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~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 17, 2013, 10:11:56 PM

Title: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 17, 2013, 10:11:56 PM
A thread for talking about DotA 2. No clue why you'd want to talk about DotA 2 though.



DotA 2 is the sequel to the popular custom map DotA on Warcraft III. DotA is available on the steam platform and is free to play. You can find information about DotA 2's launch here (http://www.dota2.com/thebetaisover). If you already know how steam works, the DotA 2 page can be found here (http://store.steampowered.com/app/570/). The game has no region locks so you can play with your friends from all over the world, provided you don't mind having higher ping depending on which server you play on.



Great guides for beginners, READ THEM:
> How to play DotA 2 in 4 minutes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akUNmFAzS98)
> Welcome to DotA. You suck. (http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck)
> Total newbie guide (http://www.playdota.com/guides/masterjas-total-newbie-guide)
> Lane Control (http://www.playdota.com/learn/lanecontrol)
> Ultimate guide to warding (http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/blogs/DotA/1092/Dota-2-Ultimate-Guide-to-Warding/)
> Character guides from DotA at playdota.com (http://www.playdota.com/guides) (not newbie friendly due to the WC3 icons)
> Alt-tab guides for every hero (http://www.dota2alttab.com/)



Remember to check people's profiles on the forum to see if they want to reveal their steam ID or not!



The main MotK DotA group tends to hang around on the #dots-meido channel on PPIRC (http://webchat.ppirc.net/?channels=dots-meido).
We have players of varying skill levels so you should be able to find people around your level without too much difficulty.
We also just chat and play other games whenever we feel like it.
You should come hang out with us sometimes!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 17, 2013, 10:14:09 PM
http://www.saltydota.com/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 17, 2013, 10:17:07 PM
I'm lazy and don't feel like going to the old thread to grab this link again so I'm just reposting the 6.79 changelog here (http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=109826).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on October 17, 2013, 10:37:21 PM
 Skeleton King
- Base Intelligence increased by 5
- Removed Mortal Strike active
- Vampiric Aura now provides full effectiveness on ranged units
- Reincarnation slow increased from 30% to 50%
- Reincarnation slow AoE increased from 700 to 900

Skeleton King only needs two fingers to play again :D
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 17, 2013, 10:39:17 PM
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- Can no longer orb-attack while attack restricted (such as Ethereal or Frostbite)
Fuck Huskar.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on October 17, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
Oh yeah, for that matter:

Damnit why do you have to bring me more Salty stuff? I'm already addicted to Saltybet as it is.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Conqueror on October 17, 2013, 10:46:06 PM
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- Sprint manacost removed (was 50)

:>

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- You can now continuously use Reality on your illusions
- Reality cast point improved from 0.3 to 0

I suddenly realize why I was never able to cast reality succesfully, I didn't know there was that much of a delay.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 17, 2013, 10:46:19 PM
Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Conqueror on October 17, 2013, 10:49:56 PM
update to update
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-   Fixed various tooltips
-   Fixed Armlet Toggle still having a small cooldown
-   Fixed Bloodseeker getting slowed down by haste
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-   Fixed Bloodseeker getting slowed down by haste
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-   Fixed Bloodseeker getting slowed down by haste
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on October 17, 2013, 10:50:20 PM
Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.

What salt? I just go to the mines.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 17, 2013, 10:52:41 PM
You're not very good at this salt business are you?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on October 17, 2013, 11:19:33 PM
SANIK THE HEDGEHOG (http://i40.tinypic.com/j75gk0.jpg)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on October 17, 2013, 11:38:41 PM
I like how Silencer no longer needs Glaives of Wisdom to steal Int. Now I can build Silencer with Curse of the Silent/Last Word until level 8, grab Glaives at level 9, ult at 10 and 11, then glaives until stats. :D

I mean, glaives isn't that good until your Int is high, and Last Word/Curse are excellent harassment/killer.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on October 18, 2013, 12:01:06 AM
You're not very good at this salt business are you?

No. No I am not.

Nor am I good at the DotA busines either. Maybe the two will cancel each other out?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on October 18, 2013, 12:36:45 AM
http://www.saltydota.com/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on October 18, 2013, 12:37:58 AM
Requoting becz this is the best thing evr
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Namago on October 18, 2013, 12:46:34 AM
This new patch will destroy everything we knew about the game.  :D

(I'd like to play with some MoTK people, if you'd like to play please add Namago on steam, any skill is cool!)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on October 18, 2013, 01:15:31 AM
(http://puu.sh/4SJr7.png)

(http://puu.sh/4SJt4.jpg)

DONDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 18, 2013, 01:28:36 AM
(I'd like to play with some MoTK people, if you'd like to play please add Namago on steam, any skill is cool!)
You're the guy with the Meepo picture and Fred on your profile, right?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on October 18, 2013, 02:10:40 AM
i like the venomancer changes, keep plague wards at lvl1 and max poison sting.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on October 18, 2013, 02:23:05 AM
culling blade changes are silly

infinite culling seems really stupid and aghanims now seems like a priority pickup to increase culling threshold
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on October 18, 2013, 02:30:21 AM
culling blade changes are silly

infinite culling seems really stupid and aghanims now seems like a priority pickup to increase culling threshold

in other words, Axe became Darius.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on October 18, 2013, 02:44:21 AM
in other words, Axe became Darius.

darius is arguably worse because he deals actual damage instead of a threshold imo- so the dunk threshold can grow and spiral out of control

and well he also has a time limit before he goes on cooldown atleast, this is pre-change darius shit here
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Formless God on October 18, 2013, 03:26:28 AM
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- Poison Attack cooldown reduced from 4/3/0/0 to 0
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 18, 2013, 03:41:05 AM
darius is arguably worse because he deals actual damage instead of a threshold imo- so the dunk threshold can grow and spiral out of control

and well he also has a time limit before he goes on cooldown atleast, this is pre-change darius shit here
How do either of those make Darius worse?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Conqueror on October 18, 2013, 04:01:45 AM
i think he's saying worse as in "broken gg"
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on October 18, 2013, 06:05:53 AM
And of course neckbeards had to show up and start spewing rape jokes and stuff and ruin saltydota for me :

e: salty gets online and lols a couple of the rape jokes and stuff yeah I'm done fuck neckbeards
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Namago on October 18, 2013, 06:12:59 AM
You're the guy with the Meepo picture and Fred on your profile, right?

Hey. Yes, oops. I probably should've mentioned. This is my profile http://dotabuff.com/players/13224758. I'm new to the forum, hope it's ok to post that kind of stuff here. Add me if you wish.  :)

I'm really excited about this new patch, only things I don't really agree with is the offlaner neutral xp leech change and the nerf to sven's stun. Can't wait to play the new brood/meepo and experiment with some new invoker builds.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 18, 2013, 07:29:27 AM
I'm new to the forum, hope it's ok to post that kind of stuff here.
Yeah nobody really cares about stuff like that as long as you're not trying to solicit people or are being obnoxious about it so you're fine probably.

Personally I'm just left confused about this patch.
I mean some of the changes I see to be quite agreeable but others are more... Eh?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on October 18, 2013, 09:55:10 AM
darius is arguably worse because he deals actual damage instead of a threshold imo- so the dunk threshold can grow and spiral out of control

and well he also has a time limit before he goes on cooldown atleast, this is pre-change darius shit here

I think he means release Darius.

That said, 'Release Darius' wasn't even that bad. His only nerf before the ult change to reduce the snowballing was a very, very minor nerf to the bleed DoT, just to shut up the crying noobs who didn't know how to kite.

Axe has Blink Dagger, on the other hand. That said, the general power level of Dotes is a lot higher.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on October 18, 2013, 01:19:54 PM
When are they going to buff Ogre Magi. Fuck these heroes.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 18, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
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- Ignite duration increased from 4/5/6/7 to 5/6/7/8
- Ignite is now dodgeable
- Ignite can now multicast to cast at a random enemy unit in 1400 AoE (prioritizes ones that do not already have the debuff)
- Unrefined Fireblast cooldown reduced from 10 to 6
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on October 18, 2013, 01:26:57 PM
Ok so how did I miss that. Though ignite being dodge-able is suck. Fucking bastard evaders.

Ehm, also regarding ignite multicast random. I assume it is like the bloodlust being randomly multicasted?  So the skill has now an aoe + ability to cast randomly to random enemy including the AoE? Wow.

Unrefined fireblast cd 6 seconds? Oh jolly. FIREBLAST CHAINING COMMENCE. (How to sustain mana proper, as if Ogre didn't have enough sucky pool). I guess bloodstone is now going to be even more of a priority. Too bad Ogre is easily countered by simple items like BKB. Makes me a sad ogre when people rush BKB.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on October 18, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
I want to think the AoE has been removed, maybe?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 19, 2013, 02:17:20 AM
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1047377790979223150/F9DD9A751D1F7068908EB589B11FAE0C57F0ABF8/)
rizock found slender.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on October 19, 2013, 06:14:20 AM
This is exactly how playing a good Rubick feels. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn7czVAwsQI)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on October 19, 2013, 05:58:39 PM
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1047377790979223150/F9DD9A751D1F7068908EB589B11FAE0C57F0ABF8/)
rizock found slender.
God I'm so sorry for how bad I played last night like seriously that was horrid :S
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on October 19, 2013, 05:59:08 PM
don't worry about it.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on October 19, 2013, 08:40:48 PM
All Random: Magnus, Nyx and Earthshaker, with Troll Warlord and Ursa. (http://dotabuff.com/matches/351403833)

That was hilarious ganking.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on October 20, 2013, 03:15:15 PM
Gotta go fast, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWggkrxxPMA)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on October 21, 2013, 12:13:22 PM
I hate new patch in almost every way.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on October 21, 2013, 05:16:13 PM
Salt does come out!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on October 21, 2013, 11:30:19 PM
Oh god I can't hold all these spells.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 21, 2013, 11:34:06 PM
Stop the feed.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Formless God on October 22, 2013, 12:22:49 AM
Gotta go fast, part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWggkrxxPMA)
deep_mist_labyrinth.flv
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on October 22, 2013, 06:53:33 AM
Aghs rubick is literally overwhelming.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 22, 2013, 07:03:38 AM
Aghs rubick is literally overwhelming.
(http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/3/3b/Abyssal_Blade_icon.png)
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Post by: Helepolis on October 22, 2013, 07:33:56 AM
No, Legion Commander's skill is overwhelming.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 22, 2013, 07:48:59 AM
Overwhelming Odds, actually.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on October 22, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
My new Silencer build is NO GLAIVES until level 9. This works out great since Curse of Silent and Last Word can just be maxed now. Fuck Glaives until I've built up my Int.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on October 22, 2013, 07:18:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7XU3BvKzR4
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on October 23, 2013, 06:01:00 AM
New Broodmother is an OP Broodmother.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Namago on October 23, 2013, 09:33:27 AM
My new Silencer build is NO GLAIVES until level 9. This works out great since Curse of Silent and Last Word can just be maxed now. Fuck Glaives until I've built up my Int.

One early point in glaives is in my opinion essential. You want the extra damage when last hitting/harassing, but most importantly, the ability to orb walk. As a mid or as a support you need it to be able to harass without getting hit by creeps/towers.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on October 23, 2013, 02:22:17 PM
Drawing aggro when harassing is entirely optional when you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Namago on October 23, 2013, 04:46:57 PM
Drawing aggro when harassing is entirely optional when you know what you're doing.

I don't think you can afford to skip it. You will get hit or draw aggro if you try to harass past a creep wave, meaning you'll screw up the lane balance or get damaged, or if you intend to hit a hero under a tower - you will get hit. Orb walking brings a lot to your lane, it's too good to pass on. :) You will also get somewhere from 8 to 12 pure damage from it alone in the first couple levels.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on October 23, 2013, 04:58:57 PM
Walk past the creep wave without actually right clicking. Also curse/lastword harass is more effective on a level per level basis.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Namago on October 23, 2013, 05:21:31 PM
Walk past the creep wave without actually right clicking. Also curse/lastword harass is more effective on a level per level basis.

Walking past the creep wave is situational, you will only be able to do it against solo laners that can't fight back, it will put you in a position where you're more susceptible to ganks, and it will obviously kill you against any dual lane. In mid it is specially dangerous to do something like that, for the reasons I just mentioned. Walking past the creep wave to assert a position will get you killed by any smoke ganks, and isn't simply an option half the time when you just want to toss a last glaive before a hero goes up on highground and fogs you. The ability to force an enemy hero away from last hitting when your creep wave is at their tower with glaives is also something that I think shouldn't be ignored. The last hitting advantages a point gives you are also really good, for such a low cost orb, be it in mid or simply pulling. Missing a point in Curse of the Silent isn't a big deal when you compare it to the advantages orb walking gives you.
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Post by: Amraphenson on October 23, 2013, 05:57:30 PM
Orb walking also puts you in the same ranges (ie past the creep wave, if you're making use of the fact it doesn't draw aggro) and curse/word have much longer effective ranges. In addition, pulling aggro from creeps is not always a bad thing; in fact, in many dual lane situations, pulling the lane backwards a tad is beneficial.

For one level of curse, you deal around 15 damage and 8 mana loss at the very least plus whatever mana they burned to get the curse off, or you do around 100 damage and 48 mana burn, or some interim, for 75 mana. Conversely, one level in Glaives adds around 10-12 damage per 15 mana, which results in around 50-60 pure damage for the same mana cost as a level one curse of the silent.

The differences in damage per mana cost increase severely as you level curse in comparison to glaive, as each level only adds 20 mana to the cost for +15 damage and +8 mana drain per second per level. Curse also features 550 (800 cast range, 350 radius) more range than your autoattacks, and is arguably safer than orb walking. If you're in a mid situation, forcing the opponent to cast a spell to get rid of curse or otherwise take damage is highly advantageous. I won't argue the smoke ganks, but those don't occur in pubs until far after the leveling issue is moot and silencer isn't picked in pros. I'm not arguing that orb walking is cool beans, but math wise you're generally going to get more out of levels in Curse now that you don't need glaives for int steal.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 23, 2013, 09:29:34 PM
I dunno. Having an orb can be a pretty huge advantage in lane.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on October 23, 2013, 09:37:01 PM
So has the patch with all those huge balance changes happened?

I wanna know because I play Rubick a lot [When I'm not playing Bane] and I'm pretty good with Spellsteals.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 23, 2013, 09:43:35 PM
Yes, 6.79 has been live for a few days now.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Namago on October 24, 2013, 04:30:51 AM
Orb walking also puts you in the same ranges (ie past the creep wave, if you're making use of the fact it doesn't draw aggro) and curse/word have much longer effective ranges. In addition, pulling aggro from creeps is not always a bad thing; in fact, in many dual lane situations, pulling the lane backwards a tad is beneficial.

For one level of curse, you deal around 15 damage and 8 mana loss at the very least plus whatever mana they burned to get the curse off, or you do around 100 damage and 48 mana burn, or some interim, for 75 mana. Conversely, one level in Glaives adds around 10-12 damage per 15 mana, which results in around 50-60 pure damage for the same mana cost as a level one curse of the silent.

The differences in damage per mana cost increase severely as you level curse in comparison to glaive, as each level only adds 20 mana to the cost for +15 damage and +8 mana drain per second per level. Curse also features 550 (800 cast range, 350 radius) more range than your autoattacks, and is arguably safer than orb walking. If you're in a mid situation, forcing the opponent to cast a spell to get rid of curse or otherwise take damage is highly advantageous. I won't argue the smoke ganks, but those don't occur in pubs until far after the leveling issue is moot and silencer isn't picked in pros. I'm not arguing that orb walking is cool beans, but math wise you're generally going to get more out of levels in Curse now that you don't need glaives for int steal.

If you put it on a damage to mana cost perspective, it makes sense, but losing so much utility for one point isn't worth it. Silencer has been picked in competitive with very good stats lately, with people like Vanskor and Smile playing it with very good win rates http://www.datdota.com/hero.php?q=Silencer. Vanskor in particular doesn't skill curse in the first few levels, he goes for a glaives/last word build, even when playing as a support in an offensive trilane. I have played with him before and I can give him credit for being a great support player. I'm not saying that you should put no points in curse, the ability can be quite useful, and I would personally max it in most lineups versus glaives, but some players still consider it trash.
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Post by: Amraphenson on October 24, 2013, 05:09:43 AM
He's been played in one game as of 6.79, I wouldn't use pro games as a gauge until there are a bunch more. It was a win by Vanskor though. One point in glaives was the norm before 6.79 since you wanted the int steal. I won't argue that you get glaives pre 6.79 but the whole point of the argument is that now you don't need to because of 6.79.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on October 24, 2013, 06:22:15 AM
He's been played in one game as of 6.79, I wouldn't use pro games as a gauge until there are a bunch more. It was a win by Vanskor though. One point in glaives was the norm before 6.79 since you wanted the int steal. I won't argue that you get glaives pre 6.79 but the whole point of the argument is that now you don't need to because of 6.79.

if you actually saw the game though EMPIRE won that match because PR ran heroes that got absolutely maimed by Silencer, so honestly that particular game isn't a good indicator
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Post by: Bardiche on October 24, 2013, 08:39:52 PM
>Everyone still debating an off-hand comment I made
I like the harass Curse of the Silent provides and like to build into full support mode first. Everyone else can get last hits and shit. So that's why I get Glaives late.

ALSO

NYX ASSASSIN IS EASY MODE HERO (http://dotabuff.com/matches/357528652), or, How I Counter-Picked And Loved OD.

27/0/17.

I felt so pro.
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Post by: helvetica on October 25, 2013, 04:05:06 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/357703075

Decent clockwerk run, and of course I didn't stream/record it so no record :(
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Post by: Zerviscos on October 25, 2013, 02:52:34 PM
A lot of people are complaining about Slark's Shadow Dance nerf in the 6.79 patch. Increased cooldown, decreased duration.
I think it's more of a buff, since it's no longer detectable by True Sight(Yes even by Towers and the Fountain).

At first, I actually was also thinking it was a rather stupid nerf. But accidentally on draft pick, I picked Slark, and since I'm a guy who practically reads the changelogs than most pub gamers, I knew about his ult.
Got to try him out, and by the Gods, just try to do your decisions correctly and you'll be owning. Got to fight with alternating active items, diving in with Pounce then Dark Pact, land a few hits. Then when thing's are about to get tough, or going to get disabled, activate Shadow Dance, and poof you're seemingly Invulnerable for 4 seconds(of course you can still be hit by Cleave, Global Ults, and such, but you will be granted Undetectable Invisibility, which will grant you to have your Ult's Passive regen for 4 secs). After that pop out BKB, and you'll still be hard to kill.

I got to say, Slark's more OP than ever. Given that his ult is used correctly. Which you can even use for escaping from guys like Spiritbreaker having dust...haha, I laughed at those guys using dust and sentries. They seriously need to read the changelogs.
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Post by: Bardiche on October 25, 2013, 04:36:40 PM
Quote
since I'm a guy who practically reads the changelogs than most pub gamers, I knew about his ult.

This does need to be done more. Lately people complain at me for not picking Glaives because "I need to steal Int asap" as Silencer. Well, joke's on you...
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Post by: Namago on October 25, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
I agree. I've only played one game as Slark since the new patch (http://dotabuff.com/matches/355917220), the lane phase didn't go that well, but in the end I was impressed at how strong being practically untouchable for 4 seconds is. It felt like a big buff to the hero, atleast from a pub perspective (people buy a lot of anti invis in the games I play). The Skadi 35/35 buff was another thing that made the hero incredible.

There's one big counter to him this patch - Bloodseeker. If you drop under the passive threshold - goodbye regen! Atleast until you go over 50%. Against BS you'll have to buy a shadowblade (<25% hp) to regen back up or something like bottle/tranqs.
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Post by: PX on October 26, 2013, 01:44:01 AM
Purge comes out with a few tips for the new patch. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFeRfUjT1Gc) I suggest people watch this.
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Post by: Zerviscos on October 26, 2013, 02:45:15 AM
Purge comes out with a few tips for the new patch. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFeRfUjT1Gc) I suggest people watch this.
Triple pull? I've been doing that WAAAAY before the patch came out.
I learned it from Merlini's Beastmaster, then tried to do it on a manual basis just using Quelling Blade or Tangos. And yes, I found it better than stacking.
Though it won't work on Dire since the other camps are too far. You can only go for a double pull.

Edit: Oh it was shown in the video. I didn't watch it whole through when I posted this. Haha.

Anyways, if you're at Dire, it'll be better to just cut down trees at the btm left section of the small camp for an easy access to the next camp.
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Post by: Amraphenson on October 30, 2013, 03:21:37 AM
yisssssss Merlini responded to my interview request and gave a statement. Journalism is 2ez
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Post by: Pesco on October 30, 2013, 03:28:00 AM
Nah it's just Merlini's a bro
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Post by: Amraphenson on October 30, 2013, 04:08:49 AM
He is.
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Post by: Chaore on October 30, 2013, 05:29:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YfRMP5O7t_c
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Post by: PX on October 31, 2013, 08:51:17 AM
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ=ε/̵͇̿̿/?̿?̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿ Give DIRETIDE
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 31, 2013, 08:57:22 AM
Nice copy paste.
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Post by: trancehime on October 31, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ=ε/̵͇̿̿/?̿?̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿ Give DIRETIDE

why are you doing this copy pasterino shit take that back to twitch chat and irc kappa
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Post by: Yadogari on November 01, 2013, 03:47:24 AM
So I feel like I should learn how to play super turbo DOOMOBILE.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2338772/1379481798384.gif)
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Post by: helvetica on November 01, 2013, 10:44:10 PM
Just build Midas and Necrobook on him, it's the new meta for every hero.
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Post by: PX on November 01, 2013, 10:56:11 PM
It works because Scorched Earth speeds them up :V
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 02, 2013, 12:24:30 AM
Jungle Doom. Devour, Scorched Earth. Midas in under 9 mins.

Fastest Jungle making Midas I ever did was on Lone Druid, which was under 6-7 mins.
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Post by: Helepolis on November 02, 2013, 08:47:08 AM
So I feel like I should learn how to play super turbo DOOMOBILE.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2338772/1379481798384.gif)
Red Zone mix is going through my head some how.


Also Rocks fall, people die. A game where Dormio was Warlock with refresher, enemies tend to die very fast if they don't have BKB. Except Huskar is as we know fucking idiotic with his magic resist. Have you ever seen a Huskar regenerate HP while he is being 4x Multicasted? Twice? Bull shit passive. But we've been over this before.

Either way, Brogre Magi no Densetsu continues with all its might. Discussed a thing or two with Merlini yesterday to try out different build / styles. So far they work.
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 02, 2013, 11:58:39 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1ru14z.png)
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 04, 2013, 09:19:48 AM
What the fuck is a smoke? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JV2_b0fgR0)
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Post by: Helepolis on November 04, 2013, 10:13:58 AM
What the fuck was even that enemy team doing there, positioned like that?

Has nothing to do with smoke, just terrible play by enemy.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 04, 2013, 10:17:36 AM
They were waiting with smoke inside the pit and on the ramp to jump us except we had lingering vision from the arrow.
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Post by: Helepolis on November 04, 2013, 10:40:23 AM
I can see the lingering arrow, but they were horribly positioned in the first place. No idea what their brilliant plan was. First of all, if want to smoke wait, do it outside the pit on the high grounds and wait for the smoke to break if enemy approaches. This is just bad play.

Also I bet they didn't ward the ancients at your side, because that is what you usually do if you expect enemies.

Smoking is hard.

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Post by: trancehime on November 06, 2013, 04:03:32 PM
Taken from a Chinese translated interview with AdmiralBulldog (source: http://fight.pcgames.com.cn/317/3178821.html)
Original interview in ENGLISH - http://2p.com/2405676_1/AdmiralBulldog-quotit-meeting-Dendi-was-by-pure-chancequot-by-GodBlessMali.htm
Q:全世界有很多天赋异禀的劣势路选手,有没有哪个你特别喜欢的?如果有的话,是谁?为什么?
Question: "Out of all the competitive offlaners, which ones do you like? Why?"

布狗:我喜欢Iceiceice和Bone7的创造力,每次看到他们想出来的东西都非常有意思。
AdmiralBulldog: "I like iceiceice and bOne7's creativity, every time I see them play they're usually pulling off some nice stunts."


looks like the big man has some respect from based sanbing  :o

He also really wants Sylar to pick up Lone Druid again - "Sylar你怎么就不多玩玩德鲁伊啊?!!?" (Sylar, why don't you play Druid often?!!?)

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Post by: Zerviscos on November 09, 2013, 08:42:37 AM
Volvo gives out Doretoad.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/dota2/announcements/detail/1837761428200827886
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 09, 2013, 09:40:45 AM
But Diretide being shipped with the next update means that I need to play only Diretide to farm items but then at the same time there are going to be new heroes that I must play and :firstworldproblems:
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Post by: yuyukos on November 09, 2013, 04:21:39 PM
No fucks given personally, still Techies never when?
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Post by: trancehime on November 10, 2013, 11:43:17 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/378458543

the funniest game of my life
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Post by: Heian_Alien on November 12, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
Uhm, yesterday, this game ( http://dotabuff.com/matches/379773751 ) happened.
This smurf I used to teach some friends of mine about dota 2.
After doing that, I decided to carry some /vg/ stacks with it.
When I tried to play with one my friends again the mmr was so high he went 1-17 and abandoned.
Some days later I played some troll games to relieve some stress, after a particularly frustrating loss in my main acc. Suddenly "468 people are spectating this game right now".
My mirana game was first page first game.
I was like, what the fuck? 
The next game I played was against s4, loda and kelly stack.
I faced s4's Zeus mid. I randomed Windrunner because I hadn't seen who I was facing since everyone loaded fucking fast, and just randomed because who picks.
I won the lane, not that it says much, since Zeus stood no chance against one of the best last hitters of the game, plus my supports' rotations were exceptional. It was a stomp in general.

If you guys don't believe me add me, and I'll accept you and verify :V
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 12, 2013, 09:12:43 PM
Almost as good as that one time a guy playing his second game got matched with Dendi.
Matchmaker pls.
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Post by: Heian_Alien on November 12, 2013, 09:53:57 PM
Almost as good as that one time a guy playing his second game got matched with Dendi.
Matchmaker pls.
I can't complain about the MM! Plus I actually had no trouble playing in that level. So yeah veri gud matchmaking I must say  :yukkuri:
If I hadn't shown respect by not camping fountain like sniper cm did I'd have a better score too. Oh well.
I wonder what my next game with that account will be. I'll try to mm the same time as SingSing so maybe it matches me with him. That'd be one fucking dream come true.
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Post by: Keychain on November 12, 2013, 11:23:56 PM
Oh cool there's a Dota 2 thread!

Here's my Dotabuff profile: http://dotabuff.com/players/33917320

Pudge and Kunkka are my favorite heroes.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 14, 2013, 07:32:24 AM
http://www.dota2.com/threespirits
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 14, 2013, 07:33:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/AvLBDnx.png)
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Post by: trancehime on November 14, 2013, 07:41:49 AM
If you have any questions regarding Ember or Earth Spirit mechanics you can ask me, I have extensive DotA1 knowledge of these heroes
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Post by: Bio on November 14, 2013, 07:49:21 AM
Aw yes, I've always wanted more extravagant couriers.
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Post by: Keychain on November 14, 2013, 08:43:07 AM
http://tf2b.com/updates/d2t (http://tf2b.com/updates/d2t)

Pretty much all those big popular sets are in

Also worth noting that all of Omni's sets were added in the Chinese red/white color scheme

(http://media.steampowered.com/apps/205790/icons/econ/sets/dota_item_thunderwraths_calling_set_large.573afa6c5c16071fc13613bccb4e25ada7fbb3e9.png)
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Post by: Chaore on November 14, 2013, 11:17:47 AM
>Sleight of fists as a skill name

>"Lets give this hero twin swords!"

volvo plz
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 14, 2013, 11:49:45 AM
http://www.dota2.com/threespirits
Moar updates and finally doretoad.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 14, 2013, 11:53:15 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/7F6BBdy.jpg)
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Post by: trancehime on November 14, 2013, 12:44:09 PM
>Sleight of fists as a skill name

>"Lets give this hero twin swords!"

volvo plz

That's how he was in DotA 1, Chaore. :V
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 14, 2013, 12:58:39 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/7F6BBdy.jpg)
I was (http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/6a/Spr_3e_143_s.gif) a while ago.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 14, 2013, 01:15:12 PM
Yes, but uh...
http://www.dota2.com/threespirits
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 14, 2013, 02:33:51 PM
Yes, but uh...
I was half-(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/6a/Spr_3e_143_s.gif) when I posted that.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on November 14, 2013, 04:23:16 PM
Quote
Crafting
where was this when i deleted like 100 items  >:(
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Post by: PX on November 14, 2013, 04:59:44 PM
>Sleight of fists as a skill name

>"Lets give this hero twin swords!"

volvo plz

http://www.playdota.com/heroes/ember-spirit
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Post by: Raikaria on November 14, 2013, 06:01:43 PM
So; uh...

What's Diretide and why should I play it?
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Post by: Pesco on November 14, 2013, 06:24:01 PM
Easy items at the cost of rage,
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Post by: Keychain on November 14, 2013, 08:06:19 PM
So; uh...

What's Diretide and why should I play it?

Basically both teams have to gather candy on the map, either from jungle creeps or baby-roshan creeps that spawn I believe in placement of catapult creeps, and bring it to their basket. After a certain period of time, Roshan will come out of his pit and start wanting candy from specific players, if the player fails to give Roshan candy he will chase/hit you until you die, and then move onto another player. If you give him candy he'll eat it and move onto another player anyway. (he's basically just a hazard while the main focus of the game is to get candy for your team) Also, enemy players can go to your basket and start taking candy from it by autoattacking it.

At the end of the round, whichever team has the most candy wins, and they get good quality items while the losing team gets bad quality items. After that, both teams have to work together to kill Roshan, who has health/armor depending on how much candy he got during the round. There's leaderboards for how fast people take to kill him.

It can be pretty fun, but it's also quite unbalanced if you have heroes like Anti-Mage who can just endless avoid Roshan as well as blink to the enemy's basket.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 14, 2013, 11:56:27 PM
More like when you have Meepo who multiplies candy and gains EXP/Gold at an absurd rate.

Also, when did I get so shitty at last hitting?
I only got 70 in the last hit practice mission. :/
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 15, 2013, 01:37:30 AM
http://steamstat.us/

volvo pls
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 15, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
IT'S UP.
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 15, 2013, 02:52:58 AM
Meepo...y u bug?
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Post by: trancehime on November 15, 2013, 02:56:03 AM
hey

i was downloading the 769.8 MB update, right?

at 700MB, Steam decides to throw away everything i had downloaded and restart itself

fuck you.
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Post by: PX on November 15, 2013, 04:54:09 AM
So guys, we must form another 10 man queue
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Post by: Chaore on November 15, 2013, 08:16:41 AM
So guys, we must form another 10 man queue

oh god i don't know where the komachi pass is
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 15, 2013, 09:31:26 AM
We got to feed Silencer and Pudge to get super charges!
-
Pudge
Silencer
Bloodseeker
Magnus
Vengeful Spirit
Troll Warlord
Slardar
Ogre Magi
Ursa
Sven
-
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Post by: Prody on November 15, 2013, 02:41:40 PM
What did you do to the economy valve

Coming back to the pic on steam trading in my sig
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Post by: Raikaria on November 15, 2013, 04:09:25 PM
So; played some Diretide; and will be playing more later after food. Note I'm playing with people at my very low skill level.

So far of the heroes I've tried in Diretide [PL; PA; Tinker; Venomancer; Veng; Morph; Brogre] Morphling is by far my favorite. In fact; our team kinda stomped that game. The end score was Radient 0 Dire 110 or something. A complete shutout.

Probobly helped that all 5 of them came to our candy at the start of the game, and I was defending alone while 4 of my allies were stealing theirs. Of course; because it was 5v1; they got hilariously greedy... and I used Waveform and killed 3 of them; autoed a 4th down and then one of my allies; returning from the enemy's candy; killed the Brood who had escaped over the wall.

Also I managed to not die against Rosh at the end; although we only got to Phase 2. [Phase 2/3 appears to be the limit we get to]
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Post by: Wind God Guy on November 15, 2013, 05:23:42 PM
Earth spirit is hella fun.
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 16, 2013, 01:46:46 AM
What did you do to ~*~the economy~*~ valve

Coming back to the pic on steam trading in my sig
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Garments of Nightsilver Sentinel! I had my hopes up too high. I'd be lucky to get atleast 1 key profit.
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Post by: Amraphenson on November 16, 2013, 01:50:00 AM
the economy is shot to hell with these recipes floating around lol
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Post by: Prody on November 16, 2013, 07:54:43 AM
~*~the economy~*~ is shot to hell with these recipes floating around lol
It's more than that; every genuine item has their price cut down by at least 30% due to the ability to craft non genuine versions of them, every common/uncommon are worth ten times more on the steam market as well.

And don't get me started on unusual couriers...
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Post by: Chaore on November 16, 2013, 09:31:44 AM
It's more than that; every genuine item has their price cut down by at least 30% due to the ability to craft non genuine versions of them, every common/uncommon are worth ten times more on the steam market as well.

And don't get me started on unusual couriers...

I'm getting you started on unusual couriers.

As far as I can tell i'm having a moment like I did with keys.
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Post by: Raikaria on November 16, 2013, 10:43:45 AM
OK I'm gonna spam Windrunner in Diretide. She can escape and raid pretty awesomely with Windrun and Shackleshot [The pots are surrounded by trees!]; but more importantly; Focus Fire against Roshan. We actually almost got to Phase 5; but the thing is; I think it was mostly me with max attacking speed; a Deso; two rapiers and a Dadilus+MkB [Didn't have gold for another Divine] that did most of the damage.

Why?

Because while everyone else got normal junk I got an item that I've never even seen before; a Shadow Essence. And don't rewards from Rosh scale with how much damage you do?

I think Rank 4 [Almost 5] is pretty good seeing as we didn't have the heroes who keep topping the charts like Abbadon and Shadow Shaman.

Also I'm not awful with Windrunner and no-one else seems to pick her.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 16, 2013, 10:51:45 AM
The highest roshan level I reached was level 9 through the old burst damage nuke method.

Also, yes, rewards scale with damage done to Roshan. (Total, not individual, iirc)
Shadow essences are okay but they're not super rare like last diretide and aren't really worth all that much because the recipe that uses them isn't very good.
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Post by: Raikaria on November 16, 2013, 10:59:33 AM
Aw and here I got my hopes up that I got a good item D:
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 16, 2013, 11:01:53 AM
Don't worry it's one of the best items you can get from the Diretide, the other being the cursed recipe scroll.

It's just that, compared to last year's Diretide, the rewards have been decreased significantly.
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 16, 2013, 11:40:17 AM
Let's beat cycle 2.
Seems fairly easy.
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Post by: Raikaria on November 16, 2013, 12:16:33 PM
With Windrunner in pubs the furthest I've got is literally 2000 HP off beating cycle 4.

I did manage to die twice though; because of Roshlings whacking me and Rosh focusing every single toss on me. But you know what you do when you die? BUY MORE RAPIERS.

Also if I'm Radient Windrunner the Dire pot is not safe once I get a Force Staff. It is never safe. Ever. I can attack the pot from the river; force staff over; pick up candy; shackle the defender and windrun away. I probobly stole at least 30 candy during the game doing this.

Also I think Battle Fury may be bugged against Roshan. I mean; why would you build multiple BF's and take Sven AND Magnus over Divine Rapiers to get high scores if Battle Fury WASN'T bugged?
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Post by: yuyukos on November 16, 2013, 04:21:19 PM
IIRC, Cleave does pure damage.
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 16, 2013, 04:30:25 PM
IIRC, Cleave does pure damage.
Basically, instead of hitting Roshan directly, they attack opposing teams near Roshan to cleave damage.
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Post by: Amraphenson on November 16, 2013, 07:15:00 PM
Battlefury works as intended, it's just having anything else in a normal game is more useful than +cleave%
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on November 16, 2013, 07:20:59 PM
IIRC, Cleave does pure damage.
It isn't but its pretty close to pure I guess
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Post by: Raikaria on November 16, 2013, 08:55:29 PM
IIRC, Cleave does pure damage.

I always thought it was physical.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on November 16, 2013, 08:57:14 PM
The important part is that it's ignoring Roshan's armour and instead working off Abaddon's (or whoever it is you're hitting).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on November 16, 2013, 11:59:52 PM
I think Abaddon used his shit to give people bonus ATK speed. Probably not.

HOW TO TELL IF YOUR GAME IS GOING TO BE GREAT:
Random into Morphling.
One guy picks Zeus and goes mid.
Another picks Weaver and goes top.
Fourth picks Timbersaw.
Fifth picks Witch Doctor.

First thing Witch Doctor does?
Buy Headdress and say, "buy Courier I'm carry".

Zeus raged so hard.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on November 17, 2013, 12:02:08 AM
Abaddon can actually stand next to rosh and not care, is why.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on November 17, 2013, 02:07:11 AM
Battlefury works as intended, it's just having anything else in a normal game is more useful than +cleave%
I tried Ursa with 1 Daedalus, 1 Cuirass, Eul's and Rapiers. Got to atleast 100+ Fury Swipes, and Eul's does save your ass.
Got to Level 18 Rosh when we all went physical. We lost our rhythm when Lion and Shadow Shaman died consecutively. They had to walk so far from the base.
I think Abaddon used his shit to give people bonus ATK speed. Probably not.
If they have Troll, no.

Anyways, looks like Doom is the new meta. Devour Alpha Wolf to get increase dmg and crit.
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Post by: trancehime on November 19, 2013, 04:21:15 AM
So, I just watched Wagamama on his stream hosting a subscriber challenge - 5v5 mid-only samehero Invoker, cinematic camera only, and honestly, it looks fucking epic! We should totally do the same thing with different hero like 5v5 mid PUDGE. Legit gameplay style Xd
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Post by: PX on November 19, 2013, 04:54:02 AM
Cinematic camera should be default
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on November 19, 2013, 09:55:08 AM
Logs in steam*
Sees Dota 2 updating*
Excited for new updates*
Checks changelogs*
Quote
- Roshan is now unaffected by Hex and Root interruption
- You can now use a password to only match against other players with the same password in Diretide Matchmaking
:(

I like the second one though...LEZ DIRETIDE!!!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on November 19, 2013, 09:57:33 AM
Yay for Diretide lobby?
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 19, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Yay for Diretide lobby?
Sorta like a lobby. Has all the shiz as one, but considered as an actual diretide. Means we can actually have a decent 10 man queue that'll work for rosh.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on November 19, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Huh. I guess they heard the complaints about it. :v

If it gives rewards too it sounds like ez shadow essences, assuming you have a competent stack- or enough practice.

Neither of which MOTK has in the least. Oh well!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on November 20, 2013, 09:44:31 AM
I just want a Hollow Jack Recipe if I can't get a Plat Roshling...srz that pumpkin head.
Edit:
I never knew that PBR had a bug on the first day. Apparently some ppl playing had it randomly dropped, and recipes were of it too. Ppl who got it on that day gets to keep their Pseudo-Immortal Item(T'was Legendary Status before then upgraded after Bug patch). And sold it for 1xxx keys plus. Someone sold it for around $4000 - $10000.

Volvo I hate you. Not you Volvo Car. But I dislike you Volvo car. I hate your V6 Engines, they suck.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on November 20, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
I have a Hollow Jack I'm trying to trade away...
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on November 20, 2013, 04:34:58 PM
If you wanna see people raging about Ember Spirit (because the person using him is bad)

you should watch this replay, and pay attention to all chat.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/392778829 (I was the cancer lancer)
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Post by: Prody on November 23, 2013, 11:16:08 AM
I never knew that PBR had a bug on the first day. Apparently some ppl playing had it randomly dropped, and recipes were of it too. Ppl who got it on that day gets to keep their Pseudo-Immortal Item(T'was Legendary Status before then upgraded after Bug patch). And sold it for 1xxx keys plus. Someone sold it for around $4000 - $10000.

Volvo I hate you. Not you Volvo Car. But I dislike you Volvo car. I hate your V6 Engines, they suck.
Looks just like someone playing the lottery and hitting the jackpot to me. These kind of stuff... just happens, I guess.
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Post by: trancehime on November 25, 2013, 10:05:05 AM
http://www.ongamers.com/videos/an-exhausted-singsing-catches-his-breath-with-matt/2300-149/

"hardest fucking games of my life"

Congrats and well played SpeedGaming.int! Based EE-sama!

no i won't make a "kick EE out and win TI4" joke
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on November 25, 2013, 04:16:50 PM
If you wanna see people raging about Ember Spirit (because the person using him is bad)

you should watch this replay, and pay attention to all chat.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/392778829 (I was the cancer lancer)

HA that reminds me
kotol giff me manar
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on November 25, 2013, 08:46:15 PM
I keep opening Diretide chests and getting Pudge hooks or NP trees, but I really just want a second Icewrack Pack. Is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on November 25, 2013, 10:33:15 PM
I keep opening Diretide chests and getting Pudge hooks or NP trees, but I really just want a second Icewrack Pack. Is that too much to ask?

Yes.

Also dear god how much have you spent on this bardicles
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Post by: Bardiche on November 26, 2013, 07:19:41 AM
Uh, I've opened about 29 chests by now. I spent ?1.79 on a key and I've gotten the rest through trading and shit. Also made the money back because I sold some nonsense. Currently have a Hook and a Hollow Jack but trading's become harder.
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Post by: Helepolis on November 26, 2013, 07:43:26 AM
Bardiche gifted me an Brogre Magi club with 4X Multicast stat tracker. Lets see how many skill shots I can land.

Can an item btw track multiple stats? I would like to also have a 2X and 3X tracker on the same item.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on November 26, 2013, 07:44:46 AM
If you socket it more.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on November 26, 2013, 07:49:30 AM
Bardiche gifted me an Brogre Magi club with 4X Multicast stat tracker. Lets see how many skill shots I can land.

Can an item btw track multiple stats? I would like to also have a 2X and 3X tracker on the same item.

Yeah, just, like Amra said- you need an Artificer's Chisel- obtainable from recipes in the scroll chest (which require some item sacrifices) or opening a gemstone cache.

Unfortunately you can't do that because no 2x or 3x tracker exists! only 4x multi fireblast and ignite.

You can add like.

Kill assists.

or something.
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Post by: Helepolis on November 26, 2013, 08:05:09 AM
Socket more. Oh dear. I do have a chest with content for possible gem / socket tool. 2X and 3X don't even exist? Well then, guess 4X it is.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on November 26, 2013, 11:17:58 AM
Uh, I've opened about 29 chests by now. I spent ?1.79 on a key and I've gotten the rest through trading and shit. Also made the money back because I sold some nonsense. Currently have a Hook and a Hollow Jack but trading's become harder.
Good luck with your steam trading! I will bow down to you just for that career
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on November 26, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Man, I feel for those people who has Genuine items from the Lockless Box. Srz, they might be Genuine, but are significantly cheaper.

I'm happy,and sad at the same time. 'Cause Form of the Onyx Grove is now 6 keys+, but it won't be as rare as before.

Though I have to wonder, whatever happened to the Skull of Xahryx?
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Post by: helvetica on November 27, 2013, 08:17:53 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/15827027 lol going through my old match history, my very first dota2 game
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2013, 08:21:31 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/3077244

My first dota2 game, match ID was still in the millions ;P
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Post by: helvetica on November 27, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
My brother has  few 7 digit match IDs on record on my account but that Storm Spirit game was my first game ever. And then I didn't play for a year and a half :v
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2013, 08:34:12 AM
My brother has  few 7 digit match IDs on record on my account but that Storm Spirit game was my first game ever. And then I didn't play for a year and a half :v

I also had a year or so of a gap between playing DotA2 because of school, but now I have more free time and also need it as a way to stay sane with all the drama that's been going on in my life  :derp:
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Post by: Keychain on November 27, 2013, 08:58:02 AM
Currently on a surprisingly long winning streak.

http://dotabuff.com/players/33917320/matches

Either I'm playing against a lot of idiots lately or I've suddenly become good at the game.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2013, 10:07:31 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/401199763 Game of Throws T_T

If you're wondering why the NightStalker is so poor, it's because he left us to 4v5 against Dire for like 30 minutes and he came back with nothing when team kept dicking around trying to get kills instead of going Ancient
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on November 27, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/15827027 lol going through my old match history, my very first dota2 game
My first match...it was when in Beta, Naix was still the OPiest carry hero evah. This was when Midas was stupid...
http://dotabuff.com/matches/14284057
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on November 27, 2013, 10:03:13 PM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/401941954 tinker is so much fun
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Post by: Namago on November 30, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/190329 My first dota/dota2 match, and a victory too :D! Matches were still in the few thousands.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 02, 2013, 08:21:02 AM
Fluffy Tail Status: Untouched (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvVNVeDuk0)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Keychain on December 02, 2013, 11:27:25 AM
My win streak ended. Here comes the lose streak.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 03, 2013, 01:27:02 AM
(http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/720870441948105685/BC36681F9574818B05802E17C6BED2F9A54D670C/)
Do not queue with MotK.
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Post by: Captain Infinity on December 03, 2013, 01:29:47 AM
Do not queue with MotK.

No words for this game. No words.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 03, 2013, 02:06:59 AM
Too much moneh.
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Post by: PX on December 03, 2013, 02:08:16 AM
What that screen doesn't show is my manta in my stash :V
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 03, 2013, 06:17:34 AM
I was late for class because of that game.
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Post by: Helepolis on December 03, 2013, 07:01:59 AM
Did you guys decide to midas the entire 50min before pushing into a win?
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Post by: Captain Infinity on December 03, 2013, 12:28:45 PM
Did you guys decide to midas the entire 50min before pushing into a win?

Midas gaming man. Also we didn't push because everyone was dying everywhere.

Top lane: "THEY'RE DIVING US AT LV 1" then they just got stuck above the Scourge tier 1 tower for like a minute until we killed them. Rinse and repeat for like the entire laning phase.

Edit: Remember, what that didn't show was that game had 3 kills a minute for the first 25 minutes of the game.
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 03, 2013, 09:21:04 PM
still more than 2 a minute even at end game.
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Post by: PX on December 03, 2013, 11:22:31 PM
They killed us when we pushed in base to win :/

Weren't we all dead?
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Post by: Raikaria on December 03, 2013, 11:25:54 PM
I don't know how but despite several successful early fights; and the fact that I didn't steal lasthits and gave my lane ally [Skeleton King] first blood:

I ended up with more CS [And I only had 34! From holding towers!]
I ended up with almost double SK's GPM
I ended up with 6 times his kills and half his deaths
I ended up with far more complete items at the end of the game

I was playing Bane; who the game was kind enough to give me in Single Draft [I was playing that so I WOULDN'T default to Bane damnit!]

I swear Bane is  like one of the only 4 characters I have even half a clue how to play after over 150 games. The others being Leshrac; CM and Rubick.

Also with the jungle in League being in it's current state [Note: Jungle is my main role] I'll probobly be playing more DotA than usual atm. I prefer LoL but I have no qualms at all playing DotA when Riot screws stuff up. I enjoy both games ALMOST as much.

Seriously; I think the only reason I prefer LoL is that it feels more satisfying playing support or a tank there IMO; especially lategame [They feel better early in DotA; and about the same midgame; but I prefer making massive plays in a 5v5 fight lategame because THAT FEELS GOOD]. I dislike playing carries. I like being the guy in the background enabling the plays. I ain't a gloryhog. [Seriously look at any tourny stream of any MobA. Who's the one who gets the hype and the fans? The guy who gets the kills and does the DPS. Not the guy who picks the fights and sacrifices himself to protect others]

And I'm fully aware that my stance on supports and tanks is personal opinion too.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 04, 2013, 11:15:26 AM
Did he jungle? 'Cause people should learn that there is a bit more output GPM on lanes than jungling if you cannot wipe an entire jungle in under 1 minute; on a normal 1:1 wave. However as wave stacks, GPM is significantly better on lanes.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 04, 2013, 09:02:58 PM
Did he jungle? 'Cause people should learn that there is a bit more output GPM on lanes than jungling if you cannot wipe an entire jungle in under 1 minute; on a normal 1:1 wave. However as wave stacks, GPM is significantly better on lanes.

No; I was his lane support.

And I helped him get FB. And I wasn't lasthitting. And I was denying. And harassing. Only times I lasthit was when SK wasn't around or in position to get then lasthit at all.

He had like 24 CS; and ended the game 1/12 when the lane phase ended with him 1/0.

Had I noticed he was THAT awful I would have farmed. He didn't even end the game with upgraded boots. All he had was a Quelling Blade; Circlet; Gloves of Strength; Armlet and basic boots.
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Post by: trancehime on December 05, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
note to self: don't trust anyone here to buy wards except me and a couple of people

learned this today the hard way
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 05, 2013, 03:59:59 PM
note to self: don't trust anyone here to buy wards except me and a couple of people

learned this today the hard way
Not everyone knows the difficulty gap of a support from other roles, hun.
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Post by: helvetica on December 06, 2013, 07:00:59 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/411144759 16/1/20 lich pubstomp
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 06, 2013, 07:13:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/qocSsd0.png)
I think this guy was slightly mad.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 06, 2013, 08:08:30 AM
That is probably the lowest GPM by a Dark Seer in a full game yet, I have ever seen.
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Post by: Hanged Hourai on December 07, 2013, 03:10:46 AM
http://blog.dota2.com/2013/12/matchmaking/ (http://blog.dota2.com/2013/12/matchmaking/)
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 07, 2013, 03:18:38 AM
Well that made my day.

Like I have the biggest smile on my face right now you don't even know.
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Post by: yuyukos on December 07, 2013, 07:16:14 AM
This also pleases me.
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Post by: Prody on December 07, 2013, 09:41:03 AM
Is it just me when I'm just seeing "Normal MMR" and "Ranked MMR" as "Fun DotA" and "Tryhard DotA"?
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 07, 2013, 10:00:32 AM
I see it with "DotA with friends" and "DotA with a limited pool of friends".
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Post by: Raikaria on December 07, 2013, 02:03:55 PM
I see it with "DotA with friends... and Raikaria" and "DotA with a limited pool of friends".

On a side note this sure sounds like LoL's matchmaking.

Speaking of DotA with Raikaria; EUW is on fire again so I'mma play at least a game of DotA before my Bloodbowl match.
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Post by: FFMaster on December 09, 2013, 09:01:19 AM
Do you think we can ever have enough for inhouse games anymore?
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Post by: Helepolis on December 09, 2013, 09:06:50 AM
Do you think we can ever have enough for inhouse games anymore?
If people stop being emo. Sure. :V
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Post by: helvetica on December 09, 2013, 05:14:46 PM
My finals are over tomorrow ; O;
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 09, 2013, 10:13:30 PM
http://www.dota2.com/frostivus2013/

And then it was cancelled due to greevils again. >:D
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Post by: Raikaria on December 09, 2013, 10:17:51 PM
http://www.dota2.com/frostivus2013/

And then it was cancelled due to greevils again. >:D

Nah with the lack of greevil stuff this year available beforehand I doubt it'll be Greevils. Valve has imagination I assume.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 10, 2013, 12:26:44 AM
Gah. So much excitement. :getdown:
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Post by: Helepolis on December 10, 2013, 07:34:27 AM
rofl at Naix in that artwork of frostivus.

This year's end is going to be amusing for some reason. Cannot explain it but it will be good end of the year.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 10, 2013, 12:20:02 PM
'Give Anti-Mage a beginner's magic kit'

I loled at all of these gift ideas. Clearly Troll Warlord thought them up.

Edit: BY ROYAL DECREE; FROSTIVUS IS CANCELLED.
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Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2013, 01:53:38 AM
Edit: BY ROYAL DECREE; FROSTIVUS IS CANCELLED.

legion commander confirmed; all aboard the hype train.
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 11, 2013, 02:07:36 AM
These TF2 style day by day announcements are delicious.
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Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2013, 03:39:59 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/417324291 3v5 is hard game...
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 11, 2013, 06:43:29 AM
legion commander confirmed; all aboard the hype train.
Yeah...like "no one saw that coming".

And for whatever reason. Skeleton King has been removed.

...then again...hmmm..........Decree of the only "King" that matters.

Is it possible...the Wraith King? And has some connection with SK?
Valve's got a running gag going on.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1skrhk/frostivus_is_canceled/cdyjqcy

I'll make guesses as well...
We all know that AM already has responses to Soul Keeper. http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Anti-Mage_responses#Attacking_Soul_Keeper
Legion Commander already has concept arts. http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Legion_Commander
I don't know much about Arc Warden.
I loled at all of these gift ideas. Clearly Troll Warlord thought them up.
Whatever it is that's happening. Valve is the troll.
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Post by: Bardiche on December 11, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
http://blog.dota2.com/2013/12/matchmaking/ (http://blog.dota2.com/2013/12/matchmaking/)

Play4Fun DOTA confirmed. Fuck yellers.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 11, 2013, 09:49:24 PM
Medusa?! (http://dotabuff.com/matches/418291962)
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Post by: yuyukos on December 12, 2013, 02:14:26 AM
Did PX somehow pick up Hero's midas?
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Post by: Chaore on December 12, 2013, 02:49:54 AM
OOOOOHHH SHIT

THE KING IS DEAD LONG LIVE THE KIN-OH SHIT TRESDIN
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Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2013, 04:56:40 AM
OOOOOHHH SHIT

THE KING IS DEAD LONG LIVE THE KIN-OH SHIT TRESDIN

http://www.dota2.com/wraithnight/

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Post by: Zerviscos on December 12, 2013, 05:46:18 AM
http://www.dota2.com/wraithnight/
Ahah. Hooray for my assumptions! :yukkuri:
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Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2013, 05:47:18 AM
Ahah. Hooray for my assumptions! :yukkuri:

it was pretty obvious :v
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Post by: PX on December 12, 2013, 07:52:00 AM
Did PX somehow pick up Hero's midas?

Game ended before I could get my 3rd midas :(
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Post by: Raikaria on December 12, 2013, 10:07:16 AM
But yeah; I think I know why Sthis event is centered around the rebirth of Skeleton King.

Copyright issues with Blizzard. Windrunner had to recently be changed to Windranger; and with King Leoric being known as 'Skeleton King' in Diablo III; this was probobly a matter of time.
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Post by: Prody on December 12, 2013, 11:13:58 AM
Whoaaa so many new stuff, hopefully it won't get stuck at "Searching for the Dota 2 Network..." again during this weekend.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 12, 2013, 11:32:19 AM
But yeah; I think I know why Sthis event is centered around the rebirth of Skeleton King.

Copyright issues with Blizzard. Windrunner had to recently be changed to Windranger; and with King Leoric being known as 'Skeleton King' in Diablo III; this was probobly a matter of time.
Skeleton King is originally from Diablo 1.

Valve: Better get someone to re-voice "Wraith King".

I don't really mind the name changing, but I hate the remodel.

This is practically a douche move by Blizzard, should've done this a long time ago. Maybe seeing Heroes of the Storm taking in, they knew they had to take back the name from Valve. But they have the right to take it back. Valve may have copyrighted DotA, but that's just it. Only the game, not WC Characters, nor Diablo ones.

Btw. This is how the Chinese see Dota 2.
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Low_Violence
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Post by: Raikaria on December 12, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
Skeleton King is originally from Diablo 1.

Yes but I don't think he was called such. It might have been a etipath. I know his D3 name was always shown as 'Skeleton King'.
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Post by: helvetica on December 13, 2013, 04:45:39 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/419704718 I like Legion Commander
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Post by: ActionDan on December 13, 2013, 04:54:12 AM
I feel sucky at this game recently
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Post by: PX on December 13, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
You know, seeing Windrunner shackle together 9 things is both hilarious and scary
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 13, 2013, 07:16:18 AM
Legion Commander: Smack. Smack. Sma-ATATATATATATA-ck. Smack.
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Post by: helvetica on December 13, 2013, 07:40:23 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/419901015

I really like Legion Commander
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Post by: Helepolis on December 13, 2013, 07:59:37 AM
I am all warming up by the new patch notes and release content. Valve really knows their things.

Also Legion Commander is dark tanned lady. Does this mean Chen now has a waifu?

Additionally, how much is the base INT reduction from Crystal Boobs going to affect her starting mana pool? Probably nothing dramatic, as she keeps her base damage.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 13, 2013, 08:16:05 AM
What the hell happened to ~*~~*~~*~~*~the economy~*~~*~~*~~*~. Why has my owlion plunged from 6-7 keys to merely 2-3 keys?

I should've sold it when it was still expensive! :colonveeplusalpha:

I like the update and all. But items with higher rarity these days are so cheap and easy to find now. And here I thought I don't mind not having a DC hook...

Edit: Ah a sale....well I wouldn't be surprised to see many items drop price next year then. But I guess it'll be better to buy items now.

All my items value has dropped significantly, except for my immortals and genuine items.
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Post by: helvetica on December 13, 2013, 09:16:49 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/420006914 :D first ranked match (also second game ever as Doom >>)
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Post by: PX on December 13, 2013, 09:26:01 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/420069017 Midas Gaming done right
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 13, 2013, 09:26:45 AM
 Still crying. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMp3oInA4hA)
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Post by: helvetica on December 13, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/420134757 ok I'm really liking ranked
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Post by: Prody on December 13, 2013, 10:20:41 AM
What the hell happened to ~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~the economy~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~. Why has my owlion plunged from 6-7 keys to merely 2-3 keys?

I should've sold it when it was still expensive! :colonveeplusalpha:
Tell me alllllllllllllllllll about ittttttttt
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 13, 2013, 11:20:22 AM
Quote
Ranked Matchmaking is Coming
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This mode is aimed at experienced players who want to play in a more competitive environment
http://dotabuff.com/matches/420256296
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Post by: trancehime on December 13, 2013, 01:15:07 PM
Quote
This mode is aimed at experienced players who want to play in a more competitive environment

http://dotabuff.com/matches/420375620 - Where a Bounty Hunter uses invisibility and runs around a Razor while he uses Static Link
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Post by: Raikaria on December 13, 2013, 03:45:46 PM
Oh so it's not just TF2 that essplodes after a major update.
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Post by: Chaore on December 13, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
>Blades of Voth Domosh are 35 dollars

lol volvo plz
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Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2013, 12:13:27 AM
>Blades of Voth Domosh are 35 dollars

lol volvo plz

It's a full blown Arcana set; it WILL be that expensive. Wasn't the Lina arcana like 20 bucks or something?
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Post by: PX on December 14, 2013, 02:20:32 AM
It's a full blown Arcana set; it WILL be that expensive. Wasn't the Lina arcana like 20 bucks or something?

$35
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Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2013, 03:57:49 AM
$35

fair enough
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Post by: Chaore on December 14, 2013, 04:02:10 AM
It's a full blown Arcana set; it WILL be that expensive. Wasn't the Lina arcana like 20 bucks or something?

honestly it's more that AND they're offering incentive to buy it fast

they're REALLY pushing this 35 dollar arcana item HARD and it's kinda hillarious
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 14, 2013, 04:05:41 AM
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/705109293712722939/C277067B0E81E45E044C011C13726AFAF5DAAE75/)
>Ranked Matchmaking
>volvo pls
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 14, 2013, 05:46:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/MwKZ15W.png)
Quote
solo_competitive_rank: 4263
solo_competitive_rank_uncertainty: 586
solo_calibration_games_remaining: 3
Can't touch this.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 14, 2013, 09:16:15 AM
I have lost every will in my body and mind to trade.

After this sale, I'm going to sell everything I have.
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Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
Can't touch this.

I will touch your fluffy tail and you will like it.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 14, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
Axe; Omni; Drow; WR; LC [Me]

We kinda stomped Wraith-Night Normal. I got Vlads-Moj-AC-S+Y [I needed the movespeed since I was going Tombstone hunting on the boss; and Strength and Agi don't hurt.]

I'm not 100% sure if WR is the best choice for that slot; but I'm pretty sure Omni; LC; Drow and Axe are necessities and easily the best heroes for the mode.
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Post by: Helepolis on December 14, 2013, 04:57:03 PM
Same line-up I successfully had with random-kuns, except Axe was Venomancer.

Tresdin is pretty much a must for the entire team. The Slark wave is the only annoying one for single-target hitters being squishy and the Gyro wave is annoying as hell. Aside from this, all other waves on Normal are pretty logical. With decent team work and proper kiting, you'll succeed.

Newgame+ is major hell though. Any body any ideas?
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Post by: Chaore on December 14, 2013, 05:58:33 PM
Axe; Omni; Drow; WR; LC [Me]

We kinda stomped Wraith-Night Normal. I got Vlads-Moj-AC-S+Y [I needed the movespeed since I was going Tombstone hunting on the boss; and Strength and Agi don't hurt.]

I'm not 100% sure if WR is the best choice for that slot; but I'm pretty sure Omni; LC; Drow and Axe are necessities and easily the best heroes for the mode.

Drow and Axe are pretty solidly the best.

Omni's pretty rad too.

LC I'm dubious on but she doesn't have too much competition. And super Duel is kinda strong.

WR's fun but not optimal, CM for Drow is much better.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 14, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
WR has Powershot for killing early mobs and Focus Fire for bosses. [Not to mention you can swap targets during Focus]

CM has a 15 sec C/D AoE which doesn't even hit that hard; her ulti; is made of paper and her snare is useless and doesn't even work on the big mobs [At least the Ogres. Never lived long enough on anyone else]. That and 300% of bad mana regen is still bad. I'm pretty sure CM is one of the worst characters in Wraith Night. She's basically just a walking mana aura.

I was more thinking maybe Shadow Shaman for Wards and Shackle and CHICKENS.

I played LC as a secondary tank with buffing power as well; and built some damage but mainly auras like Vlad's and AC.

I've got to wave 13 without a Drow though; never got past Wave 7 without an Omni or Axe.
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Post by: PX on December 14, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
>Powershot for damage
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I was hitting creeps for like 10 damage because there were so many
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Post by: Raikaria on December 14, 2013, 09:52:02 PM
>Powershot for damage
Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I was hitting creeps for like 10 damage because there were so many

I mean the early waves. It's better than most of the carry characters can do early.

But I retract my statement about CM being the worst. No; that's Venomancer and Jakiro with their abilities being DoT.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 14, 2013, 10:01:00 PM
I finished my calibration matches, 9 wins and 1 loss.
(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/705109293747920536/7EF0E3A50E0F41DD8F0F64D74CAC94A4A59DDB98/)
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Post by: Raikaria on December 14, 2013, 10:06:51 PM
Apparently you are the 1% Dormio~

 5% 1100
10% 1500
25% 2000
50% 2250
75% 2731
90% 3200
95% 3900
99% 4100

Now the question is how bad must I be to drag you down to where you lose :3
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Post by: Chaore on December 14, 2013, 10:08:08 PM
WR has Powershot for killing early mobs and Focus Fire for bosses. [Not to mention you can swap targets during Focus]

CM has a 15 sec C/D AoE which doesn't even hit that hard; her ulti; is made of paper and her snare is useless and doesn't even work on the big mobs [At least the Ogres. Never lived long enough on anyone else]. That and 300% of bad mana regen is still bad. I'm pretty sure CM is one of the worst characters in Wraith Night. She's basically just a walking mana aura.

I was more thinking maybe Shadow Shaman for Wards and Shackle and CHICKENS.

I played LC as a secondary tank with buffing power as well; and built some damage but mainly auras like Vlad's and AC.

I've got to wave 13 without a Drow though; never got past Wave 7 without an Omni or Axe.

walking mana aura is actually really strong though

like. really strong. because a lot of people love mana.

including axe, omni, drow...

i think you can put one and one together right.

also you can't properly shackle some things and infact a lot of holds don't wory well

hex is aoe i think or some dumb bullshit
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Post by: Raikaria on December 14, 2013, 10:09:47 PM
Hex is AoE and Shackles lasts longer than normal and actually pins large targets unlike CM's snare.

As for mana: Arcane Boots II. I've played a lot of Axe in this mode; do't care too much for mana; just need enough to use the occasional W.
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Post by: Chaore on December 14, 2013, 10:12:27 PM
i remember large targets not being shackled actually, unless that was changed :V snares are just bad i'm pretty damn sure

and yeah arcane 2s are rad but can you use them HALFWAY ACROSS THE MAP  at a 10 second cooldown?! :OOO

hex being AOE is p.rad though, def. better than nova
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 14, 2013, 10:17:07 PM
Now the question is how bad must I be to drag you down to where you lose :3
Don't worry I lose pretty much all of my stacked queues.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 14, 2013, 10:24:41 PM
i remember large targets not being shackled actually, unless that was changed :V snares are just bad i'm pretty damn sure

and yeah arcane 2s are rad but can you use them HALFWAY ACROSS THE MAP  at a 10 second cooldown?! :OOO

hex being AOE is p.rad though, def. better than nova

I recall seeing the Broodqueen Shackled. I think it works since it's a channel and a full disable; unlike CM snare which dosen't disable everything.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 14, 2013, 10:25:20 PM
Broodmother also gets frostbitten.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 14, 2013, 10:55:42 PM
Broodmother also gets frostbitten.

Well I haven't even got to Broodqueen with a CM on the team. Because she's bad. Frostbite also lasts like half the duration. I know CM dosen't work on the big Ogres. Idk about SS; didn't see him Shackle a big Ogre.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 14, 2013, 10:58:20 PM
CM is hella sweet with mana intensive heroes.
Also, Jakiro is actually quite good as well.
Just putting that out there.
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 14, 2013, 10:59:39 PM
CM Ult is also nice since it aspd slows.
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 14, 2013, 11:05:23 PM
3805 with four matches left.
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Post by: helvetica on December 14, 2013, 11:14:50 PM
Yeah I played Omnibro my first Wrath clear and I had Arcane 2/Vlads/Shivas/AC/Heart. Was redonkulous how tanky I was. And the Shivas really really helps slow down mobs.

The worst part is getting to the King. Once you hit the last round he's a really simple raid-style boss and any grindan fanatic should have no problems juking and stuff. Repel is fantastic for avoiding his hellblast shots and you just need to back off behind the green circle for his big clearing swing.

We had Chaore on Axe tanking the King. I would repel myself and heal Chaore and the rest shooting at ranged and we'd all back off (except Chaore) during the AoE attack. I would put repel on myself because usually after I purify Chaore he wants to hellblast me. I stayed close so Chaore got my AC/Vlads aura. Then when the death prophets came up I smashed their faces in.

If things got hairy I'd pop my ult, we'd regroup and start again.
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Post by: Chaore on December 14, 2013, 11:41:07 PM
Yeah I played Omnibro my first Wrath clear and I had Arcane 2/Vlads/Shivas/AC/Heart. Was redonkulous how tanky I was. And the Shivas really really helps slow down mobs.

The worst part is getting to the King. Once you hit the last round he's a really simple raid-style boss and any grindan fanatic should have no problems juking and stuff. Repel is fantastic for avoiding his hellblast shots and you just need to back off behind the green circle for his big clearing swing.

We had Chaore on Axe tanking the King. I would repel myself and heal Chaore and the rest shooting at ranged and we'd all back off (except Chaore) during the AoE attack. I would put repel on myself because usually after I purify Chaore he wants to hellblast me. I stayed close so Chaore got my AC/Vlads aura. Then when the death prophets came up I smashed their faces in.

If things got hairy I'd pop my ult, we'd regroup and start again.

For note, I don't actually reccomend tanking Wraith Slam.

It's a lot of damage and I don't know if popping blademail did damage, and it certainly didn't do noticable amounts.

I was just being silly and manly.
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Post by: Amraphenson on December 14, 2013, 11:41:55 PM
Repel does block it.
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Post by: helvetica on December 15, 2013, 12:08:35 AM
The problem was repelling him made me unable to heal him and he was fat enough to make it through if I did heal him so I saved the repel for me. I was the other melee hero and I had a heart for healing myself anyways (Omni/Axe/Venom/CM/Drow).
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Post by: Dr Rawr on December 15, 2013, 12:45:21 AM
CM was the most boringest thing to play in that game mode. also yea the mana regen was pretty useful for drow
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Post by: Chaore on December 15, 2013, 02:29:18 AM
this just in

we can still throw in wraith night
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Post by: yuyukos on December 15, 2013, 04:12:29 AM
I made it about half-way through New Game++ with Axe/Omni/Venom/Magnus/Sven, starting from Normal. I was Omni, I built Arcane 2, Mek, Refresher, Shiva's.
Due to buyback increasing based on the duration of the game, we got screwed.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 15, 2013, 12:58:24 PM
Wow. The Wraith-Night Ossuary is now $4.
I remember when I sold mine, it was still $25 I think...now I can buy 6 of them.
I made it about half-way through New Game++ with Axe/Omni/Venom/Magnus/Sven, starting from Normal. I was Omni, I built Arcane 2, Mek, Refresher, Shiva's.
Due to buyback increasing based on the duration of the game, we got screwed.
I have never made it to New Game ++. Max I got was New Game+, and ended on the second reincarnation of the Wraith King, since we died to his royal highness.
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Post by: helvetica on December 15, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
Slardar says hi and get slammed

http://www.twitch.tv/thestupidone/c/3397431
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Post by: Raikaria on December 15, 2013, 01:28:54 PM
I'm not sure if me not being in the in-house is a good thing or a bad thing seeing my awful skill level.
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Post by: Messiah on December 15, 2013, 05:18:43 PM
Don't worry, there's always someone worse than you.
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Post by: ActionDan on December 15, 2013, 08:19:41 PM
Slardar says hi and get slammed

http://www.twitch.tv/thestupidone/c/3397431

everything sounds like clingon!
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Post by: Helepolis on December 16, 2013, 07:00:33 AM
Inhouse are best houses. It was fun yesterday.

I'm not sure if me not being in the in-house is a good thing or a bad thing seeing my awful skill level.
Nobody (usually) cares about this. Inhouses can be fun if people take it easy and follow the general fun (don't give me the 'there is no fun shit).

We mostly do -amap/-apar for the silly-factor. But it seems after I had to go do RL stuff, MotK played a regular game.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 16, 2013, 12:16:52 PM
-amap/-apar?

What are these?

Don't worry, there's always someone worse than you.

The sad thing is I know this, See when I was moaning about a awful SK I supported and ended up with more items than despite giving him FB.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 16, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
http://www.playdota.com/learn/commands
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 16, 2013, 12:52:28 PM
Wraith-Night Tribute
Quote
1 random Rare OR Mythical item in Frozen quality.
What the hell is this?!
(http://i.imgur.com/scflc7r.jpg)
I actually thought of selling the chest at first. I was like, "Hmmm...the price of these chests lowered a lot. I guess I should sell it before they lower more.", and then when I tried to sell it I couldn't find it on my steam client inventory, but it's on my Dota 2 in-game inventory. So I figured, "Meh. What the heck, this'll be my first time opening one...".

So I guess me spending $1 on that dust thingy that gives you shining fragments wasn't a waste after all.
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Post by: Prody on December 16, 2013, 02:45:20 PM
So I guess me spending $1 on that dust thingy that gives you shining fragments wasn't a waste after all.
You pretty much worked for it in all that time spent on Wraith night. Play Dota 2 for a living!
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Post by: Bardiche on December 16, 2013, 03:09:12 PM
What the hell, man.
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Post by: Raikaria on December 16, 2013, 04:00:22 PM
OK; I appear to be surrounded by idiots at my level:

http://dotabuff.com/matches/426623657

Do you know hat happened this game?

I pick AA; 2nd person to pick.

I get forced to play solo offlane against an AM and a Timber with no help. At all.

Meanwhile; they have Sven/Puck; and we have Bane and LC safelane; with Ursa jungleing nearby.

Of course; Sven is the one who ends up super fed. Not the AM who can freely ignore the AA forced to solo offlane.

Then of coursae I find out the other 4 are all a group which explains a lot.

64 LH on AA was more than our QoP got <_<

In fact the general trend of my games:
- Something happens to screw me over; such as me being made to offlane as a character who shouldn't; or the carry being incompetent; or someone like a WR stealing LH's from a Bristle and then feeding and then leaving the lane for me to deal with when I'm therefor behind on EXP; LH and Kills
- Other lanes feed horribly
- I can't do anything and just go -_-

How do I get out of this? I play carry I don't get support or I get my lasthits shared or left to die. I play support my carry sucks or worse I end up in a farming position and everyone else feeds.

I think I must be like at the bottom of the pit.

Also worth mentioning that about 60% of people on my games are Russians and the other 40% seem to be little kids. I had no less than 4 members of the enemy team out of 10 act like braggart children at their victories. So yeah; again; I think I am in the pits of the MMR. And it's hard to enjoy playing when for feel completely powerless.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 16, 2013, 10:01:51 PM
How do I get out of this? I play carry I don't get support or I get my lasthits shared or left to die. I play support my carry sucks or worse I end up in a farming position and everyone else feeds.

As for some actual advice on pulling yourself out of low mmr bracket games, I can only give a few pointers:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on December 16, 2013, 10:06:56 PM
1) Huskar
2) Mid or leave
3) Low Priority
4) Huskar
5) Mid and stomp
6) Enemy mid leaves
7) Ez life

Or what Dormio said
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 17, 2013, 04:14:08 AM
We assembled a Rogue/Paladin/Mage party and finally beat this goddamn raid. But we got no rare drops. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIPD4fY0JU)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on December 17, 2013, 06:20:19 AM
That fight was so much fun, and I bet he was SO PISSED he didn't get any of us out of it.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 17, 2013, 07:12:41 AM
brb stacking duel victories
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on December 17, 2013, 10:00:54 AM
Seriously? Valve Seriously?
(http://www.dotatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/1525204_657728847613356_855806062_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on December 17, 2013, 10:01:35 AM
Seriously? Valve Seriously?
(http://www.dotatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/1525204_657728847613356_855806062_n.jpg)
quit while youre ahead
its how they get you.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on December 17, 2013, 05:50:21 PM
You mortal fools, stop sending me recruitment invites because you seem to lack reading (or I suck at English).

It obviously says "If you play together until level 10, battlepoints is boosted by 50%". I am frikken 40+ in Dota2 :V gtfo.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on December 17, 2013, 06:00:29 PM
You mortal fools, stop sending me recruitment invites because you seem to lack reading (or I suck at English).

It obviously says "If you play together until level 10, battlepoints is boosted by 50%". I am frikken 40+ in Dota2 :V gtfo.
Yeah, same here. They just recruit request their entire friends list. Recruitment invite, the spam telemarketer cold call of dota2, :derp:.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on December 17, 2013, 08:41:39 PM
Seriously? Valve Seriously?
(http://www.dotatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/1525204_657728847613356_855806062_n.jpg)

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

YOU LUCKY SON OF A BITCH
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 17, 2013, 08:42:34 PM
You mortal fools, stop sending me recruitment invites because you seem to lack reading (or I suck at English).

It obviously says "If you play together until level 10, battlepoints is boosted by 50%". I am frikken 40+ in Dota2 :V gtfo.
I don't give a fuck. Accept my invite.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on December 17, 2013, 08:47:26 PM
Once you accept an invite you can't be invited anymore. Click once and the spam goes away forever.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on December 17, 2013, 09:05:34 PM
No, go away.

Also good going En, lucky bastard.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on December 20, 2013, 01:51:17 AM
- Added Queen of Pain, Storm Spirit, Templar Assassin, Witch Doctor, and Elder Titan to Wraith-Night.

MORE WRAITH NIGHT!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on December 20, 2013, 04:15:12 PM
>searching for the dota 2 network
oh right its the weekends
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 20, 2013, 04:26:42 PM
I am about 900% done with whitewish and his friends

On that note who wants free stuff since i'll be opening boxes for that sexy luna hair
I still need to give Infinity his OD Staff
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Messiah on December 20, 2013, 06:33:59 PM
If you find any WR/Lina/ items, I would be happy to receive them.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 20, 2013, 08:18:32 PM
who wants free stuff since
Need you even bother asking? >:D
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on December 20, 2013, 08:24:04 PM
Me
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on December 20, 2013, 09:19:04 PM
Dormio's taking it all so no point~
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Hanged Hourai on December 20, 2013, 10:38:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9hx4sxy.gif)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on December 20, 2013, 11:55:34 PM
On that note who wants free stuff since i'll be opening boxes for that sexy luna hair
I would like the CM hair if you get it.
Need you even bother asking? >:D
You already stole Christmas earlier this year, twice.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 20, 2013, 11:56:28 PM
You imply that that would stop me.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on December 21, 2013, 01:29:28 AM
I am about 900% done with whitewish and his friends

On that note who wants free stuff since i'll be opening boxes for that sexy luna hair
I still need to give Infinity his OD Staff
I want free stuff! Dormio has shit-tons already.
>searching for the dota 2 network
oh right its the weekends
Btw.
Quote
Dota 2 Update - December 20th, 2013
Product Update    - Valve 06:26
- Fixed Governor's Salakots that had been wrongly converted into Ancient Imbued Spinal Blades.

- Fixed the 400% battle booster giving only 300%. Active battle boosters of this type have been reset to 500 minutes remaining. The 9 players that already fully consumed their battle boosters have each been granted two new boosters.

- Launching the game will now allow you to reconnect to a match in progress even while searching for the Dota 2 Network. In concert with this change, all existing low priority punishments have been reset.
Thank you Valve. THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on December 21, 2013, 01:30:58 AM
dude i always want free stuff ;_ ;
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on December 21, 2013, 01:35:33 AM
If you find any WR/Lina/ items, I would be happy to receive them.
NO GIVE THEM TO ME OR I'LL PERMABAN YOU
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 21, 2013, 08:19:14 AM
NO GIVE THEM TO ME OR I'LL PERMABAN YOU

LETS SEE YOU /TRY/

Dormio's taking it all so no point~

My shit comes on a first-come-first-serve basis
Basically whoever says me first

You imply that that would stop me.

Ho ho ho

dude i always want free stuff ;_ ;

I'm giving you the Invoker FrostForge Spirits for christmas

Me

no
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 21, 2013, 08:27:11 AM
LETS SEE YOU /TRY/
(http://i.imgur.com/xwanzDe.jpg)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on December 21, 2013, 01:30:17 PM
What are you all, homeless hobos who are desperate for dota2 items?

You obviously need the Mappo Hobo set before you can beg for more.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on December 21, 2013, 01:46:32 PM
I'm giving you the Invoker FrostForge Spirits for christmas

aw yissssss

iceiceice invoker set too baller DO WANT

in other news, Storm Spirit in WraithNight is FUN
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on December 21, 2013, 03:50:44 PM
What are you all, homeless hobos who are desperate for dota2 items?
Yes...yes we are.

Does anyone has atleast some spare trading cards they could give? I want to atleast get the support badge...
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on December 21, 2013, 04:43:51 PM
I just want stuff for the heroes I play.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 21, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
What are you all, homeless hobos who are desperate for dota2 items?
I'm not asking for much, I only want everything.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on December 22, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
so i have the genuine steam cape willing to trade it off just for the alliance PA set.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on December 22, 2013, 05:54:33 PM
Yes...yes we are.

Does anyone has atleast some spare trading cards they could give? I want to atleast get the support badge...

If you need a Bounty Hunter...

I have FOUR.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on December 23, 2013, 02:15:08 AM
so i have the genuine steam cape willing to trade it off just for the alliance PA set.
I got one and...You GOT YOURSELF A DEAL!
If you need a Bounty Hunter...

I have FOUR.
Sure. Just 1 will be fine.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Kingault on December 24, 2013, 05:45:29 AM
I'll take any Axe stuff, if you don't mind.
Meanwhile, anyone want the Second Disciple Dagger for BH?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Keychain on December 26, 2013, 08:53:37 PM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/440592168
http://dotabuff.com/matches/434805366

Mid lane is my biyotch. I also got a rampage as Ember Spirit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqNJPftWCwg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqNJPftWCwg)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on December 27, 2013, 02:28:04 AM
Whoever trades me first when I reach home gets a free frostivus key
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on December 27, 2013, 09:29:19 AM
Whoever trades me first when I reach home gets a free frostivus key
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Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on December 31, 2013, 08:10:27 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/447941126

wherein dormio gets 300+ damage from duel, and our enemy team is the most hilarious stack ever
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 31, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
wherein dormio gets 300+ damage from duel, and our enemy team is the most hilarious stack ever
(http://i.imgur.com/5b4GhM3.jpg)
Fuck this game.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on December 31, 2013, 11:02:59 AM
Oh god Dormio that's why you don't duel Axe.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on December 31, 2013, 11:18:38 AM
That wasn't a duel, look up on the combat log. It was just a very lucky crit. On a blademail'd axe.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 31, 2013, 11:26:45 AM
I was running through their team while I had my BKB running.
And then I defeated the Lich in one-on-one combat.
And then I autoattacked the Axe once.
And my BKB was no longer running.
And I disappeared off the map.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on December 31, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
Also, this is what a fair duel looks like. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzkDYkD2hEw)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 02, 2014, 09:00:58 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1u802a/everybody_complains_about_custom_maps_well_we_are/ IT'S COMING
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on January 03, 2014, 02:43:16 AM
I'm interested in this Pick Your Skills.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on January 03, 2014, 02:55:48 AM
Don't. OMGDota is not fun once people start going op builds (Impetus with 1100 range anyone?)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 03, 2014, 02:59:20 AM
Rot, Dispersion.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on January 03, 2014, 04:08:05 AM
Rot, Dispersion.

bristleback obv
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on January 03, 2014, 04:12:25 AM
multicast+anything
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on January 03, 2014, 04:46:43 AM
But Multicast doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 03, 2014, 04:49:50 AM
Clearly you have not seen the terror that is a 4x multicasted purification in OMGdota.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on January 03, 2014, 04:56:13 AM
Clearly you have not seen the terror that is a 4x multicasted purification in OMGdota.

4x Toss. It's like you're juggling heroes!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on January 03, 2014, 04:57:26 AM
4x Toss. It's like you're juggling heroes!

4x deafening blast, super hadoken
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 03, 2014, 05:03:30 AM
4x harassinate
welp not harassinate anymore
aghanims
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 03, 2014, 07:02:09 AM
If someone codes a map where monsters come out of buildings and attack other people's buildings we will come full circle.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 03, 2014, 10:05:04 AM
Doing the A-Z challenge to start my year off! And in ranked too because I'm a masochist :D

First up, Abaddon
http://dotabuff.com/matches/452306150

Welp that didn't take long. Pretty much decimated the other team, Leoric rage quits 15 minutes in.

Next, Alchemist.
That actually took a few games as the first game was literally me running back to the fountain at 2 minutes to buy the courier our ES failed to get
http://dotabuff.com/matches/452334218

Then this game we were winning then our Slardar got sick apparently and had to quit (as in heaving, his brother was playing with him :[)
http://dotabuff.com/matches/452365352

Then this game which I thought was a lost cause, because 3 of my teammates didn't even pick a hero before the creep spawn. Distruptor spent the whole game whining how bad our drow was too, but I ended up having a lulzy lane and freefarmed for a while and tore down 3 towers. I got big fast.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/452410080

Two down, a quadrillion more to go @_@
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on January 03, 2014, 01:46:59 PM
If someone codes a map where monsters come out of buildings and attack other people's buildings we will come full circle.

I think this is already done on d2ware, but I've forgotten.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on January 03, 2014, 05:46:48 PM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/452955135
Turnaround match

MATCHUP IS EVERYTHING
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on January 05, 2014, 08:35:03 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Dota2Modding/comments/1ueg70/custom_gamemodes_how_to_play_frota_host_your_own/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on January 05, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
Do I see a future where every single popular custom WC3 map is recreated?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 05, 2014, 02:37:18 PM
The MotK New Year's give away starts tomorrow at 1pm Singapore Time, 6th of January for me.

The lucky few besides the confirmed (Dormio/Infinity) will be given a free random set for a random hero who I have already rolled for.

Also depends on my mood~

See you there!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on January 05, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
Where is there?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on January 05, 2014, 07:15:07 PM
Do I see a future where every single popular custom WC3 map is recreated?
Pudge Wars. My body is ready.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 06, 2014, 05:16:32 AM
Ancient Apparition completed in one game:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/457006548

Was doing badly but caught up when Shadow Friend got really fat :3
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on January 06, 2014, 06:26:02 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/YNFLpiW.jpg)
"Hidden Hero. Choose Random to select."

Oh man I feel like I want to do a "Valve Hero" fanart right now.

Yes, I'm not the only one who saw it. I guess I should have screen'd all the WAT right after.

And yes, I've been getting 200 - 300 ping since Jan 1 for some bloody reason.

But yes, that's an all chat by him saying "has randomed Valve". It's just funny really.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 06, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Anti-Mage is definitely Anti-Fun, srsly I'm glad I got this over.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/457069329
http://dotabuff.com/matches/457111484

No space whatsoever to farm, just kept on getting picked off and then blamed for "picking AM when there's already a jungler" in the second game (wtf??)

Then I get stuck offlane and thinking this was going to be an awful game, ended up being amazing. Gandalf on my side gave me so much space and their Alch was doing nothing to stop me from freefarming.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/458238181

That's it for the As! Whups I forgot Axe D:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on January 06, 2014, 10:37:34 PM
Helvy, why don't you let us help you with your A-Z challenge?  We'll even play ranked party making.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 06, 2014, 10:42:44 PM
Then play with me? Nobody is on :(
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on January 06, 2014, 10:46:07 PM
I AM ALWAYS ON.  It's called "Invite person to party".  Just right click someone you like or don't like very much and invite them.  S'all there is to it.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 06, 2014, 10:48:48 PM
Do I even have you on my steamu? :S
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on January 06, 2014, 10:52:58 PM
We are not cavemen Helvy!  We have the technology to fix such issues!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 06, 2014, 10:57:44 PM
ME NO UNDETSTAND INTERNETS ME SMASH
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on January 06, 2014, 11:00:50 PM
AT LEAST PRESS ACCEPT FRIEND BEFORE YOU SMASH MY COMPUTER!

... WAIT MY COMPUTER!  NOOO!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 08, 2014, 05:55:28 AM
Bane hasn't been going too well, not much I can do even if I'm on the top of my game :(

http://dotabuff.com/matches/458352181
http://dotabuff.com/matches/459791117
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on January 08, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
Quote
THE BEST LANGUAGE LEARNING TOOL ON THE INTERNET. LEARN TO SPEAK SPANISH, RUSSIAN, AND PORTUGUESE FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE OF YOUR SELF-ESTEEM AND FAITH IN OTHERS

The top review for Dota 2 on steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/570/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 10, 2014, 04:09:00 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/462396033
Is this a good Bane game y/n?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 10, 2014, 05:13:42 AM
n
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 10, 2014, 05:55:26 AM
nobody asked you
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on January 12, 2014, 04:18:37 PM
The top review for Dota 2 on steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/570/

http://steamcommunity.com//id/6561197979751827/recommended/570/

Link harder.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 19, 2014, 02:31:33 AM
death profit
http://dotabuff.com/matches/474681191
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on January 21, 2014, 07:45:13 AM
So much space created (http://dotabuff.com/matches/477704661)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on January 23, 2014, 10:13:33 AM
So much space created (http://dotabuff.com/matches/477704661)

You see, 70% of the enemy team's lasthits were from my spiders ^^
SPACE
CRE8TED
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on January 23, 2014, 06:00:10 PM
Me and Kprime have been attempting to play ranked and while the first game went smoothly (destroyed as Miranda and K got super Rizzracked), the second game was decidedly... less successful.

Hint, if you ask for Warlock and then demand Invoker after I drafted Tinker for mid, you're not going to get it. And please don't throw the game by building a rapier either (WTF). Granted that game I was doing pretty bad, but even then I had a sheepstick and necro3 while the warlock got a rapier of all things. Really?

Also I love it when someone says "sorry" then dces. I mean if you're going to abandon hit leave game. Don't leave us stuck waiting 5 minutes for you to time out :/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on January 24, 2014, 10:04:03 AM
When someone buys a rapier, it's time to hit the report button.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on January 27, 2014, 01:39:50 PM
http://www.dota2.com/newbloom/day1/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on January 27, 2014, 08:29:17 PM
http://www.dota2.com/newbloom/day2/

i havent read a single thing but they are adding soul keeper or w/e his new name will be
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on January 27, 2014, 09:35:07 PM
New Year's game mode is OMGDota. Time for inhouse rages and stupid ability picks.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on January 28, 2014, 12:48:06 AM
I think randumb ability draft will be my gamemode of choice.

Although Pudge will always be picked; and Hook will always be the first pick.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on January 28, 2014, 12:55:55 AM
It is apparent that you do not comprehend how to make stupidly broken ability combos.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on January 28, 2014, 12:58:10 AM
shrapnel/edict/flameshield/duel
UNFAIR.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 28, 2014, 01:26:45 AM
Rot/Dispersion/Scorched Earth/Pulse Nova

Your move.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on January 28, 2014, 01:29:41 AM
Take Aim/Psi Blades/Overpower/Impetus

GG
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 28, 2014, 01:48:43 AM
But PX where are the bouncing glaives?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on January 28, 2014, 01:57:58 AM
Take Aim, Skeleton Walk, Backstab, Marksmanship.
I just want to right click you :derp:.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on January 28, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
How about the super cool devour goblins greed wrath of nature, other skills don't matter
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on January 28, 2014, 03:25:38 AM
How about the super cool devour goblins greed wrath of nature, other skills don't matter
The rats, they are pleased.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 28, 2014, 03:30:09 AM
How about the super cool devour goblins greed wrath of nature, other skills don't matter
Devour/Spawn Eidolons/Dark Ritual/Rearm step it up.
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Post by: PX on January 28, 2014, 04:08:57 AM
Blink/Blink/Teleport/Nether Swap

Step it up scrubs
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on January 28, 2014, 04:21:28 AM
Devour/Spawn Eidolons/Dark Ritual/Rearm step it up.
no way man id be making less money with dark ritual
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on January 28, 2014, 05:30:17 AM
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/15273-ten-6-80-changes-you-need-to-know

Alch nerf. Veno nerf.
Meepo, more early map control.
Lion and Tinker. Moar OP.
Blind Dagger no longer costs mana.
Bottle can now be target drinkable to allies.
TPing to same location as more allies TP, decreases the channel time.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on January 28, 2014, 05:54:22 AM
http://www.dota2.com/newbloom/day2/
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Morphling
    You can now cast and attack while in Waveform
Fun.
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Veil of Discord
+6 Strength
+6 Agility
+6 Int
+6 HP Regen
+6 Damage
+6 Armor
Need more 6s.
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You now lose one gold per second if you haven't picked a hero after the selection timer runs out in All Pick
Fuck.

Meanwhile brood back to never picked, had a good run.
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Post by: Prody on January 28, 2014, 09:26:51 AM
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Axe is given a huge survivability boost with a 50% base regen increase (from 2 to 3)
smile
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Post by: Raikaria on January 28, 2014, 10:03:46 AM
Devour/Spawn Eidolons/Dark Ritual/Rearm step it up.

Except Devour takes time to give you the gold and you can't nom while digesting.

Also you appear to not understand the terror that is Blink/Meat Hook/Nightmare [You only need rank 2 to consume the 5 seconds free pathing!]/Whatever

Have fun being pulled into the treelines!

Bonus points on ranged heroes if you snipe the donkey as it comes.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 28, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
Eat big creeps and create eidolons on everything else, duh.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on January 28, 2014, 03:17:55 PM
I just had the best of ideas.

Be a ranged hero.

Rage/Feast/Blood Bath/Borrowed Time

GOOD LUCK DYING.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on January 28, 2014, 04:00:18 PM
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on January 28, 2014, 04:04:48 PM
Best skills to stack are passive ones overtime.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on January 28, 2014, 04:29:16 PM
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Yes but DOOOOOOOOOOOM is one out of all the skills in the game.

And it has a longer cooldown.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on January 28, 2014, 04:42:53 PM
Dota2, a game I haven't played for more than a month now because nothing new/interesting aside the standard pro-games.

"Ogre Magi (who now permanently has a secondary stun available with Aghanim's - regardless of its current mana)"

(http://i.imgur.com/1bHC7fR.jpg)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Molten on January 28, 2014, 04:51:30 PM
Oh god, I this game. I just played (http://dotabuff.com/matches/488313512) the dumbest freaking game that I have played in a while.

Clinkz was autoattacking the creeps,Shadow Fiend doing bugger all mid, enabling the enemy QoP to roam to her hearts content, that resulting in her having scepter before 15 min. Phantom Lancer rushing Radiance, Omniknight going almost straight for scepter and I have no clue what happened with their Lone Druid, because the first time I even acknowledged him was when he was pushing towers and farming by himself. Clinkz also thought it'd be a good idea to attack the fed enemy team from behind by himself. I'm not even good at this game and these people manage to be even worse than me. :/

Why is solo queue such a horrible horrible place? :/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on January 28, 2014, 05:41:32 PM
What's wrong with radiance first PL? It's an old build on him
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Molten on January 28, 2014, 06:04:04 PM
I guess I'm just used to seeing Diffusal being the first major item :/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on January 28, 2014, 06:09:45 PM
Diffusal is for killing heroes. Radiance is for super farming (send an illusion to each camp, $$$)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on January 28, 2014, 08:46:30 PM
I just had the best of ideas.

Be a ranged hero.

Rage/Feast/Blood Bath/Borrowed Time

GOOD LUCK DYING.

Ranged heroes have pretty terrible hp and attack speed. It's still pretty easy to kill you with burst damage.

Now for a proper stupid build: Frost Armour, Reactive Armour, Living Armour and any silly ulti to round it off.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on January 28, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
Now for a proper stupid build: Frost Armour, Reactive Armour, Living Armour and any silly ulti to round it off.
Borrowed Time.  :derp:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on January 28, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
We're getting Pheonix too :D
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on January 28, 2014, 10:14:07 PM
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Grab your friends and rewrite history! Now you can take control in any replay created after the New Bloom update, then act out the rest of the match from that moment forward. During a replay, hit the Takeover button to create a lobby where everyone can choose which hero to portray. Resume the match, and become the one to turn the tide of a favorite pro play, discover a way to escape an impossible setup, or relive a cherished team fight again and again.

Takeovers are considered a new match and have separate replays, which are recorded from the moment you assume control.
Huh, that's interesting.

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Items that have been purchased while dead can now be sold, if that item was bought during the same death. Previously, no items could be sold while dead.
Whoo, finally.

Use the edit button you fool! -Hele
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Post by: Raikaria on January 30, 2014, 05:42:14 PM
I just rolled Brewmaster.

Phantasm + Drunken Brawler + Huskar's low HP passive + whatever the achohol thing that gives miss chance is called.

I kinda became unkillable.

Edit: Grow + Enchantress = Cleave Ranged Autos.
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Post by: helvetica on January 31, 2014, 07:58:53 AM
Antimage with berserker's blood, mana break, hoof stomp and life break is hilariously fun. Dunk and stomp and flail like an idiot!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on February 01, 2014, 12:54:23 AM
I may have accidentally made a very good set.

Magnus

Shockwave/Midnight Pulse/Sadist/RP

Shockwave and Sadist maxed first because Pulse was for for throwing after an RP. [I also got a Veil of Dischord after Heart because when you're stuck sitting in Midnight Pulse for 3.5 seconds and getting Shockwaves, I may as well.]

This basically allowed me infinite Shockwave spam.

Then I start landing THE BIG RP'S. [Like; 3~4 man constantly]

One particularly hilarious moment was when I RP'ed, and then when the stun was over, the Nyx used Black Hole. Only to die halfway through it to the Midnight Pulse.

I only died once in the whole game.

I only died once.

Excuse me while I feel warm and fuzzy that I did a GOOD THING.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 06, 2014, 05:38:11 AM
The Year Beast is here!
And the MotK stack only managed to get 38m damage onto it post-Ursa.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on February 06, 2014, 08:08:24 AM
The Year Beast is here!
And the MotK stack only managed to get 38m damage onto it post-Ursa.

Well, we started to become poverty.  I don't think anyone has ingots anymore :V
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 06, 2014, 08:36:23 AM
What's the highest Jade coins you got?

Does favor stack in the Year Beast?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 06, 2014, 09:01:36 AM
1,000,000,000+ damage (Rank: XX) for 5,000 Jade Tokens is the highest reward.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on February 06, 2014, 10:41:25 AM
I got rank C with random pubbies who did nothing and had no concept of one person kiting the beast away from DPS dead people so another could ress them.

Apparently Wraith King is bugged as hell in that mode too, because Ressurection didn't work after like, the 2nd patch. Instead he stands there, can't buy back once like everyone else because the game thinks he is Ressing anyway, so can only revive by ally.

Still, I got enough Jade Tokens for a 1,500 box together with what I got from parcels and stuff. And that got me the Spring Ward Skin with 3 sockets. [Wards Purchased+2 empty]

Also IDK what they were building because they were hitting far lower than me. Also they didn't buy any of the items. Like the mine firework that does MASSIVE damage.

Also some random guy got a courier drop in one of my games yesterday, a Coco the Courageous.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 06, 2014, 10:46:13 AM
The MotK stack was doing 10m (Rank: S) runs with no ingots lol.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on February 06, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
Thanks to the Bloom Bounty, the prices of genuine items have literally been halved. Sad day.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on February 06, 2014, 11:18:29 AM
My first play I got Rank S with 3500 Jade Coins IIRC.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on February 06, 2014, 12:28:31 PM
The MotK stack was doing 10m (Rank: S) runs with no ingots lol.

D:
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Post by: Chaore on February 06, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
1,000,000,000+ damage (Rank: XX) for 5,000 Jade Tokens is the highest reward.

Correction, 2,000,000,000 (XXX obby) for 10k tokens is.

Both are impossible even with the glitch.

gg valve wp
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 06, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
Huh.
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 06, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
Correction, 2,000,000,000 (XXX obby) for 10k tokens is.

Both are impossible even with the glitch.

gg valve wp
Ye. Getting 100m is hard enuf...now the glitch has been fixed, getting to 1m is now the new hard thing.
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Post by: Dular on February 06, 2014, 07:08:11 PM
Yeah, Ursa should still have his fury swipes, but no more Wraith King.  Sure, everything will revolve around Ursa, but at least people will have a potential to get above 10 million if they are poor.  Right now, it's next to impossible to even get rank D on him if you have no money.  It rewards only the people with any money now.

If we could get rank C, then I'd be okay with that, but this.. Bleh.
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 07, 2014, 06:04:22 AM
I just got a Genuine Jadehoof and Redhoof in my smurf acc. I sold my Jadehoof, 'cause I'm sure it'll get cheaper later on, just to get some profit.

But can I ask? How the f did I get them? They just appeared in my acc out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 07, 2014, 06:15:40 AM
Top 1% damage dealt for Jadehoof, top 10% damage dealt for Redhoof.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on February 07, 2014, 10:54:21 AM
I just got a Genuine Jadehoof and Redhoof in my smurf acc. I sold my Jadehoof, 'cause I'm sure it'll get cheaper later on, just to get some profit.

But can I ask? How the f did I get them? They just appeared in my acc out of nowhere.
Grats on the extra change
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on February 07, 2014, 01:21:32 PM
What price to sell the Jadehoof at? I doubt one would go at the top prices of $400. $100 possible?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on February 07, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
What price to sell the Jadehoof at? I doubt one would go at the top prices of $400. $100 possible?
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/570/Genuine%20Jadehoof
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 07, 2014, 01:35:38 PM
Huh, I didn't check until now but apparently I did well enough to get a Jadehoof too.
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 07, 2014, 02:36:38 PM
Huh, I didn't check until now but apparently I did well enough to get a Jadehoof too.
I guess your 30 Million MoTK stack was part of the 1%.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on February 08, 2014, 01:08:38 AM
Well this was a weird yet hilarious game.

I roll PA. I get the following:

Earthshock/Phantom Strike/Stifleing Dagger/Overgrowth

I have a nightmare lane against a Silencer with Fury Swipes and an Ursa with Glaives of Wisdom and Timber Chain, but I survive, and only die once, and pick up some gold with daggers and assists.

Then I become the 400 mana pool 900 HP initiator that PA was born to be.

AND IT WAS GLORIOUS.

Apparently a huge range slowing dagger into a huge range blink into a massive Aoe disable is pretty good even if you're paper.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 08, 2014, 02:43:58 AM
The first round of offerings has been collected.
I'll post my haul in a bit.

EDIT: Damn, nothing notable.
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 08, 2014, 02:52:53 AM
The first round of offerings has been collected.
I'll post my haul in a bit.

EDIT: Damn, nothing notable.
What did you get? I got a Netherax, Pauldron of the Teardrop Ice, and Featherfall Bow. I already have the Bow so I sold it.

Does the number of "Favor of the Shades" you get depends on the number of offerings you give? Does it also depends on their rarity?
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 08, 2014, 02:56:26 AM
Drow nekomimi, Drow cape, trash ES totem, and some other forgettable item.
Favor of the Shades depends on something, not entirely sure what yet since I got 4, Rikter got 3 (he pulled a genuine out of these, the bastard), and Chaore got 5.
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Post by: Chaore on February 08, 2014, 03:01:23 AM
I'll note while most of my stuff was common and boxes, I threw in a mythical windrunner bow so yeah there is that.

I got a qop hood, netherax, owl for chen, spring ward, and something else.

Nothing really great since i just traded for a windrunner ward and windwaifu for laifu.
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 08, 2014, 03:13:26 AM
So it's possible to pull a genuine item out of these? Hmm. That's pretty lucky. Maybe it's also possible for it to range to Legendary/Arcana items.
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Post by: DNAbc on February 08, 2014, 03:57:26 AM
I was about to come in and declare I officially quit dota2 and you can have my stuff

I reconsidered
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Post by: helvetica on February 08, 2014, 04:17:52 AM
I put in nothing but chests and poly scrolls and got back 3 red envelopes lol.
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Post by: yuyukos on February 08, 2014, 04:45:53 AM
I put in nothing but chests and poly scrolls and got back 3 red envelopes lol.
I did the same, I got the same. Hive mind  :V.
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Post by: Raikaria on February 08, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
I put a load of stuff in, including cosmetics for characters I don't play, some Uncommon.

I got 2 Favors of the Shades and 8 Crimson Parcels.

I then got an Auspicious Belt of Teardrop Ice [Rare belt for PL] and Auspicious Horns of Malicious Efflorence [Rare Spectre Helm] from the Shades.

Neither of whom I play and I can't even offer these rares D:
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 08, 2014, 01:30:48 PM
I put a load of stuff in, including cosmetics for characters I don't play, some Uncommon.

I got 2 Favors of the Shades and 8 Crimson Parcels.

I then got an Auspicious Belt of Teardrop Ice [Rare belt for PL] and Auspicious Horns of Malicious Efflorence [Rare Spectre Helm] from the Shades.

Neither of whom I play and I can't even offer these rares D:
Wat do u want for the belt? I have a Thorned Skitterers of Despite for Brood, Raider's Patch for Windrunner, and Riftshadow Roamer's Fine n' Fancy for Meepo. I use Meepo, but I still don't have a set of items yet, so it's fine.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on February 08, 2014, 01:36:32 PM
I'll take the Spectre item off you. Dormio's using my acc for a few days so I'll trade with you later.
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Post by: Raikaria on February 08, 2014, 02:39:17 PM
Wat do u want for the belt? I have a Thorned Skitterers of Despite for Brood, Raider's Patch for Windrunner, and Riftshadow Roamer's Fine n' Fancy for Meepo. I use Meepo, but I still don't have a set of items yet, so it's fine.

None of those really stand out to me because I don't play any of those. Well, I play the occasional WR, but I mainly play Bane/Leshrac/CM/Shadow Shaman/Witch Doctor.

That said I play pretty much anything that doesn't require good micro and isn't a hard carry. [Badly, and because everyone else always wants to be the OMG DAMAGE 4 DIGIT PA CRIT.]
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 08, 2014, 03:29:40 PM
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Favor_of_the_Shades
Time to put in a trash mythical and hope for the best.

None of those really stand out to me because I don't play any of those. Well, I play the occasional WR, but I mainly play Bane/Leshrac/CM/Shadow Shaman/Witch Doctor.

That said I play pretty much anything that doesn't require good micro and isn't a hard carry. [Badly, and because everyone else always wants to be the OMG DAMAGE 4 DIGIT PA CRIT.]
Want a Rubick rare? I have lots of CM items...and I mean lots. But CM's mah waifu. Best semi-carry ganking support evah.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on February 08, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
Treant cosmetics when? never ;_;
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Post by: Prody on February 08, 2014, 04:52:46 PM
Treant cosmetics when? never ;_;
Ideas:
Arcana sakura tree treant
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Post by: Raikaria on February 08, 2014, 05:51:16 PM
Want a Rubick rare? I have lots of CM items...and I mean lots. But CM's mah waifu. Best semi-carry ganking support evah.

Rubick works.

Debating if I should put in my Elder Mighty Boar. I use my Genuine Smeevil and Mammoth after all... and I have a Mighty Boar anyway...

Nm it won't let me.

Also never take Elder Dragon form on Juggernaught. Your projectiles just float in the air.
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Post by: helvetica on February 08, 2014, 10:23:52 PM
Fuck Treant, Timbersaw and Clockwerk and Tinker have no love. This bias against mechanized heroes has gone on for too long!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on February 09, 2014, 12:54:58 AM
I just rolled Legion Commander, and somehow Duel got through to me despite being Dire Last Pick.

So did Fury Swipes.

And then I got Snowball + Hoof Stomp.

Basic summary of that game:
I CAME IN LIKE A WRECKING BALL

Even then I didn't steal the spotlight for stupid builds. A Magnus had:
Empower
Enchant Totem
Walrus Punch

Her was literally One-shotting people with his R.

Even my ability to have 4 seconds of AoE Stun and then Duel after that with Fury Swipes building up and a 0.5 AS didn't match that stupidity. [Although I did have the highest GPM]

Ability Draft is like crack to me. It's so random and stupid and I love that about it. [Also it's completely different from anything LoL offers which is something that makes me play DotA a lot more than I usually do right now]
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 10, 2014, 06:30:19 AM
I got another Jadehoof...

If this keeps up, the Jadehoof and Redhoof's uniqueness will drop like a stone.
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Post by: Prody on February 10, 2014, 09:13:22 AM
I got another Jadehoof...

If this keeps up, the Jadehoof and Redhoof's uniqueness will drop like a stone.
Sell now for maximum profits before its price drops from the increase in supply, or wait from the possibility of it going vintage
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Post by: Helepolis on February 13, 2014, 03:09:35 PM
Now you know people:

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[16:01:31] <Arknarok> by the way, the people in my office got bored from all the dota they've played, so they bought a darts board and play darts instead. And OF COURSE they've picked a place for the target so that a missed shot could hit a passerby visiting our office
[16:01:43] <Z-Virus> Ark: Awesome.
[16:01:48] <Helepolis> Arknarok, what you're allowed to play Dota at work?
[16:01:55] <Arknarok> I personally don
[16:01:57] <Arknarok> don't
[16:01:59] <Arknarok> as I've mentioned
[16:02:04] <Helepolis> but your fellows do?
[16:02:07] <Arknarok> but a lot of people finish their lunch early
[16:02:19] <Arknarok> and they still have time before the lunch break is over
[16:02:21] <Helepolis> Now I totally understand why those Russians rage quit.
[16:02:31] <Helepolis> They dont hav enough time to finish the game, so they just leave
[16:02:49] <Helepolis> This totally explains why they suddenly start diving and feeding
[16:02:55] <Helepolis> An excuse to leave the game.
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Post by: DNAbc on February 13, 2014, 04:07:49 PM
With my home Internet secured after forever now, I can finally indulge myself in some stable games of DOTA!

Even better, my 1 year low priority ban got removed! And a free XP booster drop, teehee.
(for those wondering yes it took a year for the ISP provider to fix their fluctuating net at my home)

I very much approve of the Eight Shades of Fortune promotion thing, an excuse to rid us of all those chests. Though according to reddit, what you get seems to be in proportion to the rarity and number of items you put into. Apparently someone even got couriers and mythicals from that.

New heroes op
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on February 15, 2014, 11:21:42 AM
After hanging out with my 3D waifu. I came back excited for the new Year Beast update. And moar item hoarding.
-
Fighting New Year Beast; "Wow, this new year beast has some quite good updates on his moves and stats. His Blue Balls of death are actually pretty cool. Now I can put my Touhou skills to the test, in a >3D environment<!"
Later; "What the F--k! Most annoying update ever. Come on. Oh God, Volvo, I hate this update. We can't even get to 5M easy. And what? Bloom Bounty has 99% chance to get Rares now, instead of Mythicals and above? Well F--k you too Valve. Seriously, F--k you too."
-
And here I thought dem touhouz skillz can help me....Hate you Valve. Even though i got $120 off your event in the past few days.
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Post by: Prody on February 19, 2014, 03:06:31 PM
I need party for new year beast to use up all my ingots, i haven't played since the first release but i'm willing to do anything
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Post by: Zerviscos on February 19, 2014, 03:43:08 PM
I need party for new year beast to use up all my ingots, i haven't played since the first release but i'm willing to do anything
Wait 17 more hours. I'm feeling sleepy and I need to go to school. I need to burn 25k of Ingots to get dem low quality couriers.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on February 19, 2014, 11:18:27 PM
http://www.freetoplaythemovie.com/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on February 22, 2014, 05:02:28 AM
Does anyone know the reason behind the price drop in name tags and description tags on the steam market?
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Post by: Amraphenson on February 26, 2014, 06:58:15 AM
Chinese new years event gives me an auspicious robot
I sense rascism.
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Post by: Chaore on February 26, 2014, 07:10:24 AM
Does anyone know the reason behind the price drop in name tags and description tags on the steam market?

The vermillion treasures hand them out for opening them, if you haven't found out already.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on February 28, 2014, 04:23:32 PM
Who's in for the fantasy league? Bought a ticket and thought it would let me invite anyone but you might need your own to participate.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on March 12, 2014, 05:20:24 AM
essence aura + voodoo restoration + mystic flare = infinite ion cannons
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Post by: Dorakyura on March 12, 2014, 09:30:47 AM
essence aura + voodoo restoration + mystic flare = infinite ion cannons

Sounds fun, havn't seen essence aura + voodoo restoration for a long time.

I got Enchant Totem and Walrus Punch in a game, a russian was complaining about it, though he had 2 chances to deny the combo. (I was 6th pick, right in the middle), lvl 7 = 1500 crits, highest crit was 3600 at max level. I had like 45 kills, but also died like 10 times, I didn't care anymore anyway  :V
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Post by: Bio on March 12, 2014, 12:03:01 PM
essence aura + voodoo restoration + mystic flare = infinite ion cannons
Essence Aura/Voodoo/Tombstone/Rearm
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Post by: ActionDan on March 12, 2014, 12:17:43 PM
When was the last time I played this game lol
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Post by: Dorakyura on March 12, 2014, 04:56:00 PM
Essence Aura/Voodoo/Tombstone/Rearm
sounds like fun :D
but, if enemy had Splash Attackdamage or Axe or Brisleback => Infinite Money :V
I want to see that combo with netherward once
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Post by: Helepolis on March 12, 2014, 07:35:08 PM
If by any chance you get a beefy melee STR/carryish hero and snot + aftershock is available >> Get them asap.
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Post by: DNAbc on March 13, 2014, 06:53:24 AM
Clearly you have never seen the horror that is essence aura/voodoo/mirror image/rearm.

Nobody was able to do anything, at all.
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Post by: Dorakyura on March 13, 2014, 06:59:51 PM
I guess this is the best place, or not since most of you are not living in Europe anyway.
it's about the 28th and 29th of June:
(http://cdn2.esl.tv/fileadmin/templates/emsone_v1/images/esl-one-frankfurt14/esl-one-logo_head.png) (http://www.esl-one.com/dota2/frankfurt-2014/)
(http://cdn2.esl.tv/fileadmin/templates/emsone_v1/images/esl-one-frankfurt14/ffm_date.png) (http://www.esl-one.com/dota2/frankfurt-2014/)

Since I live in Germany and Frankfurt is like only 2 hours from here I plan to go there (incl. Hotel or Tent)

I don't have a ticket yet but the third ticket wave will start soonish.

If anyone will join in for the action, I can check for a place to sleep and stuff, and get tickets :V (also urban transportation using a not so luxury VW Golf)
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Post by: Dorakyura on March 13, 2014, 08:42:29 PM
While listening to Nightwish, I wrote this down just moments ago,

am I'm a horrible person?

Code: [Select]
I wish I had an Rizock
For one moment in Dota
I wish I had you, Rizock, this game

Deep into this losing streak
I took a step outside this queue with russians
prepare to hate me, when I'm angry again.
This game, I will rage at you like never before

I wish I had a Rizock
For one moment in Dota
I wish I had you, Rizock

I'm in love with my anger
Burning friend into hate
I wish I had you, Rizock, this game

Rizock was the only one online at that moment :V
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Post by: Amraphenson on March 19, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
Free to Play's out guys. Watch for feels.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 27, 2014, 08:03:41 AM
http://www.dota2.com/leaderboards

I think this is pretty cool.
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Post by: Pesco on March 27, 2014, 11:53:51 AM
I don't see your name on there Dormio. Step it up.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on March 27, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
The top player in China is from the US. Well.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on March 27, 2014, 12:05:57 PM
I don't see your name on there Dormio. Step it up.
I don't play solo queue nearly enough to meet the requirements to enter the leaderboard.
Like, I don't think I even have 100 ranked games total, let alone 100 solo ranked games.
Plus my solo rank is shit.
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Post by: Amraphenson on March 31, 2014, 04:24:44 AM
Naga MvP. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRGjm_Eqfz4)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 01, 2014, 04:58:06 AM
This article is pretty hilarious. (http://dotabuff.com/blog/2014-04-01-dotabuff-to-sponsor-professional-dota-team)

They've actually made a DBPR statistic for players, which is pretty entertaining.
It seems to have a couple of set values that it assigns to players that doesn't seem to be entirely random.
Or maybe it's just coincidence, who knows.

What a noob that Lod[A], btw.
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Post by: Amraphenson on April 01, 2014, 05:24:16 AM
I have the exact same rating as Dendi.
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Post by: Dular on April 01, 2014, 05:42:02 AM
I have the same rating as Chaore.  -1039.

On the scale of -3000 to 7000, Dullios has 8000+.  :V
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 01, 2014, 06:11:08 AM
Maybe the people I looked at were pure coincidence.
Either way, that article is gold and you people should read it before trying to determine the size of your PNIS.
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Post by: DNAbc on April 13, 2014, 01:26:38 AM
I finally got to ranked matchmaking! :V

Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 14, 2014, 11:45:31 PM
Every goddamn time I'm against an Axe. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLIuhmZ4Obw)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on April 15, 2014, 12:15:13 AM
Praise RNGesus.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 15, 2014, 03:11:34 PM
One of these days I will actually play properly instead of just doing random shit to amuse myself. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPsL7JRuICk)
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Post by: PX on April 15, 2014, 05:48:04 PM
But blink is legit item on a hero that needs to get next to them to kill them
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on April 15, 2014, 06:15:57 PM
*insert anime "Where are you looking?" here*
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on April 16, 2014, 10:53:03 AM
Every goddamn time I'm against an Axe. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLIuhmZ4Obw)
Praise RNGesus.
Actually not really. Notice how there is almost whole creep wave of sentinal and 2 heroes. Axe does Berserker call as well. Now imagine how much chance you have suddenly to proc Helix with at least 6 objects hitting him while briefly having increased armour. It is going to hurt.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on April 16, 2014, 04:54:54 PM
Actually not really. Notice how there is almost whole creep wave of sentinal and 2 heroes. Axe does Berserker call as well. Now imagine how much chance you have suddenly to proc Helix with at least 6 objects hitting him while briefly having increased armour. It is going to hurt.

You've clearly never played Axe before
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Post by: Amraphenson on April 16, 2014, 05:50:35 PM
Me on axe? Two creep waves and two heroes, no spin.
Enemy on axe? Half a creep wave, one hero, more spinning than miku's leek
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Post by: Helepolis on April 17, 2014, 05:43:25 AM
Me on axe? Two creep waves and two heroes, no spin.
Enemy on axe? Half a creep wave, one hero, more spinning than miku's leek
Bro, do you even spin?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on April 17, 2014, 06:30:32 AM
Bro, do you even spin?

No. That's the point.
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Post by: Bio on April 17, 2014, 06:34:00 AM
If you wanted to spin you should have picked Jug.
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Post by: Helepolis on April 17, 2014, 06:41:48 AM
Or Storm Spirit.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 17, 2014, 06:51:05 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ET7WKyl.gif)
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Post by: Helepolis on April 17, 2014, 06:52:48 AM
Oh god Hina's ult, the ultimate spin.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 17, 2014, 11:43:10 PM
So I have 1006 games played on the Radiant side as opposed to 1987 games played on the Dire side.
I think I have actual proof for the "Always Dire" phenomenon.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 18, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
4K trash! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX-Xh__nVIg)
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Post by: ActionDan on April 18, 2014, 02:28:05 PM
He has to improve his luck stat.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on April 23, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
Getting a TI4 ticket on Friday.

At the normal selling price.

My wallet is ready :getdown:
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 26, 2014, 01:46:44 AM
Some of these changes are fucking hilarious (http://www.dota2.com/springcleaning).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on April 26, 2014, 02:49:32 AM
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Lina
Attack range increased from 650 to 670
Aghanim's Scepter Laguna Blade damage goes through magic immunity [?]

I'm wet.

Quote
Vengeful Spirit
When Vengeful Spirit is slain, her killer is inflicted with a negative Vengeance Aura, which decreases the damage of her killer and their nearby allies, until she revives [?]

Interesting, but...

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Windranger
Activating Windrun now disjoints incoming attack projectiles
Aghanim's Scepter Focus Fire damage reduction decreased from -50/-40/-30 to -30/-15/0, and no longer has special rules for procs

>dat Aghanim
I wonder if we're going to see more Windrunners try to carry now?
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 26, 2014, 03:00:14 AM
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HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: i really really
HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: wanna see if lvl1 usra rosh with morbid mask
HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: like if you random him
HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: wait a bit and run into pit
도미오: that's literally waiting a minute
도미오: also it won't work if you get bashed early
HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: ;_;
도미오: i also don't htink level 1 fury stacks fast enough to survive rosh hits
도미오: esp without the stout sheild start
HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: well mebby just go to lane and pick up like 3 lvls and a mask
도미오: >lane
도미오: >ursa is missing
도미오: >first blood
HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: shhhhhhh
도미오: you're not thinking of the big picture here whore eye
도미오: have you not even considered
HangedHourai - ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: not any more obv than wisp or ld on the same team
도미오: mask of madness rush ursa
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Post by: ActionDan on April 26, 2014, 05:28:46 AM
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Chaos Knight ?Phantasm now has a 50% chance to create one extra illusion when cast
lol
Quote
Gyrocopter ?Homing Missile now hits invisible units
?Homing Missile hits required to destroy increased from 3 to 3/3/4/5
ew
Quote
Jakiro
?Aghanim's Scepter Macropyre duration increased from 7 to 14
?Aghanim's Scepter Macropyre range increased from 1350 to 1800
lol
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Keeper of the Light ?Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade: Provides permanent Spirit Form. Additionally, the following effects are active during the day: Keeper of the Light gains unobstructed vision and Illuminate heals allies for 75% of the damage values
trolllolol
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Lich ?Frost Armor can now be cast on buildings
?Aghanim's Scepter Chain Frost no longer has a bounce limit
lol
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Lina ?Attack range increased from 650 to 670
?Aghanim's Scepter Laguna Blade damage goes through magic immunity
hot
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Necrophos
?Reaper's Scythe now adds +30% duration to the respawn timer
trollol
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Omniknight ?Purification area of effect increased from 225 to 240
?Repel no longer removes positive buffs from allies
?Guardian Angel duration increased from 5/6/7 to 6/7/8
?Aghanim's Scepter Guardian Angel duration increased from 5/6/7 to 8/9/10
ew
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Shadow Demon ?Added Aghanim's Scepter upgrade: Demonic Purge cooldown replaced with two charges that have a 40 second replenish time
freeeee ults
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Silencer ?Agility growth increased from 2.1 to 3.0
?Curse of the Silent cooldown reduced from 20/18/16/14 to 20/16/12/8
let's make this hero even more annoying to play against
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Vengeful Spirit ?When Vengeful Spirit is slain, her killer is inflicted with a negative Vengeance Aura, which decreases the damage of her killer and their nearby allies, until she revives
KILL MEEEEEE!
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Post by: Bio on April 26, 2014, 05:37:03 AM
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Meepo is no longer available in Ability Draft

Why even play then.
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Post by: Helepolis on April 26, 2014, 07:50:17 AM
Rofl lmao, agh Lich in public is going to wreck people hard.

Also boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo for Mappo disable in -ad. When are we getting multi cast =/

Edit:
[09:51:23] <Helepolis> Ogre Magi
[09:51:23] <Helepolis>     Base armor increased by 1
[09:51:23] <Helepolis>     Cast animation improved from 0.56 to 0.45
[09:51:26] <Helepolis> best changes
[09:51:31] <Helepolis> ogre propick progames.
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Post by: Prody on April 26, 2014, 11:55:25 AM
volume warning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc6GYt6aeUM)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on April 26, 2014, 11:59:28 AM
volume warning (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc6GYt6aeUM)

I need to unretire to play lich.

This is my goal.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on April 26, 2014, 12:04:55 PM
You can also just play Visage and catch the Chain Frost with your birds and then kill off your entire team.
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Post by: Zerviscos on April 26, 2014, 03:37:19 PM
OPiest Buff = Lich
Latter = Lina, Ursa, Huskar, Broodmother(again), Kotl, Wr, Abaddon

Nerfiest Nerf = Terroblade(already is squishy, now squishier with decreased str gain), and Medusa
Latter = Lycan, Ember Spirit, Invoker(thank God, as much as I liked playing Quas Wex, I hate it when the enemy does it and does EMP<-OP skill, Tornade all the time)
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Post by: Amraphenson on April 26, 2014, 04:03:18 PM
I think the bigger nerd to Tb is that you cant jus leave a point in reflection and have a jolly good time anymore.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on April 26, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
I think the bigger nerd to Tb is that you cant jus leave a point in reflection and have a jolly good time anymore.
I actually just use it for early-game slow whilst the Metamorphosis does the DPS for me. I guess you could make that up for atleast a disable/slow support/hero on your lane early on. Level 4 Reflection is .5 longer than previous tho.

I still think the decreased str gain is huge.  1.9 to 1.4 means he has a longer time to get atleast a chunk HP. At around higher Level 25, his max HP gained through base stat gain is decreased from 902.5 to 665. Considering Terrorblade's HP is slightly already even lower than some supports, that's a huge nerf for me.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 26, 2014, 11:08:35 PM
The Lich aghs buff... is pretty much worthless though. The ice armor on buildings is pretty good though.
The KotL aghs upgrade is amazing, there is only the slight problem that in order to get it, the KotL needs an aghs.
Abaddon's aghs seems pretty goddamn crazy for games that go on longer.

Also, Medusa got buffed.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on April 27, 2014, 01:00:15 AM
Quote
Also, Medusa got buffed.

But that Radiant Ancient Camp farm!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 27, 2014, 01:02:04 AM
But that Radiant Ancient Camp farm!
... is trash and whoever tries it deserves to lose.
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Post by: Bardiche on April 27, 2014, 01:06:19 AM
... is trash and whoever tries it deserves to lose.

But the Ancient creeps!

Also, lol, Lina can Ult the Courier. No clue why you would but there you have it.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on April 27, 2014, 01:09:15 AM
Kotl mid lane gogogogogo. I'd totally do that every game I play.
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Post by: PX on April 27, 2014, 01:28:48 AM
But the Ancient creeps!

Also, lol, Lina can Ult the Courier. No clue why you would but there you have it.

Lina was always able to ult Magic Immune units. It just used to do nothing :V
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on April 27, 2014, 03:05:32 AM
Lina was always able to ult Magic Immune units. It just used to do nothing :V

This time it kills the courier.


I forgot the rage. Played DOTA with a friend. Picked Silencer first on seeing enemy Pudge. Figured it'd be easy to midlane against. Get pushed out of midlane because Invoker wants it and the entire team is all "silencer go solo offlane". Uh, okay, I don't have the items for it but whatever.

Axe, Rubick, Terrorblade on offlane. Get constant harass, can't leave tower. So that looks like the game's gonna suck for me, since I can't stray from tower or Rubick and Terrorblade are gonna ensure Axe gets to fury me.

Pudge comes over to gank me. No missing call.
Spirit Breaker comes over to gank me. No missing call.
Invoker ports in, rushes into the trilane and gets killed.
Invoker ports in again and does it again!
Tower is broken.
Figure I might get some farm in now. Nope. Invoker abandons the midlane because Pudge2hard to lane against and starts taking the creeps in offlane now that the trilane has gone ganking. Tells me go away because I'm interfering with his farm and experience.

In all this, my friend insisted on remaining in safe lane to pull creeps and babysit Spectre who had uncontested freefarm anyway as Spirit Breaker went roaming. "Silencer is a great solo offlane, just need to be careful."

Yeah, because at level 4 I'm going to beat the level 8 trilane.

And they wonder why I ragequit that game.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 27, 2014, 01:41:20 PM
So, the enemy team had mega creeps and were double our kills by 40 minutes.
Fucking hell (http://dotabuff.com/matches/630344128).
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Post by: PX on April 27, 2014, 02:44:08 PM
I like those rapiers on Kunkka :V
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Post by: Bio on April 27, 2014, 02:46:30 PM
I like those rapiers on Kunkka :V
For a moment there I was also wondering where Kunkka's money had gone to.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 28, 2014, 12:32:56 AM
I like those rapiers on Kunkka :V
For a moment there I was also wondering where Kunkka's money had gone to.
At first, the Kunkka had two rapiers and the Slark had one.
This was about 40 minutes in when they were taking all of our barracks.
And then we wiped them and stole three rapiers.
At the 80 minute mark, their team tried to race us after we wiped them.
Their team consisting of a Kunkka with three more rapiers.
So yeah Kunkka actually bought 5 rapiers throughout this game.

Also, we only got a walking courier at the 30 minute mark.
And then we got a flying courier at 80.
This courier was also lugging around four BKBs by the 60 minute mark.
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Post by: Raikaria on April 28, 2014, 05:03:36 PM
. Meep - Removed from Ability Draft

R.I.P Divided We Stand + Nether Ward
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 29, 2014, 09:21:06 AM
Does anyone want to trade lives with me?
(http://i.imgur.com/8NI6BYK.png)
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Post by: Raikaria on April 29, 2014, 09:25:02 AM
It dosen't even *give* me a time.

Also damn Dormio.
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Post by: Chaore on April 29, 2014, 09:27:15 AM
It dosen't even *give* me a time.

Also damn Dormio.

Did you properly do it? You need your steam ID.

It gives me 294th, so we know it's super limited at the moment.

Not as if Dormio hasn't played too much dota. He's like half a pro player.

Give him another year and we can send him to work in tournaments.
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Post by: Raikaria on April 29, 2014, 11:25:27 AM
Did you properly do it? You need your steam ID.

Yes, I know how to use it. It gives me nothingness.
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Post by: Pesco on April 29, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
Time spent on Dota is meaningless compared to money spent on Dota.

Flight and hotel to TI4 all booked and confirmed. Wallet now as poor as a 5 ;_;
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Post by: DNAbc on April 29, 2014, 04:02:30 PM
Had this really cool game as spectre where we reversed beautifully from a fed LS with perfect aa ultis.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/633697461

Then this shitpile happened with spectre and bb being instagibbed by two random people who weren't talking throughout drafting, and didn't even skill snot and desolate respectively until level 4.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/633892939

Needless to say I am pretty raging mad right now, fuck you valve why do you put these noobs with me who cant even pick their skills straight.
oh and i got blamed as the captain for the latter game, our lineup was spectre/bristleback/magnus/witch doctor/ancient apparition, against their vengeful spirit/shadow shaman/DROW RANGER/DRAGON KNIGHT/LUNA. I have no fucking clue how was it even possible to lose that one since early, and I have even less fucking clue why the former won game where I played with four Russians was so much better than this latter shitpile with Europeans. What the hell went wrong with this world.
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Post by: ActionDan on April 29, 2014, 05:17:58 PM
guys I'm going to play this again for the first time in months.  help me

13/10/12 cm.  success!

how do you share tangos O_O
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Post by: Raikaria on April 29, 2014, 07:43:37 PM
guys I'm going to play this again for the first time in months.  help me

13/10/12 cm.  success!

Join the club, I got the itch to play Ability Draft.

How do you go 20/5 [I think] as Gyro in a THREE VS FIVE?!. Ag's Eye of the Storm, Incap Bite, Shadow Blade and Homing Missile may be part of that, I just kept blasting people 1v1 or even 1v2.
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Post by: yuyukos on April 29, 2014, 10:41:12 PM
Time spent on Dota is meaningless compared to money spent on Dota.

Flight and hotel to TI4 all booked and confirmed. Wallet now as poor as a 5 ;_;
Salute for dedication :toot:.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 30, 2014, 12:42:45 AM
http://www.dota2.com/international/announcement/
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Post by: PX on April 30, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
Singu stronk!
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Post by: Bardiche on April 30, 2014, 01:35:03 AM
Opened Treasure of Sinister Arcanery, got Clock Master set immediately. Aeuaheuhaeuhe. Also Necrophos set, fuck Necrophos.
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Post by: yuyukos on April 30, 2014, 01:47:46 AM
In BurNing I trust my rares.
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Post by: Raikaria on April 30, 2014, 08:46:52 AM
Now it's time to play more Ability Draft with Less auto-win [Divided We Stand] and a buttload of abilities changed :V

Also:
 Fixed bug allowing Phoenix icon.png Phoenix to use Blade Mail to reflect it's full health of damage onto a killer during  Supernova

Things like this are why I play the mode without Pheonix.
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Post by: Zerviscos on April 30, 2014, 11:17:53 AM
The amount of Ursas and Huskars in games after this new patch is too high.
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Post by: Raikaria on April 30, 2014, 11:46:54 AM
The amount of Ursas and Huskars in games after this new patch is too high.

Another reason to play Ability Draft.

Also this was a great draft.

I get Alchemist, I'm 4th pick., firstpick Ravage because everyone else basically took carry ults like a PA taking Coup and Lifestealer taking Chemical Rage so I was like 'Nope, I'm not letting these two get into our team without a giant stun'. Our Tide [First pick] took Helix.

Someone starts spamming in voice chat, the only time he speaks 'Someone take Phantom Strike' over and over because he doesn't want PA getting it. It's the only blink in the entire pool and I have Ravage, and *somehow* the skill gets through to me so I snatch it up. Meanwhile our Bane takes Black Hole.

Then somehow I get Anchor Smash and Riptide on top of Ravage and Phantom Strike. My team puts me mid, and at level 3 after being bullied by an Enigma I just Phantom Strike onto him, hit him with -Armor and -Damage and laugh as he gets ripped apart by creeps as he tries to retaliate while I walk away. Then I just repeat the combo and outright kill him.

Game keeps going, I become a support/initiator/pusher with a Bloodstone to Riptide+Smash waves down, and I basically keep landing big Ravages and absolutely wrecking teamfights with Ravage into Smash and Riptide's - Armor so everyone else can clean up. Got to the point that instead of locking down the damage dealers the enemy would blow literally all of their C.C on me to stop me just wrecking them with debuffs and Anchor Spam.

Which didn't work, because everyone else by this point was really fed and just steamrolled them while I got focused and died.

Also there was an Axe with Infest on our team and I had Phantom Strike and Ravage, so more than a few Infest Bomb ganks were had, with our Tidehunter using Teleport for good measure.

That was funny.

I don't know I like playing heroes in different ways and using my wits to come up with a good item build for the hero and set I'm given.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on April 30, 2014, 02:43:13 PM
Feels bad man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRH4r1lMkRw).
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Post by: Raikaria on April 30, 2014, 06:39:27 PM
At least you didn't ulti him.
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Post by: Bardiche on April 30, 2014, 10:10:33 PM
So I have Necrophos Bundle, Rikimaru Bundle and the third non-Silencer bundle from the Treasure of Arcane Sinistry. If anyone knows anyone who'd want to trade a key (or maybe two!) for those three bundles altogether lemme know.
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Post by: Dorakyura on April 30, 2014, 10:24:09 PM
6.81 Meta (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_BF87vwdCQ)
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 01, 2014, 01:21:15 PM
4k a shit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULWB_GXXSXc).
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Post by: ActionDan on May 01, 2014, 11:05:06 PM
I'm annoyed steam isn't letting me update gdi.

steam is such a stinker.  updates on updates to update my update
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 03, 2014, 03:13:52 PM
Fuck my team (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Q0iU_Ab2E).
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Post by: Bio on May 03, 2014, 03:30:52 PM
You seem to be having problems with your team lately Dormio.
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Post by: yuyukos on May 03, 2014, 03:32:49 PM
Fuck my team (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Q0iU_Ab2E).
Not once, but twice. Truly, the skill level of 4k.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 03, 2014, 03:51:23 PM
lately
What.
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Post by: Bio on May 03, 2014, 04:10:53 PM
Ah sorry when I say lately the late is of your entire life.
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Post by: ActionDan on May 03, 2014, 04:12:40 PM
I am that lina
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 05, 2014, 09:15:39 PM
Support no buy ward gg no re (http://dotabuff.com/matches/645029990)

Lanes:
Radiant
Top: Rubick (me) and Windrunner (friend)
Mid: Morphling
Bot: Bristleback
Jungle: Tidehunter (wut)

Dire
Top: Mirana, Tiny, Vengeful Spirit
Mid: Ember Spirit
Bot: Silencer (lol)

I don't think their support ever got wards or something. We bulldozed right over them.
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Post by: DNAbc on May 06, 2014, 08:09:01 AM
i have no idea why would some captains be so afraid of ember spirit, hes only a threat unless he gets to like a daedalus and bfury that he can oneshot squishy supports yet hes still incredibly squishy himself. Sure he has mobility which can make him kind of annoying, but smart picks can entirely phase out his usefulness, the bans should be much better used on actually op and truly annoying heroes like death prophet and bristleback who can function optimally without even items.
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 06, 2014, 03:30:04 PM
Death prophet and bristleback don't function optimally without items at pro level???
and Ember Spirit can do all his stuff without any major threat to himself which is why he's dangerous. There's no risk to him.
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Post by: DNAbc on May 06, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
ember spirit is just a cockcroach who is helpless without flame charges of which he needs two to properly teamfight, and one to escape, his usefulness is greatly incapacitated by the lack of tankiness, proper stun and low damage output throughout the early and mid game.

iunno about dp and bb functioning on the pro level but i can safely say that no heroes without any items can function properly, dp and bb are just hit less hard on by the lack of items, similar to jakiro, due to the inherent power of their abilities which allow them to get by as a force in teamfights despite lacking in farm.
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Post by: Pesco on May 06, 2014, 05:20:04 PM
Lookit this guy that's never seen the work of a hard support. No kappa :V
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 06, 2014, 06:32:00 PM
I'm going to pretend I didn't read that, for the sake of my own sanity.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 06, 2014, 11:24:10 PM
ember spirit is just a cockcroach who is helpless without flame charges of which he needs two to properly teamfight, and one to escape
No. Do you even know how to play Ember Spirit?

his usefulness is greatly incapacitated by the lack of tankiness
No. Do you even know how to play Ember Spirit?

his usefulness is greatly incapacitated by the lack of proper stun
No. Do you even know how to play Ember Spirit?

low damage output throughout the early and mid game.
True, since he's been nerfed in the latest patch. But name me a carry type hero that does high damage output at all stages of the game and cannot be easily kited.

iunno about dp and bb functioning on the pro level but i can safely say that no heroes without any items can function properly,
True, to an extent.

dp and bb are just hit less hard on by the lack of items, similar to jakiro, due to the inherent power of their abilities which allow them to get by as a force in teamfights despite lacking in farm.
No.
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Post by: Bio on May 07, 2014, 04:58:17 AM
i hate it when im hiding in the trees and ember spirit just crit sleights me for massive damage and i have to waste regen where he didn't lose anything.
and other times im just taking a leisurely stroll and he just pops out of nowhere and throws bolas at me and roots me for a retardedly (now not so as much) long time.
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Post by: Raikaria on May 07, 2014, 10:11:01 AM
I remember watching a pro DotA game where they were pushed to their T3's on permament defense, and like 20k behind.

They stalled it out to like 75 mins and almost came back because Ember would just spam SoF with a Battle Fury and instantly clear the wave, while also dealing good harass damage at no risk to himself, which basically made it impossible to push high ground. They couldn't even Pipe against it because it's physical damage.

This EVENTUALLY led to their downfall, since only Ember had money because he was taking literally all the farm, but still, being able to hold off for like 40 mins on your own at no risk is stupid even to a DotA noob like myself.

[Ember dosen't exist in Ability Draft due to having 5 buttons. So thankfully I don't have to put up with Sleight of Fist]
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Post by: DNAbc on May 07, 2014, 05:18:32 PM
Okay, I understand to an extent that ESpirit is unstoppable when he gets alot of farm, but then again, so can carries like W K with rapiers and FV with everything. My issue with considering E Spirit as not a sufficiently troublesome enough carry to consider for bans and picking is because his growth curve is miserable. Think about it, before he gets a daedalus and/or b fury, all an ember can do is too sip his bottle and try to steal ganks gold, even though his contribution is minimal due to the unreliable intiate/escape mechanic that falls short when ganks happen frequently and the stun which is highly likely to miss in a creepwave. Moreover, when given many other alternative strats and lineups a team can take prevention against a ESpirit (ghost, silencer, necrobook, disarm) to somewhat impede his effectiveness in later teamfights, I personally just finds him less preferable compared with other carries such as Naga, or LS, or OD even, who has much higher utility even in the early.

Ultimately, I am just trying to bring up that yes, fully farmed E Spirit is great, but the sheer time and teamwork it takes to bring him up proper is outweighed by the skill and lineup depedent nature of Espirit carry and is generally less contributive to a game overall compared with carries who can command actual game presence like as soon as they have the ultimate. Without doubt, Esprit has alot of unique perks that does guranteed a sure win against the correct team with good items, but such specifics are hard to come by less you are in a professional environment, and even then the other team would still be actively trying to hinder your rampage and, arguably, is easier to do compared with stopping a WK or a FV stomp.

edit: yes dormio i played es before, he demands a nearly laborious detail to attention effort that you need to keep track of charges, ganks, tps, jungles and a pitiful mp pool coupled with runes to be successful and farm the items when it still matters. i cant stand that, sure you get a guranteed win if you do, but i play dota not for the button clicking challange
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 07, 2014, 05:28:53 PM
Wraith king is stupidly easily kited at all stages of the game and isn't run as a carry.
Faceless Void is strong yes.
Ember Spirit's growth curve starts off strong and remains strong for most of the game; with four sleight/bolas, he does an absurd amount of early damage with no risk to himself. He can also be run in both safelane and mid easily.
'Stealing gank's gold' is exactly what he and his team should be doing so that he finishes that 13 minute battle fury. You're really underestimating how fast pro's farm.
Necrobook and disarm do absolutely nothing to stop sleight; the invincibility let's him block the necrobook return damage and sleight forces him to attack through disarm. Ghost scepter is hard to farm for supports when you're getting picked off at 1000 range.

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Post by: DNAbc on May 07, 2014, 05:49:10 PM
when you bring pros into the equation they should be on both sides of the team such that they are equally matched, ember squishyness means any actions remotely aggro will cost him dearly or force a blink retreat. moreover, stunning ember spirit is easier than you may think with delayed stuns like torrent and split earth and cold feet and ice path and well alot of them actually. because as aforementioned, es is squishy and limited by charges, it takes a great deal of concern and care to not feed, which does make 13min bfuries a luxury especially for this hero.

i think i have agreed that with proper ganks and farm es can spin out of control and be unstoppable, but generally this only applies when you have a very well syncd team against the other who cannot parse proper the dangers of feeding. feeding sucks for anyone period, ember spirit benefits too, although much lesser to a degree due to his inherently hunger for better items like daedalus.

yeah i screwed up about the necrobook and disarm but any silences will take care of es, oh, diffusal costs 3300

but anyway i guess the biggest problem is how all supports are assumed to be morons who have to feed horridly when a es is in game. in a practical environment i believe you wouldnt just sit there and tremble in fear against a es in early who dies against a stun aa siege by your average ganker.

and es early power is completely overblown, his mp pool highyl restrains his harass power and bottling runes is surprisingly hard when you dont have the time to spend sitting next to the river every 2 minutes. i guess yeah just don't assume the other team sucks so the hero can be strong
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 07, 2014, 05:55:26 PM
Put a remnant in base and it's like you're ganking a Weaver! Then everything you put into ganking him is wasted; anything from three hero movements to smoke and ulties.

Diffusal=/Silence??? How does diffusal stop ember at all? He can easily just pop a remnant before you drain enough mana unless you somehow have like 8 PL illusions with diffusal two's on his face. Purge doesn't stop it. What are you arguing with diffusal??

I really don't want to argue this anymore especially since Ember already got nerfed and isn't top pick material anymore thanks to the sleight damage nerf, and especially because you keep making these really weird game mechanic mistakes. If you think he shouldn't have as much attention paid to him as pros do, then all the more power to you man. Pros could stand to learn something.
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Post by: DNAbc on May 07, 2014, 06:05:02 PM
I was arguing silences remove everything Espirit can do, and to counter that by himself Espirit needs a diffusal which costs him another 3300g farm. It was a weird way to put it but I was just trying to drive to the point that Espirit is essentially doomed once hes silenced, but I guess thats confusing more than helping.

The remnants base strat can work in theory, but with expiring timers and the need to actually survive the first wave of damage makes it mostly used to escape instead of 'tanking the first wave of stun to waste their effort'. Which is just Espirit losing farm time. This is especially why I remarked it takes alot of effort and resource management to farm, gank and escape effectively with such limitations.

I was just going imo and yes I did put it in a disrespectful way initially due to the surge of adrenaline after games going wrong  so I apologize here for insulting the pros and the hero, sorry.
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Post by: Dular on May 07, 2014, 06:26:28 PM
I'ma take a different approach.

Considering you got quite a few things wrong about Ember Spirit, is it possible that... Y'know, you just don't know all that much about him?  Like maybe you played him a few times and wonder why he's imba, he doesn't seem all that imba.  But professionals play him and win as him.  Also keep in mind that we do not farm like professionals.

In a typical 3000 ranked match, an ember spirit might get a battlefury at around 20 minutes, maybe 25 if he isn't having a good time.  16 minutes if he is having a good time.  Remember, the average person can be ranked around 3000.  A professional can get a battlefury usually at around 13 minutes, 15-17 minutes if he is having a bad time.  Even at a professional's worst, he's still getting it faster than the best of an average person.  This is a massive difference, as it can mean the difference between two-shotting supports.

With respect to his bolas, a lot of people can't combo them with Sleight of fist since the window is .2 seconds.  Heck I can't even get it to work half the time, because I'm just a scrubnoob.  Professionals will do it every time, giving a near 1000 ranged pseudo stun 100% of the time.  What makes it scary is his sleight of fist.  You see, in the carry lane if you go near the creeps, he's going to sleight of fist you, and that's not something you want to done to you, so you have to stay a bit ways away, and that's how he gets you with the bolas.  Then it's just like "Whelp."  So you can either stay near the creeps and get put into a danger zone, or stay far away and get put into a danger zone. 

In a mid, a roamer is definitely going to jump on that opportunity to get easy kills with an ember.  Alternatively, if there are creeps around, you can't just stick out a 2v1 gank in mid.  You HAVE to run or else you're just going to die, and then Ember can just bola you because you had to run away from creeps.  This is assuming that both teams are competent as well.


And yes, silence is indeed THE best counter to Ember.  There is no doubt about it.  Of course, anyone with half a brain will notice "Oh, the enemy is building 4 silences, I think I'll just get a BKB."  Except a lot of pros don't even have to do that, because their supports are just that competent.  A support is usually hovering around a farming Ember just to bail him out if they get near him.  In a non-pro scenario, a BKB is still good because now they don't really have any method of stopping you.  You set a spirit far away from the fight, BKB on, waltz around, then when it runs out you get out.  Your damage suffers a little, but the +80 damage from Sleight of Fist makes up for it.  As I said where pros don't really care too much about building BKB on him, it's because he can stay really far back from the fight and still fight.  He doesn't have to be in the thick of things, why would he?  He can just hit every enemy 1000 range away.


Ultimately, what is scary about Ember is not his killing potential, but his safety in doing so.  Lot of heroes have great killing potentially, many have even better killing potential.  But Faceless void has to blink in and ultimate.  If he misses someone, then they just do shenanigans and void is suddenly very sad.  Wraith King just swaggers in like a boss, and I love Wraith Kings that do that, but Wraith King has the massive problem of being very weak to slows and stuns.  He has to run up to someone and hit them, and if anything prevents him from doing that, then he doesn't do anything.  Sniper is somewhat related to Ember Spirit, but Sniper has no escape, whereas Ember does.  Gyrocopter is also similar to Ember in that he can hit all his opponents, 6 times even, but that's centered on him.  Gyro depends more on his allies to get a good teamfight ultimate off before Gyro can clean up.  Ember doesn't need it, but he certainly likes it.  All carries like when a big teamfight ult lands for them, but only a few can capitalize on it like Gyro.  Gyro has to be in the thick of things otherwise, Ember does not.  As a result, Gyro can be easily focused down simply because he has to be in the thick of things.

I could keep going, but you get the idea.  It's the combo of his safety and high damage output is what makes him scary.  This is why Morphling dominated TI2 and Anti-Mage is such a pest.  Shotgun morphling has huge safety and can blow up a person right away, Anti-Mage has a 5 second blink with spellshield making him laugh off magic, so he can just escape a lot of ganks anyways.  They give the highest returns for the lowest risk.

And that's why pro players love him.  Low risk, high yield.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 07, 2014, 09:08:26 PM
edit: yes dormio i played es before
Having played a hero does not mean that you understand how to play that hero.
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Post by: Raikaria on May 08, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
Well that was probobly one of my most simple, yet fun, ability drafts ever.

I'm Jakiro and have no clue what to take really. I take Ice Path first because it was one of the few stuns in the entire pool. Then I just say 'screw it I'm roleplaying' and take Breathe Fire and Macropyre. I'd have taken Twin Breath too, but scumbag enemy Warlock saw what I was doing and denied me it. So I took Fatal Bonds instead.

I actually was in a lane where I got to farm [The other guy was a SB with Dragon's Blood, Reactive Armor, Gravekeeper's Cloak and Nether Strike... so 3 tank passives and no ultimate], and got Ag's and Veil of Dischord and our Gyro's reaction to my Ag's ultimate [I had said 'They buffed Macropyre Ag's so let's see it in action'] was '0_o that's massive you should get a refresher Jakiro and burn their ENTIRE BASE.'

Fatal Bonds + Ag's Macropyre is kinda hilarious. Especially when they are forced to run along it instead of out of it by the rest of my team chasing them. And especially when you remember he creeps who got caught in Macro and Bonds are NOT smart enough to run out of it. Veil just made it even more hilarious. Got to the point that they started focusing me, but I had no qualms, I'd have already thrown my load when we initiated ANYWAY.

I was best dragon.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on May 09, 2014, 10:02:15 AM
I was best dragon.
Got a Match ID?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on May 10, 2014, 06:28:17 AM
http://www.dota2.com/international/compendium/

Waste 10 dollars again! Yey!
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Post by: Bio on May 10, 2014, 06:57:33 AM
What. Stretch goals?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on May 10, 2014, 07:03:57 AM
Yes. 2.5$ is added to the prize pool for every compendium bought.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 10, 2014, 07:04:18 AM
my 10bux :fail:
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Post by: Bio on May 10, 2014, 07:23:14 AM
I would like some chat emoticons for use.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on May 10, 2014, 10:37:47 AM
LOL New matchmaking
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Post by: Raikaria on May 10, 2014, 10:48:19 AM
Damnit it's time to play Doto for free stuff for the next 2 months. Time to spam ABILITY DRAFTU.

Muh 6 ?.

Also why does clicking 'buy now' take me to the spanish page?
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Post by: Pesco on May 10, 2014, 10:54:27 AM
my 10bux :fail:

my 50bux :fail:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 10, 2014, 11:37:50 AM
This game is too hard (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTHzkGJSE4M).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 10, 2014, 12:23:21 PM
This game is too hard (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTHzkGJSE4M).

Should have Double-Edged so the creeps would have denied you because you were then on 1 HP.
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Post by: Bardiche on May 10, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
11/0/11 Zeus. Zeus does not forgive. Zeus does not forget. And Zeus hits you from across the entire fucking map when you Send All: "lol 2 HP, GG, barely made it"
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 10, 2014, 03:18:26 PM
We should all strive to come up with new and innovative ward spots (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5I7VyMcYA).
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Post by: Dular on May 10, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
Compendium has levels now?!  I NEED ALL OF THE LEVELS! (http://i.imgur.com/bhRQKEz.png)
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Post by: Raikaria on May 10, 2014, 07:13:35 PM
Compendium has levels now?!  I NEED ALL OF THE LEVELS! (http://i.imgur.com/bhRQKEz.png)

Is that yours or is that a screenshot from a forum or something?

Also - 'Our economists pleaded with us to never let Battle Point Boosters get this big'

I laughed.

Although it does seem bugged. I'm certainly not getting a 210% boost.
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Post by: Dorakyura on May 10, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
Compendium has levels now?!  I NEED ALL OF THE LEVELS! (http://i.imgur.com/bhRQKEz.png)

w00t lvl 698, who used like $50 on that :V
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Post by: Dular on May 11, 2014, 02:40:14 AM
w00t lvl 698, who used like $50 on that :V

To straight up buy 100 levels, it takes about 40$.  Just so you know.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 11, 2014, 05:22:07 AM
Professional farming (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjVan4QiGSU).
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Post by: Zerviscos on May 11, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
To straight up buy 100 levels, it takes about 40$.  Just so you know.
Bragging rights.

Let those people know how friggin' rich you are IRL and are ready to spend actual money on digital items.
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Post by: bryceanater on May 11, 2014, 03:54:39 PM
Hi, first time poster, plan to be a regular touhou poster after this post, I just wanna say I have a bunch of Dota and Touhou crossover art archived on my pixiv here: http://www.pixiv.net/member.php\?id=6752313
There is more to come! And no I do not take credit for any of this art, the page is meant to archive these pictures, and yes I do have permission from the original authors.   :V
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 11, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
Bragging rights.

Let those people know how friggin' rich you are IRL and are ready to spend actual money on digital items.

Or you don't really have anything in real life you buy with your loose money.
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Post by: yuyukos on May 12, 2014, 12:39:07 AM
Shun the non purple people.
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Post by: PX on May 12, 2014, 01:03:26 AM
Down with the whites!
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Post by: Dorakyura on May 12, 2014, 08:10:32 AM
Or you don't really have anything in real life you buy with your loose money.

That, but I'm Swabian (niggardly  :derp:) but dude, 700, how much money is that, you could buy a TI4 ticket  :V
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on May 12, 2014, 08:48:40 AM
1v1 me irl i show you who the true white is

i smack you across the map with 5 different currencies
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Post by: Raikaria on May 12, 2014, 11:15:16 AM
Why is it every ability draft game where I am Jakiro is glorious stuns with Macropyre? Seriously this time was Unstable Concoction+Ice Path + Light Strike Array. I could literally permastun people once I got my Eul's. [Or at least get 2 LSA and Ice Paths, Tinker died before I get any more] And yes I rushed Eul's because I could use it to set up Ice Path/LSA rather than rely on Unstable. Not to mention it can just be used while chargeing unstable.

You know you're effective when the Void Chronospheres and runs right for you as a support rather than someone more dangerous.

And why do I KEEP GETTING JAKIRO?

Also is it bad that if someone abandons, because I actually want to play a game, not a 4v5 stomp, that I just leave even if the leaver was on the enemy team? I find no fun in a 4v5.
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Post by: PX on May 12, 2014, 05:10:30 PM
"You know you're effective when the Void Chronospheres and runs right for you as a support"

Void playing correctly
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 12, 2014, 05:20:45 PM
Th-that's what void does anyway.
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Post by: Raikaria on May 12, 2014, 06:06:55 PM
You know I'm bad at Doto when Voids usually run right at the carry in Chronosphere.

Remember I play in the DEEEEEP trenches.
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 12, 2014, 07:01:17 PM
You know you're bad at dota when you still think there is a trench. It never gets better, don't fool yourself.
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Post by: Raikaria on May 12, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
No, it gets better than having huge problems getting an actual game that's not a 4v5 within 15 mins.

Or no wards ever.

Or no courier half the time

Or people who are clearly supports farming as much as they can.

Or no-one ever carrying a TP or buying detection.

Or Broodmothers who think taking Return, Reactive Armor and Double Edge is a good idea with their 17 strength.

Maybe you are never out of the trench. But I'm so low in the trench I come out the other side of the world.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 13, 2014, 12:21:47 AM
I say this as someone who plays at 4k+ with super bad friends.

No, it gets better than having huge problems getting an actual game that's not a 4v5 within 15 mins.
Normal.

Or no wards ever.
What the fuck are wards?

Or no courier half the time
30 minute walking courier professional timing.

Or people who are clearly supports farming as much as they can.
Supports aren't meant to take last hits and kills?

Or no-one ever carrying a TP or buying detection.
What the fuck is TP rotation or dust?

Or Broodmothers who think taking Return, Reactive Armor and Double Edge is a good idea with their 17 strength.
I don't play AD.

Maybe you are never out of the trench. But I'm so low in the trench I come out the other side of the world.
You can never escape the trench.
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Post by: PX on May 13, 2014, 01:00:53 AM
I wish the shit at my level would abandon, gives me a legit reason to report them (doesn't mean I don't)
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Post by: Dular on May 13, 2014, 01:39:42 AM
In games where Dormio is my support, Dormio routinely has higher CS than me :V
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 13, 2014, 01:47:57 AM
DotA has had abandon issues since WC3 and low priority is a laughable attempt to fix that. There's no trench. There's just whining that the trench exists and a misguided hope that at some point people will magically start getting all the support items and crap for you.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 13, 2014, 02:08:50 AM
Mini Pudge unlocked wtf.
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Post by: Bio on May 13, 2014, 05:37:15 AM
The International is pretty much self sustaining at this point.
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 13, 2014, 06:18:02 AM
Fans have put in more money than Valve did. And Valve gets three times whatever was funded, so they're sitting on at least a fat ~4.2ish million in their pocket right now.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 13, 2014, 06:26:38 AM
Fans have put in more money than Valve did. And Valve gets three times whatever was funded, so they're sitting on at least a fat ~4.2ish million in their pocket right now.
Do you even maths, bro?
It's getting closer to $7.5m for Valve right now.
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on May 13, 2014, 09:00:22 AM
>97k USD spike in the prize pool last night

>YJ bought Compendiums for people

>YJ's compendium was level 97 after purchasing

Coincidence???
I think not

edit: I'll be celebrating my (late) birthday with friends on the 16tg watching Godzilla, and when I reach home I'll be opening boxes; AKA FREE STUFF as per normal just trade me when I'm online. One set or 1-3 mythical(s) per person depending on how i feel towards you
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Post by: DNAbc on May 13, 2014, 12:10:42 PM
tbh how I used to dealt with low priority was to shower the stubborn supports/carries with praises and encouragement, and advertise every successful gank like mad to boost morale. This still worked for me to amp up my MMR from 2800 to the present 3200 in about two weeks.


Puking insults in other's face generally suck even though you are totally in the right and they screwed up every single clash, the pressure would either make the likely 12 year old kid behind the hero throw a tantrum or suck even more due to stress. I think we all play 2 win, leave the debates IRL

edit: man YJ just how rich are you
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on May 13, 2014, 12:41:01 PM
tbh how I used to dealt with low priority was to shower the stubborn supports/carries with praises and encouragement, and advertise every successful gank like mad to boost morale. This still worked for me to amp up my MMR from 2800 to the present 3200 in about two weeks.

Don't you have a year of low priority how did you even get that I don't understand
3200 MMR isn't a lot tbh but good improvement from 2800! I don't even play ranked matches because in the SEA server for ranked if you aren't around 4.2k or something there is going to be a lot of suffering.

Puking insults in other's face generally suck even though you are totally in the right and they screwed up every single clash, the pressure would either make the likely 12 year old kid behind the hero throw a tantrum or suck even more due to stress. I think we all play 2 win, leave the debates IRL

1v1 me irl noob i show you who the true scrub is

edit: man YJ just how rich are you

Rich enough to join the super secret MotK 1% club
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Post by: Raikaria on May 13, 2014, 12:47:51 PM
DotA has had abandon issues since WC3 and low priority is a laughable attempt to fix that. There's no trench. There's just whining that the trench exists and a misguided hope that at some point people will magically start getting all the support items and crap for you.

But I'm usually the support.

It's just the 10% of the time I decide to make my actual ability to lasthit more than 1 in 10 creeps like most people at my level useful that the support stuff happens.

I mean I guess I ask for it half the time by playing AD, but if I wanted to play regular non AD games... I'd play Leauge. More fun and you don't have 20 mins of helplessness as the enemy team proceeds to do everything EXCEPT end the game when they are ahead, and comeback potential in DotA is generally a lot less, since you lose gold on death so the snowball grows twice as quick, say nothing of racks not respawning.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I would play more DotA if you could surrender, be it when a Racks [or two] goes down, beyond a certain time, or when the gold difference surpasses something stupid like 15k. I mean, seriously, adding 5 mins of hopelessness onto every game because of fountaincamping alone isn't fun, and I'm SURE it drives away a lot of new players.

===

600 GPM Dazzle mid is good right?
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 13, 2014, 06:07:50 PM
People surrendering at 15 minutes because of a half-justified notion that there's no way they can come back from a deficit drives people away from League. Works both ways. Sorry if you don't like the game you're posting in the thread about!
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Post by: Raikaria on May 13, 2014, 06:15:52 PM
People surrendering at 15 minutes because of a half-justified notion that there's no way they can come back from a deficit drives people away from League. Works both ways. Sorry if you don't like the game you're posting in the thread about!

I'm allowed to have things which I like and things which I do not like. I play both games. I prefer some things in DotA and some things in Leauge.

And that's why I gave other alternatives. [Like the 15k gold lead or something]
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Post by: Amraphenson on May 13, 2014, 06:17:29 PM
You are, never said you weren't. But I don't think and won't ever think a surrender option fits DotA's style; people have come back from worse. Way worse.
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Post by: Raikaria on May 13, 2014, 08:01:41 PM
And the other 99% of the time people have to suffer as the enemy team do everything in theior power to not end the game, and waste everyone's time fountaincamping.

I mean a 'Big Comeback' in competitive is seen as a 10k deficit. If I recall the last compendium had a vote for how many there were. The options were not high, and the amount was not high. So 15k? In pubs? I think that's a reasonable point to allow people to throw in the towel if the entire team agrees.
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Post by: PX on May 14, 2014, 12:22:39 AM
I hope you realize that pubs are a lot more capable of throwing big leads than pros because the pros are less prone to mistakes. I'm sure we've thrown away 20k leads before
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Post by: Raikaria on May 14, 2014, 01:42:57 AM
I hope you realize that pubs are a lot more capable of throwing big leads than pros because the pros are less prone to mistakes. I'm sure we've thrown away 20k leads before

I hope you realize pubs are a lot less co-ordinated to be able to make the plays to be able to make said comebacks.

Works both ways.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 14, 2014, 02:13:09 AM
Not making a mistake is much harder than capitalizing on a mistake that somebody else made.
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Post by: yuyukos on May 14, 2014, 02:29:42 AM
I watched Liquid tactically throw a 20k lead just an hour ago now.
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on May 14, 2014, 02:38:58 AM
I threw away a 15k lead
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Post by: Raikaria on May 14, 2014, 02:52:14 AM
I watched Liquid tactically throw a 20k lead just an hour ago now.

Same.

Rapier Doto.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on May 14, 2014, 03:06:39 AM
Same.

Rapier Doto.
More like force old teammates into a tiebreaker doto. Radiance MoM tree, dat pub style.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 14, 2014, 09:56:30 AM
I love playing against bads (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfDQEIWHT2M).
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Post by: PX on May 15, 2014, 04:56:59 AM
I have made a fantasy league!

ID: 35055
PW: motk

Draft is in 47 hours and 30 minutes, or 2 days minus 30 minutes
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 15, 2014, 08:15:38 AM
>Play game
>Rat doto

>Play game
>Rat doto

>Play game
>Rat doto

What the fuck.
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Post by: yuyukos on May 15, 2014, 11:21:25 AM
>Play game
>Rat doto

>Play game
>Rat doto

>Play game
>Rat doto

What the fuck.
Welcome to doto, enjoy your stay.
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Post by: Raikaria on May 15, 2014, 11:47:10 AM
>Play game
>Rat doto

>Play game
>Rat doto

>Play game
>Rat doto

What the fuck.

Reason #134 to play AD. Rat Doto is rare there because Rat sets are rare.

Except on the rare occasion I'm allowed to go full Rat Doto. And I will. Because I'm evil.

Also I saw someone with a Lv 257 Compendium
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Post by: Bardiche on May 15, 2014, 01:36:05 PM
Welcome to doto, enjoy your stay.

I'm mostly annoyed because it's such a good strategy, however cowardly it may be.
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Post by: Suikama on May 15, 2014, 06:26:12 PM
Welcome to DIGITAL SPORTS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzxh1ubAoko)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 15, 2014, 09:12:46 PM
'1v1 me bro' mode has been reached.

Valve's gonna have to come up with new goals at this rate...

Edit:


(http://i.imgur.com/IUw9T5T.png)

Oh god I've never stomped this hard ever.

I was 4th pick Radient and somehow Duel got all the way to me. Then I got Mortal Strike [How did that get through to Round 2? People usually snap that up because OMG I HAVE CRIT I'M A CARRY I FARM NOT YOU], followed by Enchant and then Overwhelming Odds [Which so many people under-rate, it's a brilliant nuke and chase move]

I jungled early, got 2 or 3 early kills with a Centaur, teleported top as top got dived for a Double Kill, and then I hit Level 6 and started going completely out of control. I think I almost had 200 extra damage from duel by the end of the game. Said 'going out of contol' involved teleporting to the bottom side of the map almost as soon as my TP came up. Always carry a TP.


Apparently if you give LC a slow she suddenly becomes complete godmode. There was seriously no escape at all fromk Blink, Odds's speed and Enchant.

Also Generic Trench level CS's when the ganking jungler has more than everyone else except the Windranger who tried desperately to rat when all else was lost.

Oh, and I kinda got CM out of control too. Can't recall what she had except Glimpse and Frostbite. [Edit: She had Reincarnation as her ultimate]
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Post by: yuyukos on May 15, 2014, 11:50:08 PM
I'm mostly annoyed because it's such a good strategy, however cowardly it may be.
I'm of the same feeling, it's quite irritating when you know you're getting ratted out and your options are few to none. Whatever it takes to win, though.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on May 16, 2014, 08:22:46 AM
I have made a fantasy league!

ID: 35055
PW: motk

Draft is in 47 hours and 30 minutes, or 2 days minus 30 minutes

how does that work anyway
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 16, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
I'm of the same feeling, it's quite irritating when you know you're getting ratted out and your options are few to none. Whatever it takes to win, though.

Rat is irritateing, yes. But the thing about Rat is that if they are behind in the first place you just shove down mid lane and force. One rat can't outpush a team of 5. And if you are far enough behind you can't win 4v5 while Furion or whoever rats it up, you have other problems.

Rat loses to strong teamfights and initiators. Something like a Blink Dagger Tidehunter dumps all over rat tactics. Initiate, kill them all, 1~2 TP back to stop Furion.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 16, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
That fucking cast (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B51VowiidZE).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 16, 2014, 07:07:51 PM
People really need to realise how powerful Naga Net is. I always end up with it if it's in the pool and I always dominate with it's set-up potential and ability to disable a carry for 5 seconds, that goes through BKB's.

Bonus points for having Mass Serpent Ward with it this time as well. Easy Wardtraps, easy life.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Kiro on May 17, 2014, 01:46:45 AM
Gonna be chilling with Pesco-bro at TI4!

Now I gotta follow the scene some more.

Do I need to have a certain level Compendium to get goodies while at TI4?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on May 17, 2014, 07:17:25 AM
All of the stretch goals are given to all compendium owners; leveling it simply gives you the purple cosmetic effects to your tp/fountainheal/bottle/blink/etc., a better battle bonus, and more Immortal Treasures.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 17, 2014, 07:41:46 AM
All of the stretch goals are given to all compendium owners; leveling it simply gives you the purple cosmetic effects to your tp/fountainheal/bottle/blink/etc., a better battle bonus, and more Immortal Treasures.

And Parrot Courier.

And alternate Mini-Pudge Skin.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on May 18, 2014, 02:19:14 AM
EU Hub, more interesting than actually casted games.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 18, 2014, 02:24:34 AM
How the fuck are these people official casters? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcGN3C-9IhE)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 18, 2014, 01:41:03 PM
Just gotta win with Meepo now to complete the 10 Hero Challenge.

...

fml
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 18, 2014, 02:57:05 PM
Just gotta win with Meepo now to complete the 10 Hero Challenge.

...

fml

Have you used your re-roll?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 18, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
Have you used your re-roll?

Yes, to swap in Visage for Meepo. :getdown:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on May 18, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Yes, to swap in Visage for Meepo. :getdown:

You poor fuck.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 18, 2014, 11:21:03 PM
I would take Meepo and Visage over shit heroes like Morphling, Clinkz, and Jakiro any day.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 18, 2014, 11:29:04 PM
By the way I've decided that Drow is the worst hero possible in Ability Draft.

Her stats are so completely garbage she basically can't do anything without her ultimate. Cast? No INT. Take hits? No STR. Rightclick? No AGI.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 18, 2014, 11:43:56 PM
You poor fuck.

I got my win though! Got Aghanim, Assault Cuirass, Heart of Tarrasque and the Shotgun, just right-clicked most of the enemies and watched them melt to the onslaught.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on May 18, 2014, 11:56:15 PM
Volvo servers are so dumb
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 19, 2014, 12:08:59 AM
I hope when the time comes to swap out TA because she dosen't appear in Ability Draft; that I get someone who shows up in Ability Draft.

Or I guess I can just spam TA games until I win one.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 19, 2014, 06:10:09 AM
Scrub Ursa trying to steal my kill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Lb2gfLwWU).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on May 19, 2014, 09:10:45 AM
2 Heroes left in my 10 heroes to play: CK and Wisp, well, Wisp... Wisp!... fuck  :o
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 19, 2014, 11:33:16 AM
Could be worse, it could be Earth Spirit (http://dotabuff.com/heroes/winning)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on May 19, 2014, 05:47:36 PM
2 Heroes left in my 10 heroes to play: CK and Wisp, well, Wisp... Wisp!... fuck  :o

Please, I learned how to play Wisp
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 19, 2014, 08:35:23 PM
HOW TO WISP:

Tether ally, teLOLport to enemy, pray beg your ally gits gud.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 19, 2014, 10:34:21 PM
Micro Spirits for harass.

I'm not sure how hard spirit control is, I don't play Wisp.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on May 19, 2014, 11:06:06 PM
Keep them close to farm, otherwise extend as needed. They're on toggle anyways, so it's not that hard.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 20, 2014, 04:17:25 AM
$5.94m prizepool.
I wonder what the next stretch goals will be set at.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on May 20, 2014, 08:05:12 AM
HOW TO WISP:

Tether ally, teLOLport to enemy, pray beg your ally gits gud.

What happend sofar: I said I would like to TP, I pinged on the minimap, ally stands close to me to not break tether, suddenly I fuck up, they fuck up, enemy fucks up. Game is hard :V Though this is solo queue.

The people I play with play so shitty modes like "Random Draft" and Tryhard "Captains Draft". Who plays these modes, srsly  :derp:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Heian_Alien on May 20, 2014, 02:29:21 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/25zgl3/dota_2_update_main_client_may_19_2014/

Wow it took them only 20 days to fix the annoying Pudge bug making him OP (http://dotabuff.com/heroes/pudge/trends) as shit early!
Ever tried to manfight Pudge mid this patch and died horribly when you usually won?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on May 20, 2014, 05:19:19 PM
Clearly they need to make it 1.5 to balance :)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 20, 2014, 05:37:40 PM
This is how trench I am in:

Save Centaur from Alchemist by stunning Alchemist and Force-Staffing Centaur away.
A second later, Centaur Double-edges a creep wave, dies to the creeps due to being 1HP and dies, giving Alchemist the kill anyway. And no enemy was near him, so it wasn't like he thought he was denying himself. He didn't even have that as an excuse [A bad excuse too, since you can't self-deny with Double Edge]
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on May 20, 2014, 07:31:05 PM
He was probably farming and not expecting the creeps to hit him. People do that at every MMR. I did that. I saw someone else do that. And I'm at 4k.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 20, 2014, 08:21:00 PM
how do you shot mmr
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 20, 2014, 09:36:01 PM
He was probably farming and not expecting the creeps to hit him. People do that at every MMR. I did that. I saw someone else do that. And I'm at 4k.

He was the only thing anywhere near the wave except me.

He was already tanking the wave as he retreated.

He just... stopped and suicides. There wasn't anything else but him for the wave to aggro on.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 21, 2014, 01:25:04 PM
Maybe one day there will be some reprieve from the trench (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc6XH16HDkg).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 22, 2014, 10:29:28 PM
New stretch goals. Alternate voice and dialogue pack? I'm somehow not too excited, I like most voices. Maybe a new Lina though...
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 23, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
For those of you who have not checked the additional strech goals, it seems that there are a few... hidden ones, inbetween the larger gaps:

(http://i.imgur.com/dTGPKk6.jpg)

TECHIES ARE COMING.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on May 23, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
For those of you who have not checked the additional strech goals, it seems that there are a few... hidden ones, inbetween the larger gaps:

(http://i.imgur.com/dTGPKk6.jpg)

TECHIES ARE COMING.

After Half Life 3 comes out
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on May 23, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
After Half Life 3 comes out

But didn't you read the news? HL3 also confirmed!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on May 24, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
I have a TI4 general admission ticket for sale at the non-scalped price. All you have to do is get yourself to Seattle on the due date for the event. You hand over cash, I give you the ticket. All done in person.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: DNAbc on May 24, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
is this not a tewi prank
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 26, 2014, 04:49:33 AM
Our entire team was playing like trash so our sixth member, Clockwerk, had to pick up the slack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzvzilk4Zf8).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on May 26, 2014, 05:25:07 AM
I hope I get to enjoy all the fun maps I experienced in warcraft III once again. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5g6lpEEuII)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on May 26, 2014, 05:44:37 AM
Or you can just play WC3 :V
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on May 26, 2014, 05:53:06 AM
For a second, I thought I saw warlock arena. :O
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 26, 2014, 07:36:45 AM
4k carries man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFYwfAgoQWA).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on May 26, 2014, 10:32:54 AM
The irony when googling during boredom:

(http://i59.tinypic.com/15ppxjm.jpg)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 26, 2014, 10:48:29 AM
4k carries man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFYwfAgoQWA).

Blink Snipar 2 gud

Never seen Blink Sniper myself.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on May 27, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
4k carries man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFYwfAgoQWA).
This really seems like material for DotaCinema's fails of the week
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on May 27, 2014, 09:04:31 PM
3k MMR scrub reporting in. Ranked Games, more like Play Support.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 27, 2014, 09:42:17 PM
Public Service Announcement:

When you win a teamfight, and you have 0 Agi heroes and the enemy team has 3, you should push.

You should not just run off and farm the jungle so they can hit lategame and autowin.

2nd Public Service Announcement:

Saying '2/11 shouldn't talk' to a Crystal Maiden who has 32 assists kinda falls on flat ears.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on May 28, 2014, 09:10:48 AM
Everytime I play Io, everyone in my team, even when playing with friends, seems to go into retard mode  :V
I don't get it.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on May 31, 2014, 07:49:48 AM
Somehow we didn't fuck this up (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvCdls9wwZI)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on May 31, 2014, 07:59:24 AM
Immortals!

I got the Puck Tail [ew, Puck isn't in AD], the Sniper Gun and the DP Skirt. [I play DP outside of Ad a fair bit so yay]

About 70 more points and I get another treasure.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 01, 2014, 12:12:17 AM
Immortals!

I got the Puck Tail [ew, Puck isn't in AD], the Sniper Gun and the DP Skirt. [I play DP outside of Ad a fair bit so yay]

About 70 more points and I get another treasure.

For some reason my Puck immortal has no kinetic gem, is yours the same?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 01, 2014, 07:28:59 AM
For some reason my Puck immortal has no kinetic gem, is yours the same?

Yep, no gem. It seems the puck immortal dosen't get one.

Also I saw someone get a player card drop. Get collectin!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 01, 2014, 07:40:50 AM
Anyone want to trade the Windrunner cape (Any Gem) for my Tinker boots (Rearms cast)?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 01, 2014, 12:38:29 PM
So I just realised I got the DK Immortal. Aeuhaeuhaehae. I... don't actually like playing DK but maybe I should start, it doesn't look bad.

Kinda bummed there's no Zeus or Rubick immortal, I like those heroes more.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 01, 2014, 12:58:26 PM
So I just realised I got the DK Immortal. Aeuhaeuhaehae. I... don't actually like playing DK but maybe I should start, it doesn't look bad.

Kinda bummed there's no Zeus or Rubick immortal, I like those heroes more.

Rubick has a metric buttload of items anyway.

That said, so does Axe.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 01, 2014, 01:07:33 PM
Team is mongoloid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dynNZwAzRw).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: trancehime on June 01, 2014, 01:33:19 PM
Yep, no gem. It seems the puck immortal dosen't get one.

Some immortals have their animation attached to the item and not any gem.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on June 02, 2014, 02:50:22 AM
just realized you have to request hereos
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on June 02, 2014, 03:31:26 AM
my heros are awesome though.

Witch Doctor
Elder Titan
Lesh
Dazzle
Medusa
Silencer
Centaur
Orge
Tide
Disrupter
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 02, 2014, 09:16:49 PM
Holy shit, balance changes just before the International's real matches begin?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 02, 2014, 09:25:10 PM
It's still like, 45 days until TI.

That is hardly 'just before'.

If anything fixing the balance issues shown with this patch is needed. Like nerfing Mirana so she's not 100% pick/ban, and nerfing Moj.

Although some of these changes are scary/big, like the Omnislash buff; and Batrider's jungle basically being butchered. Then you get the things that might not make a hero as a whole more viable, but really hit AD. Like Walrus Punch's cooldown, when it can be on ranged heroes.

Also since Mirana's arrow's base stun is lower and stun is a linear scale, Mirana's arrow has to travel further to max stun I think.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 02, 2014, 10:08:45 PM
It's still like, 45 days until TI.

That is hardly 'just before'.
I thought it was more like, 21 days.

Daily Hero: Nightstalker

I have no idea how to play this hero. I can't seem to be able to solo gank things even early during the night, and my team mates are very particular that I'm not the initiator, so if I go in, they won't. And they never initiate.

Suffering. I wish Valve would just let me play support heroes all the time.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on June 03, 2014, 01:00:36 AM
Daily hero challenge is all about making you play the heroes you don't play all the time
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 03, 2014, 08:36:13 AM
I'm probobly gonna mostly ignore the Daily Challenge because I'm an AD player :/
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dr Rawr on June 03, 2014, 07:41:20 PM
Dormio if you still need those tinker boots pm me on steam later today. Tinker has to many buttons for me to press :(
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 03, 2014, 11:16:29 PM
Er, I need the windrunner cape.
I have two sets of tinker boots which is why I'm looking to trade one.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on June 04, 2014, 08:23:57 AM
Er, I need the windrunner cape.
I have two sets of tinker boots which is why I'm looking to trade one.

How did that happen, you're not supposed to get duplicates  :V
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 04, 2014, 08:29:43 AM
I'm just that good.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 04, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
Well Rawr traded Tinker Boots to Dormio I think and traded items don't count towards 'No Dupes' [Same as if you trade away it dosen't un-dupe it]
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 04, 2014, 08:34:57 AM
Rawr still has his Tinker boots.
Why would I want to trade for a third set of Tinker boots?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on June 04, 2014, 11:46:10 AM
Why would I want to trade for a third set of Tinker boots?
For your third leg?  :derp:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 04, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
Rawr still has his Tinker boots.
Why would I want to trade for a third set of Tinker boots?

Trade Tinker Boots for Tinker Boots!!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 07, 2014, 06:24:49 AM
This is how all Lions farm when they are top 1% (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu5KldEuOok).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 07, 2014, 06:35:14 AM
And this is how you're meant to get lane control when you are top 1% (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmz2KrLFxZs).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 07, 2014, 12:07:57 PM
Axe immortal get.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on June 07, 2014, 09:46:59 PM
Napalm may be broken (http://dotabuff.com/matches/706425800)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ZoroPK on June 09, 2014, 09:12:23 PM
Tinker has apparently been picked in 71% more games than before 6.81b... I have a feeling he's going to become the new 6.79 Earth Spirit. Could probably get to 5k+ if I had the motivation to pick him every game.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on June 10, 2014, 12:30:44 AM
Tinker has apparently been picked in 71% more games than before 6.81b... I have a feeling he's going to become the new 6.79 Earth Spirit. Could probably get to 5k+ if I had the motivation to pick him every game.

That's because of the new Tinker Boots that gives him a special TP animation :V
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 16, 2014, 01:24:17 AM
Accepting all challengers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfI1p3w9x7k).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on June 16, 2014, 01:13:35 PM
You could probably submit that to dota watafak or as a bonus clip for top plays weekly
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 16, 2014, 03:49:48 PM
Or Fails of the Week.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 16, 2014, 03:50:27 PM
>Every 10 levels, you get an Immortal Box
>Reach level 50, no Immortal Box

I was lied to.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on June 16, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
>Every 10 levels, you get an Immortal Box
>Reach level 50, no Immortal Box

I was lied to.

When you reached LVL 100, every 10 level is an immortal box.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: bryceanater on June 18, 2014, 02:52:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPEKeedJXV8
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 21, 2014, 08:04:10 AM
[09:58:30] <PX> Did you guys see the stats
[09:58:40] <PX> When we found out Dotabuff can now sort Dire/Radiant Games?
[09:58:44] <PX> We looked at Dormio's games
[09:58:48] <FFMaster> nope
[09:58:51] <PX> He has almost 2/3rd of his games as dire
[09:58:56] <FFMaster> lol
[09:58:57] <PX> So when we say we're always dire, it's true
[09:58:57] <PX> :V
[09:59:11] <Helepolis> Radiant for me is 52% wr and  Dire = 48%     496 times dire vs  353 radiant
[09:59:14] <Helepolis> I confirm PX's theory
[09:59:20] <Helepolis> we're always fucking Dire.
[09:59:45] <Helepolis> FFMaster: Faction   Matches   Win Rate
[09:59:45] <Helepolis> Dire   157
[09:59:45] <Helepolis>    61.15%
[09:59:45] <Helepolis> Radiant   98
[09:59:45] <Helepolis>    45.92%
[09:59:57] <FFMaster> huh.............................
[09:59:58] <Helepolis> 157 times dire vs 98 radiant for you.
[10:00:03] <Helepolis> We're always fucking Dire.
[10:00:05] <PX> Dormio has
[10:00:09] <PX> 2051
[10:00:11] <PX> to 1044
[10:00:13] <PX> Dire to radiant
[10:00:14] <PX> So yeah
[10:00:21] <PX> Literally confirmed always dire
[10:00:41] <Helepolis> Faf:
[10:00:42] <PX> http://dotabuff.com/players/64990796
[10:00:44] <Keine-tan> Title: DOTABUFF - Dota 2 Stats - 도미오 - Overview (at dotabuff.com)
[10:00:45] <PX> Just look at this shit
[10:00:46] <Helepolis> Faction   Matches   Win Rate
[10:00:46] <Helepolis> Dire   726
[10:00:46] <Helepolis>    48.48%
[10:00:46] <Helepolis> Radiant   482
[10:00:46] <Helepolis>    52.90%
[10:00:54] <Helepolis> 726 vs 482   dire sentinal.
[10:00:58] <Helepolis> Confirmed Always Fucking Dire.
[10:01:01] <FFMaster> yeah, really
[10:01:05] <FFMaster> why are we all like this
[10:01:12] <FFMaster> there has to be people the other way
[10:01:17] <FFMaster> to balance it out
[10:01:18] <Helepolis> But who.
[10:01:25] <PX> Mfw I have 76% winrate on Wisp
[10:01:25] <PX> :\
[10:01:33] <Helepolis> We need to start comparing. I'll make a post on dota2 thread.


Yea so start posting your distribution of being on which side majority please. This is most extremely odd.

Just to repeat for my self again: Dire   496   vs Radiant   353
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 21, 2014, 08:14:10 AM
Radiant   Dire
10442051
Step it up, scrubs. (http://dotabuff.com/players/64990796)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Chaore on June 21, 2014, 08:30:39 AM
223 Radiant to 610 dire.

Most of radiant seems to be bot matches too.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on June 21, 2014, 11:15:40 AM
Radiant   668
52.99%
Dire   605
51.07%

Proradiant!

http://dotabuff.com/players/10868576
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 21, 2014, 11:44:34 AM
Dire - 158 - 41.14%
Radiant - 147 - 52.38%

Also I like how everyone else's games are listed as 'Very High Skill' and mine are 'Normal' :3

http://dotabuff.com/players/84153868

Of course a lot of these are Ability Draft games.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on June 21, 2014, 11:52:45 AM
Dire   432
Radiant   426

Literally the 50/50.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 21, 2014, 01:53:40 PM
Radiant 662
Dire 675

Dire bias
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on June 21, 2014, 02:36:32 PM
http://dotabuff.com/players/111310418

Dire: 703
Radiant: 583

:O

The bias probably comes from whenever I play with Dormio and co.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on June 21, 2014, 02:48:58 PM
check to see if you have an animal courier in your inventory in the items tab.

Confirmed rager.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 21, 2014, 02:54:13 PM
I realise occasionally it queues me into Very High Skill. pls DOTA why do you fucking do this, I'm only 3k!
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Post by: Raitaki on June 21, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
84 Dire vs. 77 Radiant. And I don't even play with you guys at all lately :V Though it's kinda interesting that my winrate for Dire is about 51%, while for Radiant is only about 46%.

http://dotabuff.com/players/83887801

And wow, I get occasionally matched into high skill games? Didn't think I was up for that. Probably my queue mates :V
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on June 21, 2014, 04:00:21 PM
887 Dire to 487 Radiant.

If you pay attention, about 2/3 of the time I'm on Dire.  I'm about as Dire bait as Dormio is.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on June 21, 2014, 04:11:51 PM
887 Dire to 487 Radiant.

If you pay attention, about 2/3 of the time I'm on Dire.  I'm about as Dire bait as Dormio is.

More like it's because of Dormio
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 21, 2014, 04:13:05 PM
And wow, I get occasionally matched into high skill games? Didn't think I was up for that. Probably my queue mates :V

I think that might be true (http://dotabuff.com/matches/694970589). People not being up for it, I mean. 22 kills with Riki in High Skill, I remember this game the enemy hardly had any detection. :s
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on June 21, 2014, 06:01:35 PM
847 dire 447 radiant
fucking dormio
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on June 21, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
I had a game of ARDM, well I guess I killed the purpose because I died once...

517 r - 703 d
Not so much
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on June 21, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Dire advantage? More like Dormio advantage it seems :V.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 21, 2014, 11:51:36 PM
check to see if you have an animal courier in your inventory in the items tab.

Confirmed rager.
I have a 100% winrate with both the Animal Courier and the Flying Courier.
Where is your rager now?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raitaki on June 22, 2014, 12:36:53 AM
Apparently I suck at gauging range in Dota 2. As TA I barely miss my W due to them being out of range, as Sand King I overestimated my blink+Q range, as Timbersaw I barely failed to reach trees, etc.

What do?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 22, 2014, 12:38:08 AM
Get better, scrub.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 22, 2014, 01:51:37 AM
Apparently I suck at gauging range in Dota 2. As TA I barely miss my W due to them being out of range, as Sand King I overestimated my blink+Q range, as Timbersaw I barely failed to reach trees, etc.

What do?

Develop awareness for range. EDIT: To be precise, just play the game more and you'll naturally develop a sense of how much range your shit has.

Some games don't belong in High Skill bracket. (http://dotabuff.com/matches/734310127) I landed like, two Black Holes on enemy team, rest on one or two enemies just to ensure a kill. Most of the other teamfights, Pudge already hooked someone, Bounty Hunter one-shot Sniper and Rubick would soon follow. Not much shit to use my Black Hole on.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on June 22, 2014, 02:19:39 AM
Not much shit to use my Black Hole on.

Lewd.

616 Dire - 430 Radiant

Our region distribution should also gives us an idea of who we queue with and how we do. Apparently the lack of Russians and Pinoys on South Africa server means my solo queues are slightly better.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 22, 2014, 02:25:16 AM
I dunno, apparently I have a 53% winrate on EU West, and there's a lot of Russians there.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on June 22, 2014, 02:27:49 AM
Maybe some of them are Ukranians :smug:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on June 22, 2014, 11:30:57 AM
Pls I need at least one more guy here with more radiant matches
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 22, 2014, 12:06:10 PM
Pls I need at least one more guy here with more radiant matches

Dormio is infectious.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 23, 2014, 08:11:08 AM
Doesn't makes sense though. I think I've played more games with Faf than with Dormio, yet I'm too much on Scourge. Though yesterday's -ad games were all on Sentinal somehow.

Also a theory, MOBA games on Sundays are extraordinary suffering. Not sure if you people experience the same. But Faf and I always encounter the most outstanding enemies/allies on Sundays, making every match a major pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 23, 2014, 08:20:32 AM
It's suffering on any day of the week.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 23, 2014, 08:57:04 AM
That too, life is suffering. Though lately I've been also playing LoL -aram for "daily wins". Sundays it is mere impossible to get it while other days it takes us max 2 games if shitty line up.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 23, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
I'm going to quote Ryuu from the LoL thread here.
"don't play ranked on x day" mentality is confirmation bias and basically horseshit
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 23, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
Ranked is for e-peen enlargement lovers. I don't play ranked, so Ryuu's claim is Faceless Void.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 23, 2014, 10:04:48 AM
It's about players being more or less shit on X day in general...
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on June 23, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
It's about players being more or less shit on X day in general...

jet lag is not my problem

Dire 632 - Radiant 470
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on June 24, 2014, 01:15:32 AM
I now have 2 owlion mounts.  If anyone wants to trade for it, hit me up
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raitaki on June 24, 2014, 05:04:55 PM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/739442982

How do I carry a game to the end when half my team is shit and nobody bothered to get detection against the carry buster totem crit tidehunter?
With that kind of kit why would you want to start building carry lategame Jug. god
Viper is a friend I'm never playing Dota 2 or LoL with ever again.

And we actually got their ancient down to like 30% except we didn't win because Sniper decided his hp was too low for this shit like a minute earlier and went off to farm THE MAGIC IMMUNE CAMP BY THE SECRET SHOP. ????????????????
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 24, 2014, 05:49:57 PM
I am highly amused by Tidehunter's items and skills

Also lol Bloodstone Juggernaught with only Arc lightning as a skill. Maybe if he would've taken Zeus' passive, (since nobody took it) there would have been a difference.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raitaki on June 24, 2014, 06:08:05 PM
I am highly amused by Tidehunter's items and skills
I did a similiar build once, except I didn't get as much farm (this Tidehunter was just so-so until he shutdown Sniper's massive kill streak and got the bonus gold from that), and I had Sven's ult. If Sven was in the pool that Tidehunter would have been hell.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 27, 2014, 12:44:08 AM
Need someone to give me the winning predictions, I don't know enough about E-sports.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 27, 2014, 07:42:59 AM
Need someone to give me the winning predictions, I don't know enough about E-sports.

This club.

Join it.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 27, 2014, 08:23:10 AM
Is there any news when we're going to get Ogre Magi skills for -ad :V or is that typically like Mappo being removed because it was extremely OP. Also lots of heroes are missing like Lanaya's, which I don't seem to get.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 27, 2014, 08:27:42 AM
Any heroes with a 5th or 6th ability are not in due to keybinding conflicts.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 27, 2014, 08:39:08 AM
Right, that explains also why Puck isn't in the game either and Lucifer. Like Techies, Valve will never fix but keep on creating dumb new chests.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 27, 2014, 10:08:32 AM
Techies has been confirmed as a post-TI release.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on June 27, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
Is there any news when we're going to get Ogre Magi skills for -ad :V or is that typically like Mappo being removed because it was extremely OP. Also lots of heroes are missing like Lanaya's, which I don't seem to get.

Yeah; any hero with 5+ skills or the ability to have 5+ skills won't work in AD because of the very system. Having Spell Steal for example on Jugg might be an issue when Jugg dosen't have a 5th button. And that's before considering people with 5 abilities to start with; like Beastmaster's Hawk and Boar.

Meepo is disabled because he completely broke the game mode. [Any hero with a nuke would instantly kill you; or C.C locks forever; oh; and they'd have Poof too because; you know; no-one else is gonna take it without DWS... so they have global presence and farming and ugh]

Terrorblade is disabled too for some reason; despite having 4 abilities. The only thing I can think of is because Sunder would break the game on a hero who doesn't have nonexistant HP and struggles to get it off before exploding.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on June 27, 2014, 11:35:37 AM
Terrorblade is disabled too for some reason; despite having 4 abilities. The only thing I can think of is because Sunder would break the game on a hero who doesn't have nonexistant HP and struggles to get it off before exploding.
Then you clearly aren't thinking enough.
The transformation ability, Metamorphosis, is a much more probable cause. Just look at Troll Warlord.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on June 27, 2014, 12:24:51 PM
I have no idea about the proscene lately since I stopped watching them after spring. What is currently popular picking hero (not just carries, also support/mid)?

Also I think I'm going to miss Internationals 4 due to my holiday in Turkey, orz.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on June 27, 2014, 12:35:54 PM
I have no idea about the proscene lately since I stopped watching them after spring. What is currently popular picking hero (not just carries, also support/mid)?

Also I think I'm going to miss Internationals 4 due to my holiday in Turkey, orz.
Mirana, every game, Mirana.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bio on June 27, 2014, 01:56:35 PM
When will the prize pool stop going up.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on June 30, 2014, 01:41:19 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/749457260

Picked OD immediately when I could, communicated I was going mid. Brown repicks, picks Pudge, goes mid, "cos I bought courier", actually tried bullying me out of mid as well. Everyone else is a shit and picked a hard carry. "High skill bracket" my fucking ass.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on July 03, 2014, 04:07:55 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/755049046
http://dotabuff.com/matches/755076899
http://dotabuff.com/matches/755114206

today sure was a great day to get weaver as my daily
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on July 03, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
Team was 2-19, enemy Drow feels overconfident and picks up a Rapier, and we haven't even lost a rax yet.  So of course we all jump her and give the rapier to our weaver.

We then won the game, riding on the rapier.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on July 03, 2014, 07:51:11 AM
Team was 2-19, enemy Drow feels overconfident and picks up a Rapier, and we haven't even lost a rax yet.  So of course we all jump her and give the rapier to our weaver.

We then won the game, riding on the rapier.

#RapierDoto

Also buying a Rapier on Drow of everyone is just moronic. Such softness; such immobility.

There are only a few select heroes that should ever go Rapier when stupidly ahead [Gyro; Kunnka, maybe a couple of others] because they can literally demolish whole teams instantly with it. Otherwise it's a desperation 'We lose anyway if we don't TRY this' thing.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on July 07, 2014, 10:24:34 PM
So I just laned against Chen Hard Lane.

Yeah. He didn't skill his E until level 9, when everyone was aboard the Slithice Pain Train. What the heck?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on July 08, 2014, 06:29:00 PM
TI4 hype.
Korean doto too strong, many rares were lost this day.  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on July 10, 2014, 06:39:56 AM
dat day 1
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on July 10, 2014, 10:24:51 AM
ee-sama please give mercy
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on July 10, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
I for one welcome our new Skywrath overlords.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on July 11, 2014, 07:32:18 AM
I find it really ironic that in DotA2; which has no public surrender option; most professional games end with a surrender way before the game is actually over.

While in LoL; which has a surrender option; surrenders in professional play are really; really rare.

I mean seriously; I've seen games where the GG was called before all the T2's were down... and most get called before or as the 1st Racks goes.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on July 11, 2014, 09:02:36 AM
Quote
I find it really ironic that in DotA2; which has no public surrender option; most professional games end with a surrender way before the game is actually over.

But they only call GG when it is over (Unless you're DeMoN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3RPzI_3TT8))
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on July 11, 2014, 10:14:08 AM
But they only call GG when it is over (Unless you're DeMoN (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3RPzI_3TT8))

The game being 'over' in some games before T2's have all fallen or Racks have fallen because teams know there is no way that they can come back [Because of how snowbally DotA is]

I just find it ironic that the surrendering in the professional scenes of the two main MOBA games on the market are the complete opposites to the game's stances on surrendering being available.

And yeah; that's not the only time EG's done that. Once when they wereabout to win and the enemy team wre all GG'ing [They all had to GG to trigger it before] all of EG GG'ed FIRST so they lost.

Ironically in that vid it seems EG has lost 2 racks already however.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dorakyura on July 11, 2014, 10:26:29 AM
That video was, before Valve implemented a message on the screen, where everyone in your team was able to cancel the surrender.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raitaki on July 11, 2014, 10:57:18 PM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/770967013

the true meaning of DEFENSE of the ancients
Abaddon distracting their team by forcing them to 4-5-man him. Rubrick stealing Forge Spirit and Demonic Conversion. AM megapush. Me counterpush lots and lots of vision.
Shit was hilarious.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on July 11, 2014, 11:41:33 PM
Dat Fnatic rapier throw
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Messiah on July 13, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
Been playing some matches recently, unsurprisingly I still suck :V
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on July 14, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
http://dotabuff.com/matches/770967013

the true meaning of DEFENSE of the ancients
Abaddon distracting their team by forcing them to 4-5-man him. Rubrick stealing Forge Spirit and Demonic Conversion. AM megapush. Me counterpush lots and lots of vision.
Shit was hilarious.

>No Aghanims on Abaddon
0/10 go back to low priority
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Post by: Pesco on July 18, 2014, 02:47:31 AM
[attach=1]

It's happening! SA/SEA/MotK/#dots-meido represent :V
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Post by: Amraphenson on July 18, 2014, 09:44:07 AM
TI4 will be on ESPN3 by the way.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Kiro on July 18, 2014, 03:35:35 PM
Encore Club
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on July 18, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
Gabe's gone grey.

And covered his face with hair.

He almost looks like Santa if he wore red. Makes sense with the Steam Sales.
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Post by: Kiro on July 18, 2014, 04:27:08 PM
Secret Shop line. Loops around the circular middle. Gonna be a long wait.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on July 18, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
Secret Shop line. Loops around the circular middle. Gonna be a long wait.
Get a courier to wait in line for you.

Watching at work, game 1 was crushing. This bodes well :V.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on July 18, 2014, 05:43:31 PM
12 min 45 racks.

15 min GG with the Leshrac having 600 net worth and being Level 4; and the Shadow Shaman; lowest Net Worth on Newbee higher than the enemy Doom.

That was a stomp.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Kiro on July 18, 2014, 07:10:20 PM
The line loops again outside! Yes, we are still in line and have been since about 8:45.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on July 19, 2014, 04:20:33 AM
Kiro, I need your paypal or something so I can giff you monies.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Prody on July 19, 2014, 04:38:03 AM
Are the merchandise containing codes to digital items like last year?

If there is, i'm kind of expecting them to sell more than the actual product itself on steam market... Capitalists are everywhere!
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Post by: Kiro on July 19, 2014, 04:50:24 PM
Are the merchandise containing codes to digital items like last year?

Yes. Most of them have codes.

Our haul was good yesterday but things like the mousepads sold out. Plus we waited in line for 5.5 hours. Today's line will probably be 3-4 hours. The suite tickets we got are fantastic, pretty much the 2nd floor balcony above the analyst desk. The 8 main event teams have their own private suites on the same floor so we see the players and personalities frequently and Pesco's getting signatures. The games are decent so far.
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Post by: Dular on July 20, 2014, 03:40:20 AM
That All-star match intro was hilarious.

Xboct brings all this smack talk, and the announcer says "Are you going to take that?!"

Rotk responds with "... Yes, I am.  My team is a bunch of feeder noobs."

Me and Infinity just kept laughing.
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Post by: Bardiche on July 21, 2014, 01:00:10 AM
Maybe it's just me, but a lot of the matches have had too much boring down-time so far. Maybe I need to spectate more or my taste is shit.
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Post by: yuyukos on July 21, 2014, 01:19:26 AM
It's pretty customary for teams to get small breaks between games. It's not like there was an hour or something between games.
GG RIP
EG
. Not terribly excited for Bo5 <20 min games tomorrow.
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Post by: Kiro on July 21, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
Wanted to say that on Saturday, the Secret Shop closed for over an hour so we ended up waiting as long as on Friday. Thats over 11 hours in line! So glad we didn't waste out entire Sunday in that line. The Techies hype in the arena was real. Those fireworks were loud and fitting.

On another note, here's my selfie of my QoP shirt and CM pint glass.
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on July 21, 2014, 08:27:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/E81Ymf9.png)

Infinity will determine who are people worthy enough to get these free items
From now on whenever I have rare giveaways I will give all of the to Infinity to distribute them

So that Dormio can't hog my entire inventory for once!
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Post by: Captain Infinity on July 21, 2014, 08:36:22 AM
I look forward to judging you all harshly for these items.

On another note, Pesco, Kiro and Bob you guys are doing amazingly staying in line that long. Have fun on that last day guys, and Kiro you are still one magnificent bastard for picking up that golden Tiny.
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on July 21, 2014, 08:40:56 AM
I look forward to judging you all harshly for these items.

On another note, Pesco, Kiro and Bob you guys are doing amazingly staying in line that long. Have fun on that last day guys, and Kiro you are still one magnificent bastard for picking up that golden Tiny.

^ I appreciate the Nyx shirt and the EE-sama sig you guys got for me okay
Pesco another beer on me ye
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Post by: PX on July 21, 2014, 08:47:50 AM
Quote
So that Dormio can't hog my entire inventory for once!

He's gonna find a way
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Post by: Raikaria on July 21, 2014, 09:24:59 AM
Well yeah; it's called annoy Infinity instead.

Honestly if you wanted to do a giveaway it should have been before he got internets back.
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on July 21, 2014, 09:51:24 AM
Well yeah; it's called annoy Infinity instead.

Honestly if you wanted to do a giveaway it should have been before he got internets back.

Why not you buy for me 7 volumes of Trinity Seven and 2 series of Light Novels and 4 PSVita games and I'll hold whatever giveaway whenever you want
I have something called priorities

lol u
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Post by: Pesco on July 21, 2014, 01:10:06 PM
Nyx shirts in your size are sold out. I can only give you the physical page on my notebook that EE signed. I can however give you Reisen's digital sig.
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Post by: Raikaria on July 21, 2014, 02:53:52 PM
We saw the future with the Techies in it.

This is the future we chose.
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Post by: Pesco on July 21, 2014, 02:57:52 PM
Btw Toby sat next to me for VG vs EG. Confirmed absolute racist.
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Post by: helvetica on July 21, 2014, 03:33:25 PM
EG that last game was heartbreaking :( especially after how amazing game 2 was.
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Post by: yuyukos on July 21, 2014, 04:48:02 PM
Btw Toby sat next to me for VG vs EG. Confirmed absolute racist.
Go on, I'm listening. ???
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Post by: wailofthebanshee on July 21, 2014, 05:06:37 PM
So I don't really play this game much, but I watched a few games of the international. Seemingly every time a team gets both DP and SS they win, because they can just plop down their R and stand still while the towers go down. I didn't think there could be a meta staler than league of legends.
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Post by: Bardiche on July 21, 2014, 05:24:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/E81Ymf9.png)

Infinity will determine who are people worthy enough to get these free items
From now on whenever I have rare giveaways I will give all of the to Infinity to distribute them

So that Dormio can't hog my entire inventory for once!

You should really open that chest.
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Post by: helvetica on July 21, 2014, 05:48:20 PM
So I don't really play this game much, but I watched a few games of the international. Seemingly every time a team gets both DP and SS they win, because they can just plop down their R and stand still while the towers go down. I didn't think there could be a meta staler than league of legends.

Obvious troll is obvious but just to answer your burning question DP has a lot of problems and is easily shut down. The ult is great for pushing towers when it's up but outside of that she doesn't bring much to the table other than an aoe silence. Rhasta is a very very strong support but he cannot carry teams, and is a liability in a lot of other ways (he's EXTREMELY squishy and prone to feeding, ask Dular about that).

Granted they're damn good ults, but there's a ton of pushers who can tear down towers just as quickly if not more quickly than DP/SS, who bring much better utility (or at least equivalent utility with less downsides) to the rest of the team. SS wards become less of a concern as the game drags on until he can farm aghs/refresher (if he can even reach that) and as a position 4/5 support that doesn't happen nearly as often as it sounds like. His hex is a hex and is great, but lion also has a hex and has a much better disable (earth spike vs shackles).

Rhasta only has a 52% win rate as well, showing even with a third highest overall pick, he's not much of a game changer (not enough to significantly affect game outcomes). Even with his top 3 overall pick, he was rarely banned and wasn't even close to contested. Compare this to Doom who was picked just as often (and banned 3x as much) and enjoys a 59.5% win rate when picked.  DP was almost never picked leading up to TI4 and even during it she's middle of the pack (getting picked and banned 30 and 47 times respectively). While her winrate is high when picked (56.67%), and success against her when banned is similarly high (55.32%), she was hardly even remotely a concern. The biggest reason was the large presence of heroes like Doom making her a risky pick to make, ruling out any necessity to ban her. There are much better options for mid/offlaners than DP who have the pushing ability of DP without the downsides of being flimsy as hell and tied to an ult that requires her to stand next to a tower.
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Post by: Suikama on July 21, 2014, 08:30:25 PM
those finals :V
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Post by: yuyukos on July 21, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
Not terribly excited for Bo5 <20 min games tomorrow.
:V
Racists win TI4, finals were the opposite of hype.
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Post by: Raikaria on July 21, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
And maybe the number of GG's in TI4 will finally convince Icefrog that DotA needs a public surrender option.
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Post by: PX on July 21, 2014, 09:54:18 PM
And maybe the number of GG's in TI4 will finally convince Icefrog that DotA needs a public surrender option.

There is, it's called quit the game.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on July 22, 2014, 12:46:13 AM
And maybe the number of GG's in TI4 will finally convince Icefrog that DotA needs a public surrender option.

if TI1-3 didn't convince them uh
dunno what to tell you
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Post by: helvetica on July 22, 2014, 01:59:08 AM
those finals :V
:flamingv:

VG totally fell apart like a house of cards wtf.

And maybe the number of GG's in TI4 will finally convince Icefrog that DotA needs a public surrender option.
I'm for and against this. I'm for it in the sense that DoW2 had one and it made perfect sense because there were unwinnable conditions but grinding out the cap points waiting for the end still takes forever. I'm against it because the pub population in Dota is already full of malcontents who call gg before the horn because they didn't get their favorite lane.

Honestly though with the number of people who abandon regularly in my games I don't really need to worry about it :V
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Post by: Bardiche on July 22, 2014, 11:57:53 AM
If they made it so the entire has to call out GG it'd be fine, I think, to include a public surrender option.
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Post by: helvetica on July 23, 2014, 01:17:17 AM
Which is how DoW2 works, but the only issue I have with that is false negatives for people reporting for not GGing.
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Post by: Keegster2 on July 23, 2014, 02:34:30 AM
I'm thinking about downloading this game, but before I do, I have some questions to ask.

1: Is this game beginner friendly? I'm not very good at MOBA games, mostly because I don't play any of them.
2: Is this game completely multiplayer, or is their an option to fight against computer players?
3: Should I do download the game, what characters should I play as while I get used to the game?
4: Does the DLC have anything important that I need to get, or can I safely ignore the DLC?

Thank you in advance, and if I think I'll like this game, I'll download it.
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Post by: Amraphenson on July 23, 2014, 02:41:45 AM
I'm thinking about downloading this game, but before I do, I have some questions to ask.

1: Is this game beginner friendly? I'm not very good at MOBA games, mostly because I don't play any of them.
2: Is this game completely multiplayer, or is their an option to fight against computer players?
3: Should I do download the game, what characters should I play as while I get used to the game?
4: Does the DLC have anything important that I need to get, or can I safely ignore the DLC?

Thank you in advance, and if I think I'll like this game, I'll download it.

1) dota2's learning curve is steeper than (insert anime character here)'s chest but
2) there are bot and tutorial options yeah.
3) http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suck read this, as blunt as the title is. See 1) as to why it's named that way
4) nope
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Post by: PX on July 23, 2014, 05:24:59 AM
Which is how DoW2 works, but the only issue I have with that is false negatives for people reporting for not GGing.

Better than HoN where you need 5/5 to surrender and if you don't then they'll vote kick you which requires 9/9 players (everybody but you)

I've gotten kicked for taking the Aegis before so yeah HoN is utter shit
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Post by: helvetica on July 23, 2014, 09:06:21 AM
Oh votekicking is a severe problem in DoW2, but that's mostly because the game is a P2P game (not server based) and if there's any sort of lag (or someone's playing on a potato) and the lag timers are exceeded kick votes come on (for everyone) and inevitably it's always voting to kick the other team's player. And since it's P2P and everyone has to host a simulation there's desync issues and no hope of reconnect. There's also idiots who intentionally kill their connection and force desyncs.

I really hope Relic addresses this in DoW3 and moves to a server-client model like Dota2 has. It would drastically improve performance by not letting the game drop to a crawl with lag because someone's playing on a potato, and internet hiccups won't ruin your game and force you to take a loss.

I do like DoW2's surrender system. You can surrender at any time, and a surrender vote comes up and everyone has to agree to it, but if it fails that person can't submit another surrender vote. It kind of sucks when you get that one stubborn idiot who won't vote to surrender and everyone else has burned theirs but at that point I just disconnect and move on :b (or I play in 3 stacks and don't run into that issue)
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Post by: Raikaria on July 23, 2014, 11:10:18 AM
There is, it's called quit the game.

Abandonment gets you punished.

And as I said; the lack of surrender leading to as high as 20~25 mins of wasted time at times as the enemy team goes on a power high and literally does anything except end the game [ie: fountaindiving] is a major reason I do not play DotA2 so much; sitting in fountain for 5 or more minutes unable to even leave the base or do anything else I die instantly isn't a fun gaming experience. I would play a lot more if there was public surrender; because this awful; unfun situations would not exist anymore.

And if people are surrendering games with MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on the line; a situation where you think people would fight to the bitter end; it shows how badly surrender is needed in DotA2.

Before 20 mins situations are created where teams would rather give up any chance of winning millions of dollars than keep playing the game.

That says volumes and volumes.
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Post by: trancehime on July 23, 2014, 11:20:15 AM
And if people are surrendering games with MILLIONS OF DOLLARS on the line; a situation where you think people would fight to the bitter end; it shows how badly surrender is needed in DotA2.

Before 20 mins situations are created where teams would rather give up any chance of winning millions of dollars than keep playing the game.

I recommend you to re-watch the games and tell me where at any point could VG have made a comeback in the games where they called incredibly early GGs. It was rOtk's own fault for drafting the same goddamn thing four times in a row; NewBee had already figured them out and read them so hard from previous watched matches. VG consistently picks the same sort of overall deathball line-up including hero such as Venomancer, which we have seen throughout TI4 as not exactly a wunderkind pick. In that situation, VG lost those games right at the drafting stage. Are you telling me that they just should "surrender" at 0 minute mark? It is a bullshit, VG are execution-based and their variety in term of drafting is not so colorful compared to other teams. But they have gotten this far through the mistakes of their opponents and their own exceptional execution. Even you saw their game versus DK, you will know what I mean.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on July 23, 2014, 11:32:02 AM
Stay in the trees (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDhdYbJpVQQ).
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Post by: Zerviscos on July 23, 2014, 12:05:27 PM
Is it me, or was the TI4 wasn't as hype as any of the previous TIs...in fact, no where near close enough.

I didn't even felt it this year. It was rather boring. I don't think it was just because of the tournament itself...I just don't know why.
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Post by: helvetica on July 23, 2014, 04:34:15 PM
Newbee was clearly outdrafting everyone, it was painfully clear in the the main stage games when they got their swagger. What gave them their shaky start was a lot of risky play and missed execution, but in the draft they were impeccable. Hao plays a very loose and very risky style of carry play and he realized during the group stage he was taking a lot of unnecessary risks. I mean, the guy has a reputation for rage diebacks for a reason :b VG was riding on a deathball with near perfect execution, but their trick was completely read by Newbee and destroyed.

When I saw Newbee put their run together in the main stage and start destroying people left and right I realized they were unstoppable. There was literally nobody who could outdraft them, period. They took Vici to the cleaners at the start and cruised to a victory over EG. It was absolutely terrifying how good their drafts were. It honestly didn't matter who made it to the finals between EG and Vici because neither of them were gonna win, although I would have given EG a slightly better fighting chance at it.
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Post by: DNAbc on July 23, 2014, 04:50:56 PM
TI4 has less hype from the western fanbase probably due to how 5 out of 8 best this year were chinese teams. I too am not feeling too much excitement despite preferring to spend more time in the western community,

I mean over here in tieba things literally exploded when EG was eliminated, and there were insane amounts of cash and bets being tossed around everywhere, its insane.
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Post by: Amraphenson on July 24, 2014, 03:10:02 AM
it was good dota but not entertaining dota
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Post by: Raikaria on July 24, 2014, 11:36:42 AM
Also what's all this 'racists win' stuff I've seen?
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Post by: trancehime on July 24, 2014, 11:44:15 AM
Also what's all this 'racists win' stuff I've seen?

Two of NewBee's players, Hao and Banana, are infamous for their heavy nationalism - and they were seen taunting Mushi and iceiceice at RedBull ECL tournament because the two of them are not China-born Chinese (Mushi is Malaysian Chinese and iceiceice is Singaporean Chinese). Also, they made crude jokes about how they should add ".cn" to their user tag. Lots of netizens called their nationalistic jeering and behavior as "racism."

When I saw Newbee put their run together in the main stage and start destroying people left and right I realized they were unstoppable. There was literally nobody who could outdraft them, period. They took Vici to the cleaners at the start and cruised to a victory over EG. It was absolutely terrifying how good their drafts were. It honestly didn't matter who made it to the finals between EG and Vici because neither of them were gonna win, although I would have given EG a slightly better fighting chance at it.

Director8 got his nickname for a reason
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on July 24, 2014, 11:46:33 AM
In addition to what Trance said, Hao and Xiao8(Banana?) allegedly asked other chinese teams not to scrim with DK because they have two south east asian players.
IIRC the allegations were proven to be false but haters gonna hate.
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Post by: trancehime on July 24, 2014, 11:53:05 AM
IIRC the allegations were proven to be false but hataters gonna hatate.

Yes, the allegations were proven false.

Xiao8 posted IM logs of conversation between NewBee and DK administration regarding the planning of scrims. In addition to this; xiao8's wife was sick so he had to go take care of her during that time so he couldn't make practices either. Also, an apology was posted on Mushi's FaceBook page stating that the drama was blown out of proportion and that it was a big misunderstanding.
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Post by: Pesco on July 24, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
And then there's racist Toby casting the finals :V
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Post by: Bardiche on July 24, 2014, 11:01:07 PM
I wasn't this hyped about the TI because Titan didn't go through, and last year I was rooting for Orange.

EDIT: All this racist business isn't that important to me, considering whenever I watch football games I also don't give one lick about personalities and drama, I just want to see the game.
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Post by: helvetica on July 25, 2014, 01:19:48 AM
I was very hype for this TI but the ending was very anticlimatic. It was obvious Newbee were on a different plane of existence towards the end, and the way VG played was very one dimensional. At least EG made their super-greedy play exciting with amazing plays.
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Post by: trancehime on July 25, 2014, 08:35:31 AM
I was very hype for this TI but the ending was very anticlimatic. It was obvious Newbee were on a different plane of existence towards the end, and the way VG played was very one dimensional. At least EG made their super-greedy play exciting with amazing plays.

As I stated earlier, VG's strength lies in their typically excellent execution to cover up for the fact they can only really draft one style of prominent DotA. They can surely mix it up at times, but it's not really the same thing as attempting totally different kinds of strategies as DK are wont to do, in fact DK's style of drafting is probably the reason why they lost at key games.
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Post by: Helepolis on July 25, 2014, 09:21:20 AM
And then there's racist Toby casting the finals :V
Nothing new him being the most biased, fanboy-extreme, racist. Don't get why they let him cast finals. Should've been like last year to make him butthurt.
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on July 27, 2014, 04:34:44 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/p8yQNX8.png)

REMEMBER GUSY YOUR SHIT IS WITH INFINITY CAN YOU GUS ACTUALLY ASK HIM FOR SHIT
IF NOBODY IS TAKING THAT SHIT I WILL TAKE IT BACK YO
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Post by: Captain Infinity on July 27, 2014, 04:35:57 AM
I'm still looking forward to judging you all for these items. Come at me.
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Post by: Dular on July 27, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
Okay sir Infinity.  I already asked for the box, but since no one else wants anything, I would ask for the Morphling blades as well.
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Post by: Dular on July 28, 2014, 07:16:55 AM
I have played Chen.  But not just Chen.

Laning Chen.  And it succeeded.  So hard.  And I was so happy because it was the last hero for the 10 hero compendium challenge, and I got my last immortal strongbox because of laning Chen.

http://dotabuff.com/matches/802263651

I can only suggest watching the replay.  My words can't do it justice as to what happened.
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Post by: Bardiche on July 29, 2014, 10:21:35 PM
Soooo... techies when?
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Post by: Pesco on July 30, 2014, 12:43:36 AM
When I reach 4k mmr
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on July 30, 2014, 04:40:38 AM
This game is too damn hard. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRpCGlK858)
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Helepolis on July 31, 2014, 12:08:03 PM
When I reach 4k mmr
Is that after or before Dota5 is released.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 02, 2014, 11:36:31 PM
Regeneration runes are a very highly contested resource, it seems (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T8sf2GRiEk).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on August 04, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
Hardcore defence of the ancient (http://dotabuff.com/matches/816211193)

I suck at carrying. Please teach me, Dormio-onee-sama.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 04, 2014, 01:15:12 PM
I feel like my character changes every other month or something when it comes to Bard's impression of me.

But on a more serious note, I'm not entirely sure how your team managed to win in the end.
Given the team compositions, I would have expected Radiant to win after having the Dire fail to push their advantage into a victory earlier in the game.
The miracles of matchmaking, I suppose.
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Post by: Bardiche on August 04, 2014, 01:41:58 PM
But dongseng, you're an inconsistent person. You'll always be my hyung-nim.
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Post by: Dorakyura on August 04, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
Hardcore defence of the ancient (http://dotabuff.com/matches/816211193)

I suck at carrying. Please teach me, Dormio-onee-sama.

Kunkka has 2 Rapier and 2 Daedalus, how does he not oneshot your entire team
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on August 04, 2014, 08:40:12 PM
Kunkka has 2 Rapier and 2 Daedalus, how does he not oneshot your entire team

... He has 2 Rapiers and 2 Daedalus. WHAT. I did not notice that until you pointed it out.

Uh, I have no idea?
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 05, 2014, 01:57:25 AM
I have no words (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUDIoAgCDrc).
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Post by: Bardiche on August 05, 2014, 10:22:14 AM
Oh god, Nether Ward is hilarious. Pop it down, watch Invoker SUFFER and Lion blow himself up, even after you die. rofl
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Post by: Dorakyura on August 05, 2014, 11:18:43 AM
And when there is a morphling, watch the lightning show :D
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Post by: Raikaria on August 05, 2014, 02:23:00 PM
Speak not of Skywrath Mage and Nether Wards.
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Post by: Bardiche on August 05, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
Speak not of Skywrath Mage and Nether Wards.

But he loves them. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC44-8mU5kE)
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Post by: Raikaria on August 05, 2014, 05:27:33 PM
I know that video already.

Hilarily ensues when you get Blademail to counter Pugna in return; Skywrath gets nuked by Nether Ward hard enough that the reflect oneshots the even softer Pugna.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 08, 2014, 11:57:22 AM
Landing hooks is hard, man (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIaKDjAHlG4).
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Post by: Raikaria on August 11, 2014, 09:15:58 AM
Apparently there is an exploit involving a Refresher and an ALLY'S dropped Bloodstone which lets Brew make an army of pandas by suicideing with the bloodstone at the right time, that don't have a timer.

Fun.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 11, 2014, 09:38:27 AM
Pretty sure you need Syllabear, not just any ally.
Also that bug has been known for at least three months.
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Post by: Raikaria on August 11, 2014, 09:51:55 AM
I saw it with a Death Prophet.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 11, 2014, 10:06:54 AM
Guess it's possible with other heroes then.
It's pretty impractical though since you can only create a set of pandas every 5 minutes. (I guess more if you have a refresher orb for the bloodstone carrier)
If you're doing shit like that the game is probably already over.
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Post by: Bardiche on August 19, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
Damn, my DOTA broke and can't fix itself. I even tried re-installing but "corrupt" lol. :(
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Post by: trancehime on August 27, 2014, 02:06:18 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1551741_792504127468429_4774472740942090733_n.png?oh=ae6a3d4457b82741b81a9cda2aa68fc8&oe=546B2F36&__gda__=1416563211_8834664efaaf2d961772ddf13d325387

confirmed the following:

BurNIng will now become a coach for the new players for Team DK
Mushi returns to Malaysia (most likely to help in developing the SEA DotA scene focused in Malaysia)
MMY is joining LGD
iceiceice is joining VG
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Post by: Pesco on August 27, 2014, 10:18:45 AM
RIP DK. My pics with BurNIng and rOtk will be the best things I got from TI.
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Post by: yuyukos on August 27, 2014, 10:53:11 AM
I woke up yesterday, and I was a VG fanboy.
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Post by: trancehime on August 28, 2014, 02:25:53 AM
35-5

RIP Secret Team

Chessie utilizing common sense and wrecking that one-dimensional draft
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 28, 2014, 07:56:19 PM
I want that fucking Jumo courier.
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Post by: Raikaria on August 30, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
> Techies update

OH GOD NO. [I'm safe from them in ability draft right they have 5 abilities because of the detonations]

Hell the skill icon for remove mine even has a trollface on it.
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Post by: Bardiche on August 30, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Trying hard to be excited. Not succeeding. Techies will just introduce a lot of headaches with people immediate picking and failing.
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Post by: Dular on August 30, 2014, 05:49:53 PM
> Techies update

(http://reevothemusefan.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/sal22.jpg)
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Post by: yuyukos on August 30, 2014, 07:39:35 PM
My whole life has led up to this moment. My body is ready. :V :V :V
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on August 30, 2014, 08:37:25 PM
It's all over now. DotA is ruined.
Look for me in the LoL thread if you need me.
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Post by: Raikaria on September 02, 2014, 08:20:19 AM
Couldn't you in theory do a really really fastpush strat with Techies/Pugna/Lesh/Jakiro[?] and maybe Dragon Knight?

Edit: Finally re-installed Dotes after steam died and needed a total reinstall which needed Dotes uninstalled.

Immediately get Tiny in AD as first pick. And take Ravage. Then I get Leap and Midnight Pulse somehow. [NO-ONE EVER TAKES THAT] Basically once we started getting some armor to let us ignore the tank Bristle with Razor ulti who was doing OK we won every fight easily.

Que me wrecking teamfights with Leap-Ravage-Midnight Pulse. I had Clockwerk Flares as my final skill too, not bad considering I was offlane. I ended with Basi/Drums/Arcane/Shivas which I think was pretty good for my build [Keep them in that Midnight Pulse longer after Ravage]

Also no-one took Black Hole. I am in that much of trench level. I know everyone wants to carry but still...

This is why I like AD; every game is different. Different skills; different hero; different item builds needed...

Also seriously why does no-one ever take Midnight Pulse in AD? It's a great skill. Especially when you have C.C. Even something as simple as Frostbite; and it's outright insane with some ultimates. [Chronosphere; Overgrowth; Black Hole; Ravage]

I'd like to combo it with Upheaval one day. Just to make Upheaval useful for once in it's life.

Or Heartstopper Aura and just laughas the entire enemy team keels over in the big AoE stun ultimate.
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Post by: Dular on September 02, 2014, 04:31:51 PM
I'd like to combo it with Upheaval one day. Just to make Upheaval useful for once in it's life.

If you think like that, there may be a reason as to why you're so deep in the trenches.  Upheaval is awesome, man.
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Post by: Amraphenson on September 02, 2014, 04:38:17 PM
upheaval is actually good but people don't like it because ~traditionally~ it's been bad
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Post by: PX on September 02, 2014, 05:12:29 PM
upheaval is actually good but people don't like it because ~traditionally~ it's been bad

Just like Midnight Pulse :V
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Post by: yuyukos on September 02, 2014, 06:35:09 PM
Just like Midnight Pulse :V
But Midnight Pulse can clear trees so I can jungle faster!
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Post by: Raikaria on September 03, 2014, 12:23:56 PM
Yes but in Ability Draft where you may or may not have skills which like Upheaval and you may or may not have Warlock Golems which can smash stuff while you channel it it's generally one of the lowest-tier abilities.

I had a hilariously broken Lifestealer game. My picks went:

Earthshock -> Degen Aura -> Infest -> Repel

The PLAN was to be a sort of support-tank what with repel.

So I went to the Dire hard lane with our Windranger and noticed we only had one enemy there. I quickly realized their Razor must be jungleing [He had summon Treants]; so I walked to the side shop; brought an Orb of Venom to go with Earthshock and Degen Aura; and proceeded to MAKE THE RAZOR'S LIFE A LIVING HELL. Helped that I teleported top and got 2 more kills after my 2nd Razor kill and picking up a DD. This got me Lv6 and after Razor walked past a creep I had infested he just gave up and quit the game outright.

The one thing that would have made things better was a blink ability; but w did have a Nature's Prophet with Teleport so I just Infested in him for transportation purposes; and instead put my feed to good use with an Armlet and Moj and basically no-one could take me on because I had Repel; more rightclick than anyone else and Degen+Orv of Venom + Earthshock. Basically if they saw me it was 'run on sight'.

Also offlaneing as Tide with Napalm and Sandstorm was fun.

Until someone decided to buy the mythical forbidden item known as Dust. [Then for some reason my midlaner came to the offlane and never went back mid so I just rotated thereand began Napalm+Sandstorming it and the large camp and farmed a quick Blink. I had Ravage. AGAIN. WHY DOES RAVAGE ALWAYS GET TO ME?]
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on September 04, 2014, 12:59:11 PM
EDIT: IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY MY BATTLEFURY FOR 20USD
which is like 10$ off the steam market
Do PM me I have shit from amazon that I want to buy
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Post by: Dorakyura on September 04, 2014, 04:13:31 PM
what, you sell rares now? I though you were like, giving them away, some time ago?
What about London  :V
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Post by: Raikaria on September 04, 2014, 08:21:52 PM
Techies are out.

Also:

All-hero challenge; win a game with each hero in a specific order

Guess who I got first?

MEEPO
Forever 0/108.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 04, 2014, 08:26:43 PM
Meepo is a good hero though.

Also:
Fuck Techies, fuck DotA, I'm going to grind shitty MMOs now.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on September 04, 2014, 08:28:13 PM
Meepo is a good hero though.

Also:
Fuck Techies, fuck DotA, I'm going to grind shitty MMOs now.
i saw you playing maple story lol
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 04, 2014, 08:31:48 PM
i saw you playing maple story lol
Fuck. (Most of it is time spent idling)
(http://i.imgur.com/N5CEuVN.png)
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Post by: Bardiche on September 04, 2014, 09:37:42 PM
I play FFXIV a lot lately. Probably'll try to avoid DOTA pubbing too much until the Techies craze dies down.
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Post by: Raikaria on September 04, 2014, 09:49:02 PM
Meepo is a good hero though.

Also:
Fuck Techies, fuck DotA, I'm going to grind shitty MMOs now.

I know Meepo is good.

I also have the micro skills of a one-armed monkey. One unit is enough to control. I can't even micro stuff like Illusions or Neutrals or Necro units right. Let alone 4~5 Meepos. [Also why I don't play Brewmaster or Visage]

The issue is not with the hero here. It's with the incompetant Raikaria sitting at his laptop.

Also just play Ability Draft Dormio. Techie-Proof gamemode :3
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 04, 2014, 10:32:46 PM
I hate Ability Draft, I think it's a shitty mode and refuse to play it.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on September 04, 2014, 10:37:24 PM
Fuck. (Most of it is time spent idling)
(http://i.imgur.com/N5CEuVN.png)
im pretty sure i have a lot of hours logged on it two. steam isnt showing though so w/e
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Post by: Bardiche on September 04, 2014, 10:49:09 PM
I hate Ability Draft, I think it's a shitty mode and refuse to play it.

QFT
Fuck AD.
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Post by: PX on September 04, 2014, 11:32:14 PM
THERE'S ALWAYS CAPTAIN'S MODE
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 04, 2014, 11:41:49 PM
Zeus' W vs. Techies.
Literally free MMR.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on September 04, 2014, 11:56:04 PM
Zeus' W vs. Techies.
Literally free MMR.
force staff allies into mines so you dont have to pick zues
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Post by: ActionDan on September 05, 2014, 01:18:10 AM
pick dazzle.  get grave lvl 1.
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Post by: Dular on September 05, 2014, 03:53:45 AM
AD is a mode that makes you realize just how important animations are, and other things.  Like the whole "Shackles does damage every .1 seconds", always important to know the minute details of skills and whatnot.

Just my opinion though.
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Post by: PX on September 05, 2014, 05:35:57 AM
AD is a mode that makes you realize just how important animations are, and other things.  Like the whole "Shackles does damage every .1 seconds", always important to know the minute details of skills and whatnot.

Just my opinion though.

AD is a mode where everybody thinks Zeus is a carry. It just doesn't work.
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Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on September 05, 2014, 11:58:04 AM
what, you sell rares now? I though you were like, giving them away, some time ago?
What about London  :V

i want to play dark souls and need to buy it but i am overspending on everything right now
i'm just afraid i can't play dark souls/2/demon because when i turn the camera i vomit uncontrollably

Last week of December is when I am going to London bby
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 05, 2014, 12:16:04 PM
Finally. This game sucks.
(http://i.imgur.com/f1z9se7.png)
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Post by: Raikaria on September 05, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
I don't get it.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 05, 2014, 02:01:26 PM
I reached 51% winrate, which has been a goal of mine for a long time.
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Post by: Raikaria on September 05, 2014, 03:36:17 PM
I played 2 AD games last night with PX.

Apparently only the second one was in the 'Very High Skill' bracket. The other one dosen't even have a bracket listed on Dotabuff.

And I wasn't completely useless in the 'VHS' game and we even won it.

Oh god what have I done to my MMR by playing with PX. I'm not good.
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Post by: PX on September 05, 2014, 03:48:02 PM
I'm... pretty sure AD doesn't affect MMR
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 05, 2014, 08:45:11 PM
Very High Skill doesn't mean anything anyway.
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Post by: Raikaria on September 05, 2014, 08:56:07 PM
Good point Dormio. I have learnt much from your videos.

Although we all know my bracket is like; basement.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 05, 2014, 09:04:57 PM
Apparently I forgot to post this? I don't think I did, but whatever. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjrfz60aptQ)
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Post by: Raikaria on September 07, 2014, 09:21:36 PM
- Plays All Pick

- Picks Bane 2nd in the team

- Ends up Dire Offlane Bane against Witch Doctor and Faceless Void because NP wanted to jungle we had a mid Drow [Who did great]; and the other duo wanted to stay together. [Axe+Disruptor. It worked; although they were against an Offlane Storm Spirit since they had a Batrider jungle.]

- Does well enough that I force a 3rd person to stay in my lane permanently [I almost killed both of them 1v2 but Void's walk came up in time after my Grip just failed to finish him]. I did put 2 points into Enfeeble early so that Void had issues farming.

Welcome to my Trench. Where offlane Bane is a thing that happens. It sure felt weird to have a BKB; Arcanes and Urn on Bane by 20 mins. Then I got a Force Staff. I had about 2.5k at the end and NO CLUE what to spend it on. Maybe Ags?

Gripping Void while he's in Chrono to save Axe is fun. Sleeping a Batrider who is attempting to grab Drow is also fun so we murder the rest of his team; Drow gets away fromhim and then we murder him. Turns out Lasso isn't that dangerous when you have no team to do the murdering.

Also it did not occur to me until this game how well Bane and Disruptor work together. Which is strange since Bane is one of 4 heroes I actually play passably. [Rubick; CM and Leshrac being the others]. Bane can effortlessly set up Kinetic Fields with Nightmare. Their ultimates work together great, and of course Glimpse into Feind's Grip is also excellent. The kill setups were real.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 07, 2014, 10:26:03 PM
I think that's less Disrupter/Bane and more Disrupter being fairly strong in general with any team.

Welcome to my Trench. Where offlane Bane is a thing that happens.
Nah, that doesn't seem too bad.
Beats solo long lane Techies.
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Post by: Amraphenson on September 08, 2014, 06:25:46 AM
techies mid plz
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/882581055
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 08, 2014, 07:36:12 PM
Seriously, why do you keep deleting my posts? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alxAlqRYTmI)
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Post by: helvetica on September 09, 2014, 08:45:13 PM
Offlane Bane is fine if not ideal in the trench. A halfway decent Bane can absolutely dominate a safe lane carry and set them wayyyyy back and requires far less coordination than a traditional tryhard 1-1-1 with a Bane and whatever roamer.

I don't know how many times where I've went offlane Bane and ended up getting 5+ kills before 10 minutes and having mek and most of a necrobook 1 done. Plus off lane you're far less likely to get yelled at for stealing farm from a crappy teammate.

All my real poverty suffering Bane games have been games playing babysitter safe lane and forced to farm pulls and being way under level. Bane needs that fast 6 before other heroes get their escape mechanisms or major burst nukes. While Fiends Grip pierces BKB he still has to channel and he shines in solo ganks and is flimsy in team fights until he can get a BKB or tanky items like mek of his own. Plus with two disables and a crippling debuff and a general lack of map awareness likely you'll only see like a babysitting support or a way too late mid rotation as a response to a tower dive early game and you can divide and conquer easily.
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Post by: Bardiche on September 09, 2014, 11:21:33 PM
Trying to figure out how to level early as Techies. I've managed to somehow be less of an annoyance and more of an asset when I play it lately, and we had one nice moment where team pulled back into my minefield and blew the enemy team to Kingdom Come... but running out of MP sucks and getting ult after 15 minutes is stupid.
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Post by: Amraphenson on September 10, 2014, 01:05:05 AM
Take him mid in my opinion. Even if you don't land last hits, you can still soak up solo EXP and get six or seven fairly easily; transition to roaming around setting mine fields or sealing off the jungle and let one of your supports take mid. Abuse the soul ring trick to no end; drop any other mana items, soul ring, pick them up. Free mana. Proximity mines can block off camps so abuse this to no end. Blink dagger is pretty important so you can blink on things that are getting stunned and proximity mine them; in fights your remote mines are delayed aoe fingers.

I do null talisman, two branches, pooled tangoes into bottle/soulring/manaboots. Then you do blink/force/aghanims. Proximity mine towers for push, set up in your jungles to buy your allies space or kill opportunities.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 11, 2014, 10:57:32 AM
What a team player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nembAYSJVoU).
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Post by: helvetica on September 11, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
So uhh.

I apologize profusely :[
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/888476276

Please don't kill me :[
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 14, 2014, 09:28:01 AM
MotK made it onto Hexor's channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPvHNJUPP0Y&feature=youtu.be&t=1m41s). :derp:
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Post by: PX on September 14, 2014, 04:37:57 PM
MotK made it onto Hexor's channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPvHNJUPP0Y&feature=youtu.be&t=1m41s). :derp:

That was a thing of beauty
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Post by: Dular on September 14, 2014, 05:57:07 PM
MotK made it onto Hexor's channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPvHNJUPP0Y&feature=youtu.be&t=1m41s). :derp:

When I read this, I was like "Oh wow, we did something pro?"

Nah, what on earth was I thinking  :V
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Post by: Bardiche on September 15, 2014, 12:14:12 AM
Had to watch that three times. Man, making a debut with an embarrassing Aegis denial... ;_;
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Post by: Dorakyura on September 15, 2014, 10:06:06 AM
Had to watch that three times. Man, making a debut with an embarrassing Aegis denial... ;_;

Well they wanted the 100g more than the aegis  :V
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Post by: ActionDan on September 15, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
"big plays" in quotes indeed
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Post by: Raikaria on September 15, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Hey, it is a big play. No-one said if it was a big throw or a big win.

In other news, I have a pc which can actually run DotA2 smoothly now. Dosen't stop me being godawful but I still managed stuff like stealing Chain Frosts and Meat Hooiks with Rubick the game I played.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 22, 2014, 12:29:44 AM
Fuck Roshan and his Aegis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEj3luDM-ac).
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Post by: Captain Infinity on September 23, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
Fuck Roshan and his Aegis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEj3luDM-ac).

Refresher there would solve all your problems :V
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 23, 2014, 12:26:57 PM
dondo step aside, we have a new pudge player (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pArlppx-iW0).
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Post by: helvetica on September 23, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
Refresher there would solve all your problems :V
I always go refresher after armlet now. That slow is wayyyy too good and trenchies don't know about mana burning.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/897613351 balling out of control BV
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Post by: Dular on September 23, 2014, 06:38:19 PM
I always go refresher after armlet now. That slow is wayyyy too good and trenchies don't know about mana burning.

Obligatory (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w61zRKZ9K5c)
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Post by: helvetica on September 23, 2014, 08:29:57 PM
Hahahaha, you can't get any more lives than that. Reincarnate + Aegis + Refresher + Cheese :D
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 23, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
I like how SF and Techies have gotten their arcana before PA so far (http://www.dota2.com/rekindlingsoul/).

Also, some interesting changes in this patch.
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Post by: Raikaria on September 23, 2014, 09:53:39 PM
Bane

    Aghanim's Scepter Fiend's Grip now also causes anyone who attacks Bane while he is channeling to be afflicted with Nightmare


Bane being one of my mains, this is very interesting.

Dark Seer

    Vacuum cooldown rescaled from 28.0 seconds to 28 seconds

Wat

Doom

    Doom now requires Aghanim's Scepter to disable passives

    Doom ability cast point increased from 0.3 to 0.5

Good

Earth Spirit

    Added Aghanim's Scepter: Grants Earth Spirit a new ability, Enchant Remnant, which lets him temporarily convert a hero into a Stone Remnant.
._.

Elder Titan

    Added Aghanim's Scepter: Causes units that are pulled in by Earth Splitter to be disarmed in addition to being slowed. Slow/disarm duration increased from 3/4/5 to 4/5/6.

Interesting

Legion Commander

    Enabled in Captain's Mode

Someone will be happy with this

Light Strike Array stun duration increased from 1.6/1.7/1.8/1.9 to 1.6/1.8/2/2.2

Yay for Lina's stun scaleing better!

Phoenix

    Added Aghanim's Scepter: Allows Phoenix to cast Supernova on an allied hero, bringing both into the Sun to be reborn together. This does not refresh either hero's ultimate. 500 cast range. If the Sun is destroyed, both heroes will die.

Oh the troll potential

@ Riki: How is this not classed as a rework to remove him from Captains?

Sven

    Added Aghanim's Scepter: While activated, God's Strength grants an allied aura (900 area of effect) for 40/60/80% of base damage.

Mother of god.

Batrider in Firefly, Visage's Familiars, Beastmaster's Hawk, and Flying Couriers no longer trigger or get hurt by Land Mines
 Makes sense

Timbersaw

    Added Aghanim's Scepter: Grants Timbersaw a second Chakram.

._.

Added Aghanim's Scepter: Grants a new ability, Eyes in the Forest, which allows Treant to enchant trees to spy on his enemies and expand the area Overgrowth affects.
Very interesting

Crimson Guard

    New Item that is formed from Vanguard and Buckler

Vanguard just got better

New Chat Wheel Options: Zeus Ult Now!
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on September 23, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Treant's agh "buff" is just enabling his dota 1 skills, which was free wards on trees and Overgrowth doing burn on affected units.
That being said, A TREE SEES YOU. A TREE. :V
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Post by: Raikaria on September 23, 2014, 10:36:08 PM
Also dosen't this mean RIP Tree and Techies from AD? They get a new button for use with their Ag's Ults right?
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 23, 2014, 11:09:32 PM
Techies already had 6 skills though. :derp:
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Post by: PX on September 23, 2014, 11:59:07 PM
DOTA IS DEAD
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Post by: yuyukos on September 24, 2014, 12:04:18 AM
Also dosen't this mean RIP Tree and Techies from AD? They get a new button for use with their Ag's Ults right?
Yeah, no more OP tree with 85 base damage.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on September 24, 2014, 01:22:27 AM
Cancer is not as terminal anymore ;_;
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on September 24, 2014, 01:47:58 AM
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Ogre Magi
Base HP regeneration increased from 0.25 to 2.5

That escalated quickly.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on September 24, 2014, 02:02:05 AM
Ogre Magi basically got buffs early game and got nerfs late game.

This makes me sad, as a person who does disgusting things with Ogre.
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Post by: yuyukos on September 24, 2014, 04:19:15 AM
Cyka losing silence on Bloodrage is a pretty big thing too, quite disappointed to see that.
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Post by: Prody on September 24, 2014, 04:32:55 AM
Axe just gets better each update~
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Post by: PX on September 24, 2014, 06:04:45 AM
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But we?re pretty sure we won?t be able to make enough progress on the larger update if we put it down to work on Diretide ? so we?ve decided that we?re not going to ship a Diretide event this year.

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ=ε/̵͇̿̿/?̿?̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿ Give DIRETIDE
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on September 24, 2014, 06:20:32 AM
Techies already had 6 skills though. :derp:

I wrote Techies instead of Timber.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on September 24, 2014, 12:04:53 PM
So when is this slated to hit?

Also, damn, doesn't this mean Laguna Blade no longer works with Ethereal and Veil of Discord when you have Aghanim?
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Post by: ActionDan on September 24, 2014, 03:48:02 PM
lina keeps getting buffed.

good shit.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on September 24, 2014, 03:48:39 PM
lina keeps getting buffed.

good shit.

Sort of, tested it and she can no longer benefit from magic damage amplification when she has Aghanim.

Treant Ult is now awesome.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on September 24, 2014, 10:55:29 PM
Sort of, tested it and she can no longer benefit from magic damage amplification when she has Aghanim.
Yeah I considered that a straight nerf tbh. Yeah it's pure damage, but eblade/veil no longer works on her :[.

Although I guess it brings up a good tactical point. If you're a poor support, going for aghs is probably a better choice unless you really think you can afford the buildup to eblade and benefit from it, and with eblade no longer putting you ethereal except on self/ally cast, it makes even less sense to get as a support. Being able to deal a huge amount of damage to that enemy carry under BKB or potentially kill a dangerous but flimsy teamfighter like Enigma or CM is a valuable skill to have. I mean, with aghs essentially anyone under 950 health is dead, period. Plus with the gold change she can get much more farm now from the kills she's going to net, making her a much more viable position 4/5 low farm support.

Honestly eblade only makes sense if you're playing carry Lina and have other INT items to abuse like hex/etc. Orchid damage amp should still help since it applies the +30% at the end instead of lowering magic resistance. Veils I tend to get on her anyways since it's a great support item period and it's a great item for her to boost her nukes + any other nukes the team might have. If you end up solo mid generally the time to get a veils is a lot quicker than carries would get BKB up, letting you get a LOT of easy kills. I tend to even get it before force staff/blink since it amplifies your combo so much before enemy health pools start getting outrageous.

If you're a support Lina, after arcanes, veil isn't that much of a reach and while she's an OK mek carrier, you'd probably want one of your cores to get it since they can get it a lot sooner. And even if you have to delay it to get other items like force/blink/etc, it's not like a veil loses its effectiveness over time. If anything having a veils is probably a necessity now with magic resistance being stackable now.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 24, 2014, 11:01:31 PM
At what point in the game can you even afford an aghs+eblade on Lina, barring stomps where it doesn't even matter?
That's 10k gold not going towards boots, wards, blink, cyclone, hex, whatever else you want on Lina that's infinitely more useful.
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Post by: helvetica on September 24, 2014, 11:07:40 PM
Well yeah, I never said it ever made sense to go eblade on a support Lina now, it just makes LESS sense now. Generally if I'm playing core Lina eblade is my 4-5th item when I need the survivability and I need to scale my nuke up. At this point I've already got mek + hex/orchid/euls + veil.

Example game
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/758298286

I mean, I'm getting the ghost scepter anyways regardless (I can't think of any reason never to have one on her), I don't finish it to eblade until after I've gotten other far more valuable items. But it's a great item on her since she has a solid INT growth and it combos insanely well with her nukes (landing LSA on an ethereal target is so easy). I've never "rushed" it (unless the game is so wildly out of control and I'm just goofing around) (ok going through my match history I have, and I justly lost those games), makes no sense, but as a next step item after a big core item.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Amraphenson on September 25, 2014, 03:44:09 AM
It might be a potential damage output nerf but the situation in which it's a nerf was so out there to begin with that it doesn't really affect 99.999% of us.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on September 25, 2014, 04:56:00 AM
:V I'm trying to keep the dream alive ok :[
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Post by: Helepolis on September 25, 2014, 08:22:30 AM
Yeah, no more OP tree with 85 base damage.
Bah, arc lightning + fiery soul + God's strength was funny AD combo on him D:

I have no idea what to think of Ogre changes.
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Post by: Bardiche on September 25, 2014, 09:28:07 AM
It might be a potential damage output nerf but the situation in which it's a nerf was so out there to begin with that it doesn't really affect 99.999% of us.

Skywrath Mage boosts magic damage, Pugna boosts magic damage...
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 25, 2014, 09:34:10 AM
The point is why does Lina have an aghs at a point where things like decrep can still be relevant on important targets as a source of damage amplification.
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Post by: Bardiche on September 25, 2014, 10:00:44 AM
The point is why does Lina have an aghs at a point where things like decrep can still be relevant on important targets as a source of damage amplification.

Precisely this. It's not just buying E-Blade, it's all sources that amplify magic damage no longer function with Aghanim Sceptre Lina. From the patch notes, they said:
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There have been a few abilities rebalanced with these mechanics in mind. In some cases the intent is to maintain similar balance, in other cases as an adjustment to their balance.

But in Lina's case, it's a nerf in most cases. Pure damage benefits from ignoring magic resistances, so it's useful against Anti-Mage and the like, but most of the time you're stuck in a conundrum between benefiting from allies and items or piercing magic resistance. That isn't the case currently but will be the case next update, and it sucks.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 25, 2014, 10:59:22 AM
If you have aghanims you're probably going for BKB targets as a priority which is why I say magic amp like decrep won't help since it's dispelled by BKB.
And what I meant by the prior statement was that there is no way that you should have the aghs before enemy cores have managed to farm up their BKBs.
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Post by: Zerviscos on September 25, 2014, 12:14:09 PM
Patch 6.82 Highlights (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr6Cyhh1GN0)

Welp. Time to let the new patch hype die down for a while.

Edit: It'll take a while for people to get used to the new patch. Might as well go practice on bot or something for a while, and feel the new hero changes and map.

Edit2: Srz, new Riki, is Akali. Only much OP'ier.
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Post by: Bardiche on September 25, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
Edit: It'll take a while for people to get used to the new patch. Might as well go practice on bot or something for a while, and feel the new hero changes and map.

There's a path by the Dire bot T1 that lets you just walk past it. :B
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Post by: Raikaria on September 25, 2014, 08:22:06 PM
You know something I missed because I cannot play the hero to save my life?

Chen can take Ancient creeps with Ag's now.

And his ultimate fully heals them.

And he can have 3 with max rank R.

Yeeeah.
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Post by: Amraphenson on September 25, 2014, 08:54:58 PM
the most important thing is that you can get the thunderlizard and buff your carry, but otherwise the ancients don't really do a lot of damage at all.
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Post by: Raikaria on September 25, 2014, 09:24:39 PM
They're still a big beefcake to tank towers [2k+ HP] and a lot stronger lategame than normal creeps.
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Post by: Amraphenson on September 25, 2014, 09:35:16 PM
In a situation where Chen has aghs, I think needing a beefcake to tank towers is a non-issue. The ancients are also godawful slow, and you can't do any force staff trick initiates with them like you can with the centaur or troll.
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Post by: Raikaria on September 25, 2014, 09:37:11 PM
OK.

As I said; I can't Chen for my life so yeah. I know nothing about Chen, it just sounded cool.

The Thunderbeast at least is probobly better than most of the normal creeps.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 25, 2014, 09:39:09 PM
@Amra: I don't really think so.
Assuming the game is going well for Chen, he only really needs the meka/boots before rushing the aghs unless he wants some other utility like a force.
And then other people can pick up the meka too so ancients could still be relevant for tanking at that point.
However I will say that regular hard creeps already do a really good job of tanking towers though. Especially if you have a wildkin with that stupid armour aura.
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Post by: Amraphenson on September 25, 2014, 10:09:02 PM
@Dormio: Fair enough. My main point is that there's no real reason to pay attention to the Ancients as the enemy team though; they don't have anything worthwhile that will draw fire, so beyond towers they won't actually tank for you much.
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Post by: helvetica on September 25, 2014, 10:36:09 PM
Precisely this. It's not just buying E-Blade, it's all sources that amplify magic damage no longer function with Aghanim Sceptre Lina. From the patch notes, they said:
But in Lina's case, it's a nerf in most cases. Pure damage benefits from ignoring magic resistances, so it's useful against Anti-Mage and the like, but most of the time you're stuck in a conundrum between benefiting from allies and items or piercing magic resistance. That isn't the case currently but will be the case next update, and it sucks.
It's going to be a tactical decision at the very least when drafting. Do you draft Lina and play her a core/higher farm support role to get aghs to counter heavy magic resistance? Do you pair her with a source of magic amp/setup (Skywrath/Pugna) and play that way? Aghs is no longer going to be an automatic decision, it's going to be something that'll need to be decided at draft time.

Better stun scaling at the very least makes her a better 3/4 and hopefully with the changes to kill/xp amounts making taking out that farmed core far more valuable. The nice thing at least is that pairing her with a magic amp hero (like Skywrath/Pugna) gives her access to a slow which will help her line her stun up better. I'm still convinced playing Lina as a 3 is the way to go, and paired with a good roaming support to setup kills she can punish the undoubtedly more passive gameplay that's going to come from the new meta.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 25, 2014, 10:55:28 PM
No clue about meta changes, but no to the other stuff.
You keep talking about pairing Lina with other sources of magic amplification and how the aghs causes a nerf in this situation and I keep saying that this line of thought is stupid.
Because in what universe does Lina get the aghs fast enough that people like Skywrath and Pugna can silence/decrep people and it isn't instantly dispelled by BKB/Manta/Diffusal/Abaddon/Omniknight(/Legion Commander)?

Also, why would you draft Lina in the first place?
She has sub-par movement speed, terrible animations, two dead skills in the early game, and a need to leech exp.
And if you pick her to counter magic resist I think you're doing it wrong.
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Post by: helvetica on September 25, 2014, 11:19:44 PM
Because she provides things that other supports can't do, a transition from nukes to right click damage? Her movement speed is obviously a hindrance, but her QW combo is still plenty enough to shove people out of lane before 6. And honestly it's not that hard to keep her at max stacks since her W is on such a short cooldown and it's easy to get enough mana regen to sustain it.

I'm not saying she's going to be in the first class of mids, or even supports, but clearly Icefroggy wants to shift the meta so that bottle crowing is dead once and for all and mid stops being just a second core farming and more of the core tempo controlling spot, encouraging teams to draft mids that can gank and punish passive play. Once she gets 6 she can essentially pick off people constantly before BKBs and other things come online. Heck even without pairing her with a greedy support like Skywrath or another core like Pugna, there is a first class support she would pair amazingly with, Ancient Apparition. Ice Vortex alone gives her a major boost in her nuke potential, as well as providing an AoE slow to improve her stun landing.

You're not picking her to counter magic resist, you're picking her because in the end game with Aghs, essentially any hero below 950HP is dead, no questions asked. From 900 range. And unlike other supports who fall off as the game progresses, she can transition to a DPS role with a frightently high burst AS and the longest base range in the game. She just outranges everything that could possibly be a threat to her. She's a better Sniper in every way, especially now that Sniper can't just stunlock someone to death.

I mean, QoP can do the same kinds of things, but her nukes still fall off and she doesn't provide a stun. But she has a better base AS/MS and Blink, so it's kind of a tossup there. Obviously with the meta shift I see her coming back in style as well.
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Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 25, 2014, 11:40:36 PM
No.

Because she provides things that other supports can't do, a transition from nukes to right click damage? Her movement speed is obviously a hindrance, but her QW combo is still plenty enough to shove people out of lane before 6. And honestly it's not that hard to keep her at max stacks since her W is on such a short cooldown and it's easy to get enough mana regen to sustain it.
Just like the hard carry Abaddon build right?
Movement speed being bad is the least of her problems.
It's like, okay, she has an AS/MS steroid. Cool.
Except because of Lina's shitty animations she loses a shitton of time, and therefore DPS, casting her spells to keep that steroid up.
Not to mention that Lina's attack animation is also shit and good luck switching targets or kiting while attacking.
And then there's the stupid amounts of farm that you'll need for this to work and the lack of available item slots given you need to compensate for Lina's shitty MS/animations.

I'm not saying she's going to be in the first class of mids, or even supports, but clearly Icefroggy wants to shift the meta so that bottle crowing is dead once and for all and mid stops being just a second core farming and more of the core tempo controlling spot, encouraging teams to draft mids that can gank and punish passive play.
I'm pretty sure the ganking mid died even more with this patch. But that's just my opinion and I haven't looked too deeply into the changes so I can't really comment on this much.
EDIT: Maybe it will be more in vogue now. Dunno. But I don't see anything that stops the farming mid.

Once she gets 6 she can essentially pick off people constantly before BKBs and other things come online. Heck even without pairing her with a greedy support like Skywrath or another core like Pugna, there is a first class support she would pair amazingly with, Ancient Apparition. Ice Vortex alone gives her a major boost in her nuke potential, as well as providing an AoE slow to improve her stun landing.
So can Lion. Or Skywrath. Both of which are much better heroes than Lina to have on your team.
... Or SB or Sven or Shadow Shaman or Centaur or Tusk or Veno or PotM or FV or VS or NA or Bane or WD or Necro or Bat or Visage.
Basically, why would you pick Lina over any of these heroes?

You're not picking her to counter magic resist, you're picking her because in the end game with Aghs, essentially any hero below 950HP is dead, no questions asked. From 900 range. And unlike other supports who fall off as the game progresses, she can transition to a DPS role with a frightently high burst AS and the longest base range in the game. She just outranges everything that could possibly be a threat to her. She's a better Sniper in every way, especially now that Sniper can't just stunlock someone to death.
Firstly, most supports don't fall off that much in the end game. Initiation, even single target, on cores can wreck the enemy team any day.
950 pure nuke is highly situational and assumes that you've actually managed to farm the aghanims in the first place. And then you want DPS on top of that?
Good luck getting all that gold before the game ends. It doesn't help that aghs doesn't really help your autoattack at all.
Given Lina's lack of mobility and shitty animations, 650 range on autos isn't enough for Lina to be safe while autoattacking.
Sniper's strength comes in his 1k range and stupid attack/projectile animation. Lina doesn't come anywhere close to Sniper as a carry.
EDIT: Oh, and as mentioned above, even if you managed to farm 30k gold somehow you lose a shitton of DPS casting your crappy spells because of Lina's horrible cast animation.

I mean, QoP can do the same kinds of things, but her nukes still fall off and she doesn't provide a stun. But she has a better base AS/MS and Blink, so it's kind of a tossup there. Obviously with the meta shift I see her coming back in style as well.
QoP and Lina aren't comparable at all...
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Post by: helvetica on September 26, 2014, 12:30:35 AM
Greedy mid? Check
Great AoE base spells? Check
Really the big difference between QoP and Lina is QoP has far better maneuverability than Lina, but Lina can pick a hero and delete them. QoP has the better teamfight with her AoE scream, but with stacking magic resistance I think her output falls off even faster now. At least Aghs Lina still retains her main utility.

OD falls in the same category but I think he's in a different class since his Q turns any INT item into ridiculous right click pure damage. I wouldn't pick Lina over OD but OD is also a much heavier investment, without high INT he's useless.

Just like the hard carry Abaddon build right?
Movement speed being bad is the least of her problems.
It's like, okay, she has an AS/MS steroid. Cool.
Except because of Lina's shitty animations she loses a shitton of time, and therefore DPS, casting her spells to keep that steroid up.
Not to mention that Lina's attack animation is also shit and good luck switching targets or kiting while attacking.
And then there's the stupid amounts of farm that you'll need for this to work and the lack of available item slots given you need to compensate for Lina's shitty MS/animations.
Euls is all you need for enough regen to sustain QW spam if you're really poor, she has a great INT growth. Euls also gives her more MS and gives her a really easy way to self-setup LSA. Typically I go Orchid tho for the damage amp and she actually uses the right click damage it gives. QoP typically goes Orchid for similar reasons, so item progression doesn't differ very much.

With the increased mana costs to Mek, you're no longer going to see STR/AGI cores get Mek, and your 4/5 spots aren't going to get it very fast. So this is another + for the INT nuker mid. She loves Mek since she badly needs the armor (since she's not slippery like QoP).

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I'm pretty sure the ganking mid died even more with this patch. But that's just my opinion and I haven't looked too deeply into the changes so I can't really comment on this much.
EDIT: Maybe it will be more in vogue now. Dunno. But I don't see anything that stops the farming mid.
HUGE nerf to bottle crow, it's not even viable anymore. Rune control now even more important since 1) both runes spawn and 2) runes replace themselves after 2 minutes. A mid can't afford to ignore runes anymore, and expect significantly more fights breaking out around them.

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So can Lion. Or Skywrath. Both of which are much better heroes than Lina to have on your team.
Lion is arguably a better support than Lina. Lina's really a poor lane support. Her stun is annoying, she needs farm, and she's more likely to steal kills than help set them up. Skywrath is a poor support too since he needs significant farm, and now with concussive shot disjointable I don't think he's going to be nearly as annoying as he used to be. Ancient Seal is still gross.

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... Or SB or Sven or Shadow Shaman or Centaur or Tusk or Veno or PotM or FV or VS or NA or Bane or WD or Necro or Bat or Visage.
Basically, why would you pick Lina over any of these heroes?
Why would you ever pick space cow? He's awful in every way, probably the worst hero in the game. Shadow Shaman performs a far different role than Lina, and with the nerf to deathball I don't think he's going to be nearly as popular. PotM is a better pick but you'd typically stick her in the offlane or keep her purely for roaming, not playing 1v1 vs another mid. She doesn't have much kit to contest farm and harass the other mid like Lina/QoP/OD. Veno has an arguably better 1v1 in mid, but again, push strats have gotten a huge nerf with refreshable glyph and less tower gold. VS/Bane/Bat fit different roles too, they're initiators. Lina is a nuker core that transitions to nuke+right click. I don't think she'll ever be good at initiating.

Again, we're not in disagreement here, she's an awful support, and an awful initiator. But that's not where I'm saying she belongs. She belongs in mid, zoning out the other mid and being able to exert a massive threat to carries before they come online.

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Firstly, most supports don't fall off that in the end game. Initiation, even single target, on cores can wreck the enemy team any day.
She's still not an initiator :S A stun doesn't make someone an initiator, there's other bits to that kit such as rapid movement, tankiness, etc. You don't pick Mirana for her arrow, you pick her because she's slippery as hell and Starfall is a gross AoE nuke and her ult gives great team utility. I don't consider her an initiator because she still needs a REAL initiator (like Bane or Shadow Demon) to setup her arrow dunks. Lina needs similar setup support as well, so it's not really in either ones favor.

Again, I'm not arguing Lina is currently a first class mid pick, but I don't think she's unpickable like some other heroes.

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950 pure nuke is highly situational and assumes that you've actually managed to farm the aghanims in the first place. And then you want DPS on top of that?
Aghs isn't that much to ask for on most mids now. Look at the current mid dominators, Razor/DP/Naga. They need Aghs or similar cost items to start really going (although DP is a bit less farm intensive). Naga is useless without Radiance, if you're making her a 3 and she doesn't get Radiance at a decent pace you've wasted a pick. Razor is useless in any lane outside of mid since his kit is all about being a dick to a single hero, typically a carry. Aghs is when he transitions to tower pusher.

What do other typical stawart mids need? Orchid (QoP/OD), BKB (Shadow Friend), Deso/BKB (TA). These are your current "snowball mids". I think the only real farm light mid is Veno, since Naix/Timber/Clock/DK haven't been mids in a long time. Tinker doesn't count since he lived in mid for the easy ancient stack. Really the only mid I think that simply outclasses Lina in every way is Viper, and Viper just kind of shits on everyone, it's his job. Although I think the Mek nerf is going to hurt him HARD.

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Good luck getting all that gold before the game ends. It doesn't help that aghs doesn't really help your autoattack at all.
Yeah, which is why I think it's more of a situational or 2nd/3rd item after something else core like Orchid or Mek/Euls. It's something you tack on after the game has dragged on, not something to rush. I mean, early game the extra range and pure damage isn't going to affect your utility as much. It's when things like BKBs become commonplace and eHP starts going through the roof from MR/armor would I consider going for it.

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Given Lina's lack of mobility and shitty animations, 650 range on autos isn't enough for Lina to be safe while autoattacking.
I think she really needs a MS boost, since that low MS makes her worthless in anything except a core role. It becomes a severe liability as a support since she can't get the farm or want to get things that mitigate it (phase/drum/euls).

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Sniper's strength comes in his 1k range and stupid attack/projectile animation. Lina doesn't come anywhere close to Sniper as a carry.
Honestly I have no reason why Sniper hasn't been picked at all in protier play. His kit is ridiculously good for what it was, and his only real liability (escapability) is covered by good teamwork and rotations. I guess it's because of other heroes that may not give the same things he does as well as he does, but give other things far more useful. Sniper's kit is geared strictly towards right clicking a single person to death. Merlini had a similar comment about Zeus, simply pro teams fall prey to flavor of the month and refuse to practice heroes outside their comfort zone.

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EDIT: Oh, and as mentioned above, even if you managed to farm 30k gold somehow you lose a shitton of DPS casting your crappy spells because of Lina's horrible cast animation.
Phase/Orchid/Deso is what, 1350 + 4125 + 4100 =  9575? That's not that unreasonable, and that's a HELL of a lot of damage at level 14-16 (which is typically where you'd end up at that point). We can argue that other heroes can do better with that same amount of gear and I wouldn't disagree with you, but there's far worse options and she has a lot more flexibility than say, a TA or Storm Spirit. And if she gets shut down, she still has her nukes and it's not like she ends up being a boat anchor. A shut down TA or Storm Spirit gives you nothing. I'm not sure a shut down QoP gives you anything either. OD is pretty much impossible to shutdown but he conversely needs a lot more before he can get stupid snowbally.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 26, 2014, 01:24:29 AM
I'm lazy so basically no.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on September 26, 2014, 01:33:59 AM
I'm lazy so basically no.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on September 26, 2014, 01:45:32 AM
I'm lazy so basically no.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 26, 2014, 01:46:19 AM
I'm lazy so basically no.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dular on September 26, 2014, 04:15:21 AM
Dear everyone:

Stop being dumb.

Lina's biggest issue is in fact her bad cast time and attack animation, which is why she has Fiery Soul and titanic attack range.  If they were improved, she'd probably be too good.  Even a .1 cast time improvement would be a big deal.

Like many other heroes, Lina brings something unique and has some large faults as well, like just about every other hero.  However, in the current pro scene, her faults are too big to offset her good parts, so she's never picked.

Lot's o' love
Dular
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on September 26, 2014, 06:02:10 AM
Fiery Soul sucks
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 26, 2014, 06:13:48 AM
Fiery SoulLina sucks
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on September 26, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
Fiery SoulLinaLion sucks
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 26, 2014, 07:14:47 AM
Fiery SoulLinaLionPugna sucks and also blows
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on September 26, 2014, 11:59:23 AM
Play 3 games; Lose all 3 and people blame new patch; AUS server best server.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on September 26, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
Is the punchline that the patch isn't even out yet?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: ActionDan on September 26, 2014, 04:50:05 PM
it's out I think.  terrain is bonkers
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: helvetica on September 26, 2014, 05:05:26 PM
FYI I hate all of you and am currently burning effigies of all of you.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 26, 2014, 11:11:48 PM
FYI I hate all of you and am currently burning effigies of all of you.
wat



I wish my team would guard runes for me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcyMF4wsNBY).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on September 27, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
In my game Techies brought a Gem only to use Suicide Squad moments later.

THIS IS HOW TRENCH I AM.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 27, 2014, 12:46:31 PM
Oh my god the new streak bonuses are so stupid.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on September 27, 2014, 12:54:29 PM
I, for one, enjoy the new runes and patch and terrain and tree.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on September 27, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
I just played Pheonix for the first time.

GOD I LOVE PHEONIX.

*Is offlane 2v1*

*ES comes to gank*

*Kills the PA and the ES and gets out alive*

KAAAW

Then of course this being the trench our allied Chen goes on a tyraide for some reason when get goes to Rosh and died alone wishes us all cancer after dying and abandons.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: PX on September 27, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
You know something I missed because I cannot play the hero to save my life?

Chen can take Ancient creeps with Ag's now.

And his ultimate fully heals them.

And he can have 3 with max rank R.

Yeeeah.

I miss when Chen could convert the ultimate Ancient: Kongor
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on September 27, 2014, 09:18:52 PM
Why is it every time I try to play Sven support [Storm stuns for kills, get Ags to pump people up] my entire team picks carries and leaves me to 1v3 in the safe lane and then somehow feeds anyway?
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Pesco on September 27, 2014, 10:16:49 PM
Just punch people if you're playing Sven. Dat manly base damage too smexy.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on September 28, 2014, 03:42:27 AM
I need better friends (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQ7EwMWeDQ).
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Raikaria on September 28, 2014, 01:10:08 PM
Well that Ogre game went well.

3/2/24 Brogre (http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/926961742)

Fed Tiny + Brogre using Bloodlust on him = Wrecking Ball.

My activity that game is shown by the fact that despite having the 2nd lowest GPM on our team [I outdid CM who had more CS however]; my EXP/min was almost level with the offlane Tidehunter and was above our Safe lane Bristle who I was supporting before I started to roam and gank.

And my Hero Damage was 2nd highest.

And yes I took Multicast at 7 on purpose. I didn't have the mana for a Multicast Fireblast at the time but I did have it for Rank 1 and that enabled a kill.

Also best moment of the game was grabbing an invis rune and completely wrecking a Tinker with it as our Tiny got his Blink. Ogre stun -> Toss-Avalanche combo = Dead Tinker. Wrecking Tinker is always fun.

Also seriously; what Dire Advantage? Looking at my Dotabuff stats I have a 43% winrate on Dire and 53% on Radiant.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on September 28, 2014, 02:06:52 PM
It's almost November guys. Shall the internet bombard Volvo again? ༼ つ◕_◕ ༽つ
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: yuyukos on September 28, 2014, 03:42:24 PM
It's almost November guys. Shall the internet bombard Volvo again? ༼ つ◕_◕ ༽つ
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Already confirmed in 6.82 patch blog for no Diretide this year, due to work on upcoming major patches.
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Zerviscos on September 28, 2014, 03:52:32 PM
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Already confirmed in 6.82 patch blog for no Diretide this year, due to work on upcoming major patches.
Let the bombardment to almost every part of the internet that's not even remotely related to Dota 2 nor Valve, begin!
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIFF DIRETIDE

Edit:
TBH I didn't play Diretide that much. The only real aim of people for Diretide is the items that come along with it. Like the 2 previous Baby Roshan couriers.
Cosmetics Doto is best Doto
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Bardiche on September 30, 2014, 10:45:03 PM
Diretide will never come this year ahahahahahahaha ;_;
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: Dormio Ergo Sum on October 01, 2014, 07:01:07 AM
Diretide is shit anyway.

https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,17467.0.html
Title: Re: Defence of the Ancients 2: Dreams go in, salt comes out. You can't explain that.
Post by: [Y]oukai [J]esus on October 01, 2014, 07:04:50 AM
Diretide is shit anyway.

Just like you and my Shadow Fiend Arcana.