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Title: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Mino ☆ on April 07, 2014, 10:11:42 PM
Let's bring this back.

Mino's Challenges - Round 5

Survival Challenge

Game: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil

Condition: Clear No Bombs with as little deaths as possible.
Difficulty: Only Normal and Lunatic modes allowed.
Shottype: You may only use a MarisaB.
Rank: This will be ranked by least number of misses, and then by score.
Format:
Challenge - Difficulty
Name - Score - Stage - Misses/Deaths  - Replay
Example:
Survival - Lunatic
Mino - 100,000,000 - C - 8 - Replay

Rankings:

Normal:
1. Van - 205,694,940 - C - 0 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32840)
2. Star King - 187,445,310 - C  - 2 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32826)
3. Karisa - 181,460,860 - C - 2 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32832)
4. L3PiK - 142,900,040 - C - 2 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32827)
5. Validon - 121,851,680 - C  - 3 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32799)
6. RAINSKY -129,479,710 - C - 4 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32764)
7. Lyv - 116,188,640 - C - 5 - replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32825)

Lunatic:
1. dxk - 234,022,610 - C  - 4 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32867)
2. Van - 228,859,010 - C - 6 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32759)
3. Cactu - 143,471,600 - 4 - 9 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32757)
4.

Scoring Challenge

Game: Mountain of Faith

Condition: Score as high as you can!
Difficulty: Normal, Lunatic, and Extra allowed!
Shottype: You may only use ReimuA
Rank: This will be ranked by score.
Format:
Challenge - Difficulty
Name - Score - Stage - Replay
Example:
Scoring - Normal
Mino - 100,000,000 - C - Replay

Rankings:

Normal:
1. ElD - 1,643,571,180 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32834)
2. Nereid - 1,566,165,220 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32779)
3. Karisa - 1,379,946,010 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32763)
4. L3PiK - 948,420,210 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32768)
5. dxk - 892,236,200 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32747)
6.

Lunatic:
1. dxk - 1,502,558,450 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32748)
2.
3.

Extra:
1. Star King - 977,855,150 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32775)
2. L3PiK - 945,977,790 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32774)
3.

Short Challenge

Game: Undefined Fantastic Object

Condition: Score as high as you can in UFO's Extra Stage
Difficulty: Extra only.
Shottype: You may use either SanaeB or MarisaA. They will be ranked separately.
Rank: This will be ranked by score.
Format:
Challenge - Shot Type
Name - Score - Replay
Example:
Short - MarisaA
Mino - 10,000,000 - Replay

Rankings:

SanaeB:
1. Karisa - 507,283,910 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32909)
2. L3PiK - 335,441,470 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32769)
3.

MarisaA:
1. Emerald - 248,558,450 - Ex - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32916)
2.
3.
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And that's all! I hope you participate and enjoy!

Deadline: April 21, 2014 at 12:00 PM GMT
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Oh on April 08, 2014, 05:31:57 AM
Scoring - Normal
dxk - 892,236,200 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32747)

Scoring - Lunatic
dxk - 1,502,558,450 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32748)

So many misses!
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: ElDestructoe on April 08, 2014, 07:17:02 AM
Scoring - Normal
ElD - 1,329,312,960 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32749)

http://puu.sh/80x0R.png
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: cactu on April 08, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
Survival - Lunatic
CAC2 - 143,471,600 - 4 - 0 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32757)

pretty amazing
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: ark on April 09, 2014, 07:03:54 AM
Let's do this.
Scoring - Normal
Nereid - 1,289,990,710 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32762)


2 miss piece of poop with no route.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Karisa on April 09, 2014, 08:48:43 AM
Yay, challenges again.

Scoring - Normal
Karisa - 1,379,946,010 - C - 0.0% - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32763)

No deaths, but a pretty bad stage 4, and panic-bombing on Kanako cost 3 sets of full-power point items there (including the large set before the final spell). I'm sure the MoF specialists here could surpass this easily with a no-death run of their own-- let's see some competition.

I may or may not improve this-- the UFO Extra challenge seems interesting, and learning a route for that stage could take a while.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: rsy_type1 on April 09, 2014, 11:47:09 AM
Survival - Normal
RAINSKY -129479710 - C - 4 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32764)

 :D
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: LepLep on April 09, 2014, 10:19:43 PM
Scoring Normal
L3PiK - 948,420,210 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32768)

Short Challenge - SanaeB
L3PiK - 335,441,470 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32769)

Poopy
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Mino ☆ on April 09, 2014, 11:01:28 PM
Update checkpoint.

Also added Van's EoSD entry since he is banned and is unable to.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: LepLep on April 10, 2014, 03:32:04 AM
Scoring - Extra
L3PiK - 945,977,790 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32774)
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Star King on April 10, 2014, 03:50:57 AM
Scoring - Extra
Star King - 977,855,150 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32775)

I seem to have retained more of my muscle memory and route memory than I expected, so this wasn't too difficult to pull out. I accidentally ended Kanako's first spell when I didn't mean to, though, so it ended way too early (I'm not sure how you even make such a big mistake on something so lenient, that never happens), and I messed up my (wreath's) Red Frog route (but my slight improvisation turned out pretty alright). Didn't bother optimizing most of the nonspells, didn't bother doing Suwako's first spell vertically.

Because I got this run relatively quickly, I almost want to improve my old record now...
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: ark on April 10, 2014, 04:52:42 AM
Scoring - Normal
Nereid - 1,566,165,220 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32779)

Lost huge points in stage 5. Time to learn a proper route now I guess.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: ElDestructoe on April 10, 2014, 11:47:38 AM
Scoring - Normal
ElD - 1,629,938,850 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32782)
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Mino ☆ on April 10, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
Update Checkpoint. Nice job, everyone!
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Validon98 on April 11, 2014, 08:37:54 PM
Survival - Normal
Validon - 121,851,680 - C  - 3 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32799)

Could have perfected Remilia if it hadn't been for that stupid death right at the first nonspell. Typical deaths to Sakuya are typical in the meanwhile.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Mino ☆ on April 12, 2014, 03:54:49 AM
Update Checkpoint.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: I have no name on April 12, 2014, 05:20:50 AM
I had a 5 death run of normal that I didn't even let save the high score due to the way the deaths happened.
1: Marionette: I will begrudgingly accept this one, I should have been more careful but a bullet turning around from below is pretty cheap.
2: Star of David
3: Star of David (joke tier spell, kind of stopped caring after the second death)
4: Scarlet Shoot
5: Scarlet Shoot (due to forgetting how the normal mode version behaves and trying to do it like Scarlet Meister)

0 or 1 deaths should be pretty easy to do if I re-learn those 2 patterns, since I wasn't really threatened by anything else that wasn't the very end of Stage 4 when I messed it up.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Reiko on April 13, 2014, 09:12:17 AM
Survival - Normal
Lyv - 116,188,640 - C - 5 - replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32825)

Will aim for a 2- or 3-miss run if I play this again.
I tried the scoring challenge, but couldn't even get 500M. That was embarassing... :<
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Karisa on April 13, 2014, 09:48:58 AM
I tried the scoring challenge, but couldn't even get 500M. That was embarassing... :<
Try for a no-death run. Dying has a huge penalty on score in MoF-- I think not dying should be enough for 1 billion at least, if you collect the star items, go to the PoC when safe, and know how not to lose major faith at the start of stage 3.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Reiko on April 13, 2014, 10:28:21 AM
It shouldn't be too hard, but I'm afraid I just don't care enough about scoring to actually play properly or learn any basic strategies, especially on lower difficulties.
At least I gave it a shot...
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Star King on April 13, 2014, 08:36:52 PM
Survival - Normal
Star King - 187,445,310 - C  - 2 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32826)

Threw a run of this in. Deaths to Star of David and Scarlet Netherworld ;_; both really stupidly. May or may not improve
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: LepLep on April 13, 2014, 10:17:19 PM
Survival - Normal
L3PiK - 142,900,040 - C - 2 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32827)

Blaaaaah
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Karisa on April 14, 2014, 05:39:49 AM
Survival - Normal
Karisa - 181,460,860 - C - 2 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32832)

Spontaneously attempted this because why not? It's not like we have to submit particularly serious runs after all-- the more submissions the better, I think.

The deaths were to Marionette and Scarlet Netherworld.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: ElDestructoe on April 14, 2014, 03:26:17 PM
Scoring - Normal
ElD - 1,643,571,180 - C -Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32834)
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Oh on April 17, 2014, 01:32:19 AM
Survival - Lunatic
dxk - 234,022,610 - C  - 4 - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32867)
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Mino ☆ on April 17, 2014, 04:11:48 AM
Phew. Update Checkpoint. Also, added Van's Normal EoSD NMNB entry to the list.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Karisa on April 19, 2014, 08:52:09 AM
Short - SanaeB
Karisa - 507,283,910 - C - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32909)

Unrouted in the second half of the stage, aside from having a blue UFO near the end. It's actually surprisingly hard to have an all-blue route (after the post-Kogasa free rainbow) there. I didn't bomb Kogasa's final for graze either since I kept getting game overs when trying to develop a second-half route (also I'm not sure how much graze is needed to compensate for the ~15m spell bonus). Nue went well enough anyway aside from failing Green UFO.

Is anyone else planning on trying this?
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Emerald Mint on April 20, 2014, 07:05:19 AM
Short - MarisaA
Emerald - 248,558,450 - Ex - Replay (http://replays.gensokyou.org/download.php?id=32916)

Well a try is better than no try. =)
Reached Nue Sign - Undefined Darkness.
Title: Re: Mino's Challenges - Round 5
Post by: Emerald Mint on April 20, 2014, 08:25:15 AM
So I tried to graph the point from the 3rd midboss spell, Karisa. Assuming no UFOs, it requires 11900 graze to make up for the lost spellcard bonus if all items are collected at full value..  In SOC's replay, he gains 11k graze, but loses 2 lives, costing him 6m. If you multiply and tally up the UFO bonuses, he gets 7496 point items from UFOs. As such it only requires about 2000 graze to make up for the lost spellcard bonus, as well as 800 graze for those 2 lives, though this assumes the route doesn't get screwed up. These numbers will be dependent on how you can handle things, so they might need to be tweaked a bit.