about that.  I was just so excited that there was a small window I could instakill Twintania, I forgot that I actually had to survive long enough to see it.  This means it's probably in my best interest to not attack and eat Tidal Wave counters in the face, and charge Break Blade prior to her vulnerability window, all things I neglected leading to more game overs than I care to admit.

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Good riddance. 

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All aboard the SS Wobble-Warp!

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Welcome to the last stop before Voidville.  Look who's here!

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Friend??

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 :V  Gilgy realizes he doesn't want to tussle and we catch up a bit.

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o/ bye friend!
At this point I just run from what encounters I can, Breakblade/Jump onto what I can't.  Home stretch!  Don't got time to deal with any other jokers! (plus they hit hard and I'm already job mastered on everything I need)  I make sure to skip the Shinryu chest because whoadang am I not ready for that just yet.

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This my friends is the grand finale save point and I most certainly want it.

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I just have one (ok, four) small problems first.  Until I take out the little barrier bugs, I can't touch Necrophobe even though Rapid Fire sure wants to try.

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The barriers will reflect-bounce some nasty spells, single and multi-target, onto my party which really hurt.  They don't have a lot of HP, but they like attacking all at once and that's not cool guys :( 

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uh oh he mad bro

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But looks like SOMEBODY'S got a weakness to Holy  :V

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HALLO AGAIN FRIEND  :3

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This is so shounen I can see the flame aura surrounding him.

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And thus also goes out in a blaze of glory.

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;_;
o7


The only thing left in our way, is Exdeath himself.  We're almost there kids.  Just one more writeup to go!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on August 19, 2015, 03:03:40 PM
Join us again for the concluding adventures of Team RNG ILU BB UR GR8.
Seriously the rest was pretty mesmerizing.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Third Eye Lem on August 22, 2015, 05:31:29 AM
I did it. I saved the world. (https://twitter.com/LemGambino/status/634959677277671424) :V

Shoutouts to !Mix, Hastega, Aeroga and Air Knives. However, I don't think I have the patience to play with Shinryu and Omega this year. I'd like to take a break from RPGs for a bit before looking at FFV again. Despite that, this was quite fun.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on August 26, 2015, 04:24:30 AM
Managed three runs this year (http://fourjobfiesta.com/players.php?player=zentillion), my last victory performed last night.

Also, a recording (http://livestre.am/5bbwv) of the final battle was done. There were a couple of questionable choices in my strategy, but in the end you get to see just what happens to Neo Exdeath with a team that has a Summoner and a Chemist. Shoulda hiked up Lenna's level just a little more so she'd be doing 9k damage with each Leviathan, but I wound up not needing to. Oh well! BV
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on August 26, 2015, 11:06:20 AM
Hi there, I've been gone for so long now, and just picked up the pace.

I have come out from the pyramid, gone through Island Shrine, Fork Tower (Minotaur was tough), Great Sea Trench (Tango Selfdestruct LOL), and Istory Falls, but didn't fight Leviathan.

I have gone through the rift, and I'm now stuck at the final stretch. I need some tips for survival, as it seems I can't win against Neo Exdeath, Almagest is guaranteed to party wipe me except a fully healed Monk.

My party is:
Barehanded Dancer
Ribboned Time Mage
Rapid Firing Ranger
Dancing Monk

Thank you.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on August 26, 2015, 02:39:24 PM
Hi there, I've been gone for so long now, and just picked up the pace.

I have come out from the pyramid, gone through Island Shrine, Fork Tower (Minotaur was tough), Great Sea Trench (Tango Selfdestruct LOL), and Istory Falls, but didn't fight Leviathan.

I have gone through the rift, and I'm now stuck at the final stretch. I need some tips for survival, as it seems I can't win against Neo Exdeath, Almagest is guaranteed to party wipe me except a fully healed Monk.

My party is:
Barehanded Dancer
Ribboned Time Mage
Rapid Firing Ranger
Dancing Monk

Thank you.
Team RNG: The ReveNGe.

Considering how little you've got in the way of healing, a bum-rush strategy might be best. Tossing elixirs around and hoping that people survive gets painful quickly and often results in trouble.

If possible, use the magic lamp to summon Odin and have him take out the back piece ASAP. It'll take all of one character's turn and will mean that you're focusing less on other parts. If not, hopefully you have a bow with a chance of a death proc. So long as you can one-shot it, target the bottom right part (which is actually hard to target) since killing that part will stop Almagest.

I'm not sure what kind of damage you're doing, but here's my thoughts on the 1-2 punch of the dancing monk/monking dancer combo:

The dancing monk has the benefit of equipping the Kaiser Knuckles which you probably got from the deep sea trench. Hopefully the RNG works in your favor and Sword Dance activates. I wonder if they could equip anything that boosts Sword Dance activation?

The monking dancer has the benefit of equipping the Rainbow Dress which you probably got from the castle part of ~*~THE VOID~*~. This will help the RNG work in your favor for Sword Dance but I'm not sure how the damage would work out. It may be best to just equip them with the chicken knife and leave that ability slot for something else. Namely, time magic for Quick.

Sword Dance does x4 damage. The Rainbow Dress will boost activation of it by x2. This gives favor to the dancer so long as the monk's Kaiser Knuckle doesn't double the damage output.

The chicken knife could be swapped onto the ranger once the back piece is gone, or just use the Yoichi Bow. Simply use normal attacks on that bottom right piece and hope they don't try to escape instead. Some math crunching shows that the numbers favor using the direct regular attacks to start.

Have the time mage use Hastega and then spam Quick on your most reliable damage dealer. The ribbon on the time mage is actually a pretty sound strategy since both Exdeath and Neo Exdeath can hit you with negative statuses and whoever has Quick will be able to help the party the most. In short, this character is your support buddy when not spamming Quick.

Once the Almagest piece is done, split attacking between the remaining two parts. It might take some head-bashing and the RNG being in your favor, but I think it can work? Some people might be able to add more to it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on August 26, 2015, 04:35:54 PM
Thank you for the tip.

I HAVE NOW COMPLETED THE RUN! YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

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The party is still the same, except some changes:
HP Boosted Dancer with Chicken Knife
Ribboned Ranger

The Dancer ended up getting 9999 damage in every Sword Dance, fastening the killing process. But it took a few tries, why?
In one run EVERY DANCE ON THE ALMAGEST ENDS UP BEING MYSTERY WALTZES ARGH!
The Time Mage is equipped with every Magic Boosting equipment, so they have the highest magic. When Neo Exdeath shows up the mage starts with Quick and summons Bahamut and Leviathan for ~5000 damage on everything, followed up by someone summoning Odin to take care of the back. Next is focusing the Almagest, if I am so lucky I can beat it before it casts Almagest, but it got casted anyway, leaving my Monk in 2 digits, with some time to revive the Time Mage and then Quick supporting the others. From there it's manageable.

I have a question, DOES GRAND CROSS BYPASSES RIBBONS? BECAUSE I THINK I GET STATUSED EVEN IF I RIBBONED THE CHARACTERS. HOW?

But nevermind, I'm done anyway, next would be only Shinryu, since Omega is too hard to handle.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: The ⑨th Zentillion on August 26, 2015, 05:55:20 PM
Congrats! And, yeah, Grand Cross will apply statuses even if you have a Ribbon, as the only actual statuses it prevents are:

Instant KO's, Petrify, Toad, Poison, Blind, Old, Berserk, Silence.
Which means stuff like Slow, Stop, Confuse, Mini, and some other things can get through your defenses - any Sword Dance Up equipment will prevent Confuse and Hermes Sandals laugh at Slow, Stop, and Paralysis... but Zombie, sending you to critical hp and Mini (especially the first of those) can still happen and ruin your day, especially if Grand Cross really feels like rolling the worst one(s).
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: Reddyne on August 26, 2015, 06:08:39 PM
 :toot:  :toot:  :toot:
Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: jester147 on August 28, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
Hey, if any of you happened to read this, I'll stream for the Bonus Boss attempt.

http://www.twitch.tv/jester147


EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/hhgv7bY.png)

SHINRYU DEFEATED! YAY FOR RNG!

Only Omega left, which I will need some strategy, or is it impossible with my party?

Title: Re: Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta - the mystery box edition
Post by: triangles on September 01, 2015, 01:23:24 AM
Today's the last day of the Fiesta, so what better way to celebrate than my final wrap up?
No of course I hadn't been working on this on and off for a week, lost my work at one point, and never bothered to blitz through and post what are you talking about?

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Team ALL FITE ALL NITE gets ready to tango with the tree.  My sister pointed out that this reminds her of Pocahontas' tree grandma which now I'm never going to unsee. Here's a video of the Exdeadening (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles/v/10834822) but for those who prefer the screenshots and/or don't want to have to put up with my yapping keep on scrolling down....


(http://i.imgur.com/Mhh5CGm.png)
Exhibit A) Exdeath Exterminator Move the First

(http://i.imgur.com/HzdOxrG.png)
Exhibit B) Exdeath Exterminator Move the Second
Exdeath was a bit of a scrub.  Sure he can and did one shot me with 80% of what he threw my way, but he didn't last long in the face of Rapid Fire and back to back Sword Dance crits.

(http://i.imgur.com/jvZpFsU.png)
gg

(http://i.imgur.com/vd74znD.png)
oh wait

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First order of business is to take out the bottom-right dopey sheepy-looking thing, which is the punk responsible for Almagest, I flat out didn't have the HP to survive a hit but that's ok because I knew I could get cheeky with lower levels because I have ~BREAK BLADE~ good riddance.  Meanwhile, that dragon unicorn looking buttface is such a rebel and don't need no laws.

(http://i.imgur.com/Z3EwSb7.png)
Welcome to Grand Cross, which can throw basically any status ailment at me.  Roll d20, see if you lose.  I gave Faris Equip Ribbon so half my team got to be pretty pretty fashionable princesses (and a chocohobo) which definitely helped.


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The human/skeleton bit is basically KING OF THE WIZARDS and is in charge of all the spells in the face to one-shot me.  Note how even with the ribbon, Faris still gets to be a little  :3  I kept her as such for the rest of the battle for the increase in evasion.

(http://i.imgur.com/O5Dm7jW.png)
2spooky skelewizard is usually taken out in the Fiesta by a Magic Lamp Odin summon and I'm not about to get cheeky and do something novel with a team with no buffing/healing abilities outside of elixirs.

(http://i.imgur.com/9PwgWLw.png)
I may or may not have dun goofd a bit and knocked out one of the remaining parts sooner than I hoped with less friends around than would be preferable...

(http://i.imgur.com/lszSw6e.png)
...but that last segment had less than 10k HP left so one round of !RapidFire was enough to secure victory!
:toot:


Whoa buddy let's not get too complacent, we still have two more tussles ahead of us.

Next up is Omega.  Mystic Knight/Ranger is one of the premiere class combos for taking it out, and it's possible to do so in just three actions from your OMeGa MVP.  The trick is of course surviving that many rounds.  Here's the video, as you might imagine a successful attempt is rather short. (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles/v/11457684) 

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Those keeping track at home will see that Krile is popping out significantly higher damage than the last update.  I  kept a save from earlier in the rift, where I could level her up a bit and played around with her equipment to maximize strength and agility (which the Chicken Knife scales off of.)  Omega's defense/evade stats are too damn high to realistically depend on any of my other buds to put the hurt on, but its lightning weakness makes having Spellblade hilarious.

(http://i.imgur.com/cD0bl1U.png)
THE PROBLEM IS this triggers buckets of counterattacks, which is why I wanted to minimize how many actions I'd need.  One of those counterattacks is Encircle, which is where I get robot'd so hard in the face someone in my party forgets how to battle and disappears off the field.  This happening to Krile is bad.  The "best" case is plain ol' Rocket Punch where I just take percent damage and get confused and oops Krile already smacked herself to death and now Faris is gonna bite it too ruh-roh.

(http://i.imgur.com/sRlxycf.png)
Angel babby to the rescue!

(http://i.imgur.com/it1tcT1.png)
Chicken Knife doing a set amount of damage does eliminate one potential avenue of RNG heartbreak.  Victory is guarenteed at this point.

(http://i.imgur.com/xWcPETC.png)
:toot:

The battle is not difficult, it's really just luck.  Does someone eat an insta-death attack right from the start?  Do I get a full party wipe because I can't do anything against Earthquake?  Am I even still on the screen? ???  These are all the RNG shenanigans one must deal with, and it really is pure luck I did it on my first attempt on stream.  My test battles to see when Krile would be able to pump out enough damage?  Hahahaha those were something alright :fail:


AND NOW FOR THE REAL FUN  :V :V :V :V :V :V :V :V :V

(http://i.imgur.com/F6wuIAu.png)
I needed to prep another save file, this time where I made enough dosh to afford 3 Coral Rings, and going back to these chuckleheads to Thief Knife me a Dragon Lance.  My most flagrant abuse of save states well tough cookies I regret nothing.

(http://i.imgur.com/y4dkVEX.png)
I also had to make sure my levels were such that I wasn't going to get roflstomped by Level 2 Old/Level 3 Flare - Krile was Level 40 for the Omega Outing (Faris was her accountabilibuddy while I was getting her up to speed which is why she's higher than the others)

(http://i.imgur.com/bp1RlJe.png)
Dragoon is kind of a one trick pony, but that one trick is pretty handy for Shinryu! 

(http://i.imgur.com/dnRlmU6.png)
(https://fbcdn-dragon-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t39.1997-6/p133x133/851575_631487560212652_1282721556_n.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/9cAnvrL.png)
sup kids what'd I miss?

(http://i.imgur.com/SSohPbt.png)
Not only does Faris literally skip over Tidal Wave she does a redorkulous amount of damage on her return!

(http://i.imgur.com/CkRWD7B.png)
Also sporting the Aegis Shield had its perks....

(http://i.imgur.com/jMkReM1.png)
...because you get to dodge that nastiness RIP in pieces everyone else :(

(http://i.imgur.com/xlVnxy5.png)
She's not invincible however  :ohdear:

(http://i.imgur.com/Mau6dtK.png)
Omega and Shinryu have about the same  HP but I couldn't exploit a weakness for Rapid Fire silliness like last time, leading to longer battles and therefore more chances to get completely and unavoidably trashed.  When you can't Blink/Berserk cheeseball it's kill or be killed and I am really really good at the latter.

After about half a dozen wipes or so, I switch Faris to Bone Mail.  A number of Shinryu's tricks are negated with that in conjunction with the Ribbon and being in the air half the time, and in my testing runs I did not stream Bone Mail was instrumental to extending the fight.

(http://i.imgur.com/RvnCUsS.png)
Roulette, Poison Breath and a few times in my trials I even saw Zombie Time were all things Faris got to laugh off.

(http://i.imgur.com/YNYtRNL.png)
Of course a giant smack to the face, not so much.

BUT THEN FINALLY....! (http://www.twitch.tv/made_of_triangles/v/11462062)
WATCH AND BEHOLD BEING RNG BLESSED

(http://i.imgur.com/y7hyD5P.png)
Lenna got many crits in a row...

(http://i.imgur.com/GQDFvf6.png)
Swords were Danced...

(http://i.imgur.com/vHFzjso.png)
...and victory was had :toot:

(http://i.imgur.com/gXNw48R.png)
"so let's put this really baller sword that'd be good at murdering intergalactic demon dragons in a box guarded by an intergalactic demon dragon also let's make absolutely no indication that we're hiding an intergalactic demon dragon in here instead of a hi-potion"
"sounds good to me"


With the game thoroughly conquered, let's take a looksee at this year's line up...

(http://i.imgur.com/6OCETA3.png)
This is my 3rd year of Fiesta-ing, and Mystic Knight was the first time I got to use classic elemental damage in the form of !Spellblade.  Suck it, Soul Cannon.  She really shined on bosses with elemental and status weaknesses, though was fairly ho-hum in random encounters before BREAK BLADE.  BREAK BLADE allowed for the roflstomping of many many things, nevermind Flare Sword absolutely shredding bosses, and oh yeah I also could throw Drain on there it's just nutso.  If I had to give out such an award, Mystic Knight Krile would most certainly win OMG 4JF MVP but thanks largely in part from....

(http://i.imgur.com/6PtzyTb.png)
Rolling Ranger next was pretty much a slam dunk in conjunction with Mystic Knight.  They're the peanut butter and murder jelly sandwich of FF5, and even outside of Fiesta rules the premiere Omega busting combo.  But even without the obvious synergy Ranger definitely pulled her own weight.  !Animals was fairly useful in World 1 and gave me a (somewhat reliable) manner of healing along with BEES.  Access to the Killer Bow was key to beating the Seal Guardians quadruple so when paired with the shining star of the class, !RapidFire.  It is such a good skill I got it on two of my party members by the end game.

(http://i.imgur.com/Bo12QPD.png)
Yup, totally worth it.

(http://i.imgur.com/3sQaSOK.png)
Dragoon is often considered as the dud roll of the Earth Crystal, and I can see why.  As mentioned earlier she's a one trick pony that can reenact my favorite Skyrim glitch and launch into the air, where the heavy armor and ability to take hits for her comrades is not as well utilized.  !Lance was all but useless for a mage-free team and unfortunately lances were not compatible with Mystic Knight shenanigans much to my dismay.  There really wasn't much to do for useful multi-classing for the most part than backup ??healing?? with !Animals.  Dragoon was instrumental in taking out Shinryu in a reasonable timeframe thanks to the Dragon Lance (which was not easy to get) and in the end game she got to be a Ribbon-resist tank thanks to...

(http://i.imgur.com/Qd7R0Oa.png)
So we meet again, Dancer Bartz.  Two years ago crossing my fingers for Chicken Knife Sword !Dance was the most reliable damage I had.  This year I had a much more worthy wielder in my !RapidFire Mystic Knight - even though it still had an element of randomness, it was not nearly the same level of battle despair as rolling 4 Mystery Waltzes in a row.  Using !Spellblade in conjunction with Sword Dance was pretty sweet don't get me wrong and even without the Chicken Knife getting a Flame-empowered crit did hit for 9999 on Exdeath phase 1... but you need to win that coin toss to get the Sword Dance.  Needing to be plopped in the front row (unlike Ranger) without the ability to wear anything resembling armor (unlike Mystic Knight and Dragoon) plus one of the lowest HP totals in the game leads to a glass cannon who gets outcannoned by a tank :fail: At least he will forever be the most ~*~fashionable~*~

(http://i.imgur.com/C37jFlo.png)
All in all I was satisfied with my lineup.  It was kind of downhill after the first two class reveals but it could have been a far dicier trek to save the world and hey I can't complain with a triple crown team for the third year running.  It was the first year I didn't have too much in the way of healing and nothing in the battle buff department, which wasn't quite as big a problem as I would have originally feared.  The hardest battle hands down was World 2 Exdeath ugh but I kinda knew going in that was going to be the case (honorable mention to Dragon Pod because I really didn't have any good answers to that jerk other than crossing my fingers and slogging through)  I'll most certainly be doing ~chaos mode~ again and seeing what emerges.

It's been fun kids, see you all next year~