Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Hakurei Shrine~ => Help Me, Eirin! => Topic started by: N-Forza on August 09, 2009, 04:11:16 PM
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I've been considering getting a nice, arcade-style stick for a while now, since even though I don't have a 360/PS3 yet, if I remember correctly they have USB ports so I might be able to use them with my computer.
However, before I drop the cash on one, I would like to know if this will work at all. I have PCB, IN, PoFV, and SWR, and I want to know if anyone has had any experience trying to get those games to work with either 360 or PS3 controllers in general.
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The controllers for 360 and PS3 are wireless and can be connected with the console through the use of USB cables that will serve as the recharger yes but if they'll work with your computer i don't know.
But... ehmm... were you considering getting a 360 or a PS3 just to play Touhou with the controllers?
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Sometimes I use My Xbox 360 wired controller to play games on my PC and it works with touhou, but you cannot use the sticks unless you get a seperate programs that allows you to configure your controller to be like keyboard presses. But ye it works, I still prefer using the keyboard though.
EDIT: From my experience I haven't been able to get my wireless controllers to work at all, Charger cable or not. So I would recommend getting a gamepad if you want to use it with your PC (or getting a xbox/ps3 controller).
I also have no experience with a PS3 controller, so I'm no help there.
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I use a strictly wired 360 controller, which will work on XP or Vista (maybe other OS'es, but I haven't tried any others) provided that you download the required driver (google "xbox 360 controller driver [operating system]", you'll find it easily enough as a download from Microsoft's website).
For the controllers that are wireless, I can't speak on my own experience for those. When I was looking into the idea myself, I never checked if charger cables will allow a wireless controller to interact in the same way as a wired controller. There is this (http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Wireless-Gaming-Receiver-Windows-Pc/dp/B000HZFCT2) for wireless 360 controllers, but it's a rather hefty pricetag, at about the cost of the controller itself.
If I need any additional help getting the controller to work, I use joytokey to configure the controller like the keyboard, as the previous post mentions. joytokey can also be used to adjust the sensitivity of your analog stick, which can be important for precision in games like Touhou.
But... ehmm... were you considering getting a 360 or a PS3 just to play Touhou with the controllers?
Just because he buys a controller doesn't mean he has to buy the console with it.
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I have a ps3 controller, and yes I got it to work with touhou.
I had to download (for free) a sixaxis driver from some "gamesake", along with something else. It's not exactly plug and play. It wasn't too much effort though.
I personally find though that I play touhou better with the keyboard more often than not though. It might just be because I'm more used to it (I didn't try the ps3 controller until I was fairly warmed up with Touhou). But I find it much easier to "tap" a move button to move just a little bit with a keyboard than using the analog sticks.
IN however is absolutely terrible with my ps3 controllers. you can just LOOK at the stick and your character moves, only with IN, go figure.
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actually, buying a Japanese 360 wouldn't be a bad investment
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IN however is absolutely terrible with my ps3 controllers. you can just LOOK at the stick and your character moves, only with IN, go figure.
Actually, you can also poke around with analog sensitivities in EoSD, PCB, IN, and SA individually. Go into a game's directory and open its custom application, and look for two options that say something like "pad play (1~1000)". The first box will be x-axis sensitivity, and the second box will be y-axis sensitivity (SA instead has a single sliding bar that controls both axes). In your case, Ghaleon, your IN sensitivity is probably a really low number, which would make it so you move if you so much as look at it. If you really want some fun, set those numbers to 1 and try playing it. Your character will appear more drunk than Suika.
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There are only 32-bit drivers for the PS3 controllers, so if you have Vista or something 64-bit it won't work.
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I have a wireless x360 controller and I used to play touhou with it when i first started.
It was good enough for beating the first two or three games on easy mode, but after a while when I started needing better precision I had to move to keyboards.
Although I'll try the tip Krim has mentioned above and see if it works for me.
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Well, I've been playing a lot of other shmups in the arcades around here and I like using a joystick a lot better than a keyboard or PS2 controller. Also, for fighting games like SWR I'd prefer to have a stick as well. I was thinking of getting one of those high-end Hori sticks but I completely forgot to check if they were wireless or not.
And yes, I do plan on getting a PS3 and a 360 at some point anyway.
At least it seems that there are methods to get both kinds of controllers to work. And I have 32-bit Vista if that makes a difference as far as driver compatibility goes.
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You can plug the 360 controller straight into your computer and it'll download the drivers and stuff automatically if you've got vista/7
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I went and installed the driver, plugged it in, and nothing happened.
It's recognized, and the light's flashing... My PS3 controller just won't work, apparently. :/
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If you're planning on using a PS2 converter, I'd recommend a Super Joy Box 3 Pro, I've never had any problems with it when I use my HRAP. It's quite cheap too.
If you happen to buy a Hori stick, all of them should be wired. I don't think they make wireless sticks.
Also, don't do what I did and buy a Fighting Stick instead of a HRAP, because last time I checked, they use rubber contacts for the buttons that wear out pretty quickly.
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I already have a PS2 converter that works perfectly, so now that I think about it I could get a stick for that as well... Thanks for reminding me, haha.
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actually, buying a Japanese 360 wouldn't be a bad investment
Why a Japanese one? I'd say its a good investment no matter which you get.
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I went and installed the driver, plugged it in, and nothing happened.
It's recognized, and the light's flashing... My PS3 controller just won't work, apparently. :/
yeah as I said it required 2 things. I'll search around for the 2nd one and let you know.
I remember having to download a registry file..blah.. where is it.
can't find it. But I found the video that shows you how.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fotFIDi7BHU
Pay attention to the more info on that site, there is a download not mentioned in the video you may need there (I think it's the reg file).
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Oh and don't think that you can just plug in a wireless controller with the play and charge kit, it doesn't work.
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actually, buying a Japanese 360 wouldn't be a bad investment
Why a Japanese one? I'd say its a good investment no matter which you get.
Most of the stuff (STGs) is region locked and never makes outside Japan.
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IN however is absolutely terrible with my ps3 controllers. you can just LOOK at the stick and your character moves, only with IN, go figure.
Actually, you can also poke around with analog sensitivities in EoSD, PCB, IN, and SA individually. Go into a game's directory and open its custom application, and look for two options that say something like "pad play (1~1000)". The first box will be x-axis sensitivity, and the second box will be y-axis sensitivity (SA instead has a single sliding bar that controls both axes). In your case, Ghaleon, your IN sensitivity is probably a really low number, which would make it so you move if you so much as look at it. If you really want some fun, set those numbers to 1 and try playing it. Your character will appear more drunk than Suika.
I tried playing around with the sliding bar of SA but it doesn't seem to affect the joystick in anyway. Even after setting the bar down to the very minimum, the dead zone is still there.
On the other hand though, the "pad play" thing from the other games works like a charm. Setting them to 100 is the most comfortable to me.
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I went and installed the driver, plugged it in, and nothing happened.
It's recognized, and the light's flashing... My PS3 controller just won't work, apparently. :/
yeah as I said it required 2 things. I'll search around for the 2nd one and let you know.
I remember having to download a registry file..blah.. where is it.
can't find it. But I found the video that shows you how.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fotFIDi7BHU
Pay attention to the more info on that site, there is a download not mentioned in the video you may need there (I think it's the reg file).
I just forgot to push the button in the middle.
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i use a HRAP3 (Hori real arcade stick pro) which is ps3 edition and works perfectly.
my experience with it is fine with toho on my linux and old windows box.
plug and play on windows.( it might need some adjustement on recent games but thats vwery easy from the control panel)
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How to use X360 gamepad's D-Pad for Touhou? Left stick movement is too loose.
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The 360's D-pad is awful; I wouldn't recommend it.
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The 360's D-pad is awful; I wouldn't recommend it.
Yes, I feel it too. But left stick also has a problem with accuracy. Perhaps decreasing input sensitivity would solve my problem.
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I already have a PS2 converter that works perfectly, so now that I think about it I could get a stick for that as well... Thanks for reminding me, haha.
FYI, depending on the converter, you might have certain issues, since some converters have input lag with different devices. For instance, my old converter worked perfectly fine with a PS2 dualshock, but once I plugged in my Hori stick, it was terrible.
Though there are plenty of stock 360/PS2 joysticks you can find..
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I have a wireless x360 controller and I used to play touhou with it when i first started.
It was good enough for beating the first two or three games on easy mode, but after a while when I started needing better precision I had to move to keyboards.
Although I'll try the tip Krim has mentioned above and see if it works for me.
How the hell did you connect a wireless 360 controller to your PC? PLEASE TELL and I shall do that immediately. I too always wanted to play Touhou and other stuff with my 360 controllers.
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I have a wireless x360 controller and I used to play touhou with it when i first started.
It was good enough for beating the first two or three games on easy mode, but after a while when I started needing better precision I had to move to keyboards.
Although I'll try the tip Krim has mentioned above and see if it works for me.
How the hell did you connect a wireless 360 controller to your PC? PLEASE TELL and I shall do that immediately. I too always wanted to play Touhou and other stuff with my 360 controllers.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox-Wireless-Controller-Windows-pc/dp/B000KA5T6A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251687419&sr=8-1
You need this:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31%2BfcDWCnuL._SS500_.jpg)
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If you're planning on using a PS2 converter, I'd recommend a Super Joy Box 3 Pro, I've never had any problems with it when I use my HRAP. It's quite cheap too.
I do this too (same adapter with HRAP2). Works perfectly for Touhou games.
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There are only 32-bit drivers for the PS3 controllers, so if you have Vista or something 64-bit it won't work.
Actually there's a 64-bit driver for the PS3 controllers now. You just need to unsign it if you run Vista because well, it's Vista.
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Well in the past i actually played SWR with my Arcade Controller (USB one, not one for 360 or PS3),whice i used ALOT back then (also for playing other games, including Stepmania - Well with the buttons), but then later changes to Gamepad because i could control it better. Haven?t got around playing the STG yet, through.
EDIT:
this (http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-Wireless-Gaming-Receiver-Windows-Pc/dp/B000HZFCT2) for wireless 360 controllers, but it's a rather hefty pricetag, at about the cost of the controller itself.
5 new from $48.49 1 used from $360.00
:V What?
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I have a wireless x360 controller and I used to play touhou with it when i first started.
It was good enough for beating the first two or three games on easy mode, but after a while when I started needing better precision I had to move to keyboards.
Although I'll try the tip Krim has mentioned above and see if it works for me.
How the hell did you connect a wireless 360 controller to your PC? PLEASE TELL and I shall do that immediately. I too always wanted to play Touhou and other stuff with my 360 controllers.
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Xbox-Wireless-Controller-Windows-pc/dp/B000KA5T6A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1251687419&sr=8-1
You need this:
Oh that. That was why I didn't do it before. I completely forgot about that stupid thing. Thanks, anyways. I might as well get a wired controller someday.
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I borrowed a friend's wired 360 controller and used the XBCD driver. Both the dpad and stick were horrible for Touhou but your mileage may vary.
Laptop keyboard for life.. minimum response time since the keys are so flat heh.
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One day I'm gonna be so bored I'll try playing Touhou with my DDR pad.
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One day I'm gonna be so bored I'll try playing Touhou with my DDR pad.
You just blew my mind! You have unlocked Psychopath difficulty.. it's kinda hidden there behind Lunatic, stalking it.
There's so many th dance/trance/techno remixes. Grab a whole set for the game you're playing and stomp away!
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One day I'm gonna be so bored I'll try playing Touhou with my DDR pad.
I tried playing PCB with my Rock Band drums once, using the four drums for directions and the kick pedal for shooting. Aside from the obvious handicap of wtfcontroller, there was the lack of a bomb button (unless I taped down z and used the pedal for bombing, which I didn't feel like doing), moving really s-l-o-w because the drums can't be held down for constant movement, and the lack of a focus button (which you'd only use to focus power on bosses, because of the aforementioned sluggish movement).
I didn't get very far.
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Laptop keyboard for life.. minimum response time since the keys are so flat heh.
Laptop keyboards can be a crapshoot. On my sister's laptop (I think it was a Sony Vaio), it wouldn't register any more than 2 keys simultaneously pressed, so if I was shooting, I couldn't move diagonally, only in 1 of the 4 basic directions. On the other hand, I had no problems with my dad's HP laptop.
Regardless, my preference is a good stick.
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I stopped using my laptop's keyboard due to fear of breaking the arrows with stepmania. Also, I managed to make my desk tidier(not by much, though, it's still a mess).
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I've been using a crappy Logitec 10 dollar USB controller to play Touhou, and it's been working just time. It's pretty beat up, so i'm planning on getting a new one soon.
For the fighting games, Mystical Chain, etc, I use the SFIV Tournament Edition 360 stick (wired), which I managed to get working with Microsoft drivers + Pinnacle. I tried playing Touhou on it, but after playing on a pad so much it's weird to play with an arcade stick.
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On my sister's laptop (I think it was a Sony Vaio), it wouldn't register any more than 2 keys simultaneously pressed
Hrm that's weird. I'm on a 2005 Thinkpad and it's fine.
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I have a ps3 controller, and yes I got it to work with touhou.
I've got my computer to read my controller and see the buttens but after I map the buttens to all the moves it auto-resets them to the keyboard. Do you know how to fix this?
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I did buy a Leadership USB controller AND OH HELL IT'S SO GAY white and transparent with blue lights and shit.
Really good and responsive, though.
Still, I decided Touhou is best played on keyboard.
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I've got my computer to read my controller and see the buttens but after I map the buttens to all the moves it auto-resets them to the keyboard. Do you know how to fix this?
both keyboard and ps3 controller work at the same time for me when it works... I assume you tried the controls menu in-game? I don't really know how to help sorry.
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I use my 360 controller only for SWR, and I have my keys mapped as follows
A: Melee attack
B: Weak Magic
X: Strong Magic
Y: Flight/Graze
LB: Cycle Deck
RB: Activate Spell