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Helepolis said something about this needing its own thread so heyo it now has its own thread!
This seems to be like a main site I dunno it looks kinda spooky. (http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/wip/)
(http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/1.png)
Touhou Mahoujou ~ Book of Star Mythology was originally a fan music compilation project headed by maceknight, with ido and Wanwan as participants among a bunch of other composers, much like the prior project Heavenly Gathering of Clouds. Now, however, maceknight and co have decided to turn this into a full-fledged game, with raichu (the developer of Youkai Kori Kassen) as programmer and other peoples joining in. The news on this can be found not only on the site linked above, but also on ido's blog here (http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2015/09/post-03e1.html).
From what it looks like, it's using the same engine used back in Riverbed Soul Saver, and there seems to be some sort of LoLK Pointdevice/Legacy duality in modes based off of the screenshots, chapters and all. Other than that, not much more is known about actual gameplay or plot. Yay for vague descriptions and stuff!
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So like Riverbed Soul Saver improved TD mechanics, this will use LoLK ones? I hope it won't be as hard
not like I will be able to run it...
I like the art style, Reimu looks really cute here.
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Not like I will be able to run it
Don't give up hope! WNSP used ido's engine, and that runs much better than ido's games. Hopefully maceknight will make some improvements.
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I'm saying this more for me than for you o_o
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I like the art style, Reimu looks really cute here.
I like the art too. Marisa looks really cute as well and has a neat outfit. I'll try to check out the game when a demo gets released.
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http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E8%AA%AC%E6%98%8E/
Not a trial yet, just gameplay information. Sadly I can't do the old copy-paste Google Translate/JParser as usual since the text is all in an image format, but from the bit I can read in general, it's talking about the differences between Legacy (represented by the yin-yang orb) and the Pointdevice-like mode (it's not called Pointdevice but I can't read what it is called, or even if it does the same sort of checkpoint thing with chapters as in LoLK), chapters, and the items.
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The mode is called "Legendary Hero Mode".
Also seems that not dying will give you a bomb piece at the end of a chapter.
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The triangle seems to be the Item Collection Line (can't read kanji, just guessed by the katakana). Probably will be some mechanic similar to Marine Benefit. The star item has a parenthesis in the description, about Legacy Mode (either exclusive to it or it can't be found at all).
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The triangle seems to be the Item Collection Line (can't read kanji, just guessed by the katakana). Probably will be some mechanic similar to Marine Benefit. The star item has a parenthesis in the description, about Legacy Mode (either exclusive to it or it can't be found at all).
Actually what I'm getting from the explanation is that every 777 wish items gives a bomb in Pointdevice but a life in Legacy.
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...did anyone notice that they were kind enough to give us bits of the plot already?
Playable characters (http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/キャラクター/自機キャラクター/)
Boss characters (http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/キャラクター/敵キャラクター/) (up to stage 3)
(Obviously these are spoilers, click at own risk)
The characters page include links to what seems to be the game scrips (one for each player) up to stage 3, it also includes when the boss theme starts playing.
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A video of the demo has recently been posted by Maceknight. (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27687396)
Apparently, instead of graze slowing down point items, you need to pointblank big fairies for star items, which also come from star enemies. Something like that, or maybe Gilde will describe it better.
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It's here! The demo version will be released on the following day. Since the developers were so kind as to put the dialogue and (most of the) character info on the website already, I think I can have it translated relatively fast this time around.
Gameplay stuff:Triforce Legendary Mode gives you infinite lives. It's like LoLK, but you don't have to rewind every time you get hit.- Shooting enemies in rapid succession will lower the autocollect line, represented by the blue arrow on the side.
- Shooting enemies at close range (indicated by a magic circle for large fairies and bosses) will cause them to emit more star items.
- Collecting 777 star items will give you a bomb on Legendary Mode and a life on Legacy Mode.
- Completing a chapter with no deaths will give you a bomb fragment.
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And yet they didn't notice that the mechanics were fundamentally broken.
On Legendary Mode there's absolutely no reason to dodge, as you can die all you want.
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And yet they didn't notice that the mechanics were fundamentally broken.
On Legendary Mode there's absolutely no reason to dodge, as you can die all you want.
Well, your score is lower, at least, and there's various ranks you can get as an incentive to play well. It's basically an extra mode compared to Legacy, anyway.
Here's my translation of all the text shown in the video. (http://pastebin.com/SR5GNk3y) I seriously can't wait to play this tomorrow!
edit: Trial version is out! (http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/so/3574984) (warning for axfc's usual nsfw banner ads)
Also, Lunatic gameplay (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27697590) videos (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27696872). I love how much visual flair the stages and bosses all have.
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So, i played the demo. Please note that their blog posts were on November 28th, today it was released, different timezones and all.
It seems that everything is huge, or rather, it was "zoomed in", notice the player's sprite, the bullets (mostly arrow bullets, and no i don't mean the stage 2
boss), the size of boss graphics. My memory isn't fresh but maybe this is a carryover of the engine from White Names Spoiled Past.
I blind 1cc Normal on Legacy and then a run on Pointdevice Hard. Don't quote me but it feels that deathbombing time is longer on legacy, my only (?) death there was from crashing into a star enemy, yes, there are enemies with the shape of stars, they shoot danmaku and you can destroy them. The game so far feels generous giving you opportunities to shotgun stage enemies and some bosses, thus giving resources like candy. Maybe this is because i got gud enough. The biggest difficulty from hard mode are the changes in the bosses, stage portions are simple, but i'd say a bit too short, though.
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Seems to be an option on where you respawn when you die in Legendary Mode: either where you left off or at the beginning (of the stage, I infer).
Also, even in Legacy Mode I ended up with 6 lives and 5 bombs.
Still hope Legendary Mode gives a bad ending in the full version.
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Seems to be an option on where you respawn when you die in Legendary Mode: either where you left off or at the beginning (of the stage, I infer).
That option lets you choose whether to respawn at the bottom of the screen ("Home") or at the location where you got hit ("Stay").
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Having given it a spin on Legacy on Normal, I do say it's a tad bit on the easy side and after stage 2 you just get a flood of lives as long as you try to consistently point-blank. Still though, I really like the attacks so far, especially for stages 2 and 3. Plus I can actually run the game with all the effects on without it lagging like crazy, and they still look pretty damn amazing as far as these kinds of things go. It's just difficulty that right now needs adjusting, along with the mechanics for getting lives and certainly how Legendary Mode works.
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I played it, and it was pretty cool. Though it lagged. Not as much as RSS, but still, on some parts of stage 3 I had 30 fps.
I don't think I've ever seen this many stars on the screen at once before. The patterns were really cool, and the music is nice. Stage 3 boss' theme sound a lot like that of the Labyrinth Stage from Treasure Castle Labyrinth. This game was supposed to be just a collection of music and characters like TCL at first, right? Maybe that's just a coincidence.
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Warning Glory is too good for a 1st stage boss theme.
The aesthetics of the game is very pretty, and has caused rather minimal lag so far. The part where the cry of a bird is heard and scares away the faries is also pretty good.
However, the game is just too easy. Legendary Hero mode looks as if it is too easy, since lives don't matter and the player can die as many times as they want. Legacy mode is also very easy, since bombs and lives are given to you like candy. Perhaps, doing something about the life per 777 Star Crystals and making it 5 bomb fragments per bomb would make it more balanced.
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314 million (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzxwCcsVR5c7QUU1eTdsaXVkU1U/view?usp=sharing) on Normal.
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UPDATE
kinda
maceknight (https://twitter.com/maceknight) is trying to say something about the second demo version of the game (https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/693057733369548804). Maybe some info on the 4th stage (https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/693058981372125189) (he [?] retweeted an image of the silhouette of the 4th stage boss (https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/693060597873684480)), and published images for both shottypes of Marisa and Sanae (https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/693059775517454336).
Marisa A: Illusion Laser/Witch Leyline
Marisa B: Cold Inferno/Eight Trigram Fire
Marisa bomb:Love Sign "Master Spark"
Sanae A:Mighty Wind/Aqua Laser
Sanae B:Black Spread(?)/Demon Serpent
Sanae bomb:Esoterica "Gray Thaumaturgy"
The site does cite an update today (Jan 29th) (http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/), but no new downloads.
Good thing i often check the twitter acount of gore, aka the Re.Phantasmagoria of Imagine Breaker guy
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The hitbox seems to be off-center compared to the sprite. It's throwing me off.
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From what I read a few days ago, Oyasu just announced (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/712245398950182912) that BoSM (or just a second demo?) is to be released on April 2nd.
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From what I read a few days ago, Oyasu just announced (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/712245398950182912) that BoSM (or just a second demo?) is to be released on April 2nd.
Yeah, second demo.
It will have all 3 characters and go up to stage 4.
Also, for what it's worth, I've managed to score 605m in the demo, even if I died at the end.
My highest no-death score is 595m. -shrug-
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Doesn't it strike anyone that on Oyasu's twitter there's screenshots that involve a new score mechanic with magnitudes and potentially mentions of Last Words?
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I've noticed that as well. Seems like some sort of a score multiplier, where the lower the "magnitude" is, the higher the multiplier, at least that's what I could take from Oyasu's screenshots.
Can't wait too see how that works, looks really interesting! :3
Maceknight also has recently posted some screencaps from Marisa's and Sanae's shots: https://twitter.com/maceknight/media (https://twitter.com/maceknight/media)
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Marisa has backshots! ... I don't see how that'd be helpful in any of the current stages. .-.
And Penetration. Naturally.
Judging from Google Translate, Marisa's flamethrower is still a shotgun shot-type?
Google Translate gave me no useful info about any of Sanae's shots.
As for the Magnitude system... I'm curious.
I just hope the old system is still there, too. It's fun.
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Marisa has backshots! ... I don't see how that'd be helpful in any of the current stages. .-.
And Penetration. Naturally.
Talking about penetration...
Also, for what it's worth, I've managed to score 605m in the demo, even if I died at the end.
My highest no-death score is 595m. -shrug-
Was it with oonusa Reimu or with needles Reimu? I have an easier time making better scores with homing Reimu, as her focus attack is a small area-of-effect, killing multiple enemies when needles would hit some and leave the others hiding behind. More killings, more items to collect, it compensates for the lower damage on bosses and lower spell card bonuses. Current record is 416m with ReimuA on lunatic, missed some cards.
I consistently have difficulty with the stage 2 midboss card.
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Was it with oonusa Reimu or with needles Reimu?
I used my Broom to good effect. ::)
I consistently have difficulty with the stage 2 midboss card.
It's running in circles around her. It's stupid, though.
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Preview of stage 4 on NicoNico is up: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28555864 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28555864)
Click at your own risk.
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Did you (Jimmy) watch the video? I couldn't access niconico yesterday and neither today. Commentary on twitter tells that others are also being affected, that nico currently isn't allowing foreigners into the site. Maybe it wasn't simply an April Fool's gag, but actual technical difficulties.
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Did you (Jimmy) watch the video? I couldn't access niconico yesterday and neither today. Commentary on twitter tells that others are also being affected, that nico currently isn't allowing foreigners into the site. Maybe it wasn't simply an April Fool's gag, but actual technical difficulties.
I couldn't watch the video either because there are always the "connection timed out" or "the server stopped responding" errors showing up. I first thought that could've been because of my Internet working improperly.
I've posted the link anyway hoping that someone else here with access to Nico could come across this.
Can't really think of a reason why Nico would do something like this, aside from technical issues like you mentioned. I could access the site just fine before today.
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I believe it is a problem on NicoNico's end (http://blog.nicovideo.jp/en_info/2016/03/post-060154.html) which kinda makes me curious how the link is up but the site isn't.
Either way we might have to wait it out longer than we expect to see the fourth stage or hope the game download comes out regardless.
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Download is actually up, I'll probably give it a shot later once I'm more awake than I am now (actually getting like 12+ hours of sleep instead of like 2 is amazing)
http://www1.axfc.net/uploader/so/3645364&key=th_bsm_pre2
EDIT: Accidentally linked the first trial, fixed.
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So... thoughts.
The main change is that you get far less lives. Played up until Tobiko with my crappy laptop keyboard, will play on my good keyboard tomorrow. It's still unforgiving of deaths, though.
You get more for point-blanking. And the Magnitutude system makes scores go up hugely - was at 550m at Tobiko before I quit, and it was _really_ crappy. Could probably hit 700-800m+ before her. At Magnitude 1 you get 4x score from everything.
I was at 40k PIV coming into Fab and Iphonea, which I've never done before even with a nigh-perfect stage 1.
Every time you increase your magnitude you get a life fragment. You increase magnitude by getting wish items. I like it.
There's also last spells. I'm not sure how they're unlocked. Fab and Iphonea's one is very easy, but also really cool.
Also apparently the HP of their last main spell was lowered, which confused me - it died faster than normal. Gonna have to wait a bit for a good cancel... oh well.
You get bombs the same way. This is exactly how I wanted it to change, and you have no idea how happy it made me. Less lives, same bombs. Shows how much Ido is thinking of scoring.
The stages have been made harder but also not to the point of being unfair. I like it. I'm annoyed that Tobiko's midboss spell wasn't changed, though.
No change to the bosses at all I think. I don't mind that.
I was worried that Magnitiude would change the system I love so much a lot, but it didn't. It improved it by tying the life system into it in a cleaner way.
Great change!
I'll use the other shot-types, route stage 4 and get a hopefully good scoring run tomorrow.
Overall, though, I'm just so happy with this ohmygod :D
Plus Spell Practice. Yaaaas!
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...Alright, so I figured I'd try this on Hard, since it wasn't that hard when I played this on Hard the first time around.
LET ME EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S A POOR IDEA
First off, I do have to say with Magnitude, I do feel like I was getting less lives, but not by too much, so I don't feel it made too much of a difference there. I think you get a life piece for every three Magnitude levels you get... I think. Someone tell me if I'm wrong there.
Second off... the fourth boss... holy crap she is a difficulty spike and a half. I don't think I've come across any boss that frantic in a Touhou shmup that early. I didn't even get past the second spell before I was blown away like it was nothing. The fourth stage in general felt like a difficulty spike, but that... that... ooohhhhh god.
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That bad?
Pruns said she's insane too. I'm curious.
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You get to a last word by collecting stars. There's a number close to the magnitude counter, I think?, that decreases whenever you get stars. Get enough to make it reach 0 and you'll reach a last word.
Speaking of which, does Shelia's last word crash the game for everyone else once it's finished?
Btw the 4th stage boss is REALLY tough. Most of her spellcards are very gimmicky, Clownpiece-style. I think she's the kind of boss that once you get the hang of what her spellcards do, she becomes easier. I got to capture her Last word and final spellcard on Hard after a few trial and error on spell practice, but she's still pretty hard.
Also the 2nd boss' last word is HARD. 90 second survival that is really tough.
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Also the 2nd boss' last word is HARD. 90 second survival that is really tough.
About that...you can shoot her perfectly fine, she will die
Also, I feel like Marisa B and Sanae A shotgunning really kills things. Marisa A's shot also seems pretty powerful I guess.
Not sure if anyone realized this but,Mokou
has a Last Word. Stage 4 boss' spell cards are just gimmicks, as mentioned above, if you know how it works the difficulty decreases.
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About that...you can shoot her perfectly fine, she will die
Also, I feel like Marisa B and Sanae A shotgunning really kills things. Marisa A's shot also seems pretty powerful I guess.
Not sure if anyone realized this but,Mokou
has a Last Word. Stage 4 boss' spell cards are just gimmicks, as mentioned above, if you know how it works the difficulty decreases.
Huh, seriously? I tried a handful of times but couldn't see her health bar. maybe my game's weird... I'll give it another look later and see if I didn't just overlook that.
Edit: Huh that's true. She's just invisible, but can be shot. Weird!
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First off, I do have to say with Magnitude, I do feel like I was getting less lives, but not by too much, so I don't feel it made too much of a difference there. I think you get a life piece for every three Magnitude levels you get... I think. Someone tell me if I'm wrong there.
There's actually a life piece every time you level up the score multiplier. Doesn't make that much difference from the mechanics in the first demo, pointblank as many enemies as possible and you'd get just as much resources.
As for the new boss:
Really hard, and by really hard I also mean it. This is the most fast-paced stage 4 boss I've faced anywhere in Touhou. Move swiftly or she's gonna shred you into pieces.
I think this is the first time that shurikens
have been implemented as danmaku in a Touhou game. The effects in her danmaku patterns are pretty damn amazing IMO.
I'm also really diggin' both the stage theme and the boss theme, kudos to the respective composers.
PS. Ichiyou is a human. A ninja.
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Managed to score 5,932,922,470 on lunatic.
However, it had 2 dumb clips on the stage 4 boss, so it's shit-teir. I also had a very bad second-half of stage 4, bombed way more than I should have. I could get 6.3-6.7b, I think.
Even more if I decide to use the stage 3 beginning strat. Now that I have something that isn't 100% shit, I think I will.
I'll upload the replay for all to see when I get a replay that isn't shit. :V
Anyway... the 2 songs from stage 4 blow all of the other themes in the game out of the water. I think Sunlight Reburst
might be my favorite stage 4 boss theme ever.
Amazing job Monday and whoever composed Sunlight Reburst
!
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Out of her 4 spellcards, I think the first and last ones are the toughest. The grass spellcard is doable but can be a headache, and the tatami one is almost guaranteed to capture if you know what you're doing.
Overall her fight is super fun and I loved it!
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Out of her 4 spellcards, I think the first and last ones are the toughest. The grass spellcard is doable but can be a headache, and the tatami one is almost guaranteed to capture if you know what you're doing.
Overall her fight is super fun and I loved it!
I actually think it's the other way around.
The first is by far the easiest, the last one is also easier than her third and second card. The second is, as you say, doable but a headache, and the tatami one is by far her hardest in my opinion.
Though her first 2 nonspells are definitely her hardest attacks. They really do need to be toned down a bit.
What difficulty do you play on, and how do you do her third card?
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On a side note, full-game replays crash at stage 2, while the fairies that shoot red and blue balls jump up to the top of the screen. I've confirmed that this happens on Normal for both Reimu A and Sanae A, and on both Legendary and Legacy. Nolegs has also confirmed that Lunatic also has this bug. Stage practice replays are known not to crash. I searched for IsReplay in the game code, but didn't find anything obvious.
I've experienced such issues before when coding in Danmakufu. Such crashes come from things such as using a void value in an expression, reading a nonexistent file, or using a resource while it is being loaded. Since this happens in the middle of the stage and triggers every time, I surmise that we have the first or the second type of error, though not necessarily the exact things I mentioned.
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I actually think it's the other way around.
The first is by far the easiest, the last one is also easier than her third and second card. The second is, as you say, doable but a headache, and the tatami one is by far her hardest in my opinion.
Though her first 2 nonspells are definitely her hardest attacks. They really do need to be toned down a bit.
What difficulty do you play on, and how do you do her third card?
I've been playing on hard. And gosh, really? The tatami one is so easy for me! I presume it must be the same-ish thing on lunatic, yes?
Nonetheless, there's tons of ways to do it. For me the easiest way is only breaking the tatami in the middle, and waiting for the rest to break on their own.
Once they all break, you quickly run towards her and hug her. That'll make the tatami bullets go icicle fall and fall right past you.
Since she has low hp on this spellcard, in 2/3 cycles depending on your shottype you should get it captured.
You can also do other ways, like breaking all of the tatamis on one side (most importantly the upper tatamis) and hiding on the ones on the other side.
The main thing here is shooting her only when all tatamis are down and she's summoning more of then.
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Hmm. I see, thanks!
I'll try that.
Anyway, for the good news...
Stage 4 lunatic no miss, with 498,874,530 score! (http://www.mediafire.com/download/n47b3oi3md9b8n6/Main_replay14.dat)
I am extremely happy with this run. I don't find stage 4 that bad any more, but still came out of nowhere. That Weed cap.
I hope this happens in a full run. :)
EDIT: Just got a 565m run of stage 4 stage practice. No deaths, finished with 2 bombs. :P
Replay. (http://www.mediafire.com/download/bny0fms2rs0gsiv/Main_replay16%282%29.dat) You'll have to remove the '(2)' mediafire tacked on.
Anyone have a replay of stage 4 normal? there's no videos of it yet, and I want to see it. I can't be stuffed playing normal. :V
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After playing a few runs, I can say that this is shaping up to be a pretty nice game.
My initial thoughts on Marisa and Sanae are that they feel noticeably stronger than Reimu. Then again, I've only played Reimu in this iteration like once. Deathbombing with the those two is also a bit different, as the game no longer feels like it gives you forever to do so. (Took me by surprise a few times, since you had to main Reimu in this game before. Not like I got hit much below Lunatic anyway.)
I enjoyed stage 4...probably because of the music. Stage 3 and Stage 4 themes are easily my favorites. Stage 4 boss is going to take some getting used to, but that's good. She adds on much-needed difficulty in this game.
My first run was on Normal and I happened to not die, so I thought I'd post it. The Replay crash of stage 2 thought otherwise. -.-
Also, my SanaeB Hard replay crashed at stage 2, also. Lovely.
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Stage 4 normal with Sanae A, 252,650,560, 1 miss, 5/6 spellcards captured.
Edit: Video. (https://youtu.be/5zbmJQjM6cQ)
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So, stuff happened.
577,395,590 Stage 4 Lunatic (http://www.mediafire.com/download/aiorz6upor7j1w8/Main_replay24.dat) with 3 bombs left. Didn't waste 2 bombs on her third spell this time. :P
Failed Jiraya instead. :V
632,264,480 Stage 3 Lunatic. (http://www.mediafire.com/download/wyvsqcj4a4uprjo/Main_replay21.dat) Captured all of Shelia's spells barring August Lyrids and Sheliaburn, quite good stage portion. I'm pretty happy with this.
Also have 196m stage 2 and 432m stage 1 lunatic stage practice if anyone wants them.
Just shows how relatively little stage 2 is worth for scoring... :wikipedia:
My best on stage 1 is ~455m in a full run attempt that went south in stage 2 I think.
Anyway... for actual discussion. It seems ReimuA and SanaeB are better for survival than any of the other shot-types: homing to make stages easier, which no other shot has. They both have fairly good boss-killing power, plus Gray Thaumatography is the best bomb for survival, while Fantasy Seal is fairly powerful.
Plus both have versatility - their focus/unfocused shots compliment each other.
Your thoughts, MoTK?
Also, this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-cCvTmMO_Y) Just this. :getdown:
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So, stuff happened.
577,395,590 Stage 4 Lunatic (http://www.mediafire.com/download/aiorz6upor7j1w8/Main_replay24.dat) with 3 bombs left. Didn't waste 2 bombs on her third spell this time. :P
Failed Jiraya instead. :V
632,264,480 Stage 3 Lunatic. (http://www.mediafire.com/download/wyvsqcj4a4uprjo/Main_replay21.dat) Captured all of Shelia's spells barring August Lyrids and Sheliaburn, quite good stage portion. I'm pretty happy with this.
Also have 196m stage 2 and 432m stage 1 lunatic stage practice if anyone wants them.
Just shows how relatively little stage 2 is worth for scoring... :wikipedia:
My best on stage 1 is ~455m in a full run attempt that went south in stage 2 I think.
Anyway... for actual discussion. It seems ReimuA and SanaeB are better for survival than any of the other shot-types: homing to make stages easier, which no other shot has. They both have fairly good boss-killing power, plus Gray Thaumatography is the best bomb for survival, while Fantasy Seal is fairly powerful.
Plus both have versatility - their focus/unfocused shots compliment each other.
Your thoughts, MoTK?
Also, this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-cCvTmMO_Y) Just this. :getdown:
Found out how to fix the replay issue:
Insert this line after line 311 of lib/lib_Stage.dnh:
SetAreaCommonData(CAREA_SYSTEM, "AsciiTexts", []);
By explicitly setting the entry, this code avoids the problem Danmakufu has with reading empty arrays into common data. This entry is used by the function that displays the "MAGNITUDE UP", "SPELL EXTEND", etc. messages at the bottom, but if it's set to a Medusa value (a term I coined for an internal-use value that will crash Danmakufu if it is observed), said function can't do it's job.
I contacted Mace about this fix.
And it seems MarisaB and SanaeA aren't bad either, due to their shotgun powers.
Stage 2 might not be the most lucrative stage, but it does have the bomb timing on Tobiko's first nonspell to get PIV from the following spell without forfeiting the bonus. I'm also fond of the camera pointblank. :P
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Found out how to fix the replay issue:
Insert this line after line 311 of lib/lib_Stage.dnh:
SetAreaCommonData(CAREA_SYSTEM, "AsciiTexts", []);
By explicitly setting the entry, this code avoids the problem Danmakufu has with reading empty arrays into common data. This entry is used by the function that displays the "MAGNITUDE UP", "SPELL EXTEND", etc. messages at the bottom, but if it's set to a Medusa value (a term I coined for an internal-use value that will crash Danmakufu if it is observed), said function can't do it's job.
I contacted Mace about this fix.
It worked!
Thank you so much. :3
And it seems MarisaB and SanaeA aren't bad either, due to their shotgun powers.
Indeed they aren't, but they're still below ReimuA and SanaeB. But they aren't bad. Besides, SanaeA has Thaumatography.
Stage 2 might not be the most lucrative stage, but it does have the bomb timing on Tobiko's first nonspell to get PIV from the following spell without forfeiting the bonus. I'm also fond of the camera pointblank. :P
I actually haven't been using the Tobiko opening bomb because I thought I could use the bombs for later.
I still think that, but I think I can spare one bomb for it. So I'll start doing it again.
Also Camera Pointblank is waay to risky for what you get from it :P
Anyway, I watched my 5.9b replay to make sure there weren't any other points the game went 'RIP'.
There weren't.
Anyway, my stage 1 PB was actually in that run, not some dead one.
457,295,730 in stage 1. Had 100m before Iphonea and Fabritis. So that's quite nice, at least.
But regardless... fucking hell, stage 4 in that run was absolutely atrocious... :colonveeplusalpha:
I'll share said run with my first non-shit PB purely for the good stage 1.
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Also... does anyone agree with me in that the change to the chapter right before Shelia (orange aimed stars + yellow stars), instead of making the chapter harder as Maceknight probably intended, actually ended up making it easier instead?
I think it's a lot easier now. It was already easy, so... ::)
Not that it matters. The hardest chapter in stage 3 outside of Shelia is by far the first one anyway. Even then, I'm very consistent with it as long as the blue stars don't fuck me over.
(To the uninitiated: I do said chapter from the top of the screen to auto-collect the wish items, which would be annoying/hard otherwise.)
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I'm still trying to get an understanding of what exactly gets you life pieces. I know it's by getting Magnitude ups, but sometimes they give you life pieces, sometimes they don't. Is it while you're at 1 Magnitude? Something else? I don't really get what the actual cutoff or requirement is for you to get a life piece from a Magnitude up.
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I'm still trying to get an understanding of what exactly gets you life pieces. I know it's by getting Magnitude ups, but sometimes they give you life pieces, sometimes they don't. Is it while you're at 1 Magnitude? Something else? I don't really get what the actual cutoff or requirement is for you to get a life piece from a Magnitude up.
Seems to be if you fill the gauge, you get a piece, but if you capture a spell card, you don't. (Yes, spell card captures give Magnitude.)
Edit: quite funny how I posted exactly at midnight.
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Seems to be if you fill the gauge, you get a piece, but if you capture a spell card, you don't. (Yes, spell card captures give Magnitude.)
Edit: quite funny how I posted exactly at midnight.
I've had fill-ups not give pieces though... I think. Not quite sure. I'll have to pay closer attention. But that explains why I got two Magnitude ups in one shot once, I suppose.
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Seems to be if you fill the gauge, you get a piece, but if you capture a spell card, you don't. (Yes, spell card captures give Magnitude.)
Edit: quite funny how I posted exactly at midnight.
I'd like to add that you can get life-pieces even if you're at 1 Magnitude.
Also...
Here's how you discover new strats. (http://www.mediafire.com/download/gx2fd03aqas7pp7/Main_replay25.dat) Just as planned!
(Also, 212m stage 2 lunatic. (http://www.mediafire.com/download/9sbe6tkw70vl110/Main_replay26.dat) I might as well share it if anyone wants to study it.)
I've had fill-ups not give pieces though... I think. Not quite sure. I'll have to pay closer attention. But that explains why I got two Magnitude ups in one shot once, I suppose.
In Infinite Life Mode it gives you a bomb piece.
That might be why.
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On a side note, someone named om of the nom is scorerunning with Marisa B, who appears to have better shotgunning abilities. He also stalled the stage 1 last word for graze, yielding some more PIV. I've attached two of his replays for reference.
Edit: Created a spreadsheet to track high scores. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gE8VTQQqQJlYNmRph_iLF5eiFY1yOlPAFwQT-r-CAqA/edit?usp=sharing)
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On a side note, someone named om of the nom is scorerunning with Marisa B, who appears to have better shotgunning abilities. He also stalled the stage 1 last word for graze, yielding some more PIV. I've attached two of his replays for reference.
Edit: Created a spreadsheet to track high scores. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gE8VTQQqQJlYNmRph_iLF5eiFY1yOlPAFwQT-r-CAqA/edit?usp=sharing)
I thought MY first run was messy...
9+ misses. Dear god.
By the way the lunatic replay is 9-11 miss by the way, not 5 miss. Can't remember off top of my head what one it is because I'm dumb. :P
And damn, looks like I'll need to time-out their last spell from now on. Oh well.
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Six misses and Om got 6.59b. MarisaB really does do well for score.
Edit: This player captures Shelia's midboss card in the strangest way. WAIT TILL YOU SEE HOW HE DOES IT. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0UqR0tKVB40R29QemdQRU9YQ2M)
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Edit: This player captures Shelia's midboss card in the strangest way. WAIT TILL YOU SEE HOW HE DOES IT. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0UqR0tKVB40R29QemdQRU9YQ2M)
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell. This player is clearly a god lol. I wish I could do something as gutsy as that and not die in the process.
I didn't even try to go for a scoring run, and I happened to get ~ 5 billion. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Mv0FmiaFQ) This game seems to favor players who don't die, seeing as keeping the magnitude multiplier up is a must for higher scores. Staying alive is also easier with the truckload of bombs it gives you.
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Great. You can also submit your scores here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gE8VTQQqQJlYNmRph_iLF5eiFY1yOlPAFwQT-r-CAqA/edit?usp=sharing).
I honestly thought you'd die on the second half of the stage. Well, you died three times on the boss, I guess.
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I honestly thought you'd die on the second half of the stage. Well, you died three times on the boss, I guess.
In return for not having to bomb my way out of the second portion of the stage, I had to have a sub-par fight against Ichiyou. Funny how that works out sometimes...but the magnitude drops were definitely felt. Had I even just bombed my way through the entire fight, my score might have been a fair bit higher. I'll have to experiment further with it.
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Six misses and Om got 6.59b. MarisaB really does do well for score.
Edit: This player captures Shelia's midboss card in the strangest way. WAIT TILL YOU SEE HOW HE DOES IT. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0UqR0tKVB40R29QemdQRU9YQ2M)
I've been trying to get Om back onto this site but he seems to refuse to some... Quality issues he has and things here 5 years ago.
Weird how some people tick huh?
I've also conversed with him over Skype and he says it's possible to get 7bil at the end of stage 4.
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I guess since Om can't get an account here at the moment he's shared his score via tweet (https://twitter.com/OmoftheNom/status/719926406134702080). Somehow I also think I was the one pestering him about getting it out there aside from mentions here an there.
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Um, if it's all right, could I get an explanation of the Magnitude system? I haven't quite gotten it.
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You get stars for shotgunning and killing enemies (like in TD). Gathering stars fills that constellation on the HUD. Every time the constellation fills up, the magnitude decreases by 1 and your score multiplier increases by, like, 0.4 or something, until you have a 1. Once you have a magnitude of 1, filling the constellation will increase your score multiplier by 0.05. Dying increases your number/empties the constellation meter.
It's basically the same as the rank system in MS (without making patterns more difficult) or the flower system in Len'en 2. But with a reward for shotgunning.
As something separate entirely, there's a smaller number below the constellation, to the left of the big shiny number. Whenever you collect stars, that number decreases. If you get that number to 0 by the end of the boss, you unlock the boss's last word.
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Um, if it's all right, could I get an explanation of the Magnitude system? I haven't quite gotten it.
I usually delve deep into things like this, but for whatever reason, didn't look hard enough into this one. I'll share what I've gathered from it.
Magnitude is a score multiplier with 6 levels to it. Each level of it seems to have its own set multiplier. This seems to be the same across all difficulties.
6 = x1.00
5 = x1.60
4 = x2:20
3 = x2.80
2 = x3.40
1 = x4.00 (Every subsequent magnitude raise adds 0.05 to the multiplier. 4.05, 4.10, 4.15...etc.)
Magnitude increases (or goes down, depends on how you look at it. Score goes up as magnitude goes down...pick your poison.) by one level either by getting enough wish items to fill up the constellation gauge near the Magnitude counter, (don't know how many you need...seems to be ~ 300 or so) or by capturing spellcards. If you lose a life, it drops a level. So in order to guarantee high scores, it is imperative to stay alive to stack the bonuses once you hit 4.00. Reason being, if your multiplier is at 5.35 and you get hit, that drops the magnitude to level 2, and sets your multiplier down by nearly 1/3 and you've lost all the bonuses your spellcard captures and wish items gave you. I imagine for score runners, that's a failed run.
If anyone knows more about it, feel free to let me know what I missed.
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell. This player is clearly a god lol. I wish I could do something as gutsy as that and not die in the process.
Hi hi :)
This strat is 100% consistent with Marisa B. Just get a couple of taps under the dark circle but still be inside the red circle. Tap left, down, right, up in quick succession once the note bullet to the left of you splits apart. Should work every time if you tap the right amount of distance.
Has anyone heard of any other 7bil+ records yet? I'm not sure if I should keep working on getting a higher score or not, but at this point my main roadblock in that idea is Ichiyou and I'm not looking forward to grinding her battle.
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So is it automatically increasing PIV, basically? Alongside the PIV counter based on graze and wish items below it?
(I guess you could say I'm asking which aspect(s) of the score is it multiplying by the factor I see)
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So is it automatically increasing PIV, basically? Alongside the PIV counter based on graze and wish items below it?
(I guess you could say I'm asking which aspect(s) of the score is it multiplying by the factor I see)
Looks like the magnitude multiplies everything. From spellcard bonuses to shooting down enemies. By stage 4, the spellcard capture bonuses seem to be in the 100 million mark, so it adds up pretty quick. Each wish item increases the PIV by 20, too. Also, it seems that you lose PIV when you die, like MoF. I'd have to do more research to find out how much you lose.
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Looks like the magnitude multiplies everything. From spellcard bonuses to shooting down enemies. By stage 4, the spellcard capture bonuses seem to be in the 100 million mark, so it adds up pretty quick. Each wish item increases the PIV by 20, too. Also, it seems that you lose PIV when you die, like MoF. I'd have to do more research to find out how much you lose.
Hm, I see, thank you for this information.
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I think you lose 10% of your PiV each time you die. Which really makes this a game where late game deaths are major major score killers.
Also nearly timing out the first LW on Lunatic gives like a 14k PiV boost which is a beautiful thing.
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I've decided to try MarisaB. Om, got any useful replays? like stage practice, or spellcard practice for the tough things? (e.g Midboss Shelia spellcard would be nice)
Enjoying the extra power on some of the earlier spellcards. For instance, turns out I'm more consistent just point-blanking Shelia's first spell than doing it normally with ReimuA. .-.
Also found out Ichiyou's last normal spell gives a fair amount of graze with Marisa. Thank god it's easy - my capture of it in spell practice (which I think got it to ~24 seconds left), got about 7-8k from graze alone. Another run I did got 1730 graze and got me to 37000 PIV at the end of it, including the cancel + wish item drops. In a real run you'd pretty much want to time it out. So heh.
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Edit: This player captures Shelia's midboss card in the strangest way. WAIT TILL YOU SEE HOW HE DOES IT. (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0UqR0tKVB40R29QemdQRU9YQ2M)
This is still the best I have to offer (7bil run), seems to be mostly optimal strats on Bosses, stage 2 could use some work and maybe even a bit of work on stage 3 too. Stage 4 is a mess tho but mostly @Ichiyou. It's really unpolished but I'm not very polished myself.
Mid Shelia strat here is 100% consistent and you really just need to look at it to get it, but I can attach a replay of the specific card too hang on. #11 is the consistent strat, seems to work with Marisa B and Sanae A only, as the others are not strong enough to kill the card before you get hit. #12 is a risky and much less consistent strat (probably with perfect movement each time it'd be consistent but that's suprisingly hard to do) but has a slightly better score gain so I figured I'd include it, it also looks slightly more impressive ;)
Shelia in general is point-blankable the entire fight except for her second card and her LW with Marisa B. Sanae A should be able to point blank too I think.
Also side note: Sanae A seems to be stronger at shotgunning than Marisa B, if Shelia's midcard is anything to go by. However Marisa B is still probably superior score wise due to better 1st stage mid/ boss patterns and also a more manoeuvrable shottype for dealing with enemies from different angles (her side shots are great for easy shotgunning while staying out of harms way especially in stages like stage 4.
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How is that "100%" consistent?
It's still very percise. -sigh- Oh well.
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it's not thaaat precise, keep the taps relatively quick and it should work 100% of the time, there is enough leeway there. I've performed it consistently at least 5 times in a row without running into too much difficulty :P
Start in the same place i do (just inside the red circle when it starts), then when the bullet to the left of you splits just tap left, down, right, up and stay there, you should be golden. maybe it takes a little bit to get used to .
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Sanae A seems to be stronger at shotgunning than Marisa B, if Shelia's midcard is anything to go by. However Marisa B is still probably superior score wise due to better 1st stage mid/ boss patterns and also a more manoeuvrable shottype for dealing with enemies from different angles (her side shots are great for easy shotgunning while staying out of harms way especially in stages like stage 4.
MarisaB is the shotgun queen in this game. You just weren't close enough. :)
100 is likely the best you'll get as far as score.
101 is optimal flame shotgun.
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100 seems really effective actually and probably should be adopted instead of my tactic.
I mostly made up mine cos i wanted to see if i could clear it with minimal moves and make it look really difficult to do ;P
Still, even if that is the case having a significantly powerful shot without needing to be 100% pointblank is extremely useful. If Sanae A was a B type instead I'd definitely try her out for score, she'd very much give Marisa B a run for her money I think.
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Still, even if that is the case having a significantly powerful shot without needing to be 100% pointblank is extremely useful. If Sanae A was a B type instead I'd definitely try her out for score, she'd very much give Marisa B a run for her money I think.
SanaeA's a cool shot - it's my favorite by far. If I actually tried, I could probably get past the 5 billion I have...now that I'm more familiar with how the shot works and stage 4 in general. She's the second strongest and even her unfocused shotgun isn't bad as far as damage.
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It's been nearly half a year since the second demo got released, and still no word about the full version.
At this rate, it'll be a few more months until we get the full version of the game. :(
But in the meantime, I've been busy working on an English patch for the current version! :D
Interested? Look here! (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,19922.0.html)
EDIT: Make that a few HOURS.
( Of course I'm so late it's nearing release by the time I post this...*FACEPALMS*)
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A couple weeks ago, Maceknight tweeted (https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/776893660721926144) that the commemorative edition of the OST, including remixes and companion booklet, will be released on Oct. 16 at Autumn Reitaisai. The OST (including remixes) will also be released for free shortly after the game itself is, which... I imagine that'll probably be around October? But you never know.
Milka has also made several (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/775327296970366977) tweets (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/776405466666500097) about how they were originally planning an Overdrive Mode for the full version, but have settled for simply beefing up Lunatic and bumping the Overdrive card concepts down to there. Normal mode will remain pretty easy, though.
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Oh hey this game looks good too. I guess I've got some new games to stream soon :V
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According to Milka, the main game is planned for release on October 14 (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/782398806084116480). The EX patch is planned for November, but the story info itself will be posted about two weeks after Reitaisai. (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/782400935809064964) (also ex boss silhouette in second tweet. 'get' 'hype' as they say)
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HYPE (https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/786514658186231809) INTENSIFIES (https://twitter.com/maceknight/status/786462134393720832)
beware of minor spoilers
EDIT: Full game preview is up! (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29835880) (Nico's working this time) Heavy spoiler warning!
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Here's a summary I wrote (http://pastebin.com/3LnYt2Rr) of the Stage 5 and 6 bosses' backstories from the info in the video. ssssssssssspoilers
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Stage 5 and 6 looks really fun... and my expectancy for stage 6 certainly went beyond words... it gives a really different feel from others...! Although stage 6 boss fight is a bit too flashy... now can you imagine that in Lunatic mode...? :V Now to wait for the full download...
Also I wonder what they have in store for EX Stage... possibly more exhilarating than Stage 6... :D
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BoSM v1.00 download (https://www.axfc.net/u/3730092.zip)
be cautious of the NSFW ads on the site (as usual)
EDIT: Having been eagerly awaiting this game's full release, I couldn't help but immediately play it through right after release. And Lord Almighty, this is by far the most elaborate shmup final boss fight I've ever seen anywhere to date, but goddamn she's hard as heck.
The themes kinda sound a bit eccentric on the first listen, but they've really grown on me after 2-3 more times and I already like them more than many official pieces.
I love this game.
A big thumbs up to Mace, raichu and anyone who participated in the making of BoSM!
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Lunatic final boss is really tough...
EDIT: Lunatic 1cc Sanae A attached replay
I wanna put it up on youtube but I can't record the game without it crashing when I press the record button.
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Just did a normal 1cc of the game. The music is what sold me all the way. Gonna have to see how well the new bosses fare in Hard/Lunatic.
Seems like there was more to the end completion bonuses this time. Since it's all in Japanese, I had no idea what it said, but it looked really good. Speaking of which, I had the same feeling of confusion during the stage 6 boss and what ensued in that as well. But this definitely does not disappoint - can't wait for the extra + phantasm to show up, too.
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Download here (https://www.axfc.net/u/3730121.zip) since Jimmy's one is taken down apparently.
I can't wait. Watched Maceknight's video, looks amazing.
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Perfect final boss fight on Lunatic attached.
(not a full stage perfect though, only the fight)
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Perfect final boss fight on Lunatic attached.
(not a full stage perfect though, only the fight)
Have you managed to capture that one spell in stage 4 on Lunatic yet? The one where you get trapped.
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Seriously though these patterns are just bizarre. Like there are some things in this game I honestly can't see being done consistently. Though I suspect perhaps there's secrets behind all these mysterious patterns.
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Anything on stage 4 is annoying and I cannot cap them consistently to save my life.
That being said, I've capped everything but the shield spell and the last word on the demo so there's that.
I'm mostly just super happy my precious Shelia shotgun strats are untouched. Hooray for scorerunning.
Stage 4 feels both easier and harder though, it's definitely the bane of my scorerunning as it stands so lets see if I can get through it a lot better overall and start scoring in this game again.
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(http://puu.sh/rJtNk/ba3ec7b118.png)
Neat, 1cced Lunatic with SanaeA.
This game is actually really hard. The Stage 4 boss is utter stupidity and the final boss is also pretty dumb. Stage 5 boss, for some reason, is actually really easy. Huh.
Recording the replay now.
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Stage 5 boss is easy?
I struggled a lot both times I tried but I still need to attempt more so maybe it's not hard to figure out after a few.
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Yeah, she's not that bad to figure out, honestly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frbIaF3lvuE
Here's the run.
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It's a shame that the difficulty peaked at Ichiyou (stage 4 boss) and just declined from there. Honestly the last boss is a piece of cake in comparison.
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Yeah, final boss has relatively simple patterns. While the Stage 4 boss is just...utter pain.
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After playing a few times on Lunatic, SanaeA still steamrolls through spellcards. I attempted to play through with MarisaA, and I actually have to dodge things...which generally gets me hit or forced to bomb. Just to make sure I could actually do it, I captured all of the stage 5 and stage 6 spellcards on Lunatic, save the last one.
Messed up my MarisaA Lunatic 1cc right before the Last Word, but I had a total of 13 lives and too many bombs to count. Though some parts are harder, it feels like the game throws you too many resources. Even the last spells of stage 6 aren't invincible to bombs, so you can bomb the whole game with great success.
Edit: Before the stage 6 final spell is declared, that portion cannot be bombed.
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(http://i.imgur.com/SaLDdhv.jpg)
10bil Sanae A Lunatic clear.
Could do soooooo much better but stage 4 is where score runs go to die and stage 5 was also a mess. Very nice stage 6 though considering it's only day 1.
EDIT: SanaeA Normal 10.7bil no death clear. 11bil should be possible, as this was a very basic first try. Replay attached.
(http://i.imgur.com/6z7MKm5.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma1WvKqt14I
I figured out that impossible spell in stage 4...
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I have the feel that Ido want to do something less difficult in order to let the player care about aesthetic. It's a succed, the game is pretty well designed form the beginning to the end
Stage 5 theme and stage 6 theme are both really good, final boss one too
Am I the only who get raped by new versions of old spellcards on stage 2/3/4 ?
Lunatic 1CC first try for people who are interested ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6pC_HNQRw
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Am I the only who get raped by new versions of old spellcards on stage 2/3/4 ?
Haha nope. For people who played the demo, the first 3 spells of stage 2 are essentially just trolling. Stage 3's change wasn't that bad, and stage 4's always been weird to handle.
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So I saw this and was like "this looks cool, maybe I'll try it and see what happens"
then I got to the second boss and got bad flashbacks of the squirrel from MPP
then I got to the fourth boss and outright wanted a refund of my life back
I really wanted MarisaB the game to be good, too, but at risk of sounding petulant, I don't see myself having the motivation to do much with this one. :/
(Memo to game designers everywhere: Ninjas and shirukens are bad ideas nearly all the time)
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So I saw this and was like "this looks cool, maybe I'll try it and see what happens"
then I got to the second boss and got bad flashbacks of the squirrel from MPP
then I got to the fourth boss and outright wanted a refund of my life back
I really wanted MarisaB the game to be good, too, but at risk of sounding petulant, I don't see myself having the motivation to do much with this one. :/
(Memo to game designers everywhere: Ninjas and shirukens are bad ideas nearly all the time)
If it makes you feel better, the only bad part is the stage four boss. Everything else is reasonable.
Also Marisa B is not the best survival type but for a shotgun essential scoring system she is brilliant and powers through the first 3 stages with ease. Sadly the last two stages give her a lot more trouble, but maybe I just need to route it better. Just figure out how to be right next to anything and she's suddenly really good (her unfocused shot shooting around her sides as well is immensely useful).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma1WvKqt14I
I figured out that impossible spell in stage 4...
Nice job! Maybe this route can help me save an extra bomb on a scorerun.
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If it makes you feel better, the only bad part is the stage four boss. Everything else is reasonable.
Also Marisa B is not the best survival type but for a shotgun essential scoring system she is brilliant and powers through the first 3 stages with ease. Sadly the last two stages give her a lot more trouble, but maybe I just need to route it better. Just figure out how to be right next to anything and she's suddenly really good (her unfocused shot shooting around her sides as well is immensely useful).
The Stage 2 boss sucks too, although MarisaB does hilarious things to her Last Word. Like what is this midboss card (although it looks like MarisaB can kill it earlier than other shot types).
It's all fun and games for the first three stages, but then the entire second half of the game is not friendly to people who can't do good damage at range; the last two bosses are clearly not designed with MariB in mind (it's really hard to stop the Stage 6 boss from flattening you under Saturn, and the last Last Word goes on more or less forever). At least "Marisa"'s card is really, really easy.
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Stage 2 boss isn't too bad, the mid card is weird but I'm used to bombing it, however I think i remember it just being about circling around her (but maybe it got changed since the demo). She's really just about learning how the cards work and the strategies kinda fall into play.
But yeah I agree with the sentiment of ranged damage is OP, which is why I've switched to being a huge fan of SanAe. It sucks that the last half screwed over MariB so bad, She would've had some of the highest score potential out of all the shots :( At least SanAe is downright fantastic now. Kinda forgotten about any other shottype haha.
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lunatic 1cc sanaeA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YcZtDXj7J4&feature=youtu.be)
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/7904f79168234c1b96a15e0fd093b6a7.png)
idk what i did but i did something.
any clue on what this means?
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idk what i did but i did something.
any clue on what this means?
You have achieved.... Spica Rank!! Nice job.
"You are a danmaku maiden worthy of representing Gensokyo. You are deserving of this, the name of the star that decorates spring nights."
Ranks are awarded based on score and number of deaths. Apparently there's some really high secret ranks for Super Special Players too.
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Truth be told one of the reasons this game feels easy is because it gives you so many damn resources. I've died three times before stage 4 and still 1cc'd hard on my first try just fine.
I have to say the patterns are amazing though, and I loved the new characters' designs! These devs sure got a good grasp of what a danmaku fangame is like! I'm looking forward to more titles from them!
And the extra stage, of course.
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Normal Sanae A No death 1cc 11.8bil replay attached.
(http://i.imgur.com/8jFivfn.jpg)
This excites me, 12bil has got to be possible now. I wonder if trading star items for spell bonuses are beneficial towards the end of the game. I know stage 6 in this run could have probably used some work as well as stage 5 but man I wonder just how much further this could go.
Also as far as I understand this is the SSS rank effectively, but apparently there's still one higher? dunno, how would you even achieve that.
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Ah, playing this was so fun. I love stage 2 boss patterns, pretty imppresive actually.
Anyway, stage 5 boss is honestly a pain for me; I guess I'll need more practice against her.
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How do people have access to clean images of the new bosses?
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Hey, cute! I just realized that the last boss' final spell is a callback on Riverbed Soul Saver and Mystical Power Plant's final spells.
Nnnot too sure if the first phase is supposed to reference anything from The Last Comer, since it's been forever last time I played it. Anyone knows if it's also supposed to be something from it?
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When fighting the stages 5 and 6 bosses, my impression was that they were characters from The World Ends With You. You see that late-game bosses like to add background parts for aesthetic and sometimes practical effects (e.g. Byakuren's lotus, Miko's not-lotus, not-butterfly saint aura). But these ones in particular strike me as different.
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/twewy/images/e/e1/NWMFZlKOR957.png/revision/latest?cb=20160526002137)
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/twewy/images/4/44/Twewy-BJ.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100303125525)
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/twewy/images/0/0f/Noise_95.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20080720024604)
(credits to wikia)
Final boss clearly has the Reapers' tattoo-like dark wings. Stage 5's must remind me mostly because of the dark colors, but her (dark) foxes looks like a tattoo design even when it isn't the same kind as the Noises' bodies.
Probably it's all coincidence.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YcZtDXj7J4&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YcZtDXj7J4&feature=youtu.be)
Luna 1cc video, SanaeA is pretty powerful.
Excited for when Extra comes out
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Nnnot too sure if the first phase is supposed to reference anything from The Last Comer, since it's been forever last time I played it. Anyone knows if it's also supposed to be something from it?
The first phase of Fuma's
last spell is referencing the final phase of Ieusa's last spell (https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Last_Comer/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_112)
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Scrubby release-day lunatic 1cc with SanaeB. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcXrLPnk9gM) 14 misses, 0/0 finish.
I subsequently got a much better run with SanaeA, but I haven't gotten around to recording or uploading that yet. Oh well.
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(http://image.prntscr.com/image/15f488b69b3e4d098a8494f39b078c54.png)
4.696b
Easy WR i suck at scoring xdxdxddxdxdddd
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The first phase of Fuma's
last spell is referencing the final phase of Ieusa's last spell (https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Last_Comer/Spell_Cards/Stage_6#Spell_Card_112)
Haah, I see! Man that last spell is really cool, referencing the previous games' spellcards like that.
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Oh boy. Lidera managed to score 14.3 billion on Normal. (https://twitter.com/lidera_bw/status/787504611569508353)
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Got my MarisaA Lunatic 1cc. Took some restraint not to bomb everything, and that's probably why it took 2 tries. Once I set up my annotations, I'll upload it to Youtube. After trying to crop out the sides for like an hour, I just gave up. For now, I'll just use it for my notes.
...it sucks not being SanaeA.
Edit: It's done! I took my sweet time with it.
MarisaA Lunatic 1CC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUinkEg8ZM8&t=0m0s)
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Is there anywhere else where its available for download? I'm having no luck downloading from axfc, as in I only manage about 20MB of the full 206mb before it suddenly stops downloading. I really wanna play this too >.<
EDIT: Nevermind, got it to finally work after hours of trying!
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I got around to uploading my much better but still pretty bad SanaeA Lunatic 1cc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpiwe8QrZ5Y).
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Do you guys have any suggestion on how to reduce the fps slowdown on a few cards? From what I've tinkered with the settings, the last 2 bosses' spellcards (and most of their nonspells) have been giving me a really nasty slowdown.
It's a bit odd since I've even lowered the effects and background settings, but it seems to be solemnly the danmaku's fault. Is there any way to get a more reliable 60 fps?
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In the games code, go into "script/th_bsm/lib/zakolib/lib_zakodraw.dnh" (you can open dnh files with notepad). At line 291, there should be a function that says "DrawFamiliarHitodama". Put "//" in front of that function. That should drastically reduce the lag on Nezu, though her familiars won't have the little fire trails on them.
Still trying to figure out a way to reduce lag on Fuuma. Think it has something to do with the lasers, but I have no idea what about the lasers would be causing so much. I can let you know if I find a fix.
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Not sure if this helps any, but if you're using SanaeA that may play into the lag. I experience lag occasionally on Nezu's midboss nonspell on Stage 6 only with SanaeA, (Curiously not with MarisaA) probably because her piercing shot hits so many targets. For half of the spell cards toward the end of stage 6, they use the extra hands that all have hitboxes...so maybe because it hits so many targets?
Randomly guessing here based on my experience.
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Hey thank you both for the suggestions! Yeah, I've been noticing Sanae A has some really strange FPS drops that I don't see when playing with other characters. I'm gonna be trying other shottypes out and see if it helps.
And thanks for the headsup too TresserT! I'll definitely give it a go and see if it improves!
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So, the OST has been officially released on the site, and it includes both arranges of all the music and the music for the Extra stage. From rough translations, they're called "Acheron Higan Trip" and "Sword of the Fallen Hero ~ Legend of Sanada" respectively. So... Extra boss related to Sanada Yukimura, maybe?
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So, the OST has been officially released on the site, and it includes both arranges of all the music and the music for the Extra stage. From rough translations, they're called "Acheron Higan Trip" and "Sword of the Fallen Hero ~ Legend of Sanada" respectively. So... Extra boss related to Sanada Yukimura, maybe?
Wooow, that ex boss theme is intense! I can't help but think of White Names' Spoiled past 1st extra boss' OST. Maybe it's by the same composer? Nonetheless, looking forward even more to the Ex release now!
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I think that it will be my favourite fan made game for long time ^^
Welp, I made a Lunatic clear too, with ReimuA. First objective reached - 10b score!
If anybody wants to see it, here it is: https://youtu.be/VQ-07fst4B8
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Lidera updated with a 21.1b Lunatic and a 19.4b Normal.
He posted the Normal replay. (https://t.co/zyhoxYu8Fm) Note that you need the Effect setting to be at 0, or the replay will desync during the Nezu fight.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvlNmgoUMAEVwH8.jpg:large)
There. Finally managed to do Lunatic No Bomb of this game. lol.
12 misses total. Includes a NMNB stage 5. Managed to hit max resources mid-final boss, but then spend most of those resources dying to random shit everywhere. It's just not even funny how much harder the final boss is compared to the rest of the game, lol. Then again I was using ReimuA.
ReimuA isn't really good at the final boss, but she excels at everything else in the game. I love the Gohei itself, so I'm willing to use her despite SanaeA being the better choice.
Edit: Here's an annotated commentary video of the LNB! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KmjzQSWoyc
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well,kinda of thinking it... how exactly that works? (i know
Fuma Mishandra
will act instantly)
because... in my first run with Sanae Lunatic (triforce mode XD) i managed to recollect each girl last word Except Tobiko
and then i went to try Marisa B Hard,but this time Tobiko's Last word was activated... how do can know?
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There's a number on the left side of the magnitude gauge which is the required amount of wishpoints to activate a last word. Just need to collect enough and the last word will occur.
By the way, instead of making a whole thread, try posting next time on the BoSM thread! It's better that way to keep discussions relevant, and doesn't flood the board with threads, etc.
Good luck!
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but how exactly you determinate which magnitude is enough?
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This is the number that tells you how many wish items you need for the Last Word:
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Oyasu Milka (plot writer) making commentary of the game translation (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/793724139634765824). Oh, and also about the music comments (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/793725296822321153).
I'm not sure if he's delighted or angry over the liberties taken in translating the pun.
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By the way, instead of making a whole thread, try posting next time on the BoSM thread! It's better that way to keep discussions relevant, and doesn't flood the board with threads, etc.
No need for that; I'd merge it as soon as I see it anyway.
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Is there an exact date or is it still just sometime in November?
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We got a sneak peek of the extra stage, it seems~ :3
https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/799245996282650624 (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/799245996282650624)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxd958MVEAAs4Ef.jpg:large)
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O-oh jeez, that's a LOT of arrowhead danmaku... :ohdear: (Though the pattern(s) seem to be fairly static, at least?)
Anyways, looking forward to the extra stage release! (Will it still be this month or...?)
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According to Oyasu Milka's Twitter, they game might be delayed, but since I'm not that good at Japanese, I could be wrong.
https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/803605099884883968 (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/803605099884883968)
https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/802502810029854720 (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/status/802502810029854720)
You might want to check out the Twitter itself because I can't decipher these tweets.
https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/ (https://twitter.com/OyasuMilka/)
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http://th-jss.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2016/12/post-39cc.html
seems like we are getting the EX on the 24th...
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Nezu looks horny in that second screenshot.
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The Ex stage video was posted on NND: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30284623
It seems that the ex patch download itself will be delivered between 8 and 9 PM in Japan, which means it should be in... 1:30 ish hours?
nonetheless, wow. Not gonna spoil anything but this was really well made! I loved it!
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The download link is up anywayz...
I actually laughed out when I first saw the battleship part lolz...
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I just saw someone livestream it and I can say the boss reminds me of Zatsune Miku. Also one of the spellcards might be referencing Sanra from BPOHC
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So I just rebeat the game to be able to try this Extra.
I ended up losing all my lives because for some reason none of my deathbombs seemed to want to work, and also I think the danmaku is uh... a tiny bit ridiculous. Just a tiny bit. Like maybe really ridiculous what the fuck is this garbage.
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BoSM Extra Clear (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4e5LjksQ0o&feature=youtu.be)
Extra Clear, Quality is rather low but im sure it's ok.
My thoughts? : It's a rather fun extra even if I bombed quite a bit on some later patterns. I like most of these spells and the music is pretty fuckin lit too.
Spell histories are accurate.
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That EX boss...
The color palette, the swordplay, the slashing danmaku, the clothes...
Konngara
?
Anyway, i'm guessing the artist tried to attempt something new but i'm not sure what. I say, because of the head <-> body ratio, the size of the arms, the color gradients. Maybe more adult proportions but keeping the moeface.
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<watching from the sidelines again>
The music is very clearly an arrangement of Atago's theme from WNSP, so that means this game has made reference to all of ido's recent works.
The bullet effects on the lances are absolutely spectacular.
Shirukens still look like they're not fun in any context.
IDK what they were trying for with the last couple of spell cards' designs.
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Really good Extra Stage, my only complaint I guess is that the stage portion itself is pretty short. I guess you get so many lives from what's there that itd be too easy otherwise :V.
Only spell I'm not too fond of is the yellow spinny star thing. That attack has basically become the 3 Bomb Tax because I have no idea how the hell it works.
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Only spell I'm not too fond of is the yellow spinny star thing. That attack has basically become the 3 Bomb Tax because I have no idea how the hell it works.
Her 4th spellcard? She'll throw the shurikens and you have to circle closely to her and you'll be fine. Then she'll retract the shurikens and you have to circle her in the direction she pulls them out. Then, you circle again based on if she throws them clockwise or counterclockwise. It's very easy to mess up.
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I love that stage :V.
I hope a computer that a game won't lag on will be back in my home soon.
(Previously tried to complain about very minor stuff, but I retracted, seeing this as immature rambling)
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The music is very clearly an arrangement of Atago's theme from WNSP, so that means this game has made reference to all of ido's recent works.
(Neither WNSP nor this game were made by ido. WNSP was organized by NRT with help from various people, this game was made by Maceknight with help from various people)
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(Neither WNSP nor this game were made by ido. WNSP was organized by NRT with help from various people, this game was made by Maceknight with help from various people)
Thank you. The relationships between these people (or lack thereof) have been getting me turned around.
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I got a pretty scrubby first clear of the Extra stage. I'll probably annotate with my first impressions when I'm free later.
BoSM Extra - SanaeA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5GN5a9_9o)
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The Extra Stage last word captured (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv5_ewRzJ18)
Pretty hard for a last word actually, I imagine a NMNB of this stage will take a long time for someone to do.
marisaB is good
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I've capped every spell in the stage except the survival and goddamn is that card annoying as all hell.
Who let that happen????
(otherwise i love the boss fight its so cool)
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Thank you. The relationships between these people (or lack thereof) have been getting me turned around.
Both WNSP and BoSM use ido's engine, with his permission of course, which is why they're featured on ido's blog. Even though WNSP was organized by NRT, it was mainly coded by raichu (the same guy who made War of Fox and Badger). Raichu also helped with the coding in BoSM. BoSM was originally a music album, with each theme being composed by a different person. Ido composed the staff roll theme. Wanwan, the same guy who composed for TLC, MPP, and RSS, composed the final boss theme. Misora, the guy who composed for WNSP, composes the extra boss theme.
Basically it's all one circle of friends who makes these games. But officially, the only ido games are TLC, MPP, and RSS. Ido more or less said he has no plans of making any more games either.
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The Extra was entertaining...I enjoyed how flashy it was. I'll add my clear with ReimuB to the mix. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IevaPnCXokQ)
It feels like the stage portion itself wasn't made with ReimuB in mind. -_________________-
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Replaying the game over and over and over again (people want someone to upload those spell card graphics to the wiki), so far up to hard modo, some changes:
*Ichiyou, Nezu, and Fuma get new portraits and sprite animations, that are used when declaring their spell card. (We've already seen Fuma's on the extra stage, well, those are also on the main game).
*Fuma's 4th card on hard modo 異神「パズズ＆ドラゴンズ」/ Other Gods "Pazuzu & Dragons" (and presumably lunatic modo, 大悪魔「顕現する七つの大罪」 / Great Demons "Seven Deadly Sins Manifesting", i still haven't done that) replaces its triangular formation of white bullets with a circle of pink heart bullets.
*Fuma's last spell 「フーマ・ミシャンドラ」/ "Fuma Mishandra", so far on all difficulties, instead of making an spiral of stars whose "arms" go outwards in a curvy manner, the spiral "arms" go upwards and then fall again forming linear formation. Those randomized white bullets aimed at the player seem to have a higher density. Overall, the spell is all-around denser and harder.
I still lack lunatic difficulty and Nazu's cards when playing as Marisa and Sanae. Please add more info if you find something.
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And now we wait for the english patch. Has anything been started yet?
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Pls, give me a download link. I got 403 on http://osayou.net/tokusetu/mahojo/download/
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I still lack lunatic difficulty and Nazu's cards when playing as Marisa and Sanae. Please add more info if you find something.
I got around to playing Lunatic as MarisaA and SanaeA. The cards are feel the same as they were on 1.00, Nezu's variants included. However, SanaeA feels nerfed - her focused shot doesn't quite breeze through bosses. (notably, Fuma) I think her unfocused shot still does a ton up close.
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NMNB Clear of the Extra Stage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-qnyD5lsk)
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I just beat the extra, and I learned that for the last word, if you don't get to the final phase then you won't unlock it in spell practice.
This is a terrible oversight. I want my playtime back GRRR
Or, at least an easier way to get to that last word in the extra. Anyone got methods?
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I'm bored.
BoSM Extra - 90fps (https://youtu.be/YnrjBH51Up0)
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I've released an "Ultra" patch for BoSM here (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,20812.0.html).
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Nice patch.
BoSM Ultra Extra - SanaeB (https://youtu.be/WH17TvaEywc)
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A new game was announced. (http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm31442927)
Outside the Traditional World. It's a camera game with everyone from the past four games showing up. There's also apparently new characters, including another Sant'Angelo.
I assume a new thread will probably be made soon(?) once further are announced for this game. (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,20873.0.html)
jesus fuck this game is pretty
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BoSM LNM! (https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=lS2wVy8SQcw)
Incidentally, does anyone know the rank requirements? Despite being 0-miss, this run only got Canopus. I'd push for a higher rank, but I don't know what the requirements are (I assume there's a score requirement too).
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Eh. I did this. Might as well link it now that lag is stopping me from improving it.
SanaeA normal mode 14,790,244,630 no-miss score run (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtRkQE3xLQ)
Fuma gives 718m more than every other boss combined, even with a spell fail.
:ok_hand:
Fuma is such a meme boss for scoring tbh
If I end up finding a way to get rid of the lag I'll probably use MarisaB.
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Oh yeah, with Tri Focuser, now BoSM is part of this canon? I guess? It's weird because ido's the game designer, you know? Other people do the script and the character design. And I'm kinda curious how much of RSS he actually did...