Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Chaore on October 24, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
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oh shit chaore's at it again.
(http://i.imgur.com/LndIgnl.jpg)
Recently released in the Americas (And more?) has been MONSTER STRIKE, PAD's pog competitor.
Gameplay is pretty simple and fun- collect monsters (almost completely like PAD), flick them at enemies, destroy worlds, dodge danmaku spam for the enemies- laugh as you fire your excalibur in their face. Collection and monster growth is extremely similar to PAD- Except without skill ups, fancy that- and MULTIPLAYER, available through 'LINE'.
More 'indepth' info here, data is outdated atm, will swap when something better is available (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MIoyg9armWeXFy3A5JPyg7m0h7NSIzIor9pSv8odNOY/mobilebasic?pli=1)
It's available on IOS and android so far.
Click this on your phone for a free +1 roll from an invite (Will swap this to someone else's code once some people start sticking) (http://static.us.monster-strike.com/invitation/?i=439456071321&p=1&__from=email) DO THIS BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE IF YOU WANT TO USE IT, IT DOWNLOADS A CLIENT VERSION.
That code only works ONCE, but it's a great boon and it adds an extra try on your first reroll. It works once per device, so theres that. THIS IS DONE BEFORE TUTORIAL, CLICK AND DOWNLOAD FROM THERE TO USE IT.
Currently theres a Launch Event that gives +2 orbs per day, and makes every pull on the rem a gold egg, so it's literally the best time to start, thus why I'm quick hashing this for anyone interested.
What about rerolling if I want to?
Short text: At the moment, Arthur and Zeus are the top cards that remain great till JP- but other good keepable 5*s include:
Hunter King, Striker, Agnamute X, Corsair, Harley X, Agnamute (NOT the X, but still keepable), and Odin. These will remain 'keepables.
Other card considered under those but still pretty good include:
Nobunaga, Nobunaga X, Wildcat, Apollo X, Lancelot X, Nanami, Eclipse, Jupiter, and Merlin.
If you don't feel like rerolling basically any 5* with a laser is great, and any other 5* if you're just done with the slog. Rerolling is quick as you can skip the fusion (for benefit) and just quit the first dungeon it tells you to do.
Just tedious.
Happy Striking, Folks! Any other questions (about Line and such) just post here and I'll talk about it when I figure this shit out.
IDs:
Chaore: 439.456.071.321
jq1790: 277.098.477.792
Chirei: 770.760.828.778
ThirdEyeLem: 700.647.734.464
Sacchi: 328.977.340.536
Matsuri: 472.683.654.352
http://imgur.com/yz4dWUs
That's the QR code to scan into line for the MOTK monstrike group.
Line co-op is easy, join the group, post in it with the link for your co-op run, click it and wait for others to click it too to join it.
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This is the one that kicked PAD of the #1 spot in Japan, right? In English already? Didn't expect that. I wonder when that cat one will show up.
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This is the one that kicked PAD of the #1 spot in Japan, right? In English already? Didn't expect that. I wonder when that cat one will show up.
Yeah. It just came out yesterday- it was in announcement a while back but I don't think anyone noticed.
No idea about shironeko project.
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Oh look another mobage to waste time on
may as well get in while there will be new people here to play with
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also co-oping with someone for the first time gives 5 orbs, i forgot that
also a lot of 5* are currently still keepable so ask if you get one and like it while rerolling
edit: ON THE INVITE CODE, it's not an actual code, just a client version- click the link in the OP -before- downloading client to get the free roll.
Also, apparently the normal client doesn't allow you to use an invite client after, rip.
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All right, the team I've settled for is Hunter King, Amaterasu, and Dear Lotte. Hoping to get some cool stuff through Line Co-Op.
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I rolled Lancelot X (Differen than Lancelot) and merlin from a 10 pull.
ARTHURIAN LEGEND TEAM GO.
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The only thing I have against this game is that the damage numbers are unnecessarily high.
Despite that, the game is ridiculously fun (like holy shit).
I'm running Valk, Red Drake and Saya, I also found a Nobunaga helper AND NOBUNAGA IS APPARENTLY A CUTE ANIME GIRL IN THIS GAME
it's noah all over again
also 1 stam per 3 minutes what is this
Also, my ID is 328,977,340,536
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Who needs perfect aim when you have bullet spam? :D
ID is 700,647,734,464, look for ThirdEyeLem.
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Huh, so I apparently capped Hina, the boss of the 'Some Like it Hot' special dungeon. Wonder if she's any good once leveled? Didn't check what her skill was or her Bump thingie, but still. Getting an event boss from the first stage of one of those is bound to be rare I'd figure, so yay! I forgot to grab my ID before posting here and have to go to sleep, but I've got Eclipse waiting for anyone who wants his help. Chirei or Lem or Chaore can pass my ID along or I can later on if I remember.
Should get an ID list going in-thread anyway, y'know.
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Huh, so I apparently capped Hina, the boss of the 'Some Like it Hot' special dungeon. Wonder if she's any good once leveled? Didn't check what her skill was or her Bump thingie, but still. Getting an event boss from the first stage of one of those is bound to be rare I'd figure, so yay! I forgot to grab my ID before posting here and have to go to sleep, but I've got Eclipse waiting for anyone who wants his help. Chirei or Lem or Chaore can pass my ID along or I can later on if I remember.
Should get an ID list going in-thread anyway, y'know.
Yeah, I'll get to that- also a LINE group. And more on line, it's really simple to co-op and rewarding.
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I finally got enough fire stoan to evolve Amaterasu, and the 1.5mil exp fodder I got from maxing affinity with someone hit a mega fusion and gave her 3mil exp. Her active skill does massive healing now.
Yay, I no longer feel utterly useless.
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http://imgur.com/yz4dWUs
That's the QR code to scan into line for the MOTK monstrike group.
Line co-op is easy, join the group, post in it with the link for your co-op run, click it and wait for others to click it too to join it.
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Gonna post some IDs to get a friend list started for anyone else interested in playing the game. Chaore can append this to the OP whenever he gets to it.
Chaore: 439.456.071.321
jq1790: 277.098.477.792
Chirei: 770.760.828.778
ThirdEyeLem: 700.647.734.464
Sacchi: 328.977.340.536
Matsuri: 472.683.654.352
Also, some information that might help people out who are just starting. It's pretty obvious once you've dealt with it, but why not be better prepared going in?
Some enemies have special abilities. They include:
Shields: They'll have shields around them, protecting their weakpoint possibly. Keep hitting the shields and they'll break. Some characters have passives that let them shatter shields instantly.
Gravity Barrier: This annoying-as-heck ability projects a shadowy circle around an enemy. If your unit enters this circle, they'll lose a TON of speed as long as they remain. Some units ignore these and move normally.
Damage Wall: Some enemies will fire lasers along a wall, which will then be covered in colorful flames. Touch these walls when they're lit up and you'll get hurt. Bounce into em a bunch of times and it will REALLY suck, so be careful! As usual, some units are unaffected by Damage Walls.
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Shields: They'll have shields around them, protecting their weakpoint possibly. Keep hitting the shields and they'll break. Some characters have passives that let them shatter shields instantly.
Gravity Barrier: This annoying-as-heck ability projects a shadowy circle around an enemy. If your unit enters this circle, they'll lose a TON of speed as long as they remain. Some units ignore these and move normally.
Damage Wall: Some enemies will fire lasers along a wall, which will then be covered in colorful flames. Touch these walls when they're lit up and you'll get hurt. Bounce into em a bunch of times and it will REALLY suck, so be careful! As usual, some units are unaffected by Damage Walls.
Damage Walls are annoying, yeah...Having a team of Wall-immune monsters really helps. Gravity Wells can be bypassed somewhat with enough speed, and Shields can be ignored by Pierce-type monsters/skills.
Also, try to stay away from the edges of the screen if you can, it gets harder to pull back and aim towards the center the closer you are to the wall. Nothing's stopping you from making a shot that's near-parallel to the walls, but I like being able to aim directly at the monsters I want/need to hit. :V
Other tips:
-In a tight space? Take advantage of it and bounce your marble off the wall or the enemy monster, repeated ricochets will rack up massive damage.
-Get a Pierce-type monster ASAP, it makes it way easier to target weak points on bosses, or target a specific monster.
-This is just me, but stacking your team with spread shot and X-laser bump combos will cover the field and help you kill enemies faster.
-Don't worry about stalling for skills, but save them for when you fight a major boss in a dungeon, so you can kill them faster and get the speed clear bonus. :D
-Fuse Mormites/Morlyfes/etc to each other before throwing them on your units, you'll save a bit of money that way in the long run.
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About the Gravity Wells, you actually only lose speed when you enter the Well in my experiences.
Granted, this isn't actually something useful to know most of the time, but there's these times where the enemy with the gravity well is close enough to a well that the Well actually "enters" the wall, so if you get your monster between the monster and said wall, you can just bounce off it with no penalties.
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About the Gravity Wells, you actually only lose speed when you enter the Well in my experiences.
Granted, this isn't actually something useful to know most of the time, but there's these times where the enemy with the gravity well is close enough to a well that the Well actually "enters" the wall, so if you get your monster between the monster and said wall, you can just bounce off it with no penalties.
You're correct. Only when you touch the borders is the speed loss applied. It's interesting that you bring up the second scenario though - as the Monday (Hard) Sharls boss currently fits that bill. He has a gravity well on his second lifebar, and if you trap someone at the bottom of the screen, they can bounce away his entire lifebar unhindered since he's really huge. I recommend camping it really hard today to get Divine Sharls.
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
(http://i.imgur.com/cIRGsv8.jpg)
Context: this game has given me nothing but shit pulls and constant duplicates. According to advice among other players I was told to save up for a 10-roll to get a 5-star.
The results: I get a whole fucking bunch of 4* duplicates (that makes three Dear Lotta and SIX Matilda) and a 5* that is complete shit compared to what everyone else has.
I don't think I can ever complain about PAD's REM ever again. It's fantastic compared to this.
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make 6 luck valentine do it
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I just pulled as well.
...i got like 5 dupes and Striker.
I got yedah though! TURTLE HYPE.
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I don't really know what I'm going to do, ahahaha. I'm going to be left way behind while y'all are rushing ahead with your super strong stuff.
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I don't really know what I'm going to do, ahahaha. I'm going to be left way behind while y'all are rushing ahead with your super strong stuff.
honestly just keep running with hunter king
he's still viable even in JP and co-op normally needs 1 dude.
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Hunter King tho!
All I have is nobutt who is weak right now and will stay weak because redditmageddon is awful :fail:
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Hunter King tho!
All I have is nobutt who is weak right now and will stay weak because redditmageddon is awful :fail:
i'll trade you this striker for her he's supposedly some kind of godfest thing
nobunaga is cuter
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The ascended form of what I got does seem kind of promising. http://monst.appbank.net/monster/455.html
The stats, pierce, and anti-GB, at least. Not so sure about those skills. It's going to take a ton of work to get it there though.
Man I really needed something that can dish out good damage. I'm just going to keep pulling.
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why do you want someone with no butt
also her evo active has the word Overlord in it so I must attempt to main her by default
EDIT: Seems Monday Hard has two bosses. One is this mech guy who is nowhere near as big. Sad times if you get him instead.
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why do you want someone with no butt
also her evo active has the word Overlord in it so I must attempt to main her by default
EDIT: Seems Monday Hard has two bosses. One is this mech guy who is nowhere near as big. Sad times if you get him instead.
because cute, butts not required to be cute
honestly that's more the reason i'm still pulling, i don't think anything will really end up 'main over lancelot or arthur' for me so it's just collecting cutes and useful things
Like striker is basically light susano except he can't syncstrike with zeus (who is rampant)
edit: also yeah that guy actually looks rather good- that active is a delay which could be handy, and pierce is good as it is.
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The delay seems good on paper but in practice it takes an eternity to charge :v
And yes Zeus (aka "this guy is forcing us to stall forever so he can use his potentially good skill please wake me when you're done") is rampant and honestly I don't see his appeal-- at least in unevolved form. He seems to slow down very quickly.
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because cute, butts not required to be cute
honestly that's more the reason i'm still pulling, i don't think anything will really end up 'main over lancelot or arthur' for me so it's just collecting cutes and useful things
touche
Yeah I'm really just pulling for the same reason. idk how far in the game I can actually go before Val drops off in usefulness, but seeing as all the arthur/harley/odin masterraces on reddit are still adding me, people must not care as hard in this game or something. Hopefully nobutt will be evolved by the time I get to that kind of ridiculousness though.
I'm secretly still just pulling for vehicle girls don't mind me
Also I was told there would be a lot of plant monmusu and I still haven't seen a one
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I basically just want to get my Balk's Ascended form because she looks pretty cool, but I dunno exactly how to get her, I believe on of the pieces is a dryad? That's gonna take a while to get though.
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The delay seems good on paper but in practice it takes an eternity to charge :v
And yes Zeus (aka "this guy is forcing us to stall forever so he can use his potentially good skill please wake me when you're done") is rampant and honestly I don't see his appeal-- at least in unevolved form. He seems to slow down very quickly.
YOU BETTER BUCKLE UP BECAUSE HIS COOLDOWN GETS -LONGER-.
He does seem to get a laser ontop of his blast bump though, which is handy.
also oh jesus shit striker gets -double- EL lasers?! okay maybe i'll take this guy
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I've been trying to get the rainbow sword girl and it's like she never drops. She must be good. :o
(Also Chirei I'd ask on IRC but since my internet is dead pls refresh leilan)
YOU BETTER BUCKLE UP BECAUSE HIS COOLDOWN GETS -LONGER-.
Oh boy. It's a good thing there is no penalty for stalling, at least. Aside from, you know, taking a ton of damage while waiting.
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I've been trying to get the rainbow sword girl and it's like she never drops. She must be good. :o
Oh boy. It's a good thing there is no penalty for stalling, at least. Aside from, you know, taking a ton of damage while waiting.
Honestly looking at him
I think his active is meant to be ignored and he's supposed to just bash shit with pierce and his pretty nice burst combos.
I think event mons are just weird tbh
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(Also Chirei I'd ask on IRC but since my internet is dead pls refresh leilan)
I have done so
HIS COOLDOWN GETS -LONGER-
/me looks it up
26>30 turns
someone kill me now this is literally almost as bad as pad zeus
Honestly looking at him
I think his active is meant to be ignored and he's supposed to just bash shit with pierce and his pretty nice burst combos.
I think event mons are just weird tbh
I do have a few added, and this is exactly how I use him. I have never ever even gotten to use that active once. He does marvelous enough damage on his own, and moreso if your friend bump combos are positioned.
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Yeah I mean his active is very rarely worth the time. Most of the time it barely does 300k while Arthurs and even my Monster Slayer can outdo that when positioned properly.
Also ty Chirei
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I...think I did better than I deserve.
Three Sayas though, haha.
Also Merlin is totally cute and I wanna use her just for that.
EDIT: I just paid attention to their info...So much Null Gravity Barrier. It's...it's beautiful.
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Just started this. Got a Susano and Columbia. Both 5-star, but neither super high tier from what I've read.
I'm feeling lazy about rerolling and I'm already attached to Columbia - still, does anyone think these are no good for starting pulls? Or are starting pulls not as important as they are in pad?
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Just started this. Got a Susano and Columbia. Both 5-star, but neither super high tier from what I've read.
I'm feeling lazy about rerolling and I'm already attached to Columbia - still, does anyone think these are no good for starting pulls? Or are starting pulls not as important as they are in pad?
No idea about columbia, but Susano is pretty okay to be honest. Laser and a strong skill shot, I think he lacks null grav barrier to help though.
honestly if you don't want to, you can probably just start abusing co-op and such for more orbs to keep rolling, so feel free to keep.
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I've only been playing like 5 days. I have rolled the Rare Hatcher like 15 times. You can probably start with just about anything and in a few days at most get something really good.
Also I think Columbia's supposed to play pretty well. I believe Chirei has had some success with a friend-leader one, or her evo'd form which I think is called Independence?
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Just started this. Got a Susano and Columbia. Both 5-star, but neither super high tier from what I've read.
I'm feeling lazy about rerolling and I'm already attached to Columbia - still, does anyone think these are no good for starting pulls? Or are starting pulls not as important as they are in pad?
I love playing with Columbias. Her bump attack causes a 16-shot stream of dark homing shots that have smart targeting (If the enemy they were aiming for dies, they automatically u-turn and find the next living target). It's really consistent damage and helps wipe out trash. Her stats also look pretty good later as well.
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Okay! Starting off with Lancelot X after a few rerolls; ID is 304,897,897,895.
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Aaand I'm sticking with Striker. What makes him good, specifically?
My ID seems to be 778.502.384.729 so yeah.
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Aaand I'm sticking with Striker. What makes him good, specifically?
My ID seems to be 778.502.384.729 so yeah.
His final form gets two fuck off lasers on both sides.
He gets X-laser in his second too.
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I'm 695,952,156,152
After some rerolling ended up with a Wildcat off the in-tutorial pull and an Eclipse off either "finished the tutorial" or "day 2 login" (since it was riiiiiiiight at rollover) stones so I think I'm in business.
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well my phone is being incredibly shitty so it reset my data so I'mma just reroll until I get an Arthur or Striker again or something.
This sucks
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I managed to get my entire team (Valk/Saya/Jabbanero) to max level, now to get sharls to evolve them.
Is there an english wiki, yet?
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So I'm having a really bad time with every fucking mobage ever today so to make myself feel better I ragepulled even though I don't need anything
I got 'White Mage Christel'. Completely useless, but really cute. So I looked her up on the appbank and
(http://i.imgur.com/YvfOnWr.png)
I spy censorship :V
(to clarify, I don't actually care, I think she looks better in the English version)
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Almost all of the expies I'm getting are dark. This can't be coincidence - is this just how the game starts, or is it because of my leader, or what?
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Much like PAD, it is simply because dark Expies are the default and therefore the most common. Over the weekend there will be Shellmageddon, where you can get Maxpies as well.
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Almost all of the expies I'm getting are dark. This can't be coincidence - is this just how the game starts, or is it because of my leader, or what?
I'm going to assume bonus stages here. They alternate between Dark expies/Money turtles, and the battles DO get increasingly tougher despite being the same levels, so do not be surprised if they start doing very large chunks of your life later on despite being bonus enemies.
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I've been playing this here and there, co-op is hilarious with friends but the gameplay itself feels a little too mindless. A victory doesn't feel as rewarding as other games or maybe I'm still too early in the levels. When does the difficulty start to ramp up or require more strategy? It's also hilarious how the game throws money at you, I'm sitting on 6 million for just playing a few days.
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I've been playing this here and there, co-op is hilarious with friends but the gameplay itself feels a little too mindless. A victory doesn't feel as rewarding as other games or maybe I'm still too early in the levels. When does the difficulty start to ramp up or require more strategy? It's also hilarious how the game throws money at you, I'm sitting on 6 million for just playing a few days.
The 'Menagerie' series of Normals are I think the first that will make you work amd I hear the set after are a big step up from that.
For Events, maybe Savage levels for some things.
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The game definitely steps it up at the Menagerie levels, and beyond that is just too much for me right now. The first 13 or so dungeons are pretty simple and mindless but you start to see where strategy becomes necessary later on.
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I thought I'd give this a shot. Using a Matilda right now. I don't feel like rerolling, so I'm sticking with her.Also rolled again and got an Enfield. Game seems pretty fun and there's multiplayer. Big Plus. I don't care for the art that much though.
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The art is kinda meh. Just look at how big White Mage Christel's head is compared to the rest of the art. But there are other things that could be complained about.
Speaking of those, I randomly got a Divine Sharl hosting with randoms. We GO'd on the boss, though, but I stoned because that sharl seemed to be worth it.
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The art is kinda meh. Just look at how big White Mage Christel's head is compared to the rest of the art. But there are other things that could be complained about.
Speaking of those, I randomly got a Divine Sharl hosting with randoms. We GO'd on the boss, though, but I stoned because that sharl seemed to be worth it.
Trust me, it was probably. The amount of rage I've seen over not having them...
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The art is kinda meh. Just look at how big White Mage Christel's head is compared to the rest of the art. But there are other things that could be complained about.
Speaking of those, I randomly got a Divine Sharl hosting with randoms. We GO'd on the boss, though, but I stoned because that sharl seemed to be worth it.
With how hard this game vomits orbs at you, that was DEFINITELY worth it. Have fun using best shipgirl.
Also like PAD, art styles seem to be different from mon series to mon series. Some are glaringly worse than others, but I think some are pretty great.
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Just like PAD, it seems like the art is done by different people. Some of the art is really nice, while some... Not so much. But to call it all bad is kind of an overstatement.
EDIT:
Thanks to the help of Chirei and jq, he has ascended.
(http://i.imgur.com/M13BZXq.png)
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rip monstrike
(http://puu.sh/cDaIp/d2f31b275d.png)
Also, from the Monstrike thread on SA:
So, I found out about a super cheaty thing. If you're using line groups to co-op with others. You can run the one time bonus stage endlessly by reusing the same link instead of creating a new one inside the game. I hosted a Castle Redsrath bonus stage (which currently has 2x drops) and invited my friends over and over. Its basically running turtles on hard for 1 stamina cost. We maxed out all our monsters as well as maxed out affinity bonus.
Not sure if it goes away if you host another map or how this really works.
Sooooooooooooo. :V I mean we've noticed (and it got mentioned downthread there) that the link is always the same for a given person so it will go away if you host something else but. Hi. Turtles.
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"Immortals" are now available, including the spectacular
Tequila Marguerite and Gimlet Tini.
But of course, I pulled nothing but 4* on a golden 10-pull. Can we just say I have the worst luck at this fucking game orz