Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Hakurei Shrine~ => Help Me, Eirin! => Topic started by: LunarWingCloud on May 05, 2014, 11:54:48 PM
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For the shmup titles, which character/shot type do you depend on most when you play? You can also list any other shot types you use very often.
Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: MarisaA
Perfect Cherry Blossom
Primary: SakuyaA
Secondary: ReimuA
Imperishable Night
Primary: Reimu/Yukari (Boundary Team)
Secondary: Sakuya/Remilia (Scarlet Team)
Mountain of Faith
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: MarisaB (using VPatch, no bug abuse!)
Subterranean Animism
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: ReimuA (which I'm starting to prefer more)
Undefined Fantastic Object
Primary: SanaeA
Secondary: ReimuB
Ten Desires
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Sanae
Double Dealing Character
Primary: SakuyaA
Secondary: ReimuA
I think it's worth noting that Sakuya is my favorite character, and Reimu is second. :V
EDIT: Yeah after playing it some more I realized I'm better with the weapon-based shot types in DDC so my secondary is really ReimuA, not ReimuB.
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EoSD, MarisaA followed by ReimuB
PCB, MarisaA followed by ReimuB
IN, Ghost Team followed by Scarlet Team.
PoFV, Yuuka, followed by Marisa
MoF, MarisaC followed by ReimuB
SA, ReimuC followed by MarisaA
UFO, SanaeA followed by ReimuB
10D, Marisa followed by Sanae
DDC, MatisaA followed by ReimuB
That's about it.
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EoSD
Haven't played this in forever, cleared Hard with ReimuA and Extra with MarisaA, so those two I guess.
PCB
Main: ReimuB
Second: MarisaA
IN
Main: Border Team
Second: Ghost Team
PoFV
Main: Marisa/Reimu
Second: Eiki
MoF
Main: ReimuB
Second: ReimuA
SA
Main: ReimuA
Second: Anyone not MarisaC
UFO
ReimuB?
TD
Main: Reimu
Second: ^
DDC
Main: ReimuA
Second: ReimuB for when I feel like hating myself.
Reimu everywhere, I'm boring like that :).
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Christmas tree marisa first. Persuasion needle reimu since christmas tree marisa is no more.
Homing ulet reimu for when i dont know enemy spawn placement and stuff, until i memorize the major spawn areas of manor threats, then needle it is.
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Needles-Reimu in almost every game for her good concentrated power (still acceptable in DDC I think, though she is clearly weaker) and small hitbox. The only exception is PCB, where MarisaA is my main, though she functions much like needles-Reimu in later titles anyway. Yeah, I prefer forward-focus types in Touhou.
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Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
Primary: MarisaA
Secondary: ReimuB I guess?
Perfect Cherry Blossom
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: SakuyaA
Imperishable Night
Primary: Reimu/Yukari
Secondary: Youmu/Yuyuko
Mountain of Faith
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: MarisaC
Subterranean Animism
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: ReimuC
Undefined Fantastic Object
Primary: SanaeB
Secondary: ReimuA I guess?
Ten Desires
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Youmu
Double Dealing Character
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: SakuyaA
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Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: ReimuA
Perfect Cherry Blossom
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: ReimuA
Imperishable Night
Primary: Youmu/Yuyuko
Secondary: Reimu/Yukari
Mountain of Faith
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: ReimuB
Subterranean Animism
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: MarisaB
Undefined Fantastic Object
Primary: SanaeA
Secondary: MarisaA
Ten Desires
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Marisa
Double Dealing Character
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: SakuyaB
I'm mostly a Reimu player across all games.
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I usually use Reimu as my primary
mainly because i just too lazy to get use to other character lol
but occasionally I would try out other character just for fun.
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MS: Mima, then Reimu
EoSD: Changes a lot. I cycle through all of them.
PCB: Sakuya A, then... No one else, really.
IN: Border Team, then Magic Team.
PoFV: Marisa.
MoF: Cycles between Reimu A+B and Marisa B
SA: Reimu B
UFO: Cycle between Reimu A, Sanae A+B
TD: Reimu/Marisa
DDC: Sakuya A, then Reimu A/B, then Marisa A.
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SoEW - ReimuC (Shorter bosses = shorter game! ...I really hate SoEW)
PoDD - Mima (strong level 1, decent scoring potential, pretty good against AI without being op)
LLS - MarisaB (easiest to control where and what you're shooting)
MS - Mima (good speed, good power, a bit of a spread, too good)
EoSD - ReimuB (standard forward shot, strong, good bomb)
PCB - ReimuB (forward shot, good bombs, good cherry gain, strong, doesn't wreck your cherry as badly as other shots when you fuck up. MarisaA is cool too I guess)
IN - Varies (Border/Ghost teams, Youmu, Marisa are all cool)
PoFV - Marisa (easy to use, I don't play PoFV much at all)
MoF - ReimuC (rewards getting close without being totally useless at a distance like some other spread shots)
SA - ReimuA (it's just good. Also the other shots either feel awkward or suck)
UFO - SanaeB (good at basically everything. Her bomb is a bit too much for the poor UFOs though.)
TD - Reimu (I prefer her speed over Marisa's, Sanae is garbage, Youmu too awkward)
DDC - ReimuA (stages are more interesting when you aren't pressing X)
Touhou 15 - Mima (it'll happen for sure this time!)
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SoEW - Youmu
PoDD - Youmu Chiyuri
LLS - Youmu
MS - Youmu
EoSD - Youmu
PCB - Youmu
IN - Youmu
PoFV - Youmu
StB - Youmu
MoF - Youmu
SA - Youmu
UFO - Youmu
DS - Youmu
GFW - Youmu
TD - Youmu
DDC - Youmu
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EoSD:
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: ReimuB
PCB:
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: MarisaA
IN:
Primary: Border Team
Secondary: Scarlet Team
PoFV:
Primary: Shikieki
Secondary: Reimu
MoF:
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: ReimuA
SA:
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: ReimuB
UFO:
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: ReimuA
TD:
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Marisa
DDC:
Primary: ReimuA
Secondary: ReimuB
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EoSD:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Marisa B I think?
PCB:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Sakuya B
IN:
Primary: border team
Secondary: netherworld team
MoF:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Marisa B (I swear I don't use her overpowered to fuck laser lol)
SA:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: I kinda hate every other team honestly; I guess marisa C annoys me the least
UFO:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Sanae B
TD:
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: marisa (maybe if I get more practice with youmu I'll use her more)
DDC:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: I haven't really played much with the other teams
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1. Is there some weird shottype everyone will complain about being too weak? -> pick that one
2. Is there a Laser-shottype? -> pick that one
That is generally my go to formula (First 1cc of UFO was with MarisaB and MoF hard with MariC :V)
Exceptions being IN where I usually pick Yuyu solo (does that count as one of those weird shottypes? She definitely doesn't lack power), TD where I will never pick Sanae because she upsets me and MS & PoFW cause there you can pick Yuuka.
Why Laser-types? I don't know. I guess it is because I'm so amused by the MaliceCannon. I don't even like MasterSpark as a bomb.
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Reimu, preferably with needles. Simple and effective, shoots straight and deals damage, that's all I want. I'm too conservative for any fancy gimmicks.
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I tend to focus on the older Windows games (EoSD, PCB, IN). On the newer ones, the decisions are more difficult since I'm more unfamiliar with the games. Also didn't include the PC-98 games since I don't play them often either, nor PoFV.
EoSD:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Marisa A
PCB:
Primary: Sakuya A
Secondary: Sakuya B
IN:
Primary: Reimu/Yukari Team
Secondary: Youmu/Yuyuko Team
MoF:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Reimu B
SA:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Reimu B?
UFO:
Primary: Sanae A
Secondary: None, don't play this game often. Probably a Reimu one if I had to pick.
TD:
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Marisa
DDC:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Sakuya A
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SoEW - Reimu A (She's fast.)
SoEW EX - Reimu B (The homing amulets you get at full power allow for much better item collection from the purple birds than is possible with type A.)
PoDD - Chiyuri - (Speed, charge attack is easy to aim and control, scoring potential from bosses and spells, waifuism.)
MS - Mima (OP)
PCB Extra - Sakuya B (Too lazy to learn the the other types' autistic bombs. I also find her shot fun to use, and her speed syncs up so well with somersaulting Chen~ )
PoFV - Eiki (Good speed, good scope, good scoring potential, she faces the more enjoyable late game opponents, and completely transforms the final stage.)
DS - Hatate (Pigtails.)
SoEW - ReimuC (Shorter bosses = shorter game!
You know, she's actually the weakest shot in the game if you have decent autofire. :v
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Needle Raymoo
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EoSD:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Reimu A
PCB:
Primary: Sakuya B
Secondary: Reimu A
IN:
Primary: border team
Secondary: border team
MoF:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Reimu A
SA:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Marisa Alice
UFO:
Primary: Reimu A
Secondary: Sanae B
TD:
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Yuuka (patch, lol)
DDC:
Primary: Sakuya A
Secondary: Reimu A
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SoEW: Reimu ;P Offensive Type
PoDD: I don't really play this, but I like Kana's attacks
LLS: Marisa Lasers/Reimu Homing
MS: Mima/Yuuka
EosD: MarisaA/ReimuB
PCB: MarisaA/ReimuB
IN: Reimu and Yukari/Sakuya and Remilia or Youmu solo
PoFV: Sakuya/Reimu
MoF: ReimuB/ReimuC
SA: Depends on how I'm feeling. Anything except Aya, really
UFO: I tried to main MarisaA, but I really am much better with ReimuB
TD: Reimu/Youmu
DDC: SakuyaA/ReimuA
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EoSD: MarisaA SUPER SANIC SPEED and christmas trees
PCB: SakuyaB literally insane knife timestopping skills
IN: Scarlet Team BATS! this team is just too cool 4 me
MoF: ReimuC SHOTGUN TO YA FACE
SA: MarisaB does this even need an explanation?
UFO: SanaeA SNAKES ON THIS MOTHAFUCKING UFO also dat BOMB 2 sexy
TD: does the character even matter if you are just pressing XX C? Sanae.
DDC: MarisaAwesome GO MARISA USE FLAMETHROWER! IT WAS SUPER EFFECTIVE!!
/slits throat
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EoSD:
1. ReimuB
2. ReimuA
PCB:
1. SakuyaB
2. ReimuB
IN:
1. Ghost
2. Border
PoFV:
1. Eiki
2. Mystia
MoF:
1. MarisaBug
2. X button
SA:
1. ReimuA
2. ReimuC
UFO:
1. SanaeB
2. ReimuA
TD:
1. XX
2. C
DDC:
1. ReimuA
2. ReimuB
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EoSD:
Primary: MarisaA
Secondary: ReimuB
PCB:
Primary: ReimuB
Secondary: SakuyaB
IN:
Primary: Scarlet Devil Team
Secondary: None
PoFV:
Primary: Varies
Secondary: Yuka
MoF:
Primary: MarisaB
Secondary: ReimuB
SA:
Primary: MarisaB
Secondary: ReimuA
UFO:
Primary: SanaeB
Secondary: MarisaA
GFW:
Primary: Cirno
Secondary: Cirno
TD:
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Marisa
DDC:
Primary: SakuyaB
Secondary: ReimuB
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No matter what game it is, I tend to use ReimuA. I prefer slower characters in bullet hells, so Reimu is perfect.
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EoSD - Marisa A
PCB - Sakuya B
IN - Scarlet Team; Magic Team secondary
MoF - Reimu A
SA - Reimu A/B equally
UFO: Sanae B [Seriously are there even other shottypes? Sanae B is stupid]
TD - Reimu
DDC - Sakuya A
My favorite shottypes tend to have a wide-range unfocused shot and either a homing or high-damage foward-focus focused shot. I prefer the foward-focus over the homing in most games [See: EoSD]. Hence why Sakuya shottypes are always so attractive to me, I play Sakuya shottypes in every game you can use them.
Exception is MoF and TD, I just do not get along with Marisa's laser shottypes.
I generally don't favor any character in the games besides Sakuya. And even then, in IN I play the Scarlet team almost always as Remi except for short bursts.
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Reimu with the pokey needles.
Marisa and I do not get along.
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1. Is there some weird shottype everyone will complain about being too weak? -> pick that one
2. Is there a Laser-shottype? -> pick that one
That is generally my go to formula (First 1cc of UFO was with MarisaB and MoF hard with MariC :V)
Exceptions being IN where I usually pick Yuyu solo (does that count as one of those weird shottypes? She definitely doesn't lack power), TD where I will never pick Sanae because she upsets me and MS & PoFW cause there you can pick Yuuka.
Why Laser-types? I don't know. I guess it is because I'm so amused by the MaliceCannon. I don't even like MasterSpark as a bomb.
Yeah, laser types are always too weak =p (cept in IN).
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EoSD : MarisaB
PCB: MarisaB
IN: Aria of Forbidden Magic Team
PoFV: Marisa
MoF: MarisaB
SA: Marisa & Patchouli
UFO: MarisaB
TD: Marisa
DDC: MarisaB
I just really like laser shot types.
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EoSD : MarisaB
PCB: MarisaB
IN: Aria of Forbidden Magic Team
PoFV: Marisa
MoF: MarisaB
SA: Marisa & Patchouli
UFO: MarisaB
TD: Marisa
DDC: MarisaB
I just really like laser shot types.
Why not MarisaA in UFO then?
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SA: Marisa & Patchouli
I just really like laser shot types.
Marisa & Alice might be more fitting because of those bombs. :3
(http://i.imgur.com/xEKmts6.png)
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I actually have that picture. :P
But yeah in games where I consider it harder to stay directly under the boss, I like stuff with some sort of homing. In other games I'll experiment but I tend to veer towards Reimu and in games where they are available, Sakuya or Sanae.
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EoSD: Don't care. aka I don't play it enough to have one
PCB: ReimuA
IN: Illusionary Barrier Team
PoFV: Mystia
MoF: ReimuA
SA: Primary - ReimuA, Secondary: MarisaC
UFO: SanaeB
TD: Reimu
DDC: ReimuA
Sorry I'm so boring. :ohdear:
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SoEW: I hate all of them and can never get adjusted to any of them.
PoDD: Marisa, Kana
LLS: Reimu A, Marisa B
MS: Marisa, Mima
EoSD: Reimu B, Marisa A
PCB: Reimu B, Sakuya B
IN: Youmu Solo, Boundary Team
PoFV: Reimu, Marisa, A fair bit more here.
MoF: Reimu B, Marisa C
SA: Reimu C, Marisa B
UFO: Sanae B, Reimu A
TD: Reimu, Youmu
DDC: Reimu A, Sakuya A
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PoDD: Chiyuri, Marisa
EoSD: ReimuA, ReimuB
PCB: ReimuB, ReimuA
IN: Border Team, Netherworld Team
MoF: ReimuB, ReimuA
SA: ReimuA, MarisaA
UFO: ReimuA, ReimuB
TD: Reimu, Sanae
DDC: ReimuB, ReimuA
Look at all that Reimu.
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It's been a while I wanted to answer to this topic
EoSD: Marisa A
IN: Primary: Marisa/Alice Secondary: Sakuya/Remilia (1cc'ed with both of this)
PoFV: Primary: Lyrica (1cc'ed) Secondary: Yuuka (1cc'ed)/ Merlin (Can't play story with her :()
SA: Marisa B
UFO: Marisa B
DDC: Marisa A (1cc'ed today! :D)
DS: Hatate (Does this count?)
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EoSD: Reimu-B
PCB: Sakuya-A
IN: Marisa/Alice
MoF: Marisa-B :V
SA: Reimu-A
UFO: Sanae: B
TD: Marisa
DDC: Marisa-B :V (When I get to no bomb runs I'll use Sakuya-A)
>Broken shot types are fun yo
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SoEW: Reimu C
PoDD: Rikako, Kana
LLS: Marisa B
MS: Mima
EoSD: Marisa B, Reimu A
PCB: Sakuya B
IN: Boundary team, Yuyuko
PoFV: Yuuka (her speed is ideal for me <3), Youmu
MoF: Reimu A, Marisa B
SA: Reimu B
UFO: Sanae B, Reimu A
TD: Sanae, Reimu
DDC: Reimu A
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LLS ReimuA
MS Mima
EoSD ReimuB
PCB ReimuB
IN Reimu+Yukari, 2nd Youmu solo
MoF ReimuA/ReimuB
SA ReimuA, 2nd MarisaA
UFO SanaeB
TD Reimu/Marisa
DDC ReimuA
Isn't this so generic?
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SoEW: Reimu A
PoDD: Kotohime
LLS: I don't really have a favorite, they're all pretty great.
MS: Yuuka
EoSD: Marisa B
PCB: Sakuya B
IN: Yukari Solo (favorite shot type), Aria of Forbidden Magic Team
PoFV: Lunasa, Reisen, Yuuka (not as often)
MoF: Marisa B
SA: Reimu A
UFO: Sanae A
TD: Sanae
DDC: Sakuya B
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How about ISC item combos?
- Lamp/Statue
- Lamp/Mallet
- Statue/Statue
- Statue/Mallet (I think it's less than Statue/Statue...)
In general, the lamp is my way to go for most cards. Otherwise, I use the Doll for homing, Bomb for scattered bullets, Fabric for walls of bullets, and Mallet for cards where the boss is exposed for a long period of time.
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- Lamp/Statue
- Lamp/Mallet
- Statue/Statue
- Statue/Mallet (I think it's less than Statue/Statue...)
The lamp gives 11 seconds of invincibility, while the sum of statue invincibility time is 12 seconds, and furthermore that time can be broken up AND activated automatically in response to being hit. With mallet sub-item, the lamp goes up to 12 seconds, while the statue goes up to 15. As far as I can tell the lamp is a completely inferior item and should never be used under any circumstances.
Statue/statue just gives you 4 full uses and 1 crappy one. Statue/mallet gives 5 full uses and so is superior in every way.
So statue/mallet outclasses every other thing you listed in all aspects.
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So I was using Sakuya/Remilia in IN recently and I decided... no. I highly dislike the lack of better shots with these 2. Sakuya has a nice wide spread but none of the knives have a lot of power. And the fact that Remi's bats stick can be a curse as much as it can be a boon. Also their bombs both suck IMO and hardly cause an acceptable amount of damage to anything.
Should I give Magic Team a go?
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So I was using Sakuya/Remilia in IN recently and I decided... no. I highly dislike the lack of better shots with these 2. Sakuya has a nice wide spread but none of the knives have a lot of power. And the fact that Remi's bats stick can be a curse as much as it can be a boon. Also their bombs both suck IMO and hardly cause an acceptable amount of damage to anything.
Should I give Magic Team a go?
How is Remilia's bats sticking a curse? You can retap Shift to make them go to you if you need them. I don't think it's ever really a disadvantage to be able to place your familiars.
/big fan of Remilia's IN shot
Anyway, the popular opinion is that Border team is the best for survival, but all 4 teams are pretty good/balanced I would say. I would say go for Magic Team if you want.
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Remilia's bomb is very powerful if you use it on top of the boss.
Magic team is very inferior and more difficult to navigate stages with, due to the lack of spread and weak youkai shot. The only thing they have over Scarlet team is the strong human shot, but I figured you would rather spend time focused than unfocused.
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Reimu needle's except in PCB (MarisaA), UFO (SanaeB) and DDC (SakuyaA). Sometimes, the slow-moving Reimu in EOSD and PCB irritates me, but I cope with it by having to predict the bullet earlier.
As for bomb, Remilia's is my favourite due to high damage/ high spread and ability to position myself before the bomb dissolves.
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Remilia's bomb is very powerful if you use it on top of the boss.
Just in case, it should also be mentioned you have to hold the shot button. It's kind of weird that way.
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Yeah but you also need to hurriedly 1) get on top of the boss and then 2) hurriedly just before it ends get away from the boss. (About Remi's bomb)
Also I am not fond of the idea of having to unfocus even briefly for the sake of replacing something that sticks, when I'm very concentrated on trying to dodge, unless I am require to unfocus in order to move to a necessary spot I try to remain in focus. It doesn't really help that if I'm moving a bit in order to dodge something, and I need to unfocus for a second, I could end up sticking the bats away from the boss after I ALREADY had them in the right spot previously.
And I don't particularly care for her moving so fast for a focused shot also. I like to have my focused movement be quite slow, so to that end I've actually taken a liking to Marisa in several games because her movement while focus can end up almost deadly accurate for what I need it to be, whereas someone like Remilia in IN I can overshoot the dodge because of a mistap and crash into a bullet later. I know that's partially my fault, but it just feels weird to have a somewhat fast focused movement.
I guess the learning curve for their shots is a bit wonky, I dunno. I just don't find Remilia specifically in the Scarlet Team to be very friendly with people who are used to more conventional shot types.
Also I tried Magic Team. It was way too much fun. I did kinda bad because I wasn't concentrating but I enjoyed myself.
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Remi solo or Scarlet Team is the best for spellcard capturing during practice :D
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Generally, I prefer Needle Reimu because I'm more comfortable with a low focused speed and because I want to kill bosses quickly (before they kill me :V ). Homing Reimu is usually my second favourite, followed by Christmas Tree Marisa (EoSD and PCB only).
Exceptions: In IN, I almost always use the Border Team. In UFO, I prefer SanaeB because her shots have good spread and aren't terrible against bosses.
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I have played every shooter with Reimu A. I haven't beat them all yet, since I'm a bad player, but it's my favorite setup... switching to another style feels like I'm playing a different game at this point. :V
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All Games
Reimu- Homing shot
Hatters gonna hate
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MoF: Reimu A
SA: Reimu A, Reimu B
UFO: Reimu B, Sanae A
DS: Aya
TD: Sanae
HM: Kokoro
DDC: Reimu A, Sakuya A
For the Len'en games, Tsubakura.
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EOSD: Needles Reimu
PCB: Needles Reimu
IN: Border Team
MOF: Homing Reimu
SA: Reimu/Yukari - Needles
UFO: Sanae/Suwako (SanaeB) - Spread
10D: Reimu
DDC: SakuyaA.
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LLS: Reimu A
MS: Marisa
EoSD: Reimu A, Marisa A
PCB: Reimu A
IN: Border Team (normal run and spellcard practice), Remilia Solo (spellcard practice)
PoFV: Reisen, Eiki, Yuuka
MoF: Reimu A
SA: Reimu A
UFO: Sanae B
DS: Aya
TD: Reimu
DDC: Reimu A, Sakuya A (the latter is a bit too gimmicky for me)
ISC: Bomb/Doll
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EoSD: Marisa A
PCB: Marisa A
(the lasers in EoSD/PCB feels kind of lacking IMO)
IN: Magic Team (takes out familiars easily + PoC)
PoFV: Marisa, Yuuka (fast / wide)
MoF: Marisa A (Marisa B is bugged, inb4 bork replay comments)
SA: Reimu A (what else is there?)
UFO: Marisa A (10/10 power)
TD: Marisa (liking the missiles)
DDC: Marisa B (missiles are stronger)
Don't have anything much to choose a secondary; besides the topic was about primary anyway.
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Primaries
EoSD: Reimu B
PCB: Marisa A
IN: Border Team
PoFV: Marisa
MoF: Reimu A
SA: Reimu C
UFO: Reimu A
TD: Marisa
DDC: Sakuya A
Secondary
EoSD: Marisa B
PCB: Sakuya A
IN: Ghost Team
PoFV: Insert broken character here
MoF: Marisa B(roken)
SA: Reimu A
UFO: Sanae A
TD: Reimu
DDC: Reimu A
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Just in case, it should also be mentioned you have to hold the shot button. It's kind of weird that way.
Lol why would you ever let got the shot button anyway. 95% of the time you should be pressing it...
Anyway, my favorite shot types:
EoSD: ReimuB, even though I haven't actually gotten a 1cc with her, I can already tell she is the best for me!
PCB: ReimuB once again... borderline Overpowered. Yet still takes some skill to use properly. I love it.
PoFV: Eh, whoever I feel like. I tend to favor Lyrica because of the whole activating spirits thing is easy to control but any will do.
MoF: ReimuB once again...
SA: ReimuA...
UFO: SanaeB and ReimuA... Both are good. SanaeB wins though.
TD: Youmu I guess... But I really don't care about TD that much :/
DDC: SakuyA FTW
ISC Item combo:
MAIN Substitute Jizo
SUB Cursed Doll
Both maxed.
Sit on top of boss hitting her with all the shots while you are invincible for like 12 seconds thanks to the Substitute Jizo... this makes 99% of the scenes a freaking joke except for that one where Remilia explodes when she is near you...It trivializes the entire game basically along with making all other item combos useless...GG ZUN.
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Lol why would you ever let got the shot button anyway. 95% of the time you should be pressing it...
Maybe your habits are different from mine but I tend to let go of the shot button when I can, like after I bomb, or during survival spells. I find it best to rest that finger if I have the opportunity, it can get pretty tiring holding it down for hours...
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Maybe your habits are different from mine but I tend to let go of the shot button when I can, like after I bomb, or during survival spells. I find it best to rest that finger if I have the opportunity, it can get pretty tiring holding it down for hours...
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But don't the majorly of the bombs allow you to shoot while the bomb itself is working?
That would mean you end up doing less damage if you don't shot than if you would shot...
Obvious exceptions like Master Spark aside, of course...
Not shooting during Survival is more understable, though... I also don't do it. Besides it looks silly shooting at nowhere for 1min+ LOL...
Only problem is that when the Survival card ends, sometimes I accidentally bomb when I intended to push the shot button... that's a very anticlimatic way to lose a bomb :(
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Yeah on second thought I probably hold down the shot button for most bombs, hard to remember since I play without bombs most of the time anyway :3
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It greatly depends on your way of play, holding down the shot key.
I personally don't see it very important and only shoot when It's necessary in order to defeat an enemy, I feel that's a lot more relaxing. I'll admit that I'm biased from playing for points a lot, so I'm very used to just letting go of shot in order to control the enemy patterns, since that's how I've always done it.
Although I will say that it's a lot more comfy to not press to something constantly. Tap shift or wiggle around if bored.
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EoSD
Primary: ReimuA (Played with her the most; really gets through Stage 4 tumbleweed)
Secondary: ?
P. S. Screw EoSD!
PCB
Primary: SakuyaA (4 bombs, semi-homing shot)
Secondary: None! She works really well for survival!
IN
Primary: Border
Secondary: Netherworld (you know, focused wide-spread shots)
MoF
Primary: MarisaB (you know this)
Secondary: ReimuA
UFO
Primary: SanaeB
Secondary: SanaeA
TD
Primary: Reimu
Secondary: Sanae
DDC
Primary: SakuyaA
Secondary: ReimuB
Also, it takes too much coordination for me to control the shot key. I tend to always hold it down, even when it's not necessary.
Edit: fangames/other series now
RSS
MarisaC, if I'm not mistaken
Evanescent Existence
The only character unlocked. This thing is crap hard.
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Reimu A all the way!
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PCB:
ReimuA
IN:
Border Team
Eh f#ck it
BASICALLY ALL THE GAMES:
Homing Reimu
EXCEPTIONS:
SA's homing Reimu blows ass, so Needles for that (assuming I ever play SA).
I still prefer Reimu in TD, but I do like using Youmu from time to time.
Ph33r my inferior skills and resultant need to use a homing shot type.
Scrub-Tier Lower Echelon represent.
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PCB:
ReimuA
IN:
Border Team
Eh f#ck it
BASICALLY ALL THE GAMES:
Homing Reimu
EXCEPTIONS:
SA's homing Reimu blows ass, so Needles for that (assuming I ever play SA).
I still prefer Reimu in TD, but I do like using Youmu from time to time.
Ph33r my inferior skills and resultant need to use a homing shot type.
Scrub-Tier Lower Echelon represent.
Yeah, I sometimes tend to prefer homing Reimu for games I can't beat on Normal (IN doesn't count since I used 5 lives to clear it), but I always prefer other characters for PCB or TD, which I 1CCed on Normal defaults.
Amazingly, though, I can exploit MoF MarisaB to no end and still not 1CC the game on Normal.
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MoF MarisaB
That is not a shot type
That is an interactive experience
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That is not a shot type
That is an interactive experience
Could you please explain?
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Could you please explain?
When playing as MoF MarisaB, being unfocused between 3.00 and 3.95 Power is like transcending into an alternate reality where Touhou games play themselves, and all foes are made entirely of tissue paper; like a neverending Trance state.
It is the true way of being, and yet it is not a way of being at all.
It is infinite might, and yet no might whatsoever.
It is, and yet it isn't.
Congratulations, you have achieved enlightenment.
EDIT: And on a serious note, keep practicing - master the first few stages to get lots of resources, reach the final Spellcard with enough resources on-hand, and you can 1CC for sure. Then try it with ReimuA!
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When playing as MoF MarisaB, being unfocused between 3.00 and 3.95 Power is like transcending into an alternate reality where Touhou games play themselves, and all foes are made entirely of tissue paper; like a neverending Trance state.
It is the true way of being, and yet it is not a way of being at all.
It is infinite might, and yet no might whatsoever.
It is, and yet it isn't.
Congratulations, you have achieved enlightenment.
EDIT: And on a serious note, keep practicing - master the first few stages to get lots of resources, reach the final Spellcard with enough resources on-hand, and you can 1CC for sure. Then try it with ReimuA!
I was asking about the "interactive experience" part. And on a side note, does anyone know why that bug happens?
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I was asking about the "interactive experience" part. And on a side note, does anyone know why that bug happens?
I think it's because ZUN misplaced a decimal point or something, causing Marisa B's unfocused 3-power middle laser to become 10x as powerful.
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(4)bug for Marisa B:When unfocused,the right-handed main shot will do about 500 dps at L3. Vsyncpatch can correct the bug,but the replay can only be played for corrected players.
according to this, it's actually the main shot (the magic bolts). The right-hand stream hits for around 8x its normal damage
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EoSD: Marisa B with her good 'ol Master Spark, though when I started playing I'd go for Marisa A.
PCB: Sakuya A. Her homing shot is really comfortable. My secondary would be Reimu B (needles)
IN: Scarlet team all the way because of Remilia's placeable familiars, very useful.
PoFV: I don't really play PoFV much, not my favourite and could never get used to the gameplay, but I would usually go for Reisen or Sakuya (because they were my favourite characters at the time) and ocassionally Yuuka.
MoF: I go for Marisa C (Cold Inferno, Front&Lock, like Remilia in IN). To clear the Extra I went with ReimuA.
SA: ReimuA (Yukari) and MarisaC (Nitori) are the only characters that I've managed to 1cc the game with. ReimuA because it's the only reasonable shot type for the game, and MarisaC because I managed to make a wise use of Nitori's bomb.
UFO: SanaeB because of the bomb, it gives you a very long invincibility period. SanaeA is also okay.
TD: Marisa or Youmu if I want a challenge.
DDC: SakuyaA because I'm a sucker for Sakuya, or MarisaB because of the bomb. These characters are very broken anyway and I feel like a noob for preferring them.
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EoSD
-Master spark
PCB
-SakuyaB(est)
IN
-Alice "I actually have to move during the stage portion" umm uh Youmu
MoF
-ReimuC
I don't know any other Touhou game besides those four.
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EoSD: MarisaA (High damage.)
PCB: SakuyaA (Interesting homing, easy to use albeit hard to dodge)
IN: Reimu and Yukari :V
PoFV: Yuuka (Nice spread shot, moving unfocused is fast enough and precise)
MoF: ReimuA, MarisaA is secondary (ReimuA is easy to use, MarisaA has an interesting gimmick)
SA: ReimuA, MarisaC is secondary (ReimuA for dmg, MarisaC because of the bomb)
UFO: SanaeB, MarisaB is secondary (SanaeB and the toads of death, MarisaB cuz high range)
TD: Reimu, Sanae is secondary (High range, decent damage)
DDC: ReimuB (Easy to use)
If you count fighting games (though I'm not good at them)
IaMP (none), SWR (Marisa), HM (Reimu or Byaruken)
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EoSD ReimuB
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How have I missed this thread.
PC-98:
The only ones I ever open start at
PoD.D: Rikako. She is just immense fun.
LLS: Marisa.
MS: Yuuka. I'm not even that crazy about her as a character, but I do really well with her in this game.
Windows:
Don't play the fighting games but:
EoSD: Marisa A. It's pretty much the only way I can survive Patchy.
PCB: Again, Marisa A. As neat as Sakuya's daggers are, she just doesn't hit as hard.
IN: Magic Team for me, because I find fighting Reimu to be great fun. When I'm up for it, Ghost Team. Youmu's phantom shot sprayer can be really useful, especially in focus (kind of the same principle as Reimu C in SA, I reckon), provided you have the patience to learn how to use it.
PoFV: Reisen. I have no idea how the bunny does it, but when this game doesn't freeze up on me between stages, she gets me farthest of any of them.
MoF: Reimu B because hey, VoWG = forward focus. Alternately, Marisa C's freezing cloud is like Remilia's shot type in IN, only stronger (it seems?).
SA: Reimu B. Yes her main shot is weak, but I think the cost/benefit analysis for me is such that I get much further with that autocollect to boost resources in preparation for Orin, and have enough for Utsuho.
UFO: Marisa B when I'm being serious, because it's still ;-;
a goal of mine to see the "canon ending", and Sanae B when I'm just having fun. That spray of frogs and bomb that just keeps going and going.
TD: I honestly never open this game, but I did enjoy Youmu's sword slashing the hell out of resources.
DDC: Currently Marisa A, which will be followed by unbewitched Marisa. Because she's the only character I haven't yet cleared the game with, prosaicly enough.
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DDC: Currently Marisa A, which will be followed by unbewitched Marisa. Because she's the only character I haven't yet cleared the game with, prosaicly enough.
And MarisaB, when timing the bomb right, gives you tons of resources, especially in the Extra stage.
Updated Shot List
- PoDD: Reimu/Marisa
- LLS: Homing Reimu
- MS: Reimu/Mima
- EoSD: ReimuA/B
- PCB: Sakuya A/Reimu A
- IN: Border Team
- PoFV: Marisa
- MoF: ReimuA
- SA: ReimuA/B
- UFO: Homing Reimu/SanaeB
- TD: Reimu/Sanae
- DDC: ReimuA/B, MarisaA/B, Sakuya A. They're all so good!
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Alternately, Marisa C's freezing cloud is like Remilia's shot type in IN, only stronger (it seems?).
It is. MoF shot type power goes MarisaC > ReimuB > MarisA = MarisaB > ReimuC > ReimuA if memory serves, and it's not difficult to manipulate three ice shots on Kanako for VoWG.
I pretty much always go for shot types with fast movement and weird shots. I usually find out soon enough that all of these shot types are terrible.
SoEW - ReimuC
EoSD - MarisaB
PCB - I'd like to use MarisA, but instead I use whoever I feel like using at the time - the shot types are pretty well-done in this game.
IN - Scarlet Team
PoFV - Sikieiki or Cirno, because the game is much more fun when you don't let go of the "fire" key.
MoF - MarisaC
SA - There is only one shot type in this game, and it is sadly not Marisa+Alice.
UFO - Between SanaeB and ReimuA, I pick Sanae.
TD - Depends on my mood, but it won't be Sanae.
DDC - I freely admit I didn't play this long enough to bother with more than SakuyA. I don't remember having a preference other than finding ReimuB boring.
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Phantasmagoria Trues - ReimuB, and if you're not using a default shot type you're cheating.~
Evanescent Existence - Yabusame
Reactivate majestical imperial - Kuroji Team
Mystical Power Plant - There is only one shot type in this game, and it sadly does not involve Buddhist Buzzsaws.
Riverbed Soul Saver - MarisaB
White Names Spoiled Past - I would use ReimuB if it helped me get all the content, but it doesn't, so I use SanAe.