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First thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Second thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)
Third thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15370.0.html)
Fourth thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15728.0.html)
Fifth thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16090.0.html)
Sixth thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16209.0.html)
Seventh thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16326.0.html)
Eighth thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16604.0.html)
Ninth thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16767.0.html)
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Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG. It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon. It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained occasionally as rewards in-game), which allow increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more. If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any. (It's recommended you don't because you are almost guaranteed to be super frustrated at getting screwed by bad rolls ;_;)
You can control monsters from lowly slimes to mighty dragons to even super saiyan like Vegeta (above). They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.
If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/
A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine. It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare, like a 5-star beastie or a god. Great starters include any of the Chinese Gods, Ares, Bastet, Horus, Isis, Idunn & Idunna, Hermes, Archangel Lucifer, Odin, Loki, Persephone, Parvati, and many others. Feel free to ask!
List of friends:
hyorinryu 357.646.299
Suikama 348.941.282
SuikamaEX 396.277.239
Soichiro 389,177,249
triangles 322.456.235
Nobu 389,151,231
Arashi 361, 443, 282
Chaore 344, 844, 286
Ghaleon 374, 256, 217
Labuto 362,441,209
omgkitties 301,354,227
Twillsky 320,059,211
O4rfish 389,956,257
Mode 384,458,286
Arcorann 326,368,215
Yukarin: 394.177.213
Jq1790: 396,049,294
Pesco: 328 276 294
MJP: 370,479,279
Dibble: 314,673,283
Soichiro 365,853,281
Matsuri 358,689,277
Fast Fanatic 359,184,275
Sacchi Hikaru 385,394,297
rdj 338,277,280
Chirei 326,404,383
En 351,629,319
commandercool 312,728,337
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LAST TIME ON PUZZLE AND DRAGON BALL Z
Raphael might become pretty neat if/when uvos for him arrive. As it is, he's one half of a two-step Goemon/Zeus-Dios active, as was mentioned.
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useless pink dragon rolls for useless players
that is, unless Ruka is any more use than Kano
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useless pink dragon rolls for useless players
that is, unless Ruka is any more use than Kano
Well, she can play with new I&I, and if you're using a healer team, I think she had more health than Siren pre-ult evolution.
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Still wanting a Raphael for myself. Easy 16 turn nuke with no gimmicks. Just more light damage.
All of the light damage that I could output with Valkyrie (aaaagh why can't the PAD BT collaboration be here yet)+Regulus+TAMADRApurin+three row enhances...
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Still wanting a Raphael for myself. Easy 16 turn nuke with no gimmicks. Just more light damage.
All of the light damage that I could output with Valkyrie (aaaagh why can't the PAD BT collaboration be here yet)+Regulus+TAMADRApurin+three row enhances...
I wouldn't call it an easy 16 nuke, that's approximately 250 stamina per skill-up, and that's assuming you successfully clear and get a anglit every run.
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Still wanting a Raphael for myself. Easy 16 turn nuke with no gimmicks. Just more light damage.
All of the light damage that I could output with Valkyrie (aaaagh why can't the PAD BT collaboration be here yet)+Regulus+TAMADRApurin+three row enhances...
I'm glad at least you appreciate my analysis on why people who complain about Raphael aren't seeing the big picture ;-;
I wouldn't call it an easy 16 nuke, that's approximately 250 stamina per skill-up, and that's assuming you successfully clear and get a anglit every run.
Fanatic's able to consistently no-stone twinlits, so it's possible. :p
(and if only I could skill up my goddamn valk I probably could too <_<)
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On my old profile before I reset, I literally pulled Raphael three times in a row before getting any other gods.
This was... over 300 days ago, actually. So this was before there was any hint of an ultimate and there were hardly even awakenings to make him less bad.
Still, using Raphael offensively just requires a heartbreaker...
I would practice my Twinlits strategy more often if not for the fact I don't actually need Twinlits for anything. :V
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Fanatic's able to consistently no-stone twinlits, so it's possible. :p
It's the "actually getting the goddamn Angelits to drop" that's the limited factor here if you're like me :V
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I never knew PAD had promotional monsters like this. How many have I missed, and what were they?
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Can't really list, but there was a lot of them.
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Evangelion, Hello Kitty, Batman Arkham Origins, Final Fantasy Crystal Defenders, Ragnarok Online, Ragnarok Odyssey, and Dragon Ball Z, among others. But those are some of the most major-name ones.
EDIT: I suppose this is easier. Everything in white is what we've had in English versions, the rest are Japan only so far:
(http://puu.sh/9vEgf/f60efcb85b.jpg)
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oh yay daily gift dungeons
yay
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7-eleven
are you fucking serious
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are you fucking serious
yeah
minor collab, only a free feeder thou.
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You know I'm perfectly okay with having another seven magic stones over the next week.
NA love, finally?
I also figured out I can get RGB masks off the technical conditional dungeons, so evolved Gabriel get!
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PSA: Sonias are dragon types and count for zombie dragon, by the way.
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The Uttery Broken Piece of Shit Bird has arisen. (http://i.imgur.com/7wy7rne.png)
Because I got tired of waiting to get a dubmyth to get a Red Giant Gigas.
If they troll me again next friday my only option will be to evo Echidna. :/
Say, is heroes descended very hard to come by? I think I'm about ready to get my Horus team out.
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17 rolls on PAL...
...Green Dragon Fruit, 2 Blue Dragon Fruits and a Golden Keeper.
Y'know, between the last event and now I got 2 of each trifruit, 2 angelits and a Golden Keeper, I think the PEM likes me.
Also a Mystic Mask, yay! The less I have to run Wednesday Dungeon, the better.
This feels amusing. (http://i.imgur.com/AfklQ7Y.png)
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I have yet to get a single color dragon fruit outta pal eggs. Weird.
What a nice event. Buncha free leveling materials, more stones, more tamadras, more shots at Sandalphon skillups (oh god I don't look forward to doing this)...
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17 rolls on PAL...
...Green Dragon Fruit, 2 Blue Dragon Fruits and a Golden Keeper.
:persona:
In the past three rare evo events I haven't got a fucking thing. This one included.
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:persona:
In the past three rare evo events I haven't got a fucking thing. This one included.
You too? I mean, I don't have any USE for them, but still. ...technically a Red Dragon Fruit could be nice for the skillup chance, but that's different.
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i still have to get that devilit eventually for D/D haku.
PEM PLS
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So guys, quick questions, since I have the Not-So-Uttery Broken Piece of Shit Bird, is there any actual reason to give some attention to my Meimei?
I'm also considering trying Goddess Descended Legend once it's here because I have Raphael under my belt right now, but that would probably be a waste of stamina since my monored has no real way to deal almost 3 million damage before getting taken down. Maybe if I get a Horus team going, but that would require me to clear Heroes Descended first.
And speaking of Horus teams, a friend of mine told me that once I get a Hera I'll be able to do Hera-Is, and with Hera-Is I'll be making "one hell of a Horus team", how accurate is this? Especially since Ultra Gravity requires so many skillups to be used on Rainbow Teams.
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from what i know hera-is is an amazing sub for horus because with F/L you only need to fill one more color for a full rainbow team. Also, Hera-is is an amazing stat-stick plus you can't go wrong with gravity.
Meimei's getting her ult in like 4 months time so I guess you can level her up a little bit or something.
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So guys, quick questions, since I have the Not-So-Uttery Broken Piece of Shit Bird, is there any actual reason to give some attention to my Meimei?
I'm also considering trying Goddess Descended Legend once it's here because I have Raphael under my belt right now, but that would probably be a waste of stamina since my monored has no real way to deal almost 3 million damage before getting taken down. Maybe if I get a Horus team going, but that would require me to clear Heroes Descended first.
And speaking of Horus teams, a friend of mine told me that oncde I get a Hera I'll be able to do Hera-Is, and with Hera-Is I'll be making "one hell of a Horus team", how accurate is this? Especially since Ultra Gravity requires so many skillups to be used on Rainbow Teams.
All the reason you need. (http://i.imgur.com/JJ9JQax.jpg)
I'd work on Heroes first. Gravity used to be a staple back in the day. It's not as popular now that's a lot harder to stall, but Hera-Is is still pretty good. Just view her as a giant stat stick with a little bonus. If you have Blue Odin, I would use that instead, but few people have those.
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(http://i.imgur.com/c31UdIs.jpg)
I am a monster.
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"What's so special about thi--"
> The 1.2 million I was looking at is actually 12 million.
welp
Your Vampire Duke must absolutely love dealing pitiful damage though. :V
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Just realized something about this thread.
>Threads lock at about 1000 posts
>We have 9 completed threads
>This iteration is based on DBZ.
Too perfect, too perfect.
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Just realized something about this thread.
>Threads lock at about 1000 posts
>We have 9 completed threads
>This iteration is based on DBZ.
Too perfect, too perfect.
Mandatory. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik)
Also, what do you guys think of this team (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1244.99.1.0.0.0.6..912.99.1.0.0.0.5..1076.99.1.0.0.0.9..283.99.1.0.0.0.2..1253.99.1.0.0.0.4..1244.99.1.0.0.0.6..)? I've been thinking on an optimal Dragon-Based team since the release of rk3 and this is the best I can come up with.
Only as a theoretical team, of course, you'd need to be really rich to get a team like this.
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green is my ultimate bane
stupid green fruit dragon
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Welp, just ground out dragon zombie legendary with a double drawn joker team
That was certainly a thing that I did :|
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green is my ultimate bane
stupid green fruit dragon
This is how I felt about the Starling dungeon. I just couldn't do it no matter how I tried.
Meanwhile, I dropped Casablanca Master with my DMeta team like it wasn't no thing 8)
"What's so special about thi--"
> The 1.2 million I was looking at is actually 12 million.
welp
Your Vampire Duke must absolutely love dealing pitiful damage though. :V
Pandora, too. Believe it or not, they make fantastic DMeta subs and synchronize well. Combined, they effectively make a Triple Attack Stance - Dark, because Pandora eliminates all green and light orbs, changing them to dark and heart respectively, and Vamp changes all hearts to Dark, and the only colors that remain are blue (useless on this team) and red (which King Flamie uses, but has the dual purpose of breaking rows in half so I get TWO row enhance boosts instead of one.
That is what happened here. And then skyfalls.
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Got myself a Dragon Zombie, who is actually quite helpful for getting more Dragon Zombies.
Team was:
DJ/RSonia/Icedragon Plesios/Draggie(still lv. 3, haha)/evo'd Strawberry Dragon/(RSonia. Thanks, Edible!)
No danger, just took a bit of time since damage was crap since only half my team got the 2.5x boost, but even though I only did Master I got the DZomb AND a Bone Fish. Good times.
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(http://i.imgur.com/HO5jccLl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/HO5jccL.jpg)
Spent a stone because I tried a burst team for once. I probably need to Endless Corridors it up before I try that again.
(where have all the Lucifers and Odins on my list been lately ;_;)
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(where have all the Lucifers and Odins on my list been lately ;_;)
They all turned into burst leads or sonias, I bet :V
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Anyone got an idea when Hera will show up next? I'd like to finally face her dungeon correctly after having prepared before, even if she's not especially needed in any team I'll be using, unless I use her in my RSonia team for extra stats and I guess gravity, if a Sonia team can ever stall long enough(screw skilling her up, that's gonna SUUUUUUCK. Gravity has a minimim of what, 15, with a starting cooldown of 30?)
Hm, I wonder if I'll be able to maybe use my RSonia team at some point to take her...?
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Ronia will have a hell of a time getting through Neptune in Hera Descends. Everything else can inevitably be healed or killed at a fast enough pace.
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Just bring an armor breaker. Even a 50% knight would be good
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Just bring an armor breaker. Even a 50% knight would be good
An attacker demon would be good too.
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An attacker demon would be good too.
Oh hey, they're 3/5s of my current team anyway, or 2/5 if I get enough cost to use Zombie Dragon.
I should look at what his Def IS just so I know what to shoot for. I should probably swap in my Hellwind Taur Demon who's been warming the bench for a while...Though I'll probably try this run AFTER I get one Hera the safer way. Better save stones up for the inevitable 1-4 deaths...
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http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140613_sinka.html
Athena gets a 1.25x hp multiplier added to her leader skill and some extra awakenings (AWESOME but dem evolution materials),
while Izanagi's leaders skill becomes ATK and RCVx 3.5 while hp is above 80%.
Seriously, why do they even bother adding the extra recovery multipliers to "HP above XX%" skills? They've been doing it to many Sangoku characters and they all suck as leaders as a result. (and for some reason I ONLY roll those with these crap leader skills from the Sangoku series. At least Sun Quan has a powerful as heck active skill for healer teams though. )
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RCV bonuses when your HP is above 80% is completely fucking pointless. It would be actually usable (and quite good) if it was something like Above 80%, ATK 3.5x / Below 80%, RCV 3.5x.
In other news, a couple more red pengdras and I should have enough to get Ronia to max level. And then the real terror (skilling up) can begin.
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http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/140613_sinka.html
Athena gets a 1.25x hp multiplier added to her leader skill and some extra awakenings (AWESOME but dem evolution materials),
while Izanagi's leaders skill becomes ATK and RCVx 3.5 while hp is above 80%.
Seriously, why do they even bother adding the extra recovery multipliers to "HP above XX%" skills? They've been doing it to many Sangoku characters and they all suck as leaders as a result. (and for some reason I ONLY roll those with these crap leader skills from the Sangoku series. At least Sun Quan has a powerful as heck active skill for healer teams though. )
Why they're giving her a green row enhance is beyond me. Gungho pls...
I'd understand better if most of her stats weren't jammed into ATK.
Next thing, you know, they'll do something like make Raphael attacker or something.
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It would be actually usable (and quite good) if it was something like Above 80%, ATK 3.5x / Below 80%, RCV 3.5x.
Too good, pls nerf.
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Still less broke than ronia :V
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Why they're giving her a green row enhance is beyond me. Gungho pls...
I'd understand better if most of her stats weren't jammed into ATK.
Next thing, you know, they'll do something like make Raphael attacker or something.
You see, Green 諸葛亮 Attacker teams that abuses the recently added 1.5x ATK boost on 2-way awakenings are the new "DarkMeta team".
They actually did it right by giving Athena attacker type and also an extra 2-way awakening (bringing it to a total of 2, which means a 2.25x ATK for her boost whenever you line up 4 orbs). I'm not sure if people still does rows in that team, but having the option of doing so doesn't hurt I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un_zYS1hODE <-Just look at that raw power
They probably made her that way with that team in mind.
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You see, Green 諸葛亮 Attacker teams that abuses the recently added 1.5x ATK boost on 2-way awakenings are the new "DarkMeta team".
They actually did it right by giving Athena attacker type and also an extra 2-way awakening (bringing it to a total of 2, which means a 2.25x ATK for her boost whenever you line up 4 orbs). I'm not sure if people still does rows in that team, but having the option of doing so doesn't hurt I guess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un_zYS1hODE <-Just look at that raw power
They probably made her that way with that team in mind.
I would be okay with that if:
1. Athena was primarily green
2. Making a 6-orb row procced the 2-way thing,
But neither of those are true, so I'm thinking that green 2-way teams are going to want someone else. She has no RCV to speak of, her health quite mediocre, and they'll only access 30% of her massive attack. The only thing I could them really wanting a sniping color, and I'm pretty sure there are other alternatives that don't require to spam mythical desceding dungeons for a materials with only a 10% chance to invade.
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I would be okay with that if:
1. Athena was primarily green
2. Making a 6-orb row procced the 2-way thing,
But neither of those are true, so I'm thinking that green 2-way teams are going to want someone else. She has no RCV to speak of, her health quite mediocre, and they'll only access 30% of her massive attack. The only thing I could them really wanting a sniping color, and I'm pretty sure there are other alternatives that don't require to spam mythical desceding dungeons for a materials with only a 10% chance to invade.
I guess gungho just hate giving light teams row enhances lol
Although 2-way teams seems to have really limited choice of party members currently, evolving Athena is in itself a difficult task so I can't really imagine anyone that has the ability to do so to not have the perfect 2-way party already.
At least Athena is actually a usable leader now with that HP boost in the leader skill.
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I guess gungho just hate giving light teams row enhances lol
Although 2-way teams seems to have really limited choice of party members currently, evolving Athena is in itself a difficult task so I can't really imagine anyone that has the ability to do so to not have the perfect 2-way party already.
At least Athena is actually a usable leader now with that HP boost in the leader skill.
True. I just with she had a white row enhance. Well, she has a situational place in Kirin regardless, so...
Though, if I want an easy mode farm team, that's what valkyrie's for.
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Downloaded this Sunday night have and been playing it a little on my breaks at work. I'm sure I'm doing it all wrong, but I don't really care that much. I got a Sea Serpent from the rare monster machine and have been cramming junk creatures into it trying to make it level up.
Is there any way for me to get any of the Evangelion characters at this point? The wiki wasn't super clear about how the promotions work, but if I understand correctly they run for a short time and then they're done for good. Is that right?
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they run for a short time and then they're done for good. Is that right?
pretty much :derp:
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Well, it depends. I mean, we did get Batman back once after the initial round, so there's that. Eva may show back up eventually.
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Well, it depends. I mean, we did get Batman back once after the initial round, so there's that. Eva may show back up eventually.
It usually comes when something happens with the series- Re: Batman got a sequel or whatever when we got him back.
Japan got it back randomly with an ulti evo so we should expect him back at some point, realistically. Unless they're gonna screw us :v (or just add the ulti, likely)
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[21:44:45] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> shamelessly using a stone for 100 stamina more
[21:44:54] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> so much better than yolorolling
[21:50:26] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> all right, that's 3 rounds
[21:50:33] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> let's see if that gets me close to max Kirin...
[21:52:03] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> >28283 to 99
[21:57:01] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> <_<
[21:57:02] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> >_>
[21:57:27] Nadeshiko-Matsuri throws a fire golem, a bone fish, a shrimp, and an unevolved fourth angel at kirin
[21:57:29] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> yolo
[21:57:56] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> and that's my first level 99
:matsurismirk:
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqYtXZaCcAEIuIE.jpg)
Zhang Fei, green/red physical/attacker. Awesome.
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Physical and Attacker? Didn't know those two ever got mixed.
Also, where do people keep chatting about PAD? We got a channel for this?
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They never got mixed, this is the first time they ever mix any of the "main" types (Which would be Attacker, Physical or Healer.)
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Physical and Attacker? Didn't know those two ever got mixed.
Also, where do people keep chatting about PAD? We got a channel for this?
#puzzleandlibrarians on PPIRC.
Wherein we despair over mobage in general.
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Needing monster attributes to be maintype to count for Conditionals bites. *stares at Strawberry Dragon and Barbados, tries to push them through the door to Tower of Windy Woods and sees them not budge* Guess I have to wait til next Tuesday and evo my Ogres after all.
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So, since Sapphire Dragons is still 9 hours away, I decided to run an easy dungeon with my Horus team, just to see how it would go... I did about 10 orb movements in total, I got the x16 on 7 of them, 2 of them were because of skyfalls, however, I did not get the x25 bonus.
That is, until the boss, at which point, skyfalls happened (http://imgur.com/Ag8qdjy.png).
End Result. (http://imgur.com/phchaNk.png)
Though you can't actually see my Horus's damage properly, he's stronger than my Friend's Horus, as in "level 80 with +28 to ATK vs level 78 with no + eggs" stronger.
So yeah, once I can actually get my Horus Team going, this is going to be a blast :o
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Start grinding Hyperion Lava Flow, I'm suddenly one million coins poorer just from + eggs costs alone!
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Start grinding Hyperion Lava Flow, I'm suddenly one million coins poorer just from + eggs costs alone!
What I do to avoid going broke is I wait until I have like 5-6 guys for plus fodder, then take one of them and merge them together. I do this until they're like +12~20 and then feed *that* to the main 'mon that I intend to receive the +. You'll still feel your wallet hurt, but not as much as if you keep feeding one at a time, especially at high +.
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Given that I'm only a few days in, what should I be hanging onto from my early drops? Is there anything I'm going to want for later? What are Tamadras for and how many should I have? What about +1 monsters? How rare exactly are they, and how long should I wait before using them?
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Given that I'm only a few days in, what should I be hanging onto from my early drops? Is there anything I'm going to want for later? What are Tamadras for and how many should I have? What about +1 monsters? How rare exactly are they, and how long should I wait before using them?
What all have you gotten from the Rare Egg Machine so far?
TAMADRAs are special material monsters that won't matter until you have a monster in its final evolution. At that point, most obtain what are known as 'Awakenings', special passive boosts to damage, HP, RCV, or other nice effects. It seems common to hve a bunch when you dont need em, and never enough when you want them. They're also worth 10,000 Exp. (15,000 for Light monsters)
What dungeon are you in and what does your current team look like? A decent very-beginning-game monster might be the Red Goblin(or Samurai Goblin if you evo it once) since it carries Attack Stance-Fire. Likewise for a defensive option, the Blue/Marine Goblin is good for Defense Stance - Water. They won't be useful past the first few dungeons, but at least it'd give you some orb manipulation.
Depending on how far you are some of that might not apply exactly as stated.
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Given that I'm only a few days in, what should I be hanging onto from my early drops? Is there anything I'm going to want for later? What are Tamadras for and how many should I have? What about +1 monsters? How rare exactly are they, and how long should I wait before using them?
If it's 2 stars or less it's most likely trash that you're going to dump later, with the exception of your starter dragon if you're still using it. If can go to 3* and up, it might have a niche somewhere. It's really a case by case basis though. Don't be afraid to ask about it.
TAMADRAs are for unlocking the skills of your guys when they're fully evolved. They can range from stat boosts to free heals to taking the number of turns you have to wait for a skill to come the first time around. I wouldn't go out of way for them early on, in fact, if you know that a letter contains a tama, don't open it, or it'll take up space.
+1 monsters, are monsters with a bonus stat somewhere. If you feed a +1 to another +1, it'll become a +2 with both stat boosts. It's reccomended you concentrate all your +s in one guy. However, feeding +s is expensive, so try to minimize the amount of + feeding you do.
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What all have you gotten from the Rare Egg Machine so far?
Sea Serpent. I've only used it once. I have ten magic stones.
TAMADRAs are special material monsters that won't matter until you have a monster in its final evolution. At that point, most obtain what are known as 'Awakenings', special passive boosts to damage, HP, RCV, or other nice effects. It seems common to hve a bunch when you dont need em, and never enough when you want them. They're also worth 10,000 Exp. (15,000 for Light monsters)
Oh, okay. The game has given me one a day so far, and nothing is anywhere near fully evolved, so I might just feed them and hope I keep gaining them at this rate for later. Right now they don't seem to be worth the slots.
What dungeon are you in and what does your current team look like? A decent very-beginning-game monster might be the Red Goblin(or Samurai Goblin if you evo it once) since it carries Attack Stance-Fire. Likewise for a defensive option, the Blue/Marine Goblin is good for Defense Stance - Water. They won't be useful past the first few dungeons, but at least it'd give you some orb manipulation.
I'm on Demeter Forest. This is my team:
Sea Serpent 29
Brachio 13
Pyro Demon 9
Yellow Carbuncle 6
Black Fighter 8
It seems pretty terrible. Only the Sea Serpent and Pyro Demon have anything resembling damage output, but I haven't really picked up anything better to replace the dead weight yet. Or maybe I have and I just don't know what to look for.
If it's 2 stars or less it's most likely trash that you're going to dump later, with the exception of your starter dragon if you're still using it. If can go to 3* and up, it might have a niche somewhere. It's really a case by case basis though. Don't be afraid to ask about it.
So the evolution materials are easily replaced then? My box is mostly clogged with Dragon Seeds, Dragon Plants, Dragon Fruits, and various masks right now.
TAMADRAs are for unlocking the skills of your guys when they're fully evolved. They can range from stat boosts to free heals to taking the number of turns you have to wait for a skill to come the first time around. I wouldn't go out of way for them early on, in fact, if you know that a letter contains a tama, don't open it, or it'll take up space.
Oh, good call. I'll just stop opening the letters until I need them.
+1 monsters, are monsters with a bonus stat somewhere. If you feed a +1 to another +1, it'll become a +2 with both stat boosts. It's reccomended you concentrate all your +s in one guy. However, feeding +s is expensive, so try to minimize the amount of + feeding you do.
I have two so far. What should I do with them? Leave them for later? Combine them so they take up one slot?
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Combine the + monsters would be a good idea.
As for the materials, Dragon Seeds are fairly useless past the first few levels, Dragon Plants are insanely important, because they evolve Pengdras which are the single best way to get monster EXP outside of Jewel Dragon Dungeons, though you won't get to that until you're past the Castle of Satan and into the Technical Dungeons. Dragon Fruits are somewhat important as in they're fairly hard to get but also aren't really used for much, they only appear in very high level dungeons or in the thursday dungeon.
As far as masks go, normal masks are easy to get, Demon masks are rather tricky, but doable, you should try to keep any Divine Masks you get because they can be fairly annoying to get (I spent 2 weeks farming for a red one) and Mystic Masks should essentially be hoarded.
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Sea Serpent. I've only used it once. I have ten magic stones.
Oh, okay. The game has given me one a day so far, and nothing is anywhere near fully evolved, so I might just feed them and hope I keep gaining them at this rate for later. Right now they don't seem to be worth the slots.
Don't feed those TAMAs. Use like 5 magic stones on box space. Considering that we are long overdue for Egyptian, the next godfest might actually be worth it.because they evolve Pengdras which are the single best way to get monster EXP outside of Jewel Dragon Dungeons,
Evolving Pengdra is not as effective as you might think. Getting the dragons and plants for it will take up a bunch of stamina which you might as well have used on doing T4/5 dungeons and getting the possibility of +1s and rank exp.
Also the best are globe dragons.
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Well yeah, Snow Globe Dragons are the absolute best but come on, how often do we get one of these? :V
Unless you're actively asking for Friend Presents, of course.
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I would say King Carnival at a high rank is best personally because at least those are farmable :p
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finally evolved my DQXQ in my alt
yaaay
on another note please pal egg machine give me a devilit already
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Don't feed those TAMAs. Use like 5 magic stones on box space. Considering that we are long overdue for Egyptian, the next godfest might actually be worth it.
If I do that I won't be able to afford using the machine to try to fish for godfest stuff though. I only have enough points for two tries right now.
Also I just got a Baby Tamadra. What's different about that one? Does it do something different?
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If I do that I won't be able to afford using the machine to try to fish for godfest stuff though. I only have enough points for two tries right now.
Also I just got a Baby Tamadra. What's different about that one? Does it do something different?
50% chance to awaken compared to a normal, can evo into a normal tama.
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If I do that I won't be able to afford using the machine to try to fish for godfest stuff though. I only have enough points for two tries right now.
The next godfest might be worth it, but a couple of stones should go into box space now. You'll get some stones back next event anyway.
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50% chance to awaken compared to a normal, can evo into a normal tama.
In other words, evolving them is a hassle just feed those babies to your mons and hope for the best 8)
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The next godfest might be worth it, but a couple of stones should go into box space now. You'll get some stones back next event anyway.
I just noticed the current rare machine conditions, decided that I was tired of sitting on these stones, and tried twice on the rare machine fishing for a good Light monster to replace my crappy one. I didn't get a light creature, but I did get a +1 Slyph and a Lovely Maiden, Princess Valkyrie. Are either of those any good? Valkyrie seems kind of neat, but she costs as much as my entire team right now, so I don't know if she'll be exceptional by the time I can actually use her.
Also, what are metal dragons for?
Are the snow globe dragons any good for battlin', or are they just food?
Should I be doing anything with the space invader-looking guys from the current collaboration? I got a blue one, is it useful for anything?
What are the odds your skills will power up when you feed something with the same skill? I fed my Pyro Demon something else with Bomb that I got out of the Pal Machine, but I didn't notice that his Bomb got any better.
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I just noticed the current rare machine conditions, decided that I was tired of sitting on these stones, and tried twice on the rare machine fishing for a good Light monster to replace my crappy one. I didn't get a light creature, but I did get a +1 Slyph and a Lovely Maiden, Princess Valkyrie. Are either of those any good? Valkyrie seems kind of neat, but she costs as much as my entire team right now, so I don't know if she'll be exceptional by the time I can actually use her.
Festivals are kind of terrible and not worth rolling for. I am like the one exception because I did that once and got both Chiyome and Shiva.
But ask me how murako fest went. Fucking ask me.
As for your pulls- Sylph is meidocre, tbh. She'll probably be somewhat useful and endgame her awakenings are p.okay. You can make use of her.
Blue Valk is... not the greatest pull at this point, but a stupid random lucky pull. Her active is great and as a leader skill you can make an easy burst healer team. So...yeah, that's not a bad pull actually.
Metal Dragons are food. Snow globes are usable 2x hp/Rcv leaders, but mostly food with how common those are becoming, the space invaders can be used as subs because they have some neat skills and at this point they're good for you.
Skill ups are 10% normally, 20% with x2. It's awful.
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I just noticed the current rare machine conditions, decided that I was tired of sitting on these stones, and tried twice on the rare machine fishing for a good Light monster to replace my crappy one. I didn't get a light creature, but I did get a +1 Slyph and a Lovely Maiden, Princess Valkyrie. Are either of those any good? Valkyrie seems kind of neat, but she costs as much as my entire team right now, so I don't know if she'll be exceptional by the time I can actually use her.
Ahahahahahahahah you got a valk so early :getdown:
Valkyries are great. Use her as you please.
Sylph is situationally good for its skill, I suppose?
Also, what are metal dragons for?
Literally EXP fodder. Small metal dragons are pretty much worthless though, at only 1000 EXP a piece. Just fuse them on to weak stuff.
Also sometimes used as evolution material.
Are the snow globe dragons any good for battlin', or are they just food?
Snow globe dragons have good leader skills (they basically have the same leader skills as the Archangel series, x2 HP and RCV for their color, which is pretty great when you pair it with a friend of the same kind), but overall have poor stats. Use them as EXP fodder on the same color. (It's 1,000,000 EXP at max level for off color, 1,500,000 for same color.)
Should I be doing anything with the space invader-looking guys from the current collaboration? I got a blue one, is it useful for anything?
For the point where you are, collect the red and green ones and evolve them. Double Attack Stance skills are super useful.
What are the odds your skills will power up when you feed something with the same skill? I fed my Pyro Demon something else with Bomb that I got out of the Pal Machine, but I didn't notice that his Bomb got any better.
Low. Very, annoyingly, extremely low. This is one thing that makes me really angry about PAD honestly, because it's so intentionally obtuse and difficult to do sometimes. Especially for REM monsters who only get skillups only from invades (aka "random appearances") in event dungeons. You'd be lucky to get one or two and extremely lucky for the skillup to actually happen.
EDIT: eh, chaore beat me. Whatever, still posting
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poring tower returns!
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poring tower returns!
I thought we were overdue for it. Good hing I got another Valkyrie. Not I have a 2nd copy of every heartbreaker to feed. Got an Angelion as well as a 2nd Vampire Lord. If I feel like it, I can even feed yet another mermaid, but I already have three blue heartmakers, so I doubt I will.
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Saori, reincarnation of Athena
Healer / God
Active: heal to light orbs and dark to heal orbs.
LS: 3.5x ATK when below 99% HP
holy shit who needs valk
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holy crap
dat god
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So now we have Athena and her incarnation.
MAYBE WE'LL GET SEIRYUU, KIRIN, KOURYUU AND THE OTHER ACTUAL CHINESE GODS TOO GUYS!
(And obviously, Kirin is essentially a better version of Sakuya, because why not.)
Yes I'm aware this is of the Saint Seiya Collab, I'm just joking.
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holy crap
dat god
also she has light row awakening, skill bind resist, and TWO skill boosts
pretty much no reason to run valk over her unless you really need the low cooldown
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So she's the 1% roll?
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also she has light row awakening, skill bind resist, and TWO skill boosts
pretty much no reason to run valk over her unless you really need the low cooldown
Valk would still have a place there as a sub(to break Saori's hearts,) unless you want to Patricia instead.
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Poring tower is coming back omg
I am gonna get SO much revenge from last time and breeze through it
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Poring tower is coming back omg
I am gonna get SO much revenge from last time and breeze through it
What happened last time?
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What happened last time?
demons happened :V
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poring tower fucking finally
max skilled valk here i goooooo
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(http://i.imgur.com/bvTBODc.png?1)
What do you know.
Weekly complaining about TOO MANY DEVILITS (I got another one out of the goddamn egg machine today the hell) finally paid off.
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What happened last time?
I was stuck playing stall-style Lucifer and could not even scratch the fucking demons. Which meant it often took me an hour to clear the hardest difficulty. And even then I only ever got one poring to drop.
It was a fucking nightmare.
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After 3 runs of dropping absolutely no Dubmythlits, I get two in a single run due to Boss Drop + Invade.
Huh.
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welcome to rng based games
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Well, guess what those dubmythlits got me?
(http://puu.sh/9CMlr)
GGGGGGGGGGGREAT
Okay, next up is Echidna. I should need rank 106 to get her uvo.
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Triangles I have a question!
What mons consist your KST Metatron team and how much HP does that team have?
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Well, guess what those dubmythlits got me?
(http://puu.sh/9CMlr)
GGGGGGGGGGGREAT
Okay, next up is Echidna. I should need rank 106 to get her uvo.
It's still a load of crap that King Flamie is in his picture and he's not an Attacker. We could even argue precedence with mr. Riding on a Tiger now.
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Weekly complaining about TOO MANY DEVILITS (I got another one out of the goddamn egg machine today the hell) finally paid off.
I have pulled six green trifruit out of the pal machine events so far. One today and another yesterday.
It's never even any of the other two colors. I have no idea what to do with them.
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Triangles I have a question!
What mons consist your KST Metatron team and how much HP does that team have?
Varies on what I'm running and need. For Twinlits (with what you've been mentioning in thread I suspect is the case) I run D/D Lilith, King Shynee, Valk, and plain ol' EoS Echidna. Everyone save Lilith is max level and she's at 98. With a bunch of +eggs, I'm at 9725hp and with the magic number being 12025 I do have some wiggle room in how beefy a friend leader I can get away with.
The catch was I was not able to reliably 0-stone it without both poison (fuck you dublits) and delay (I'd risk wiping out the babytamadra too fast) and Echidna is bad in the HP department :ohdear:
If you're really in a pickle you could switch out the Shynee for Sandalphon. Bit harder to get his skill up for the boss and you get less of a multiplier for the final nuke, though you'd have no problem getting Echidna charged for the boss if you need to run cleanup - I always pop her just in case.
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>poring tower opens after skill up x2 ends
of course
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Wow, so I notice the Friday Dungeon is still up and do another run and then I get another Invade + Boss Drop.
This is literally the best Friday I've ever had in terms of dubmyths lol
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SQUEEEEEE
It only took like two months after the actual Shore Maiden dungeon ended.
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Oh neat, my Sky Fruit, Strawberry Dragon is fully awoken now. Will be quite the fire sub. Two skill boosts and two row awakenings are delicious.
Can't wait for the chance to skill some stuff up with Poring Tower, even of one is a first form monster simplt because needing two Mystic Masks sucks. *stares at Highlander*
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At what point will it be practical to use my Lovely Maiden, Princess Valkyrie? I can make teams of up to 43 points, and she costs 30. Would running her with some filler be practical? Are there certain monsters that are good at filling in teams like that, or is she not going to be practical until I can make like 100 point teams? What should I be picking up and working on now to go with her in the future? What should a team built around her look like?
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Hi I just started playing today \o/
I'll be stumbling around until I get the hang of things. (General advice would be appreciated.)
And before I forget, my ID: 398,822,333
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First off, I suppose I should ask, who did you get on your "free roll"? That's probably the most important part.
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Oh neat, my Sky Fruit, Strawberry Dragon is fully awoken now. Will be quite the fire sub. Two skill boosts and two row awakenings are delicious.
Can't wait for the chance to skill some stuff up with Poring Tower, even of one is a first form monster simplt because needing two Mystic Masks sucks. *stares at Highlander*
I think I actually max leveled my first form Highlander off Poporings last time we had Poring Tower, they're good XP. :V
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I think I actually max leveled my first form Highlander off Poporings last time we had Poring Tower, they're good XP. :V
Oh, mine's already max level; I just haven't felt like dealing with the crap that is trying to get TWO Mystic Masks to evo the darn thing. I've owned one, ever, which I forget who had needed it, probably RSonia.
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First off, I suppose I should ask, who did you get on your "free roll"? That's probably the most important part.
I got Drall on my first roll.
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Serious advice: Clear data and restart. Reroll until you get something from the high tiers here: http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/New_Players'_Guide#Starting_pull
Drall is really a common pull from the rare egg machine (and it's not going to be much help to you honestly because what you want is something with a good leader skill), so keep rollin' until you get something better. You'll know when you're on the right track, it'll be a gold egg.
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Huh, so I'm at Ocean of Heaven now? I'm relatively close to endgame, aren't I? I know this has Mystic Masks, and there's Neptune to prepare to fight, but am I right in my memory of what's to come? This should be the final tier or the one right before it, right?
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There's only one tier of elemental dungeons after the Ocean of Heaven, then we have Starlight Heaven, and then you get access to the Legendary dungeons (Legendary Seaway and Legendary Earth).
Which you probably won't be able to do at the time due to sheer stamina cost.
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Finally a mythical dungeon that looks perfect for Isis to handle. (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=746) Just look at all that red :V
Also dat final boss just says fuck you to all Ronias and Pandoras
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Finally a mythical dungeon that looks perfect for Isis to handle. (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=746) Just look at all that red :V
Also dat final boss just says fuck you to all Ronias and Pandoras
oh right, that disgusting shit
i can probably shiva that still as long as i leave enough colors for 2 rows and 3 matches
that might be hard to do though
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Looking at the Saint Seiya monsters on PDX.
>Gold Saint, Gemini Saga
>Active gives you 12 second CTW
That's...Well, calling it 'Another Dimension', if that translation sticks should it come here, sounds about right.
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Holy shit it's farmable too
>28 turn cd
welp :V
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Though you CAN skill it down to 18, I imagine it will still be more a novelty than anything else. It's no less hilarious though.
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Still not 20 seconds.
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0 skill ups for I&I. whatever.
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Poring tower loves to give me porinrings. I DON'T NEED THOSE I NEED GHOSTRINGS AND DROPS
;-;
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I cleared Poring Tower Master in four minutes. Take THAT, irritating grudge of the past!
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So what is Poring Tower and should I go there? What drops there that people use?
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mainly skillups
valk, lilith, berserk, highlander, red heartbreakers, vamp, angelion, siren
very useful
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http://puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=409 You're going to want to keep this site handy; it's got everything you would ever want to know.
Poring Tower is basically a reoccurring collab event dungeon that has all of the Ragnarok Poring type enemies in it (aside from Archangeling and Deviling, those show up elsewhere). All of the poring type enemies in here come automatically at max level (1) and at your point of the game, they may even come in handy for you in your team for a while. On Master level, you'll fight Demons, which are complete ASSHOLES if you don't have the ability to break their defenses. On Expert and Intermediate, Big Slimes will drop.
What is special about this dungeon is that these poring enemies don't need to be leveled up or evolved to be skill-up fodder (which is a very good thing) and they provide five kinds of skill-up that you won't find outside of event dungeons or REM pulls:
Poring: Armor Break: Skills up Machine and Dark Golem
Poporing: Attack Stance - Wood: Skills up Highlander
Drops: Attack Stance - Light: Skills up Valkyrie
Marin: Attack Stance - Water: Skills up Siegfried and Blue Valk.
Ghostring: Poison Mist: Skills up Lilith.
What this means for you, however, is that you are going to want to collect Marins, the blue blobs. Not only will they be good exp fodder for your Blue Valkyrie, but they also have the ability to level up her skill (which means that the higher the level her skill is, the fewer turns it takes to charge). Valkyries in general are what are known as Heartbreakers (along with Gigas, Siegfried, Cu Chulainn, and Vampire): they take heart orbs and turn them into some other color. Very useful if you're running a monocolor team. What is special about them is that at max level, they can use this skill every 5 turns (which is extremely valuable).
Also, fusing a Poring, Marin, Drops, Ghostring, and Poporing onto another Poring will evolve it into a Mastering, which has one of the best HP multipliers in the game. Fuse five Masterings onto a Mastering to make a King Mastering, which is even better because it comes with an attack boost. However, this requires a TON of Porings to drop and... they don't drop very often, even on Master.
So I suggest running Int or Expert (trust me, save your sanity and avoid Master right now, you probably won't be able to handle it) and collecting Marins and fusing them onto your Valkyrie. Keep one of every other poring type too, because they may be useful for you early on in the game.
Also, less importantly, the Big Slimes are on those levels. This doesn't mean much because they're easily farmable from the lowest dungeons of the game, but they come pre-evolved, which is also nice. They skill up some nice things too but I don't think you have any of them at the moment. You're going to want a Mermaid/Siren at some point because she'll be a perfect sub for your Valkyrie though, (she changes fire orbs into hearts, which can then be turned into water by Valk), and she's skilled up by Big Bubblies and Marine Goblins and such. Just a heads-up for later.
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(http://i.imgur.com/n2eH2EM.jpg)
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Useful information
Excellent, excellent. Thanks. Yes, I can see how that would be good for me.
And yeah, somebody on my friends list has a Siren and it seems like it would be great for me. That site you linked lists some of the Mermaid drop locations as [N] and some as , what does that mean? I'd like to have one of those as soon as possible.
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Ha! I just misclicked rare egg machine instead of Pal machine and got a second +1 Valkyrie in a row. This time it's the light one.
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Lucky. Start collecting Drops, too, then. We haven't had poring tower for 5 months now so get as much done as you can.
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Excellent, excellent. Thanks. Yes, I can see how that would be good for me.
And yeah, somebody on my friends list has a Siren and it seems like it would be great for me. That site you linked lists some of the Mermaid drop locations as [N] and some as , what does that mean? I'd like to have one of those as soon as possible.
The N denotes normal dungeons. You might die of old age before a Mermaid drops from those though, so good freaking luck. Most of the bosses in Normals that drop have terrible rates so it's not the most recommended method.
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It's also worth mentioning that if you're hunting for king slimes Poring will save you a lit or two.
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The N denotes normal dungeons. You might die of old age before a Mermaid drops from those though, so good freaking luck. Most of the bosses in Normals that drop have terrible rates so it's not the most recommended method.
I got my naga from farming the lowest level dungeon where they drop before the special dungeon gave me any. BV
afaict the only useful method is hope the rng blesses you
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You might die of old age before a Mermaid drops from those though, so good freaking luck.
:objection!:
(http://i.imgur.com/sqi9AbB.jpg)
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:getdown:
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:objection!:
(http://i.imgur.com/sqi9AbB.jpg)
Daily reminder Chirei is a million years old.
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:objection!:
(http://i.imgur.com/sqi9AbB.jpg)
Welp, that makes me feel pretty silly.
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King Mastering I'm coming for you
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Welp, that makes me feel pretty silly.
Well to be fair, the drop rate really is that bad. I just became a devout monmusu hunter, and for weeks, did nothing but dive into dungeons inhabited by them, taking careful note to camp the ones with 1.5x rate on specific days. I am still missing Succubus out of the five, and only Mermaid and Dryad I have actually acquired from drops. Naga was from SSP and Cupid was from the pal machine(jfc the healer girls must be extremely rare from here, because I've never seen another.).
tl;dr if you're persistent enough and have stamina to blow then you will get them. Eventually...
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Although I -did- drop a Naga from running Fire-Worshipping Snake, as well as a Titan from running Giant Guards and a Lil' Red Dragon from running Arise Vulcan Dragon (which should have similar drop rates), it did take quite a bit of grinding on all three.
So... Yeah, it's never a good idea to farm specifically for them.
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So all of the new monsters in Poring Tower one-shot my entire team. And I can only do one damage to them. Is that normal? I've managed to clear Int once in two tries, and I don't think I have even a remote chance of clearing Expert unless I'm making some kind of critical misplay, since two blobs in the same encounter is an insta-loss. I tried bringing a friend's Naga to whittle them down faster with extra attacks, but they seem to be randomly immune to Naga's ability. Is my team just ultra-terrible, or am I underleveled, or am I doing something wrong?
This is my team:
Lovely Maiden, Princess Valkyrie (Level 28, +7, fully Awoken)
Topaz Carbuncle (Level 21, handful of skillups)
Dragon Fruit (Level 1, filler because my team is right up against the point limit)
Pyro Demon (Level 27)
Devilit (Level 1)
I've been trying to pick a partner with dual attributes to get more attacks to throw out hoping to whittle down the blobs faster, but that only works if there's one of them and only most of the time.
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So all of the new monsters in Poring Tower one-shot my entire team. And I can only do one damage to them. Is that normal? I've managed to clear Int once in two tries, and I don't think I have even a remote chance of clearing Expert unless I'm making some kind of critical misplay, since two blobs in the same encounter is an insta-loss. I tried bringing a friend's Naga to whittle them down faster with extra attacks, but they seem to be randomly immune to Naga's ability. Is my team just ultra-terrible, or am I underleveled, or am I doing something wrong?
This is my team:
Lovely Maiden, Princess Valkyrie (Level 28, +7, fully Awoken)
Topaz Carbuncle (Level 21, handful of skillups)
Dragon Fruit (Level 1, filler because my team is right up against the point limit)
Pyro Demon (Level 27)
Devilit (Level 1)
I've been trying to pick a partner with dual attributes to get more attacks to throw out hoping to whittle down the blobs faster, but that only works if there's one of them and only most of the time.
Do you have any other leaders, I can throw up my valkyrie if you want.
Man, I just found out that the keepers don't drop 100 percent of the time in the stone dragon dungeons. I didn't even get a stone dragon either.
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Do you have any other leaders, I can throw up my valkyrie if you want.
Man, I just found out that the keepers don't drop 100 percent of the time in the stone dragon dungeons. I didn't even get a stone dragon either.
Not really. I have the white Valkyrie, which I haven't even touched yet, and a max-level Sea Serpent. Nothing too inspiring there.
I think what I need is some way to massively increase my team's HP. How do people usually do that? My recovery is pretty good, and I don't think my HP is terrible, but apparently it is because I can't take one hit. Not sure how much it's overshooting my HP, either. For all I know I'm getting kill five times over. Maybe a damage reduction skill with a very low cooldown would work? Needs more experimentation I guess. And both times I've gotten a blue blob egg to drop were times I got killed, too.
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Easiest way to do it, apart from high hp mons, is to get a x2 HP leader as a friend, which is easier take advantage of with monotype/color. Alternatively, get attack up so high that hp isn't an issue.
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=407
Numbers for Poring Int
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Commander: Let me put up my TAMADRApurin (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1163) for you. It has massive HP, will multiply ALL of your attacks but x3.5, but will cut your RCV in half, so be careful.
It's up, so give that a try.
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Lol might as well suggest my TAMADRApurin as well. If there's anything he's good for, it's having the beefiest HP.ever.
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Commander: Let me put up my TAMADRApurin (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1163) for you. It has massive HP, will multiply ALL of your attacks but x3.5, but will cut your RCV in half, so be careful.
It's up, so give that a try.
Couldn't get it to appear as a support option (is there a way to reset which friends are available?) but I did accept every friend request from someone with a bulky character, and I cleared it on Int with no problems. Tomorrow morning I'll try Expert again. Of course, I cleared it and nothing dropped. ::)
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Couldn't get it to appear as a support option (is there a way to reset which friends are available?) but I did accept every friend request from someone with a bulky character, and I cleared it on Int with no problems. Tomorrow morning I'll try Expert again. Of course, I cleared it and nothing dropped. ::)
The rank difference between you and the helper determines how long they're available to use as a helper after they log in.
If people log in frequently it's not an issue even at the minimum 1 hour, but other than that...
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The rank difference between you and the helper determines how long they're available to use as a helper after they log in.
If people log in frequently it's not an issue even at the minimum 1 hour, but other than that...
Oh, okay. I hit zero stamina a long time ago, so I can't make runs very close together right now, so I guess I missed my window. Just cleared it again, no hits again.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bq26ew8CcAAWIHw.jpg)
...!? Noah Descent!? :o
Oh em gee, who knew Noah was so cute! :V
I've learned not to expect good skills to come out of descents but at least she's cute :V
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bq26ew8CcAAWIHw.jpg)
...!? Noah Descent!? :o
Oh em gee, who knew Noah was so cute! :V
I've learned not to expect good skills to come out of descents but at least she's cute :V
./teaspit
What.
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Calling it now another blue healer.
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How about it's a conditional where you have to have two of every monster you bring, haha.
Eiter way I guess she's ok. When it comes to cute though, Astaroth is queen forever. (though plenty of others aren't bad, of course.)
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"No female character" conditional.
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I had no idea you could moe-fy Noah.
But I approve. I want her. 8)
Also currently working on making King Mastering (or just a full team of normal ones for now, hopefully they won't be so stingy with poring tower in the future and make us wait another five fucking months for it). There's just too much fun potential for a team like this to let it go to waste :>
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A fully skilledup team of Mastering must be the most stupid thing ever. Especially with King Mastering as the leader.
You can literally just say "Fuck Orbtrolls" *Orb Shuffle*
I heard that if Orb Shuffle makes a match, it also charges a turn of skills, is that true? Because if it is that's stupid and I love it.
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It's true.
Zydoran (a PaD player who went on a huge hiatus) did a 5 mastering team max skilled and did it on thursday dungeon. Hilarity.
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Pffft, Noah.
Noah's (great?) grandfather was Enoch, who later became Metatron... And now we know why Noah is also female in PAD. :V
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And now we know why Noah is also female in PAD. :V
Oh I knew why before.
Because Japan.
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A fully skilledup team of Mastering must be the most stupid thing ever. Especially with King Mastering as the leader.
You can literally just say "Fuck Orbtrolls" *Orb Shuffle*
I heard that if Orb Shuffle makes a match, it also charges a turn of skills, is that true? Because if it is that's stupid and I love it.
Yes, you are understanding that right: With a team of max-skilled masterings, you can potentially make a turn last forever because after using one you'll be charging another, allowing you to attack infinitely. Not that you wouldn't be able to take a hit either, mind, you'd have over 100,000 HP.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqxt1iQCcAATSE6.jpg:large
JOAN OF ARC TOO GOOD
Also, Baal's ult evo (http://i.imgur.com/v5UBRDK.jpg) looks awesome (and will probably still be useless)
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Just barely squeaked by Poring Tower expert this morning (dropped below 500 health at least half a dozen times, cutting it that close that many times was a lot of fun) then got WRECKED by the boss. I probably couldn't have taken him if I used every continue I had. Guess this dungeon is not for me, which sucks because I would really like to skill-up Valkyrie. Just finished running the lowest level again, and the drop rates seem terrible so it's just a waste of stamina. Well damn.
Got a Succubus out of the Pal Machine this morning. Is she any good for my team?
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Just barely squeaked by Poring Tower expert this morning (dropped below 500 health at least half a dozen times, cutting it that close that many times was a lot of fun) then got WRECKED by the boss. I probably couldn't have taken him if I used every continue I had. Guess this dungeon is not for me, which sucks because I would really like to skill-up Valkyrie. Just finished running the lowest level again, and the drop rates seem terrible so it's just a waste of stamina. Well damn.
Got a Succubus out of the Pal Machine this morning. Is she any good for my team?
I farmed Drops from the GungHo collab and max skilled my Valk then. But who knows when or if that'll be back. And Succubus is a 'good' monster, even better now with the evos and I highly recommend raising her towards your inevitable grind through Hera.
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Plus, with a Valkyrie, she'll fit right in on a Healer Burst Team.
Speaking of Poring Tower, I'm hoarding monster to skillup my future Horus team that-I-don't-have-yet. Currently 3 Drops/Poporings/Marins and 4 Big Baddies, also dropped two +1's so far so that's cool.
No Poring drops yet but I was able to do Master with little to no problems, still Expert seems better if you're just going for the drops considering Master also has devils and costs double the stamina.
So... when are we getting Heroes Descended again? :V
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Got a Succubus out of the Pal Machine this morning. Is she any good for my team?
I swear to god you have the best gacha luck.
Succubus is among the lower tiers of healer girls if not only because she doesn't autoheal like Siren, Alraune, and Angel do, nor can she get you extra turns like Echidna can. However, her ult evos are pretty decent and so are her awakenings. Her twinlit ult is an attacker type that gives 3x atk to attackers, and that's really really good-- but you need twinlits for that. Hold on to her, and use her for her active ability for now: poison ignores defense so it'll kill masks and jewel dragons instantly.
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And you can skill up Succubus from the tower too!
Remember to save the drops for the next 2x skill up event to lessen the grind.
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lewdlith is the best 10/10
imo healer girls ecchi > lewdlith > siren > angel > loldryad
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I swear to god you have the best gacha luck.
Yaaay!
I've played collectible games for years, and my luck seems to be either way on or way off (because confirmation bias, but whatever). My roommate just started playing yesterday morning and he already seems to be tearing it up with the machine pulls. His starting rare was a +1 Archangel Raphael, and his first Pal Machine was a Topaz Pengdra.
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-starting pull Raphael-
All of my jelly.
Well. As a starter Raphael is suffering but on a mono-light team...
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kinda wish there was a x2 drop rate on porings cause 40% still sucks
i'm 3/10 on porings for The King so that's like 18 more runs of Master >_>
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Yeah I don't get shit for drops in poring tower regardless of difficulty. Really wish they'd just leave it as 2x drop by default.
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the lack of x2 skill ups is an additional slap to the face
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the lack of x2 skill ups is an additional slap to the face
Well, at least those will be back eventually!
Edit: Unless you were referring to the pitifully low skillup rate in general, in which case I agree with you.
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I'm likely to run out of box space before we get x2 skill up back though :V
Oh well if that happens I'll probably start by feeding my spare-for-low-cost Gigas and Siren their relevant blobs then the other big slimes if I still run out doing that, since that's sort of a decescending order of ease of skillup.
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http://www.pazudoraya.com/products/detail.php?product_id=879
fuck
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OMG IT'S TAMA POPUP OMG I WANT ONE OMG LJKADSFADFSJLK;ADSJLKFAL;FKJADSLJKASD;LJKASLDJK;F
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Is it like pazudora russian roulette?
Also skill ups in 2 days, Poring Tower grinding won't be total suffering.
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Have you seen the figures/statues they have? I saw some of em when I visited Akihabara, and MAN are they awesome. Take a look at the Duke Vampire Lord's statue sometime, it's pretty amazing. The price, however...
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The worst part is that I'm hoarding skillup fodder for monsters that I don't have, after this I'll have to grind the Castle of Satan until I get a Vampire, then wait for Heroes Descended.
And the Drops are staying in my box until I can do Goddess Descended.
And the worst part is that I'm being particularly lucky, actually - 8 Marins, 6 Poporings/Big Baddies and 4 Drops.
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well hero descended is coming on friday so you dont have to worry there
vamp skillups can be farmed normally though so you dont have to hold on them too hard
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what's your heroes team?
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I was gonna run my normal Monored team to see if I can make it, with an Ares friend, preferrably.
Using my strongest Ares Friend (Not counting Triangles because I can almost never get her on my selectable helpers list ): ) I can get about 30k HP and I should have a combined fire stat of about 33k, not counting sub colors. My Tyrannos's x2 RCV should also keep me alive for a while, as well, so long as I can stall properly for Echidna and Gigas.
If that doesn't work though... Then I guess I'd better start grinding for an actual Heroes team :V
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Oh wow, doing the math now I'm nowhere closing to being able to burst Siegfried down, Highlander should be fine but Siegfried is going to wreck me.
So uh... Any tips?
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Do you have a pad herder where we can check out possible team comps?
Most teams are Luci (or other 4/0/4) or the usual spikes.
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Luci teams basically trivialize Two Heroes, yeah.
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https://www.padherder.com/user/Sacchi/monsters/ (https://www.padherder.com/user/Sacchi/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,,0,0,0,eq,0,0;default,0)
Here it is, pretty much all the relevant stuff.
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If you are sure your mono-red team won't work, your best bet is to throw the strongest monsters of each element + Echidna and use Horus/Horus to sweep through all the floors. Attempt to get as many turns as you can on the masks (killing all but one mask and if your hp is above 10k, letting it hit you once). This will let delay be up for the heroes. You will also have to consistently activate Horus for the Vampires which might be a bit difficult especially since you do not get type advantage like Kirin teams do.
With the Heroes a 16-25x from Horus will probably easily kill Highlander, leaving you up to 5 turns to do 1 million damage to Berserk. Which is pretty difficult if you have low level subs and no orb changers.
However I'm sure that the mono-red team you have heavily invested in will be able to do it. You have 30k HP meaning you can take 2 hits from Berserk if you don't heal and some decent RCU (honestly not uvoing Horus would have been better since that RCU is important). It shouldn't be too difficult to heal 14k every 3 turns, provided that the heal orbs drop. Also triple syncing of Vampires without consistent healing will also destroy your team in a similar fashion.
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Also, Baal's ult evo (http://i.imgur.com/v5UBRDK.jpg) looks awesome (and will probably still be useless)
welp he went from x2 to x3.5 which is not bad actually :V
ALSO THE REM VALKS NOW HAVE ROW AWAKENINGS WELP
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light row enhancers get screwed again :getdown:
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they have the new Athena valk :derp:
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welp he went from x2 to x3.5 which is not bad actually :V
3.5x is great, but he traded 2.5x all for 3.5x devil, and his colors/awakenings just aren't very good for it :<
Antikythera, Hadar, and Zeus Stratios got pretty nice buffs though
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Also whoa dang ame no uzume got a cool useful buff
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I've been losing a lot lately. Like 3/4 of my runs. Not just in event dungeons, but in the normal ones I'm on right now (Tower Of Flare and Fertile Land's later stages have been killing me fairly consistently). I'm rank 38 and my team is Valkyrie, Succubus, and filler. Does anyone have any advice that might help me not die? Not sure exactly what I'm doing wrong, but this is kind of frustrating. Half of these deaths were due to misplays of various severities, some of them just seem to be unavoidable, especially involving bosses.
Also, is King Shynee good for my team? He seems like he might be, but skillupping him seems really hard.
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My best suggestion is to find a consistency in your team. Try to focus on one monster type (preferably healer in your case) and as much of the same color as you can as well. That way your damage output will be much more reliable and steady.
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqxt1iQCcAATSE6.jpg:large
JOAN OF ARC TOO GOOD
Also, Baal's ult evo (http://i.imgur.com/v5UBRDK.jpg) looks awesome (and will probably still be useless)
god damnit all my dorapo standbys are coming to PAD :negative:
Off-color valks just got holy shit amazing.
Ame just got a REALLY HUGE BUFF HOLY SHIT.
And new roman getting some love.
Overall, dang.
3.5x is great, but he traded 2.5x all for 3.5x devil, and his colors/awakenings just aren't very good for it :<
Antikythera, Hadar, and Zeus Stratios got pretty nice buffs though
He, Venus, and Hera Sol are the only three light devils.
That's halfway to a team! And 5 Row enhance already, with an enhance active.
If something like a LIGHT SONIA comes around, He could have a place I think. He's certainly the only Devil with the potential to work as a leader atm tbh, even if his color is the worst.
The team needs orb changer p.bad though, I think.
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My best suggestion is to find a consistency in your team. Try to focus on one monster type (preferably healer in your case) and as much of the same color as you can as well. That way your damage output will be much more reliable and steady.
Yeah, that's not going great so far. I just have a few things to choose from, and my team's point value keeps hitting the ceiling. What's the principle behind a mono-color team? I understand that everything on your team attacks every time you make a match, but what do you do if orbs don't drop? Or if your opponent resists your color?
Also, what other blue healers are accessible and good at my point in the game? Just carbuncles, or did I miss something?
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The principle of monocolor teams is to make your damage more reliable - that way, you only need to expect one type of orbs to troll, not a bunch.
To help with this, monocolor teams tend to make heavy usage of orb changers to manipulate the board, for example, my Monored team uses both Gigas The Great (Turns Heart Cubes into Fire Orbs) and Meteor Volcano Dragon (Turns Dark Orbs into Fire Orbs) to help with that.
In general, if the orbs don't drop, you try to clear as many orbs as possible in a single go, to increase the chances of the orbs you want dropping, if the opponent resists your element, you essentially cry in a corner and try to do as much damage as possible while having to deal with the permanent x0,5 multiplier.
I'm not too familiar with Healer teams myself, the only blue healer I'm aware of would be Siren and blue Valkyrie, however you can already do some good control with these two, as Siren turns red orbs into hearts, and then blue Valkyrie turns these hearts into water. Controlling three out of the six colors on the board (Fire, Hearts and Water) already makes a monocolor team's job much easier, though admittedly, the more colors you control, the better, and if you have a way to turn all colors on the board into a single color and further enhance them, all the better (Though I'm not aware of any Water-Enhancers)
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(Not counting Triangles because I can almost never get her on my selectable helpers list ): )
It's gotta be because of the difference in rank and that I don't log on super-duper often as I see you all the time :ohdear:
If you can give me a time you want to run it I can make sure to have Ares up for that. I actually wound up Astaroth facetanking the dungen, but this was also in the days before awakenings and skill boosts and such so getting orb trolled on stage one with 5 turns before any orb changers + lolrecovery = :(
I've been losing a lot lately. Like 3/4 of my runs. Not just in event dungeons, but in the normal ones I'm on right now (Tower Of Flare and Fertile Land's later stages have been killing me fairly consistently). I'm rank 38 and my team is Valkyrie, Succubus, and filler. Does anyone have any advice that might help me not die? Not sure exactly what I'm doing wrong, but this is kind of frustrating. Half of these deaths were due to misplays of various severities, some of them just seem to be unavoidable, especially involving bosses.
Also, is King Shynee good for my team? He seems like he might be, but skillupping him seems really hard.
At a certain point, your characters just need enough levels to take a hit if you can no longer one-shot everything. Since you're running healers, make sure you're using helpers that are and boost healers such as other Valks, Light Metatrons (I have one up whenever it's not Ares so add me!) Sun Quan, Blue/Blue Isis and Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao - the latter 2 if you're running multicolor which looks to be the case when cobbling together things in the beginning.
King Shynee is a good nuke for healer teams, mine sure as hell isn't skilled up just fully awoken, though I did get the skill up from one of them.
EDIT BECAUSE I AM SLOW TYPER
Yeah, that's not going great so far. I just have a few things to choose from, and my team's point value keeps hitting the ceiling. What's the principle behind a mono-color team? I understand that everything on your team attacks every time you make a match, but what do you do if orbs don't drop? Or if your opponent resists your color?
Also, what other blue healers are accessible and good at my point in the game? Just carbuncles, or did I miss something?
1) You want to clear out as many off-colors as possible each turn so more drop. You'll also want to prioritize orb changers - the mystic knights and heartbreakers, though they are varying degrees of difficulty in acquiring depending on the color. If you're in a dungeon you're weak to... welp that happens. For those you can try another team or just power through it, maybe switching subs to be more defensive if needed.
2) Siren is the only other farmable one IIRC. Light Valk is going to be much a much stronger leader in the long run.
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To help with this, monocolor teams tend to make heavy usage of orb changers to manipulate the board, for example, my Monored team uses both Gigas The Great (Turns Heart Cubes into Fire Orbs) and Meteor Volcano Dragon (Turns Dark Orbs into Fire Orbs) to help with that.
I just tried swapping out one of my random fillers with my Sea Serpent and borrowed a friend's Mermaid and it seemed to work pretty well. Now I just really need to get a Mermaid.
At a certain point, your characters just need enough levels to take a hit if you can no longer one-shot everything. Since you're running healers, make sure you're using helpers that are and boost healers such as other Valks, Light Metatrons (I have one up whenever it's not Ares so add me!) Sun Quan, Blue/Blue Isis and Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao - the latter 2 if you're running multicolor which looks to be the case when cobbling together things in the beginning.
And how do I get those? Keep flailing until they randomly drop from the rare machine?
2) Siren is the only other farmable one IIRC. Light Valk is going to be much a much stronger leader in the long run.
Yeah. I guess so. The blue one is way cooler, and I already crammed a ton of +1s and Tamadras into it, but the white one is probably better. I should start working on a team for her at least to handle green dungeons.
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The stuff I listed are the friend monsters you borrow that you should prioritize, so you don't need to have them yourself - you couldn't field them on the same team even if you wanted due to cost :V Check out the database of players here and go hog wild adding the stuff I mentioned http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/friendfinder.asp though you probably won't get added back by high rank folk unless they're from here or something. Keep Light Valk as your leader before you log off since that will be the most attractive one to other players.
Fortunately, tamadras are no longer the ultra-rarity they used to be so you'll be able to fatten up Light Valk soon enough :3
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Light valk's awakenings are pointless, and Blue Valk's are becoming really good, so it's an acceptable trade off :v
While rolling the ULTIMATE HEALER TEAM will be hard, investing in blue valk ain't bad.
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Yo if anyone has a max'd Kirin I could borrow, may I please do so? I wanna take on Hera-Is.
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You can use mine. I'll put her up.
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Thank you.
...2-stoned due to orbscrews, no drop. Mind putting her up once more? >.<
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Done.
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Thank you again.
But still no drop. 4 stones this time god damn it pad you're killing me.
Once more, please? This will be the last time. (I only have three stones left. <_<; )
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Done. Make sure to save stamina for Super Kings.
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You probably would have been better off trying mythical from the start since they dragons don't really get THAT much more HP and usually OHKO regardless
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only with skills, though. Normal hits, my kirin team can tank for a while. D:
Also my super kings have already passed. Oh well.
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All right. It cost me all of my 11 stones today, but it was worth it.
Hera-Is get. (I also got the drop on every other thing in the dungeon too.)
Now my strategy for tackling Gold Keeper can begin too. Maybe. :ohdear:
Thank you for your help.
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All right. It cost me all of my 11 stones today, but it was worth it.
Hera-Is get. (I also got the drop on every other thing in the dungeon too.)
Now my strategy for tackling Gold Keeper can begin too. Maybe. :ohdear:
Thank you for your help.
Heh, I think Hera-Is took about all of my stones too. I think it was about 5 or 6 on one attempt. I went Joker/Odin.
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It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't so habitually orbscrewed! I'm getting better at using Kirin but there's only so much I can do... Though I am starting to consider a team of:
Kirin/Gigas/Cu Chulainn/Siegfried/Apollo/Kirin
(or replace one with king bubblie if ult Kirins)
And there, no more orbscrews.
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I just level capped my Sakuya, so -yaaaay- I can use another one of your leads Matsy. :D
... not that I'm likely to use anything but TAMADRApurin until I get D/D Haku or a balanced Suzaku team together.
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It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't so habitually orbscrewed! I'm getting better at using Kirin but there's only so much I can do... Though I am starting to consider a team of:
Kirin/Gigas/Cu Chulainn/Siegfried/Apollo/Kirin
(or replace one with king bubblie if ult Kirins)
And there, no more orbscrews.
However RCU is a problem. I still have some RCU problems when using Valk/Apollo/Verche/Siegfried so I replaced Sieg with DXQX and now at the sacrifice of 1k HP I instantly heal to full with a 5 combo.
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That's true. That's why I rather like the mono-light-ish setup I have right now:
Kirin/TAMADRApurin/Odin (who will be even better when his ult comes out)/Siegfried/Apollo/Kirin.
It doesn't seem like much, but the RCV is actually pretty good. Let me tank plenty of hits during Hera-Is dungeon, at least.
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I am loving friends with Healer Girls that have Rondo of Healing.
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I am loving friends with Healer Girls that have Rondo of Healing.
Sent a friend request; in addition to RSonia(who plays well with the Lu Bu I saw in your leader spot), I have an ult'd Alraune with an improved version of Rondo of Healing called Song of Rest, should you need it. Let me know in-game if you need me to switch, and whenever I get the message(I work, etc.) I'll do so!
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I have a 7X ult Archangel if you need (practically the same thing but light/water and a 10 turn active) also, just shoot me a request.
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Sent a friend request; in addition to RSonia(who plays well with the Lu Bu I saw in your leader spot), I have an ult'd Alraune with an improved version of Rondo of Healing called Song of Rest, should you need it. Let me know in-game if you need me to switch, and whenever I get the message(I work, etc.) I'll do so!
I accidentally clicked reject. :V
I'll send you a friend request this time.I have a 7X ult Archangel if you need (practically the same thing but light/water and a 10 turn active) also, just shoot me a request.
Will do.
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I feel like I must be doing something wrong with this monocolor-ish team. Every run ends with me hacking away at the boss, getting pretty close, then not having any blue orbs drop four like four rounds. Valkyrie's active ability can fix that once, but when it happens several turns in a row I just can't do anything. It takes me long enough to kill bosses that getting unlucky doesn't even seem that unlikely. Anybody got advice? What I do?
Edit: FINALLY just beat Flare Knights after at least seven or eight attempts. Been using Da Qiao And Xiao Qiao as my assist to try to get burst damage, and it kept coming down to being able to set up three of the four requires colors to get the damage bonus and having to rely on a fourth color cascading. This time it happened. That was satisfying, but it doesn't seem like a good way to play. :wat:
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Try to save up orbs beforehand, either straight-up blue orbs or any orbs have control over (due to orbchanging), for example, you have a Blue Valkyrie, which means that you'll want to keep as many blue and heart orbs on the board as possible before you need to use them so you can just pop Valkyrie's active to deal Massive Damage.
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Uh, En...your friends list is full. I'll hang onto the request for now, just letting you know I can't accept just yet.
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In cases where you run out of the orbs you want and you don't have an orb changer ready, what you should do is match some hearts and go all out on your board, comboing as much as you can. This will maximize your chances of getting more of the orbs you want while healing yourself so it's not a wasted turn.
I suggest doing endless corridors for a while to practice your combo skills.
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@En
I also happen to have a max-skill, full awakened ult Siren, not sure which one benefits you more when you want a healer up.
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Try to save up orbs beforehand, either straight-up blue orbs or any orbs have control over (due to orbchanging), for example, you have a Blue Valkyrie, which means that you'll want to keep as many blue and heart orbs on the board as possible before you need to use them so you can just pop Valkyrie's active to deal Massive Damage.
Maybe this is the part I'm doing wrong. Unless something goes wrong I go into the boss with a bunch of blue orbs on the board, but am I supposed to use them all right away and try to burst down the boss, or use three a turn and do consistent damage? I've been trying to go for the burst, but it doesn't usually bring the boss/es anywhere near low enough for me to win before I run out of steam or get boned by bad rolls.
In cases where you run out of the orbs you want and you don't have an orb changer ready, what you should do is match some hearts and go all out on your board, comboing as much as you can. This will maximize your chances of getting more of the orbs you want while healing yourself so it's not a wasted turn.
I suggest doing endless corridors for a while to practice your combo skills.
Right, that's always the plan, and sometimes it works. But if I do it enough times it will eventually not work, and I usually have to do it a lot of times over the course of a boss fight at this point. Is my damage output just way, way lower than it's supposed to be at this point in the game or something? Maybe I should work on putting together that King Shynee right away after all.
But yeah, practicing in Endless Corridors is a good idea. Playing this way does seem to be a little tricky and I don't have the technique yet. That probably would help.
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If you're running leader valk, are you running a friend's valk at the same time? That will make your output higher than pretty much anything you are facing right now.
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*throws hands in the air*
GEEZ, Sonia. King Baddie, too.
Just nuked Neptune(OoH) into the floor. It was pretty fun. I got worried when all my wood orbs went away durong the floor before and none dropped during the fight. Hadn't remembered that I'd hit WELL over 192k fire damage so I was unsure...then I saw like 300something thousand per Sonia.
So yeah, Ocean of Heaven all clear, ready for whatever the next one is!
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Welcome to burst meta. Enjoy your stay.
(Try doing that with your DMeta sometime. It's a blast. Literally. (http://i.imgur.com/c31UdIs.png))
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Welcome to burst meta. Enjoy your stay.
(Try doing that with your DMeta sometime. It's a blast. Literally. (http://i.imgur.com/c31UdIs.png))
Hahaha, would that I could play him/her well enough yet. also I don't have king Flamie yet since I have been putting so much into the Sonia team...I WILL eventually work on DMeta though since I'd been fortunate enough to pull her and such, just not yet. I might jumpstart it though if I pull a Hanzo or something eventually.
Edit: *jaw falls through the floor*
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If you're running leader valk, are you running a friend's valk at the same time? That will make your output higher than pretty much anything you are facing right now.
Yeah, one of my buddies with a Valkyrie was just online in the right window for the first time today. It was hilarious. That definitely fixes my damage problems whenever it comes up, but it just compounds the "if I get bad luck I insta-die" problem by being kind of fragile. Still, that's going to be a big thing.
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That's healers for you in general, really. Squishy as hell but if they survive they're incredibly resilient.
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Contrast with physicals like TAMADRApurin who have incredible HP (my Purin has >5000 HP!) but pitiful recovery, usually. They also tend to have middling attack but TAMADRApurin's multiplier is incredible.
-shoot me a friend request seriously-
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-shoot me a friend request seriously-
Do it. It's a sight to behold. A magnificent one.
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So, apparently Noah's gonna be a beefy leader for God teams, assuming she's used that way. (I don't REMEMBER seeing someone post this, but I could be wrong.)
LS is 2.5x HP and 1.5x Atk for Gods
Active is 200x Attack water elemennt damage, pretty sure applying defense like most of those nukes do, HP-to-1.
I believe she's God/Physical, with ~6000 HP, 915(So her nuke is worth about 180-190k damage) Atk, and zero RCV at max level.
Her restriction for her dungeon appears to be the same as the samurai dragons(Must have all five attributes represennted in your team).
All of this info is from links found in the Upcoming Monsters/Mechanics topic on the PAD forum and discussion thereof, though I might have missed something or misread, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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So, apparently Noah's gonna be a beefy leader for God teams, assuming she's used that way. (I don't REMEMBER seeing someone post this, but I could be wrong.)
LS is 2.5x HP and 1.5x Atk for Gods
Active is 200x Attack water elemennt damage, pretty sure applying defense like most of those nukes do, HP-to-1.
I believe she's God/Physical, with ~6000 HP, 915(So her nuke is worth about 180-190k damage) Atk, and zero RCV at max level.
Her restriction for her dungeon appears to be the same as the samurai dragons(Must have all five attributes represennted in your team).
All of this info is from links found in the Upcoming Monsters/Mechanics topic on the PAD forum and discussion thereof, though I might have missed something or misread, so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah that's about right, PDX has that too.
My first response is she's aggressively mediocre besides a really huge HP stat. But I think the leaderskill could make her really good.
God is an EXTREMELY BROAD requirement, containing most of the best monsters. It can fix her RCV issues (Low RCV leaderskill, no rcv base) and give her a lot of powerful skills to make up for her agressively mediocre active (it's worse than most others of this type by far, even scaling off atk).
She could be a lucifer with more HP and better sub pool. I'm still wary because I think she'll really lack in how stacked this metagame is against stall. And having a bad rcv boost will absolutely kill her. Gabriel or Raphael paired with her will help, but I'm wary.
Amusingly, if Blucifer had a better leaderskill in having his pool expanded to include water types (Instead of the aggressively mediocre attack boost), She'd be outright terrifying tbh.
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Okay wow, the game runs down the battery even if it's charging! Impressive work! Guess I wont be playing. v: Wrong thread, move along.
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Okay wow, the game runs down the battery even if it's charging! Impressive work! Guess I wont be playing. v:
Close the app when not in use? Like go in and force quit I mean,
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Close the app when not in use? Like go in and force quit I mean,
Woopsy! Meant to post in the Dragon Poker thread, I blame sleep deprivation.
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11 Green drops fed to Highlander... 0 skill ups.
11 Blue drops fed to my Siegfried. 4 skill ups.
I wanted a balanced team Gungho, please.
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Yeah the skill up rate is kind of bullshit what the hell
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32 Phantom Chasers to get my Haku skill maxed though was totes worth two weeks of stamina devoted to it.
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Well, I did Heroes Descended, didn't manage to stall on either the masks nor the devils because of skyfalls, had to burn my ecchi on the Vampires and just BARELY got enough healing off to survive one of Berserk's hits, and only because of Horus's defense awakening.
I still had to one-stone it, but hell, one-stonning my first descended on my first try is fine by me! Dropped the Highlander (That I essentially just bursted down immediately because LOLWOODELEMENT) and completely forgot that x2 skill up chance wasn't up yet, so I used 5 poporings on him, fortunately got 3 skillups out of that.
Berserk proved to be an absolute bitch to take down though, I'll wait until either my second-strongest Ares friend (or triangles) comes up in the list again so I can try to drop berserk.
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I still had to one-stone it, but hell, one-stonning my first descended on my first try is fine by me! Dropped the Highlander (That I essentially just bursted down immediately because LOLWOODELEMENT) and completely forgot that x2 skill up chance wasn't up yet, so I used 5 poporings on him, fortunately got 3 skillups out of that.
Yeah getting 3 skillups on a x2 chance is luck as it is, let alone doing it without :p
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It's a 10% base chance, right? Which means there's only a 0,1% of you getting 3 skillups without x2 skillup chance.
Talk about lucky :V
@Edit
Huh, looks like x2 chance is already up, my mistake.
Still, fed my remaining 3 poporings - 8 Poporings and 4 skill ups so far.
Out of 6 necessary, that's awesome. Though I wonder how many I'll get through my Berserk because I have 10 Marins on my box.
@Edit?
TRY NUMBER TWO! *Dies on floor one because all five demons are 1-turn synced and I only have 2 red orbs, even after clearing 7 hearts after the first volley.*
*tableflip.jpg*
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Do it. It's a sight to behold. A magnificent one.
I did it.
I should probably post my code too. It's 312728337. In theory I put up my white Valkyrie when I'm not playing, but in practice I shut down in the middle of dungeons a lot so you'll probably mostly be seeing blue Valkyrie.
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My Ares is up! I'll keep him up today as much as I can.
It's the first week in forever that I'm skipping DevilTwinlits and just working towards skilling up Lilith :o
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My Ares is up! I'll keep him up today as much as I can.
It's the first week in forever that I'm skipping DevilTwinlits and just working towards skilling up Lilith :o
I won't have the stamina to run Heroes Descended again for another 2 hours and 20 minutes, I'll send you a message once I've got enough if you aren't on the list so that maybe perhaps you can help me zero-stone it :V
(And even if not I do have 9 stones counting the one they gave today so I think I'm good)
Also, next godfest announced: Japanese 1 and Egyptian gods.
Not rolling this time - already have Horus and nothing in the Japanese series interests me. The only gain I could possibly get out of it would be Isis but no way I'm investing on her as much as I invested on Horus.
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@Jq and Chirei
Done~
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The only gain I could possibly get out of it would be Isis
must be nice to have 5 Yomis already.
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aw yiss finally
(http://i.imgur.com/dmd2znI.png)
all hail the king BV
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must be nice to have 5 Yomis already.
Unless Change The World is extremely important for my Horus team, I don't really see a use for her, at least, not for me.
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I cannot beat twinlits anymore to save my life. I consistently get yellow skyfalls on floor 1 and then no yellow on floor 2+. The single Valk on my team can't orbchange fast enough.
So frustrating. Maybe I'll switch to my Ronia team.
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Unless Change The World is extremely important for my Horus team, I don't really see a use for her, at least, not for me.
uhhh Horus is like one of the few teams Change the World is useful for :V
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Meh, then I guess I'll roll once, though the chances of me getting Yomi are very low, I do still need to get Berserk and I'm gonna need a few stones for that :derp:
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Orochi, Susano and Yomi are all classic Horus subs.
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If you don't want it, just wait till eco rolls around.
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If you don't want it, just wait till eco rolls around.
Which is when Poring Tower ends, pretty sure.
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Amusingly enough, I already have enough team cost to do Horus/Uvo'd Cu Chu/Siegfried/Alma/Echidna.
Though I'll need to start thinking on a replacement, just in case I don't get siegfried.
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Amusingly enough, I already have enough team cost to do Horus/Uvo'd Cu Chu/Siegfried/Alma/Echidna.
Though I'll need to start thinking on a replacement, just in case I don't get siegfried.
How about Hera-Is >:)
Well, you can go with a heartmaker like Siren, or a Midguard.
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Run number 3, this time with Triangles's Ares.
Completely steamrolled the dungeon - tried popping Ares on the Vampires to try and kill the two synced ones immediately, I made a 3 combo. I got 7 skyfalls. I killed all three right then and there.
Which meant I went into the boss fight without either Ares or Echidna because I also popped her for security purposes.
Managed to immediately burst down Highlander with Gigas + Meteor Volcano Dragon + Horus and managed to heal enough to tank 3 hits off of Berserk instead of just 2, just before his fourth hit (which would've killed me) Horus and Meteor Volcano Dragon came back up and combining them with Ares and Grand Tyrannos ensured that I took away the remaining 60% of Berserk's health in one volley. Still, it was a Highlander drop.
My last run will be at 10PM, which means that if I don't get Berserk, I'll either have to wait for the next time Heroes Descended come up or use stones for stamina refilling.
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Here, take your stones, GungHo. I don't care HOW stupid it was, I wanted to say I beat Two Heroes, and that's what I did. My RSonia team is actually quite a bit worse than I thought it was, it turns out, though it didn't help that I neglected to bring my Taur Demon with me. That mistake alone cost me a couple stones as Berserk smashed my face in.
At least for, net, the cost of just one pull on the REM, I got Berserk so I never have to play Two Heroes again.
This was a trainwreck, but I was determined to do what I set out for. Getting Highlander would probably have caused me to quit right there before blowing all thoae rocks on the blue dude, but oh well. I'll still be able to scrape a second REM pull by the time we get the next Fest I believe, which is all I planned to use anyway.
Stats:
0 stones on fl. 1
1 stone on fl. 2(almost two, but the freaking Strawberry Dragon's awakenings, which are why it's on the team at all, saved me by like 400 HP)
2 stones on fl. 3
1 stone on fl. 4(didn't look up how powerful the Knights were...)
2 stones on fl. 5
-1 stone for first clear.
Stupid stubbornness. At least I talked myself out of trying Hera-Ur yesterday, much as I'd like her.
EDIT: OH WAIT Hera's coming up. Screw the REM, I have a goddess to snag.
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Good, got my Siegfried, started this foolishness with 8 stones, ended with 7, so that's a win! Never have to do Heroes Descended again.
Still, only 3 skillups on siegfried and 4 on Highlander, so this is gonna be a bit tough :derp:
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1 more skill up tp max my valk
2 more for lilith
shit son the dream is getting real
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I lucked out on the Gungho collaboration and got my Valkyrie maxed in like 12 attempts.
It was legendary.
The amount of effort put into maxing Haku made up for it, though...
What do I do with these spare drops then? :V
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[01:05:40] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> ahahahahaha
[01:05:43] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> 6 drops into valk
[01:05:46] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> not a single skillup
[01:05:56] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> I swear if I don't at least get close to max
[01:06:01] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> fuck you gungho
[01:07:18] <Chaore> i've not gotten highlander to past sl3 over all my poring towers
[01:07:25] <Chaore> poring tower is actually the worst >:
[01:07:26] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> 4 marin into sieg
[01:07:28] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> nothing
[01:07:33] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> 3 ghostring into lilith
[01:07:35] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> nothing
[01:08:10] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> 5 poporing into highlander
[01:08:12] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> 2 skill up
[01:08:21] <Hanna-Justina-Matseille> THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I DIDN'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT
[01:08:25] Hanna-Justina-Matseille tableflip
I hate this game more and more with each passing day.
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(http://i.imgur.com/CussV7Pl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/CussV7P.jpg)
Wasn't there talk of a universal skillup mon that was being considered a few months ago? Could really use that now. :<
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If there was a universal skillup mob, what would you even skillup?
Like, I can't go TAMADRApurin because his active already coincides perfectly with Regulus's cap as is...
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So ready to put my fist through my phone. I've run Poring Tower something like 15 times today, and have gotten three blue blobs and one black blob. No skillups. Every time I'm like "This time for sure! Karma owes me!" and nothing happens and I almost tear the phone in half. Statistically I know that isn't even that unlikely, but if I can't do this with double drops AND double skillup, I can't do it period.
Edit: AGAIN! Yet another, and still nothing. This is terrible. Why am I even doing this?
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Yeah, welcome to PaD, theoretically speaking it's supposed to be a 20% skillup chance on x2, in practice, it's more like 0,1%.
You'll... get used to it... :colonveeplusalpha:
(Though I'm one to talk, considering I managed to go from Level 1 to Max skill on my Echidna without having to wait for Scarlet Snake Princess to come up a second time, managed to full skill up both my Rowdy Samurai and Gigas with relatively no problems and just finished skilling up Highlander :V)
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... max skill Echidna
and Highlander
Sacchi. Please.
I can only get so jealous.
By the way commandercool does TAMADRApurin's beeftank HP help at all or would you prefer if I put up another Valk?
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... max skill Echidna
and Highlander
Sacchi. Please.
I can only get so jealous.
By the way commandercool does TAMADRApurin's beeftank HP help at all or would you prefer if I put up another Valk?
You know, I don't really know. It's never been up when I made the terrible call of trying to run Expert, but double Valkyries can't burst down the boss fast enough. I kind of suspect it wouldn't help since my damage output would be significantly lower countering out the ability to take hits, but I'm mad enough that I'm not going to waste my time trying again. Put up whatever you like. If you put up a Valkyrie I would probably use it, but I'm not sure which would actually be better.
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If you want I can put up my Sandalphon which is 1.5x HP and 2.5x healer attack so it's a little bit of both?
I just added you so accept!
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If you want I can put up my Sandalphon which is 1.5x HP and 2.5x healer attack so it's a little bit of both?
I just added you so accept!
Okay, did do. I'll give that a try at some point and probably still get wrecked somehow, but it sounds promising.
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Never underestimate TAMADRApurin's spike damage!
It's over the top. Sometimes. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tn3_zmwvbY#t=4m15s)
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I need to get a Mermaid from either Neptune Glacier or Sea Cave Mercury. After beating Castle of Satan. It's becoming nearly impossible for me to clear the following dungeons right after without having a helper friend that's a Healer Girl with Rondo of Healing.
Atleast I was able to unlock Technical Dungeons. I finally have access to Pengdras.
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2 stoned for L/B Izanami. Hooray for 40% drop rates forcing me to stone for stamina.
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Max skilled Lilith and Valk. FINALLY
THE DREAM IS REAL
now to max skill ecchi and shynee. gungho please one more naga dungeon
EDIT: Does iOS have something akin to a .apk for PaD? My friend can't install it because it's region locked and shit.
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I have been farming for a Mermaid for quite some time now. And I still can't catch one.
And now I've read that 1% is the drop rate at it's best from Normal Dungeons. Damn I really wish they would put rates on the wikia.
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Okay, did do. I'll give that a try at some point and probably still get wrecked somehow, but it sounds promising.
If you know when you want to try (in EST) let me know because of rank difference I'll only appear for an hour.
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I have been farming for a Mermaid for quite some time now. And I still can't catch one.
And now I've read that 1% is the drop rate at it's best from Normal Dungeons. Damn I really wish they would put rates on the wikia.
Don't use wikia. Use PDX (http://puzzledragonx.com/) instead.
Furthermore your rates of getting any of the healer girls from normal dungeons is slim to none. Just ask Chirei.
Really you're better off getting them as consolation prizes from the REM or from special dungeons that include them (at higher rates).
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i think your chances of getting one from the PEM are greater than actually getting on from normal dungeons.
I got my second mermaid on the PEM, actually.
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so uh about noah's active and leader skills... (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1461)
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Ahhh, can't wait til I'm out of work today! Been waiting for Hera for a long time after the last time. To be sure, will this team work, given that I know i have the HP for Hades?
-(L)Drawn Joker
-World Tree Sprite Alraune(Max awoken)
-Witch of the Night, Lilith(1 awakening)
-Empress of Serpents, Echidna
-Keeper of Rainbow
-(Friend) Awoken Odin(max awoken)
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for as long as it hits more than 8k health i think it's okay
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for as long as it hits more than 8k health i think it's okay
Even without a friend I have like 8600 I think, so yay!
How painful will 1-4 be?
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so uh about noah's active and leader skills... (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1461)
no seriously it's like stall ain't dead yet just LOOK AT THAT HP AND THOSE MULTIPLIERS
and while her active skill isn't as good as luci's (though it's a hell of a lot easier to skill up, relatively), you can still get each blast going for ~200k if you max her out and get some +eggs going on in there and get some good gods on your team and you're doin' p well
i mean with just two max level Noah alone (not even figuring other gods) will get you 30000 HP
How painful will 1-4 be?
May the gods have mercy upon your soul.
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If there was a universal skillup mob, what would you even skillup?
That DIzanami I got, for starters, since with two max-skilled ones I can artificially give my Lucifer team more HP. :V
Knowing me I'd probably work on REM mons first, though.
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no seriously it's like stall ain't dead yet just LOOK AT THAT HP AND THOSE MULTIPLIERS
and while her active skill isn't as good as luci's (though it's a hell of a lot easier to skill up, relatively), you can still get each blast going for ~200k if you max her out and get some +eggs going on in there and get some good gods on your team and you're doin' p well
i mean with just two max level Noah alone (not even figuring other gods) will get you 30000 HP
May the gods have mercy upon your soul.
Eh..that's a small RCV multiplier and she has no RCV of her own. Of course maybe you could team up with a Gabriel. That might work.
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Guess I'll take my bets on the PEM for a Siren.
Anyways, I hope I get an Isis atleast on this coming Godfest. Been saving up some stones.
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I've always said the best place to farm for a healer girl is during Godfest :V
Ahhh, can't wait til I'm out of work today! Been waiting for Hera for a long time after the last time. To be sure, will this team work, given that I know i have the HP for Hades?
-(L)Drawn Joker
-World Tree Sprite Alraune(Max awoken)
-Witch of the Night, Lilith(1 awakening)
-Empress of Serpents, Echidna
-Keeper of Rainbow
-(Friend) Awoken Odin(max awoken)
Is your DJ skilled up any? It's probably less important since you'll have enough auto-heal awakenings for the every-turn bosses, but stages 1-4 are going to be super painful. I'm actually thinking maybe you can switch out Echidna for someone with more punching power so you have a smoother time through the early stages? The Devils have 2.2k armor and without an attack multiplier that ain't so easy to pierce for a resist team :ohdear:
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... man, Hera really is a whole lot easier than it used to be <_<
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(http://i.imgur.com/955bhqp.jpg)
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Hm...I could probably swap in Sonia since I think she has the highest Atk of all my monsters.
Also I remembered my HP wrong, it was more like 6800, though the addition of Sonia will skyrocket that as well, haha.
I can definitely say awakenings make Hera sooo much easier. I feel bad for those who did it before them...
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(http://i.imgur.com/955bhqp.jpg)
pfffft :V
iirc can't you just double odin and sleep through the entire dungeon now
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First try at Hera. 0 stones. DOUBLE LEI MASTERRACE
Gonna try for two more.
(http://i.imgur.com/wRGrjty.png)
Guess I'll take my bets on the PEM for a Siren.
Anyways, I hope I get an Isis atleast on this coming Godfest. Been saving up some stones.
Don't count on the Pal Machine to give you one either - I've only ever gotten Cupid from that blasted thing, and this is out of the... 600? Times I've ever pulled it. REM is honestly your best shot but :5stones:
Edit2: goddamn edible is fast
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First try at Hera. 0 stones.
DOUBLE LEI MASTERRACE
http://i.imgur.com/wRGrjty.png
:toot: :toot: :toot:
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Any chance I can get someone to put up an Awoken Odin? Finally out of work and ready for Hera's minions to pound my face in.
EDIT: Oh for the love of (insert favorite god here), I'm TWO cost shy of being able to add Sonia in place of Echdina. Two points.
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I just had MJP put his up, lvl 40 but fully awoken.
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That's the second time I've used a stone at Hera, only to die again and realize I really have no way of beating her at that point with my DMeta team.
Two stones wasted today. I'm done with poring tower, too. All that effort and not a single valk skillup.
I quit. I fucking quit. If I don't manage to scrape out a gold keeper during the pal egg fest with the 20+ pulls I have lined up I'm going to be taking a long break from this fucking game.
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Welp, tossed five stones so far at Hera's. Demons really are evio, but the devils are way worse since they swarm and murder...
EDIT: Oh. At Hades. Almost there...Time to fling light spears at him every seventeen turns! Hera's gonna be the same, just over four times as long. Oh well, it'd worth it! I'd probably get a Dryad or something from the REM anyway, so this is a much better use. I feel the pain that Luci players face now, though. It takes foreveeer...
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That's the second time I've used a stone at Hera, only to die again and realize I really have no way of beating her at that point with my DMeta team.
Two stones wasted today. I'm done with poring tower, too. All that effort and not a single valk skillup.
I quit. I fucking quit. If I don't manage to scrape out a gold keeper during the pal egg fest with the 20+ pulls I have lined up I'm going to be taking a long break from this fucking game.
one of my friends (who's rank 230ish) told me to feed the skill-up fodder 2 at a time. He says that it works better like this. IDK if it's actually true or it just feels that way for him.
but yeah i don't know this game loves to make you work for 30+ skill up fodder and none actually skilling up for it. took like 50+ drops to actually max skill my valk and it was painful cause i was 1 short and had to farm 15+ more drops to eventually max skill her and poring tower doesn't wanna give me drops.
which also leads me to another question: are skill-up rates constant or does it depend on what skill they have? Like, does guard stance - water have more chances to skillup than attack stance - light?
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one of my friends (who's rank 230ish) told me to feed the skill-up fodder 2 at a time. He says that it works better like this. IDK if it's actually true or it just feels that way for him.
but yeah i don't know this game loves to make you work for 30+ skill up fodder and none actually skilling up for it. took like 50+ drops to actually max skill my valk and it was painful cause i was 1 short and had to farm 15+ more drops to eventually max skill her and poring tower doesn't wanna give me drops.
which also leads me to another question: are skill-up rates constant or does it depend on what skill they have? Like, does guard stance - water have more chances to skillup than attack stance - light?
I think they're just constant and rng sucks. My second set of heartbreakers took a lot longer to do than the first set. You just notice it more with stuff like attack stance light than things like defense stance water because you get goblins all the time and not drops. I think it would be a good idea to treat the skill system like the fusion system. Give a guarenteed baseline for stuff and have occasional bonuses.
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Bam got hera with one stone.
Heavenly Herald archangel
Max skilled hellray harpie demon
Rebel Lucifer
Keeper of gold
Lilith
Friend green Odin
The stone was because I forgot Hades damage was so damn high
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It is done.
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23 stamina regenerated, so... just under four hours?
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23 stamina regenerated, so... just under four hours?
A lot of that was due to also having dinner and going back and forth between that and watching the 300 sequel, but yeah. At least it's over with. I'll wait til I can spike the place into dust before playing it again; it was hideously dull with how long it took.
Had I been focusing only on it, it would probably have been about two or two-and-a-half though total.
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The skill up rate for porings I got from stoning from stamina seems to be much less than those I didn't stone for. By which I mean 0% as opposed to 10%
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A new day, so I have new questions.
-What is Eco Collab, and do I care? It seems like I don't, just wanted to make sure.
-Did anyone else not get their log-in bonus today? My game said I did, but I certainly didn't get the Pal Points since I had zero machine pulls before and zero after, but was supposed to get 200 points.
-At what point can I expect to plausibly be able to mega evolve ultimate evo Valkyrie? It seems pretty clear that Mystic Masks, Keepers Of The Rainbow, and Dublits will be hard to get, but how hard?
-I really want a Mermaid/Siren and a Hatsume No Tsunobe. It seems to me like the best way to get them would be to wait for a water gala and use all of my stones then, but people keep saying galas are useless. If that is the case, then what's my best bet for getting these two?
Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing: Is it worth spending all of my stones today fishing for Isis from the godfest? She's the only thing I even kind of want, and she still doesn't seem that great for my team right now.
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ECO collab has monsters that skill up the following: Drall, Loki, Parvati, Lakshmi and more importantly CHANGE THE WORLD.
I didn't notice the PAL points, actually. I have 20 rolls so that's probably the reason why.
Right now I think you can actually do those dungeons. Wednesday and Friday dungeons can easily be done with a zombie team (a team where you run a perseverance leader and an autohealer friend and you never die unless you make a mistake). Tuesday dungeon can be done with Green odin and a heartmaker like big bubblie or a marine goblin.
Don't ever roll in galas. Waste of stones and 90% of the time you're going to get really useless shit. Save those for the godfest instead.
If you really want a Mermaid either you get one from the PEM or wait for a special dungeon that drops her. I got mine from Aldebaran's dungeon way back when.
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Loki
pfft yeah right that thing never shows up ;_;
Also, hera-sowilo get. Probably my favorite Hera design. Her dungeon's not too bad so I might try skilling her up eventually.
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hera-swinelord :v
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i don't have loki anyway so why bother
i'm only doing ECO for the CHANGE THE WOOOORRRRLLLDDD
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TBH, if you want to skill up loki, there's a much much easier (http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1175) alternative than running eco collab and praying for an invade.
That said, Alma is really cute.
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I did eventually get my pal points for the login bonus, just super late. And I got another King Sapphire Dragon with them, which was good because, you know, Valkyrie hungers.
So walk me through how to get my evo materials. I need Keeper Of The Rainbow, Mystic Mask, Dub-Sapphilit, and Dub-Topalit.
I know my best shot at Keeper Of The Rainbow is Tuesday dungeon. Will a zombie team work with that? Seems like it should, since if I recall the Keepers can only make one attack at a time.
Mystic Mask is the Wednesday dungeon, and I know the zombie strategy works for that.
The Dub-Lits are Friday dungeon, and I might be able to just brute force through that, especially with HP Dog around in case I fuck up.
So how low are the drop rates for all of these? How many times should I expect to have to run each dungeon to get them? A lot, I assume?
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So walk me through how to get my evo materials. I need Keeper Of The Rainbow, Mystic Mask, Dub-Sapphilit, and Dub-Topalit.
I know my best shot at Keeper Of The Rainbow is Tuesday dungeon. Will a zombie team work with that? Seems like it should, since if I recall the Keepers can only make one attack at a time.
Mystic Mask is the Wednesday dungeon, and I know the zombie strategy works for that.
The Dub-Lits are Friday dungeon, and I might be able to just brute force through that, especially with HP Dog around in case I fuck up.
So how low are the drop rates for all of these? How many times should I expect to have to run each dungeon to get them? A lot, I assume?
KoR is 40% drop normally, so 80% right now. Mystic Masks and Dub-mythlits aren't quite as likely since there are always two other monsters that spawn with them in the final wave, unless you're lucky enough to get an invade.
As for the zombie strategy for KoR, keep in mind that the first three waves will be made of monsters with two-turn attack timers, and there *will* be multiple. As long as you can focus on synced stuff, though, you should be okay. Also, unless you have some strong active skills to use, expect the keeper itself to take a while to bring down, since it has 900k HP.
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It's not about the keepers actually. It's about the waves before them. You can't reliably do zombie with rainbow keeper because there's so many mons to fight that have synced attacks so yeah.
Since they're double rates right now RK has a chance to drop. Since Mystic mask and Dub-mythlit spawn with two other mons you need to pray to the rng gods that gungho gives it to you. Otherwise it's just grinding until you get them.
EDIT: basically what rdj said.
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Zombie teams are the way to go for Wednesday/Friday dungeons, as far as Tuesday Dungeon goes (Which, by the way, is literally the only source of the Keeper of the Rainbow until you're like rank 200 to do Paradise of Holy Beasts and even then it's infinitely more reliable) the "cheese" setup is to just use a fully awoken GOdin friend and maybe an autohealer (though it's not necessary if you have a lot of RCV, which given you're running a healer team, you should), in that case, you'll be fine so long as you keep yourself at full health and have over 4400HP (which isn't hard to get).
Final Poring Tower Results: Max Skilled Highlander, Skill Level 5 Berserk, 9 Ghostrings, 21 Big Baddies and 13 Drops.
Not gonna run ECO until after the godfest just in case I end up getting a Yomi, until then I'm running Castle of Satan to try and drop a vampire.
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Zombie teams are the way to go for Wednesday/Friday dungeons, as far as Tuesday Dungeon goes (Which, by the way, is literally the only source of the Keeper of the Rainbow until you're like rank 200 to do Paradise of Holy Beasts and even then it's infinitely more reliable) the "cheese" setup is to just use a fully awoken GOdin friend and maybe an autohealer (though it's not necessary if you have a lot of RCV, which given you're running a healer team, you should), in that case, you'll be fine so long as you keep yourself at full health and have over 4400HP (which isn't hard to get).
Final Poring Tower Results: Max Skilled Highlander, Skill Level 5 Berserk, 9 Ghostrings, 21 Big Baddies and 13 Drops.
Not gonna run ECO until after the godfest just in case I end up getting a Yomi, until then I'm running Castle of Satan to try and drop a vampire.
Zombie teams are the way people used to do it, but if you can manage a 4/0/4 tank team or even a 2/4/2 team? That's way safer and a lot faster, as you don't have to worry about storing orbs and skyfalls taking them away.
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Friendly reminder for anyone thinking about skilling up Venus or Yomi: Run nothing but Heaven Sent. It's the only guaranteed drop for ECO Tiny, and it's pretty easy for a "legendary"-rank dungeon.
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KoR is 40% drop normally, so 80% right now. Mystic Masks and Dub-mythlits aren't quite as likely since there are always two other monsters that spawn with them in the final wave, unless you're lucky enough to get an invade.
As for the zombie strategy for KoR, keep in mind that the first three waves will be made of monsters with two-turn attack timers, and there *will* be multiple. As long as you can focus on synced stuff, though, you should be okay. Also, unless you have some strong active skills to use, expect the keeper itself to take a while to bring down, since it has 900k HP.
I don't need any dub-mythlits right now, just the blue and white ones.
I don't know why I thought the zombie strategy would work for Tuesday, since everything has actual amounts of HP. :wat:
Zombie teams are the way to go for Wednesday/Friday dungeons, as far as Tuesday Dungeon goes (Which, by the way, is literally the only source of the Keeper of the Rainbow until you're like rank 200 to do Paradise of Holy Beasts and even then it's infinitely more reliable) the "cheese" setup is to just use a fully awoken GOdin friend and maybe an autohealer (though it's not necessary if you have a lot of RCV, which given you're running a healer team, you should), in that case, you'll be fine so long as you keep yourself at full health and have over 4400HP (which isn't hard to get).
Okay, cool. Does anyone have a set up Odin I can use tomorrow until I get Rainbows?
Zombie teams are the way people used to do it, but if you can manage a 4/0/4 tank team or even a 2/4/2 team? That's way safer and a lot faster, as you don't have to worry about storing orbs and skyfalls taking them away.
I have no idea what those are, but if they involve anything you can't find laying around in dungeons then I almost certainly can't make them.
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I don't need any dub-mythlits right now, just the blue and white ones.
I have no idea what those are, but if they involve anything you can't find laying around in dungeons then I almost certainly can't make them.
Alright, basically 4/0/4 teams are teams with 4x health and 4x RCV, lead by people with 2x health and 2x RCV. Things like your archangels, noel dragons, and fruit dragons have these.
2/4/2 teams are teams with 2x health, 4x attack, and 2x RCV, these teams are most commonly lead by Greek 2.0 gods(2x HP, 2x ATK,) and Norse Gods/Starter Dragons(2x ATK, RCV.) I just brought those up because the last influx of noel dragons was pretty recent, so there might have been a chance for you to get one.
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I have a max level Godin that you can use, just shoot a message in-game about when you want it because the window that you can use him is still one hour.
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Alright, basically 4/0/4 teams are teams with 4x health and 4x RCV, lead by people with 2x health and 2x RCV. Things like your archangels, noel dragons, and fruit dragons have these.
2/4/2 teams are teams with 2x health, 4x attack, and 2x RCV, these teams are most commonly lead by Greek 2.0 gods(2x HP, 2x ATK,) and Norse Gods/Starter Dragons(2x ATK, RCV.) I just brought those up because the last influx of noel dragons was pretty recent, so there might have been a chance for you to get one.
Okay, sounds good. I did have several of those, but something ate them a while ago. Didn't figure they would come up.
I have a max level Godin that you can use, just shoot a message in-game about when you want it because the window that you can use him is still one hour.
Will do, thanks.
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Evo Materials Rush is up for me right now, but I'd need a stone for the stamina. What are the odds I can take it?
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Evo Materials Rush is up for me right now, but I'd need a stone for the stamina. What are the odds I can take it?
I wouldn't stone for it. If you can handle the weekday dungeons, odds favor you being able take though.
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Probably not so good unless you have a 4x HP 4x RCV team and can tank it out as you have to deal with all the tricks of the other evo mat dungeons mentioned above in one.
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I tried once (without a stone) and got wrecked by a bunch of synced masks in the second room. Should have taken time to charge up poison. Won't waste the stone to try again if it isn't worth it then.
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Definitely don't waste the stone, you'll probably be able to do it next time it comes back :)
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Definitely don't waste the stone, you'll probably be able to do it next time it comes back :)
Yeah, you're not even guaranteed what you want.
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The RK at the end is guaranteed, right? Or at least to the same level of the Tuesday dungeon I think.
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The RK at the end is guaranteed, right? Or at least to the same level of the Tuesday dungeon I think.
It's definitely not 100%, I think it's 40. So it's probably weekly rates without the 2x drop ever.
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Well at least for 35 stamina you get a shot of getting all of the mats.
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The RK at the end of the Evo mat rush is 50% drop - higher than Tuesday Dungeon but without ever getting the x2 rates.
And considering how often these come around, tuesday dungeon is still better. Evo rush is only ever useful at trying to get a shot at an evo mat you'd have to wait a few days to get, really (Like if it's friday and you really need that RK), I don't think it's ever worth stoning for.
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So I was farming Castle of Satan for a vampire because why not.
A vampire finally appears, and to my delight when I kill it I actually get a drop...only it's a treasure chest.
:flamingv: <-- Accurate depiction of my dreams.
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(http://i.imgur.com/ICzRxRsl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ICzRxRs.jpg)
I am going to keep these stone dragons relevant dang it
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(http://i.imgur.com/ICzRxRsl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ICzRxRs.jpg)
I am going to keep these stone dragons relevant dang it
I think they're pretty relevant for their two skill boosts alone. Especially stuff like the B/G which doesn't have a whole lot to compete with it. I think the W/B isn't bad either. It's like I want the skill boosts that bubblie has, but I don't need his burst.
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I just wish the heroes skillups weren't so completely retardedly low.
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Yeah I was excited to try to skill up Pandora but the odds of finding the invade are pretty much 0 and I'm sure the skill up rate is worse
as usual, fuck you, gungho
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I just wish the heroes skillups weren't so completely retardedly low.
Yeah, if I'm going to farm skill-ups, I'm going to wait till Noah shows up. That and Pal Egg. Of course, I think I can live with Perseus at his normal cooldown. I'm fine with Kirin's.
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Also, hera-sowilo get. Probably my favorite Hera design. Her dungeon's not too bad so I might try skilling her up eventually.
I just cleared it myself with a healer team. I don't have the HP yet to take a oh-shit hit on Mythical but I got the drop so :colbert: I enjoyed the dungeon as nothing was unreasonable and damn did it have a cool background design.
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Decided to take two draws on the Godfest even though there isn't really anything I want. Got horrendous megatrash. Well, that was a waste of time. Saving the rest of my stones for... something?
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Did one pull. A gold egg, but it wasn't a god.
(http://i.imgur.com/PYJW1Ye.jpg)
Out of anything in there, it somehow gave me Lilith, already fully evolved, and I had been dumping bar after bar of stamina in Clayus Prison trying to find her all week.
With that, my monmusu quest is over.
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Did my traditional yolo roll
(http://i.imgur.com/BUq7ToA.png?1)
WELL OK THEN
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UUUGGGGHHHH
PLEASE GUNGHO
why are you trolling me?
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Could be worse?
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2 rolls. Mystic Ice Knight and Cupid.
II'm dissatisfied of course, but at least I have all the Mystic Knights now.
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Did 4 rolls:
Vampire
Isis
Green Odin
Susano
One of my better REM results so I'm happy
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Got a Freyr, 2x shardan, and siren.
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Angel
Angel
Mystic Dark Knight
Angel
I don't know how I feel about this.
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Angel
Angel
Mystic Dark Knight
Angel
I don't know how I feel about this.
...The fact that you pulled three of the same thing in four pulls is astounding.
...Three not very good things, but still.
Maybe you could level them and just use them as autohealers? Tamadra seem to be getting handed out somewhat frequently anyway.
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Oh shiiiiit, I thought I had a Dragon Fruit but I don't. Well, I guess that goes on the "things to get to feed Valkyrie this week" list. Seems like an awful lot of opportunities for something to go wrong, but it'll be something to do. :V
For the record my two drops were Salamander and Dark Golem Mk II. I would almost shoot for another right now just out of spite, but I'm saving these in case the Valkyrie evolution project goes horribly awry and I need to restore stamina a bunch of times or something.
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Salamander/Ifrit's okay. I used him from earlygame-midgame, but then again my team actually demands fire mons.
Currently using Mk3 Dark Golem right now for defense break and when I just plain need a lot of HP. He gets like 4500 at L99 or something as Mk3, so he's decent to have around even if he's not worth 5 stones.
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Angel
Angel
Mystic Dark Knight
Angel
I don't know how I feel about this.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE PLAYING THIS TOO
Requesting friend id plox
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I pulled Susano no Mikoto. I already had Susano, so....
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Well, that was a waste of time. Saving the rest of my stones for... something?
Obviously for the next godfest which is going to Chinese/Heroes and roll the funnest leads.
Oh rolled an Isis.
Into the attic she goes.
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Yeah, if I'm going to farm skill-ups, I'm going to wait till Noah shows up.
Sorry if you got your hopes up, but the Hero skillups have miserable drop rates in Noah too. I did like 3 legend and 1 mythical runs and none dropped.
Factor in that there's only one in five chance that you get the colour you want, and it doesn't really seem that much better...unless you have multiple of them to skill up of course.
Why did they make heros skillups so difficult?
On the bright side, Pandora's skillup is very likely to win the next questionnaire dungeon whenever it comes up (I'm surprised there isn't one yet as the official twitter just reached 1million followers) because everyone and gungho love dark teams.
But I still don't have any of the heroes.
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Two pulls, two plus eggs, Mystic Dark Knight and... Izanagi?
I feel like I can actually do something with Izanagi eventually, but certainly not right now.
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Not even a single gold egg...Atleast I finally have a healer girl.
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Salamander/Ifrit's okay. I used him from earlygame-midgame, but then again my team actually demands fire mons.
Currently using Mk3 Dark Golem right now for defense break and when I just plain need a lot of HP. He gets like 4500 at L99 or something as Mk3, so he's decent to have around even if he's not worth 5 stones.
Get that golem a pope hate and a magic stick and make him a healer and he'll be under consideration. As it is, he's just a kind-of-goofy-looking robot taunting me with his lack of fish tail and musical talent.
Obviously for the next godfest which is going to Chinese/Heroes and roll the funnest leads.
Oh rolled an Isis.
Into the attic she goes.
I demand Evangelion. I'll pay upward of several money dollars to get a few different ones. I know you get them Evangelions in your video game zone video game makers, so give 'em to me!
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Friendly reminder that DBZ collab might secretly be around the corner, so another incentive to save stones if you're reluctant on pulling any more this fest.
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Friendly reminder that DBZ collab might secretly be around the corner, so another incentive to save stones if you're reluctant on pulling any more this fest.
:colonveeplusalpha:
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FUCK GODDAMIT
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Get that golem a pope hate and a magic stick and make him a healer and he'll be under consideration. As it is, he's just a kind-of-goofy-looking robot taunting me with his lack of fish tail and musical talent.
Even running healer teams sometimes you just need a big ol' chunk of HP regardless of getting the multiplier. A lot of us old fogeys think of them as garbage rolls just because we already have the complete set :V
I also wouldn't stone for stamina at your rank, you must have less than 50 total which can be fully regenerated over the course of a day (unless you're a cash player then go hog wild) With 2x drop you'll almost certainly get a Dragon Fruit Thursday within the day's worth of stamina. Puzzle and Dragons is a marathon, not a sprint. We'll be getting evo mats in the PAL machine shortly so you'll have a shot at what you need there.
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I'm ready to battle Rainbow Guardian, so if anyone has an Odin they can put up I'll be checking my phone every twenty minutes to half hour. I'd appreciate any help that can be offered, since that guy scary.
Friendly reminder that DBZ collab might secretly be around the corner, so another incentive to save stones if you're reluctant on pulling any more this fest.
Yeah, I don't really care about that. Sounds cool, not for me.
Even running healer teams sometimes you just need a big ol' chunk of HP regardless of getting the multiplier. A lot of us old fogeys think of them as garbage rolls just because we already have the complete set :V
If I'm going to use one it'll be the white or blue one I think. Right now, at least, the black one doesn't do anything for me. I'm going to save it in case I ever have a team that needs it, but for now it's just wasting space.
I also wouldn't stone for stamina at your rank, you must have less than 50 total which can be fully regenerated over the course of a day (unless you're a cash player then go hog wild) With 2x drop you'll almost certainly get a Dragon Fruit Thursday within the day's worth of stamina. Puzzle and Dragons is a marathon, not a sprint. We'll be getting evo mats in the PAL machine shortly so you'll have a shot at what you need there.
Refilling stamina isn't the plan, but I want the option. The 2x drops seem too good to not take advantage of, and part of this is to spite my neighbor across the hall/long-time rival (I rarely do anything anymore that isn't at least partly for spite :V) who keeps complaining about how hard it is to ultimate evo things and has been playing for way longer than me and has way more free time to invest. I figure if I can ultimate evo something before the end of my second week with the game I'll... I don't know, show him?
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DBZ dudes aren't that good. I'd roll one so you can say you have a DBZ guy and that's it. Not that fond of Saint Seiya either. Their dungeon drops are more interesting.
Sorry if you got your hopes up, but the Hero skillups have miserable drop rates in Noah too. I did like 3 legend and 1 mythical runs and none dropped.
Factor in that there's only one in five chance that you get the colour you want, and it doesn't really seem that much better...unless you have multiple of them to skill up of course.
Why did they make heros skillups so difficult?
On the bright side, Pandora's skillup is very likely to win the next questionnaire dungeon whenever it comes up (I'm surprised there isn't one yet as the official twitter just reached 1million followers) because everyone and gungho love dark teams.
But I still don't have any of the heroes.
Sure is fun having Perseus. I remember someone was actually jealous I got one when I rolled him. You play on the JP server too? What do you use? I usually go with G/D Genbu/Meimei. Though I have a low-leveled Horus and a decently leveled B/B Batman too.
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DBZ dudes aren't that good. I'd roll one so you can say you have a DBZ guy and that's it. Not that fond of Saint Seiya either. Their dungeon drops are more interesting.
Sure is fun having Perseus. I remember someone was actually jealous I got one when I rolled him. You play on the JP server too? What do you use? I usually go with G/D Genbu/Meimei. Though I have a low-leveled Horus and a decently leveled B/B Batman too.
>Have Astaroth but not Belial
>Gets the Red guy on Seiya dungeon 3rd battle all the time.
Them dropping evolved versions are nice but there's too many monsters arggg!
Yea, long time JP server player here. My main is Bastet, and I put Ra as my Team 1 leader usually. Been a fan of using Bastet way before her ultimate evolution 8)
I also uses D/D Haku sometimes.
Leaders I have but don't often use are Kirin, a decently-levelled Umiyama, and a okay-levelled Horus as well XD Also have Kilua and that dragon girl with angel from PADBT.
Been wanting a Meimei for my Bastet team since forever T_T *parsees your Meimei*
You're on JP server? :) My ID's 175,462,292.
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Huh, Technicals are actually pretty fun. It's nice to see the lesser monsters get their time as well.
Now that I have a Blazing Armor Ogre and Ice Armor Ogre, I don't even have to worry. Of course, as I type this I realize O coulda just put a Resolve leader in as I ended up doing in the end, but still.
Do they get hard at allm or not really?
EDIT: meant conditionals.
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Conditional technical dungeons are as easy as they seem. Even Bastet as a lead can slaughter with her off-color alone.
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The first of my five Valkyrie pieces is secured (thanks, Fast Fanatic). I have a zombie team ready to go for the next piece tomorrow for lack of any better ideas. Right now I have a Blue Ogre and four Blue Evolution Masks, as well as a bunch of active friends with Sirens. Do you think that would be best, or three masks and a Lilith to trivialize the last floor? Will I need all six of my characters to have the same element to make this work?
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The first of my five Valkyrie pieces is secured (thanks, Fast Fanatic). I have a zombie team ready to go for the next piece tomorrow for lack of any better ideas. Right now I have a Blue Ogre and four Blue Evolution Masks, as well as a bunch of active friends with Sirens. Do you think that would be best, or three masks and a Lilith to trivialize the last floor? Will I need all six of my characters to have the same element to make this work?
Another idea, if you can find one, is to grab a Shiva friend to null defense entirely and then just make sure to sweep each floor; then you can use any team who can attack everything and jist blow em to bits.
Other than that, as long as you can prevent yourself from being hit twice in one turn(which either team you mentioned could do with proper orb mangement) you'll be fine with either team you mentioned I think.
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Another idea, if you can find one, is to grab a Shiva friend to null defense entirely and then just make sure to sweep each floor; then you can use any team who can attack everything and jist blow em to bits.
Other than that, as long as you can prevent yourself from being hit twice in one turn(which either team you mentioned could do with proper orb mangement) you'll be fine with either team you mentioned I think.
Okay, I think I have at least one friend with a Shiva. If it happens to be up I'll do that, and if I can't get the zombie thing going I'll go find more.
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I would bring the Lilith as a back up incase you mess up at any floor or invades
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Whee, nearing the end of Mars Crater, then just...two more dungeons and I'll be at Starlight Sanctuary?
Sorta scared of temlast place since IIRC it's WAY above the tier below in difficulty. Oh well, omward, to...something!
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I HAVE A SHIVA
OR AN AUTOHEALER
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Oh right, I suppose my ult'd Alraune might be of interest too...or is her HP too high?
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Nevermind, she's fine, still can fullheal thanks to her Awakenings. I'll try to remember to put her up before I go to sleep tonight.
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[03:03:05] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> okay
[03:03:07] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> it is now time
[03:03:14] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I have ~23 rolls for PAL egg machine
[03:04:05] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> time for desperation rolls
[03:05:20] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> first gold egg
[03:05:25] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Rainbow Keeper
[03:05:26] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> sigh
[03:05:33] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> second, yellow dragon fruit
[03:05:46] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> thirD IS GOLD KEEPER
[03:05:49] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> FINALLY
[03:05:52] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> FINALLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Oh the masks are in now too. Wouldn't mind rolling a blue mask for healer I&I.
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Huh, so apparently my monored is tanky and damaging enough to just do Room of the Mask Expert no problems, combining Ares, Meteor Vulcano Dragon, Horus and Tyrannos I have enough damage to outdamage the masks defenses so I just really have to stall it out up to floor 4.
And stalling on masks is absurdly easy. :V
So far no Mystic Mask drop, which sucks because I need to evolve Highlander ASAP.
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Well, my first mask attempt was a failure, but I learned something I didn't know regarding when I have to pop Lilith. If the third-tier masks are synced with four turns or fewer I can't kill them easily with just my saved orbs. Fair enough. Next attempt is up in a few minutes, should be able to do a couple more at least during breaks at work later.
I would bring the Lilith as a back up incase you mess up at any floor or invades
Did do. Seems worth the slightly lower damage output, although I might have cleared my first run if I didn't have her. Still, bringing her again next time.
I HAVE A SHIVA
OR AN AUTOHEALER
I might take you up on that Shiva later pending how my next few tries go.
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Beat expert Masks, but no Mystic Mask. Oh well, I know the strategy works. Try again later.
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Good luck! Getting Mystic Mask is definitely an exercise in patience...Not looking forward to all the ones I need...
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this game doesn't want to give me a devilit on the PEM
PLEASE
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Got my Mystic Mask, evolved Highlander into Cu Chu.
Kind of a bummer that I won't be able to really use my Horus Team until I uvo him but not much I can do.
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Finally reached my stagnation point in the game where I can't advance in any dungeon anymore even with healers.
Turns out my team is pretty underleved and I get my hp smashed in near half or more by high-mid leveled monsters. Which isn't a problem if it's only one, but it is when there's a lot that has 1 turn and I have no monster strong enough to do an insta-kill AOE.
Time to actually farm Pengdras and stuff.
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Finally reached my stagnation point in the game where I can't advance in any dungeon anymore even with healers.
Turns out my team is pretty underleved and I get my hp smashed in near half or more by high-mid leveled monsters. Which isn't a problem if it's only one, but it is when there's a lot that has 1 turn and I have no monster strong enough to do an insta-kill AOE.
Time to actually farm Pengdras and stuff.
What part are you at? I can lend I max-leveled Valkyrie with some +eggs if that'll help.
I tried Heracles today. I love these skill bind resists, they make things so easy. Too bad he didn't drop. Nothing dropped in the whole dungeon actually. It not like I was planning to use anything there I didn't already have anyway.
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What part are you at? I can lend I max-leveled Valkyrie with some +eggs if that'll help.
I tried Heracles today. I love these skill bind resists, they make things so easy. Too bad he didn't drop. Nothing dropped in the whole dungeon actually. It not like I was planning to use anything there I didn't already have anyway.
Normal - Polar Night Tower
Technical - Faithless Temple with No Name
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Second clear of the day, no Mystic Mask again. Assuming I don't lose any runs I think I can try five more times today, so I should get one eventually. The zombie strategy seems pretty stable if you're careful.
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what the heck game
I don't remember doing anything to deserve this at all, please spread the luck around to everyone else
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I had 20 pulls saved up for masks and I think the best thing I got was a blue chaser
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I got four gold eggs with 21 pulls.
All of them were Divine Masks of varying colors.
Guess my PEM luck has run out after 2 Angelits, 2 of each Trifruit and a Golden Keeper huh :colonveeplusalpha:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LH2aEKrhP8
Meanwhile, a Noah team with 200000 HP.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LH2aEKrhP8
Meanwhile, a Noah team with 200000 HP.
Ohhhh. Odin, that's a really good way to deal with Noah's rcv weakness.
Otherwise, Actually somewhat disappointing. I was hoping to see higher numbers.
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Still no Mystic Mask after four tries. I'm out of Sirens on my friends list. Anyone got one they can put up? Doesn't need to be good, just needs to be a Siren.
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Add me and I'll put one up. ID 331,616,320
Edit: wrong ID, fixed
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Add me and I'll put one up. ID 331,616,320
Edit: wrong ID, fixed
Kay, I added you but I don't see you as an option when I go into the dungeon yet. Thanks.
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Should be up now.
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It is, thanks.
Edit: Fuuuuuck, invade and it dropped at the end too. Thank you video games, and thank you Conqueror.
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(http://i.imgur.com/1gT7Wk3.png)
all hail the supremely broken burst queen
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I'm not using my Sakuya as much as I thought I'd be using a maxed Sakuya... It feels like too much effort for regular farming.
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It is, thanks.
Edit: Fuuuuuck, invade and it dropped at the end too. Thank you video games, and thank you Conqueror.
Do you still need more, or feel like attempting to stock up? In case that's so, I'm getting my Alraune up since I'm not playing myself right now.
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Do you still need more, or feel like attempting to stock up? In case that's so, I'm getting my Alraune up since I'm not playing myself right now.
I'm good for now, thanks. Valkyrie is basically the only thing I own worth evolving right now that takes much material, and I don't really have the slots for a bunch of masks.
By the way, how many slots do people usually have? I've been trying to keep my box size in line with my rank, is that enough? Am I going to regret not having stockpiles at some point? In particular I've just been wasting my baby metal/jewel dragons because I don't have the space to keep a bunch of them and dragon plants and pengdras around (although I do have a few sapphires saved for when I inevitably get a lot of dragon plants tomorrow).
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Well, I have 130 spots now, and it's plenty. Really it depends on how much evo material you're stocking up on and how much exp. fodder you plan to keep. Right now's a time where you don't really need to hoard enhance materials since there's an event active, and as for evo materials, that depends on how many evos you wanna try to prep for at once. If you only have one or two monsters needing evolved, just reserve the ten boxes for their materials and don't sweat the rest unless there's some other reason you wanna hold onto them, like if you want some extra Rainbow Keepers for some reason.
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I have 190 spots and I never feel like I have enough, but then again I'm one of those people who always has inventory trouble in every game.
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375 and i'm still often bumping into my limit.
Never have enough space.
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375 and i'm still often bumping into my limit.
Never have enough space.
480 and still having issues. I'm a packrat.
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375 and i'm still often bumping into my limit.
Never have enough space.
Geez, what all do you put in there that it takes so much? What kinda distribution of stuff is in there?
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Geez, what all do you put in there that it takes so much? What kinda distribution of stuff is in there?
I am at 450 right now and my box is filled with unevolved skillup materials.
Having to evolve stuff before they get an active skill is the most annoying thing ever. :(
Also packing all kinds of evolve materials in case I need them someday, most notably all kinds of dragon fruits from PEM... :V
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I am at 450 right now and my box is filled with unevolved skillup materials.
Having to evolve stuff before they get an active skill is the most annoying thing ever. :(
Also packing all kinds of evolve materials in case I need them someday, most notably all kinds of dragon fruits from PEM... :V
This. I think the stuff I actually use is like 50. 80 at most. I have about 40 space invaders with I&I's name on it. Now if only I could use I&I in descending dungeons.
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Just expanded from 250 to 300 here. Really need the space for evo mats and all these collabs jumping at me, not to mention collecting heras and two heroes etc
Edit: Unlike the REM, you're guaranteed to get the 25 extra slots for 5 stones as well!!!1111
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all hail the supremely broken burst queen
It's a shame you have to sacrifice so much utility for the sake of a 75x burst. Not to mention there not being any good green physical subs other than Parvati, Guan Yu and THREE GOLD KEEPER GOLEMS.
The uevo is already worth it because of those awakenings but.
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It's a shame you have to sacrifice so much utility for the sake of a 75x burst. Not to mention there not being any good green physical subs other than Parvati, Guan Yu and THREE GOLD KEEPER GOLEMS.
The uevo is already worth it because of those awakenings but.
Not to mention how mediocre King Bubblie is (although its the best out of all kings because of its awakenings)
Personally I prefer sticking to God Enhance with Izanagi if you have it, or simply have it be a mostly-light team with light orb makers like Apollo or Valkyrie.
Fairy Tale series' skills are revealed. They're all heartmakers with a 1 turn bind recovery attached to it so that its cooldown has to be longer than 5. Still much better than the golems that will be taken out of gacha soon. Goodbye golem fes jokes. :V (Edit: It was a lie! They're only lowering the rates golem are pulled :<)
Snow White is so obviously Noah support, I mean Physical/God type on snow white... what?
Thumbelina makes hearts from red. As all Astaroth owners continue regret how we bombarded Yamamoto's twitter back then on how Light->Green screws over Astaroth counterattack teams that he changed it to Red->Green, he continues to tease all green team users with more orb changers involving red orbs. :qq:
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They're all pretty cute, at least.
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Ha ha ha I like Snow White's art with her posse of dwarves. In fact, can we get a Posse Of Dwarves monster?
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I been playin dis game for an eternity basically. I think I joined just before the 2nd time Hera Descended ever showed up so yeah >_> I been on kinda a long hiatus though but still log in every day so if you want to sometimes use my hypermax Bastet or something hit me up I'll prob add everyone here if I know its you adding me.
364,034,295
Mostly run Bastet, Gaia, R/D Shiva, Ronia etc leaders
https://www.padherder.com/user/TheSeiferOne/monsters/#31,0,31,2047,,0,0,0,eq,0,0;default,0 heres my massively outdated padherder
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It's a shame you have to sacrifice so much utility for the sake of a 75x burst. Not to mention there not being any good green physical subs other than Parvati, Guan Yu and THREE GOLD KEEPER GOLEMS.
The uevo is already worth it because of those awakenings but.
Heracles is good too! But for real my green sub right now is Odin, because he's a fantastic stat stick, healer, and is capable of giving 2000 hp every turn once his ult comes out. So that's gonna cool too.
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Does anyone actually do physical Kirin?
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So, how does one actually do the whole rerolling thing on iOS? Friend of mine wants to start playing and all.
Also, I heard there was a way for me to do the rerolling thing for him using the Secret Code, how does one do that?
(I mean, I might as well.)
@Edit
Nevermind, we got it.
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Does anyone actually do physical Kirin?
not really :V There's really no point except maybe for gold keeper or something
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Does anyone actually do physical Kirin?
Cool people do.
Do you want to be cool?
They're all pretty cute, at least.
I'm confused about how terrible their leaderskills are...
Is it because five awakenings cause uh
those aren't really top-tier awakenings.
Are they actually silver eggs? That'd explain a lot, yo. Edit: ah they are after checking the article. Welp.
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Yeah they're basically fruit dragon mk2 except with worse awakenings
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Their evolved versions are gold, the unevolved versions are silver.
Also, I have reached the Ocean of Heaven!
Which means that my monored has hit a brick wall.
No way in hell I can deal 253k damage in a single hit to one-shot Neptune, but at least I should be able to do the other stages relatively easily.
Also got my Gigas to level 79 thanks to Rouge, which means that before applying helper, I now have almost 14k HP.
Would evolving my Neptune to W/L be worth it just so I can deal with OoH safely?
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Their evolved versions are gold, the unevolved versions are silver.
Also, I have reached the Ocean of Heaven!
Which means that my monored has hit a brick wall.
No way in hell I can deal 253k damage in a single hit to one-shot Neptune, but at least I should be able to do the other stages relatively easily.
Also got my Gigas to level 79 thanks to Rouge, which means that before applying helper, I now have almost 14k HP.
Would evolving my Neptune to W/L be worth it just so I can deal with OoH safely?
Monored? No need. Find a friend with a Shiva.
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Monored? No need. Find a friend with a Shiva.
I imagine dealing with the blue carbuncle would be quite annoying.
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Yeah they're basically fruit dragon mk2 except with worse awakenings
Fruit Dragons have way better leader skill though ;v So it's actually just strange as hell they're only 1.5x/1.5x.
Also my initial reading was pretty flawed, actually. Enhance standard is sad but not all of them are stuck with a 2prong, and BindImmune/SkillBoost is a pretty solid standard among the set. They've solid awakenings actually.
Red is actually really good because her only actual weak link is enhance. At that, She's red healer, she has a row, and valkyries just got a shiny new row... Yeah. Red looks pretty solid. Oh by the way, Heart making is pretty nice when your leader is a heartbreaker ;v She looks like something pretty good for a start of a red healer team, to be honest. Not sure about Red Physical, but she'd probably be solid there to boot.
Snow is kind of weird, but yeah I think she was kind of made with Noah in mind? She's completely bind immune so with her noah will never have to worry about her heartmaker shutting down atleast. Bind recovering also helps clear out Noah if she gets bound (so i just found out noah has what luci has needed for ages in a bind immune awakening yeah i mad >:<), combined with her active it's really solid bind control for noah. If her stats turn out okay she'll work fine. She could also work with sieg somewhat, to boot.
Thumbelina I have no idea what to say. Green valk isn't even a thing yet and green attacker needs a lot more than her and lacks a heart breaker iirc anyway. She...fits into green attacker with 2prong atleast? It's not enough and green attacker tbh needed something different than a heartmaker but they tried?
Cinderella is kind of iffy because light is a terrible type at the moment, but extend time is actually nice to have around so theres that. Light physical is a thing anyway! (Even if the main leader is bind immune, wants rows badly instead of 2-prong, and can't make good use of a heart maker) Actually scratch that wasn't there a physical heartbreaker for light? That's cool then.
I'm completely out on sleeping beauty atm but she's got active skill block so she might be cool for Luci mask dungeoning, and her attack seems rather high. I'd say she have a use in genbu because she has both of her types but they made her convert fucking wood....
overall, They're actually not bad. Except Thumbelina.
Because fuck green attacker.
Edit: also relatedly, if they didn't fuck up Luci's ultimate and did the bare minimum for something useful and made him effect water/dark... Snow would be great for him, much like Noah.
Thanks, gungho.
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Their evolved versions are gold, the unevolved versions are silver.
Also, I have reached the Ocean of Heaven!
Which means that my monored has hit a brick wall.
No way in hell I can deal 253k damage in a single hit to one-shot Neptune, but at least I should be able to do the other stages relatively easily.
Also got my Gigas to level 79 thanks to Rouge, which means that before applying helper, I now have almost 14k HP.
Would evolving my Neptune to W/L be worth it just so I can deal with OoH safely?
As someone who recently got into the mainstream habit of farming it for plus eggs, I'm just going to say watch out for that double buncle wave. It gives me a hell of a lot more trouble than Neptune himself at this point.
I haven't tried a poison strat, but I actually took the time to make my dark golem Mk3 and about lv40 before I tried. - 75%def seems to be more than enough for me to punch through him (unsure about monored, I also run 12.25x or higher multipliers), but if you can hit over 24k def this might be a viable option, and because golems are really beefy it might help you with the double buncles. Though Shiva adds fire multiplier and solves the problem of needing to cut defense, and there's quite a few people here who do have him *coughchaorecough*
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I'm rank 55, and on Tomb Of The Saint-Deep. Are the ogres supposed to be able to one-shot me? They definitely can, even if I bring a buff friend along for more HP. Which wouldn't be a big problem, except that four out of five times that I run a level I randomly hit a double-green ogre floor at some point. Not really sure what I'm supposed to be doing here.
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What's your HP total at anyways, not including a friend's leader?
Green Ogres there hit for ~6400 every four turns and have ~29000 HP. While it's regarded as completely useless as a leader, I have something with a universal 2x attack leader and a 25,000 damage nuke on a four turn cooldown.
I will have to explain to everyone else why I'm using Caol-Ila as a leader though.
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What I personally did was to take some
days weeks off farming Fire Forest Nerva (Since I run a monored, which dungeon you run is up to your team) to beef them up, this also got me a good few ranks.
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Sleeping beauty looks adorable. I'd roll for her.
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Sleeping beauty looks adorable. I'd roll for her.
She and Red definitely got the best art, I'd say.
I'm really hoping I can figure some use for her, but that wood convert....
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What's your HP total at anyways, not including a friend's leader?
Green Ogres there hit for ~6400 every four turns and have ~29000 HP. While it's regarded as completely useless as a leader, I have something with a universal 2x attack leader and a 25,000 damage nuke on a four turn cooldown.
I will have to explain to everyone else why I'm using Caol-Ila as a leader though.
5038, although hopefully tonight/tomorrow morning I can ultimate evolve Valkrie in which case I'm changing it up a little to a team with a little more. If I can get another gold king dragon from somewhere it'll be quite a lot more.
I swear I died from over 7000 health earlier in a hit from one of them, but I must've either been not full or something else hit with it that I didn't realize. How much variability is there in "~6400"? Regardless, knowing roughly the amount makes planning easier.
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Monsters always deal the exact same amount of damage, unless you count things that reduce damage, like Awakenings and Skills/Leader Skills, of course.
Ogres in the Tomb of the Saint-Deep deal 6250 (red), 6361 (blue) and 6458 (green) damage per hit.
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Monsters always deal the exact same amount of damage, unless you count things that reduce damage, like Awakenings and Skills/Leader Skills, of course.
Ogres in the Tomb of the Saint-Deep deal 6250 (red), 6361 (blue) and 6458 (green) damage per hit.
Bastards! So the ones I can't burst down if they appear in pairs are also the ones who do the most damage. In fact, I would have lived if any of the others hit me on one of my runs earlier, since I only died by like 50 damage. I'll just have to go back later with super-Valkyrie and the added damage should be enough to finish off both green ones before they hit me given normal combos.
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when idunn and idunnas new ult evo comes out i can then help your healer teams hp
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Rider and Dragon Fest incoming. (Along with some random other stuff, including Kushi, I&I, and Fire!Valk.
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I'm still sad that I can't use that new ult :(
Skilling her up for nothing.
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Does having a subattribute mean you count as that color? My roommate runs Archangel Raphael, so if Valkyrie becomes white when I evolve her I can use that a lot to massively pad my HP.
Rider and Dragon Fest incoming. (Along with some random other stuff, including Kushi, I&I, and Fire!Valk.
What are those? Do I care about any of them?
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Yes it does, as fas as leader skills goes, it affects any monster that has a specific color as either their main or sub element.
Example, my Tyrannos (x2 ATK and RCV for fire type) would not affect Siegfried because he's a water monster, unless I uvo'd him to his non-golden keeper form, at which point, he gets a fire sub element, so my Tyrannos would now affect him.
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probably shouldnt have bothered with this but hey this guy looks bad ass
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2mwg82.png)
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Commandercool, some reading for you:
Kushi = Kushinadahime: Wood element, active reduces damage by 75% for one turn. Leader deals increasing damage as combo count rises. 1.5x at 3 combo, +0.5x per combo up to 10x damage.
I&I = Idunn & Idunna: Water element. Active enhances water orbs. Leader skill inceases Water (and Balanced, when evo'd to their Water/Water ult form) Atk and Rcv to 2x. They have an alternate ult evo in Japan that'll be here hopefully before people die of old age which gives Healers(notably dropping Water support) HPx1.35, Atkx3.
Fire!Valk = Burning Maiden, Princess Valkyrie. Active is Attack Stance Fire, leader is the same as other Valkyries.
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Yes it does, as fas as leader skills goes, it affects any monster that has a specific color as either their main or sub element.
Example, my Tyrannos (x2 ATK and RCV for fire type) would not affect Siegfried because he's a water monster, unless I uvo'd him to his non-golden keeper form, at which point, he gets a fire sub element, so my Tyrannos would now affect him.
Excellent. Seems like a good deal.
Commandercool, some reading for you:
Kushi = Kushinadahime: Wood element, active reduces damage by 75% for one turn. Leader deals increasing damage as combo count rises. 1.5x at 3 combo, +0.5x per combo up to 10x damage.
I&I = Idunn & Idunna: Water element. Active enhances water orbs. Leader skill inceases Water (and Balanced, when evo'd to their Water/Water ult form) Atk and Rcv to 2x. They have an alternate ult evo in Japan that'll be here hopefully before people die of old age which gives Healers(notably dropping Water support) HPx1.35, Atkx3.
Fire!Valk = Burning Maiden, Princess Valkyrie. Active is Attack Stance Fire, leader is the same as other Valkyries.
Okay, good. So what will these characters be doing? Will they have dungeons or something, or just increased drop rates?
Also, am I reading correctly that ninjas have an increased drop rate starting tomorrow? If so, is Hatsume No Tsubome as good for me as I think she is? Seems like a blue healer with an orb change ability is great for blue Valkyrie. I might have to do a lot of egg machine pulls next week fishing for her unless there's some reason she won't work as well as I think she will.
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I was wrong about the Valk in the Fest, btw, it's the Dark one, Blazing Maiden, that's gonna be involved, so you know.
The monsters will be in the REM, but at 3x rates just like during Godfests.
UNLIKE Godfests, though, the Special Gods and such will not be obtainable, as a side note.
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(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/Screenshot_2014-07-04-09-44-07.png)
Valkyrie posts a picture of her expensive meal to Tumblr.
(http://i838.photobucket.com/albums/zz304/dummy2205/Screenshot_2014-07-04-09-45-12.png)
Mmmm, tasty. Valkyrie still hungers, but maybe not quite as badly after that.
Took five tries to get the Dub-Saphilit to drop, and I got four Dub-Mythlits in the process. So those are just sitting in my box being cool now I guess.
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Believe me that later on you'll be craving these Dubmythlits, especially when the only source of them outside of Friday Dungeon is Starlight Sanctuary and... I don't even know if Hill of Iris's Rainbow actually drops Dubmyths, to be honest, but even in the case it does, they are literally the final Normal/Technical dungeons (respectively) before the "special" ones (Conditional Dungeons for the Technical ones and "Legendaries" for Normal Dungeons).
Speaking of Dubmyths, I ran Shrine of the Spirits twice today, I dropped three dubmyths, I didn't even need them.
I know I will eventually though.
Eventually.
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Believe me that later on you'll be craving these Dubmythlits, especially when the only source of them outside of Friday Dungeon is Starlight Sanctuary and... I don't even know if Hill of Iris's Rainbow actually drops Dubmyths, to be honest, but even in the case it does, they are literally the final Normal/Technical dungeons (respectively) before the "special" ones (Conditional Dungeons for the Technical ones and "Legendaries" for Normal Dungeons).
Speaking of Dubmyths, I ran Shrine of the Spirits twice today, I dropped three dubmyths, I didn't even need them.
I know I will eventually though.
Eventually.
Worst case, you can recruit them for your draggie army. I need dubbies right now. I don't feel friday dungeon though.
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so i'm like "FUCK I HAVE NO MORE BOX SPACE"
and then i realize I have evo materials for Cyclone Devil Dragon.
bam box space woo
at least those green trifruits served me something :V
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I'm seriously considering tamaing my Devil Dragon. I wish rippers got better awakenings though. Can they get another skill boost pretty please? Or let me skill them up without throwing 450k xp in to every attempt? PAD Z collab sucks :(
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I'm seriously considering tamaing my Devil Dragon. I wish rippers got better awakenings though. Can they get another skill boost pretty please? Or let me skill them up without throwing 450k xp in to every attempt? PAD Z collab sucks :(
this man here speaks truth
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Woot Takeminakata Mythical no-stoned
screw Anubis I did it with TAMADRApurin
I don't have any Anubis friends and mine is severely underwhelming.
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I think I have my team for the immediate future figured out. Ideally, I want to use this:
Valkyrie (Have already)
King Shynee (Need a King Gold Dragon to make)
Angel (Have already)
Mermaid/Siren (Need)
Machine Golem (Need, but might substitute Dark Golem until I get one)
Does that look any good? Obviously I don't have a ton of control over stuff I don't own, but is there anything that I should be looking out for to replace something?
Also, do we have any idea when King Gold Dragons will be available next? I stupidly fed mine because I thought Big Shynee needed a Super King to evolve, and he seems like he would be a huge help to my team right now.
Also also, do multipliers stack additively or multiplicatively? I seem to be hearing conflicting information on this. If I bring another Valkyrie into a dungeon will my healers get x6 or x9 attack? And if I activate King Shynee does that become x9 or x27? I suppose it ultimately doesn't matter that much since it won't effect my team composition one way or another, but it would be useful for deciding when to use Raphael as my assist and when to use another Valkyrie.
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Also also, do multipliers stack additively or multiplicatively? I seem to be hearing conflicting information on this. If I bring another Valkyrie into a dungeon will my healers get x6 or x9 attack? And if I activate King Shynee does that become x9 or x27? I suppose it ultimately doesn't matter that much since it won't effect my team composition one way or another, but it would be useful for deciding when to use Raphael as my assist and when to use another Valkyrie.
x9 and x27 respectively.
And that looks pretty much like my team, except I've got Echidna and L/L Venus instead of Archangel and Machine Golem. Should be fine, though healer teams aren't known for being tanky.
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x9 and x27 respectively.
And that looks pretty much like my team, except I've got Echidna and L/L Venus instead of Archangel and Machine Golem. Should be fine, though healer teams aren't known for being tanky.
Goddamn. That makes ever bothering to run anything but a Valkyrie in my assist slot a lot less appealing.
I'm not really shooting for "tanky" exactly, I just need a buffer so that half the game can't kill me in one hit. Seems like I lose half of the random dungeons I run because either the boss can one-shot me or I get unlucky with two bulky, high-damage enemies syncing and resisting my hits. I feel like I need enough HP to be able to abuse my huge recovery, which doesn't do anything if I die in one hit. But I guess Echidna basically fills that role by giving me a few more turns of huge burst damage, which should have the same result. She goes on the team for sure once I get her, at least against some dungeons.
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I don't really recommend using king slimes until you have the stats to accommodate it. You should probably just farm for an Echidna and get some ranks while you're at it.
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Oh, okay. Fair enough. Where's the best place to get her then?
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Goddamn. That makes ever bothering to run anything but a Valkyrie in my assist slot a lot less appealing.
Well, light Metatron. :V
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Goddamn. That makes ever bothering to run anything but a Valkyrie in my assist slot a lot less appealing.
Bastet also says hello.
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Don't forget Isis!
Edit: I got machine golem from the pal machine earlier so dumping levels now :V
I think you can also get him from the second level of dungeon of light, so spamming that for pal points at 1/2 stam ain't a bad idea.
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Oh, okay. Fair enough. Where's the best place to get her then?
Any place where she drops is a good place (Try Fire Forest Nerva's second stage, I dropped her there once). The best place is her own personal dungeon (Scarlet Snake Princess) but that comes around once in never.
Aside from that, it's either PEM or REM for you, the naga I'm using right now was gotten as my second REM Pull.
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I think Flame Snake Woman in Volcano of Vulcan has 3x the chance since 3 nagas.
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nah its not any higher
you think gungho is merciful? :V
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I think you can also get him from the second level of dungeon of light, so spamming that for pal points at 1/2 stam ain't a bad idea.
Sounds plausible, I'll do it.
Any place where she drops is a good place (Try Fire Forest Nerva's second stage, I dropped her there once). The best place is her own personal dungeon (Scarlet Snake Princess) but that comes around once in never.
Sounds good.
Aside from that, it's either PEM or REM for you, the naga I'm using right now was gotten as my second REM Pull.
Yeah... Yeah. I'm not used to playing collectible games where I can't just acquire things when I want them.
I think Flame Snake Woman in Volcano of Vulcan has 3x the chance since 3 nagas.
Is that how that works? I sometimes throw stamina into Mermaid's Feast when I'm about to level up hoping it works that way, but I've never been sure if it actually does.
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Secret algorithm, who knows. Worth the shot, unless you want to farm the higher naga dungeons for better gold/exp.
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Secret algorithm, who knows. Worth the shot, unless you want to farm the higher naga dungeons for better gold/exp.
we do
drops work by choosing 'what can drop' out of all the spawned monsters, then rolling the chance for that monster.
3 naga means nothing since each naga has the same chance to drop.
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I heard monmusu farming talk!
If you want and idea of how awful these rates are, I ran clayus prison/witch of the darkness about 100 times, half of which on 1.5x.
Lilith appears on the last two waves. Never got a drop.
Prepare for the worst. Aim for high xp/chance for rare mats, so the stamina won't have been a waste.
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I heard monmusu farming talk!
If you want and idea of how awful these rates are, I ran clayus prison/witch of the darkness about 100 times, half of which on 1.5x.
Lilith appears on the last two waves. Never got a drop.
Prepare for the worst. Aim for high xp/chance for rare mats, so the stamina won't have been a waste.
Damn, that is... Low. I don't really have anything great that Echidna drops on right now. Maybe later when I unlock some of the later stages.
Is there any trick to pulling from the pal egg machine? I get slimes like 75% of the time, and every time someone posts a series of pulls they seem to be relatively garbage-free. Does saving up enough points to do ten at once actually matter?
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The rule of thumbs is to only pull during events which actually matter to you, there's almost always either a Jewel Dragons or a Rare Evo Material event happening on the PEM. You just save up the points and pull all of them once the event starts.
But even then, you're likely to get a lot of garbage, and I do mean a lot. For example, between the last three Rare Evo Materials events I pulled two Angelits, two of each trifruits, a Golden Keeper and now, an Ancient Green Mask, these are all end-game tier evolution materials. So I essentially got 10 actually good things out of them, I must've pulled about... 80~90 times, counting all three events. The rest was garbage with the occasionally useful thing (i.e: Mystic Masks).
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At least it's not all super garbage though. You can usually feed a chunk of it away for xp or a skill attempt.
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Gotta hoard up those random skill up PAL rolls just in case I end up rolling that one god later.
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Don't think I posted my ID here either 323743297
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Huh, just beat Takaminakata Legend half-blind on a whim. A shame he didn't drop, woulda been neat to say I snagged him, but oh well. At least I know I can try seriously when he comes back.
He's probably like the easiest Descend on Legend, isn't he? Having a 2 turn timer really helps.
(also a 16 combo skyfall spectacular against that dragon so it only hit with its preemptive, but anyway.)
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Made a shit ton of rolls on Carnival.
Got Two Kushi, Hanzo, Blue Valk, and all the riders I didn't have.
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He's probably like the easiest Descend on Legend, isn't he?
Ignoring the fact that he screws over Kirin, U&Y, Ra, D. Meta, Pandora and to a lesser extent the other Chinese gods, yes. If you can run him despite all that, the combos should just play the game for you. It's like an Anubis dream.
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*1 Hour before Friday Dungeon ends.
"Ah, I have no more healer friends that have Rondo of Healing, might as well wait. Still got an hour to go and 28 Stamina. I'll just switch my party leader so that my friends can use it."
*After 45 Mins.
"Finally, a healer friend. Time to rock."
*Clicks Enter Dungeon hastily
*Sees Party lineup >after< clicking Enter Dungeon
"Sh*t..."
*Attempts to finish dungeon with no Ogre as Leader
*Fails
I need to pause on my actions once in a while. Atleast I got some number of decent evo lits I needed. Still I needed more for future stuff.
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Ha. Decided to do a random Flame Snake Woman run before going to bed to burn off some stamina that would have been wasted otherwise. I bet you can guess what happened, or I wouldn't have bothered posting. :derp:
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and so i was like "hey let's do twinlits for shits and giggles i know I can't do it anyway.
and then this happened
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/YakumoSilver/Screenshot_2014-07-05-13-20-41_zpsd000828b.png)
and i thought about what to do for like 30 minutes because i've never been this far before
then then this happened
(http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l547/YakumoSilver/Screenshot_2014-07-05-14-00-50_zpsc4d90f29.png)
I CAN DO TWINLITS FINALLY :toot: :toot: :toot:
(1 stoned because didn't have hp to get through the preemptives floor 4)
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Ha. Decided to do a random Flame Snake Woman run before going to bed to burn off some stamina that would have been wasted otherwise. I bet you can guess what happened, or I wouldn't have bothered posting. :derp:
I got Echidna in PEM.
But I really have no use for her right now, except as my main fire monster. I'm glad you actually need her.
What I really need is a Siren. I mean, Archangel is good and all. But I really need Water.
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Ha. Decided to do a random Flame Snake Woman run before going to bed to burn off some stamina that would have been wasted otherwise. I bet you can guess what happened, or I wouldn't have bothered posting. :derp:
That's the way to do it! Welcome to the monstergirl farming circuit.
I CAN DO TWINLITS FINALLY :toot: :toot: :toot:
Dang. LMeta strong. Waiting to get a Hera leveled here before I even try. I'm definitely going to have to use an Isis lead or something because stalling on binds doesn't sound fun.
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So I got through OoH because Chaore's Shiva is a blessing.
I'm probably not even gonna bother farming it for +eggs until I can do it easily though.
But holy crap, 5 stages and 4 +eggs gotten, the ratios on these things are insanely high aren't they?
Anyway, T6 Elemental Dungeons should be next, just how good are they to farm for EXP purposes?
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When does Hunt X Dragon dungeons occur? Is it random or is it scheduled?
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Of weird note, the *first* level of each of those dungeons gives the most xp (7000+/14stam for sky city/junos island), and dublits can be found here.
Maybe I'm also unlucky, but I feel the plus egg rate is about the same right now there, so I'm staying there for now.
...and if you're into that kind of thing, the middle levels have three different monmusu as drops now :ohdear:
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When does Hunt X Dragon dungeons occur? Is it random or is it scheduled?
From what I understand, puzzledragonx (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/) has a rough calculator that sort of works. They seem to be scheduled, but we don't really know how the schedule is made. It seems to be based on your user ID. You can enter yours and it helps you find them sometimes. I had been told it was unreliable and then had it give me correct times three times in a row... Until I realized it's in PDT. :derp: A broken clock has sapphire dragons twice a day.
I've found a more reliable way to get them is to realize halfway through the day "You know, I haven't seen a dragon hunt yet. There's probably going to be one soon" and save up a little stamina. There usually is one within the next couple of hours. Just check every hour on the hour if possible.
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From what I understand, puzzledragonx (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/) has a rough calculator that sort of works. They seem to be scheduled, but we don't really know how the schedule is made. It seems to be based on your user ID. You can enter yours and it helps you find them sometimes. I had been told it was unreliable and then had it give me correct times three times in a row... Until I realized it's in PDT. :derp: A broken clock has sapphire dragons twice a day.
I've found a more reliable way to get them is to realize halfway through the day "You know, I haven't seen a dragon hunt yet. There's probably going to be one soon" and save up a little stamina. There usually is one within the next couple of hours. Just check every hour on the hour if possible.
Puzzledragon x is usually accurate any problems are usually on Gungho's end.
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wtf (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJiqy5OrW0)
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Good ol' 100% wood resist team.
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wtf (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pJiqy5OrW0)
well then
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THEY SAID I WAS CRAZY
THE SAID IT WOULD NEVER WORK
-WHOS LAUGHING NOW-
Edit: also wow, the fairytales have some solid stats for physical. Like. Straight up fucktons of RCV and HP.
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Once again they are rEALLY pushing green attacker, no surprise. But Attacker/Healer? This intrigues the hell out of me because holy fucking shit look at that atk and rcv. You will fit in nicely on either my Metatron or Dark Metatron teams~
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Once again they are rEALLY pushing green attacker, no surprise. But Attacker/Healer? This intrigues the hell out of me because holy fucking shit look at that atk and rcv. You will fit in nicely on either my Metatron or Dark Metatron teams~
Yeah, and once again I -really- don't think thumbelina is what Green Attacker is salivating for.
I was about to say green healer isn't a thing but i forgot about our cat overlord. So I guess Bastet might have use for her?
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I guess she could also be a supplement for LValk too.
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I guess she could also be a supplement for LValk too.
Possibly? I don't see much on LValk's team she could replace- Angelion is straight up less rare than her with all forms in the gacha, and LValk is super light focused since that's basically what valk makes.
Thumbelina's Two-Prong also makes since considering bastet- A four orb is easier to sneak into a bunch of combos than a row.
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Bastet being one of the only competent green healer leaders does make sense, yeah.
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Bastet being one of the only competent green healer leaders does make sense, yeah.
Yeah, either that or they're hyping green valk to be TWO PRONG MASTER RACE
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I'm still surprised at how two-prong came from being utter garbage to God tier so fast.
Looks like.. two prongs do make a right.
Well actually two two-prong but case still stands
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Well adding 50% damage is kiiinda a gigantic buff :V
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(http://i.imgur.com/suXASUK.png)
:colonveeplusalpha:
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I'm... just going to hope pdx got the rates wrong if that's the simulator.
If not, we can fire lots of special beam cannons at people???
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I'm... just going to hope pdx got the rates wrong if that's the simulator.
If not, we can fire lots of special beam cannons at people???
PDX is never accurate on value of being a simulator. They've no idea how the real thing works.
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It's accurate if my experiences with batman/hello kitty/evangelion are any indication.
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Nah if it was accurate for hello kitty I would have had four Valkitties for as many stones as I poured into that damn thing
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In other news - Xuanxang seems doable for my piecemeal unevolved kirin team, but I either need better luck with orbs or better subs.
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gungho keeps the algorithms for the REMs secret
i'm not trusting that shit
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gungho keeps the algorithms for the REMs secret
i'm not trusting that shit
all i can say is I think I may have a SLIGHT clue how it works, but not sure
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The guy who runs PADX has access to a developer account (read: unlimited magic stones). While his algorithms for REM are perhaps not exact, they are likely as close as the general public can get.
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guys its all luck anyways so what does it even matter
either you get lucky or you dont
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guys its all luck anyways so what does it even matter
either you get lucky or you dont
50% probability of getting a good roll!
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yeah you wish :V
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That picture makes me glad I quit the moment I got Goku on the 5th roll.
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I got a Keeper Of Gold and an Ancient Blue Sacred Mask out of the pal machine earlier. Gungho, please make something that I want that evolves with these so they won't be a waste of space please.
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I did an REM pull today on a whim because there really isn't anything I want anymore. Got a flare drall. I love how even gold eggs can have junk pulls too :v
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I got a Keeper Of Gold and an Ancient Blue Sacred Mask out of the pal machine earlier. Gungho, please make something that I want that evolves with these so they won't be a waste of space please.
Gold keeper is one of the best things you can grab out of pal event right next to the twinlits.
Unlike the twinlits, he can also be oddly useful later with his massive HP and void dark active.(when you get more team cost)
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Gold keeper is one of the best things you can grab out of pal event right next to the twinlits.
Unlike the twinlits, he can also be oddly useful later with his massive HP and void dark active.(when you get more team cost)
I've been running a lot of team challenge dungeons today and one of my friends has a Gold Keeper as their leader. It keeps making its way onto my teams as long as I don't have to care about point cost, and it pulls a lot of weight. I haven't tried using it to farm King Of The Underworld for experience yet, but I assume it works well for that.
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Yeah that... works. It effectively is better than using ecchi since you get... 6 more turns? Plus he's elementally strong against Hades.
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Haku's survey dungeon's coming up again for a week.
HAKU ULT'S PROBABLY GOING TO COME UP SOON AND YET I STILL DON'T HAVE A DEVILIT
at least I can get her skillups though and hanzo needs a few more to get maxed soooo okay
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I saw "Watery Temptress" and got excited thinking that there was a Siren dungeon along the lines of Scarlet Snake Princess. I don't know why people would vote that in given that it's quite a bit easier and less necessary to skillmax Mermaid, but I was still disappointed to see that wasn't the case. Well, gonna run Mermaid's Feast all day I guess.
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I saw "Watery Temptress" and got excited thinking that there was a Siren dungeon along the lines of Scarlet Snake Princess. I don't know why people would vote that in given that it's quite a bit easier and less necessary to skillmax Mermaid, but I was still disappointed to see that wasn't the case. Well, gonna run Mermaid's Feast all day I guess.
Haku's ult's going to come up soon and that's probably why they decided to put this up. Probably.
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bit easier and less necessary to skillmax Mermaid
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maxing out heartmakers is vital for their usefulness what are you talking about
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maxing out heartmakers is vital for their usefulness what are you talking about
That's me not owning one and not having played any endgame stuff, pay no mind. Why is that? Is it just that they make clearing the screen of unwanted colors easier, or is it to go with skillmaxes Heartbreakers? I figured they would only be really useful against bosses for burst damage, but again, haven't ever used one.
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That's me not owning one and not having played any endgame stuff, pay no mind. Why is that? Is it just that they make clearing the screen of unwanted colors easier, or is it to go with skillmaxes Heartbreakers? I figured they would only be really useful against bosses for burst damage, but again, haven't ever used one.
When you're low on both health and hearts, heartmakers can bail you out. When maxed skilled they come up more than twice as often as they do at skill lvl 1.
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One example i can think of off the top of my head would definitely be Hera descended.
Assuming early game builds (Resist/Godin team), it's particularly nerve-wracking to not have enough heart orbs to get back to full hp during the bosses so you use a heartmaker to get you some orbs so you don't die. If you don't have a heartmaker up and that happens again you're technically screwed. Having a 5 turn heartmaker counter is a lot easier than having an 11 turn heartmaker counter.
To give you an idea on how good Siren is, I maxed her out when I was like level 96 and I am still using it till today.
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Yeah, I think my years of Magic and other tabletop gaming has left me with an unhealthy "HP doesn't matter even a little as long as you're not dead" reflex. Planning to use heartmakers to actually heal yourself didn't even occur to me.
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Unfortunately since there are multiple enemies in this game, playing like suicide black to kill off one thing and leaving you with no resources for a consecutive opponent doesn't work.
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Huh, didn't know Pirates were in the Pal machine. Got a Black Pirate from it just now. I don't own the god that it skills up so it's probably about worthless to me, but still.
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So hard to get a Siren.
I've been doing Diva in Ice Prison for hours now. It's for farming Pengdras to lvl up my starter. It's good to do this dungeon right now since it's 1.5x drops. Sadly still no Siren. I've also did Mermaid's Feast dozens of times, and still zippo.
Anyways, it's already been a month since I played. And I got free Magic Stones. Good thing there's a monthly bonus if I'm gonna play this for free.
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So hard to get a Siren.
I've been doing Diva in Ice Prison for hours now. It's for farming Pengdras to lvl up my starter. It's good to do this dungeon right now since it's 1.5x drops. Sadly still no Siren. I've also did Mermaid's Feast dozens of times, and still zippo.
That Siren only ever drops coins for whatever reason; you'll have to farm one of the normal dungeons if you want one.
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That Siren only ever drops coins for whatever reason; you'll have to farm one of the normal dungeons if you want one.
You've got to be kidding me. D:
I don't really want to waste sta. on a normal dungeon that wouldn't give me any compensation otherwise.
SAD.
I guess I'd rather just bet my luck on PEM or REM.
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Sea Cave Mercury > Voice of the Siren. Run it whenever it has the 1.5x drop rate, which should be Monday and Thursday.
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Unfortunately since there are multiple enemies in this game, playing like suicide black to kill off one thing and leaving you with no resources for a consecutive opponent doesn't work.
It's not just Suicide Black "life as a resource" stuff, the general rule of thumb in most games is that if you're dedicating a resource to healing you're usually going to lose because you could be using that resource to win faster so the health doesn't matter. Incidental healing is usually very good (Lifelink is great in Magic) and I suppose most healing in PAD is incidental since you should be getting damage on the same turn. Still, it feels weird to me to have something on my team deficated to healing. Of course in practice I know it's more versatile than that (and I should talk, I have an Angel on there too), but that's still my initial reaction.
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En/Cool: My advice is to run the highest dungeon you can take that has a lone Siren in it (Not combo monmusu ones like Banquet of Temptation as you might get the other, unless you need them too.) I've found that the mons you usually get along the way aren't that bad for EXP (and quite a few plus eggs sometimes), and normal dungeons usually possess some rare material encounter (Voice of the Siren drops indigo demon masks and dragon flowers, etc), so you could even farm the ones that may spawn materials you need, since it'll be a while.
Another odd thing I've found is that the monmusu dungeons of a set seem to give the lowest EXP/sta, but this isn't even too bad for the later sets as I've gotten maybe 70% of my total ranks so far just trying to find them. REM and PEM are such crapshoots since you really want your 5 stones to become a god or something, and the rates in PEM seem to be awful.
Also Siren is actually the easiest monmusu to skill up, as you'll find Marine Goblins later in unhealthy amounts in places like Ocean of Heaven. You could even skill her up without a +skillup event going on because of this.
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(http://i.imgur.com/WfzAOtl.png)
finally the Hera dream has been realized :V
well almost cause I'm 10 team cost off being able to use dairy queen hera as well
apparently even 280 team cost isnt enough :derp:
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Also Siren is actually the easiest monmusu to skill up, as you'll find Marine Goblins later in unhealthy amounts in places like Ocean of Heaven. You could even skill her up without a +skillup event going on because of this.
That and some of the heartbreakers like Gigas and Vamp along with their Valkyrie counterparts are really easy to skillup.
Basically those that don't need Poring Tower are the easiest to skillup because their skillup fodder's easy to get.
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I'm up to 17 Mermaid's Feasts today, and if I'm counting right I should have another 32 potential runs before I go to bed tonight. A couple days of that should get me a Mermaid. I've decided to go for Mermaid's Feast over the other options partly because it allows me to cram in more tries, although I haven't done the math as to whether that's actually productive given that a better dungeon would let me level up faster and potentially restore my stamina more often. Partly it's also that the timing of it aligns with when I tend to take my breaks at work in such a way that I can make runs during those, although the same should be true if I time my runs correctly starting from when I wake up.
Game's asking me to do math. I'm bad at math. But hopefully one drops relatively soon so I don't have to care about it any more. With Mermaid I'll have all of the healer girls that matter to me (which is to say, not the green one).
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so at least right now this survey dungeon gave me more purple chasers now than last time it came up i'm so happy.
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Rank 110 gotten, which means that all I need to uvo Ecchi is... A Mystic Mask.
And of course, OoH refuses to give me one ):
So it's either OoH stops being annoying or Wednesday Dungeon for me. Until then, I guess I should just start investing in my Horus team, for whatever that's gonna be worth. Not like my monored is getting much better than what it already is.
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When you're low on both health and hearts, heartmakers can bail you out. When maxed skilled they come up more than twice as often as they do at skill lvl 1.
If only they increased max hp as well so that I don't get one-shot before I can do any healing. :V
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that's what leveling and +eggs are for :V
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Hanzo is already evolved, and I may have shoved Blue valk to level 67. Biases? What biases. I can't hear you.
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Ahahahaha, this is amazing. I'm running through trying out the Team Challenge for the fight with Venus in the Tower to the Sky, and I have a rather amazing team set up. This is gonna be hilarious when I get to her...
RSonia leader, 3 Lu Bus, 2 F/D Shivas.
5 Fire row enhances, 4 Dark row enhances, 7 Skill Boosts, and over 17000 HP, not to mention what my Atk stats must look like...
This can't possibly end poorly for anything, nooo.
Oh right, speaking of Sonia, I fed her more and she's Lv. 73 now, which is pretty cool.
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Rank 110 gotten, which means that all I need to uvo Ecchi is... A Mystic Mask.
And of course, OoH refuses to give me one ):
So it's either OoH stops being annoying or Wednesday Dungeon for me. Until then, I guess I should just start investing in my Horus team, for whatever that's gonna be worth. Not like my monored is getting much better than what it already is.
OoH should put you in a rankup loop or very close to it until like rank 140~150, at least that's how it felt for me. So that's probably the best thing to do since you're bound to get a mask during one of those runs. Or five.
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After 23 Mermaid's Feasts and ten Voice Of The Sirens I got a Mermaid to drop just as I ran out of stamina. Wooo...
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After 23 Mermaid's Feasts and ten Voice Of The Sirens I got a Mermaid to drop just as I ran out of stamina. Wooo...
:D
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better get that max skilled right now
GOBLINS ARE WAITING
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After 23 Mermaid's Feasts and ten Voice Of The Sirens I got a Mermaid to drop just as I ran out of stamina. Wooo...
The fact that you got one in less than 100 runs is pretty amazing. Perseverance is a powerful thing!
enjoy your new waifu
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About the same probability as getting a blue Valkyrie, I'd say.
why won't + attack eggs drop
I literally could not care less about recovery eggs on TAMADRApurin.
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The best part is (okay, that's a total lie, the best part is no more grinding for now) that I have just enough points left to evolve Mermaid and Naga and replace Lilith with King Shynee.
better get that max skilled right now
GOBLINS ARE WAITING
She's going to eat goblins until she doesn't want to eat any more goblins. I had a bunch left over from running Voice Of The Siren and no skill ups from any of those, but there will be many more.
The fact that you got one in less than 100 runs is pretty amazing. Perseverance is a powerful thing!
enjoy your new waifu
About the same probability as getting a blue Valkyrie, I'd say.
why won't + attack eggs drop
I literally could not care less about recovery eggs on TAMADRApurin.
Don't forget the second Valkyrie in the immediately following egg, or the Naga on my second ever run of Flame Snake Woman. Or getting Cupid and Lilith from the Pal machine in a very timely fashion. Guess I'm feeling pretty lucky.
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Don't forget the second Valkyrie in the immediately following egg, or the Naga on my second ever run of Flame Snake Woman. Or getting Cupid and Lilith from the Pal machine in a very timely fashion. Guess I'm feeling pretty lucky.
Oh, so you already have 4/5 this early? I think you're pretty much set.
You're totally still missing the best one of the five, though
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Oh, so you already have 4/5 this early? I think you're pretty much set.
You're totally still missing the best one of the five, though
Yeah, I'm feeling pretty set. Probably just going to start hoarding all my stones in case Evangelion comes back, and all my pal points for... evo materials I guess.
Also, apparently my roommate accidentally deleted his game and doesn't have his secret code. What're the odds/methods of recovering any data?
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Gotta hoard all my stones for avalon drakes.
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Also, apparently my roommate accidentally deleted his game and doesn't have his secret code. What're the odds/methods of recovering any data?
Probably pretty good if he spent money.
Otherwise? He's effed.
Gotta hoard all my stones for avalon drakes.
Are we getting the PADZ REM or something?
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Are we getting the PADZ REM or something?
One day.
Maybe the same day we get those reduced golem chances. I'm going to guess something of a 12 month lag from JP and say in the next 4 month.
There's also the dual friend leader update that needs to come too.
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I honestly have no idea why we haven't gotten the PADZ or PAD BT REMs/dungeons yet. It's not like there's licensing issues or anything. Maybe they're waiting for a potential US release?
Edit: Anyway, yeah, I would probably kill someone for an Avalon Drake. It is just too good.
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(http://i.imgur.com/fgLkQHE.png)
Guess who dropped a Mystic Mask on his first run of OoH today.
Well, I guess that's pretty much a wrap on my monored, the only thing left is uvo'ing my Meteor Volcano Dragon, I already have the materials (Thank god PEM events gave me trifruits) but team cost is gonna be a bitch since his cost goes from 15 to a whopping 35 ._.
Regardless, I'm gonna invest in my Horus team right now, first stop is uvo'ing Cu Chu so I have some dark on my team.
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I honestly have no idea why we haven't gotten the PADZ or PAD BT REMs/dungeons yet. It's not like there's licensing issues or anything. Maybe they're waiting for a potential US release?
Edit: Anyway, yeah, I would probably kill someone for an Avalon Drake. It is just too good.
Straight up. They've stated plans to release in America, so...that's probably it. BT the same, since I'm pretty sure thats what they were testing at AX.
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Finally got a rainbow keeper today (after seven attempts...) and managed to ult evo Suzaku!
R/G because balanced teams all the way. Except... I have no R/G Suzaku friends bar Matsy.
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Finally got a rainbow keeper today (after seven attempts...) and managed to ult evo Suzaku!
R/G because balanced teams all the way. Except... I have no R/G Suzaku friends bar Matsy.
Go bug Chirei.
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If you want to use mine, send me a PM here on the forum and I'll put her up. I'm on vacation right now so I'm not playing as much to see messages.
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I just accepted Chirei's friend request, haha. My Balanced Suzaku team still needs a lot of levels so it's something I'll keep in my pocket for now. Of course, being able to practice with the team is a big deal...
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Finally got a rainbow keeper today (after seven attempts...) and managed to ult evo Suzaku!
R/G because balanced teams all the way. Except... I have no R/G Suzaku friends bar Matsy.
Go bug Chirei.
...Wow, that is scary.
I expanded some friend space on a whim just to accomodate more MotK people but I did not know you had a Leilan. Extremely big coincidence that I threw you an add when I did.
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I don't mention my Leilan too much because I'm usually too busy complaining about TAMADRApurin still not having enough HP or that I have two Ronias and two Gabriels to feed.
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Well, I usually try to put her up a lot, so feel free to use whenever. I also have uvo Bastet for whatever reason if you want to play combo modo instead.
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I recently got an old iPhone from family and finally ended up giving this game a try. On my 2nd run through the tutorial I got a Level 31 Fuma Kotaro (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=561). Is he any good or should I go through again? I know next to nothing about this game.
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I recently got an old iPhone from family and finally ended up giving this game a try. On my 2nd run through the tutorial I got a Level 31 Fuma Kotaro (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=561). Is he any good or should I go through again? I know next to nothing about this game.
He's a good sub but not a good starter, unfortunately.
Have we linked the padherder guide into the OP yet? We really should.
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I think I found it via a simple Google search. (http://guide.padherder.com/New_Player_Guide)
On what was going to be my final attempt for the night, I actually managed to roll a god: Idunn&Idunna. According to the tier list (http://guide.padherder.com/Reroll_Tier_List) they're pretty good, but their guide says mono-blue is tricky to run. Should I still go for it, or should I wait to start this game until another time?
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Rolling a Norse god these days is asking to be lucky in a future REM roll so that you have a capable end-game team lead. I&I will do well for a while, but will quickly be reduced to sub status mostly in Umi&Yami and Andromeda teams. With her healer ultimate evolution, she could become a good tier leader again but that team requires heavy REM investment.
However by that time you probably will have gone through another godfest, whether it be Chinese, Heroes, Egyptian or gotten a Red Sonia and be set for that. So I&I are a pretty good start, though I personally am frustrated with the fact their Mystic Knight is the only non-farmable one.
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Sorry, I'm a little confused. If I'm reading correctly, I&I is a good starting god but falls off as the game gets harder. However, by the time I get to end-game content I will likely experience a godfest and have a shot at a better god and thus would rebuild a team around the new god instead. Correct? If so, is it worth the trouble of building a 2nd team or would I be better off just putting the game aside?
Thank you by the way.
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She is a good starting god, not so hot as end-game approaches, but an -incredible- component of mono-blue teams with them row enhances.
Of course, it's almost always better to start with a leader and hope the subs fall in from there.
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I&I is incredibly useful and a good pull, keep her. She'll last you for a good while.
You might not end up using her to the end but that's how the cookie crumbles really.
She'll definitely get you through most of the game. Perhaps more if you somehow pull a hatsume before the carnival is over :v
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Time to waste those stamina guages before we go on a day off without PaD.
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Time to waste those stamina guages before we go on a day off without PaD.
That's only if you're playing on kindle fire, thankfully.
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I hope. I really need some dragon plants <_<
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That's only if you're playing on kindle fire, thankfully.
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I hope. I really need some dragon plants <_<
Oh you're right. Kindle. :^V
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Eu client has apparently gotten Shinra bansho translated, along with Capybara and ofcourse New RO.
sooo either EU bias or we're possibly getting the same.
Instead of DBZ.
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For those who need row leaders, there's always Beyzul and Wangen. Using those guys is a thing, though I'm not the biggest fan of them.
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Eu client has apparently gotten Shinra bansho translated, along with Capybara and ofcourse New RO.
sooo either EU bias or we're possibly getting the same.
Instead of DBZ.
Oh god shiva skillups yes please
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Eu client has apparently gotten Shinra bansho translated, along with Capybara and ofcourse New RO.
sooo either EU bias or we're possibly getting the same.
Instead of DBZ.
EU's also getting a fuckload of updates a day before us despite the NA server being around way longer
because GungHo NA are sluggish fools
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*Fields of Battle*
[Duration]: 7/11 (Fri), 12:00 AM - 7/20 (Sun), 11:59 PM (PDT)
The Drum of War has sounded. You have trained hard, but are you prepared? Many will fall, but in their wake a truly memorable tale will be told. We march onward… onto Fields of Battle.
■① Daily Log-in Bonuses
7/11 - 7/20 - 1 free Magic Stone daily
*Bonuses will be distributed as late as 3:59 AM (PDT) the following day.
■ ② Unique Multi-Day Dungeons
We’ve included a mix of old and new dungeons in this event. With training suitable for both the recruit and the veteran, these dungeons are sure to help you along your journey.
7/14 - 7/16 - Breakers!
7/17 - 7/18 - ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
7/19 - 7/20 - Tower of Jewels
■③ Special Event Dungeon Schedule:
7/11 - Zeus Descended!
7/12 - Izanami Descended!
7/13 - Hera-Beorc Descended!
7/14 - Hera-Ur Descended!
7/15 - Zeus-Dios Descended!
7/16 - Takeminakata Descended!
7/17 - The Goddess Descended!
7/18 - Hera-Sowilo Descended!
7/19 - Hera-Is Descended!
7/20 - Heracles Descended!
■④ Awesome Daily Bonuses
Pal Egg Event:
7/11 - 7/15 - Jewel/Metal King Dragons
7/16 - 7/20 - Rare Evo Materials
1.5x chance for 'GREAT!' or 'SUPER!!' EXP Gain
2x King appearance rates for the Metal and Jewel Dragons
2x Skill Up rate
2x Drops for the Daily Special Dungeons
1.5x Coins for the Weekend Dungeon
*Events subject to change without notice or compensation - see event policy here http://tinyurl.com/cj7zu4t
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I was referring to this http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=95
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aw shit are we getting chinese girl invades this event
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I think I've gotten to the point where I have to be very careful picking friends for new dungeons. Without 9x attack I get wrecked by every boss. Also reeeeally wanting that King Shynee. Think there's a reasonable chance I can get a King Gold from that special dungeon tonight?
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I think I've gotten to the point where I have to be very careful picking friends for new dungeons. Without 9x attack I get wrecked by every boss. Also reeeeally wanting that King Shynee. Think there's a reasonable chance I can get a King Gold from that special dungeon tonight?
You can use my KST Metatron. I log in frequently enough that you should be able to use it thrice per day, probably even more.
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EU's also getting a fuckload of updates a day before us despite the NA server being around way longer
because GungHo NA are sluggish fools
Yes, which is how we know this. We're assuming we SHOULD be getting the same unless they'll screw us. :v
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Woo, got a King Gold Dragon on my fifth run of Gold/Metal Dungeon. Also got five or six Baby Tamadras and a crapton of gold and experience. King Shynee will be ready, as soon as I got ahold of a Topalit. :derp:
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... I keep thinking about D/D Haku except my devil type subs are pretty limited to Lewdlith, Gryps Rider finn, Vampy, King Baddie... still no fire on that team.
If I had an ult Hadar that would be a row enhance, a two prong attack, fire, and an orb enhance but ahahahahaha mechdragons.
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... I keep thinking about D/D Haku except my devil type subs are pretty limited to Lewdlith, Gryps Rider finn, Vampy, King Baddie... still no fire on that team.
If I had an ult Hadar that would be a row enhance, a two prong attack, fire, and an orb enhance but ahahahahaha mechdragons.
Give Hera-Ur a try next time she rolls around?
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Give Hera-Ur a try next time she rolls around?
wow Hera-Ur is coming up pretty soon
she actually doesn't have that much HP, I could easily OH her on Mythical with TAMADRApurin
except I have no means of getting through Ifrit.
TENTH ANGEL GOGOGO
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... I keep thinking about D/D Haku except my devil type subs are pretty limited to Lewdlith, Gryps Rider finn, Vampy, King Baddie... still no fire on that team.
If I had an ult Hadar that would be a row enhance, a two prong attack, fire, and an orb enhance but ahahahahaha mechdragons.
There's always Echidna.
I'm thinking I might make my line-up something like:
D/D Haku
Duke
DA Luci
Dumpty
Echidna
D/D Haku
DA Luci can be replaced by Hadar or Cerberus.
Haku is also getting a spot in Satan. Now if only skilling her up didn't take so long.
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Is the drop rate for Lil' Green Dragon at Demeter Forest good or should I just bet my luck on PEM?
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i know the maintenance just finished but can someone hook me up to the latest .apk for pad?
EDIT: never mind @SA people are so goddamn helpful i love them
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(http://i.imgur.com/TICRrlV.jpg)
Thoth
Active: Increase light and dark damage by 1.5x for 1 turn
LS: Greatly extends time to move Orb by 5 second
(http://i.imgur.com/GEHMdkh.jpg)
Sopdet
Active: Change water to heal orbs and mass attack for 1 turn
LS: Match 2 of Light/Dark/Heal for 3x ATK or match all three for 3.5x ATK
Thoth seems pointless. Sopdet is pretty great.
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Thursdays are worst day
Blow 60 stam on thursday dungeon for 2 effing plants
:colonveeplusalpha:
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new update
still no top droidragon awakenings why
hmm the chinese girl descend invade mechanic could be fun
gives me a reason to run descends again cause I've already beat them all :V
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I'm sure it'll screw up my ability to farm hera for skillups somehow.
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They only show up in mythicals so dont worry :V
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Could you imagine if they showed up in Legend dungeons too?
"Okay, just need to stall on Shabo Alma for Echidna and I should be go--oh hi Haku why did you kill me"
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Could you imagine if they showed up in Legend dungeons too?
"Okay, just need to stall on Shabo Alma for Echidna and I should be go--oh hi Haku why did you kill me"
They only show up in mythicals so dont worry :V
A later patch has them show up in Legendary descending dungeons too.
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And their materials start showing up in the pal machine eventually too.
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oh shit my guys just got a stat boost with the stat awakenings buffs :3
just 140 HP off 20k hp now
also my friend list essentially just doubled haha this is great :V
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I still think it's weird that that Kirin has Indras skill.
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oh wait no never mind choosing either one of a person's team leaders will use them both up ::)
another undocumented change: when Isis matches colors, the orbs that light up on her icon now get a huge outline :v
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A later patch has them show up in Legendary descending dungeons too.
>go to try a legend descend for the first time
"MEIMEI NO, MY BODY WAS NOT READY!!!!!"
darksoulsyoudied.jpg
This will happen, I feel the defeat from the future
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Well they only show up during events so it'll just be surprise no stall every second time your descend cones around
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Okay, so now that I got King Shynee and all my healgirls are evolved my team works. Unfortunately it works too well. How I stall? I keep accidentally vaporizing every enemy every turn. At most I can eat up two turns before a cascade wipes the screen. Is there a technique to this?
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Depends on the dungeons you're playing
If you're clearing normals, stall on floors with masks/dublits and jewel dragons. As long as you have over 9999 hp you can pretty much stall indefinitely if you're careful. Also dont burst down floors where no one has 1 turn left to attack.
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Stalling with unconditional LS is harder than with conditional. It mainly becomes matching off colours then.
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Okay, so now that I got King Shynee and all my healgirls are evolved my team works. Unfortunately it works too well. How I stall? I keep accidentally vaporizing every enemy every turn. At most I can eat up two turns before a cascade wipes the screen. Is there a technique to this?
Ah. That's the point you know you have a solid team going.
There are many ways to deal with this depending on team, but the first and foremost way is the friend leader you choose. For example, I love picking r/l leilan friends since they can't get multiplier off matching hearts, so I can switch between 3.5x and 12.25x power at will. Another alternative is choosing a Bastet or other combo-reliant leader, and make medium-length combos on purpose to selectively destroy what I want. Requires practice, but this worked for me in Hera and Two Heroes.
By the way, I shot you a friend request a while back. I have Bastet up as an alt lead, so you could practice with her if you like. (She is Healer subtype)
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God damn, I want a Haku now. :|
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i still want bodin
but its never gonna happen
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Depends on the dungeons you're playing
If you're clearing normals, stall on floors with masks/dublits and jewel dragons. As long as you have over 9999 hp you can pretty much stall indefinitely if you're careful. Also dont burst down floors where no one has 1 turn left to attack.
I certainly don't have 9999 HP, usually. Although jewel dragons are very helpful when they do pop up.
Stalling with unconditional LS is harder than with conditional. It mainly becomes matching off colours then.
What's LS?
Ah. That's the point you know you have a solid team going.
There are many ways to deal with this depending on team, but the first and foremost way is the friend leader you choose. For example, I love picking r/l leilan friends since they can't get multiplier off matching hearts, so I can switch between 3.5x and 12.25x power at will. Another alternative is choosing a Bastet or other combo-reliant leader, and make medium-length combos on purpose to selectively destroy what I want. Requires practice, but this worked for me in Hera and Two Heroes.
By the way, I shot you a friend request a while back. I have Bastet up as an alt lead, so you could practice with her if you like. (She is Healer subtype)
I think I accepted your request, or if I didn't I'll go back through later and re-add people from the front page.
God damn, I want a Haku now. :|
i still want bodin
but its never gonna happen
And I want a team with Misato and Bane on it, but... Yeah. Offer still stands, Gungho. Bring back Eva and you can have $20.
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What's LS?
Leader Skill. For Valk it's 3x damage all the time and you can't turn it off, whereas you can sort of control light Metatron (3.5x damage, but only when over 50% HP).
Also I am sad, if you pick one leader from a friend they remove both from the list. :(
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I guess it's a good thing I need so many Dragon Plants or this whole "Absolutely no Dragon Fruits ever" thing on Thursday dungeon would be even more frustrating. :wat: In my last ~6 runs nothing at all has dropped in the last room, much less the thing I actually want and need like five of.
Leader Skill. For Valk it's 3x damage all the time and you can't turn it off, whereas you can sort of control light Metatron (3.5x damage, but only when over 50% HP).
Also I am sad, if you pick one leader from a friend they remove both from the list. :(
Oh, fair enough. Should have been able to puzzle that one out I guess.
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sent an invite, i have my I&I up so should help with some hp problems.
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sent an invite, i have my I&I up so should help with some hp problems.
Yeah, I somehow have no I&I friends. I should hunt some of those down. Them and Hatsume seem pretty handy for extra insurance against dungeons I can blast through no problem damage-wise, but where I randomly die if anything touches me. That seems to be most of them now, so I need more of both of them.
Like three or four of my "random guy I got matched up with" friends have inexplicably and simultaneously shifted their leaders away from useful things (which is to say, various Valkyries) to Mid Water Ninja for some reason. It's really clogging up my friends list and causing me to have to pick subpar helpers and lose runs as a result. They can go, and more good stuff can replace them. I could use a couple more Green Odins too, since they pair well with my huge recovery and interest in bursting down bosses.
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I guess it's a good thing I need so many Dragon Plants or this whole "Absolutely no Dragon Fruits ever" thing on Thursday dungeon would be even more frustrating. :wat: In my last ~6 runs nothing at all has dropped in the last room, much less the thing I actually want and need like five of.
Yo trade me your luck, I have run dplants 6 times today and gotten 5 fruits, and 10 pengdra are sitting in my box waiting for 7 more plants ;;
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I keep getting just enough plants to clear out my immediate pengdra supplies, and then switch over to wasting all my stamina on trying and failing to get red dragon fruits
Seriously I have yet to get even a single one
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Like three or four of my "random guy I got matched up with" friends have inexplicably and simultaneously shifted their leaders away from useful things (which is to say, various Valkyries) to Mid Water Ninja for some reason. It's really clogging up my friends list and causing me to have to pick subpar helpers and lose runs as a result. They can go, and more good stuff can replace them. I could use a couple more Green Odins too, since they pair well with my huge recovery and interest in bursting down bosses.
im usually switching between lucifer adkz and i&i so expect her not to be always up
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I have 17 dragon plants sitting in my inventory waiting for jewel dragons, so. >_> Give me all your dragon fruits.
The nice thing about this update is that now I can set my DQXQ as Team 1 without ever having to use her.
Also, I usually deal with HP problems by not ever letting the boss hit me. :V Praise Ecchi's delay.
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I keep getting just enough plants to clear out my immediate pengdra supplies, and then switch over to wasting all my stamina on trying and failing to get red dragon fruits
Seriously I have yet to get even a single one
trying to skill up ronia huh
good fucking luck
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So, I'm thinking of trying Goddess Descended (on Legend, of course), how hard, exactly, is it?
Also, is there any way for me to accurately calculate how much damage I'll deal on a single burst? I wanna know if I have enough to burst her 2,7m HP down (Which I probably don't, but I have been wrong before.)
Also, yeah, with the awakening changes I have passed the 14k HP mark :V
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Also, is there any way for me to accurately calculate how much damage I'll deal on a single burst?
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/calculator1.asp
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trying to skill up ronia huh
good fucking luck
I know, right ;_;
At least I have fruits for other things, like skilling up the green/blue sonias I'll never get.
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http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/calculator1.asp
Oh, that's a thing?
Thanks.
Well, if the math's correct that means I can deal up to 950k-ish damage on a single, reliable burst. Which is... not nearly enough.
Okay so bursting her down isn't an option, apparently, chipping her out probably won't work either...
Guess I'm not doing Valkyrie Descended until my Horus team is alive, then :colonveeplusalpha:
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im usually switching between lucifer adkz and i&i so expect her not to be always up
Sounds good. I don't mind letting people take up friend slots even if they're often going to be using stuff I don't want if I know they'll probably go back to what I do want at least occasionally. It's the randos who seemingly throw away their Valkyries forever for Mid Water Ninja meta that cause problems. And the new friend list revisions will make that almost a non-issue... Except for the weird rank requirement.
Also, I usually deal with HP problems by not ever letting the boss hit me. :V Praise Ecchi's delay.
That's the plan ideally. But if I fuck up because I'm not paying attention, or hit the boss and realize that she's still one turn from active, I just insta-lose. Some insurance is nice sometimes. Really need to skill her up, really don't want to go through the trouble of skilling her up. I guess just a few ranks would do a lot of good, since there's only so fast it's actually possible to beat dungeons.
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Is it worth it to use stones to increase friend limit?
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Is it worth it to use stones to increase friend limit?
Depends. Do you find yourself running out of friends to run with a lot or anything, or who have the leader(s) you want up?
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Hey Pandorable users guess what
Her skill up fodder won the next survey dungeon vote. (As did Fuma Kotaro! But nobody cares about light...)
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Is it worth it to use stones to increase friend limit?
I've never done it
Although I selectively cull my friends list until it only contains either people who are from MotK or people who have Isis :derp:
Also if you don't play for like several days then you're also out, since we can't use each other anyways
Hey Pandorable users guess what
Her skill up fodder won the next survey dungeon vote. (As did Fuma Kotaro! But nobody cares about light...)
It's always the Dark ones
I'm glad they're adding more dark absorb to descends though BV
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Hey Pandorable users guess what
Her skill up fodder won the next survey dungeon vote. (As did Fuma Kotaro! But nobody cares about light...)
Unsurprising. Most of norse have other options (rip loki), and the pirates were way more bullshit than pups.
And between chaser and heroes, no one gives enough shits about the other tri-color chinese.
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Gonna get my pandora max skilled, since I'm sure she'll be worth using for me at some point <_<
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Unsurprising. Most of norse have other options (rip loki), and the pirates were way more bullshit than pups.
And between chaser and heroes, no one gives enough shits about the other tri-color chinese.
Surprisingly, for a while, Green chaser was in 3rd place.
Btw, I'm not sure what to use for team 1? I'm thinking between Satan and Kirin.
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I think keeping Satan up on uneventful "farming" days would be cool, and use keep Kirin up for descends.
As for myself, I'm gonna take a break from TAMADRApurin. He'll be in my team one slot, don't get me wrong, but I'm gonna run back with Haku for a long time.
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Gonna get my pandora max skilled, since I'm sure she'll be worth using for me at some point <_<
Like I said, I got hanzo.
I'm goin' hard this survey.
Surprisingly, for a while, Green chaser was in 3rd place.
Btw, I'm not sure what to use for team 1? I'm thinking between Satan and Kirin.
Genbu apparently has gained a lot of favor, surprisingly. Now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense. Balanced works well for her and with a Cu Chu she has all colors covered to do what she wishes with.
Devil is just weird still.
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Like I said, I got hanzo.
I'm goin' hard this survey.
Genbu apparently has gained a lot of favor, surprisingly. Now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense. Balanced works well for her and with a Cu Chu she has all colors covered to do what she wishes with.
Devil is just weird still.
She also plays nicely with row and combo teams as a sub, so there's that too. There's always the next dungeon. I wish we got a water mystic knight dungeon though.
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So, we're going straight to 'Chinese Girls in Legends AND Mythicals' mode. Plan accordingly.
EDIT:: FINALLY got my Droidragon ult'd, so I have my defense-negator. Cost like 120 stamina for that last Fruit though...
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So
Apparently we've had 3x special god rates for a long ass time now.
And no one ever told us, apparently.
Except EuroPad.
Gungho NA confirmed for literally the biggest shitheels can I move to europe
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So
Apparently we've had 3x special god rates for a long ass time now.
And no one ever told us, apparently.
Except EuroPad.
Gungho NA confirmed for literally the biggest shitheels can I move to europe
you could probably VPN to an EU country's play store :V
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you could probably VPN to an EU country's play store :V
i could but I don't think I'd be able to take my account and all my shinies with me ;v
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Why are people setting their 90% main lead as team 1 still. That defeats the purpose of this friend update.
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I have haku and kst metatron on the two team things
also level 120
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3:30 am funnies
the chinese girl skill bind is in japanese still
edit: FATTEST GOD DAMN DRAGON (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/487500157789810689)
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so uhh
if I feed my TAMADRApurin to my Byakko she'd be +296
I mean
TAMADRApurin is stronk yeah, but I'd have a skill maxed, level maxed, awoken maxed, 99.9% +'d Haku.
Why am I even thinking about feeding TAMADRApurin away. :ohdear:
Byakko is so good, though...
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so uhh
if I feed my TAMADRApurin to my Byakko she'd be +296
I mean
TAMADRApurin is stronk yeah, but I'd have a skill maxed, level maxed, awoken maxed, 99.9% +'d Haku.
Why am I even thinking about feeding TAMADRApurin away. :ohdear:
Byakko is so good, though...
DONT DO IIIIIIITTTT
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D/D Byakko is such a good sub. Why is the dark favoritism so high.
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How does anyone play this game without Echidna? I mean, obviously the answer is "have defense better than a paper cup", but still...
so uhh
if I feed my TAMADRApurin to my Byakko she'd be +296
I mean
TAMADRApurin is stronk yeah, but I'd have a skill maxed, level maxed, awoken maxed, 99.9% +'d Haku.
Why am I even thinking about feeding TAMADRApurin away. :ohdear:
Byakko is so good, though...
BIG DOG NOOOO! Don't let anything eat Big Dog, he is my hero.
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How does anyone play this game without Echidna? I mean, obviously the answer is "have defense better than a paper cup", but still...
The alternative is to oneshot things.
A "replacement" would be use Susano etc, but that still is only as effective if you have better HP and stuff
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the almighty chicken has arisen!
(I just got F/L Horus. YES!!!)
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17 Hamas.
Not a single fucking skillup.
When are they going to fix literally the one fucking thing about this game that is ASS BACKWARDS and LITERALLY WORSE THAN EVERY MOBAGE.
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17 Hamas.
Not a single fucking skillup.
When are they going to fix literally the one fucking thing about this game that is ASS BACKWARDS and LITERALLY WORSE THAN EVERY MOBAGE.
I wonder why they don't make it a system where there's a preset amount with times you get lucky, like with the whole fusing system.
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Wow...that's quite the dragon there. It's yet another really good 1coster, too.
Wonder if it'll fuse into something. I notice ot's the first enhance material with a subtype, and God at that.
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I wonder why they don't make it a system where there's a preset amount with times you get lucky, like with the whole fusing system.
uh
what? Explain that shit, that's new.
But yeah they really need to fucking rework this shit.
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I think Hyorinryu means that after X number of fusions you start getting guaranteed skill ups. In Earthbound for instance if your random stats fell too far from the target for that level you'd get a bonus every 5 levels or so.
Also I feel dumb because after having so much trouble stalling with my LMeta team in twinlits, I realized I don't have to make matches and can just take hits so that I get under 50%...thus making stalling easier.
:derp:
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uh
what? Explain that shit, that's new.
But yeah they really need to fucking rework this shit.
Sorry, I meant how when you you feed stuff, you got a certain amount of xp, but here and there, you'd get a jackpot. I was just saying maybe they should apply that to skill-ups. I think they should do something especially with things like gravity, full boards and whatever Sandalphon does actives running around.
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Sorry, I meant how when you you feed stuff, you got a certain amount of xp, but here and there, you'd get a jackpot. I was just saying maybe they should apply that to skill-ups. I think they should do something especially with things like gravity, full boards and whatever Sandalphon does actives running around.
Yeah that would be literally so much better. Even if you had to farm insane amounts? Still garuanteed after farming.
Unsurprisingly, another game has done this.
Fucking PAD.
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Turn one invade. Alas, finally got a Zeus after healthily one shotting him.
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Oh, the Chinese Invades are in Legend-Tier as well? Including beginner descends like Hera and Heroes?
...Including Goddess Descended?
:colonveeplusalpha:
If I get invaded on any of my Valk runs I'm gonna be so fucking pissed ):
Also, are you seriously telling me that they reduced Kouryu's cost, but not Zaerog's? What is this bullshit? ._.
Anyway, I'll try and farm up to 20 stones for the next godfest since it's x3 Special God rate, plus, who doesn't love Chinese Gods? With midnight Gala, even.
I just hope I don't roll another Sun Wukong ._.
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Oh, the Chinese Invades are in Legend-Tier as well? Including beginner descends like Hera and Heroes?
...Including Goddess Descended?
:colonveeplusalpha:
If I get invaded on any of my Valk runs I'm gonna be so fucking pissed ):
Also, are you seriously telling me that they reduced Kouryu's cost, but not Zaerog's? What is this bullshit? ._.
Anyway, I'll try and farm up to 20 stones for the next godfest since it's x3 Special God rate, plus, who doesn't love Chinese Gods? With midnight Gala, even.
I just hope I don't roll another Sun Wukong ._.
actually the invade is a good thing if it invades during floor four
one chinese girl is way easier to deal with than two demons as long as you dont trigger their OHKO
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actually the invade is a good thing if it invades during floor four
one chinese girl is way easier to deal with than two demons as long as you dont trigger their OHKO
Looking at the numbers, so long as I run the usual 2/4/2 setup I can actually survive one hit of Karin's fuckoff attack.
Plus, they'll give me some good time to stall so maybe it's not that bad.
Also, with the Jewel Dragons in the PEM event, does Super Kings also apply? I'm in no real need of rare evo mats (What's with me having two of each trifruit and a Golden Keeper) but I could certainly use the experience boost, especially after this last run of Super King Rubies that gave me 2 Super Kings.
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Looking at the numbers, so long as I run the usual 2/4/2 setup I can actually survive one hit of Karin's fuckoff attack.
Plus, they'll give me some good time to stall so maybe it's not that bad.
Also, with the Jewel Dragons in the PEM event, does Super Kings also apply? I'm in no real need of rare evo mats (What's with me having two of each trifruit and a Golden Keeper) but I could certainly use the experience boost, especially after this last run of Super King Rubies that gave me 2 Super Kings.
Looks like it, I got a metal and a gold Super King earlier. At least I'm pretty sure that's where they came from. I know a got two kings and those are the only two in my box.
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Well I spent my 29 rolls on it and I got a King Ruby and a few moltdras, as well as a Vampire so... yay, I don't need to farm for a Vampire anymore!
Anyway, my Ecchi is now at level 77 which means that I'm pretty much one step away from not dumping anything more on my Monored and instead working on my Horus team.
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I HAVE A QUESTION
How strong is two-pronged attack right now? I mean is it stronger than row enhances or is row enhances still king of PaD?
Because I just got D/D Haku and forgot that she had two-pronged and shit.
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Two-Pronged attack is strong enough such that you can have match four dark orbs without proccing her leader skill and still sweep random mobs.
If you have, say, Gryps Rider Vector Finn in on the action as well, and Haku's active doesn't quite spawn 12 dark orbs, going for four prongs should easily keep up with row enhances.
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How is row enhance did? What's the principle behind it? (I know how it works rules-wise, I just don't understand how to do it consistently.) Do you have to go out of your way to set up for it the previous turn, or is it primarily used with orb changes, or can people reliably line up rows out of random orb drops? I have row debind on my Archangel now and it's never possible when I need it.
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For row enhance that's usually set up with orbchangers
For two-pronged it's mostly just being able to match random 4-matches and other orbs lying around
also thanks fanatic i was wondering why i was dealing 26k damage without leader skill per haku i was so confused
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Oh, okay. Good I guess. I thought I just sucked or something.
Two-Pronged Attack seems much easier to do. Seems like you'd be able to fire those off nearly every turn if you really wanted to.
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Oh, okay. Good I guess. I thought I just sucked or something.
Two-Pronged Attack seems much easier to do. Seems like you'd be able to fire those off nearly every turn if you really wanted to.
Thing about Two-Pronged is that it's harder to stack than rows. The two two-pronged awakenings a rider has will boost him and no one else. Satan's three rows boost him along with everyone on the the team, and they stack with row boosts provided by other cards on the team.
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There's that damage comparison chart between rows and prongs somewhere on the internet.
Also it's time to roll a Pandora and Haku with my two REM rolls.
Have to finish my Chinese pantheon.
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(http://oi57.tinypic.com/rctx10.jpg)
For clarification, my whole team that him pre-ulti was in cant have him right now because 71/70
(Hopefully this isn't that large)
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Thing about Two-Pronged is that it's harder to stack than rows. The two two-pronged awakenings a rider has will boost him and no one else. Satan's three rows boost him along with everyone on the the team, and they stack with row boosts provided by other cards on the team.
This is also not taking into the account the orbs used are more and therefore the attack itself is stronger compared to two-prong.
Two-prong is also on less dudes now, and overall less effective on many dudes than riders.
It's basically more whaley and ultimately worse.
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Here's the chart: http://i.imgur.com/eMjujNB.jpg
Do roughly the same amounts of damage with two-prong doing slightly less but using less orbs and therefore activating more often.
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Here's the chart: http://i.imgur.com/eMjujNB.jpg
Do roughly the same amounts of damage with two-prong doing slightly less but using less orbs and therefore activating more often.
That's pretty interesting. A single two-prong team holds up...surprisingly well, actually.
Hell, two-prong technically has slightly higher boost at 'ideal' on the 'easier' proc of three procs.
Rows absolutely crush them at ideal+three rows though, holy shit rofl.
Really the big problem is this is ideals- and Two-prongs biggest problem at the moment with this in mind is straight up distribution, and it's MUCH harder to fix that than with Rows.
it has potential I suppose though, looking at this. I feel row will maintain the advantage for a long time though.
Edit: Oh also that bottom infographic? That's actually a close to ideal green attacker tbh, and a really bad row team. That's not a fair comparison, but a neat showing of possible flexibility a combination team involving ninjas could hold.
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oh shit this next godfest will actually have special gods at x3 whaatttt
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apparently it has been that way for a while too
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oh shit this next godfest will actually have special gods at x3 whaatttt
i posted about this entirely a few days back suikama plz
Here's the chart: http://i.imgur.com/eMjujNB.jpg
Do roughly the same amounts of damage with two-prong doing slightly less but using less orbs and therefore activating more often.
Actually revisiting what I said- this actually completely confirms what I though when you look at it the right way.
It's just pretty misleading and makes 2-prong seem way stronger in a number of ways (Stopping at 9 row enhance is a mean trick).
Two-prong does do a lot more damage than I expected though.
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i posted about this entirely a few days back suikama plz
if this was last week then my excuse is i was in new york :derp:
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if this was last week then my excuse is i was in new york :derp:
not even like a few days ago when europe dropped this
i am disappointed. >:<
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Can I crack Neptune in Ocean Of Heaven with x27 attack? I tried using a calculator and it seems like I can, but I may have done it wrong. It going in with my normal team a fool's errand?
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x27 attack with 3 matches of three blue orbs...
Your Valkyrie will just barely OH Neptune with ~400 damage to spare.
Of course, you have Echidna and Siren to give you more time to create blue orbs.
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Is that three separate strings of orbs? How many does it need to be if they're all continuous? Regardless, I'm pretty confident I can do that. The carbuncles on the previous screen can't quite kill me, so I can set up on them for a while to try to make sure I go in with enough blue, pink, and red onscreen to get a combo that big.
How worried should I be about a Mystic Mask dropping in and wrecking my shit? Should I be bringing Lilith for insurance? That one-turn clock is pretty worrying if it spawns next to some other big stuff. Although maybe all of my auto-healing and recovery can mitigate it.
On another note, where do I get fucking Topalits? I've dumped at least 40 stamina into Dungeon Of Light today and haven't gotten one. Is Friday Dungeon really the only place to get ghosts for less than a billion stamina?
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Only run Dungeon of Light on Tuesday evenings and Friday mornings. 1/2 stamina is a big deal. :V
3 separate combos of 3 orbs, yes. There aren't any combinations of higher strings that can let your Valk OH Neptune with fewer than nine orbs, unless you have a higher number of combos. Even then, having 2x4 blue orbs would need three off-color combos to OH Neptune.
You have a Healer team you should have no concerns about 4,000 damage per turn because it's not instant killing you. :V
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Only run Dungeon of Light on Tuesday evenings and Friday mornings. 1/2 stamina is a big deal. :V
3 separate combos of 3 orbs, yes. There aren't any combinations of higher strings that can let your Valk OH Neptune with fewer than nine orbs, unless you have a higher number of combos. Even then, having 2x4 blue orbs would need three off-color combos to OH Neptune.
You have a Healer team you should have no concerns about 4,000 damage per turn because it's not instant killing you. :V
Hmm. Sounds tricky, but I might be able to do it. My stamina is up in like ten minutes, so I guess I'll find out.
4000 damage a turn is not a concern, 4000 damage on the same turn a couple of devils attack will probably kill me. Although I guess I would have to get pretty unlucky to fall into that situation without enough orbs to kill the devils first.
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Is the supposed high +egg drop on weekends for Ocean of Heaven on the last stage or the whole dungeon, and how often am I supposed to be seeing them drop?
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It's like one + every 1.5 runs or something.
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Aw shit, I got killed by the creepy furries. I had a combo lined up that should have healed me back to full but the game was like "Nope, it was all an illusion you actually just lined up three fire orbs, howsabout you die" and then I died. That's... Frustrating. Well, later maybe.
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Aw shit, I got killed by the creepy furries. I had a combo lined up that should have healed me back to full but the game was like "Nope, it was all an illusion you actually just lined up three fire orbs, howsabout you die" and then I died. That's... Frustrating. Well, later maybe.
Yeah uhh, those guys are the hardest part of the dungeon. They will oneshot *my* team, even - and more than half the time I will arrive at wave 9 to find them synced up. Use delay on them or if you have a Bastet friend, unleash spread kitties too. You absolutely do not need to save delay on Neptune - if you're taking more than three turns to beat him up, you probably need more damage.
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Yeah uhh, those guys are the hardest part of the dungeon. They will oneshot *my* team, even - and more than half the time I will arrive at wave 9 to find them synced up. Use delay on them or if you have a Bastet friend, unleash spread kitties too. You absolutely do not need to save delay on Neptune - if you're taking more than three turns to beat him up, you probably need more damage.
Oh. Neat. It's probably not worth it to Menace them, burst down one, and recharge on the other one, but I would like to have the delay going in to Neptune if possible, just to be able to have the time to set up for an ideal King Shynee turn. I'll be trying again in a few minutes assuming I have any usable friends available, so we'll see what happens. Again.
Edit: Okay, I did it. Menaced the furries and killed them with surprising difficulty, then between carefully setting up on the previous screen, heartmaking, then heartbreaking I had the screen over half full of water orbs which was enough to one-shot Neptune. If I didn't know going in that he had a gimmick I might now have noticed. No plus eggs though. Anyway, I'm confident I can do this reliably in the future.
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Edit: Okay, I did it. Anyway, I'm confident I can do this reliably in the future.
Excellent job. It really isn't as hard as it appears at first.
Also from hopping around here and there in normal dungeons I think OOH egg rate is overhyped. I get a fair amount from the dungeons higher up like Sky City or Junos Island, and even better xp/stam rate. The advantage comes from the mystic masks, and for you all the dudes will be blue, which Valk can use better.
That said, OOH is still a great place to start stacking the ranks, even outside of weekends. You'll also have all the mystic masks you'll ever need over time.
(Speaking of plus eggs, Tower of Jewels is coming in a few days, which supposedly has the best plus egg rate in the game. The downside that it's full of those murderous 'buncles we all love so much.)
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(http://i.imgur.com/eZypMFkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/eZypMFk.jpg)
Not sure I'll be making a Balanced team anytime soon, but hey, another monster.
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Hera-Beorc sure is a really painful dungeon for a Kirin team
Good thing I'm only here for the green jewel so these fails at Hera mean nothing.
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I need to institute a new rule that I don't play within an hour of waking up. Got up this morning, noticed my stamina was full, and was like "Oh shit, better go do something to burn this off so I'm not wasting stamina". So I did an Ocean Of Heaven run... From which I ranked up and refilled all 15 stamina I had just spent. I probably could have gotten like... Half a Topalit with all of that stamina I just wasted.
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so i just fed one chaser to Haku
ONE CHASER AND IT SKILLED UP
I WILL NEVER BE THIS LUCKY AGAIN
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welp time for trollfest
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LUCIFER LOL
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i rolled and got a 5th grape dragon. im thinking one day when i bother with these things ill have rebel lucifer and his gang of purple dragons
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First pull. Toytops. I didn't have him already, so I guess that's fine?
Second pull-
(http://i.imgur.com/aOP7JTn.png)
I... don't have any water or physical teams, so unfortunately his usefulness is limited. Still cool to get fest-only guy though!
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:|
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I got another Ronia :V :V :V
And a WotN Lilith, and a Perseus, and a mystic fire knight okay I'm done
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mystic stone knight
thanatos
lucifer
vampire after i already famrd one ;-;
well at least i have somewhere to put all this dark xp now
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I got a Titan.
I already have a Gigas the Great and a Gigas for possible low-cost. :V
I might pull again but if I do it'll be later. >_>
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Against my better judgment I pulled once even though I should be saving for JP 2.0.
Shaitan.
That'll learn me :V
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Against my better judgment I pulled once even though I should be saving for JP 2.0.
Is there a big content update coming or something?
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So I was farming challenge mode for a bit to get 5 rolls.
At first I was impressed that my first roll was Lucifer but apparently everyone here got him ):
I also got Thanatos, a +1'd Gigas that I'm considering to feed him to my Horus, a second Echidna and a Troll Ice Guardian.
So... how to not pull anything on the godfest. ._.
I almost feel like doing a sixth pull, but I'm not gonna risk it, I'll just save stones for valk descended.
However, it was said that Oukuninushi was a great sub for Dual Luci, yes? Because I do have Oukuninushi so... I guess I can do SOMETHING with this Lucifer.
Well, it's a thought anyway,
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http://www.twitch.tv/bigshibakun
200 Roll stream. 3 rolls in. ;v
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gungho getting paid
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So that dude has five R/D Guan Yus, 5 Rodins and at least 3 Ronias.
I feel like he'll get another 3 at the end of this pull streak.
@Edit
He just pulled his third DMeta. I'm so jealous right now.
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I have no stones to roll with. Besides, I have three of the Chinese gods and if I get a duplicate...
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Is there a big content update coming or something?
Not as far as I know; Kushinada's just the only REM monster I really want at the moment.
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I have no stones to roll with. Besides, I have three of the Chinese gods and if I get a duplicate...
Duplicate Chinese gods are fine. I mean you'll never need more than one for a sub but hey I almost have a team filled with Suzakus.
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I decided to try once and got another Dark Golem Mk. II. I don't really want any golems, but I would've grudgingly taken a different golem at least. Maybe the fire one since he looks like Gunbuster if you squint? But no, more Dark Golems is cool too (it isn't).
Just gonna keep saving those stones for that day that'll probably never come where Eva comes back, because if it ever does I am getting everything in the series.
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Duplicate Chinese gods are fine. I mean you'll never need more than one for a sub but hey I almost have a team filled with Suzakus.
Six Suzakus can work as a team.
Six Byakkos sounds awesome with 12 row enhances except you can't actually proc anything. :V
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...Who made the two-prong infographic anyway, Bio?
I'm curious if it's actual propaganda to make people waste huge amounts of money on zhuge ;v
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All these infographics for PAD pop up all the time and no one (on english threads) never know where they come from.
Also rolled an evolved Chiyome, isn't a Hatsume or Hanzo so pretty useless.
Looks like no one can enter dungeons either now :/
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All these infographics for PAD pop up all the time and no one (on english threads) never know where they come from.
Also rolled an evolved Chiyome, isn't a Hatsume or Hanzo so pretty useless.
Looks like no one can enter dungeons either now :/
Yeah I should hunt them down to punch them
Seriously leaving out that 10 rows is completely equal to full two two-prong is fucking dirty as shit holy hell
And that team bottom is bullshit.
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just bought a pull so I could have some godfest fun with my brother over the phone.
He got an Alraune.
I got an unevolved Lilith. Another one. :persona:
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Relatedly, Hanzo count: 3/28.
A bittersweet end to this madness.
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Chiyome, Shardra and an evolved water golem. These gold eggs :(
Looks like this game doesn't want me running any dark teams.
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And that team bottom is bullshit.
Wait, calm down.
You're talking about that Chinese Infographic linked earlier right?
The bottom part is just an example to show if you're using a two-prong team with some row enhances, how do you choose either to make rows or two-prongs by comparing the multipliers on both side of the table.
It is in no way advocating the use of either awakening over the other generally.
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Wait, calm down.
You're talking about that Chinese Infographic linked earlier right?
The bottom part is just an example to show if you're using a two-prong team with some row enhances, how do you choose either to make rows or two-prongs by comparing the multipliers on both side of the table.
It is in no way advocating the use of either awakening over the other generally.
Eh.
I suppose?
The infographic is still pretty bad, and no one is at ALL taking what they should be away from it because of how it's set up, and that bottom part is probably the BIGGEST factor, to be blunt.
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SO I GOT A PRE EVOLVED KIRIN
JUST UEVOD GER OMG SHE HAS FEET
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I can't enter any dungeon...at all.
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Yaaaay Gigasfest has arrived :derp:
Balances out the shiny new Isis I got last time I suppose.
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I can't enter any dungeon...at all.
apparently switching to PST on date and time on the settings of your phone fixes it. pretty annoying
also i got a pandora on my alt hahahahaha
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The army of wisps rolls through town
(http://i.imgur.com/MuBj6lQ.png)
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So I've hit another weird wall and I don't know what to do about it. This time it isn't anything to do with my team, it's that it's become impossible for me to get usable friend leaders for some reason. All but one of my ulti-Valkyrie friends hasn't had their Valkyrie up in like five days, all of my Metatron friends have disappeared, and none of my I&I friends ever seem to be on when I am.
I sent out fifteen friend requests last night using the friend finder and didn't get one hit. I guess I can just sit here and farm, but I can't do dungeons at my level any more and I don't know how to fix it. Is this a normal problem, and if so, what do? Guess I'm going to go send out a bunch more requests, but if 0/15 is any indication I'll need a lot to get anywhere.
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People can take a while to accept friend requests. Anyway, you can always send more requests. :V You'll eventually get someone.
I have an ulti evod I&I but I don't usually have her up because my water team is trash.
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Spent my entire lunch break sending out requests and got a few takers already. Now based on precedent every single one of them will have permanently switched to Lucifer or Lu Bu by the end of the week. :V Still, good news for now.
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I think it's requires like rank 100 or 125 or something, but at that point you can see two leaders from each of your friends. So a lot of them might not have disappeared exactly, but might be listed under the alternate display leader - this is most certainly the case if my Metatron isn't showing but you're seeing something else from me.
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Two leader selection is at 120.
Anyway, the compensation stones got me enough for one pull, turns out I got myself a nice Wood leader now. Snagged Perseus.
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Managed to scrounge up enough stones for 2 more rolls. Chiyome and Sun Wukong. At least they're gods?
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Re: double team system, I guess all you can do right now is just try to grind to 120 (This should not take very long if you just do OOH, trust me). I tend to have Bastet up as my Team 1 lead slot for when her team is ready, so you probably couldn't see her since I don't use that team.
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I just watched somebody get five gold eggs in a row, which makes me really want to try again, but... Yeah, still nothing I really want. And I know I would just get another Dark Golem anyway.
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5 gold could be 5 evolved golems.
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Awww...I was hoping for BATTLE FREYJA and attacker Loki. They both got balanced (http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=53161) :( Toydragon buffs though. Cool.
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Indian 2.0 gods are crazy.
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Indian 2.0 gods are crazy.
hahaha holy shit
this really is the two-prong pantheon
rest in fucking pieces bad indians BV
actually i think they might be okay but don't quote me on this
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So Zaerog went from the Dragon Lord to the Pirate Lord. Why GungHo, why.
Still, not like I should be caring much considering that this uvo seriously doesn't impress me, the lower cooldown and x2 atk on the active might be it's only saving grace but I don't think it's worth losing the unconditional x3,5 atk + x1,35HP and a 35% gravity for it. Especially when you consider that Zaerog's stats just aren't worth it to put him as a sub (Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to give the game's Final Boss a measly 423 weighted on a 5mil exp curve? ._. )
Plus it just looks silly.
Still, I'm glad GungHo is at least trying to remember that this game is called puzzles & DRAGONS.
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DragoFreyr is actually really legit.
Freyja balance is kinda iffy but totally legit too, btw.
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Sarasvati
Active: Increase water orb skyfall chance for 3 turns
LS: 3 water combo = 5x ATK
wat
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wat
ACTIVATE THREE TWO-PRONGS DO IT NERD DO IT
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(http://i.imgur.com/eehyasD.jpg)
My new phone wallpaper I think <_<
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Well, I got through the Vesta Cave, it's... sad that the game is pushing me more and more to use my R/D Shiva friends instead of my Ares friends. >_>''
Does the game really slow down this much after a while? Because I somehow don't feel like doing technicals and Normals are starting to kick my ass.
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final analysis: two-prong can get fucked krishna and sara have high enough multipliers to not care about it
vishnu can uh
hope he gets attacker
also durga for new best monster???? i'm not sold to be honest
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ASTAROTH GOT A HEALER TYPE ULTIMATE OH MY GOSH
MY DREAM WOOD HEALER TEAM IS COMPLETE YESSSSSSSSS
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR COMPETENT WOOD HEALERS FOR SO LONG ;w;
6 Row Enhances (7 if I use Bastet for friend leader), 6 Skill Boosts
and also Sun Quan's OP healer enhance skill
I know avalondrake isn't a healer but can't pass up that amazing skill and awakenings...
(http://i.imgur.com/1cIsaiu.png)
For a moment, I was so freakin worried they're give her Physical for GuanYu.
Now... gotta raise that Avalondrake freshly drawn from godfes that overlapped with wood carnival. Skill ups gonna be annoying, I can already foresee the blue mask dropping 100% more frequently than the green one.
New Indian Series seems interesting but they seem to suffer from the same problem as Heroes? They seem like they'd have trouble with longer dungeons since they'll run out of orbs at some point and can't activate their leader skills (water indo in particular needs 9 water orbs for her leader skill). We'll have to see how effective their active skills are though, I doubt they'd make it rain the corresponding colour orbs for infinite skyfall combos like that dragon in Fire Zeus, as that'd make them the best sub for Anubis ever. :V
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Well, I got through the Vesta Cave, it's... sad that the game is pushing me more and more to use my R/D Shiva friends instead of my Ares friends. >_>''
Does the game really slow down this much after a while? Because I somehow don't feel like doing technicals and Normals are starting to kick my ass.
Really? Personally, I find Ares friends to be much safer. Sure Shiva gives a higher attack multiplier, but Ares givles a double orb change, which provides a much larger burst than Shiva's orb enchance. Of course, I'm assuming that you're using your tyrannos and and you're not row spamming.
Also, I So Zaerog went from the Dragon Lord to the Pirate Lord. Why GungHo, why.
Still, not like I should be caring much considering that this uvo seriously doesn't impress me, the lower cooldown and x2 atk on the active might be it's only saving grace but I don't think it's worth losing the unconditional x3,5 atk + x1,35HP and a 35% gravity for it. Especially when you consider that Zaerog's stats just aren't worth it to put him as a sub (Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to give the game's Final Boss a measly 423 weighted on a 5mil exp curve? ._. )
Plus it just looks silly.
That cooldown reduction is MASSIVE though. 35 ->22. You actually stand a chance of actually using it in harder dungeons. As someone who uses Hera-Is in Kirin, stalling is not fun. It doesn't exist for me most of the time. It also provides an on color draggie with better stats and a mini gravity tacked on for free. For most dungeons(the ones that don't have huge tanks like Zeus), it'll do more damage than the gravaties. My main disappoint is the loss of the row boost and the fact the cooldown is still pretty big. I hope he gets buffed.
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Shiva is for those random defence bosses though.
Also Dark/Fire/Wood/Water is the best 4 colour. Shame about the 1 hp on the God enhance.
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Really? Personally, I find Ares friends to be much safer. Sure Shiva gives a higher attack multiplier, but Ares givles a double orb change, which provides a much larger burst than Shiva's orb enchance. Of course, I'm assuming that you're using your tyrannos and and you're not row spamming.
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I'm still using my Ares Friends quite a bit, it's just the more I play, the more Ifrits and Ifrit-Like-Monsters I have to deal with and since I have to save my big burst for the boss (but can't go through the monster's defense without it) I'm pushed to Shiva.
I don't really use Shiva for the Orb Enhance myself, I have Horus for that.
That cooldown reduction is MASSIVE though. 35 ->22. You actually stand a chance of actually using it in harder dungeons. As someone who uses Hera-Is in Kirin, stalling is not fun. It doesn't exist for me most of the time. It also provides an on color draggie with better stats and a mini gravity tacked on for free. For most dungeons(the ones that don't have huge tanks like Zeus), it'll do more damage than the gravaties. My main disappoint is the loss of the row boost and the fact the cooldown is still pretty big. I hope he gets buffed.
True, the lower cooldown is going to be the biggest factor (though skilling it up will be even more impossible than Zaerog's 35% gravity). Though if you're using Zaerog as a sub you'll have to deal with his pitifully low stats (unless this uvo gets a massive stat boost, which probably won't happen since that already kind of happened with D/D Zaerog) and amazingly huge exp curve (How many more monsters have a 5mil exp curve, again?). What's even more egregious is that Draggie gives a bigger boost at a slightly lower cooldown (which can get much lower) for what will probably be only slightly worse Weighted Stats and less than 1,3mil exp to max. I mean, sure, Draggie's off-color, but it's still pretty stupid.
As far as using him as a leader goes, you're essentially better off using regular Zaerog since he gets a conditional x3,5, instead of an unconditional one, and unlike D/D Zaerog he doesn't give x1,35HP either.
Which reminds me, when are the Zaerog buffs coming to NA?
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I'll be able to ultimate evolve at least two of my healer girls, if not all of them, in the next week. As a result I ran Keeper Of The Rainbow earlier and will probably do at least one more before bed, and I still used green Odin to do it. My team can put a noticeable dent in the Keeper at the end with King Shynee on, which makes me wonder if I could actually just kill one with brute force if I also had a x3 attack leader. I think I can do it, but I don't want to try because 25 stamina is a lot to potentially waste.
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I can burst down RK now with 12.25x (3.5x lead in both slots) and no king slime boosts or anything. Valk is 3.5x, right? So you should be able to do it, though I dunno how many times you can drop "bombs" (Leilan and the chinese girls have specific tricolor full-board change actives, which can get really devastating), and how your attack stats look compared to mine. Though I think using rdj's Valk (Just Lv99, full team not even Healer), I did beat him once like that.
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I'll be able to ultimate evolve at least two of my healer girls, if not all of them, in the next week. As a result I ran Keeper Of The Rainbow earlier and will probably do at least one more before bed, and I still used green Odin to do it. My team can put a noticeable dent in the Keeper at the end with King Shynee on, which makes me wonder if I could actually just kill one with brute force if I also had a x3 attack leader. I think I can do it, but I don't want to try because 25 stamina is a lot to potentially waste.
I still haven't ulted my healer girls, and my Echidna's maxed.
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I can burst down RK now with 12.25x (3.5x lead in both slots) and no king slime boosts or anything. Valk is 3.5x, right? So you should be able to do it, though I dunno how many times you can drop "bombs" (Leilan and the chinese girls have specific tricolor full-board change actives, which can get really devastating), and how your attack stats look compared to mine. Though I think using rdj's Valk (Just Lv99, full team not even Healer), I did beat him once like that.
valk is only 3x
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Valk is 3.5x, right?
Just 3x.
I'm still at the point where I'm not too confident in tackling the harder dungeons, though, since 9x (two Valks) or 10.5x (Valk + LMeta) isn't quite enough when King Shynee's still on cooldown, is it? So if I can't take it with 10.5x I try to find stall options if possible, and if not I just don't run. Hopefully that'll change in the future.
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I still haven't ulted my healer girls, and my Echidna's maxed.
On the flip side, I ulted all my healer girls (and any other monster that lands in my box) and I don't even use them regularly.
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So... How hard are Descends? At what point should I be thinking about trying them? And what's the plan? Seems like just about everything in just about every Descend one-shots me, and I don't think I can burst everything down forever. I guess I've still got the potential for another couple thousand HP once I get everything ultimate evolved and better leveled, so maybe at that point I'll be able to barely survive some stuff, but every single one I've looked at still seems pretty impossible.
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When I was at that stage with my healer team I did 2 Heroes then Hera. Then it was whatever descend I could put together a team for.
Right now I primarily have a Healer team and a Ronia Devil team, those two have served me quite well. I have a physical team that's been super slow building but eventually will become active.
The thing about PAD is that some monsters act as keys to dungeons, but other than that once you have a functioning team you're almost better off farming for +eggs. Even though GungHo has a steady power creep going on, the chances of getting those key monsters is really slim.
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Earlier descends can be beaten by defensive teams while later descends require some combination of high multipliers/enhance/rows. Double Chinese 12.25 is high enough for descends since the rows which the subs provide boost the damage enough so that 2 million hp can easily be bursted down in 2-3 turns.
The entry descends of Hera and Two Heroes, being non-technical can be waded through with Odin/Auto healer. Hera especially for most people is overcome with Resist/Odin or if you any spike team really.
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My first descended was Two Heroes and I didn't even use resists, I just used my usual 2/4/2 setup of Grand Tyrannos/Ares with Echidna/Horus/meteor Volcano Dragon/Gigas as subs, that gave me about 31k HP and an unconditional x4 ATK multiplier (While also giving me a nice boost in RCV, which this team unfortunately lacks).
My team however was pretty high level (Though I don't remember the actual numbers at the time, Tyrannos was already max Leveled and Echidna and Meteor Volcano Dragon should've been level 65-ish, Horus should've been either 60-ish or 80) and this team not only gives me controllable high burst (Ares + Meteor Volcano Dragon gives me control of 4 orbs, with Horus for the orb enhance, my damage was pretty high), but also a small failsafe in case I ever needed more damage for any situation (Gigas's Heartbreak) and a max-skilled echidna ensured I always had a way out.
I don't know how realistic it is for you to put a team like that up, but if you can you should have no problems doing two heroes, at the very least, since I was able to no-stone it 4 out of the 6 times I ran it (with the other 2 being 1-stones).
I'm gonna try out Goddess Descended myself, she's the only heartbreaker I don't have at this point and since I already have Raphael I might as well get her out.
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Enjoy stalling for gravity with Horus.
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Thinking about it, balanced Freyja isn't bad. Teaming up with another Freyja gives you 4 row boosts, and in terms of orbchangers, you get Cu Chu, ADK, and the toydragon to play with. Getting those next few extra rows isn't impossible either. If plan came out, that'd be pretty nice too. Then she could play with Zeus-Dios.
Too bad almost everything that works with new I&I requires the REM.
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Zeus-Dios has a 30 turn CD. It only becomes a bearable CD after 10 skill ups to reach the other full-board changers of GSonia and Meimei. Generate Earth Dragon replaces the roll of what Hanzo would be in other row teams. But Freyja/Meimei/GE Dragon/Woodsie/(Artemis?) provides only 4 rows which kind of sucks for making rows. You kind of have to abandon the row ambition or the balanced ambition to make a capable team. 9x Balanced teams and green row teams under higher base multiplier leads (Bastet/Meimei) already exist.
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Thinking about it, balanced Freyja isn't bad. Teaming up with another Freyja gives you 4 row boosts, and in terms of orbchangers, you get Cu Chu, ADK, and the toydragon to play with. Getting those next few extra rows isn't impossible either. If plan came out, that'd be pretty nice too. Then she could play with Zeus-Dios.
Too bad almost everything that works with new I&I requires the REM.
i'm sorry i must have been misleading when I said iffy because her row options are actually slightly less bountiful
It was never a real question of bad and more 'how absurdly ridiculous is she'.
The answer is she has gronia, but only 8 rows but only because you can shove a lot of utility and survivability into that last spot.
So really good but not new best team NA at the moment. Especially since they're wasting time on two-prong.
Zeus-Dios has a 30 turn CD. It only becomes a bearable CD after 10 skill ups to reach the other full-board changers of GSonia and Meimei. Generate Earth Dragon replaces the roll of what Hanzo would be in other row teams. But Freyja/Meimei/GE Dragon/Woodsie/(Artemis?) provides only 4 rows which kind of sucks for making rows. You kind of have to abandon the row ambition or the balanced ambition to make a capable team. 9x Balanced teams and green row teams under higher base multiplier leads (Bastet/Meimei) already exist.
no even that team would have six rows since artemis and light genbu have one row.
also that team is awful what the fuck
Edit: like no i'm not trying to be an asshole
but seriously why the hell is GE dragon in there when you can fit in CuChu perfectly fine if you're even doing that
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Enjoy stalling for gravity with Horus.
I'm gonna try it with my monored, actually, my Horus team isn't even at "usable" status at this point considering I don't even have a dark sub for it!
Before actually indulging in the rainbow madness that is the Almighty Flaming Chicken, I'll at the very least get Cu Chu to uvo and Alma into pre-uvo status. By then I should have enough team cost to get siegfried into pre-uvo status too.
But there's still a long way to go since I wanna get Meteor Volcano Dragon to level 80 before finally investing heavily in my rainbow team.
I don't know if I can do Goddess Descended, to be honest, even with the usual 2/4/2 setup, I certainly hope I can but, it's probably not happening, even on legend.
But if I can do it, hooo boy, that's one step closer to having a Healer Spike team
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Using the dragon as dark->green which is what Hanzo does in similar teams so that Meimei is G/G/L field rather than G/D/L. GSonia is cool if it hits 2 rows. Most of the useful green rows aren't in balanced, only ones that matter are GSonia (1), Meimei (1), Artemis (1). 7 rows disregarding last sub slot which you can do whatever with like Chu or Fafnir (2 more rows but useless active) or Woodsie. It just looks like a simple row team which depending on how big the RCU boost can be really good or just middling good if its not high enough to make stalling a joke. Random mix of G/D/L makes it less effective than 2 colour teams and without a way to fix change Meimei around her active will more than likely just give one green row and 3-4 other green orbs. The leader actives also are a waste since you won't be row bursting for that long.
Looks better than I&I healer because of access to board changers and Greek god but doesn't blow anything out of the water. I mean if someone was dying to use Freyja then this is a godsend since its a team which can do probably all applicable descends with the stats, just the synergy between subs isn't as apparent and also the fact Avalon Drake is off in God/Dragon teams.
Team will become better once 2x Balanced active sub comes out which has good stats/awakening. Then Meimei could be replaced for a fast orb changer like Cu chu. Still juggling between subtype enhance and wood enhance but.
Didn't count partner Freyja rows for the team, my bad.
e: Sarasvati/Karin/Hatsume/Kamui/another prong is just the same as Andromeda since you need 12 orbs to make 4x3 and 2x6 anyway. If the active has a terrible cd then its just the same as Andromeda except with no ramp up in case you don't have 9 orbs.
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Using the dragon as dark->green which is what Hanzo does in similar teams so that Meimei is G/G/L field rather than G/D/L. GSonia is cool if it hits 2 rows. Most of the useful green rows aren't in balanced, only ones that matter are GSonia (1), Meimei (1), Artemis (1). 7 rows disregarding last sub slot which you can do whatever with like Chu or Fafnir (2 more rows but useless active) or Woodsie. It just looks like a simple row team which depending on how big the RCU boost can be really good or just middling good if its not high enough to make stalling a joke. Random mix of G/D/L makes it less effective than 2 colour teams and without a way to fix change Meimei around her active will more than likely just give one green row and 3-4 other green orbs. The leader actives also are a waste since you won't be row bursting for that long.
Looks better than I&I healer because of access to board changers and Greek god but doesn't blow anything out of the water. I mean if someone was dying to use Freyja then this is a godsend since its a team which can do probably all applicable descends with the stats, just the synergy between subs isn't as apparent and also the fact Avalon Drake is off in God/Dragon teams.
Didn't count partner Freyja rows for the team, my bad.
it's literally three in the morning so i'll make this brief
you're still building the team wrong because you're not realizing meimei and gronia together is wasteful and that dropping a slot for two rows to bring you to eight rows is not actually bad (also that fafnir's active being skill uppable doesn't make it a complete waste) and that a third freyja means your active is always up if max-skilled to boot which grants two more rows and a higher multiplier
also you're thinking too linearly for the final slot if you only came up with three options out of all of green balanced.
avalon drake is a complete non-factor to be perfectly blunt, why does he matter we have gronia jfc.
also I&I healer is currently really fucking good 30k health with 7 rows (nine if you slot another I&I for fun and permenant active) so i'm not sure why you think this beats it, not getting Hp instead of rcv is p. sad actually
there's so much wrong here but bottom line Freyja has a pretty bright future right now actually if she's not 'omg top-tier must whale for' and is probably one green's stars right now and if you think that means 'literally nothing' because she's not dethroning shit like dmeta and kirin boy do i have news for you about team diversity being a good thing and how comparison to others does not make your team worse
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also you're thinking too linearly for the final slot if you only came up with three options out of all of green balanced.
No like actually, the others are Sylph and Airou collab.
I&I healer requires a ton of investment in REM and kind of sits itself normally in the pack with the traditional multiplier teams. In harder descends you also need to take in heart makers since even though you can take large boss hits the hearts aren't guaranteed to drop which means basically running DXDQ or Siren. With the proper subs she can make most descends pretty easy, probably easier and safer than Kirin though not quite as fast. A proper REM Ronia team probably does this better however since you can stall easier floors and won't need to take hits on the later floors with consecutive board changes.
It's good, sure, but if you're being stone-conscious then it doesn't feel worth it to fish for the required subs to acheive this maximum potential.
Same thing applies for Freyja balanced too, why bother running balanced anyway when you can just run rows with Parvati (at least until there is a better balance enhanced). It's undoubtedly a viable team, but not anything an average player would specifically aim for unless they really like Freyja/I&I.
I'm just trying to look for something that is actually going to dethrone Rsonia in terms of damage/ease of use/investment and the ult evo simply pushed these obsolete leads back in life with the rest of the 'good' pack.
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I'm just trying to look for something that is actually going to dethrone Rsonia in terms of damage/ease of use/investment and the ult evo simply pushed these obsolete leads back in life with the rest of the 'good' pack.
please just do homework before you claim a card is only 'good' or anything and do not make arguments not properly understanding or considering what you can do with the card
that infuriates me to no end and you've been doing this the entire fucking discussion
i don't care if you're making stupid standards for cards that are based off of a heavy bias on a pretty broken card, just do your homework that's really all i ask for
you can work on fixing those standards and understanding that's not what you should be looking for after that.
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Saves up 10000 Pal Points for Rare Evo Materials.
Obtains the a lot worthless trash in PEM, with not even a single healer girl either.
Obtains 6 Sacred Masks that are worthless to me as of the moment.
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8600 pal points and the only noteworthy things are a baby tama, a blue mask, and another gold keeper
no angelit
what is this
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Which is better to Ultimate Evo first? Echidna or Plesios or Earth Dragon?
I have enough materials for atleast one ultimate evo atm.
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Which is better to Ultimate Evo first? Echidna or Plesios or Earth Dragon?
I have enough materials for atleast one ultimate evo atm.
Which do you actually use? If you use all of them, I say Plessie-Earth-Echidna. Echidna gets pretty much nothing and if you ult her you actually lose stats unless she's at max health. Not to mention she's useful in quite a few conditionals.
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Which do you actually use? If you use all of them, I say Plessie-Earth-Echidna. Echidna gets pretty much nothing and if you ult her you actually lose stats unless she's at max health. Not to mention she's useful in quite a few conditionals.
Plessie it is!
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If you're still leading with Plessie I'd say her as to become the poor-man's I&I.
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What ever happened to that second Echidna ult that the art wasn't ready for yet? Was that just a rumor?
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Did 30 pulls and the only notable things were a baby tama and a Devilit.
Then again since I really didn't need anything, Devilit is pretty rad. Though I'm not sure what to use it on-- I could use it to evolve my Vampire, Gryps Rider, and... that's pretty much it since I don't have Haku or Karin. <<;
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What ever happened to that second Echidna ult that the art wasn't ready for yet? Was that just a rumor?
Ooh, a new Echidna? Did the rumor say anything else? The current one seems kind of underwhelming (maybe she's not, she doesn't seem like she does a lot for me), so a different option would be cool. A different subtype seems like it would be cool. RU would be nice but unlikely, RW or RB maybe more likely.
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What ever happened to that second Echidna ult that the art wasn't ready for yet? Was that just a rumor?
Yeah it was solidly a rumor. There was never room in the monster book for it, and it was pretty clearly the mighty ecchi-sama was too good to improve.
Ooh, a new Echidna? Did the rumor say anything else? The current one seems kind of underwhelming (maybe she's not, she doesn't seem like she does a lot for me), so a different option would be cool. A different subtype seems like it would be cool. RU would be nice but unlikely, RW or RB maybe more likely.
This rumor was ages ago when the first ultimate was revealed and the previous healer girl ultis were both two ultimates for each girl. People were disappointed she only got one.
Both she and Siren ended up getting the short stick for their previous use, with Siren probably being the one who wanted another ultimate more at the time (Now with Blue Healer being fantastic, she has a poverty place as a combo in it with Blue Valk).
Also yes, She's actually not underwhelming because her delay is so absurdly powerful when it works improving her in most other ways would be incredibly silly. She's a really great card.
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Also yes, She's actually not underwhelming because her delay is so absurdly powerful when it works improving her in most other ways would be incredibly silly. She's a really great card.
Well yeah, I don't think anyone's disputing that. Her active is so good and versatile that she would be on my team even if she had all zeroes. But having stats and other abilities as she does, her ultimate evo adds fairly little. I don't feel very incentivized to do it (although I will anyway). Maybe giving her more options would be excessive since she's already so great, but it would be interesting. Maybe even make her drastically different to the point of not stepping on the toes of her previous forms with a new active or something. I don't know, more buzz around characters that popular is fun.
But, of course, if she doesn't fit in the available slots then fair enough. I don't know how that works.
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Well yeah, I don't think anyone's disputing that. Her active is so good and versatile that she would be on my team even if she had all zeroes. But having stats and other abilities as she does, her ultimate evo adds fairly little. I don't feel very incentivized to do it (although I will anyway). Maybe giving her more options would be excessive since she's already so great, but it would be interesting. Maybe even make her drastically different to the point of not stepping on the toes of her previous forms with a new active or something. I don't know, more buzz around characters that popular is fun.
But, of course, if she doesn't fit in the available slots then fair enough. I don't know how that works.
While her current ultimate is actually very underwhelming (And has the problem of 'whoops we changed her curve') it's really kind of all she needs, more attack and a subelement for her is pretty nice actually.
It's not that they can't make it because no more slots, it's that they never intended to because they didn't save a slot for it. In short, they basically have no plans for another ultimate echidna.
Fantasizing about things is always fun, but completely disappointing when they do things like give your favorite monster probably the worst ultimate in the game. I'd be wary on stepping on that without reasonable expectation.
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Finally got a Jewel! Good thing Take is so easy even on Mythical.
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Took two stones, but Takeminakata get. One was to the gatekeeper demons(Sucker Punch then Chop Off.), one to Take himself(didn't stall enough for actives so I ate a Sword of Yasaka which did well over my max HP.)
I probably didn't need something ELSE taking up my box space, but whatever, I have my second descend boss now which is cool. Maybe this will inspire me to get my Gigas worked on or something.
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I did a mish mash of subs for DQXQ since DQXQ op
it didn't work for mythical
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About the whole "no slots thing for echidna", there was actually some discussion about it on pdx because there were two free slots which could be used for both the echidna and siren second uvos, but they ended up being Sandalphon.
Speaking of these things though, a friend of mine said that a second Kirin uvo was gonna come out eventually but "its art wasn't ready", how true is this?
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About the whole "no slots thing for echidna", there was actually some discussion about it on pdx because there were two free slots which could be used for both the echidna and siren second uvos, but they ended up being Sandalphon.
Speaking of these things though, a friend of mine said that a second Kirin uvo was gonna come out eventually but "its art wasn't ready", how true is this?
Complete bullshit, essentially.
It's milling along the lines of 'the other chinese gods got two!' when kirin is plain the exception in a number of ways, much like how ecchi and siren only got one.
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Echidna's and Kirin's uvos were Player's Choice, no?
Because if so it would make sense that they wouldn't get second uvos.
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player's choice uvos were Kirin, Lmeta, and Luci
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Echidna's and Kirin's uvos were Player's Choice, no?
Because if so it would make sense that they wouldn't get second uvos.
Echidna was just already happening.
She's just too good and gungho has been wanting to push her out of meta with 'other delays' and stuff like that.
Siren similarly is fantastic solely based on her ability to be easily skilled up so I guess that's why she did it. (even though before blue healer was a thing she really wanted something else)
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Okay so the new Zaerog uvo is a lot better than I thought because it's stats are actually a lot better than D/D's(Gains 1000HP, 200ATK and 50RCV compared to D/D's 500HP 50ATK and 50RCV).
I was actually kind of hoping for them to do the sensible thing and just buff all of Zaerog's base stats so that they don't have to give such MASSIVE boosts in his uvos but :derp:
Well, that's one useful sub for dragon teams, at least, I hope this keeps up, we have quite a few useful leaders now but not nearly enough subs to actually make dragon teams A Thing. (Are there any actually useful ones that are non-rem? I can think of the fruit dragons and the sonias, that's about it really.)
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Okay so the new Zaerog uvo is a lot better than I thought because it's stats are actually a lot better than D/D's(Gains 1000HP, 200ATK and 50RCV compared to D/D's 500HP 50ATK and 50RCV).
I was actually kind of hoping for them to do the sensible thing and just buff all of Zaerog's base stats so that they don't have to give such MASSIVE boosts in his uvos but :derp:
Well, that's one useful sub for dragon teams, at least, I hope this keeps up, we have quite a few useful leaders now but not nearly enough subs to actually make dragon teams A Thing. (Are there any actually useful ones that are non-rem? I can think of the fruit dragons and the sonias, that's about it really.)
Mystic knights, maybe upcoming biweeklies. They're starting to get rows. Sanzengs. Draggie. Wangren and Beyzul. Late Bloomers are useful now. There's a lot of decent stuff, but holy crap amazing stuff is harder to come by.
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Excuse me? The Late Bloomers are useful now? Did they get a buff or something?
As for the Twin Dragons, aren't they more Fire/Water subs than specifically dragon ones though? Especially considering their Leader Skill/Active Skill.
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Late Bloomers have two row enhances and a skill boost. They also have a pretty minor damage enhance, and if you use their trifruit evolutions you can pretend you have a Hero God leader. :V
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Excuse me? The Late Bloomers are useful now? Did they get a buff or something?
As for the Twin Dragons, aren't they more Fire/Water subs than specifically dragon ones though? Especially considering their Leader Skill/Active Skill.
They've been useful ever since people found out how good rows are. Their awakening are pretty solid and the buff to their active was useful. Them getting ults that gave them decent stats made them decent substitutes for anyone without the corresponding Norse god.
Using Twin Dragons as leads is a thing. Not a thing I support, but people are doing it. Wangren is a decent conditional lead though.
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Skilling them up is such a pain though, and their cooldown is so obnoxiously long if you don't skill them up.
I mean, sure, skilling them up is a lot easier than a lot of alternatives I'm sure but still it's 20 skillups and the only remotely available fodder are the chimeras and that's like :colonveeplusalpha:
(I would be a happy man if my Tyrannos didn't have such a long cooldown, really.)
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Skilling them up is such a pain though, and their cooldown is so obnoxiously long if you don't skill them up.
I mean, sure, skilling them up is a lot easier than a lot of alternatives I'm sure but still it's 20 skillups and the only remotely available fodder are the chimeras and that's like :colonveeplusalpha:
(I would be a happy man if my Tyrannos didn't have such a long cooldown, really.)
That's why I want the gungho collab to come back.
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Well, I just tried Valk Descended, I two-stoned it before giving up, partially my fault for forgetting to use menace at the beginning of the battle but it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway since unleashing everything barely took 30% of her health.
I'll try some other time, with Horus, possibly, but for now I'll stay valkyrie-less. She's just too much for me to handle ):
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On my endeavours to getting a Valkyrie next time she rolls through, I decided "Hey, I might as well make a Luci Team!"
Of course, that would require two gravities, which means, two heras, which means, Hera Descended!
But amusingly enough, I seem to have 4/5ths of a potential Hera Team just raring to go, between my Drawn Joker and a GOdin, I have a 90% reduction of Hera's attacks, so I'll need 1500 autoheal, Lucifer has an auto heal awakening and so does GOdin, which means the last one could be a Lilith (who is farmable!) and the last two slots could very well be my Echidna (for failsafe) and the Devil Dragon I have lying around (obviously evo'd into CDD) just for stats.
Heck, it shouldn't even be too hard to beat Hera with that setup, 'course I'll need quite a bit more on that team to actually take on valkyrie (Investment into Luci, both Heras, Okuninushi and probably a 'buncle since I'll need some healing for the dual lucinuke) but it's certainly a start!
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Well, I just tried Valk Descended, I two-stoned it before giving up, partially my fault for forgetting to use menace at the beginning of the battle but it probably wouldn't have mattered anyway since unleashing everything barely took 30% of her health.
I'll try some other time, with Horus, possibly, but for now I'll stay valkyrie-less. She's just too much for me to handle ):
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On my endeavours to getting a Valkyrie next time she rolls through, I decided "Hey, I might as well make a Luci Team!"
Of course, that would require two gravities, which means, two heras, which means, Hera Descended!
But amusingly enough, I seem to have 4/5ths of a potential Hera Team just raring to go, between my Drawn Joker and a GOdin, I have a 90% reduction of Hera's attacks, so I'll need 1500 autoheal, Lucifer has an auto heal awakening and so does GOdin, which means the last one could be a Lilith (who is farmable!) and the last two slots could very well be my Echidna (for failsafe) and the Devil Dragon I have lying around (obviously evo'd into CDD) just for stats.
Heck, it shouldn't even be too hard to beat Hera with that setup, 'course I'll need quite a bit more on that team to actually take on valkyrie (Investment into Luci, both Heras, Okuninushi and probably a 'buncle since I'll need some healing for the dual lucinuke) but it's certainly a start!
I wouldn't use a buncle. Stats are too bad. If you're going Luci for Valkyrie, I'd suggest Hera/Hera/DJ/Keeper.
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Valk should be pretty easy now ri-
>resurrection
okay I'll just match x20 an-
>Resurrection
I...
>RESURRFUCKYOURECTION
:|
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So I am not liking this system where you are forced to use delay and gravs for tougher bosses. Really makes party composition a bitch and trying to stall for 30 turn cd is lol
Edit: Also what the f is up with these early supers I have some semblance of a life and need to go to class ffs gungho
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I wouldn't use a buncle. Stats are too bad. If you're going Luci for Valkyrie, I'd suggest Hera/Hera/DJ/Keeper.
Carbuncles let you Morning Star twice without giving Valkyrie a chance to do something in between. Like, uh, GET ALL HER HEALTH BACK.
I finally got my own Valk today, team was dual Lucis with Hera/Hera/Vritra/carbuncle :V
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I probably could do Valk with one of my teams but I have one maxed out and another babby one, both consolation Godfest prizes, I'm just like ehhhhhh.
Running Takeminekata mythical 5 times yesterday resulted in zero Suzaku invades I didn't know the rate so bleah on that too.
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Carbuncles let you Morning Star twice without giving Valkyrie a chance to do something in between. Like, uh, GET ALL HER HEALTH BACK.
I finally got my own Valk today, team was dual Lucis with Hera/Hera/Vritra/carbuncle :V
It'd be much safer to just throw in another gravity though. Dual gravities + 1 Morning star is enough to kill Valk without having to deal with valkyrie blade on Legend, and gives you more stats to fend off her regular attacks.
So I am not liking this system where you are forced to use delay and gravs for tougher bosses. Really makes party composition a bitch and trying to stall for 30 turn cd is lol
Edit: Also what the f is up with these early supers I have some semblance of a life and need to go to class ffs gungho
Yeah stalling sucks. It's part of the reason you don't really see gravity anymore.
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I use gravities!
... With my Kirin team. <_<
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Yeah stalling sucks. It's part of the reason you don't really see gravity anymore.
Not necessarily.
In this thread http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=30868 , I've been seeing that a lot of the successful 0-stone/farm teams on descends use Zeus - and his CD is even sillier! So clearly I'm doing something wrong here, and probably need to look into more survivability so I can take some of these jerks out.
@Matsy - Some people also splash Fagan/Kirin as subs for Lei too, apparently :V
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zeus is pretty easy to stall with though since any small hit reduces his attack to x1 and if you're fighting something that attacks every turn you won't ever leave x1 attack until you pop echidna
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Valk should be pretty easy now ri-
>resurrection
okay I'll just match x20 an-
>Resurrection
I...
>RESURRFUCKYOURECTION
:|
Wasn't she only supposed to use resurrection once?
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zeus is pretty easy to stall with though since any small hit reduces his attack to x1 and if you're fighting something that attacks every turn you won't ever leave x1 attack until you pop echidna
Well I mean they use Zeus as a sub for grav. Usually the FL is another Leilan or Bastet depending.
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Wasn't she only supposed to use resurrection once?
She can use it up to thrice. Uses it every three turns, with higher priority than her other moves. So sayeth PDX.
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3 mythical valk runs no invades
i only get 144 stamina per day dammit
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3 mythical valk runs no invades
i only get 144 stamina per day dammit
from what I heard, the invade rate for Mythicals is about 15%. Good freaking luck with that one.
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Apparently the GOdin Uvo is already out on NA? I checked their Facebook and it said nothing of this, did I miss something?
And the Meimei/Athena/Izanagi/Baal/Mystic Dragon uvos too.
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Checking the European facebook page, it seems like they got all of that stuff announced along with the Zaerog buffs at the same time they announced the Fagan Uvos, why the fuck did NA announce the Fagan Uvos but not the rest is beyond me.
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wow apparently the other valks beside light one get row enhance of their color
WHY NOT LIGHT VALK PLEASE
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I suspect GungHo can calculate how much $ each monster makes them, Valk and Echidna probably have negative income.
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THAT MAKES IT SO UNFAIR THAT ALL THE OTHER VERSIONS OF HER HAVE ROW ENHANCE
not that one row enhance matters BUT STILL
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Did a REM pull on a whim and got Gabriel. Can't wait for the inevitable healer or phys ult evo he'll get. That RCV is to die for.
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New Ult Evos. It's funny that I'm always psyched about updates, even though I don't actually benefit from most of them until I hit rank 100 or get some good monsters.
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THAT MAKES IT SO UNFAIR THAT ALL THE OTHER VERSIONS OF HER HAVE ROW ENHANCE
not that one row enhance matters BUT STILL
Isn't light row enhance the "worst" right now
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0 stoned Hera Sol mythical and got the genbu invade fuck yes BV
Just need a kirin invade tomorrow for dat Athena ult
wait 2 prong is 4 OR MORE now!? so they stack with rows whaaaatttttt
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wait 2 prong is 4 OR MORE now!? so they stack with rows whaaaatttttt
Wait, what?
... REALLY?
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it says so on the official Facebook page
brb gonna test it myself
e: nope not true
good job gungho na as always
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I was gonna say. Recent jp videos featuring row/prong teams still go out of their way to make a 4x match somewhere
Also here have paprika wrecking the hera rush with OTG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmaKrjBwDC0)
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So how does 2x drop rates work exactly? I'm up to like nine Dub-Mythlits in a row on Shrine Of Spirits, and incidentally every time I've ever run it has been 2x drops. Are these things related? I need Dub-Topalits!
Also, is there a reason Amethyst Pengdra's evolution requirements are much more expensive and Topaz Pengradra is much cheaper than all of the others? I feel like a chump for wasting stamina on Metal Dragon Alert now.
Edit: Woo, got one on my fourth(?) try of the day. Cute Glasses Angel get. And I incidentally got exactly what I needed to do Siren as well as soon as I have enough points to put her ultivo on my team.
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Also here have paprika wrecking the hera rush with OTG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmaKrjBwDC0)
that change the world combo
that bsonia cascade combo
paprika's a fucking MONSTER
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Also, is there a reason Amethyst Pengdra's evolution requirements are much more expensive and Topaz Pengradra is much cheaper than all of the others? I feel like a chump for wasting stamina on Metal Dragon Alert now.
Because gold dragons don't appear anywhere near as often as metal ones do.
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/VJFC2pql.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/VJFC2pq.jpg)
Things I've confirmed via SCIENCE:
--Tornado Holy Dragon will repeat its countdown between every Disaster Air
--Apparently you can get two Hellray Harpie Demons on wave 8, this kind of scared me because almost my entire team was Dark in some way
--Athena will stay Wood if you purposely heal her back up to above half health, but she'll switch back to Shining Spear instead of Storm Punisher
--Hera-Sowilo combines the notes on THD and Athena, and in addition, she *will* use the absorption skill again if you're not dead after Shining Death Queen's Judgment
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Because gold dragons don't appear anywhere near as often as metal ones do.
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/VJFC2pql.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/VJFC2pq.jpg)
Things I've confirmed via SCIENCE:
--Tornado Holy Dragon will repeat its countdown between every Disaster Air
--Apparently you can get two Hellray Harpie Demons on wave 8, this kind of scared me because almost my entire team was Dark in some way
--Athena will stay Wood if you purposely heal her back up to above half health, but she'll switch back to Shining Spear instead of Storm Punisher
--Hera-Sowilo combines the notes on THD and Athena, and in addition, she *will* use the absorption skill again if you're not dead after Shining Death Queen's Judgment
Yeah, I got "the end is neigh", then screwed up the combo. She absorbed enough to not oneshot me. I was pretty happy about that.
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Augh I hate Swole Hera's dungeon, it's exhausting and not fun. I usually actually like the gameplay in PAD but this sucks.
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THAT MAKES IT SO UNFAIR THAT ALL THE OTHER VERSIONS OF HER HAVE ROW ENHANCE
not that one row enhance matters BUT STILL
One row enhance means a hell of a lot actually. It qualifies you to -be- on row teams in the first place- and for most of the valks this actually gives them places they'd never have originally.
Black valk for example, is now probably better on Pandora than Vampire, stats be damned, just because of it.
Blue valk's row is just a buff to blue healer, but absurdly welcome given her mainstay place on it.
And while one row leaders aren't great, it's the start of even -allowing- you to build a row team. So Red valk's has her looking at picking up some red healers with rows for a fun time.
Light valk getting shafted is probably because she's farmable, though god fucking knows she's the one who needs it the most.
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I was gonna say. Recent jp videos featuring row/prong teams still go out of their way to make a 4x match somewhere
Also here have paprika wrecking the hera rush with OTG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmaKrjBwDC0)
How can I get good like this guy? :V
Why even bother with subs with those multipliers
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How can I get good like this guy? :V
Why even bother with subs with those multipliers
sell your soul to satan
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Nah
The devil goes to paprika for pad tips
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The reason that Light Valk doesn't have a row enhance is clearly because BT Valkyrie stole it from her. If we want that row enhance heart breaker, we gotta REM it up!
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oh yeah god rush maybe i'll give it a sho-
>99 stam
okay fuck that
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I spent all day trying to get a dub-mythlit. Finally got one, evolved my second ronia, and now she's level 87 <_<
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Should have done the triangles method of Friday farming - I came out of there with a dubmythlit each time and whoa I actually got an Angelit today
4 Devilits though ;___;
I've stockpiled so many dubmyths and Devilits in my ~Quest for Angelits~ I'm feeding them to my stupid noel dragons at this point it's ridiculous.
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Yo guys get hype BATMAN'S COMING BACK
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meh. I suppose I can skill up Ra so he'll be worth something.
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HERA-IS GET
YAAAAAY
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What do you think, Tower Of Jewels or Ocean Of Heaven for my farming today? I think Tower Of Jewels might actually be more dangerous, since I can't handle an early Super King appearance. I'm leaning toward Ocean Of Heaven since the experience will let me do more runs which should let me overcome the slightly lower + rate, but I don't have much experience with Tower so maybe I'm underestimating how good the loot there is.
Yo guys get hype BATMAN'S COMING BACK
Oh cool, I kind of want a Bane for novelty purposes and this gives me more hope for Eva I will never stop bringing that up.
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Tower of Jewels looks decent so far. Had two dubmyth appearances in one run but neither dropped.
I must also be doing something wrong because my will-o-wisp team cleared it but only got 183k points. Maybe I should use a not uvo Leilan?
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oh man Hera-Is is actually pretty easy now with Isis
how things have changed :derp:
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oh man Hera-Is is actually pretty easy now with Isis
how things have changed :derp:
I remember when you blew like 10 stones for it to not drop. Good times. I blew 5 or 6 for mine.
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I remember when you blew like 10 stones for it to not drop. Good times. I blew 5 or 6 for mine.
yep
good times
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(http://i.imgur.com/2GgJRIe.png)
aw yiss we two prong now
also finally a use for all these tamadra
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(http://i.imgur.com/2GgJRIe.png)
aw yiss we two prong now
also finally a use for all these tamadra
gungho plz give lucifer 2 two-prong and l/d typing with 3x attack for all ladies for athena harem team plz
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www.puzzledragonx.com/en/simulator.asp?q=1299.99.1.99.99.99.4..1423.99.0.99.99.99.8..1423.99.0.99.99.99.8..1423.99.0.99.99.99.8..1423.99.0.99.99.99.8..1299.99.1.99.99.99.4
everyone go home i just created the best team ever
immortality burst team
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PSA: Tower of Jewel with x2 = insane +egg drop rate right now
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You aren't kidding
(http://i.imgur.com/xS6zB4a.jpg)
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PSA: Tower of Jewel with x2 = insane +egg drop rate right now
i stoned for it
i leveled up 69 stam early like a derp, and got no plus eggs for my trouble
whoops
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I got one plus egg out of tower of jewel, which I lost because I was score attacking and dropped a combo and died at the end
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i got two plus eggs before i realized i had to farm OoH for mystic masks.
damn son can we have this dungeon forever
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I ran tower of jewels a lot, and I mean a lot.
I mean "enough to get a Moonlight Carbuncle, get him to level 41 and max skilled + awoken" kind of a lot. Enough for 4 Dubmyths and 15 plus eggs, even.
I did stone for stamina 3 times and got 2 level up refills though, because plus eggs.
But that's fine because my Horus has finally reached the +100 mark :3
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i've gotten like 45-50 plus eggs today
my main team has finally hit the 20k hp mark BV
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i've gotten like 45-50 plus eggs today
my main team has finally hit the 20k hp mark BV
stole everyone's plus eggs
destroy suikama 2011
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I've been wondering if any of you all need to do higher level team challenges. Should I put my +100 King Shynee up in my second leader slot or keep it as my maxed Valk?
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I didn't bundle my +eggs correctly, so now if I feed them to Kirin, I'll go over the limit for health. Now that set me 31 +eggs behind. Do people use healer for higher level team challenges? I thought that was mostly Anubis territory.
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PSA: Tower of Jewel with x2 = insane +egg drop rate right now
i've gotten like 45-50 plus eggs today
my main team has finally hit the 20k hp mark BV
stole everyone's plus eggs
destroy suikama 2011
<Chirei> chaore we have been betrayed by captain falcon
<Chirei> either that or he made off with all the plus eggs
<Chaore> oh shit what happened
<Chirei> getting no more out of these runs
I made out with a measly 5. Oh well.
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I got two out of 4 runs of Jewels when it wasn't double drop for some reason though.
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So just posting this here as a heads-up.
(http://i.imgur.com/ej6iMCa.png)
There is actually something there, even though it looks like a blank space. Clicking it takes you to information on a dungeon called Starry View Lane. It seems to have a bunch of goblins, chimeras, and the boss seems to net you an evo'd chimera. Good for skilling up starter dragons I guess?
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It's the latest Guerrilla Dungeon, supposedly it's for goblin/chimera related skillups, also apparently the +Egg rate is pretty big, judging from the comments.
Also, does anybody here have Uvo GOdin? Not for now, but if anybody does it will make my eventual life with Hera Descended so much simpler once she rolls around.
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So just posting this here as a heads-up.
(http://i.imgur.com/ej6iMCa.png)
There is actually something there, even though it looks like a blank space. Clicking it takes you to information on a dungeon called Starry View Lane. It seems to have a bunch of goblins, chimeras, and the boss seems to net you an evo'd chimera. Good for skilling up starter dragons I guess?
That dungeon has increased +eggs probability. It might not be the most stamina efficient dungeon to farm +eggs but it's definitely the most time efficient method.
Edit: Ninja'd :V Anyways,
http://zh.pad.wikia.com/wiki/%E6%98%9F%E5%AE%9D%E3%81%AE%E9%81%BA%E8%B7%A1
The Chinese wikia estimates the +egg ratio to be around one-third so you'd usually get 1~2 +eggs per run
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So what's worth keeping out of the Batman dungeon? Is anything good for low-cost descends or anything?
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I... guess deathstroke is okay? He has BOdin's skill and a pseudo-Chinese God leader skill. Decent if you don't have either of those.
Also Grundy is basically an Ogre but with a better leader skill and a double attack stance.
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Bane is good for killing super kings and such
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The obvious answer is "keep them all as trophies". :colbert:
Gotta catch them all.
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[22:14:28] <ArashiKurobara> https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/491405430120120320/photo/1 =O
[22:14:37] <ArashiKurobara> I NEED ONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[22:16:22] <rdj522> oh man Gabriel
[22:17:17] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> CALLED IT
[22:17:20] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I FUCKING CALLED IT
omg omg omg so pretty I hope he's good
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That... doesn't look like a Physical-Sub Type to me.
GungHo, please. Don't you dare give Raphael anything that's not a Healer Sub-type.
Please.
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That... doesn't look like a Physical-Sub Type to me.
GungHo, please. Don't you dare give Raphael anything that's not a Healer Sub-type.
Please.
THE FLOWERS ARE ACTUALLY DRAGONS
PREPARE FOR BLUE DRAGON META
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THE FLOWERS ARE ACTUALLY DRAGONS
PREPARE FOR BLUE DRAGON META
(http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_1473.jpg)
IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING
@Edit
So I just went a run of Thief Descended, I didn't expect to actually get anywhere, tbh but considering I did get to Goemon (But immediately died to Ninja Fireworks) is certainly telling.
I'm not too particularly interested in Goemon considering that the only way he'll ever be useful in my team is if I max-skill him, so until I can reliably no-stone mythical (Which will be a while, to say the least) I don't think I'll be using him on my monored, and by then I'll have something much stronger to use :V
(Plus, Goemon Teams are a lot better than my monored anyway.)
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I have acquired bane after 6 runs of batman expert
I can now proceed to no longer care about the collab dungeon
...except for the fact that copperhead is a lilith skillup :ohdear:
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okay that's not the batman i want
i want the D/W one please
not D/D
please gungho
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Anyone have Awoken Odin or his Ult Evo? Can you guys set it as your leader so I could use it for today's Tuesday Dungeon. Thanks~
It takes approx. 20 mins for me to finish it with an Ogre and a healer sub. It takes quite some time...
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Ultimate Raphael manages to be even more of a Gundam than before. (http://i.imgur.com/itOVmVJ.jpg)
Judging by the artworks, Raphael got the Physical subtype while Gabriel got the Healer subtype.
I'm gonna be really sad if Raphael isn't a Healer on his uvo, like really sad.
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I'm on the Japanese servers of Pazudora, though I just started a couple of days ago.
There's an event running where you can get this Golden King Dragon once each day... That's going to be helpful for me, since each one gives 50000 EXP... Wow.
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Ult Odin get. *___________*
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I'm on the Japanese servers of Pazudora, though I just started a couple of days ago.
There's an event running where you can get this Golden King Dragon once each day... That's going to be helpful for me, since each one gives 50000 EXP... Wow.
That's only on the HK/Taiwan version which shares the servers with Japanese version, since it's for celebrating PAD being voted the best mobile game on a Taiwan forum.
The main attraction for most people would be the stone you get from that dungeon everyday though.
You would have had missed out on PADW delay compensations on Japan version if you started playing earlier on the HK/Taiwan ver, but that one already ended so it doesn't matter.
If you decide to continue on the HK/Taiwan version, you may miss out some of the collab dungeons due to copyrights (e.g. HK/Taiwan didn't get DBZ, etc, instead they'd revive dungeons like questionnaire dungeons, vampire dungeons which are very helpful for newcomers), but I believe transferring account between HK/Taiwan and Japanese version is incredibly easy so you can switch around to get the best of both worlds. (I haven't done it before so I'm not sure though.)
I play on the Jap servers too and my id is 175 462 292
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I need more Keeper Of The Rainbow but I hate running this dungeon without double drops. 30 stamina is a lot to waste on a relatively small chance to get one. Although Evo Materials Unite is up tomorrow, which I guess I'm up to run for the stone and plant dragons, so maybe between one run of Tuesday Dungeon and one of that I can grab one. If not, Echidna stays un-Uvoed for another week, which honestly doesn't matter that much.
Any guesses as to when Scarlet Snake Princess or Poring Tower will be up again (I'm assuming quite a long time for Poring Tower)? Skillmaxing Echidna and Valkyrie seems like it would be a big deal for my team right now. And Archangel too to a much lesser extent, if we ever get any skill fodder for her here.
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Looking at the history, Scarlet Snake Princess seems to run once every 2-4 months or so.
Poring Tower seems to used to have been once per month, but since September of last year, it's run once every 4-5 months because GungHo NA sucks and hates us all.
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That's only on the HK/Taiwan version which shares the servers with Japanese version, since it's for celebrating PAD being voted the best mobile game on a Taiwan forum.
The main attraction for most people would be the stone you get from that dungeon everyday though.
You would have had missed out on PADW delay compensations on Japan version if you started playing earlier on the HK/Taiwan ver, but that one already ended so it doesn't matter.
If you decide to continue on the HK/Taiwan version, you may miss out some of the collab dungeons due to copyrights (e.g. HK/Taiwan didn't get DBZ, etc, instead they'd revive dungeons like questionnaire dungeons, vampire dungeons which are very helpful for newcomers), but I believe transferring account between HK/Taiwan and Japanese version is incredibly easy so you can switch around to get the best of both worlds. (I haven't done it before so I'm not sure though.)
I play on the Jap servers too and my id is 175 462 292
See, this is what I would have liked to have been told when I was asked what the differences between HK/Taiwan and JP versions would be, I am too lazy to switch though I would just play casually.
For the record, my IGN is syurelya and my ID is 201,267,866
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Goemon
He's pretty cool on a monored team - I don't use him all the time but if you're in a place you can stall for the nuke it's mighty helpful and mine isn't skilled at all. I wound up using some cobbled together quasi tank team, I think it was something ridiculous like Ares/Siren/Amon/Hera/RK/Luci buddy back in November and was able to zero stone the lower level. If you can grab him without stoning I'd recommend it, he's a good sub to be able to switch to if the situation requires.
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Why don't people talk about Ice Crystal Dragon more? I have been getting loads of plus eggs from it, seemingly as many as I get from Ocean Of Heaven on 1.5x drops. I got two each on my last two runs, and the experience rate is slightly better for a slightly easier (at least, for me) dungeon. I guess the gold rate it worse and you can't get Mystic Masks, but I don't want any more Mystic Masks. Am I just getting crazy lucky with the plus eggs, or has anyone else farmed it a lot and had similar or different results?
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Why don't people talk about Ice Crystal Dragon more? I have been getting loads of plus eggs from it, seemingly as many as I get from Ocean Of Heaven on 1.5x drops.
The dungeons after OOH are all pretty decent. I farm the first levels instead of the last one though for ease of clearing and more XP/stam. I hit specific ones at 1.5x times to feed the corresponding element mons that need feeding, as they're also good exp.
Also dublits.
EDIT: 2 plus eggs out of 4 runs of 1.5x mars crater so far
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Why don't people talk about Ice Crystal Dragon more? I have been getting loads of plus eggs from it, seemingly as many as I get from Ocean Of Heaven on 1.5x drops. I got two each on my last two runs, and the experience rate is slightly better for a slightly easier (at least, for me) dungeon. I guess the gold rate it worse and you can't get Mystic Masks, but I don't want any more Mystic Masks. Am I just getting crazy lucky with the plus eggs, or has anyone else farmed it a lot and had similar or different results?
I think the Oceanus is more efficient and gives more +eggs since there are less boss floors.
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The last floor of Mars Crater wrecks my shit right now. I've been stuck on it for like ten days. The huge HP, Valkyrie-resisting dragons that can one-shot me are too much for my team. I try every couple of days and can usually almost clear the ninth floor before I die. I think a decent red Valkyrie friend would do it, but I've consistently failed to find one.
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Ultimate Raphael manages to be even more of a Gundam than before. (http://i.imgur.com/itOVmVJ.jpg)
Judging by the artworks, Raphael got the Physical subtype while Gabriel got the Healer subtype.
I'm gonna be really sad if Raphael isn't a Healer on his uvo, like really sad.
Physical would be better for Raphael, since Light healer is pretty much god damn dead and has no good row teams.
Mind, neither does physical TOO much but better build for it. There's even a heartbreaker! ;v
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Physical would be better for Raphael, since Light healer is pretty much god damn dead and has no good row teams.
Mind, neither does physical TOO much but better build for it. There's even a heartbreaker! ;v
I was hoping for healer with a blue sub-type and row boost :(
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I was hoping for healer with a blue sub-type and row boost :(
Physical can atleast use Thor however, which makes it extremely less pathetic, and has stronger and more useful leads overall. There's even a light physical heartbreaker with a row, unlike valk, that Raphael can combo with. Also it has the ninja.
Healer doesn't really have anything really great for Raphael to play with, and slotting Valk lowers your already pathetic row count because 'hahaha light/blue rows is cool on a leader right?' Light healer is dead, etc- Two-prong probably won't save it but I haven't checked.
Mind you, the real dream for light would be Thor going Attacker on his new ulti.
or l/d attacker two-prong lucifer come on gungho make him worth something again PLEASE jesus fuck
Edit: and by more useful leads i mostly mean tamadrapurin can solo like everyone except maybe DQXQ but she's probably better not building as a healer.
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As far as light healers go, Venus and Light Zhuge Liang have two-prong, and that's it.
Unless we get a Light/Blue Healer Ronia, light row enhance is never going to be a thing anyway.
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As far as light healers go, Venus and Light Zhuge Liang have two-prong, and that's it.
Unless we get a Light/Blue Healer Ronia, light row enhance is never going to be a thing anyway.
Sonia would be one light row. This would fix nothing.
Sonia's bigger strength is skill boost than sheer row. Also her active being broken.
Also it'd be L/D.
Edit: Also she should be attacker.
NuThor(prediction)/Belial/Arthur/Athena/Lonia/NuThor. 8 rows, Sonia active, orb enhance and norse enhance. Also too much skill boost.
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Physical can atleast use Thor however, which makes it extremely less pathetic, and has stronger and more useful leads overall. There's even a light physical heartbreaker with a row, unlike valk, that Raphael can combo with. Also it has the ninja.
Healer doesn't really have anything really great for Raphael to play with, and slotting Valk lowers your already pathetic row count because 'hahaha light/blue rows is cool on a leader right?' Light healer is dead, etc- Two-prong probably won't save it but I haven't checked.
Mind you, the real dream for light would be Thor going Attacker on his new ulti.
or l/d attacker two-prong lucifer come on gungho make him worth something again PLEASE jesus fuck
Edit: and by more useful leads i mostly mean tamadrapurin can solo like everyone except maybe DQXQ but she's probably better not building as a healer.
You seem to be assuming I want light row team with him. I just want an I&I sub because I have Siren and that's it. It would be nice if I didn't need to a completely REM team to use Raph too. Partricia and Valkytie is part of the battle tournament collab though. Should we take that in to consideration? Not that we won't ever get it, we don't really have a time for it either.
Sonia would be one light row. This would fix nothing.
Sonia's bigger strength is skill boost than sheer row. Also her active being broken.
Also it'd be L/D.
Edit: Also she should be attacker.
NuThor(prediction)/Belial/Arthur/Athena/Lonia/NuThor. 8 rows, Sonia active, orb enhance and norse enhance. Also too much skill boost.
There's also the chance that Light Sonia, should she ever exist could be god type instead. .That's a thing too.
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There's also the chance that Light Sonia, should she ever exist could be god type instead. .That's a thing too.
Dragon God Light Sonia already exists, it's called avalon drake :V
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Dragon God Light Sonia already exists, it's called avalon drake :V
AD doesn't count. He's not dark and he doesn't have any light rows.
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You seem to be assuming I want light row team with him. I just want an I&I sub because I have Siren and that's it. It would be nice if I didn't need to a completely REM team to use Raph too. Partricia and Valkytie is part of the battle tournament collab though. Should we take that in to consideration? Not that we won't ever get it, we don't really have a time for it either.
I hate to break it to you, but row teams have always and probably essentially always will be mostly REM, and that's the god damn future now.
...also light row is what he HAS. He's not going to get a new awakening since none of the other angels have, especially not the one that desperately needed it.
also that sounds ridiculously awful, jesus. Especially since Siren is likely to be replaced by Gabriel now, and while he might have beaten siren out do to how silly a full board might be that... He's much better as light physical by far, especially if you only have siren, what.
Also no because whether or not we'll ever get that does not factor into the overwhelming meta, ultimately, and collab monsters definitely are included in the meta.
Light sonia being god would be pretty sad, but see edible. It'd be strange to flat out obsolete Avalon drake and not do something new.
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Physical would be better for Raphael, since Light healer is pretty much god damn dead and has no good row teams.
Mind, neither does physical TOO much but better build for it. There's even a heartbreaker! ;v
My problem is more of the fact that Raphael is the Archangel of HEALING, and even his active skill (Miracle of Healing) reflects this, plus it would essentially kill everything I've been working on to get a valk to work him into a valk team.
I mean, if he does get physical I have no clue what kind of team to build for him and he'll just be sitting on my monsterbox forever.
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My problem is more of the fact that Raphael is the Archangel of HEALING, and even his active skill (Miracle of Healing) reflects this, plus it would essentially kill everything I've been working on to get a valk to work him into a valk team.
I mean, if he does get physical I have no clue what kind of team to build for him and he'll just be sitting on my monsterbox forever.
Noah is an anime girl.
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And Metatron has sex hair, yes I know. ):
Also, confirmed new dragon-type monster. (http://imgur.com/gxer0QA)
Yes that is a joke.
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I mean, if he does get physical I have no clue what kind of team to build for him and he'll just be sitting on my monsterbox forever.
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,16767.msg1104944.html#msg1104944
I didn't go in depth into how amazing Raphael is here for nothin'.
Even if he doesn't get healer, there are still possibilities, trust me.
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I'd be pretty hype about Physical Raphael as someone who wants to use Takeminakata/TAMADRApurin/Sakuya/BT Valkyrie/Raphael eventually.
Of course, that requires me to get a Raphael...
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Well, if he does get Physical Sub-type then I guess I can work with the Siegfried team (Since I already have him thanks to Horus Shenanigans) though getting the fruit dragon is going to be a bit of a pain (wouldn't it be counter-productive though, since the fruit dragons have no sub-type?).
Also, the mystical beasts (Kraken, Unicorn etc) are farmable? Descend-Only I assume?
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They show up rarely in the PEM, and in the occasional biweekly-dragon dungeon. I got a Cerberus from skilling up Caol-Ila, I think?
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Healer Raph confirmed.
Rest in god damn pieces, though admittedly a bone for light healer since he works with valk.
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See, this is what I would have liked to have been told when I was asked what the differences between HK/Taiwan and JP versions would be, I am too lazy to switch though I would just play casually.
For the record, my IGN is syurelya and my ID is 201,267,866
I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.
Healer Raph confirmed.
Rest in god damn pieces, though admittedly a bone for light healer since he works with valk.
Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.
I could care less about Raph though because GABRIEL got healer yesssss
I've already gotten water valk, Sun Quan, Gabriel, Siren, so my water healer team is so complete now the only thing I lack is I&I themselves damnit :V why won't you give me one, REM?
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I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.
Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.
I could care less about Raph though because GABRIEL got healer yesssss
I've already gotten water valk, Sun Quan, Gabriel, Siren, so my water healer team is so complete now the only thing I lack is I&I themselves damnit :V why won't you give me one, REM?
Jesus, pretty good set. Hatsume and I&I and you're rolling in the deep.
Light Zhuge would work yes. I mean lets be honest, Raph+Valk on 16x will do a shit ton of damage with a shynee. I just....would've much preferred it on a team that had a bit more going for it, tbh.
Who knows, Maybe it'll put light healer slightly on the map. Raph has angelits after all? How low does that cooldown go?
>16 turns.
oh. Welp. Atleast zhuge's LS makes stalling easy ahahahaha
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Healer Raph confirmed.
Rest in god damn pieces, though admittedly a bone for light healer since he works with valk.
Well, at least this way I put him in an easy mode Hera-farm team. Though I probably don't need him for that.
I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.
Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.
I could care less about Raph though because GABRIEL got healer yesssss
I've already gotten water valk, Sun Quan, Gabriel, Siren, so my water healer team is so complete now the only thing I lack is I&I themselves damnit :V why won't you give me one, REM?
I should probably add you too. My IGN is strawberry. I don't know to feel about Gabby. I was hoping for Physical. I'm the opposite, the only member I have is I&I. I rolled last fest hoping for Hatsume, but I only got Hanzo instead :( Between Hanzo and Arthur, is a Lilith team worth looking in to? Maybe throw in a Tiamat.
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Jesus, pretty good set. Hatsume and I&I and you're rolling in the deep.
Light Zhuge would work yes. I mean lets be honest, Raph+Valk on 16x will do a shit ton of damage with a shynee. I just....would've much preferred it on a team that had a bit more going for it, tbh.
Who knows, Maybe it'll put light healer slightly on the map. Raph has angelits after all? How low does that cooldown go?
>16 turns.
oh. Welp. Atleast zhuge's LS makes stalling easy ahahahaha
Off the top of my head, Zhuge's the only full-hp 4x leader that doesn't have a active skill that helps him recover to full health? They just released Yatagarasu, a skill up for Amaterasu, so a maxed skilled amaterasu might be great for that team, but Yatagarasu is PEM-only so good luck skill up-ing 10 times haha :V
I think I can live without Hatsume since Gabriel also changes Dark orbs away for me, though having another 5-turn orb changer besides valk would be really nice.
I should probably add you too. My IGN is strawberry. I don't know to feel about Gabby. I was hoping for Physical. I'm the opposite, the only member I have is I&I. I rolled last fest hoping for Hatsume, but I only got Hanzo instead :( Between Hanzo and Arthur, is a Lilith team worth looking in to? Maybe throw in a Tiamat.
What are you talking about you've already added me :getdown:
Hanzo's a great roll that's useful in many dark teams, essential in Pandora teams as a 5-turn orb changer, pairs well with Haku (as team member) and Ares, and of course the best orb changer for dark attackers. It's also easy to skill up. Wish I had one :/ *Stares at two max skilled Hamahimes in my BOX*
Lilith teams are basically a poor man's DMeta team but it should still be decent, with enough row enhances any team becomes stupidly strong anyways, so having 3x instead of DMeta's 4x doesn't matter much at the boss :V On the other hand, you don't have to worry about health management and also don't have trouble dealing with descents where the first battle OHKO's you with ridiculous damage in like 3 turns.
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I just added you, my IGN is シーエム.
Uh, maybe it'd work with Light Zhuge Liang team, since he has Light/Blue orb enhance itself and thus would work well with Raph+Valk combo.
I've accepted your request; sorry I didn't get it earlier I'm busy with email-sending :V
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> Raphael requires Golden Keeper.
Oh, good, my Golden Keeper now has an use :V
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Off the top of my head, Zhuge's the only full-hp 4x leader that doesn't have a active skill that helps him recover to full health? They just released Yatagarasu, a skill up for Amaterasu, so a maxed skilled amaterasu might be great for that team, but Yatagarasu is PEM-only so good luck skill up-ing 10 times haha :V
I think I can live without Hatsume since Gabriel also changes Dark orbs away for me, though having another 5-turn orb changer besides valk would be really nice.
What are you talking about you've already added me :getdown:
Hanzo's a great roll that's useful in many dark teams, essential in Pandora teams as a 5-turn orb changer, pairs well with Haku (as team member) and Ares, and of course the best orb changer for dark attackers. It's also easy to skill up. Wish I had one :/ *Stares at two max skilled Hamahimes in my BOX*
Lilith teams are basically a poor man's DMeta team but it should still be decent, with enough row enhances any team becomes stupidly strong anyways, so having 3x instead of DMeta's 4x doesn't matter much at the boss :V On the other hand, you don't have to worry about health management and also don't have trouble dealing with descents where the first battle OHKO's you with ridiculous damage in like 3 turns.
Was mainly talking to Trance about the friend request thing. Ooops.
As for Hanzo, the only dark team I use right now is Satan. Though, if I got Ookuni off the ground, he could have a spot there with Haku and Duke.
Btw, what's Raph's new leader skill? I'm assuming it fits the other 3 archangels, but not sure.
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Was mainly talking to Trance about the friend request thing. Ooops.
Oh. You quoted me so I got confused :V
Btw, what's Raph's new leader skill? I'm assuming it fits the other 3 archangels, but not sure.
Yep, Raph's LS is basically the same thing but for light monsters. They sure is liking this new 2/1.35/2 ratio for buffing things.
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Off the top of my head, Zhuge's the only full-hp 4x leader that doesn't have a active skill that helps him recover to full health? They just released Yatagarasu, a skill up for Amaterasu, so a maxed skilled amaterasu might be great for that team, but Yatagarasu is PEM-only so good luck skill up-ing 10 times haha :V
I think I can live without Hatsume since Gabriel also changes Dark orbs away for me, though having another 5-turn orb changer besides valk would be really nice.
Probably. Hatsume is great for a constant supply so you don't run out though- Just valk alone isn't enough sometimes. :firstrowldproblems:
Mostly, good subs with rows, though. Really important.
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Probably. Hatsume is great for a constant supply so you don't run out though- Just valk alone isn't enough sometimes. :firstrowldproblems:
Mostly, good subs with rows, though. Really important.
That's true, but until I roll I&I all these subs are just rotting in my box. orz I even have Gab and Sun Quan already skilled up. If only Sun Quan's LS wasn't so useless.
With all these Norse ultimate evolutions coming out I hope they're in the next godfes.
Edit: 4 runs of Masks Legend and they all drop Ancient Green Sacred Mask!? Are you kidding me? Went ahead for 7 rolls on the PEM and another Ancient Green Mask came out. Guess no Ultimate Gabriel for me this week. Seriously, I just needed one more Blue Mask what the hell.
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i still dont care about raph because his active is too slow
also because i just 0 stoned Satan with Isis BV BV BV
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Amazing. I just got a 2x experience fusion with a maxed snow globe dragon on Valkyrie. She went from 2.5 million to maxed instantly. So good.
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technically that was a complete was of a 2x because it would have maxed even with a 1x :derp:
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i still dont care about raph because his active is too slow
SO SKILL IT UP
WITH ANGELITS
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16 TURNS STILL TOO SLOW
DESCENDS ARE ONLY 5 ROOMS LONG
WHO HAS TIME FOR STALLING
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technically that was a complete was of a 2x because it would have maxed even with a 1x :derp:
Naw, it was off-color. She would've had half a million to. Not a complete waste, although it still overshot by some. I also overfed the snow globe because I thought they maxed at 70, so I gave it two Amethyst Pengdras to get it from the last few points of 48 to 50. On the plus side, this means the white present egg that I meant to evolve when I made this one is still intact to feed to Archangel later.
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heads up, apparently x2 skillup is happening briefly in like 8 hours or so
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heads up, apparently x2 skillup is happening briefly in like 8 hours or so
Oh good, I can use the zero deathstrokes I've been able to get so far on my blodin ;_;
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My box is starting to get backed up with possibly interesting things that I've gotten from various places. I could expand it some more, but if any of this is overtly junk I should throw it away. What do you guys think of these:
Strawberry Dragon
Titan
Lil' Red Dragon
Will-O-Wisp
Kelpie
Lil' Green Dragon
Lil' White Dragon
Are the resist dragons worth the effort? What kinds of teams would Titan go on? I've seen people mentioning corner-case uses for the Fey series monsters, but are they actually worth keeping for those circumstances?
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Hang onto strawberry and titan, everything else is fodder.
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Eh. I think the little dragons can still be useful. The evolution materials aren't too hard to get and fully evolving it is still less than evolving a god. Their stats are decent early on and they change colors rarely touched by other orb changers.
As for the Fey series, people like to use them for cheesing dungeons for free tamas. You can keep it for that, but don't feel bad about feeding them off. They give decent xp.
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Regarding little dragons, if you can bite the rather long cooldowns, they do have almost unique orb conversions. Generate Earth Dragon, for example, converts dark > green, which has enough use for a Gonia team.
One of my friends scored both a Melon Dragon and a Gonia, so of course I have to wonder what a team of
Gonia/Generate Earth Dragon/Ultimate Canopus/Melon Dragon/Draggie!
Stalling isn't an issue because recovery, and with another Gonia lead that's 8(!) skill boosts.
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Left as an exercise for the reader.....
Genbu invade + skill lock + no RCV dungeon + HP conditional leader = ?
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lmeta life is eternal suffering
lmeta is meguka
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Genbu invade + skill lock + no RCV dungeon + HP conditional leader = ?
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eyyyy light healer, ba, ba, ba ba.
(Now imagine doing it with Zhuge!)
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The run was going great until then!
I might try again with either B/L Isis who is only lvl 89 or something or my un ulted Horus or ??? because I don't even really need a Satan but I also don't want to risk another uncontrollable hopeless FUCK YOU again
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I did Satan twice hoping for an invade. I didn't get one, but I'm not sure if I'd be able to take 2 million on a non-dark while skillbound.
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oh god they made an Isis boss and she skill binds you
I don't know how I feel about this
also why is Horus/bastet/Anubis not in this
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also why is Horus/bastet/Anubis not in this
I don't know about horus/anubis, but as for Bastet gungho forgot she exists ;_;
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I don't know about horus/anubis, but as for Bastet gungho forgot she exists ;_;
Shouldn't that be reversed?
All of the egyptians except Isis are basically no longer worth noting, and I expect gungho knows that.
Why do you think Lucifer wasn't in sandalphon?
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Shouldn't that be reversed?
Only egyptian with one ult evo instead of two, lowest multiplier of all egyptians, etc
Lucifer wasn't in sandalphon because he's lucifer, what would he be doing in heaven :V
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i guess technically Horus is in the dungeon since he's with isis :v
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Think we'll ever see any special gods appear in the dungeons. Thinking about it, we could use another Norse dungeon.
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inb4 lu bu dungeon where he hits you for a 50k preemptive because you tried to pursue him
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Only egyptian with one ult evo instead of two, lowest multiplier of all egyptians, etc
Lucifer wasn't in sandalphon because he's lucifer, what would he be doing in heaven :V
To be fair Lucifer was an angel in heaven at one point and even if D/L luci is dark nevertheless it's pretty clear that Seraph of Dawn Lucifer is the "good" lucifer before he fell or something
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Only egyptian with one ult evo instead of two, lowest multiplier of all egyptians, etc
Lucifer wasn't in sandalphon because he's lucifer, what would he be doing in heaven :V
See the thing about having one ultimate.
She doesn't need to get angelits to have a better leader skill.
Her multiplier is actually fine, and increasing it would kinda destroy the balance the combo-based gods have. Unless Oku/Kushi come out with changes on their ultis, it'd be impossible. And if they do and bastet gets nothing, then you can cry foul.
She's really fine, and straight up the second most relevant egyptian monster despite how kinda bad combo gods are.
Meanwhile, Horus has kind of gotten completely shit over at this point. Despite having two ultimates.
If you even want to go on this I'll be happy to list PLENTY of monsters who need a 'second ultimate' more than bastet, to be perfectly fuckin' blunt.
To be fair Lucifer was an angel in heaven at one point and even if D/L luci is dark nevertheless it's pretty clear that Seraph of Dawn Lucifer is the "good" lucifer before he fell or something
Also in one, 'REBEL SERAPH' (edgemeter blares) or not, It's pre-fall lucifer. That isn't a really good reason except the distilled bile the entire fandom and gungho itself kind of heaves.
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Bastet fanatic here :V
What Bastet needs isn't a change in the Leader Skill but an extra effect to go along with her active, even something like a small 20% damage reduction would be amazing (because a maxed skilled Bastet Leader with frd can keep that on forever). I mean sure they make double bosses every now and then to kind of say "Here this dungeon is where you can utilize Spreadcat lolz", but it's not a problem for 2-prongs and row teams anyways so there's no advantage with using Bastet at all, also I have no idea why most dungeons only have their first battle have more than one monster where you can spreadcat but your spreadcat isn't even ready unless you have 6 Skill boosts. (To name a few off the top of my head, Sandalphon, Beelzebub, Fire Zeus)
She is still very usable and can clear new descents without much trouble (except Fire Zeus, arg still can't figure out how to do that with Bastet so many freakin Fire monsters in there), if anything, Isis seriously needs a boost because I was helping a friend clear Sopdet with her Isis team and I was like "What the heck 6 colours and still so little damage"? The only reason she's not popular right now (same for other combo leaders) is that people are obsessed with rows :V (Bastet actually has a row enhance herself and a green row enhance team with Bastet kinda works lol because you can make 6~7 combos theoretically with 3 rows when you have 18-20 green orbs so you'd still have 12.25~16x atk)
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Bastet Fanatic here :V
What Bastet needs isn't a change in the Leader Skill but an extra effect to go along with her active, even something like a small 20% damage reduction would be amazing (because a maxed skilled Bastet Leader with frd can keep that on forever). I mean sure they make double bosses every now and then to kind of say "Here this dungeon is where you can utilize Spreadcat lolz", but it's not a problem for 2-prongs and row teams anyways so there's no advantage with using Bastet at all, also I have no idea why most dungeons only have their first battle have more than one monster where you can spreadcat but your spreadcat isn't even ready unless you have 6 Skill boosts. (To name a few off the top of my head, Sandalphon, Beelzebub, Fire Zeus)
She is still very usable and can clear new descents without much trouble (except Fire Zeus, arg still can't figure out how to do that with Bastet so many freakin Fire monsters in there), if anything, Isis seriously needs a boost because I was helping a friend clear Sopdet with her Isis team and I was like "What the heck 6 colours and still so little damage"? The only reason she's not popular right now (same for other combo leaders) is that people are obsessed with rows :V (Bastet actually has a row enhance herself and a green row enhance team with Bastet kinda works lol because you can make 6~7 combos theoretically with 3 rows when you have 18-20 green orbs so you'd still have 12.25~16x atk)
plz no, isis is already pretty ridiculous
don't like actually make her stronger oh my god
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yes pls make her stronger
make her stronger than kirin muhahahahahahaha
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yes pls make her stronger
make her stronger than kirin muhahahahahahaha
PLEASE NO
SHE'LL STEP ON ME ;w;
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Speaking of, Suikamersss your swole Isis allowed me to no-stone Satan (no surprise Genbu visit this time around though) hooray! First time using a variable combo team which led to hilarity such as one shotting vamps by accident whoops! I also never actually used CTW in my PAD career before despite a max skilled Yomi so hahaha on bungling how that worked too but it had a happy ending :3
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yes pls make her stronger
make her stronger than kirin muhahahahahahaha
I'll support this, especially if it makes them buff Kirin in response :V
Also, one down, one to go. I want to ult Athena too.
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I'm okay with all of these buffs so long as the Flaming Chicken gets some love too.
Or at least slightly higher RCV, I wouldn't mind having 190 RCV ):
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I'll support this, especially if it makes them buff Kirin in response :V
Also, one down, one to go. I want to ult Athena too.
please NO
I know you're joking but jesus especially not fucking kirin
I'm okay with all of these buffs so long as the Flaming Chicken gets some love too.
Or at least slightly higher RCV, I wouldn't mind having 190 RCV ):
Actually support the hell out of this.
Horus needs a bone right now to all hell. Like, just adding something to his active would be nice. Or changing his weak ass awakening set a bit.
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still man you just got me thinking
give kirin a 2-pronged attack awakening and make a 2-prong kirin team
it'd be glorious
...I should look into this
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lol kirin with two prongs and king bubblie
you could probably put Anubis to shame with that power
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Actually support the hell out of this.
Horus needs a bone right now to all hell. Like, just adding something to his active would be nice. Or changing his weak ass awakening set a bit.
new active: falcon punch
hit one enemy for 999x fire atk, breaks phone screen on kill
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attacker horus for f/l please
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still man you just got me thinking
give kirin a 2-pronged attack awakening and make a 2-prong kirin team
it'd be glorious
...I should look into this
It's called Durga (except she might not have a subtype).
Two-prong is still pretty bad though, especially with multiple colors. One 3 orb match and your boost is gone.
(It's almost like I've been saying this for weeks now, and no ones listened)
lol kirin with two prongs and king bubblie
you could probably put Anubis to shame with that power
Well, It's 107ishx?
It's nothing compared to if you actually gave anubis a slime, and probably beaten out by the sheer combo requirement of anubis tbh it's such a small amount over.
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attacker horus for f/l please
That would make a world of a difference.
Hell, at this point giving F/L Horus +100 HP and +50 RCV would already make a world of a difference, GungHo really need to throw Horus a bone.
I mean, they need to throw a lot of monsters varying amounts of bones (Lucifer, I'm looking at you) but y'know.
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That would make a world of a difference.
Hell, at this point giving F/L Horus +100 HP and +50 RCV would already make a world of a difference, GungHo really need to throw Horus a bone.
I mean, they need to throw a lot of monsters varying amounts of bones (Lucifer, I'm looking at you) but y'know.
They need to rework entire monsters, but their policy on that is so -shitte- that they can't really.
It's pretty awful, Luci is screwed the worse with his middling active as a sub that no doubt SOMEONE would complain about getting changed, that's now completely obsoleted -BY A FARMABLE FUCKING MONSTER-.
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When you guys talk about Lucifer do you mean the angel one or the devil one?
F/L Horus could really use some extra rcv, it was actually at 0 rcv when it first came out and people complained until they gave it back 90 rcv lol. I get that they're trying to differentiate F/F and F/L Horus so that F/F doesn't become obsolete though, but even with the lower rcv I rarely see people prefer F/F if they have the angelit anyways. :V
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When you guys talk about Lucifer do you mean the angel one or the devil one?
Archangel Lucifer used to be the unquestioned #1 leader in the game, then they started designing the game around burst teams instead of stall.
Fallen Angel Lucifer, the dark/dark one, is still really good.
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Archangel Lucifer used to be the unquestioned #1 leader in the game, then they started designing the game around burst teams instead of stall.
Fallen Angel Lucifer, the dark/dark one, is still really good.
Not even just that, they completely fucked him at all opportunities. 'Awakenings? 3 attack is okay, right? Oh, ultimate? Give him an edgy as hell name and a minor attack boost to make stalling on weak enemies a pain in the ass. We need a new descended? HOW ABOUT BETTER LUCIFER WHOS ALSO A FUCKING WAIFU'
i'm not even approaching a quarter of it really but i'm so sick and tired of this entire discussion i just want gungho to not be worthless shits for once and fix it
I mean to put it blunt. The problem isn't just stall for Lucifer. It's that he's been shit over design-wise CONSTANTLY, even as a stall leader. He's a fucking mess, to be completely blunt.
Edit: Also? He's been an absurdly popular pick in several godfests, and fucking placed third on 'who gets the next ultimate' (The more you people use that as a fucking reason his ultimate should suck, the more I want to punt you jesus fuck what is wrong with you.). He is POPULAR, and he's been treated like absurd trash.
Meanwhile Astaroth has been arguably more effective in some circles, but she's under the radar so she's not only gotten an ultimate with a burst and one that keeps her original stall playstyle, but also has amazing awakenings as a sub and better active.
Chew on that.
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Sounds like a problem shared by stall teams in general rather than Lucifer. I'm still wondering if a Gabriel+Lakshmi team that switches into Water Twins Dragon "Burst mode" would ever be useful for something because I always found the leader change concept fun but they had to ruin it with long cooldowns and ridiculous skill up difficulty.
To be fair, Lucifer was still considered the king of stall teams when awakenings came out, and they probably didn't have enough time to plan Luci's ultimate properly because that was from the questionnaire where players got to vote the 3 monsters they wanted ultimates.
At least he still wrecks older descents and is a godsend for new players though.
Noah has much worse rcv than Luci, doesn't she? 0 Rcv herself, and a much lower rcv multiplier.
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Sounds like a problem shared by stall teams in general rather than Lucifer. I'm still wondering if a Gabriel+Lakshmi team that switches into Water Twins Dragon "Burst mode" would ever be useful for something because I always found the leader change concept fun but they had to ruin it with long cooldowns and ridiculous skill up difficulty.
To be fair, Lucifer was still considered the king of stall teams when awakenings came out, and they probably didn't have enough time to plan Luci's ultimate properly because that was from the questionnaire where players got to vote the 3 monsters they wanted ultimates.
At least he still wrecks older descents and is a godsend for new players though.
Noah has much worse rcv than Luci, doesn't she? 0 Rcv herself, and a much lower rcv multiplier.
It's not just that for lucifer. I just said. jesus christ.
Also no, that's not fuckin' fair. 'Oh he's good. Lets give him complete SHIT?' Seriously? Not to mention stall teams were already running into problems and needing boosts, and no, that's not a fucking good excuse for such a -shitty god damn ultimate-, and even fucking worse if you weren't even expecting an absurdly popular monster to win. You don't give people excuses because they fucked up badly, Especially when they're not planning on fixing those fuck ups.
Also, that's also a complete lie and anyone who says he 'completely wrecks and is a godsend for new players' has no idea what they're actually saying, which is copypasta bad meta arguments, which pisses me off the most because that's the -bulk- of the sheer bile the pad community generates around him.
He doesn't really have anything, to be blunt.
And yes, but Lucifer's teams these days run HP more than rcv and Noah herself has a much wider pool and -much- shorter active than luci himself. And is farmable.
She's better, and theres really no disputing that.
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I think I'm gonna shut up because it's obvious I don't know enough about lucifer to comment on this :ohdear:
One last comment though, even Lucifer's worth as a sub seemed to be screwed over by Piccolo from DBZ. 260k Dark damage with only 22 turns cooldown and no side effects. Welp.
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I think I'm gonna shut up because it's obvious I don't know enough about lucifer to comment on this :ohdear:
One last comment though, even Lucifer's worth as a sub seemed to be screwed over by Piccolo from DBZ. 260k Damage with only 22 turns cooldown with no side effects. Welp.
I wish more people would take queues from you to be blunt, the amount of people who don't recognize that fact is pretty huge.
Also yeah essentially. Even before piccolo no one wanted to anyway and his awakenings are too weak to justify it.
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With the next Hera Descended right around the corner, I'm investing pretty hard in my Anti-Hera Team, though I must ask if anybody here has a fully awoken uvo GOdin?
If not it's fine, I planned my team around non-uvo'd Odin, but having Uvo'd Odin would certainly make things a lot easier (I could swap AA Luci for someone from my monored, for example.)
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if i recall triangles has an odin but not UEvo.
I remember because i used her odin for my Hera run.
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I do indeed! He is fully awoken for the regular form, and if I can finally get a goddamn Mystic Mask I could have him ulted for Hera o'clock, though I am out of Tamadras at the moment.
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holy shit apocalypse
now that is a dragon leader
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I do indeed! He is fully awoken for the regular form, and if I can finally get a goddamn Mystic Mask I could have him ulted for Hera o'clock, though I am out of Tamadras at the moment.
Oh, being out of TAMADRAs is a bummer, I'd give you a few if I could, god knows I don't know what to do with 9 TAMADRAs sitting in my box even after fully awakening everyone that's even remotely important to my endeavours.
No rush though, like I said, I did design my team with non-uvo'd Odin in mind.
holy shit apocalypse
now that is a dragon leader
You sure? His LS is essentially Zaerog's but losing 50% ATK for a bonus 15% HP.
And though his active skill really is pretty neat, I'm not sure what I would do with the hearts since afaik there's no dragon-type heartbreaker, especially not one that's light or dark based.
I could see him being used with W/D Zaerog in a dragon team but not much else, I'm seeing him more as a Sopdet/Meimei Sub tbh.
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Thinking on it R/D Guan Yu is a Dragon-Type Heartbreaker that also does have a Dark type but I think he'd be a better leader than Apocalypse would since he's freaking Guan Yu.
@Edit?
Oh, Dragon Rider Arthur would actually be really good with Apocalypse, but I still can't really see apocalypse getting justified as a leader, at least not over Guan Yu or Zaerog. :/
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Apocalypse:
1) Looks fucking awesome
2) Has a great leader skill
3) Has an utterly fantastic active
4) Has 5 awakenings
Therefore, I bet he's related somehow to padz and we never get him ;_;
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creating hearts in addition to orbs is a fucking amazing skill. It lets you deal damage AND heal at the same time and perfectly synergizes with the HP boost. Also zaerog still has negative RCV which sucks massively (hence why gigas is pretty much never used seriously despite all his buffs)
in other news, following the footsteps of marvel, Thor and Loki are now girls and Loki is checking out Thor's ass
(http://i.imgur.com/9WOMjwv.jpg)
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And though his active skill really is pretty neat, I'm not sure what I would do with the hearts since afaik there's no dragon-type heartbreaker, especially not one that's light or dark based.
I could see him being used with W/D Zaerog in a dragon team but not much else, I'm seeing him more as a Sopdet/Meimei Sub tbh.
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Thinking on it R/D Guan Yu is a Dragon-Type Heartbreaker that also does have a Dark type but I think he'd be a better leader than Apocalypse would since he's freaking Guan Yu.
@Edit?
Oh, Dragon Rider Arthur would actually be really good with Apocalypse, but I still can't really see apocalypse getting justified as a leader, at least not over Guan Yu or Zaerog. :/
They are going to release Fire, Water and Light dragon type heartbreakers along with him in the upcoming update. So blatant support for him I don't even.
They have a skill boost and their skill is heartbreaker into their respective colours along with a 1 turn bind recovery, so max skilled cd would presumably be around 6 turns?
He also fit in Sopdet teams I guess? :V
Thor so moe
I bet he's like "Why the heck did I listen to Loki?"
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So does anyone have a Zeus they'd be willing to put up for me so I can attempt the suffering that is twinlits? I sent out a couple requests thanks to a padherder search but didn't get responses.
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So where do people usually get Tamadras? I've been going after metal dragon dungeons pretty aggressively every time they're supposed to be present, but I've only seen one in quite a while and it didn't drop. Given how relatively inexpensive Echidna's ultimate evolution is and how un-important her awakenings are I figure I can wait for her dungeon to come up, save a couple of Nagas and raise them, de-evolve her, awaken her, and re-evolve her. Since Siren doesn't have her own dungeon doing that her seems like it would be a lot harder, unless I get some Mermaids out of the Pal machine at some point.
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The best way to get TAMAs is either events or simply getting lucky with the PEM.
I have 10 TAMADRAs sitting in my box due to events, though I did get 2 today (One from the PEM and one from Ruby Dragons).
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So where do people usually get Tamadras?
1) Get lucky with metal dragons (doesn't look like this happened.)
2) Get lucky with pengdra village (about as hard, and it's only a baby)
3) PEM (Probably should wait until evo mats pops up later)
4) Handouts & compensation(They hand out a bunch at a time)
5) S-Rank dungeons (These are really iffy and you'd have to know what you're doing with the rarity system and such.)
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1) Get lucky with metal dragons (doesn't look like this happened.
This has happened to me but it happens very scarcely, as the three that I got from metal dragons were spawned along with three little metal dragons beside it. Gungho gave me the drops, thankfully.
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I've seen tamas about 4 times, and gotten a drop once, for what that's worth. Not really a reliable/stable source, but just like a nice freebie.
Unfortunately the most reliable source would be to consistently farm twinlits for baby tamas, and even then that's technically a 33% chance.
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But the consolation prize is a Dubmythlit at least :V
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(http://i.imgur.com/J2NXkT5l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/J2NXkT5.jpg)
The first wave didn't give me enough light orbs to kill mythlits, but luckily they didn't Flash Bind so I was able to safely knock out two anyway.
Guess I know what I'm doing on Fridays from now on, unless there's a descend I want to run.
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hahahaha fuck, they took away the two-prongs on sarasvati and krishna, rest in pieces two-prong
that double enhance orbs too, atleast he has a row (But obviously not enough to go as a leader and is a mediocre sub)
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Stalled as hard as I could, but it still took 4 stones, worth it though
(http://i.imgur.com/oJz9pQk.png)
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Therefore, I bet he's related somehow to padz and we never get him ;_;
i'll let you know if I pull him from the godfest REM huehuehue
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None of the JP players here have a Batman I can use for Draggie do they?I hate conditionals. Also, can I get a flame chaser/Wangren for Tengu?
Thanks Suikama. Too bad I didn't know that Neneko threw out fire binds. That pretty much screwed me over. Ended up using a stone for a treasure chest. I love conditionals.
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So, what are your plans for Wadatsumi?
I'm thinking of running Legend with Godin/Caol-Ila (max skilled :V)/Kirin/TAMADRApurin/Susano-O/Amaterasu
Of course, stones will probably be spent on wave 1 (probably to get zero drops from the boss) but there's only so much I can do against the goblin.
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So, what are your plans for Wadatsumi?
I'm thinking of running Legend with Godin/Caol-Ila (max skilled :V)/Kirin/TAMADRApurin/Susano-O/Amaterasu
Of course, stones will probably be spent on wave 1 (probably to get zero drops from the boss) but there's only so much I can do against the goblin.
ignore it, probably
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weeellll
I can personally confirm that Godin+Ammy can no-stone Wadatsumi on Legend. I mean, the partner Ammy had +99 RCV and I used incredibly niche things to burst down the Sachi bros in a reasonable time but you know.
... still only got a chest drop. If I can get Wadatsumi, Beyzul, and Cleopatra that'll be three blue row enhance subs right there for a 2/3/2 > 1/12/1 blue row enhance team.
aaaggghhhh why can't I have I&I
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Note to self:do not try descends as soon as I wake up. Couldn't make matches for Kirin to save my life. Doesn't help that I have a second less to do it all. :(
Also, what was your odin/ammy team, fanatic? I suppose I could try that, too.
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Recently most of my stamina has been going into Pengdra Villages and varios jewel/metal dragon dungeons. Every time one is voming up that's even remotely useful (which is to say "not Metal Dragons) I time out my runs so that I can sink all of my stamina into doing it repeatedly. This is starting to feel like a waste of time, since jewel pengdras now give less than a level to any of my guys and still take up quite a lot of time and space. The thing is, if I don't do this I don't know how I'll ever level anything up. What do you think? Is commitying to multiple runs of these dungeons a good use of stamina? Maybe if I ever got good drops it would feel worth it, but I just sank 60 stamina into Pengdra Village and got my least-wanted drop on all but one floor.
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Recently most of my stamina has been going into Pengdra Villages and varios jewel/metal dragon dungeons. Every time one is voming up that's even remotely useful (which is to say "not Metal Dragons) I time out my runs so that I can sink all of my stamina into doing it repeatedly. This is starting to feel like a waste of time, since jewel pengdras now give less than a level to any of my guys and still take up quite a lot of time and space. The thing is, if I don't do this I don't know how I'll ever level anything up. What do you think? Is commitying to multiple runs of these dungeons a good use of stamina? Maybe if I ever got good drops it would feel worth it, but I just sank 60 stamina into Pengdra Village and got my least-wanted drop on all but one floor.
I'd rather go hunt Jewel Metal Dragons, even the lowest ones. And just hunt baby Pengdras.
Pengdra Village costs 20 sta, and doesn't ensure a drop of a unless it's 2x rate, other than that, Pengdra Village consists of all the colors(except heart)/element. Considering you only want to grind and powerlevel a specific element. It'll be better to go to Technical Dungeons, and hunt Baby Pengdras/Adult Pengdras, and use a lot of your Metal Dragons for evolutions. That's why I don't trash my Metal Dragons, and even just keep them for Baby Pengdras I find.
IMO, Pengdra Village is only as good if it's x2, to ensure a Baby TAMADRA/Adult Pengdras encounter and drop in it. Other than that, I find it a less useful dungeon to hunt for exp fodder, since of non-consistent element, and sta. cost.
But who knows, it, might be only in my perspective.
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Why do I prefer the Jewel Metal Dragon dungeons? Simple, it drops High and higher Metal Dragons that gives huge exp. The lowest-tier Metal Dragons are just bonuses for your Baby Pengdras.
25 sta for the Hunt, and 50 for Revenge. Both good, esp if 2x.
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The monmusu have crossed the sea of time and punched out the time god
(http://i.imgur.com/hNMxPf5.png)
Very viable 0-stone team going on here, though I fucked up at the end and did something I shouldn't have which made me stone anyway, though I did get Wadatsumi.
Thanks to Yukarin for having a badass LMeta
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Thanks to Yukarin for having a badass LMeta
:blush:
Very flattered!
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Also, what was your odin/ammy team, fanatic? I suppose I could try that, too.
I ran with the team I posted earlier - Godin/Caol-Ila/Sakuya/TAMADRApurin/Susano-O/Ammy
Most of these were for HP; there aren't any specific HP breakpoints you need, though, so you can probably fit more gravity instead of TAMADRApurin or Caol-Ila. Echidna also works because lol why use Susano-O.
The first and third wave, along with Sachi bros' GTFO phase, are the biggest roadblocks unless Ammy has an exceedingly high RCV.
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Recently most of my stamina has been going into Pengdra Villages and varios jewel/metal dragon dungeons. Every time one is voming up that's even remotely useful (which is to say "not Metal Dragons) I time out my runs so that I can sink all of my stamina into doing it repeatedly. This is starting to feel like a waste of time, since jewel pengdras now give less than a level to any of my guys and still take up quite a lot of time and space. The thing is, if I don't do this I don't know how I'll ever level anything up. What do you think? Is commitying to multiple runs of these dungeons a good use of stamina? Maybe if I ever got good drops it would feel worth it, but I just sank 60 stamina into Pengdra Village and got my least-wanted drop on all but one floor.
If you can make tier 5/6, I'd say just run those and supers when they come up. That's what I do.
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Continously generating user ids is now prohibited in JP.
Which means rerolling, technically (though gungho is clearly aiming at scumbags who reroll accounts to 20).
So in short, people ruined things for us and pad is now over.
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welp Legend Wada was super easy but on Mythical I got hit by U&Y's 23k
I should have probably just used Bubblie to burst him down because bluh green
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Continously generating user ids is now prohibited in JP.
Which means rerolling, technically (though gungho is clearly aiming at scumbags who reroll accounts to 20).
So in short, people ruined things for us and pad is now over.
Eh, not for everyone who is already playing. Just for newbies. :v
Better get your friends scummed in before it's prohibited here too.
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Continously generating user ids is now prohibited in JP.
Which means rerolling, technically (though gungho is clearly aiming at scumbags who reroll accounts to 20).
So in short, people ruined things for us and pad is now over.
Not necessarily. It just means people can't necessarily start off with something really good an instead have to wait til they get lucky and snag something. 's what I did and it didn't bother me. By the time one is at the point where endgame stuff is in their crosshairs they'll have been playing for a while and most likely be able to cobble together something decent from the REM drops and easier Descends and such, right?
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Technical dungeons are awesome right now. I'm drowning in + eggs. I have so many I'm running out of money to feed them all. + eggs and Dub-Topalits to evolve my Baby Tamadras. Now I really regret bothering with Pengdra Village nonsense earlier. :V
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Not necessarily. It just means people can't necessarily start off with something really good an instead have to wait til they get lucky and snag something. 's what I did and it didn't bother me. By the time one is at the point where endgame stuff is in their crosshairs they'll have been playing for a while and most likely be able to cobble together something decent from the REM drops and easier Descends and such, right?
No, not really. Having a good leader is HELLA important and makes the beginning a lot more bearable. Trust me, I only survived starting with a sylph because I'm a mini-whale.
This does not account for luck either, and tbh yours was hella good. >>
Eh, not for everyone who is already playing. Just for newbies. :v
Better get your friends scummed in before it's prohibited here too.
Yeah, but a bar to new players stops the game from growing really badly.
It's not really good, especially with the constant powercreep that keeps happening (Two-prong being crap is probably the first time it's kinda stopped, and even then it's still getting a lot of hype) that might eventually cause a lot of current players to get fed up after a point.
This is a pretty dangerous move, basically.
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No, not really. Having a good leader is HELLA important and makes the beginning a lot more bearable. Trust me, I only survived starting with a sylph because I'm a mini-whale.
This does not account for luck either, and tbh yours was hella good. >>
Yeah, but a bar to new players stops the game from growing really badly.
It's not really good, especially with the constant powercreep that keeps happening (Two-prong being crap is probably the first time it's kinda stopped, and even then it's still getting a lot of hype) that might eventually cause a lot of current players to get fed up after a point.
This is a pretty dangerous move, basically.
I'll agree with this. Several of my friends stopped playing because they felt there was no where for them to go. Honestly, if I didn't roll Kirin when I did, I don't know if I'd still be here. Not a whole lot 2/4/2 can do anymore.
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I'll agree with this. Several of my friends stopped playing because they felt there was no where for them to go. Honestly, if I didn't roll Kirin when I did, I don't know if I'd still be here. Not a whole lot 2/4/2 can do anymore.
I'll unfortunately have to agree to this sentiment. If it wasn't for the fact that I have both a Horus and an AA Luci to work with, I think I would've stopped playing already. My 2/4/2, as reliable as it is for lower-end stuff, can barely no-stone Heroes Descended reliably, and that's the easiest of the end-game stuff. Heck I don't even know if Heroes Descended is considered end-game :v
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While I started out with Luci, Suzaku, and UmiYama, the only one I actually used for any period of time was Lucifer-- and he didn't suit my preferred playstyle (and I sucked too much to use Suzaku or UmiYama), so once I got a vamp I used my first snow globe on him and evo'd him as soon as possible-- and he was my leader for the longest time.
Then I went full whale and pulled stuff like DMeta, Pandora, DLuci, Gryps Rider, and LMeta all in one fest and that's when I really took off.
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screw gungho for 1) allowing the game to be rollscummed in the first place and 2) making it so that you're dependent on rng in your rem rolls to advance anywhere satisfactorily.
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Hm...maybe if they introduce maybe some sort of slightly less useful but still good things in maybe a Master level descend? Stuff with capabilities to, with the right setups, get you the easier other Descend things, which will in TURRN lead you to the medium ones, etc...
Unfortunately, there is always the point to consider if tthey make it TOO easy to advance, people won't be as tempted to buy stones. As much as they give stuff to people, they're stilll looking to make money on this. I'm not saying it works out well for the players, but they ARE still a business so I imagine profit margins are a pretty big deal for them. That's also probably the reason for the powercreep, too, to keep older players rolling as well.
EDIT: Also I apologize; I hadn't really been considering that my own luck is stupidly good compared to what a lot of others end up dealing with.
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I can't really say much about it yet. Right now I just roll periodically with my free stones and eventually I'm getting pieces to a wholesome team. Take my dual Gabriels for example; I don't even have any other subs with blue row enhances, but possible subs include Beyzul, Cleopatra, and Wadatsumi. While it might not seem like much, being able to switch from stall 2/3/2 to 1/12/1 with five row enhances (assuming Lakshmi lead) is significant enough, I think.
If you think about using only a singular leader all the time, I don't think you're enjoying the game as much as you could be, figuring out how to use what you got and make a stable team from the pieces that you do get.
As much as I love TAMADRApurin, it's about time I focused on the other leaders I have, you know?
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I can't really say much about it yet. Right now I just roll periodically with my free stones and eventually I'm getting pieces to a wholesome team. Take my dual Gabriels for example; I don't even have any other subs with blue row enhances, but possible subs include Beyzul, Cleopatra, and Wadatsumi. While it might not seem like much, being able to switch from stall 2/3/2 to 1/12/1 with five row enhances (assuming Lakshmi lead) is significant enough, I think.
If you think about using only a singular leader all the time, I don't think you're enjoying the game as much as you could be, figuring out how to use what you got and make a stable team from the pieces that you do get.
As much as I love TAMADRApurin, it's about time I focused on the other leaders I have, you know?
I agree, though at the same time, the team shouldn't be annoying to play. Tank teams shouldn't have to take an hour and a half to do anything. Not to mention, what else isn't fun. Getting a shiny gold and finding out that it's pretty much useless unless you have a bunch of other REM cards to go with it.
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I don't think locking people out of rerolling is the core problem, the problem is that people are expected to do it. I've seen a couple of people try to get into the game, see that they're required/expected to do that, and drop it on the spot because it gives a bad first impression. And I agree with them, I didn't reroll after a bad opening pull, and if I hadn't lucked into something great I probably wouldn't still be playing. Better starters or a one-time beginner egg machine that gives guaranteed usable leaders would go a long way toward making the game accessible.
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Yeah, but gungho is stupid and would never do that :v
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Don't think it would even be that hard to do, I mean... They could just make it so that, instead of getting 5 stones on the tutorial to spend on the REM, you could get a single pull from a beginner-exclusive Egg Machine.
Hell, if they're feeling particularly lazy, just give that REM a 100% of chances of giving you a random monster from the previous godfest (or whatever godfest might be on at the time) with lowered chances of Special Gods.
But of course, most gaming companies don't seem to use common sense, GungHo apparently is no different.
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Don't think it would even be that hard to do, I mean... They could just make it so that, instead of getting 5 stones on the tutorial to spend on the REM, you could get a single pull from a beginner-exclusive Egg Machine.
Hell, if they're feeling particularly lazy, just give that REM a 100% of chances of giving you a random monster from the previous godfest (or whatever godfest might be on at the time) with lowered chances of Special Gods.
But of course, most gaming companies don't seem to use common sense, GungHo apparently is no different.
it's obviously not, they've made special rems before.
They just WANT to trap you into whaling, Gungho and most mobile game companys are predatory by nature.
So...yeah, basically. Some games even lock you out of rollscumming and lemme tell you, it's the worst
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it's obviously not, they've made special rems before.
They just WANT to trap you into whaling, Gungho and most mobile game companys are predatory by nature.
So...yeah, basically. Some games even lock you out of rollscumming and lemme tell you, it's the worst
True that's one of the nice things about Dorapo. They actually give you a decent starter that doesn't require a ton of investment. Less annoying skillup system too. Too bad I like PAD better as far as the actual game goes.
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True that's one of the nice things about Dorapo. They actually give you a decent starter that doesn't require a ton of investment. Less annoying skillup system too. Too bad I like PAD better as far as the actual game goes.
Pretty much, hell it's the example I was avoiding.
They both give you a free 'gold egg' (SS card) ontop of your starter, -and- make them worthwhile cards that will last you. It's the kind of system Pad would appreciate.
except whoops pad doesn't take hints from other games like morons
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pad doesnt take hints from other games because they are making more money than them :V
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pad doesnt take hints from other games because they are making more money than them :V
Sadly, yes.
PAD basically runs off it's own absurd popularity enough to actually get away with all this bullshit.
This doesn't mean they shouldn't however, but lets not talk about game deaths when it's not actually in sight yet.
Edit: Also that filters into 'because they're morons' too anyway because making less money = / = worse product, a lot of this is popularity and gungho has a LOT of steps up on other games, including the hideous amounts of collabs they sell out on
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1-stoned Wadatsumi Legend and got the drop using a Luci team.
Never again.
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1-stoned Wadatsumi Legend and got the drop using a Luci team.
Never again.
Why not Kirin?
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WHO'S GOING TO BE MAKING NEXT THREAD GUYS
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WHO'S GOING TO BE MAKING NEXT THREAD GUYS
I GOT THIS, NO WORRIES. GIMME A SEC.
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Why not Kirin?
because of the stupid orb changers and the fact that I didn't have my +1 second crutch to help me match in time.
Just because I have Kirin doesn't mean I'm actually good with her :v
anyway thread locked