You win when all threats to the town have been killed.This is the town win condition, so as to discourage possibility of clears via pm wording, as that falls under Rule 8 but can't be helped.
Oh dear. I hope the wolves don't get anyone tonight.
I wish oh wish I knew where my sheep were.
>Living Players
13.Megaman.EXE (...a megaman movie? He says there was one. Whatever.)
Question. Why do you want people to make noise and get needlessly off track, effectivly extending the RVS, Alpha 60?
##Unvote:
##Vote: Alpha 60
@Mod: How many people does it take to lynch? Could you include it in your votecounts?Oh oops. Sorry about that! 8 to lynch, dear.
The alternative is not filling out the form. Capt. Li didn't though this doesn't mean he himself is furthering town agenda to end RVS.
I am worried about this form because you have asked people to fill out questions and then have proceeded to not do a thing with them. Thus you are encouraging useless noise from people which allows them to waltz in, answer the quiz, effectively not say anything at all and leave.
Until you show us what you're using your data forms for, I won't be filling one out.
The logical thing to do here would be to settle the discrepancy. Why didn't you? BeerDuff, is your ##Eat: Gold action meaningful? Answer yes or no.
That said, his other reasoning is sound and while I accept Li's hop to the wagon for reasoning equal to mine BeerDuff's hop was less than optimal. His blatant hop with a hint of trapping (the mod ignored his action completely, yet he's acting as if it does something and I'm thinking the only reason for this is to bash the poor sucker to ask what it does) is enough to place Beer over Alpha.
Am I allowed to punch people yet?
I already told you we aren't able to do that, being good fairies and all.
So, knowing that Alpha got beaten for unvoting first of all and that you held suspicion of him yet there wasn't a place where you dropped it, what on earth drove you to make that unvote post just now?
And why only address one point against you?
Duff Beer is naught but an alcoholic beverage, and has no idea what to think, as it can only really impede thoughts. And having said that, everyone looks townie right now,
"Proceed to not do a thing with them" is a grave exaggeration. What exactly were you expectingSo look, no that was not a grave exaggeration.
The last line of your post bugs me the most and smells of scumitude. It's a more or less a rolefish that I'm made to answer if I am to "defend" my questionnaire.Known as misrep. I wanted to know if it was all flavor and fun like Kanji assumed or if it was role related which if you had said that after I asked you earlier we wouldn't be dragging this out.
Orrr he could claim 3rd party and you all know how to treat those right?
You want proof that Alpha dude is townie? He just is bro. Followed by blatant pressure to roleclaim. That's also not cool.That is obviously not proof of townieness. Otherwise I'm townie for being bro with "Insertrandomplayerhere". Provide proof -> Profit. That wasn't pressure for a roleclaim at all. He said he had conditions to fulfil, so I asked what they were. I would've accepted any answer really. Even if he had said he would rather not tell (though I probably would've questioned him a bit more if he did that, but that's just me). Although I didn't really find that to be a good enough answer for me to answer the questionairre.
@Merryweather:And who was this reffering to?
Krabs, asking people why they think someone is town is not productive for town.I asked because Duffman was so sure that Alpha was town. It even lead to him doing a chainsaw defense on Capt. Li. Surely if someone is that certain of someone being town (especially this early in the game) then it would be highly questionable.
What about Capt. Li's vote is foolish to you?
Give backing or my vote will stay longer (this implies that my vote is staying where it is for now, which it is).##Unvote
Duffman said more then that in the first place. Alpha is quite townie. That's why it's foolish. Just follow Duffman to townie victory.That was just a summary of the important parts of the posts in question.
@Capt. Li: Duff Beer can add to his case all he wants, but I will only switch off if he can get a solid stance with some solid reasons. Also voting someone is still pressuring them, because a vote puts them closer to lynch. And if he tries to imitate other people, than that means he is scum going by your words.If that truly is what you believe, then you underestimate the enemy. The flaw with your position is that scum has no difficulty sounding logical and creating their own cases, especially with their fellow men backing them up from their camp. Your vote is pathetic in the field of battle because you would withdraw it as soon as your target proves they can stand for themself, and this shows a lack of desire for victory. Tell me, if Duff Beer were to enter the thread right now and post substantial content, who would your vote be on given that you would have no place to park it? Would you just disarm yourself entirely?
It's the same reason I dislike the way you're defending your vote, it sounds like you're far too interested in making sure we know your vote was justified at the time and it's totally okay that you're not voting him now. Town shouldn't care how good they look.The orange was attacking my vote, so I elaborated on said vote in the last three sentences of my first paragraph to respond to it. How is this caring too much about how I look? Townies don't want their fellow soldiers to attack them because it is time spent not focusing on the enemy. There is nothing wrong with maintaining a defense of myself if need be.
The flaw with your position is that scum has no difficulty sounding logical and creating their own cases, especially with their fellow men backing them up from their camp.This makes sense if Duff Beer was town, and now that I think about it, because of what you said, he is more likely town. Because based on that sentence, he either has really bad scumbuddies, or is town. If he can sound logical and can create his own cases then why isn't he doing so? If he's a bad scum player who can't creat good cases then that could mean his buddies aren't helping him at all, or they aren't online while he is. I find this first one unlikely due to stupidity, and I find the second one unlikely due to the fact I can't see it happening at all. So the real flaw is your counterpoint to me, because if scum can make well fleshed out cases filled with good logic, then why hasn't he done so? I would still like Duff Beer to make a better case anyway.
Tell me, if Duff Beer were to enter the thread right now and post substantial content, who would your vote be on given that you would have no place to park it? Would you just disarm yourself entirely?
Hmmm... I don't like Duffman even more now, but I still think he's townie, because me not liking him is more to do with frustration.I might just point out that this is prety much in order of who I think is scummiest.
I don't like Orange either, he has said little, and hasn't even elaborated much on his views. Why is "so-and-so" looking good? Why is "so-and-so" looking bad? Please answer these questions Orange.
I don't exactly like Bardiche either, he hasn't even made much posts yet, and with the posts he has done, he has said little of use. He has barely mentioned anything about the majority of players, and has said little about the players he did mention.
##Vote:Bardiche
I have a few so far, town can go bananas if they want.
@Mr Krabs: Be gone from my sight, abomination!
Your lack of confidence will be the downfall of you.
If you know you'll get voted for it, why the hell do it at all?Funny thing is, people say townies don't care how they look to other people. You should probably listen to that advice, it could help you in the long run.
@Merryweather: I personally thought that your line of questioning was as unproductive and could only lead to answers indicative of role and not of alignment, which is merely a distraction at this stage of the game. Also, some questions you asked were not valid in the first place (e.g Why are you encouraging people to not contribute?) and did not seem to me as useful pressure.Fair enough. I had figured that the votes accumulated regardless of how the votes looked may have led into his mind with town or scum intent. But he gave a scummy response anyway.
In other news, Alpha is being confusing for discounting Li and Duff Beer and voting Merryweather, when the reasons Li and Merry had at that point in time were pretty similar. I'm also interested in why Alpha is accusing Merry of rolefishing when much of the playerbase has already voiced out that they wanted to know what the data form was used for, making it seem rather like selective scumhunting. Combine this with him discarding the Duff Beer case on a whimsy (e.g someone saying that everyone looks townie is normally quite scummy), and I can't get a hold on his thought processes and cases.Does him being confusing and not following your assumed townie logic make him scummy?
scum is quite capable of imitating a wise ally if it will ward off votes.
And if he does try to imitate other people to get my vote off him, then that means he is scum going by your words. (bolded for even more emphasis)
The flaw with your position is that scum has no difficulty sounding logical and creating their own cases, especially with their fellow men backing them up from their camp.
If he can sound logical and can create his own cases then why isn't he doing so?Notice anything yet?
Mr. Krab's vote pattern is annoying. I accept his Duff Beer vote, but when Li accuses him of parking, he suddenly changes his mind, forgets any other suspicions he might have wrote about in his 30 or something posts (gosh!), and makes a bad vote on Bardiche. He's had better suspicions, and yet he votes for the guy with not enough posts telling him to post after he's gone for at least half a day. That's not the end of it too - in fact, do I really need to explain how terrible his transition to Li was? No, people have alerady done this. Stop giving us 'hints', give us your reasoning instead. Also, unless you change your avatar / JOB improves it, I'll be calling you Mr. Krubs. Nitpicky, but I don't care :cI call it playing along. He wanted me to say who I would have voted for next, so I voted who I would have voted for next.
Li is scummy because he contradicted his own logic this is scummy because he is attacking me for bad logic, yet when I follow his logic, he makes counterpoints against them (not the fact that I was using his logic, but the actual logic itself).In other words he is just a silly scum who is attacking himself.
Your next-in-line was Bardiche? You've never mentioned Bardiche in any of your posts before the one you voted for him in, you've mentioned suspicions on other players, and even when putting these facts aside, your post doesn't do your Bardiche vote much justice. To me it looks like an easy vote pick, something that is done without much thought put into it. This strengthens my opinion that you weren't "playing along", but were legitimately scared of Li's votepark accusation.If I was scared of his votepark accusation I would have voted someone else the first time he mentioned it.
I might just point out that this is prety much in order of who I think is scummiest.
Gut
Leaning scum.
Leaning scum even more.
It's because it's true. Other than DuffBeer, everyone DOES look townie, even Merryweather. Active participation and logically thought out posts look townie.
Back to reading everything all over again~.Barney appearing to gab without a vote looks much worse now that he's disappeared and at the time of his first content post had read the entire thread yet didn't smack a vote down. How much longer is your vote going to hide?
Mr. Krab's vote pattern is annoying. I accept his Duff Beer vote, but when Li accuses him of parking, he suddenly changes his mind, forgets any other suspicions he might have wrote about in his 30 or something posts (gosh!),Do you feel this is a point worth pushing Mr. Krabs, or Captain Li over more? And whichever you answer, for what reason do you believe so?
As is, I retain my displeasures with the crab. The first paragraph of his #76 looks like he wants to hold to his case, so his choice to retreat and switch to voting the battleaxe reads as appeasement to me. People were attacking his vote, so even though he wants to stand by it as shown with his post, he switches anyway so people will back off. [...] I do not consider Bardiche's vote to be a votepark because it does not look like he intends to throw his suspicions away without a struggle.But Mr. Krabs did struggle, Honey. He wrestled with himself over your logic for why Duffbeer was not scum, and simply didn't have the self-confidence nor the ignorance needed to win that struggle. It seems to me he changed his opinion more out of awe for your strength, than fear of where you pointed your weapon. I don't see why his willingness to admit he was wrong and backing down to look for alternate avenues is more scummy than something like the proposed intentions of Bardiche's "Never backing down." If one scum backed down every time he realized he was wrong, he'd never be able to vote for anyone.
@Barney: It was an on the spot reaction. I picked people who I could make a quick case against so I could keep playing along. Except Duffman who I have had a bad gut read on all game. It doesn't mean that I don't find Mandarin Orange and Bardiche scummy at all (because I still think they could be scum), it just means that they were an easy target.Let's look at the facts. Krabs votes Duff Beer early, eventually backs up his vote and goes a certain period of time without changing said vote. He gets called out for vote parking by Li Shang, and as a defense, explains that he's waiting for him to defend himself. Li capitalizes on this, explaining how that defense is bad (which it is). Krabs replies in his #76 by.. saying that Duff Beer suddenly seems town, based on Li's logic (the same logic he bases his case on him around). He then completely discards his accusations and votes for Bardiche, which we have learned is an 'easy pick'.
This makes sense ifThis was in response to Li. Ironicly enough, I didn't buy this reasoning for Beer, but I think it applies to Krab himself.Duff BeerKrabs was town, and now that I think about it, because of what you said, he is more likely town. Because based on that sentence, he either has really bad scumbuddies, or is town. If he can sound logical and can create his own cases then why isn't he doing so? If he's a bad scum player who can't creat good cases then that could mean his buddies aren't helping him at all, or they aren't online while he is. I find this first one unlikely due to stupidity, and I find the second one unlikely due to the fact I can't see it happening at all. So the real flaw is your counterpoint to me, because if scum can make well fleshed out cases filled with good logic, then why hasn't he done so? I would still likeDuff BeerKrabs to make a better case anyway.
What about Krabs makes you feel he's Town?
how easy would it to be to get a scumbuddy to comment on "Li's logic and contadictions".I'm sure if Mr. Krabs was scum, he would have had a much easier time of it than he does in this game.
I don't get Bo Peep here. What about Krabs makes you feel he's Town?
-could be a repeat of Go Planet from last game.
Let's look at the town perspective: Krabs has a little debate with Li before unvoting, and voting for an easy pick, both done with iffy reasoning. He then waits a few posts and claims that it was all a show, while "revealing" his case on Li which he has still yet to explain clearly. Nothing of worth has happened between these posts. Why would town!Krabs do this? I'm honestly not seeing any other option but his being wary of Li's accusation, which town!Krabs shouldn't have been wary of. Meanwhile, scum!Krabs makes a lot more sense - being overdefensive resulting in an ill-thought change of votes, which is followed by an attempt to cover for the mistake. Am I the only one seeing this? I was pondering a lot about this but now I can't see it any other way.Forcing there to only be one reason for a townie to do anything is rebleepin'diculous. Townies are strange and do all manner of things. Krabs has done bad play and you have spun this into an "OMG town wouldn't do this, must be scum." You really can't see any other reason for a townie to do this?
DuffBeer, at the time of your vote for me, could you tell me your thought process? Otherwise your original vote of me and your unvote now looks like a disconnect without explanation."Alpha 60's questionnaire looks annoying and I don't really see what town motivated purpose it serves." However, on that note, there was no real scum motivation either, other than making noise, and therefore I decided to vote for you for making noise. I also got cut by #32 when I was posting, which looked a lot better since it seemed like a push towards actual discussion.
Aside from borrowing my reason on the Orange about scum linking, please tell us why you think he's the supreme evil and why we shouldn't lynch Barney.Excuse me? Who's borrowing whose reasoning now? Duffman has been pushing the Orange this entire day. If anyone could possibly be borrowing reasoning in this conversation it would be you. Duffman hasn't really been reading your posts anyways! Duffman doesn't need to look at his waifus!
I don't buy the logic in his 119 that scum would blatantly talk and make such connections to each other by explaining each other's cases.
Accusing Krabs of making a case so his scumbuddies can run in and be all helpful is a thing. See, scum don't actually want to look linked to each other. Or talk to each other. Talking to each other always looks fake. So let's pretend this is what actually happened. Where's his bros providing the logic? Duffman just sees a bunch of partygoing townies bashing him.Tell me that isn't the same point on Orange with just more ~words~
Duffman is still not feeling righteous about the Mandarin. Duffman explained why it isn't just gut. Accusing Krabs of making a case so his scumbuddies can run in and be all helpful is a thing. See, scum don't actually want to look linked to each other. Talking to each other always looks fake. So let's pretend this is what actually happened.Merry and you both make this point and it's viable, but so is scum actively working together, which is why it's futile to theorize what scum is doing.
Where's his bros providing the logic? Duffman just sees a bunch of partygoing townies bashing him.Exactly, which means that since no one was helping him with his case, I think he's a solo act.
What makes him worse then the other five people cheerleading Krabs? Like that Orange dude.Which means I wasn't cheerleading, because I think Krabs is town; even if I don't think much of his "logic and contradictions" case, he remains logically consistent to himself in an iso-read.
Krabs explains this by claiming he was going for Li all along and that he changed votes to Bardiche only because he was "playing along". I didn't buy this earlier, and I don't buy this now. Let's look at the town perspective: Krabs has a little debate with Li before unvoting, and voting for an easy pick, both done with iffy reasoning. He then waits a few posts and claims that it was all a show, while "revealing" his case on Li which he has still yet to explain clearly. Nothing of worth has happened between these posts. Why would town!Krabs do this? I'm honestly not seeing any other option but his being wary of Li's accusation, which town!Krabs shouldn't have been wary of. Meanwhile, scum!Krabs makes a lot more sense - being overdefensive resulting in an ill-thought change of votes, which is followed by an attempt to cover for the mistake. Am I the only one seeing this? I was pondering a lot about this but now I can't see it any other way.TownKrabs could do this because he was suspicious of Li (like most townies are of people that are not them) and see if he could get a scummy reaction, which Krabs seems to think he found. I don't have the ability to read into motives, and the way you're shoehorning Krabs is not something I can follow.
Krabs is looking pretty Kruppy with his #52 and #54 rolefishing, then his weird case on Li which seems like a stretch. The interesting point though, is the way he formed the case, he called on town to notice something he did; how easy would it to be to get a scumbuddy to comment on "Li's logic and contadictions".Here you are assuming a scum!Krabs and conjecturing on your fancy and no where do you explicitly state that you thought krabs was town. (You quote something krabs said and made a point that krab's logic could apply to town krabs. However this is not at all saying that you ACTUALLY think krabs is town).
Merry and you both make this point and it's viable, but so is scum actively working together, which is why it's futile to theorize what scum is doing.You are critizing Duffman for taking umbrage with your conjecturing whilst still trying to validate your conjecturing assuming scum!krabs.
My vote will effectively count as on BarneyThat means Barney has technically been pseudo lynched.
I am satisfied with Mandarin Orange.Capt Li. what do you think of this? Bardiche voted Orange for one or two reasons and didn't really bother with him until that. In on of his posts he actually make (some kind of) a case against me, which is easily better than his Orange case, yet he continues to vote Orange. He mentions Orange for the third time in his posts by asking a question. Orange answers the question, and Bardiche unvotes and claims that he is satisfied.
I share the opinion of Merryweather and Li that Barney was not testing the waters for town support.No, I earlier agreed with the notion that Barney WAS testing waters for town support so I'm going to write this down as a questionable action.
The fact that his Li suspicion just flew out the window just makes him worse.Still a thing. That you have yet to mention Li or follow up the strong suspicions you held on him from earlier is getting worse.
Why did Saki jump off of him while claiming that people "don't see the case" when the Krabs wagon clearly still had support? This confuses me.
I want an explanation: why is THIS not "cheerleading and jumping on a 'safe' wagon"?
Please tell me, how in the world did you reach this conclusion?
Why did we have to say those words? Does that make us not targets for your vig?
So I'm asking you, Are you planning to vig someone by the end of the day?
@Mod: Will vigging someone reset the votecounts?
I don't follow your reasoning for not placing your vote on the thing that struck out at you on a first re-read, and why you'd read the thread again after that. Can you explain? Why didn't you place a vote on someone you thought was scummy before rereading everything (again)?As you wish. I read through the thread, and Krabs' behavior catches my eye, so I post about it. However, I wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything else that might be worse, so I checked again. This is my best explanation. Sorry if you were expecting something else.
As you wish. I read through the thread, and Krabs' behavior catches my eye, so I post about it. However, I wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything else that might be worse, so I checked again. This is my best explanation. Sorry if you were expecting something else.
SAKI. WHO DO YOU REALLY WANT TO DIE. "Quickly becoming" translates to "wait and see".Cut by this. Does this post answer your question?
Would you be willing to vote Orange or not. please don't beat around the bush.
As for Duff Beer, I think his three points (which I don't necessarily agree with) redeemed himself partially and gave validity to his jump on Barney, which is far more than what Saki or Orange can say.
Barney, why do you think Duff Beer's case on you is dumb if some people (for example, initially Merryweather), have agreed with his cheerleading point? Doesn't this give more validity to Beer's case than you seem to be acknowledging? It affects the very foundation of your case.For reference:
Why Duff Beer dislikes the purple dinosaur:The part you seem to be referring to as a "cheerleading accusation" is the latter. I've already cast doubt on this accusation because, inbetween my initial accusation and my vote, no real change in opinion for the worse happened in regards to Krabs. Not only that, but Duff Beer bases his accusation off of the false fact that I had waited for 3 votes before posting, something that Merryweather did not do. And even if this was a valid point, he's parroting.
- #96: Are you saying that the reasoning was invalid? Especially when, in the very next paragraph, you yourself say that you dislike Alpha 60 for the exact same reasons.
- #96: Random poke of Gilgamesh, doesn't ask for clarification, doesn't specify what part of Gilgamesh's post he doesn't understand. He just says "What the hell is Gilgamesh doing" and leaves it at that. We don't even know what he really thinks of Gilgamesh.
- #96: Makes a case on Mr. Krabs, but doesn't actually vote until #115, after 3 other people have already voted for him.
The thing is that he drops everything to go after Mr. Krabs. He never mentioned Gilgamesh, Alpha 60, or myself again.
#96: Random poke of Gilgamesh, doesn't ask for clarification, doesn't specify what part of Gilgamesh's post he doesn't understand. He just says "What the hell is Gilgamesh doing" and leaves it at that. We don't even know what he really thinks of Gilgamesh.[/color]
Saki, why did you agree with Barney's opinions before proceeding to vote him?
And why did you change your vote from Krabs to Barney just because you saw no one agreeing with you?
[16:07] <Serela> oh I was making a votecount and I hit previewSerela has school and has to sleep sometimes, and so can't guarantee any votecounts from self between 10pm and 4pm EST on weekdays. Sorry! :C In other news be grateful that K4U gave you one! :3
[16:07] <Serela> and there one is
[16:07] <Serela> and I'm like "what D:"
@Alpha: Krabs said he'd have lynched me if not for Merry's bitchslaps (read: L-1). I'd like to see an update on his stance, though.
I'll be gone in an hour or two. I would obviously want to see Duff Beer's claim before he gets shot, though, and something makes me doubt he'll be posting in the next hour.
Did someone ask Serela that clarification about vigs or did Serela confirm his role on his own? :VIt was a question asked by several people whether the votecount would or would not reset upon someone being vigged. I answered.
WHO HERE HAS ALLITERATIVE NAMES!
##Sealing Form, set upThis? Explain now.
Personally, I would give both of them one chance to convince you to not shoot them. However, the choice goes down to you. And I would do it before the end of the day rush starts, as adding more chaos would not be advisable for town. I would shoot Gil, as even as worthless as he is, he still can provide some connections.
About the pills, DuffBeer, do you want Bo Peep and Duffman to eat them?Well, that's the plan.
Does that mean Alpha doesn't want to righteously destroy Kanji on a whim?
Two and a half hours left:|
One hour left.
Also Duffbeer, you seem to have like.. a trillion pills.Close, but I think I have a few more than that.
Captain Li is also quite curious for specially going after Mr.Krabs for 'vote-parking' when he had already given a quite valid reason and a bit of token questioning (in comparison with everyone else) for voting Duff Beer. How is announcing your intention to consider backing off if your suspect makes more reasonable statements scummy, exactly, if both townies and scum are capable of doing just that? It's very metaphysical, like the sake before me. Also, attacking him for not having an alternative at that point of time is strange since many others (such as me) did not have one either. It all seems curiously selective.Since he actively defends him, though here's the thing. He makes a pass at Barney and Li at seperate times.
If I were here earlier, I would not have understood the Barney case one bit; witholding a vote for the duration of one other vote doesn't seem like the obvious cheerleading people place it as (see Orange), and despite perhaps the shoddy rhetoric (e.g only scum!Krabs can do this and that), he does have a pretty original and well-thought out case on Krabs, as well as some side-opinions on Duff Beer and Alpha. However, the last post he made almost gave me liver cancer, since he's effectively voting Duff Beer for being 1) 'dumb' (when others including Merryweather had agreed with Duff Beer's cheerleading point, giving his reasons some validity which Barney did not address) and 2) pushing bandwagons for shady reasons, especially his, neither of which have been explained by him as worse than Krabs' over-defensiveness. Leads me to suspect that he never really believed in the Krabs case at all.The interactions here just feel to strange for comfort. He has a much better case and points on Barney here than he does on Orange yet he votes Orange over Barney. My thoughts on this are that Barney was a potential lynch canidate at this time and he may have swung the wagon to Barney's favor with a vote on him.
[after he votes Orange]
Barney, why do you think Duff Beer's case on you is dumb if some people (for example, initially Merryweather), have agreed with his cheerleading point? Doesn't this give more validity to Beer's case than you seem to be acknowledging? It affects the very foundation of your case.
>V-V-V-Votecount! SERELAAAAAAAAAAA editionHis vote park on Beer untill the end of the day while cheerleading on the Orange bandwagon do not do him any favors whatsoever.
Mandarin Orange (5): Duffman, Alpha60, Merryweather, Saki Morimi, Kanji Watanabe
Barney (4): Bo Peep, Duff Beer, Megaman.EXE, Mandarin Orange
With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. Mandarin Orange is at L-3. Barney is at L-4.
6~ hours left in the day. No Majority means No Lynch.
Link to Countdown for D1 Deadline (http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=&month=10&day=25&year=2011&hour=22&min=&sec=&p0=745)
Let's see... the Orange? I don't know what to think. The fact he didn't vote bothered me at the time (and still does), his wagon vote bugs me, and yet nothing is giving me the "he's scum, get him" vibes. Could be because some of his arguments make sense, despite his actions not making sense. Yeah, I don't know.
@Merryweather: Currenty, Krabs. I stand by my logic from earlier, seeing as I have yet to think it is not sound. I'd want to keep an eye out for Orange, and others like Bardiche/Gilgamesh/Megaman that didn't get enough of my attention, but currently, this.
Since neither of them are showing up, how is Orange kill / Beer lynch a better idea? Asking for everyone on the Orange wagon to vote Beer is terrible and most likely won't work.He had the chance to switch and at the very fucking least make a comment on Orange besides weak waffles but he didn't, these now look heinous.
Duff Beer. Duffman wants to know if your red pill has anything to do with Bo Peep's death. Duffman can't imagine Bo Peep being high on a normal priority list.
It's possible the red pill killed her and scum targetted me last night.I gave the red pill to Duff Man. The blue pill went to Bo Peep. And no, neither the red nor blue pill can kill someone.
Duffbeer, clearing some things up around now would be rather nice. Specifically, what pills DO you know, and what are their current fates?I know the effects of all the primary colors, and basic combinations thereof. I don't feel like revealing what the red or blue pill does.
I'm not quite sure why Dufman and Bo peep didn't ingest their pills and why Duffbeer kept eating fake pills whilst giving the red and blue bills to Bo peeo/Duff man which wre the two people he didn't like at the time. Like why didn't you tell them to eat them earlier?When did I say that I didn't like Duff Man?
Currently every pill, bar the red one, is in my possession. This includes the blue pill, which I gave to Bo Peep in D1. Turns out that if the person holding the pill dies without having used it, I get it back from them.Oh, I don't have the brown pill and the ones that I ate either.
His end of day behaviour is strange for me because he asks for an abridged version of "why is Mandarin scum?", and then swifthammers Mandarin 40 minutes before deadline: it struck me as ample time to still get that abridged version if he had any interest in it, so I'm not sure why Bardiche asked if he doesn't care whether Mandarin was or was not scum anyway?
Explain please, Bardiche.
tl;dr Bardiche has been waffling yesterday, commenting only on the popular wagons. He has said literally nothing of anyone else, and hasn't been pro-active in scumhunting either, rather much seemingly examining existing wagons and commenting on them.
I like the RRRRRRRRRROLES! part of yesterday. Everybody who was eager to contribute made me all fuzzy in my heart. The people that didn't show up so readily made me ANGER because I wanted to make a good decision with my Vig. I was primarily pissed with Krabs, but also Barney, Bo Peep, and Bardiche as well. All I did last night was try to role speculate people while rereading DuffBeer, Kanji, Bardiche, Li's orange vote, and half of Bo peep. At one point I actually thought Bo peep specifically was a jail keeper. I think that thought lasted for an instant.
... Christ, does anyone else feel like most of yesterday was all RRRRRRRRRROLES! and most of today thus far is uh... lazy? Seriously, it's been a few hours and I only see Merryweather's done any homework?
cut by someone asking to hammer, which is what is going through my mind as well
2) There was no way anyone else was gonna get lynchedFirst you say this, but then you say this in the next paragraph.
And there was still a day left, so saying the Krabs lynch being impossible is quite an overstatement.How is there no way anybody else was going to get lynched despite you saying that my lynch was not impossible?
he feels the need to label Mr. Krabs as a misguided townie.Just like everyone else in this game (well, mostly everyone else). So it's not really a good point.
Mr. Krab's jump off me in #76 is terribad.
I mean, if you're the type that uses votes to pressure, wouldn't it have made more sense to vote for Orange?
"I'm actually quite confident I've got something here. Whether it's scum or not it's certainly very interesting." lolwut?
You say that you think that Duffman, Orange, and Bardiche are scum, only to switch to Li Shang.
Also, what is that "easy target" crap in #106?
#155 What happened to your dislike of Duffman? It just kind of disappeared into the air.
Merryweather said that she thought Barney was town after he posted that wall after his long absence, why are you suddenly suspicious of him now? I thought you said you were suspicious of Bardiche in the post where you voted Barney today. All you actually have is one line and three quotes about Barney.I'm glad you don't read what I write.
Kanji has been an early town read for me, and I'm not seeing any reason to shoot him as is. Elaborate?
And there was still a day left, so saying the Krabs lynch being impossible is quite an overstatement.
6) There was plenty of time for people to post an abridged version of the case. Nobody bothered, it was just random role stuff
Bardiche, I'm going to need some words from you here because as of know I'm seeing you as one of my suspects.I read the case, and I assumed that because you hadn't mentioned Barney before you made the case, and you mentioned other people's actions towards Barney instead of his own, that it wasn't a case on Barney but one on Bardiche instead. Sorry about that.
I will admit interactions with Kanji and Krabs make me no like him anymore:[/color]
Krabs posted in late D1 even less than Beer. Actually, he didn't post at all, something that isolated my bad read on him nicely.Oh god this is hilarious, I wasn't even there after you came on. I was away/sleeping.
All I'm seeing from his D2 is a big mess so far. He posts suspicions on Bardiche and Beer. He didn't bother to highlight which of the two he thinks is worse, and if anything, his last remark on Bardiche made me think it was Beer before his vote proved otherwise. Without a good explanation on why Bardiche is worse, I see this as bandwagoning.
Also, Bardiche claimed his supposed role and claimed to be RB'd. Krabs hasn't really done anything, making Bardiche easier to link stuff to when stuff pops up.Merryweather said she didn't want anyone claiming, if she says it's fine for today, and enough people ask, I will claim, but only in a dire situation.
Mr. Krabs shows that he did not have a particular time problem with his abundance of posts, and he manages to act just as bad (or worse) than Bardiche.I'm normally away for around 16 hours on weekdays. Does that excuse my downtime? Because that is the majority of your case on me.
how obvscum were my actions with this considered? My vote on Beer was bound to changeNope, not a valid retort. You didn't so there ya go.
seeing as there was not enough people behind it at the timewhen you posted, the people weren't there so where are you going with this?
Duff Beer (1): BarneyI am not buying that logic for one second that you couldn't comment on any of the other wagons when you were the sole supporter of your lynch.
. But, to be frank, there was well enough firepower for the likely Orange lynch, so there was no "town is lacking in votes" rush. With the vig still in the air, it was confusing to 'bank' on a vote, so I just stayed with Beer.Seriously? As the only supporter of a lynch that had NO support whatsoever, you now claim that since a vig was going to be fired it would be a ok. I'm glad you acknowledge you are scummy.
Krabs posted in late D1 even less than Beer. Actually, he didn't post at all,You being there and not saying anything, (yes late day does not include just the last 3 hours) is worse than what you are voting Krabs for, so by your own logic you are scum.
I am the Druggy Donna, I have pills of every color. I know for a fact about what certain colors do when eaten. I had no idea what the other colors would do so I tried eating the Gold one, since gold is the color of duff, as a test run. I asked why gold did nothing because I didn't realize that I had received a result. These accounts do that thing where they don't put up that obnoxious popup when you have a new PM.
"He's not posting" Has a possible thought crossed your mind that, just maybe, I wasn't online? Maybe there are timezones in play? Now I'm online, so now I'm posting. "He hasn't contirbuted anything for the last x hours" also falls into the same category: I wasn't around. Why am I getting voted for it?
If you're still wondering why I go with this over Bardiche, it's the fact that Krabs was much more active in parts of the game in comparison, and that I find Krabs' weird behavior harder (read: much harder) to explain. Also, Bardiche claimed his supposed role and claimed to be RB'd. Krabs hasn't really done anything, making Bardiche easier to link stuff to when stuff pops up.Just take a look at this. There are three reasons why you're voting me over Bardiche.
Just for you, I read over your posts again. Where does this show?WOW YOU REALLY DID READ MY POSTS DIDN'T YOU? I'M SO AMAZED BY YOUR READING ABILITY!
Duff Beer I think should definitely post some more content, as all he seems to be doing now is just throwing some pills and eating others. You said you know the effects of the primary colours and basic combinations thereof. By "combinations" do you mean that they have the effects of two different primary colours, or completely different effects? Other than that I don't really have any other problem with him, but I have a gut read of scum on him, even thought it's not that strong.
I never actually said that I thought Duff Beer was scum in that post either. I only said that I had a gut read on him, which isn't a solid opinion of my thoughts. I think he is probably town, with scum gut read.
He was tunneling on Duff Beer quite a lot which means he was either A) Bussing if Duff Beer is scum, or B) Tunneling and/or setting up a mislynch for Duff Beer if he was town.
And I'm currently leaning towards B.
I am not buying that logic for one second that you couldn't comment on any of the other wagons when you were the sole supporter of your lynch.# Votes =/= # Supporters. I hope this isn't new for you, since it shouldn't be. Now... #184 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11122.msg738462.html#msg738462), #193 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11122.msg738498.html#msg738498) and #196 (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,11122.msg738526.html#msg738526) should be enough examples for you. You had arguably the most influence over the voters at that point (proving this against me, Orange and even the early Alpha vote, all of which had turned into wagons). You were strongly approving of my Beer case, and it was pretty clear to be your second lynch, after Orange. Now, tell me, with Orange (and Beer) not posting yet, and with a vig in the air, how impossible was a Beer vote? Yeah, it was perfectly plausible. I was the only vote, yes. It didn't look like outrunning the Orange wagon at the time, yes. But I really did believe that a Beer lynch was perfectly possible, something that made me feel fine with how I left the day. That didn't end up being true, and I would have noticed this were I not gone. Unfortunately, I was gone, and now I'm facing CONSEQUENCES that I honestly did not see coming.
He's still doing the same crap as yesterday, and I'm not exactly pleased to see my expectation he'd start to target the dead coincidentally came true.
Barney>Gilgamesh>Beer>Bardiche>Merry Weather=Alpha>Saki=Duffman>Li=Mr.KrabsEspecially the Krabs part.
I knew it was a cop of some sorts, hmm? The whole point of what I'm doing is because I have no idea what he's up to. Yes, it's some sort of rolecop. Is it purely a rolecop? What the hell is he doing with it, considering he hasn't given his result for Alpha yet? The fact that Duff Beer refuses to explain any of this is just annoying. I'm not trying to milk him for info, I'm legitimately curious. I obviously don't have a problem putting myself to such a test. Actually, yeah, apparently what I'm doing is stupid/scummy or something, so whatever, I'm doing it.Since Barney's explaination for not wanting to get copped is, "it's annoying how he's doing it" I really don't like it.
# Votes =/= # Supporters. I hope this isn't new for you, since it shouldn't be. Now... #184, #193 and #196 should be enough examples for you. You had arguably the most influence over the voters at that point (proving this against me, Orange and even the early Alpha vote, all of which had turned into wagons). You were strongly approving of my Beer case, and it was pretty clear to be your second lynch, after Orange. Now, tell me, with Orange (and Beer) not posting yet, and with a vig in the air, how impossible was a Beer vote? Yeah, it was perfectly plausible. I was the only vote, yes. It didn't look like outrunning the Orange wagon at the time, yes. But I really did believe that a Beer lynch was perfectly possible, something that made me feel fine with how I left the day. That didn't end up being true, and I would have noticed this were I not gone. Unfortunately, I was gone, and now I'm facing CONSEQUENCES that I honestly did not see coming.First of all, because I have strong voice you expected me to flip the wagon? I don't see what you mean by linking my posts.
Just like everyone else in this game (well, mostly everyone else). So it's not really a good point.Except for the part where, out of everybody that Kanji mentioned, you were the only one he felt the need to label as "town". Everybody else he had marked as scummy or neutral, so that he could jump onto them later.
Your jumps onto other wagons were much much worse.And if my jumps were so bad, then why would you stop voting me?
I didn't consider Orange as scummy as Bard at that point.Yes, but this contradicts your previous behavior with votes, where you justified keeping your vote on me because you wanted to pressure me into giving a response. In this case, you found both Orange and Bardiche scummy, but had things that you wanted answered from the Orange. Why did you not vote for Orange to pressure him into answering? At what point did your though process on how votes should be used change?
I thought it might not be the best thing ever, but it was arguably the best I had.Moreso than the two people you said that you were leaning scum on, and the person that you said that you had disliked in most of your posts up until that point?
I never said I thought Duffman was scum, I only said I had a gut read on him.Yeah, a gut read of scum. I fail to see the difference, here.
Did you think Bardiche was an easy target then?I meant that as in why the hell would you just be going after easy targets, instead of scum.
As I said, gut read. I feel no need to express my gut read more than a couple of times unless it changes.But you seemed to be providing a read of everyone else that you found suspicious. Well, whatever.
but I kind of figured Alpha wouldn't be willing to shoot him....which is why I was saying "shoot bard, lynch barney" earlier. If Alpha is willing to vig Barney then I am entirely supportive of that.
As in, fullclaim everything none of this "I don't wanna reveal-" no fullclaim everything. Now.
What do you mean, leaving you in the dust?
Once Duffbeer said post "you are aligned with town" It was pretty obvious that looked like a cop-check. I was expecting to be cleared to-fucking-day.Seriously what the hell is this? I've never seen anyone AS town complain that they weren't being confirmed fast enough. We let him live and he either confirms you as town, and CONGRATS YOU GET TO BE TOWN, or he says you're lying scum, and we have a 1 vs 1 where one of you is confirmed scum! Why the hell are you trying to hard to justify SHOOTING SOMEONE THAT'S COPPED YOU?!
Seriously what the hell is this? I've never seen anyone AS town complain that they weren't being confirmed fast enough. We let him live and he either confirms you as town, and CONGRATS YOU GET TO BE TOWN, or he says you're lying scum, and we have a 1 vs 1 where one of you is confirmed scum! Why the hell are you trying to hard to justify SHOOTING SOMEONE THAT'S COPPED YOU?!
In the mean time, experience has taught me that anything connected to Ice, Water, or any substitute is completely and utterly awful, therefore ##Vote: Mr. Krabs.
4. About ... 20% logic. It's all about what's in your heart!
For reminding me of what it was like when I had the fire in me. Now I am merely a shadow of my former self.
EARTH WIND SHADOW WOOD SWORD THUNDER POWER SPEAR!
CARDCAPTORS OF THE CLOW EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED NOW!
What on earth are you doing Alpha?
Why are you insistent that I used your lacking activity D1 as a reason for suspicion? I did not. The only reason I mentioned that is because it made it so my opinion on you didn't change. Your D2 seemed like a repeat of D1 so I was inclined to continue the pressure but apparently that was unjustified. I ISO'd Bardiche, and like I pointed out, I found stuff that I didn't like, but these seemed more town-plausible mistakes than what I pointed out in your D1, which was pretty much what made me press on. So, yes, I made a mistake. Can you explain your absurd capitalization on this mistake? I think it was... a 'tad' too extreme, like Duffman showed nicely with very nice emoticons.You didn't even put enough into your D2 case on me to make it a good case. Even if you don't want to say anything again, you can just link to where you said it. But what was really bad was the fact that you were voting me over Bardiche for three reasons that I easily countered. In fact, I'm not even sure if you've claimed anything either. And I'm sorry for the "absurd capitalization", I was getting a bit annoyed.
Except for the part where, out of everybody that Kanji mentioned, you were the only one he felt the need to label as "town". Everybody else he had marked as scummy or neutral, so that he could jump onto them later.But if Kanji was mentioning his scumbuddies as town, then why not do it for all of his buddies? Surely there are more than two scum in a setup like this?
And if my jumps were so bad, then why would you stop voting me?
Yes, but this contradicts your previous behavior with votes, where you justified keeping your vote on me because you wanted to pressure me into giving a response. In this case, you found both Orange and Bardiche scummy, but had things that you wanted answered from the Orange. Why did you not vote for Orange to pressure him into answering? At what point did your though process on how votes should be used change?
Moreso than the two people you said that you were leaning scum on, and the person that you said that you had disliked in most of your posts up until that point?
Yeah, a gut read of scum. I fail to see the difference, here.
I meant that as in why the hell would you just be going after easy targets, instead of scum.
My neighbor is currently not online and could not claim even if they were but it should be pretty obvious at this point anyway.
Still think that Duff Beer is a bad vig target. Shooting scum is preferable to shooting weird roles, and Duff Beer isn't scum.
Why do I need to fullclaim, or even claim anything other than my neighbor's identity? I'm willing to if there's a reason for it, I just don't see one.
Above: Alpha claims scum and shoots my neighbor buddy.
Jerk.
DUFFMAN
Yes, I lied. Duffman is not actually my neighbor buddy and chose not to counterclaim me because he hates catching scum.
You didn't even put enough into your D2 case on me to make it a good case. Even if you don't want to say anything again, you can just link to where you said it. But what was really bad was the fact that you were voting me over Bardiche for three reasons that I easily countered.I actually do not see this 'counter'. Bardiche is posting less, which I am assuming is because he's not active (his recent prod is testament to this). This means he's more likely to do mistakes that result from this lack of time. This connects to what I said immediately after; that his mistakes are easier to find reasons for. I am still puzzled by some of your D1, which I find much harder to explain than most of Bardiche's faults. Is my lynching you over Bard still illogical?
Anyway, as much as lynching Alpha is tempting now, you gotta ask why scum would basically suicide like this, or have a vig to begin with. If he's a third party then, well, maybe we can get his support?
Sue me for trying to find rebuttal in what looks to be a rushed wagon.
Alpha 60 is now confirmed Third Party. Why the FUCK would he NOT just claim immediately and promise to help Town instead of SHOOTING THE FUCKING COP and then pretending his nose is bleeding? This makes NO SENSE from ANY alignment.
The rolecop died N1. Scum wouldn't know their results.
Okay, I have no idea wtf is happening right now, but I gotta go. Gonna be busy for a couple of hours.Are you just leaving because you're not the lynch target anymore? What happened is readable in a page or less. Do so and add your opinion on the vig and who the scum are. Duffman can turn this kegger around anytime.
EVERYONE IS SCUM!
Are you just leaving because you're not the lynch target anymore?Remind me to bash your face in after this game for asking another retarded question towards me. This is a stupid question and I should not have answered it in the first place if not for the fact that it pissed me off.
I don't like:
- His constant excuses for inactivity, which seem to excuse the brief content of his posts except he never really makes up for any of this.
- I don't like his case on Li, especially if you consider he himself quickhammered someone he thought was Town with no warning whatsoever, cutting short any further possibility for discussion. "It was fun" does not an excuse make, nor does single-handedly deciding that discussion was dead 40 minutes before deadline.
- Hypocrisy in above that he's not looking much into the NK, yet speculates Alpha 60 would've been the NK.
- The above post also contains a quick case against Alpha 60, but no accompanying vote. He doesn't mention Alpha 60 again at all either.
- His logic for Scum Roleblocker is silly; he's saying Bo Peep couldn't possibly have intended to roleblock more than protect, and that Bo Peep was therefore not seeing him as scum.
- He advices a kill on Gilgamesh under the pretense of connections. Ladies and gentlemen, Gilgamesh has done all of zilch. What connections? That he later argues you can use Day Vigs on useless people further seems to imply he didn't want Alpha 60 to shoot scum: he wanted to shoot "useless people". He also can't make up his mind on if Gilgamesh is scum or is useless that focusing on him is pointless.
- I re-iterate that he at one hand agreed to Krabs case, then later "reboots logic" on Krabs and further doesn't mention him.
- He stays on Mandarin Orange all day to the point of NOT VOTING ANYONE ELSE, and leaves it at that for scumhunting.
AND HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME SCUM? I WAS WEARY OF HIM, BUT NOT SEEING HIM AS SCUM.
IN ADDITION, WHY WOULD SCUM WANT TO KILL USELESS TOWNIES?!
... If we're going to argue Third Parties can work Town-aligned I'm strangling every single one of you to propose it....It is like your dismissing the possibility of "Third Party" backstabs.
Barney is scum for trying to avoid getting tied up in the lie detector shenanigans and discouraging others from claiming to be town because he didn't want Alpha investigated
shoot Saki for being so town she must be scum
Self votes are bad because it's basically saying you don't want to play anymore and you should just be lynched regardless of alignment.Absolutes like this are rediculous and you need to knock them off. Just take something from this ok?
Other than Barney, I would kill Bardiche.
Now, if Barney's claim holds true, we really need to decide if we want him lynched or not, because we may not get this chance again.
Does anybody here have a Night Vig? Because if somebody does, I would suggest using it on Bardiche and lynching Barney.
... I don't even think this is a funny joke.It sure makes it more humorous considering the fact that your avatar is smiling.
So you're a vig busdriver huh?
I do hope someone realizes that when Barney flips scum here in a second Bardiche is probably town.
I thought it was obvious you took the shot.
Unless you're going to suggest it's all Crazymad ~*GAMBITS*~, but I think shooting my scum allies would've been Pesco coming down on me with the raging fist of the north star.You know, if it was anyone but you I wouldn't be rolling this scenario over in my head. There are very few options to me at this point. No, I didn't take shots at anyone. Duffman's power is a different kind of righteous. I... -think- the only other option I could consider is Li Shang. But that would just be.. weird.. Everything in this game is such a THING!
EVERYONE IS TOWNThis is such a rare event.
They would need a very overpowered role-related faithful backup plan to make up for itWhich is why this is such a motherfucking problem arrgh.
Personal vendeta to kill a cop and then turns around and says, "ha ha fuck you all I don't want to help a town as awful as this, even when I think this other guy really is scum."
I mean damn, even I wouldn't do something like that.
Not all roles have alliteration, remember?Source?
And besides, it's not indicative of alignment.
Gilgamesh's suggestion does actually make sense to me. Aaaand look more reason Duffman doesn't want to lynch his waifu. Sisforce?
If the cop just claimed there isn't much further to go. We might as well massclaim now. Krabs can go next since uhm.. I think him and me are the only ones left. And Duffman is too buff to claim first. OH YEAH.
Source?I looked back but I could've sworn someone else said their name wasn't alliterate, oh well, nevermind that then. Maybe this was put in by the mod to create doubt on my role.
I'm making myself a sacrifice, killing myself instead of someone else. Someone who is a better player.Think about it, would you rather lynch me and then a good player is NK'ed? Or would you rather not lynch me, lynch a potential scum, and have me die instead of a better player?
Mime is a confirmed role by me, so Merryweather is cleared.ROLE NAMES ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF ALIGNMENT. MAYBE SHE MADE A FAKECLAIM USING THE SAME ROLENAME?
There is no good way to satisfy your curiosity until tomorrow krabs. When you should be dead :/Which is why I'm asking everyone to vote Merry.
Mods can't end the game because Saki is obv third party.Lol.
I don't know if this counts as postgame stuff because it's nothing we couldn't say ingame.
Holy crap, guys, a redirecter isn't a busdriver. A busdriver specifically swaps two targets, and while I have a shot of that I haven't used it for obvious reasons.Yes, problem? Process of elimination once Duffman dies, and if he ain't scum I'd be surprised.
Cut by Merry. What the blazing shits are you talking about? I didn't act at all tonight because I already used my redirect shot on N2. All I have left is LOL KINGMAKER DAY and slap speech impairments on someone, neither of which seemed like an exciting choice to me.
Holy crap, guys, a redirecter isn't a busdriver. A busdriver specifically swaps two targets, and while I have a shot of that I haven't used it for obvious reasons.Yes, problem? Process of elimination once Duffman dies, and if he ain't scum I'd be surprised.
@MOD: Does scum/ITP need to kill every night?Nope
I refuse to believe that in a role madness someone will only get a restricted ONE SHOT. When everyone else has continous or dual/triple abilities.
So one person watches, one redirects and has communication, and one kills.
Btw, do you realize Saki had a vig as well and other stuff that seems particulary suited for an ITP. They all cause confusion.
I thought I doomed town in a grand way before but I didn't realize we had more powerful towns roles faithfully backing us up.
That Gilgamesh is now using FLAVOUR of all things to push a mislynch makes me headdesk completely. He's spent all the game being useless and now he's coming back with LOL FLAVOUR HERE YOU GO. Seriously, what the shit, when has a mod ever used flavour to help Town?
like asking me if I vigged Kanji D2Or trying to see if you'd fake-claim it.
Are you ActionDan, Alpha?
In fact fuck it, there you go.
##Vote: Gilgamesh
The reason there wasn't an N2 kill is because you were roleblocked. Night 3 there was a redirect AND a kill, proving that the ITP can dual-act as well. Your attempts to pretend that they can't are solidly misleading enough.
You successfully cuddled... Mr.Krabs!
JOB is just being JOB. Ignore him and you'll feel soooo much better. His mind is constantly changing as he reads through people's posts and sheeps to whatever he thinks sound townest. In his case that's actually JOB being town.You are the only one who gets me.
That's the other reason JOB is town. He's constantly here trying to get his voice heard. It screams TOWNIE OBVTOWN to me.
Oh and on the last day, hell no I wasn't about to say, "Shadoweh wasn't 100% on my alignment >_>". Though I really could have finished this much stronger.Damn straight. Lying is pro-town. You were confirmed town to me anyways, not by role but by being Schezo. Seriously you were confirmed town since Day 1. You deserve the credits. Apparently people thought I was town too considering the three protects I had! :o SEND ME YOUR QT'S <^_^>
I am indecisive quite,
who shall I protect tonight?
The scum have probably had enough,
of the man whose life is filled with Duff!
I changed my mind,
please believe me.
I want to protect,
Ms. Saki Morimi. (I was going to protect Duffman (as said above) but I decided to protect Saki instead)
I can't remember my Sacrifice poem. Serela will have to post it later. *hint* *hint*
I just realise Gilgamesh's vote reasons are also shit and similarly would like to demand he explains his reasons. No, Gilgamesh, you are the mongrels.
Ohshit Li x Duffman Scum OTP, Duffman SKILLFULLY HYPERZOMGVIGSUGGESTING Kanji.
A likely excuse.
wait what
The problem with the Barney wagon remains that the only town on it is Li Shang, who I'd put as Town over even Duffman. Seriously.Would have been better if he were town, I guess.
Kitten4u, I'm Fair Fiona, not Fallen. Though I guess I'm now Fallen. Ah well.Derp. It was fallen originally, so I remembered. My bad.
Are all town wins... bad ends?Nope! It's just... rather more likely, since it was unlikely for town to win with more then a few people still alive, which means the chances of people/combinations of people beneficial to the ending still being alive wasn't too high.
Yeah pretty much
OKAY SO THE ENDING YOU GOT PROBABLY ISN'T SO BAD AFTERALL.
They even have a werewolf guy (Since they don't have to eat him before he recovers) to have their babies so the population doesn't end with them. (cue lots of incest since everyone born would have the same dad so there's no other choice)
I mean he's gay but for the sake of civilization why not? Not like there's any guys to pick from anyway :V until the kids grow up
Wow why does everything I write in this game turn into creepy.
[01:21] <Aria> There is something highly disturbing about how much thought Serela put into that
[01:21] <Serela> About what exactly
[01:22] <Aria> Into rebuilding the world
[01:23] <Serela> Shadoweh, I work with what I have :D
[01:24] <Serela> I set a stage and you guys did the rest!
[01:24] <Serela> I just followed it to it's logical conclusions
[01:31] <Aria> I bet that mime is pretending to be Steve now. >:<
[01:34] <Serela> Shadoweh:The mime probably got out of having to do that by mimicing a pregnant lady to have childrens instead
[01:34] <Serela> I mean not everyone is into wolves `-`
understatement of century
utawarerumono plot spoiled.