Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Hakurei Shrine~ => Touhou Addict Recovery Center => Topic started by: Lishy1 on March 02, 2015, 07:13:14 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYD1FUdB0bc
So, Screwattack finally acknolwedged the existence of Touhou.
All I can say, is that this is some good, ol' fashioned Touhou hijack, like the glory days.
Expecting to see the Touhou fanbase spike, as thousands of people ask "where is that character from?"
Ps. #TeamSakuya
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I already saw several "Who?"s in the comments just half an hour after the video came out so people who have no idea about thrm are certainly seeing it. Of course most of those who watch/read JoJo's are throwing a hissy fit in the comments.
Does anyone know if the version of Flowering Nights used at the end was made by them or taken from somewhere?
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The fight was satisfying, the animation was good all around, that's a good job. Cheating the time limit was a fun touch.
Ha, suck it Dio!
I already saw several "Who?"s in the comments just half an hour after the video came out so people who have no idea about thrm are certainly seeing it.
Never read Youtube comments on popular videos. Nothing good can come from them.
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Of course most of those who watch/read JoJo's are throwing a hissy fit in the comments.
Funny, since Touhou fans (and Sakuya fans in particular) are pretty much JoJo fans as well by default.
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But not the other way around.
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I'm glad you guys enjoyed it :'D
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I'm actually quite fond of the outcome of this battle, being the raving Jojo fanboy that I am
Since no research was done for this that must mean that they were quite familiar with Touhou to begin with, which I'm 100% fine with
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Nah, Screwattack had nothing to do with the outcome/scripting, that was all me.
They didn't even bother to mention where Sakuya came from despite mentioning Dio coming from Jojo D':
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Nah, Screwattack had nothing to do with the outcome/scripting, that was all me.
They didn't even bother to mention where Sakuya came from despite mentioning Dio coming from Jojo D':
Nice. Two thumbs up for brilliant work. You deserve more credit.
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Let's hope the "no research" thing doesn't mean "everyone in Touhou is unbeatable, so they win by default!"
I know Touhou characters are powerful, but I don't like it when people see them as godly and unbeatable...
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Let's hope the "no research" thing doesn't mean "everyone in Touhou is unbeatable, so they win by default!"
I know Touhou characters are powerful, but I don't like it when people see them as godly and unbeatable...
While not every Touhou character is Godly, Sakuya (along with Reimu and Marisa) is definitely one of the few characters to canonically be that powerful.
1. She nearly defeated the Youkai of Fate (Remilia), and becomes her servant.
2. Defeats the queen of the Netherworld (Yuyuko)
3. Almost beats the strongest Youkai in Gensokyo (Yukari)
4. Kills a bunch of Lunarian immortals
I'm not sure if PoFV and the fighting games are considered canon as a testament to Sakuya's strength, and I haven't played Touhou 14.
It's also worth noting that even in gameplay mechanics, Sakuya is part of the "God" tier. What Fox is to Super Smash Bros, Sakuya is to each and every Touhou fighting game, where she is consistently top tier.
Nah, Screwattack had nothing to do with the outcome/scripting, that was all me.
They didn't even bother to mention where Sakuya came from despite mentioning Dio coming from Jojo D':
Wow, the person who made this gold is a member of MoTK?
How did you convince Screwattack to feature your animation?
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2. Defeats the queen of the Netherworld (Yuyuko)
3. Almost beats the strongest Youkai in Gensokyo (Yukari)
4. Kills a bunch of Lunarian immortals
I'm not sure if PoFV and the fighting games are considered canon as a testament to Sakuya's strength, and I haven't played Touhou 14.
It's also worth noting that even in gameplay mechanics, Sakuya is part of the "God" tier. What Fox is to Super Smash Bros, Sakuya is to each and every Touhou fighting game, where she is consistently top tier.
2. Just because you can defeat Yuyuko as her in that game doesn't necessarily mean she is canonically the one who beat her. It's more likely that Reimu and Marisa are the ones who beat her. Plus, there are spell card rules that allow for both sides to have a winning chance.
3. See above. If Yukari doesn't hold back or follow the rules, I don't see Sakuya winning.
4. Never heard of this.
And gameplay mechanics ARE NOT valid proofs of how canonically powerful characters are, so Sakuya being high tiered in fighting games means nothing.
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Is there spell card rules versus Dio?
Also, what if this was a three-way that included Homura from Madoka?
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2. Just because you can defeat Yuyuko as her in that game doesn't necessarily mean she is canonically the one who beat her. It's more likely that Reimu and Marisa are the ones who beat her. Plus, there are spell card rules that allow for both sides to have a winning chance.
Also Yuyuko is a stage 1 boss whenever she feels like it. Gameplay means nothing.
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Wow, the person who made this gold is a member of MoTK?
How did you convince Screwattack to feature your animation?
I'm flattered :D
I was hired by the owner of the show; Mali (As you see on the title screen right after Screwattack's) after being recommended by the rest of the crew for my past animations and was offered a chance to show what I was made of. It actually took a little bit of convincing since nobody in the OMM crew knew much about Touhou, in the end I was able to go with the match-up because I promised to make it look great.
Really, even I think I nerfed Dio quite a bit in this (You can only do so much in a minute, I even wanted to animate Sakuya decapitating him and having to fight his head)
One Minute Melee is really just an animator wanting to make something pretty, what skills/abilities/traits they decide to show/omit on the characters is entirely up to the animators themselves. (As opposed to Death Battle where Screwattack does all the scripting and the animators animate around that script.)
So in the end I had Sakuya win the fight because... I wanted her to :3
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@ Game2011 & Lishy or anybody else, kindly requesting to drop the power level discussion. We don't do power level discussions and I don't prefer to see this thread locked due to that.
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That said, I am amused that the voices from Koumajou no Densetsu were used for Sakuya. They have sense of maturity in them and Sakuya just sounds cool in that game in my opinion. Dragging of the time was clever as noted. I enjoyed the animation and brutal exchanges.
Well done.
So in the end I had Sakuya win the fight because... I wanted her to :3
Haha, that is splendid imo. To have the supreme power to decide the outcome of something like this. Butthurt fanboy/girls will rage at you and delighted ones will praise you. Either way, it is quite amusing.
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@ Game2011 & Lishy or anybody else, kindly requesting to drop the power level discussion. We don't do power level discussions and I don't prefer to see this thread locked due to that.
Sorry...
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Silly fighters, don't they realize you should just pretend to be ice so you can spam time freezes?
In all seriousness though, regardless of how accurate it may or may not be, that was really well made and very fun to watch. Also, wonderfully fast paced; I missed the part where he reattached the arm the first time, so I'll have to watch it at half speed later.
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Neat, very well made fight there. Would watch it again.
To be continued...
it is not over yet :3
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The animation is astonishingly good, hats off. The fight is very well made and choreographed overall.
Of course, as a Touhou fan I also enjoy the outcome, but seeing it end the other way wouldn't have particularly bothered me (unlike the masses of asspained JoJo fans in the Youtube comments...), because the fight is very well made either way, and moreover wasn't aiming at being a researched Death Battle; so I took it as just that, two cool timestoppers beating each other up.
Some might see it as an asspull (especially previously mentioned group of individuals) but I found the plot twist at the end of the fight very clever, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Also, I must ask: is the "To be continued" simply a throwback at the JoJo franchise, or is it actually hinting at a later sequel (1MM or Death Battle)?
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Seems a Jojo thing based on series. Doubting there will be 2nd battle or follow up.
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Ooooh never expected to see a Touhou anything from screw attack :o
Being a Touhou fan and familiar with the JJBA series, I am quite satisfied with this. It's in time like these that youtube might need a "flag as butthurt" button, but I ain't letting some random youtuber butthurt venting spoil my fun :3
(btw the "to be continued" at the end was a nice addition
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Still waiting for a Death Battle. So we might probably agree to their research since we practically do it from time to time anyways. :derp:
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How likely do you think it is that we'll ever get a real Death Battle or at least another One Minute Melee featuring a Touhou character?
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I guess I didn't think about the confusion the whole "To be continued" thing would cause. I popped it in because it's just how the JJBA episodes usually ended, with the color-filtered freeze frame and everything ^^;
And we don't tend to use the same series twice in a row but... If Touhou comes back for a round 2 the one animating it will most likely be me again. (Though you never know, I ended up getting a few of the OMM guys into Touhou xD)
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I guess I didn't think about the confusion the whole "To be continued" thing would cause. I popped it in because it's just how the JJBA episodes usually ended, with the color-filtered freeze frame and everything ^^;
Don't worry. People always try to come up with something when they are in despair. I too thought it was typically how the Jojo episodes ended when I first saw it, including the SFX / style and such.
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And we don't tend to use the same series twice in a row but... If Touhou comes back for a round 2 the one animating it will most likely be me again. (Though you never know, I ended up getting a few of the OMM guys into Touhou xD)
Well, yeah, twice in a row wouldn't be fair to the legions of characters from other series waiting for a shot. Still, good to know the chances are decent that we'll get another one.
I'll continue to hold out hope that a full Death Battle feature a Touhou character, though we might have to wait a long time. Death Battle shows no signs of slowing down, though.
Wonderful job on the animation btw, will definitely be one of my favorite fights to watch.
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Might be a bit late to ask but...
Why a Metal slug level as the stage ?????
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Wow this was a pleasant surprise, even more so because Sakuya is one of my favorites and the fight rocked, good job
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That was really awesome! ^^ I enjoyed the match~
Good job! :)
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This couldn't go into my Favorites fast enough. Fantastic choreography throughout, and I love the details from both series. Nicely done dude.
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Might be a bit late to ask but...
Why a Metal slug level as the stage ?????
It's supposed to look like Cairo, Egypt
That's where the final battle with Dio took place in Stardust Crusaders
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Might be a bit late to ask but...
Why a Metal slug level as the stage ?????
I felt I could do a lot more with the destructible background (That I never got to take advantage of in the end... orz) and the objects that came with the game like the cars and that bus as opposed to using the Touhou/Jojo stages.
That and it was the closest thing I could find to Cairo.
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That was fun. Well done.
What's the music that you used in the video?
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Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2 OST - Battle For Survival
(With slight edits to accomodate the timing of the animation)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCuOjfyUHnA
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Cool, ty.
What about the Flowering Night arrange used in the Viewer Poll at the end? I found the track on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyRpVHtyVuQ) but I can't find the name or artist.
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Really amusing fight to watch that send me shivers down my spine even after the end! It was also nice that Sakuya won too, thank you for that. :)
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Cool, ty.
What about the Flowering Night arrange used in the Viewer Poll at the end? I found the track on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyRpVHtyVuQ) but I can't find the name or artist.
I actually don't know about that one, I animated her victory animation but the music and everything else for the victory screen was done by Mali.
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I felt I could do a lot more with the destructible background (That I never got to take advantage of in the end... orz) and the objects that came with the game like the cars and that bus as opposed to using the Touhou/Jojo stages.
That and it was the closest thing I could find to Cairo.
Its a good choice, since for the final fight with Jojo vs Dio. There were also buses being tossed around.
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I actually don't know about that one, I animated her victory animation but the music and everything else for the victory screen was done by Mali.
Found it. It's from Alstroemeria Records's trace|phantasmagoria (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-iDMYY2PxM&index=7&list=PL2501B95320627286) album.
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But not the other way around.
I knew Jojo long before Touhou.
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Props to Aquila for the animation. Really good, hopefully you can do more.
Also props to whoever chose the UI-70 version of Lunar Clock Luna Dial. Good one.
Had this been Death Battle I'd be scratching my head a bit at the result, but it's not, and overall, I enjoyed this either way. I do love the Time Stop effect. Expected it when I saw the video length though :P But that's probably cause I know both Sakuya and Dio.
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Had this been Death Battle I'd be scratching my head a bit at the result, but it's not, and overall, I enjoyed this either way.
Haven't seen Death Battle, but why the head scratching? I've seen Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, but never read the comics, so does Dio have any other hidden abilities or something?
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Really enjoyed this one, loved how you had the subtitles, especally for all the MUDAs. The time freeze was nice, too. Showed it to a friend and he said that last part gave him goosebumps.
I do wonder how death battle would approach this. Dio's The World only freezes time for about 11 seconds at it's best, and not sure how easy it'd be for Sakuya to disarm Dio like that. Who knows, enough controversy might turn it into a death battle candidate.
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Just gonna hop on the bandwagon and compliment you for the splendid animation as well. Even though you said you "nerfed" Dio and had Sakuya win because of bias, I still think you managed to give Dio his own chance to shine. But in the end, Sakuya launching her final attack and outwitting a Jojo character while Luna Dial played was just a masterful stroke. Major kudos to you, my friend.
I kind of suspected the animator must've been a Touhou fan, since even though they said there's "no research", I thought "there's no way a non-Touhou fan would be able to give Sakuya that much justice." :V
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Haven't seen Death Battle, but why the head scratching? I've seen Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, but never read the comics, so does Dio have any other hidden abilities or something?
It'd probably be nerfed for DB standards, but in the Jojoverse, Stand users can only be defeated by other Stands, due to Stands going so far as to physically protect their users, whether the user wishes it or not(For example, Kujo Jotaro takes a Police officer's gun, puts it to his head, and fires the bullet, which his stand catches. To note, it's pretty much right at his head). At the same time, their Stands can only be seen by other Stand Users. Since Sakuya doesn't have one, she wouldn't be able to see it
Again, it would probably be nerfed by Death Battle standards, so who knows.
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It'd probably be nerfed for DB standards, but in the Jojoverse, Stand users can only be defeated by other Stands, due to Stands going so far as to physically protect their users, whether the user wishes it or not(For example, Kujo Jotaro takes a Police officer's gun, puts it to his head, and fires the bullet, which his stand catches. To note, it's pretty much right at his head). At the same time, their Stands can only be seen by other Stand Users. Since Sakuya doesn't have one, she wouldn't be able to see it
Again, it would probably be nerfed by Death Battle standards, so who knows.
Kinda curious what would happen if Sakuya attacked Dio while in frozen time..... lot of possible outcomes, although my money would be on her being able to hit him.
Anyway, great animation! Really enjoyed it, and the fact Sakuya won is even better :D