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The story of No Game, No Life centers around Sora and Shiro, a brother and sister whose reputations as invincible NEET hikikomori gamers have spawned urban legends all over the Internet. These two gamers even consider the real world as just another "crappy game." One day, they are summoned by a boy named "God" to an alternate world. There, God has prohibited war and declared this to be a world where "everything is decided by games" - even national borders. Humanity has been driven back into one remaining city by the other races..... but now they will have 2 secret weapons. "Well, let's start playing"
There are Light Novel at Baka-Tsuki (partially translated)
There is an ongoing manga (translated in your usual online reading sites)
and now there is an ongoing anime, first EP is out, second one will be aired in 2 days
I personally find this story AWESOME..... great characters, great premise, great artwork and the "game fights" are mind-boggling (seriously, the second real battle bring out NUCLEAR AND ASTRONOMICAL PHYSICS! O_O )
The protagonists:
Sora, older brother, 18-years-old virgin, an utter failure in normal life but incredible at reading peoples and finding out-of-the-box solutions.... Put him in front of a challenge and he turns into Lelouch ON STEROIDS....
Shiro, younger sister, 11-years-old supergenius, fluent in 16 languages, inhuman mathematical/logical capabilities resulting in her actually SOLVING CHESS!
Stephanie Dora, 18-years-old beautiful young noble, grandchild of the last Human King, despite being not so good at games and having lost her chance to become queen she desperately wants to save humanity. She almost immediately meets the sibling, and a battle with Sora will utterly change her life.... causing her to become the chew toy of the terrible duo :D
Oh, and if you think the 2 NEETS have the usual looks of shut-ins, think again.... especially in the manga! Shiro is the living dream of any lolicon/siscon and Sora often looks like a freaking Vampire lord! Stephanie..... she is the embodiment of cute 'n sexy..... i've been in love with her from the beginning.... :derp:
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This is all I know of the show, but it's all I need to get Dormio to watch it for me. (http://a.pomf.se/gjheyo.webm)
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This is all I know of the show, but it's all I need to get Dormio to watch it for me. (http://a.pomf.se/gjheyo.webm)
>Implying I don't watch every show from every season anyway.
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This series is going to be enjoyable.
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Watching this because it is by the guys who gave us the Usagi show about undead people etc. There is of course also Greed Packet Infinity, which never got to anime phase by the same author.
This author seem to have a lot of half cooked projects on his/her dish, sadly.
But the shared commonplace is the IMOUTO IS THE BEST GIRL IN THE GAME/ANIME doesn't change and I will stick on it simply because of this.
At some point our male protag will dress up as a trap.
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Ai Kayano as another emotionless beauty, must watch.
Breakneck pacing and fantasy setting at full throttle, excellent.
Amazingly fufilling visuals, good proper 2014 graphics and a helluva of special effects sprinkled for good, ecstatic.
Overall amazingly well-executed show, for a novel which I quitted during the prologue, the anime captures all the quintessence (if any, as I have aforementioned haven't actually finished the book lol) of it in one single motherfucking episode. This is going to be beautiful.
and Ai Kayano as female protag no shit Ai Kayano me please
EDIT: This is almost as great as Unbreakable Machine Doll, or maybe even better, just need to wait and see
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HOLY CRAP!!!
I just read the latest translated chapter of the Light Novel....... i take back what i've said about Sora being Lelouch on steroids......
Lelouch HAS NOTHING ON THIS GUY!! :o
It has taken me 3 rereads to actually understand his gamble, and what he actually did is a mind screw i would put on par with those of Higurashi!
The author is either a god of convoluted thinking or absolutely out-of-his-mind drunk with a side dish of a few tons of cocaine..... :V
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(Ma)Shiro and Sora(ta)
hello sakurasou
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I really think this has promise but I heard the fanservice will be unbearable. So, like, fuck, I'd already dropped it mentally.
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I really think this has promise but I heard the fanservice will be unbearable. So, like, fuck, I'd already dropped it mentally.
That's pretty much my take. This sounds like something I would really like in theory, but... Yeah.
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I really think this has promise but I heard the fanservice will be unbearable. So, like, fuck, I'd already dropped it mentally.
If the anime try to stay close to the Light Novel or the manga you can't even call it simple fanservice..... during half of one battle everyone present is COMPLETELY NAKED (yes, even 11-years-old Shiro) and the usual bath scenes are actually part of the story so no can do.....
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If the anime try to stay close to the Light Novel or the manga you can't even call it simple fanservice..... during half of one battle everyone present is COMPLETELY NAKED (yes, even 11-years-old Shiro) and the usual bath scenes are actually part of the story so no can do.....
Hopefully at least they'll use reasonable censoring or something so that it doesn't end up turning people off of what sounds like an otherwise awesome show.
I've already seen a couple shows that sounded great on paper but made me feel dirty just watching them so I dropped em. There was one from I think last season or the one before, I think it was "I couldn't become a hero, so I went into computer sales" or soemthing like that. Sounded funny, but the first like minute was enough to make me mentally tableflip and drop it like my hands were on fire. A shame, really.
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Well, for now the anime have shown LESS fanservice than the manga, only one pantyshot that frankly was almost unavoidable considering the position and the reason for doing that kind of shot....
Judging from the teaser this might slightly change in the next episode, since in the novel AND the manga Stephanie is dressed, while the teaser show her covered only by a blanket, obviously having lost her clothes in the poker game.
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This anime is totally one of the best ones from this season. I just love animes about games (SAO, Summer Wars).
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I know it's only the first episode, and they share the same VA, but atm the only thing that bothered me was the MC acting all Kirito in this new world already. Hopefully that'll change soon though :V
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If anything he's worse than Kirito, but at least he's entertaining about it unlike Kirito.
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If anything he's worse than Kirito, but at least he's entertaining about it unlike Kirito.
One thing that bothers me
>Tells viewers Sora has a communication disorder
>Has no problems negotiating and haggling for more days in the inn.
Still gonna watch this though because the whole show looks very promising still.
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One thing that bothers me
>Tells viewers Sora has a communication disorder
>Has no problems negotiating and haggling for more days in the inn.
Still gonna watch this though because the whole show looks very promising still.
It should happen in the next episode, but the explanation is that the two are almost entirely dependent on being within about ten feet of each other. Sora just breaks down into incoherent babbling and fear and Shiro starts doing similar.
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Anime of the year, 2014.
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Jesus christ the voice acting. My vocal chords hurt just from listening.
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It should happen in the next episode, but the explanation is that the two are almost entirely dependent on being within about ten feet of each other. Sora just breaks down into incoherent babbling and fear and Shiro starts doing similar.
Well that most certainly happened.
Well this episode already demolished my fears on the MC.
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I was waiting for the headbashing of poor Steph and they delivered..... laughed so hard i woke up my brother :D :D :D
Some minor difference or alteration in the order of scenes from the manga/light novel but all in all quite faithful (although i would have prefered Steph in her actual outfit instead of that rag..... she pull off the medieval noble mistress beautifully)
A note on Sora speaking pattern: in the light novels in the beginning he isn't so precise or crisp, he use very often "eh" "uhh" "mhh" and similar (like you would expect from a shut-in).... it's only after the bath scene that he start speaking like he does now....
Teaser for the next episode: get ready for the most absurd game of MAGICAL CHESS
ever seen. This will be the true test of this anime.... the games are awesome battle of wits and i really hope they do them justice!
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See, I can't stand not watching a show with
something that resembles chess, not any of that Code Geass shit
, but I really don't want to watch this show. Don't make this hard for me. Please. :V
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tfw your 11 year old imouto is the best wingman you'll ever have.
See, I can't stand not watching a show with something that resembles chess, not any of that Code Geass shit
, but I really don't want to watch this show. Don't make this hard for me. Please. :V
It devolves or evolves into a straight up RTS with charismatic sweeping commands, moral, and a third party forming, so I dunno if we want to call it 'chess' per say.
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See, I can't stand not watching a show with something that resembles chess, not any of that Code Geass shit
, but I really don't want to watch this show. Don't make this hard for me. Please. :V
Sorry, i'm feeling impish today and want to make it even harder for you :3
If you will like the upcoming match (and i'm pretty sure you will), let me tell you now: the second and third game are CRAZIER!
Remember when i said that the second one bring out nuclear and astronomical physics? Well, to give you an idea of just HOW CRAZY they will get, here is a small second spoiler about the 2nd game: if they keep close to the original novel, at one point there will be an horde of CTHULHUS running around the NAKED players
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Now i dare you to guess WHAT kind of game can cause that situation :D :V
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Watched the first episode earlier. I could handle it so far, but the fanservice could tip at any moment. I thought the first one was okay. I'll probably watch the next couple at least.
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I love how Shiro started to shiver hard and muttered under her breath. It makes me hug her hard.
Also WRYYYYYYYYYY
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I plowed through all four volumes in one shot after watching the first episode and its time for the second!
Holy crap I am absolutely baffled at this anime, it is clear that the studio put alot of effort into making thing easily understandable and presentable (by that I mean the boob squeeze
) while without butchering any of the main ideas of the novel. I can't wait for the next episode where (very minor spoiler that is probably okay to read but just to be safe) evil woman challanges the brothers in MOBA disguised as chess
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This is just damn quick to become my most favorite Gaussian Blur filtered anime of the season after MekakuCity Actors.
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I kinda watched the first two episodes over my brother's shoulder so I guess I'm following this now.
I like the princess.
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This Mondai-Ji 2.0 so I am obligated to like it. Not as TANOSHII as MDJ sadly enough. But it's still pretty fun, I just wish Sora was less of a dick.
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Is it me or Shiro from NGNL and Shiroe from Log Horizon are stereotypical badass geniuses with shiro in their name?
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I for one doesn't like the association people are putting up with Mondaiji for this series. In comparison Mondaiji features a repetitive routine stereotypical save-the-day Gary Stu as the MC characterized only by the fights he won and the rest of the MC cast being fillers who are shoved around to stall time when the MC cannot attend to the matter personally. while NGNL puts us up with an actual three dimensional character with obvious gaping weaknesses and flaws, namely, complete vulnerability to being cheated and emotional instability. In fact, the entirety of Volumes 2 through 4 of the novels are about the sibilings finding a way to circumvent the inherent weakness of the human race. At the end of the novel volume 4 it is even implied the male MC's talent isn't unique only to himself
(even a member of the magic using Elves race was able to think on a similar caliber as Sora)
. To cut it short I really just don't see the association people are drawing considering as I have pointed out Mondaiji is a series characterized by the exaggeration of myths and other legends being smashed to smithereens by completely overpowered ''puny humans out of nowhere'' while NGNL is actually about the struggles of a sibling with niche talents in unique aspects of life of which they apply in another world of a bored God who treat them as toys. But then again this is just episode 2 so I probably should just chill out and let people think it out themselves. :V
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Lol what? Both of the series are very similar--hyper-skilled humans get thrown into a magical land and get in TANOSHII adventures. Of course people are gonna compare them :V
I just personally found Mondai-Ji to be the perfect example of a really fun adventure story. I loved the christ out of it and I feel it had slightly better characters than NGNL. Yes, Izayoi was crazy-powerful but he was also REALLY fun and a cool character. Sora, on the other hand, is...kind of a dick. And a pompous dick at that.
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I like Sora being a dick more than Izayoi, and at least with Sora he can't muscle his way through anything like Izayoi can, which makes for more interesting events. It's the comparison between 'oh how is Sora gonna plot his way out of this' to 'now, how is Izayoi going to dick around before he inevitably just punches the baddy in the face'. It's like House. 90% screwing around, 10% okay let's actually solve the issue.
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I personally have no problem with Mondaiji through the first 3 books, but Amra pretty much nailed it. Again, this serves only as some's preference, but I generally am sure people get deterred/bored by repetitive stuff happening over and over again. I find it almost amusing that House is brought up, for I actually felt the same vibes from Mondaiji.
I apologize for being condescending about the show which you love, it is probably due to that I also share a mutual interest in Mondaiji at the beginning, and was exceptionally disappointed when they skewed my expectations by going ''oh wow people liked this lets just keep doing this over and over again'' instead of giving characters their proper depth. NGNL so far has shown in the novels that Sora (and Shiro) are persons with outstanding talents and gaping flaws alike, and the emotional complex which stems from the difference results in an interesting story being told. Again, its just personal preference, it is totally okay to just love seeing things explode, heck, even I like watching JoJo just to see things explode.
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I really stopped enjoying Mondaiji by the time of the Hamelin arc because I didn't actually feel any urgency. There wasn't any point where I didn't think Izayoi couldn't just have ended it as he wished.
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Sora, on the other hand, is...kind of a dick. And a pompous dick at that.
This is the one problem i have found up until now in the anime: since they are constricted by the time-limit of the episodes they cannot show Shiro and especially Sora in their full characterization.....
I'll try to explain for those that only watch the anime.
The siblings works under 3 rules that for them are absolute:
1) They are each other's WORLD. Their very existence is defined by the other one, the most important thing bar none.
2) Together they are utterly INVINCIBLE in any sort of game/challenge. Alone, they are almost unbeatable in their respective skills, and the other will come in to cover eventual weaknesses/cheats or to spring the trap that the first was preparing.
3) They DESPISE the world and humanity at large (although they admit there are exceptions).
This is their basic midset.
Other things you should know:
- they are perfectly ok with having sex with each other as soon as Shiro is of age (they are not blood-related). The appearance of Steph (and at least one other) seems to be pushing Sora into a possible Harem, with Shiro being ambivalent: on one hand, she doesn't want to be pushed to the side in Sora's world; on the other hand, she is ok with him having sex with at least Steph.
(the bath scene where Sora set up a trap to take shots of a nude Steph and Shiro intervene is quite different in the novel: there, Sora openly tells Steph that he will enjoy her nudity later. They are filming it and Shiro will check it later to be sure there isn't any underage nudity so that Sora can watch it)
- Sora isn't so much of a pervert or a deliberate dick like it appear in the anime. For example, when they speak with Steph the first time he initially chastise Shiro for fanning the flames of a stranger's anger by being blunt when they are alone in a different world, then he suddenly realize that it's a perfect situation to MAKE an ally out of Steph. Only then he begin being a dick to provoke her into accepting the bet
- The fact that the siblings have problem communicating with others (especially Sora since he speak more) will become BLATANTLY CLEAR soon enough. They say what they think without caring if they offend someone. Sora at one point will say something so blunt and cruel to Steph that she will run away in tears and almost decide to cut them off despite being in love. When they point out to him that he went overboard, he will do his damn best to make it up to her by proving that the cruel thing he said was wrong, all the while denying that he is doing it for her. (Yes, Sora will act TSUNDERE toward Steph! :D )
- When i said that Steph would become the chew toy of the siblings..... I WASN'T JOKING. You better get ready because she will suffer A LOT of humiliations because of both of them, although for the most part is played for laughs.
I think this little gem from the novel will explain it well:
Interrupting Steph who was speaking so eloquently, Sora placed a hand on her forehead.
"......Hm, it doesn't seem like you have a fever. What the- Steph, you just said something really smart!"
For some reason, Sora seemed terribly shocked.
"Is something wrong!? I, I'm sorry for not noticing earlier, I'll take you to a doctor immediately--"
"......Um, aren't you being just a bit far too impolite?"
Seeing Steph's shoulders trembling, Sora cried out.
"No, I mean-- it's you we're talking about, Steph!!"
"Yes it is, what of it!?"
Sora closed his eyes and shook his head.
"No, wait, wait, give me a sec, it can't be......"
He resembled a hardcore physicist who was seeing a real ghost right before his eyes.
Thinking, "This absolutely cannot be."
He swallowed painfully.
He spoke the incredibly hard to accept truth.
"I can't believe it, but......could it be.....Steph, you aren't actually an idiot!?"
Still harboring doubts, Sora cried out the inescapable reality.
The best part? He is partially JUSTIFIED in saying this! :D
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But isn't the quoted scene another piece of evidence that Sora is a dick? :V Traitor!
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But isn't the quoted scene another piece of evidence that Sora is a dick? :V Traitor!
There is a difference between a dick and a moron :V
They both like to mess with her because she is so easily riled up. Proof of this is that Sora use the same tactics with EVERYONE he meets, but when they don't work (like with the elf girl or Jibril) he stops because it's not interesting.
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Jibril's design is so over the top, I love it. It's a shame the anime didn't include the gradient everything, but it's still really bright. The VAs are doing a good job as well.
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I'm kind of glad they didn't include the gradients, the art is already blinding as hell. God knows what they would do with Shiro's hair going from purple to orange to GREEN.
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I just watched Eps 1 and 2 in a row and liked it so far. Seems interesting so I'm gonna keep watchin' ~
also, why does Stephanie remind me of Lenna from FFV so much?
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The premise is pretty cool, the animation is shiny, too bad the only thing this show gives me is the desire to throw the main character into a mincing machine. This guy's approaching Light Yagami levels of insufferability already and that's no mean feat.
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The premise is pretty cool, the animation is shiny, too bad the only thing this show gives me is the desire to throw the main character into a mincing machine. This guy's approaching Light Yagami levels of insufferability already and that's no mean feat.
I can see where you come from, but as i've said, this is a problem due to the time limit of the anime episodes.
I suggest you to read the Novel, it's only there where you can see Sora's sides that the anime can't show. He is more of a troll than a dick, but in normal situations he is a fairly normal NEET.... it's only when he face a challenge (be it a game or a verbal exchange with someone who is an "opponent") that he turns into an absolute monster...
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I guess I might read it, I am not too fond of reading light novels these days.
That said, holy shit shiny art is shiny, this show is pratically blinding to be watched on my 40inch super led amoled.
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Absolutely in love with this anime's art style and characters. This one's a keeper for sure.
Also the ED is absolutely adorable.
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Absolutely in love with this anime's art style and characters. This one's a keeper for sure.
Also the ED is absolutely adorable.
What does ED mean? :blush:
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The ending theme.
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The ending theme.
/facepalm ....it appears old age is catching up....
And i totally agree, really well done!
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shiro is best girl no j0ke
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I can't contain the laughter.
Ace Attorney, jojo's, turning Chess into an SRPG, turning an SRPG into a dating sim, rare footage of the both of them freaking out and how they fix each other
This arc is going on an episode longer than I expected but it was as good as I wanted it to be.
say hello to the Red pieces next episode.
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Today I learned that chess pieces are motivated by cute.
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Wat
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board game dating sim
make it happen japan
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Hehe, they did a good job :D Although as usual they had to cut short some of the inner reasoning and slow parts it was close to the original.
1) "Do you have flowers growing in your brain?" For some reason i laughed hard..... and the fact that a flower actually sprouted and had a face to boot really cracked me up. (P.S. Am i the only one thinking that Yuuka would be using this kind of insult? :D )
2) The reaction faces of the girls when Sora called the Black Queen beautiful
were amusing too. Even Shiro didn't expect that! :D
3) They made the elf girl
even cuter than the novel's illustrations (and with a voice that is audible chocolate)
4) @Amra say hello to the Red pieces next episode
Lol saying it like that you sound like the Red Army of Soviet Russia is coming
:D :D :D
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Oh my god these Jojo references
I am crying
I don't even watch Jojo and I am crying
laughing to tears
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i have no words.
this is fucking beautiful
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3) They made the elf girl
even cuter than the novel's illustrations (and with a voice that is audible chocolate)
NOTO MAMIKO IS THE BEST
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I'm not sure how to feel about this show right now. On one hand I like the art and I'm still hopeful that they will entertain good ideas. On the other holy hell this show is stocked with morons.
I... raged so hard about this anime. On the first two episodes I'll just say that if Steph thinks winning a game of rock paper scissors makes someone a genius then I expect I won't find anything in this show even remotely entertaining. Luckily I don't think Steph knows what she's talking about so I'll just move on.
Let me illustrate what I meant in the first paragraph. Sora picks apart Clammy's entire angle, both about how the system to pass on the crown is dumb, how she's exploiting it, and how her attempt to exploit it is dumb. Great, glad our main character picked up on that. However, later in the chess game Sora has a break down after not considering that the veiled girl would cheat again and in a different way. I think he even says something along the lines of not thinking she could do anything other then change the suits on cards. Its like one step forward and two steps back with this guy.
I'll keep watching for a bit but this show is trash. Between all the inconsistencies, bad decisions, and a particularly terrible choice as far as the show itself goes, I could easily see the events becoming straight up unintelligible.
@Espadas: I appreciate you sharing stuff from the books to help fill in some holes. I just want to point out that you shouldn't expect that to make the anime better since... it should probably stand on its own two feet. Also in the list of 3 rules, 2 isn't something you can enforce on yourself and 3 sounds like a horrible rule but I'm sure there's some reason for it.
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I'll try to answer your doubts ^^
I... raged so hard about this anime. On the first two episodes I'll just say that if Steph thinks winning a game of rock paper scissors makes someone a genius then I expect I won't find anything in this show even remotely entertaining. Luckily I don't think Steph knows what she's talking about so I'll just move on.
And you think right :P Steph have qualities that will come out later but being good at games and being a good judge of other people's motives/character she is NOT.
Although remember that she is not a "normal" human, she comes from a world where EVERYTHING is judged by games..... someone very skilled at them is basically seen as a mix between a rockstar, a worthy leader and a role model.
Let me illustrate what I meant in the first paragraph. Sora picks apart Clammy's entire angle, both about how the system to pass on the crown is dumb, how she's exploiting it, and how her attempt to exploit it is dumb. Great, glad our main character picked up on that. However, later in the chess game Sora has a break down after not considering that the veiled girl would cheat again and in a different way. I think he even says something along the lines of not thinking she could do anything other then change the suits on cards. Its like one step forward and two steps back with this guy.
Uh, this i honestly don't understand. Do you WANT him to be a boring invincible chessmaster that outwit without fail every single trick of every single opponent?
He is not perfect. Besides, magic is an IMMENSE advantage. The possibilities to cheat/influence the games are almost infinite, do you really expect him to grasp every single nuance of something so powerful not even 3 days after being tossed in that world?
@Espadas: I appreciate you sharing stuff from the books to help fill in some holes. I just want to point out that you shouldn't expect that to make the anime better since... it should probably stand on its own two feet. Also in the list of 3 rules, 2 isn't something you can enforce on yourself and 3 sounds like a horrible rule but I'm sure there's some reason for it.
Rule 2 is obviously what they THINK, not what reality is, but is kind of justified in their eyes. They have NEVER been defeated in ANY kind of game, Shiro can easily defeat the greatest masters and even the greatest computers in the most famous strategy game, together they have actually beaten the freaking GOD of a WORLD OF GAMES..... That kind of give you justification for being prideful ^^
Rule 3 is because of their upbringing. In the near future there is a very important discussion between Sora and an upcoming character that explain their reasons. Basically is this:
when the entire world look at you either as an hopeless failure (Sora) or a supergenius to experiment on (Shiro), if you finally meet someone who aknowledge you for what you are you latch onto him and tell the others to go screw themselves. And humanity have repeatedly shown in the real world that they make stupid decisions and have stupid "rules" in their lives. In the end, and i almost quote Sora, "humanity have the potential to be incredibly wise or incredibly foolish. Too bad they almost always choose the latter...", hence their disdain for humans.
Sora had basically given up on humanity until he met Shiro. In his eyes she is the living proof that there is a minuscule possibility for humanity of being something worthy.
Shiro had closed herself off from the world when even her parents were basically strangers to her that only wanted to understand her incredible brain, until she met Sora. He was the only one to understand her situation and accept her without judgind.
They basically put each other on a higher pedestral compared to themselves. Sora sees Shiro as the epitome of humanity's potential, and he try his best to be worthy of her, Shiro sees Sora as the only living being capable of understanding what even her cannot solve with her logic, and her only desire is to stay close to him.
Jeez, this turned into a wall of text.... :-/
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Honestly it kinda bothers me when people read into stuff like this anime way too much. I'm just enjoying the art and humour (which are both fantastic) and not really caring if the story has a few nonsense parts in it (it's a fantasy world with magic, there's probably going to be a few strange things going on).
It's a real downer when someone comes in and complains that it isn't perfect or that the characters make obvious mistakes or that they don't like the perceived message the anime is trying to convey. Like, that's when I can tell they're taking it too seriously.
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I don't see why complaining that the characters are boring or flawed in some way is "reading too much" into it. I don't really like the main guy either but the wacky hijinks are at least interesting.
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I don't see why complaining that the characters are boring or flawed in some way is "reading too much" into it. I don't really like the main guy either but the wacky hijinks are at least interesting.
I agree with all of this. It kinda bothers me when people bring up the whole "don't read into anything" thing. Why bother if you're not going to read into it? Don't downgrade your standards. It's okay to not like things, or parts of things.
That said, this show has made me laugh out loud every episode so far, so I'm going to keep watching for now despite problems. Doesn't mean I shouldn't talk about the problems.
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I dunno, but I guess presentation and execution are problems which we are having here. From what I've managed to understand the characters, while having exaggerated qualities like in any other fictional work, does have ample clues and crumbs building up to the behavior of which you see. Perhaps its due to theres too much going on the screen, or you got swarmed by the gags and jokes and missed the tiny details, or hell, shiny graphics. Either way from my point of view the show's characters are certainly not as detached from reality as you may think, here are my responses;
1.Rock-paper-scissors was exaggerated
-To be honest here I do not really understand how do you perceive this as silly. Because looking back at this little game at the first-person point of view, this Janken was a rapid Xanatos Chess level mind screw deployed by the male protag. Let us not forget Sora was approached by Steph in the midst of the night, right after waking up. To drive the point home he was even cuddling Shiro in the very bed they were sleeping on a minute earlier, Sora essentially guessed Steph's character (being brash and emotional) from a really short conversation, and determined a game which Steph would happily accept and Sora could swing it in his favour predictably. All this done in probably less than an hour. And again do not forget the biggest trap in the game was that the penalty for Steph whether she lost or tied were the same. This was not realized by Steph beforehand, and intentionally done by Sora. Steph had every reason to assume Sora is a brilliant tactician (which he is).
in a nutshell i don't understand your point so i restated in detail everything that happened minus the boobies in words so hopefully its more understandable this way
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2: Because Sora understood the King's Gambit was easily exploitable he was super dumb to have broken down when magic, which is something foreign to him, being used as an alternative way to cheat
I think the title pretty much held what I wanted to comment on already, you can't deal with what you have no experience in. In the same way you don't expect even a barrister to perform simple surgeon duties or summat. I won't spend time detailing on this since this is a really simple and straightforward concept. The two examples weren't connected at all.
As for the breakdown being exaggerated, we are discussing about the guy who would cower in fear and babble incoherently simply being out of sight with his sister. It is therefore apparent that it is Sora's (the siblings', actually) weaknesses as implied and brought up that they not only must stick to eachother, but cannot afford to have anything to go wrong. From their philosophy regarding playing games ''[] must not lose!'' to ''The world is a crappy game. (because there are no rules and everyone makes their ''moves'' sporadically)'' we can see a great deal into how dedicated and almost dangerously passionate the two are to maintain their ''perfect'' self-image at least in games. The sheer thought of losing and to lose their only emotional comfort zone is unbearable and unimaginable to them, hence breakdowns. The thing is that since the siblings talents compliment each other like Yin and Yang, when one is unsure, chances are that the other is, as you may recall that when Shiro broke down due to things not going her way, Sora reminded her that this was not her field of expertise and it was pointless to be hard on herself. Similarly, it also applied to Sora when he broke down himself due to magic being used. Therefore in my humble point of view I actually see episode 3 as a great way to cap off the character development of the protagonists by being the climax of all the dropped and implied hints at their strengths and weaknesses.
Yeah thats about it. Hopefully you will keep watching the show!
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I agree with all of this. It kinda bothers me when people bring up the whole "don't read into anything" thing. Why bother if you're not going to read into it? Don't downgrade your standards. It's okay to not like things, or parts of things.
It baffles me why people would read so deep into this, though. Maybe because I'm watching it mostly because it's entertaining and funny, not because I'm looking for an air-tight sealed piece of nuanced fiction, in which characters can have no faults, most dramatic and well-written story of all time etc etc etc
Maybe I just have bad taste or something.
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tbh the first episode drawn me in the novels because its awesome and now i am diehard 1337 for the air tight perfect flawless fabugorgerlous story.
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where is today episode
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its awesome
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Brb
playing Civ V so I can be a successful King of an entire race
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A little spoiler that will probably increase your desire for the next episode: in the latest episode at one point we get an eyeful of an impressive pair of
angelic
boobs (not Steph's..... despite them being impressive too /drool....)
She is the next character to be introduced :*
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It baffles me why people would read so deep into this, though. Maybe because I'm watching it mostly because it's entertaining and funny, not because I'm looking for an air-tight sealed piece of nuanced fiction, in which characters can have no faults, most dramatic and well-written story of all time etc etc etc
Maybe I just have bad taste or something.
I usually do the same as you. I watch stuff to relax and have fun.
That said, things are getting interesting. Lookin' forward for the next episode~ ^-^
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I didn't enjoy this episode much. It felt like it spent a lot of time reiterating things we knew already and generally not being that funny. However it did set up a definite goal and endpoint for the series, so good on that.
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Oh man.
Steph.
Oh man. What are you doing.
Also, HILARIOUS ENGRISH YUKARI TAMURA ANGEL
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(http://i.imgur.com/b5Ej0VT.jpg)
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Fucking angels.
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Fucking angels.
I'm sure they will eventually.
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Yes time for some Angel Boobies
And obligatory beach scene
if this fight follows the LN
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Lewd as fuck.
e: I don't care how much of that shiritori actually made sense it was fucking great.
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Casting Yukarin as Jibril was a fantastic decision. That everything.
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Completely satisfied with the anime adaptation, for one who reads the LNs.
I just wished they put a little Sanity Meter when Steph was being chased by (a) Lovecraftian horror
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This episode made my lolicon side happy... Also
wingboners
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Welp, my sides are gone.
EDIT: "I used to be a gamer like you, then I took an arrow to the knee. [sic]" (after the credits)
Wow, they're just showing off, now.
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Completely satisfied with the anime adaptation, for one who reads the LNs.
I just wished they put a little Sanity Meter when Steph was being chased by (a) Lovecraftian horror
＼(・ω・＼)SAN値！(／・ω・)／ピンチ！
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Ugh. This episode grossed me out. Think I'm done. Also it wasn't that interesting aside from the gross fanservice.
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Ugh. This episode grossed me out. Think I'm done. Also it wasn't that interesting aside from the gross fanservice.
Considering this anime is classified under "ecchi" did you expect anything else?
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Considering this anime is classified under "ecchi" did you expect anything else?
I could barely handle it up to now. This was inevitable.
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The entire episode was hilarious and really well done for me, although they left out one litte exchange that would have been useful.... are they trying to make Sora even more perverted than he already is?
In the LN Sora used the word "pussy" (LITERALLY) not just because he is a pervert or to distract Jibril, but to check if the words used could physically affect the players without stopping them from playing..... it was an important step(h) to prepare his trap but they glossed over it....
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nothing much happened i guess
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I could barely handle it up to now. This was inevitable.
It doesn't feel forced though. Like in ... SAO... which was a shitty anime at the end.
The reason for this might be, that the protagonist is already potrait as being a pervert :V
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Geez this anime just continues to be everything I want. Cute, funny, action, plot, lots of references. It almost feels like a Shaft anime, actually.
EDIT: But it's Mad House, which explains why it has such superior quality. I fucking love Madhouse.
This episode seemed just a bit predictable but I still enjoyed it anyway, and I like how it solved one of the bigger mysteries of the anime so far.
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It feels like we're moving at a snails pace (LN readers can correct me here), hopefully the next episode will have a much faster pace.
I'm enjoying all the fanservice, in particular with Shiro.
@above:
Where did you get the idea that Madhouse has ``superior quality'' over SHAFT?
Clearly the latter has way more money to play around with.
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Generic definition of quality - "oh man, everything looks really gorgeous." Usually achieved by descriptive backgrounds and consistently good-looking characters, and special effects. SHAFT is consistent at... other, less standard things. Granted, it's interesting, this show likes having this weird filter over everything ever. That isn't the norm for Madhouse, I think.
I bit the bullet and caught up with this a few days ago. This episode was good. I'm swallowing the fanservice, sort of. So long as the content itself keeps making up for it as it has thus far. Show is clever in its own way and I like the soundtrack.
I want to make a montage of Jibril faces. Oh man.
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It feels like we're moving at a snails pace (LN readers can correct me here), hopefully the next episode will have a much faster pace.
I'm enjoying all the fanservice, in particular with Shiro.
@above:
Where did you get the idea that Madhouse has ``superior quality'' over SHAFT?
Clearly the latter has way more money to play around with.
Oh no shaft is great too, I love Shaft, but I think Madhouse has to be my favorite of all.
Although I will argue Shaft has a bad habit of having their initial release of things being pretty low quality, only for them to fix it in DVD releases.
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Generic definition of quality - "oh man, everything looks really gorgeous." Usually achieved by descriptive backgrounds and consistently good-looking characters, and special effects. SHAFT is consistent at... other, less standard things. Granted, it's interesting, this show likes having this weird filter over everything ever. That isn't the norm for Madhouse, I think.
I bit the bullet and caught up with this a few days ago. This episode was good. I'm swallowing the fanservice, sort of. So long as the content itself keeps making up for it as it has thus far. Show is clever in its own way and I like the soundtrack.
I want to make a montage of Jibril faces. Oh man.
There was this weird vampire anime about an immortal dude that had the same filter, I think. Probably Madhouse too.
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There was this weird vampire anime about an immortal dude that had the same filter, I think. Probably Madhouse too.
Maybe you're thinking of Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi. Same author, different studio (Zexcs).
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That's it. Thanks.
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I thank you OP with the bottom of my heart for introducing me to this. My life is now complete.
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So, yes, this show's best feature hands down is the Lelouch-style speeches. They're better than those, actually. The staff are doing a good job.
That twist at the end was a Good Move. Maybe the ending won't be rushed after all? It didn't seem like there was enough time to wrap up whatever it is they had planned, but now I'm optimistic.
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Wow, holy crap this episode.
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Ah yes,
Fake End. Time for Kurami/Fii side stracking.
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Holy fuck
Holy shit.
Sora just logged the fuck out of Disboard
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This episode made me wanna hug Shiro so much...
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the water of the lake is surprisingly bright
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Why hasn't anyone praised the ending? It was brilliantly executed.
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Why hasn't anyone praised the ending? It was brilliantly executed.
Here's hoping for a corrupted OP next episode as well.
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This episode was all of my :3.
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wat i thought crunchyroll is like a day late with everything whyyyy
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wat i thought crunchyroll is like a day late with everything whyyyy
Not this season, at least.
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so i just finished the episode
Its fantastic but its not enooooooooougghhhhhh, This is the kind of show that should've went 26 episodes. The pacing is too rushed.
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I reached the end of it and thought 'wow it's already been 30 minutes?' but I still really enjoyed this episode regardless.
Also aag shiro is so endlessly cute.
I figured out what was going on when someone suggested they were playing a game, because I remembered back to the end of the previous episode when the Sora was playing the same game on his handheld
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I reached the end of it and thought 'wow it's already been 30 minutes?' but I still really enjoyed this episode regardless.
Also aag shiro is so endlessly cute.
I figured out what was going on when someone suggested they were playing a game, because I remembered back to the end of the previous episode when the Sora was playing the same game on his handheld
The end of episode was full of visual and sound glitches, King Crimson is a Jojo character who could erase time (mind the day gap on Shiro's phone) and it was already said few times that "the game has begun". Aside from that Disboard world IS a game itself, it was way to easy to find out that Sora was trapped in a game.
Also this made me love Shiro even more.
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THIS EPISODDDEEEEEEE
NEVER HAVE I WISHED MUTILATION OF CLIFFHANGERS SO HARD
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The ending killed me.
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left4waifu time
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Do you like Cliffhanger? We do. So here you hav*ending*
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djflsdfjoasdfjdofidjfodifj
this show.
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I spitted my coffee all over my table.
This show is da best.
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the references killed me
also cliffhangers
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oh comeon vampire girl would've been a perfectly good way to end the season :I
this was cool though
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What a fantastic, fantastic show.
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Spoiler tags because killjoy.
At the end, the thing that made me follow this show didn't come through for me. I can't be absorbed by the speeches and stratagem when the actual content is so dumb. "Do you like the games? Well, do you? You do. You're one of us. Gaming is love, gaming is life." Not even talking about this. Or the crap logic, like leaving a differential equation blank because BLANK (please kill me). Or how infantile things get sometimes. This show makes a big deal of how games are this world's replacement for wars and bloodshed, so they're how you're gonna fight other nations for resources. So what's up with the "it's a game" mantra? It's not like you're not highlighting the resources part every single episode, or they're not a key aspect to the coherence of the plot/schemes. And when representatives of a people with years and years of supposed political experience fold like they have no opinions of their own to this rambling kid, it feels like the ramblings lose their meaning. It makes me mad. Shows that make you mad are the worst.
I'm not even sure I'm nailing the right reasons, but what I thought is this show's strength and only redeeming quality sure doesn't feel like it to me anymore. If I want to watch people one-up themselves, there's Jojo's, and I don't even like Jojo's that much. The animation is nice, the show isn't boring, but it sure makes me mad at the creators. And I don't feel it's good for my health.
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Xanatos Gambit taken to the logical extreme.
Anyway this seemed like the last episode, but I think this was easily the best anime of the season.
I'll easily refute BT's thoughts because it does make sense that people who think they never lose easily fold when they're handed just that. People hate being outsmarted, it's a shock to them. Regarding 'everything is dumb', I wasn't expecting strategy so verbose it would take a war general to get it. It's anime, it's naturally going to be dumbed down to a large extent, because that's more entertaining. I also thought the concept was a clever take and a good way to avoid another violent murder-them-all show while still having lots of interesting tactics-based plotlines.
I dunno, I always hear lots of petty complaints about good animes, which bother me ('Kill la Kill has a dumb concept about chicks stripping!' 'Gurenn Lagann is is nonsensical and unrealistic!')
In any case this anime was extremely fun to watch. Sora and Shiro are really clever, especially Sora since he was obviously the main protagonist, and watching his ideas and pieces come together in the perfect plan was entertaining, and even made me go 'holy cow you thought that far ahead?', which was obviously the intention both in-character and out.
The art for this was also visually stunning, I really, really, really enjoy anime with non-generic (and still high quality) art styles. I really hopes this gets more seasons on its belt, because it really deserves them.
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You know, I'm not going to start analyzing the show to figure out exactly what messages made me dislike the whole thing. Sometimes you can ruin something for yourself pretty easily, so something that's 'petty' to you can be pretty significant to others. You can like this show for what it is - I'm not trying to refute that it has something to like. I'm just saying, to me, those things failed to make the show as a whole worth it in the end, probably. These things are hard to judge sometimes, but I'm looking back at the show's high points right now and I'm like, I guess it was cool. But I won't take from it too many fond memories.
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Can't you guys just turn off your brain and enjoy the show
I remember when people tried to read Kill la Kill and other animes jesus christ
It's like watching Kamen Rider you just sit back and shut off logic for a moment and enjoy all the lights sounds and exciting tension and outcomes things that they throw at you
Although for the ending that was new. I was pretty sure that at the end of the LN miko never did summon the Old Deus and Sora never mentioned it. I also like how they showed miss lewdvampire and miss sexyoursoulout at the end. I guess they want the anime to have a little twist from the LN
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the vampire is a dude
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Naomi Shindou (the VA for fox priestess) has an amazing voice goddamn.
Also fantastic anime. Will they make a season two, or are they just going to leave it at that and let the fans read the LN instead?
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Kyoto accent is way too good.
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the vampire is a dude
i can dream okay
traps are fine too