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So, I had an idea, tried it (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2200/proofofconcept.jpg), now requesting help (yeah I know, the picture is not that great, it was only a test :V).
Main Idea is to replace Reimu with Satsuki Rin, graphics and dialog wide (aka shots and bombs would stay the same).
We would like to request help for:
- Making a Rin Player sprite what goes well with the others (texture replace ones)
- Drawing Rin's portraits, based on this (http://safebooru.donmai.us/post/show/334888/blonde_hair-bow-bow_-instrument-erhu-hair_ribbon-i).
- Someone who makes a patcher for it. (Right now I'm using the english patcher, but I can't replace dialogs with it)
- Also, someone who takes out Theorin's trash.
Any help is appreciated.
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- Also, someone who takes out Theorin's trash.
I can't do anything else, but I can do this =) It's my job, after all~
And you've got plenty of volunteers to do dialogue, if you like.
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So I put myself as the dude who does Rumia's dialogue.
Yay~
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It looks bad a bit...but all this can actually work when you pitch in:)
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Yeah, as the filename indicates it was just a test. I have to edit Reimu's "shadow" too, to make it look good.
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Are drafts okay? I can try doing expressions on her. It may not be great but it'll give the people some ideas.
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Anything is good right now.
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It seems Hizengar is more of a Rin fan...so I'll let he/she judge too as well :)
Draft (http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/7572/draft.gif)
Draft2 (http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/626/draft2.gif)
Draft3 (http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/626/draft2.gif)
Draft4 (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9196/draft4.gif)
Edit: Maybe I should have left the mouth alone for the sweatdrop and annoyed part.
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You'd rather have Theorin asking for it, but still, if you want my opinion, I'd add some eyebrows (small) to the 4th one.
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It seems Hizengar is more of a Rin fan...so I'll let he/she judge too as well :)
Zengar is a MAN! A MANLY MAN! Ahem...
Hmmm... Those actually look like they'd fit in well with all of the other ZUNart in the game, actually... But I'll agree with Zengar about the eyebrows thing~
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I'm pretty sure I can replace dialogue, but I haven't been able to test before.
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Okay I'll give it a shot.:P
Edit: Draft4v2 (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5526/draft4v2.gif)
Wonder if Theorin saw yet...
Had to play Marisa in EOSD and zoomed in her eyebrows...since they look similiar i figured the pallettes from Marisa would do good.
Just a reminder though I can't do poses :'(
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Oh dear. I smell awesome in the making!
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Edit: Draft4v2 (http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5526/draft4v2.gif)
Exactly what I thought I'd see~<3
Good Jawb, soldier
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It's nothing really^^;
I'm cheap:P
I still think we need to find someone to draw though...especially zun-like at least. Or not zun-like...either way is okay.
We need to hire a kidnapper to get zun and clone him...
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Those drafts are pretty good.
Today's question: Rin's options, and what danmaku she should shoot? Keep in mind, that we're using Reimu's shot types.
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Looks like I need to finish v. 1.1 of her theme.
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Well is it possible for a combination of each maybe or color changes?
If not...I was leaning towards to Reimu A(the homing amulets)
Edit: Decided to have some fun :D
Rin A Draft (http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8576/rina.png)
It has my commentary on it so give it a read.
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I don't think we can outright modify the shot types, in fact, we were planning just to retexture Reimu's sprites and leave the shot types just as she normally is.
PS: Upping all the images we need redone.
EDIT: http://www.mediafire.com/?zdqjzmwhgdy
Warning, it contains the ending images. So whoever that wants to avoid semi-spoilerage, then keep away. :V
Also thanks to Drake for the rips and such
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Photoscape is a free program that can colorize them. Don't know when I'll get to one of them but...other's can beat me to it if they want lol
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...That last picture of Remi is terrifying and shall haunt my nightmares forevermore.
Ahem... Anyway, as far as shot types go, I think it's pretty obvious that we'd have to use Wind Sign and Flower Sign to replace them. Actually, since we've already got those White Rose shots for Ijiyatsu, we could always use that, right~?
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White Rose
I was thinking pink (Flower) and green (Wind), actually. :P
At least those are what I will use for the next drawing of hers. Hohoho.
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I was thinking pink (Flower) and green (Wind), actually. :P
At least those are what I will use for the next drawing of hers. Hohoho.
Well, obviously we'd recolour the shots and... Wait. What was that~?
/me explodes with joy~
Eeeeeeh~
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Drawing? That's great:)
Wind Sign and Flower sign? Well whatever you guys want. Anyone got the files of the shots?:X
Well I gave it a shot at making Reimu's hair shorter and taking the blonde pallettes from Marisa. Sprite designing is my weakness so don't expect anything greatX_X
Heres a sample for what I got so far on Reimu's Pallette.
Rin Sample (http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/1443/rinsample.png)
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Well, obviously don't expect usable game material.
More of a fanart in show of support! ;)
Lol should I add in Ijiyatsu!Theorin?
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Lol should I add in Ijiyatsu!Theorin?
It should be obvious that the answer is YES~! DEAR GOD YES~!
Ahem...
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It should be obvious that the answer is YES~! DEAR GOD YES~!
Ahem...
Well, shit. Was going to say it myself, but eh. You can't beat a Theorin.
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If I'm ever a playable character in a possible Ijyatsu sequel, I should obviously have the highest unfocused speed~ Or not, whatever.
Anyway, I now have even more reason and drive to actually get this patch done (somehow, that was possible), so when I get back from work I'll look over Reimu's EoSD dialogue and see how much I'm going to need to rewrite~
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Homing Flower (http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7619/flovershot.jpg)
Wind Needle (http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8227/windshot.jpg)
Working Rin Portrait (http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/411/workingrin.jpg)
:V
Edit: Holy shit I got C&C 4 Multiplayer Beta Key! :V
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Wind Needle (http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8227/windshot.jpg)
Well well. That idea was pretty good, using Marisa's MoF+ base shots.
GJ
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Not to nitpick, but if Rin is going to be depicted as blonde, shouldn't her sprite be blonde, too?
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That's also to be worked on, Ammy. One step at a time.
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Of course, just thought it'd been overlooked or something.
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I made that just before I went to school. I know, I fix those "flowers" right away.
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I got 3 of the sprites done. I'm working on it don't worry:P
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Main Shots (http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1492/mainshot.jpg)
:V
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keep those music notes i love them:D
edit: got 4 sprites done. when i finish the last one on the top, ill make an animation, do some touchups so it doesn't look cheap, and post it here.
edit 2: To be honest I am quite satisfied with this animation :P
Rin Animation (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/332/rinani.gif)
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Oh my poops I can't wait to see more :D
I'm loving everything so far, keep up the awesomeness!!!
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The sprite with Rin turning might take more than a while...it seems more complicated but I can get it to work...just need to work more:P
edit: Also will remove the paper part of the gohei...just making it to a stick she's holding in her portrait.
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I can't wait for this. I wonder if there's anything I could do.
Time to draw Rin doujinshis all over my notebooks, and to play her theme on clarinet~
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Well here it is. Done my best but I think it looks good enough. Look closely and you'll see I added a surprise. Don't know how well it'll work so Solais give me some feedback ok?^^
I left the bullets alone since I think you guys are still trying them out:P
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I should leave feedback, but really Theorin is the one who kinda decides if it's good. I see you did the options too. I actually like them more than my half-assed flowers, but dunno. If my guess is right, and the four graphics of the options means ShotAUnfocused/Focused and ShotBUnfocused/Focused then maybe we can use both. As for the sprite itself... ask Theorin.
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If Theorin doesn't like it, you could always tell him to make his own. :V
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Lookin' good there. However, we were planning on modifying the bomb textures too (The two lower textures), so I guess it isn't finishe-
Oh wait, the bullets are also the same. Forget what I said :V
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Well, I kinda like it~ At the very least, it'll do for now. The options look pretty nice, too...
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Well, I kinda like it~ At the very least, it'll do for now. The options look pretty nice, too...
Um you're theorin right? I don't know who's who around here so if you're not him/her, I apologize. :X
Anyways is there something you'd like to see changed? Maybe I could do it. Or you just prefer a sprite designer extraordinaire? :D
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Um you're theorin right? I don't know who's who around here so if you're not him/her, I apologize. :X
The #1 Rin Satsuki Fanboy~
I think it should be obvious.
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I think it should be obvious.
Dunno there could be many #1 fans and they are possibly in a fight :D
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Dunno there could be many #1 fans and they are possibly in a fight :D
It's a grand war. There's a group which say Rin Satsuki is actually Lalya Prismriver, and then there's the group that disagrees with that. Then there are the people who think Shou is Rin's sister...
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(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6617/rinflowershot.jpg)
Flowers done.
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8779/mainshotbreak.jpg)
The sound notes break on impact.
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It looks damn nice!
This is going to be ready so soon~
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You did a good job. Thumbs up and hands down to you ;D
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Oh wow... That looks great~
...I suppose I should start work on the dialogue soon, shouldn't I?
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Yes you should Theorin. Today I'll probably do the Bombs, and edit Marona's Rin sprites a little to be a little more unique. After that have nothing else I can do, the dialogues and the portraits are all to you people.
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Holy crap. Chalk one up for the Hungarian fanbase!
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What? And Hungarian fanbase? There's one?
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Once this is finished, I am willing to funplay it and record random scenes in fraps and post it on NicoNico or on youtube. This deserves some spotlight imo.
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Thanks Helecaust.
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9317/flowerbomb1.jpg)
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7466/flowerbomb2.jpg)
Flower Sign "Satsuki Azalea"
I'm also mildly annoyed, because I can't come up with anything that looks cool for the second bomb of Rin. So people, draw something in white in a 65x65 black square, that will be Rin's bomb. Something what goes well with a music instrument and the "shockwave" style of the bomb.
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<UndefinedZengarObject> Holy crap Solais
<UndefinedZengarObject> It's GDLK
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I can already see the Japanese Touhou fandom's reaction now:
"They made a mod that did what? To insert who into the game?
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Those weird gaijin.
*goes back to making oppai mousepad*"
GJ Solais :3
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Thanks Nobu.
Also: We should really take over the Touhou fandom. Okay maybe its just my megalomaniac dream to become the next ZUN and control the fandom, but YEAH!!
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PROOF THAT RIN SATSUKI HAS A FANBASE
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Thanks Helecaust.
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9317/flowerbomb1.jpg)
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7466/flowerbomb2.jpg)
Flower Sign "Satsuki Azalea"
I'm also mildly annoyed, because I can't come up with anything that looks cool for the second bomb of Rin. So people, draw something in white in a 65x65 black square, that will be Rin's bomb. Something what goes well with a music instrument and the "shockwave" style of the bomb.
Second bomb?...Crap I have no idea. I'm blank on that X_X
But I love the first spellcard! ;D
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Going to say right now, her bomb is really unorthodox with the squares. It stretches it vertically a bunch, then layers four on top of each other and they move move backwards. It's really weird.
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Considering she is a musical being... how about something with soundwaves?
Reimu-Bs Bomb is weird but that could work, yes?
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Considering she is a musical being... how about something with soundwaves?
Reimu-Bs Bomb is weird but that could work, yes?
Yeah, that was the general idea. However I couldn't make it look good, that's why I'm asking other people to draw it.
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Circles will not work no matter how hard you try. I'm not sure how that would work.
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Great to hear how this is going!
Also, I think I'm going to commandeer "Strange Bird of the Moon, Illusion of Mysterious Cat" from Ghostly Field Club as Rin's theme, at for my own creative projects.
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Well what a Coincidence. I just wanted to ask about Rin's theme. Tengu already made a rough draft, what Drake ZUNified, so I kinda thought about asking him, trying to make a boss theme out of it, or something like that. Actually, it won't be used in the patch, but as something we could use for a possible video showcase for youtube and nico. Mostly Nico so the Japanese see it and make Rin known. Etc.
Also, I'm done with Rin's revised sprite (it was based on Marona's), and thanks to the new EoSD hitbox patch, I was finally able to get rid of the bugs in it (it still wriggles around a little, but I can't do anything about that. Even EoSD Reimu wriggles a little.)
So, I again turn to Drake, you said you can maybe replace dialogue in the game. I want to know about that.
Oh yeah, and Rin's second Bomb. We still need graphics for that. And the portraits and cutins. Maybe the endings, too. We need real ZUNartists! :V
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Oh yeah, and Rin's second Bomb. We still need graphics for that. And the portraits and cutins. Maybe the endings, too. We need real ZUNartists! :V
To bad I can't draw or anything...
Why do you think I wanna hire and pay people?:P
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(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg73/unhealthiest/rinsatsuki-2.png)
I don't have the current Rin template but I used the old one posted earlier and modified the bomb. I don't know how it's going to look in-game, but it seems like a nice idea (maybe?).
I also modified the options because I didn't like the border D:
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And the portraits and cutins.
Hmm? (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/334888/blonde_hair-bow-bow_-instrument-erhu-hair_ribbon-i)
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I don't have the current Rin template but I used the old one posted earlier and modified the bomb. I don't know how it's going to look in-game, but it seems like a nice idea (maybe?).
I also modified the options because I didn't like the border D:
Do the same thing that you just did, but make more notes and shrink them to fit. The bomb stretches at least 200%, so squashed notes would look more normal than the ones you have now.
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So, I just read this whole thread, and it smells like a huge pile of AWESOME.
...I doubt it, but does you still need dialogue writers? D8
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I don't have the current Rin template but I used the old one posted earlier and modified the bomb. I don't know how it's going to look in-game, but it seems like a nice idea (maybe?).
I also modified the options because I didn't like the border D:
Tried out the bomb, and I like it! However, just as Drake said, make more notes, and shrink them to fit. It will be good. Also, the borders of the options have been already changed as they were too large to begin with.
So, I just read this whole thread, and it smells like a huge pile of AWESOME.
...I doubt it, but does you still need dialogue writers? D8
Sorry, but Theorin writes the dialogue. He's the main Rin fanboy in these boards. Also I want to see how he will pull off Kamina!Rin.
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Sorry, but Theorin writes the dialogue. He's the main Rin fanboy in these boards. Also I want to see how he will pull off Kamina!Rin.
Actually, I think it'd be a good idea to have several dialogues written up. So if anyone else wants to give it a go, go ahead~ We could always put it up to a vote which one we use in the end anyway.
...To be honest, Kamina!Rin started off as a joke, but it seems to have spiraled out of control... Then again, it sounds like it'd be a lot of fun, so I'm definitely at least going to attempt it~
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;3 I have nothing but respect for the man who upholds Rin's memory even when all else forget her.
But I also like his idea. xD
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(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg73/unhealthiest/rinsatsuki2.png)
I put two lines because it looked too empty if I squashed it into one line... I hope it'll look good? D:
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DO THE IMPOSSIBLE! SEE THE INVISIBLE!
RIN! RIN! FIGHT THE POWAH!
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(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg73/unhealthiest/rinsatsuki2.png)
I put two lines because it looked too empty if I squashed it into one line... I hope it'll look good? D:
GENIUS! ;D
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Hay don't steal mai lines! :V
Also:
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/157/rinbomb2.jpg)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7805/rinbomb3.jpg)
Sprites done~
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I'm getting mighty perturbed at the damn dialogue. Rufus' msg thing didn't work so I edited it a bit in a hex editor, and then I realized that putting it in replace_files did nothing because the translations are overwritten anyways. And so now I have to use datpacker, of which I haven't ever done anything for EoSD, and I have no clue what the ordered file list should be.
EDIT: fuck
EDIT: hope
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Hay don't steal mai lines! :V
Also:
(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/157/rinbomb2.jpg)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7805/rinbomb3.jpg)
Sprites done~
Mm, it could still use some more improvement. If I could test it on my own it would be easier, but I have no idea how to do that. D:
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Simple way, plop image in a folder called replace_files, run the english patch.
I'm done for now though, pretty much stuck.
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Hmm. There ought to be some way to put this in the Japanese version, too (in which case we'll need the script translated) ...
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I found out that the lines what the english translation uses for overwriting the msg.dats, are in a file called "translations.pickle" what is something having to do with Python. As I know nothing about programming, I can't help much other than this. I found it among the temporary files what the patcher extracts.
The funny thing is: the one who made the EoSD translation is someone from the very old shrinemaiden.
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What if trying to open it with notepad? Then again...it's probably too complex that we can't even see the dialogue...
Okay who wants 5 dollars whoever knows python and all? ;D
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What if trying to open it with notepad? Then again...it's probably too complex that we can't even see the dialogue...
Okay who wants 5 dollars whoever knows python and all? ;D
Tried, you can see the dialogue, but if you change it, the English Patcher crashes.
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GENTLEMEN! I HAD A BREAKTHROUGH!!!!
(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/2479/dialogue1.jpg)
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/599/dialogue2.jpg)
Youkai of IS THAT SO???
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The Youkai of "Is that so?"
Genius...pure...fucking...gold...GENIUS ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ah way to go btw! (later on maybe try fooling around with the pc98 ones if its the same way)
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I'm a big kid now
(read: i can do it too)
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I'm a big kid now
(read: i can do it too)
Then why didn't you mention you could do it? Hmmmmm?
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I used the same method as Solais before this, but I didn't realize that for some reason datpacker ver6 doesn't work. I had ver5 somewhere and he gave me a file list.
If I'm right I should be able to make Undefined Black Object.
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From now on, I'd appreciate any kinds of dialogue for the Rin Project.
Keep in mind, that for now, the dialogues must have to be as long as the original dialogue when you play Reimu.
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Hum maybe something like.
"Some would say "This is a wonderful night."
Maybe we could go down. Like right now I said one line on what Rin would say, then the other person below me can add something and the other person and so on. How's that?
(nothing stupid people.please. and criticism is welcomed)
Especially for the people crazy for Rin
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The final stretch for this mod! I am getting kind of excited to be honest.
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I was bored.
Feel free to edit.
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Thanks! It's good for a first draft, so we will use this as a basis.
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Only weird thing is the odd sort of dependence on the previous dialogues already written. Cryo-freezing, medicine, etcetc
I still think Theorin should do like all of it lol
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It was supposed to be like that, I guess. :V
Cirno said the same thing because she isn't very smart, and just changes a few things I guess
Okay I added some dialogue after you beat flan.
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Hmmm...
Oh, oh yes... That would do nicely. Maybe a little bit of editing to make it slightly more unique would be in order, but apart from that... That works out just fine~
Thanks, Snaka~
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Just wanna say...
OOOH I CAN'T WAIT I CAN'T WAIT I CANNOT WAAAAIT ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Let's see ... Solais asked me (http://dizzy.pestermom.com/?p=thcomic99#comment-1822) to come up with some dialogue for Rin, so lemme see what I can come up with ...
EDIT: Oh yes, in addition to being the same length, we're going to need characters to have the same facial expressions, aren't we? Hmm ... gonna have to play EoSD to research this ...
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I was thinking...maybe with the patch that will release...how about as the credits we could add Roukanken's Rin theme (Fading Dreams)?
Link here (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=3360.msg142620#msg142620)
Yeah but we could just overwrite it on our own EOSD folder...but yeah ya know... :-X
And we gotta ask tengu and him for permission too XD
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We were actually thinking about that sometimes ago, but dunno, it's something that's part of Iji, also Rin should have a longer, boss-like theme.
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Would "Strange Bird of the Moon, Illusion of Mysterious Cat ~ On The Shoulder of Hisou Tensoku" (http://dizzy.pestermom.com/?p=thcomic97#comment) suffice? ;3
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I've been thinking about mixing the two and creating something original.
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Hi everyone, I don't know if anyone's made the facial expressions for Rin's Portraits yet , but I've made some anyway (http://www.mediafire.com/?znyky2ynnmy), and I want to know what you guys think of them.
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I appreciate the help and it could work in the newer games, but, in EoSD every portrait is different unlike in the newer games where only the facial expression changes. For an example, in Reimu's six portraits, only three has the same pose, with different expressions, the other three shows Reimu in an entirely different pose. I suppose we can use your work, but it's not enough, sadly.
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Hey, those look pretty good... I never really expected anything more than something like this (I always thought that a full set of individually style portraits might be asking too much), so this is great~
Eheheh, phase... Um... Whatever number I was on now... Is complete~
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Well yeah, but I still have to replace Reimu's portraits, and because of the difference in the portraits' sizes can make these ones quite... mis-sized. But maybe I can do something with them...
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Question here:
Is it possible to change the character select pictures because if so will the picture be changed to show Rin instead of Reimu.
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yes
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Every sign of the existence of the being known as Hakurei Reimu will be erased from this hack.
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Every sign of the existence of the being known as Hakurei Reimu will be destroyed from this hack.
Oh my, will that mean history will be rewritten. (jk)
Anyways cool and I cant wait for a release.
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Every sign of the existence of the being known as Hakurei Reimu will be erased from this hack.
What about the menu screen? Any way of removing her from that~?
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If you draw a new one, of course.
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Every sign of the existence of the being known as Hakurei Reimu will be erased from this hack.
I thought that this project was an awesome idea to begin with, but this just makes it the most amazing and wonderful thing ever~<3
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I need to do a 4-koma of you guys working on this and then show RIn pushing Reimu off a cliff XD
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Oh right -- I'm not sure if I've asked, but can we change "which facial expression this uses" for the dialogue, or is that stuck as the same thing?
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As far as things go now, it is stuck.
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Kay, I guess I'll have to do research as to precisely which faces are which ...
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I kinda want to know how the whole Rin, is almost done or something, thing is going because I'm just curious.
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Well, we need portraits, ending pictures and dialogue, then it's done.
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Well, we need portraits, ending pictures and dialogue, then it's done.
Is there a specific format for the ending conversations? I may try my hand at this effort. And I may indeed avoid the cursed rune in the process, I am not sure.
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Dunno, haven't checked yet. But we need ending pictures, not the conversations, that's easier to write. (Of course, we need to write the conversations first before we have the pictures drawn to them, but I wanted to write them myself.)
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I'm still waiting for this. x3 I just popped in to commend you guys on your effort.
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I'm still waiting for this. x3 I just popped in to commend you guys on your effort.
Don't worry, I'm waiting too.
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I've finished putting together a sort of "skeleton" for the script, specifying what faces each character has, and also the dialogue-bits and scene-changes for the endings. If anyone wants to check and make sure I've got everything right, feel free.
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Holyshitawesome, Muffin. With this is it'll be easier to do it. At least we have some progress..... ;_;
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Am I too late? ^^;
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Oh yeah -- I've had this unfinished thing lounging around in my hard drive. I decided to replace "sweatdrop" with a sort of "thoughtful/knowing" expression, and "annoyed veinpop" with a more neutral frown, since it kind of fits my version of Rin better.
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And when I thought everyone forgot the Project. Thanks Muffin! Now we only need the portraits, and we're FINALLY done. I've asked Wriggle for them, but she disappeared...
Ah it seems, it's not finished, the Flandre part is it.
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Aside from portraits, is there anything else that needs to be done?
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No. And Wriggle just PM'd me, yay! What a good day.
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Yeah, I need to do the Flandre-dialogue and the endings. My creativity there has been failing me, though ... :/
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Do only Flandre. I have some ideas for the endings~ And of course, it's a secret.
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Hey, has there been any more progress on this since the last post? I've been watching this thread ever since I found it several months ago since I roleplayed as Rin Satsuki in Deviant art and I was interested in seeing what other's thought of Rin.
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No, I made a Danmakufu script instead.
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Danmakufu?