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As it seems there's been no mention of it in the forums and the original thread seems to have died, I think this is an important announcement regarding these fangames:
Ido/NRT et al. announced the release of a Phantasm stage for 東方桃源宮 ~ Riverbed Soul Saver and the extra stage of 東方白塵記 ~ White Names Spoiled Past at some point during this month according to Google Translate.
Announcement and screenshots at http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/01/2015-a522.html (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/01/2015-a522.html). Elfin Mint?
I knew there was a reason for the first release of the RSS OST to skip tracks 14-17...
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What's the appropriate resonse for this? "AAAAAH!!!", "HYPE!!!", or "SQUEEEE!!!"?
Relly, though, that's fantastic! Maybe now we'll get our Cthulu. If the midboss isn't Ruri I think I might cry- but those ice crystals in the screenshot are a good sign. And hey, Elfin's back too, that's cool.
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Ha HA! Now if only the fifth maingame difficulty will come out for RSS...
I have no idea what WNSP is going to do with its Extra, but if it isn't so absurd that it forces stage bombs every seven seconds, it's not showing the mechanic off correctly.
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From the screenshot... it seems that Elfin Mint is just a mid-boss... ;) Hopefully the EX and Phantasm will be released soon...!
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Seems like they have released the expected dates for the respective updates of RSS Phantasm and WNSP EX...
http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/01/phex-a6e2.html
WNSP EX - 24th Jan 2015
RSS Phantasm - 31st Jan 2015
Ruri is back... o.o
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Ruri looks nice in that picture without all the sealing tags on her. I wonder if this means the Phantasm boss is Ruri's old master?
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What about this:
The Phantasm boss is Cirno. She being stage 1 "midboss" was foreshadowing. Ruri's ability is to freeze anything, moar foreshadowing. Cirno is the one smart enough to unseal Ruri.
Next on RSS: Cirno makes a genocide against Gensokyo, the first ones on the list are the ones who called her a baka and used a liberation in front of her, obliterating her before she could throw some danmaku.
jk
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Ruri looks nice in that picture without all the sealing tags on her. I wonder if this means the Phantasm boss is Ruri's old master?
Ruri's old master was heavily implied to be Yukari.
From this perspective, I can see that's not Letty's pin she's wearing, but it is a similar design rather unfortunately placed.
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I noticed too that... on the background of the screenshot shown... it's somewhat similar to that of Stage 3...
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Ruri reminds me Eirin there :P
Tomorrow is day to play WNSP :toot:
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Ruri reminds me Eirin there :P
Really? I'm thinking of Keine.
Tomorrow is day to play WNSP :toot:
:toot: :toot:
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Here's WNSP v1.02α (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/01/ex-705a.html), which contains the Extra stage.
You can transfer your previous version data by copying the "data" folder from root/script/Th_wnsp into the same place in the new version.
And, since the spoiler guidelines are no longer in effect, this is the solution to the mystery so Extra can be unlocked:
PART 1 - Timeline
Sanae Lap 1 - Green 1___
Reimu Lap 1 - Red 1______
Marisa Lap 1 - Blue 1__
Marisa Lap 2 - Blue 2______
Reimu Lap 2 - Red 2__
Sanae Lap 2 - Green 2_________
PART 2 - Culprit
Shiragiku (Purple)___
Shiragiku (Purple)____
Shiragiku (Purple)_______
Shiragiku (Purple)__
Resolved (Yellow)____
Resolved (Yellow)______
I haven't played the Extra yet, so etc.
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Having played the Extra--
WNSP was received as a meh game but I think the Extra stage was worth the experience. It's really pretty, and it makes good use of the mechanic. The difficulty goes up quite a bit for the last part, but I just barely failed on my first run because the tactical bombing mechanic gives you so many resources. I sense that the boss attacks are mostly easier than they look, but you still have to take them seriously.
Also, the fifth and tenth spell cards are different based on which protagonist you're using.
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I've yet to actually play the extra, but I did try putting the mystery together before the answer was released. I was right on the timeline, but I was wrong in thinking that
the incident was caused by anyone else but Shiragiku. I KNEW she was largely responsible for Minayu's memory loss, but I should have figured she was responsible from the get go instead of thinking responsibility was transfered from her to Tobiku to Minayu. I feel kinda dumb now.
Looking forward to trying the Extra later!
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I've yet to actually play the extra, but I did try putting the mystery together before the answer was released. I was right on the timeline, but I was wrong in thinking that the incident was caused by anyone else but Shiragiku. I KNEW she was largely responsible for Minayu's memory loss, but I should have figured she was responsible from the get go instead of thinking responsibility was transfered from her to Tobiku to Minayu. I feel kinda dumb now.
Looking forward to trying the Extra later!
It makes sense because at one point Minayu says that the incident had to be caused deliberately, and at the time she didn't have agency. Plus, under spell card rules if the person responsible for the incident is defeated, they have to stop the incident... but Shiragiku is never defeated until after the incident is resolved (and Shiragiku is around at that time anyway).
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Makes sense. I figured that on Marisa's second lap, when the incident was resolved, either Minayu or Shiragiku had to be the one responsible, Minayu because she just got defeated, or Shiragiku because she could have ended the incident as Minayu was defeated in order to shift the blame. My prior guesses were made under similar logic, but I should have realized such things as Shiragiku mentioning Tobiku's experiments and all if her actions across the game were to make it look like she was the hero resolving the incident when it was her fault from the start.
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I only started WNSP like two days ago and have little grasp on the story but I have to say I like the atmosphere of the extra stage (not quite at the boss as of this post).
Edit: Just cleared it. Mesarthim seal of approval.
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I'm still kinda hoping we get an English patch for this.
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Are you supposed to figure something about the story? There's an option called Logical Practice that just shows all the dialogue.
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Are you supposed to figure something about the story? There's an option called Logical Practice that just shows all the dialogue.
Yes. The game bills itself as a mystery+shmup. To unlock Extra you need to reveal the order of the scenarios and who the culprit(s) are at any given point.
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Yes. The game bills itself as a mystery+shmup. To unlock Extra you need to reveal the order of the scenarios and who the culprit(s) are at any given point.
Shoot, I'd better study Japanese a lot more.
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Shoot, I'd better study Japanese a lot more.
The scenarios have finally been translated on the wiki; that might be quicker~
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The scenarios have finally been translated on the wiki; that might be quicker~
Do you think I'm a heretic?!
You dirty little dog, I'm going into your house and master sparking your feces-laden posterior![/sarcasm]
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One definitely feels harder than the other...
Azuma is so damn hard in comparison, and she can even come first on some shot types! Luckily I use either Reimu A or Sanae B, both of which have Mihana first, who feels easier imo)
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The scenarios have finally been translated on the wiki; that might be quicker~
I dunno; I'd much prefer a patch.
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I dunno; I'd much prefer a patch.
I'd prefer actually knowing Japanese, except that I prefer being spoon-fed for that stuff.
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One definitely feels harder than the other...
Azuma is so damn hard in comparison, and she can even come first on some shot types! Luckily I use either Reimu A or Sanae B, both of which have Mihana first, who feels easier imo)
Agreed. Actually it's more that Kayano is so easy that she has to outsource to some other character for some challenge.
Talking of, I'm really tired of that spell card ruining my runs.
Also, I tried ReimuA once (admittedly once) and had a lot of trouble. Kayano's last spell is definitely harder for Reimu than Sanae; is it true for the other exclusive spell card as well?
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Agreed. Actually it's more that Kayano is so easy that she has to outsource to some other character for some challenge.
Talking of, I'm really tired of that spell card ruining my runs.
Also, I tried ReimuA once (admittedly once) and had a lot of trouble. Kayano's last spell is definitely harder for Reimu than Sanae; is it true for the other exclusive spell card as well?
Honestly I haven't put much practice into learning Azuna's final for Sanae. I've after 10~ tries I got the pattern down for Azuna's final on Reimu (it destroys you without proper pathing). Sanae's version isn't downright awful but i only usually get just beyond the first loop of the pattern until the green bullets get mixed in. I actuallu am relatively decent at OH GOD FIRE SWORD DEATH now. I'm almost thinking Reimu has it easier for Azuna's final spell if you know how to misdirect it.
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Honestly I haven't put much practice into learning Azuna's final for Sanae. I've after 10~ tries I got the pattern down for Azuna's final on Reimu (it destroys you without proper pathing). Sanae's version isn't downright awful but i only usually get just beyond the first loop of the pattern until the green bullets get mixed in. I actuallu am relatively decent at OH GOD FIRE SWORD DEATH now. I'm almost thinking Reimu has it easier for Azuna's final spell if you know how to misdirect it.
The first bit, with the orange bullets, is the toughest part when you're also watching for green walls. I think you can see where a wall is coming and then move while the orange bullets are spawning so you can ensure that you don't get pinned. Once you've got that out of the way you just need to stay under Azuma until she drops - the sooner the better because the snake goes wherever the hell it wants, including but not limited to directly at you from beneath the screen.
Also, eventually I'm going to figure out which names I want to use for these people. <.<
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The first bit, with the orange bullets, is the toughest part when you're also watching for green walls. I think you can see where a wall is coming and then move while the orange bullets are spawning so you can ensure that you don't get pinned. Once you've got that out of the way you just need to stay under Azuma until she drops - the sooner the better because the snake goes wherever the hell it wants, including but not limited to directly at you from beneath the screen.
Also, eventually I'm going to figure out which names I want to use for these people. <.<
Here's the Reimu one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo-S10sjCko
It's really not so bad.
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I gave the Extra a blind run with ReimuA, made it to the second boss's survival. I like this Extra a lot, it feels in my opinion more like taking on two final bosses one after the other than the usual Extra boss procedure, which is a nice mixup.
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I don't suppose there's any real trick to know for 追風「フジタスケール６」 now is there? It's pretty much the last spellcard she has that gives me hell on Reimu (1/24 success rate including both actual and spell practice) besides the latter half of her timeout.
It's her third spell, the one that walls you off with fast dagger bullets and throws kunai in after. I THINK I see how I can do it but it seems to trigger imminent freakout since I end up practically top left or top right, possibly going to ram a red kunai near purple ones.
If anything the extra isn't that hard, just Azuna if you lack the knowledge about her attacks. I think I'm seeing how the giant dagger bullet wheel reacts. Do I just sit bottom middle and move with the direction they push me in? If so then ouch but at least I found a way to do it.
Edit: Apparently that didn't work on my last attempt. I literally cannot read this attack lol. Unless that portion is aimed.
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I don't suppose there's any real trick to know for 追風「フジタスケール６」 now is there? It's pretty much the last spellcard she has that gives me hell on Reimu (1/24 success rate including both actual and spell practice) besides the latter half of her timeout.
It's her third spell, the one that walls you off with fast dagger bullets and throws kunai in after. I THINK I see how I can do it but it seems to trigger imminent freakout since I end up practically top left or top right, possibly going to ram a red kunai near purple ones.
If anything the extra isn't that hard, just Azuna if you lack the knowledge about her attacks. I think I'm seeing how the giant dagger bullet wheel reacts. Do I just sit bottom middle and move with the direction they push me in? If so then ouch but at least I found a way to do it.
Edit: Apparently that didn't work on my last attempt. I literally cannot read this attack lol. Unless that portion is aimed.
The wheel will always push you left on the first cycle, and then alternate. You want to start the cycle in the corner opposite the direction you're getting pushed, partly because that gives you more room to be pushed and partly because on the audio cue the typhoon will come down based on which side of Azuma you're on. If you're getting pushed to the left and you direct the typhoon left, well etc. then.
I think I've had most success with the kunai when I stay close to the wall of knives. You may need to dodge through purple kunai when the red ones go off. You will need to pull in toward Azuma at the end to avoid getting knifed or shoveled from behind.
It's a practiced maneuver, no matter what.
I have slightly more trouble with Azuma's survival spell, even though it might be the best-designed survival spell I can think of.
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I almost got my no-deaths all-spells run but I choked on the last spell. At this point I think I'm hallucinating bullets from playing so long.
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Seems I needed to brush up on the first spell on the other boss too. I'm like BLUE WAVE, WHY :derp:
Truthfully in these tag team fangames I wish it kind of played out like imperishable night too team-wise, with an option of playing a single character as opposed to changing when focused. Not necessary but I'd still think it'd be neat if it was there.
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I beat the Extra but Fraps keeps going to 30fps at the boss so I can't really post my results without the video suddenly going to 30fps for no apparent reason during the boss.
Also a popup appeared during the fight and I lost a life because of it thanks Windows >_>;; If I can sort out recording issues though I'll try and get a video up soon.
In terms of the actual boss fight though, I thought both Kayano and Himefuji were really fun to face up against. Though Kayano is definitely easier than Himefuji in a lot of regards. Kayano's last spell is pathetically easy if you play as Sanae while Himefuji's is impossible for me while playing Sanae. Also what the fuck is Himefuji's survival I've never really been good at indestructible bullets that are always on the screen but hot damn that was hard.
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Talking about RSS, yesterday i did a hard 1cc with Reimu's needles (autobomb on), and crashed during the ending. Extra didn't unlock for Reimu. Today i did the hard 1cc with Reimu's homing amulets and it didn't crash. Extra unlocked. Was that an isolated event or did this happen to someone else?
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From the little surprise we had in WNSP EX... anyone thinks we are gonna get something different and unexpected in RSS Phantasm too...? I'm having hopes for it to surprise me... maybe we have to deal with 2 bosses at the same time throughout the battle...!
Talking about RSS, yesterday i did a hard 1cc with Reimu's needles (autobomb on), and crashed during the ending. Extra didn't unlock for Reimu. Today i did the hard 1cc with Reimu's homing amulets and it didn't crash. Extra unlocked. Was that an isolated event or did this happen to someone else?
I believe the crash failed to unlock the Extra ...
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I beat the Extra but Fraps keeps going to 30fps at the boss so I can't really post my results without the video suddenly going to 30fps for no apparent reason during the boss.
The boss's distortion aura is a pixel shader, which causes strange and varied (or sometimes none at all) effects on Danmakufu when recording with a program that hooks onto the visual buffer of the program (such as Fraps). You can disable the effect in the options menu.
オーラエフェクト - Aura effects <--- turn this off
自機エフェクト - Player effects
弾消しエフェクト - Bullet break effect
その他のエフェクト - Other effects
オープニングスキップ - Skip opening
初期値へ戻す - Revert back to default values
保存して終了 - Save and exit
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The boss's distortion aura is a pixel shader, which causes strange and varied (or sometimes none at all) effects on Danmakufu when recording with a program that hooks onto the visual buffer of the program (such as Fraps). You can disable the effect in the options menu.
オーラエフェクト - Aura effects <--- turn this off
自機エフェクト - Player effects
弾消しエフェクト - Bullet break effect
その他のエフェクト - Other effects
オープニングスキップ - Skip opening
初期値へ戻す - Revert back to default values
保存して終了 - Save and exit
Oooh, that makes sense! I'll try recording again tomorrow since I'm going to bed soon. Thank you for the advice!
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Since Riverbed Soul Saver Extra was Crimzon Clover stage 5 I'm going to guess Phantasm is going to be Dodonpachi Saidaioujou stage 5.
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White Names Spoiled Past Extra Clear ~ No Deaths, All Spells Captured (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTp9Pm0WN7o)
Because when you have a week to move out of your apartment, you should spend it cramming video games.
Also what the fuck is Himefuji's survival I've never really been good at indestructible bullets that are always on the screen but hot damn that was hard.
It's AWESOME is what it is.
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So turning off the distortion effect worked! Should have a video up... eventually. Hopefully.
It's AWESOME is what it is.
OK I won't deny when I wasn't bomb spamming for dear life it looked pretty damn cool, but I just can't wrap my head around it. Maybe one day I can but that day certainly isn't today.
Now to wait for RSS Phantasm. RSS EX was actually the first Extra stage I had ever beaten in any danmaku game so it'll be kind of nostalgic(?) to re-visit it again and I can't wait.
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White Names Spoiled Past Extra Clear ~ No Deaths, All Spells Captured (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTp9Pm0WN7o)
Because when you have a week to move out of your apartment, you should spend it cramming video games.
It's AWESOME is what it is.
I haven't been working on it as dedicated as you (maybe half as much) but I do hold true to my self-endowed title of clumsy. I usually have on average maybe 2 deaths in a run assuming I don't botch the stage portion. One timeout I've yet to capture (I have gotten close) while the other I'm like herp derp ram bullet at full speed accidentally on wave 3 or 6.
By all means it's not that hard of a stage and I enjoy it. I am just clumsy :V
Edit: I also have a solid approach to Kiyano's first attack. The blue wave is now inconsequential to do. Reimu A has to deal with the blue wave and (almost) the yellow but every other wave is basically automatically misdirected.
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I haven't been working on it as dedicated as you (maybe half as much)
Nnh. I'm sorry if I've come across as conceited. I was just really (overly, unhealthily) excited to have a shot at something that no one else had done yet.
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Oh I never intended it to have sounded as coming off as condescending or conceited in any way or form, I quite literally have only been working on it about half as much (according to your spell records). I'm also quite literally clumsy in my shmups playing. In my last run I died to Azuma's first spell, BEFORE the rain. :derp: Would have been a great run otherwise.
I'm sticking more with Reimu A but it has the middle ranking bomb. The damage doesn't come off for a few seconds but it's not as awful as the Marisa bomb (doesn't even autocollect and you move slow!).
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IT'S HERE.
http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/01/ph-3f12.html
GET IT WHILE IT'S STILL HOT.
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There are two links - the top is for the full package, and the second one is just the Phantasm patch.
I see the boss has eleven spell cards.
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Per character, to unlock Phantasm you have to complete Extra. This is even if you completed Extra before.
What I mean to say is that I just had the most awkward Extra run I can imagine. "I swear I remembered something like this... oh, guess it wasn't supposed to be done like that."
I think the Extra changed a little bit too. Also, there are at least two more sizes of point items, presumably to cut down on the number of sprites on screen.
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First try, made it to the boss's second nonspell without hypers. I really have no idea how I lost my last two lives.
This one looks like it's going to be a tough nut to crack.
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Aw yisss!
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Hang on, now I have to make the effort to beat Extra. Time to shake off some rust, I suppose. At last I shall do a stage unspoiled!
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The fact that the shot I managed to beat Extra with was Reimu C made this an interesting first run. Made it to... I think the boss' fourth last attack? There were 4 stars from what I remember before I got killed. That was with Hypers though because Reimu C's Hyper is too insane not to use whenever possible. Triple gohei all the way!
Tons of fun though, and I'm interested to find out who exactly Abe is. She can't be Ruri's master because that was implied to be Yukari, wasn't it?[/spoilers]
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:V
I just realized that the boss looks an awful lot like a certain vengeful spirit who is never, ever going to appear in a canon game.
But she's a sea serpent, from what it looks like.
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:V
I just realized that the boss looks an awful lot like a certain vengeful spirit who is never, ever going to appear in a canon game.
But she's a sea serpent, from what it looks like.
... :V
NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT... Yeah, she really does. The boss' facial expressions are also really similar...
Though yeah I thought she was probably a sea serpent. Going to see if I can find any specific info on who and what exactly she is
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From what I can tell, on the site there's something about "Tsuchimikado Sizume" which, seeing as the boss' name is already known in English, isn't her name. Though searching for Tsuchimikado brought up that the 83rd Emperor of Japan was called Tsuchimikado. Sizume just brings up some manga stuff.
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Does anyone else have the impression that Ruri is harder than Ms. PH Boss?
Got to Ms. Boss' third card, lost my last life there, which was totally deserved gotta maintain distance from the walls
, 1st and 2nd card captured, though the 2nd was a close call. Meanwhile i lost my first run to Ruri's 1st, in the second run i missed the 1st card, captured the 2nd, missed the 3rd.
Also, Ms. Boss' theme reminds me of An Yaezaki's theme. Link to refresh the memory (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSgkVZ7oY8g).
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Does anyone else have the impression that Ruri is harder than Ms. PH Boss?
Got to Ms. Boss' third card, lost my last life there, which was totally deserved gotta maintain distance from the walls
, 1st and 2nd card captured, though the 2nd was a close call. Meanwhile i lost my first run to Ruri's 1st, in the second run i missed the 1st card, captured the 2nd, missed the 3rd.
Also, Ms. Boss' theme reminds me of An Yaezaki's theme. Link to refresh the memory (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSgkVZ7oY8g).
Actually I found Ruri's first two spells quite tame, even more so than Mumumu's counterparts. The third one is BS, though.
Surprisingly I reached the boss's 6th card on my first run, probably because of all the lives it gave me in the stage. Some of the spells are easier than the Extra counterparts, but the nonspells are crazy.
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Ruri's first spell has random difficulty which is really annoying. Her second one is a gimme. The third one goes from basically impossible to generally doable once you realize that
you don't have to go higher than the second bubble circle and you don't have to move around very much.
As for the boss, after getting to the fourth card I'm not sure they're comparable. The boss seems to have a bunch of really silly gimmick spells, but her nonspells really seem like they put the player under a lot of pressure. But seriously, the strategy for the second, third, and fourth spells seems to be "just keep shooting the boss, but don't be surprised by anything".
The first boss spell brought back instant bad memories of Phantasm Romance, specifically Yukari's string spell
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I'm really not sure what to make of either of the new BGMs.
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I really like the stage theme. It sounds very "Evillious" to me, especially in the part where you fight Ruri. It also sounds a lot like TLC's extra stage in some parts, but I think that might just be similar instruments I'm hearing. I don't like the boss theme at all but I'm hoping it'll be like the Extra boss theme; it'll get better the more I listen to it.
(My computer can't play the game at a decent speed, so I could only watch the video). As far as spells go, most of the early ones seem dumb to me, most of the later ones seem ridiculously hard, but I really like the middle ones =P. I also like the 8th spell, and the second phase of the last spell, even if they are insane. And btw, the second spell is just like a spell in CTC extra
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I'd like to point out that even if Ruri was implied to be Yukari's shikigami, that doesn't mean she ever was. Red herrings and all. And IIRC, Yukari couldn't even remember if Ruri was her shikigami or not (and neither could Ruri, for that matter).
The boss is totally Mima 0_0
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Yeah, I will admit that a lot of
Kiyohime's
spells feel a little gimmicky and the non-spells are extremely tense from what I've played of it. I also think the boss theme is kickass but doesn't feel like a Phantasm theme? It's tense definitely but it does feel more like just a standard Extra theme than a Phantasm theme. Then again the only official Phantasm theme is a remix of a slightly above-average theme so the fact that this was an original composition was nice.
Also in regards to who the boss is based off of, I'm almost certain the boss has some ties to Abe no Seimei who was a famous onmyouji who had a pentagram mon that represented the Wu Xing. Guess what the boss' spells heavily feature?
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Oh wow. Oh wow that boss. Oh wow why am I completely and utterly just flabbergasted at most of the fight. That was the most intense combination of awesome yet occasional bullshit. I'm not looking forward to trying to beat this, let me say that much. Blind I did made it to like... the eighth or so card.
The one where she just becomes a black shadowy... thing.
But other than that... yeaaah.
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I noticed that selecting Spell 04 in Phantasm Spell Practice crashes the game.
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I noticed that selecting Spell 04 in Phantasm Spell Practice crashes the game.
That doesn't seem to happen with me. Tried (TRIED) to capture it with Marisa's missiles and Futo's wind. Some slowdown at the start but no crash. Useless with spell 04 you mean the boss' 4th spell card and not her 1st card, the one numbered as 4 in the PH practice page.
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That doesn't seem to happen with me. Tried (TRIED) to capture it with Marisa's missiles and Futo's wind. Some slowdown at the start but no crash. Useless with spell 04 you mean the boss' 4th spell card and not her 1st card, the one numbered as 4 in the PH practice page.
I meant the one marked 4 on the practice page. Did you try it with ReimuA?
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Looking at the end of the demo video posted... there seems to be an extra mode that is just like the one in Mystical Power Plant...?
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I meant the one marked 4 on the practice page. Did you try it with ReimuA?
Now i tried with ReimuA (homing amulet), Again, some lag in the first part of first try, but captured it in the 3rd attempt. Maybe, just maybe it's your computer. Seeing your signature, you tell about how crap
tastic your computer is when playing RMI and PIB. PIB lags a lot for everyone due to messy code, but RMI works perfectly for me.
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Now i tried with ReimuA (homing amulet), Again, some lag in the first part of first try, but captured it in the 3rd attempt. Maybe, just maybe it's your computer. Seeing your signature, you tell about how crap
tastic your computer is when playing RMI and PIB. PIB lags a lot for everyone due to messy code, but RMI works perfectly for me.
Yep, I found out that the backgrounds in RMI was the culprit. Unfortunately, to play without them you need to launch the game in 256 colors.
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Okay, so on a translation note for the song titles added with the Phantasm patch, for anyone that wants to correct me:
生命無キ涜神ノ亡都 translates to something like "Dead Capital of Lifeless Blasphemy" or something to that extent.
インヤンシーサーペント translates more literally to "Yin-Yang Sea Serpent".
EDIT: Or someone already threw stuff on the wiki. Nevermind me then!
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IT'S HERE.
http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/01/ph-3f12.html
GET IT WHILE IT'S STILL HOT.
It's not letting me download it :(
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Also I just noticed that the actual sprite they use for fighting Ruri is just her Stage 3 one but the right side up (http://i.imgur.com/ViSEQm7.jpg).
Also beating the Phantasm with Reimu C is harder than I thought. The way the stage is laid out makes it kind of difficult to reliably collect everything, even when you're in Hyper Mode. While I could fight the Extra boss with a full 9 lives I think I could only conceivably fight the Phantasm boss with 6 or 7
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Also I just noticed that the actual sprite they use for fighting Ruri is just her Stage 3 one but the right side up (http://i.imgur.com/ViSEQm7.jpg).
Yep. Didn't even bother to change the pupil colour. Tsk.
Beat Extra by an hair's breadth. Phantasm, though... I don't remember PCB Phantasm being this hard. Two tries took me to the third spell, but I suspect further improvements will come hard.
Also what are you talking about peeps the music is the best thing. Especially the boss theme, like it far better than Yato's.
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Also what are you talking about peeps the music is the best thing. Especially the boss theme, like it far better than Yato's.
Yato's theme was disappointingly short. Honestly the only BGM I really unhesitatingly like in this game is the Extra stage theme, which is kind of sad considering like half of MPP's soundtrack. The Phantasm boss's theme is growing on me after Spell Practice though.
I managed to get to the Phantasm boss's 10th spell card, which thankfully bears no resemblance to Border of Life and Death (but makes me wonder if ido has been playing Copy Kitty). The nonspells get a lot easier once you realize you can destroy the familiars, but the difficulty ratchets up five notches starting with the eighth nonspell. The eighth spell is really crazy, I simply don't know how to do the ninth spell (which isn't static), and while the tenth spell is easier than all of these it's still very easy to get hit on the second half.
Just peeking into the code I do know that the final spell is also a survival card and also isn't static.
The mechanic behind the ninth spell is that the boxes that the thorns pass through close in on themselves. The issue is that I think every other set of thorns is aimed at you. Also, every ten seconds the thorns explode, which really isn't helpful given the butterflies zooming around.
Also, the eighth spell has a timeout phase when 12 seconds remain.
Also while I'm looking through the files, Kiyohime's sprite actually draws the pentagram, which is kind of cool.
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Three hours of experimentation later, I figured out how the ninth spell is done. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihIJHOeKbYI) Capturing this without spending so much time on a route seems pretty unlikely tbh.
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After completing Phantasm (admittedly with a hyper)... um... there's a thing. It's indeed quite a thing. It's a thing where spell cards don't unlock after playing them for some reason. But I got to the beginning of Stage 5 with ReimuB.
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A doublepost, so sorry, but there were two patches released to the game.
One (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/02/post-ff11.html) fixes the spell card counter for Overdrive, which notably lets you practice the spells.
The other (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/02/2-7680.html) is a bug fix for the LIBERATION mechanic, which someone who uses hypers can talk about more than me.
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(http://gyazo.com/36c4e6f4595058d1c78506da6db61c9c.png)
This is the difference between the files for lib_evolution.dnh. I think it's fixing a bug regarding different sizes of point items, based on the google Translate? Not sure.
Edit: ...What's with the google thing. ._.;
Second Edit: So try number two on Phantasm got me to the survival this round. Hahaha oh god why is this a thing why is it a thing.
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MY GAME CRASHED WHEN I CLEARED TARUMI'S SPELLCARD! TWICE!
I love bombing up spellcards, but I hate explosive games.
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Holy. Fucking. Shit. Overdrive mode is amaaaaazing. :*
Like they were going for a Cave style mode in Mystical Power Plant before but I think they nailed it pretty good this time.
Stage and boss design are quite amazing and the constant hyper mechanic reminds me a lot of Crimzon Clover Boost. All of the masses of extra enemies to balance it also makes it incredibly fun.
Cleared it after a few attempts with MarisaA. I went into stage 5 blind and lost pretty much all of my resources there because that stage is quite insane. This meant I had to take on the final boss blind on my last life which was pretty hype.
Is it just me or is stage 3 from the normal game missing in Overdrive though? Also you can't seem to practice the stages and there are a bunch of Overdrive spells in spell practice that are still locked?
The difficult select also mentions something about switching shottypes by pressing userkey 1 but I haven't' figured out how that works yet.
Oh yeah there's also a Phantasm stage in there somewhere. I liked that it was actually difficult, I actually had to put in some effort to beat it! And I do think that it's designed a lot better than Extra. Although that 70 seconds of memogarbage of a survival spell can just fuck right off.
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How do you access Overdrive mode? *is interested*
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How do you access Overdrive mode? *is interested*
I'm pretty sure that it's unlocked the same way that MPP's Ura was unlocked.
Complete the Phantasm Stage.
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Ohhh. I think before I do that I'm going to unlock Phantasm for ReimuB or another front-focus type first, then give it another shot.
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Is it just me or is stage 3 from the normal game missing in Overdrive though? Also you can't seem to practice the stages and there are a bunch of Overdrive spells in spell practice that are still locked?
I think Stage 3 is missing since the obvious '5-stage CAVE shmup' formula was meant to be invoked by ido and the dev team.
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I think Stage 3 is missing since the obvious '5-stage CAVE shmup' formula was meant to be invoked by ido and the dev team.
Yeah but usually stage 5 is a super-long stage followed by the final boss and then the TLB. There is not even a stage in the last stage here. :V
I should mention that Overdrive is unlocked for all shottypes so you only have to beat Phantasm once.
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And third attempt of Phantasm, this time with ReimuC, tanked on the survival again. That survival is just... no, no, I can't stand it. It's really confusing and I have no idea how to get past it without essentially running around like a maniac and deathbombing when I get hit.
Somewhere in my replay, though, in one of the nonspells, Reimu essentially enters "bullets, what bullets, fuck that I'm Reimu" mode and somehow doesn't get hit. It's the only reason I kept this replay. :V
http://puu.sh/fo50l/3ea62887f8.dat
EDIT: Specifically the nonspell where she summons the red shikigami that fire lasers off at you, although the spellcard where she summons the stars around you could count too. :V
SECOND EDIT: How did I do this? (http://i.gyazo.com/619f047e924fae15d4ef905e800aeb4e.mp4)
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Like they were going for a Cave style mode in Mystical Power Plant before but I think they nailed it pretty good this time.
Stage and boss design are quite amazing and the constant hyper mechanic reminds me a lot of Crimzon Clover Boost. All of the masses of extra enemies to balance it also makes it incredibly fun.
The thing I noticed is that usually in games with these kinds of bosses, you wait for a certain pattern to get a really good bullet clear - but in this game there's no incentive to do that; you just want to power through spell cards as quickly as possible.
Stage 3 does not exist. I mean come on they didn't bother to update Ruri's sprite for Phantasm :V
There are several Overdrive spells that are unused at this time. Given that the devs threw out two patches yesterday I think it's safe to say that another update is forthcoming.
Kiyohime's survival spell is every bit as awful as everyone's saying it is. If you memorize the first two waves (bottom left corner until the red familiars re-aim, top left corner until the orange familiars re-aim) that's may get you far enough in that you won't have to bomb too too much? I have a video showing a route for the whole thing but I don't even expect myself to remember all that fourteen minutes into a run. Also, though this probably doesn't need to be said, don't use hypers.
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but why do they put "03_C_OverDrive.dnh" in the script?
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he dodged until time out , so the game crashed.
:wat:what a bug.
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Loving the look of WNSP extra and RSS Phantasm!
RSS Overdrive, on the other hand?
EDIT: Never mind. Maybe I shouldn't watch a FutoC video before judging, it made everything look like impossible walls... I'll go watch it played with a more main-stream shot-type, then post my judgement here.
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So... It's been awhile.
But anyways aside from my VERY long absence I think I'd like to mention a thing some people might not know since the game is still Japanese, that patch might take awhile and probably few people checked the Wiki for a translation.
So that little message below the Overdrive difficulty mentions that you can change a few shot types by pressing User Key 1 (defaulted to C). Basically the shot types that are affected by this are Marisa C and all of Futo's shot types which means you don't need to be shot gunning all the way or expecting to bomb a huge danmaku wall.
Even got a video about it here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtUQHO4ymg).
Also it probably should be noted that even with Overdrive having more spell cards listed than what's available, the image file for the Spell Practice menu also shows an option called Overflow among a 15th spell card listing.
I kinda have a theory that there isn't going to be a new ido game for this year and it's all basically going to be refinements and additions to Riverbed Soul Saver for the rest of this year. We might get something from NRT and the same people who made WNSP this year but I think for now ido is buckling down with Len to try and fill the game up with as much intended content as possible (might even involve Last Word spell cards if the difficulty tags indicate anything).
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Overdrive is so much fun I may be a little too much in love with it. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXDSiCpBJCQ)
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So while I've barely touched Riverbed I have question for WNSP. Second boss third spell: Prime Sign "Prime Number Financial Crisis" on Lunatic. Is there an easier way to go about this spell? It took me like 30~ runs in spell practice before I finally captured it because I didn't actually realize it was COMPLETELY static depending on how it is aimed (slowpoke.jpg).
I end up huddling pretty close below her and dodging in this tiny square that forms between bullets exactly inbetween where two of the red orbs went past and then move inbetween the middle of where they were aimed next and use that small square between bullets. Is there any (other) safer spots? Though I have this spot down pretty well as long as I pay real close attention. My spot is only reliable at close range though, long range is too hard to re-position before the next wave. (Spell went from like 0/30 to 8/41, I'd say this is working)
Though her first spell gives me crap too. I cannot track the directions of all of the star walls that form and bend.
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So while I've barely touched Riverbed I have question for WNSP. Second boss third spell: Prime Sign "Prime Number Financial Crisis" on Lunatic. Is there an easier way to go about this spell? It took me like 30~ runs in spell practice before I finally captured it because I didn't actually realize it was COMPLETELY static depending on how it is aimed (slowpoke.jpg).
I end up huddling pretty close below her and dodging in this tiny square that forms between bullets exactly inbetween where two of the red orbs went past and then move inbetween the middle of where they were aimed next and use that small square between bullets. Is there any (other) safer spots? Though I have this spot down pretty well as long as I pay real close attention. My spot is only reliable at close range though, long range is too hard to re-position before the next wave. (Spell went from like 0/30 to 8/41, I'd say this is working)
Though her first spell gives me crap too. I cannot track the directions of all of the star walls that form and bend.
It's exactly as you say- completely static. It's also completely symmetrical, so all you really have to do is find a safe spot you like (there are tons in the card) and do your best to get there every time. On Lunatic, though, you probably want to find a couple safe spots and go to whichever one is easiest to access atm. I recommend practicing it on hard a LOT before practicing it on Lunatic.
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It's as you said, an aimed pattern. Figuring out how to stay in the safe spot as Uka moves and rotates the pattern takes a little practice, but this approach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zJBWtcDG1Q#t=9m15s) is the best one I've found.
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It's as you said, an aimed pattern. Figuring out how to stay in the safe spot as Uka moves and rotates the pattern takes a little practice, but this approach (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zJBWtcDG1Q#t=9m15s) is the best one I've found.
That's actually what I'm doing now. I'm surprised I found that on my own considering when I first tried it on Lunatic I was being destroyed on the first wave a lot. I can't accurately track openings down further because of the many angles the bullets come at.
Guess it was more of a confirmation of "Are other people doing this so I'm not doing it a potentially hard way?"
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Hmmm. At first I was a little disapointed that the Phantasm boss wasn't more Lovecraftian, but now that I've seen her spell cards it looks like she might be an avatar of (or otherwise related to) Nyarlothotep. I'm really curious to see her dialogs translated now...
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After I beat RSS phantasm, I didn't see the button "save replay", you have the same problem? After unsuccessful phantasm runs replays successfully saves, after extra beating - too.
(http://dobrochan.com/src/png/1502/%D0%91%D0%B5%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-83.png)
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February 26th: They have updated their blog with...moonrunes.
Says something about extra and phantasm overdrives. (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/02/post-b64f.html) No download links, just a preview. Since the screenshots show 0 score/lives/bombs and the BGM name on the bottom, it must be like MPP again, selectable only from spell practice.
Also, sorry for coming 3 years late, but they have a game called 東方偽神霊廟 ~ Heaven Desires. Game proper and BGM are two different downloads (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2012/08/829-b06b.html). Requires being installed in Danmakufu 0.12m as The Last Comer. It's a substitute for Ten Desires stages 4 to 6 + extra stage. Players are raymoo and maris [sic, you'll see why when you see the character portraits. they get better]. Plays similar to TD (you have been warned).
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For some reason, the 1.02 game consistently freezes up just before Momohime shows up (1.00 also does that about once in a hundred, but I've played through 1.02 three times and they ALL freezes on that spot) on my computer. Is there some way to fix it?
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Apparently they released the update with the new Overdrive spellcards (at least, they released a 1.02b patch): http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/03/102b-7b7f.html (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/03/102b-7b7f.html). Dunno about the unlocking requirements, though.
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Seems like this update got rid of Ruri's stage 3 overdrive. Well, rather, it changed the file from 21 kb to 0kb (ie. empty).
Hacked screenshots by me (notice Yuyuko's name).
[attachimg=1] First phase.
[attachimg=2] Second phase.
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The unlock requirements are actually pretty simple.
Overdrive keeps going after Momohime, right into the Extra and then the Phantasm stages. Aside from the bosses, the only difference is that enemies drop really nasty vengebullets. I'm hacking so I can unlock spell practice, but you should probably take my word for it that the stages are much nastier now that you have to keep moving and the bosses are... well... there's a strong appearance of wallmaku in Mumumu and Yato's spells.
Basically, I hope you like pain. Lots of pain. Because it's not like getting through Momohime was easy; now do it with enough resources to get through another long stage and another really long stage.
EDIT: Some quick reviews of the four OD spells--
Mumumu's is made of Walls That Are Not Walls, largely due to hitbox magic. MarisaB can mercifully cut out both phases before the really difficult parts come out (in the first phase, the firewalls that look impassible; in the second phase, the white rice bullet walls of clipdeath).
Yato's spell is basically all walls all the time. Just trying it casually I can rarely get past the first phase, and haven't gone beyond the second one. The first part is supposed to be done by moving into the bullet walls and hoping you don't get firewalled or lasered.
Ruri's spell may actually be one of the easiest. The first part is a nasty streaming attack like her Stage 3 midboss nonspell; the second part is like her third Overdrive spell but much easier to read.
Kiyohime's spell is EFFING DANMAKU BOUNDED FIELD I knew it was going to be a survival spell but TWO HUNDRED EFFING SECONDS OF ONE OF THE MOST OVERDONE GIMMICKS IN TOUHOU FANGAMES and just like its predecessor the whole spell freezes while you're invincible and THE WHOLE SCREEN IS BLINKING WITH THOSE ARROWHEAD BULLETS but those bullets have such small hitboxes that on some waves you can actually just sit in a corner or something and the bullets that are supposed to punish you for it will miss you and JESUS FRIED CHICKEN THIS IS THE LAST SPELL IN AN EIGHT-STAGE GAME OF MASS MURDER and the spell card bonus is literally maxed out so it's obvious that this spell is purely there to troll the player and ruin runs. In case you missed it I'm somewhat upset about this design decision at the moment.
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The unlock requirements are actually pretty simple. Overdrive keeps going after Momohime, right into the Extra and then the Phantasm stages. Aside from the bosses, the only difference is that enemies drop really nasty vengebullets. I'm hacking so I can unlock spell practice, but you should probably take my word for it that the stages are much nastier now that you have to keep moving and the bosses are... well... there's a strong appearance of wallmaku in Mumumu and Yato's spells.
Basically, I hope you like pain. Lots of pain. Because it's not like getting through Momohime was easy; now do it with enough resources to get through another long stage and another really long stage.
EDIT: Some quick reviews of the four OD spells--
Mumumu's is made of Walls That Are Not Walls, largely due to hitbox magic. MarisaB can mercifully cut out both phases before the really difficult parts come out (in the first phase, the firewalls that look impassible; in the second phase, the white rice bullet walls of clipdeath).
Yato's spell is basically all walls all the time. Just trying it casually I can rarely get past the first phase, and haven't gone beyond the second one. The first part is supposed to be done by moving into the bullet walls and hoping you don't get firewalled or lasered.
Ruri's spell may actually be one of the easiest. The first part is a nasty streaming attack like her Stage 3 midboss nonspell; the second part is like her third Overdrive spell but much easier to read.
Kiyohime's spell is EFFING DANMAKU BOUNDED FIELD I knew it was going to be a survival spell but TWO HUNDRED EFFING SECONDS OF ONE OF THE MOST OVERDONE GIMMICKS IN TOUHOU FANGAMES and just like its predecessor the whole spell freezes while you're invincible and THE WHOLE SCREEN IS BLINKING WITH THOSE ARROWHEAD BULLETS but those bullets have such small hitboxes that on some waves you can actually just sit in a corner or something and the bullets that are supposed to punish you for it will miss you and JESUS FRIED CHICKEN THIS IS THE LAST SPELL IN AN EIGHT-STAGE GAME OF MASS MURDER and the spell card bonus is literally maxed out so it's obvious that this spell is purely there to troll the player and ruin runs. In case you missed it I'm somewhat upset about this design decision at the moment.
...Actually if at all possible could you say how you would unlock the spells in Spell Practice via hacking? I kind of don't want to have to go through Overdrive again especially since I have so much trouble with Himemiko. Will edit this post soon on what I feel about the new stuff when I get access to it :0
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...Actually if at all possible could you say how you would unlock the spells in Spell Practice via hacking? I kind of don't want to have to go through Overdrive again especially since I have so much trouble with Himemiko. Will edit this post soon on what I feel about the new stuff when I get access to it :0
The way I did it was to go to \script\Th_rss\scene\Road_Manager.dnh. Scroll down a bit and look for this code:
case( "OverDrive" ){
let stmax = 8;
let next = 1;
ascent( let i in 0..stmax ){
Index_Stg = GetAreaCommonData( "System", "Stage_Index", 1 );
if( Index_Stg == (i+1) ){
SetAreaCommonData( "Score", "StageNumD", Index_Stg );
/*Index_Stg = 7;*/
alternative( Index_Stg )
case( 1 ){ Road01(); next = 2; }
case( 2 ){ Road02(); next = 4; }
case( 4 ){ Road04(); next = 5; }
case( 5 ){ Road05(); next = 6; }
case( 6 ){ Road06(); next = 7; }
case( 7 ){ Road07(); next = 8; }
case( 8 ){ Road08(); }
The line in /* comments */ is the one I added. This will take you to Stage 7, the Extra, when you elect to play Overdrive. The background didn't work, and in the event that you actually clear the stage it'll take you back to the same stage, but whichever - all you really need to do is get to the boss. Replace 7 with 8 for Overdrive Phantasm. You'll want to move to the center of the screen for the start of Kiyohime's spell - it would be a shame if you got killed before the spell card gets declared.
You could rig up an Overdrive Stage Practice this way if you really wanted, but there's not THAT much difference in the later stages IMO.
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[attach=1]
change script/th_rss/enm SpellCardPath.dnh to practice OverDrive spellcards.
line X stands for menu/spell practice/overdrive/Spellcard X
eg: rename "./enm01/01_OverDrive.dnh" to "./enm07/07_OverDrive.dnh", you can practice Spellcard 9 by select Spellcard 1.
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Well I barely touched the game for weeks aside from that spell practice earlier but I finally 1cc'ed WNSP on lunatic lap 1 with Reimu A, with 2 and 4/6 lives left + 1 bomb to boot. Intense stuff. The weird part is that I even caught Sashiromiya's second spell, I never do good on that one but I didn't freak out and slipped through two sets of knives to make it through before it started over.
I'll get around to RSS some day. I know I ad libbed my way through extra to the final card (but died before clearing).
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The way I did it was to go to scriptTh_rsssceneRoad_Manager.dnh. Scroll down a bit and look for this code:
Hmm I might be missing something because even though I did that it always starts at stage 1 for me. I'd probably be super down with Overdrive if I can stage practice it.
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Hmm I might be missing something because even though I did that it always starts at stage 1 for me. I'd probably be super down with Overdrive if I can stage practice it.
? I... don't think I altered anything else... I've attached what the section should look like to this post, just to make sure.
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I've done penance for my cheesy FutoC run and put together two (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzPARn_5vs) videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5437nRSYpXA) showing all of the boss patterns on Overdrive. I think I make my thoughts on the last spell card rather clear.
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I hate this survival card, even when I played it at 30 fps due to my out-of-time computer.
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? I... don't think I altered anything else... I've attached what the section should look like to this post, just to make sure.
Aaah okay I was thrown off by the / and *'s and stuff. Thanks.
Did a quick new Overdrive 1cc with ReimuC. (http://www.mediafire.com/download/brfdbh9yaspw9ha/Overdrive1stclear.rar) Super fun mode and super great patterns.
While being kinda terrible for the normal mode, ReimuC actually seems really good for Overdrive.
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After 70+ attempts at Kiyohime's OD attack (I have a pretty souped up computer so the whole thing runs at 60fps making some parts impossible) I've decided just to give up. It isn't really worth it in the end and I'm kinda salty about the whole thing as well. There was so much they could've done with Kiyohime but instead they just used DBF for the sake of using it. Thanks ido/len/whoever is responsible for this. Rest of the patterns are really fun though.
EDIT: Nevermind I did it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJzj3hiVYY)
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omfg I blew her "sun" away...
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omfg I blew her "sun" away...
That happened in my blind run, and I thought it was something that was supposed to happen :V
It adds what you could call an element of challenge to the pattern.
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Uuhm uuuuuum. I think I just 1cc'd my first lunatic ever in RSS. *watches replay* HOLY FLARE I DID JUST 1CC LUNATIC. IS THIS WHAT HEAVEN FEELS LIKE!?
Also, is it just me, or is (hyper)ReimuA really good for both the phantasm stage AND boss?
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<does not play with hypers>
Most of Kiyohime's spells don't have a lot of HP and/or make it difficult to stay under her, so ReimuA's low shot power doesn't really matter as much until the last two spells or so.
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I guess that makes sense.
I don't use hyper for any boss. Except Kiyohime's Esp RA.DE spellcard because screw that and it's funny to capture that spellcard in about ten seconds with ReimuA, even if hyper.
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how can i get hint 6 and 7?
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I got hint 6 after I cleared 3 characters' first lap.
And may get hint 7 after their second lap.
then I found a bug in Raku_Kurama's profile (http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/White_Names_Spoiled_Past/Characters#Raku_Kurama)
世界を騙す大編集長
鞍馬 楽
not "編", you can find her character title in ..\script\Th_wnsp\img\character\raku\ename05.png
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Can someone provide an RSS download link?
I can't navigate the website in Japanese and translaters don't really help... not sure what is a patch and what isn't.
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Can someone provide an RSS download link?
I can't navigate the website in Japanese and translaters don't really help... not sure what is a patch and what isn't.
The entire package for this game can be downloaded from here: http://www1.axfc.net/u/3402547?key=mrkn_03_rss
v1.02b patch: http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/03/102b-7b7f.html
You will need your system locale to be in Japanese.
Also, with the Touhou 15 announcement, I'm kind of amused at how it sounds like ZUN got (partially) scooped by RSS, what with the ocean theme and tide jewels.
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Also, with the Touhou 15 announcement, I'm kind of amused at how it sounds like ZUN got (partially) scooped by RSS, what with the ocean theme and tide jewels.
No Futo Boat, I am disappoint. (not really)
Also, is ReimuA's new hyper as OP for the stages as it looks?
I can't actually play until later today.
Also I feel like an idiot... thanks :P
A very awful part of me wants to find a good use for the pun "Momohimesama". It really bugs me.
Was that intentional?
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No Futo Boat, I am disappoint. (not really)
It IS a nice boat.
Also, is ReimuA's new hyper as OP for the stages as it looks?
A quick test-drive suggests it is in most situations - the game is a bit easier when you only have to worry about large fairies and vengebullets. That said, have fun with the bosses.
Also I feel like an idiot... thanks :P
Aw, don't. The release of the latest editions of the game fell apart, and they untidily scrambled to pull everything together.
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A very awful part of me wants to find a good use for the pun "Momohimesama". It really bugs me.
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Either FutoA got a big buff or I didn't know how to use the laser coronas correctly
I don't remember her hyper being near that powerful.
EDIT:
.... Riverbed Soul Saver's stages are a clusterfuck on lunatic. :V
A good clusterfuck, even if it's difficult.
I didn't even get to Momohime =/
And then when I continued to unlock for practice it crashed and meant NONE of them were unlocked for pratice.... ufufu.
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Hmm, has anyone made an English patch yet?
I have no idea what's going on after playing through the game.
EDIT: nevermind, found a thread on it
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I know I'm way behind in asking this, but can anyone explain to me what the different shottypes do in WNSP? I feel like I'm using most of them wrong, because none of them seem even remotely as good as ReimuA. The wiki mentions that each character has special abilites. I've figured out ReimuA (you deal extra damage when close to the enemy) but I can't figure out any of the other ones.
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I know I'm way behind in asking this, but can anyone explain to me what the different shottypes do in WNSP? I feel like I'm using most of them wrong, because none of them seem even remotely as good as ReimuA. The wiki mentions that each character has special abilites. I've figured out ReimuA (you deal extra damage when close to the enemy) but I can't figure out any of the other ones.
Reimu B: Aimed lasers (Tokubi), Persuasion Needle (Reimu)
Marisa A: Shots that induce splash damage from a distance (Marisa), wider-spread Persuasion Needle-type shots (Shiragiku)
Marisa B: Shots that release smaller upward-moving shots (Shiragiku), lasers which are angled to join at one section to deal more damage (Marisa)
Sanae A: Wavy and fast TD-like shots that spread out (Sanae), slower but more concentrated spread that only is fired out from two familiars (Minayu)
Sanae B: Backward-firing aimed shots (Minayu), wide and fast straight shot (Sanae)
I don't even know how you can say that Reimu A is better than Sanae B, as uq/Vierne's playthrough proves that not only can you use Minayu to do crazy things above the POC to gain waaaaay more bokuyaku than everybody else, but you can also use the universal Sanae bomb to gain a huge amount of score-increasing petals.
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Kiyohime Overdrive remake, using various gimmicks from her fight and some other bosses! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDOs6iejP3o&feature=em-uploademail)
No more Danmaku Bounded Field :V
Anyone up for capturing this 8-minute survival? *Looks pointedly at ?q*
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Kiyohime Overdrive remake, using various gimmicks from her fight and some other bosses! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDOs6iejP3o&feature=em-uploademail)
No more Danmaku Bounded Field :V
Anyone up for capturing this 8-minute survival? *Looks pointedly at ?q*
I'll take a skip~
I know I'm way behind in asking this, but can anyone explain to me what the different shottypes do in WNSP? I feel like I'm using most of them wrong, because none of them seem even remotely as good as ReimuA. The wiki mentions that each character has special abilites. I've figured out ReimuA (you deal extra damage when close to the enemy) but I can't figure out any of the other ones.
This is what me and rsy_type came up with a while ago.
Reimu+Tokubi - Superb Homing Type
*Reimu - Standard homing amulets. The strongest unfocused shot in the game by a reasonable margin, believe it or not. Homing is super-awesome in WNSP.
*Tokubi - Particle/Wave shot. Deals game-highest damage if both particle shots hit something, but it's tough to get both shots to connect, especially if you and the boss aren't staying still. It becomes mediocre if one shot hits. Particle shots that don't connect with an enemy outside close range become waves that have virtually unlimited horizontal range but do minimum damage.
Basically, if you're using this shot and you're not always doing damage, something is horribly wrong - but you may not like how MUCH damage you're doing. It's okay to expect that a shotgun Reimu type is the best in the game, but it's so difficult to get the shotgun damage that it's actually kind of mediocre against bosses.
Tokubi+Reimu - Lenient Forward-Fire Type
*Tokubi - Homing lasers. The homing is a bit odd but it does just fine with one target. It's just barely weaker than the other Reimu shot unfocused.
*Reimu - Standard Persuasion Needles. rsy_type says this is the strongest no-gimmicks focused shot, and if it's not then it's close enough.
This is more or less the standard forward-firing Reimu that everyone knows and monopolizes.
Reimu's bomb is Fantasy Seal. The orbs all go off at once at the end of the bomb, so you get a period of invincibility before nuking a fair amount of the screen. Timing, etc.
Marisa+Shiragiku - Questionably Balanced Type
*Marisa - Fire bombs. The splash damage is pretty nice but not enough bombs hit for the shot to do more than minimum damage overall.
*Shiragiku - Linguistic double helix. Generic forward-firing. If memory serves this has smaller range than Reimu's needles.
This is almost certainly the worst shot in the game. Use Tokubi+Reimu instead.
Shiragiku+Marisa - Unwieldy Penetrating Type
*Shiragiku - Echoing shots. Shots bounce off of enemies and fall through them to hit things behind them. Looks neat but does minimum damage.
*Marisa - Gunship lasers. Shoots lasers that converge at a medium-distance point, but the angles are such that it's not that different from a forward-firing type. rsy_type says this does the same damage as the other Marisa type's focused shot, but I thought this was stronger in my tests.
This is only better than the other Marisa shot type. You'd think that with its low damage its piercing would be overpowered some other way, but I can't think of any time when I wanted piercing in WNSP.
Marisa's bomb is Master Spark. Lasts a long time, slows you down so much that it doesn't let you PoC, is surprisingly easy to miss enemies with, and even if it's a strong bomb (which I haven't tested) I'd be hard-pressed to say that it's actually more functional than any other bombs even during boss fights.
Sanae+Minayu - Variable Dispersion Type
*Sanae - Short-wave shot. Fairly similar to her shot in Ten Desires but with fewer obvious blind spots, I guess. Based on positioning hijinks it starts at minimum damage and can potentially do substantially more.
*Minayu - Water cannons. Damage is proportional to how long the water cannons hit a target, so closer is better. At best it's comparable with Reimu's needles, but with this shot you get better diagonal coverage.
This shot is okay. It's basically Tokubi+Reimu with more range, less firepower, and a better bomb.
Minayu+Sanae - Opposite Approach Type
*Minayu - Leaf homing. The leaves are fired behind you, follow a slooooow wide arcing loop if they target someone ahead of you, and individually the leaves do garbage damage. You really only want to use this from the PoC.
*Sanae - Green waves. A standard forward-firing shot. I want to say that it has more range than Reimu's needles, but less firepower, but I haven't actually checked the range and in my (however imprecise) tests this shot wound up being the best against a moving target.
For scoring, this is almost certainly your shot simply because of how well the leaf homing synergizes with Sanae's amazing bomb. Otherwise, it's fun and you don't have to fight Minayu.
Sanae's bomb is a full-screen slow-burn. Enemies drop petals continuously while they take damage.
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Basically, unless you're playing for score (read: bombing all the time) pick your favorite shot type from Reimu and Sanae and go with it - they're all pretty close to each other.
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I noticed there's something new on their site... and a rainy theme...? Perhaps their next one will have something to do with a rainy season case...?
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I noticed there's something new on their site... and a rainy theme...? Perhaps their next one will have something to do with a rainy season case...?
I, honestly, don't think you should get your hopes up; this game is apparently not like what the ido group has usually done. Besides, normally the cover would show up at least a month before the full game came out if there was a demo and such, and not be revealed immediatley.
I'm surprised that ido and Wanwan have mended their working relationship back together, as well.
e:Also interesting to note is that this site is apparently one of Maceknight's creation/relation, and he collaborated with Gore to make Re:Phantasmagoria of Imagine Breaker. Hm...
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Looking at it via Google Translate, it seems to be another project similar to Treasure Castle Labyrinth and Heavenly Gathering of Clouds. In other words, it's essentially the full Touhou package (music, scenario, characters), but without the actual gameplay aspect of it (which is kind of depressing, I'd like to see another actual game by ido :V), although instead of it being a collaborative music collection, ido and Wanwan are going to be the composers and that's about it (others are doing the scenario and characters despite it not being an actual game, more like the framework of one). Which reminds me, I actually did look a bit into Treasure Castle Labyrinth, and not only was the music pretty decent, the bits and pieces I was able to gather from the scripts are pretty interesting too (I kind of wish they were fully translated, but it seems no one wants to).
As for the name of the project, it's called 東方魔宝城 ~ Book of Star Mythology (Touhou Mahoujou ~ Book of Star Mythology, or Eastern Magic Treasure Castle ~ Book of Star Mythology). For some reason, the silhouette on the cover looks like Angra Menog from Devil of Decline, sort of.
EDIT: ...Or I misread the translation, the part I thought that said "this isn't a game" just means something like "we're only doing the music, we have nothing to do with the danmaku." So this IS going to be a game as far as I can tell. Ho boy, this is something to look forward to, even if it's just because I enjoy Wanwan's music. :V
Second Edit: Also, this game's apparently getting released at the next Autumn Reitaisai, so that should be roughly November-ish (I don't know when this year's is, I looked it up and I saw November was when last year's was, so about then).
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Translation of the blog post:
We have accepted a request from the circle "Mace's Secret Base", and will be participating in the production of the Touhou-style BGM collab project, "Touhou Mahoujou ~ Book of Star Mythology".
This is only a music project; there will be no actual danmaku.
The full version is planned for release at Autumn Reitaisai.
Contributing members
Scenario & text: Oyasu Miruka
Character design: Gagawa Ichi
Character art: ANMITA
Music (1 track each): ido / Wanwan
So it is in fact a collaborative music CD. Maceknight is the one in charge of the whole project, which has no relation to Heavenly Gathering of Clouds (despite following its general style). Miruka was the scenario writer for TLC, MPP and RSS, and Gagawa Ichi was the character designer for said games.
Here's the announcement video on Niconico: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26574655. I'm really looking forward to it!
edit: And here's my translation of the video text: http://pastebin.com/Jcxh5uBH why was the paste removed. give me a second
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...Damn. Well, I guess it is something to look forward to, but I kind of wish that when it comes out, the text for it can be translated (same for Treasure Castle Labyrinth and Heavenly Gathering of Clouds, I'm interested in the text they have even if there's no game attached to them).
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...Damn. Well, I guess it is something to look forward to, but I kind of wish that when it comes out, the text for it can be translated (same for Treasure Castle Labyrinth and Heavenly Gathering of Clouds, I'm interested in the text they have even if there's no game attached to them).
Oh, I can translate it when it comes out no problem! I love this sort of thing. I can also do HGoC and TCL for anyone who's interested (though I guess that'd be a topic for another thread).
Video translation attempt two: http://pastebin.com/LJiLWJbQ (here's hoping it doesn't vanish this time)
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Thanks for the translation. Seems to be a kind of supergroup effort for Touhou fan music, which is (*?ω`*) as heck.
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Apparently, something is going on. (http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/wip/)
I'm not sure whether this is real or a prank, but I'm pretty giddy over all this.
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This isn't actually an ido game. It started out as a collaboration music CD (like Heavenly Gathering of Clouds). Ido and Wanwan each composed one song for the CD. But the game itself is made by someone else (Mace's Secret Base). Essentially, it's a game made by an entirely different group. It may or may not be good to make a new topic for this.
But that's kind of irrelevant. I'm excited to see a new game in production! And it seems like they already have a good bit done.
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Huh, so they're going to actually make a game based off the music when originally it was just going to be a music collab? Huuuh. That's... kind of awesome. I just hope that the game itself is a little better than Mace's last production. I mean, Re: Phantasmagoria of Imagine Breaker was kinda okay, but who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Huh, so they're going to actually make a game based off the music when originally it was just going to be a music collab? Huuuh. That's... kind of awesome. I just hope that the game itself is a little better than Mace's last production. I mean, Re: Phantasmagoria of Imagine Breaker was kinda okay, but who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.
PoIB was abysmal.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think these are the same people as PoIB.
That was Maceknight, whereas this is Mace's Secret Base. According to their website, this group has never made a game before. Plus they're borrowing ido's engine (like WNSP did) which would be kind of silly if they already had the PoIB engine.
But they do have similar names, so like I said I could be wrong.
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Huh, so they're going to actually make a game based off the music when originally it was just going to be a music collab? Huuuh. That's... kind of awesome. I just hope that the game itself is a little better than Mace's last production. I mean, Re: Phantasmagoria of Imagine Breaker was kinda okay, but who knows, we'll just have to wait and see.
Mace didn't make PoIB, he did the music for majority of the ost. Gore was the creator of the game and also the one who did the art.
I could be wrong, but I don't think these are the same people as PoIB.
That was Maceknight, whereas this is Mace's Secret Base. According to their website, this group has never made a game before. Plus they're borrowing ido's engine (like WNSP did) which would be kind of silly if they already had the PoIB engine.
But they do have similar names, so like I said I could be wrong.
Mace's Secret Base is the name of Maceknight's website lol
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Book of Star Mythology has since been confirmed to be an actual game now, it has screenshots and everything;
https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/645584078364762112
http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/wip/
http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/09/post-03e1.html
If this means another thread, then that's fine by me; I just wanted to let everybody know.
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Book of Star Mythology has since been confirmed to be an actual game now, it has screenshots and everything;
https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/645584078364762112
http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/wip/
http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/09/post-03e1.html
If this means another thread, then that's fine by me; I just wanted to let everybody know.
We already knew since nine days ago. Thanks for the third link, though.
From ido's post it seems that the programmer is raichu.
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We already knew since nine days ago.
Nobody posted about it here, though (as far as I can tell), but I guess this is just for the ones that didn't know already :V
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Nobody posted about it here, though (as far as I can tell), but I guess this is just for the ones that didn't know already :V
I already posted a link.
Apparently, something is going on. (http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/wip/)
I'm not sure whether this is real or a prank, but I'm pretty giddy over all this.
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So the guy who did Youkai Kori Kassen is working on this, huh? Good to hear that, although now I'm certain the danmaku's going to be a little on the harder end of things.
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Triforce symbol for hard?
I want to see Easy/Lunatic.
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Triforce symbol for hard?
I want to see Easy/Lunatic.
If you look, Normal also has a Triforce symbol in one of them. I think it's to differentiate mode types. The Triforce symbol seems to signify some sort of Pointdevice-like mode, while the yin-yang seems to signify some sort of Legacy-like mode.
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I already posted a link.
Apparently, something is going on. (http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/wip/)
Oh, okay, damn. Apologies for my attention span. But atleast discussion re-ignited here?
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Ooh if the ANMITA I'm thinking of is the same person who's doing the character art in this game, then I'm pretty hyped for the whole thing.
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Judging by the visuals on the screenshots, I'm sure my computer is going to die
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I am always getting happy of this author's work. It is extreme high quality and compared to earlier work, this is again a next level. Seems like they are doing it LoLK style with the chapters and such.
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Imo it deserves its own thread.
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Random aside, looks like The Last Comer got a patch out of the blue, from a basic run of the Japanese through JParser, it's something about fixing the music.
EDIT: Looking at the contents of the patch itself, seems like they changed the way it works so it no longer has to rely on having two different files per track (before it had a "opening" and "loop" part of each track), instead only needing one file. I don't think it'll affect the English patch for the game, so it should be fine to just install alongside it.