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Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG. It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon. It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more. If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any. (It's recommended you don't because then you will be feeding the mighty Juggler-empire lead by the Dark Lord YamaP and his army of really good artists.)
You can control monsters from lowly slimes to even lowlier dragons to mighty Awoken Buddhas like Bastet (as seen on TV-er above). They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.
Real talk though, the real reason to get into this game is because everyone else here is playing it and has been playing non-stop for the past 2 years :V , and probably won't stop for a long time thanks to the constant updates to the game and its mechanics, balance changes that never directly nerf anything and are mostly focused on increasing the viability of older monsters, and of course the endless addition of new monsters and collabs that are dished out on a regular basis.
If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/
A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine. It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a Buddha). Great starters include any of the Chinese Buddhas, Ares, Bastet, Isis (<3), Idunn & Idunna, Lu Bu, Zhuge Liang, Odin, Kali, Shiva, Sonia, and many others. Feel free to ask!
If you need more help or just want to discuss the game, we also have a P&D channel on the MotK IRC network in here. Just type your name and go.
For those using IRC clients other than webchat, the channel is #puzzleandlibrarians on irc.ppirc.net.
List of friends + Main Leaders:
Edible: 328,945,274 (Ronia*, Bastet)
hyorinryu: 357.646.299 (Sakuya, Perseus)
Suikama: 348.941.282 (Isis*, Nut*/Ronia/Athena/Whatever)
triangles: 322.456.235 (LMeta*, Santa Sakuya)
Chaore: 344,844,286 (Verdandi, Shiva)
Yukarin: 394.177.213 (Haku*, LKali*)
Jq1790: 396,049,294 (Athena, LMeta)
Pesco: 328 276 294 (Rodin, Ronia)
Dibble: 314,673,283 (Isis, Buddhain)
Matsuri: 358,689,277 (Athena, Pandora)
Fast Fanatic: 359,184,275 (TAMADRAPurin*, Beelzebub*)
Sacchi Hikaru: 385,394,297 (Horus, GZL)
rdj: 338,277,280 (AA Lucifer, Athena)
Chirei: 326,404,383 (Leilan*, Athena)
commandercool: 312,728,337 (Reine*, Gabriel*)
Aoshi: 398,822,333 (LMeta, I&I)
Conqueror: 331,616,320 (DQXQ, I&I)
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268 (Athena, LMeta*)
Dorakyura: 347,957,300 (Nepthys)
Bio: 336,681,244 (Sakuya, Athena)
En: 351,629,319 (Lu Bu*, Haku)
(Asterisk next to leaders means "hypermax" - +297, max skill)
Topic Archive
Thread I (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Thread II (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Thread III (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
Thread IV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15728.0.html)
Thread V (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16090.0.html)
Thread VI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16209.0.html)
Thread VII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16326.0.html)
Thread VIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16604.0.html)
Thread IX (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16767.0.html)
Thread X (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17002.0.html)
Thread XI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17175.0.html)
Thread XII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17337.0.html)
Thread XIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17483.0.html)
Thread XIV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17582.0.html)
Thread XV (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17678.0.html)
Thread XVI (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17748.0.html)
Thread XVII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17904.0.html)
Thread XVIII (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=18079.0)
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Oh yeah everyone post your main leader RIGHT NOW GO GO GO
otherwise i'll just put you down as ronia cause its the safest bet :derp:
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Oh yeah everyone post your main leader RIGHT NOW GO GO GO
otherwise i'll just put you down as ronia cause its the safest bet :derp:
didn't we do this last thread
edimoe you are the worst
submit to your verdandi overlords since she's the one always up
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Cheerleader Nephthys :flowerpower:
otherwise i'll just put you down as ronia cause its the safest bet :derp:
Chibi Ronia, at least
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Beelzebub main (obviously) here. Coincidentally one of the better partners for Ronia but who needs RCV.
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Oh yeah it's a new thread so I'ma purge the unbelievers, hang on
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Oh yeah it's a new thread so I'ma purge the unbelievers, hang on
YOU ARE TOO LATE
I HAVE ALREADY ASSUMED CONTROL
also eventually we should have every active player's leaders up in the OP so it will be obvious who needs to be purged
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I guess my main is Athena, though hopefully Karin will usurp her when her teammates have more levels so their stats dont suck.
Oh right also evo'd Princess Valk to her 7* form. Just I think 4 more cost and she cam finally earn her place among the Gods.
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My main is Gabriel. Of course.
With any luck he'll be hypermax by the end of the day. Just two HP eggs to go, so close...
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I HAVE ALREADY ASSUMED CONTROL
You assumed incorrectly BV
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So if the Sphinx shown on Murako's Twitter is the other evo mat for Bastet, I wonder why that eye on her forehead is there. :wat:
Makes sense, though; the sphinx has shown up in other art already so it was probably just a matter of time.
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...soon there will be an asterisk beside Haku's name.
SOON
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You assumed incorrectly BV
goddammit
So if the Sphinx shown on Murako's Twitter is the other evo mat for Bastet, I wonder why that eye on her forehead is there. :wat:
Makes sense, though; the sphinx has shown up in other art already so it was probably just a matter of time.
Also he says that "This character is so holds the key of ultimate awakening of Egypt God series" so I guess all of the Egypt 2.0s will need him and thus they will all share something. Maybe it's a dragon type and so everyone will become dragons? Or maybe it's just a new evo mat that will be needed on top of two descend bosses?
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...soon there will be an asterisk beside LMeta's name.
SOON
Also yo thread title I'm still waiting for Awoken Greek :ohdear:
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Oh yeah everyone post your main leader RIGHT NOW GO GO GO
BAO Batman+Batarang / Raoh / Red Sky Fruit Strawberry Dragon
in other news SOME BLOODY DAY, CAUCHEMARRRRRRRRRRRR (even if I am waaaaaaay not well-equipped like y'all mofos :V
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Also he says that "This character is so holds the key of ultimate awakening of Egypt God series" so I guess all of the Egypt 2.0s will need him and thus they will all share something. Maybe it's a dragon type and so everyone will become dragons? Or maybe it's just a new evo mat that will be needed on top of two descend bosses?
iuno about Isis, they're still missing a blue egypt descend so what will they do about that? Of course she may just have medjed and whatever else then become B/G.
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totally unrelated to anything but today i learned that the strawberries in the background of the red insect dungeon can be knocked off by your attacks :V
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Oh yeah everyone post your main leader RIGHT NOW GO GO GO
otherwise i'll just put you down as ronia cause its the safest bet :derp:
Make mine Athena and Pandora for now I guess since they're who I use most.
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Sacchi Hikaru: 385,394,297 (Horus*, GZL)
Horus ain't hypermaxxed yet - +270 still and only 1 skillup (SINCE I HAVE SHIT LUCK ON BOTH APPARENTLY.)
Also my adventures on Earth Insect Dragon Legend (TM) have given me a whopping 1 Oneton, which did not skillup Leeza.
I am seriously considering using my woodpy.
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blame edible for all mistakes
also do not use woodpy on leeza
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edit: fuck
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totally unrelated to anything but today i learned that the strawberries in the background of the red insect dungeon can be knocked off by your attacks :V
new descends, now with fully destructible backgrounds :X
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totally unrelated to anything but today i learned that the strawberries in the background of the red insect dungeon can be knocked off by your attacks :V
Fun fact: Pretty sure they do the same thing in the Flower Dragon dungeons where that background first appeared! They also fall off periodically on their own I think.
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2.5x skill-up for next event
2.5x skill-up for next event
2.5x skill-up for next event
2.5x skill-up for next event
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Now watch as Onetons continue to refuse to drop while Vishnu calmly makes his way to max skilled before I even have half a mind to put him in a team somewhere.
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SINCE WHEN DOES VISHNU HAVE DOUBLE TPA HOLY SHIT CU CHU GTFO THE TEAM PLS
skillups please
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Oh shit. Oh shit. I'm dropping my alt farming and stocking up on Beyzuls so I can maybe get a single skillup maybe!
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BLADE OF JUSTICE
FINALLY VERCHE SKILLUPS
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Now watch as Onetons continue to refuse to drop while Vishnu calmly makes his way to max skilled before I even have half a mind to put him in a team somewhere.
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SINCE WHEN DOES VISHNU HAVE DOUBLE TPA HOLY SHIT CU CHU GTFO THE TEAM PLS
skillups please
Are you really planning on kicking Cu Chu?
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/580629817814605824
Sphinx
R / L
Physical / Devil
Awakenings: TPA / Finger / Skill Boost
AS: Mystic Lazer - Deals 6666 damage to one enemy, ignoring defense. Increase orb manipulation time by 2.0s for 1 turn.
LS: When matching all 5 attributes, ATK x5. Physical type RCV x1.5
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/580630382032367616
Awoken Bastet (IN DEVELOPMENT)
G / R
Devil / Balanced
Added Awakenings: Skill Boost + Finger + TPA + Green Orb Enhance
AS: Wild Cats - For 1 turn, attacks will hit all enemies. For 1 turn, Wood Attribute ATK boosted by x1.5
LS: ATK x3 when reaching 5 or above combos. When eliminating 5 connected hearts, ATK x1.5 bonus. When eliminating 6 of them, ATK x2.0 bonus
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/580630382032367616
Awoken Bastet (IN DEVELOPMENT)
G / R
Devil / Balanced
Added Awakenings: Skill Boost + Finger + TPA + Green Orb Enhance
AS: Wild Cats - For 1 turn, attacks will hit all enemies. For 1 turn, Wood Attribute ATK boosted by x1.5
LS: ATK x3 when reaching 5 or above combos. When eliminating 5 connected hearts, ATK x1.5 bonus. When eliminating 6 of them, ATK x2.0 bonus
Why did she inherit the finger instead of TPA from Sphinx :x pls
LS looks funky what with needing you to join hearts together WHILE doing combos. Of course the fingers make up for the increased difficulty, but I'm still not liking them throwing these new heart related LS onto bastet. (I have no Perseus, Michael, Verdandi, the three best green heartmakers. RIP)
BUT I'd still try to make this work!
First of all, I think I'm gonna need to pair up with a Verdandi frd. Mainly to make up for my lack of heartmakers, and also the hp boost is really nice now that bastet also gets it.
With my box I can do Bastet/ Astaroth,LiuBei,Amitan,Thief / Verdandi
Liu Bei is super conflicting here and is only here for the TPAs which is needed since we can't be activating the 4.5x or 6x on bastet consistently. Also the 3k heal saves lives. If only Amitan doesn't use dark to make hearts. sigh
Hopefully this can get me through mid-bosses with verdandi's hp boost.
For bosses,
Board arrangement expert netete (http://www.dropbox.com/sh/xdw74ha20m93psk/AACJry8iW8Y9zZ_Yy6ADfjaja/%E7%81%AB%E5%8A%9B%E9%85%8D%E7%BD%AE%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F%E3%81%AA%E3%81%A9/%E5%9B%9E%E5%BE%A95%E5%80%8B%E6%B6%88%E3%81%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC?dl=0) has figured out the best boards for Lakshmi(rows) and Parvati (TPAs), of which bastet can make use of both.
The 6x can be triggered with even just 8 hearts generated by Verdandi+Astaroth combo (with two TPA combos!), and if there's 10-12, there are arrangements for 3 rows.
I don't know what to feel about this. It seems like it kinda works, but doesn't feel optimal.
Trying to stay positive here.
People are complaining on twitter.
They are obviously pulling a Lakshmi/Parvati/Vegito where they take complains and change stuff.
But of course there are no promises, so in that case I'll keep thinking how to make Bastet work with my stuff I guess.
:v
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Are you really planning on kicking Cu Chu?
Well, unless you have a better option of whom to kick from G/R Liu Bei, Leeza, Cu Chu and Michael.
I mean, I guess I could kick Michael for his lack of TPAs and his lack of skillups (because I have zero patience for centaurs).
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Well, unless you have a better option of whom to kick from G/R Liu Bei, Leeza, Cu Chu and Michael.
I mean, I guess I could kick Michael for his lack of TPAs and his lack of skillups (because I have zero patience for centaurs).
vishnu makes a better lead, he has literally zero potential as a sub because of his AS... why would you use his AS as a sub when you can just use an orb changer...
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Because my only other option is Michael, whom I have no real desire to skillup and who has no TPAs, while Vishnu has two, plus his insane recovery can be a hindrance in a "below 80% HP team" and the fact that his orbchange gives me hearts doesn't help either.
Plus, I'm getting some skillups for Vishnu while trying to skillup leeza.
Not that Michael is bad, it's just Vishnu seems like a better option overall, but if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
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Star Vault later! I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna finish Gabriel.
So much for farming Beyzuls. I did grab two, so I guess that's decent. Assuming the event starts Friday or Saturday I should have time to get at least a few more.
Edit: Urgent Athena dungeons tomorrow throwing me further off track! I would love to get her finished so I can stop grinding her stupid, boring dungeon so I guess I better stock up on those too. And maybe with 2.5x skillups I can get that last elusive Cu Chu skillup that has evaded me after like 20+ feeds now that I finally have a use for him (assuming he drops at all, which he rarely does from Athena).
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Wow I thought we were going to get something new and original for egypts
But nope just MORE heart based leader skills :/
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Wow I thought we were going to get something new and original for egypts
But nope just MORE heart based leader skills :/
[11:30] <Dorakyura> inb4 Awoken Isis will be even worse
[11:31] <trance|work> dora pls
[11:31] <trance|work> youre breaking suecomma's heart
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Not that Michael is bad, it's just Vishnu seems like a better option overall, but if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
I guess if you have no one better for GZL then Vishnu is okay but again his AS is literally useless for any Green-team that isn't himself as a lead.
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Awoken Bastet really just seems kind of underwhelming.
And I would rather have 3 turns of spread cats than 1 turn of cats and a little extra wood damage.
That said, as a leader she has really good synergy with parvati now, I guess?
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And I would rather have 3 turns of spread cats than 1 turn of cats and a little extra wood damage.
Well I guess it depends on the cooldowns since one of double-bastet's main selling points is a permanent 15% damage boost to wood. And permanent multi-target.
Though I somehow doubt they'll be giving something as good as a 1.5x wood damage multiplier a 2-turn cooldown... :/
And yeah, Awoken Bastet is extremely underwhelming, makes me shudder at the thought of Awoken Horus.
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[11:30] <Dorakyura> inb4 Awoken Isis will be even worse
[11:31] <trance|work> dora pls
[11:31] <trance|work> youre breaking suecomma's heart
If she needs hearts as well then she will be worse
Because the blue heart making sub pool is godawful
Andromeda, Gabriel, and to some extent Amberjack, Ruka, Sleeping Beauty, Siren
Seem okay right? Until you realize NONE OF THEM HAVE SUBATTS
And then everyone else kills hearts so they're all useless
RIP Valk, U&Y, Starling, etc
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If she needs hearts as well then she will be worse
Because the blue heart making sub pool is godawful
Andromeda, Gabriel, and to some extent Amberjack, Ruka, Sleeping Beauty, Siren
awoken lakshmi biznitch
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Alright time to break down Bastet in detail
So first her base stats
Wood/Fire was expected. Not much to say except it gives Verdandi synergy which is nice
Devil/Balanced was also generally expected. No attacker means no GZL/Liu synergy but that's okay because her leader skill totally screws that up anyways lol
Her weighted total stats is 747.4 which is only 3 less than her other forms which is okay. Other awokens have lost more and furthermore this form has the most well rounded stats.
Awakenings oh boy. Bit of Lakshi syndrome here where she has both one row and one TPA. Nope no triple TPA here let alone double.
Still I guess you can't complain too much about gaining a skill boost, TPA, time+, and green+. Skill Boost gives you synergy with orb changers, Time+ lets you pull off her leader skill better, green+ for potential 100% +orbs with Verdandi + someone else, and TPA is still TPA.
It would have been better though if she kept her devil form awakenings and thus had double TPA rather than TPA + 1 row. That one row isn't going very far with Bastet but I guess it helps if you want to use her as a Perseus sub or something?
Active is wow boring. I thought they would try something interesting and give her some orb change but nope, literally just a tweaked active.
Ignoring the useless spread legscats part which is even more useless thanks to it being only 1 turn now, her active is basically a 1.5x multiplier every 6 turns, which isn't that bad, but it's not amazing either when you consider there exist some 1.5x on 5 turns.
Still it's okay since it lets you hit x81 twice every 6 turns with dual Bastet leaders, and damage enhancing on leaders i good in general since it lets you focus all your subs on orb changing.
On the other hand her value as a sub still isn't that good. Well it's better than before I guess. She's sort of like GZL except weaker but has more utility by buffing all wood types and has two time+.
Leader skill is actually very close to what I guessed. I got the 3x atk for 5 combo right. The part I didn't get was the fact that instead of powering up on green orbs, they literally gave her Tiphon's leader ability added on top. Actually further more her awakenings are very similar as well. The difference is she has an extra time+, green+, and poison resist, which is ehh.
Also the slap in the face part is that the heart orbs MUST BE CONNECTED. This means you lose out on combos and have to get them elsewhere. At least it's only 5 combos though which is still not too hard, although doing it with a big ass block of hearts could prove to be very tricky.
Actually not really cause even Ronia needs 6 combos + rows so it's fine lol.
The lamest part though is how similar it is to parvati's. You basically just trade some RCV for more attack, but hey at least everyone like having more attack right? I dunno, I mean yeah it's strong but ehh.
Anyways most importantly is who to use her with.
Interestingly enough, Awoken Parvati becomes one of her best subs. Melon dragon works too since it also changes water to heart and has great awakenings.
Verdandi is an obvious pick because she gives wood and heart orbs. Also with her you have 80% green+ skyfalls and combined with parvati that's 100%.
Perseus is another obvious high synergy pick. He gives skill lock resists so with him and the others you have 100% skill lock resist, 100% green +orbs, 2.5 seconds+, and 5 skill boosts. Also 60% poison resist and 3 rows lol.
Liu Bei seems like a bad idea at first, but people still pulled him off with Parvati simply by, using his active with Parvati's. He's still the best pronger around.
Astaroth give a lowish cooldown orb changer that has synergy with Verdandi to create a full green/heart board.
So yeah like Awoken Parvati/Lakshi she's plenty strong, but also she's a bit too much like then and it's kind of boring. Especially since the good subs for each overlap pretty hard. Meanwhile many of the subs that people might already be using for Bastet like Avalon Drake, Gonia, and Genbu all lose value.
Also they revealed Bastet without even showing Isis' art god dammit more waiting :colonveeplusalpha:
awoken lakshmi biznitch
Still no subatt :colonveeplusalpha:
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The main issue is that it's very hard to consistently run into boards where you can get 5 combo+6 connected heart orbs at once. Fortunately Awoken Bastet leads give you 2.0s extra time manipulation right off the bat. Which is very good. If you run Perseus that's another extra time extend. But you already knew that. Crux of the matter is that this Awoken Bastet failed to meet ANYBODY's expectations and there is a reason why GungHo call it a development shot
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You don't need to pull off x6 consistently though. x3 is enough for clearing any mobs and then you save your heart orbs and actives for the x6 bursts when needed.
Okay time for best girl based on Bastet's stuff
First of all Bastet is No. 2011 and Sphinx is 2008 so I think it's safe to assume Horus is 2009 and Isis is 2010 :V
So since the grimore thing seems to be bust over sphinx, I guess this means Isis will be Water/Fire.
There aren't any water Egyptian descends though and Noah and Zeus Merc are already being used. This leaves just Wadatsumi. Although then I dunno what happens to her typing. Either she gets Physical from Sphinx but then that's either Physical/God which has no difference from before or Physical/Balance which is ??? or she Devil/Balance which doesn't work because she has none of those types originally or she's Devil/God which would be weird.
Or maybe she'll just use Paulina and be Physical/Devil eh whatever.
If she does use Wadatsumi then her awakenings will probably be: Blue+, Fire+, Bind-resist, Bind-Resist, SB, Time+, Skill lock-resist, Water row
SB and time+ from Sphinx just like Bastet. Then skill-lock resist and water row from wada. Basically making her like Bastet but trading off TPA and a time+ for bind immunity.
So since Bastet's active was only slightly tweaked, I guess Isis will only be slightly tweak to be something like Heal 10/15% HP and clear 2/3 turns of bind. Basically just make the heal scale better with the high HP of physicals, although right now a +297 Isis heals 2.4k with her active so if it only heals 10% then it will be weaker than normal until you hit 24k HP which would be awful.
Leader skill should be at base x3 for 3 atts including hearts like Bastet's slightly upgraded version of her base leader skill.
Then on top of that it's probably going to be x2 for two heart matches aka hi Gadius. Either that or it's the exact same as Bastet with x1.5 for 5 hearts x2 for 6. Whatever. In any case the key difference is you can't pull off dual color boards as usual. While Bastet has to at least 5 combo, Isis needs to keep 1 side att, which SUCKS because once again she would have terrible synergy with existing subs. Because all of the ones that create heart orbs don't have different subtypes arggg!!
Like let's look a potential subs, which are still being forced into rainbow in order to make sure you can pull off her x3.
B/R: completely awful outside of farmables. Literally the only REM option is Orochi who doesn't orb change at all. Hopefully Isis herself with be B/R though to cover this
B/G: U&Y kills hearts. Starling kills hearts. Berry Dragon is okay but its stats still suck. Skuld is the only real option.
B/L: Valk kills hearts (goddammit). Trunks is collab only and wont ever come out here. Hermes kills hearts. Amon is the only real option.
B/D: Karin and Sonia don't make hearts. Bodin is the only real choice.
B/B: WHOA LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE OPTIONS. LAKSHI, AMBERJACK, ANDROMEDA, RUKA, GABRIEL, HATSUME, AND MANY MORE, OH BOY SURE IT GREAT HOW THEY'RE ALL B/B
See the problem is you're so limited that if you don't have those exact subs then you might as well just play goddamn Lakshi.
Now to be fair you don't HAVE to cover every color especially since you're going to be changing orbs anyways. You're probably best off with Skuld and maybe Bodin for the beef and then just convert all your light orbs away of actives.
Still the main problem with this is it's difficult to optimize and people hate that. People hated that about regular Isis too which is why everyone flocked to Horus/Kirin even though in a practical sense they weren't actually that much better. In this case people are going to much prefer Lakshi where you aren't limited in subs and can just stick whatever combination of Andromedas and Skulds you have together and it counts as optimal. Also Lakshi's active is a lot better because it actually makes hearts.
What they should do is make her like Krishna. 1.5x for two water orb matches and x2 for three water orbs. That way you still have synergy with almost every water orb changer but still have the 'weakness' of not being compatible with dual color boards to keep her balanced.
Meanwhile Horus is gonna be x4 for 4 atts and 1.5x for 5 hearts and it will be even worse lol.
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Meanwhile Horus is gonna be x4 for 4 atts and 1.5x for 5 hearts and it will be even worse lol.
tbh I'm 100% sure they're going to fuck up every single one of the egyptians if they even remotely try to go for the heart-matching shenanigan, but since the juggler (and gadius) hype is too real they'll probably continue to fuck up the egyptians anyway.
I don't know, Awoken Bastet, despite being a WIP, has just killed my entire hype for Awoken Horus, I'll just wait and see what they do and if it doesn't meet my expectations I'll just stick with F/L.
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I mean it's still super strong and way stronger than the base forms
But it's just... lame
hopefully they make some changes
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>x6 for 5 combos basically
gungho fucking plz.
atleast make shiva better ;;
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More like x6 for 6 hearts basically
Since 5 combos is pretty easy especially with all those time+
Not to mention a lot of bosses force you to combo over 5 anyways with their combo shields
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I'm more concerned about her active being crap. Her leaderskill is wonky, but at least it's a buff.
Spread Cats was already almost completely useless now that everyone does damage either through rows or TPA. It severely limited Bastet's use as a sub. And now they're making it so it only lasts one turn in exchange for more of a shitty damage buff?
Like, this is the only awoken monster whose active is literally worse than it was previously.
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The spread cats part is basically negligible, who cares when you're pulling off TPAs and rows anyways
Her active is really 1.5x every 6 turns, which isn't too bad. Higher multiplers synergizes better with burst so when you pop her active + orb changers you hit for x81 before awakenings which is hard to complain about. Only thing is 6 turns is kind of silly since the Weapon series beats it.
IMO if they brought it down to 4-5 turns or so then it would be good
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I'm more concerned about her active being crap. Her leaderskill is wonky, but at least it's a buff.
Spread Cats was already almost completely useless now that everyone does damage either through rows or TPA. It severely limited Bastet's use as a sub. And now they're making it so it only lasts one turn in exchange for more of a shitty damage buff?
Like, this is the only awoken monster whose active is literally worse than it was previously.
i'd expect a change almost instantly
theres no way that they won't get a bunch of complaints and buff it to be a better freyja
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Wow if it was 1.5x for three turns
Then basically that's 5 combos to hit 4.5x :V
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Wow if it was 1.5x for three turns
Then basically that's 5 combos to hit 4.5x :V
welcome to ultra broken cat town suikama
embrace it.
embrace the destruction of our game
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I think they're going to adjust her leaderskill to 3x for 5+ combos, and 2x for two heart combos.
Honestly damage boosts are kind of boring actives unless they're 2x or higher, I'd much rather they find a way to make the original spread cats ability actually useful. Maybe something to do with activating rows or TPAs.
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spread cats makes it so that TPAs become 4 orbs+
So that way when you match rows you also get TPA bonuses...
...oh god how much damage would that be
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spread cats makes it so that TPAs become 4 orbs+
So that way when you match rows you also get TPA bonuses...
...oh god how much damage would that be
oh crap that's kind of scary
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Yeah Awoken Bastet is kinda ridiculous, you just gotta use her right.
Meanwhile Sphinx all but confirms an Awoken Ra in the future, considering that Sphinx is basically Ra but Better (tm). Active with time extend, stat boost in leader skill, though with a lower multiplier.
With all the time GH has spent making so many other gods Basically Ra but Better he has to get a kick upward eventually.
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y o y did i reinstall this game
someone please look at my padherder (https://www.padherder.com/user/o4rfish/monsters/) and tell me if I can build a decent team nowadays
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y o y did i reinstall this game
someone please look at my padherder (https://www.padherder.com/user/o4rfish/monsters/) and tell me if I can build a decent team nowadays
Ameno/Suzaku/Dino Rider/Goemon/Hera-Ur (or Shiva)/Ameno
Would burn everything. Probably.
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Ameno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZkekS8NQU
but yeah that box is still pretty great
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I feel like there is a Leilan team in there, and if you take a look at Chirei there, you'll see she can run the game over in several areas if you get good with her.
Maybe for now something like Leilan/[evo a Mandrake to Alraune, then ult when you can]/Jotunn/Echidna/[Verche or Valk]?
Ask Chirei, he can guide you on proper care and nurturing of Leilans.
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oh why did I even forget Hinokagutsuchi
Um yeah your mono-red is incredible and ignoring it would make me sad
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I'm more concerned about her active being crap. Her leaderskill is wonky, but at least it's a buff.
Spread Cats was already almost completely useless now that everyone does damage either through rows or TPA. It severely limited Bastet's use as a sub. And now they're making it so it only lasts one turn in exchange for more of a shitty damage buff?
Like, this is the only awoken monster whose active is literally worse than it was previously.
Eh, I'm kinda ok with the awakenings and AS. They could've been better, and I welcome more buffs, but at least it isn't like that LS.
THE LS.
Ok. First of all, connecting 5+ hearts is just completely against what a combo god should be.
You'd also notice that her LS is very similar to Parvati. 5 combo for x3 vs unconditional 2.5x atk 1.5x rcv. Yeah...
Requiring hearts limit Bastet's burst options by a lot, even more than Parvati because she doesn't make hearts herself, so Liu Bei? nope.
I can see why they're making her this though. Legend dungeon pictures have been put into the data in the update ongoing right now, and you would remember there are heart related awakenings and they all require more than 4 hearts. Especially that +-shaped heart shield thing which requires 5 linked hearts. But, I'm not sure about this... this whole heart thing really conflicts with combo gods but I don't know how they can improve it if we assume this is the case.
Edit: One change I'd like to see would probably be increasing the "base side", like going up to 7c 16x like G/L (if that's too good, lower everything to Kushi level like 5c 6.25x, 6c 9x, 7c 12.25x, 8x 16x?)
Then have a lower heart-boost (5 heart for extra 1.5x only? or even less)
The idea is, if you make connected hearts, your combo count is gonna be lower. If their idea is to not let egyptians get left out when these heart-related awakenings become good, let them play like usual, but retain their damage when they go for the +-shaped heart. It is unlikely people are make stuff like 6colours+5connected heart or 8c+5connected heart, etc short of skyfalls anyways.
Of course this is coming from a person who loves using bastet and is super biased.
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is the +shaped heart thing going to require any 5 connected hearts or specifically a + shape?
and thanks guys, I guess I just have to farm up some red food and a couple mystic masks. Shouldn't be too difficult.
I also specced out a potential Noah team (https://www.padherder.com/user/o4rfish/teams/#132077). How workable does it look?
(not sure why the friend lucifer looks weird like that though)
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specifically a + i think
the question is does more than 5 count? like 6 heart orbs in a cross
cause if not then ehh no synergy with awoken bastet oh boy
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(http://i.imgur.com/1hRTGPB.png)
Pazudora School
Who's ready for moar JKs
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Oh crap, I forgot about the need for friend leaders!
My id is 389956257 if anyone has a Luci for Noah today.
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Who's ready for moar JKs
Suikama (http://blog-imgs-67.fc2.com/m/i/n/minpuzz/04b6db1d.jpg)
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Suikama (http://blog-imgs-67.fc2.com/m/i/n/minpuzz/04b6db1d.jpg)
:*
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(not sure why the friend lucifer looks weird like that though)
Oh, that's "rebel seraph lucifer"(note the lack of capital letters), a chibi form from the special REM in Christmas. Look for the version that looks more normal(lower monster number) if you want the Awakenings you're expecting to show up in the sim.
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well skilling up was easy enough
No reason to run Mephisto's skillup dungeon anymore. (http://imgur.com/C6Iidba)
re: 1/1 for Susano
3/6 for Mephisto but nobody cares :c
1/1 for Udon
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star vault oh boy
i now have 147 +eggs spread across 5 tamadras and i have no idea who to feed them to because we still have no info on awoken isis >_>
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Roll a famiel in the upcoming godfest and use it on her.
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Of course this is coming from a person who loves using bastet and is super biased.
I'll say.
Different isn't a bad thing, and I'm sure you'll grow to love it if you open up your heart.
Let the flaming cats into your heart, thaws.
Pazudora School
Who's ready for moar JKs
...plz
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Oh noooo I fucked up very slightly on the incredibly precise timing of my Star Vault plan for today and lost a single run. What will I ever will I do (the plan was slightly dependent on experience variability anyway, so whatever). I only need two HP eggs for Gabriel, so it shouldn't matter.
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First time running star vault seriously today. One rank up stamina bar and three stones spent.
Final results:
Parvati: +60 -> +96
Not bad, I'd say.
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Aw crap, my Luci team doesn't have enough health for the dragon's breath on penultimate stage of Noah. I could put Shiva on the team, but I need 1 more level for cost.
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Thaws kept chastising me when I insisted on making a Vegito team, he kept questioning me saying "where are your dragons?"
(http://i.imgur.com/jxGFXiI.png)
here are my motherfucking dragons Thaws :getdown:
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Thaws kept chastising me when I insisted on making a Vegito team, he kept questioning me saying "where are your dragons?"
(http://i.imgur.com/jxGFXiI.png)
here are my motherfucking dragons Thaws :getdown:
OP
TFW I realize Gadius's AS is not deadweight.
But Goemon's AS is still kinda deadweight.
I'll say.
Different isn't a bad thing, and I'm sure you'll grow to love it if you open up your heart.
Let the flaming cats into your heart, thaws.
chaore pls
I'm trying.
If this is how it gonna be I'm gonna run Bastet/ LiuBei Astaroth Andromeda Thief / Verdandi
Team's funky but I'm sure it'd work somehow, but I'm not sure if I want to change my hyper cat into that or my dupe one if it's like this.
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(http://i.imgur.com/9F8D4Xr.jpg)
Gimme one of those stars I've joined the hypermaxed club :toot:
(holy shit I went 2/2 during this ninja skill up bonus period)
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I wish my 1.5x boost people were up 6 turns in. Especially when that's all they do. I kinda want a Bastet now. Would be happier with Freya though.
hypermax
Congrats. I need to join the hypermax club. I want a star too :V
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uh guys
i don't know how, but i think i cheated
somehow
(http://i.imgur.com/ok73GhO.png)
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uh guys
i don't know how, but i think i cheated
somehow
(http://i.imgur.com/ok73GhO.png)
what a coincidence, so did i
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zhTlJa_RRc8/VROD6-Vnl4I/AAAAAAAAAzk/bEBV5Ns9KWo/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
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(http://i.imgur.com/jGeVuWUl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/jGeVuWU.jpg)
game, maybe you could give me something like this on a wave that matters
like triple shrimp
EDIT: oh I guess that's something that combo could do for me
(http://i.imgur.com/9aqIOwZl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9aqIOwZ.jpg)
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:toot:
(http://i.imgur.com/bkHU51B.png)
He's so beautiful. Give him that asterisk next to his name on the front page now. That is the proof of his existence.
Also, while I was finding those last two +HP eggs, this happened.
(http://i.imgur.com/O03Df8m.png)
Christ.
uh guys
i don't know how, but i think i cheated
somehow
(http://i.imgur.com/ok73GhO.png)
I had a run where I got four. Also had a few where I got zero though, so it evened out.
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Dropped 900 stamina in an hour. Fun times.
Beelzebub hit +294 out of this. He already has a * on the front post, but whatever I'm sure he'll get that +3 ATK soon enough.
I also gave Persephone +40 in HP and RCV eggs. :/
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Meanwhile I slept through star vault and this ninja skillup period gave me a whopping 0/2 on leeza and 1/6 on Vishnu.
:(
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Meanwhile I slept through star vault and this ninja skillup period gave me a whopping 0/2 on leeza and 1/6 on Vishnu.
:(
you do know there's a x2.5 skill up rate period on Friday right
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I had a run where I got four. Also had a few where I got zero though, so it evened out.
Yeah, I used two stones and a rank up, but I kinda regret using the second stone because for some reason I got three 0-runs out of the seven on that bar (228 max stamina). Happens, I guess.
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Egyptian god of the (first edition) Series "flame falcon god ? Horus "and "love cats God-Bastet", "sun god Ra" a is used as a material for making the ultimate awakening evolution!
oh
oh
oh
*throws phone into the trash*
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isn't that announcement simply stating that the sphinx will be an evo mat for bastet horus and ra?
or is it another announcement altogether?
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http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150326_sphinx.html
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Oh shit, a challenge series where the Bubpy is in a slot I can definitely clear. Between this and the period of 2.5x skillups maybe I really can make a big dent in Beyzul. Hopefully I can finish him just in time for the inevitably announcement that he's getting an ultimate with a new skill. But at least then he'll have an ultimate.
Edit: And a green snow globe. Could go to Liu Bei or to Verdandi, works for me either way.
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What? You have to eat REM gods?
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There is quite literally no chance of that, Oarfish(and I guess Suikama) because of the same thimg that stopped people from needing multiple Ceres for her Awoken form when that was announced at first. Or am I missing something different here?
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It's just saying that Sphinx is an evo mat for the egypt 1.0 awoken evos.
I suspect suikama misused google translate <_<
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what no
what i mean is THERE IS NO AWOKEN ISIS
its probably because she isn't fire so they have to make another boss for her but fuckkkkk
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what no
what i mean is THERE IS NO AWOKEN ISIS
There is no Awoken Isis for the month of March, you mean.
YamaP already mentioned he planned for SOME of the Awoken Egyptian ults to be released by the end of the month, and April's already next Wednesday lol
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So what has the pattern with 2.5x skillups been on the JP server? How common are they? Should I expect this to be a thing or is it super rare?
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>new SB cards
oh i wonder why-
>they're all pretty mediocre
oh
okay.
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I dunno, man. They're all 4-stars and 12-cost so they're eligible for everything but Draggie!? Apollo goes pretty well with Urd bar his 0 RCV; he's practically an honorary China Girl in terms of leader skill.
Maxius has 2x enhance for Light and Water and doesn't kill your RCV. TAMADRApurin is feeling pretty obsoleted.
Of course, this is just me coveting things that we're unlikely to see in NA for a long time.
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I dunno, man. They're all 4-stars and 12-cost so they're eligible for everything but Draggie!? Apollo goes pretty well with Urd bar his 0 RCV; he's practically an honorary China Girl in terms of leader skill.
Maxius has 2x enhance for Light and Water and doesn't kill your RCV. TAMADRApurin is feeling pretty obsoleted.
Of course, this is just me coveting things that we're unlikely to see in NA for a long time.
This is indeed a thing I recognize, and basically the only upside for them tbh.
Like I said, mediocre, not worthless.
TAMADRAPurin will totally get an ultimate though.
Whenever they revive hello kitty.
One day.
Edit: These are all also the silver eggs. We've yet to get to the golds! and they seem to come out of the machine fully evolved.
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(http://i.imgur.com/4MjaH8l.jpg)
Scrub team with low levels, but it grabbed a Soup Dragon on Master.
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(http://i.imgur.com/OpznISW.jpg)
or I could just use this team. Soup dragon plus soup invade on legend.
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Edit: These are all also the silver eggs. We've yet to get to the golds! and they seem to come out of the machine fully evolved.
3 gold eggs left, i bet they will be shown today.
So what has the pattern with 2.5x skillups been on the JP server? How common are they? Should I expect this to be a thing or is it super rare?
2.5x skillup rate in Japan now replace all 2.0x skillup rate in events, but they do not replace guerilla/urgent skillup rates.
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2.5x skillup rate in Japan now replace all 2.0x skillup rate in events, but they do not replace guerilla/urgent skillup rates.
Oh cool. So we're not going to have to go way out of our way to plan for them. Straight-up buff to the most annoying part of the game is good.
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Oh god why is this so addicting? It's like Candy Crush, but with better graphics and optional IAPs. Why aren't there TV commercials about this?!
Also, very mediocre pull from the machine
EDIT: removed images since they are no longer relevant
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Oh god why is this so addicting? It's like Candy Crush, but with better graphics and optional IAPs. Why aren't there TV commercials about this?!
You should re-roll.
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I probably will, as I've only been playing this for no more than 2 hours...
I'll see what I can get. Other than the ones mentioned in the OP, are there any other good monsters?
Addendum: it appears that you can force a fresh start without re-downloading all the game data by deleting all the .bin files from /data/data/jp.gungho.padEN/files, leaving the mon2 folder in place. Hopefully this should help those who don't want to waste data downloading the same data each time.
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Osiris and Hathor if you consider yourself good at the game. Anything that says match 4 specific colours deal 5x. DQXQ. Set is okay too. OP mentions Kali but I would only say keep Light unless you feel lucky to roll a proper leader.
I'm taking your question as purely first roll. Basically anything that comes from the bowels of the gold dragon you should keep and not feed away.
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Chinese gods (Byakko, Leilan, Meimei, Karin, and I guess Sakuya) are A+ pulls for new players. They may not be the latest flavor of the month, but they will absolutely carry you to endgame content and give you plenty of opportunities to get more stuff.
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"Great starters include any of the Chinese Gods, Ares, Bastet, Isis (<3), Idunn & Idunna, Lu Bu, Zhuge Liang, Odin, Kali, Shiva, Sonia, and many others. Feel free to ask!"
Not too confident on Ares or I&I. Odin depends on which color he is.
Within the Greco-Roman pantheon (Minerva, Neptune, Ceres, Venus, Hades) you'll find -incredible- monsters for late game but awful for early game.
Greek 2 (Ares, Hermes, Artemis, Apollo, Persephone) are solid all around up to mid-game, where they lose viability as leaders but become fantastic subs.
Egyptian 1 (Horus, Isis, Bastet, Ra, Anubis) are the original combo/rainbow leads. With the exception of Anubis, you're basically guaranteed good output at any given time if your skills are good.
Egyptian 2 (Set, Nut, Osiris, Hathor, Nephthys) are tankier versions of Egyptian 1. They're all good and generally have good active skills, but have a lower base attack multiplier than Egypt 1.
Indian 1 (Shiva, Lakshmi, Parvati, Indra, Vritra) all do different things. Shiva, Lakshmi, and Parvati are all solid mono-color leads. Indra is a great sub, but nobody really cares for Vritra.
Indian 2 (Krishna, Sarasvati, Vishnu, Ganesha, Durga) are also interesting. Krishna and Sarasvati have super high output when you have enough orbchangers - Vishnu is super reliable and hits about equally with just four green orbs. Ganesha is alright as a sub, and Durga is a pretty sweet 5x leader if you can proc her reliably.
Chinese (Leilan, Karin, Meimei, Haku, Sakuya) are simultaneously great leaders and great subs (bar Sakuya, but she's generally a stronger leader to compensate). Definite keepers.
3K (Cao Cao, Sun Quan, Liu Bei, DQXQ, Lu Bu) all do pretty different things. With the exception of Cao Cao, you'll get a lot of mileage out of them as both leaders and subs, I think.
Norse (Freyr, Idunn&Idunna, Freyja, Thor, Loki) are alright, but they need super specific type-based subs to be good leaders. Generally really good subs themselves, though.
Japanese 1 (Hinokagutsuchi, Orochi, Susano, Amaterasu, Yomi) are generally good subs all around. They don't become good leader materials until late game.
Japanese 2 (Amenouzume, Umisachi&Yamasachi, Kushinadahime, Izanagi, Okuninushi) are all pretty good leaders. Kushi and Izanagi are amongst the most coveted subs.
Heroes (Yamato Takeru, Andromeda, Perseus, Sun Wukong, Pandora) need a lot of orb support, but their potential damage is crazy. I would prefer to start with something more stable, though.
I don't recommend starting with any Archangels (Uriel, Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, Lucifer) because they're super slow leaders at first but they generally make awesome subs.
Nor do I recommend any Archdemons (Belial, Amon, Astaroth, Baal, Lucifer) to start. They're mostly sub material (really good sub material) but only Fallen Angel Lucifer sees a lot of leader usage.
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I'll see what I can get. Other than the ones mentioned in the OP, are there any other good monsters?
General rule of thumb: Only gold egg-tier things will last you the longest amount of time in terms of usability as a leader. However, the catch is not all of them are good. I guess reroll and either post here what you got or pop into the IRC channel, there's probably enough general knowledge that any one person can tell you what's decent to keep.
@O4rfish: Hello, I am the aforementioned. Do you need me to free a friend slot so you can use my Leilan? Though I dunno how much use i'll be to you since my rank means you'll only see me for an hour tops. (They really need to fix this. And I don't mean that best friends bullshit. That is half-assed.)
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https://www.padherder.com/user/astalotte/monsters/ <-- I finally got PADLISTENER to work so you can now see my box in all its splendor :^)
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Thanks Chirei, but I don't think I'd be able to make use of her.
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That's alright. I figured i'd just make sure!
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gungho heard me talking shit about new sb
oh my god that red angel i'm sorry gungho please, mercy
<BunnyDragonJesus> she just
<BunnyDragonJesus> mugged verdandi
<BunnyDragonJesus> stole all her shit
<BunnyDragonJesus> passed leilan and whispered a warning in her ear
<BunnyDragonJesus> and walked all the way home
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Ronia skillmaxed at long last. Where the hell has 2.5x skillup rate been all this time?
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Cao Cao uvo (1?) (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/581367575143055360)
Most likely this one is R/D
EDIT:
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/581380756611584000
YamaP being coy as usual and trying to hide the fact he's seen Awoken Ra.
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Hera 0/9 (╯?□?)╯︵ ┻━┻
so much for 2.5 skillup rate
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Awoken Bastet
New Stats: 3560 HP/1357 ATK/455 RCV
New LS: 5x Combo = x3.0, 6 Combo = x3.5, 7 Combo = x4.0 - When skill is activated on the turn, ATK x1.5
New AS: 3 turns of all targets Attack, 1 turn of time extend for 2 sec 5 cooldown
Awoken Ra
L/R Devil/God
Stats: 4355 HP/1300 ATK/366 RCV
New AS: Sunburst Knuckle - Deals 77777 dmg to all enemies, ignores DEF. For 1 turns extend time to match orbs for 3 sec
New LS: When matching all 5 colors, ATK x5. When a skill is activated on the turn, ATK x2 for God and Devil types
New Awakenings: Unbindable (Bind Resist x2) + Skill Block Resist + Jammer Resist + 2x Skill Boost + Light Orb Enhance + Time Extend
Awoken Horus
R/D Devil/God
Stats: 3375 HP/1324 ATK/570 RCV
New AS: Reversal Flame - Enhance all the Fire orbs, for 1 turn extend time to match orbs for 1 sec
New LS: When matching 4 colors, ATK x4. When matching 5 colors, ATK x4.5. When a skill is activated on the turn, ATK x1.5 for God types
New Awakenings: 2x Red Orb Enhance + 2x Skill Boost + 2x Skill Block Resist + Time Extend + TPA
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Oh good, 2.5x skillups are out. Time to use all of the materials I've been saving.
0/11.
Seriously, like genuinely, fuck this game.
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Holy fucking shit, Ra.
I like how you have to build actual subtype teams for horus and ra but bastet gets a free pass.
That's...pretty meanspirited, really.
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Holy fucking shit, Ra.
I like how you have to build actual subtype teams for horus and ra but bastet gets a free pass.
That's...pretty meanspirited, really.
Multiplier cap of Ra: x100
Multiplier cap of Horus: x45.56
Multiplier cap of Bastet: x36
:V :V :V
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Holy fucking shit, Ra.
I like how you have to build actual subtype teams for horus and ra but bastet gets a free pass.
That's...pretty meanspirited, really.
I guess their reasoning is because Horus and Ra are rainbow leaders so restricting their colors would be kind of stupid, while bastet gets the free pass because she's a combo leader.
As for my opinion on the new Horus I am... I guess you could say underwhelmed? The art is kind of really meh, tbh. He lost a lot of attack (600-ish, which hurts) although he did gain a fuckton of RCV to compensate (THANK YOU). His awakenings are fucking amazing in every possible way shape and form. I don't even care that he has fire orb enhances.
No, my problem really is just his typing, Devil/God is a combination of the two best typings in the game although his leader skill restricting him to just Gods makes him lose more than half of the potential versatility, plus, he's not attacker anymore which kills GZL as a 100% optimal sub (although fortunately it doesn't kill my dream team, I just need to find someone to replace GZL).
I would be a very happy man if they gave him god/devil on his leader skill, then he would probably be one of the best leaders in the game.
I mean, overall this is actually a really great Awoken Horus and I'm pleased they decided to drop the heart shenanigans entirely, unfortunately I'm just kind of underwhelmed.
Plus, Horus is still the only Egyptian god that doesn't benefit from hearts in any way, shape or form.
gungho please ;_;
@Edit
Quick math indicates that Awoken Horus's Weighted stats are the 27th highest in the game, just below uvo LKali, just above uvo Goemon, at 792,3 Weighted. (Actually 26th if you go check but Awoken Ra pushes him one spot below so :V)
Bastet has 779,6 Weighted and Ra has 817,5 Weighted. Putting them at the 37th (just below non-uvo LMeta, just above B/B Isis) and 9th (Just below non-uvo GOdin, just above War Dragon Nobunaga) highest spots, respectively.
holyshit ra
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twitter thinks YamaP just hates Horus
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twitter thinks YamaP just hates Horus
tbh the only way for them to not think that would be a "x5 when matching 4 colors, +0,5 per extra color, includes hearts" sort of leader skill.
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(new sheet)
Holy. Crap.
THAT is how you make use of the "skill activated on turn" abilities. This is the power I was originally expecting from them. I approve!
Holy fucking shit, Ra.
I like how you have to build actual subtype teams for horus and ra but bastet gets a free pass.
That's...pretty meanspirited, really.
EDIT: No she does not. It is 1.5x to wood cards only when a skill is used.
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...reroll and either post here what you got or pop into the IRC channel, there's probably enough general knowledge that any one person can tell you what's decent to keep.
Several roll-delete cycles later and I still haven't gotten anything good. I'll keep trying after classes today.
The best I got was a "very rare" 4-star monster.
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Just watched my roommate feed 11 Mitsuki skillups during the 2.5x event and get one skillup. So our combined record, and the entire sample size I have, is 1/22. On an alleged 25% chance.
Fuck. This.
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If you don't mind waiting a few days, there's bound to be a Godfest at the end of the month. The odds of getting a good roll in the selected pantheons increase quite a bit so it might be worth saving yourself the hassle. Plus there's a handful of guys that only show up during Godfests that would be good for a beginner, such as Red Sonia (you can rofl your way through the game just ask Edible :V) and the Norns Verdandi, Urd and Skuld, who also have the benefit of having fantastic art IMO. Green Odin too would let you cheeseball your way through content to get you a more pewpew team.
Also Ares is a starter roll for cool kids and who doesn't want to be a cool kid :colbert:
(no there's a lot better choices now than when I started so you don't have to resist/tank your way through early descends as much as it pains me to say)
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I don't actually think rerolling is that necessary, especially if waiting for a godfest means missing a few days of free event stones. Collect some stones, do a few different rolls on the godfest, and you should be fine. Unless is turns out to be an archangel/archdemon/greek fest and drops only subs, but thrn waiting isn't going to help anyway.
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Okay they made Awoken Ra rad as hell.
What I'm wondering is if the leader skill stacks. If it gets x2 when a skill is used, does that mean it gets x4 when two Ra leaders are used? What if the active skill used is Izanagi, Muse, or Lu Bu? Because if so you just skyrocketed from 50x to 100x to x200 - x250, depending how you laid your team out.
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What I'm wondering is if the leader skill stacks. If it gets x2 when a skill is used, does that mean it gets x4 when two Ra leaders are used? What if the active skill used is Izanagi, Muse, or Lu Bu? Because if so you just skyrocketed from 50x to 100x to x200 - x250, depending how you laid your team out.
yes. it is exactly the same as stuff like Valkitty
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(http://i.imgur.com/GELZDbO.jpg)
Orochi's been dreaming of this day.
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Holy crap, Ra just blew everything AWAY there, didnt he?
Also re: Matsypic
The...the horror if you HADN'T had Orochi though. My brain broke a little til I saw him and your statement mentioning him.
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Times like this make me appreciate Gabriel even more. He will ruin all Piis.
Speaking of: Gabriel plus PAD Academy?
Give me Gabriel Sensei please.
I don't know if I could handle that.
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Holy crap, Ra just blew everything AWAY there, didnt he?
Also re: Matsypic
The...the horror if you HADN'T had Orochi though. My brain broke a little til I saw him and your statement mentioning him.
It would have been instant death, yes. I was able to tank a set of 3 pys the round before, but with my current health the three at the ready would have killed me. So Orochi saved me there, for sure.
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Ok Gungho good job I'm satisfied with this bastet.
She lost her row for a second poison resist so double leads give you 80% poison resist like Neptune.
Stats are AMAZING.
Active looks pointless but then you realize you have to do 7c with TPA honestly you'll only barely manage to do it consistently even with double fingers on both leads, 2 sec makes it safer on the turn it matters.
Leader skill is wow. They made Egypt the representative of raw power again. Every skill you use is now a type/element enhance.
They're still not good subs but wow they have always been like that and those awakening man they did everything right.
Good job Gungho
Hype
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PAD Academy?
How to get me to use money on this game:
Step 1)
(http://i.imgur.com/rqQIxGz.jpg)
there is no step 2
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Excuse me while I wipe my nose a bit. A+ application of ZR, quite.
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No, no, we need Gabriel cosplaying Mikisugi from Kill La Kill (picture the uvo...).
Or I guess I would take Hera-Is Sensei sitting on a desk with a frozen apple. Generic schoolgirls are the coward's way out!
Also, gym class Odin
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Okay that's much better.
Bastet looks great now. She gets her old playstyle back and synergy with all wood subs has returned. Her not so useful row has been changed to another sorta useful poison resist.
Her active still kind of sucks but whatever it's on a low cooldown and basically exists to active her leader skill when you have nothing else to use.
Although she's still not an attacker, GZL+Liu Bei combo still works and does wonders since you have Liu hitting with triple TPA plus x36 from leader skill on top of GZL x2 boost which I'm pretty sure can one hit anything.
Pretty much better than the original in every way. The only thing she trades is 4.5x at 8 combo and the tiny 1.15x boost, yeah none of those will be missed when you can now hit x6.
Ra got a nice revamp of his awakenings and his new leader skill is crazy. Basically free 100x with every Kali active oh baby. Downside is you don't have reliable damage off random boards. Still with max skilled/awoken Ras and Kalis you can have everything up turn 1. Another downside is with Kali and Dkalis stacks you need one B/G sub. I guess Muse could take that spot and give you a silly 250x :V. It would make more sense though to have something with a low cooldown + utility though... so I guess Isis :V
Really though you can use almost anything since he boosts both Gods and Devils.
Overall it's a bit of a tradeoff vs Light Ra since you don't have consistent damage without good actives, but if you have a ton of Kalis just sitting around then there's no question to go for this guy.
Horus also got much better awakenings but is a bit more shafted in other respects. Active is still lol orb enhance although I guess it has synergy with his awakenings. He has pretty much perfect synergy with RValk who is a god, covers light, and converts heart orbs to fire. Other than that uh you gotta cover B/G so again Muse/Isis :V
Still he's way better than regular Horus, since you're only losing 5x at 5 atts and his base attack, and in return you get better awakenings, sorta better active, better RCV, and a leader skill that hits for almost as hard as Juggler's. And I guess you have to build gods but I'm pretty sure all of his optimal subs are god types so eh.
Hopefully Isis still can uses Hearts to count towards her combos to differentiate her from Horus. Otherwise x3 for 3 atts, 3.5x for 4 atts, 4x for 5 atts still sounds like a worse Horus.
Also please make her active bind heal + timeup and not HP heal + timeup. I know they want to keep their original abilities but seriously that Bind heal means so much for Isis now.
Although I guess even if they made it a useless heal, you can just use it for boosting purposes and with just Nut+Reine you have the x1.5 boost up 100% of the time.
Then you just need to cover Dark and Red, which can be handled with DKali or Bodin+uh... dammit Water/Fires still suck, but I guess Echidna works lol.
also dat hera
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What I'm suddenly wondering is if Ra is 5x for 5 attributes only, or can he match hearts too? Because that gives him a nice, fair balance in between his two normal ults, and the additional damage buff is just there to make him absolutely ridiculous. I'm still having trouble comprehending a fairly easy x250 with Lu Bu on the team or even x300 with King Baddie. Such damage even puts One True God Anubis to shame.
Which makes me wonder just how utterly ridiculous Anubis will be. :V
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What I'm suddenly wondering is if Ra is 5x for 5 attributes only, or can he match hearts too?
I think both him and Horus say that you must "attack" with five attributes. Since you cannot attack with hearts, I assume this is not the case. That'll probably get reserved for Isis maybe.
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I think both him and Horus say that you must "attack" with five attributes. Since you cannot attack with hearts, I assume this is not the case. That'll probably get reserved for Isis maybe.
This is correct. Otherwise Ra is way too good lol. 5/5 colours have a really bad orbtroll rate but you can stack lkalis lol.
Trance has all that. OP. do eet lol
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You can't "stack" Lkalis when you only have one :V
(or none)
So at the end of the day not having her still cripples Ra's performance, but eh.
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I have two Kalis, three Ras, and appropriate utility subs. I am ready.
Seems like one Ra lead and one Kali lead might be the way to go. Damage should be plenty and it lets you squeeze in another Kali active.
Ra/Kali/Kali/BMeta/Rose/Kali?
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I have two Kalis, three Ras, and appropriate utility subs. I am ready.
Seems like one Ra lead and one Kali lead might be the way to go. Damage should be plenty and it lets you squeeze in another Kali active.
Ra/Kali/Kali/BMeta/Rose/Kali?
Looks pretty good. If you have SQ then you could run that over Rose for the additional delay+make up for the missing second Ra damage
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Yeah, Sun Quan is pretty much an optimal Kali subs already. I figured Rose could take advantage of the fact that neither leader cares about hearts, but I don't like her that much on Kali so I don't know why I'd like her here. The extra finger from Sun Quan would be handy.
Given the option I might run Yomi over Metatron as long as Sun Quan is covering the blue attribute, but I don't have Yomi.
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If you have Isis then she can cover both B/G + heal binds if Awoken Isis turns out that way
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That would be great. Bind recovery would be handy on that team. Especially if she can manage to get a finger. Her orb enhaces would be better than Sun Quan's row, anyway.
The fact that SQ is no longer a god does matter to Ra though, doesn't it? Not sure I would let that stop me, but he does lose out on some damage.
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When you have 100+x I don't think missing out on damage matters that much.
Edit: Took down Challenge 6 with dual Beelzebub, no problems. All of DIzanami's attacks are really weak when you have both Ronia and Byakko to change all that poison stuff.
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wow
all of the highest attack water TPA cards
are all goddamn DBZ CARDS
Isis is shafted by NA :colonveeplusalpha:
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This challenge six was a lot easier than the last one, because no skillbind. Just be careful not to knock Wadatsumi too low accidentally. I got a ton of skyfalls the first time and knocked him just a hair below his death zone.
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So apparently the most optimal Awoken Horus Monored team is Awoken Horus/Femme/Rozuel/Set/Echidna/Awoken Horus which has two heartbreakers a fire enhance echidna and a heart maker for emergency situations.
Also 120% fire orb enhance :V
On the other hand the most optimal God-Horus team I could come up with is Awoken Horus/Muse/DMeta/D/L Yomi/Athena/Awoken Horus which is literally the same thing as the F/L Attacker Horus team except Muse instead of GZL lol
Are the JPs still complaining about him? Have we had any official statements from YamaP about the new awoken uvos? Because I'm pretty happy with this iteration.
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This is correct. Otherwise Ra is way too good lol. 5/5 colours have a really bad orbtroll rate but you can stack lkalis lol.
Trance has all that. OP. do eet lol
You can't Lkali every floor.
In the end of the day, you still have to play Ra.
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Well if it's a short dungeon and you have a lot of Kalis then you just have one per difficult boss and then just combo normally on the ones that won't kill you immediately :V
Also 5 color troll rate is actually only a little bit less than specific 4s like Kirin and Kali (like 61% vs 68%)
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Well if it's a short dungeon and you have a lot of Kalis then you just have one per difficult boss and then just combo normally on the ones that won't kill you immediately :V
That's usually what I do.:V
And honestly with Kali/Ra as your leaders you could probably get away with just doing Kali activates on a lot of floors. Does Ra's Valkitty power still trigger even if you don't activate his combo power?
Also 5 color troll rate is actually only a little bit less than specific 4s like Kirin and Kali (like 61% vs 68%)
Interesting. For me it usually seems like a "when it rains it pours" kind of thing as not being able to activate Kali goes. And that's usually because I did a bad job of clearing the board
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Does Ra's Valkitty power still trigger even if you don't activate his combo power?
It should
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It should
So in theory you could go like x24+ for at least part of your team without matching any green. That's pretty solid. That'll still smash plenty of midbosses.
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So in theory you could go like x24+ for at least part of your team without matching any green. That's pretty solid. That'll still smash plenty of midbosses.
You only get x12?
x6 from Kali and x2 from Ra if you use an active.
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You only get x12?
x6 from Kali and x2 from Ra if you use an active.
I was counting the extra 2.25 for double prongs, hence "x24+" and "at least part of your team" (the Kali part). Could go higher if you're also popping Sun Quan. It could be a LOT of different numbers since there are so many possible multipliers.
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Important: Hey guys, there's a Facebook contest going on right now that just involves you liking and commenting for free shit. We've already destroyed all the milestones, but we need to wreck it harder. Let's show them that NA playerbase exists. (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/1039608989401026/?type=1) (The entirety of the large text is a link.)
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I like how we've already wrecked all the milestones in literally one day.
Wonder if that means they'll make extra milestones, or did they seriously not expect us to reach 5k likes/400 comments? lol
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I like how we've already wrecked all the milestones in literally one day.
Wonder if that means they'll make extra milestones, or did they seriously not expect us to reach 5k likes/400 comments? lol
Not even one day - literally less than one fourth of a day (six hours). Also consider that we have nine days for this.
They'll probably extend the tiers. I want to see the goals destroyed dozens of times over. Tell all yo friends that play.
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I was counting the extra 2.25 for double prongs, hence "x24+" and "at least part of your team" (the Kali part). Could go higher if you're also popping Sun Quan. It could be a LOT of different numbers since there are so many possible multipliers.
you know what
considering how Ra is literally anubis tier x100 on activate, it might actually be more practical to just run 4 heart breakers lol
between his own active and 4 heart breakers you can activate the 2x 100% of the time as long as hearts exist and having different heart breakers protects you from most orbtrolls
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It's possible. And going with the bulkier ones could mean that you're more than capable of tanking hits to reset the board if shit really goes down. It's worth trying, since everybody's got them laying around anyway.
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wait angels 2 is a rem pantheon? huh for some reason i thought they were just another filler set like weapons
anyways we're getting them + egypt 1.0s this godfest so now is a good time to roll for the future OP leaders :V
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I have two Kalis, three Ras, and appropriate utility subs. I am ready.
Seems like one Ra lead and one Kali lead might be the way to go. Damage should be plenty and it lets you squeeze in another Kali active.
Ra/Kali/Kali/BMeta/Rose/Kali?
That wouldn't work; you'd have no source of dark damage.
I ALMOST no-stoned Lv6! But I choked and fucked up on DIzanami and had to blow 2 stones because I figured I'd rather get my win now instead of wasting time putting more effort into it than I wanted to (I don't even know who to give this bubpy to...), but I'm pleased I managed to do it anyway, and I gained another stone for clearing all the lower challenge dungeons, so it's a net loss of one stone. I'm okay with that.
Meanwhile I'm musing over whether or not I should pull this upcoming fest. I have zero use for any of the new angels, cute as they are, and the only Egyptian I have is Ra. I'd like to get Bastet or Isis though, so maybe...
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(http://i.imgur.com/TYfSdx9.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/7YR2N52.jpg)
:)
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That wouldn't work; you'd have no source of dark damage.
Metatron? She's black/blue.
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[11:43] <Chirei> so i was trying to do deadjumper for stones, started from the top with mythical like i normally do just to get the pressure out of the way
[11:43] <Chirei> i notice that his first attack is always "hit low, make some jammers"
[11:44] <Chirei> so i decide to do a small hit with a wood tpa, minimum 3 combo
[11:44] <Chirei> it somehow goes into 9 combo with another wood tpa and does like 80% of his lifebar
[11:44] <Chirei> >plant feast
(http://i.imgur.com/nh9twVv.png)
god bless you, girl
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Metatron? She's black/blue.
That's DMeta, you listed BMeta which is the swimsuit one.
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>head into Weekend Dungeon with Bodin
>average combo 8
Hmm, maybe I should ... :wat:
>head into Weekend Dungeon with Robin
>average combo 5
Whew, good thing I only wasted 10 stamina with that little experiment. :ohdear:
cut by -- Swimsuit Metatron?!
>only available in Pink Dragon during summer at .002 chance :smokedcheese:
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That's DMeta, you listed BMeta which is the swimsuit one.
Sorry, I keep namung cards by Magic rules, where they're black Metatron (BMeta) and blue Metatron (UMeta). I know that's confusing, it's a habit.
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Calling it black is confusing enough when B is already standard for blue here, but where on earth does U come from?
Meanwhile, still farming for + eggs. I don't know why people say floor 4 of forbidden tower is best, it's 12 stamina for 4 floors of potential drops while the top floor gives you 8 for 15. I managed to get 5 eggs in 3 rounds (the rough equivalent of one round of mechdragons).
The Exp and drops are so pathetic though orz
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Calling it black is confusing enough when B is already standard for blue here, but where on earth does U come from?
Meanwhile, still farming for + eggs. I don't know why people say floor 4 of forbidden tower is best, it's 12 stamina for 4 floors of potential drops while the top floor gives you 8 for 15. I managed to get 5 eggs in 3 rounds (the rough equivalent of one round of mechdragons).
The Exp and drops are so pathetic though orz
because no pengdoods
also I think MtG calls it U because Black is B and blUe is U
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DMeta
LMeta
Wetatron
There, problem solved :colbert:
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more like
submeta
othersubmeta
whydoiexistmeta
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trianglesbffMeta
evilMeta
becauseJapanMeta
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rowMeta
prongMeta
playwhateveryouwantanddon'tworryaboutitMeta
...actually a Metatron with prongs would be pretty neat now that I think about it.
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Finally, something decent, which means I've settled on a profile:
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Not the best starter, but it's better than anything else I've seen:
[attach=2]
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more like
submeta
othersubmeta
whydoiexistmeta
Hey now hey now
the first submeta functions just fine as a leader :colbert:
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rowMeta
prongMeta
playwhateveryouwantanddon'tworryaboutitMeta
...actually a Metatron with prongs would be pretty neat now that I think about it.
Which one is the prong Meta? From what I've seen they all do rows.
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Calling it black is confusing enough when B is already standard for blue here, but where on earth does U come from?
U is the first letter if blue that it doesn't also share with black. Blue and black are both B, so one of them has to go by another letter. It can't be L because they both share it, sonit has to be A or U. Blue shares a sound with U, so that's the most obvious.
That only really matters in Magic where they're called by colors instead of elements, but I am going to do that.
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Which one is the prong Meta? From what I've seen they all do rows.
(http://i.imgur.com/lwKy7Ct.jpg)
U is the first letter if blue that it doesn't also share with black. Blue and black are both B, so one of them has to go by another letter. It can't be L because they both share it, sonit has to be A or U. Blue shares a sound with U, so that's the most obvious.
That only really matters in Magic where they're called by colors instead of elements, but I am going to do that.
But those make absolutely no sense outside of MtG. Especially when there's already a commonly understood abbreviation system for PAD that it conflicts with.
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Calling it black is confusing enough when B is already standard for blue here, but where on earth does U come from?
Meanwhile, still farming for + eggs. I don't know why people say floor 4 of forbidden tower is best, it's 12 stamina for 4 floors of potential drops while the top floor gives you 8 for 15. I managed to get 5 eggs in 3 rounds (the rough equivalent of one round of mechdragons).
The Exp and drops are so pathetic though orz
floor 4 is only good on mondays
otherwise just farm mechdragons
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U is the first letter if blue that it doesn't also share with black. Blue and black are both B, so one of them has to go by another letter. It can't be L because they both share it, sonit has to be A or U. Blue shares a sound with U, so that's the most obvious.
That only really matters in Magic where they're called by colors instead of elements, but I am going to do that.
and also because L is Land
but anyways, we have been calling them LMeta and DMeta for quite a while now. My vote is for B(ikini)Meta.
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Hey now hey now
the first submeta functions just fine as a leader :colbert:
Subbutalsoaleadermeta is too wordy though!
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and also because L is Land
but anyways, we have been calling them LMeta and DMeta for quite a while now. My vote is for B(ikini)Meta.
I dunno, I'm throwing my suppport behind wetatron. Though yeah, I've seen a lot of BMeta.
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I finally got a skillup up Beyzul that didn't take piis. He's level five now. Approaching the point where I can actually plausibly swap back and forth during one dungeon, which substantially increases my ability to handle certain dungeons. Hopefully I can get one more before this skillup event ends just in case we don't see it again for a while.
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re: Water/Light Metatron nomenclature
I personally prefer BMeta. I don't know why, but I can't stand using Wetatron myself. Sort of like how I don't call the fire Sonia Ronia, but keep her S making her RSonia.
As long as it's easily identifiable by anyone I don't think it matters.
Re: Skillups
Well, I have to be happy about them as well since I managed to score a blue ancient mask from the special PEM and it skilled Orochi in one go, so now he's only got three more to be maxed. Getting there...
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time to s rank gold bowl
>chicken invade
>skyfalls
>taste stinger
lets try that again
>chicken invade
>skyfalls
>taste stinger
this is utter bullshit
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be like me
use beelzebub
facetank taste stinger
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just died on the first floor now due to failing okuni twice in a row
i hate this dungeon
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Are the JPs still complaining about him? Have we had any official statements from YamaP about the new awoken uvos? Because I'm pretty happy with this iteration.
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/581735521946222592
"I was very shocked when a 2 year old kid ran past me screaming 'tema~ tema~'"
R O F L M A O
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(http://i.imgur.com/Z0fgMEo.png)
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES
GOT NOWHERE TO RUN
THE NIGHT GOES ON
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(http://i.imgur.com/Z0fgMEo.png)
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES
GOT NOWHERE TO RUN
THE NIGHT GOES ON
CUT ISIS INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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(http://i.imgur.com/Z0fgMEo.png)
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES
GOT NOWHERE TO RUN
THE NIGHT GOES ON
Apparently the game thinks you don't know how to level up at your point in the game. Are all of yours guys level one? They must be, that must be the problem or the game wouldn't say that.
Keep fusing your monsters to make them stronger!
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(http://i.imgur.com/Z0fgMEo.png)
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
I MADE MY MISTAKES
GOT NOWHERE TO RUN
THE NIGHT GOES ON
(http://i.imgur.com/Bz2AlO0.jpg)
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Meanwhile, I took on Ultimate God Rush. (http://imgur.com/1Q49U05)
That was fun. Despite no-stoning, I only got 22,000 points so I'll have to go at it again eventually.
I got Athena, Beelzebub, and Super Zeus to drop, which is awesome because I've been too lazy to level up regular Zeus to evolve him.
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Meanwhile, I took on Ultimate God Rush. (http://imgur.com/1Q49U05)
That was fun. Despite no-stoning, I only got 22,000 points so I'll have to go at it again eventually.
I got Athena, Beelzebub, and Super Zeus to drop, which is awesome because I've been too lazy to level up regular Zeus to evolve him.
Congrats!! Dat hp so high lol tanks Dios' pre-empt like nothing
Yea the drops are nice
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Thanks! The scariest part was fighting Beelzebub and his monster tank HP, but my 40% poison resist proc'd four times at least.
Humorously, his 40%< GTFO attack was completely blocked as well, so I didn't immediately have to pop Byakko+CDD. Also, the chance of an EXTREEEEEME metal king would have completely wrecked me.
Not sure if I can do the other Rushes without switching to BeelzeSonia but who the hell wants to do that
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So far I've got another day of 0/11 skillups on 2.5x chances. I have gotten a single skillup on anything out of this entire event so far, after doing literally nothing but grinding for skillups for the entire duration as well as the several days before. My rates so far have been much worse than if I had been fusing during 0x skillups.
Edit: Well, I guess I did do challenges one through six, so not 100% of my stamina has gone to farming. But the stamina I spend on challenge dungeons got me exactly as many skillups as my many days of farming, so I guess that's a pretty clear sign that this is a waste of my time.
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It's true that even with skillup boosts, the way this game handles skillups is horseshit.
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The way I see it is this:
Even if the skillup rate was as high as 10% without boost (I have no damn idea what it's supposed to be and I'm being generously high with estimated success rates), it's still terrible. Even if the skillup rate is, logically, 25% on a 2.5x boost, it's still a 1/4 chance, and with the time and effort it takes to get skillup mats in the first place, as well as the fact that some mats need to be evolved first beforehand, it's still shit.
So really I feel it's completely random and the multiplier is an illusion, really.
Let me remind you that I went 0/20 on one Ronia skillup on x2 rates and today I went 2/2 on Orochi skillups. ???
This is why I've grown enamored with hunting +eggs instead recently, because there is a definite, tangible, visible boost when I fuse them, and it's a 100% chance of benefit when I do so. It just feels more rewarding than endlessly pursuing skillups only to be disappointed. It's also the reason why I've taken Parvati from 0 to +130 in the span of about two weeks. :V
As far as skillups go, you may as well just farm for pys instead, you'll probably end up with relatively similar rates anyway. At least they're universal for their respective attributes and able to be collected at any time, not during any short event. :colbert:
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I'm really glad that my current primary team is all skill maxed already. Moreover, I'm glad that Ceres and Beelzebub -don't- have farmable skillup fodder, and that I can have no worries about having dumped my pys on them.
Persephone is obviously going to have to be skilled up just once more when 8 minimum CD hits, but we have both Gleaming Dragon and Super Metal Kings to do so. That's incredibly easy so who gives a digit?
Just gotta find three more + attack eggs...
Edit: rank 380+ problems when you have a level 50 snowglobe but nobody to give it to
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At some point they've got to overhaul skillup mechanics, right? They've already kind of done it with the 2.5x rates and piis, so I'm hoping eventually they just swap it over to a skill experience system. It takes 100 points to rank up a skill, and monsters are worth different amount of skill experience depending on how hard to get they are. Not making it RNG based theoretically makes people whale less I guess, but I think piis already tanked that if it was ever even a thing.
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Being completely honest that's probably wishful thinking, at best, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of whales out there that spend a lot of money to get these skillup mats and Gungho just swims in money because of them.
Unless people start revolting against the system en masse (which I doubt people will do especially with Piis being a thing now) GungHo is probably going to keep the current system.
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Have you ever known someone to spend a substantial amount of money on skillups? It probably happens, I'm sure it does, but I've never personally seen it and I have seen one person straight-up quit the game because they thought the skillup mechanics were too unfair to keep playing. It's a tradeoff and I have no idea which end is better, and I suspect neither does Gungho. And in that case I guess status quo is fine unless they're forced to change because of industry standards and/or desperation.
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Have you ever known someone to spend a substantial amount of money on skillups?
Yes.
Also, generally, we wouldn't matter as long as jp does do it.
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just wait for awokens and then use piis :derp:
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so umm it might just be because birds but I keep getting Pet Shop (http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Pet_Shop?file=Petshop4.png) vibes from Awoken Horus.
What stand does Pet Shop have? Horus
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So I ran fatty a few times.
[23:35:42] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Pandora 90 -> MAX happened
[23:35:54] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I guess I should list everyone I need to level and prioritize from there
[23:47:21] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> okay here's everything that needs leveling that I wanna use at some point
[23:47:35] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> or at the very least, are important enough for me to want in the near future
[23:47:36] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> http://pastebin.com/kjmAyDSy
[23:48:29] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I just need to figure out who to focus on meanwhile
[23:48:46] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Parvati is not high priority because she gets plenty of exp just from the +egg feed
[23:49:09] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Hades doesn't NEED those last four levels anytime soon, it's not like they'll make that much of a difference
[23:49:25] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Apollo/Rose/Verche being buff would be nice because I use them a lot
[23:49:48] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Reine/UmiYama/Orochi are my SkuldScrubs who need exp too
[23:50:26] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Lu Bu/Persephone/Haku are all dark devils who work with ronia AND ult pandora so they're important but not right NOW
[23:50:33] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> same for vamp
[23:50:45] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Hanzo would be easy because ninjas are just 3mils
[23:51:00] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> oh, they're 4 what
[23:51:01] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> nm
[23:51:05] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> finn is 3 though iirc
[23:52:04] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Michael/Susano/Golem/LiuBei are all parvati team stuff and we probably won't have her until like fucking september so hm.
[23:53:51] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I really wanna use ult LKali when she comes out since she'll be my Kirin replacement and also important for Awoken Ra
[23:54:38] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I should probably focus on Lu Bu/Haku/Percy/Hanzo since ult Pandora will be here sooner than most.
[23:54:42] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> That sounds good.
[23:57:17] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Lu Bu 67 -> 90
[23:58:53] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Percy 21 -> 92 god bless Noir
[00:01:54] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> LKali 71 -> 77
and Pandora 90 -> MAX.
Looks like I had a bit of a dark bias despite building my green dudes up really hard lately, but there just isn't much I can do with them until they're evolved <_<;
Meanwhile Ult Pandora should becoming here Soon(tm) (who am I kidding it's almost april and we don't even have sonia gran yet), so getting Percy and Lu Bu buff was a good move, I think. And I wanna be able to use Ult LKali when she comes out (especially since she'll be an ace Awoken Ra sub even though I've done NOTHING with my Ra(s)), so...
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Have you ever known someone to spend a substantial amount of money on skillups?
me, as in i fund gungho
just wait for awokens and then use piis :derp:
speaking of awokens...
Awoken Ra
Awoken Sphinx + Awoken Sopdet + Keeper of Gold + Keeper of Gold + Light Jewel
Awoken Horus
Awoken Sphinx + Awoken Thoth + Devilit + Devilit + Flame Jewel
Awoken Bastet
Awoken Sphinx + Guardian of Dark Riches, Medjed + Ancient Sacred Green Mask + Ancient Sacred Green Mask + Wood Jewel
Pure Light Sun Deity Ra buff
100% Bind Resist
When matching 5 colors and Hearts, ATK x8 (from x7) to all attributes
source: http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150330_sinka.html
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>Wake up before alarm goes off, decide to do Pulseneedle Mythical before school for the last stone
Me: Okay, let's try to oneshot him this time
>Use 7s+GZL+Athena, somehow only do 90%
>Honey Honey Bind
>Both Leilans and Liu Bei get hit with 3 turns of bind
>Alraune RESISTS
P&D XX WAITING FOR AWOKEN ALRAUNE EDITION WHERE
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3/3 on takeru so far.
I swear to me if I end up maxing him before using even half of the fairies I got, I'll....be very cross. :v
also, no green demon masks trying for them when just progressing in jp pad gave me like 20
desire sensor is real and he's not my friend
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What is even the point of using the Ra ults now when the Awoken form is infinitely superior rofl
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Well I would make the argument that L/L has the fallback x4 along with the optimal x8 and Awoken Ra only has up to x5 unless using an active (so better for finishing off a boss, worse for dungeons with multiple tough minibosses unless you have multiple short cd actives which admittedly you should have).
Then there's the problem of every new descend boss having a Resolve effect which means that having one insane burst isn't what you're going to want.
Although I guess Awoken Ra just completely killed off L/D Ra since the best reson to use L/D was on no-rcv dungeons. So much for the x7 buff.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Qcq0sgol.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Qcq0sgo.jpg)
It begins.
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Well I would make the argument that L/L has the fallback x4 along with the optimal x8 and Awoken Ra only has up to x5 unless using an active (so better for finishing off a boss, worse for dungeons with multiple tough minibosses unless you have multiple short cd actives which admittedly you should have).
Then there's the problem of every new descend boss having a Resolve effect which means that having one insane burst isn't what you're going to want.
Although I guess Awoken Ra just completely killed off L/D Ra since the best reson to use L/D was on no-rcv dungeons. So much for the x7 buff.
Ra's 49x sucks. It gets outdamaged by things like Kirin and UmiYama who're far less work. He's not going to worry about oneshotting resolve people.
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+egg farming is going okay today. Up to 17 so far. Three Mechdragons runs dropped jack shit once again, but I think I'm slightly over 1/1 from DoLaS. Sun Quan is rapidly rising through the +ranks.
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I wonder.
What equivalent phrase does Japan use for "hypermax"?
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I wonder.
What equivalent phrase does Japan use for "hypermax"?
"normal"
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:getdown:
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On a whim, I decided to start a JP account so I have something to do while stamina refreshes and I can't really do anything else.
I am about to suffer the woes of rerolling, something I never had to when I started out (Egyptian Godfest OP)
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I make a jp account occasionally for fun to see what rerolls turn up while I'm watching a movie or whatever.
My current one has an avalon drake :v
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well I've scrambled enough eggs for two rolls tomorrow
I really want another Egyptian v1 but I -really- want a Metatron as well. Couldn't really care for Odins being higher in day 1...
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all i want for christmas is a bodin
pls
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Absorbs damages over 200,000 over 999 turns [Pre-emptive strike]
SO IT BEGINS
THE RETURN OF THE FALLEN ONE
but yeah now we know how gungho plans on handling power creep :V
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but yeah now we know how gungho plans on handling power creep :V
Revenge of the Beelzebub sustained damage!
totes fine by me
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hahahaha :getdown:
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I wonder.
What equivalent phrase does Japan use for "hypermax"?
serious answer, the use "H"
but yeah now we know how gungho plans on handling power creep :V
well i guess I'm rolling out the Urd team because using LKali is out of the question :colonveeplusalpha:
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SO IT BEGINS
THE RETURN OF THE FALLEN ONE
but yeah now we know how gungho plans on handling power creep :V
...that's actually a pretty low bar too, I could probably break that on verdandi without trying. That doesn't sound fun. :T
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4/2/2 SHALL LIVE AGAIN
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...that's actually a pretty low bar too, I could probably break that on verdandi without trying. That doesn't sound fun. :T
only if you use tpa
don't use tpa and you'll be fine; I run Urd enough to know that my individual 3 matches don't even break 100k lol
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only if you use tpa
don't use tpa and you'll be fine; I run Urd enough to know that my individual 3 matches don't even break 100k lol
This is true.
My point kinda stands this is a shitty mechanic though :T
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It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for that fact that it puts you at the mercy of skyfalls.
Like having to calculate your own damage and try to control it as a strategy is cool. Having that strategy get torn apart by a skyfall is not.
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This is true.
My point kinda stands this is a shitty mechanic though :T
yeah i'm not arguing that it's a shitty mechanic. admittedly it's not as bad in Legend difficulty where Sopdet only has 830k hp but did you not notice
>Thoth
>Pre-emptively increases the cooldown of active skills by 5 turns
It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for that fact that it puts you at the mercy of skyfalls.
Like having to calculate your own damage and try to control it as a strategy is cool. Having that strategy get torn apart by a skyfall is not.
OK let's assume you run a Hathor team of x20.25, it is minimum of 5 combo, with 1 light match. And then you get really unlucky with skyfalls. You would still need 5 extra skyfalls to break 200k if none of those skyfalls were a light combo. Youd have to be super un?lucky for that to happen
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The mechanics wouldn't be nearly as annoying if it was just simply blocking the damage rather than absorb.
If the leak is to be trusted Sopdet is a countdown boss so, instead of having to start over again since I healed sopdet to full thanks to skyfalls, simply having that one turn invalidated wouldn't be as annoying.
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That mechanic makes row and TPA teams utterly useless.
I guess stall teams are back in vogue?
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At the same time that means it's impossible to stall on him. Plus he has 1.5 mil hp it's impossible to kill him in 1 turn unless you get the absolute perfect combo that deals 199k with every attack and subtype attack.
So basically you have to hack him down
without dealing too much damage each turn
in a limited number of turns
and you can't make a single mistake since a single absorb will very likely heal him to full
That mechanic makes row and TPA teams utterly useless.
I guess stall teams are back in vogue?
It's not like you can stall either cause he hits for 280k after 3 turns (sorry beelz you aint tanking this one)
so yeah you have to deal around 100k per sub every turn
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It's not like you can stall either cause he hits for 280k after 3 turns (sorry beelz you aint tanking this one)
Noah.
:fail:
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This is starting to sounds more like a math problem than a game to beat that sucker ???
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I wonder if gravities are affected by Sopdet's shield, because if not you could find a spot for, say, Santa Hera (assuming she's skilled up, otherwise you're stalling on minotaurs for a while) on Ame no Uzume, or Sakuya on applicable teams there, etc., and then when you get to Sopdet just cut her HP down to a more manageable amount.
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This is starting to sounds more like a math problem than a game to beat that sucker ???
Warning: If you do weakness damage to Sopdet it will most likely to heal her.
I had gotten Sopdet to her Dark portion, and my Hathor leads had base, 190k damage due to skyfall.
She healed 380K+ HP T___T ALMOST FULL HEALED HER
then she killed me
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(http://i.imgur.com/cKoED7v.png)(http://i.imgur.com/pliTwo3.png)(http://i.imgur.com/XN8gE0S.png)
GET REKT SPHINX DESCENDED
AWOKEN BASTET ACQUIRED
WILD CATS WOOOOoooo CAT FEVERRrrrrrrrr
Warning: If you do weakness damage to Sopdet it will most likely to heal her.
I had gotten Sopdet to her Dark portion, and my Hathor leads had base, 190k damage due to skyfall.
She healed 380K+ HP T___T ALMOST FULL HEALED HER
then she killed me
I used I&I team, and I killed sopdet by I&I and Reine's light sub-element. :v
Unless you use things over 16x this is not that annoying, still, I agree it's a stupid mechanic though.
For example, I&I's 9x I can safely do a row and still only deal around 100k per monster, and you have 4 turns to kill sopdet.
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Well that was fast
Show us how much damage she can do :V
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Sopdet's first 50% of HP is Light, so Beelzebub's initial max damage is <100,000.
With one row (orb enhanced) and three other combos, Beelzebub hits for exactly 98938, while everyone else is obviously below the threshold.
Calculating everyone's dark damage together and *2 for versus light, this hits Sopdet fresh for 900,000 HP (http://imgur.com/DYtTHjO)
Which leaves two turns to nonchalantly deal 600,000 damage when Beelzebub can finally go above 100,000 again.
I probably won't be using Ronia (was just using her for turn one Persephone or Byakko in Endless Corridors), so I'll lose 10% damage from the row enhance. I might be able to fit in another combo without going over in that case.
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Well that was fast
Show us how much damage she can do :V
[11:46:04] <Thaws> oh man
[11:46:06] <Thaws> this power
[11:46:11] <Thaws> 7combo 2 green TPA
[11:46:15] <Thaws> liu bei did 1.7mil
[11:46:18] <Thaws> fatty is nothing to me now
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oh dear
using Ceres instead of Ronia, I still can't hit five combos without going over. Still a hefty first turn to get rid of the most wildly fluctuating part of the HP bar.
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Wow the new anti skill boost mechanic kind of makes skill lock resist point less
Rip chester and Horus
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Wow the new anti skill boost mechanic kind of makes skill lock resist point less
Rip chester and Horus
I'm not really sure why you think that.
I mean, like. Skill lock is still a -thing- and is also a staple of one of the more important dungeons in the game so :v
They can also still whip out 99 skill bind resists forever because fuck you if needed. And probably will. Especially with awoken egypts, really.
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Yeah I guess but it does make it an even more situational awakening if they start using antiskill more often
In b4 99 turn anti skillboost
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[00:00:03] <Thaws> btw I think it's confirmed
[00:00:06] <Thaws> she can absorb grav
[00:00:10] <Thaws> if it deals over 200k
[00:00:10] <Thaws> rip
[00:00:12] <~rdj522> D:
[00:00:47] <~rdj522> Surprised it took this long for them to make a gravity-proof boss if true.
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If you run Norns, Sphinx Descended is pretty easy, even if you mess up a lot like I did on Mythical.
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Well that was fast
Show us how much damage she can do :V
Challenge 11 Lv9 cleared with Awoken Bastet on first try
Wrecking through those >6mil hp dragons like nothing
I recorded it. Too lazy to do editting, thinking time is much shorter than before because dem finger awakenings.
Vid here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9D6qWRQ_U
God tears OP dat blue skyfall at threedia (http://youtu.be/Xd9D6qWRQ_U?t=430)
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lol welp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji12-oJGddc)
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So godfest was a thing. Was hoping for Bastet or Isis for realistic rolls; Verdandi, Lakshmi, or dupe LKali for longshot rolls.
Roll #1: pre-evo'd Ariel
Roll #2: Thanatos
Roll #3: Lilith
[03:19:14] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> so I was all "man I don't even want any egypt2s anyway, I want bastet"
[03:19:25] <trance|work> did u get bastet
[03:19:28] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> >roll one more time since I have reward stones coming in anyway
[03:19:30] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> no
[03:19:34] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> >dupe ROdin
Roll #4: dupe ROdin
:V :V :V
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lol welp (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji12-oJGddc)
suikama tomorrow is egyptian 1.0 and egyptian 2.0 in godfes part 2
pls bless me with your isis powers i really want an isis she is purrty and her awoken evo might be fuckin awesome
requesting suecomma blessings
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Absorbs damages over 200,000 over 999 turns [Pre-emptive strike]
(This is a 7star.)
(http://i.imgur.com/qo2uxuC.png) (http://i.imgur.com/z2Yq1gp.png)
Are you even trying, Gungho?
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Are you even trying, Gungho?
the shield was meant to stop cookie-cutter Juggler teams and other high-spike leads, not x6.25/x9/x12.25 leads lol
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I got an Ariel as well...
Well, I've been hoping for another Attackerasu converter. Suzaku can't do literally everything.
Edit: wow lol I don't need to mono-light attacker with Ariel
if all I need to do is get Athena to hit as hard as possible while being a sub, I can use ~*~TAMADRApurin~*~ as an enhance again.
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2 rolls...
Grade Dragon... at least something that can be useful someday.
lets hope for a gold on the second... silver...
Verche... >:(
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Yoloroll Mandrake :fail:
edit: I accidentlly hit the roll again button instead of back because no coffee yet and out pops Ruel :V
Is that a good one? I missed all the hubbub when the Angels 2.0 info dropped so all I know is she isn't as cute as some of the others but I can forgive that we all can't be precious bby.
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Two rolls so far: Green Wee Jas and ... ForestBahn? Go away padx :|
I have many more rolls to make and I'm saving stones for tomorrow as well, so TUNE IN LATER.
Yoloroll Mandrake :fail:
edit: I accidentlly hit the roll again button instead of back because no coffee yet and out pops Ruel :V
Is that a good one? I missed all the hubbub when the Angels 2.0 info dropped so all I know is she isn't as cute as some of the others but I can forgive that we all can't be precious bby.
They're all good. :colbert:
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Since I already have Horus and have no real interest in the rest of the egyptian pantheon (I can barely do Horus properly let alone Ra, Bastet or Anubis.) I'll be yolorolling tomorrow.
Double points if I get a Set or a Rozuel, since they're both dream team members for a Monored Awoken Horus team. :V
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I can never roll in a carnival with Egypts again because I don't want to accidentally roll more Ras. I guess I vaguely want some Angels 2, but they're not Angels 1 (maybe they are, I haven't really looked that closely).
Got my Verdandi evolved, so now I just need a little more experience in her and Liu Bei, evolution and experience for CuChu, and a stack of Tamadras and my Verdandi team is sort of set to go. And then skillups on top of that, but that can wait until I see how I like the team. At least CuChu and GZL are skillupped so it's not like I'm starting from zero. Not looking forward to farming Dragon Fruits for the next eighteen months for Verdandi at all, so honestly I probably won't, I'll just use piis.
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OH MY GOD
Roll 1 > Bastet
Roll 2 > Liu Bei
And they're both wood-type, too.
Roll 3 > Verche (all good luck must come to an eventual end)
Sadly, the fun ends there, though I consider this a great pull!
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Grats you have joined the ranks of CATTE MASTER RACE
:toot: :toot: :toot:
Verche's got his uses too, too bad the skill up dungeon just finished up :V
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Pulled one more time because why the hell not.
Pull 5: Lumiel
Completely fucking pointless because I don't have Durga (or Kotaro so I could change the green for light for LKali). At least she is the cutest angel.
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SO GUESS WHO I JUST PULLED IN THE JP SERVER?
(http://i.imgur.com/8SvY7GQ.jpg)
I AM GOING OVER TO THE DARK SIDE
somewhere, horus is crying in a corner
(Also, what IS the current JP godfest? I'll guess it's probably forest gala but I can't even guess what the current godfest is)
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I don't see why Lumiel is pointless.
Lumiel/Byakko/CDD/xxx/xxx/Lumiel has an intense dark burst with Byakko+CDD as long as you get at least four fire orbs :V
It is basically a better Ronia because it's dark-primary and it's not a Sonia. You have other Devils like Pandora and Persephone who otherwise leave water orbs alone.
hell, you can even forgo Byakko and use Lumiel/CDD/Persephone/Pandora/Lu Bu/Lumiel
Lumiel provides orbs for Pandora and CDD to convert, so as long as you get those four fire orbs you can Lube everything up and wreck face.
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>Skuld
you're not bodin :fail:
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Pulled one more time because why the hell not.
Pull 5: Lumiel
Completely fucking pointless because I don't have Durga (or Kotaro so I could change the green for light for LKali). At least she is the cutest angel.
Forget Durga. Lead with her instead. Durga sucks :| Lumiel's a tankier Haku while not being conditional.
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as strong as awoken Ra is, Juggler still does way more damage lmao
of course Ra has an easier time clearing challenge 10 though because the extra damage isn't even useful and Ra only needs 1 active to clear each floor so you can just steamroll everything with actives, while Juggler's super combo of him + pandora is two actives so you're gonna have to stall
also juggler can't do shit to this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7crIcFLL7s)
wait no nevermind (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBwtmDCmlYU)
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I don't see why Lumiel is pointless.
Lumiel/Byakko/CDD/xxx/xxx/Lumiel has an intense dark burst with Byakko+CDD as long as you get at least four fire orbs :V
It is basically a better Ronia because it's dark-primary and it's not a Sonia. You have other Devils like Pandora and Persephone who otherwise leave water orbs alone.
hell, you can even forgo Byakko and use Lumiel/CDD/Persephone/Pandora/Lu Bu/Lumiel
Lumiel provides orbs for Pandora and CDD to convert, so as long as you get those four fire orbs you can Lube everything up and wreck face.
>better ronia
>because it's not a sonia
We get it you don't like Ronia, you can stop now :V
The problem with Lumiel is that her active is too spread out. Hell, I rarely if ever get more than 5 dark with Haku's active as it is.
Second, Pandora won't be a devil in NA until like next January as it is, so that doesn't matter at the moment.
Third, there's a severe lack of decent awakenings in there. CDD and Persephone have lousy awakenings, and Lumiel herself lacks rows or tpa to work with despite being unbindable (which is a redeeming feature for sure) . As it is you'd only be looking at 4 rows at the most right now as Haku has 2, Pandora has 1, and Lu Bu has 1. It just lacks the punching power I could get out of just using Pandora as the lead to begin with.
Forget Durga. Lead with her instead. Durga sucks :| Lumiel's a tankier Haku while not being conditional.
This I will agree with. Being tankier is never a bad thing. But I'll not bother with much until she gets an ult/Pandora and Lu Bu get theirs.
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There's only one or two non-godfest-exclusive god I even want today, so I'll only roll once or twice.
>pull
>gold egg
>Isis
>tfw I need to skill up Bubblie using my blue kings instead of feeding them to Paulina and Isis.
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I don't see an issue with Lumiel creating many orbs. I actually think it'll have a similar output to say, a light heavy Sakuya team. You don't see Sakuya needing much in the way of awoken skills to get anything done, right?
Sakuya -should- be using Apollo/Valkyrie/Verche/Arthur to generate more light orbs, but that's basically it because you can't touch RGB orbs. All in all, that x25 multiplier only means so much when you can only use half the board as your primarily element.
Lumiel might only have 14x at best, but she procs off two dark combos. As long as you have four orbs of any other color, you're basically golden to pull all the other conversions you want. Sure, Lumiel creates a weird array of colors, but Dark devils have the luxury of converting all but fire (and even then you can use Hanzo for that because he still gets x9). That's using three active skills for one huge burst, but devils tend(?) to have acceptable-beefy HP and Lumiel is boosting everyone's RCV anyways.
Hanzo is a 5 CD conversion as usual, that boosts every other member's damage because of his row
Persephone will eventually be an 8 CD double conversion and her lack of awakenings don't matter too much because she creates metric tons of dark orbs.
Panda has much more utility though a weaker active. Still one of only two green>dark devil conversions.
CDD is a last resort option, and I only use him in conjunction with Byakko.
If you really don't like Lumiel's active that much, then pair up with someone who can contribute damage more reliably (like Beelzebub :V). Admittedly, I wish it made light instead of fire so that we could field Gryps Rider in on the conversion train but what can you do?
though I definitely get the Pandora ult taking ten more months before it hits here :c
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I wouldn't even use the Angels on Durga tbh. board changers are too unreliable. If anything, I'd use them on China girls teams with orbchanger they like.
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Update on progress; cleared Hera today using a Metatron/Grodin team. I guess that's a milestone. :toot:
Pulled Ruel yesterday; will work fantastically on the (attacker ult) Astaroth team I'm building, or seperately as her own leader (current subs out of what I have available would be ult attacker Astaroth, GZL, Cursed Wyrm and King Baddie). Next up is Two Heroes, which I expect to faceroll with GZL in my D/D Luci attacker team. :V
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It looks like my Verdandi team will have six green orb enhances on it. Is there any benefit to having six, or is five the most that matters? I still don't understand orb enhance I guess.
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5 orb enhance awakenings on a team mean all orbs of that color that drop will be enhanced orbs.
Each orb enhance awakening (even 6+) grants an additional 4% damage per orb. So your Verdandi team with 6 green orb enhances will have all green skyfall (NOT orb changed) orbs be enhanced, and each enhanced green orb will do a total of +30% damage.
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(http://i.imgur.com/ug6fBq7.jpg)
Sweet, delicious victory. Though it used Ronia so it doesn't count.
Not a bad haul, even for 99 stamina. (http://imgur.com/oo3XbCm)
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5 orb enhance awakenings on a team mean all orbs of that color that drop will be enhanced orbs.
Each orb enhance awakening (even 6+) grants an additional 4% damage per orb. So your Verdandi team with 6 green orb enhances will have all green skyfall (NOT orb changed) orbs be enhanced, and each enhanced green orb will do a total of +30% damage.
Okay, cool. Thanks. So it's base 6%, +4% per orb enhance including the first one? Is that right? And how does the +30% damage work with multiple enhanced orbs in one combo? Does the bonus just apply to the bit of damage provided by that orb?
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OH MY GOD
Roll 1 > Bastet
Roll 2 > Liu Bei
How to make a OP green team:
Step 1. Get Good Green leader
Step 2. Put a Liu Bei in it.
Step 3. ???
Step 4. rekt everything
Congrats!!!
5 orb enhance awakenings on a team mean all orbs of that color that drop will be enhanced orbs.
Each orb enhance awakening (even 6+) grants an additional 4% damage per orb. So your Verdandi team with 6 green orb enhances will have all green skyfall (NOT orb changed) orbs be enhanced, and each enhanced green orb will do a total of +30% damage.
fyi it's an extra of x1.24 on each combo with enhanced orb.
An combo with 1 enhanced orb would do x1.06x1.24=x1.31
An combo with 3 enhanced orb would do x1.18x1.24=x1.46
So it gets better the more enhanced orbs there are in your combo.
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Hi everybody. I recently bought myself a new tablet and since I have no idea what other games are worth playing since I basically retired SIF, I decided to give this game another chance. After way too many rerolls I finally got a god: Horus. Looking around it seems that this guy is among the best starters. I don't know how up-to-date the lists are, though, so I felt I better make sure whether this is still true. Better safe than sorry.
Also is there any website (other than padx) that has good guides to read up on?
Thank you.
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After way too many rerolls I finally got a god: Horus. Looking around it seems that this guy is among the best starters. I don't know how up-to-date the lists are, though, so I felt I better make sure whether this is still true. Better safe than sorry.
Unless the Meta shifts horribly, Horus will always be one of the best starters, his leader skill teaches how to orb match efficiently and he's good-to-great on mid-to-late game dungeons, and a complete beast in the early game, he just got a new Awoken Uvo in the JP server which only makes him even better for lategame content, although we won't be seeing that for a while in NA.
Also, welcome to the Horus club, I would say "add me" but I always leave my Horus on slot 2 (which you won't have access to until rank 120 iirc) so...
Aside from me, Suikama uses Isis which is basically "easier but weaker" Horus in most circumstances. I don't know who else here uses Horus or other rainbow leaders, though.
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puzzle dragons forum is a forum about puzzle dragons
also it would be best to rank up fast, as the window for using friends shortens if the rank disparity is beyond 50.
For starters, just put Horus on your team and wreck face up through the normal dungeons until you hit a temporary wall.
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If you want a really really good early horus team, you can make a team of only one color and as little HP as possible, while using an ogre as a leader and someone like amaterasu as a friend leader.
By doing this you can clear Friday Dungeon Expert very easily, and you can make a team ou of horus + dublits which is surprisingly effective early on (plus it lets you get horus practice)
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Awoken Horus doing c10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6aYKPbJ7LE) this guy's orb matching isnt even that good and he still got the clear
So yeah looks like Femme is pretty much his optimal sub. Covers light, converts hearts, and has double TPA.
Then you need to cover Blue and Green. You have the options of trying to go all mono red with Set + Rozuel, or you can cover B/G in a single sub with Muse or Isis (if she is b/g), or you can use utility god options like Susanoo, Kushi, Bodin (and I guess Urd for the fullboard like in the vid). Even though Horus only boosts Gods and not Devils, you still have a ton of options.
In comparison, if they don't do anything too weird with Awoken Isis, then Reine should be equally good for her. On top of that you have Nut who is an even lower cooldown orbchanger that potentially doesn't remove any colors. Between those two plus dual Isis leads, you never have to stall for actives.
Then you need to cover Red and Dark. Bodin and Orochi are for mono blue. Rodin, DKali and Diza can cover both. And other than that uh depends on exactly what her leader skill boosts but I'm guessing it's God like Horus.
Meanwhile Bastet just has to be mono green lol
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Damn, people are not kidding when they talk about using Lil' DXDQ for S-ranks. Mine is level six and it's working fine. Granted, it's working fine for expert-level dungeons, but for now that's okay by me since we have some. Guess I better level it up and evolve it. Maybe even grab some incidental skillups at some point. And since I'm in need of Tamadras to put my Verdandi team together, now is a great time for all of this to be coming together.
Speaking up Verdandi, I did the math on how much HP and attack it will have once it's finished. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha. The recovery isn't stellar, especially given the huge HP, but it has more attack and more HP than my Athena team, the same number of prongs, and more skillboosts, so it'll probably be my new alt dungeon team at the very least.
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I'm managing to get by on expert dungeon S ranks with just GZL + random 1*s.
I don't have much need for tamadras but you can never get enough of them.
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So yeah looks like Femme is pretty much his optimal sub. Covers light, converts hearts, and has double TPA.
The best part is like I swore down the line, it's kinda clear they were looking to nerf the valkyries (and by association, liu bei) with heart LS.
Then catstet happened.
Rip gungho, trolled by their own creation's popularity. Again.
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dont worry they'll probably add something like poison affliction where you take damage for every combo you make, so if you combo without hearts you die :V
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inb4 next descended boss has a preemptive Reversal Shield. "Take 10% of all damage you deal."
JUGGLER THIS NOW WHALES
or literally anyone that isn't luci
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inb4 next descended boss has a preemptive Reversal Shield. "Take 10% of all damage you deal."
JUGGLER THIS NOW WHALES
or literally anyone that isn't luci
Whenever something like this comes along I also kind of appreciate it because Gabriel usually handles it very well. He doesn't really care about poison, or blindness, or skill lock, or resolve, or basically anything but binds, repeated heartbreaking, or GTFO moves.
That said, 10% seems like a bit much. Hell, a 1% damage reflector would still probably be pretty deal-breaking depending on how the boss was set up.
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Though it used Ronia so it doesn't count.
:flamingv:
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Whoa, they drop in 7* form? nevermind
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A 1% reflection would still be terrifying, considering bosses have HP in the ranges of 8,000,000 while the player will (rarely) break 30,000, let alone 100,000 (hello noah)
I suppose the sheer -resilience- of GabrielxI&I (or do you pair with someone else now?) is incredible. I might poke fun at Beelzebub having 80,000+ HP pools but I still get terrified when I have to take multiple 20,000+ hits in a row because that RCV is lacking.
:flamingv:
maybe one day I'll pair up with a D/D Lucy
The hardest part of Hera Rush is definitely at the beginning. Hera-Ur and Hera-Is hit like trucks without much time to prepare, but Awoken Hera, Sowilo, and Beorc are all very tame. It's weird. If I can get past Ur/Is then I should be home free even without Ronia.
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A 1% reflection would still be terrifying, considering bosses have HP in the ranges of 8,000,000 while the player will (rarely) break 30,000, let alone 100,000 (hello noah)
I suppose the sheer -resilience- of GabrielxI&I (or do you pair with someone else now?) is incredible. I might poke fun at Beelzebub having 80,000+ HP pools but I still get terrified when I have to take multiple 20,000+ hits in a row because that RCV is lacking.
Still I&I. I think I prefer Bold Divine General, Sun Quan in theory (although losing a row is unfortunate), but there don't really seem to be any of them around at +297. I guess I should go look for some given that I haven't since he came out.
Edit: Nope, still can't find any.
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inb4 next descended boss has a preemptive Reversal Shield. "Take 10% of all damage you deal."
JUGGLER THIS NOW WHALES
or literally anyone that isn't luci
>Activates Astaroth active
>infinite counter??
well I'd die first before the boss
rip
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/583139703869685760
student council president AA Luci
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>Activates Astaroth active
>infinite counter??
well I'd die first before the boss
rip
Nah man, just use your Shaitan first :V
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3 Rolls:
Succubus
Ronia (dupe)
Dragon Shogun
rip
saving my stones for PAD Academy REM
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okay okay
im now part of the catte master race. alt rerolled a bastet
HERE WE GOOO
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okay okay
im now part of the catte master race. alt rerolled a bastet
HERE WE GOOO
now the hard part is waiting for the awoken uvo to actually get to NA?
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lol Challenge 11 Lv8 cleared with Awoken Bastet.
I'm afraid of wave 1 twinlits no more. :v
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It's been 3 months since December the last time I played PaD seriously.
I went to soft play the game when I couldn't get anything out of the REM during Godfests for quite a while.
Basically I was stuck in the trench trying to dig for new monsters to beat more difficult dungeons. I've stagnated at that point.
After the mess with the Christmas REM which costed me 50 stones. I went to stop playing hard on the game, like ranking up, spending sta. wisely, stockpiling, etc. I've been stuck in Rank 200+ since Novemeber.
Apparently I've missed a lot of stuff. And there's even an announcement for Lu Bu's ult evo, and even Bastet has a new ult evo as well.
I decided to play the game seriously once more when I get some better monsters. I stocked up 115 stones since December, spent some on boxes which increased my storage from 400 to 510, then finally spent on the REM during the recently Godfest Egyptian 1/Angels 1. I saw a chibi Chinese Gods REM around a few months back. Never bothered since I know I won't be using them as much.
My target Gods in priority order, was one of the Ronias, Red being my higher priority, having a Devil team as my main. Bastet, Kali, and Isis. Metatron was x1, so I had little hope getting either one of them.
I got a lot of Gold Eggs, being Angels and other Gods, a few silver Eggs, and one 3-star Egg being a Vampire. But these ones are the only noteworthy.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/dw9xg6.png)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/f0bwuf.png)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/zr23d.png)
I also got a Norn Urd, which is a pretty good card too.
Anyways, after almost a year of when I first started playing PaD. After some gruel battles, a lot of whining, and a lot of patience. I finally got my Ronia...and there are 2 of them too. I can finally use the 30+ Red Dragon Fruits I got from the PAL, that I've been stockpiling. Hopefully I don't keep getting Ronias. I really wish I could've gotten Bastet(I NEED THIS), or a Kali, since I really want to transition to a combo-based leader.
I can finally do this after Lu Bu gets his ult evo.
(http://pic.pimg.tw/midd/1425283327-2333686647_l.jpg)
I'm gonna earn a 100 stones again, which will probably take again 3 months or so. More pulls are better than less, as always. Hopefully, there's another Egyptian 1/2 with both Bastet and Nephthys present during that time, along with D. Metatron. If not, I'll just wait for another one.
My first goal after today, is to get to Rank 300 before the end of the month.
Edit:
Looks like my ID was removed 'cause...I wouldn't say I was inactive. I always log in everyday to get the stones in my mail. I would say, I haven't played much recently. Nevertheless, I will be playing a lot for now again.
My ID: 351,629,319
Main Lead: Divine Flying General, Lu Bu +297
2nd Lead: Banishing Claw Byakko, Haku
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Decided to go in and do four rolls, got Sasuke and Baal. More orbchangers are always nice!
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What an absolute shitshow of a godfest for me.
Overall results:
Green Wee Jas
Stupid green padx dragon
Machine golem
Fairlio
Fire dragon swordsman
Mystic stone knight
Mystic flame knight
Artemis
Sea Serpent
:colonveeplusalpha:
Edit: Also, padx with the really depressing april fool's joke.
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Yoloroll Day 2: Farlio ::)
FUCK I HIT THE BUTTON AGAIN INSTEAD OF BACK Roll Day 2: Avalon Drake ???
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FUCK I HIT THE BUTTON AGAIN INSTEAD OF BACK Roll Day 2: Avalon Drake ???
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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So between that and yesterday's Angel pull the moral of this story is to always not mean to hit the button :V
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PadX's April Fool's joke may be mean, but "Original work fully reproduced in dungeon" is a good joke. Also, their banner.
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The things people do for fun. (http://i.imgur.com/IbmJDAg.png)
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Day 2:
Roll 1 > Laila
Magic Stones: 0
Did I do good?
I really wish I could've gotten Bastet(I NEED THIS), or a Kali, since I really want to transition to a combo-based leader.
Just sent you a friend request. My in-game name contains my forum UID.
And I have a Bastet you can use if you want (though she's only level 30...)
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It's been 3 months since December the last time I played PaD seriously.
I went to soft play the game when I couldn't get anything out of the REM during Godfests for quite a while.
Basically I was stuck in the trench trying to dig for new monsters to beat more difficult dungeons. I've stagnated at that point.
After the mess with the Christmas REM which costed me 50 stones. I went to stop playing hard on the game, like ranking up, spending sta. wisely, stockpiling, etc. I've been stuck in Rank 200+ since Novemeber.
Apparently I've missed a lot of stuff. And there's even an announcement for Lu Bu's ult evo, and even Bastet has a new ult evo as well.
I decided to play the game seriously once more when I get some better monsters. I stocked up 115 stones since December, spent some on boxes which increased my storage from 400 to 510, then finally spent on the REM during the recently Godfest Egyptian 1/Angels 1. I saw a chibi Chinese Gods REM around a few months back. Never bothered since I know I won't be using them as much.
My target Gods in priority order, was one of the Ronias, Red being my higher priority, having a Devil team as my main. Bastet, Kali, and Isis. Metatron was x1, so I had little hope getting either one of them.
I got a lot of Gold Eggs, being Angels and other Gods, a few silver Eggs, and one 3-star Egg being a Vampire. But these ones are the only noteworthy.
(http://i58.tinypic.com/dw9xg6.png)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/f0bwuf.png)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/zr23d.png)
I also got a Norn Urd, which is a pretty good card too.
Anyways, after almost a year of when I first started playing PaD. After some gruel battles, a lot of whining, and a lot of patience. I finally got my Ronia...and there are 2 of them too. I can finally use the 30+ Red Dragon Fruits I got from the PAL, that I've been stockpiling. Hopefully I don't keep getting Ronias. I really wish I could've gotten Bastet(I NEED THIS), or a Kali, since I really want to transition to a combo-based leader.
I can finally do this after Lu Bu gets his ult evo.
(http://pic.pimg.tw/midd/1425283327-2333686647_l.jpg)
I'm gonna earn a 100 stones again, which will probably take again 3 months or so. More pulls are better than less, as always. Hopefully, there's another Egyptian 1/2 with both Bastet and Nephthys present during that time, along with D. Metatron. If not, I'll just wait for another one.
My first goal after today, is to get to Rank 300 before the end of the month.
Edit:
Looks like my ID was removed 'cause...I wouldn't say I was inactive. I always log in everyday to get the stones in my mail. I would say, I haven't played much recently. Nevertheless, I will be playing a lot for now again.
My ID: 351,629,319
Main Lead: Divine Flying General, Lu Bu +297
2nd Lead: Banishing Claw Byakko, Haku
added to op
also psh you dont need bastet isis is better anyways
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Godfest day 2 Yoloroll: Osiris.
It's weird how I can consistently get gold eggs in godfests.
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Godfest day 2 Yoloroll: Osiris.
It's weird how I can consistently get gold eggs in godfests.
I'd say I'm pretty sure gold egg rates have been slightly increasing as they add more stuff to the rem
but then rip edible
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Don't mind me, just literally being motk's bad pazudora roll martyr
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But at least you didn't spend money this time!
....right???
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Yeah, the rolls this time were just saving up stones. :fail:
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Up to 1/29 skillups during this event. Edible can be the bad roll martyr, I'll be the bad skillup martyr, and everyone else go go go.
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Thanks, commandercool. I went 4/4 on skillups for my second Ronia as I uvo'd her.
I mean I already have one skillmaxed Ronia but having two skillmaxed useless dragons red devils can't hurt.
btw En
While the more popular pairing is Lu Bu x Ronia, there are still plenty of reasons to go Beelzebub x Ronia so hmu because it's beelzebub
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If I'm not going ronia/ronia, I definitely prefer ronia/beelzebub. The extra HP is much better than the extra damage you get out of Lu Bu.
That said, Lu Bu's active is incredibly useful, so plan accordingly if you may require it.
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dammit chirei how do you farm this shit
even ignoring the anti dupe killing my Isis damage and the times you make a mistake ad die, i cant even use up all my stamina before satan says okay that's enough for today and shuts his damn doors
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I can't speak for that dungeon, but Alt Polar Night Tower is pretty fast with Rose/Verche/Rei Sirius/Meimei/Izanagi/Athena.
Also my yoloroll today was a Strawberry Dragon. Edible and I can be roll martyrs together!
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I mean I already have one skillmaxed Ronia but having two skillmaxed useless dragons red devils can't hurt.
Will you seriously cut it out? Jesus.
Had enough for one more roll today and it ended up being a Vampire.
I guess the game thinks that I haven't already had dozens of Thanatos/Lilith/Vampire dupes and wanted me to use them with Lumiel. :V
(I really should have saved those stones for Centaur farming or something, ugh.)
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So since today's my one year of pad (Why do we get the Super Golds at day 367 and not 365?), and I happen to be at my university's library where I first installed PAD and pulled Leilan, I decided to use up some Google Opinions credit for one more pull to top it off.
[13:22] <Sapz> Yolopull result: Perseus
<insert like ten minutes of people talking about perseus builds>
[13:31] <Chirei|scoole> ...
[13:31] <Chirei|scoole> ...god dammit lol
[13:31] <Chirei|scoole> i got perseus
dammit chirei how do you farm this shit
even ignoring the anti dupe killing my Isis damage and the times you make a mistake ad die, i cant even use up all my stamina before satan says okay that's enough for today and shuts his damn doors
What's your runtime? I think it takes me 3~4 minutes when I'm focused to churn one out. Deaths probably happen 1/20 runs for me or something on average.
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i dunno but i do other stuff at the same time so yeah that's probably why
well also when I rank up cause then i have like over 10 runs of stamina so each run has to take like 5 mins for it to work
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i dunno but i do other stuff at the same time so yeah that's probably why
well also when I rank up cause then i have like over 10 runs of stamina so each run has to take like 5 mins for it to work
As long as you rank up and expend a chunk of the bar, you can just wait a bit until you have enough stam to rank up again, etc, the biggest pressure is getting the rank up/trying to not die before then because you got stopped cold right there. Dying after the rank up is less terrible.
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So since today's my one year of pad (Why do we get the Super Golds at day 367 and not 365?), and I happen to be at my university's library where I first installed PAD and pulled Leilan, I decided to use up some Google Opinions credit for one more pull to top it off.
[13:22] <Sapz> Yolopull result: Perseus
<insert like ten minutes of people talking about perseus builds>
[13:31] <Chirei|scoole> ...
[13:31] <Chirei|scoole> ...god dammit lol
[13:31] <Chirei|scoole> i got perseus
What's your runtime? I think it takes me 3~4 minutes when I'm focused to churn one out. Deaths probably happen 1/20 runs for me or something on average.
The Parvati dream is real
dammit chirei how do you farm this shit
even ignoring the anti dupe killing my Isis damage and the times you make a mistake ad die, i cant even use up all my stamina before satan says okay that's enough for today and shuts his damn doors
alt dungeons right
Your problem is doing it with Isis. I did it with Bastet and I died after like 5 runs usually as I lose my concentration, then I switch to Elize+frdVerdandi and I never dies.
I thought someone did something like valkyrie+athena
also psh you dont need bastet isis is better anyways
i will fite u
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alt dungeons right
Your problem is doing it with Isis. I did it with Bastet and I died after like 5 runs usually as I lose my concentration, then I switch to Elize+frdVerdandi and I never dies.
I thought someone did something like valkyrie+athena
I use Rose+Athena, but if Suikama wants to try to make it work with Isis, I won't discourage him since he's been playing plenty longer than me and can probably find some way to pull it off. I'll also note that before super valks became a thing, I was using Leilan+Athena leads and still pushing sub-4 minute times, so I don't see why Isis couldn't do the same.
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I'm using Reine+Isis actually
even though I'm hitting x10-12 most of the time i just feel super weak. Like normally one shotting something like Tiamat should be no problem but now I have to hope he doesn't spawn on a 1 turn timer because I can;t one hit him even with 2 water TPA matches
maybe I should just farm mechdragons since the exp is even better and that's all i want right now (tired of being sub 200 stam)
stupid fucking wood mech is the worst though goddamn why is he on a 1 turn counter
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I use Indra&Athena for alts myself (well, only done PNT this way but still) and it works ok. Over 30k HP so I can take a hit from most things if I screw up, though my RCV is still terrible due to lack of plusses for fixing the issue.
I will probably try with Karin once I get some subs leveled more since she has a good mult and potentially better ultility options.
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I'm using Reine+Isis actually
even though I'm hitting x10-12 most of the time i just feel super weak. Like normally one shotting something like Tiamat should be no problem but now I have to hope he doesn't spawn on a 1 turn timer because I can;t one hit him even with 2 water TPA matches
Tiamat's the reason I'm running PNT with Rose + Athena, yeah. Leviathan's on a long enough timer that he's no issue but Tiamat needs to be oneshot in the worst case scenario.
Unfortunately Tower of Flare wouldn't be much better because Divinegon. orz
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I thought with TPA a 3+4 was pretty much the same as a 4+4.
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nope cause TPA damage only applies to itself if that makes any sense
basically it works like orb enhance
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So I tried Alt. Castle of Satan for the first time...
It begins.
Indra's not gonna cut it as a leader for stage 1 though I noticed; damage is simply TOO low, unless maybe if I leveled Angelion and then made hearts, but Idon't know who I'd get rid of for that. I'd probably have to wait til Valk was maxskill to do that change. I did clear with Athena/friend!GodValk though.
Stage 2 I got screwed over because my tablet decided I had lifted my finger when I didn't so an Ogre punched my entire soul out(since that turn of phrase seems popular right now for some). Once I get to the boss stage the real fun can begin.
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I can't clear stage one because no matter on what timer wave 6 spawns in I can consistently get him down to 10% heath before he punches my face for my entire heath bar + 1k.
Even if I pop Izanagi + Orbchanger + Athena.
Looks like alt dungeon farming ain't gonna work too well for me.
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Don't mind me, just literally being motk's bad pazudora roll martyr
sorry did you forget weapon carnival
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Whoops I almost died praise the lord for CDD damage resist (http://imgur.com/aUOLYMN)
This is basically my Alt Dungeon experience so far.
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sorry did you forget weapon carnival
I avoided weapon carnival completely because I thought I was being wise :|
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Did 7 rolls.
White dragon Knight
Leeza
Arcline
Fairlio
Undine
Gambler
Dryad
Guess it wasn't too bad, but I didn't get anything I wanted.
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I avoided weapon carnival completely because I thought I was being wise :|
:missing the fucking point.jpg:
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at least neither of you are that guy who spent over 1k trying to roll rodin and failed
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at least neither of you are that guy who spent over 1k trying to roll rodin and failed
give me a stable job and I can be!
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This Legendary Seaway shit is starting to become too demoralizing to continue. Five Wangren drops in a row, Beyzul drop that doesn't skill up, four Wangren drops, Beyzul that fails to skill up, rinse, repeat. Been dropping assloads of blue pirates but I'm like 1/10 on UmiYama skillups despite 2.5x rates (although at least it's not 0/10 I guess). The massive stamina cost means I barely get to play PAD any more, just like sixty seconds three times a day. It's just variable enough with pengdra spawns and Seven-Star results that I lose 1/5 times or so. The experience, both account-wise and monster food-wise, are great though, so at least there's that. I want to finish Beyzul so this can be oveeeeer!
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So uh does anyone know if Isis is actually in Padz? I think i once saw either Horus or Ra in but dunno about Isis.
Cause if she's in then its a definite buy for me :derp:
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This game is going to ruin us all.
Disciplinary Committee Member Athena (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBj-uPSUgAAYzBx.jpg:large) is incredible enough as it is.
But then you get to her ult evo. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBj_OcpUEAAgYZV.jpg:large)
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This game is going to ruin us all.
Disciplinary Committee Member Athena (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBj-uPSUgAAYzBx.jpg:large) is incredible enough as it is.
But then you get to her ult evo. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBj_OcpUEAAgYZV.jpg:large)
Also, there was a preview for a dungeon. Normal Athena was in it since theres not a full set yet.
Who else was?
Isis.
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Where could I see said preview?
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Where could I see said preview?
well, for one, pdx.
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Survey 16 is
Dark Shield Dragon (I blame juggler :VVV)
and...
wait for it...
K A M U I
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Gungho don't do this to me
You've already fucked with my heart once by not actually making awoken Isis
You're doing it again no stooopppppp
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk-_J_C5wL0
Wave 1 twinlits can't stop me anymore.
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This game is going to ruin us all.
Disciplinary Committee Member Athena (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBj-uPSUgAAYzBx.jpg:large) is incredible enough as it is.
But then you get to her ult evo. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBj_OcpUEAAgYZV.jpg:large)
The ult evo has the same stats as the normal Athena the only difference is that the ult evo has......
You've already fucked with my heart once by not actually making awoken Isis
wait for it...
also
(http://i.imgur.com/7LuvpVc.png)
eyyy gurl
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also this lucifer buff happened and is mostly bun approved
i'm more mixed on it, but it's overall a buff which is a fucking miracle given who we're talking about
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also this lucifer buff happened and is mostly bun approved
i'm more mixed on it, but it's overall a buff which is a fucking miracle given who we're talking about
the downside is that AA Lucifer is pretty much a trash-tier starter roll now.
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the downside is that AA Lucifer is pretty much a trash-tier starter roll now.
the community is such a toxic piece of shit no one ever rates him highly anyway what the fuck is new
certainly not that
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Suikama here's the Isis that was promised. (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/583548230492753921)
the community is such a toxic piece of shit no one ever rates him highly anyway what the fuck is new
certainly not that
if you want me to be frank about it, people still did value Morning Star as a crutch, and I don't go on many communities where that is not the prevailing opinion of AA Luci as a starter. But if you needed any confirmation that some people thought AA Luci got NERFED, this was the reason why
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Now hold on; back up. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba back up.
Luci has a farmable skillup?
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Suikama here's the Isis that was promised. (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/583548230492753921)
Highschoolgirl Isis? I approve :3
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Now hold on; back up. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba back up.
Luci has a farmable skillup?
High Dark Ninja skills up Luci yes
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this is gone for reasons
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Well, I tried to get a dark ninja, but failed. I did get a blue jewel though, so yay?
Seems the noble dragon dungeon was made just for Lucifer.
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Suikama here's the Isis that was promised. (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/583548230492753921)
O-oh my god she's so beautiful :* :* :*
Alright Gungho you win this time rip all my stones
And she's even Water/Dark, gtfo Bodin I don't need you anymore
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PAD needs some sort of "transmog" where you can use the art of one card, but it keeps the stats/etc. of the card you're using. Limited to evolutions and ult evos of the same monster, of course.
I think they'd get a lot more use out of their pre-evo art if this was a thing.
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PAD needs some sort of "transmog" where you can use the art of one card, but it keeps the stats/etc. of the card you're using. Limited to evolutions and ult evos of the same monster, of course.
I think they'd get a lot more use out of their pre-evo art if this was a thing.
So waifu costumes, basically?:P
I know I'd use Susanoo's first stage art given the choice.
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oh man i'm kind of conflicted now
one on hand if schoolgirl Isis is only a 4 star then that would be lame. I'm hoping they design her to be a perfect sub for Awoken Isis. She's already B/D which covers an extra color (unless awoken is B/D too...) and if her active is just her normal one then that's three 3 CD actives to keep up the valkitty engine.
but on the other hand if she's a 5 star then RIP wallet
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K A M U I
IT'S ABOUT TIME, JAPAN.
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IT'S ABOUT TIME, JAPAN.
my sarasvati is crying years of happiness
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It's a miracle, I got 2/2 Beyzul drops and skillups today! Quick Edible, to the REM, the curse is lifted! Wait... Never mind.
Just three more to go.
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Running some numbers on the Morning Star change:
Tower of Giants Gigas: needs 222 ATK to OHKO
----Level 1 AA Luci starts with 419. Yeah.
Sacred Mt. Bakkes Brachys: needs 376 ATK to OHKO
Castle of Satan Voice: needs 379 ATK to OHKO
Castle of Satan Vampire Lord: needs 1072 ATK to OHKO, or 537 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 15 AA, which isn't that far-fetched because friend leaders exist, or a single level 70 SoD
Tower of Flare Ifrit: needs 179 ATK to OHKO
Polar Night Tower Leviathan: needs 934 ATK to OHKO
----max-level +0 AA leaves it with 19144 HP. This should be easy to combo away since Leviathan has no defense.
Tower of Nature Fafnir: needs 846 ATK to OHKO
----max-level +0 AA leaves it with 1553 HP. Actually has defense but still this should be easy.
Tomb of the Saint - Deep Hades: needs 1222 ATK to *2*HKO
----don't most people suggest to run with an Odin friend here anyway if you don't have a burst lead?
----two max-level +0 SoD leaves him with 6100 HP
Fertile Land Fortoytops: needs 386 ATK to OHKO
Ice Maze Megalodran: needs 741 ATK to OHKO
----level 39 +0 AA
Blazing Highway Flare Drall: needs 637 ATK to OHKO
----level 27 +0 AA
Twilight Woods Drawn Joker: has Flash Bind (but if you have levels this should not be a problem), needs 1215 ATK to OHKO or 608 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 24 +0 AA
COSITA Echidna: needs 1073 ATK to OHKO or 538 ATK to 2HKO
COSITA Fog Chimera: needs just slightly less than Echidna
----the Flame Chimera doesn't do enough damage on its own for the binds to be an issue, especially since at this point things really should be at least evolved once
COSITA Vampire Lord: needs 1396 ATK to OHKO or 699 ATK to 2HKO
----wouldn't you focus on the Pierdras first, though?
----two level 34 +0 AA
Do some of these take a bit more effort to kill with Morning Star? Yes. Is it alarmingly high amounts of effort? Not particularly.
Will run some other dungeons' numbers in another post if people want to see them.
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oh man i'm kind of conflicted now
one on hand if schoolgirl Isis is only a 4 star then that would be lame. I'm hoping they design her to be a perfect sub for Awoken Isis. She's already B/D which covers an extra color (unless awoken is B/D too...) and if her active is just her normal one then that's three 3 CD actives to keep up the valkitty engine.
but on the other hand if she's a 5 star then RIP wallet
On the one hand, 4 star isis means more people can submit to isis.
On the other hand, she'll probably be a 5 star, and we can have 4 star healer schoolgirls.
then i have to hyper another alraune rip
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oh man i'm kind of conflicted now
one on hand if schoolgirl Isis is only a 4 star then that would be lame. I'm hoping they design her to be a perfect sub for Awoken Isis. She's already B/D which covers an extra color (unless awoken is B/D too...) and if her active is just her normal one then that's three 3 CD actives to keep up the valkitty engine.
but on the other hand if she's a 5 star then RIP wallet
What if, she's the 6 star.
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What if, she's the 6 star.
i sell anticrystal knight for a million dollars and then give it all to gungho
seriously though that would suck D: D: D:
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i sell anticrystal knight for a million dollars and then give it all to gungho
seriously though that would suck D: D: D:
Nah man. Just have faith that your love for Isis will come through for you. Worked for me and I'm not half as devoted as you are :V
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Tomb of the Saint - Deep Hades: needs 1222 ATK to *2*HKO
----don't most people suggest to run with an Odin friend here anyway if you don't have a burst lead?
----two max-level +0 SoD leaves him with 6100 HP
I did this recently with a team of collab silvers, an op ice cream from baskin robins, and a lil'blue dragon just using Kirin and Goku on JP. Like, just to put it on the table how much more trivial this is to burst leads.
Overall though I agree with RDJ here, Most of the stuff in normals isn't actually threatening to Lucifer still. The problem is the buildup to do bigger things imo.
i sell anticrystal knight for a million dollars and then give it all to gungho
seriously though that would suck D: D: D:
I've theorized this might just be like the xmas rem.
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So everyone will basically be the same as their normal forms but just with different awakenings?
Although they have different typings than normal like L/D Luci and B/D Isis
also i would not look forward to skilling up another isis...
wait what if Schoolgirl Isis is 6 star and has the same leader skill as Awoken Isis oh boyyyyy
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So everyone will basically be the same as their normal forms but just with different awakenings?
Although they have different typings than normal like L/D Luci and B/D Isis
also i would not look forward to skilling up another isis...
wait what if Schoolgirl Isis is 6 star and has the same leader skill as Awoken Isis oh boyyyyy
I think that's somewhat a given.
The morning star buff atleast confirms that there is definitely going to be Morning Star on Prez. Luci. I'd...imagine they might mess with some other things, but overwhelmingly I believe they'll be most the same cards with some changes, like xmas rem.
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hey suikama i got bored
(http://i.imgur.com/NZ7PW1D.png)
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:V
also dammit went into Thursday mythical with the wrong team. The dungeon is actually stupidly easy now, but it's just that yellow dragon fruit is impossible to kill in two turns with an all water team and of course it's the only one that can actually kill me >_>
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Hah, I just remembered today is Thursday. Normally I'd be obsessing over trifruits and everything I needed out of them, but this is the first Thursday since literally December where I'm in no huge need of stuff from it.
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So I think Awoken Isis could actually be an optimal Ra sub
With a hypermaxed team of Awoken Ra, Kali, Kali, DKali, Awoken Isis, Awoken Ra, you can have a free active up 100% of the time:
Turn 1: Isis active
Turn 2: Ra1
Turn 3: Ra2
Turn 4: Isis
Turn 5: Kali1
Turn 6: Kali2
Turn 7: Isis
Turn 8: DKali
Turn 9: Ra1 is back up
Turn 10: Isis
Turn 11: Ra2
Turn 12: Kali1
Turn 13: Isis
Turn 14: Kali2
Turn 15: D Kali
Turn 16: Isis
Turn 17: Ra1 is back up again and so on
This doesn't work if Gungho messes up Isis and doesn't make her B/G or increases her active cooldown or something else dumb like that
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So I think Awoken Isis could actually be an optimal Ra sub
With a hypermaxed team of Awoken Ra, Kali, Kali, DKali, Awoken Isis, Awoken Ra, you can have a free active up 100% of the time:
Turn 1: Isis active
Turn 2: Ra1
Turn 3: Ra2
Turn 4: Isis
Turn 5: Kali1
Turn 6: Kali2
Turn 7: Isis
Turn 8: DKali
Turn 9: Ra1 is back up
Turn 10: Isis
Turn 11: Ra2
Turn 12: Kali1
Turn 13: Isis
Turn 14: Kali2
Turn 15: D Kali
Turn 16: Isis
Turn 17: Ra1 is back up again and so on
This doesn't work if Gungho messes up Isis and doesn't make her B/G or increases her active cooldown or something else dumb like that
I think it's going to depend on her stats to some degree how optimal she is. I think Ra is going to be more worried about tanking hits while he resets the board/stalls for a Kali active than doing a full burst every turn. Her active is obviously great for the team though, so as long as her HP is pretty good, which it probably will be especially if she's physical, she's probably great. And I am a combo idiot so maybe most people can do Ra actives consistently enough to get along with just those Kalis without every having to clean up the board or stall, I don't know.
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All of the other Awoken Egyptians have crazy good base stats, and Isis already actually has the highest base stat total of all the Egyptians so she should be good.
Also dammit I should have rolled during Egypt 2.0 for Nephtys
Awoken Isis, Schoolgirl Isis, Neps, and Nut, holy shit we got the whole family best team ever
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They'd be missing a trick not to have Imouto Nephthys in there. Actually, they could even put the normal one in the school
girl REM.
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This doesn't work if Gungho messes up Isis and doesn't make her B/G or increases her active cooldown or something else dumb like that
They won't increase AS cooldown, and if they do it will be only be 1 turn higher.
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Yeah, not to mention that seeing how forus is B/D, there's no longer a pattern to adhere to.
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Yeah, not to mention that seeing how forus is B/D, there's no longer a pattern to adhere to.
Well I think at least they are giving them new colors.
So that means Awoken Isis is either B/G or B/D
...or B/R which I totally forgot about since I assumed that no recent ult with sphinx meant no B/R but actually it might just be because there's no blue Egyptian boss yet...
...but in that case I'd still need to cover green
...muse pls
On the bright side B/R actually makes the most sense for Isis as a leader because there's nothing else good to cover B/R
With B/R Isis you have Reine for light, Bodin/SchoolgirlIsis? for dark, and the most options actually for green with Muse/U&Y/Berry Dragon/Skuld/etc.
B/R's only good options is Orochi who's active cooldown is too long, although double TPA is nice
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This was going to be too long to post but then the current wordfilter made it hilarious so I'm posting it anyway. More calculations:
Ocean of Heaven Neptune: needs 786 ATK to OHKO
----level 9 +0 SoD
The Heroes' Hideout Vampire Lord: with one Ultra Gravity, needs 1057 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 67 +0 SoD
----this is also sufficient to 2HKO Highlander
The God-King's Floating Garden Zeus: with four Ultra Gravities, needs 1171 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 92 +0 SoD
----the chimeras on the prior wave can be 2HKOed after two gravities at this point; since you're running four gravities, though, the remaining one is still pretty RNG
Super Metal Dragons Descended: Morning Star can kill a super king outright no matter what level
Tuesday Dungeon Keeper of Flame/Water/Forest (Expert): needs 752 ATK to OHKO
Tuesday Dungeon Keeper of Rainbow (Master): Assuming no gravities:
----needs 1139 ATK (level 85 SoD) to 4HKO
----needs 912 ATK (level 36 SoD) to 5HKO
----needs 761 ATK (level 41 AA) to 6HKO
----obviously if you combo hard enough you can reduce that amount, especially since you'll need to keep up healing
Wednesday Dungeon Ancient Blue Sacred Mask (Legend): with three Ultra Gravities, needs 1186 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 95 +0 SoD
----if you have either Chester you can be skillbind resistant with this setup, but I'd rather use a heartmaker and just ride it out
The Goddess Descended! Great Valkyrie (Legend): with three Ultra Gravities, needs 1174 ATK to 2HKO
----two level 92 +0 SoD
----the demons on the previous wave can be 2HKOed after one gravity at this point
The Thief Descended! Ishikawa Goemon (Legend): after three Ultra Gravities and one Wrath of God, needs 1162 ATK to 2HKO
----since you need Zeus for that strategy, you already meet that requirement
----alternatively, bring a Keeper of Rainbow to help with the bind; if you can whittle him down to half health, then with just the three gravities you need both Lucis to be at least level...32
And probably pretty important as well are skillup dungeons and biweeklies. Just a few examples because this post is getting kind of long:
Mystic Water Dragon - No Wood Antikythera:
----Legend: once it gets to Constellation Blast range, with two Ultra Gravities, needs 778 ATK to 2HKO; with one grav, needs 1107 to 2HKO
----Master: once it gets to Constellation Blast range, with one Ultra Gravity, needs 753 ATK to 2HKO; with no gravs, needs 1074
Flame Dragon Knight - No Dupes (Legend):
--------Flame Spirit Will-O'-Wisp: can be OHKOed by any Luci
--------Scorched Land Dragon Knight, Himiko: assuming the friend is a max-level Rebel Seraph Lucifer with no plusses, when she gets to Burning Yamataikoku range, one Ultra Gravity brings her to guaranteed kill range
------------with no gravity, a max level SoD + said friend will leave her at 28920 HP remaining
EVANGELION Collab The Tenth Angel - Assault Mode (Master): with three Ultra Gravities, two max level SoD leaves it at 96716 HP remaining
----you can stall as long as you need to on wave 3, and your non-gravity sub can be a darkmaker to help finish Zeruel off
----Legend might be doable with three Heras/one Zeus?
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Yeah, not to mention that seeing how forus is B/D, there's no longer a pattern to adhere to.
One of his evo mats is Thoth, so I think the pattern of "inherit stuff from the evo mats" still holds.
Of course, how they decide WHAT the monsters are going to inherit I have no clue whatsoever.
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Dang school Luci has a shitton of attack
Guess that makes him better than normal Luci cause his ms is stronger
And on top of that he boosts light so he has stronger Zeus gravities
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Oh ho, Teruyo will have a leader skill like Valkitty, only farmable.
Active: orbspawn, 4 turns maxskilled instead of Valkitty's delay 1 after 11 turns (or 8 turns with pys)
(http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1945.png) (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1945)
I can see her being a popular substitute for Osiris. Her awakenings are even similar to his.
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Dang school Luci has a shitton of attack
Guess that makes him better than normal Luci cause his ms is stronger
And on top of that he boosts light so he has stronger Zeus gravities
But not the quicker Hera Gravities. Also around 100 rcv loss is...fairly significant. There's better rcv buffers in light though.
The attack is pretty much a thing though, potentially stronger first turn burst is not something to sniff at.
I was expecting silly awakenings, but then he'd be actually 'good' tm flat out.
I don't know, I think Light might work out for him okay. We'll have to see, it's less silly than I expected, still probably the troll drop of the academy rem like Xmasrem.
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He's also 7 stars, so he'll come out of the rem as 6 stars? Or he doesn't evolve and is straight up 7 stars? Lol
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He's also 7 stars, so he'll come out of the rem as 6 stars? Or he doesn't evolve and is straight up 7 stars? Lol
Likely the latter, I think we've got christmas rem bullshit coming.
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He's School Council President, so I'm assuming he's the 6* of the REM. Athena and Isis will almost certainly be 5*
It will be weird though if Gigas is a 5* in the REM. Will there be silver eggs? Who will be in them?
Cut by Christ ... oh, that's what that was. Disappointing if accurate.
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Hm. So far I'm not sold yet. Luci getting an MS change and way better ATK to go with it is kind of a slap in the face to the original, even when the new MS has somewhat more potential overall if you pour a ton of work into it. New Luci is cool and all, but still not enough for me to dive headfirst for.
Gigas is.... decent? The higher ATK is pretty cool but taking away 1500 HP and giving him even less RCV is...I dunno, doesn't seem worth it. I guess I'll have to see him in practice first.
As for Hera-Ur Senpai I love her art BUT three enhance awakenings jfc gungho when will you realize that those are trash awakenings and no one really likes them
I guess my opinion will depend on how good Athena and Isis are.
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Hm. So far I'm not sold yet. Luci getting an MS change and way better ATK to go with it is kind of a slap in the face to the original, even when the new MS has somewhat more potential overall if you pour a ton of work into it. New Luci is cool and all, but still not enough for me to dive headfirst for.
Gigas is.... decent? The higher ATK is pretty cool but taking away 1500 HP and giving him even less RCV is...I dunno, doesn't seem worth it. I guess I'll have to see him in practice first.
As for Hera-Ur Senpai I love her art BUT three enhance awakenings jfc gungho when will you realize that those are trash awakenings and no one really likes them
I guess my opinion will depend on how good Athena and Isis are.
Consider the fact original gigas basically has the same attack with his awakenings.
yeah.
Invade gigas is kinda crappy actually, but hes a free row heartbreaker.
Again, It's looking like the same bullshit they pulled in December. I wouldn't get very hype.
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Again, It's looking like the same bullshit they pulled in December. I wouldn't get very hype.
except POWER OF WAIFU so people will still cut their wallet open for this. myself included most likely
:colonveeplusalpha:
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/oICh2L0.png)
bam bam motherfucker
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but at what cost? how much of his original body does he have left, or is it all stored in the canopic jars?
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but at what cost? how much of his original body does he have left, or is it all stored in the canopic jars?
I think judging from his earlier evos that's literally just all armor he's wearing, which means he's pretty strong to be lugging around something that looks heavier than Mjolnir armor from Halo.
Also wow, I am so glad that I am a hoarder and didn't waste Flampy on DQ Hera-Ur. She got a farmable skillup anyway.
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It begins again: three runs, three Devilits :fail:
At least I have a 99% fail proof team but ugh.
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It begins again: three runs, three Devilits :fail:
At least I have a 99% fail proof team but ugh.
Having been through that and possibly being about to go through that again, I feel you. Ugh.
Meanwhile, dropped 150 stamina on Friday Dungeon Expert hoping to get, after a fashion, two Dub-Emelits and two Dub-Mythlits. I have zero of either. Literally dropped Dub-Saphilit six times in a row. Guess I should have just been doing Sky Prison so at least I'd have a toss-up between the Mythlits and a Tamadra.
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I finished farming! Not quite, but at least Echidna max skilled :derp:
(http://i.imgur.com/dLnUONU.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/XKsYXQb.jpg)
THIS HAND OF MINE IS GLOWING WITH AN AWESOME POWER!
ITS BURNING GRIP TELLS ME TO DEFEAT YOU!
TAKE THIS!
MY LOVE, MY ANGER, AND ALL MY SORROW!
S U N B U R S T K N U C K L E!
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(http://i.imgur.com/BApJj3e.jpg)
This would be appreciated if it had happened for wood or fire, but guess who doesn't have gabriel ;_;
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(http://i.imgur.com/BApJj3e.jpg)
This would be appreciated if it had happened for wood or fire, but guess who doesn't have gabriel ;_;
Wow.
That's all I got, wow.
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so I might have discovered an interesting team build completely by accident
Yamato-Takeru/Leilan/Chiyome/???/???/Yamato-Takeru
using Leilan then Chiyome and one of the Takerus on the same turn gets you a full board of fire orbs, which you can then explode for 16x. I guess you can fill in one of the blank slots with an enhancer like Shiva or your other preferred fire subs.
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Full boards don't really deal as much damage as you would expect though, certainly not without a bunch of orb enhances and somebody to enhance them after the fact.
Takeru wants to do rows for maximum numbers, so looking for people with rows would be best.
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Full boards can be reliable, effective damage when combined with an orb enhance, however-- especially if you have rows in addition.
With enhance I think the full board gets... what, around a 3.5x bonus? And that is in addition to whatever rows you may have. A full board still only counts as one row but it's effective.
I mean, that's my trifruit strategy: Ronia -> Hanzo -> DMeta, gives a fully enhanced dark board killswitch using Pandora leads. It's effective! Maybe not quite as high of potential as three 10-row-enhance rows, but still effective.
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Rofl so Luci is the Bmeta/Santa Kirin huh
Also Invade Gigas looks like he could be a good Goemon sub since he has a row and low RCV
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so I might have discovered an interesting team build completely by accident
Yamato-Takeru/Leilan/Chiyome/???/???/Yamato-Takeru
using Leilan then Chiyome and one of the Takerus on the same turn gets you a full board of fire orbs, which you can then explode for 16x. I guess you can fill in one of the blank slots with an enhancer like Shiva or your other preferred fire subs.
You would do more damage using only Leilan and Chiyome, because you could arrange the orbs in a way to get mulitple rows. Looking at that team I suggest looking for a red heartbreaker, like valkyrie or if you're desperate, Gigas. Echidna/Ares are options too.
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(http://i.imgur.com/BApJj3e.jpg)
This would be appreciated if it had happened for wood or fire, but guess who doesn't have gabriel ;_;
It's no joke. I just took Michael from SL1 to skillmax using those dungeons in the span and I'm somewhat tempted to do the same for Gabe even though I don't use him. The Legend difficulty always drops the skillup fully evolved so you honestly don't even need the unevo'd ones. I just fed off 10 unevolved centaurs that I was holding on to just in case.
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okay farming Ifrit is much easier than Castle of Satan since the bosses are pretty much trivial with a delay + poison and I can get Bubpys (although didn't see any this time)
still takes pretty much the whole hour just to use up all my stam + rank up stam so eeh aintnobodygottimeforthat.gif
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okay farming Ifrit is much easier than Castle of Satan since the bosses are pretty much trivial with a delay + poison and I can get Bubpys (although didn't see any this time)
still takes pretty much the whole hour just to use up all my stam + rank up stam so eeh aintnobodygottimeforthat.gif
Then become nobody! It worked for me... :colonveeplusalpha:
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Ten runs into Friday Dungeon expert, still zero Dub-Emelits. Eight out of the ten were Dub-Saphilits. What the fuck?
Speaking of Dublits, what's the status on that update where they were supposed to become skillup materials? Is that active in Japan? Basically, should I save the 11 Dub-Amelits I have now for Apollo, or would the wait be excessive?
It's no joke. I just took Michael from SL1 to skillmax using those dungeons in the span and I'm somewhat tempted to do the same for Gabe even though I don't use him. The Legend difficulty always drops the skillup fully evolved so you honestly don't even need the unevo'd ones. I just fed off 10 unevolved centaurs that I was holding on to just in case.
Use Gabriel he's really cool.
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(http://i.imgur.com/rPLGNoP.png)
3.34mil coins per run
Took under 20mins. I'm sure it'd be a bit faster if I used a thief friend.
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datamined enemies for PAD school:
Dark Dragon Swordsman / Bancho Gigas / Student Council President Lucifer / evo'd Chester / Hera-Ur Senpai
ok
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My first Lv10 Attempt!!
Wave 1 is Hera-Ur with 6mil hp, I blasted through that in 2 turns with a green team. Awoken Bastet OP.
Then Wave 2 is Athena that doesn't "OWARINISHIMASHOU" and jumps straight to starburst under 30% hp.
(http://i.imgur.com/fU7VcBG.png)
SHE SURVIVES WITH A TINY BIT OF HP
(http://i.imgur.com/ZGaXxeJ.png)
ASTAROTH COUNTER KICKS IN AND WE BOTH DIES.
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Luci easily beat Noah on Legend. I could technically handle Mythical, but probably would fail to heal enough and cost some stones. Got the drop anyways.
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Just a tad overkill with the binds there tamabuddy
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I'm not sure how I feel about this clear...
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That feeling when you clear the dungeon with just 3% HP left.
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It feels so good...
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So because PDX is butt, I want everyone to remember the following two things:
11036
30%
(http://i.imgur.com/yl0uEqJ.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/yl0uEqJ.jpg)
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So I've been playing pretty casually and already see a wall approaching. I don't know if that's normal or if I am just that new/bad. I'm rank 10 and just finished Tower of Trials. My orb matching beyond 1-2 combos is basically luck-based, especially if the orbs are spread far apart. I've basically been feeding all of my extra, non-sub monsters to Horus periodically.
I guess my questions begin with what is the best way to level up monsters? I remember in SIF color was important, but is there something I should be looking for when choosing what monsters to use as food?
Should I stick to leveling up Horus, or should I really be leveling up somebody else (like my starter dragon)?
Should I at any point sell monsters instead of using them as food?
Is there any reason to save the low-level Evo material I've been saving?
Is there a simulator or something I can use to figure out orb matching, or is it pure practice/grinding?
Sorry that there's so much being asked. :blush:
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Matching main colors gives more experience, so given a red and a green carbuncle at equal level, Horus will get more exp from the red one.
While Horus is pretty important, you're going to want more HP as time goes on and he's not going to be able to supply all that himself. Your starter dragon is pretty easy to evolve and can supply a little bit of that, as can the other subs.
Questions 3 and 4 can be answered by the same comment: if you don't need that evo material for something, sell it. The exceptions in my opinion would be dubmythlits, keepers of rainbow/gold, <color> dragon fruit, angelits/devilits, or jewels. If you're low on coins, regular monsters can be sold too, though I'd prefer feeding them to each other for more yield when fed to something you're actually using.
And combos just come through practice. For Horus in particular you'll want to eventually be able to do four combos in a turn, because he needs four colors to activate his leader skill. If your screen is small, maybe consider a stylus?
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Is there a simulator or something I can use to figure out orb matching, or is it pure practice/grinding?
This actually exists!
http://pad.dawnglare.com/ (http://pad.dawnglare.com/)
The downside is that you most likely have to use a mouse which is nowhere near the same feeling, but it's very adjustable and customizable, and you can even pass off replays to your friends and vice versa.
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(http://i.imgur.com/02MIUlv.jpg)
put a damn asterisk on haku
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put a damn asterisk on haku
done BV
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This actually exists!
http://pad.dawnglare.com/ (http://pad.dawnglare.com/)
The downside is that you most likely have to use a mouse which is nowhere near the same feeling, but it's very adjustable and customizable, and you can even pass off replays to your friends and vice versa.
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Oh, I should actually use this on my tablet. Thanks fertilizer!
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I just came extremely close to clearing True Endless Corridors with Gabriel. I dropped Athena down to less than 5% with all of my skills up before I died, and if I had gotten past her and my board wasn't unusually bad for some reason I should have swept through Hera and Zeus without getting touched. If I had a +297 Sun Quan friend instead of I&I I'm pretty certain I would've had it. Waiting warmly for Sun Quan friends.
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Jeebus, when does exp multiplier increased rate start? I have a shit load of ehn mats that's filling up my boxes. I can practically hypermax my new Ronia now.
So I've been playing pretty casually and already see a wall approaching. I don't know if that's normal or if I am just that new/bad. I'm rank 10 and just finished Tower of Trials. My orb matching beyond 1-2 combos is basically luck-based, especially if the orbs are spread far apart. I've basically been feeding all of my extra, non-sub monsters to Horus periodically.
I guess my questions begin with what is the best way to level up monsters? I remember in SIF color was important, but is there something I should be looking for when choosing what monsters to use as food?
Take it slow. If you are able to reach the first evo for your subs, which is I assume normal dungeon subs, level them up until you see huge gold costs, then stop right there. Horus takes around 700k exp to level up. There's no way you can reach it at that stage. Just level him up until he gets pretty expensive to do so. The only thing you should know about leveling monsters are:
1. Same color feeding = more exp
2. Higher levels = higher gold to exp ratio; vice versa
3. Gold doesn't matter anymore if you can do Weekend Dungeon. If you still can't, feeding a feed to another feed to level him up, decreases gold spent, and increases exp. Not as much as them separated, but it's cheaper nonetheless(see number 2).1
4. If it's a rare monster of REM-access only. Keep it.
Should I stick to leveling up Horus, or should I really be leveling up somebody else (like my starter dragon)?
Like I said, Horus takes 700k to max. His growth per level isn't that high anyways, so just level him until he gets expensive.
(http://i.imgur.com/CIPfNYt.png)
Yes, level your subs, if they're easy to do. Your starter Dragon should also be good.
Should I at any point sell monsters instead of using them as food?
I assume you're struggling at monster boxes. Sell lower level dupes, and evo mats, since you won't be using them yet anyways, and you need gold. Focus leveling your monsters one at a time until they get expensive.
Is there any reason to save the low-level Evo material I've been saving?
See previous. If they're rarer evo mats, keep it.
Is there a simulator or something I can use to figure out orb matching, or is it pure practice/grinding?
What Chirei posted.
Sorry that there's so much being asked. :blush:
Once you get used to it. Matching orbs for combos become second nature to you. Although Bastet or Isis would've been easier. :V
But since Godfest ended, don't bother rerolling, it's a chore tbh. For now try until Tower of Giants so you can rank up to 90+. If you can get a Healer Girl like Siren, you can practically dominate most early levels.
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ZHAO YUUUUUUN
so lemme get this straight
He has a chance to appear, but he's also not even confirmed to drop when he does?
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(http://i.imgur.com/rKTNWUx.jpg)
Things happen
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(http://i.imgur.com/rKTNWUx.jpg)
Things happen
Yes, but those things that happen, doesn't usually include a 6-straight rare evo mats pull.
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Every one of my pulls out of that machine has been, like... dublits :|
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(http://i.imgur.com/rKTNWUx.jpg)
Things happen
Congrats on using up 4 months worth of Puzzlemon luck at once :V
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wait what
the pad academy dungeon is out but not the rem? ???
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wait what
the pad academy dungeon is out but not the rem? ???
SB collab REM is still going on in JP.
I assume they haven't finished all the pics either. They'll probably slowly release the stats of REM content this week and release it next week?
(http://i.imgur.com/rKTNWUx.jpg)
Things happen
Whoaa 3 jewels O_O
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He has a chance to appear, but he's also not even confirmed to drop when he does?
Guaranteed to appear during the event, as far as I know. Though yeah, he's not a 100% drop.
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Andromeda skillup dungeon is out tomorrow. I have to run it to get Liu Bei skillups, but I still don't have Andromeda. And probably never will at this rate. Almost want to stone for space and just keep all of the fairies I get in the futile hope that I'll have one someday. But then I'll have less stones to try to pull her. I mean, the dungeon will be back, but I have to run it now for one thing and I don't want to have to do it over again for a different thing in the future. Please make skillups transferable, Gungho.
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Andromeda skillup dungeon is out tomorrow. I have to run it to get Liu Bei skillups, but I still don't have Andromeda. And probably never will at this rate. Almost want to stone for space and just keep all of the fairies I get in the futile hope that I'll have one someday. But then I'll have less stones to try to pull her. I mean, the dungeon will be back, but I have to run it now for one thing and I don't want to have to do it over again for a different thing in the future. Please make skillups transferable, Gungho.
I wouldn't bother storing fairies. Odds of getting her are slim and if you do get her, you can just spam surveys.
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stop hacking dood
Thanks fertilizer
wow man
wow
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400 Day bonus + tamadra gift dungeon + sword of flames = I'm now at 45 stones.
Where are godfests.
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Where are Buddhafests.
Buddha Descended! [TAMADRA Series/Enhance Materials Only]
More seriously, wait for the middle of the month and we'll have one. :V
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Wow, Verdandi is kind of scary. It's still many levels from being maxed out, Cuchu isn't uvoed, I'm short eight awakenings, and nothing is skillmax. And it can still probably clear a good chunk of descends on Mythical. The huge HP plus the steady healing from Odin is a rough combo.
For the record, my team is Verdandi/Liu Bei/CuChu/GZL/Godin/Verdandi. So if I want to do a big burst and kill a boss, what should my go-to combo be? Just a Verdandi active? Verdandi+CuChu? I imagine to a degree it depends on the situation, but I don't fully understand the math involved.
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Wow, Verdandi is kind of scary. It's still many levels from being maxed out, Cuchu isn't uvoed, I'm short eight awakenings, and nothing is skillmax. And it can still probably clear a good chunk of descends on Mythical. The huge HP plus the steady healing from Odin is a rough combo.
For the record, my team is Verdandi/Liu Bei/CuChu/GZL/Buddhain/Verdandi. So if I want to do a big burst and kill a boss, what should my go-to combo be? Just a Verdandi active? Verdandi+CuChu? I imagine to a degree it depends on the situation, but I don't fully understand the math involved.
Generally, I just use verdandi.
The sad truth is, if you pop cu chu more often than not you can't get your prongs in. If theres a chance you can make good prongs by popping him, do so though.
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One stone on Tamadra Retreat got my enough awakenings to finish Verdandi and get CuChu two away from done. And I have two baby Tamas left. Now I just need some green experience and some skillups and I'm set.
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I still have baby Tamas from Metal/Gold dungeon. 5* dragon fruit don't like me.
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I'm going to have to start grinding out Thursday Dungeon to skillup Verdandi, so I think I'm going to end up with a lot of them at some point. Usually it's the Dub-Topalits that I struggle with, but I got 15 of them Friday before I got two Dub-Emelits, so I think I'm set. And I don't actually have any baby gold dragons right now.
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lol i have two ronias, two verdandi, and a skuld, so i really need to farm thursdays :V
but none of them are actually that useful for Isis so :derp: (well maybe skuld)
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Have you ever considered that Isis may be the one who may be better suited as a sub on some teams :V
(For real, she's one of very few Skuld subs who can clear binds with ease and also have good stats at the same time)
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Yeah I actually probalby have a totally legit Skuld team
Like Skuld, Reine, U&Y, Andromeda, Isis or something
I don't know what actual benefit It would have over my Isis team though since Isis+Nut is hypermaxed while Skuld & Andro aren't even leveled
also stamina overflow incoming???
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Yosh, I did it!
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Using pretty much all of my stamina on Guan Yinping this weekend (except to pick up the Easter tama), skillup results:
Guan Yinping 2/4
Fire Dragon Swordsman 2/6
Zhao Yun 1/6
Lucifer 0/8 :fail:
Snow White 0/4
At least the first two will possibly go well on ult Goemon? Though I'd probably have to find another fire orb enhance that doesn't heal me out of his 36x range (if I even need an enhance).
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also stamina overflow incoming???
Friend changes as well, get ready to use all those op units you find lying around on people who hate you! : D
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I uploaded a video to show off Awoken Ra. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XbGjWPPX5s)
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go farm your own skillups liu bei >:(
(http://i.imgur.com/x6k2DZX.png)
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go farm your own skillups liu bei >:(
(http://i.imgur.com/x6k2DZX.png)
I like these master dungeons because at least you get a tamadra out of them
I'm probably not gonna drop stones on skilling him up, but I've already gotten several andromeda skillups and zero of those fucking dragon bears
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I haven't even started running the survey dungeon yet because Super Emeralds is around today and Verdandi hungers. And Fat Dragon is up tomorrow so I won't get started right away tomorrow either. But I imagine I'll get there given two weeks. I'll finish him in Wind Dragon Knight eventually if I have to.
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oh shit we got supers today even though there's no event
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Tomorrow as well. Clearly, it's the Facebook Likes event.
NA did something right? :O
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go farm your own skillups liu bei >:(
HDN survey when :(
(http://i.imgur.com/FM1lzL4l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/FM1lzL4.jpg)
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HDN survey when :(
dont worry, the time will come eventually, and hdn will be the boss, midboss, and normal enemy
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wtf i died to blue fairy
the targeting system decided to kill the two chimeras that WERENT ON ONE TURN instead of the two that were and they one hit me WTF
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wtf i died to blue fairy
the targeting system decided to kill the two chimeras that WERENT ON ONE TURN instead of the two that were and they one hit me WTF
the targeting system is fucking stupid, basically
it goes off of what it can kill best and not timer or anything important
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The worst thing is it wouldn't be so bad if you could choose your target order
But you only get to choose ONE. So sure if there's just one enemy on 1 turn then you can focus it. But if there's more and they're on the rightmost side you can only target ONE and then the rest is up to the yolosystem
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I've had so many times in Castle of Satan where Beelzebae could have killed a High Metal Dragon through TPAs and all but he decided to target specifically the other two enemies in the wave instead. Totally ignoring that Byakko, Persephone, and Lilith all have TPAs and can handle everything else on their own, Beelzebub just has dumb moments.
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Hah thanks RDJ I copied your team and got a Tamadra.
So, I have all the parts for a Mithril Edge, which I need for 0-stone Legendary Mask farming, but should I wait for Increased Chance of Skillup before creating it?
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I don't know why I haven't been using Gabriel to S-rank survey dungeons up to now. Took me 87 turns to do blue fairy, but I did it.
Does anyone know what the actual droprates on Winrons are? Where's the best place to farm them? Is it just Master? I've never had to farm a survey dungeon for something other than the boss before so I don't know how the numbers break down.
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I don't know why I haven't been using Gabriel to S-rank survey dungeons up to now. Took me 87 turns to do blue fairy, but I did it.
Does anyone know what the actual droprates on Winrons are? Where's the best place to farm them? Is it just Master? I've never had to farm a survey dungeon for something other than the boss before so I don't know how the numbers break down.
2* star dudes are best farmed on expert from what I hear. At least on 2x anyway.
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whereas to skill up Rommie I have to run Master for a forty percent drop and then evolve it.
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585288704987500544
mother of god...
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L2a4Y2oO0mM/VSNdc1HWt_I/AAAAAAAAA30/5UT2i4hnCTc/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
i never needed mini-dqxq after all it seems :v
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585288704987500544
mother of god...
I wonder if one of his moves will be 'eats a baddie'
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wait blue fairy S rank isnt even 200k it's only 150k god dammit i dont even need to use all 1 stars :colonveeplusalpha:
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Hah thanks RDJ I copied your team and got a Tamadra.
So, I have all the parts for a Mithril Edge, which I need for 0-stone Legendary Mask farming, but should I wait for Increased Chance of Skillup before creating it?
Yes! He's probably even better if you can snag skillups on him.
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585288704987500544
mother of god...
So he's gotta max awaken when fed, right?
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12:28:01 trancehime: Thaws: welp... r310 already O_O
12:31:02 Thaws: pls
12:33:03 Chaore: trance too fast
12:33:04 Chaore: nerf trance
12:35:21 Thaws: yes nerf trance
12:35:58 ArashiKurobara: smacks trance with a nerf bat
So he's gotta max awaken when fed, right?
We don't know for sure. All we know is when we beat him we will get a LOT of Rank EXP.
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livin the jp ezmode life
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kitty power
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kitty power
Lol did you not even bother to activate GZL :v
too stronk
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For Suikama: TPA Attacker/Healer Isis.... B/D! (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585348212598276096)
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585346458972368896
Athena = 3 TPA + Skill Boost + SBR + Green Row
Glasses = God/Healer
No Glasses = God/Attacker
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wait blue fairy S rank isnt even 200k it's only 150k god dammit i dont even need to use all 1 stars :colonveeplusalpha:
Double Chibi Valk + Grodin
Ez Tama :)
For Suikama: TPA Attacker/Healer Isis.... B/D! (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585348212598276096)
Blue Dark Isis, Bind Immune.
No matter how you look at it, she's gonna be in my team. :V
Does Neph go to the same school as Isis? :derp:
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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep Athena is definitely gonna make me break my non-IAP vow again isn't she
edit: oh man new luci is getting a second tpa too that's actually pretty cool if you make him a sub or something http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=285
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Now that's just weird, Chibi Ammy has awakenings and a max level of 70. Is she going to evo into a 5*?
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holy crap 3 tpa
whoa there athena
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Oh god they're all 7 star? I guess some of them will have base forms?
TPA Isis tho aaaaaa :*
Looks like her LS boosts HP too?
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Oh gosh I just noticed the baby carbuncles in the Athena artwork :3 :3 :3 :3
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Triple TPA Athena is pretty goddamned hilarious. Much as I love the glasses though, having her as attacker is pretty amazing for green stuff in general.
TPA Isis tho aaaaaa :*
Looks like her LS boosts HP too?
She appears to work like santa kirin. Flat boost to HP/ATK for attackers/healers, but her multiplier is lower than her actual card to make up for it.
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Triple TPA Athena is pretty goddamned hilarious. Much as I love the glasses though, having her as attacker is pretty amazing for green stuff in general.
She appears to work like santa kirin. Flat boost to HP/ATK for attackers/healers, but her multiplier is lower than her actual card to make up for it.
Same multiplier as B/L Isis I think if you run full Attackers and Healers, same multiplier as B/B otherwise
Oh god they're all 7 star? I guess some of them will have base forms?
Nope. GungHo are putting in MORE minis to pad the REM :colonveeplusalpha:
Now that's just weird, Chibi Ammy has awakenings and a max level of 70. Is she going to evo into a 5*?
Nope.
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Oh god what 3 different 7 stars whyyyyyyyy
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Now that's just weird, Chibi Ammy has awakenings and a max level of 70. Is she going to evo into a 5*?
The 4 Star xmas chibis also had max level of 70.
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Oh god what 3 different 7 stars whyyyyyyyy
gungho hates you
the feeling is mutual
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So assuming the additional boost is 1.2 like Santa Kirin, a healer Isis team of Schoolgirl Isis, BValk, SQ, U&Y, Echidna, and Isis has 20k HP and 3.9k RCV with 0 +eggs.
That's the same base stats as my current team which has three hypermaxes ._.
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So assuming the additional boost is 1.2 like Santa Kirin, a healer Isis team of Schoolgirl Isis, BValk, SQ, U&Y, Echidna, and Isis has 20k HP and 3.9k RCV with 0 +eggs.
That's the same base stats as my current team which has three hypermaxes ._.
I don't read anything about RVC getting boosted by the second part of her LS, though. So it is not 100% Santa Kirin.
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Uh Santa Kirin doesn't boost RCV either...
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Not that healer teams need rcv boosts.
Edit: Also I spent many of my hard-farmed stones on more box space, because THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH BOX SPACE
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so seeing how schoolgirl Isis is better than B/L Isis in almost every way (except for the lack of heart usage) but still likely much weaker than Awoken Isis, did they delay Awoken Isis just to better sell her Schoolgirl form?... >__>
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Not that healer teams need rcv boosts.
Edit: Also I spent many of my hard-farmed stones on more box space, because THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH BOX SPACE
Healer teams don't need a recovery boost, but they want one. Worst case scenario it makes stalling by matching as few orbs as possible easier. Plus, cool healer teams have 50k HP anyway...😉
And I just did the same, finally. Hadn't bought box space in many months but I need room for Winrons and still haven't talked myself into throwing out most of my 16 Dub-Topalits.
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...Sure I'll spend 7 stones to get another 35 box space slots why not it was getting a little crowded anyway.
*still has 40 stones left*
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so seeing how schoolgirl Isis is better than B/L Isis in almost every way (except for the lack of heart usage) but still likely much weaker than Awoken Isis, did they delay Awoken Isis just to better sell her Schoolgirl form?... >__>
I don't think Awoken Isis was delayed, they just hadn't planned on making her yet. They seem to be prioritizing additional evolutions for gods in a pantheon that are less relevant in the current meta (see also: kagutsuchi being the only JP 1.0 god with one as the other four are still in somewhat regular use, ceres/neptune/minerva getting theirs long before hades/venus, etc). Isis and OTG saw far more use than the other Egypt 1.0s until they added their awoken evos.
Also, there's the fact that schoolgirl Isis (much like luci and athena) are the premium "winner" rolls and thus hilariously rare in the gacha; you have a much better chance of getting isis herself in an egypt 1.0 godfest
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Does Isis really see more use than the others? In NA at least I'm pretty sure Anubis and Isis see the least use while Bastet and Horus see the most.
and yeah fuck that 7 star bs goddammit
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Does Isis really see more use than the others? In NA at least I'm pretty sure Anubis and Isis see the least use while Bastet and Horus see the most.
and yeah fuck that 7 star bs goddammit
Ah, but as we know, the NA meta is utterly irrelevant :V
I can only hope the rest of the silver egg offerings in the school rem are usable somehow for something besides very expensive (but cute) skillups. Sadly the ama they revealed doesn't give me much hope
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Considering the amount of outcry there was when Moonstet was released, I'm fairly sure she's pretty popular in JP.
And Horus is actually top-10 most popular leaders in JP iirc. Also the fact that they used him as an example for both Hidden Awokens and the new uvo system.
Dunno about Ra but I wouldn't be surprised if he was also fairly popular, really.
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Ah, but as we know, the NA meta is utterly irrelevant :V
I can only hope the rest of the silver egg offerings in the school rem are usable somehow for something besides very expensive (but cute) skillups. Sadly the ama they revealed doesn't give me much hope
Doesn't Japan still love Horus too?
In any case they probably do now thanks to the awokens.
Also I was hoping for more actual PaD academy cards but nope it looks like Luci, Athena, and Isis are all of them since they are numbered 2014-2017, then Hera is 2018, Gigas is 2019 and before them are the Awoken egypts
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I can only hope the rest of the silver egg offerings in the school rem are usable somehow for something besides very expensive (but cute) skillups. Sadly the ama they revealed doesn't give me much hope
Ama is 4* though, that's mini china girls tier, aka usable but weaker than original in almost every way.
Keep in mind 5* tier minis of Christmas REM gave us 3TPA valk, double row Ronia, finger Luci, TPA LMeta.
Does Isis really see more use than the others? In NA at least I'm pretty sure Anubis and Isis see the least use while Bastet and Horus see the most.
and yeah fuck that 7 star bs goddammit
I think Egypts in general just have that nostalgic factor going for them in the heart of many long-time players, many started off with one of the egypts in the early-game. (For NA does this seem to be China girls instead? It does seem China girls are more favoured around here... :P )
The only relevant egypts 1.0 (by that I mean as in clearing lv10s :v I'm harsh I know) pre-awoken was Anubis, and the only two egypt 1.0s that manages to get into PCGFs in the past year or so were Ra and Anubis.
For clearing descends though, Horus did a fine job so people still used him I guess.
Awoken Horus is actually getting the less attention among the three awokens though, but all of them cleared the recent lv10 (which was arguably easier than usual though) so they're all viable given you have the right team, so it's really just a matter of personal preference, and you have to admit Ra's 100x is very eye-catching.
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I don't know if it's "nostalgia factor" that keeps people playing them so much as "invested tons of +eggs and skillups and don't want to restart from scratch factor". Which is why the awoken evos are nice I guess, they let you keep your investment.
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all of you are wrong forever
the real reason awoken isis is delayed is because suikama wants it
edit: also matsy don't you dare fucking break non-iap on this I WILL PILEDRIVE YOU DO NOT BE ME
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all of you are wrong forever
the real reason awoken isis is delayed is because suikama wants it
i cry evertim ;-;
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and you have to admit Ra's 100x is very eye-catching.
I'm still a little flaky on the maths here. How does he get to 100x?
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I'm still a little flaky on the maths here. How does he get to 100x?
His active is x2 to his x5, meaning he's x10 in reality.
Basically, x25 that is multiplied by x4 when active is used with two.
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His active is x2 to his x5, meaning he's x10 in reality.
Basically, x25 that is multiplied by x4 when active is used with two.
Oh, that makes sense. It's sort of oddly phrased on PDX.
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Oh. The glasses evo changes subtype.
Yamap, you son of a bitch. You betrayed me. You fucking betrayed me.
Next time beekkuriman shows your ass is mine.
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Oh. The glasses evo changes subtype.
Yamap, you son of a bitch. You betrayed me. You fucking betrayed me.
Next time beekkuriman shows your ass is mine.
What'd you expect?
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What'd you expect?
From what people were saying, a functional have glasses button.
But the smell of betrayal. It is too strong.
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On many teams, she's still fine as green healer, so you can glasses it up.
That said, green seems to be at its best with attacker, so I can understand the frowny faces.
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From what people were saying, a functional have glasses button.
But the smell of betrayal. It is too strong.
My bad, I reread the tweet from YamaP, he only said "the parameters are completely identical (lol)".
In hindsight, the lol was probably referring to how the stats can be identical even though the subtype changed from attacker to healer.
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On many teams, she's still fine as green healer, so you can glasses it up.
That said, green seems to be at its best with attacker, so I can understand the frowny faces.
gzl exists which is literally the only reason her attacker form is basically flat better
Most teams -should- have gzl if you're going green prong, so...yeah, essentially her glasses form is just short changed. If GZL wasn't such a staple it'd be completely fine.
It'll be fine if the materials for healer form are easy really.
My bad, I reread the tweet from YamaP, he only said "the parameters are completely identical (lol)".
In hindsight, the lol was probably referring to how the stats can be identical even though the subtype changed from attacker to healer.
Yeah, He didn't really lie.
But the betrayal of yamap is entirely strong.
I will destroy him come beekkuriman. I WILL UTTERLY DESTROY HIM.
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We need more green balanced dudes, preferably High HP ones. Tbh, I don't think I reallly want anyone here. I'm going to collect a few minis and call it a day.
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I'm surprised to find that my biggest want from PAdemy is Gigas. I hated him when I first saw him, but I didn't realize he had the row. I have so many potential teams that really want red Valkyrie on them, and I don't have her and he seems like a very fine substitute.
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I'm surprised to find that my biggest want from PAdemy is Gigas. I hated him when I first saw him, but I didn't realize he had the row. I have so many potential teams that really want red Valkyrie on them, and I don't have her and he seems like a very fine substitute.
Unless I get fire valk between now and PAdemy he's going to be in my monored uriel/wangren switch team.
Because rows.
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Is that team done? What is it? How does it work? That sounds like my team, and I'm excited when someone else uses something like it.
I'd be a little concerned about using Gigas on that kind of team because the negative recovery actually kind of matters a lot, but I guess the extra HP matters a lot too, so that might be fine. Guess it depends on how high the recovery on the rest of your team is, but since Wangren already has zero it's probably not great.
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Is that team done? What is it? How does it work? That sounds like my team, and I'm excited when someone else uses something like it.
I'd be a little concerned about using Gigas on that kind of team because the negative recovery actually kind of matters a lot, but I guess the extra HP matters a lot too, so that might be fine. Guess it depends on how high the recovery on the rest of your team is, but since Wangren already has zero it's probably not great.
It's not done yet because I'm still working on the Athena team, but I already have pretty much everything necessary for it except for Wangren himself (and only because I haven't even tried running legendary seaway yet)
And yes, your Gabriel/Beyzul team was what inspired me to do it :V
The idea is Uriel/Wangren/Red Odin/Belial/xxx/Shiva(Or Ame-no-uzume). With the XXX being either Strawberry Dragon, PADemy Gigas or Fire Valk. But since I don't have fire valk... :derp:
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Uriel doesn't have the massive RCV that Gabriel has, either. I think the largest difference is that Uriel/Wangren will trade a huge chunk of RCV for an even huger chunk of HP.
On the other hand, they have access to Hera-Ur who enhances orbs and has a good awoken skill pool.
If mono-dragon is an option, I can see Uriel/Strawberry Dragon/RGY/Ronia/Wangren/Freyr being good. Freyr's RCV multiplier will help bunches and the team already has bunches of HP because dragons.
Amenouzume is probably the best colead for not mono-dragon because her RCV is pretty high up there.
Obviously I'm just really glad that the suggestion of Gabriel>Beyzul worked out so well for commandercool, because it's something I want to do but I lack the Blue Valk to do it. ._.
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Unfortunately mono-dragon is not something I have access to, the team I have is probably the best thing I actually have access to.
Though getting awoken dancing queen shouldn't be too hard since I have 2 spare fire orbs, I could probably get away with using her too.
The problem is that, with the team I have, I only have two slots to tweak (Belial and XXX) because red odin is a god and wangren is the whole point of the team.
idk, would Hera-ur be better than belial? Put her in as the xxx? Or just stick to PADemy gigas once it finally comes out? Strawberry dragon would do a lot to help the team's rcv problem (especially when coupled with an amenouzume friend) so I'm like ??? wtf do I use ???
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I'd caution you against bringing a version of the team without delay. Your multiplier against bosses won't be quite as high as mine (x12 or x14 instead of x24 or x28) so you may not be able to definitely one-shot everything. But of course bringing delay probably means having less rows, so I don't know what will ultimately work best. Might be a case by case thing.
The closest you can get to a 1/1 version of my team in red is, as far as I know, Uriel/Valkyrie/Wangren/Mitsuki or Yamato Takeru/Echidna/Ame. It has a lot less HP than my team and less overall damage too, but situationally more recovery thanks to Ame, which could matter a lot. I'm interested to hear how it works, since I think Sun Quan is a lot of the reason it's good with his two rows and effectively filling two roles on the team at once with delay and a damage boost. Since I can't think of an equivalent to him your version might be missing some punch, but Echidna's added delay utility might be plenty, and Gabriel has a tendency to massively overkill things anyway so you might still be fine. And Red Odin definitely pulls way more than his weight offensively, so bringing him might be make up for the missing things after all if you can make room.
Obviously I'm just really glad that the suggestion of Gabriel>Beyzul worked out so well for commandercool, because it's something I want to do but I lack the Blue Valk to do it. ._.
Yeah, thanks a ton for suggesting that. It's been great. Valk is probably not 100% necessary for some versions of the team since it can one-shot most bosses with just the blue orbs from Gabriel's active, but she does help a lot. Have you considered it with Siegfried? He's definitely worse, but he might work as a stopgap.
I've been trying to figure out versions of it in other colors, but they seem a lot less stable.
Green can sort of pull it off with Michael and Nazca (lower multiplier and awful awakenings) or Threedia (worse awakenings and extremely unstable leader skill, with the benefit of being MUCH easier to skillmax than Beyzul) but it struggles for rows and doesn't have a great friend leader at least until Awoken Parvati comes out. If the green version even works it might be prong-based rather than rows, and that sounds too unreliable to me. I pretty much have all the pieces for it though, so I might try it. Black and white's leader options are much worse for this, and they don't even really have a switch lead at all as far as I know.
So blue and red are definitely the best options right now, and I prefer blue a lot to red because of the amazing synergy everything has. But I think row stacking is easier in red, so you might be able to get away with less strict subs as long as you can still output damage. Very interested to hear how it goes.
Unfortunately mono-dragon is not something I have access to, the team I have is probably the best thing I actually have access to.
Though getting awoken dancing queen shouldn't be too hard since I have 2 spare fire orbs, I could probably get away with using her too.
The problem is that, with the team I have, I only have two slots to tweak (Belial and XXX) because red odin is a god and wangren is the whole point of the team.
idk, would Hera-ur be better than belial? Put her in as the xxx? Or just stick to PADemy gigas once it finally comes out? Strawberry dragon would do a lot to help the team's rcv problem (especially when coupled with an amenouzume friend) so I'm like ??? wtf do I use ???
Ah that's too bad, mono-dragon would have been cool. Oh well.
This is relatively uncharted territory, so I think you gotta just make everything and swap pieces around until it works. The build might even need to change on a dungeon-by-dungeon basis depending on how much damage you need to sweep bosses. If you're overkilling on damage you can swap in some utility sometimes.
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For the record, how many rows does your team have? The team I have has like 10 of them so maybe I can get away with not having a damage booster.
I mean, Uriel/Wangren/Red Odin already has 5 rows, Ame has a sixth so maybe I have enough wiggle room.
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Eight with an I&I lead (x3 attack) or seven with a Sun Quan lead (x3.5 attack). Or I guess six with Metatron in the rare event that I run her as a leader.
But yeah, entirely possible you can get away with just rows, especially if you have the skill to pull off three rows (which I totally don't). Your base attacks are probably higher than mine too, since I've got all healers and all. I'm not sure how much damage to expect either team to do in a vacuum since I'm used to my damage numbers with like a thousand +eggs.
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shit theorycrafting is really hard
Belial brings me to 8 rows so it's basically the same thing as your i&i team setup with slightly less hp multiplier but more consistent damage numbers ("consistent" since as soon as I take a hit to the face that brings me below 50% and ame isn't up i'm dead) although belial doesn't really count as a "quick" orbchanger iirc (especially since the only way to skill him up in NA is pys, again, iirc)
holy fuck uriel/wangren switch team just seems a billion times worse without fire valk wtf
and echidna as the last slot because she's fucking echidna the saver of asses of any rainbow/fire team
idk I think I can make it work but it's certainly not gonna be nearly as good as your Gabriel/Beyzul.
But fuck if I can make it work it's gonna be an achievement and a half.
(and to think that the only reason I wanna do this is because I want to have one team for every color + a rainbow :V)
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Aside from Beyzul everything you'll be raising up for this team is just a generally good fire guy, so even if it doesn't work you're probably most of the way to having a different, more traditional fire team.
To an extend Awoken Shiva could go a long way toward making this work too. He's probably not going to solve your recovery problem, but he'll probably be a damage truck so you can focus even more slots on utility subs.
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Wait, Threedia doesn't even have rows, he's got a TPA.
I wonder. Michael/Threedia/Liu Bei/Susano/???/GZL?
While Threedia has a really wonky HP range, you have a huge Max HP with Michael to space out your <25% range. After swapping, Susano will bring your effective(?) HP back to a much safer level than the ~8,000 it would be to proc Threedia.
At the end of the day, this is basically a convoluted GZL team with bonus survivability, though.
The most drastic option for Uriel swapping would be to use (ult) Goemon followed by Folklore. Obviously a last resort finisher type of deal, and won't work against combo-shields.
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Wait, Threedia doesn't even have rows, he's got a TPA.
I wonder. Michael/Threedia/Liu Bei/Susano/???/GZL?
While Threedia has a really wonky HP range, you have a huge Max HP with Michael to space out your <25% range. After swapping, Susano will bring your effective(?) HP back to a much safer level than the ~8,000 it would be to proc Threedia.
At the end of the day, this is basically a convoluted GZL team with bonus survivability, though.
The most drastic option for Uriel swapping would be to use (ult) Goemon followed by Folklore. Obviously a last resort finisher type of deal, and won't work against combo-shields.
Beyzul and Wangren also have a TPA, Threedia gets a skillboost instead of his row. Which is kind of nice I guess, but stall teams tend not to need skillboosts very much.
Yeah, I guess Goemon could work with Uriel. But at that point you're dedicating two entire actives just to your finishing blow, which is quite a lot.
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The obvious solution is Uriel/Goemon/Goemon/Goemon/Folklore/Zeus Vulcan which gives three consecutive turns of burst (which is long enough for Folklore to switch back to Uriel) and a delay.
edit: don't believe me it's all a trap without actual combos :c
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saved up 100 stamina + rank up for 3 extreme metal dragon runs, and then accidentally ranked up just before the dungeon opened FML :colonveeplusalpha:
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Possible Chibis for the Academy REM
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(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab7/saitumblr/5_zpskosne9ay.jpg)
(http://i844.photobucket.com/albums/ab7/saitumblr/6_zpsqjw37yz9.jpg)
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Ammy's already confirmed, chibi Ronia, Kirin, Valk, and Hera already exist, and I don't think they'll make the farmables a rem pull
So that means possible candidates are:
Chibi Rodin
Chibi Norns
Chibi Chiyomi
Chibi D/D Yomi
Chibi Fagan
Chibi Vamp
Chibi Zeus
Chibi Shiva
Chibi Ecchi
Chibi Heros
Chibi Horus
Chibi Bastet
Chibi Ra
CHIBI ISIS AAAAA@#GSD$
Considering how Christmas had the entire chibi chinese pantheon, maybe this time we'll get the Heros or maybe even the Egyptians (Isis pls). Heros might be the most likely since they would just act as 5 stone skillups kind of like the chibi chinese were.
Maybe they'll make Chibi Rodin a 6 star where he has triple TPA instead of row :V
Seriously tho つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE CHIBI ISIS つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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and I don't think they'll make the farmables a rem pull
You clearly underestimate their horseshit :V
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Well I guess Vamp and Fagan count as farmables and they could work like they had Chibi Lilith
I swear though if they add CHIBI JAMMER ORB...
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Well I guess Vamp and Fagan count as farmables and they could work like they had Chibi Lilith
I swear though if they add CHIBI JAMMER ORB...
i don't think they'll make more powerful minis
i'd expect like, heroes or other harder skill ups
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Chibi Jammer Orb would be hilarious and I would probably try to find some team it'd fit in.
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active: turn your whole board into jammers
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active: turn your whole board into jammers
Combine with Chester and any heartbreaker for the most convoluted full board ever.
I mean, unless you want to do something like sonia + hanzo + dmeta + drawn joker + dragon shogun. y'know, up to you.
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GET READY FOR PADCADEMY GUYS TOTALLY COMING THIS MAINT :V
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I'm hoping for ult Bodin.
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I'm hoping for ult Bodin.
Don't. He's still gonna be a while.
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http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150402_school_list.html
PAD ACADEMY REM LINEUP
7*
Student Council President Lucifer
Disciplinary Committee Member Athena
Scholarship Student Isis
6*
blazing shrine maiden, chiyome
phantom god, odin
5*
Yamato Takeru
Pandora
Perseus
Sun Wukong
Andromeda
Dimensional Sorceror, Chester
4*
water deity, holy isis
amaterasu ohkami
yamato takeru
pandora
perseus
sun wukong
andromeda
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http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150402_school_list.html
PAD ACADEMY REM LINEUP
7*
Student Council President Lucifer
Disciplinary Committee Member Athena
Scholarship Student Isis
6*
blazing shrine maiden, chiyome
phantom god, odin
5*
Yamato Takeru
Pandora
Perseus
Sun Wukong
Andromeda
Dimensional Sorceror, Chester
4*
water deity, holy isis
amaterasu ohkami
yamato takeru
pandora
perseus
sun wukong
andromeda
Once this rem comes here in NA, I know I won't use the REM, 'cause muneh.
And I've had enough of Chibis, and the fact almost every counterpart of a God has nearly the same exact skills, and stats, which why would you bother spending muneh for it when you the odds are clearly against you?
Oh right, Pokemon.
I'm just waiting for Lu Bu and Pandora ult evo to come.
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Tempted to roll just for Perseus or Chester. Dang, I want them.
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585725832477483008
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585726109251141632
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585726371550388226
Mini Heroes - 4* - 3 orb enhance awakenings of their color
Mini Isis - 4* - 1 water row, 100% bind resist
Mini Chiyome - 6* - 3 TPA
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this is the worst possible result for me help ;;
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/585726371550388226
Dat Chiyome art and awakenings tho. :derp:
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Well, apparently NA doesn't have 7.5 update with stamina overflow and stuff but EU does.
Hmm.
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Well, looks like I'm going to have to pull for Andromeda after all. Sounds like trouble.
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goddammit gungho na >_>
also Chibi Isissssss...
kinda sucks oh well
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I was actually expecting Lil' Isis to be worse than that. Surprised she still has a row. Could see her as a very situational sub on Gabriel.
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Main issue is terrible base stats and she's not a healer. I guess she's still alright for water row teams that use I&I for the bind utility especially if you want to stall vs binds.
But man those chibi base stats
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But man those chibi base stats
literally worse than sb collab rem 4*
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She's not impressive by any metric, but she does have significant utility. I guessed one bind resist and two water enhances or something. She's not going to be a staple sub for anybody certainly, but if I have to pull a four-star silver she's a good one.
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA fuck you na
I had a full stam bar when you went down for maint and we got literally nothing. Amazing.
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Chirei brought this up in IRC but I wonder if JP's throttling NA in specific for some reason, because I can't think of much other reason why EU and KR got the update but we didn't.
I'm pretty sure Antonio and his crew wouldn't still be working there if it's NA's staff being jerks.
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Regardless of where you work if you need a job you'll stay there.
Even it isn't jerkishness, it is incompetence. There should be literally no reason for us to be four months behind like this.
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Completely tired of getting shit on, again and again, because I happen to play the game in the wrong region.
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I wake up, and everything is on fire.
What the hell gungho.
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Well, apparently NA doesn't have 7.5 update with stamina overflow and stuff but EU does.
Hmm.
Oh I don't know about that. Does stamina overflow mean it can exceed the rank's stamina cap? If so, how?
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Oh I don't know about that. Does stamina overflow mean it can exceed the rank's stamina cap? If so, how?
Let's say you have 50/150 stamina. Currently if you refill your stamina with a stone, it will go to 150/150.
However, with this update (that didn't happen for US servers and has been in JP since January), you would get 200/150 stamina.
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rofl tomorrow is even star vault
SURE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE STAMINA OVERFLOW FOR THAT HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I suppose for what it's worth, the data download *did* contain Medjed, Diagoldos, and the red/green bowl dragons.
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I wonder if we're not skipping sonia gran then.
At this rate I wouldn't even be surprised.
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TIL a pack of 85 stones is 5k yen in Japan.
That's a little over $40 right now. So about what we pay for a 60 stone pack.
I am never spending another dime on this motherfucking game.
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now you just have to convince your drunk self to do the same :v
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150402_school_list.html
PAD ACADEMY REM LINEUP
7*
Student Council President Lucifer
Disciplinary Committee Member Athena
Scholarship Student Isis
6*
blazing shrine maiden, chiyome
phantom god, odin
5*
Yamato Takeru
Pandora
Perseus
Sun Wukong
Andromeda
Dimensional Sorceror, Chester
4*
water deity, holy isis
amaterasu ohkami
yamato takeru
pandora
perseus
sun wukong
andromeda
so i was generally right :derp:
heros + hero skillups are kind of nice. It's like the Christmas rem except all of the heros are super strong right now
also all of the gold eggs are pretty good. Heros are good, 3PA chiyome is good, chester is good (even if I already have 3 lol), Rodin will likely be good.
no stuff that's generally useless like chibi luci or chibi yomi or santa genie. Although I guess maybe 7 star Luci isn't the most useful card for most people but hey he looks cool :V
but it will probably be another 4 star shitfest like christmas :V
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now you just have to convince your drunk self to do the same :v
He is not one to be reasoned with ;_;
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Ahahah oh my god Facebook is on fire over this, a level of fire I've never seen.
And for once, I don't feel like defending GHNA against them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
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I am going to hold off on any potential anger against GungHo NA because they always release actual content about 2-3 days after a maint. It was like this with ronia and dmeta uvos, it was like this with the Liu Bei uvo and I don't see why it wouldn't be with stam overflow.
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The biggest point of the matter is that there's no transparency about it. They're just completely nonchalant about it. "Oh, we'll push that update as soon as possible." Yeah, okay, but what happened here? Why is there no reason or even estimated wait time behind it? It worked fine for EU and KR, so what's their damage?
It's their poor business practices that are driving people away, and they're losing money for it. I read all of the facebook comments because for once, the fire felt good and justified. Lots of people are giving up and deleting PAD and others are saying they're not spending a penny until NA gets their shit together.
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Guerilla skillup event, fed 11 things, got zero skillups. Not even remotely surprised or disappointed at this point, completely expected.
So by what authority do we have the whole "skillup rate is 10%" thing? Has that ever been stated or datamined, or is it just a shot in the dark guess? I'd even take carefully-collected data. Does anyone have skillup results recorded over a long period of time somewhere? If I had to guess based on personal experience I think 5% sounds right, although my successes clump together way too much for that to really be likely.
And similarly, does anyone actually feel like they've received 20% skillup successes over time during events? We hear a lot of stories of people's failures and occasional stories of outrageous 10/10 successes and shit like that, but does anyone here get just pretty good results?
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I am going to hold off on any potential anger against GungHo NA because they always release actual content about 2-3 days after a maint. It was like this with ronia and dmeta uvos, it was like this with the Liu Bei uvo and I don't see why it wouldn't be with stam overflow.
Because it's not like a UVO or the like, so much as a direct system update.
I'm honestly considering just quitting to JP forever this time.
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The biggest point of the matter is that there's no transparency about it. They're just completely nonchalant about it. "Oh, we'll push that update as soon as possible." Yeah, okay, but what happened here? Why is there no reason or even estimated wait time behind it? It worked fine for EU and KR, so what's their damage?
It's their poor business practices that are driving people away, and they're losing money for it. I read all of the facebook comments because for once, the fire felt good and justified. Lots of people are giving up and deleting PAD and others are saying they're not spending a penny until NA gets their shit together.
Well frankly I have very little knowledge on how shit actually works so take this with a bajillion grains of salt, but I've seen at least one other game become completely broken just by getting ported to another server, without actually any code changes. The simple act of taking code from one version of the game (which was stable and worked completely fine) and applying it to another server completely broke things over and a lot of work was needed to repair it. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happens - especially considering that PAD requires an internet connect for literally anything that is not "orb matching in a dungeon", which is similar to how the game I speak of worked.
And code is a very, very delicate thing, change one thing and the entire system can break down, and even if it doesn't there may be big bugs down the line so I personally just like to think that the guys at GungHo are simply testing the shit out of the update to make sure it doesn't break down. Which also kind of explains why they don't answer anything (because if this really is the answer, anyone could just come out and say "BUT IT WORKS ON KR AND EU WHY DOESN'T IT WORK HERE YOU SHITHEADS" and the only way to actually explain the why of this would be giving actual technical explanations which nobody wants.)
Sure, wild guess, shot in the dark, could be completely wrong - again, the above statements are to be taken with a grain of salt since all of this comes simply from hearing stuff from people which had to playtest these kinds of occurrences. Maybe I just like to believe in the good of humanity and everything.
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Well frankly I have very little knowledge on how shit actually works so take this with a bajillion grains of salt, but I've seen at least one other game become completely broken just by getting ported to another server, without actually any code changes. The simple act of taking code from one version of the game (which was stable and worked completely fine) and applying it to another server completely broke things over and a lot of work was needed to repair it. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is what happens - especially considering that PAD requires an internet connect for literally anything that is not "orb matching in a dungeon", which is similar to how the game I speak of worked.
And code is a very, very delicate thing, change one thing and the entire system can break down, and even if it doesn't there may be big bugs down the line so I personally just like to think that the guys at GungHo are simply testing the shit out of the update to make sure it doesn't break down. Which also kind of explains why they don't answer anything (because if this really is the answer, anyone could just come out and say "BUT IT WORKS ON KR AND EU WHY DOESN'T IT WORK HERE YOU SHITHEADS" and the only way to actually explain the why of this would be giving actual technical explanations which nobody wants.)
Sure, wild guess, shot in the dark, could be completely wrong - again, the above statements are to be taken with a grain of salt since all of this comes simply from hearing stuff from people which had to playtest these kinds of occurrences. Maybe I just like to believe in the good of humanity and everything.
I roughly agree with this. Sums up my dubious understanding of how this might work.
Finding it hard to get hopping mad about this whole fiasco. Maybe I should be, but I'm not.
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Guerilla skillup event, fed 11 things, got zero skillups. Not even remotely surprised or disappointed at this point, completely expected.
So by what authority do we have the whole "skillup rate is 10%" thing? Has that ever been stated or datamined, or is it just a shot in the dark guess? I'd even take carefully-collected data. Does anyone have skillup results recorded over a long period of time somewhere? If I had to guess based on personal experience I think 5% sounds right, although my successes clump together way too much for that to really be likely.
And similarly, does anyone actually feel like they've received 20% skillup successes over time during events? We hear a lot of stories of people's failures and occasional stories of outrageous 10/10 successes and shit like that, but does anyone here get just pretty good results?
When I had brought that up, it was just entirely a shot in the dark. I mean, I would typically get a skillup roughly 1/5 of the time on x2 rates, so it would only follow that it could be estimated at 20% during that time, and thus a base of 10%. It's anecdotal data at best, but it seems pretty close.
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... is stamina overflow really that significant? At best you're squeezing out one run of Star Vault per two stones.
For this to be a significant difference for Star Vault, you'd be stoning -a lot- for maybe three extra runs. Even assuming you havetime in the hour to run it.
If the runover stamina actually is helping you get more runs in the same amount of stones, then you probably don't have enough max stamina to be considering stoning for stamina anyways.
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I think it matters the most for Tamadra Village, especially if you're in the ~150 stamina range.
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I think it matters more for 50 and 99 stamina dungeons.
More likely though it was a kind of final straw and many more people feel justified complaining.
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Getting the shaft due to missing collabs that we have little chance of getting due to copyright holders in the US potentially throwing a fit (DBZ, hxh, seiya, etc): Irritating, but tolerable.
Getting the shaft because seemingly simple updates take months to make it to our version of the game: Irritating, but tolerable.
Getting the shaft because other versions of the game have more special events / free stones / tamadras / pys / etc.: Irritating, but tolerable.
Always being the last version of the game to get any content: Irritating, but tolerable.
Gungho USA's general lack of timely communication regarding... anything, really: Irritating, but tolerable.
Being charged more for IAP: Irritating, but tolerable.
Delaying a major quality of life update that every other version already has because you're apparently incompetent: Irritating, but tolerable.
All of this shit happening simultaneously? No longer tolerable.
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I guess I'm in the minority then, because I'm tolerating this very, very well. It doesn't even bother me in fact.
Although I have dealt with companies with shittier business practices than this before and seen their work from behind-the-scenes, so maybe I'm just desensitized to this stuff.
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I can't ever blame one person for this kind of thing, it's usually the corporate machine itself that is the enemy.
I do know that bitching on social media (about actual problems) actually works. Marketing has fits about it.
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Getting the shaft due to missing collabs that we have little chance of getting due to copyright holders in the US potentially throwing a fit (DBZ, hxh, seiya, etc): Irritating, but tolerable.
Getting the shaft because seemingly simple updates take months to make it to our version of the game: Irritating, but tolerable.
Getting the shaft because other versions of the game have more special events / free stones / tamadras / pys / etc.: Irritating, but tolerable.
Always being the last version of the game to get any content: Irritating, but tolerable.
Gungho USA's general lack of timely communication regarding... anything, really: Irritating, but tolerable.
Being charged more for IAP: Irritating, but tolerable.
Delaying a major quality of life update that every other version already has because you're apparently incompetent: Irritating, but tolerable.
All of this shit happening simultaneously? No longer tolerable.
Basically all of this.
I can understand the collab drought. It would be REALLY FUCKING COOL if NA had their own exclusive ones in place of them in the frequency JP has theirs, but it'll never happen because fuck you, that's why.
Waiting a month or two for updates is understandable. Throwing everything at us at once to make up for lost time would be overwhelming, but if they actually attempt to pace it at a not idiotic rate it would be FINE until they caught up from the fucking four months we're behind now.
I loathe it when the other regions brag about their free shit while we have to work our asses off to get it here. There's a reason why I've been calling NA PAD hard mode, after all.
Seeing EU get updates ahead of us even though they started a whole goddamn YEAR behind us is pretty insulting, to be honest. It seems like their staff has been pretty on the ball about everything while ours just kinda sit around with their thumbs up their asses.
You can't "deeply apologize" and not make right on it, NA. That's not how apologies work. At least explain situations to us so we at least have an excuse to chew on while we wait. Or even better, you could actually try doing some not-halfassed compensation for once? That facebook contest was pretty disappointing. The entire playerbase showed their support and it was completely ignored. Thanks for the free... pengdra, I guess.
Being charged more for IAP is a double-edged sword. On one hand, our shit's more expensive. On the other, if it was cheaper I'd be more tempted to whale again. But at least I wouldn't feel as bad about it if I could roll a fuckton for like 2/3 the price like JP shows off all the time :V
Delaying major game updates though is just.... ugh, why? I don't know much about making programs work on newer systems but if it works in Japan, all there really should be to it is just localizing the content! How hard is that?! Half of the time there's barely any text to be translated to begin with!
So yeah, having all of this at once is a fucking mess. But at the same time I'm just as annoyed with people who are all "Well you should come to JP then :smug: :smug: :smug: :smug: ." I've already spent 500 days in NA and I've built up everything I have over that time with a ton of patience (...and money) and to throw that all aside to start off at square one is just fucking stupid.
You would think seeing longtime players seriously ditching your game to go to the Japanese version to join in with the ranks of being spoiled rotten would be a wake up call to NA, but I seriously doubt it.
I can't ever blame one person for this kind of thing, it's usually the corporate machine itself that is the enemy.
I do know that bitching on social media (about actual problems) actually works. Marketing has fits about it.
Here's to hoping.
And of course it's not just one person's fault. It's not like we're all holding up pitchforks and demanding Antonio as a human sacrifice, we're just asking for more information. A little more care. Show us the enthusiasm we show you, damn it. This isn't how you run things. Massively (pseudo)multiplayer online games aren't like typical games where you make the game and sell it to consumers and that's the end of it. Games like these are constantly updating and evolving. These kinds of games NEED to be a conversation between developer and consumer. And when one side is doing all of the talking and the other is just staring like a deer in headlights, that's when things stagnate and don't work.
Like right now. Like the past months where our steadily-catching-up pace to the original content in JP has just been ground to a congealed snail's pace.
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/586034919438032896
phantom god, odin - 6* - Triple TPA + Skill Boost + 2x Poison Resist
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Lol I called it
Although only 1 sb sucks and also his stats suck like wtf you call this a 6 star
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Lol I called it
Although only 1 sb sucks and also his stats suck like wtf you call this a 6 star
It's a 3tpa, they generally have some downsides. ESPECIALLY on attack.
He's honestly decent for prong teams, which...now have 3 options in red. Rip!
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Although only 1 sb sucks and also his stats suck like wtf you call this a 6 star
-553 HP, -530 ATK, -96 RCV compared to the 7* Rodin.
And he has EXACTLY the same ATK and RCV as the NORMAL 6* Rodin, but with 1000+ HP.
That's not TOO bad, come on Suecomma pls.
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(http://i.imgur.com/EWlvYQW.png)
There, boom, Horus is now stupidly strong.
Need more HP? Beelzebub, baby.
More RCV? Fucking ronia it up.
Need a bigger burst? Lu bu's got you covered.
And a whole other boggling array of things I can't even imagine right now.
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Oh shit, challenge rush is back. And Bubpy is in two of the easiest (for me) mythicals in the game. And on top of that, the only fifty-stamina option I'm worried about at all is Zeus Mercury. I should be able to clean up.
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-553 HP, -530 ATK, -96 RCV compared to the 7* Rodin.
And he has EXACTLY the same ATK and RCV as the NORMAL 6* Rodin, but with 1000+ HP.
That's not TOO bad, come on Suecomma pls.
but functionally rodin is used as a beef stick with his base stats and triple rows and SB to boost your team at the cost of not having an orb changing active (but still having a crazy strong poison)
then you have this guy who lacks the stats (not terrible yeah but 671 weighted is a huge drop from 865) and the row/SB utility of normal rodin AND he isn't even an attacker, in exchange for triple TPA, who Chiyome also has and is still an orb changer
I dunno I guess I was just expecting better and basically I'd much rather get Chiyome over him because she actually an orb changer and has RCV
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I dunno I guess I was just expecting better and basically I'd much rather get Chiyome over him because she actually an orb changer and has RCV
Yes it's fair to be underwhelmed, and yes he would be much better if those 2 random as fuck Poison Resists were Skill Boosts
but that doesn't make him literally unusable garbage. If you want to talk about shitty chibis, let's talk about Isis and Amaterasu
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i didnt say he was useless though ???
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i didnt say he was useless though ???
i dunno you were calling the stats shit for 6* when they're really not that bad??
i mean SURE coupled with the awakenings it might seem to be a pretty underwhelming package but let's face it
Awoken Hino has 3 TPA and has BARELY higher ATK than this guy. Chibi Chiyome has 3 TPA and barely has 1400 ATK. The only high ATK tripledongers are Liu Bei and the new Athena, everyone else has less than 1600.
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Well I meant more that he's 6 star hard to get from the pad academy rem and yet he's not as good as his regular counterpart.
Like compared to other 6 star chibi rem guys (not actual 6 stars) you have Chiyome who has a huge advantage over regular Chiyome in triple TPA and doesn't lose any stats, Santa Genie who is better than regular Genie in every way, and Chibi Ronia who has double rows and doesn't lose any stats compared to her non ult version.
Then you have Rodin who has worse stats, worse typing, fewer SB, and no rows, all just for triple TPAs which can be done with Chiyome and Hino
Basically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY
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Urd/Kagutsuchi/chiyome/red odin/Valkyrie/Urd. RED PROOOOONGS!
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Also I imagine the actual red odin will eventually get triple prongs too :V
although maybe not, maybe he'll get 6 rows or something :V
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Well I meant more that he's 6 star hard to get from the pad academy rem and yet he's not as good as his regular counterpart.
Like compared to other 6 star chibi rem guys (not actual 6 stars) you have Chiyome who has a huge advantage over regular Chiyome in triple TPA and doesn't lose any stats, Santa Genie who is better than regular Genie in every way, and Chibi Ronia who has double rows and doesn't lose any stats compared to her non ult version.
Then you have Rodin who has worse stats, worse typing, fewer SB, and no rows, all just for triple TPAs which can be done with Chiyome and Hino
Basically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY
Yeah, I'm with Suikama here. The only time I'd use this Odin over Hinokagu is if I really needed the poison. I thought the cost of having awesome awakenings was having a garbage active. Now in addition to said crappy active, he took a hit in stats and the other awakenings. I don't think triple prongs are worth dealling with that, especially if the row version gives so much more.
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star vaulto timu
20 +eggs in 11 runs so pretty good
i'd run it more but I'd be wasting 14 stamina each time because THANKS GUNGHO
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Someone on PF mentioned Android 5.1 support being slightly buggy in KR; I'm not sure if that's accurate or not, but if so that might explain the delay for that here. Now if NA would just say something to that effect...
In the meantime, apparently upcoming carnival with the earth/dark dragon swordsmen in it, at least confirming we got monsters.
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upcoming carnival
oh hi muse
>_____>
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Star Vault at 1:30 pm on a Thursday. Interesting move, Gungho. So if I skip my lunch I get half an hour to play instead of an hour. Good thing I have a desk job so I can stealth-play while I work I guess.
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Averaged 1 + egg a run
Hooray. :|
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hey gungho
(http://i.imgur.com/i4cmEeM.png)
gungho
(http://i.imgur.com/nt7EdVV.png)
wanna know what would have been REALLY FUCKING NICE TO HAVE TODAY
(http://i.imgur.com/X0uvHPF.png)
GEE I WONDER
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yep basically the timing is the most bullshit thing about the whole patch delay. like if it was at any other time it would be like oh well gotta wait BUT NO RIGHT BEFORE A FUCKING STAR VAULT
MAYBE THEY DELAYED THE PATCH ON PURPOSE FOR THIS VERY REASON /illuminati (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRWbIoIR04c)
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Ugh, next challenge descended puts the Flampys at the True Dragon Realm and Zeus-Mercury.
No way in hell I can beat either of them.
The future of my maxskilled Awoken Horus does not seem very bright.
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Ugh, next challenge descended puts the Flampys at the True Dragon Realm and Zeus-Mercury.
No way in hell I can beat either of them.
The future of my maxskilled Awoken Horus does not seem very bright.
You realize that alt castle of satan in the abyss is fairly easy to cheese with athena+gzl sub and generates flampy right
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and generates flampy right
chirei pls
not everyone can be u
also Zeus-Mercury isn't that hard? Well depends on who you have I guess
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I mean I can cheese through Mercury even with dual Beelzebub if that lack of overall damage output means anything.
Huh. I can 0-stone all of these Challenge Descends except... Noah and Dragon Rush? I do much prefer these Challenge Descends because it's consistently 8 or 9 pys for very little effort.
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You realize that alt castle of satan in the abyss is fairly easy to cheese with athena+gzl sub and generates flampy right
I can't use athena as a leader and it's no dupes anyway so I'd have to use mega valk anyway
And I'm not nearly as good as you are chirei.
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You have GZL and Liu Bei you should be able to take on Zeus Mercury just fine
GZL, Bei, Chu, Micheal, Godin
...hmm actually you want some sort of bind heal for Kraken
Pair with a friend Ceres maybe
or use Lmeta sub rofl
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Two stones, 15 runs, 26 +eggs. Not great, not awful. Mis-timed my rankup or I would've been able to save a stone, but whatever. Lost one run to lack of stamina overflow.
Weirdly I had two runs with no +eggs and two runs with four.
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Pair with my Susano for bind immunity, five turn damage resist, and bonus RCV for them poison attacks?
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Averaged 1 + egg a run
Hooray. :|
5 runs, 3 +eggs
:fail:
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Since the next event has 5x technicals why are we even that bothered by today's results?
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There is a reason I have blasted it in the past. I know people get pretty good runs a lot of the time, but seeing stuff like that makes me just call it a waste and feel better doing other things. If you were guaranteed at least one plus even I would try it, but since you're not...
Finally remembered to play again, got my dflower and now have a maxlevel DMeta. Next up I guess is Orochi for that sweet sweet HP.
Have not looked to see what I can do from the coming Descend Challenge, I'll look later or just check tomorrow.
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Star Vault is meant to be a stonesink, I feel. And I use it as such, primarily because it's a more worthwhile use of my stones than rolling a silver or a dupe, you know?
You're not going to see results out of a couple runs-- and it's not even that lucrative until you can run it a bunch of times per stone. So honestly it's really not worth the time or stones until you can at least do 5 runs per stamina bar, I'd say.
Out of 23 runs, I managed 30 +eggs and thus, Parvati +167 -> +197.
That is to say:
3 runs from my initial stam bar, then I ranked up
5 runs from the refill, then stoned 3 times after that for 15 more.
Wasn't as lucrative as last time when I squeezed 40 out, but it's something. I also used the leftover fodder to get my Wood Guardian to close to being able to evolve, which was okay too, I guess. Nothing went to waste.
You know, except for the stamina I couldn't use every stone. :V
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chirei pls
not everyone can be u
I can't use athena as a leader and it's no dupes anyway so I'd have to use mega valk anyway
And I'm not nearly as good as you are chirei.
Abyss Castle isn't no dupes, the regular one is. Also I suggest this because I think it's actually the easiest one of them all. All you literally have to do is just blast with green or light and suddenly you're done - like even a 1 combo tpa will work for all the trash (not advised because you need to keep ammo flowing!), but I know you're way better than that. I feel it's at least worth consideration because the everything else is nice in the meantime even if a single flampy never shows.
Star Vault is meant to be a stonesink, I feel. And I use it as such, primarily because it's a more worthwhile use of my stones than rolling a silver or a dupe, you know?
You're not going to see results out of a couple runs-- and it's not even that lucrative until you can run it a bunch of times per stone. So honestly it's really not worth the time or stones until you can at least do 5 runs per stamina bar, I'd say.
Pretty much this. It's not recommended unless you have a long stamina bar and a handful of spare stones (I try to limit myself to 2-3 per Vault appearance.)
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Yeah once you have a good team then Star Vault is the best place to put your stones.
Being able to do lategame mostly comes down to these things:
Assembling a good team
Evolving/Max leveling everyone
Max skill
+297
And of these things +eggs is the most reliable way to boost your team when you stone after you've rolled a good team. Leveling shouldn't take any stones now since supers appear almost every day. Skill ups are unreliable since it's possible to dump a lot of stones and get nothing in return. Same goes for the REM. Meanwhile stoning for +eggs is basically guarantees progress.
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Even skillups are semi-reliable now with Challenge Rush. And +eggs are great there since you can't cheese through with stones, so in a way stoning for eggs is also kind if an investment in skillups because it means you can eventually clear more challenges.
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Abyss Castle isn't no dupes, the regular one is. Also I suggest this because I think it's actually the easiest one of them all. All you literally have to do is just blast with green or light and suddenly you're done - like even a 1 combo tpa will work for all the trash (not advised because you need to keep ammo flowing!), but I know you're way better than that. I feel it's at least worth consideration because the everything else is nice in the meantime even if a single flampy never shows.
Okay then, as soon as Abyssal Castle of Satan comes up I'll give it a go, meanwhile, I'm farming the shit out of blue fairy for Liu Bei foo-- I mean new pets.
(http://i.imgur.com/ePpnR7a.png)
considering my horus's shrimpventures i don't think this is going to be enough
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I've still barely touched Blue Sprite. Been kind of waiting for boosted drops I guess, and now we got Challenge Rush to contend with... Probably not going to max Liu Bei in one go, but that's fine.
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I've only dumped a couple bars of stamina into blue fairy, but a grand total of two liu bei and one Andromeda skillup monster does not bode well for my mental health
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PAD is part puzzle game and part resource management game. People forget that one of those resources is wisdom score, managed in the form of ability score damage sustained through PAD's shenanigans.
Stones and time to restore stamina, time and stamina to restore stones, and time and Lesser Restoration to restore wisdom score...
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Okay then, as soon as Abyssal Castle of Satan comes up I'll give it a go, meanwhile, I'm farming the shit out of blue fairy for Liu Bei foo-- I mean new pets.
(http://i.imgur.com/ePpnR7a.png)
Now you have to find a Guan Yinping for each one, otherwise they'll get unruly and start a riot in your box
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>VALK CARNIVAL
help.
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>VALK CARNIVAL
help.
you gotta put your foot down man
you gotta make a statement
you gotta tell gungho na what they're doing aint right
you gotta not give them any money
(http://i.imgur.com/YTzhGLE.png)
wow Horus actually looks better in PADZ wtf
he actually looks like an egyptian god instead of a flaming chicken
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Well I meant more that he's 6 star hard to get from the pad academy rem and yet he's not as good as his regular counterpart.
You know, I give up. Apparently people think it's fair to compare the unevolved chibi Rodin to his EVOLVED counterpart.
People compare Chibi Valk favorably to the GodValk because Chibi Valk has a tripledong niche, otherwise she is the SAME as the NON-SUPER UVO VALK. People have literally told me the only reason why they will use GodValk is because she has a God typing so she can go on some teams like Athena.
People compare Chibi Ronia fairly to the Non-UVO Ronia and say that oh Chibi Ronia is decent because she has 2 red and 2 dark rows but you can still use the other one because the real Ronia has skill boosts.
People compare Chibi LMeta to the actual UVO LMeta because the Chibi LMeta actually is the UVO LMeta except with a TPA instead of more skillboosts. They are both unbindable and Chibi LMeta AFAIK has only 1 skill boost instead of 2 and no bind recover.
People compare Chibi Chiyome to the real Chiyome because they are BOTH the UVO Chiyome, and the active is an orb changer, of course you will compare this Chibi favorably, since tripledong is starting to become an actual thing now.
And yet people always seem to hold this Chibi Rodin to his Awoken SEVEN STAR counterpart? Dude, this Chibi Rodin doesn't evolve at all, I think it's too harsh to compare to evolved form.
(http://i.imgur.com/YTzhGLE.png)
wow Horus actually looks better in PADZ wtf
that's garuda not horus :moogy:
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you gotta put your foot down man
you gotta make a statement
you gotta tell gungho na what they're doing aint right
you gotta not give them any money
well i still have stones
i might even get your muse!
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You know, I give up. Apparently people think it's fair to compare the unevolved chibi Rodin to his EVOLVED counterpart.
People compare Chibi Valk favorably to the GodValk because Chibi Valk has a tripledong niche, otherwise she is the SAME as the NON-SUPER UVO VALK. People have literally told me the only reason why they will use GodValk is because she has a God typing so she can go on some teams like Athena.
People compare Chibi Ronia fairly to the Non-UVO Ronia and say that oh Chibi Ronia is decent because she has 2 red and 2 dark rows but you can still use the other one because the real Ronia has skill boosts.
People compare Chibi LMeta to the actual UVO LMeta because the Chibi LMeta actually is the UVO LMeta except with a TPA instead of more skillboosts. They are both unbindable and Chibi LMeta AFAIK has only 1 skill boost instead of 2 and no bind recover.
People compare Chibi Chiyome to the real Chiyome because they are BOTH the UVO Chiyome, and the active is an orb changer, of course you will compare this Chibi favorably, since tripledong is starting to become an actual thing now.
And yet people always seem to hold this Chibi Rodin to his Awoken SEVEN STAR counterpart? Dude, this Chibi Rodin doesn't evolve at all, I think it's too harsh to compare to evolved form.
that's garuda not horus :moogy:
I dont understand why it matters if evoed Rodin is 7 stars. The main thing is you get both at 6 stars, so they're they same difficulty to obtain rarity-wise but one is strictly better than the other.
Also no one is going to compare something with an unevoed form because unevoed forms have no awakenings. So of course people will compare chibi Rodin with his form that actually has awakenings.
well i still have stones
i might even get your muse!
>_>
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I dont understand why it matters if evoed Rodin is 7 stars. The main thing is you get both at 6 stars, so they're they same difficulty to obtain rarity-wise but one is strictly better than the other.
Also no one is going to compare something with an unevoed form because unevoed forms have no awakenings. So of course people will compare chibi Rodin with his form that actually has awakenings.
And you know what? I actually am capable of comprehending that Chibi Rodin's awakenings are ostensibly worse than the real rodin.
But to compare their stats as-is in a vacuum is just stupid
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I mean his stats aren't terrible, but one of the main reasons you use Rodin in the first place is those beefy stats, and you don't get that with chibi Rodin.
Also if they end up giving actual Rodin Triple TPA in his ult then Chibi Rodin is just worse in every way possible. At least the other chibis still have a situational edge over their ultimate counterparts (Valk still has triple TPA, Ronia has extra rows)
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Also if they end up giving actual Rodin Triple TPA in his ult then Chibi Rodin is just worse in every way possible. At least the other chibis still have a situational edge over their ultimate counterparts (Valk still has triple TPA, Ronia has extra rows)
i actually think more rows is more likely for hypothetical rodin ult than tripledong
seriously
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I mean his stats aren't terrible, but one of the main reasons you use Rodin in the first place is those beefy stats, and you don't get that with chibi Rodin.
Also if they end up giving actual Rodin Triple TPA in his ult then Chibi Rodin is just worse in every way possible. At least the other chibis still have a situational edge over their ultimate counterparts (Valk still has triple TPA, Ronia has extra rows)
^Yeah. I mean, if he's not pushing out massive stats, the heck is he doing. For reference people weren't caring about BOdin that much, so they had to buff him. Personally, I'd prefer regular Chiyome over the chibi anyday.
i actually think more rows is more likely for hypothetical rodin ult than tripledong
seriously
I dunno. I'm thinking more skill boosts, unless Yama decides to pull a Hera-Is and give him a bunch of auto heals and orb enhances.
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Triple bind resist :V
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Triple bind resist :V
This sounds suspiciously like what someone else I saw said about it :V
Personally, I'd prefer regular Chiyome over the chibi anyday.
Skill Boost = OP
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This sounds suspiciously like what someone else I saw said about it :V
Skill Boost = OP
Yeah. Sakuya would be so much easier if I had more skill boosts. If I had as many skill boosts on Sakuya as I did on Perseus....oh yeah.
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http://pad.gungho.jp/member/dungeon_series05_cat.html
New Biweekly Dragon series - Cat Dragons!! Hathor skillups!!
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http://pad.gungho.jp/member/dungeon_series05_cat.html
New Biweekly Dragon series - Cat Dragons!! Hathor skillups!!
oh my god these things are adorable
holy fuck na pls i need this so bad
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>all of them no water
Are you serious
Why me ;_;
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>all of them no water
Are you serious
Why me ;_;
because cats hate water hurr durr :colonveeplusalpha:
EDIT:
[12:18:53] <Thaws> pls
[12:18:54] <Thaws> 5種類で、【水なし】など制限が付いている！
[12:19:03] <Thaws> 【水なし】など制限
[12:19:09] <Thaws> など
[12:19:13] <Thaws> It'll be like Mystery Dragons
[12:19:26] <Thaws> no orbs of their weakness colour :v
[12:19:29] <Thaws> don't scare suecomma like that :V
thanks for showing me I missed literally 2 characters that change the entire meaning of the sentence
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http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150410_live.html
New Descend.
such carbuncles. so lewd. much furry. wow
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/ff_series.html
Moar FF news.
That's 18 characters confirmed in the REM. whoa
rip ppl who want a specific gold.
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1/7 on mei come turnover.
... mei i swear verdandi means nothing to me plz forgive ;;
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(http://i.imgur.com/KyJ7DyY.jpg)
Shameful admission: this is actually my first time no-stoning Zeus.
Other shameful admission: I'll probably feed the bup to Bodin.
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Oh right, normal Zeus is there too. Karin hungers.
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http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150410_live.html
New Descend.
such carbuncles. so lewd. much furry. wow
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/ff_series.html
Moar FF news.
That's 18 characters confirmed in the REM. whoa
rip ppl who want a specific gold.
VIVI
GUNGHO PLS I NEED A VIVI
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I love you Challenge Rush! PAD loves to try to deny me of progress, but whenever you're around it can't! Look, I can do puzzles! I have dragons! Gimme things!
Plus this means Athena is up for an extended period of time, so maybe if I have a spare day ir two at some point during the duration I can skillmax her finally.
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Well, UNLIKE my Horus Shrimpventures, Liu Bei DID get skillmaxxed with only 25 Winrons, how about that!
see horus this is how you should behave get your fucking skillups not fucking 1/30 :(
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So I saw that there was a Carnival going on and I decided to bathroom yolo for Reine or something, and uhh...
(http://i.imgur.com/RvbMOvV.png)
uh...
>VALK CARNIVAL
help.
uhhhhhhhh
(http://i.imgur.com/PhTmKMq.png)
I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS I DIDNT MEAN IT I SWEAR
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So I saw that there was a Carnival going on and I decided to bathroom yolo for Reine or something, and uhh...
(http://i.imgur.com/RvbMOvV.png)
uh...
uhhhhhhhh
(http://i.imgur.com/PhTmKMq.png)
I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS I DIDNT MEAN IT I SWEAR
rip chaore
btw double femme is legit for awoken horus just saying
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I bathroom yolopulled and got a genie bathroom pull is a lie.
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Kaitou Kid (http://pad.skyozora.com/news/4/11-%E6%9C%80%E6%96%B0%E5%AF%A6%E8%A3%9D%E5%AF%B5%E7%89%A9%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E5%8F%8A%E6%95%B8%E5%80%BC-(%E5%85%B114%E9%9A%BB%E5%AF%B5%E7%89%A9)), the serial code only character released to accompany the PADWxConan collab, has FIVE sunglasses.
Complete blindness resist LOL
Also School isis is 1.25x hp/atk :o
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Kaitou Kid (http://pad.skyozora.com/news/4/11-%E6%9C%80%E6%96%B0%E5%AF%A6%E8%A3%9D%E5%AF%B5%E7%89%A9%E6%8A%80%E8%83%BD%E5%8F%8A%E6%95%B8%E5%80%BC-(%E5%85%B114%E9%9A%BB%E5%AF%B5%E7%89%A9)), the serial code only character released to accompany the PADWxConan collab, has FIVE sunglasses.
Complete blindness resist LOL
Also School isis is 1.25x hp/atk :o
wait what really?
holy shit x1.56 HP and x25 ATK?!
STRONGER AND MORE HP THAN SANTA KIRIN?!
I NEED THIS
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how much new shit is jp getting at once good god
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PAD Academy, FF collab, and then a whole new set of Ults to be announced new week
it's like a poor kid watching a king's banquet
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PAD Academy, FF collab, and then a whole new set of Ults to be announced new week
it's like a poor kid watching a king's banquet
I don't know man, I'm feeling pretty kingly with my mountain of piis and still-consistent free stones. I don't really care if JP gets more shit, this is still the most generous IAP game I've ever played by a factor of many times. I guess it's perspective and the fact that I haven't been playing as long, but I ain't even worried.
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i just want my isis buffs dammit
つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE SCHOOLGIRL ISIS つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE AWOKEN ISIS つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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(http://i.imgur.com/WcyaO3Nl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/WcyaO3N.jpg)
the heart skyfall never happen (this was a turn before Twinkle Hope turned me into a twinkle in the sky)
But I have a plan. A plan that may possibly make this leader skill (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1459) have a use.
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I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS I DIDNT MEAN IT I SWEAR
Punishment has already been delivered.
I'm probably not rolling this time atleast.
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I don't know man, I'm feeling pretty kingly with my mountain of piis and still-consistent free stones. I don't really care if JP gets more shit, this is still the most generous IAP game I've ever played by a factor of many times. I guess it's perspective and the fact that I haven't been playing as long, but I ain't even worried.
Pretty fucking much
(http://i.imgur.com/O7tKZdr.png)
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I don't know man, I'm feeling pretty kingly with my mountain of piis and still-consistent free stones. I don't really care if JP gets more shit, this is still the most generous IAP game I've ever played by a factor of many times. I guess it's perspective and the fact that I haven't been playing as long, but I ain't even worried.
I've seen worse and better, to be blunt. Like, significantly in both regards.
PAD is really just mid-ground in a LOT of ways, but simply the one that's kept my interest for the longest because of the larger community here.
Pretty fucking much
(http://i.imgur.com/O7tKZdr.png)
Chirei is an outlier, and should not be counted.
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I just blind no-stoned kanetsugu without even having echidna in my party.
Descends should not be this easy.
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Chirei is an outlier, and should not be counted.
seriously dat rank 433
i remember the days when i was the highest rank here v_v
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Rolled once, got Nim, or Nym if you're picky. I...do not think I have a use for him given GZL exists, but maybe if a lowcost worth running shows up I can use him for that?
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uh Nim is a girl :V
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Chirei is an outlier, and should not be counted.
wow
i feel alone and cold and naked
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why dont you ask leilan to warm you up then :V
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why dont you ask leilan to warm you up then :V
no
she is a proud and mighty warrior and would not waste her time hugging a lowly dood
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Go ask your two Red Valks, then :V
or just go ask gigas with his massive body
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uh Nim is a girl :V
On my tiny screen on my phone because I forgot to switch to tablet, everything's an androgyonous blob just about except a few particularly, uh...endowed monsters.
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why does the internet exist just to make me salty (http://imgur.com/73JRosr)
why
why
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why does the internet exist just to make me salty (http://imgur.com/73JRosr)
why
why
rest in fucking pieces bastet.
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why does the internet exist just to make me salty (http://imgur.com/73JRosr)
why
why
i dunno, isis is holding a cat made of... lava or something and seemingly giving no fucks about it, that's pretty badass
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...That Horus Face cannot be unseen.
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OTG lookin manly there. What could they possibly give him with the Awoken evo? More fingers? A leaderskill that goes from 8 past 10?
Maybe something that makes it easier to spend a turn setting up the board, like a shield active or something (rip Kooshy)
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Zeus-Dios always gives me slightly more trouble than I expect him to. I'm not confident enough in my damage to try to blow past Hera without leader swapping, but if I do the switch I lose a turn of damage boost on Zeus to healing back up from his pre-emptive damage, and one turn isn't really enough, especially if I have to use an orbchanger on Hera. This time I just let him get his shield up and tanked hits until I could swap back to Beyzul (much easier now with all the skillups) and stalled for my skills. When I swapped back and blew him away I suspect it only worked because I got a skyfall, without that I think he would've had a sliver of health left and I would have died.
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Pretty fucking much
(http://i.imgur.com/O7tKZdr.png)
And to think you're Rank 430+, the highest of all of the MotK players, you still only have (edit:)420* boxes. I remember the last time I asked you in IRC a few months back, probably last year how many boxes you have, and IIRC it was 400...and now you only increased a bit.
Either you have very good resource management, or you just waste trash low-tier evo mats/resources.
Chirei too cosmic.
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So I just tried to do Heracles descended and everything and like he used sucker punch and I had literally no heart orbs left so I just said fuck it and tried to do as much damage on my skillbound party as I could.
Well I dropped on a 3 heart skyfall that healed about 7900 HP which with my GOdin's 2k autoheal was like 9900Hp and I had like 80HP after the sucker punch so my health was like 998xHP left but million punches deals 10k so I still died and I am legit pissed right now.
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megane athena doesn't give the carbuncles glasses despite the fact that she needs three pairs to evolve what a ripoff :V
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Where do
wethey get Tuxedo Mask from, a descend?
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(http://i.imgur.com/frSoA2ql.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/frSoA2q.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/z7NYMFul.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/z7NYMFu.jpg)
Kotodama confirmed for not completely useless?
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Where do wethey get Tuxedo Mask from, a descend?
It's a code reward, apparently
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And to think you're Rank 430+, the highest of all of the MotK players, you still only have (edit:)420* boxes. I remember the last time I asked you in IRC a few months back, probably last year how many boxes you have, and IIRC it was 400...and now you only increased a bit.
Either you have very good resource management, or you just waste trash low-tier evo mats/resources.
I keep 2-3 of everything, so probably the former. I've been getting a little wasteful lately though I think.
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Kotodama confirmed for not completely useless?
I don't get it. Kotodama halves the damage you take when your life is lower than half, plus switching out Luci halves your life, so it isn't helping you tank hits.
Switching out Luci also halves your RCV, so Kotodama isn't helping you outheal consistent damage.
Hmmm. Is it for tanking some moderate hits when you're just around 40-60% life and don't have any heart orbs? Because I think a heartmaker would be more useful.
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The main thing is that it works on Noah's gravity, where 2x HP/RCV does not. So if I'm somehow out of heart orbs and below 15k-ish health (as happened on my last failed run) Kotodama will buy me a couple more turns, as the 99% gravity becomes a 49.5% and Sacred Sacrifice will only do ~2600.
Also it contributed more stats than Zeus Olympios anyway.
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*sigh*
so i tried out Nut leader in endless
and it was great, like 37k hp and 6k RCV
basically i couldn't die to anything
except satan
STILL CANT BEAT SATAN THIS IS BULLSHIT
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MAX SKILLED MY KALI
NEED 40 MORE +EGGS FOR THAT ASTERISK
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STILL CANT BEAT SATAN THIS IS BULLSHIT
You only need like 65,000 HP to facetank Satan. What HP multiplier do the Egyptian v2 guys have anyways?
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You only need like 65,000 HP to facetank Satan. What HP multiplier do the Egyptian v2 guys have anyways?
You say "only" like it is easy for anyone that is not Lucifer or Beelz to acquire that much HP.
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In a more plausible sense, I can only imagine Lizanami being used for Nut to facetank World's End. She's got a pretty hefty HP and RCV pool anyways, so I suppose she's just a massive statstick in that case.
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What HP multiplier do the Egyptian v2 guys have anyways?
1.35 HP and RCV
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(http://i.imgur.com/FKg1T3wl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/FKg1T3w.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/cWxd20Ml.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/cWxd20M.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/W40kc3hl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/W40kc3h.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/kYRlUqcl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/kYRlUqc.jpg)
:toot:
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I am doing amazing on Liu Bei skillups. Don't kill me, but I'm 4/13. I am probably not going to have to run outside of 2x drops.
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i cant
i cant fucking do it
satan is just fucking impossible
how is this shit possible without some op bs team
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are you saying that 2x Beelzebub is
1) OP, or
2) BS?
It's hardly the first because I fall apart the moment a gravity looks at me and the damage is pretty garbage. BS? Maybe a little bullshit.
Don't Beelzebub and Satan have pretty similar HP levels in TEC? Or have you just exhausted all of your offense by clearing Beelzebub two waves beforehand?
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japan rates beelz in the top tier so that's good enough for me
not to mention you can tank a goddamn world end
beelz boss is actually super easy because you can actually stall on him
satan nope FUCK YOU IN 4 TURNS
i had every active up and this is all i get
(http://i.imgur.com/OjD3Xff.jpg)
although more like i had 3 turns because phone lag just ate one turn for no reason
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I can beat Satan consistently with Gabriel, usually with Kali and Athena, and never yet with Verdandi. He is definitely a bitch, especially because I often have to blow actives on Beelzebub.
Suikama, do you think you could get away with cutting someone for a damage reducer, a gravity, or a delay? I don't know how strict your subs have to be to keep up your damage output, but any one of those should do it hopefully.
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actually i literally just need one card
i dont even need to say who it is
also if i cut anyone then my damage goes down making it even harder
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actually i literally just need one card
i dont even need to say who it is
Schoolgirl Isis? :V
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Schoolgirl Isis? :V
actually that would work too :V
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(http://i.imgur.com/49PyStt.jpg)
i guess i finished a thing due to haku invading on gaia.
alright...
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Looks like another py will be distributed in NA if the next Twitch stream gets enough viewers.
I'm cool with that. Let's watch AntoniOdin, yes?
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I could really use a Neptune friend for Beelz. Either B/D or Awoken would work.
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died to ra despite having healing actives up
im bad at this game
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Turns out that I can beat Zeus Mercury consistently after all. I thought the first floor golem might be a deal breaker, but he gives enough time that I was more than able to burst him down with rows. Used a Metatron friend just in case the golem bound Valkyrie and to help me beat Hera-Is without using any skills. Hermes took forever because he used Hypnos Letter every third turn at least, but again I had Metatron, so I was fine. Zeus himself was not a problem even though I botched by combo on him and only got one row during my big burst, but if you hit him below half he gives you three turns to kill him before he does anything, so I was fine. Took quite a while, but not bad at all. I want to throw the Flampy into Misato like the others, but I guess I should save it for Awoken Horus or Awoken Kagutsuchi at this point.
Now the only thing left aside from the very early easy dungeons is Zhao Yun, who I'm actually much more scared of than I thought. I was thinking maybe I could grind him down with Gabriel after all, but I forgot that he has a maximum combo shield AND status immunity AND blue resistance. His combo shield is too big to plausibly kill him with rows, and it makes slowly grinding him down to kill range implausible. Might have to give Verdandi a try, she might be able to handle him.
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fuccckk im garbage fuckkkkkkk adsasdasd
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is k bby
I am currently 1 for 6 on getting past the first round of Beelzy today :fail:
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DRAGON BLADE WRATHFUL FLURRY
3-6 HITS
ONLY 6 HITS WOULD OHKO ME
OF COURSE HE DOES IT
OF COURSEEEEE
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X meta tama is up. Appears to be a gift dungeon.
Also padcademy confirmed trap, don't be me and roll it :v
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Turns out that I can beat Zeus Mercury consistently after all. I thought the first floor golem might be a deal breaker, but he gives enough time that I was more than able to burst him down with rows. Used a Metatron friend just in case the golem bound Valkyrie and to help me beat Hera-Is without using any skills. Hermes took forever because he used Hypnos Letter every third turn at least, but again I had Metatron, so I was fine. Zeus himself was not a problem even though I botched by combo on him and only got one row during my big burst, but if you hit him below half he gives you three turns to kill him before he does anything, so I was fine. Took quite a while, but not bad at all. I want to throw the Flampy into Misato like the others, but I guess I should save it for Awoken Horus or Awoken Kagutsuchi at this point.
Now the only thing left aside from the very early easy dungeons is Zhao Yun, who I'm actually much more scared of than I thought. I was thinking maybe I could grind him down with Gabriel after all, but I forgot that he has a maximum combo shield AND status immunity AND blue resistance. His combo shield is too big to plausibly kill him with rows, and it makes slowly grinding him down to kill range implausible. Might have to give Verdandi a try, she might be able to handle him.
i was going to say zhoa yun is actually easy
but then you can be me and NEVER GET HEART ORBS and then its impossible
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(http://i.imgur.com/lO4pUZT.jpg)
this game is fucking bullshit
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i've thrown 3 stones on challenge dungeons and lost every single time
i cant tell if im on tilt or having the worst luck ever because both are happening
NOAH: GREEN FAIRY TWICE IN A ROW
ZHAO: THAT DRAGON BULLSHIT ABOVE LIKE 3 TIMES
MERC: SKYFALLS GET HARD TENTACLES
THOTH: SOLAR CANNON BECUAUSE I DIDNTH EAL
VULC: NO HEART ORBS LEFT ON THE BOSS
im so mad at this game i jsut want to delete my account and quit forever
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(http://i.imgur.com/KyJhWnL.png)
yolo roll
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Beelzy Attempt #7 - drag finger off phone screen after one second because I have no idea why aaand dead.
This is just getting silly I'm not getting my green orb today am I :fail:
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Beelzy Attempt #7 - drag finger off phone screen after one second because I have no idea why aaand dead.
This is just getting silly I'm not getting my green orb today am I :fail:
/me has flashbacks of Beelze Challenge mode, shivers a little
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I don't think I have a team that can comfortably take Beelze with a jewel invade.
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you don't know the meaning of Beelzebub pain until you 0-stone it with TAMADRApurin
with a Suzaku invade in there for good measure
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japan rates beelz in the top tier so that's good enough for me
not to mention you can tank a goddamn world end
beelz boss is actually super easy because you can actually stall on him
satan nope FUCK YOU IN 4 TURNS
i had every active up and this is all i get
(http://i.imgur.com/OjD3Xff.jpg)
although more like i had 3 turns because phone lag just ate one turn for no reason
http://pad.skyozora.com/stage/%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%80%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%EF%BC%8112/Lv8%20%E5%9B%9E%E5%BE%A9%E3%81%AA%E3%81%97
New in jp.
Because 6.6mil hp isn't enough they revamped the whole lv8 and made 8.6mil hp satan as boss.
rip
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http://pad.skyozora.com/stage/%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%80%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%EF%BC%8112/Lv8%20%E5%9B%9E%E5%BE%A9%E3%81%AA%E3%81%97
New in jp.
Because 6.6mil hp isn't enough they revamped the whole lv8 and made 8.6mil hp satan as boss.
rip
at least awoken isis should be out by then right? >_>
anyways
cleared Sandalphon, Thoth, and Noah
okay Zhao is actually hard because you have to 6 combo every turn and i'm bad. if only there was some way i could just one hit him hmmmm
Keep flubbing at Vulcan. Fucking combo shields aargggg
Zeus Dios is just a dick and I need to figure out the right team
Didn't try Merc again yet
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Because telling the person who's thinking about quitting that there's a stronger version of something they're struggling with is an excellent idea. :colbert:
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On the other hand, telling them that their favorite mob is going to get stronger and well...?
also 8.66 million HP is almost impossibly difficult with 6.25x attack so I'm boned on this too.
I kinda wish JP would get another "ultimate" vote with Pantheon, Special, and Descend boss and vote Beelzebub all the way.
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Cleared Athena challenge with my Athena Team, also cleared Heracles with the same team because yes.
Now that that's done though, I have absolutely no fucking clue what to do. My ultimate objective is Zeus Mercury because of that delicious Flampy, but goddamn it's going to be hard.
I'm also going to be an asshole and try to do Zhao Yun with my GZL team. farm your own skillups, gzl
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Because telling the person who's thinking about quitting that there's a stronger version of something they're struggling with is an excellent idea. :colbert:
I'm sorry :(
It's ok, JP will definitely flame yamaP's twitter till the end of the world if they don't make them a satisfactory awoken isis.
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I kinda wish JP would get another "ultimate" vote with Pantheon, Special, and Descend boss and vote Beelzebub all the way.
Um, he has an ultimate. It's powerful.
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(http://i.imgur.com/G15YA0G.jpg)
i'm so sorry
On the other hand, telling them that their favorite mob is going to get stronger and well...?
also 8.66 million HP is almost impossibly difficult with 6.25x attack so I'm boned on this too.
I kinda wish JP would get another "ultimate" vote with Pantheon, Special, and Descend boss and vote Beelzebub all the way.
as O4rfish already said Beelzebub is already a ridiculously powerful farmable leader; he won't get voted for the same reasons Athena doesn't get voted already lol
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(http://i.imgur.com/G15YA0G.jpg)
i'm so sorry
as O4rfish already said Beelzebub is already a ridiculously powerful farmable leader; he won't get voted for the same reasons Athena doesn't get voted already lol
welp time to sudoku :colonveeplusalpha:
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Welp, I guess Kanetsugu really is weak as heck, isn't he? Totally rolled him over with Athena/DMeta/GZL/Ecchi/EMD/[BOdin]. He didn't drop, but Masamune did so it's ok. Also the High Dark dropped so technically I own Morning Star now...?
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Welp, I guess Kanetsugu really is weak as heck, isn't he? Totally rolled him over with Athena/DMeta/GZL/Ecchi/EMD/[BOdin]. He didn't drop, but Masamune did so it's ok. Also the High Dark dropped so technically I own Morning Star now...?
the challenge version of his is legend not mythical so ya
also zeus dios beat, thank god for echidna
3 left
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There's no way I'm touching Divine Realm again this time. Last time was way too stressful even when no-stoned and the chance of an EXTREEEEME METAL DRAGON appearing and wasting 99 stamina sucks.
Also I'm not touching Noah because I can't rainbow. That's three Pys I'm not getting this Challenge Descends. :/
I haven't been following Athena for a while, but as far as core REM members, Athena still loves Izanagi, Muse, Meimei, Apollo, and LMeta, yeah? I suppose that's not too different from Beelzebub getting to use Byakko, Persephone, and Ceres, but damn he needs punching power that isn't Lilith to put dents in things.
Am I forgetting staple members for either Athena or Beelzebub? Dark devils are so row heavy that I can't name many Beelz-friendly subs off my head. :c
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Awoken Hades has double prongs and a gravity you'd probably get charged along the way; dunno if Gravis would be too useful but he's at least a heartbreaker and a giant HP stick (and farmable!)
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well i still have stones
i might even get your muse!
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2UBvlBa2N5M/VSsoKzIWTzI/AAAAAAAAA40/t7z6Y0Hu4WU/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
i really didn't mean to be right
i also got rozy.
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Suikama's HP [|___________________________________________________]
rip
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welp time to sudoku :colonveeplusalpha:
A NIGHT SKY FULL OF CRIES
HEARTS FILLED WITH LIES
PAZUDORA - IS IT WORTH THE PRICE?
A WALLET PLEDGED TO THE DARKNESS
NOW I'VE LOST IT, I KNOW I CAN WHALE
THE TRUTH IS JUST BEYOND THE STONES (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A_TXkVo6Tw)
The moral of the story is you can get rare REM pulls if you buy a million stones like trance :V
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The moral of the story is you can get rare REM pulls if you buy a million stones like trance :V
can confirm, got the Isis on the 9th pull :V
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yall are the worst >:(
also zeus merc down
im so glad zeus merc gives water skyfalls. it's pretty much what makes him beatable for Isis
2 left
both i've reached the final boss but ugh COMBO SHIELDS
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yall are the worst >:http://(
:( please don't kill me
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Oof, Zhao Yun hard. Might be able to pull it off with Verdandi with some more tries, but I died to Dragon Shogun twice because I kept trying to beat him without using actives for some reason (that's a bad habit). 3/3 max damage Wrathful Flurries, although I think it only mattered once. Might try it with GZL at some point, but it won't be soon because I'm gonna be busy tomorrow. :V
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I decided I'd give in and raise a beelzebub just because I have so many devils that can work with him (and even more once devil pandora and ult lu bu will be a thing sometime this december), so I dove in and grabbed another green jewel (I already had three but those are saved for parvati sometime next june) so I have enough to ult him. Eventually, once I evo him as he is. :v
The HP should make so many dungeons more bearable. Athena's great, but the RCV just isn't cutting it and even with 30k+ hp it's not enough for some mythicals.
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Did Antonio clear Zhao Yun on mythical. I have to say, it feels pretty impressive now.
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(http://i.imgur.com/vu2RE4V.jpg)
Lv8 Challenge Dungeon 12 beaten; was surprisingly straightforward, but I guess Lv8 tends to be straightforward in general if you have a lead like Awoken Ra :colonveeplusalpha:
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I decided I'd give in and raise a beelzebub just because I have so many devils that can work with him (and even more once devil pandora and ult lu bu will be a thing sometime this december), so I dove in and grabbed another green jewel (I already had three but those are saved for parvati sometime next june) so I have enough to ult him. Eventually, once I evo him as he is. :v
I'm a bit confused. Will you be running with BeelzeRonia for the overall boost or going all out with 2xBeelz? If it's the former, then why not lead with your own Ronia and pair with some other sucker Beelze?
I also highly don't recommend 2x Beelzebub unless you have a gimmicky %heal like G/G Ceres or (gods forbid) a skillmaxed G/D Ceres.
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http://www.appbank.net/2015/04/13/iphone-application/1013186.php
R/B (B/R) Gilgamesh introduced, Fat Chocobo gift monster introduced for players who download the Final Fantasy Portal App.
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I'm a bit confused. Will you be running with BeelzeRonia for the overall boost or going all out with 2xBeelz? If it's the former, then why not lead with your own Ronia and pair with some other sucker Beelze?
I also highly don't recommend 2x Beelzebub unless you have a gimmicky %heal like G/G Ceres or (gods forbid) a skillmaxed G/D Ceres.
I will have something suitable in the future! Awoken Parvati seems promising, at least. Hear me out here:
Beelzebub/Haku/Persephone (or ult Pandora, idk yet)/Parvati/whoever, good RCV preferable, probably Lu Bu or Awoken Hades/Beelzebub
Haku can make fire/water/dark that Parvati can boost. She won't get any dark bonuses, of course, but she's a solid green devil who can make *enhanced* hearts every 5 turns. Pandora can also make hearts, but at Parvati's expense, thus my being on the fence about it (also, she lacks a TPA and Percy does have that).
Parvati's no Ceres, but since she's not far from being +297 she's going to have awesome stats and bring lots of RCV to the table-- as will Pandora and Hades.
That aside, it's just easier for me to make my own Beelzebub because I have a lot of Ronia friends and one Beelzebub friend. :V
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couldn't sleep
(http://i.imgur.com/GRL09V6l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GRL09V6.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Iy8Lh60l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Iy8Lh60.jpg)
never again please
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Parvati's no Ceres, but since she's not far from being +297 she's going to have awesome stats and bring lots of RCV to the table-- as will Pandora and Hades.
Parvati also has two TPA, which Ceres don't have, so she'll punch harder than her too :)
also YamaP's made an advertisement (https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/587431655842807809) for KYMG Studio's advertisement for a new assistant artist. YamaP uses "描いてる" when describing Kirin, even though KYMG already illustrated Kirin before, so we might see a 2nd Kirin UVO, which has Japan in a huge frenzy.
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oh right I suppose the other alternative to using a Ronia would be D/R Lucifer.
The last slot I would recommend Hades because of high RCV and both rows and TPAs. And we need more love for Hades!
If you have a Genbu, I would suggest Genbu+Pandora as a 2/3 dark board but then Parvati also gets shafted.
I'm assuming that when Parvati isn't making hearts for healing, she's making hearts for Persephone to break?
If you roll with Byakko, Pandora, and Hades, the row damage is going to be pretty okay unless you can find a D/R Lucy (or mini Ronia?) to colead with.
Even if the team starts to have more rows than TPAs, it's okay because Beelzebub's orb enhance gives more benefits to rows anyways. He's very much a "jack of all trades" in that regard, so as long as you have a burst option and a way to keep up healing, he works very well imo. Still does acceptable damage when I need it. :V
Running the team simulator suggests that (Beel/Byakko/Pandora/Parvati/Hades/Beel) with a +297 Parvati and Beelzebub friend, the team will have 73,924 HP but a meager 2,651 RCV. I hope I'm just underestimating enhanced heal orbs. On the other hand, the HP will just rocket higher with more +eggs and the RCV is already good for teams that don't have 4x HP.
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That's basically my point. Even if it's not proportionally amazing like what Beelzebub/Ronia would have, it's still very good for what it is.
I'm assuming that when Parvati isn't making hearts for healing, she's making hearts for Persephone to break?
That's the idea, yeah.
Honestly it would make more sense to run TPA over rows simply because that's what Beelzebub specializes in. So Haku/Percy both have one TPA, but Awoken Parvati and Awoken Hades both have two-- and their attack is incredibly good too (at least, Parvati's will be one she's hypermaxed, it'll be 2001). So there's a lot of heavy hitting there, but I have to wonder if Lu Bu wouldn't be a better sub somewhere in there just for the sake of a final punch. 6.25 is 6.25, after all...
And I do have a Meimei on that note, but I've done nothing with her yet. She'd work well with Persephone and Parvati, but she'd kinda shaft Parvati's recovery potential, which would be the whole point of using her over someone else. She'd work well if I dropped Persephone for Pandora, though.
Whichever brings the better results, I suppose. Haku has more punch and more awakenings but less HP/RCV, Meimei works better overall (but with less awakes) with better HP/RCV and Pandora compatibility-- and Parvati can just make hearts from water whenever needed.
EDIT: Alternatively, this IS a place where Lumiel could shine, because she gives orbchanging potential for both Pandora and Parvati at the same time. Though her stats are a little less good than Haku/Meimei on the whole, though-- she is unbindable and that's something. Once she gets an ult I'm sure her usefulness will be much better, since it's awakenings holding her back.
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CHECK IF 7.5 NA IS AVAILABLE. SOME PEOPLE ON NA ARE REPORTING ITS AVAILABILITY ON APP STORE.
Thanks
EDIT: http://on.fb.me/1GHuqgm 7.5(.1) now live for North America
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CHECK IF 7.5 NA IS AVAILABLE. SOME PEOPLE ON NA ARE REPORTING ITS AVAILABILITY ON APP STORE.
Thanks
Confirmed. (https://www.facebook.com/notes/1035304886498103/)
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A ninja update huh. Guess I'll go grab it.
EDIT: Apparently Android users couldn't get it immediately/there were problems getting it - I'm on Android and got it fine, but just a warning in case anyone else runs into any issues. Maybe "stability issues" wasn't as vague as I thought...
EDIT EDIT:
GET FUCKED, DIOS
(http://i.imgur.com/I78vo2m.png) (http://i.imgur.com/LTdTxOO.png) (http://i.imgur.com/2BZ96X6.png)
With that now officially 0s'd, I feel a weight lifted off my shoulders.
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I will do that. Eventually. It's more than possible.
Still, glad to see the update finally. As justified as the rage was it was still annoying to see all over the place. The stamina thing will be quite handy.
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so uh
i cant download the new update
my phone is out of space
even though pad is literally the only app on it (and it says there's 150 mb free...)
rip
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so uh
i cant download the new update
my phone is out of space
even though pad is literally the only app on it (and it says there's 150 mb free...)
rip
Just for reference, the update was about 41MB.
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so uh
i cant download the new update
my phone is out of space
even though pad is literally the only app on it (and it says there's 150 mb free...)
rip
probably has to do with the cache of other apps? clear caches except for PAD (of course)
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I've had to clear everything from apps to cache and now I've finally run out of options
So I transferred my game to my ipod now (RIP my alt account)
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That just sounds really weird. What phone were you using?
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What kind of phone/size of memory card? I'll ask my resident IT guy.
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(http://i.imgur.com/A8e6wXO.jpg)
asterisk pls ty
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^ Grats!
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(http://i.imgur.com/A8e6wXO.jpg)
asterisk pls ty
k
also it's an old Google Nexus S
it technically 'has' 8 gb of memory but it's actually 1 gb + 7gb "usb storage" and for whatever reason i cant transfer pad to the usb storage (well i can but it only moves 50 mb over wow such help)
so the memory usage on my phone now is like
200 mb base stuff
600 mb pad (goddamn)
200 mb free but unusable for w/e reason
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Apparently PAD is flagged so it can only be installed on internal memory. Welp.
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it technically 'has' 8 gb of memory but it's actually 1 gb + 7gb "usb storage" and for whatever reason i cant transfer pad to the usb storage
If your phone is rooted and you're geeky enough to work Unix terminals you can probably symlink the game files to the USB storage. If you have no idea what that just meant you might want get a new phone (or continue playing through your iPod)
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Get a new freaking phone! The Nexus S came out in what, 2008/2009?
Even if you root it's gonna die sooner or later. Used S4s are flooding the market these days. Get one of thems, root it, bada bing.
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You don't even need an S4, I know from experience that an S2 or an S3 runs PAD, browses, and pretty much does all the things just fine.
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Just remember that PaD hates rooted devices to death and back.
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What was that? PAD works perfectly on my rooted phone.
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I've heard several reports that the game hates rooted phones, although come to think of it maybe that's just a thing on the JP version :V
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[16:10:03] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> ugh there is something wrong with the update
[16:10:06] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> or something
[16:10:22] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> every time the music loops on the menu the game freezes for a split second
[16:10:25] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> it's annoying
[16:10:42] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> please tell me I'm not the only one with this issue
[16:10:51] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> i hope it doesn't happen in game too
[16:10:56] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> or that's going to really suck
[16:14:26] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> JESUS CHRIST IT DOES.
[16:14:33] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> WHAT THE HELL.
Please please please tell me I'm not the only one dealing with this. If so I'm going to be super tempted to roll back to Android KitKat, which I never had any problems with whatsoever.
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Try disabling the music, I guess?
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Doesn't matter, it's the game itself freezing up regardless of the sound being on or not, but it's 100% linked to the music loop regardless, because it's happening at precisely the same interval.
You can imagine that this is a problem, considering that PAD's menu music is just a repetitive, endlessly annoying 30 second loop.
But thanks for letting me know that it's just me :negative:
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I'm not on 5.1 so I don't actually know for sure.
But just so we're talking about the same thing here, I'm referring to actually disabling the music in-game, not just muting the app (or device) - is that what you've tried as well?
Edit: Also, I like that they delayed the patch for a week and it's apparently fucking broken anyway.
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I did it.
I finally did it.
I had to whip out every single trick in the book and use every last bit of my arsenal, but I did it.
(http://i.imgur.com/JFmESyU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/cn39f1d.png) (http://i.imgur.com/WoKGls8.png)
Never had Gaia before either, so that's an extra for me!
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I'm not on 5.1 so I don't actually know for sure.
But just so we're talking about the same thing here, I'm referring to actually disabling the music in-game, not just muting the app (or device) - is that what you've tried as well?
Edit: Also, I like that they delayed the patch for a week and it's apparently fucking broken anyway.
Yes, I disabled the music in-game. But I kinda hummed the song in my head in between freezes and it's the exact same interval, which tells me disabling the bgm just turns the volume off on it and it's still there. :V
Hold on, I'll get a video of it.
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I did it.
I finally did it.
I had to whip out every single trick in the book and use every last bit of my arsenal, but I did it.
(http://i.imgur.com/JFmESyU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/cn39f1d.png) (http://i.imgur.com/WoKGls8.png)
Never had Gaia before either, so that's an extra for me!
how many tries
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how many tries
I think I tried six total? At least half of those were literally me feeling out the dungeon since I've never fought Gaia or Super Dios before, and two of them ended up with fattys.
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see I have better things to do with 99 stamina than waste it on a fatty appearing. Especially since Beelzebub slogs through the dungeon much less quickly than Suzaku is likely to be going.
Maybe I should just go at it with BeelzeRonia already. :V
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Yes, I disabled the music in-game. But I kinda hummed the song in my head in between freezes and it's the exact same interval, which tells me disabling the bgm just turns the volume off on it and it's still there. :V
Hold on, I'll get a video of it.
Here we go. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XndDaVcRZMA)
Pay close attention to the news ticker at the top of the screen. It'll do the exact same thing at the exact same time even with bgm turned off.
(god when is Mobizen gonna start recording internal audio and not external, it sounds so horrible)
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see I have better things to do with 99 stamina than waste it on a fatty appearing. Especially since Beelzebub slogs through the dungeon much less quickly than Suzaku is likely to be going.
Maybe I should just go at it with BeelzeRonia already. :V
Hardly a waste to me - I just consider it the practice costs.
I feel like I should have been able to 0s a Rush at this point aside from Together at Last EX, and this was worth it to prove to myself how far i've come with the leader i've used since the very start of the game. Feels fucking good man.
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Don't get me wrong, Byakko is totally getting her share of use in both my Hera Rush and God Rush 0-stones. As a leader? I don't have feel comfortable with dual D/D Byakkos because there's waaay too much focus in ATK and the HP/RCV suffers too much as a result.
On the other hand, I have two more Byakkos that I could probably use as D/R Byakkos. I should look into that again.
I would prefer to go into a dungeon when I'm mostly sure I can 0-stone it. Both Rush clears of mine happened on the first try, which is still incredibly lucky but what can you do? I just can't do that leading with Byakko right now.
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Hardly a waste to me - I just consider it the practice costs.
I feel like I should have been able to 0s a Rush at this point aside from Together at Last EX, and this was worth it to prove to myself how far i've come with the leader i've used since the very start of the game. Feels fucking good man.
Good job dood
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Finally found an use for all of these Ronias clogging my friend list.
Challenge Mode farm ho!
I'll use the opportunity to level up and evolve my Rodin as well, I'll be making at least a few stones from this :V
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Finally found an use for all of these Ronias clogging my friend list.
Challenge Mode farm ho!
I'll use the opportunity to level up and evolve my Rodin as well, I'll be making at least a few stones from this :V
Also: Door Of Light And Shadow farming. They might as well pull some weight I guess. :V
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Congrats Chirei!
I'm not as skilled as that but I guess I cleared another Rush as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/G6ephBX.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/FQ8W9Ap.jpg)
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I care way too much about that stupid asterix. Also not sure if I should max the twins because they have much less utility on Athena teams; which I use Valk and LMeta on all the time.
(http://i.imgur.com/BLPeAT5l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/BLPeAT5) (http://i.imgur.com/yK8jVyil.jpg) (http://imgur.com/yK8jVyi)
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[00:25:26] <~rdj522> Gigas 1/3, Kenshin 0/2, Hera-Elsa bubpy/2, Yoroku 1/3...
[00:25:41] <~rdj522> Luci 0/4
[00:25:41] <~rdj522> sadfasdjfads
I know I don't have a whole lot of room to complain here because Kanetsugu Legend is really easy but still, I'd have hoped to have at least one skillup on Luci in the past month. :( At least I'm getting some on other monsters?
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you're not really complaining about having to skill a Gigas, are you?
I understand the feeling that you never get the skillups on the monsters you want the skillups on, but still :V
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https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/587951867004456961
best friend counter will be reset on May 31st for all PAD JP players.
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I forget, what is the best friend thing again?
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I forget, what is the best friend thing again?
Unlimited availability of friend leaders as long as they are active
Team 1 Leader, Team 2 Leader, Active Team Leader are available
100 Pal Points instead of 10 Pal Points
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Wahaha, get fucked zeus-dios. Zero-stoned your ass with a ronia fire team.
Behold, the power of subbing out belial for lmeta!
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Unlimited availability of friend leaders as long as they are active
Team 1 Leader, Team 2 Leader, Active Team Leader are available
100 Pal Points instead of 10 Pal Points
Oh wow that is actually pretty convenient. No more asking for reloads or having to do so yourself with your bestie. Should be cool when it gets here.
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I care way too much about that stupid asterix. Also not sure if I should max the twins because they have much less utility on Athena teams; which I use Valk and LMeta on all the time.
Big dao is pretty strong when we get the ultimates. However, no longer god.
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I know my irl bestie would appreciate being able to use Beelzebub on demand for 24 hours after each login. How much later did JP get that after stamina overflow? :V
I got my 500 day bonus a few days ago. Sheesh. I feel like I'm wasting my life away playing this.
I've got 25 stones now, but what do I even want to pull with them..?
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I know my irl bestie would appreciate being able to use Beelzebub on demand for 24 hours after each login. How much later did JP get that after stamina overflow? :V
Couple weeks
So we'll get it in august
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Zeus Vulcan down
Just Zhao left
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Cauchemaaaaaaaar >:D
Why do I suddenly forget how to play this game as soon as I hit a combo shield :ohdear:
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Has anybody bothered to do the first few challenge dungeons? Heroes seems like a decent deal, but the metal dragon ones don't seem worth the stamina to me.
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Has anybody bothered to do the first few challenge dungeons? Heroes seems like a decent deal, but the metal dragon ones don't seem worth the stamina to me.
I'm doing them in order, so yeah I've bothered to do them just because.
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You get a stone out of doing the earlier ones, so you may as well
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you get 1 stone for clearing 2heros
also it gives 2 mill coins which is worth it in terms of stam per gold
valk is also worth since 2000 pal points is hard to come by. pal point farming is super slow and it would take 200 runs to get that much normally lol
interestingly enough the next two aren't technically worth as much since all you get is one super king. a single super king is only a little bit better than a worst possible super run and it's also 50 stamina. still a super king is a super king i guess
finally athena gives a +9 tama, which is definitely worth since on average it would take around 200 stamina of SV farming to get 9+s.
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I thought Valkyrie dropped a king, so I guess the oal points are sort of worth it. Already got my gold and Tamadra, those are definitely worth it. The two super kings are on the weak side though. Well, off to do Valkyrie I guess.
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Sure is nice of the EXTREEEEEME Metal Dragon to eat 396 stamina after appearing four times in a row.
Fuck this.
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Sure is nice of the EXTREEEEEME Metal Dragon to eat 396 stamina after appearing four times in a row.
Fuck this.
is there any way you can fit poison onto your team?
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Finally beat this guy with the help of my trusty sidekick!
(http://i.imgur.com/Ql4wmr8.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Wf0mcXk.png)
~All 5 Zeuses 0-stoned with Leilan~
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I've zero-stoned Vulcan in the past; it's not at all hard, but I keep getting screwed by nonsense like not getting any hearts for 4 turns in a row.
(Note: This is not a response to Chirei's post above mine, just a general comment :V)
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I've zero-stoned Vulcan in the past; it's not at all hard, but I keep getting screwed by nonsense like not getting any hearts for 4 turns in a row.
(Note: This is not a response to Chirei's post above mine, just a general comment :V)
Reading this made me go try it anyway.
beat it on the first try ;;
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All I've got left is Stratios. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to beat him at some point, especially with a hypermax Sun Quan friend lead. I just can't justify 99 stamina dungeons at this point in my PAD career because if I do fuck up and die I'm out a ton of time and I have a lot of other stuff I want to be doing. When hypermax Sun Quans start to crop up God Rush is probably the first one I'll try though.
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Reading this made me go try it anyway.
beat it on the first try ;;
okay seriously how the fuck are you guys doing it orz
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okay seriously how the fuck are you guys doing it orz
My ronia team shits all over it*. I can survive every hit except Giga Impact floor 1 (lol), Eternal Flare floor 4 (lol), and High Kick/Graviton Bomb floor 8 (actually a threat if I'm not careful, but I oneshot her anyway).
*(unless I get omega orbtrolled)
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is there any way you can fit poison onto your team?
I don't think Lilith's poison is strong enough to kill Fatty in five turns. :c
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I don't think Lilith's poison is strong enough to kill Fatty in five turns. :c
yeah you need rodin or at least neptune :V
i dunno if rodin tama works
maybe with some plus eggs rofl
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okay seriously how the fuck are you guys doing it orz
yo I look at the page and go nope nope nope :fail:
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Couple weeks
So we'll get it in august
Stamina overflow was December 4 2014
Best friend was February 2015 >_>;;
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So I just discovered my GZL team has no hope in hell of doing Zeus Mercury because with my current setup (swaping out Michael for LMeta since it's the most obvious choice) and a +297 GZL friend, I'm like 30 HP short of surviving Midgard's first attack :colonveeplusalpha:
Somehow I doubt athena can do this, which leaves it to Horus, but I'm not confident anough in my skill to do this dungeon with Horus.
):
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(http://i.imgur.com/2ufGFsS.png)(http://i.imgur.com/DP2W62f.png)
moar awoken bastet propaganda
Hera Rush S-Rank 83k score
And so begins my quest towards S ranking all four rushes...
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/588193719775526912 Emperor of Paramekia (FF2)
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/588194189785038848 Squall (FF8)
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FUCK YOUR TEN TURN BIND DOOOOOOOOD
(http://i.imgur.com/90U5MxU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/lcv4XyF.png) (http://i.imgur.com/aau4XmN.png)
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hDd4C3LWzJI/VS8bG74H17I/AAAAAAAAA54/7milzAKc3LU/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
o/
.....5 more to go.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Ew66Iqu.jpg)
This took about six or seven tries using my Luci team. Can't deal with dark sprite. Can't survive Double Strike if preceded by Double Bind on both leaders. Can't deal with two Cerberuses. And of course player error and phone lag on Leviathan preventing heals from occuring in a timely manner, or the same after Ark Impact, or simply bringing Noah down past 30 accidentally; all can cause the run to fail as well.
The team I used here (https://www.padherder.com/user/o4rfish/teams/#132077)
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Alright, finally got Athena maxed out. I am so ready to never run her stupid dungeon ever again. Now I guess I have to flail at Zhao Yun until I beat him, I'm out of excuses. Probably going to try Verdandi a few more times, I don't have the guts or the desperation to try Kali yet.
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Sometimes coin dungeons have good loot. (http://imgur.com/TG3nwAS)
Went straight to Ariel. I lack the willpower to use them on Supergirl right now but at least Ariel has god typing for Athena.
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Zhao Yun is ridiculously hard. For my money it's among the top two or three hardest descends in the game right now. Ugh. Honestly it might be THE hardest descend, if not Mephistopheles.
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I imagine it's more a combination of "let's have two really dangerous green enemies in a row that can wreck your stuff for no reason"
Even with BeelzeRonia I have trouble with it. Kinda embarrassing, to be honest.
Edit: Godfest announced. Day 1 is Archdemons + 3K with reduced Guan Yu rates. Day 2 is both Archangel series with reduced Odin rates. A lot of complaining about the angels is being had, which I think is sad because archangels are hella cool, too.
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I guess I'll yoloroll on day 1, since I already have all of the archangels (And a dupe gabriel).
Maybe I'll get Lu Bu or Sun Quan and allow myself a blue/dark team. Hell, if I get Sun Quan maybe I'll even follow commandercool's footsteps :V
not happening since I have neither Ruka nor Reine
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Zhao Yun is ridiculously hard. For my money it's among the top two or three hardest descends in the game right now. Ugh. Honestly it might be THE hardest descend, if not Mephistopheles.
Yeah it's the last one for me as well
I can't remember how I 0 stoned it the first time. Probably got lucky :V
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I think the only reason the Archangel/Odin team worked is because I had two Morning Stars in it and was good at cleaning the board on Divinegon; not sure how I would have cleared it otherwise.
Also Suikama if you got the present you can go ahead and remove my alt account from your list if you need to. :V
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no valks during godfest thanks gungho
I think the only reason the Archangel/Odin team worked is because I had two Morning Stars in it and was good at cleaning the board on Divinegon; not sure how I would have cleared it otherwise.
Also Suikama if you got the present you can go ahead and remove my alt account from your list if you need to. :V
oh okay thanks :V
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I imagine it's more a combination of "let's have two really dangerous green enemies in a row that can wreck your stuff for no reason"
Even with BeelzeRonia I have trouble with it. Kinda embarrassing, to be honest.
Pretty much, plus the stacking debuffs from Shogun, then Divengon, then GZL all compound if you go too fast and mean you're basically already dead by the time you get to Zhao Yun. But stalling them out on GZL is tricky because he has a nasty tendency to orbchange away hearts. And Zhao Yun himself is hilariously roadblock to blue teams, like to a ridiculous degree, and his double buffs with truckload of HP are gratuitous. It's a dumb dungeon.
Edit: Godfest announced. Day 1 is Archdemons + 3K with reduced Guan Yu rates. Day 2 is both Archangel series with reduced Odin rates. A lot of complaining about the angels is being had, which I think is sad because archangels are hella cool, too.
Boo, archangels for best pantheon.
not happening since I have neither Ruka nor Reine
Alas poor Gabriel, and his ridiculously strict sub requirements.
I wonder if I could do anything with a second Gabriel. Not sure what the merits of having two are.
Yeah it's the last one for me as well
I can't remember how I 0 stoned it the first time. Probably got lucky :V
If I keep bashing my head into it I'll get lucky eventually I guess. Worst case scenario I have a long train ride on Friday and Sunday, so I'll probably end up buying a stack of stones just to have something to do and hacking away at it until I win. :V
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So Medjed confirmed confirmed to be here on Friday, and for anyone that's even thinking about attempting him - I've heard some commotion that he's supposed to be straight up one of the hardest Mythicals in the entire game at this point. EXPECT TO DIE A LOT
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So Medjed confirmed confirmed to be here on Friday, and for anyone that's even thinking about attempting him - I've heard some commotion that he's supposed to be straight up one of the hardest Mythicals in the entire game at this point. EXPECT TO DIE A LOT
A stronger version of the Mythical Medjed is pretty much in almost every Challenge Dungeon nowadays, so I can attest to how difficult he actually is on Mythical. The main problem is NOT his leader swap, but rather the fact almost all of his attacks have a separate side-effect and the fact that he has a 4-Combo Shield off of 4M HP. 4M HP sounds like it should be easy to burst down but if your team isn't leader-swap proof (that is if Medjed swapping your leaders doesn't gimp your damage) then you will need to stall 3 turns while Medjed is free to do the following:
1. Change all your hearts to jammers
2. 99% grav
3. 8K damage with Blind
4. 11K damage with changing a color to Dark orbs
If you fail to burst him in one shot and get him to below 30% he pretty much kills you unless you can tank a multi-hit 26k total damage attack.
Also Wave 1 has a pre-emptive 99 turn skill bind and Wave 3 has a pre-emptive 5 turn skill bind so have fun with that
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Alas poor Gabriel, and his ridiculously strict sub requirements.
I wonder if I could do anything with a second Gabriel. Not sure what the merits of having two are.
I saw a team build that used two Gabriels on a Rommie team with stall potential. She needs lots of orbchangers, and Gabe creates hearts instead of breaking hers.
Wonder what happens if someone runs Ganesa into Medjed.
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Wonder what happens if someone runs Ganesa for Medjed.
He can't be swapped at all so he couldn't be chosen :v
EDIT:
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/588633000713191424 well here's the new descend guy
Dark / Wood
Type: Devil / Healer
Awakenings: Time Extend / Bind Immune
AS: Sweet Perfume (Max CD: 8 ) - Heals 4000 HP. Recover 4 turns of bind.
LS: Bewitching Sonata - ATK x5 for all attributes when Moonlight Carbuncle and Earth Light Carbuncle are in the team.
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Yeah, but what if you run Medjed using Ganesa as your leader :V
Aaaaa, that guy is seducing our carbuncles! Lol, atk x5 is kinda low if you have to have two fodder slots.
Edit: well, not that low. Assuming you can find friend leads, an unconditional x25 for four mons is like a x16 for six mons, with less utility (but more spot healing).
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/588633000713191424 well here's the new descend guy
Dark / Wood
Type: Devil / Healer
Awakenings: Time Extend / Bind Immune
AS: Sweet Perfume (Max CD: 8 ) - Heals 4000 HP. Recover 4 turns of bind.
LS: Bewitching Sonata - ATK x5 for all attributes when Moonlight Carbuncle and Earth Light Carbuncle are in the team.
Ha! Also, seems really good for a farmable rainbow sub.
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That leader skill is hilarious.
Solid active too, and devil teams always like more RCV.
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What if you had a team of 6 Luci? Full skill seal resist, and about 11 or 12 +RCV eggs total gets you a RCV of more than half of Medjedra's Last Word. I think you'd only have to match hearts plus three other combos to heal through it, and MS spawns 3 hearts.
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Yeah, but what if you run Medjed using Ganesa as your leader :V
You literally can not switch with Ganesha, period.
What if you had a team of 6 Luci?.
I don't think anyone here does :v
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What if you had a team of 6 Luci?
Then you'd probably already be whaling so monstrously, incredibly hard that you'd have a better team on hand anyway, I would guess.
Speaking of gratuitous duplicates, is there any merit to having three of Awoken Ra? Ra definitely doesn't want to stack copies of himself, but is there a team that he works exceptionally well on as a sub? Gis active is kind of specific so that's holding him back, and he doesn't stack up tons of rows or prongs, but he does have some shit.
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The best use for multiple Ras for fast farming with his actives
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Anubis would appreciate Ra's massive stats, defense piercing, and 3 second time boost.
When you have Anubis, anything is possible!
Also what are y'all guys' plans for Medjedra? The first three waves seem really trivial even without skills. As for Isis, I can row-heal a Ronia friend if I field Ceres, so I can stall on Isis almost indefinitely in that case. Stalling on Osiris should also be trivial when he makes 10 heal orbs every other turns.
Let's see how this works out.
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ECsO1MGyeM0/VS_cHxxYrTI/AAAAAAAAA6o/HswL7uZrspI/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
get dioDUNKED
ceres did not actually come in handy for this and i probably should've just brought kushi still
seriously she was a single turn from being ready for god's gaze
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I should have another 5-6 rolls for angels 2.0 REDUX on Saturday. Maybe the game will actually fucking give me something decent this time.
I'm going to have to buy more liquor, just in case.
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That leader skill is hilarious.
Solid active too, and devil teams always like more RCV.
That active made this (probably bad) idea for Ultimate God Rush come to mind: Lucifer/satyr guy/Abyss Neptune/Top Droidragon/Hera-Is/Lucifer. :V
Hera-Is because gravities make everything better, and because I probably need one for Athena (would need to time it such that I leave her alive after both MSes, but still within two turns' kill range because I need to be healed up for Divine King's Warning).
Abyss Neptune for fatty.
Top Droidragon for 100% poison resist in case I get Beelzebub instead, and to help Hera-Is carry me through Dios' last sliver of HP (for the same reason as Athena) because he'll be constantly converting dark away.
Probably wouldn't work but I want to try it eventually.
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"Hmm, maybe I'm overestimating Zhao Yun's ability to handle Gabriel. I should at least give it a shot, it might actually work."
First floor, that fucking white ogre. I forgot about that. Literally the worst enemy in the game. Fuck.
Turn three, dead. FUCK. Going to try again one more time later. I'll bring Metatron and hope the extra row from Sun Quan and extra ton of +eggs since I fought this guy in Izanami means I can actually consistently handle him now. Don't like that I have to bring Metatron because she doesn't help that much anywhere else, but oh well...
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I should have another 5-6 rolls for angels 2.0 REDUX on Saturday. Maybe the game will actually fucking give me something decent this time.
I'm going to have to buy more liquor, just in case.
Don't do it! Put away the credit card!
It always ends in sadness and despair! and hilarity for us watching you drunkroll
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well i almost beat zhao long
but he just had to have a 30% auto kill with no warning shot >_>
i need muse for this dammit <_<
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i need muse for this dammit <_<
You've got less than two hours to pull for muse at 3x rate
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I'm going to have to buy more liquor, just in case.
Spend booze money on stones :V
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i got bored again
(http://i.imgur.com/7r6uTE0.png)
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Weeelllll I just rolled Neptune. A year ago, this would be awful, but that 2x attack for Devil buff and 2x poison resist -aaaaand- a high powered poison of his own is like objectively better than Zeus Stratios, all Heras, and Lilith.
Awesome. I might have had burst issues before, but this should help alleviate it.
Also got an evolved Belial but skillups where? I guess I'm going back to Castle of Satan - shit that was two days ago.
Edit: out of five rolls,
Dupe Chrono Turtle
Red Riding Hood
Neptune
Evolved Belial
Apocalypse
3/5 gold egg rate. Not a bad godfest.
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i got bored again
(http://i.imgur.com/7r6uTE0.png)
Fixed for you
(http://i.imgur.com/GwCEOtF.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/Uh6wJcJ.png)
DIE YOU MONSTER! DIE!
(That's German for "The you monster, the".)
Used Verdandi. Attribute most of my success to the picture-perfect tuning circle I got against the boss that let me get all the prongs and do way more damage than I should have.
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(http://i.imgur.com/0G3aRRh.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ytWblQz.jpg)
super easy descend lol
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What gimmicks are in that descend? For a relatively unconditional 5x attack leader, I wonder if he's a good starting descend.
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STREAMMMMM
ULT CAO DOUBLE TPA
AWOKEN SHIVA
ULT DURGAAAA
...AWOKEN MEIMEI!?
...tfw awoken meimei before awoken isis god fucking dammit
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2 rolls so far: Hattori Hanzo and dupe 6* Astaroth. I want pretty much any 3K god, but unsure if I should continue rolling.
Well, if I get a Ronia that would open up some possibilities.
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What gimmicks are in that descend? For a relatively unconditional 5x attack leader, I wonder if he's a good starting descend.
just the boss really. he does 3 actions in one turn
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3rd roll: goddam Apocalypse. 4th roll: GZL :\ 5th roll DQXQ!
Yeah, that's 5/5 gold eggs.
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Shiva and Meimei are joining the 2x TPA crew.
The fact that Meimei now has Attacker typing (wat) is like
wat
It seems I have a new sub for Ariel. Ariel/Verche/Athena/Meimei/TAMADRAPurin/Ariel?
I was using R/L Suzaku and all before, but since I already don't have any skillups on Meimei I might as well just go straight for Awoken Meimei...
Shiva also has that crazy awoken pool. 2x Skill boost, 2x TPA, 2x time extend, a skill bind resist, aaaand a lol fire orb enhance. Still pretty crazy.
Would probably field Shiva/RL Suzaku/Ronia/Ronia/Belial/Shiva. 11 skill boosts, 5 rows on a 20.25x multiplier? I'm down. Also that 3 seconds of time extensions.
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Shiva also has that crazy awoken pool. 2x Skill boost, 2x TPA, 2x time extend, a skill bind resist, aaaand a lol fire orb enhance. Still pretty crazy.
Would probably field Shiva/RL Suzaku/Ronia/Ronia/Belial/Shiva. 11 skill boosts, 5 rows on a 20.25x multiplier? I'm down. Also that 3 seconds of time extensions.
good luck making 7~ish combos and rows at the same time
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Why would you even bother giving that as a new skill to Awoken Meimei. Not that I care because this second Meimei has gone 0/20.
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Shiva's new leader skill seems wonky for a rows guy.
Not super thrilled Meimei has a new skill after all the trouble I went through to max her. Oh well. She's great.
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Two rows, or even a singular row and some TPAs can't be that hard for 5-6 combos. If I only go for TPAs, I can put off +'ing two Ronias even longer and just up Shiva's ATK.
This should be really helpful in getting TPAs off Ronia boards, at least. (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/threads/apocalypse-verche-tpa-boards.72357/#post-938251)
There's also a pretty straightforward way of 3 rows +6 total combos if you have a perfect 18/12 board. Unreliable even with three board conversions? Yeah. But there's always a method to optimize combos and the team has both TPAs and rows. Should be fine.
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i thought meimei's active would be safe because it's so hard to farm but nope
welp fuck going for skillups just gonna farm piis from now on
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oh wait
if Meimei is getting a third ult, then that means Haku should get one as well eventually, right?
I can field three unique ult Byakkos on the same team~
Awoken uvos seem to have lower max skill levels in general, so you might not need as many Pys as you think. Indians only needed four skill ups, Greeks only need two. We'll have to see.
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>awoken shiva and meimei
RIP bun
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PATIENTLY WAITING FOR AWOKEN HAKU
WILL FARM FOR BADPY NOW
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Oh well that's a third Meimei. Guess this one can become the Awoken.
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Awoken Shiva: no rows, no god type, no dark subattribute, no RCV. It's like he's a completely different creature.
6th roll: Gigas. I'm done rolling. The Hanso could make my Satan team work. DQXQ could teach me how to combo. Dunno if I could even use the others though.
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oh wait
if Meimei is getting a third ult, then that means Haku should get one as well eventually, right?
I can field three unique ult Byakkos on the same team~
Awoken uvos seem to have lower max skill levels in general, so you might not need as many Pys as you think. Indians only needed four skill ups, Greeks only need two. We'll have to see.
Suikama is still waiting on Isis you know...
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Zhao Yun down
All Mythical Descends 0 stoned
and then i died to twinlits because 10 combo skyfall floor one of course
whatever fuck twinlits they'll probably make awoken kali and then all these skillups will be useless anyways
Suikama is still waiting on Isis you know...
:colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha: :colonveeplusalpha:
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But does Suikama have three Isis?
Clearly not devoted enough.
... so Shiva has a RCV multiplier (a hefty one at that!) but no RCV himself. That's total +297 bait. Fuck.
I'm just going to go back to raising Neptune for Beelzebub. Too many things on my plate right now.
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Oh yeah I pulled godfest
1. Dupe Astaroth (as much as I hate the notion of skilling even one up because fuck that shit, I can make both ults now)
2. Sleeping Beauty (Didn't have her before now so I'm cool with that!)
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>awoken shiva and meimei
RIP bun
I'm actually super underwhelmed by both. Awoken Mei is good, but has a lot of downsides as a sub compared to G/L, and that active change is fucking inexcusable.
Pretty as hell and we all know I have the meis to go around.
Awoken Shiva is absolute garbage, and I'm packing my bags to fucking deck YamaP as we speak.
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is he really that bad? I don't think we know how his combo scaling works exactly yet so I dunno. If he only needs like 5 or 6 combos for x4.5 then that's pretty good scaling-wise. Yeah it sucks if you used him for rows but fire TPA has a ton of options now like ult cao, hino, chiyome etc.
he loses all ronia synergy though yeah...
they should probably at least buff him to x5 though since parvati/lakshi got the same buff
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is he really that bad? I don't think we know how his combo scaling works exactly yet so I dunno. If he only needs like 5 or 6 combos for x4.5 then that's pretty good scaling-wise. Yeah it sucks if you used him for rows but fire TPA has a ton of options now like ult cao, hino, chiyome etc.
he loses all ronia synergy though yeah...
they should probably at least buff him to x5 though since parvati/lakshi got the same buff
Honestly, like I keep telling Thaws to with all of these bastets that keep getting changed, I guess I have to deal with it. Shiva isn't a waifu like bastet, literally my only hope is the ronia brigade.
The ronia brigade long has since had a new husbando.
It's 7 combo for 4.5x, with a 4 combo min which is good, but like. Bastet exists. What are you doing. Run her instead. You can get that 4.5x in 5.
Red TPA options do exist, but they're mostly pretty poor. They're substantially smaller than any other color too because red doesn't fucking do prongs.
Half of your best options are in the padcademy rem, so have fun with that.
A team of Kagu, Cao Cao, MiniChiyome, and Urd would actually be pretty strong, honestly.
The main problems are A) Rcv is in GENERAL red's weakness, while boosting it is nice, having a 0 rcv leader is significantly less useful. B) Active still really trash, and awakenings are far far less baller these days C) Bastet. D) Literally anyone with a current shiva team is absolutely fucked. Your team will not work with this ultimate, and you've been savoring for this upgrade because your leader has been trash for a while.
E) Literally your only options for FL are Urd and Shiva.
He's at best mediocre, and at worst frankly an insult to people who were waiting for this.
On a personal level, I'm really frustrated to have my entire team completely made worthless, especially after the amazing upgrades Egypt 1.0 got.
I'm considering just feeding Shiva away if this sticks. So yeah, it's kind of that bad.
also yes everyone use him for rows that was his thing suikama, what the hell
edit: p.p.s Thaws if you compare old bastet to A. Parvarti again I'm going to suplex you, fair warning.
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if people yell at yamap enough he might change him back to rows
i mean it worked for when he tried to make bastet into a juggler
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if people yell at yamap enough he might change him back to rows
i mean it worked for when he tried to make bastet into a juggler
See my only worry is.
He's not a waifu.
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See my only worry is.
He's not a waifu.
Are there any instances where people got mad over non waifus?
I can only think of Izanagi, and well....
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I wonder. Suzaku + Chiyome, Urd+Cao Cao or Urd+Red Valk. All of those peeps have at least one TPA. I don't see why you can't use at least -a- Ronia, since she'll usually net at least three TPAs worth of red orbs.
Bastet has more sheer power, sure. That's what Egyptian does. Shiva has less brute force, but he also provides an auxiliary multiplier. While in this case, by default, it's underwhelming, but they make a huge difference once you start adding +eggs.
A fully +297'd team will sport +1782 in RCV altogether. With Shiva's multiplier? That's +4001. Pretty big considering that Red mobs tend to have inflated attack or HP values - Shiva in this case has inflated ATK and HP.
I'm assuming at 6 combos, Shiva will have a 2.5x multiplier from combos, for a total of 3.75x (14.05x with dual Shiva) Even if you're going up the row route, getting six combos with three rows is totally viable and is what Ronia has been doing since her ult. Former Shiva might have had those extra four rows, but he's also got only 2/3rds of Awoken Shiva's damage by default at that point, and doesn't have a bonus multiplier.
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Are there any instances where people got mad over non waifus?
I can only think of Izanagi, and well....
In fairness, Izanagi's old LS was pretty fucking stupid. Yeah, let's have 12.25x RCV... when you're at >80% HP to begin with. :V
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In fairness, Izanagi's old LS was pretty fucking stupid. Yeah, let's have 12.25x RCV... when you're at >80% HP to begin with. :V
They also waited a long time to fix this for the 3k series- and basically changed all of the ones that did this at the same time.
I wonder. Suzaku + Chiyome, Urd+Cao Cao or Urd+Red Valk. All of those peeps have at least one TPA. I don't see why you can't use at least -a- Ronia, since she'll usually net at least three TPAs worth of red orbs.
Bastet has more sheer power, sure. That's what Egyptian does. Shiva has less brute force, but he also provides an auxiliary multiplier. While in this case, by default, it's underwhelming, but they make a huge difference once you start adding +eggs.
A fully +297'd team will sport +1782 in RCV altogether. With Shiva's multiplier? That's +4001. Pretty big considering that Red mobs tend to have inflated attack or HP values - Shiva in this case has inflated ATK and HP.
I'm assuming at 6 combos, Shiva will have a 2.5x multiplier from combos, for a total of 3.75x (14.05x with dual Shiva) Even if you're going up the row route, getting six combos with three rows is totally viable and is what Ronia has been doing since her ult. Former Shiva might have had those extra four rows, but he's also got only 2/3rds of Awoken Shiva's damage by default at that point, and doesn't have a bonus multiplier.
bastet has far more options altogether, including better support subs and damage options is the main thing, you're more likely to have a good green prong set than red prong.
Especially when you consider what you listed are basically -the- red prong subs. And one of them is a godfest exclusive, and the other a 6* i've been chasing for how long now?
I don't buy into +297 hypes. Actually recovering on shiva sounds nice though, I'll admit.
Not sure I'm buying 3 row 6 combo hype.
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[21:03] <Edible> THIS HAND OF MINE IS BURNING STONES
[21:04] <Edible> ITS BURNING GRIP TELLS ME TO YOLOROLL
[21:04] <Edible> TAKE THIS
[21:04] <Edible> MY LOVE
[21:04] <Edible> MY ANGER
[21:04] <Edible> ANDAAAALLLL OF MY SORROW
[21:05] <Edible> oh it's another belial
whirrrrr
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I am at a wedding the music is terrible I have had too many mojitos and thus I am running Twinlits instead of attempting to be social what has my life come to?
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I am at a wedding the music is terrible I have had too many mojitos and thus I am running Twinlits instead of attempting to be social what has my life come to?
I have played pazudora at every wedding I've been to in the last two years
you should yoloroll again
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I have played pazudora at every wedding I've been to in the last two years
you should yoloroll again
Dont listen to him hes drunk.
this is hardly unusual for him but still
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I have played pazudora at every wedding I've been to in the last two years
you should yoloroll again
FUCKING FAIRLIO
WHY DO I LISTEN TO YOU
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Stalling 99 turns was trivial. (http://imgur.com/C7FdOvg)
Then Medjed picked a really bad sub to swap with considering CDD halves wood damage taken. (http://imgur.com/ld0059A)
(http://i.imgur.com/1N1TOxv.jpg)
Easy mythical.
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Stalling 99 turns was trivial. (http://imgur.com/C7FdOvg)
Then Medjed picked a really bad sub to swap with considering CDD halves wood damage taken. (http://imgur.com/ld0059A)
(http://i.imgur.com/1N1TOxv.jpg)
Easy mythical.
Hmm. I can do a similar team with
Ronia/Persephone/Haku/Awoken Hades/Lu Bu/your Beelzebub.
I wonder if I can handle Legend with that...
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NA STREAM IS UP (http://www.twitch.tv/gunghoamerica/)
We need 14k viewers for a free py so ?ل͜? ༽?ل͜? ༽?ل͜? ༽ ＥＶＥＲＹＯＮＥ，ＧＥＴ ＩＮ ＨＥＲＥ ༼ ?ل͜?༼ ?ل͜?༼ ?ل͜? ༽
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Legend is infinitely harder because Isis and Osiris die too quickly. On the other hand, you don't have a row heal that won't get hit by Isis, so you can't stall out 5 turns on Mythical without Ronia's RCV boost.
If you're incredibly careful about matching green orbs on Legend Isis, you can probably stall on her a while. Make sure to move all the dark orbs that appear during Osiris into the columns and center row.
On the other hand, the extra dark orbs that appear in Osiris will probably just fall and match themselves anyways. It's just luck based.
While Mythical was an easy no-stone rocking this much RCV (http://imgur.com/jzGERQj) because I could fully heal off just the two heart columns, Legend might just be too quick and Medjed will inevitably heartbreak followed by a gravity.
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Well... I'm definitely rocking less RCV due to no hypermaxes on my team and well, Lu Bu. But I may have to do Mythical if it's that much harder. I have Hades for Gravity and Lu Bu for burst, so I may be able to Ronia + Beelz + Lu Bu instakill on Medjed. Maybe? I dunno. :/
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This Legend shit is too hard. (http://imgur.com/awSDXux)
I'm trying my absolute best not to damage Osiris. Considering you have less wood damage than me, you can probably stall on Mythical Isis a little longer if you can heal out Ronia's bind.
Medjedra's leader swap is preemptive, so if Byakko gets brought to the leader position you don't have any blues to proc her. Just be careful.
If you just want to do this once to uvo Bastet or something, I could recommend just stoning on Mythical sometime (preferably after Isis's fire-bind) just to clear that 99 turn bind. Everything is pretty trivial when you can actually use skills.
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My full intention is to just stall out the switch. Hopefully he swaps me to Hades so I can just tank the hits easier, but yeah >_o
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Does anyone know if using Folklore will work before Medjedra's leader switch wears off? You can probably YOLO with Folklore+Ronia+Beelzebub+Lu Bu (in that order) before Medjed puts the combo shield up? Also that lol 20% of skill bind resist.
If you have a non-red row healer, even if it's not a devil, you could take out Hades and further reduce the chances of chipping Isis down. The sooner you can get Ronia's RCV multiplier back up, the better, right?
Ronia/Persephone/Lu Bu/Byakko/(healer)/Beelzebub is the best I got.
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Did it! Legend is pretty stupid easy with Roniabub if you just stall on Isis if your only green user is Awoken Hades, and I took advantage of Osiris' row/column changes to get rid of fire and dark orbs so I didn't kill him too soon. :v
No drop though. :(
I think I might be able to do Mythical now that I look at it. Isis may be rough because she sometimes rips you off on hearts though...
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So something that was brought up on PF in their "hey here's the stream" thread: This is the official site for EU. (http://pad.gungho.jp/eu/pad/) Notice that it specifically has a .jp domain.
The comment brought up in said thread was that "there actually aren't any Gungho EU offices". There does seem to be a Gravity office in France (http://www.gungho.co.jp/english/company/group.html) but none for "Gungho Online Entertainment"; there's not one for KR either. This makes me wonder if the huge gap is more on JP's side than the other regions', though admittedly there's not really a way to know for sure unless something gets said outright.
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I'd probably have a lot less trouble if I just took out Ceres. >.>
I suppose you can be a lot more adamant about healing through combos+hearts, and you have a huge max HP buffer to compensate for when you're cheaped out on hearts?
My theorycrafting is shit sometimes.
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well... this was unexpected for a first attempt.
(http://i.imgur.com/JBqAGtk.png) (http://i.imgur.com/6ALSYMM.png)
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What is this feeling I have. This addictive feeling of "1 more puzzle" and wasting the hours away with little care. Could it be that I'm actually having fun playing a video game?!
I'm happy and yet distraught. I'm happy because I've finally flipped the switch and can now proc Horus at a pretty reliable rate. The bad news is that it takes me so long to plan out the "routes" that the dungeon is taking me about half-an-hour per run. Seriously I beat the dragons and I return to the title screen with a full stamina bar. Worst part is I'm only rank 20 (very casual) so I have like 130+ ranks of this grind to go too. :persona:
Also a question: what's the best way to build a team early on? Is it through the REM, the PAL machine, the tougher dungeons, or what? I'm especially curious because I can easily see how I will one day have teams that are way below my cost cap if I keep grinding these same dragons over and over.
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Horus is a type of god that can utilize subs from whatever source, really. Heavy hitters like Beelzebub and Athena are obtainable without using the REM, clerics like Alraune and Archangel can be obtained from the Normal Dungeon progression.
With the exception of Beelz, Athena, and possibly dark Fagan (all three of which are pretty mid-late game) the most optimal things will usually only be obtainable from the REM. Metatron, Kali, Odin, time extenders like Yomi or even Chrono Turtle. As long as you find yourself a super burst option (Neptune or Green Zhuge Liang, for example) and have each color ready, Horus just punches holes in everything. Because he doesn't really want to use orb changers, he has room for every other type of sub!
Right now, I think it would be ideal to race for rank 80 as soon as you can, where you can buy access to useful "survey dungeons" and high experience dungeons using coins. Having Hera from the Normal dungeons used to be a common first goal for Horus, but there are so many dark options ready now so ???
Save up stones. If you're really fond of Horus, you can drop them on Japanese godfests for Kushi or Yomi; Indian for Indra; Greco-Roman for Neptune. Kali, Zhuge Liang, Metatron, and Odin can usually be obtained on any godfest.
Three Kingdoms, Heroes, Greek v2, China girls are not usually helpful for Horus specifically, but are great for other purposes. Archdevils and Archangels, with the exception of commandercool and Gabriel, are kind of unexplored territory and not helpful for Horus. Prioritize as you like.
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'hey it'd be funny if i got shiva on jp since i have miniro and chiyo'
'i want mei though'
'DID SOMEONE SAY SHIVA?'
'shiva'
'shiva no.'
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'hey it'd be funny if i got shiva on jp since i have miniro and chiyo'
'i want mei though'
'DID SOMEONE SAY SHIVA?'
'shiva'
'shiva no.'
[02:07:05] <BunnyDragonJesus> time to dide if game works now
[02:07:09] <BunnyDragonJesus> my goal
[02:07:11] <BunnyDragonJesus> will be a good silver
[02:07:15] <BunnyDragonJesus> to keep expectations low
[02:07:19] <BunnyDragonJesus> thumbelina might be nice
[02:07:50] <BunnyDragonJesus> PULL IS GO
[02:08:14] <Chirei> u dide
[02:08:19] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> silence
[02:08:21] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> u got rekt
[02:08:29] <Chirei> matsy i rekt medjed with skuld
[02:08:33] <BunnyDragonJesus> ....
[02:08:34] <BunnyDragonJesus> i will let
[02:08:35] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> :v
[02:08:36] <BunnyDragonJesus> trance
[02:08:41] <BunnyDragonJesus> announce this one
[02:09:00] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> you got another shiva didn't you
[02:09:03] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> just for irony's sake
[02:09:08] <BunnyDragonJesus> Yes.
[02:09:09] <BunnyDragonJesus> Yes I did.
[02:09:15] <trancehime> gg
[02:09:16] <~Nadeshiko-Matsuri> BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH RIP
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One godfest pull, got Sleeping Beauty. Bleh. Oh well, didn't really want anything specific, just felt like I owed it to angels.
Leader swap skills do work on Medjed. I was able to swap into Beyzul on Legend. So anyone should be able to fuck him up with Folklore after gravity provided you're not skill locked. Pretty sure I can take him on Mythical, I just need to get lucky with my first (40%) lock resist or survive until Osiris with no skills so I can stall it out.
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"Hey MJP do you want to roll for me it better be good"
"Oh sweet it's silver! "
"...."
>Gigas
"....
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..... Well you're making coffee so it's OK. What the hell roll again pulling the dragon arm is your favorite part"
"You sure?"
>DKali
:o :o :o :o :o
Yes, yes that'll do.
Already got a skill up her sister needs to learn how to do that :V
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>DKali
Congratulations!
I been searching for a DKali for the better part of about 7 months!! She still eludes me to this very day, I spent lots of money... all to failure though :D
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(http://i.imgur.com/nDgmuY2.jpg)
Get killed ghostguuuuy.
Had to stall out the skill lock, took forever.
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Belial
Ra
Gigas
Lilith
Berserker Z
At... at least I didn't have a prometheus? :fail:
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You could make a Shiva Rows team!
These Qiao sisters are pretty fun. I think they are making me unlearn my Luci laziness.
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Had to stall out the skill lock, took forever.
I don't think I could mentally take stalling out the skill lock. It was already bad enough trying to grind down Osiris and Medjed with a blue team.
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It was easier here than it would be elsewhere since Isis and Osiris are massive heartmakers. But yeah, not really recommended unless you have to.
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10 rolls 7 golds
Ronia (3rd)
LKali (2nd)
BlOnia
Haku (3rd)
Meatball
Melon (first one!!)
Lilith (really?)
So yeah, it feels comforting to finally see a pantheon god, but what's with the gold dropping quality steadily after BlOnia.
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Mythical Medjedra 0 stoned
That wasn't as bad as I thought it would be
Ran a Horus-esque comp of Isis, Echidna, Kushi, Chester, and Okuni
100% skill lock resist takes care of the first few floors
Isis vs Isis is not a bad matchup. If I used Horus then it would have been a lot worse because I can't activate without luck and I'd have lower RCV. With Isis though I basically get free 3.5x boards with hearts so it's all good :V
Osiris and Mejded are dangerous because of their low HP OHKOs, but most of my team is resisted which actually helps with not accidentally bursting too hard. Also neither have status shields so all the delays I brought came in handy. Brought Osiris to 40%ish HP then used Echidna to finish him off. Then stalled/comboed during Medjed with the helps of Okuni delay and Kushi to block one Medje the end before Echidna came up to finish him off. I did get a bit lucky though since he swapped Isis with Okuni and then later with Kushi, both of whom are good leaders anyways.
also screw this godfest not pulling
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I yolod again and got defeated
I came to the realization that I don't have a single pantheon god that belongs to a "2" group. I think they don't exist in my game data
EDIT:
[16:35] <Chirei> since i yolopulled and effectively wasted 5 stones again for nothing
[16:35] <Chirei> I subjected myself to a penalty game in order to restore my stone counts
[16:35] <Chirei> so I tried a thing for the first time
(http://i.imgur.com/hArwVHq.png) (http://i.imgur.com/WjVf6VJ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/1tRxk5q.png)
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About time you did that, sheesh.
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I yolod again and got defeated
I came to the realization that I don't have a single pantheon god that belongs to a "2" group. I think they don't exist in my game data
EDIT:
[16:35] <Chirei> since i yolopulled and effectively wasted 5 stones again for nothing
[16:35] <Chirei> I subjected myself to a penalty game in order to restore my stone counts
[16:35] <Chirei> so I tried a thing for the first time
(http://i.imgur.com/hArwVHq.png) (http://i.imgur.com/WjVf6VJ.png) (http://i.imgur.com/1tRxk5q.png)
wtf you've beat true endless several times but not koryu?
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wtf you've beat true endless several times but not koryu?
Apparently.
Just Threedia and Defoud left. I know for sure I can take out Defoud, but it requires me to go through Threedia, who is the last roadblock for me.
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Threedia is a chump, be not afraid of his bullshit
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Threedia is a chump, be not afraid of his bullshit
that's only because you use ronia who shits on him harder than anyone else :V
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The Yolo is strong in me
After roling a Drall yesterday, I did another Yolo roll today, and I got it, the only drop I wanted :V
(http://i.imgur.com/QZZJddS.png)
Team "Happy Killing", it is happening :V
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Whee, started taking on Alt. Clayus Prison. So far nothing bad happening. I keep realizing how much I really need Indra skilled up some though for this; that guard skill has saved my hide I don't know how many times already. (Also being able to eat a hit from Tiamat even without it gives me a lot of leeway with my almost 40,000 HP thanks to Valk being God now. Once I level everyone to max it'll just get better.)
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1U_uCMbg5XI/VTMSUvB-l-I/AAAAAAAAA8M/DmcR7zy4HxQ/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UcIF8OBXTQ4/VTMSSaG3I0I/AAAAAAAAA70/Ci-i2ex_vLc/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1U_uCMbg5XI/VTMSUvB-l-I/AAAAAAAAA8M/DmcR7zy4HxQ/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UcIF8OBXTQ4/VTMSSaG3I0I/AAAAAAAAA70/Ci-i2ex_vLc/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)
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we're in a new age where it no longer costs ten thousand dollars to max skill a collab gold :V
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we're in a new age where it no longer costs ten thousand dollars to max skill a collab gold :V
In stead, it merely costs ten thousand to obtain cards like school athena.
Fuck the padcademy rem.
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Holy shit TWO SNOWGLOBES if you can 0 stone Hera Rush!?
Hera rush is the easiest one right? I hope...
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Holy shit TWO SNOWGLOBES if you can 0 stone Hera Rush!?
Hera rush is the easiest one right? I hope...
I rank them Devil Rush >>> Hera Rush = Dragon Rush >>>> God Rush
personally.
Your team has the advantage of handling wave 1 hera-ur by being blue though, and isis is afraid of no hera-is binds. So with that, your biggest problem is probably Beroc, and DQ Hera.
And yes, if they follow jp schedule, these jewel dungeons will come every non-event week! That's two snowglobes each time! I have loads of snowglobes stocked up but no where to use them because my rolls have been lackluster for the past few months :V
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I think theoretically I can pull it off if I use Kushi to block the 31k prempt
But realistically it would probably take a shitton of tries because there's so much that could go wrong.
Not enough blue orbs to burst turn 1. Bad combos during the next two floors since I get one hit by anything. Getting extreme metal is a 50% auto lose. Hitting Beorc to low hp. Killing Sowilo too fast before the skill bind wears off. (lol Sowilo sucks) Not killing Sowlio timed with Kushi active in order to block the prempt. And then finally fucking up in general vs DQ.
I wonder how many stones snowglobes are "worth"... especially since they aren't farmable
ugh even 0 stoning Hera-Ur and Beorc descend alone will be a pain, but at least I have a lot more sub options now
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I've no-stoned Hera Rush before, but that was without EXTREEEEEEME Metal Dragon appearing. I can use Neptune to destroy him, but I need the dark jewel from no-stoning the dungeon to get awoken Neptune.
Guess I'll just toss myself at it until Hera appears for wave 3. Hera-Ur is kinda scary for wave 1 but 2.3 million HP is really low. Fortunately, both Persephone and Byakko+CDD are up on turn two so I don't have to deal with Hera-Ur for long.
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A snow globe is 2.75M exp when fed on-color, after accounting for the cost to level it up.
King Carnival gives 0.33M if all gems and all fed on-color; 0.3M if all metal/gold and all fed on-color.
So, a snow globe is worth between 8 and 9 King Carnival runs, or 400-450 stamina, minus the stamina of getting the Snow Globe itself.
How many stones is that? and that is how many stones you may spend to get a Snow Globe.
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hey theres that light globe for attackerasu i wanted
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I don't care so much for the snowglobes, I just really want that dark jewel.
If I still had R/G Suzaku, I'd use Ceres on Mephisto's dungeon all day today for effortless farming but I converted her to R/L for Ariel.
Come to think of it, I might try Ariel in Mephisto. Let's see how that goes.
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A snow globe is 2.75M exp when fed on-color, after accounting for the cost to level it up.
King Carnival gives 0.33M if all gems and all fed on-color; 0.3M if all metal/gold and all fed on-color.
So, a snow globe is worth between 8 and 9 King Carnival runs, or 400-450 stamina, minus the stamina of getting the Snow Globe itself.
How many stones is that? and that is how many stones you may spend to get a Snow Globe.
They come at max level from Hera Rush
I think theoretically I can pull it off if I use Kushi to block the 31k prempt
But realistically it would probably take a shitton of tries because there's so much that could go wrong.
Not enough blue orbs to burst turn 1. Bad combos during the next two floors since I get one hit by anything. Getting extreme metal is a 50% auto lose. Hitting Beorc to low hp. Killing Sowilo too fast before the skill bind wears off. (lol Sowilo sucks) Not killing Sowlio timed with Kushi active in order to block the prempt. And then finally fucking up in general vs DQ.
I wonder how many stones snowglobes are "worth"... especially since they aren't farmable
ugh even 0 stoning Hera-Ur and Beorc descend alone will be a pain, but at least I have a lot more sub options now
I remember it taking 6 times when Hera challenge came by for the first time. Hera-Ur is super annoying. Fatty is supposedly rarer than Hera, so it's probably lower than 50%...? You can also choke on Sowilo by her combo shield :V
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Angrily ground out one more pull for the godfest, because I'm irate at not getting anything worthwhile for any of my last 15-20 pulls.
>pull
>GOLD EGG!!!
>...
>...
>...
>strawberry dragon
(https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/Smileys/default/emot-suicide.gif)
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Was challenge mode supposed to be this easy or are 5 Ronias really as stupid as I thought they were.
Because I'm literally running a level 10 unevolved Satan as my leader + 5 Ronias and I just stomped literally everything up until Tower to the Sky before my stamina finally ended.
(I'm feeding all of the fodder to my ROdin so I can have a more decent leader.)
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Was challenge mode supposed to be this easy or are 5 Ronias really as stupid as I thought they were.
Because I'm literally running a level 10 unevolved Satan as my leader + 5 Ronias and I just stomped literally everything up until Tower to the Sky before my stamina finally ended.
(I'm feeding all of the fodder to my ROdin so I can have a more decent leader.)
yep all ronias is completely bonkers
you dont even need a leader skill with all that power
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Accidentally skillmaxed UmiYams while tryibg to get Beyzul skillups. I don't really have a ton of use for them, and now all three pirates are back to being blank drops for me, but whatever. I just need one more skillup. Got six Wangrens in a row though, so it could be a while...
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Accidentally skillmaxed UmiYams while tryibg to get Beyzul skillups. I don't really have a ton of use for them, and now all three pirates are back to being blank drops for me, but whatever. I just need one more skillup. Got six Wangrens in a row though, so it could be a while...
My experience farming the current Bubpy technical dungeon has been -incredibly- easy thus far. The Ifrit on wave 9 dies to a faint breeze and Leviathan gives you four turns minimum to do whatever. Got at least one Bubpy for Neptune out of it, at least!
Though, I wonder how easy the rest of the dungeon is if you were to lead with Gabriel. Maybe just start with Beyzul and YOLO the entire way through? :V
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I don't imagine I'd have a problem just doing it with Athena. I only run alt dungeons with Gabe when shit goes down (Trailokya). But yeah, I guess I really should just do that at this point.
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I've given up on challenge descends. Just gonna grind Kronos forever for those last two woodpy ;____;
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So apparently the Legend Dungeon roguelike has been scrapped. That's a gigantic bummer for me. I wonder how they're gonna make up for that...
EDIT: Never mind, I misread the stream details from a few days ago. I'm not sure how I like the thought of limited dungeons that have shitloads of floors(30+!?)...
EDIT EDIT: O YEEEEEEE
(http://i.imgur.com/Vq7PT9O.png)(http://i.imgur.com/0XlWRub.png)
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So apparently the Legend Dungeon roguelike has been scrapped. That's a gigantic bummer for me. I wonder how they're gonna make up for that...
EDIT: Never mind, I misread the stream details from a few days ago. I'm not sure how I like the thought of limited dungeons that have shitloads of floors(30+!?)...
Actually Roguelike IS scrapped and they'll be using the prepared bosses as descends. Also they might apply rules planned for roguelike to the descend!?? (e.g. the start from lv1 thing)
Not sure what's gonna happen to special awakenings though. With all those heart-related LS released earlier, it's pretty lame if the +-shaped heart shield thing doesn't make it. :|
GJ on threedia! I see best girl was not needed :v
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Whoops I was intending to grind out Mephisto all day today hoping for a dark jewel invade.
Turns out Byakko can't get enough of me, as she invaded wave one of my first attempt.
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Max skilled Liu Bei just in time. Hoorj~
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(http://i.imgur.com/qS3Z68I.jpg)
This stupid bugger took me longer than I care to admit to finally clear. I also finally got around to evolving/ulting Fuu who whoadang is pretty awesome and a fabulous addition to Team Fancy I-Don't-Know-How-LMeta's Pants (Work) even with no skill levels. I learned that I need to not be so conservative when doing descends, stall juuuuust enough to nuke the fuck out of things because the alternative doesn't fly with HP conditionals.
Knocked out Noah this morning too rofl LKali, I think I might be done with running the challenges, the only Piis I really want are behind stuff I really doubt I can do, and I probably should instead focus on leveling these puzzlemons.
AWOKEN CERES
SOON TM
MONOGREEN SHALL RISE TO AVENGE MY MONORED COMRADES
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Actually Roguelike IS scrapped and they'll be using the prepared bosses as descends. Also they might apply rules planned for roguelike to the descend!?? (e.g. the start from lv1 thing)
Not sure what's gonna happen to special awakenings though. With all those heart-related LS released earlier, it's pretty lame if the +-shaped heart shield thing doesn't make it. :|
The way it's worded makes it sound like the descends will be a bit strange, and since the "Drop to Lv1" mechanic is remaining, I can't imagine the descends being just ten floors - that might seem too short for something that intends you to level through it, so it will probably be a part of the intended experience. Sucks that we just lost basically an entire game mode though, since that was my largest hype out of anything they've ever announced so far.
GJ on threedia! I see best girl was not needed :v
Her stats and auto-recovery were actually quite needed, as you can see I did almost bite it against Threedia. I wouldn't have been able to even take the damage from Tornado Seal without using Cure at that point since Grodin Tamadra was pretty annoying.
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Oh it seems like PDZ missed some minor details on the JP stream summary. I mentioned some of this in our irc but seems no one posted here about it?
1. http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1293 is getting a uevo in celebration of PADBT 1st anniversary. Hopefully NA gets this collab. It's their own character so copyright is not a problem, but seeing NA didn't get PADZ until they were bringing it to NA, they might not be bothering unless Round1s in US deem that PADBT is profitable in US and will import them...
Anyways, she's a weaker version of LMeta is most ways, but she does have higher hp. Full bind proof and even higher stats would make her really good as a sub!
Also, she's getting uevo before the other gold egg which is supposedly the protagonist? Priorities :smug:
2. A new mode is in development! They'll tease it during 5/31's gungfo fes. Lets hope this one doesn't just get postponed for half a year then die. RIP Rouge(Legend) Mode 2014~2015.
3. The 4 new ECs are Normal EC (No rcv), Normal EC (No awakenings), TEC (No rcv), TEC (No awakenings)
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No RCV Normal Endless seems like it'd be pretty easy. Hell, it just means you can go all Goemon or Satan on their faces. Or even Folklore.
No awoken skills? I can still see that happening.
TEC? Oh gods.
Also, he lives. (http://imgur.com/ORHJpBs) it's only been two days since I got him but you know no big deal.
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2. A new mode is in development! They'll tease it during 5/31's gungfo fes. Lets hope this one doesn't just get postponed for half a year then die. RIP Rouge(Legend) Mode 2014~2015.
This is all I really want. I want to see them do more things with the engine to keep people puzzling in as many ways as they can. I hope it'll look as enticing as Rogue did.
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No RCV Normal Endless seems like it'd be pretty easy. Hell, it just means you can go all Goemon or Satan on their faces. Or even Folklore.
No awoken skills? I can still see that happening.
TEC? Oh gods.
Also, he lives. (http://imgur.com/ORHJpBs) it's only been two days since I got him but you know no big deal.
Awoken Egyptians can probably take them all no problem :V
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What the fuck. My last three pal machine pulls have all been Devilits.
What.
I hate Devilits so much.
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give them to me
dkali hungers
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give them to me
dkali hungers
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Man, this Neptune.
(http://i.imgur.com/Euxsf3l.jpg)
It's nice having true power. Wiped that Metal Dragon from existence.
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that was completely unnecessary though :V
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But it's ~*~damage~*~ way beyond anything else I've used except Folklore+LuBu or something
Just gonna ignore that the metal dragon would have died from poison alone.
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give them to me
dkali hungers
i have 7
fridays gave me nothing but devilits while i was still skilling up Lkali
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Bad news: literally only one High Dark Ninja drop today. Good news: it finally brought Luci to two skillups. Thirteen more to go ;_;
Also a surprising amount of plus eggs from those Kanetsugu runs over the course of the week, though probably not as efficient as alts. I guess I'll be able to compare this week, since I'll need to hit up alt Oceanus Falls for a while before I attempt to get a spare Hera-Ur from the challenge.
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Ahahahahaha I no-stoned Hera Rush Challenge on my first go. (http://imgur.com/POUzcIF)
(http://imgur.com/GIZD04U.jpg)
Thank god for Neptune. Didn't even realize that I brought him up to level 90 from unevolved Neptune in three days but it's been worth.
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It'd be a real shame if you had ran out of battery huh?
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(http://i.imgur.com/n2bRALv.jpg)
Attack eggs please?
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(http://i.imgur.com/n2bRALv.jpg)
Attack eggs please?
I know what you mean.
(http://i.imgur.com/NKfccfS.png)
I have 16 extra rvc eggs lying around
I tried so hard to max :(
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I never do screenshots in the dungeon again...
I did a screenshot on oneshotting Hera-Sowilo and skipped out (because taking screenshots is hard)
Game crashed, kicked me out of the dungeon, go straight to menu, don't get drops...
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One of these days I really need to work on plus eggs... I barely have any at all on anything. I think my highest is like 57-58 on Karin. (Though I do have like 22-25 plusses on fodder mons waiting til I get them higher before I feed them.)
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All of my +297 I&I friends are gone. All of them. Again. I assume they all switched to Ronia, like every single one of the ~20 of them I've friended in the past. In fact, I'm down to zero I&I mains. The tiny handful of them I have left at all are secondary leads.
Wouldn't be that bothered if I coukd find any +297 U/W Sun Quans, but it seems that nobody at all is playing him. So much for him making Metatron obsolete. Is blue healers just not a thing anymore? Why is nobody at all playing them?
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There was a thread on PF ranking all of the pantheons. For some reason, a lot of tier lists placed Norse at the very bottom, which I thought was weird given how great I&I.
Loki and Thor are in a void of balanced/attacker row subs, though. I don't see why Freyr and Freyja are undesirable, though. Dragon and Balanced seem pretty on point for them.
That's really weird seeing I&I fade like that, though. If I had a larger pool of blue healers, I would totally use mine more freely, but still no Reine. :c
Have you considered finding Lakshmi friends?
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I haven't considered Lakshmi. She is MUCH worse than I&I for my configuration. Losing 10k+ health and a row for orb enhance and a leader skill that buffs Beyzul as well as the rest of my guys is not good.
That's just normal Lakshmi though. Is her awoken form out here? Not sure how I would get on with her. I'd have to try her, but again losing a huge chunk of HP is worrying to me.
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You'd see more I&Is if they made blue healers easier to obtain.
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Also if they got awoken ults
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You'd see more I&Is if they made blue healers easier to obtain.
That would make more sense if they didn't used to be relatively common. It's not like people are losing blue healers that they used to have, so why are people who used to main them all dropping them like hot shit? Are they outdated now somehow? Gabriel doesn't feel like he's gotten that much worse since I started playing, and if I had Andromeda he'd probably be better than when I started, even with the harder dungeons.
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That would make more sense if they didn't used to be relatively common. It's not like people are losing blue healers that they used to have, so why are people who used to main them all dropping them like hot shit? Are they outdated now somehow? Gabriel doesn't feel like he's gotten that much worse since I started playing, and if I had Andromeda he'd probably be better than when I started, even with the harder dungeons.
Well, maybe the did use them, but they didn't have the subs, so perhaps if they got someone with a broader sub pool, like sonia, they moved on that lead. I mean, I never used healer I&I, so wouldn't know. But considering the advice I was getting (use=ing the Andromeda skillup, ) I wouldn't be surprised.
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Eventually, everyone moves to Ronia.
Speaking of which, I noticed that once I'm done with my challenge mode farming, I'll have 75 stones. And I have absolutely nothing I particularly want (Aside from Awoken Horus but :V)
What do.
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I forgot Hera-Ur will skip her Eternal Thirst if damaged too quickly so I died to a High Kick in a regular Ur-dungeon. :c
I might go back to Hera-Rush to farm general skillups and possibly EXTREEEEEEME metal kings. It's fun enough.What do.
Drop it all on box and friend capacity.
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Drop it all on box and friend capacity.
Yep.
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Meanwhile I think I've figured a smarter way to handle Hera-Ur myself, though it'll take some prep:
--S-rank Shadow Sprite (unevo'd Guan Yinping/carbuncle x4/5* or 6* healer lead, assuming Expert is still the level to beat) whoops it's Master that's needed now, never mind :V
--S-rank Arboreal Encounter (ronia/carbuncle x4/ronia or non-uvo Ronia)
--S-rank Holy Dragon Knight (Luci/Hera-Is/carbuncle x3/Luci)
--S-rank Shadow Dragon Knight (same team)
--alt Kronos Forest until Odin is max level, uvo, feed tamas
--push button get Ur (Odin/Hera-Is/Zeus/Luci/Damascus/Odin)
And I can use that Odin for other stuff too, so even if that doesn't work for Ur it's not time wasted. It should, though.
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0 stoned hera-ur
before I always had to stall for echidna on like every other floor which meant there was a lot of room for things to go wrong
this time I brought all my water TPAs and one hit the entire dungeon BV
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Eventually, everyone moves to Ronia.
not me
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I left Ronia for Athena, she's got better fashion sense.
LMeta is my main squeeze though.
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I maxed a ronia for pal points
but it turns out I have more athena friends anyways so now she just sits there
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not me
do you even have a ronia
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I was all like "oh shit, I can totally beat Hera Rush actually" and I went in and realized that Ur's skill guard is a pre-emptive, not a turn. Well, this is literally impossible. Fuck, if this dungeon was set up in any other way than the way it is I would totally be able to beat it (although I still very likely die to fat dragon).
Eventually, everyone moves to Ronia.
And that's why I don't feel bad when people get upset when people criticize Ronia. Her existence makes the game worse by overly centralizing it. Obviously it's nowhere near as bad as in a PVP game, but Ronia makes the game just a little worse for everyone who doesn't play her and that's why she's dum.:colbert:.
not me
Keep on fightin' the fight.
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So I'd found a better team, but there was something missing afterwards...
(http://i.imgur.com/4LrIJIPl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4LrIJIP.jpg)
[21:25:15] <~rdj522> uh, hm
[21:25:26] <~rdj522> do coin dungeons not give tamas
[21:25:32] <himeko> rdj522: They do not.
[21:25:46] <~rdj522> well crap I'll have to dip into the stash after all :(
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actually some coin dungeons do give tamas while others dont
yeah it's weird gungho pls
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Do you know if Jeanne d'Arc and Mulan are two of them? Because if so, I might try to figure out a team for Himiko too.
I just really don't want to feed my +9 tamas to Odin because I have other plans for those. :(
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I think it's mostly the older ones? Or maybe they've removed them all completely...
I can't remember <_>
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And that's why I don't feel bad when people get upset when people criticize Ronia. Her existence makes the game worse by overly centralizing it. Obviously it's nowhere near as bad as in a PVP game, but Ronia makes the game just a little worse for everyone who doesn't play her and that's why she's dum.:colbert:.
oh for fuck's sake pls
The anti-Ronia whining is excessively melodramatic. With all the crazy-ridiculous power creep that's been going on as of late, Ronia's should be the least of anyone's worries at this point. She's used because she's compatible with a high number of monsters and popular for that very reason. Since you can have two leaders now (and can run BOTH of them now instead of just one at a time), it's hardly the problem it used to be-- even people who main her have secondary options, and if you don't like that, boot them from your list and find better friends instead of bitching about it all the time.
That, and it seems like a lot of the time she's a supplement for Beelzebub or Lu Bu, who she pairs really well with, too, rather than just her alone.
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best friend essentially solves the problem as well, provided your bff sticks with your choice
okay i guess if they switch to ronia you're in trouble then :V
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do you even have a ronia
(Reusing this from elsewhere)
I'll let this speak for itself. (http://i.imgur.com/UEt6Bpp.jpg)
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wait you have Isis but you use Alarune for bind healing?
I mean yeah she has better synergy with Leilan, but she only has 50% bind resist which is bleh because it's a 50% chance of her being unable to do the one job she's supposed to do.
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That box capacity.
BeelzeRonia is probably the best application of Ronia spreading across a friend list. Perfectly farmable lead.
Remind me to do Beorc and Sowilo tomorrow.
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oh for fuck's sake pls
The anti-Ronia whining is excessively melodramatic. With all the crazy-ridiculous power creep that's been going on as of late, Ronia's should be the least of anyone's worries at this point. She's used because she's compatible with a high number of monsters and popular for that very reason. Since you can have two leaders now (and can run BOTH of them now instead of just one at a time), it's hardly the problem it used to be-- even people who main her have secondary options, and if you don't like that, boot them from your list and find better friends instead of bitching about it all the time.
Isn't the fact that this is a problem that I have to deal with repeatedly kind of self-explanatory? I'm not complaining over nothing, I'm complaining over an actual problem where I actually can't play optimally. I can't guess what playing with just one leader was like, since even with two my list of 20+ I&Is has dwindled down to two who have her up consistently, and both are at barely over 100 +eggs and zero skillups. Meanwhile, I typically have well over a dozen Ronia friends up even though I have never friended one. That's not nothing, and that's even with two friend leaders. Hardly the problem it used to be, I'm sure. Still a problem though, and a fairly large one.
I'm happy to boot people and find new friends, but this is what, the fourth time I've had to basically overhaul my friends list? And every time I have fewer options to pick from. And really no reason to expect that anyone will stick around for any amount of time before I need to kick a dozen people and hope I can find new ones again.
That, and it seems like a lot of the time she's a supplement for Beelzebub or Lu Bu, who she pairs really well with, too, rather than just her alone.
That's certainly true at some levels of play, but weirdly I don't see that much of it. I have nine Ronias up right now, two Beezlebubs, and one Lu Bu (and two I&I, one of which isn't even max level). And that doesn't really help me a ton since the core problem is "black-red/devils is so much better than everything else that it centralizes the game" whether it's Ronia or Beelzebub or Lu Bu. Variety is great, but not when it isn't really variety as far as I'm concerned.
best friend essentially solves the problem as well, provided your bff sticks with your choice
Yeah, I'm pretty excited for that mechanic. It seems like Gungho seeing a problem and fixing it, and that's super cool.
okay i guess if they switch to ronia you're in trouble then :V
Well yes there's that. :V
Edit: Oof, yeah, just went looking for replacement I&Is, and they are slim pickings. There weren't many of them on PDX, and quite a few of the options were either people I used to be friends with but deleted for inactivity or because they stopped playing all of the stuff I wanted, or they explicitly asked for only requests from things I don't play, or I&I was buried at the bottom of a list of like ten +297 things. Sent requests out to the few that seemed worth a shot, hopefully that pays off. And still no Sun Quans at all.
People on here have mentioned other places to look for friends before, but I can't remember any of them. Remind me again, aside from PDX where should I look?
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I can think of padherder, PF, and... maybe reddit? That sounds like dangerous territory, though. :V
The only Ronia I need is Edible's. I dunno why but when favorited his Ronia appears above all my other favorited friends (ie the motk crew and irl friends) so it's like, "Yeah, I'll give you my pal points. <3"
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wait you have Isis but you use Alarune for bind healing?
I mean yeah she has better synergy with Leilan, but she only has 50% bind resist which is bleh because it's a 50% chance of her being unable to do the one job she's supposed to do.
>Recovers three turns of bind instead of two(EXTREMELY IMPORTANT)
>Dodges Godbinds anyway in XGod Rush and Izanami etc
>autorecovery
>on color
>Cure saves in clutch situations for sheer HP recovery(Hi XGod Rush!)
>Skillbind resist(Hi Zhao Yun!)
>cuter than isis
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https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/590448233366695936 cloud of darkness
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/590448364073844736 zeromus
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/590448651622699009 neo-exdeath
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okay chirei you have a damn lkali
and shynpy to max skill her
WHERE IS SHE I NEED HER
EDIT: and a kotaro too i really hate you right now
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Paradise Of The Holy Beasts is another one of those dungeons where I guess I thought it was way harder than it was so I had never bothered to try to beat it before. Just took another look, and yeah, it's not that bad. Went in and realized that I was using a version of my team with Siren on it instead of Ruka, which was not good. Died to Kouryu because of weird orb rolls on his floor and Sakuya's, but with Ruka on board I would've had more than enough damage to one-shot him. Will definitely be going back in when I get the stamina back up. This is one of those rare cases where the crippling not-being-light/dark drawback doesn't really matter, since I don't really care if Meimei takes half damage. Barring shenanigans I can farm this.
I can think of padherder, PF, and... maybe reddit? That sounds like dangerous territory, though. :V
The only Ronia I need is Edible's. I dunno why but when favorited his Ronia appears above all my other favorited friends (ie the motk crew and irl friends) so it's like, "Yeah, I'll give you my pal points. <3"
Oh cool, I didn't know Padherder had a friend search option. Neat. I'll try there.
Edit: Hmm, next to no options on Padherder either. I think I sent out two requests. The rest were either inactive, full, or people I know to not actually play I&I anymore. And again, zero Sun Quans. Damn. :(
Edit edit: I'm starting to suspect/accept that I&I just isn't a real thing any more and Sun Quan will never be a real thing despite that fact that he's great. I guess I should just accept that I'm now usually going to be playing the kind-of-worse-but-still-usually-acceptable Metatron version of the team. I should go find some Beach Metatron friends, except there probably aren't any anywhere.
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The only Ronia I need is Edible's. I dunno why but when favorited his Ronia appears above all my other favorited friends (ie the motk crew and irl friends) so it's like, "Yeah, I'll give you my pal points. <3"
<3
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4 srs tho make a new thread already
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