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Title: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 05, 2015, 04:51:20 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/rU0HwkC.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because then you will be feeding the mighty Juggler-empire lead by the Dark Lord YamaP and his army of really good artists.)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to even lowlier dragons to gods like Saiga (above).  They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

Real talk though, the real reason to get into this game is because everyone else here is playing it and has been playing non-stop for the past 2 years :V , and probably won't stop for a long time thanks to the constant updates to the game and its mechanics, balance changes that never directly nerf anything and are mostly focused on increasing the viability of older monsters, and of course the endless addition of new monsters and collabs that are dished out on a regular basis.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here:

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a god).  Great starters include any of the Chinese gods, Ares, Bastet, Isis, Idunn & Idunna, Lu Bu, Zhuge Liang, Odin, Kali, Shiva, Sonia, and many others.  Feel free to ask!

If you need more help or just want to discuss the game, we also have a P&D channel on the MotK IRC network in here. Just type your name and go.
For those using IRC clients other than webchat, the channel is #puzzleandlibrarians on irc.ppirc.net.


List of friends + Main Leaders:
Edible: 328,945,274 (Ronia*, Bastet)
hyorinryu: 357.646.299 (Sakuya, Perseus)
Suikama: 348.941.282 (Isis*, Nut*/Ronia/Athena/Whatever)
triangles: 322.456.235 (LMeta*, Santa Sakuya)
Chaore: 344,844,286 (Verdandi, Shiva*)
Yukarin: 394.177.213 (Haku*, LKali*)
Jq1790: 396,049,294 (Athena, B/G Karin)
Pesco: 328 276 294 (Rodin, Ronia)
Dibble: 314,673,283 (Isis, GOdin)
Matsuri: 358,689,277 (Awoken Parvati*, Pandora)
Fast Fanatic: 359,184,275 (TAMADRAPurin*, Beelzebub*)
Sacchi Hikaru: 385,394,297 (Horus*, Athena)
rdj: 338,277,280 (AA Lucifer, Athena)
Chirei: 326,404,383 (Leilan*, Skuld*)
commandercool: 312,728,337 (Gabriel*, Awoken Ra*)
Aoshi: 398,822,333 (LMeta*, I&I)
Conqueror: 331,616,320 (DQXQ, I&I)
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268 (Athena, LMeta*)
Dorakyura: 347,957,300 (Nepthys)
Bio: 336,681,244 (Sakuya, Athena)
En: 351,629,319 (Lu Bu*, Haku)
moekou: 329,066,242 (Osiris*, Pandora)
Espadas: 301,335,377 (Ronia, B/G Karin)
Calamity: 331,737,355 (Ronia, Athena)

(Asterisk next to leaders means "hypermax" - +297, max skill)

Topic Archive
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Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 05, 2015, 04:52:03 AM
SUFFERING
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Moogs Parfait on July 05, 2015, 05:05:32 AM
BEARER OF THE CURSE.  SEEK MISERY.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 05, 2015, 06:28:59 AM
I did it. It's FINALLY OVER.

(http://i.imgur.com/mrRgHT0.png)

That was the hardest thing I have ever done in this game. Now bring on the ultimate with an arbitrarily different skill!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 05, 2015, 07:18:46 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iRk9SjSu7n4/VZjZuwDQlUI/AAAAAAAABug/vf4b9oBcYRE/w428-h685-no/15%2B-%2B1)

why
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 05, 2015, 08:24:36 AM
Responding to this post (https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18505.msg1196379.html#msg1196379) since the old thread is closed.

2.8M  damages on LKali with what I'm assuming is:

1) A 2x God Enhance from Izanagi
2) Using Fuma active to ensure you have a perfect LKali board
3) Using A.Venus' active to get enhanced light orbs and to match as many Light TPAs as possible

Of course, if you are talking about boss burst, that's all well and good since we can just blow all of the actives on the boss, but i mean, I can do 50% of that damage with just 1 LKali active using A.Ra from the raw multiplier and only 1 TPA. And if I could use Muse, that's x2.5 versus Izanagi's x2.0, which does sometimes makes a difference against bosses with 50% Light resistance or those dumb as fuck 50~75% damage shields. In harder dungeons like Zeus&Hera, Zaerog Infinity, etc. x36 is decent but you will have to take a couple of turns at each boss.

that's just like, my opinion though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 05, 2015, 12:42:55 PM
The problem is that isn't just 2.8 million. I just added it all up and the grand total of all of that damage (estimated, I had to cut off end numbers bc gungho really needs to fix that)  is around 10.2 million.

And of course you need to do multiple turns on Zeus & Hera. EVERY team short of a gravity burst team does. That's kind of the point of perseverance. And Zaerog Infinity cuts any team's damage by 75% for a turn, so that's also moot. Stall a turn and you'll be fine, he'll drop in one blast of that. Yes, even without Izanagi.

And if light drain is really that big of a problem, just, uh, don't use a light team. Not that it really matters because in most cases I've seen so far light/dark drains only seem to show up in cases where you'd be dealing double damage in the first place with those colors, which makes it just like playing with tricolor attributes.

And if that's not enough, Izanagi isn't the only tool I have on hand, he's just the only one I have leveled up. LKali can also use Sandalphon to deal double damage for two turns and survive with damage reduction so any setup should realistically be fine unless you're being smacked with a fuckoff attack, and Sun Quan is also an option too, which gives you at least three turns to kill (provided the boss isn't immune to delay) and two turns of double damage as well to work with. The vast majority of anything isn't going to stand against that kind of damage unless you really fuck up.


Just because you have A. Ra and multiple LKali doesn't make her inferior as a leader alone for those of us who don't have that. Unless you're talking about rushes and C10 and Ultimate Arena which you'll only be doing with ridiculous teams anyway (unless you're rdj, props on the dragon rush kill bro), in which you're setting a pretty fucking unfair standard in the first place.

That's just like, my opinion though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 05, 2015, 01:12:13 PM
Just because you have A. Ra and multiple LKali doesn't make her inferior as a leader alone for those of us who don't have that. Unless you're talking about rushes and C10 and Ultimate Arena which you'll only be doing with ridiculous teams anyway (unless you're rdj, props on the dragon rush kill bro), in which you're setting a pretty fucking unfair standard in the first place.

That's just like, my opinion though.

First of all, the top reason why AA Luci teams face a lot of criticism is because he is very slow and lots of people don't have the amount of patience and strategic thinking that people like Rdj does to be able to clear Rushes etc. with AA Luci or 2/4/2 builds. That doesn't detract from the fact AA Luci builds themselves are one of the top team archetypes for consistent, safe clears of high end content given the correct spread of subs. There are numerous AA Luci and Student Pres. Luci clears of the latest Pii Technical Dungeon which has less RNG dependency than a lot of the so-called ridiculous teams you were referring to. In the first place, LKali is perfectly capable of clearing Rushes. All the quad-color leaders are. I assure you once NA gets access to Zeus&Hera, rdj's pool of content he can clears will be opened up MASSIVELY, Z&H is actually one of the best subs for Luci, he himself does know this and has continuously mentioned this.

Secondly, I was referring to the damage output of the INDIVIDUAL card, not the entire team. Of course if you want to add up the entire damage of the team it still turns out the same way anyway, because naturally if you're referring to the usage of type enhance boosters such as Izanagi / Muse / SQ (for Healer-based LKali) then damage totals are naturally going to spike up, that's just the nature of the beast. At the base it's still essentially the same sort of comparison we're dealing with here. If I applied the Izanagi god-type boost to A.Ra's x100 I'd be doing x200 compared to x72. It is of course unfair to use these multipliers as a metric for comparison because in the first place, A.Ra is a very recent entry into the PAD game whereas LKali is already heading into a year since her release, and her UVO, while very nice, was mostly just a very good bonus to her initial kit compared to A.Ra who, in many cases, is much better than his L/L or L/D counterparts as Ra himself is a very old god.

I have already mentioned in the first place that you shouldn't use A.Ra if you don't have the consistency that LKali brings to the table anyway. I even stopped using A.Ra because I don't own DKali. I'm just mentioning why personally I don't use LKali anymore; back when I was still running her often, Izanagi's x2 burst was not always enough to even one-shot Mephisto in his descended dungeon because most of the time the boards LKali created only gives me 3~5 Light orbs, and because I didn't have Fuma at the time, it was hard for me to compensate. Of course, a lot of high-multiplier spike leads can clear hard end-game content. At this point, we're only discussing which ones have it easier.

I don't know why you're sounding so pissed off at this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 05, 2015, 04:29:13 PM
Looks like chocolate collab two has skillups for all of the sticker girls. Almost makes me want to skillup Kano, although I don't have a team for her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 05, 2015, 04:55:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/mHtQDOy.png) (http://i.imgur.com/gSkOYgy.png)

B R T     F O R E V E R
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 05, 2015, 08:06:36 PM
...I did not remember HDN was Tengu compatible.  I will have to try that someday.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 05, 2015, 08:17:02 PM
shit i think i can actually beat dragon rush

but fucking wood stands in my way once againnnnn
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on July 05, 2015, 08:53:18 PM
shit i think i can actually beat dragon rush

but fucking wood stands in my way once againnnnn

Isn't Threedia your best friend?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 05, 2015, 09:11:09 PM
shit i think i can actually beat dragon rush

but fucking wood stands in my way once againnnnn

I'm with you. Nerf wood.

There's a chance I might be able to bash in Threedia, but I would have to get reeeeally lucky from the water skyfalls from Beyzul's orb increase thing. Honestly I might give it a try later, I've got the stamina to burn.

Edit: Okay, I gave Dragon Rush a try. Got Threedia down to ~10% and died. I can definitely beat this, there were a few levels of variability that went against me. On the Tornado Seal turn I got hit with the one-turn bind, but my board had no hearts and I didn't get any skyfalls, so I wasn't able to heal back up to full to reactivate Beyzul. Had I been able to do that I would've been able to kill Threedia for sure. Of course, that requires me to get the one turn bind instead of the two turn, but I also fucked up and didn't activate  my Beyzul on the first turn against the enemy Beyzul, so he took one turn longer to kill than he should have, meaning I didn't go into Threedia with boosted water drops. Had I done that I would've had a chance to skyfall Threedia past his last sliver.

The other thing where I can see different outcomes was against Wangren. I'm a thousand HP under being able to tank him forever, so I could hold off on this until my Beyzul is hypermax, but that seems a little dubious. Or I could try this with an I&I friend, which might actually work but would make dealing with Zaerog a lot harder. I popped Gabriel against Wangren and I ideally should have popped Valkyrie instead, since that would've let me get a bunch of enhanced orbs on Threedia, again one-shotting him cleanly.

Basically, what it comes down to is that I think I have a decent, but not great, chance of beating this. I'm inclined not to try again right now because there are a lot of things I can do with my stamina.

Edit edit: Alternatively, I could farm this if someone would GIMME ANDROMEDA! That would bump my damage high enough I think. And my HP? It would be good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 06, 2015, 12:53:19 AM
Heads up, looks to be Star Vault tomorrow, seemingly later in the day. Tomorrow should be profitable for me between the last few hours of the boosted technicals and Star Vault.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 06, 2015, 01:15:45 AM
Mine's at 10pm. I'm good to go.

(3x normals where.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on July 06, 2015, 01:37:26 AM
Defound's just destroying me. At least I took care of Threedia and Diagoldos. I like to clear at least one new thing every times these challenges come along.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 06, 2015, 02:01:52 AM
I FINALLY DID IT

I BEAT A LEGEND PLUS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 06, 2015, 02:12:57 AM
(https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/Smileys/default/toot.gif)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 06, 2015, 02:13:33 AM
I FINALLY DID IT

I BEAT A LEGEND PLUS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


pics where
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 06, 2015, 04:15:33 AM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/bikkuri-man3.html

i am honestly not sure what to make of Twitter voting to give YamaP an ult evo
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 06, 2015, 04:39:55 AM
Fatty farming didn't really pay off as much as I hoped. More or less fed everything to Kali and Beelzebub when I should have invested in Perseus/GZL/Sun Quan and so on.

Oh well, at least Kali is max now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 06, 2015, 05:05:06 AM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/bikkuri-man3.html

i am honestly not sure what to make of Twitter voting to give YamaP an ult evo

VENGEANCE IS MINE

i need to figure out a twitter avatar for when i send yamap a tweet of him exploding


edit: (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7R_oaixBjVM/VZooKG87IuI/AAAAAAAABvk/D3CdZmbONBA/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

you're decidedly not kiriko.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 06, 2015, 07:53:28 AM
1) Ark
2) Moebius
3) Saiga
4) Asmodeus Another
5) another Saiga Not Another (no skillup)

Aside from Moebius I think I can find some use for these. We'll see.

also ezpz dungeon but I think I want to see if Minerva or Athena can take it; probably just need something to deal with Gon Yeye in Minerva's case

(http://i.imgur.com/wI9ui8E.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/wI9ui8E.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/fZqlzAvl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/fZqlzAv.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 06, 2015, 08:45:34 AM
edit: (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7R_oaixBjVM/VZooKG87IuI/AAAAAAAABvk/D3CdZmbONBA/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

you're decidedly not kiriko.

You all getting Asmodeus... now I want to roll aswell.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 06, 2015, 01:51:48 PM
5 rolls, no gold

:negative::negative::negative::negative::negative::negative::negative::negative:

:dragonforce: every time somehow every time somehow every time i lose :dragonforce:

:dragonforce: I CAN'T BEAT COLLAB REM MAN, :dragonforce:
:dragonforce: NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I TRY TO PULL I JUST GET SILVERS AGAIN :dragonforce:
:dragonforce: AND EVEN THOUGH I CAN CLEAR RUSHES ITS NO USE :dragonforce:
:dragonforce: I TRY TO PULL BUT I ALWAYS GET SHIT IN THE END :dragonforce:
:dragonforce: I DO ALTS AS FAST AS I CAN :dragonforce:
:dragonforce: BUT WHEN I HAVE TO GO AGAINST THE SHIT RATES I AM HELPLESS AGAIN :dragonforce:

:dragonforce: I'LL TRY AGAIN OF COURSE, BUT THIS IS MY PLAN :dragonforce:
:dragonforce: I'LL KEEP MY STONES SAVED IN RESERVE FOR AS LONG AS I CAN :dragonforce:
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2jNFJjaaZI)
:negative::negative::negative::negative::negative::negative::negative::negative:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 06, 2015, 02:01:02 PM
i bet your next roll will be gold
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 06, 2015, 02:07:03 PM
i bet your next roll will be gold

schrodinger's rem will remain closed until another time in the future
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 06, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
Yeah, I bet I would have pulled three Andromedas in a row if I did more PAD Academy pulls, but they will remain a mystery.

And then I go and look at my Misato and smile. She cost me $20, but I don't regret it. I sure hope your new ultimate is good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 06, 2015, 02:21:37 PM
Did a token roll, got Maxius.  For people without good healer boosting options he'd be pretty good, and he's cheap, too, but for someone with both Arcline -and- SQ?  Uh...yeah.  Not sure if I wanna roll again or not.  Might do one more for fun but that'd be the limit.

Edit: one roll became two, and...not sure if RIP or not.

>Kai
>Apollo

They both look like theyd have their uses soI dunno how to feel.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 06, 2015, 03:44:50 PM
Did a YOLO roll, got Kiriko. How does she look on this Yamato Takeru team?

YT/Suzaku (R/L or Awoken)/Kiriko/Chiyome/Belial/YT

Chiyome is so good because she can do a thing with both board changers. Belial is (eventually) going to be on a shorter cd than YT, so while I can use YT to heal Belial can convert Suzaku's board as well.

Or just replace Belial with a second Awoken Suzaku. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 06, 2015, 05:42:51 PM
Today i was feeling restless so i decided to yoloroll BOTH in the JP Murakore and in the Shinra Collab REM and set my own limit at 3 rolls each.
JP - "Why am i even doing this? There aren't even the exclusives.... i'm going to get trash...."

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-07-06-16-29-40_zpsjeyvcecb.png)

- the split second of cosmic perfection when i realize that in JP i main a team with Verdandi/Osiris/Delgado
"OH HELLL YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!"  :toot:

Other 2 rolls were Marine Rider (!!) and Cerberus Rider  :D


*switch to NA*

"Wish i could get one of the golds, especially Saiga or Asmodeus...."

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-07-06-17-45-33_zpsxbowju2a.png)

*INSERT 1 MINUTE-LONG HYSTERICAL LAUGH*  BV

the other 2 rolls were Kai and Apollo, seems useful enough



Now i just have to resist for 2 weeks the temptation of trying to roll again for Saiga  ::)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 06, 2015, 06:50:04 PM
Did a YOLO roll, got Kiriko. How does she look on this Yamato Takeru team?

YT/Suzaku (R/L or Awoken)/Kiriko/Chiyome/Belial/YT

Chiyome is so good because she can do a thing with both board changers. Belial is (eventually) going to be on a shorter cd than YT, so while I can use YT to heal Belial can convert Suzaku's board as well.

Or just replace Belial with a second Awoken Suzaku. :V
On paper it looks super legit, I'm not gonna lie.  Kiriko's AS is so good.  Does it max at 9 turns like the Norns' do(since hers is basically a remixed version thereof)?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 06, 2015, 07:13:20 PM
Sadly, 10 turns at level 5, like most collaboration mobs. Really weird, since Superman went from 13-9.

Having Awoken Suzaku should bring that down, of course. Eventually.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dr Rawr on July 06, 2015, 07:42:46 PM
I went and did legendary seaway and it was unexpectedly easy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 06, 2015, 07:48:30 PM
Sadly, 10 turns at level 5, like most collaboration mobs. Really weird, since Superman went from 13-9.

Having Awoken Suzaku should bring that down, of course. Eventually.

It's the same thing as apoc- Light and Hearts?! too op, must lengthen

it makes no logical sense but uh, hey i guess.

I'm sure she'll get buffed with ulti. hopefully ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 06, 2015, 09:17:20 PM
Apocalypse has the benefit of reducing everyone else's CD by a turn as well.

I thought that the Norns had a 9 turn cd because hearts were mixed with RBG colors, which were traditionally the only colors that were resisted. Apocalypse was 10 (initially even higher!) because L/D and hearts was a winning combination.

Kiriko seems to suffer from that. To make up for the lack of cd reduction, she doesn't have to skill up nearly as far.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 06, 2015, 09:22:36 PM
Apocalypse has the benefit of reducing everyone else's CD by a turn as well.

I thought that the Norns had a 9 turn cd because hearts were mixed with RBG colors, which were traditionally the only colors that were resisted. Apocalypse was 10 (initially even higher!) because L/D and hearts was a winning combination.

Kiriko seems to suffer from that. To make up for the lack of cd reduction, she doesn't have to skill up nearly as far.

yeah, essentially you get either hearts or light/dark or a longer cooldown, Apoc now has a definite benefit for it, but Kiriko is kind of waiting in the wings for next go around.

Her real benefit is frankly being insanely flexible in color and her amazing rcv tbh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 06, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
today.jpg

(http://i.imgur.com/yZa1prpl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/yZa1prp.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 06, 2015, 11:43:10 PM
wow what this collab rem doesnt have a single water monster

guess my stones are safe then
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 06, 2015, 11:56:51 PM
wow what this collab rem doesnt have a single water monster

guess my stones are safe then
/me raises finger to protest thinking that's ridiculous, reviews REM list and puts hand down

Uh...wow, he's right.  I hadn't even noticed.  Only water in the cards is Apollo and Maxius having it for a subatt.  Huh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 07, 2015, 12:03:45 AM
Not the first time it happened, DC Comics had no fire att either.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 07, 2015, 12:20:21 AM
/me raises finger to protest thinking that's ridiculous, reviews REM list and puts hand down

Uh...wow, he's right.  I hadn't even noticed.  Only water in the cards is Apollo and Maxius having it for a subatt.  Huh.

Shinrabansho took pity on water.

It decided it didn't need more rem gating.

(and also that it sucked)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 07, 2015, 02:55:17 AM
6 full bars spent, only 50 plus eggs obtained.

Fuck this piece of shit game. Had about twelve rounds that didn't drop one motherfucking plus egg.

Kali +120 -> +170, I guess.

I could have spent those 5 stones on other shit. Like more fat dragons. At least those always drop.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 07, 2015, 04:40:18 AM
6 full bars spent, only 50 plus eggs obtained.

Fuck this piece of shit game. Had about twelve rounds that didn't drop one motherfucking plus egg.

Kali +120 -> +170, I guess.

I could have spent those 5 stones on other shit. Like more fat dragons. At least those always drop.

Daaaamn that's rough. My run was up and down, but it averaged out to decent. 67 eggs for five bars. Much better than last time (and even that was way better than the one you just had).

I dumped all mine in Verdandi, I guess I'm gonna hypermax her next. Why not?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 07, 2015, 06:00:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/3wlL632.png)

WITNESS ME












Edit:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m3x0sIQtiog/VZtpiOHXVhI/AAAAAAAABxU/vAfZNmYCPtg/w361-h641-no/15%2B-%2B)

WITNESS

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9jap58eoJ3s/VZtpmZATEiI/AAAAAAAABx4/s7iL-WHRgHw/w361-h641-no/15%2B-%2B1)

ME

edibull note: bother me in the morning when i am less drunk and more awake if things are unacceptable
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 07, 2015, 08:22:51 AM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150707_skill.html

For Norse Gods, their damage nuke became a cooldown charge-up.

For Laila, Sharon and Wee Jas (both versions), the AS makes orbs on the bottom most row instead of the original position.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 07, 2015, 09:12:55 AM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150707_skill.html

For Norse Gods, their damage nuke became a cooldown charge-up.

For Laila, Sharon and Wee Jas (both versions), the AS makes orbs on the bottom most row instead of the original position.

Nice buff to norse but I think we all expected that to happen when they give them awoken ults, so rip I guess.
Still want them to do something about that +HP awakening. >:(

But having all my Andromedas and Gabriel become 6cd heartmakers sounds amazing, that combined with 34k hp and 4k rcv means it's pretty hard to kill the team without binds. This should be pretty fun. :O
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 07, 2015, 09:38:45 AM
Woo. I knew I max skilled I&I, both Gabriels, U&Y, and Ruka for a reason.

Ruka doing her thing every 5 turns? Holy crow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 07, 2015, 11:20:17 AM
For Laila, Sharon and Wee Jas (both versions), the AS makes orbs on the bottom most row instead of the original position.

great, Sharon was most shitty of their abilitys. that is a good thing, sadly their stat aren't that great

Norse seem great
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 07, 2015, 11:24:10 AM
VIC

TO

RYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

(http://i.imgur.com/jb9Qv99.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 07, 2015, 12:17:46 PM
WITNESS

boi i thought you had no money
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 07, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
Norse buff: I had been gravitating away from I&I and toward Metatron or even low-level Sun Quans lately, and I'm not sure I care that much about this buff. There are times it will be a lifesaver, for sure, but outside of rare cases on the first few turnss or when racing a countdown attack, my team rarely cares about one turn of cooldown. It's much more important to conserve actives than to have them up slightly faster.

Not to say it's not a good buff though. Seems great on double norse teams, and hopefully it encourages at least a few people to start playing Norse again. I just did another friend list purge this morning and last night, and between inactivity and leader changrs I'm down to two consistent I&I friends AGAIN. This is becoming a monthly thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 07, 2015, 02:27:49 PM
A shame their CDs are complete garbage when not max skill, though. This doesn't really make up for that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 07, 2015, 03:25:46 PM
A shame their CDs are complete garbage when not max skill, though. This doesn't really make up for that.

"Earth Enhancement" 17 Turns ( 9 Turns at Lv.9 )

"Dark Terror Mist" 17 Turns ( 12 Turns at Lv.6 )

 :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 07, 2015, 03:39:36 PM
^ I definitely think Neph's skill needs a shorter cooldown, but in fairness it's a much better ability than pre-buff Norse.  Dark Enhance with a baked-in orb enhance is fantastic.  And the primary issue with Norse is that skilling them up is like pulling all your baby teeth, waiting for your adult teeth to grow in, and then pulling all those.

Speaking of cooldown buffs, I just noticed that max skill Asmodeus is sitting at 10 turns.  Rather high for a 5-color board change; would be nice to see them bring it down to 7 or 8.

Totes gonna use her anyway though!  :toot:  Upcoming mainstay in at least three teams, and makes one of those teams actually usable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 07, 2015, 04:01:02 PM
^ I definitely think Neph's skill needs a shorter cooldown, but in fairness it's a much better ability than pre-buff Norse.  Dark Enhance with a baked-in orb enhance is fantastic.  And the primary issue with Norse is that skilling them up is like pulling all your baby teeth, waiting for your adult teeth to grow in, and then pulling all those.

Sure, the enhancer is nice, but only useful if you changed orbs, since double Neph already has 80% chance to skyfall enhanced dark orbs.
Though I never use Neph if I don't change orbs... so...

Speaking of cooldown buffs, I just noticed that max skill Asmodeus is sitting at 10 turns.  Rather high for a 5-color board change; would be nice to see them bring it down to 7 or 8.

Totes gonna use her anyway though!  :toot:  Upcoming mainstay in at least three teams, and makes one of those teams actually usable.

Someone wrote that this seems to be normal for collab pulls  ???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 07, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
Though I never use Neph if I don't change orbs... so...

Bingo :V

Quote
Someone wrote that this seems to be normal for collab pulls  ???

Asmo is the only five-color collab gold in the game, iirc.  Fat Chocobo is a six-color (with heal baked in), but it's a giveaway.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 07, 2015, 05:54:18 PM
boi i thought you had no money

that situation actually changed a bit before sb2

mind i should not have used it here instead of otterkon but WORTH

Speaking of cooldown buffs, I just noticed that max skill Asmodeus is sitting at 10 turns.  Rather high for a 5-color board change; would be nice to see them bring it down to 7 or 8.

Totes gonna use her anyway though!  :toot:  Upcoming mainstay in at least three teams, and makes one of those teams actually usable.

I think it's the same thing as Kiriko- hearts addition ontop of dark orbs, while also being a step below Dkali orb number wise.

But yeah, 3 turns more was a bit too high. Both kiriko and Asmo need buffs once Sb2 returns in jp, kinda.

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150707_skill.html

For Norse Gods, their damage nuke became a cooldown charge-up.

For Laila, Sharon and Wee Jas (both versions), the AS makes orbs on the bottom most row instead of the original position.

on one hand i actually get a lot of minor mileage out of freyr's nuke

on the other hand

holy shit, norse just got back in the game tbh- but uh, does this mean you're not giving them awoken ultis anytime soon ;;

Wizards getting better orb placement is great though, but the least of their worries tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 07, 2015, 07:07:20 PM
That's my concern, yeah. I was hoping Norse would be seeing something better than this soon, but the skill CDs are still a deal breaker for me. Maybe if their skillups were less ass to farm...

Speaking of, we haven't seen anything about new ult Greek 2.0s since the new persephone art. Wonder how they're changing.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 07, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
I hope they leave the skills alone this time. I JUST finished Apollo and it took forever. Wishful thinking I know, but the skills are kind of their whole selling point.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 07, 2015, 07:30:18 PM
I hope they leave the skills alone this time. I JUST finished Apollo and it took forever. Wishful thinking I know, but the skills are kind of their whole selling point.
Well since they're branching ults and not Awokens they'd prob stay the same AS with a slightly more relevant-to-today LS, right?  Isn't that what the twinlit Norse ults were basically?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 07, 2015, 07:40:01 PM
I just want awakenings that aren't awful across the board :(

I think the best one is hermes, poor ares has two dark resists
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 07, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
Well since they're branching ults and not Awokens they'd prob stay the same AS with a slightly more relevant-to-today LS, right?  Isn't that what the twinlit Norse ults were basically?

Oh that's right, I forgot they weren't awoken. Should be fine then.

I don't think their awakenings are awful, just fine. Apollo at least has the minimum requirements to pull his weight. Of course I'd like more, and I'll probably get more, but he's totally acceptable as is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 07, 2015, 08:28:08 PM
Indeed to the fact that their active skills are their selling point; various monsters have received buffs to their awoken skill pool over time but nobody has received -active skill- buffs as much as they have.

What wasn't appreciated was how they implemented it, unlike the Sticker Girls. "Oh, you skill maxed them? Oops"

"Hey we know you skill maxed them again, so we wanted to preemptively say sorry."
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 07, 2015, 10:00:59 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tnjxWUGEBhg/VZxKLpKw6BI/AAAAAAAABzQ/qei92c0nKxQ/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

The kiriko hype is so very real today.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 07, 2015, 10:45:59 PM
They probably won't reveal anything big like new Persephone skills and exciting new stuff until the Friday video.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 08, 2015, 01:51:46 AM
Asmo is the only five-color collab gold in the game, iirc.  Fat Chocobo is a six-color (with heal baked in), but it's a giveaway.

Yes, this is correct. The Khezu Neko in MH4G collab is a four-color board changer, so she wouldn't count either.

I just want awakenings that aren't awful across the board :(

I think the best one is hermes, poor ares has two dark resists

I'm inclined to agree with this; Hermes Ult does probably have the best one. I still don't know why Ares has 2 Blind resist.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 08, 2015, 01:54:32 AM
[20:17] <Chirei> Chirei Tries It: Playing with no Time Extends

(http://i.imgur.com/YFQA0tf.png)

-several minutes later-

Chirei Tries It: Playing with one time extend

(http://i.imgur.com/NMWs4tX.png) (http://i.imgur.com/gsiehu8.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 08, 2015, 04:14:11 AM
Kaguya having her own floor is a less than mixed blessing when the drop rate for fucking Kiriko cards are higher than her own drop rate
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 08, 2015, 04:21:24 AM
I'm still not really sure how the cards drop at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2015, 04:36:29 AM
From clearing SB1 all the way through and SB2 on Mythical and Legend, my best guess is 50/50 for either drop. I wouldn't be shocked to hear the cards drop much higher than the monsters, I've been seeing a lot of them, but my sample size is small.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 08, 2015, 05:26:46 AM
It's a frustrating disparity for me because I'm getting more Kiriko cards than I am Kaguyas-- and even if I had Kiriko, she needs WAY fewer skillups to max than Astaroth does because GH really hates the archdemons I guess.

To be honest I don't know why I'm pushing so hard to skillmax her-- she'll be only an occasional sub on my Parvati team unless I get a Verdandi or something. It's more or less just because I like her a lot and I've always loved her character design, I suppose.

Maybe I'll make a Cauchemar team sometime still, but skilling him up would be even worse >_o
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 08, 2015, 07:50:03 AM
I'm inclined to agree with this; Hermes Ult does probably have the best one. I still don't know why Ares has 2 Blind resist.

The god of war shouldn't get fog of war.  :V

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ giff news, I want to see Persephone dark / green healer.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 08, 2015, 09:23:46 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/618707524942823424

ok here's your persephone dark/green healer

by the way she's God/Healer and not Devil

and 2 TPAs and 2 Rows because why not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 08, 2015, 10:32:39 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/618707524942823424

ok here's your persephone dark/green healer

by the way she's God and not Devil

and 2 TPAs and 2 Rows because why not.

 :o :o :o :o :o

 :toot:

All my +eggs I saved up will go to her
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 08, 2015, 11:07:02 AM
HP and ATK took a hit, devil type lost, shitty LS doesn't appear to have changed.

Suddenly very much less enthused. The rows and tpas are nice of course but I'm not sure if that sways me from using her as a devil, which was her main draw for me. Dark Healers are kind of nonexistent in the grand scheme of things, so typewise it does her no favors, but she'll be obviously great on dark teams.

On the other hand, way better Pandora/DMeta sub.

Hm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 08, 2015, 11:40:50 AM
Well, her weight is quite lower, compared to her devil ult.
from 761,97 to 734,6

no wait, her weight must be even lower, usually in the status screen, the +100 attack is calculated in right away? so her wait drops by another 40 total?
So her weight is only 13 higher than the non ult form.

Or maybe they forgot about that.
        basic             devil          healer
HP   2939      --      0       --      -300
ATK 1007      --      +400 --      +130
RCV 560        --      0       --      +80
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 08, 2015, 12:18:01 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/J9mKGIG.png)

ya you can go die, Wadatsumi. I wasted enough stamina on you
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2015, 12:21:50 PM
Hmm, so lower stats, weirder types, better awakenings? I guess I can live with that. The black healer thing is interesting. So presumably they'll all be given virtually unsupported types (white balanced, blue attacker, etc.) as an offset to the huge awakening creep? I like that, it makes picking an ultimate more of a real choice than "newest one is always best one".
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 08, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
Two TPAs and two dark rows gives Persephone more usability than she ever had as a devil (and honestly, devil teams usually had better options than her).  I suspect she'll now be a core sub of any dark lead that isn't devil-centric, both for the solid awakenings and the nice boost to RCV.

Plus who knows, maybe she and Awoken Haku will be the start of some new dark healer meta. :V  (Claire can come too)

Things could get especially interesting if the other greek ults follow a similar pattern.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 08, 2015, 01:08:57 PM
Yeah, she's by no means bad-- it's just that I was very much planning on using her with Beelzebub and she could have used those new awakenings there very, very well.  On the other hand, I have two Persephone, so surely I can utilize both.

She should go well with awoken Haku. Maybe an Awoken Haku team that can be boosted by Sun Quan? Hmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 08, 2015, 01:30:59 PM
As of five hours ago, the following art data has been downloaded into the NA client, here's a text rundown:

-Sphinx
-Awoken Shiva
-Awoken Bastet
-Awoken Ra
-Awoken Horus
-Awoken Meimei
-Riders 2.0
-Cao Cao ults
-Aamir
-Zhou Yu
-Refive
-LMeta TAMADRA
-Water Cat Dragon, Russian Nyadra & minion
-Wood Cat Dragon, Calico Nyadra & minion
-Ult Krishna, Sarasvati, & Durga
-Ult Light & Dark Golem (Expect Machine-type support soon?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 08, 2015, 01:44:41 PM
Here are the cards which require 7.9.2 update support:

Ult. Krishna
Ult. Sarasvati
Light Mech General Cielospada
Dark Mech General Heisferzen

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 08, 2015, 02:02:46 PM
At first I was only excited for my Awoken Flaming Chicken cause fuck yes horus.

Now I'm excited for both new!persephone (for my future pandora team) and Awoken Karin (for the Awoken Lakshmi team), despite having not really started on either of them :V

And of course, Uvo!Vishnu cause he's ridiculous.

Gungho why you do this to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 08, 2015, 03:23:25 PM
Guys i need your opinions: as soon as possible i'll evolve my Shiva to Awoken and i plan to build up a team on it. I still have 3 REM rolls available.

Should i try to get Kiriko for A.Shiva? She looks really good for him but i'm not sure if she would have space on the team....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 08, 2015, 04:30:26 PM
What are your other options?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 08, 2015, 04:59:18 PM
Ugghh. God/Healer, D/G Persephone is just so -odd-. I would want to use her with Awoken Haku, but she loses that precious red sub-attribute. No longer does she fit on Beelzebub, either.

What am I supposed to do? Use Persephone on LZL? :/

Gives me a reason to field DIzanami on Haku, I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 08, 2015, 05:34:26 PM
Just imagine how good your damage reduction will be, stacked with A. Haku!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 08, 2015, 05:49:12 PM
What are your other options?

Fire-main with at least 1 TPA (even if i list the final form many of them aren't fully evolved yet):

Kagutsuchi x2
ADQ Hera-Ur
Burning Phoenix Knight, Homura
Dino Rider, Wild Drake
Zeta Hydra
Fire Dragon Knight
Armored Tyrannos
Guan Yinping
Awoken Horus
Ifrit
Shinra Sun God Apollo


....and Ronia  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on July 08, 2015, 05:50:14 PM
I like how she kept those stat awakenings. Still wish she were balanced though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 08, 2015, 06:06:20 PM
I like how she kept those stat awakenings. Still wish she were balanced though.

Yeah, I'm on board with picking crazyballs types, but dark balanced IS crazyballs right now. Loki still needs a loooot of help. It's not like blue healer at all, or even white attacker.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 08, 2015, 06:12:17 PM
Should i try to get Kiriko for A.Shiva? She looks really good for him but i'm not sure if she would have space on the team....

Kiriko is good, but once we got prong Cao Cao, Urd ends up competitive with her again.

The thing is, you also have neither parts of their combo, and cao cao and urd are always available- If you've already rolled, I'd not super suggest going hard unless you feel like it.


-Awoken Meimei

I AM PREPARED.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 08, 2015, 07:23:43 PM
I feel like I must be doing something wrong re: asmo skillups.  I haven't gotten a single one in the last two days.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 08, 2015, 07:34:54 PM
I feel like I must be doing something wrong re: asmo skillups.  I haven't gotten a single one in the last two days.

if i remember, they're fairly rare compared to kiriko cards.

I was uh

on like int when it was in jp though
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 08, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
I've gotten two asmo and three kiriko total.  I'm just running mythical sb2 collab over and over, should I be doing it on another difficulty?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 08, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
I've gotten two asmo and three kiriko total.  I'm just running mythical sb2 collab over and over, should I be doing it on another difficulty?

Mythical would likely be best for the highest drop chance.

Asmo cards share a floor with Sai/Bem Gist, so that's prolly the biggest issue.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 09, 2015, 02:10:03 AM
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7/14 - Zeus Mercury Descended!
7/15 - Medjedra Descended!
7/16 - Sandalphon Descended!
7/17 - Noah Descended!
7/18 - Izanami Descended!
7/18 - Gaia Descended!
7/19 - Cauchemar Descended!
7/19 - Xuanzang Descended!
■⑥ Awesome Daily Bonuses
Pal Egg Event:
7/10 - 7/19 - Rare Evo Materials
Dungeon Bonus:
5x chance for +Eggs to appear in Technical Dungeons [extends until 7/20 (Mon), 12:00 PM PDT]
2x King appearance rates for the Metal and Jewel Dragons
Fusion Bonus:
2.5x Skill Up rate
Drop Bonus:
2x Drops for the Daily Special Dungeons
2x Coins for the Weekend Dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 09, 2015, 02:45:14 AM
ITS FINALLY COMING
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 09, 2015, 02:45:41 AM
riddles were the sphix's thing too
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 09, 2015, 02:48:54 AM
riddles were the sphix's thing too
thatsthejoke.jpg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 09, 2015, 03:16:14 AM
■④ Special Event Content
A challenging riddle for all players to solve!
7/10 - 7/13 - ????????????

 :toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 09, 2015, 03:38:23 AM
New series and rem updates on twitter:

Wizard destroying zodiac mechas with haste added to column+row changes

one for prong, one for row in each color

also, 3*s and all evolved forms being removed

rem just got super good
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 09, 2015, 03:59:24 AM
welp time to save my stones for the next like year
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 09, 2015, 04:15:19 AM
the biggest announcements are still yet to come...

it's still Thursday in Japan

EDIT

kanna and satsuki new gfes...

both have 3 tpa.

kanna obsoleted izanagi. bye
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 09, 2015, 05:57:04 AM
the biggest announcements are still yet to come...

it's still Thursday in Japan

EDIT

kanna and satsuki new gfes...

both have 3 tpa.

kanna obsoleted izanagi. bye

Kanna as lead is also like what Athena used to be except on steroids. wow
1.5x hp for dragon types, 3.5x atk for god types.
If Apollo gets the same treatment as Persephone he'd be the perfect sub.

And you thought liu bei was OP? Gungho presents Satsuki system. GG everyone we're back to dark OP age.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 09, 2015, 06:26:01 AM
And you thought liu bei was OP? Gungho presents Satsuki system. GG everyone we're back to dark OP age.

gungho took the community's claims as a challenge

-they took it as a challenge and unleashed true terror-
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 09, 2015, 06:35:46 AM
at this rate pantheons are more GFEs than GFEs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 09, 2015, 07:50:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zFJdaA2l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/zFJdaA2.jpg)

S-ranking this will probably take some luck. Had to use MS on Gon Yeye so I didn't have any way to force Kagato into his countdown mode (which would have stopped him from converting all my hearts away why you do this :fail:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 09, 2015, 12:42:53 PM
And you thought liu bei was OP? Gungho presents Satsuki system. GG everyone we're back to dark OP age.
(http://i.imgur.com/2GvKmYx.png)


KIIIIRYUUUUIIIIIN SAAAATSUUUKIIIIII
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 09, 2015, 04:30:19 PM
Really gonna have to fight Hera-Ur hard in a few days if I wanna get two green jewels so I can make awoken Meimei. What a pain.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 09, 2015, 05:04:42 PM
Oh shit, making Awoken Meimei didn't really occur to me. I guess I don't really use my Athena team much any more, but I still might be able to use her. I probably have that many green orbs laying around, but I haven't prepped for her and I don't want to drown my box in orbs digging through my mailbox for the green ones. And those skillups were so painful to get... Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do about her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 09, 2015, 05:17:12 PM
I just realized how much potential Awoken Meimei has, thus my sudden interest. I'm considering an attacker-heavy team so I can put GZL to use without having to worry as much about squishiness since Meimei is bulky and her damage reduction effectively doubles my HP against wood/light/dark.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 09, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
I need to finish leveling Yinping and Zhao Yun.  Otherwise I have like 8 green orbs for some reason so I should be good to go re: meimei.

Got a Hikari from the SB2 invade.  That's a really good heal she's got.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 09, 2015, 06:46:19 PM
So, I met Hikari in my latest run of SB2.  Apparently I need to use GZL and just blow her away or else I lose.

Huh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 09, 2015, 09:32:54 PM
This game...... this f****ng game.......

In my NA account i am constantly in need of Dub-Mythlit, no matter how many Sky Prison / KoTG i run, while being swamped with RGB dub-lits to the point that sometimes i have to SELL them to make space.

In my JP account i've finally got Vishnu ready to evolve from his base form, i only need one Dub-Emelit.

5 runs of Friday Dungeon Expert....... i dropped EVERY - SINGLE - LIT - POSSIBLE multiple times and got 6 Dub-Mythlit (1 invaded) BUT NOT A SINGLE FREAKING DUB-EMELIT!

Sometimes i really understand those players that hack PAD, even just for the satisfaction of giving the finger to the RNG and forcing it to drop what you want.....  :X
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 10, 2015, 02:42:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wIXjTEIl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/wIXjTEI.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/FEHlZJWl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/FEHlZJW.jpg)

Don't be me, kids.

Don't be me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 10, 2015, 04:12:02 AM
>sell rem monsters for additional awakenings

oh boy super whale time


on the bright side if you have too many dupe rodins, you dont have to spend all of those resources to max level him just for the skill up, and instead you can just trade him in for a py!

...well half a py lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 10, 2015, 04:43:58 AM
I'm hoping that they reconsider the rates for farmable monsters, since five for a biweekly dragon means probably less (or maybe none) for monsters weaker than that. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 10, 2015, 05:14:10 AM
>sell rem monsters for additional awakenings

oh boy super whale time


on the bright side if you have too many dupe rodins, you dont have to spend all of those resources to max level him just for the skill up, and instead you can just trade him in for a py!

...well half a py lol

i'm just gonna hope they let you sell py for a lot

time to farmmmmmm
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 10, 2015, 05:16:01 AM
I'm hoping that they reconsider the rates for farmable monsters, since five for a biweekly dragon means probably less (or maybe none) for monsters weaker than that. orz

if descends aren't worth atleast 100, somethings wrong tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 10, 2015, 06:17:26 AM
more proof that if I change my avatar to a god I don't have yet I'll get the god

(http://i.imgur.com/JW8UWB2.png)

rolled 10 times today, good:

(http://i.imgur.com/WhdhuhI.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 10, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/PeIDARr.png)
4 Green TPAs 7 combos.
The perfect bastet board, nordis you're so dead even if you have like 17mil hp for a green team maan.


<Dorakyura> THAWS
<Dorakyura> GIVE STATS
(of persephone)
(http://i.imgur.com/kjNzz5p.png)
<Thaws> so elite man that atk
<trance|work> 1337
<trance|work> so elite
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 10, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/619441723261894656

Non-IAP method to get monster points is by getting these play-dragons and sell them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 10, 2015, 10:51:32 AM
I don't think it is possible to have worse luck than me.

2.5 skillup:
Astaroth: 0/8
Arthur: 1 out of fucking 2 (note: I don't even care about this dude)

Rare evo machine, hoping for green jewels, 46 rolls: 2 gold keepers I don't need.

Sigh.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 10, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
Asmodeus UVO confirmed (http://i.imgur.com/S2twKnm.jpg)

gungho pls

EDIT:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJjVyW8UEAAMIf5.png)

:)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 10, 2015, 12:49:19 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MdeUBTnNUlU/VZ9vSTAf1aI/AAAAAAAAB2k/R21RlbqeoYw/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

Asmodeus UVO confirmed (http://i.imgur.com/S2twKnm.jpg)

gungho pls

okay but

kiriko too, right? ;; Also wow, that's a really quick revival if we're getting it soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 10, 2015, 01:25:23 PM
Asmodeus UVO confirmed (http://i.imgur.com/S2twKnm.jpg)

yyyyes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 10, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
<Dorakyura> THAWS
<Dorakyura> GIVE STATS
(of persephone)
(http://i.imgur.com/kjNzz5p.png)
<Thaws> so elite man that atk
<trance|work> 1337
<trance|work> so elite

 :toot:

Asmodeus UVO confirmed (http://i.imgur.com/S2twKnm.jpg)

I was not planing to roll on this but this makes me kinda want to get her now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 10, 2015, 02:43:22 PM
I might be done with Twinlits now. WKali 2 is skill level five, BKali is max. Might keep going until I have two more Devilits for reserve, but I kind of just want to finish WKali with a Shynpy.

👍
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: triangles on July 10, 2015, 03:31:10 PM
What's the best level of SB2 to do if all I'm after are the wafflebros for Fuu skill ups?  To my knowledge there isn't a pre-evolved form to worry about.  I can beat Mythical without trouble assuming I don't make a stupid human error it's just a bit of a slog, but if I can do a lower stamina floor for basically the same chances I'm all about that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 10, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
sb2 is kind of a lot less cool than expected

kiriko has spoiled me, asmo is going to be a fuckin' pain to skill up ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 10, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
Just finished evolving my Izanagi, and I like him way less than I thought I did. My basic requirements for decent awakenings are "some offensive ability" (check) and "a skillboost" (no check). I was considering replacing GZL on my Athena farm team with him, but losing a prong and two skillboosts does not seem worth better colors, a better boost, and more HP to be multiplied. Am I overlooking something, or is he kind of chumpy? Swap out that attack up for a skillboost and I'd be a lot more interested.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 10, 2015, 05:28:45 PM
Izanagi shines in places where skill boosts aren't super necessary. He's bulky and fairly strong. But  he's just straight up good on full God teams.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 10, 2015, 06:32:24 PM
One roll in the JP godfest (will probably forever be no-iap): KUSHINADAHIME! The green onslaught keep coming (and she wasn't even at 3x!)  :D

The new NA godfest will be the death of my wallet but i still have a small decision to make:

- Day 2 might convince me to buy for the first time a full stock of stones: i have zero angels and only DQXQ, and more important i need literally EVERY single 3k god i miss: Cao Cao for A.Shiva, Lu Bu for Ronia, Liu Bei for Osiris/Verdandi/GZL, Sun Quan for Andro/Karin

- from Egypt 1 i lack Isis and Bastet, but of the Archdemons i only have Astaroth, and the others aren't half bad (especially FA Luci for Ronia)...


can't decide if i should just dump everything on Day 2 or save 1-2 rolls for Day 1
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 10, 2015, 09:15:16 PM
I'm going back to saving, seems like sb2 revival with new cards is coming. Gotta roll those too down the line.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 10, 2015, 10:04:25 PM
Questionable use of a stone and 270 stam, but Artemis is now max level and SLv 5.  Just four more...

Now it gets to suck since i either have to hunt pys or waste blocks of 150k experience to try skilling her further, but alas.  At least it isn't Izanagi(who got turbodunked by that new GFE over in JP land anyway holy crap).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 11, 2015, 12:26:51 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-G5chxD4bhpE/VaBiPmvbMhI/AAAAAAAAB3o/q7-qA-_-Lco/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

have you praised our wonderous angel overlord today

i have
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 01:12:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pgssfzJ.jpg)

Was that supposed to be so disappointingly easy? 😴
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 11, 2015, 01:32:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EjvWCJJ.png)

Thou whom the thirty seven gods didst make
And whom the serpent of Ra didst put in chains
Thou who wast fettered with links of iron
In the presence of Raaaaaaaaaa
 (https://youtu.be/UBkDBWi4Tug?t=1m34s)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 11, 2015, 02:29:26 AM
well he's boned

(http://i.imgur.com/7oLADkL.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 11, 2015, 02:34:06 AM
sphinx 2 ez

but i still have to wait several more months ;__________;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 11, 2015, 02:38:28 AM
Would someone with power over the player list edit my entry to Gabriel*, Awoken Ra* please? I actually haven't used Reine as a lead in a looooong time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 11, 2015, 03:26:35 AM
i have 11 angelits and 0 dkali skillups -__-

welp maybe if i can pull ra + kali i can try this top tier thing
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 11, 2015, 05:48:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/K6SnYftl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/K6SnYft.jpg)

I am reasonably sure that Sopdet is the actual boss of this dungeon.

(http://i.imgur.com/GCFdSaol.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GCFdSao.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/h80PqLrl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/h80PqLr.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 11, 2015, 06:25:07 AM
My first godfest video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJoHm5O4f44)

notable pulls:

2nd Liu Bei
Kushinada
Avalon Drake
LZL (he's x1 rate too...)
4th Tsubaki

still no Satsuki or Kanna. Not meant to be I suppose
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 11, 2015, 07:21:05 AM
still no Satsuki or Kanna. Not meant to be I suppose

You forgot to put them in your avatar  :V

P.S. You have no idea just how much i hate Friday Dungeon and levelling up skill-up materials right now. I had some Dark Fairies ready to evolve to skill-up Pandora, just missed the Amelits.... 26 FUCKING RUNS OF SHRINE OF SPIRITS TO GET 8 OF THEM! Like hell they have the same spawn rate as the other lits in lower floors! I've seen them almost as often as the MYTHLIT! I don't think i'll ever do this again.... i prefer to use BADPY to finish Pandora, less rage-inducing...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 07:40:22 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FuiLfiY.jpg)

You are not Bastet or Isis.

But I'll definitely not complain.

Edit: actually, I will. I have no heart makers that work with this fucker. Why couldn't you be Typhon?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 11, 2015, 08:14:31 AM
Be like Chaore and me. Roll a Kiriko.

The typical Gadius gameplan is spam Uriel? Hmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 08:46:21 AM
Fuck that, I'm not rolling SB only to get a silver egg.

And yeah, Uriel and Takeru are Gadius' best subs.

I guess I can always skill up a Sopdet or something???

Edit: Mitsuki. I have Mitsuki. But can I manage to skill her and Astaroth up in a week?

Edit 2: I have Red Riding Hood, too. She could work!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 11, 2015, 09:12:17 AM

Edit 2: I have Red Riding Hood, too. She could work!

she has a row too so it's fine, yeah.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 09:20:04 AM
The only problem is that she can't be skilled up without flampy. Mitsuki can.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 11, 2015, 09:23:41 AM
The only problem is that she can't be skilled up without flampy. Mitsuki can.

Wait, she can't?

*checks PDX*

...Oh. Okay, gotcha.

Sometimes I have to wonder who thought it was a smart idea to make skillups of some monsters from collabs NA won't ever get? I mean seriously.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 11, 2015, 09:26:59 AM
Belial gives his regards.

At least, Flampys drop from the most rewarding of the Alt dungeons, Castle of Satan. Still not a good solution.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 11, 2015, 09:27:56 AM
Belial gives his regards.

Belial and his whopping 3 or 4 skillups all from JP-only collabs. Goddamn, why?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 09:41:59 AM
Because JP has no reason to give a shit about us over here.

Mitsuki has a row and her stats aren't 100% terrible. At the very least she has an HP awakening to get her over the 2000 HP threshold of "at least it's better than Hanzo".

If I run Gadius/ROdin/ROdin/Mitsuki/something fairly bulky, I should be okay.

Overall I'm just rather disappointed it's not Typhon, who is better in pretty much every way possible (and who I have a ton of workable subs for).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 11, 2015, 01:18:37 PM
Decided to rolls 2 times for Day 1 just to have no regrets before Day 2 Madness.

2 rolls, 2 golds!

Too bad they were Strawberry Dragon and Astaroth, the ONLY Archdemon i already possessed  :trollface:

Basically i rolled a Tamadra for my own recently maxskilled Strawberry Dragon and ...... the second piece of a full Astaroth team?  :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Save her for the inevitable awoken evo!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 11, 2015, 01:58:51 PM
Fuck that, I'm not rolling SB only to get a silver egg.

And yeah, Uriel and Takeru are Gadius' best subs.

I guess I can always skill up a Sopdet or something???

Edit: Mitsuki. I have Mitsuki. But can I manage to skill her and Astaroth up in a week?

Edit 2: I have Red Riding Hood, too. She could work!

An excuse to play a sticker girl is to be embraced. Mitsuki skillups are even available right now. Play Mitsuki, and secretly curse her for not being Takeru.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 11, 2015, 02:01:50 PM
Save her for the inevitable awoken evo!

Can you imagine when all the old pantheons get Awoken evos?

EDIT:

0/13 kushinada skillups during x2.5, kill me
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 02:34:54 PM
It's pretty vital that they do honestly. The power creep is super real and giving old cards chances to be relevant in the meta is important, lest people stop caring about them for the new shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 11, 2015, 03:00:39 PM
i got another isis

this would have been nice IF I GOT SS ISIS BUT NOPE THE DREAM IS ALREADY DEAD :fail:


why do i always get what i want AFTER i stop needing them why
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 11, 2015, 03:03:00 PM
It's pretty vital that they do honestly. The power creep is super real and giving old cards chances to be relevant in the meta is important, lest people stop caring about them for the new shit.

I agree.

1/20 Kushinada today. Depressing. 0x2.5 is still 0.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 11, 2015, 03:14:31 PM
2/5 Astaroth today, which is about 4/20 Astaroth for this event, and about 5/50 Astaroth overall. orz

Five to go.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 11, 2015, 04:01:12 PM
My godfest yoloroll was apocalypse

i mean i fucking love you and everything you're an amazing dragon but what the fuck do i do with you.

@edit

i guess i can put you in my athena team in place of izanagi once you're evolved and fully awoken???????? idk
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 11, 2015, 04:11:45 PM
if you roll a Kanna one day then he's the perfect sub for her :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 11, 2015, 04:21:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fP4emqw7O4

(http://i.imgur.com/9Ue7Wzl.jpg)

(HP plus eggs hate me, apparently)

i mean i fucking love you and everything you're an amazing dragon but what the fuck do i do with you.

I've had him for a while now and I'm still trying to deduce the answer to this question.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 11, 2015, 04:32:45 PM
Took Ra out for a spin this morning and accidentally cleared True Endless Corridors. Neat. Yeah, he's good. Reeeeeeall gooooood. Which is good, because had I invested that much in him and found otherwise I'd have been sad.

Tried Devil Rush with him and died on Mephistopheles, but there's no reason I can't clear it given another try or two. The poison skyfall thing is a horrendous bitch though, it makes keeping my colors on screen impossible, and makes skyfalling three poison orbs and just instantly dying out of nowhere a real possibility. Ugh. 5% drop chance it low, but after clearing most of the board I got pretty close to that twice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 11, 2015, 06:05:02 PM
Ok that's it. My JP path was already decided before i even started an account there....

Rerolled starter: Osiris

First roll after starter: Delgado

First GF: Verdandi

Murakore: Vishnu and Marine Rider

Second (current) GF: Kushinadahime and 2 minutes agooooooo.........

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-07-11-18-52-43_zps4cj06cfy.png)


PARVAAAAAAATIIIIII! :D

This really is some weird wood streak but i certainly won't complain :P
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 11, 2015, 08:54:01 PM
I've been using Apocalypse as a board conversion for Purin; one team I would consider is
Apocalypse/Xuanzang/LFagan/Defoud/Arthur/Apocalypse

You get 2.25/9/1 stats (with Fagan's HP being more than doubled!), with 50+% (75%?) uptime on 2x RCV. Also has two kinda short-ish orb changers, and of course two board conversions that produce hearts and accelerate the team's cooldowns. Six skill boosts, five rows, five TPAs, and so forth.

Doesn't one of the Shinra Bansho cards give 2x ATK for Dragons for a turn? If you don't need Fagan's massive HP, I'd consider him. If you don't need Xuanzang's extended boost or prefer a TPA, Joan of Arc is available as well.

I think there's an appeal to having a very Norn-ish mob in both leader and active skill, except instead of trying to have dual-colors you need only focus on Dragons. Apocalypse also has the benefit of being able to run both rows and TPAs, and light being generally resisted less than RBG colors.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 11, 2015, 10:38:34 PM
Seeing you talking about LFagan and Defoud makes me remember that I need to do my technicals.

Also, I already have my sphinx, I'll have to wait until tuesday to get Awoken Horus though - at the earliest, assuming I actually drop a thoth from thoth and sopdet when they come up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 11, 2015, 11:13:58 PM
they technically drop from sphinx too :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 11, 2015, 11:17:51 PM
So the team simulator suggests that the above team would have 47,585 HP and... 1,097 RCV without +eggs.

I wonder if it can get away with only 9x ATK in that case. Xuanzang would obviously have a more profound effect with +eggs, but who would +99 the RCV on all of Fagan, Defoud, and Xuanzang?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 12, 2015, 12:43:55 AM
they technically drop from sphinx too :V

....Thanks for reminding me, thoth dropped on the second run. lol

I'm ready to get Awoken Horus come tuesday, unfortunately I don't have the rainbow keeper for sphinx ):
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 12, 2015, 12:46:28 AM
....Thanks for reminding me, thoth dropped on the second run. lol

I'm ready to get Awoken Horus come tuesday, unfortunately I don't have the rainbow keeper for sphinx ):
Are you able to run Kouryu's dungeon?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 12, 2015, 12:48:01 AM
Are you able to run Kouryu's dungeon?

Not even close, I don't even have Paradise of the Holy Beasts unlocked, let alone am able to beat it.

Greanted, I never tried it, I'm still on the RGB conditionals for technicals.

Also, my 25 saved PEM rolls did not give me a rainbow keeper, they did, however, give me another green mask and another devilit, because I didn't have like 7 of each already.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 12, 2015, 07:10:57 AM
I was out today when I saw Pompompurin

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJr1CnXUYAAZFsB.jpg:large)

I wish I could have bought one so I can say I have Purin even though I don't have him in PAD :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 12, 2015, 07:53:10 AM
<3

He's as chubby as I expected.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 12, 2015, 09:37:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/FySNOS1.png)

Y A B A I
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 12, 2015, 10:59:33 AM
All of my good Parvati friends are gone. They play awoken Bastet now.

:persona:

Edit: just tried to use Bastet with Parvati and failed miserably. Fuck this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 12, 2015, 01:54:40 PM
Cat aura too strongk ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 12, 2015, 04:32:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/1wT7SNW.png)

soon.png
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 12, 2015, 10:08:53 PM
The massacre is over.... 12 rolls in one go.... as usual gotta accept the good and the bad.

Here we go with commentaries!

1) Dark Angel, Lumiel  --- I had zero angels so this is a good start  :)
2) Fire Wizard, Laila  ---  not bad, not bad  :3
3) Chrono Turtle  ---  completely useless.....  :fail:
4) I&I  ---  you decided to give me a god not featured in the GF and you give me the ONLY Norse i already possessed?  :wat:
5) Liu Bei  ---  HOLY SHIT YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!  :*
6) Incarnation of Suzaku, Leilan  ---  WOW!!! Second not featured god but i'm perfectly happy with this!  :D
7) Mystic Dark Knight  ---   :colonveeplusalpha:
8.) Loki  ---  are you serious?!? a THIRD not featured, and again a Norse?  ??? at least it's not a dupe
9) GGY  ---  OH GOD NO! THIS IS THE THIRD!! AT LEAST GIVE ME THE RED ONE!!! :qq:
10) DQXQ  ---  i only had Astaroth = got Astaroth, i only had I&I = got I&I, so OF COURSE i only had DQXQ = got DQXQ :X i guess i'll have both ultimate....
11) Ganesha  ---  FOURTH not featured god, and it's another dupe, yay  :matsuriscowl:
12) Dryad  ---  brb, committing suicide over ANOTHER dupe....


I have only 2 question after all this:

- that stupid turtle..... should i follow my instict and use her as fodder or does she have some obscure role where she isn't horribly outclassed?

- what the fuck must i do to roll a LU BU?!? (or Cao Cao for that matter, my future A.Shiva is crying right now)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 12, 2015, 10:54:02 PM
At least you have a few things you can Awaken without spending TAMADRAs, yes?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 12, 2015, 11:44:42 PM
Chrono Turtle has rather high HP and RCV for such a low investment. B/G is also filled with orb changers and type-specific enhances; if you need a sub to fill colors and won't ruin, say, a Sakuya or Ra board with its active skill, it's pretty okay.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 13, 2015, 12:11:48 AM
gamble and chrono really need uevos or more buffs really

they've a lot of potential but the meta is too stocked with powerhouses for them
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 13, 2015, 12:12:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/SsQIBPh.jpg)

...I think Ra might be good.

(http://i.imgur.com/aRai6iV.png)

Three down, just Dragon Rush to go. And I'm sure I can beat it given a few more tries. I feel a little bad for not clearing Devil Rush with Gabe, but I just don't have the tools to do it with a decent success rate right now. I'd need to rely on Neptune to block Beelz' poison screen and that's not worth it. Maybe later when awoken Karin comes out.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 13, 2015, 12:23:04 AM
Do you feel bad for clearing it in six turns? :V

A somewhat different situation than Gabriel would provide...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 13, 2015, 01:43:33 AM
gimme one of your kalis, please.

Any of them, seriously, I seem to be the only person here without a kali.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 13, 2015, 01:45:37 AM
gimme one of your kalis, please.

Any of them, seriously, I seem to be the only person here without a kali.

I have 7 LKalis. 0 DKalis. I'd be more than happy to give you one of my LKalis, though.

Meanwhile:

(http://i.imgur.com/9FhjMAk.png)

max-skilled music dragoooon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 13, 2015, 01:50:42 AM
New challenges up, I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to do challenge ten with Gabriel. Excellent. I want that Shynpy too. Fighting Athena will take forever, but I think I can do it and once I get past her I win.

gimme one of your kalis, please.

Any of them, seriously, I seem to be the only person here without a kali.

Even worse, I have an extra white Kali not seen on this team. I'm not a whale, I swear!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 13, 2015, 01:51:32 AM
gimme one of your kalis, please.

Any of them, seriously, I seem to be the only person here without a kali.
^5 noKalibro...?

though i don't especially want one so i don't count
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 13, 2015, 02:11:14 AM
gimme one of your kalis, please.

Any of them, seriously, I seem to be the only person here without a kali.

I can feed mine away and then that'll make three
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 13, 2015, 02:25:42 AM
Okay, so since this next wave of challenges should polish off every card I'm working on that skills up through weekly dungeons, here are my finding for Trifruits and Twinlits. This includes every one I got, through the dungeon and the pal machine, but pal pulls account for only one or two from each category tops.

Thursday dungeon:
Red fruit-3
Blue fruit-7
Green fruit-5

Friday dungeon:
Angelit-9
Devilit-10

These were collected over a period of a month or so. What those numbers don't explain are how they were grouped. For the most part I found that Thursday dungeon drops tended to clump, where I'd get three or even four of one thing in a row, while Friday dungeon alternated fairly consistently, with no more than two of either drop in a row.

What can I conclude then? Absolutely nothing. My sample size is still abysmally tiny. Technically the drops that I always found to be more common came out on top in both dungeons, but by so little that it doesn't matter. Make of that what you will, maybe compare it to your own results, and I'll keep my count going in the event that I find myself needing to run either dungeon again at any point (which hopefully won't be for a long time because fuck 'em).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 13, 2015, 08:18:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dJ6D8fkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dJ6D8fk.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Um0xxBVl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Um0xxBV.jpg)

Also snagged the cat but forgot to screenshot whoops.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 13, 2015, 08:20:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/dJ6D8fkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/dJ6D8fk.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Um0xxBVl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Um0xxBV.jpg)

Also snagged the cat but forgot to screenshot whoops.

The suffering is over!

...For now..........................
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 13, 2015, 07:45:33 PM
Red Pii on level 8, looks like my hypermaxxed Awoken Horus is still months away from me.

Shit, I feel like I've hit a wall on this game until I get my Awoken Horus, and even then I am seriously doubting many doors will open to me. Especially now that I discovered that I not only needed a Rainbow Keeper, I also needed a goddamn dub-topalit. I managed to snag my keeper from evo materials unite but not the dublit, so now I'm gonna have to run aether desert and hope to everything that it drops eventually.

And even with Awoken Horus under my belt, I don't have enough teamcost to make any actual changes to my team lineup, at best I'll be able to change echidna for Gigas. Aside from that, there are no changes to be made to my Green team until Awoken Meimei and uvo vishnu are things, my lakshmi team isn't gonna be a thing for a very long time, my awoken minerva team is like "is this even a thing" and my Pandora team is like nonexistent.

;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 13, 2015, 11:13:19 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XTDyiTXl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/XTDyiTX.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9s3Xhnrl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9s3Xhnr.jpg)

Revenge is sweet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 13, 2015, 11:24:06 PM
I don't have enough teamcost
Farm Shinra1 and get them ranks
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 13, 2015, 11:56:16 PM
Shit, I feel like I've hit a wall

Awoken Horus
Green team
lakshmi team
awoken minerva team
Pandora team.

Found your problem boss
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 14, 2015, 12:30:09 AM
Found your problem boss
This reminds me, I've also been spreading myself too thin lately.  Haven't made any notable progress on many of my teams because I keep coming up with new ideas I wanna try and stuff.  Gotta learn to just go with one thing for a while and stick with it, or maybe two or three at the most instead of the like 5-6 different solid team ideas I came up with...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 14, 2015, 01:04:03 AM
Found your problem boss

Considering how I have a billion options and can make progress towards none of them I don't think spreading myself too thin is the actual problem :V

Farm Shinra1 and get them ranks

What difficulty? Mythical?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 14, 2015, 01:24:32 AM
The fifth difficulty is actually comparatively easy. I've been farming it with Purin, if that's any indicator.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 14, 2015, 03:43:30 AM
wow Ares is EVEN MORE JOJO NOW
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 14, 2015, 04:09:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/EUUoi0Tl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/EUUoi0T.jpg)

he ded
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 14, 2015, 04:22:55 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/620792076423139328 new descend boss

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/620792802406862849 first 9* in the game, Shiva Dragon
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 14, 2015, 05:14:46 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/tHtCCLQ.png)

Finally no-stoned yamato rush for the second time. The first time I had a baggi in my team but this time it has no JP-exclusive cards :D (ok well A Isis is arriving soon so forgive me for that)
With this, I'm done with the three hardest descends of this challenge, so all that's left is clearing the remaining much easier descends and get mah well earned stone ;w;

I just want to say that Awoken Isis is the perfect card for this dungeon. and is not that surprisingly a good sub in bastet, mainly because of the 3-cd AS.

Here's some BG knowledge of this rush:
Wave 5 Kaguchi (R/D) has 4 mil hp. [Perservance above 50%] and Pre-empt increase all your cd by 0~4 turns
Below 50% hp, he binds your whole party for 2 turns and then starting next turn he do >500k damage. At 1hp, kaguchi resets all your skills' counter which sucks.
Wave 6 Boss is Goemon which has [Perservance above 50% hp] and a pre-empt of 25,556 damage.

Which means, after you get binded on wave 5, you activate Isis to heal then stomp over kagu, and the 15% shield remains to block the pre-empt to 21k damage which is much more achievable for plussed teams!

I could even use Isis to counter Kaguya's devil bind on wave 3, and have no problem getting her up again by wave 5! She can also be used on wave 1 or 2 as an extra skill activation for bastet's LS when needed as she'll be up by the time kaguya binds devils anyways! And if you accidentally hit kaguya to <30% range, isis's 15% shield also turns her 25k fuck off attack to a managable 21k again.

How I seriously wished Bastet's AS got a 15% shield now T_T so good
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 14, 2015, 06:41:36 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/620844387019325440

All Hail Ares, your new Red Row Overlord
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 14, 2015, 07:33:27 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/620844387019325440

All Hail Ares, your new Red Row Overlord

meanwhile in the peanut gallery:

(http://i.imgur.com/qpR57mK.png)

please read paranatural by zack morrison (http://www.paranatural.net/)

also i love and fucking want r/l ares trust me perfect A+ kiriko sub
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 14, 2015, 07:56:48 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/620844387019325440

All Hail Ares, your new Red Row Overlord

ROdin sends his regards with his 4 rows.

For real though, I like this version more, even if he doesn't have the highest atk in the game anymore. Shame I can't use him on Gadius though.

I do wish they'd be making more of an effort to make the Greek 2.0s actually decent leaders though instead of forever condemning them to sub tier though. They didn't fix the obsolete leader skills at all!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 14, 2015, 08:01:57 AM
ROdin sends his regards with his 4 rows.


worse AS which people only use for farming. And people complained about Rodin having 4 rows, they wanted him to have 4 skill boosts :v

This version of Ares actually is useful for clearing content...

Quote
I do wish they'd be making more of an effort to make the Greek 2.0s actually decent leaders though instead of forever condemning them to sub tier though. They didn't fix the obsolete leader skills at all!

This would have been nice, yeah.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on July 14, 2015, 08:03:45 AM
ROdin sends his regards with his 4 rows.

For real though, I like this version more, even if he doesn't have the highest atk in the game anymore. Shame I can't use him on Gadius though.

I do wish they'd be making more of an effort to make the Greek 2.0s actually decent leaders though instead of forever condemning them to sub tier though. They didn't fix the obsolete leader skills at all!

Yeah, you have to wonder if they could get away with that, Greek 2s are pretty strong as is. They might not want things to go Liu Bei crazy.

worse AS which people only use for farming. And people complained about Rodin having 4 rows, they wanted him to have 4 skill boosts :v

This version of Ares actually is useful for clearing content...

This would have been nice, yeah.

Yeah, People weren't even liking blue Odin in blue row teams prior to the buffs he got.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 14, 2015, 08:08:39 AM
Yeah, you have to wonder if they could get away with that, Greek 2s are pretty strong as is. They might not want things to go Liu Bei crazy.

They literally just made a monster that's an unconditional 5x atk/1.5x RCV for fire gods with two rows, two tpa, two skill boosts, a skill bind resist, and a time extend. I think the power creep has far exceeded Liu Bei at this point. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 14, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
They literally just made a monster that's an unconditional 5x atk/1.5x RCV for fire gods with two rows, two tpa, two skill boosts, a skill bind resist, and a time extend. I think the power creep has far exceeded Liu Bei at this point. :V

it also literally costs 6 DKalis to even buy him, so I think it balances out.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 14, 2015, 08:52:49 AM
Who knows, they might feel like buffing the original ult form of greek 2.0s someday, or they might ignore it till it's time for their awoken.

Balanced or not, ShivaDragon makes one hell of a farming lead for whales. Imagine ShivaDora+Ares*4+ShivaDora, you can just activate Ares AS consecutively for the next 8 turns! 16 rows! 100% SBR!
Imagine all the descend those whales are gonna be farming with Ares->make row->Ares->make row->...->ShivaDora*2->Ares->make row->etc
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 14, 2015, 08:56:17 AM
And yet still technically "farmable"  in the sense that the main factor in obtaining him is time rather than luck. You can define the costs in DKalis or you can define it by however many months' worth of godfest fodder you dump into MP (or days, for the megawhales).

I feel like if I dumped all of my godfest dupes or cards I don't really intend to use otherwise thus far I'd be a decent chunk of the way there already.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 14, 2015, 09:33:45 AM
http://zlmc.qq.com/

Have you ever wondered what happen if PAD had a VIP level system for whales?

Ya, China got the rights to PAD from GungHo in the region.

Whoops.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 14, 2015, 11:56:02 AM
two revelations

(http://i.imgur.com/N5EUvBf.jpg)

Dog is super effective against cat

(http://i.imgur.com/o9K6eEY.jpg)

Dog is super effective against dragons

http://zlmc.qq.com/

Have you ever wondered what happen if PAD had a VIP level system for whales?

Ya, China got the rights to PAD from GungHo in the region.

Whoops.

Pardon me for not knowing what's going on there, but what's going on there? Will it affect NA and all?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 14, 2015, 12:03:48 PM
I love that Ares is still a jojo character
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 14, 2015, 12:08:10 PM
Pardon me for not knowing what's going on there, but what's going on there? Will it affect NA and all?

Nothing will happen to NA

it's just that China's version of PAD is literally entirely different from the rest of the world's PAD outside of the core gameplay.

In China: 1 roll = 238 stones
Everywhere else: 1 roll = 5 stones
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: triangles on July 14, 2015, 02:58:22 PM
ARES MY JOJO  HUSBANDO RETURNS :*

I'll uh have to actually theory craft come up with a plan but this must be done.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 14, 2015, 11:39:45 PM
http://zlmc.qq.com/

Have you ever wondered what happen if PAD had a VIP level system for whales?

Ya, China got the rights to PAD from GungHo in the region.

Whoops.

WORLD MAP LOL

>Name is literally "Everyday PAD"
wut

what is this "Fragment" system in the REM

ohh is that a pandatama on the right on the banner

wat
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 15, 2015, 12:05:49 AM
"This attack shouldn't trigger Big Lance!"

Skyfalls happened.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 15, 2015, 12:18:43 AM
fucking zhao long is rediculous

4 million hp, low hp 36k hit, 6 combo shield, and of course THE MOST BROKEN ELEMENT FUCKING WOOD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2015, 12:32:17 AM
I do more things. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt04yeA7Lww)(late)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 15, 2015, 12:44:42 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/L6ADb6Z.jpg)

One True Dog strategies continue to intensify.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 15, 2015, 12:47:19 AM
fucking zhao long is rediculous

4 million hp, low hp 36k hit, 6 combo shield, and of course THE MOST BROKEN ELEMENT FUCKING WOOD

I know right? His is one of the very few unrestricted descends I've never cleared with Gabe. I had to ring in Verdandi to take care of him. Gabe might be able to handle him, but between the combo shield and the random gravities I didn't want to take the risk. Don't know why they gave him so much much shit than any other descend boss.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 15, 2015, 01:36:43 AM
ronia did the trick :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 15, 2015, 04:16:39 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/71CYucb.png)

I wish I could say that that was a no-stone, but it wasn't. I spent three stones, one on Ronia and two on blue Hera. There's nothing in this dungeon that Gabriel can't beat, but the grind was so long that odds are something was going to go wrong, and it did a few times. I actually botched my combo on Sonia Gran pretty terribly at the end too, but she somehow died anyway.

I didn't even notice the scariest part until after I was done. See my battery indicator, and how it's critical but charging? I actually plugged it in around 30% and was actively losing power through the whole dungeon without realizing it because I use shitty generic cables. There was a secret timer going on, where all of my progress could've been wiped if I had run out of battery. Oof. :ohdear:

And with that, I'm gone with weekly dungeons for a while. My second white Kali is skillmax, I skillmaxed Verdandi earlier, so now that I have those piis I can spend more time... In alt dungeons getting more piis I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 15, 2015, 01:59:10 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3gNrvfX.jpg)

I did this a couple of days ago, amusingly: 7.7, 7, 7.0

7777
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 15, 2015, 02:11:53 PM
I just now realized that Awoken Horus is a kickass red prong sub (or leader I suppose, although that's a much more specific team than I can manage). I just now ultimate evolved by Perseus, so I suppose evolving Horus will be my next minor project. He'll probably end up useful for something or other.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2015, 05:41:06 PM
UPC has datamined something from the JP client, and it's everyone's worst nightmare come true.

(http://i.imgur.com/IUDGSGG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/nDvZLv2.jpg)

The second picture we were all expecting already. However, the first one is a dungeon BG... which means there will be a beach dungeon bundled along with it this time.

Looks like it's evolved into Academy v2. Are you ready to get W E T ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 15, 2015, 05:48:57 PM
I assume Wetatron will be back, which is great for me. Not because I want one at all, but because the more of them are out in the world the better my odds are to find a single goddamn hypermax one to be my friend.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 15, 2015, 06:06:20 PM
The academy is coming back? Fuck that, I ain't rolling again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
The academy is coming back? Fuck that, I ain't rolling again.

This is pink egg machine/Summer REM reboot/revise.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 15, 2015, 06:21:29 PM
The inevitable has come.
Time to bet on what new swimsuit characters will come out! :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 15, 2015, 06:28:06 PM
ETERNAL SUFFERING OF THE SPITEFUL REM
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 15, 2015, 06:30:10 PM
Still not rolling. It's too cruel. ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 15, 2015, 06:32:56 PM
The inevitable has come.
Time to bet on what new swimsuit characters will come out! :V

SHINING LIFEGUARD ODIN OR RIOT
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2015, 06:41:25 PM
The inevitable has come.
Time to bet on what new swimsuit characters will come out! :V

I wonder if the boss will be swimsuit model hera-is?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 15, 2015, 07:32:27 PM
GUESS WHAT DROPPED FROM AETHER DESERT ON MY FIRST RUN TODAY?

(http://i.imgur.com/F4JvVMI.png)

UNLEASH THE UTTERY BROKEN PIECE OF SHIT BIRD! (http://i.imgur.com/F4JvVMI.png)

(Now I just need 2 flampys and I get my asterisk)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Moogs Parfait on July 15, 2015, 07:39:44 PM
Betting beach healer girls to ride the monmusume wave
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 15, 2015, 07:41:37 PM
You know it'd be nice if healer girls just got a nice revamp. Better stats, buffs, etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 15, 2015, 07:45:00 PM
Oh man I agree. That might actually get me to roll. On one hand buffing Echidna will always seem dubious, but on the other hand Japan has had that way better collab Echidna forever.

Siren is so cool and I almost neeeeever use her any more. A newer, usable-er Siren would be lovely.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 15, 2015, 07:49:32 PM
"Aww yeah Red Sprite is hitting the coin dungeons tomorrow. Gonna be able to use Yamato Takeru..."

I have no Yamato Takeru friends. :c
Chaore, you should hook me up with your YT buddies.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2015, 07:50:29 PM
Betting beach healer girls to ride the monmusume wave

How many armies must I slaughter to create this reality
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Moogs Parfait on July 15, 2015, 07:55:42 PM
How many armies do you even have left?

Also I still use Ecchi because I can't get a sun Quan skill up to save my life
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 15, 2015, 08:04:27 PM
"Aww yeah Red Sprite is hitting the coin dungeons tomorrow. Gonna be able to use Yamato Takeru..."

I have no Yamato Takeru friends. :c
Chaore, you should hook me up with your YT buddies.

I would if I had more than three >>

I think one of my best decided to quit to boot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 15, 2015, 08:09:59 PM
I wonder if the boss will be swimsuit model hera-is?

That's... actually quite likely and she'd skill up hera-is's uevo.

We're getting HxH collab (finally after 1.5 years) till early August so this REM cannot arrive earlier than that.
I'm expecting previews on the coming nico livestream (on July 24th! Hype!)

summer bastet pls?

Edit: JP Maintanence over! News incoming!
Firstly: ShivaDora needs only 5 skill lv ups like most gods. Scarlet is 10 skill lvs needed like all descends.

Monster Points:
GFE (6*): 50k
GFE (5*): 15k

REM-only (6*): 15k
REM-Only (5*): 5k
REM-Only (4*): 3k

Special/Collab REM (7*): 15k?
Special/Collab REM (6*): 6k
Special/Collab REM (5*): 4k~5k?? (Tinnin sells for 5k, FF collab 5*s sell for 4k)
Special/Collab REM (4*): 3k

Descend bosses: 10 points
Special dungeon bosses: 5 points
other drops: 1 points

Latent Awakenings:
HP: 1.5% up per awakening
ATK: 1% up
RCV: 4% up
Auto-heal: heal 2% of that individual's RCV
Finger: 0.05s
Shields: 1%, well what else did you expect. :V At least you're safe from 100% gravs

Misc:
Late-bloomers will not drop from descends anymore. So you can't farm them for 3k MPs now in JP.

Important Note about REM-Only: It's been stated everywhere that evolution stage DOES NOT AFFECT the MP value of a monster. So I presume that means you cannot, say, evolve a Late-bloomer to 5* and get 5k instead of 3k. Basically it only looks at what the rarity of something's base form is and that determines its MP value.

Edit: GuanYus, ZLs, Apocs, sell for the same as normal REM-Only
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 15, 2015, 09:13:14 PM
Sooooo with late bloomer dragons being removed from dungeon drops, they are indeed considered REM only now? Maybe we should take the chance to farm them up while we can.

Healing 2% of a mob's RCV only equates to... 100 per turn on a hypermax LZL? Though, +200 RCV is still a sweet deal for non-Purin teams that use LZL.

Purin gets a chunky 400+ HP if you stack those. +ATK seems like a bad deal unless you're Beelzebub or Lu Bu or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 15, 2015, 09:19:49 PM
Sooooo with late bloomer dragons being removed from dungeon drops, they are indeed considered REM only now? Maybe we should take the chance to farm them up while we can.

Healing 2% of a mob's RCV only equates to... 100 per turn on a hypermax LZL? Though, +200 RCV is still a sweet deal for non-Purin teams that use LZL.

Purin gets a chunky 400+ HP if you stack those. +ATK seems like a bad deal unless you're Beelzebub or Lu Bu or something.

I just sold a Salamander. I got 3k points. so yes. Good for NA :v have fun stocking up your box with late bloomers lol. 100 late bloomers = 1 shivadora :V :V

Edit: 10 mil exp to level max Shivadora. This guy is practically non-usable in Legend mode (well, as least you'd be having like two lv10s leads on your team? but 25x on your members is still good). I guess this is how they think that balances him.


Edit: GuanYus, ZLs, Apocs, sell for the same as normal REM-Only


EditEdit: Welp they just sell like REM-Only. Sorry I made a mistake. I apologize for any hype you might have gotten from this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 15, 2015, 09:37:26 PM
cats > not cats

(http://i.imgur.com/qE9YGEo.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2015, 09:42:56 PM
Late Bloomers and fruit dragons apparently fall under the 3k bracket, so more of those would be cool too.

Bad news for non-IAP: Apparently Jewels and Py sell for 1 point. Guess we have to use the silly fodder mons.


Auto-heal: heal 2% of that individual's RCV


I heard 3% from another source. Can you confirm?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 15, 2015, 09:44:43 PM
Updates:
Yea, Apoc, ZL, GuanYu only sells for 5k/15k for 5*/6*. Not GFEs welp.

Also Fingers are only 0.05s apparently?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 15, 2015, 09:45:45 PM
Updates:
Yea, Apoc, ZL, GuanYu only sells for 5k/15k for 5*/6*. Not GFEs welp.

Wow, poor fucking Apoc just can't catch a break.

Quote
Also Fingers are only 0.05s apparently?

... welp

I mean, I guess having the full half-second would be a little broken, but god damn that's just useless
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 15, 2015, 09:46:51 PM
Wow, poor fucking Apoc just can't catch a break.

Apoc is top-tier Kanna sub.
He's getting much better treatment from players since the buff to his AS tbh. :v

Also you can stack at most 30 fingers on a team. The best people expected was 0.1s which would give a team 3s extra, apparently gungho deem that as too much and made it 0.05 though. Still it's 1.5s which isn't bad if you're willing to invest.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 15, 2015, 09:50:30 PM
Updates:
Yea, Apoc, ZL, GuanYu only sells for 5k/15k for 5*/6*. Not GFEs welp.

that's really fucking horse shit for how long they were gfes tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 15, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
http://pad.skyozora.com/news/Ver.8.1-%E9%81%8A%E6%88%B2%E6%AA%94%E6%A1%88%E6%96%B0%E5%A2%9E%E5%85%A7%E5%AE%B9

Besides the summer REM pics

People found pics of locks.

Speculation time?

People are worried it's enemies locking your orbs in place. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 15, 2015, 09:59:50 PM
People found pics of locks.
Speculation time?
People are worried it's enemies locking your orbs in place. :ohdear:

Maybe they're finally implementing a pathing system like in the other PAD games. That's my more optimistic (and saner) thought than that one.

EDIT: It did exist as part of the Legend Dungeon so it's possible they might have scrapped it from there, is my basis for that theory.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 15, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CKIkm0L.jpg)
One more thing, damage numbers looks different? It's a bit more clear now I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 15, 2015, 11:02:02 PM
Still too hard to see how much any individual card is doing at high numbers, but it's a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 15, 2015, 11:15:56 PM
It looks... cleaner. But man, just make a damage log you can check or something!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 16, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
I assume the resistance tamadras give element-specific resists, instead of an all-resist?

Cause if so, stat latent awakenings may actually be the best of the bunch, amazingly enough :wat:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 16, 2015, 12:25:19 AM
Aha, speccing Beelzebub for +ATK gives him 2740 ATK. Because ATK gets -so many- multipliers from combos, orb quantity, rows, TPAs, Ra's 100x, orb enhances, increasing the base by just a little sounds really cool.

On the other hand, you could also do things like spec a water team fully with wood-resist. 25% resist ain't bad; for a Genbu team you can resist every color except for the Water enemies you already do super effective damage to. Same applies to the other China girls bar Suzaku.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 16, 2015, 12:25:32 AM
get 1 of each elemental resist to negate every single 100% gravity
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 16, 2015, 12:49:13 AM
get 1 of each elemental resist to negate every single 100% gravity

Then gungho makes 105% gravs.

gg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 16, 2015, 12:49:54 AM
So how do latent awakenings work? Can everything get them, or just leaders? How much do they cost?

get 1 of each elemental resist to negate every single 100% gravity

That sounds like a really solid plan actually. Although so far aren't 100% gravities only light and dark? Not that planning ahead wouldn't be wise.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 16, 2015, 12:50:01 AM
Aha, speccing Beelzebub for +ATK gives him 2740 ATK. Because ATK gets -so many- multipliers from combos, orb quantity, rows, TPAs, Ra's 100x, orb enhances, increasing the base by just a little sounds really cool.

Incorrect - he will have 2715 ATK. Plus Eggs apparently are added in last and do not count towards the multiplied amount.

Although so far aren't 100% gravities only light and dark? Not that planning ahead wouldn't be wise.

Also incorrect - Ult Hera-Is has a -100% Gravity and I think Sha Wujing (crocodile boss) does too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 16, 2015, 01:51:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pd1xMOG.png)

So this is a thing, which I acquired.

I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 16, 2015, 01:52:52 AM

I'm sorry.

How many gods did you sell?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 16, 2015, 01:56:21 AM
How many gods did you sell?

Here is what I sold:

3 Gadius
2 Urds
3 Verdandis
2 GZLs
3 DMetas
3 Grodins
3 LKalis
collab REM trash
silver egg trash

After buying Shiva Dragon, I still had 216000 monster points left over

EDIT:

I think Sha Wujing (crocodile boss) does too.

Zhu Bajie (loli riding a boar) is the one with the 100% gravity below 50%, she is Light at 50%.

Sha Wujing has a 99% gravity.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 16, 2015, 03:42:34 AM
Cleared challenge seven with Gabriel, now I just have eight and nine left. Probably going to try eight with Ra tomorrow, shouldn't be too tricky since there are no particularly troublesome pre-emptives for my team and I get the handicap of easier combos. I don't have anything for nine, my best bet is just using Ra and praying that Zaerog absorbs dark instead of light, and I don't like those odds, so I'm not going to do it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 16, 2015, 04:38:31 AM
Addendum to earlier: I think Zaerog Infinity is actually a -100% water gravity. I am unsure if the move is randomly selected at low health or what, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 16, 2015, 04:47:21 AM
Addendum to earlier: I think Zaerog Infinity is actually a -100% water gravity. I am unsure if the move is randomly selected at low health or what, though.

You are correct.

He uses End of Pain (100% Water Gravity) first and then Beyond the Pain (multihit attack dealing 423K damages) if you survive it at 30% HP or lower and after he already used his resurrection.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 16, 2015, 05:09:02 AM
a sign i have been running this way too much

(http://i.imgur.com/0pHo0Ym.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 16, 2015, 06:31:01 AM
A bunch of people at my workplace play PAD.

One of them noticed I had PAD open since I'm doing Super King Carnival, and we proceeded to chat about the new PAD update, talking about how ridiculous Scarlet's uvo mats are (he flipped when I told him I already had the mats ready) and eventually I may have ended up making them a bit pissed since I have Shiva Dragon and 200K monster points saved up :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 16, 2015, 09:46:59 AM
Finally, after 3 fails I beat Medj Mythical.

First try I fucked up at the masks  :derp:
Second try Isis was being a bad sister and bound both Nephthys for 5 turns. That wouldn't have been so bad actually, but she only spawned 4 heart orbs the next turn...
Third try I got a 3/3/3 on floor 2 and I was only able to kill one of them in time. (stupid skyfall didn't give me enough dark)

But fourth try was a success, especially since I resist the 99 turn skillbind :3
Floor 3 was an invade aswell, so just damage her down...
Floor 4, Isis was a bad sister... again, and bound both Nephthys, but gave me enough heart so I could build a row and clear the bind with Pandora. taking her down after is easy, with some skills even more.
Floor 5, stalled for skills (even with 99 turn skillbind, I don't need to do anything to stall forever)
Floor 6, attack paddern: shield --> heal orbs to jammers --> gravity, this would have cost me the game. how unlucky to get all heal orbs taken and not get skyfalls
good thing I just burst him down
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 16, 2015, 01:09:43 PM
A bunch of people at my workplace play PAD.

One of them noticed I had PAD open since I'm doing Super King Carnival, and we proceeded to chat about the new PAD update, talking about how ridiculous Scarlet's uvo mats are (he flipped when I told him I already had the mats ready) and eventually I may have ended up making them a bit pissed since I have Shiva Dragon and 200K monster points saved up :ohdear:

When one can just throw tons of money with reckless abandon and instantly get everything with no other qualifiers involved, yeah I'd imagine he'd get annoyed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 16, 2015, 01:44:40 PM
First outing on challenge eight was a failure. Just couldn't combo at all, died instantly. That's been the  biggest problem with Ra so far, my first run in the morning is always a mess. Practice is probably the fix for that, but christ, so much wasted stanima.😑

Edit: Second try didn't do enough damage and died on the first floor. Third try was no trouble at all. I think all this practice in various Endless Corridors has given me a little bit of a bad habit in trying to conserve actives. Ra/Kali's damage is not really good enough for the trouble without Ra's damage enhance, so knowing when you can afford to save actives and when not to is a skill. I just popped actives off on most floors and crushed the whole dungeon. As long as there's anywhere at all to stall even for just a moment playing it conservative is not necessary or wise, apparently.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 17, 2015, 01:05:49 AM
So, this was way too long in coming.

(http://i.imgur.com/xPgYKdp.jpg)

/me cracks knuckles

I've been waiting for this.

(http://i.imgur.com/rmSgapK.jpg)

What a shame surviving my assault doesn't help you when you're paralyzed.

(http://i.imgur.com/dQtltze.jpg)

Bite me, Sandy.

EDIT:  Special thanks to Karin for invading wave four so I didn't have to deal with Raph's crap.  The blue jewel was a nice touch on my run since I think I still needed one for SOMETHING, and if not it's a shot at making Karin faster.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 17, 2015, 01:58:25 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/s8gTrek.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/p6MVBk8.jpg)

im not sure this should be legal.

EDIT:

Quote
When one can just throw tons of money with reckless abandon and instantly get everything with no other qualifiers involved, yeah I'd imagine he'd get annoyed.

Excuse me, when I spent $1000+ trying to get a fucking DKali, which I should remind you I still don't have, I think an update like this just happened to be GungHo trying to spare me some mercy.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 17, 2015, 04:57:27 AM
what is it with clowns and obscenely large multipliers
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 17, 2015, 04:59:45 AM
what is it with clowns and obscenely large multipliers

'we never actually learned from juggler tbh' - YamaP, July 17th 2015
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 17, 2015, 05:04:12 AM
come to think of it, yamaP's own card is pretty clownish too...

oh god weve really been playing puzzles and clowns all this time
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 17, 2015, 06:14:15 AM
come to think of it, yamaP's own card is pretty clownish too...

oh god weve really been playing puzzles and clowns all this time

and someone hypermaxed YamaP (https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/620950803369439232)...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 17, 2015, 06:53:08 AM

Excuse me, when I spent $1000+ trying to get a fucking DKali, which I should remind you I still don't have, I think an update like this just happened to be GungHo trying to spare me some mercy.

I think you're missing the point Chirei was making.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 17, 2015, 06:58:59 AM
I think you're missing the point Chirei was making.

I may be missing his point, but I'm sick to shit about people making a huge fuss about Shiva Dragon. I think Chaore is the only person I've had a reasonable discussion with regarding this stupid card.

MP was put in place as a way to try and placate the crowd who are getting annoyed with many dupes; introducing ridiculously stupid shit like ShivaDragon was just something to spend mass excess on. Yes sure you can argue it is "pay2win" or whatever and if people feel they have to be annoyed that people who just want to blow money like that to get him or whatever, I don't know what to say, since I'm REALLY not sure how me owning Shiva Dragon affects other people. People can call me fucking crazy (I was greeted this morning by said guy calling me nuts for managing to get him) or whatever, but my "reckless spending" was me trying to get a card that I ended up not getting. Other people have had it MUCH worse than me even if they ended up getting the card they wanted (or in some cases they didn't even get it) and the system would benefit them far more than me. I would honestly just consider myself "Lucky," but basically I'm sorry not sorry.

I appreciate GungHo making me feel less bad about my useless GFE dupes just sitting around doing nothing but taking up box space, at least it shows they care about their paying userbase a tiny bit.

EDIT: And honestly? If it makes it look like I'm flaunting the fact I'm IAP, then I better just stop trying to put my input in anything, because it's been already established that I have a heavy IAP background in the year I've been playing this game, and it's impossible for me to say anything without making it sound like "lolol i'm a whale."
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 17, 2015, 12:55:42 PM
Who has an unevolved max level Yinping?

When you have me in your friendslist, can you please set her up for tomorrow? I would like to beat Gaia.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 17, 2015, 01:25:10 PM
Excuse me, when I spent $1000+ trying to get a fucking DKali, which I should remind you I still don't have, I think an update like this just happened to be GungHo trying to spare me some mercy.

I understand that this is what you want to do, and I've told you that I personally don't mind how much you spend before, but for that comment I basically put myself in the guy's shoes because you sounded worried that you probably pissed him off. Intent often times does not make a just cause, which is a hard lesson I have had to learn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 17, 2015, 02:11:13 PM
Exactly.


Meanwhile:
(http://i.imgur.com/C5ZfQnZ.jpg)

That took way longer than it ever needed to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 17, 2015, 02:39:28 PM
Who has an unevolved max level Yinping?

When you have me in your friendslist, can you please set her up for tomorrow? I would like to beat Gaia.

I'll see if I can get mine leveled in time. No guarantee, but I'll try. What's your team?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 17, 2015, 02:59:35 PM
I understand that this is what you want to do, and I've told you that I personally don't mind how much you spend before, but for that comment I basically put myself in the guy's shoes because you sounded worried that you probably pissed him off. Intent often times does not make a just cause, which is a hard lesson I have had to learn.

Okay, at least you cleared it up, but that really honestly sounded like you were judging me there. :|
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 17, 2015, 11:50:27 PM
I'll see if I can get mine leveled in time. No guarantee, but I'll try. What's your team?

This, or use a leek instead of the Ogre

(http://i.imgur.com/VVUDWsR.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 18, 2015, 12:15:32 AM
STOP GIVING ME ANGELITS

14-0 COME ON

15-0 THIS GAME SUCKS
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 18, 2015, 12:29:14 AM
STOP GIVING ME ANGELITS

14-0 COME ON

15-0 THIS GAME SUCKS

This is my life

I am just going to give up on dkali skillups
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 18, 2015, 12:34:12 AM
IM NOT EVEN TRYING FOR SKILLUPS

I JUST NEED ONE TO EVO ZAEROG

BUT NO FUCK


I ALSO NEED 10 DUBTOPLITS AND I'VE GOTTEN NONE


finally got a devil jesus

but now i have 0 stam and still need 7 dubtops

also still need to run challenge dungeons...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2015, 01:20:42 AM
Scarlet Descends! is the prime example of how you can turn an "interesting" mechanic into something that is literally an incarnation of hell
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 18, 2015, 01:22:59 AM
was that Hera-Ur I just witnessed? Christ nuggets.

Don't mind me running Red Sprite ceaselessly. (http://imgur.com/tKcWMdM)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2015, 01:38:30 AM
was that Hera-Ur I just witnessed? Christ nuggets.

Okay, keep in mind you start the dungeon at LV1 and you gain levels by beating waves.

Wave 1 - 1.7M HP Belial (Beelzebub Descended!)

Wave 2 - 1.8M HP Hell Pyro Demon and 1.8M HP Hellwind Taur Demon

Wave 3 - 4.9M HP Armadel (Grimoires Descended! Mythical)

Wave 4 - 2.3M HP ult Kraken (Devil Rush!)

Wave 5 - RANDOM ONE:
3.2M HP Divine Queen Hera w/ 24K Pre-emptive
5.0M HP Awoken Dance Queen Hera-Ur (Challenge Dungeons! LV10)

Wave 6 / 7 - Scarlet (boss)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 18, 2015, 01:42:40 AM
Wasn't ult Kraken from Zeus Mercury first?

so wave 5 is randomly "I hope you have a damage reduction or else you get instagibbed 50% of the time with nothing you can do about it"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 18, 2015, 01:52:34 AM
I don't really follow content that hasn't been released here that closely, so I don't have a detailed understanding of how the level-up dungeons work. Is it a symmetrical mechanic, or does it secretly hurt some kind of teams more than others?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 18, 2015, 01:53:27 AM
lol scarlet doesn't actually look too bad for Isis because of all the fire :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 18, 2015, 01:55:13 AM
I don't really follow content that hasn't been released here that closely, so I don't have a detailed understanding of how the level-up dungeons work. Is it a symmetrical mechanic, or does it secretly hurt some kind of teams more than others?

The lower the monster's cost, the faster they level up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 18, 2015, 02:18:30 AM
Because of this, Collaboration mobs and un-uvo'd mobs are surprisingly viable. Anything around cost 20 will hit level cap around wave 3 or 4 of Scarlet. GFEs will have trouble breaking level 20 on the other hand.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 18, 2015, 03:50:40 AM
Who has an unevolved max level Yinping?

When you have me in your friendslist, can you please set her up for tomorrow? I would like to beat Gaia.

I got mine to level 46, and I'll probably finish it tomorrow. You're welcome to use it if you need it, just send me a message in-game and I'll put it up. I've also got Asuka & Unit 02 available, although it's also not quite max level.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 18, 2015, 07:04:36 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Pyje3nwl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Pyje3nw.jpg)

Just need to get the other five levelmaxed and wait for the skill change; then I can do Fun Things.

Fun Things that I could just use a levelmaxed Satan for, but Fun Things nonetheless.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2015, 08:19:20 AM
lol scarlet doesn't actually look too bad for Isis because of all the fire :3

Isis will get walled by Armadel probably

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 18, 2015, 10:04:39 AM
Because of this, Collaboration mobs and un-uvo'd mobs are surprisingly viable. Anything around cost 20 will hit level cap around wave 3 or 4 of Scarlet. GFEs will have trouble breaking level 20 on the other hand.

.... Does Shivadragon even level up at all?  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2015, 10:10:20 AM
.... Does Shivadragon even level up at all?  :V

Barely, but he does.

Nordis Fl9, Shiva Dragon = Lv27

Scarlet Fl2, Shiva Dragon = Lv10
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 18, 2015, 12:43:44 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Pyje3nwl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Pyje3nw.jpg)

Just need to get the other five levelmaxed and wait for the skill change; then I can do Fun Things.

Fun Things that I could just use a levelmaxed Satan for, but Fun Things nonetheless.

What happens to her skill?

Anyway:
(http://i.imgur.com/MU0WCaf.png)
this cost me one stone, because I had bad orbs luck on ceres, but "Master" can be nostoned.
Not sure about mythical though, Ceres below 50% will be hard
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 18, 2015, 01:41:24 PM
What happens to her skill?

Max Skill Lv6, 20 -> 15 CD
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 18, 2015, 02:38:46 PM
Beat Izzy's faces in on Legend before work.  I have no idea why that took so long.  I will need to fight harder though, because neither of her dropped for me.  Guess I'm gonna really earn my evo mat for AKagu.  If I can make it to DIza I can win since my burst SHOULD OHKO her, but it's making it there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 18, 2015, 04:43:02 PM
What happens to her skill?

Can actually be skilled up (hence why I've got five dupes I'm working on), and the effect changes from 100x nuke -> 150x nuke and one-turn haste.
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Post by: Thaws on July 18, 2015, 06:58:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Pc0qvIA.png)(http://i.imgur.com/vxnKL8x.png)

Doing a dungeon with Disco Hera, and a red boss with two forms (4mil hp/7mil hp) with a green team? Why not?
Scarlet no-stoned :D

Look I tried this with I&I three times, I got nowhere.
I tried Bastet with Thief sub, I couldn't stall until thief was up and got ohko'd by DQ Hera.
So yea gungho, you leave me with no choice, I have to use THE B A G G I.
Being able to barely take a hit from Disco Hera from full hp was really crucial. (Also if we didn't just got the latent awakenings I'm not sure if I'd be able to take that hit!)

(http://i.imgur.com/7Y3WudA.png)
Also highly recommend raising a GDK if you have a green team.
6cd heartbreaker that is also anti-bind? LOW COST? Legend mode mvp
I used her for wave 4 Kraken's pre-empt green bind, and THEN she was up by wave 7 Scarlet's final form where she binded both leads. Haha, doesn't matter though, a bind recover AND heartbreaker at the same time makes short work of her.

Still wasn't an easy run. I was lucky I didn't get heart-trolled at all throughout the whole thing. Stalled like 3 turn on Wave 6 Scarlet's first form.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 18, 2015, 07:46:11 PM
./stares into the distance

I've skill maxed literally everything in Sb1, except for Ryuuga.

Like, Literally, even Shiva/Lakshmi and Saiga Invade.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 18, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
Isis will get walled by Armadel probably
eh really? I mean all she does is spam binds which Isis gives no shits about. And then once you bring her to 50% you ohko ez
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 18, 2015, 09:55:26 PM
eh really? I mean all she does is spam binds which Isis gives no shits about. And then once you bring her to 50% you ohko ez

Probably you won't get walled but if you don't kill her quick she can get annoying fast. She turns heart to green and you have to remember your team would be like lv 30 when you reach her. So those 13k (or so? Forgot) attacks suddenly looks more threatening.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 18, 2015, 10:03:47 PM
she still hits like a paper towel though :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 18, 2015, 10:05:26 PM
she still hits like a paper towel though :V

She hits like a paper towel until you remember that your team's HP is going to be effectively halved cause of lower levels.

Also, I did Izanami mythical today, it was surprisingly painless once I realized that trying a mythical difficulty dungeon right after waking up was a horrible idea. Managed to drop both DIza and LIza.

Also, Awoken Horus is kinda funny for this dungeon since you get an artificial 2-turn delay on DIza because Horus's activate takes mirthless smile away and she'll just try to recast it :V

Good thing too since I intend to use DIza on my final horus team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 18, 2015, 10:28:38 PM
eh I'm seeing around 17k HP for that fight which is enough for sure

also Isis shields and stuff


DQ is a much bigger problem, but I've seen Isis + Karin survive it thanks to resists
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 18, 2015, 10:55:25 PM
My Gabriel team has such laughable stats in the best of circumstances that I'm confident my ridiculous modifiers and boatload of +eggs will carry me through most level up content.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 18, 2015, 11:29:07 PM
I may have to start considering a blue team as well using gabriel and the like. I'm one skillup away from maxing Sun Quan!

But my specialty so far is definitely green with light and dark following right behind it. Red and blue are.... yyyyeah.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 19, 2015, 12:53:58 AM
I may have to start considering a blue team as well using gabriel and the like. I'm one skillup away from maxing Sun Quan!

But my specialty so far is definitely green with light and dark following right behind it. Red and blue are.... yyyyeah.

Do it do it do it! All you need is Reine or Andro (preferably both but you only need one with that setup) and you should be good if you got Gabe and Sun Quan.

Unfortunately there's not much I can do to help, Gabriels are very territorial and hate being on teams together.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 19, 2015, 01:27:34 AM
eh I'm seeing around 17k HP for that fight which is enough for sure

Plus Eggs OP.

My Gabriel team has such laughable stats in the best of circumstances that I'm confident my ridiculous modifiers and boatload of +eggs will carry me through most level up content.

Again plus eggs OP.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 19, 2015, 01:37:26 AM
Unfortunately there's not much I can do to help, Gabriels are very territorial and hate being on teams together.

My two gabriels look at their future on my Awoken Lakshmi team and raise an eyebrow at this statement. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 19, 2015, 01:59:02 AM
My two gabriels look at their future on my Awoken Lakshmi team and raise an eyebrow at this statement. :V

Sub Gabriels just lament the fact that they aren't Andromedas. Although the enhanced hearts are something, could be better than I think.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 19, 2015, 02:11:05 AM
Just because Andromeda is a better blue sub than Gabriel, doesn't mean that Gabriel is bad. Obviously I would rather have two Andromedas than two Gabriels, but these two will do just fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 19, 2015, 02:57:03 AM
Fair enough, I mean I happily use Ruka even though she's basically just Shit Andro, but I guess the idea of husbando being a poor man's anything is upsetting to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 19, 2015, 03:44:33 AM
Plus Eggs OP.

Again plus eggs OP.
are they really OP when you basically have to have them for lategame? It's more like plus eggs are a given right?

Unless Bastet/Ra are so op you dont actually need +eggs for themi wouldnt know i cant roll either of them >____>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 19, 2015, 05:23:24 AM
are they really OP when you basically have to have them for lategame? It's more like plus eggs are a given right?

You don't HAVE to have them for the late-game, it just helps for certain teams.

Quote
Unless Bastet/Ra are so op you dont actually need +eggs for themi wouldnt know i cant roll either of them >____>

I was able to 0-stone Zaerog Infinity with Awoken Bastet before I had invested pluses into them, but Nordis is a different story due to his 50% Light and Wood resist (Awoken Ra can still steamroll him with minimal pluses using LKali/LKali/Lu Bu/Awoken Isis) and Scarlet requires ridiculous luck to do it without pluses.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 19, 2015, 07:04:14 AM
[...]the idea of husbando being a poor man's anything is upsetting to me.[...]

Now you know why I was so excited for the new Tyrannos ult and Awoken Horus.

Fortunately, one of them exceeded my wildest expectations, unfortunately the other one... didn't.

starter dragons OP where
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 19, 2015, 07:50:09 AM
I'm beginning to get really annoyed at those &/%$ cost-restricted dungeons..... i've got boatloads of good leaders for them, but the subs are the real pain in the ass.

And speaking of this..... Gungho, just because Echidna is getting somewhat obsolete doesn't mean you should forget about Scarlet Snake Princess!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 19, 2015, 08:57:02 AM
I'm beginning to get really annoyed at those &/%$ cost-restricted dungeons..... i've got boatloads of good leaders for them, but the subs are the real pain in the ass.

Legend format dungeons are far worse :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 19, 2015, 10:49:44 AM

And speaking of this..... Gungho, just because Echidna is getting somewhat obsolete doesn't mean you should forget about Healer Girls!

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 19, 2015, 02:57:04 PM
So I gave him a bit of a whirl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlIrrKZA72Y), I guess... Uh, I'm not sure what to say? I could probably snap a lot of shit in half if I had Ares I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 19, 2015, 07:14:59 PM
I'm a celebrity? (http://imgur.com/DALNsIy)

Meanwhile, I failed to make a basic combo with Sakuya again and died to Cauchemar.

Not really sure how to handle this with Light or Dark because absorbs are everywhere. Whelp.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 19, 2015, 07:58:07 PM
Saved up 200 stamina for ocean dragon knight to get my last Sun Quan skillup.

Not a single goddamn one dropped.

If I were a weaker person this would be my breaking point for buying stones and spamming it until it was finally over.

But I resist. There's 12 more days for this rotation. I can do this, I know I can.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 19, 2015, 08:06:36 PM
This has been my struggle with Red Sprite.

240 stamina down the drain for Master runs; no drops.

Ugggghhhhh I've been spending literally all of my stamina over the last three days over this and I only have 13 sprites.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 19, 2015, 09:40:52 PM
Would somebody mind taking a look at my box (which is relatively but not completely up to date) and suggesting a monster that I can use to team challenge relatively tough (Legendary Seaway and harder) content? Or is that more of a case-by-case thing?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 19, 2015, 10:56:53 PM
you can technically just awoken ra everything lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 12:16:18 AM
With x10? Yeah I guess. Maybe I'm just not good enough at Ra for that or I don't have the right friends to sub in, I gave that a try and it didn't seem that great. What team are you picturing for that? Just Ra/WKali/Wkali/Wkali/BKali/Sun Quan?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 20, 2015, 12:21:34 AM
Honestly, as far as I know, change that Sun Quan for Awoken Isis and you literally have the ideal Awoken Ra team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 12:44:31 AM
That's just the Ra team I use for day to day stuff. Is Isis really important for getting challenge clears on non-technical content? I would've figured the damage boost would be much more important for trying to beat down seven million health with x10 attack than bind clear for binds that don't exist. Maybe Isis would be better for the higher-level technicals though, and I imagine she's going to be infinitely easier to come by as a hypermax lead, but I feel like I would miss the extra damage a lot.

As for being an optimal Ra team outsides of challenges that varies based on the dungeon obviously, but again I would rather have Sun Quan most of the time. It helps that mine is hypermax and I don't own an Isis, but most of the time I can just vaporize an enemy that threatens me with binds using Sun Quan's active and still have some attack bonus left over for the next enemy. Pre-emptive binds are a different story, but the insurance of being absolutely certain that anything I touch will die no matter how much health it has and that it can't hit me back even if it doesn't is great, whereas bind recovery is a little situational on a team that has that much power to just kill troublesome floors outright if necessary.

I wish I had Isis for the rare-but-threatening pre-emptive wood or water binds and for the extra lock resist to give me 100% immunity (although that stops mattering when ultimate black Kali comes out) but I don't think I would use her every day. The low cooldown on a her skill to active Ra's damage enhance in a pinch is probably super helpful too, but I would rather have my overkill-tier damage enhance for safety. Maybe I'll change my mind once I get more comfortable playing Ra.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 20, 2015, 12:51:31 AM
Oh I didn't notice that you meant Sun Quan as a sub leader, I meant use Awoken Isis as a sub cause she covers blue/green, lkali, dkali and awoken ra cover the other colors so whatever, that's what I meant.

Plus, a x100 multiplier with TPAs is more than enough for just about every content out there save for maybe Ultimate Arena, you seriously don't need enhancers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 01:06:34 AM
The enhance comes up when I have a board that can't do white TPAs, or can't do them easily. It's basically either a delay, which is useful, or a auto-TPA activation since it gives a similar boost to the same monsters (and Sun Quan himself, but he hits much less hard because he's not boosted by Ra's enhance and I don't tend to go out of my way to make blue TPAs). It's versatile. Isis is versatile too (and has better stats) but I can't imagine her skill's three levels of utility (healing, bind recovery, short-cooldown blank skill) coming up as often as Sun Quan's (defensive delay, prong replacer, delay as pseudo-haste).

But yeah, I'm talking specifically about challenge dungeons mostly. And she's of slightly more limited utility there, and I feel much more like I need damage help.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 20, 2015, 01:40:12 AM
Medjedra sucks, they said.

He's not worth a spot on any team, they said.

Just roll for Kushi, they said.

WELL FUCK ALL OF THEM

TAKE MY HAND, AND LET'S GO TO THE END OF THE WORLD


(http://i.imgur.com/x2wJixE.png) (http://i.imgur.com/t5kPZ2r.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 01:47:39 AM

TAKE MY HAND, AND LET'S GO TO THE END OF THE WORLD[/i]


Don't make fun of Medjed and his tragic lack of hands. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 20, 2015, 01:49:25 AM
Don't make fun of Medjed and his tragic lack of hands. :V

If you get to keep using Magic terminology when this is not Magic, Chirei gets to make fun of Medjedra for not having hands. :V

Also Awoken Isis doesn't do HP healing, she's a shield, FYI.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 20, 2015, 02:02:32 AM
Don't make fun of Medjed and his tragic lack of hands. :V

I actually wasn't making fun of him, though no one says you need to grab someone else's hand with one of yours - it's just the customary method us mortals are used to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 02:09:39 AM
If you get to keep using Magic terminology when this is not Magic, Chirei gets to make fun of Medjedra for not having hands. :V

Look, I tried to stop, but it's a reflex so I stopped trying. Besides, "dark" as a type sounds slightly dorkier than I can handle. Sorry if it bothers you/others.

Also Awoken Isis doesn't do HP healing, she's a shield, FYI.

Oh shit you're right. Yeah, that does make a difference. The number of times that comes up is not enormous, but it's much more than the heal I should have known better than to think it was. Again that's a little bit of a situational thing, but it's a significant situation that I have no better way around.

I actually wasn't making fun of him, though no one says you need to grab someone else's hand with one of yours - it's just the customary method us mortals are used to.

Maybe he has some kind of bizarre hands under his sheet or something.:D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 20, 2015, 02:17:16 AM
Look, I tried to stop, but it's a reflex so I stopped trying. Besides, "dark" as a type sounds slightly dorkier than I can handle. Sorry if it bothers you/others.

It just gets real confusing sometimes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 20, 2015, 02:22:51 AM
Look, I tried to stop, but it's a reflex so I stopped trying. Besides, "dark" as a type sounds slightly dorkier than I can handle. Sorry if it bothers you/others.

Basically what Trance said, yeah. Seeing "white Kali" just makes me think "I am fairly certain she's from India actually?"

Unrelated, it sure is nice when you accidentally take the wrong team into a dungeon and are able to clear anyway:

(http://i.imgur.com/raUnXuUl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/raUnXuU.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 20, 2015, 02:33:52 AM
Basically what Trance said, yeah. Seeing "white Kali" just makes me think "I am fairly certain she's from India actually?"

It's easier when you consider that R/B/G/D/L are attributes and not types.

Types would be Balanced, Attacker, etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 20, 2015, 02:37:22 AM
That's just the Ra team I use for day to day stuff. Is Isis really important for getting challenge clears on non-technical content? I would've figured the damage boost would be much more important for trying to beat down seven million health with x10 attack than bind clear for binds that don't exist. Maybe Isis would be better for the higher-level technicals though, and I imagine she's going to be infinitely easier to come by as a hypermax lead, but I feel like I would miss the extra damage a lot.

As for being an optimal Ra team outsides of challenges that varies based on the dungeon obviously, but again I would rather have Sun Quan most of the time. It helps that mine is hypermax and I don't own an Isis, but most of the time I can just vaporize an enemy that threatens me with binds using Sun Quan's active and still have some attack bonus left over for the next enemy. Pre-emptive binds are a different story, but the insurance of being absolutely certain that anything I touch will die no matter how much health it has and that it can't hit me back even if it doesn't is great, whereas bind recovery is a little situational on a team that has that much power to just kill troublesome floors outright if necessary.

I wish I had Isis for the rare-but-threatening pre-emptive wood or water binds and for the extra lock resist to give me 100% immunity (although that stops mattering when ultimate black Kali comes out) but I don't think I would use her every day. The low cooldown on a her skill to active Ra's damage enhance in a pinch is probably super helpful too, but I would rather have my overkill-tier damage enhance for safety. Maybe I'll change my mind once I get more comfortable playing Ra.
Isis active lets you have an active up every turn with Ra so yeah potentially 100% 100x is way more useful than a single large burst which you probably wont even need or reach because of it's long cooldown.

Also with Isis you have 100% bind immunity for each color so you can't ever be screwed over by binds whereas if SQ gets binded you can't do shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 20, 2015, 02:59:53 AM
I have Ceres for a hard counter against binds! She's not skillmax or anything (I should really take care of that, but Meimei is getting my woodpys for now), but she can surely save me when using A. Ra and Kali/Sun Quan/DIza get bound.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 20, 2015, 03:07:09 AM
Maybe he has some kind of bizarre hands under his sheet or something.:D

You don't wanna look under the sheet. I did once, and it turns out his entire body is made of lasers. I racked up a pretty large hospital bill after that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 20, 2015, 04:04:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/TXQowbh.png)

Perseverance always wins.

Last 100 stamina before 2.5x ended, got two skillups. Got me the last one. Glad I didn't give in to temptation.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 20, 2015, 12:52:16 PM
Isis active lets you have an active up every turn with Ra so yeah potentially 100% 100x is way more useful than a single large burst which you probably wont even need or reach because of it's long cooldown.

Also with Isis you have 100% bind immunity for each color so you can't ever be screwed over by binds whereas if SQ gets binded you can't do shit.

Do keep in mind that when I talk about my Ra team, I use Ra/Kali for leads so my modifier before prongs is 60x, not 100x. That is considerably less damage, so sometimes an extra damage enhance can make a difference. Not often, granted, but 60x doesn't seem to be enough to cleanly one-shot absoluty everything all the time.

The horrifying implications of this conversation seem to be that I'm now obligated to skillmax a third Kali so I can swap her into a sub slot and run an Isis friend for dungeons with notable (non-daaaark) pre-emptive binds and/or huge pre-emptive attacks. And that means I need more Angelits. And I don't think I'm ready to do that now, if ever.

Edit: Of course, part of the reason I run my team at 60x like I do is because it's the best way to fill out the colors with the things I have without losing prongs and board changes, so obviously that's not set in stone once Isis comes out and I can use her as a friend lead. Still not sure I'm willing to give up 297 +eggs and a delay, but it's not like the friend Kali has to be there for any reason.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 20, 2015, 06:24:25 PM
...Huh, so the mugs and invade bowls are in the PEM now?  Neat!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 20, 2015, 08:07:53 PM
Quote
- Beginning Tuesday, 7/21, the Daily Dungeons will feature permanent 2x Drop (Tuesday-Friday) and 2x Coin (Weekend) rates, regardless of whether or not an event is in effect
- Starting Friday, 7/24, the standard Metal/Jewel Dragon dungeons will be combined with their Super Metal/Jewel Dragon counterparts into one Limited Time Dungeon with two separate floors
- King Dragons will appear in the standard Metal/Jewel Dragon dungeons at at rates equivalent to the older dungeons' 2x bonus
- These combined dungeons will have new names (?Metal Dragon Infestation!?, etc.), and 1 Magic Stone will be awarded the first time they are completed
- Starting 7/24, Limited Time Dungeons will also appear more frequently each day

 :toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 21, 2015, 01:56:49 AM
Star Vault is up tomorrow, and yet again it's on the second rotation, which puts it cleanly after work for me. I'm very happy with this trend, I hope it's permanent.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 21, 2015, 02:18:20 AM
Do keep in mind that when I talk about my Ra team, I use Ra/Kali for leads so my modifier before prongs is 60x, not 100x. That is considerably less damage, so sometimes an extra damage enhance can make a difference. Not often, granted, but 60x doesn't seem to be enough to cleanly one-shot absoluty everything all the time.

The horrifying implications of this conversation seem to be that I'm now obligated to skillmax a third Kali so I can swap her into a sub slot and run an Isis friend for dungeons with notable (non-daaaark) pre-emptive binds and/or huge pre-emptive attacks. And that means I need more Angelits. And I don't think I'm ready to do that now, if ever.

Edit: Of course, part of the reason I run my team at 60x like I do is because it's the best way to fill out the colors with the things I have without losing prongs and board changes, so obviously that's not set in stone once Isis comes out and I can use her as a friend lead. Still not sure I'm willing to give up 297 +eggs and a delay, but it's not like the friend Kali has to be there for any reason.
Wait what? You already have all the pieces of the best Ra team so I'm not sure why you need the third Kali?

Just do Ra/LKali/LKali/DKali/SQ/Ra and you're set. The only way this team gets better is with aIsis (minus c10 shenanigans)


Also don't use aIsis as a friend lead with Ra she boosts water only

gabriel + aIsis actually does work though :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 21, 2015, 02:29:26 AM
Wait what? You already have all the pieces of the best Ra team so I'm not sure why you need the third Kali?

Just do Ra/LKali/LKali/DKali/SQ/Ra and you're set. The only way this team gets better is with aIsis (minus c10 shenanigans)

Also don't use aIsis as a friend lead with Ra she boosts water only

Ha ha oh christ fuck me. Forget I said that.:derp:

gabriel + aIsis actually does work though :V

Soooooort of, yeah. I mean, obviously she literally works, but the colors are kind of awkward for me. I don't have any easy access to black or red, so it would have to be white/blue/green every turn, which isn't great. Especially since Gabriel changes away white. Tweaking the team for use with Isis is something to keep in mind, since she does provide a lot of extremely useful abilities for a Gabriel team, but I'm probably not going to use her the way my team is now. Which is too bad, because she really dumps on Threedia in Dragon Rush.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 21, 2015, 02:39:07 AM
oh right gabirel forces you to use red welp

gungho pls where are the water/fire subs

B/R Ult Hermes would be great
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 21, 2015, 02:47:03 AM
oh right gabirel forces you to use red welp

gungho pls where are the water/fire subs

B/R Ult Hermes would be great

I could use Siegfried, but then I'm out white, and also I wouldn't dare slight Reine by cutting her for a low-rent version of herself. I've technically got a shitload of copies of Beast Rider too, I could theoretically cut Ruka for him since he doesn't actually lose me any colors with his activation. Or I could cut Sun Quan for Orochi since Isis already covers his colors, but the sheer stat cut I would take might be too much especially since I already have a low-recovery dragon weighing down my stats.

Actually yeah, Gabriel/Reine/Merlin/Sun Quan/Beyzul/Isis sounds kind of good on paper. It's not a team I would use often by any stretch, but it might be useful for clearing a small handful of dungeons that are hard or impossible for me otherwise. And by that I mean literally just dragon rush off the top of my head, but that's something. Are there any obvious holes in that setup that I'm overlooking?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 21, 2015, 03:32:04 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/rnnA9Da.png) (http://i.imgur.com/cjZPHH1.png)

guess that's done.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 21, 2015, 07:47:15 AM
Achievements of the day: Got both Endless Coridors Zeus and Golden Keeper to about 10% HP before they murdered me, which means Awoken Horus is good because I couldn't even get close to that with F/L rofl

also I uh

i just realized exactly how many TAMADRAs I currently have

(http://i.imgur.com/qJyfanl.png)

help they're taking over my box (http://i.imgur.com/qJyfanl.png)

Also can somebody with the power change my secondary leader to Athena? Now that I have rank 228 I can run athena on my athena team (shocking, I know) and I have been using her a lot more than GZL lately. Granted that this will likely change once Vishnu ult hits NA but that ain't gonna be for a while yet

PS: Confirmed that x2 rates are now permanent in NA server as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 21, 2015, 08:32:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/h1B3IyA.png)

oh yeah and i guess i've been playing PAD for 1 year or something

EDIT:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/716127781824864/

Awoken Meimei, Awoken Shiva, Ult Cao Cao and Ult Durga added to PAD EU, add Machine typings, etc.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 21, 2015, 09:55:38 AM
Can't wait. I've got Meimei all ready to go.

Sadly, I have to skip out on Star Vault today. And it's at a prime time for me too! But I've only got one stone to my name. For now, I'm just going to refine my farming team (read: work on ROdin skillups) so I can be more efficient and ready next time it comes around. Also meanwhile, work on evolving Astaroth to attacker mode, Sun Quan once and then again to B/G ult, and Ra once and then to Awoken Ra, which means I still need to finish evolving Sphinx and Sopdet.

It's gonna be a busy week.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 21, 2015, 12:36:40 PM
I mostly need Friday Dungeon for evo mats and then Awoken Shiva and Awoken Meimei should be a thing.  I think I have the mats for uevo Durga as well.

Cao Cao will have to wait until I have one. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 21, 2015, 12:38:49 PM
Well shit, 400 day login bonus. Forgot I had that coming. There's a blue gala up and it's been a little while since we saw hero gods, how about it Gungho...?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 21, 2015, 01:20:13 PM
EU seems to have gotten two exclusive features to their 8.0.1, with KR getting it down the line and supposedly NA as well:

-Can see 10 random users instead of 3 for more variety.
-Notifications when Stamina is full.


hahahhaha get rekt jp
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 21, 2015, 01:40:11 PM
EU seems to have gotten two exclusive features to their 8.0.1, with KR getting it down the line and supposedly NA as well:

-Can see 10 random users instead of 3 for more variety.
-Notifications when Stamina is full.


hahahhaha get rekt jp
10 randoms?  That is actually SUPER legit.  Might need to clear out my friend list of inactives or something to make room.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 21, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
10 randoms?  That is actually SUPER legit.  Might need to clear out my friend list of inactives or something to make room.

No need - randoms you see are unrelated to your cap as to whether you see them or not - unless you mean you want to add them the old fashioned way.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 21, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
hahahhaha get rekt jp

Now can people stop complaining? :ohdear:

Anyway, I made a one year box tour video --> https://t.co/mX07TcIZjh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 21, 2015, 01:46:26 PM
No need - randoms you see are unrelated to your cap as to whether you see them or not - unless you mean you want to add them the old fashioned way.
yeah, that was what I meant.  If I find someone Ilike I will wanna use em more, of course!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 21, 2015, 03:22:04 PM
I just ultimate evolved my Orochi to clear out some box space for Star Vault and realized that he seems like a solid Urd sub. I've been slowly putting together an Urd team for a while, and I think I might have it. How does Urd/Horus/Kagutsuchi/Orochi/Takeru/Urd sound?

I guess I'm not sure if it's worth finishing though. On paper Urd has my favorite leader skill of all of the Norns, but my Verdandi's team is done and she's rapidly approaching hypermax. Is there any reason to having both an Urd team and a Verdandi team? Will they play that differently?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 21, 2015, 03:29:02 PM
Is there any reason to having both an Urd team and a Verdandi team?

To show your
manslavery
devotion to the norns
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 21, 2015, 04:21:13 PM
I guess I'm not sure if it's worth finishing though. On paper Urd has my favorite leader skill of all of the Norns, but my Verdandi's team is done and she's rapidly approaching hypermax. Is there any reason to having both an Urd team and a Verdandi team? Will they play that differently?

Colors, mostly. Verdandi (atleast the variant I run) will suffer against bulky red cards. Urd will less so.

You have the husbando so I don't think you really to care about that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 21, 2015, 06:57:39 PM
Hah, even Kanetsugu won't stop my monoblue it seems.  Just gotta be careful and I am pretty sure I can beat Mythical without too big a hassle.

Hermes/Berry Dragon/R/BApollo/Karin/DMeta/(Skuld) is my team of choice.  If Apollo were raised properly it'd be easier, but even as he is I can do it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 21, 2015, 10:39:52 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AMq8hwDn75c/Va7I_zVf3CI/AAAAAAAACAQ/72tJQ24xBrU/w506-h900/15%2B-%2B1)

WHY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 21, 2015, 11:00:49 PM
Now can people stop complaining? :ohdear:
not until we get awoken Isis D:<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 22, 2015, 12:12:10 AM
I'll only stop complaining when I get awoken tyrannos that is just so good he can out-do my Awoken Horus.

So basically never.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 22, 2015, 12:15:33 AM
wow so Shiva Dragon is S rank in the JP tiers

probably thanks to Ares allowing him to have 18 fire rows + ares skill up almost every turn lmao


and Juggler X Juggler is A+
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 22, 2015, 12:17:19 AM
TIERS

./muffled fuck tiers for god's sake in the distance
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 22, 2015, 12:19:41 AM
eh lower tiers always get jumbled sure but I think if something gets put in S rank there's there for a good reason

like no one is gonna debate Awoken Ra/Bastet arent the best right now
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 22, 2015, 12:54:12 AM
Summary of JP Tier List: "hot new whale shit of the moment"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 22, 2015, 01:00:54 AM
eh lower tiers always get jumbled sure but I think if something gets put in S rank there's there for a good reason

like no one is gonna debate Awoken Ra/Bastet arent the best right now

i mean

if you really want me to go there i will absolutely point out that A) awoken ra is generally overestimated on ease, if not power, and is honestly as a whole strong but not nearly as 'DE BEST' as people expect and many people are flat drunk off x100 multiplier oh my god and a lot of leaders, not even down the line, are easier, more flexible, and arguably in many ways stronger.

I have no plans to even uevo my ra as anything other than a school lucifer sub. There are flat more accessible, usable options without the majestic 'fuck you, i have a kali on every button, FIGHT ME YOU NERDS'.

B) awoken cat is a combo god.


in short, no, i will absolutely fight you

and you will be left staring into the blazing hot sun as you bleed to death, Isis hooting and hollering as she is carried off into the distance in Skuld's womanly arms.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 22, 2015, 01:09:00 AM
ok actually i agree with you on that one, especially as an isis main who has been shit on by pretty much every horus/kirin jerk since the dawn of egypts :V


random question since awoken meimei is coming

did they change how ulting skillups work with the ult system changes?

like if I ult meimei now is there a chance of skill up or should I wait for them to change orbs

before there would be a chance since I remember I got skillups when ulting my mystic dragon even though his ult active is different from his prevo forms
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 22, 2015, 01:18:53 AM
did they change how ulting skillups work with the ult system changes?

like if I ult meimei now is there a chance of skill up or should I wait for them to change orbs

before there would be a chance since I remember I got skillups when ulting my mystic dragon even though his ult active is different from his prevo forms

Don't ult her now, she's not live yet. :V

To actually answer the question though, everything I've been seeing lately suggests that it does not work anymore. So just wait on the orbs to change.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 22, 2015, 02:25:32 AM
One more Star Vault pass should max out Verdandi, more or less, and then I'm going to finish hypermaxing Beyzul. And by the time I'm done with that hopefully I'll have Andro, or at least I can do Liu Bei (who, I know, I should've done before Verdandi for a few reasons, but fuck it, the queen of the harem should get hers before her men do, right?).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Moogs Parfait on July 22, 2015, 02:26:31 AM
Star vault haul.  Not enough to do what I want but what choice do I have?
http://imgur.com/JvRMr0V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 22, 2015, 02:34:08 AM
i got like 3 +eggs total...

neverluckybabyrage
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 22, 2015, 02:35:34 AM
i got like 3 +eggs total...

neverluckybabyrage

37 for 29 runs.

....pretty underpar from what I remember. But the result is shiva. And 2 attack + for kiriko.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 22, 2015, 02:45:14 AM
not until we get awoken Isis D:<

well hey, at least awoken Isis is an inevitability :ohdear:

like no one is gonna debate Awoken Ra/Bastet arent the best right now

Awoken Ra is only good if you have the subs for his team composition. It's far easier to make a strong Awoken Bastet team than it is for Awoken Ra, janky A.Ra teams with 0 LKalis are very prone to orb-troll and even PAD Master Games needed to use Mastering as a backup. I disagree that Awoken Ra is absolutely the best.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 22, 2015, 06:50:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/wwgeGE0l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/wwgeGE0.jpg)

It's still relevant!!!!!!11

(http://i.imgur.com/zr4Onlsl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/zr4Onls.jpg)

Also who needs Star Vault anyway :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 22, 2015, 08:23:05 AM
Finally managed to beat Wednesday Legend for the first time, sweapping out my Gigas on the Awoken Horus team for Izanagi (cause that means 100% skill lock resist).

Also beat Kanetsugu Mythical one minute before it went away :V

Masks wasn't hard at all and Kanetsugu, although I cut it very close right at the end, wasn't too problematic either, it's amazing what having a x6,25 leader can do for you, especially one that has TPAs.

Seriously Awoken Horus why were you not a thing sooner ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 22, 2015, 08:51:19 AM
before there would be a chance since I remember I got skillups when ulting my mystic dragon even though his ult active is different from his prevo forms

Well, I ulted my Ronia with the new ulting system and it gave me lots of exp and 2 skillups.

Important, for everyone who want to evolve AMeimei:
the jewel skill changes aren't coming at the same time!!!!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 22, 2015, 11:13:48 AM
Fingers crossed that the jewel skill update comes tomorrow so I don't have to wait in AMei ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 22, 2015, 11:49:04 AM
Well, I ulted my Ronia with the new ulting system and it gave me lots of exp and 2 skillups.
Well in her case her AS doesn't change either, so perhaps it's only the ones who change on ult but who use skillups for their pre-ult form as materials?(such as the aforentioned Mystic Dragons)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 22, 2015, 12:31:38 PM
Fingers crossed that the jewel skill update comes tomorrow so I don't have to wait in AMei ;;

Important, for everyone who want to evolve AMeimei:
the jewel skill changes aren't coming at the same time!!!!

Well in her case her AS doesn't change either, so perhaps it's only the ones who change on ult but who use skillups for their pre-ult form as materials?(such as the aforentioned Mystic Dragons)

New and old ult evo work in a similar way, first your monster is getting evolved, then it gets all the stuff fed as power ups.
In case of Meimei, the Jewel Skill needs to change first, otherwise you won't be able to get skillups.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 22, 2015, 01:44:55 PM
Fingers crossed that the jewel skill update comes tomorrow so I don't have to wait in AMei ;;

I think you actually want the jewel update to NOT arrive, otherwise it doesn't count because it uses the skill of the old form to calculate if it is compatiable for skillups.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 22, 2015, 01:55:23 PM
I think you actually want the jewel update to NOT arrive, otherwise it doesn't count because it uses the skill of the old form to calculate if it is compatiable for skillups.

Really? that sounds more like a bug   :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 22, 2015, 03:02:56 PM
It was originally a bug of sorts (or unintended feature), but I'm not sure if they've fixed it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 22, 2015, 04:18:44 PM
Oh. In that case, evolving as soon as I can `-`b
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 22, 2015, 05:01:00 PM
whatever it is

i will evolve a. mei immediately anyway because :meihype: woodpys will work anyway
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 22, 2015, 05:32:17 PM
Still not sure if I'm gonna evolve mine. Right now I just use her on Athena, so losing god type sucks. But she's a legit-ass lead, so I could totally see using her for that. Something like Mei/GZL/Liu Bei/Susano/Sasuke/Mei sounds good (although the  Liu Bei's active becomes basically dead, and that's not thaaaat different from my Verdamdi team).

I don't really have an immediate replacement for her slot on Athena (no Apocalypse) for as rarely as I use that team and her skillups took sooooo long to get... I'm out of Woodpys too. Hmm. Tough choice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 22, 2015, 05:53:40 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/k0PsOvDl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/k0PsOvD.jpg)

screw your resolve script
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 22, 2015, 05:58:05 PM
(although the  Liu Bei's active becomes basically dead, and that's not thaaaat different from my Verdamdi team)

You could use a Hanzo instead of Sasuke I guess.

Or wait for Satsuki to come out :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 22, 2015, 05:59:03 PM
Right now my team idea is:

AMei/Athena/GZL/Astaroth or Sasuke/Parvati or Sasuke/flex

In which flex can be Susano, Ceres, Kushinada, dark or light attacker and so on. Liu Bei might be fine too, but his active is worthless on such a team, so it does feel kind of like a waste. 
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Post by: Edible on July 22, 2015, 06:00:46 PM
Liu Bei's active is hard to use on a lot of teams honestly, even ones that don't require the use of heart/dark orbs.

It's one reason why I'm thinking of replacing him on cats team
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 22, 2015, 06:05:04 PM
Well of course he's rough on Bastet, having too much green makes combos harder!
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Post by: Edible on July 22, 2015, 06:09:58 PM
Yeah, but he's so god damned good otherwise that he's generally more than worth keeping around :<

With that said, Mei has a much better active, much better stats (that HP :*), mostly better awakenings (2 TPA instead of 3, but everything else is better)...

Honestly I don't even know why I'm considering it, soon as I get her skilled up she's in :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 22, 2015, 06:10:58 PM
Liu Bei's active is hard to use on a lot of teams honestly, even ones that don't require the use of heart/dark orbs.

It's one reason why I'm thinking of replacing him on cats team

You have to master the art of purposely smudging up your board. It is a very strange thing to do, but you have to do it to make LOO BAE work, sadly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 22, 2015, 06:14:39 PM
Yeah, I can still find uses for him with Bastet, but it's a matter of getting a board that's got no more than like a third of green/dark/hearts or else I'll get can't-combo-this paralysis and die.

Edit: Also, for those interested - it's been confirmed that the skillup "bug" for uevo is fixed.  If you want to maximize your skillup chances for Meimei, wait until we get the green jewel changes (in probably 2-3 weeks).
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 22, 2015, 06:15:52 PM
Lessee what I can pull together.

Awoken Meimei/GZL/Susano gives me all of the necessary colors; Susano even gives some desperately needed RCV and tenacity.

Leaving two sub slots for -something-. Wood Wizard Leeza is still on-type, with a TPA and skill bind resist; she's also a fast anti-troll option with that 5-turn cooldown.

Wee Jas gives utility more than anything: +1 orb time, unbindable cleric type and delay? High RCV? Sweet deal, but that HP is suffering (600 weighted stats pls).

Ceres is a better cleric in the long term, but she only does bind removal and healing.

If I have a need for dark damage for some reason, Beelzebub. I already have it +297'd :V

Re: Liu Bei
As much as tripledongers are lovely, I think I'd prefer something with a shorter cooldown and a less intrusive active skill. A GZL enhance will easily cause the team to deal more than enough damage, while faster and not impairing Bastet or Meimei's leader skill.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 22, 2015, 06:59:32 PM
I just remembered that DMeta is attacker as well. She could give some added kick with dark damage and add to the damage reduction if needed, too.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 22, 2015, 07:36:40 PM
How is DMeta as a leader nowadays anyway? I remember her being the absolute best leader ever forever for a pretty long while (only losing to the Ro Bu Alliance) but then she kinda just disappeared.

And on that same vein, how's the Ro Bu alliance nowadays?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 22, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
It would be a stretch to call DMeta the absolute best at any time in her existence simply because of how very specific and REM heavy she used to be, and how very touchy HP conditional leaders are.

I can't honestly say I've used her much since her ult, though it was a huge buff for her to stay relevant. Maybe I'll patch together a DMeta team and take it for a spin later to see how she does nowadays.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 22, 2015, 08:33:33 PM
I've been kind of meaning to put together a Dmeta team for a long time (Meta/Hanzo/Finn/Loki/Satan/Meta maybe?) but I can't imagine that it's an amazing team. It's probably fine, just seems a little fragile. Honestly the only real reason I'm interested is because I want to try Satan, and he's mediocre at best with her, so I should probably just make a Satan team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 22, 2015, 08:40:27 PM
And on that same vein, how's the Ro Bu alliance nowadays?

Ronia/Lu Bu is largely outclassed by Ronia/Beelzebub, assuming you have a Lu Bu.  He is an integral part of the team (and his ult is STRONGK), but RoBub is a much more effective combination of leaders, and can clear a LOT of content.

I should note that the above is for Dark-centric Ronia teams. Fire Ronia is basically dead at this point, but this will almost certainly change when we get Scarlet.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 22, 2015, 09:41:20 PM
The only buff Fire Ronia has seen in months was Chiyome getting Devil-subtyping... still waiting for Belial skillups.

Red devils still don't have a proper enhance. Hera-Ur is probably a better lead for fire devils at this point.
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Post by: Edible on July 22, 2015, 09:47:33 PM
Honestly you'd be better off running Scarlet with Ronia as a sub anyway :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 22, 2015, 10:09:26 PM
Or run Scarlet with more Scarlet. (https://youtu.be/12UKXYnK0kE)
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Post by: Suikama on July 22, 2015, 10:22:06 PM
That team is ridiculous

It can even clear Kali (with some luck)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 22, 2015, 10:24:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Zm3tnND.png)

Great, I have something to dump my stamina on now. (http://i.imgur.com/Zm3tnND.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 23, 2015, 12:50:39 AM
I still think Liu Bei's AS is invaluable for end-game content (for cat at least) because we now have stupid things where you gotta deal 10mil+ against. Nordis in particular.
Unless your team is like MeiMeix2/Vishnux2 All hyper, you're gonna need 12 green orbs, or even 16 green orbs at times, and liu bei is your one-way ticket to that board. Definitely worth the effort to master the skill of dealing with a green-abundant board imo. Since you also get boards like that when Verdandi and Meimei are feeling happy sometimes.

(http://i.imgur.com/WW5KcFV.png)(http://i.imgur.com/OXDRqxt.png)

Also, this took long enough.
Never really uses gran but she's 2 skill lvs from max already somehow, so I might put some effort to max skill her.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 23, 2015, 12:54:23 AM
I was thinking earlier about how it might be fun to use Gran for laffs and because I like her art (although primarily just in her unevolved form, her evolved art is much less appealing in my opinion), but I'm never going to get around to doing that. Could see her as a sub for sure, just not sure on whaaaat.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 23, 2015, 01:28:31 AM
I have all the mats for her cept i just need to feed her to herself for skillups/awakenings
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 23, 2015, 03:06:21 AM
I'm considering RSonia/DQUr leads to try things eventually; seems like it should be viable for stuff if I play carefully enough, though I'll probably need lots of RCV/HP plus eggs to really make it work since even with hers/Ur's RCV boosts, one of my members in particular has zero starting RCV which hurts quite a bit.  Still, it seems like a fun team and a nice change from her usual use as a dark-centric team so I wanna mess with it more.  Minerva would go a LONG way for me towards making the team more viable since her orb change is fastish anyway, AND turns RSonia's active into a fullboard should I need such a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 23, 2015, 03:08:22 AM
I've cleared all the number dragon dungeons so far, but I have yet to see a Heavy Metal Dragon drop for me. Not that I really have any intent to invest anything into Sonia Gran anyway anytime soon-- I mean do consider:

Sonia Gran's total evo mats:
Heavy Metal Dragon + 883,883 Exp
Twin Dragon, Wangren + 707,107 Exp
Twin Dragon, Beyzul + 707,107 Exp
Swift Dragon Emperor, Threedia + 883,883 Exp
Star Dragon Emperor, Defoud  + 883,883 Exp
------------------
4 Super King Metal Dragon
6 Dragon Fruit
1 of each Trifruit
Devilit
Super King Ruby Dragon
Super King Sapphire Dragon
Super King Emerald Dragon
Super King Gold Dragon
3 Dragon Flower
Dub-rubylit
Dub-sapphlit
Dub-amelit
2 Dub-topalit
4 Dub-mythlit

And then 6,000,000 Exp to max level Sonia Gran herself, which is a total of 10,065,863 Exp overall.

And then there's the matter of skillups.

And then there's the matter of actually making her a decent team, and I have yet to find ideas that are not "Don't have DKali? Fuck you!".

Sonia Gran is easily one of the biggest investments in the entire game and yet her scope of usefulness is so very small. It makes me kinda sad because she looks so cool and has lots of potential.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 23, 2015, 04:39:44 AM
it has just dawned to me that I can just use my dupe Andromeda over Awoken Karin

sure some skill lock resists go to "waste", but I get the same number of rows and I have DKali for the fullboard.


the real key for Isis teams to be super optimized though is Ult Hermes needs to be Water/Dark with 3 rows. Hermes is already good on aIsis but he competes for Reine's spot and if you replace Reine with him you miss out on the AndroReine combo. If he was Water/Dark though then he'd be the best choice since he would be a lot more useful than Bodin or Dark Karin.

aIsis, Andro, Reine, Hermes, aKarin the dream

Or if Ult Nut is Water/Dark that would be good too. Just give me more ults dammit
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 23, 2015, 04:52:00 AM
I dreamt of Apocalypse/Sonia Gran/Fagan/Defoud/Arthur/Apocalypse being a use for Granny, but... so much exp being tossed into not too useful stat sticks.

It might work out. Maybe.

3x +egg rate for next event confirmed
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 23, 2015, 05:39:05 AM
*Runic Enchantment*
[Duration]: 7/24 (Fri), 12:00 AM - 8/2 (Sun), 11:59 PM (PDT)

A whispered charm, a prayer, a promise--the smallest words can bring us courage in our darkest hours.

Stand firm! These enchantments are here to guide your way! For this event, a 3x chance for +Eggs to appear in Normal Dungeons is available!

■① Daily Login Bonuses
7/24 - 8/2 - 1 free Magic Stone
*Bonuses will be distributed as late as 3:59 AM (PDT) the following day.

■② Monsters in the Hills
It?s not just a mere ogre or a rock troll. What comes from the mountainside might drive you from the village!

7/24 - 7/25 - Ultimate Dragon Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*
7/26 - 7/27 - Ultimate Devil Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*
7/28 - 7/29 - Ultimate God Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*
7/30 - 7/31 - Ultimate Hera Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*

■③ Patrons of Magic
In caves in the forest, or in oceanside cliffs, you never know what wondrous beings you might find. Be careful not to disturb them!

7/25 - 7/27 - Scarlet Snake Princess
7/31 - 8/2 - Shadow Sprite

■④ Special Event Content
Beware the Black Beast and those that follow him.

7/31 - 8/2 - ????????????
(rdj edit: probably Aamir, which I personally am hype for)

■⑤ Special Event Dungeon Schedule
The Spirit Jewels are active from 7/24 to 8/2!
See here for details: http://on.fb.me/1swdWlb
7/24 - Beelzebub Descended!
7/25 - The Thief Descended!
7/25 - Guan Yinping!
7/26 - Zeus-Dios Descended!
7/26 - Zhao Yun Descended!
7/27 - Hera-Sowilo Descended!
7/28 - Kaguya-Hime!
7/29 - The Goddess Descended!
7/30 - Hera-Is Descended!
7/31 - Sphinx Descended!
8/1 - Satan Descended!
8/2 - Sonia Gran Descended!

■⑥ Awesome Daily Bonuses
Pal Egg Event:
7/24 - 8/2 - Rare Evo Carnival

Dungeon Bonus:
3x chance for +Eggs to appear in Normal Dungeons [extends until 8/3 (Mon), 12:00 PM PDT]
2x King appearance rates for the Metal and Jewel Dragons (Now Permanent!)
Fusion Bonus:
2x chance for 'GREAT!' or 'SUPER!!' EXP Gain
2x Skill Up rate

-----

Also, on EU's Facebook page: ...I get that king dragons have skills now but this seems like a bad place to try and use them.

(http://i.imgur.com/ivgKu4M.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 23, 2015, 09:12:37 AM
Also, on EU's Facebook page: ...I get that king dragons have skills now but this seems like a bad place to try and use them.

(http://i.imgur.com/ivgKu4M.png)

But... but... he looks so happy.
Just look at him, his innocent smile in the face of almost certain death.  :derp:
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 23, 2015, 11:00:15 AM
"oh hey I sure would like to enjoy some of the update content when I wake up at  6:30 so I won't be distracted at work"

>maint doesn't end until 6:00 Pacific

fuk :negative:
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Post by: trancehime on July 23, 2015, 12:05:50 PM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/624172697048645632

Indigo stats.

Her AS creates 3 dark and blue orbs randomly on the board. It also locks them. Either this means they can't be changed, or they can't be moved. We'll see the proper mechanics tomorrow.
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Post by: commandercool on July 23, 2015, 12:47:00 PM
3x +egg rates? How do I take advantage of that? Ocean Of Heaven? Skydragons? Sounds amazing, anyway.
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Post by: trancehime on July 23, 2015, 12:47:50 PM
3x +egg rates? How do I take advantage of that? Ocean Of Heaven? Skydragons? Sounds amazing, anyway.

Skydragons >= Legendary Dragons > OOH during weekends

Some say to do Tomb of Saint -Deep- during weekdays
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 23, 2015, 01:23:36 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/umlxkyH.jpg)

Hello, my queen.

3x normals could not have come at a better time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 23, 2015, 01:54:33 PM
oh boy time for ez plus eggsss


also Indigo might be the Water/Dark type I've been looking for? Depends what this lock thing is all about
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 23, 2015, 01:58:44 PM
Interesting notes about the increased random user visibility update:

-You can no longer just enter and exit a dungeon friend select screen to "shuffle" the list of users - it stays the same.
-You can, however, exit to the title screen, and there will be a new list of 10 users when you return.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 23, 2015, 02:11:47 PM
> Suikama finally starting to consider other options in place of Karin

Suikama dropping Karin the next time he rolls in 3...2....
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Post by: OverlordChirei on July 23, 2015, 02:29:20 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tvn4ANe.png)

#shotsfired
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Post by: trancehime on July 23, 2015, 02:42:30 PM
#shotsfired

GungHo should work harder so people can stop complaining about disparity
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 23, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
The notification thing for me is kinda moot since my stamina is rarely, if ever, maxed out, since I more or less measure my day by when I can run another dungeon :v

(that and I have over 200 stamina so it takes almost a full day to fill up from 0 anyway)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 23, 2015, 04:07:13 PM
I can see a notification being useful, since I often wait for my stamina to cap before I buy a coin dungeon. Aside from that it only really comes up if I oversleep by a lot on Sunday and didn't get around to playing the night before.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 23, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
Man, where my Awoken Meimei friends at? My friend list was fucking flooded with Awoken Bastets in no less than an  hour after she was available. Gotta start deleting them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 23, 2015, 04:32:11 PM
I'm actually wondering how the notification even works. Is it something that only works when the game is up?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 23, 2015, 04:37:17 PM
Probably works like PADGuide's, working whether or not it's open.

(Though PG's notification system is far more customizable and versatile...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Moogs Parfait on July 23, 2015, 05:56:47 PM
The notification comes from the PAD servers into either the Google Play or Apple notification system and then from those servers into your phone.  So it works even when the app is closed.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 23, 2015, 06:06:21 PM
Skydragons >= Legendary Dragons > OOH during weekends

Some say to do Tomb of Saint -Deep- during weekdays

Pretty sure that's the order for time efficiency (assume infinite stones)
And stam efficiency is the opposite order.
I do OOH on weekends, it's a long grind even without using stones haha

Edit:
Lock mechanics leak
-You can still move locked orbs
-Locked orbs can be enhanced
-Locked orbs cannot be changed into other orbs by your skills (formation included)
-Locked orbs cannot be changed into other orbs by enemies

I guess the best use would be lock -> use formation to guarantee you won't be orb-trolled.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 23, 2015, 07:20:16 PM
How does the boss of Legendary Skyway work? PDX's profile on him makes no sense. Does he just instantly kill you turn one, or does he do other things?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 23, 2015, 08:14:18 PM
Preemptive: Flame Body + Crossdraw Breath simultaneously
First turn: Blaze Aura + Triple Press simultaneously
Second turn: Fire Armor + Fanning Breath simultaneously
Third turn: Inferno Bullet
Every single turn after that: Burst End
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 23, 2015, 08:47:04 PM

Lock mechanics leak
-You can still move locked orbs
-Locked orbs can be enhanced
-Locked orbs cannot be changed into other orbs by your skills (formation included)
-Locked orbs cannot be changed into other orbs by enemies

I guess the best use would be lock -> use formation to guarantee you won't be orb-trolled.

Gave this a bit more thought.
While it does make 7star and stuff better, it is a terrifying skill that your enemies can use.
Imagine this: Spawn 12 poison + Lock all poison orbs
Have fun :v
This will make poison/jammer resists more valuable awakenings (which I'm ok with! because cat isn't op enough. And Karin's poison resist would make more sense) but it'd be a nightmare for A. Ra because depending on how the mechanics work, LKali might not be able to guarantee a 5 color board if there's locked orbs! and you can't cheat poison orbs with formations!

Edit:
https://www.facebook.com/padpuzzleanddragons/videos/682388095226579/
(Not 100% confirmed but very likely) Seems like for stuff like LKali you're still guaranteed 3 of each color as long as there's enough unlocked orbs for it to do so.  (I wonder what would happen if there's less than 15 unlocked orbs? Would it be smart enough to make spawning blue and dark a lower priority? or would it spawn in some order like when Ruel is used on a Meimei board with 3 lights, and green is spawned first?)

This opens up new possibilities in the future for light rainbow teams (Hathor, LKali, ARa, Gran, etc) if something like "Spawn 3 light and lock light orbs" is released.
This mechanic might be more interesting than I thought. :o
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Post by: hyorinryu on July 23, 2015, 09:00:01 PM
Dunno about 7-stars, but it makes full boards more interesting.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 23, 2015, 09:55:40 PM
welp looks like she's perfect with aKarin

and now I need Karin again...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 24, 2015, 07:34:18 AM
Yamato Takeru team progress:

YouTuberu is skill maxed, max level
Suzaku is skill maxed, max level. Will probably replace with second Suzaku in awoken form
Chiyome is skill maxed, but not max level nor fully awoken anymore.
Kiriko is skill maxed, max level. Good mob.
Belial is skill level 7. Even though he overlaps with YT, he lets me attack while still saving my heartmakers.

Ooh baby. This is too hype.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 24, 2015, 08:37:56 AM
So uh, how do we know when 3x has started?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 24, 2015, 08:48:31 AM
Legend+ Hera Ur Descend? with a smaller board?????

gungho pls

awoken susano and orochi HYPEEE

yomi still crying in the corner
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 24, 2015, 12:41:46 PM
Aw man here I was gonna be like "All that time spent skillmaxing Susano and he's getting reset already, and his typing will probably get worse, oh well" but he becomes green/red, so that's pretty great since I use him ln Verdandi.

Hope he keeps Attacker typing, but even if he doesn't that's probably a good deal.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 24, 2015, 01:01:37 PM
Good thing I have two Susano!

Though I am one skillup away from maxing Orochi though. :( on the other hand he becomes a Skuld sub AND compatible with Parvati and Meimei (kinda)! Please be good :ohdear:

Edit: holy shit please give me Mitsunari

Also new Apollo and Okuninushi ults!

Man, I just ulted TAMADRApurin too. So many light rows all of a sudden!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 24, 2015, 01:08:48 PM
I recorded an Indigo Descended! video in case anyone cares (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4WD46QPZYw)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 24, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Legend+ Hera Ur Descend? with a smaller board?????

gungho pls

awoken susano and orochi HYPEEE

yomi still crying in the corner

and Artemis too! I could have ulted her weeks ago but i'm still waiting to know her new side evo.....

this new pantheon looks really good, both in art and AS/LS

oh i have a new cute toy to WRECK WORLDS with:

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b599/Ciofecantes/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-07-24-09-30-33_zpshoxjprkj.png)
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Post by: Sapz on July 24, 2015, 02:42:31 PM
Man, I just ulted my Susano the other day. :V Oh well, awoken hype!

Yolorolled this morning for the carnival and got Hatsume, pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 24, 2015, 03:12:35 PM
I just hope the new Susano has better hp than his g/l version does. I love my green attacker team but they're so flimsy ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 24, 2015, 03:19:43 PM
I just hope the new Susano has better hp than his g/l version does. I love my green attacker team but they're so flimsy ;;

He's G/R and requires Goemon and Tengu ults, so most likely he will becomes Physical as one typing, high HP is quite likely.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 24, 2015, 03:46:57 PM
So

many

+eggs.

Maybe I've been lucky so far, but out of six runs Lightning Dragon has just been a half-price, very slightly worse, eight hour Star Vault.

👍
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 24, 2015, 04:19:46 PM
He's G/R and requires Goemon and Tengu ults, so most likely he will becomes Physical as one typing, high HP is quite likely.

Makes sense. I'm growing really fond of physical/attacker as a dual type.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 24, 2015, 04:24:04 PM
Makes sense. I'm growing really fond of physical/attacker as a dual type.

Physical/Attacker would be fantastic. Hopefully he inherits a shitload of skillboosts from Tengu.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 24, 2015, 04:26:28 PM
Meanwhile there's the issue of getting Tengu in the first place. What a bullshit dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 24, 2015, 04:30:30 PM
Meanwhile there's the issue of getting Tengu in the first place. What a bullshit dungeon.

They have descend carnivals now and one of them has tengu thankfully
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 24, 2015, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: Gungho JP
GungHo is looking for users to guest on the stream, period of search: 7/27 ~ 8/3

  -  You must be rank 300+
  -  You must be over 18 years of age



This was heavily suggested by the NA community and Antonio and co. did read it, so I wonder if they came up with this themselves? That and I wonder if we'll start doing it for our streams too... hmm
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 24, 2015, 06:54:07 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/0QPWmhD.jpg)

Ahahaha 7x6 Liu Bei boards maaaan hahahaa

4 TPAs + 1 Row lol
Forgot to screencap the damage but I one-shot Refive's 8.7mil hp (over 17mil for green team)
lmao orbs are painfully small on my ipod screen but this is really fun. (Orbs appears to be so large to me when I switch back to 6x5)
Much better gimmick than Legend mode.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on July 24, 2015, 08:01:55 PM
Oooh, new pantheon. I'm surprised it took so long for these guys to show up.

*Seeing Mori*

Those Sonia ults better be around the corner :\

On the otherhand, I just can't stay mad at blue physical support.

I really wanted L/B Apollo to be healer. Would have been amazing. I guess Attacker's cool too. I wonder if we'll get awoken ammy or awoken Yomi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 24, 2015, 08:03:16 PM
Important notice for NA people:

(http://i.imgur.com/CFOJBeo.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 24, 2015, 10:46:39 PM
oh shit it's YUKIMURA
(http://blog-imgs-46-origin.fc2.com/w/a/s/wasabipopcorn/2qthgcy.jpg)

and still no hermes ult

seriously why is water always last Isis Karin Hermes fuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 24, 2015, 11:22:18 PM
and still no hermes ult

seriously why is water always last Isis Karin Hermes fuck

Amaterasu and Yomi say hi.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 24, 2015, 11:29:14 PM
oh yeah although that pantheon is weird since Hino was like one of the first to get awoken and then they never touched it again till now

also is 3x really on I've done 4 runs and got 0 +eggs goddamit
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 25, 2015, 12:31:23 AM
oh yeah although that pantheon is weird since Hino was like one of the first to get awoken and then they never touched it again till now

also is 3x really on I've done 4 runs and got 0 +eggs goddamit

What are you running?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 25, 2015, 12:38:43 AM
Light T6

I wanted DubTopas but nope got none of those either >_________>

At least I got DKali finally max skilled

Also double Andro subs is actually amazing :V


Blue faires will eventually appear in coin dungeons right?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 25, 2015, 12:58:56 AM
Blue faires will eventually appear in coin dungeons right?

Yeah.

For the record, i've been very consistently getting 1-2 plus eggs per floor 5 run (make sure it's actually on 1.5x), so this is probably the sane person option for farming plus eggs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 25, 2015, 01:43:24 AM
It was 1.5x earlier today

i dunno i just have the worse luck in this game

okay second worse to matsy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 25, 2015, 01:53:32 AM
Physical/Attacker would be fantastic. Hopefully he inherits a shitload of skillboosts from Tengu.

Tengu is Physical/Devil and Goemon is Dragon/Physical so Awoken Susano getting Attacker is pretty much an impossibility.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 25, 2015, 02:07:36 AM
Quote from: some nerds
[16:04] <Chirei> since he said it so nonchalantly in the chat, that might be tonight's announcement?
[16:09] <rdj522> Well, considering the event notice said Aamir was next week, it's more likely the stream would be then.
[16:09] <rdj522> However... https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule
[16:10] <Chirei> they usually stream at... 9-10EST starting time?
[16:10] <Chirei> on a friday
[16:10] <Chirei> so i hope you're not too keen on super mario sunshine or the luigi's mansion race
[16:11] <Chirei> the worst itll probably run is a few minutes into overtime into pokemon blue

Right on cue. (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/1107544195940838/?type=1)

[22:01] <Chirei> looks like rip super mario sunshine
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 25, 2015, 02:14:40 AM
[22:01] <Chirei> looks like rip super mario sunshine
(http://i.imgur.com/JzTqGdgl.png)

I do want to see how they handle Aamir, though; Fafnir's going to be A Thing if they're running blind.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 25, 2015, 03:20:59 AM
okay second worse to matsy

This is true but so far I'm at an average of 1 +egg per round here and that's about what I can say for SV too, so I'm kind of digging this.

And to be sure, I should run OOH on the weekends, right?

Also I predict a godfest being announced soon too so I wonder what it'll be
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 25, 2015, 03:33:40 AM
oh yeah although that pantheon is weird since Hino was like one of the first to get awoken and then they never touched it again till now

also is 3x really on I've done 4 runs and got 0 +eggs goddamit

I think you're just unlucky. Keep grinding. I've very consistently gotten 1-2 per run today, and everyone I've talked to locally has seen the same results. 20 so far, Verdandi's gonna be done in no time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Yukarin on July 25, 2015, 05:04:06 AM
skydragons have also been giving me 1-2 plusses per run as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 25, 2015, 05:14:00 AM
This is true but so far I'm at an average of 1 +egg per round here and that's about what I can say for SV too, so I'm kind of digging this.

And to be sure, I should run OOH on the weekends, right?

Also I predict a godfest being announced soon too so I wonder what it'll be

OoH has the best stamina per +egg ratio, yes.

If you don't value money and stones at all then legendary dragon gives the best time efficiency.

But yeah..  Most people just do OoH I think.  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 25, 2015, 05:27:12 AM
I do value money and stones, so OoH it is.

Meanwhile, through various amounts of pondering, I just realized that I could make a fairly legit Tengu team (I know you said that there are special dungeons he drops from, but I may as well get the stone from him too, yeah?)

Guan Yinping/yamato takeru/Gigas/Echidna/Ice Samurai Ogre

I just, uh. Need to get another Yinping since I fed her away to make Awoken Meimei. And another Echidna, I guess. She could also be dropped for Mamiya or King Bubblie.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 25, 2015, 05:27:56 AM
technically KoG is the best overall since you get rankups too


but even now I STILL cant farm KoG

well maybe if I invested into my Goemon but ehh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 25, 2015, 05:46:28 AM
Regarding KoG farming

Dogs before gods (http://imgur.com/dfPikjJ)

Man this 10 million burst thing is awesome
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 25, 2015, 07:40:07 AM
This really should have gotten done a long time ago, I just need to realize 16x leaders are good too. :V

(http://i.imgur.com/LLdOEEgl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/LLdOEEg.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Oeq06K9l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Oeq06K9.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/fUriJX7l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/fUriJX7.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Espadas on July 25, 2015, 11:03:32 AM
"Great, 6 Angelit in a row!"
..... 0/6 LKali ......

"OHHH! Scarlet Snake Princess! I can finally finish my Echidna and get another one for cost-restricted!"
Full 150 stamina = 10 runs ----> 1 DROP  ----> 0/1 Echidna

Hey RNG, guess whaaaat?

,,|,,
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 25, 2015, 11:27:19 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/aS5wbsn.png)

FINALLY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 25, 2015, 11:37:56 AM
You say that as if you didn't do that in a day's time
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 25, 2015, 12:13:09 PM
You say that as if you didn't do that in a day's time

it was 10/47, which, while average, does kind of get grating after a while.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 25, 2015, 04:58:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/XFaIrxI.jpg)

My god, why do star vault ever again? For real, I've not been left empty handed more than two or three times so far, and I'm still running at more or less around 1 per round, which is the equivalent of 2 per round in SV. AND it gives about 3 times as much rank exp than the equivalent amount of stamina in SV!

And it lasts longer than one intense hour and I haven't spent a single stone.

We waited far too fucking long for this. About time, NA.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 25, 2015, 06:37:25 PM
Took 481 days, but I finally have a single row of +297's.

(http://i.imgur.com/jszRnru.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Xtr7lFD.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 25, 2015, 06:57:55 PM
>not +297ing alraune first
>alraune still not +297
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 25, 2015, 07:16:17 PM
>not +297ing alraune first
>alraune still not +297

She's effectively hyper >:(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 25, 2015, 07:39:42 PM
Today was a profitable(?) day.

Since I have zero patience to make a healer/physical team, I brute forced my way through Guan Yinping Legend by stoning it 3 times and managed to clear it with my LMeta team. What killed me so many times was the chibi Zhao Yun :V

Then I spent another 2 stones + 1  rank up worth of stamina on King Carnival so I could immediately get both my Guan Yinping and my Zhao Yun to max level, now all I need to get Awoken Meimei is... Dub-Topalit.

Back to Aether Desert I guess :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 25, 2015, 08:18:32 PM
Dumped all my fire Piis into Goemon because even though Kagu is 'better' he's still generally useless for me vs Goemon who is actually useful since I have a ton of hypermax rodin friends

and then I cleared Legendary Earth Challenge mode in 5 seconds BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 26, 2015, 07:00:26 AM
No skillups from dark ninjas today, but I guess Guan Yinping felt sorry that I was missing out on 3x normals for this and gave me some help.

(http://i.imgur.com/0N0enpKl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/0N0enpK.jpg)

EDIT: also would anyone happen to know when the bowl dragons showed up in coin dungeons, I am suddenly in need of DIzanami skillups again
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 26, 2015, 07:29:56 AM
i'm gonna prepare my body for the new Sengoku Era god pantheon. It's gonna be great.

Which means precedent hopefully to introduce more hasubandos and maybe even people like Oichi
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 26, 2015, 08:31:12 AM
3x normals right now.
Water Cat on Monday.
Kapibara as a "break" from REM collab rush.
A stream at the end of the month.
Challenge Descended 3 on Monday.

...and there's no telling what else is beyond the horizon.

...when did we become JP?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 26, 2015, 08:48:48 AM
TIL the reason why Belial is in Indigo's dungeon is because she summoned him with the book in her art
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Yukarin on July 26, 2015, 09:49:53 AM
Oichi

brb saving every stone i have from now on until this happens in NA

hopefully
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 26, 2015, 10:07:57 AM
i'm gonna prepare my body for the new Sengoku Era god pantheon. It's gonna be great.

Which means precedent hopefully to introduce more hasubandos and maybe even people like Oichi

I'm thinking we got an all male pantheon series because we just got an all female(?) pantheon series angels 2.0
Similar to how we got angels 1.0 (all males? angels ???) after china girls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 26, 2015, 12:11:04 PM
Oh man so CD3 IS coming

Shit we're gonna do this

I'm gonna try to beat all of them including the rushes

idk if my Mei team is ready but I'm gonna try :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 26, 2015, 04:25:58 PM
Yaki-Tori roasted Zeus-Dios. (http://imgur.com/eG8NhIS)

I really like having enough skill boosts to immediately pop Suzaku+Belial for wave 1 Siegfried. (But I went for Suzaku+Chiyome instead okaaay?)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 26, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/D2XuRool.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/D2XuRoo.jpg)

Just one green jewel left for Awoken Meimei, but not a huge priority yet. Right now I have to decide between CD3 or plus eggs. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 26, 2015, 08:47:16 PM
I just did some quick pruning of my Friends list, took away all of my non-motk, non-athena, non-horus friends. I still have another 60 slots in my friends list.

I also managed to get Awoken Meimei today, she's almost maxxed now since I had a blue snow globe dragon saved up.

I'll probably use her for some descended dungeon or other once DC3 starts, so I wanna know who else already has Awoken Meimei?

(Also rdj or other person with power pls change my secondary leader to Athena I don't even use gzl anymore rofl)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 27, 2015, 12:20:15 AM
I'm running Awoken Mei as a secondary main now. I should have her skillmaxed as soon as CD3 drops.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 27, 2015, 12:25:20 AM
done day 1 but i have not been on top of her woodpy or exp needs

will likely run down the road or have available
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 27, 2015, 02:24:03 AM
Aaaah too much going on I don't know what to do. Verdandi should be hypermax today, or early tomorrow if I get unlucky. After I finish her I might move on to the challenge dungeons, but I also kind of want to hypermax Beyzul. Well shit. I guess between the free stones from the event and the reset jewel dragons I have the stones to burn if I want to, but I'm not suuuuure. Indecision!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 27, 2015, 03:12:05 AM
Aaaah too much going on I don't know what to do. Verdandi should be hypermax today, or early tomorrow if I get unlucky. After I finish her I might move on to the challenge dungeons, but I also kind of want to hypermax Beyzul. Well shit. I guess between the free stones from the event and the reset jewel dragons I have the stones to burn if I want to, but I'm not suuuuure. Indecision!

3x Normals will come back.

Your stones... will not.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 27, 2015, 03:28:13 AM
Can one of you put up Awoken Meimei right now? I want to try her out on Zhao Yun mythical.

(Also I discovered that the flampys tomorrow are on the devil rush and Sandalphon. Which means I'm getting at best one red py out of CD3... Who here has a hypermaxxed lkali?)

@Edit: Oh hell, I just discovered I didn't have matsy added rofl.

Sent you an invite.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Yukarin on July 27, 2015, 05:25:40 AM
Can one of you put up Awoken Meimei right now? I want to try her out on Zhao Yun mythical.

(Also I discovered that the flampys tomorrow are on the devil rush and Sandalphon. Which means I'm getting at best one red py out of CD3... Who here has a hypermaxxed lkali?)

@Edit: Oh hell, I just discovered I didn't have matsy added rofl.

Sent you an invite.

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 27, 2015, 09:47:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/8bsU2xI.png)

Just gotta do LV10!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 27, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
3x Normals will come back.

Your stones... will not.

Sure they will. Every time my stones go away they always come back eventually. And even when boosted normals come back, if I don't grind them for all they're worth now I'll still have missed out on what could have been.

Although I used to say that every time I pull a vampire from the REM it just pushes me a little further toward just dumping all of my stones on +eggs all of the time, but with nearly all of the complety unforgivable chaff being stricken from the REM that's growing less true.

Verdandi still not hypermax yet, by the way. Just need three more +hp eggs, but I'm up to 16 in a row with no hp at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 27, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
Bastet AND Parvati max skilled in the same day.

I am pretty okay with this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 27, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Time for some much needed revenge.
(http://i.imgur.com/9Vu7WAH.jpg)

Look at that recovery!

(http://i.imgur.com/X18g06x.jpg)

Mei all dei

Also! I tried Devil Rush with my Meimei team. I died on Satan, but everything was working well otherwise! I just need more light punching power, I think. Dropping Liu Bei for LKali might work.

Also also! The REM carnival gave me the blue fruit I needed.

(http://i.imgur.com/M1yqwOn.jpg)

Today is going okay.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 27, 2015, 06:59:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/2EmMIHIl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/2EmMIHI.jpg)

Kotodama strikes again.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 27, 2015, 07:54:53 PM
Cleared Noah with zero problems, died to leviathan on Hera-beorc (Awoken Meimei) cause I got skill locked (80% ain't enough, apparently) and failed to kill Raphael on Sandalphon by like 1 HP (Awoken Horus + Lkali team) cause dark resist is stronk.

Still, considering how far I got with little to no problems, I should be able to take on both!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 27, 2015, 10:45:04 PM
At last... my work is finished.


I HAVE GROWN A FLOWER THAT CAN KILL EVEN GOD!!!


(http://i.imgur.com/z8jW9RU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/dt9XjR8.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Zmtd4j5.png) (http://i.imgur.com/PJOoxit.png)

why do people say no awakenings is hard again?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 27, 2015, 11:29:41 PM
I hate you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 27, 2015, 11:38:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/8yU30s7l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/8yU30s7.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/x72sO0bl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/x72sO0b.jpg)

yoroshiku
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 12:36:32 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/PFk4Ohk.png)

Did somebody order a hypermax Verdandi?

Oh right, it was me. I ordered that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Yukarin on July 28, 2015, 02:04:56 AM
And I finally destroy Arboreal Queen.

Awoken Bastet I love you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 28, 2015, 02:17:01 AM
beelze, noah, beorc, zhao yun down to awoken shiva's might

to think, my teams kinda shit too (no kagu) I uh...might actually be sold on long-term a. shiva ;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 02:33:42 AM
Zhao Yun remains the hardest descend in the game in my opinion. Just barely died to him with Verd, and I've improved that team considerably since I beat him the first time. There are just so many fucking things that can go wrong, and the stacking debuffs upon stacking debuffs are killer.

beelze, noah, beorc, zhao yun down to awoken shiva's might

to think, my teams kinda shit too (no kagu) I uh...might actually be sold on long-term a. shiva ;;

What's your team? My roommate mains Shiva and he hasn't figured his out yet, but he does have Femme and Kagu. Apparently he didn't think ahead to grab a Theurgia and thinks he might be too much of a scurb to beat it on mythical with no continues so he doesn't actually have Awoken yet, but he's planning on it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 28, 2015, 02:44:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/NzquXWcl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/NzquXWc.jpg)

WATCH ME SCO--

(http://i.imgur.com/GElibBYl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GElibBY.jpg)

ow ow ow okay I'm sorry for kicking you in the face Medjedra
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 28, 2015, 03:18:34 AM
I noticed there was a carnival going on that gave me a slim chance to get Femme

So I yolorolled and got Hatsume, which turns out to be fucking amazing for my Future Awoken Lakshmi team rofl.

Especially when you consider that it's row team with nothing but water as an attribute. It's hilarious.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 28, 2015, 03:25:30 AM
I noticed there was a carnival going on that gave me a slim chance to get Femme

So I yolorolled and got Hatsume, which turns out to be fucking amazing for my Future Awoken Lakshmi team rofl.

Especially when you consider that it's row team with nothing but water as an attribute. It's hilarious.
Give.  Give Hatsumeeeee.  Only ninja I don't have and perhaps the most useful to me since my monoblue could SERIOUSLY use a fast offensive orb changer.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 28, 2015, 03:26:42 AM
oh my god there is no dungeon more biased against water than dialgolos

fucking water absorb 10 turns FOLLOWED BY Generate FOLLOWED BY GAIA BRACKYS WHICH IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HITS HARD HOLY FUCK OF COURSE


no but seriously I tried a new strat of using wood rider to pass stage 2 at the cost of HP ONLY TO FACE BRACHYS FUCK YOUUUU
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 03:40:26 AM
oh my god there is no dungeon more biased against water than dialgolos

fucking water absorb 10 turns FOLLOWED BY Generate FOLLOWED BY GAIA BRACKYS WHICH IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HITS HARD HOLY FUCK OF COURSE


no but seriously I tried a new strat of using wood rider to pass stage 2 at the cost of HP ONLY TO FACE BRACHYS FUCK YOUUUU

I know I've asked you this before regarding this dungeon, so sorry if this is redundant, but have you tried a Gabriel friend? He lets you tank almost anything in the dungeon (and anything you can't tank should be easily avoidable by other means) and laughs at shield knights.
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Post by: Suikama on July 28, 2015, 03:56:24 AM
I think I'm just gonna try Isis Rainbow. I have Hino to take care of wood types and I can actually stall floor one

oh yeah also as a final fuck you of course brachys spawned with only 2 turns
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Post by: Thaws on July 28, 2015, 04:04:16 AM
https://youtu.be/A7WyPAErKy0

^Lv10 No-stone clear on first try holy shit

That was lucky as heck.
Also shows that you should never give up :V One of Shiva's 3 attacks would one-shot me and I had to stall 2 turns. He didn't use that attack.
But the 2nd attack was a board blind so I had to spend like 15 mins poking at orbs on a Liu Bei Board trying to plan a route and you can see the result from the vid.
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Post by: trancehime on July 28, 2015, 06:33:06 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/pknv4WO.png)

i've also done Lv10, but I used 2 stones on A.Shiva because he didn't perform any of his non-lethal attacks on me as I tried to stall out the Skill Delay.

EDIT: I definitely could have 0-stoned it if I had Awoken Anubis. Probably.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 28, 2015, 08:18:31 AM
Just cleared Sandalphon for the first time with Awoken Meimei + Verdandi. It was surprisingly close too - I rolled Uriel on floor 3 and althoug he did keep giving me hearts this team's RCV isn't anything impressive and since Uriel is fire I couldn't count on my defenses. It was super close though because he decided to bind GZL twice in a row which meant that I couldn't activate. I brought him below 50% and he started spamming his "turns hearts away" attack which literally put me at 216 HP once GZL was out of the bind.

After that though, it was smooth sailing, Raphael went down super easily, and although Sandalphon did end up turning my dark orbs away a lot, it was fine - there was a point where I dropped below 9k health though, so a Sword of Malkuth would've killed me, alas, between Liu Bei's heal (yes I used his active exclusively for the Heal :V) and a Verdandi board which gave me a whopping 15 heart orbs, I got out okay.

This team is super fun to use too, easy enough activation and a whole lot more damage than it has any right to, rofl.

(I just wish I had Kaede to put in the place of Leeza, then this team would be perfect.)

So now I need to get around to beating Beelzebub (super easy with Athena) and Hera-Beorc (should be doable with Awoken Meimei) then I'll already consider this Descended Challenge 100% profit.
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Post by: trancehime on July 28, 2015, 08:19:52 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/625937839054696449 god/attacker apollo
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/625938411862405120 god/attacker okuninushi
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 28, 2015, 10:17:41 AM
Good lord Apollo's hp took a major hit :(
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Post by: trancehime on July 28, 2015, 10:26:14 AM
-800 HP and -30 RCV in exchange for +370 (+100 from the awakening for a total of +470) ATK compared to the other ult is a tough sell, but I feel like the 2 TPAs and 2 rows could be worth it.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 28, 2015, 11:33:53 AM
For sure. I mean, I'm still gonna go for it because I can make a hella light row team with him and he's even better with Athena now (not that I run her as a lead anymore but still), but that HP just hurts, dang.

At least he has a +HP awakening to reduce the sting a little. That's not counted in his base stats there, yeah?
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Post by: trancehime on July 28, 2015, 12:05:06 PM
At least he has a +HP awakening to reduce the sting a little. That's not counted in his base stats there, yeah?

Not counted, no.
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 12:33:06 PM
I just use Apollo to farm with Athena right now, so yeah, I'm pretty happy with that. And Athena doesn't even care about his rows. Pretty cool.
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Post by: trancehime on July 28, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
I just use Apollo to farm with Athena right now, so yeah, I'm pretty happy with that. And Athena doesn't even care about his rows. Pretty cool.

L/G Super Kirin + L/B Apollo + LKali = tri-core prong Kirin team GOGOGOGOGGOGOGO
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 12:44:54 PM
Now that I think about it, his type isn't as much of a non-sequitur as I was expecting. I still don't think a Thor team is real, but it's at least a lit closer now than it was.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 28, 2015, 01:21:09 PM
I'm thinking more along the lines of:

AVenus/Apollo/TAMADRApurin/Thor/LMeta or LKali or Apocalypse or Valkyrie etc

myself. Lots and lots of rows and damage boosts with a flex slot.
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 01:48:13 PM
Zhao Yun is horseshit. I seriously can't beat him. I could have cleared almso every other normal descend in the challenge with the stamina I've thrown at not beating him. Decided to bring Perseus on my Verdandi team for 100% lock resist, but three times in a row Divengon just picked either Perseus or GZL to lock down for 6-8 turns, I was forced to kill it to avoid dying, and I got skillbound with 60-80% resist remaining. Three times in a row. Two of those times I still got to the boss, but he picked exactly the right skills to kill me in the given situation. Fuck this dungeon. Next time I'm just bringing Ra, but I bet I still get skillbound through my 80% resist.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on July 28, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
Who all had me added also has Awoken Ceres? Gonna need at least one up in about two hours of this post.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 28, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
I have her. Will put up in Parvati's place for now.

Edit: She's up.

Edit 2: Zhao Yun and Medje taken down so far today. Will do Sandalphon next I think. Sorceress should be okay, and I worry about Vulcan but I've beaten him before and I can hopefully do it again. Then Wadatsumi and all of the non-py challenges. Then maybe try the rushes again, but I still worry about those. Really I just want to farm Athena and Zhao Yun for Athena and GZL skillups...
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Post by: triangles on July 28, 2015, 03:31:06 PM
I put my A. Ceres up as well just now.
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Post by: Jq1790 on July 28, 2015, 03:49:46 PM
Hahaha Zhao Yun, yes.  I will probably fight him again only when my RSonia team is fully online.  Guy's stage is a jerk.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on July 28, 2015, 04:02:22 PM
Zhao Yun 99.9% consistent 0s clear (thanks Matsy)

(http://i.imgur.com/0bds576.png)
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 04:07:04 PM
Yeah, I was just thinking about how Gabe+Neptune probably beats him extremely consistently, but it would take a thousand hours. Verdandi+Ceres is probably much better, if maybe slightly less consistent.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on July 28, 2015, 04:17:10 PM
Yeah, I was just thinking about how Gabe+Neptune probably beats him extremely consistently, but it would take a thousand hours. Verdandi+Ceres is probably much better, if maybe slightly less consistent.

Bring a short cd wood orb changer just in case the opening board treats you badly. Verdandi also has the advantage of a built-in skillbind res so you can try to stack that too to make GZL a joke.
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Post by: Chaore on July 28, 2015, 05:01:05 PM
i have sorceress and wada left for the py descendeds i think

might have to try udr this time around, get maximum shiver
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 05:07:37 PM
Bring a short cd wood orb changer just in case the opening board treats you badly. Verdandi also has the advantage of a built-in skillbind res so you can try to stack that too to make GZL a joke.

Yup, I'll bring Cu Chu. Although I'm not certain the first floor would kill me, since my HP is still pretty decent with only one Verdandi and I would only take half damage from the ogre.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 28, 2015, 06:06:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/pAvePAY.jpg)

ty angles

(I killed the 10 turn bind in 1 turn, AParv x ACeres OTP 5ever)
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 06:09:11 PM
Ha ha I just realized all of my Eva REM stuff has Machine. Come oooooon Machine stuff! I was looking at Mari again, and she's just barely under the usability threshhold. Maybe some big Machine support could push a few of them over the edge.
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 06:34:22 PM
Fuck Zhao Yun. Fuck this. Just got skill locked at 80% AGAIN. That's three times in a row.

FUCK.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 28, 2015, 08:21:14 PM
Medjedra, precious sweetheart.

Are you REALLY sure you want a dog as my leader? (http://imgur.com/54qt9Ky)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 28, 2015, 09:07:47 PM
edibl y u do
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Post by: Edible on July 28, 2015, 09:10:11 PM
I don't know wht you're talkng abot
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 28, 2015, 09:23:44 PM
the war dity of the NIIIIIIGH

(http://i.imgur.com/gHN3I2Fl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/gHN3I2F.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/HOeJsS4l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/HOeJsS4.jpg)

now with more "hey maybe I should try mixed strats here" moments
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Post by: Edible on July 28, 2015, 09:32:06 PM
Ronia/Minerva annihilates Sandalphon so thoroughly, it's almost comical.
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Post by: triangles on July 28, 2015, 10:18:30 PM
Edibl wat pls
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Post by: Suikama on July 28, 2015, 11:17:56 PM
herpa derp derpible
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Post by: commandercool on July 28, 2015, 11:53:06 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/L7Bvvan.png)

Zhao Yun beat me up so I had to go get big bro Ra to make him stop.

To put this into perspective, this is a dungeon I've beaten before. It wasn't easy, but I've cleared it on mythical twice in the past.

The instance in this challenge dungeon took me more tries than God Rush, Hera Rush, or Devil Rush. Hell, it probably took me more stamina than any of those dungeons.

Zhao Yun hardest dungeon. Hardest one. This is what I need that Urd team for apparently, to have a red team to cave in this smug joker if I ever have to fight him again.

 :(
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 29, 2015, 12:14:42 AM
I just can't stand his hair cut. :c
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Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2015, 12:27:30 AM
He looks like a snobby rival from a mecha anime.

I guess that makes him my rival, doesn't it? I showed him!

Eventually.

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Post by: Suikama on July 29, 2015, 04:31:00 AM
I beat Zhao Yun first try

STILL CANT BEAT DIALGOLOS


to be fair Zhao is still super hard with his stupid 6 combo shield + low HP OHKO + OF COURSE HE'S WOOD TYPE

but Dia is still way worse because I can't get past floor 2 without gutting my team with shitty gimmicks...
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Post by: trancehime on July 29, 2015, 04:35:23 AM
I beat Zhao Yun first try

STILL CANT BEAT DIALGOLOS


to be fair Zhao is still super hard with his stupid 6 combo shield + low HP OHKO + OF COURSE HE'S WOOD TYPE

but Dia is still way worse because I can't get past floor 2 without gutting my team with shitty gimmicks...

have you thought about investing in a not-water team?

i heard that helps against dungeons which specifically fuck over a given color

seriously you talk about this a lot like it's a massive problem?
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 29, 2015, 04:42:50 AM
but Dia is still way worse because I can't get past floor 2 without gutting my team with shitty gimmicks...

(http://i.imgur.com/UgKljpp.png) (http://i.imgur.com/GjhEdUj.png) (http://i.imgur.com/0BfEAs6.png)

Pick one.

Or just try with not-Isis.
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Post by: Yukarin on July 29, 2015, 05:06:30 AM
completely unrelated but

all you guys' usernames are missing a letter

"Suikaa", "tanceHiME", "commanderool"

rofl
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Post by: Aoshi-shi on July 29, 2015, 05:26:41 AM
Tried Kaguya-hime for the first time. I stupidly died twice at Ammy due to a skyfall pushing her past 40% and then failed to combo properly.  :V

Legend seems feasible as long as I stock up on some light orbs before the Tsuku Tama floor.
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Post by: Thaws on July 29, 2015, 05:27:08 AM
completely unrelated but

all you guys' usernames are missing a letter

"Suikaa", "tanceHiME", "commanderool"

rofl
Ahahahaha you gu....oh

Also I made use of half price coin dungeons to clear all the rushes for stone and the S-rank tama today. Except yamato rush of course, screw that i'm not bothering with it.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 29, 2015, 05:39:01 AM
completely unrelated but

all you guys' usernames are missing a letter

"Suikaa", "tanceHiME", "commanderool"

rofl

edibl y u do



also this just in but seriously stop trying to beat diagoldos with a water based team

like for real the whole point of the shieldra being there is to fuck them over

the game is literally saying 'dude use something else'
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 29, 2015, 07:50:34 AM
So the change to Morning Star damage required me to reexamine my math for Zeus Vulcan (assuming I make it past wave 1, which luckily I did because unsynced cyclops/minotaur).

Not only was Hera-Ur still beatable, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SBkrJbQoDk) but it made it possible to just drop everything on Vulcan and kill him in one turn.

(http://i.imgur.com/qW3CwQkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/qW3CwQk.jpg)

~video game~
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Post by: Dorakyura on July 29, 2015, 07:57:38 AM
I am so stupid, why am I so stupid? Can anyone tell me?
I died to Isis again and I just rememberedPandora has bind clear, after I died.
Why didn't I make a heart row to clear the bind on Nephthys?

 :qq:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on July 29, 2015, 08:03:37 AM
re: diagoldos with water team

(http://i.imgur.com/ZjcyUmP.png) (http://i.imgur.com/dsyIQ1O.png)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 29, 2015, 10:43:42 AM
That uh

also works

Edit: maybe I'm misunderstanding the rock paper scissors elements here but uh

(http://i.imgur.com/3ynX3Lr.jpg)

Wood beats fire, right?
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Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2015, 12:33:27 PM
Yeah, you can totally beat Diagoldos with a water team. Just not easily with a water spike team without a specific mechanism for handling that one floor.

I'm getting down there on challenges. Hopefully today I can clear all of the non-rush ones. Then if all goes well I can clear Devil Rush tomorrow, then decide if I even want to try Dragon Rush.

There are still a lot of Gabriel variants I haven't tried on it yet and I'm sure a few of them have the potential to clear it, maybe with a little luck. But I'm not sure experimenting is wise right now, especially after all the time I wasted.
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Post by: Suikama on July 29, 2015, 02:00:48 PM
Also I could have beaten Dialgolos first try and multiple times after but BRACHYS HAS SPAWNED EVERY SINGLE TIME

Anyways I'm just gonna clear this last because the pitiful reward is far not worth the stamina I've already thrown
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Post by: OverlordChirei on July 29, 2015, 02:27:53 PM
Also I could have beaten Dialgolos first try and multiple times after but BRACHYS HAS SPAWNED EVERY SINGLE TIME

Anyways I'm just gonna clear this last because the pitiful reward is far not worth the stamina I've already thrown

The one run I did actually had Brachys as the spawn :V

I just facetanked him though.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on July 29, 2015, 03:05:51 PM
Why am I suddenly a cow?  I can't find a related thread.  Moo!?
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 29, 2015, 03:30:05 PM
You parfit just the way u r
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on July 29, 2015, 03:33:26 PM
The one run I did actually had Brachys as the spawn :V

I just facetanked him though.

Yeah, Brachys gets really annoying, I can't tank him either. I'm skipping out on Diagoldos and Noah. I don't plan on killing rushes, so I'm not getting the stone anyway. stamina used to cear them, I'd rather use getting plus eggs.

Zhao Yun seems realy annoying. I can't see any of my teams having an easy time with him.
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Post by: Chaore on July 29, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
skyfalls. please give me some hearts when I need to tank meph's dumb face.

....and also, please don't knock stan into blue when I'm trying to get a better board...
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Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2015, 03:51:00 PM
Yeah, Brachys gets really annoying, I can't tank him either. I'm skipping out on Diagoldos and Noah. I don't plan on killing rushes, so I'm not getting the stone anyway. stamina used to cear them, I'd rather use getting plus eggs.

Zhao Yun seems realy annoying. I can't see any of my teams having an easy time with him.

(Do Noah, she drops nine +eggs. Doesn't she? I thought she did.)

(Agreed on Diagoldos though, fuck that.)

(And yes, Zhao Yun is awful. If, you know, my opinion on that wasn't clear.😑)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 29, 2015, 03:54:31 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/GHf82iF.jpg)

UmiYama: We absorb wood for 10 turns!
Siren: I bind wood for a few turns!
Wada: I change away wood!

>11/12 wood team
>Fuck your bullshit. Gimme that py.
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Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2015, 05:34:13 PM
Guys I think my brain is broken. I just stumbled into Wadatsumi with my Ra team accidentally, then I decided I was going to do Devil Rush right now for some reason and just completely forgot what is puzzles and how to dragons and died in a way I don't even understand where I did a seven combo with all of my colors on Kraken, after an active, and somehow didn't even scratch it. Pretty sure Sun Quan wasn't bound. I think? I should just back off of PAD until my stamina bar completely refills, I suck this week.
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Post by: Chaore on July 29, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0DHAc4LhSS4/VbkebzviwZI/AAAAAAAACEQ/7pn--SJZUgA/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gkP1bf6LHAc/VbkeYefICMI/AAAAAAAACDs/rally-c_9rg/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

i think a. shiva might actually be p.good guys

edit: (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w1Hd3rVSVe8/VbkfdTYxeFI/AAAAAAAACE4/snKq7w8A_uQ/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

also asterik on shiva hype (yuna lost in the end, rip)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 29, 2015, 09:26:38 PM
Maximum Danger Godfest incoming.

Indian 2 and China girls day 1
Heroes and Greek 2 on day 2

I really want Vishnu but also Takeru and Wukong and none of the other two aaaaaaaaa :ohdear:
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Post by: Suikama on July 29, 2015, 10:46:39 PM
Chinese & Greek 2 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Post by: commandercool on July 29, 2015, 11:14:52 PM
Think I just discovered a surefire-ish way to beat Dragon Rush with Gabe. More info if I get around to trying it and it pans out. I'll just say that it involves a friend lead I never realized works with my team.

Although I might not get around to testing it because I might need to devote stamina to jewel dragons for stones because...

Heroes and Greek 2 on day 2

I
am
in.

Andro. Come on. Andro.
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Post by: Jq1790 on July 30, 2015, 12:29:31 AM
This was way too long in coming.  I might have overdone it a little bit.

Still though...

(http://i.imgur.com/VKvDUI3.jpg)

Get bent, Valk.

(http://i.imgur.com/6qCZPM6.jpg)

About time I got this stone, innit?
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Post by: Chaore on July 30, 2015, 12:47:56 AM
gonna yolo on day 2

already commited sins this month so

edit: <Chirei|uni> now go beat dragon rush

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BrTYTH4LBWM/Vbl9HweXkZI/AAAAAAAACOc/iADSIMnBYfI/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1) (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W-fkj03iMPw/Vbl9KICMheI/AAAAAAAACOo/Gxx0pAwekKk/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

i'm still of the opinion tdr is the easiest rush by far

the fact this was my second try, and i could've easily won on my first if I realized urd was up kinda only reinforces that opinion tbh
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Post by: Thaws on July 30, 2015, 02:03:06 AM


i'm still of the opinion tdr is the easiest rush by far

the fact this was my second try, and i could've easily won on my first if I realized urd was up kinda only reinforces that opinion tbh

Personal list:
Yamato > Devil > Hera > God > Dragon

Yamato is still bs because of a. kagu followed by goemon. Devil can't really screw me up anymore but I had bad memories of it and poison drop rate up is stupid. Hera is just hard in general. God doesn't have much threats but there's dios so it forces your to build your team to counter him unless you stack +hp eggs :)) Dragon mainly is easy because the first few floors let you stall for skills so easily.

also of course shiva is op haore pls
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Post by: Suikama on July 30, 2015, 02:43:44 AM
dammit i died on goddamn floor 2 of wada

i cant combo without time extends anymore im ruined
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Post by: commandercool on July 30, 2015, 02:46:07 AM
Alright, no more horsing around. I'm kind of sick right now, and my brain is too melty to be trying hard stuff. I'm calling it here, there will be no devil rush and no dragon rush, I can't waste any more stamina when +eggs are afoot.

I'll take down Wadatsumi later when I feel a little better, but I hereby forbid myself from trying the rushes any more except maybe Monday. I just died to the dumbest mistake ever on dragon rush and it's a shame to waste that much stamina. But unless I start feeling much better very soon I concede the rest of the descend rush. Still a pretty good haul regardless.
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Post by: Chaore on July 30, 2015, 02:50:58 AM
also of course shiva is op haore pls

honestly it says a scary amount that i'm not even using nearly what is considered 'optimal red tpa subs'

a large portion of my success is definitely having hypermax shiva, a fairly swole yamato, and a worked on kiriko though
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 30, 2015, 02:56:49 AM
dammit guys

where's my awoken leader huh

wherrreeeeee ;_______;;;;;;;;;;;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2015, 05:51:42 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/626621430008950784

Neptune Dragon.

AS is a poison that does more damage than Rodin/A.Neptune active + 2 turn haste.

Has 3 water rows, 2 dark rows.

LS is cheap-ass Hero LS with x1.5 RCV bonus to Gods.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 30, 2015, 06:21:18 AM
so should we start a guessing game to see whose dragon is going to be in the green/light/dark slots?

yomi dragon for dark slot confirmed
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Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2015, 06:28:23 AM
yomi dragon for dark slot confirmed

vritra dragon dragon and indra dragon dragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 30, 2015, 07:59:17 AM
vritra dragon dragon and indra dragon dragon. waifu form or husbando maybe i guess

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Yukarin on July 30, 2015, 08:46:59 AM
took two of my stamina bars to beat Zhao Yun.

Goddamn
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2015, 09:55:05 AM
YamaP or some drunk guy decided to change one of Neptune Dragon's Dark rows to a Water row.

I guess we 4 row boys?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 30, 2015, 11:49:18 AM
YamaP or some drunk guy decided to change one of Neptune Dragon's Dark rows to a Water row.

I guess we 4 row boys?
Welp.  Water has a quadrow amd wood still doesnt even have a trirow.  Rude.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2015, 12:03:33 PM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150730_droph_carnival.html

Orb Changer PEM Carnival.

Note. You can get evolved fairies from this PEM carnival.

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 30, 2015, 12:12:53 PM
http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150730_droph_carnival.html

Orb Changer PEM Carnival.

Note. You can get evolved fairies from this PEM carnival.

that sounds awesome.
Do you also get the unevolved stuff, that don't have the ability yet?
If that is so, I hate it already :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2015, 12:16:32 PM
that sounds awesome.
Do you also get the unevolved stuff, that don't have the ability yet?
If that is so, I hate it already :3

Nope, you don't get the monster which doesn't have the ability yet!!!!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 30, 2015, 12:20:57 PM
why did I read this like "which doesn't have the ability, yet" :V
but that sounds like something I want to spend all my palpoints on. Though I used 20000 points on evo mats in the current event. (got 8 Orbs, only one golden keeper ^^)

Do I get this right, that it will just add these to the normal pem machine? So you still can get shit? (including unevolved skillup stuff, like fairys, which already drop in pem machine)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on July 30, 2015, 01:15:09 PM
Do I get this right, that it will just add these to the normal pem machine? So you still canget shit? (including unevolved skillup stuff, like fairys, which already drop in pem machine)

No, you will only get those monsters.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 30, 2015, 01:28:22 PM
Neptune Father Dagon's art is amazing. Best art in game? Certainly a contender up there with ultimate Kali and white Sonia.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 30, 2015, 03:11:09 PM
No, you will only get those monsters.

for 200 Palpoints?  :derp:
I thought this is like the Evo Mat Carnival, where you can also get the normal drops but you have a chance to get evo mats.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 30, 2015, 03:39:02 PM
This sounds to be more like the Evo Mat Machine we have up now; higher cost, but weeds out the chaff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 30, 2015, 04:53:53 PM
Ult Krishna, Sarasvati, and ult light/dark golems are in NA now. More reason to pull on day 1!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 30, 2015, 06:07:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MUNkXByl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/MUNkXBy.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/b3ezsVTl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/b3ezsVT.jpg)

? ? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on July 30, 2015, 06:11:48 PM
YamaP or some drunk guy decided to change one of Neptune Dragon's Dark rows to a Water row.

I guess we 4 row boys?

Sorry for saying neptune dragon is not broken enough and was convinced this was not meant to be broken dragon series but I guess they had to make it broken to be worth the 300k MP. WELP
bi color row team is stupid anyways :v
At least it's not shiva dora tier :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 30, 2015, 06:13:36 PM
Finally finished with the descended challenge bullshit, with Hera-Beorc and Beelzebub down, Awoken Meimei is officially max skilled.

Now to finish the lowbie dungeons and get to +egg farming I guess, I just don't really know what to dump them on rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 30, 2015, 06:18:33 PM
YamaP or some drunk guy decided to change one of Neptune Dragon's Dark rows to a Water row.

I guess we 4 row boys?

well

...

he probably still wanted a skill boost more tbh :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 30, 2015, 06:57:22 PM
Someone got the actual JP data for Neptune Dragon. It's wording says it inflicts super critical poison on the enemy. This isn't a joke. it does 100x poison damage - which means a +99 ATK Neptune Dragon will do 194,800 poison damage per turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on July 30, 2015, 07:11:09 PM
Someone got the actual JP data for Neptune Dragon. It's wording says it inflicts super critical poison on the enemy. This isn't a joke. it does 100x poison damage - which means a +99 ATK Neptune Dragon will do 194,800 poison damage per turn.

still can't kill awoken meimei :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 30, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
Spec Neptune-dora with +ATK latent awakenings. Deal 202,000 damage per turn.

See if Sopdet absorbs it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 30, 2015, 07:17:28 PM
still can't kill awoken meimei :V

She doesn't have a status shield, so yes it can. You only have to survive one turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 30, 2015, 07:18:28 PM
still can't kill awoken meimei :V

Kills her in two turns, actually. GG.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on July 30, 2015, 11:13:39 PM
omg sara/krish ults....

THAT MEANS ISIS IS NEEEXXTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 31, 2015, 12:06:22 AM
There, that's 30 stones all set to go.

Time for the salt in T-minus 7 hours.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 31, 2015, 03:43:52 AM
Ahahahaha suck on that, Zhao Yun. (http://imgur.com/6Kf5FNR)

I'm pretty sure I didn't actually need a Purin enhance to down Zhao Yun, since he'd be down to less than 3 million after gravities? But of course massive HP and +297 statsticks save the day anyways.

Light Doge Liang having +216 is showing his power, what with only two light TPAs doing nearly two million.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on July 31, 2015, 05:17:46 AM
Ahahahaha suck on that, Zhao Yun. (http://imgur.com/6Kf5FNR)

I'm pretty sure I didn't actually need a Purin enhance to down Zhao Yun, since he'd be down to less than 3 million after gravities? But of course massive HP and +297 statsticks save the day anyways.

Light Doge Liang having +216 is showing his power, what with only two light TPAs doing nearly two million.

Heh, I cleared him with Sakuya too. My damage didn't look as cool though :( It was actually pretty close, he'd have killed me had I not killed him that turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 31, 2015, 06:19:31 AM
I'm pretty hype for uvo^2 Sakuya at this point. Yea, LZL is carrying most of the damage and I'll probably want to replace #OneTrueDog with Izanagi except for when there isn't a threat of skillbinds, but I like the set up and look forward to +'ing Sakuya after LZL.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 31, 2015, 08:04:43 AM
Six rolls, six golds. Only two dupes.
(http://i.imgur.com/Q5RNBwh.jpg)

1. Freyja (dupe). I promise I'll skill you up if flower dragon dungeons become permanent.
2. Marine Rider (dupe). For as much as I run wood attackers, you'd think I'd have a use for these dudes. I do not.
3. Karin! She's the only Chinagirl I was missing. Not sure if I want her awoken ult or her b/g ult, though...
4. Claymore. I dunno why people hate these so much? Their stats and awakenings are solid, and they have a 3-turn attacker boost. The color change is weird but it gives an excuse to clear out junk orbs. I think I could make use of her.
5. GGY. I had always made a note how I never got stuck with this dude before and now I have one too. Though he's really not too bad. Great HP, a fast wood maker and a hard counter to Beelzebub? I'm okay with this.
6. Osiris. Never really understood the draw to this guy. Then I watched him clear XEC. Since I already have solid wood subs, I can approve of him.

Overall, a really good haul even though I'm really disappointed in not pulling a single Indian 2. I was really hoping for Vishnu! But there is definitely potential here.

And I didn't buy a single one of these, so that makes this even sweeter. Oh, and both Osiris and Claymore can be skilled up from wood cat dungeon too. So that's neat!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 31, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
This sounds to be more like the Evo Mat Machine we have up now; higher cost, but weeds out the chaff.

※消費友情ポイント:1回200ポイント

 :derp:

Osiris. Never really understood the draw to this guy. Then I watched him clear XEC. Since I already have solid wood subs, I can approve of him.

just wait for him getting ult, he will get another tpa and will destroy everything. Especially when you max skilled him (4 turns is insane)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on July 31, 2015, 12:02:29 PM
Yoloroll -> Rei Sirius

Well shit, I'll take it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on July 31, 2015, 12:33:04 PM
Yoloroll -> Rei Sirius

Well shit, I'll take it.

You can still sell him if you don't want him :), till then, he is one slot in the box :V

I want to get home, and roll  :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 31, 2015, 01:38:52 PM
Fenrir knight. The saddest part is sinceI never raised my first one much the new one was actually a higher level despite only being lv 20.

OTL

Oh well.  Maybe next fest will give me something.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 31, 2015, 04:29:31 PM
Aamir tonight! Does everyone have a carbuncle harem ready for him?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on July 31, 2015, 04:43:36 PM
Don't tempt me. :V

I have a Luci team ready to slot him into, though, and with that God Rush will suddenly become doable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on July 31, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
jp gave me double dragon knights.

....including the one I'd actually like on NA ;; (more fire bind clears when)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 31, 2015, 05:03:32 PM
Ah ha ha I just looked at Aamir's dungeon. Funny stuff. Looks pretty easy too. I wasn't going to take the time off from +egg farming, but fuck it. He'll give me 54 stones for tomorrow, so I can probably scrounge up another one for one more pull if I feel like I have to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 31, 2015, 05:32:16 PM
I hope Aamir is as easy as he looks. All I need is one more stone for one more pull! :o
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on July 31, 2015, 06:56:52 PM
I only had the five so I have no chance of getting five more by tomorrow, and every single tine Ive tried scrounging has been disappointing so I won't evenbother.  Wanna try Aamir, but prob not this time since I want my plus eggs.  Gotta 297 my blue dragon girl.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on July 31, 2015, 07:34:23 PM
Has anyone else been getting "Unfortunately PAD has stopped working" messages A LOT lately? I've bee  getting booted out of dungeons two or three times a day at least lately. I haven't lost any progress to it actually which is great, it always re-opens to exactly the same spot, but it always scares the shit out of me.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on July 31, 2015, 07:40:57 PM
Has anyone else been getting "Unfortunately PAD has stopped working" messages A LOT lately? I've bee  getting booted out of dungeons two or three times a day at least lately. I haven't lost any progress to it actually which is great, it always re-opens to exactly the same spot, but it always scares the shit out of me.

I've been getting it a lot, as well as also feeling that PAD now takes longer to start up then normal. Android problems maybe?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on July 31, 2015, 08:29:31 PM
PAD has taken forever to load up for me ever since the sound lag "fix". But yeah I have noticed it crashing a lot lately. Typically when transitioning between apps.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on July 31, 2015, 08:45:43 PM
I... haven't noticed a delay actually.

So I went to buy a roll but then I realized that I deleted my card info off my account just so that this wouldn't happen.

Thank gods.

I did get a duplicate Sakuya, which probably the least useful of the China girls to have a duplicate of.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 01, 2015, 12:21:18 AM
Alright True Dragon is going super well, all I need is for-

>Fat fuck spawns

that not to happen


I could use Neptune i melt him but I'm sure as soon as I make the sacrifice he won't ever spawn again


also goddammit matsy

where my karin ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 01, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
I could use Neptune i melt him but I'm sure as soon as I make the sacrifice he won't ever spawn again
YEP


and then Zaerog survived with 1 hp

HMMM IF ONLY I HAD MORE ROWS

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


whatever pulls i guess
1. Durga, well okay I guess
2. Bvalk, uhhh lol what well I guess I can feed off Seigfried now
3.... DKALI WHAT
4. Meimei 2...

i dunno this game is wack

i guess i can build optimal SoniaG if we ever get Baggi lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 01, 2015, 01:15:05 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/YMpkgsvl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/YMpkgsv.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ke6Csf9l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ke6Csf9.jpg)

 8)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 01, 2015, 01:21:06 AM
[21:18] <Chirei> poison me, skillbind me, do whatever you wish, i will still win.

(http://i.imgur.com/bBTH3pi.png) (http://i.imgur.com/r1JH2IF.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2015, 01:34:15 AM
Ha ha shit I forgot descends have two difficulties. Fuck Aamir, I'd rather partake of the +eggs right now than spend 100 stamina on his bullshit. Maybe after I rank up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 01, 2015, 01:35:20 AM
But then we'll never hear what you did to his face. :<
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 01, 2015, 02:48:52 AM
Isis confirmed best waifu on stream by Antonio BV

>You can expect Awoken Isis in a few weeks

Thank you Based Antonio ;____;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 01, 2015, 04:26:43 AM
Aamir is kind of an asshole. I decided to stall for ONE TURN and that started a 10 turn cycle of him binding GZL and Athena so I couldn't trigger Meimei's LS.

So I had to stall and survive a long time.

Please enjoy a picture of my OHKO revenge. Tell me, what did you do to MY face, Aamir?

(http://i.imgur.com/nU6gQYr.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2015, 05:54:07 AM
But then we'll never hear what you did to his face. :<

Okay so, I beat him and forgot to take a picture, but just imagine ice all around him from my blue rows and imagine I said "I didn't do anything to his face, just a little cryotherapy is all". Imagine that happened. :derp:

As predicted, he's easyballs. Worst part hilariously was High Wood Ninja, who took Gabe a long time to chip down.

What kind of droprates have you guys been seeing on Theurgia? My roommate and I were sitting at the same table as we cleared the dungeon, and between us we got 2/2 on legend and 1/1 on mythical. Is she 100% droprate? He was all excited to get his Awoken Shiva until he realized he only has two red orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 01, 2015, 06:09:30 AM
I did not get a Theurgia. :c

I did blast open his dungeon doors, however. (http://imgur.com/aSJ9jo7)

(http://i.imgur.com/o3m7SUe.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2015, 07:09:01 AM
Alright, moment of disappointment truth.

(http://i.imgur.com/Gk5yTpy.png)

God, fucking appalling. I did not know godfests could be that shit. ONE fucking on-fest god, no special gods, not even anything half-decent like a crest knight. I now own every hero except Andromeda, some of them twice. No use for Pandora. No particular use for Krishna. F-, would not godfest again.

That makes what, 250 stones spent on Hero God fests without any sign of Andro? Ugh.

Edit: Just watched my roommate pull three toy dragons in a row. You fucking with me, Gungho?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 01, 2015, 02:53:35 PM

That makes what, 250 stones spent on Hero God fests without any sign of Andro? Ugh.

I'm actually in the same boat as you, except the only Hero God I'm missing is Pandora.

Fortunately I pulled an acceptable alternative (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=2273)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLVSDX0UwAEMTlp.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 01, 2015, 03:47:19 PM
It's really satisfying to know that not only can I beat true dragon realm, I can beat it consistently.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 01, 2015, 06:04:22 PM
literally the hardest boss is the wood one

why is thesa game =so fuicking imablancedafsdfe
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 01, 2015, 06:11:26 PM
You're aware there are these things called "other teams", right? Maybe that would help.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 01, 2015, 06:15:00 PM
FINALLY FUCK YOU ZAEROG

You're aware there are these things called "other teams", right? Maybe that would help.
every other team I have would be horrible because no one else is even close to hypermaxed except my water team

i literally just need awoken isis but she wont be here before these stupid dungeons leave argggg
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 01, 2015, 06:22:16 PM
Then it's not a case of the game being "fuicking imablancedafsdfe", it's a case of you focusing way too much on one type and not realizing that one team can't work for everything in the game. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 01, 2015, 06:30:58 PM
well no it does work, i mean i beat it but it took a bunch of tries and stones because of stupid shit like green mobs living with 1 hp putting me on tilt all the time

and yes im just terrible i cant even beat aamir for fucks sakes ughhhh


this game makes me so mad jfc

i'd take a break but then that be wasting stamina durrrr
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 01, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
Then it's not a case of the game being "fuicking imablancedafsdfe"

i mean it kind of is because threedia was the one made to be an actual boss in the end due to how the game progressed

while beyzul and wangren are just roadblocks

also element disadvantage does kinda suck a lot.

it's a case of you focusing way too much on one type and not realizing that one team can't work for everything in the game. :V

being annoyed at content that it can work for and provenly should be able to is however, still legitimate

as suikama has kinda already proven

so it's not a case of that either

i'd take a break but then that be wasting stamina durrrr

take one anyway i'd say

you're obviously overheating and i don't think people in the thread are going to try to make that any better.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 01, 2015, 06:44:40 PM
well after this weekend the event ends and i wont have anything to be salty about anymore

and then awoken isis will probably be out before the next event so i'll be good

if she ISNT THOUGH THEN OH BOY THE SALT WILL FLOW
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 01, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Then it's not a case of the game being "fuicking imablancedafsdfe", it's a case of you focusing way too much on one type and not realizing that one team can't work for everything in the game. :V

I mean

the fact that type resistance literally just effects some teams but other teams are immune to it is the definition of imbalance. If all the colors actually had to deal with it I would agree for sure, but the fact that black and white are just better colors than the others is straight imablancedafsdfe. You could definitely argue that there's more stuff to hose light and dark to balance it back out, but there's still plenty of color hosing on top of type resistance for the other colors to deal with so I don't know how true that is.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on August 01, 2015, 11:36:01 PM
FINALLY FUCK YOU ZAEROG
every other team I have would be horrible because no one else is even close to hypermaxed except my water team

i literally just need awoken isis but she wont be here before these stupid dungeons leave argggg

Yeah, it takes ages to get new teams on online. Skill ups and +eggs take forever. To this day, there is exactly one hypermax card in my box, and it's not even the lead I've used for 500+ days.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 02, 2015, 01:28:56 AM
the fact that type resistance literally just effects some teams but other teams are immune to it is the definition of imbalance. If all the colors actually had to deal with it I would agree for sure, but the fact that black and white are just better colors than the others is straight imablancedafsdfe. You could definitely argue that there's more stuff to hose light and dark to balance it back out, but there's still plenty of color hosing on top of type resistance for the other colors to deal with so I don't know how true that is.

/me looks at Awoken Bastet, Awoken Shiva, Sarasvati, Shiva Dragon

Yeah... color resistance is biased in favor of Light/Dark... Mm...

No what's imbalanced is that there are now Leaders which have such stupid high damage potential that they don't give a shit about color resistance. I mean I can fucking one-shot Lifive with Awoken Bastet and that boss is 50% Fire with 8.6M HP. The problem is this kind of damage potential doesn't currently exist for Suikama because Awoken Isis isn't out in NA yet and he continues to insist with his waifu dedication.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 02, 2015, 01:36:11 AM
I haven't been using Isis btw I've been using Andro (since she's kind of a weaker aIsis)

I've pretty much been using just Andro & Skuld now. Andro for descends and Skuld for farming.

Despite Isis only being 4.5x over Andro's 4x though, her damage seems WAY higher when I compare my Andro's damage vs Isis in vids, probably because Isis has +orb awakenings and much higher base attack

Like I have no chance of killing fatty metal with andro through damage, while Isis can with triple rows
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 02, 2015, 01:36:23 AM
fuck

(http://i.imgur.com/jkxFFou.png)

its finally done
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Post by: Sapz on August 02, 2015, 01:51:08 AM
Today I got Andromeda. This is the 4th hero I've got but I think this is the first time I actually have a team of monsters that'd be great subs ready to go already, so I'm pretty excited to try this out once she's raised a bit. Prospective team is Andromeda/Blonia/Amon/Hatsume/Sharon/Andromeda. 9 rows and 100% skill bind resistance, oh baby.

I also rolled a troll gold Shaitan dupe gdi
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Post by: hyorinryu on August 02, 2015, 06:41:36 AM
Godfest rolls didn't go as I hoped.

I think it Naga, Fairlion, Dark Golem Mk II,  Sleeping Beauty, Red Mystic Knight. Annoyed, I went to the bathroom,  and did the closest thing I have to IAPing, openings mail that contained stones from months ago. I got the stones for logging in for 800+ days (still have yet to clear a rush. I'm a loaf.) At that point, the bathroom gave me both a Hatsume and Green Dragon Swordsman. I'm going to wait until those machine dragons come in to the REM and replace all the 3* star stuff before I roll again. I wanted Hermes, but Hatsume's cool too. I can prolly make a legit healer I&I team now, but I'd rather keep her B/B so my Andromeda team has more health(also makes it eaiser to ping things down. I want a Karin now.  I'm sure I can find a use for Earth Dragonswordsman. Perseus already has skillboosts out the ass, but the bind clear might prove useful. Think I'm just missing the red one and the dark one now.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 02, 2015, 06:50:13 AM
Annoyed, I went to the bathroom

The "fuck it" button for RNG confirmed
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 02, 2015, 07:12:22 AM
Not confirmed, it didn't work for me when I tried ;_;

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Post by: Jq1790 on August 02, 2015, 12:48:12 PM
Not confirmed, it didn't work for me when I tried ;_;


It's ok, I ran into that too, but oh well.  Nature of the beast, yknow?
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 02, 2015, 12:50:03 PM
RO collab coming back. Time to skill up Mitsuki, I see.
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Post by: trancehime on August 02, 2015, 02:51:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cOOZqeI.png)

well i guess that's a thing that's done
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Post by: Edible on August 02, 2015, 05:24:16 PM
Devil's Domain more like devil's dumb... main.  Regardless, that's one more Legend Plus down.

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE

BESTET WILL CUTE YOU TO DEATH

I should try Sonia Gran with her next, since it's here anyway.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 02, 2015, 07:06:25 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/rqgqiU8.jpg)

...ow.

One turn late for Parvati and the final blow.

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Post by: Suikama on August 02, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
wtf

i thought the corner glitch was fixed

IT STILL HAPPENS
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Post by: Jq1790 on August 02, 2015, 09:29:18 PM
wtf

i thought the corner glitch was fixed

IT STILL HAPPENS
Fix is in JP only still I believe.  We havent gotten the update I thought that fixed that?
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Post by: Suikama on August 02, 2015, 10:10:31 PM
oh
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 02, 2015, 11:40:10 PM
holy shit ronia why do you hit so hard

and why do you have so much health gfdi a full activation took less than half your health and you mudered me in return

my team has buttfuck insane rcv i know but i can't handle 16k hits every turn gdi girl
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Post by: Suikama on August 03, 2015, 02:13:49 AM
bah screw devil rush it's time to farm +s
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Post by: commandercool on August 03, 2015, 02:55:23 AM
Yeah, I've got four stones left after that travesty of a godfest, and I think I'm actually getting significantly better rates on Ocean Of Heaven right now than I usually do on Star Vault, so I'm going to dump all of them on stamina. I thought about trying to use that stamina to beat the rushes so I can complete this challenge dungeon and cash in on another stone, but I would probably fuck it up, so I'll just take my +eggs instead. I think I would actually rather have another mountain of +eggs than another pair of piis at this point anyway, although maybe that's being naive.

Edit: God, the things I could've hypermaxed if I had stayed away from the trashfest... I wonder how many stones worth of stamina I could have spent before my thumb fell off.
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Post by: trancehime on August 03, 2015, 02:52:55 PM
YamaP announced the first monsters to receive triple typing:

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Post by: commandercool on August 03, 2015, 02:59:02 PM
My best guess on Valkyries is Healer/God/Attacker. I can't really picture them being anything else unless it's a new type. That would make Rose sooooo gooood.

And if Awoken Mei gets her god typing back that'd be great. Then I wouldn't hesitate for a second to evolve mine.
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Post by: trancehime on August 03, 2015, 03:03:37 PM
My best guess on Valkyries is Healer/God/Attacker. I can't really picture them being anything else unless it's a new type. That would make Rose sooooo gooood.

claire = healer/god/devil

femme / elize / reine  = healer/god/attacker

rose = healer/god/balance

would be my predictions

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Post by: Edible on August 03, 2015, 03:06:53 PM
claire = healer/god/devil

femme / elize / reine  = healer/god/attacker

rose = healer/god/balance

would be my predictions

This would be amazing if they did it (reine to physical though please)

Kinda hope they update their stats accordingly though
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Post by: commandercool on August 03, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
I don't want their stats adjusted. I like Reine right where she is thanks, and Physical/Healer is probably my least favorite type combination.

Devil and Balanced are definitely options though. Actually I wouldn't mind seeing them all become Healer/God/Balanced since Balanced is so far behind the other types in support (Physical also a liitle lacking obviously, but they're clearly anything but Physical right now).
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 03, 2015, 04:08:34 PM
Holy shit please make Reine attacker or physical and make Elize attacker :*
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Post by: Jq1790 on August 03, 2015, 04:14:48 PM
Rose Balanced?  I know light balanced is aburgeoning thing, but the opportunity for Attacker oh man...Of course since she's the farmable she'll probably get some almost-useless-for-her type, but still.
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Post by: Suikama on August 03, 2015, 04:28:47 PM
I hope they get some more awakenings too. They effectively only have 4 awakenings, but at the cost of having 8 stars and high cost which is bad for S ranking and special dungeons
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Post by: Chaore on August 03, 2015, 05:10:21 PM
I hope they get some more awakenings too. They effectively only have 4 awakenings, but at the cost of having 8 stars and high cost which is bad for S ranking and special dungeons

This also comes at the being hands down some of the best 5 turn changers in the game.

They're honestly some of the last cards that deserve buffs right now, and having them get 'better' awakenings after what happened to the ninjas would leave an -awful- taste in my mouth tbh.
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Post by: Suikama on August 03, 2015, 05:30:52 PM
oh hey they need buffs too

and norse

and uh a lot of cards :V


but instead they buffed ronia lel
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Post by: commandercool on August 03, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
What do you guys think of Krishna? Should I bother making a team for mine? I still don't really have a red team and while my red pool is atill split more than I'd like between prongs and rows it seems like he might be my best bet as a lead.

This is the stuff I've got that seems like it work well with him off the top of my head:
Yamato Takeru x2
Ronia
Gigas (vanilla and school)
Homura
Horus
Kagutsuchi
Urd
Misato

Is that enough to make a functional team? I assume he just wants four orbchangers, but the lack of Femme or Chiyome is unfortunate.

The two Takerus bandaid the lack of skillboosts I'm seeing here, but then my row count ultimately clocks in pretty low. How many rows does Krishna need? He's got a big modifier and orb enhances, so it's possible he doesn't actually lean on rows that heavily to get kills, but I don't actually know how that breaks down for practical use.
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Post by: Suikama on August 03, 2015, 06:31:00 PM
Kagu is the first obvious pick. He's just 2 gud

Tomato is another really good sub. Triple SB is really useful especially since Krish has none

Then yeah you want low CD changers, MInerva+Femme/Chiyome is pretty much the best, although I think it also depends on the dungeon.

Like if you need orb changers floor 1 then double Tomatos + Urd lets you have a bunch up turn 1

Also it depends on who you have max skilled/+297
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Post by: commandercool on August 03, 2015, 06:43:22 PM
None of these things have any skillups (well, I guess Gigas does) or +eggs. I'm willing to spend some time skilling up stuff, but this is going to be my quinary team, so +eggs are not in the cards.

It is quite a sad state of affairs that I have that Kagutsuchi sitting around unused. I guess it took me a while to find a home for Liu Bei too, so he'll probavly get there.

Really I suppose I'm hoping Misato's new evolution will be lead-quality. Would love to have an excuse to hypermax her.
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Post by: Thaws on August 03, 2015, 08:10:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/joqAhUz.jpg)

Llsix is the stupidest dungeon but I did it. No stone clear!
I don't know if I should call this run lucky or not. 80% poison resist failed me 3 out of 4 times.
When Starling is under 20% she did whole board to blue and poison and poison resist failed me, BUT she also locked 4 green orbs for me previously so I had enough to finish him off!
Though I had like 10 poison orbs to take care of and my hp was like 11k, I thought I was dead in llsix already so I didn't care too much and randomly made like 5 combos and left 3 poison orbs unmatched, and somehow survived with 2k hp into Llsix.
And then I relied on Baggi to survive like 4 turns on llsix before I got him to under 30% so that his perservance is gone. Verdandi was back up on like the 2nd turn into llsix so I could flush away the poison which helped alot.
I don't think this dungeon gets any less stupid even if you're not using a green team tbh. :V
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Post by: Edible on August 04, 2015, 05:25:40 AM
Speaking of dagons, no-stoned lifive earlier.  Yay.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 04, 2015, 05:36:39 AM
Okay. So. Awoken Byakko's arrival is -bound- to happen in two events or something, right? But I need a way to beat the shit out of Xuanzang.

The only thing I can come up with, though, is...
Kiriko/Un-uvo Chiyome/Guan Yingping/RB Shinra Apollo/Laila/Kiriko

You know, an unconditional 9x attack ain't so bad for a cost-restricted dungeon...
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Post by: Dorakyura on August 04, 2015, 07:55:56 AM
Okay. So. Awoken Byakko's arrival is -bound- to happen in two events or something, right? But I need a way to beat the shit out of Xuanzang.

The only thing I can come up with, though, is...
Kiriko/Un-uvo Chiyome/Guan Yingping/RB Shinra Apollo/Laila/Kiriko

You know, an unconditional 9x attack ain't so bad for a cost-restricted dungeon...

Doesn't sound bad at all.
I wonder if I can use my Gaia team, or I go with a Noah and 3 leeks and echidna (I don't have 4 leeks, sold one by accident) :V
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 04, 2015, 08:38:56 AM
Okay. So. Awoken Byakko's arrival is -bound- to happen in two events or something, right?

Potentially, but unlikely. She needs a descend drop that we don't have yet, and the next ones up are likely Zeus&Hera (nothing like being like 8 months late, eh GH?) and then maybe Zhou Yu. We know for sure that Awoken Anubis and Isis are next. But because NA loves to drag things out I would say Awoken Lei and Haku and Sakuya will all come in the next 3 or 4 events since they never seem to do consecutive content updates. Or something. Depends on how huge this 1000 day event will be. If it makes an effort to jump us closer to JP's rate, it'd be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

Which is fine, I need time to gather a couple more dark jewels and badpy anyway.
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Post by: Thaws on August 04, 2015, 09:03:52 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628480600555393024
That's Chester in case you couldn't tell. I wouldn't be able to tell without the DJs

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628481040097505280
Awilda ohhh. Good Choice there gungho. Much better than that christmas genie that came out of nowhere :V
Also all other pirates in the back in chibi form :3

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628481422152458240
RIP watermelons

gg guys
bye stones

Also, Wetatron getting buffed. Notice that her LS always had a different name than LMeta so this possibly does not imply LMeta getting buffed together.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 04, 2015, 09:21:57 AM
>Chibi Pirates

They have never made more of a trap. At least chibi China girls and chibi heroes have some sort of limited usefulness.

Don't be careless.
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Post by: commandercool on August 04, 2015, 12:47:40 PM
Wish there was a way to sort monsters by book number (unless there is and I overlooked it). I want to know exactly how many of which Keepers I need to restock without spending too much time sorting through my box. And seslecting an entry in the book doesn't tell you how many of that monster you have. Come on, that would be useful.
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Post by: Dorakyura on August 04, 2015, 12:56:54 PM
Wish there was a way to sort monsters by book number (unless there is and I overlooked it). I want to know exactly how many of which Keepers I need to restock without spending too much time sorting through my box. And seslecting an entry in the book doesn't tell you how many of that monster you have. Come on, that would be useful.

When you sort by Cost, Type-A and Att, you can find the normal Keepers somewhere in the center :)
This also sorts all cost "1" Evo mats at the bottom, sorted by colour. Tamas and Enchance Dragon will be at the most bottom of your box.
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Post by: commandercool on August 04, 2015, 01:16:18 PM
What's the best way to get colored Valkyries? Is it a pink REM type of thing, or a Director's Choice carnival kind of thing? Or something else? I'm tired of throwing stones into the howling Andromeda-shaped void, and I find myself wishing I had all of the missing (non-blue) colored valkyries for like every new team I try to make.

I understand that they're still frustratingly rare, but aiming at those sits better with me than still going after fucking Andromeda. Is there a half-decent place to try to get ahold of them?

When you sort by Cost, Type-A and Att, you can find the normal Keepers somewhere in the center :)
This also sorts all cost "1" Evo mats at the bottom, sorted by colour. Tamas and Enchance Dragon will be at the most bottom of your box.

Thanks, yeah, that does work functionally well. Seems like a lot of hoops to jump through when we could have a sort by number or even text search feature, but that's a minor complaint.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 04, 2015, 01:27:13 PM
So close to anubis-tier gameplay, but still yet so far. Must train harder

(http://i.imgur.com/EZmSXfY.png) (http://i.imgur.com/NjqG58m.png)
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Post by: trancehime on August 04, 2015, 01:34:01 PM
https://twitter.com/PuzzDragNA/status/628278579579719681

The NA PAD Twitter has apparently featured the PAD Leader Guides written on the PAD Subreddit, and I wrote one of them!

I'm kinda acknowledged I guess?!
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Post by: Jq1790 on August 04, 2015, 01:49:04 PM
>Chibi Pirates

They have never made more of a trap. At least chibi China girls and chibi heroes have some sort of limited usefulness.

Don't be careless.
I thiiiink that was in reference to Summer!Awilda's art as opposed to the REM pulls available? I hope...!?
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Post by: trancehime on August 04, 2015, 02:34:33 PM
I thiiiink that was in reference to Summer!Awilda's art as opposed to the REM pulls available? I hope...!?

It's the art.

We don't know the full lineup yet for the REM.
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Post by: Chaore on August 04, 2015, 03:53:51 PM
The summer event kinda sorta has my attention now.

Barely, though. Summer Awilda...? I'm hoping thats the dungeon boss :V

It's got more effort than I expected, so I'll enjoy the dungeon atleast.
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Post by: commandercool on August 04, 2015, 04:01:58 PM
Do we know what the Wetatron buff is? Anything to force people to use theirs so I can get some as friends would be great.

And if it would push a different but equivalent buff for Metatron, even better. Come on Gungho, give her a white row already.
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Post by: Thaws on August 04, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
Barely, though. Summer Awilda...? I'm hoping thats the dungeon boss :V

nope it's REM
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Post by: Chaore on August 04, 2015, 04:29:46 PM
nope it's REM

tttthat's gonna be interesting.

On the plus side, Chester and Claire are cool 'win cards'.

...On the downside, yeah, nevermind, it's gonna be a terrible rem.
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Post by: Edible on August 04, 2015, 04:37:54 PM
I feel like I might have asked this recently, but if I did I forgot:

When did JP get the gungho pal egg REM?  The one with Arthur and Pianis.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 05, 2015, 01:31:05 AM
When you run out of applicable friends to run a guerilla dungeon with, sometimes you have to just throw together what you have and hope for the best.

(http://i.imgur.com/GHNCRhhl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GHNCRhh.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hSfEtpbl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/hSfEtpb.jpg)

This can have mixed results.
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Post by: Suikama on August 05, 2015, 01:39:57 AM
i only need dark keepers

so of course only light ones spawn
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Post by: commandercool on August 05, 2015, 02:00:13 AM
i only need dark keepers

so of course only light ones spawn

Ha ha, as is traditional for us I have the opposite. I threw away five Dark Keepers today, still need two plus Light Keepers. I should honestly just be doing Keeper Of Gold for guaranteed drops, but I kind of need Rainbow Keepers too.
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Post by: trancehime on August 05, 2015, 07:25:54 AM

When did JP get the gungho pal egg REM?  The one with Arthur and Pianis.

june

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628847520123240448 Swimsuit Hera-Is (Dungeon Boss)
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628848110807072768 Beach Pirate Gronia (REM)
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628848729974398976 Swimsuit Urd w/ Glasses alt ult
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628849708748767233 Swimsuit DValk w/ Tan
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/628850614819160066 Beach Pandora
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Post by: Yukarin on August 05, 2015, 09:03:44 AM
i am hype for that urd she's gorgeous
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 05, 2015, 10:43:41 AM
Hmm. Maybe I'll make ult Hera-is after all.

But meanwhile holy shit please give beach Pandora Sandora and tan Claire for my life is not complete without them
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Post by: Jq1790 on August 05, 2015, 11:35:26 AM
Summer!Pandora is impossibly cute.  I want 12.  nomegane!Urd is also quite nice.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 05, 2015, 12:06:46 PM
I am seeing lots of girls in beachwear and only one dude. This needs to be rectified. Shining Lifeguard Odin or I shall start a riot.
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Post by: commandercool on August 05, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
I am seeing lots of girls in beachwear and only one dude. This needs to be rectified. Shining Lifeguard Odin or I shall start a riot.

I know, right? Zhuge Liang and Odin are perfect for this kind of thing. Also, Larry The Lobster Gigas anyone?

Edit: Heads up for Star Vault tomorrow. It's in the first rotation though, so it's probabky going to be during work for a lot of people. I don't have a ton of stones left myself, but I'll still probably have a go if I can.

Edit edit: Beach Gabriel is the easiest art concept ever. Turn his robe into a sarong, give him some abs and a frozen cocktail, and that's it. But please don't do that Gungho, I could not handle a mega-rare, better Gabriel.
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Post by: Edible on August 05, 2015, 12:40:03 PM
lewd
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 05, 2015, 12:44:36 PM
I make the angels scream
and the devil cry


(http://i.imgur.com/eteeazA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/w34LufV.png) (http://i.imgur.com/lmrETCp.png) (http://i.imgur.com/RRFVKbN.png)
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Post by: commandercool on August 05, 2015, 04:33:50 PM
Oh god, not this again.

I need one more skillup to max my GZL, so I've been doing Wednesday Dungeon all day. 4/4 5/5 blue masks so far, which I don't even really want to save for Orochi because his skill is probably going to change in his awoken form.

Edit: Really feeling the need for that ultimate black Kali. Not that Verdandi can't stomp Wednesday Dungeon flat anyway, but having a 100% lockproof Ra would be great in general.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 05, 2015, 10:17:24 PM
Weird. I thought I heard that Awoken Orochi's skill wouldn't change, but now I can't find the source.

Maybe, hope you roll a Nut?
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 05, 2015, 10:18:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/ahsrrBGl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ahsrrBG.jpg)

oh yeah guess I should have done this a while back, knowing that I can handle lv6 with basically the same team I used here

Kind of ironic that I felt like it took too long, though, given my patience with other dungeons. :V
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 12:29:16 AM
Weird. I thought I heard that Awoken Orochi's skill wouldn't change, but now I can't find the source.

Unlikely. Awoken forms always tend to either be advanced versions of their original skills, or have a weakened version of the original on a faster countdown and an additional effect.

The same will likely apply to Awoken Japanese.
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Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2015, 12:33:26 AM
 :wat:

6/6 blue masks.

PAD. STOP IT. NOW. Bad dog.

That's a 1.6% chance. You're not allowed to do this to me after those four skill locks in a row at 80% resist during Zhao Yun last week. You owe me number karma. Not to mention the godfest that shall not be named.

Edit: Okay, 1/1 Muse skillup and 1/1 Metatron skillup is actually pretty good compensation.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 06, 2015, 05:58:03 AM
wait Urd is looking awfully like Mokou now.

Got a Sarasvati skillup with spare stamina... 8 more to go! :c

What else happened. Got three Theurgia skillups from yesterday's Grimoires. I'm thinking of replacing Belial with her in Yamato Takeru's team, as she can be used in conjunction of any of the other active skills, is shorter than Belial by 2 turns, and doesn't give the "three green-orb-to-fire" overlap that 2x YakiTori+Belial does.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Sapz on August 06, 2015, 08:55:51 AM
That new Hermes really screams 'put me in an Awoken Karin team'. Good stuff.

EDIT: On second thought, converting away green. RIP in pieces. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
Yyyyyyeah I kinda want Bikini Claire and Urd now. And you can actually buy Claire!... for 300k MP. But she's 3x atk to Devils, 1.5x hp to dark, which is kind of amazing, so... (And her tan evo is attacker/devil!)

Also a DMeta buff! She boosts hp for dark types now. I'm intrigued.

http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=365 hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why do the trap REMs have to be so good

Pirate Gronia looks like Parvati's best friend too! And GZL compatible!

Aaaaand Pandora is basically built in with Andromeda's LS now. And great sub compatibility with double TPA!

Edit: wait no, it's literally just 4x atk if you clear 6+ dark/water orbs. That is... insanely broken. Holy shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2015, 11:14:05 AM
Yyyyyyeah I kinda want Bikini Claire and Urd now. And you can actually buy Claire!... for 300k MP. But she's 3x atk to Devils, 1.5x hp to dark, which is kind of amazing, so... (And her tan evo is attacker/devil!)

Also a DMeta buff! She boosts hp for dark types now. I'm intrigued.

http://puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=365 hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh why do the trap REMs have to be so good

Pirate Gronia looks like Parvati's best friend too! And GZL compatible!

Aaaaand Pandora is basically built in with Andromeda's LS now. And great sub compatibility with double TPA!

Edit: wait no, it's literally just 4x atk if you clear 6+ dark/water orbs. That is... insanely broken. Holy shit.

Note that other regions cannot get this event yet... unless they magically push out the MP update before summer ends... which would be really really fuggin quick.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 11:18:44 AM
Yeah, I find comfort in that. Gives me time to grind up stones that will inevitably become chibi fodder. :(

The urge to break non-IAP is strong here but I know these are traps and always end in salt. I said it earlier: don't be careless.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2015, 11:25:14 AM
Yeah, I find comfort in that. Gives me time to grind up stones that will inevitably become chibi fodder. :(

The urge to break non-IAP is strong here but I know these are traps and always end in salt. I said it earlier: don't be careless.

Remember each silver now is +3000 MP once that update hits, so the blow is cushioned a bit.

Though if they're doing this... MP's value has now shown itself: They are now in the window to push out collab buyables, so this is definitely something I'm gonna save up over time. That said, if you want to sell your dupe Skuld for this... then this is a much more reasonable option.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 06, 2015, 12:07:51 PM
i'll bite the proverbial bullet; I'm going to dedicate any stones I use for pulling directly in to the Summer REM, since I have no use for this weekend's JP GodFesta.

Edit: wait no, it's literally just 4x atk if you clear 6+ dark/water orbs. That is... insanely broken. Holy shit.

No, Beach Pandora's LS is Regular Pandora + Regular Andro in one. You still have the x3~x4 scaling. Just that you can do Dark or Water orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 12:54:20 PM
It was phrased pretty weird then. And the tpa makes no sense for the leader role so I guess that's for sub use.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 06, 2015, 01:31:50 PM
It was phrased pretty weird then. And the tpa makes no sense for the leader role so I guess that's for sub use.

The Japanese phrasing is exactly the same as the normal Pandora only that it added an "or Water orbs" part to it ^^;; But it's very easy to miss it...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 01:43:34 PM
I was reading what was on pdx though:

LS: Up to 4x ATK when erasing 6+ Water or Dark orbs.

It didn't specify that they necessarily needed to be connected. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 06, 2015, 01:48:11 PM
Ah yeah that is rather ambiguous. I guess they just presumed people would assume it's connected?

I don't own Pandora so I'd really like... Any of the 7* To be honest!! Haha...  :ohdear: :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 06, 2015, 01:49:27 PM
Yesss Hermes is exactly as I predicted

Dark sub att, triple row, literally the perfect Isis sub

You can even build an Attacker/Devil Isis team now with like Isis, Hermes, Neptune, Amon, and uh Merlin I guess

now i just need to get one though .__.


also holy shit gonia welcome to the OP as fuck green TPA club
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2015, 01:55:48 PM
Yooo I need an ACeres up again someone send help  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 02:20:12 PM
Sorry, got your message late. She's up now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2015, 03:00:06 PM
Sorry, got your message late. She's up now.

Thanks! I'll probably still need her up in one slot since I plan to do something later, but I finally got to beat this asshole up.

(http://i.imgur.com/gsVLqWp.png) (http://i.imgur.com/A3XvfUP.png)

~All Alt. Dungeons Full Clear~
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2015, 03:29:54 PM
*Puzzle & Dragons Thousand Day Event, Part 1*
[Duration]: 8/7 (Fri), 12:00 AM - 8/15 (Sat), 11:59 PM (PDT)

It?s just a bit past three years--but quadruple digits is bonafide impressive! To celebrate this special anniversary, we brought some new gifts, along with 2.5x Skill Up AND EXP Gain Chance! What a treat!

Without you, we would have no such celebration to speak of! We hope you enjoy, and thank you for playing Puzzle & Dragons!

■① Daily Login Bonuses
8/7 - 8/15 - 1 free Magic Stone
*Bonuses will be distributed as late as 3:59 AM (PDT) the following day.

■② At Breakneck Speed
The Rush Cycle returns to break onto the scene! Challenge the Heras, Devils, Gods, Dragons, and Gods for bragging rights and rewards!

8/7 - 8/8 - Ultimate Hera Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*
8/9 - 8/10 - Ultimate Devil Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*
8/11 - 8/12 - Ultimate Dragon Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*
8/13 - 8/14 - Ultimate God Rush! *Spirit Jewels invades may appear at 1.5x rates!*

■③ Poringring!
They may be cuddly shaped drops of slime, but they?re also invaluable skill ups for the Heartbreakers! The return of Poring Tower is a great addition to our anniversary! Challenge Dungeons are also available!

8/7 - 8/9 - Poring Tower
8/14 - 8/16 - Sword of Flames
8/10 - 8/16 - Breakers!
8/7 - 8/16 - Challenge Dungeons!

■④ The Most Caloric Egg
This TAMA?s been eating a few too many stars! Taking after his King Metal friend maybe a bit too much, this gift dungeon TAMADRA gives quite a bit of experience--his dungeon does too!

8/7 - 8/23 - Experience of a Lifetime


■⑤ Special Event Content
The originals show us why they?re still King and Queen.

8/14 - 8/16 - ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


■⑥ Special Event Dungeon Schedule
The Spirit Jewels are active from 8/7 to 8/23!
See here for details: http://on.fb.me/1swdWlb
8/7 - Hera-Ur Descended!
8/8 - Zeus Mercury Descended!
8/8 - Draggie!
8/9 - Hera-Beorc Descended!
8/9 - Guan Yinping!
8/10 - Zeus Vulcan Descended!
8/11 - Heracles Descended!
8/12 - Zhao Yun Descended!
8/12 - Gaia Descended!
8/13 - Sandalphon Descended!
8/14 - Sonia Gran Descended!
8/15 - Diagoldos Descended!

■⑦ Awesome Daily Bonuses
This event features both 2.5x chance for EXP Gain AND 2.5x Skill Up rates--the perfect combination to power your monsters with!

Pal Egg Event:
8/7 - 8/23 - Rare Evo Materials

Dungeon Bonus:
5x chance for +Eggs to appear in Technical Dungeons [extends until 8/15 (Sat), 12:00 PM PDT]
Fusion Bonus:
2.5x chance for 'GREAT!' or 'SUPER!!' EXP Gain
2.5x Skill Up rate
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 06, 2015, 03:48:41 PM
durr hurr
Let's manage to get to Thoth and Sopdet themselves using dual Purins, without stoning, with Apocalypse, Valkyrie, Ariel, and Purin's active skills available

and then mess up the 22/8 board and only get four combos
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on August 06, 2015, 03:57:09 PM
>Tries several times with various teams to beat Water cat mythical, fails
>uses monoblue, steamrolls it

Welp.

Time to gather boss drops so I can try to skill up Shotel!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
Oh man that event looks good. I'm gonna be so busy, and that's a good thing. And we got Fat Tama's dungeon to grease the wheels a little so we can do even more stuff. Excellent.

Zeus/Hera looks pretty hard. Pending translation of enemy attacks I might be able to do it with Gabe, or I might just easy button through with Ra.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 06, 2015, 04:43:19 PM
summer rem

jesus

that looks like absolute and entire hell, it's xmas-rem on hillarious suffering scale

i don't want more mini-lucis you sons of bitches yamap i will fucking deck you






free claire is fucking delicious though, sure glad na doesn't have complete parity.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 05:33:08 PM
Yeah, forget shiva dragon and Neptune dragon. Bikini Claire is where it's at.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 06, 2015, 05:40:54 PM
Oh man that event looks good. I'm gonna be so busy, and that's a good thing. And we got Fat Tama's dungeon to grease the wheels a little so we can do even more stuff. Excellent.

Zeus/Hera looks pretty hard. Pending translation of enemy attacks I might be able to do it with Gabe, or I might just easy button through with Ra.

Using the mythical stats here:

King Slimes: just go look at Draggie
Minerva: reduces light/dark by 50%, preemptive 5-turn 5-combo shield. Will use 紅蓮一閃 five times (???), then the damage buff, then the other moves until the end of time.
Neptune: reduces light/dark by 50%, preemptive 4-turn status shield. cycles through the moves like this:
--first column poison, fifth column hearts, 3059
--first column poison, sixth column hearts, 6118
--first column hearts, fifth column poison, 9177
--first column hearts, sixth column poison, 12236
--first and fifth columns poison, 24472
--presumably loops
Ceres: reduces light/dark by 50%, preemptive 5-turn skillbind. Every time she's below 50% HP, will use Soul Cure to heal herself. Every sixth turn (regardless of the first condition), will use Soul Burst (30459 + entire board to wood and hearts). Otherwise, randomly uses:
--bind player leader and 7615
--bind three random monsters and 5077
--12183 to 16244
Hades: reduces wood/dark by 50%, should be straightforward
Z&H: dual preemptive 2-turn status shield and 999-turn 4-combo shield. Above 40% HP, very three turns, uses (6120 + middle two columns to light) and refreshes the status shield. Otherwise, randomly uses:
--(6120 + middle two columns to light) + 9180
--(7650 + fourth row to light) + (3825 + light to jammers)
--(7650 + fourth row to light) + 9180
--(6120 + middle two columns to light) + (5100 + bind one random monster)
--(7650 + fourth row to light) + 99% gravity
--God's Gaze + 99% gravity

Below 40%, God's Gaze + skip turn, followed by 22950 + 40800 every turn. When they're below 10%, 95% gravity + they heal 50%.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2015, 05:43:18 PM
Yeah, Claire in the store is fantastic. But Gungho has me in a real trap here with monster money. My perfectionism will not allow me to not buy hidden Tamadras with all of my monster bux, so until all of my teams have every monster maxed out on hidden awakenings I can buy no monsters forever.

Which brings me to something I've been thinking about a lot lately-which hidden awakenings do I want for my Gabriel team? I'm inclined to go +HP or +RCV, but honestly they all seem useful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 06:02:37 PM
I dunno, they've been seeming pretty insignificant in the long run. But you may as well go for whatever gives you the best benefit. If I buy any of those awakenings, they'll be time extends.

But really my MP will all be pooled into a Claire fund, so. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 06, 2015, 06:06:01 PM
The HP and RCV awakenings are only 1.5% and 4% of the base stat (so not counting +eggs), so I don't think they'd be of much use. I'd probably suggest whatever element resist awakenings you don't have on your team to make 100% gravities not an instant kill, then go for stuff like the stat ups if you really want them.

Also don't buy them because they're apparently invades in the 5x4 versions of descends (JP currently has water resist in the coin version of Noah, and used to have fire resist in the coin version of Hera-Ur).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on August 06, 2015, 06:06:59 PM
I'm disappointed they wasted the best opportunity to make dark healer relevant and went ahead to make another dark devil LS.

I'm finding this l less appealing than Christmas/academy rem for some reason. I'd have liked to see more Santa Sakuya or Ss Isis style LSes. Hype is dide
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2015, 06:13:39 PM
The HP and RCV awakenings are only 1.5% and 4% of the base stat (so not counting +eggs), so I don't think they'd be of much use. I'd probably suggest whatever element resist awakenings you don't have on your team to make 100% gravities not an instant kill, then go for stuff like the stat ups if you really want them.

Also don't buy them because they're apparently invades in the 5x4 versions of descends (JP currently has water resist in the coin version of Noah, and used to have fire resist in the coin version of Hera-Ur).

I'm assuming hidden awakening stat adjustmemts are still taken into account before leader skills, right? My team has substantial multipliers for every stat, so after a boost those numbers become significant, especially when stacked.

Also (re: farmable hiddens Tamas), wait, what? Badass. Are they insanely ultrarare or otherwise prohibitively hard to get ahold of? That sounds great.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 06, 2015, 06:18:09 PM
I'm assuming hidden awakening stat adjustmemts are still taken into account before leader skills, right? My team has substantial multipliers for every stat, so after a boost those numbers become significant, especially when stacked.

Also (re: farmable hiddens Tamas), wait, what? Badass. Are they insanely ultrarare or otherwise prohibitively hard to get ahold of? That sounds great.

Should be, yeah.

I assume they're the same rarity as jewel invades as we know them now; the only thing that might really throw off that calculation is that the 5x4 dungeons are labeled Mythical and Legend Plus...solely because of the 5x4 gimmick. The damage values are equal to Legend and Mythical (respectively) otherwise.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
I think I should be able to handle Zeus&Hera with Awoken Meimei. The only really scary bit would be Hades, I think. And I may not get to use Astaroth as well as I think. There's no way I'm gonna be OHKOing them at any rate.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2015, 06:24:43 PM
Breaking news: river goddess is brutally murdered by local plantlife

(http://i.imgur.com/3JRypdH.png)

we'll be back with the weather at 6
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: hyorinryu on August 06, 2015, 06:25:40 PM
Did the little birdie survive, or was there a 2nd casualty?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
I gotta do math on Zeus/Hera, but I don't think it's Gabriel-friendly. The floors and color resists are in the wrong places, so I'd have to burst consecutively in a way that isn't really doable. Maybe if I can tank some huge hits for a while I can do it. I'll figure it out later.

Looks like Ra should be good to go, but dealing with the actual boss sounds hard. I think I'd have to hit them precisely between 41% and 49% with the first attack, is that right? Oof.

Should be, yeah.

I assume they're the same rarity as jewel invades as we know them now; the only thing that might really throw off that calculation is that the 5x4 dungeons are labeled Mythical and Legend Plus...solely because of the 5x4 gimmick. The damage values are equal to Legend and Mythical (respectively) otherwise.

Cool, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 06, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
Did the little birdie survive, or was there a 2nd casualty?

No remains were found, fate unknown
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 06, 2015, 06:52:22 PM
I'm disappointed they wasted the best opportunity to make dark healer relevant and went ahead to make another dark devil LS.

I'm finding this l less appealing than Christmas/academy rem for some reason. I'd have liked to see more Santa Sakuya or Ss Isis style LSes. Hype is dide

It's got too much stuff in the rem, and the chinese skill ups are seriously kinda outdated. Not to mention, no actual pantheon- just well, Chibis. Some which have aged well, and most, which have, frankly not.

This is probably the worst trap rem by far, which is a huge feat tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on August 06, 2015, 06:57:59 PM
I stopped caring about the summer REM when I saw Hermes.  Absolutely perfect in every way I hoped for

Though pirate GSonia is entirely insane.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 06, 2015, 07:05:48 PM
I stopped caring about the summer REM when I saw Hermes.  Absolutely perfect in every way I hoped for

Though pirate GSonia is entirely insane.

I'm not going to lie,  Pandora and Gronia are -excellent- cards in the end, pandora significantly more so,  and urd is very solid, and chester is well, still chester.

It's just -almost fucking everything else in the fucking rem- and the chances of getting those are all really fuckin' bad
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 06, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
I'm going to roll a lot

I'm not going to get anything I want

Suffering
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 06, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
I'm going to roll a lot

I'm not going to get anything I want

Suffering

edible stop

it's not worth it

it's absolutely not
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 06, 2015, 07:30:46 PM
edible stop

it's not worth it

it's absolutely not

(http://i.imgur.com/pN2ydHL.gif)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 07:32:20 PM
It's really not. Your chances of getting one of the exclusives over the shitty chibis are astronomically low and much more suited to those who can throw money to the wind on silvers. :v

I mean, I'll probably throw a roll or two at it the more I think about it, but it's like buying a lottery ticket. Chances are you're gonna lose, but there's always the chance of winning...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 06, 2015, 08:18:24 PM
(http://media.giphy.com/media/Uno27COfoYlH2/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2015, 08:24:49 PM
Don't do it. Take that money and go buy something else stupid. Don't do iiiiiiit!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 06, 2015, 08:32:06 PM
(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/18/184483/2539433-2642583531-24674.gif)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on August 06, 2015, 08:52:51 PM
Just realize the TPAs in Pandora and that LS means you can link 8 blue orbs then make TPA dark combos, not that it's worth the trouble but that's kinda cool :V

I'll throw in a few rolls to see if I can get Gronia I guess :3 but I really lack green attackers unless Elize's 3rd type is going to be attacker. (I don't want to put two liu beis in a team...)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on August 06, 2015, 09:10:45 PM
Chibi RSonia and Chibi Valk were still in, right?  I will prob take shots at those, maybe just one or two.  Other than that yeah really not in need of anything the REM has to offer so eh.

More stones to save to shoot for stuff like Andro or Muse or BOdin or other cool normal REM stuff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 06, 2015, 09:14:59 PM
All jokes aside I don't really need any of the golds this time around, as cool as some of them are.  Already have a max level/skill Pandora (and three more sitting around doing nothing), don't need yet another green board changer, and Summer Urd seems to just be a downgrade from vanilla Urd.  Wetatron has precisely as much use to me as LMeta, and I already have one at max level.

I'd use any of them I rolled whenever I could because that's what you do with trophy golds, but... yeah.

The best one by far for my needs is Claire, and I have plenty of REM shit to sell when we get that particular functionality so I don't need to stress over it :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Suikama on August 06, 2015, 09:48:22 PM
summer rem

jesus

that looks like absolute and entire hell, it's xmas-rem on hillarious suffering scale

i don't want more mini-lucis you sons of bitches yamap i will fucking deck you






free claire is fucking delicious though, sure glad na doesn't have complete parity.
its funny cause I asked for valks with better awakenings and then we get this :V

actually holy shit she even has much better base stats too

gungho please make a blue valk too
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Moogs Parfait on August 06, 2015, 09:52:21 PM
I actually could really use that Claire to round out my forming LKali team, Beezle's active doesn't help much, and Water instead of Dark is as good as a 20% damage boost, which puts her close to Beezle's naturally higher attack.  With Claire all the colors are also filled, giving me more freedom to swap out the rest of the team.

Of couse, I'm still at 0 skill ups for Sun Quan and he's Water too. =\

I also have too much stuff to level/evo/awaken already =\
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: triangles on August 06, 2015, 10:49:49 PM
Ok so the only way one should be allowed to repeatedly roll against better judgement on the suffering dragon is if there is live blogging/streaming and alcohol involved.
 
Just saying.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 06, 2015, 10:59:29 PM
its funny cause I asked for valks with better awakenings and then we get this :V

actually holy shit she even has much better base stats too

gungho please make a blue valk too

YEAH SHES KINDA EXACTLY WHY I SAID 'don't do that'

5 cd meta for dark is now 'literally just use beach claire.'

hanzo is fucking dead basically

I really hope that this isn't a thing that repeats in the future and kind of fucking glad she's only limited time, because jesus




oh also hope you didn't roll endlessly for a claire and get one

we released a free one that's way better

also @thaws: haku system
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 06, 2015, 11:27:59 PM
There isn't an exclusive that I couldn't make good use of, I gotta say.

Pandora is basically a straight upgrade, I'd happily skill her up again for that leader skill. Gronia has a board change that synergizes perfectly with Parvati and is compatible with GZL. Urd is exactly what I wanted-- a water Norn with hp boost. Wetatron is buffed and way more compatible with me than LMeta since I have lots of water healers, like UmiYama, Reine, and Sun Quan. Chester would give my Skuld team skill bind immunity and useful poison mitigation.

But I wanted Claire most and she's the one sure thing as long as you have the MP for it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Moogs Parfait on August 06, 2015, 11:38:03 PM
Ok so the only way one should be allowed to repeatedly roll against better judgement on the suffering dragon is if there is live blogging/streaming and alcohol involved.
 
Just saying.

I have near 50 stones I got for free, but a shit internet, still I will try to do this for you all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on August 06, 2015, 11:41:47 PM
YEAH SHES KINDA EXACTLY WHY I SAID 'don't do that'

5 cd meta for dark is now 'literally just use beach claire.'

hanzo is fucking dead basically

I really hope that this isn't a thing that repeats in the future and kind of fucking glad she's only limited time, because jesus




oh also hope you didn't roll endlessly for a claire and get one

we released a free one that's way better

also @thaws: haku system

Vamp and normal claire is ded but hanzo still is good for working with haku or ronia at least.
300k mp isn't what I'd call free though, still yeah everyone who rolled enough gf is guaranteed the best dark heartbreaker out there. trance is probably thrilled :V
I'd be more fine with this if when they add 3rd types to valkyries they also make their ls more relevant. :| come on dark healer lead pls?

beach pandora/ a.haku*3 Diza / beach pandora??
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Post by: commandercool on August 06, 2015, 11:57:41 PM
Oh shit I hope Gungho doesn't start rolling out more strictly better Valkyries. I love Reine, I will not replace her.
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Post by: Jq1790 on August 07, 2015, 12:07:51 AM
Oh shit I hope Gungho doesn't start rolling out more strictly better Valkyries. I love Reine, I will not replace her.
Well it's be Reine still anyway if so, so is it TECHNICALLY replacing?  =p
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on August 07, 2015, 12:23:56 AM
Valkyrie Reine and Super Robot Maker

God, Healer, Machine type
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Post by: Chaore on August 07, 2015, 01:11:24 AM
Vamp and normal claire is ded but hanzo still is good for working with haku or ronia at least.
300k mp isn't what I'd call free though, still yeah everyone who rolled enough gf is guaranteed the best dark heartbreaker out there. trance is probably thrilled :V
I'd be more fine with this if when they add 3rd types to valkyries they also make their ls more relevant. :| come on dark healer lead pls?

mitsuhide

300k mp is really the main thing as jp non-whales are fukt when they shelled for shiva dora hype

NA, i imagine anyone whos old or rolled enough is gonna toss their mp straight at claire, the timings too perfect

i'm not lying when i say hanzo is completely rekt atm, and it's really fucking sad after that very brief very good buff to him ;;
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Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2015, 01:12:20 AM
Well it's be Reine still anyway if so, so is it TECHNICALLY replacing?  =p

Given that I'd have to re-hypermax her, I'd call that a resounding yes.

Besides, for day-to-day use I'd much rather have a cool paladin lady than a swimsuit lady.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 01:50:52 AM
mitsuhide

300k mp is really the main thing as jp non-whales are fukt when they shelled for shiva dora hype

NA, i imagine anyone whos old or rolled enough is gonna toss their mp straight at claire, the timings too perfect

i'm not lying when i say hanzo is completely rekt atm, and it's really fucking sad after that very brief very good buff to him ;;

I'm all too pleased to get Claire (and I'm willing to make some very bad selling decisions to get her if need be), simply because I just never got into the Hanzo hype. Sure he's good and all, but I've never been able to get over his lower-than-shit-tier HP that holds him back so much.

On the other hand! He's validated by running as a sub on a Claire team! Having 2.25x HP takes away some of that sting.
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Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2015, 02:01:20 AM
Ugh, today's Star Vault was awful. A full third of my runs dropped no +eggs at all. Just no luck lately in PAD.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 02:03:16 AM
I've decided to abstain from Star Vaults for as long as possible now. 3x normals is just way better and absolutely free. I got about as much running that for a couple days as I did blowing a ton of stones on SV. That and my SV luck has just been horrible these past couple times, so I'd just rather not.
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Post by: Chaore on August 07, 2015, 02:06:00 AM
I'm all too pleased to get Claire (and I'm willing to make some very bad selling decisions to get her if need be), simply because I just never got into the Hanzo hype. Sure he's good and all, but I've never been able to get over his lower-than-shit-tier HP that holds him back so much.

On the other hand! He's validated by running as a sub on a Claire team! Having 2.25x HP takes away some of that sting.

Yeah, in short, that's why i think mitsuhide will be the more chosen alternative for haku/ronia boarding. Mitsuhide has similar attack and better hp in the end, even if he's longer, and enhances. Claire combination just makes Hanzo the harder choice to make as an overall. His awakenings are better for rows too.

Claire/Hanzo shenanigans are legit though since you can legit choose 'why not fucking three 5cd changes BV'

I'm just sad because hanzo really does feel invalidated as a whole and if they're doing that to the most popular ninja

I don't  want to think about what awaits the rest after the disrespect they were shown on the earlier buff (usage I've gotten of said buffs aside)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 02:09:20 AM
Well, you still have to get Mitsuhide to begin with, so there's that too. So if you have Hanzo and not Mitsuhide you may as well run him with Claire unless you really need more HP or something.
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Post by: Suikama on August 07, 2015, 02:21:28 AM
I... kinda of want sexy Awilda

Should't be too hard to get a 4 star right? .___.
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Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2015, 02:26:25 AM
I've decided to abstain from Star Vaults for as long as possible now. 3x normals is just way better and absolutely free. I got about as much running that for a couple days as I did blowing a ton of stones on SV. That and my SV luck has just been horrible these past couple times, so I'd just rather not.

I had to make a call there, and I made that call that unless boosted normals becomes relatively common I'm going to stay the course on Star Vault. And they very well may become relatively common, in which case I'll probably stop doing Star Vault completely. But I felt so burned by that last godfest that I'm basically throwing away stones out of (self) spite because using them on anything else feels better than doing that again any time soon.
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Post by: Chaore on August 07, 2015, 03:03:37 AM
I... kinda of want sexy Awilda

Should't be too hard to get a 4 star right? .___.

five million mini leis shall curse you

unless you write in thread 'plz spare me lei-sama'
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Post by: Aoshi-shi on August 07, 2015, 03:58:26 AM
RIP three stones but finallyyyyyy
(http://i.imgur.com/MWJL0Ca.png)
SV liked giving me absolutely nothing or RCV eggs, which I had already maxed out last time SV was around.

I am ready for that *  \o/
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 07, 2015, 04:02:42 AM
Aha. 53 +eggs for an hour of my time and two stones. +7 HP eggs went to LZL and hypermaxed him. The rest went to Sakuya. Which somehow included +25 RCV eggs.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 07, 2015, 05:10:21 AM
RIP three stones but finallyyyyyy
(http://i.imgur.com/MWJL0Ca.png)
SV liked giving me absolutely nothing or RCV eggs, which I had already maxed out last time SV was around.

I am ready for that *  \o/

yeeeee boi
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Post by: Chaore on August 07, 2015, 05:16:00 AM
Well, you still have to get Mitsuhide to begin with, so there's that too. So if you have Hanzo and not Mitsuhide you may as well run him with Claire unless you really need more HP or something.

oh also on this

this concurrence of events is actually also less probable than the opposite is also my problem- Hanzo goes on 3x less and all. But yeah, in that case- he still has use, but I'm really not liking the direction this is heading in the end.
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Post by: trancehime on August 07, 2015, 06:15:18 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/NwoXjht.png)

uh 10x plus eggs is kind of broken
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Post by: Thaws on August 07, 2015, 07:14:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/NwoXjht.png)

uh 10x plus eggs is kind of broken

can confirm.

this beats everything. stamina-wise. time-wise.

thanks gungho.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 07, 2015, 07:56:39 AM
Beach Claire pretty much makes my Pandora team a reality rofl.

Pandora/Pandora/Beach Claire/New!Persephone/Demon Hadar or Grape Dragon/Pandora = Way too many rows and enough skillboosts to make use of said rows.

Also, PSA, challenge dungeons are up but they seem to be challenge dungeons 1 but they also seem to be giving out challenge 10 rewards. My Horus is sad. :(
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 08:14:25 AM
>10x plus eggs

Are you fucking serious

Why the fuck should we put any effort into anything ever again when that exists

Like for real spending stones on SV looks like such a tremendous waste in hindsight now

I mean it'll probably be months upon months before that gets here but dear god
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 07, 2015, 08:18:47 AM
Like for real spending stones on SV looks like such a tremendous waste in hindsight now

I mean it'll probably be months upon months before that gets here but dear god

between x3 normals and x10 descends SV is a relic of the past it seems.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 09:05:29 AM
Well, all the more reason to set it aside for good, then. I'll just take advantage of 3x normals for now.
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Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2015, 12:33:15 PM
Ha ha what. How is 10x distributed? Is it another all-event-long thing?
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Post by: trancehime on August 07, 2015, 12:44:11 PM
Ha ha what. How is 10x distributed? Is it another all-event-long thing?

Yes, it's 10x Plus Egg in Descend for the whole event.

Zeus Descended in Zeus Challenge gives guaranteed 4 plus eggs. For 50 stamina. It is so dumb. It's comical.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 01:28:45 PM
Is Zeus descends the most efficient one for this, or just the easiest one? I know lots of descends have more than 5 floors but typically those have more minibosses that obviously drop nothing.
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Post by: trancehime on August 07, 2015, 01:38:14 PM
Is Zeus descends the most efficient one for this, or just the easiest one? I know lots of descends have more than 5 floors but typically those have more minibosses that obviously drop nothing.

If you have the most optimal speedfarming team, Zeus Descended is the most efficient one when it is available. Otherwise, Descended Carnival is the next best bet with 5 plus eggs for 50 stamina, it is however much slower than Zeus Descended.

Poverty options would be Hera-Sowilo and Tengu-Master, maybe Hera-Is.

This is Kosuke's variant (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUhrryZku0) which is Goemon + 3 Rodins + 1 UVO Tengu with a friend Goemon. Push buttons win, in an hour he get approximately 240 + eggs.

Some whales will use ShivaDragon + Goemon, or some variants thereof.

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Post by: Suikama on August 07, 2015, 01:57:22 PM
wait what how does that team work? it looks like he got totally lucky with a heart orb skyfall before zeus

e: wait you can goemon active even at 1HP now?

i swear you couldn't when he came out because I tried an all goemon team for farming and it wouldn't work...
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Post by: Dorakyura on August 07, 2015, 02:03:24 PM
wait what how does that team work? it looks like he got totally lucky with a heart orb skyfall before zeus

e: wait you can goemon active even at 1HP now?

i swear you couldn't when he came out because I tried an all goemon team for farming and it wouldn't work...

They changed that a while ago, same goes for Angel Luci
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 07, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Yeah, the actives that reduce HP to 1 can still be used as long as the secondary requirement can still function (i.e. the only way you can't Morning Star twice in a row now is if the entire board is already hearts, which...probably shouldn't happen :V)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 03:10:57 PM
Why do you need a speed farming team if this lasts for an entire event :V
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Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
If you bought like 1200 stones you could run it nonstop for the entire event, stopping only to sleep while paying a poor person to play it for you during that time. Then you could hypermax like 150 things.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 03:25:32 PM
Oh, right. Whales. Y'all are nuts.
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Post by: Thaws on August 07, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
Why do you need a speed farming team if this lasts for an entire event :V

Zeus challenge only lasts till Monday
Descend Carnival is always there though
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Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2015, 05:38:16 PM
I assumed it applies to the Zeus technical. Even then, you'd have to be going nuts on stones to need speed farming over a period of days, wouldn't you? I guess it depends a little on how busy you are.
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Post by: Thaws on August 07, 2015, 07:55:12 PM
For non-stoning people like me, I guess it is better to do Mercury for better exp and also 4-7 +eggs as opposed to 4 +eggs at zeus.
It is annoying to farm however, I can do it consistently with I&I but it's painfully slow. I still need to figure out a cat team to farm it I guess but there's too much green hate there.

Not sure if anyone tried the technical zeus yet to confirm, but yeah when money is not an issue I guess people to want to get their hypers done asap.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 07, 2015, 10:12:37 PM
idk man I quickly and consistently demolish Merc with my pure green Parvati team :v
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Post by: Chaore on August 07, 2015, 10:24:58 PM
how to defeat zeus mercury with a green team:

bring a fucking bind clearer green has like 12
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Post by: Thaws on August 07, 2015, 11:01:10 PM
how to defeat zeus mercury with a green team:

bring a fucking bind clearer green has like 12

Well there's actually two green pre-empt binds.
But yea last time I just got heart trolled pretty badly on Apollo but otherwise it's very doable. And I can actually reach over 23k hp to tank a Kraken hit now compared to last time I tried so I can even not bring a bind clear and just stall the bind away.
Anyways I'm using A Haku and it seems pretty safe except having to stall 10 turns on dark shield dragons it's fine. She resists like everything in the dungeon anyways.

Anyways yea I got like 6+ in a run for 50 stam, if you're not stoning, merc is awesome.

edit: nvm I forgot I have isis now so all the binds are nothing now. lol I just got binded on apollo like twice. Green and devil bind. isis 3 cd op
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Post by: commandercool on August 07, 2015, 11:34:45 PM
What did I do to PAD that it hates me this much? I just did Challenge 7 with Ra and got skill locked through my 80% resist again. That makes like six or seven times in a row or some fucking insane horseshit. Not that it mattered that much, I still won because Ra is gud, Thoth is weak, and Sopdet is generous, but even so. PAD is out to get me at every conceivable turn lately.

(Obviously that's facetious, my skillups have been half-decent lately at least.)
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Post by: Suikama on August 08, 2015, 12:05:08 AM
oh my god i have 21 angelits fuck this shit

someone take this trash off my hands


also next event is here + challenge dungeons BUT STILL NO ISIS

salt levels are reaching critical levels
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 08, 2015, 02:28:00 AM
Antonio said a few weeks, didn't he? Calm down Suikama. Awoken Isis and Awoken Anubis took a little bit in JP too, remember? :V

Also, I can't murder Cleopatra in Challenge lvl 7 for the life of me, gfdi I need that flampy game.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 08, 2015, 02:35:01 AM
Antonio said a few weeks, didn't he? Calm down Suikama. Awoken Isis and Awoken Anubis took a little bit in JP too, remember? :V

Speaking of Antonio!

(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/11828650_1115717868456804_2673001397550154226_n.png?oh=ee6b1fe74d353e0846c0ba1a7eb03048&oe=563CDAC2)

Be there or be []. (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/1115717868456804/?type=1)
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Post by: Suikama on August 08, 2015, 03:15:10 AM
wow so apparently Dmeta will now boost hp by 1.35x?

so she has 1.35x HP, 4x ATK, and 35% shield? holy shit so like an effective 2.8x HP on shield turns

plus i pretty much have a perfect dmeta team lol. Claire, Hanzo, AND Pandora. I just need Haku

and I guess beach claire

oh wait i have durga too lol


biggest problem is I have 0 Dmeta friends. People used to use her on my list but they've all jumped ship mostly to Kali
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Post by: commandercool on August 08, 2015, 03:40:49 AM
I'm also on the cusp of having a good Dmeta team. Hanzo, Finn (worse now since he's not a god), Pandora, Loki, and Durga. I also have Lil' Haku, who might be worth it for how great her skill is even if her stats and awakenings are rough.

I'm just finding myself increasingly uninterested in teams where the leaders don't have orbchange abilities. Metatron's shield is great and all, but I would never consider bringing two shields on most teams, so being forced to kind of sucks. Maybe I'm just being picky, but that's why I use Ra/Kali instead of Ra/Ra. Maybe a Metatron/Pandora team would work? Probably not, but it might be worth trying.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on August 08, 2015, 03:44:31 AM
Mini Rose getting an Ult...will she have God type? Will people abandon Big Rose?  I guess Rosa Grande is also getting a 3rd type
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Post by: Chaore on August 08, 2015, 03:46:58 AM
Mini Rose getting an Ult...will she have God type? Will people abandon Big Rose?  I guess Rosa Grande is also getting a 3rd type

Oh god.

i just processed that this might also mean she gets -more awakenings-.

please, no, i remember the heartbreak of xmas rem

(I'll stream it if suffering happens)
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Post by: Suikama on August 08, 2015, 03:53:18 AM
inb4 Triple Light Row or SB


on another note, i should make a new sig since Isis finally has a fully optimized team thanks to Hermes
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Post by: Chaore on August 08, 2015, 03:57:23 AM
inb4 Triple Light Row or SB

triple light row i'd almost be okay with just because she's still offensively stacked

any sb or support awakenings on her though will make her way stronger and versatile though which

is both good and bad



wait this means mini chiyo ulti is possible too oh god why didn't i roll for one
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 08, 2015, 06:53:36 AM
how to defeat zeus mercury with a green team:

bring a fucking bind clearer green has like 12

awoken ceres basically makes zeus-mercury dumpster tier in difficulty for Green teams.
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Post by: Calamity on August 08, 2015, 09:05:26 AM
Heya, I usually don't post in here because I talk to friends about pad stuff but I'm looking for anyone with Awoken Ceres so I can walk through Mercury  :derp:

331,737,355 is my code, I'll have Awoken Ceres up myself for the day and accept anyone who wants to add me.

Notable leaders: Ronia, Dmeta, Lmeta, ACeres, Haku, Athena, Urd, I usually have Ronia and Athena up.
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Post by: trancehime on August 08, 2015, 10:14:50 AM
dmeta's hp buff is x1.35

holy mother of god
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 08, 2015, 02:51:13 PM
Did DMeta just become legit again?

I do think so.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: triangles on August 08, 2015, 03:09:16 PM
Heya, I usually don't post in here because I talk to friends about pad stuff but I'm looking for anyone with Awoken Ceres so I can walk through Mercury  :derp:

331,737,355 is my code, I'll have Awoken Ceres up myself for the day and accept anyone who wants to add me.

Notable leaders: Ronia, Dmeta, Lmeta, ACeres, Haku, Athena, Urd, I usually have Ronia and Athena up.
I sent you an addification, I'll keep ACeres up in the 2nd slot today.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 08, 2015, 03:24:50 PM
... it's a sad day when DMeta gets to walk around with more HP than One True Dog.

Also, Zhao Yun struck me again, by needing to hit level 70 to evolve instead of 50. Fucker.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 08, 2015, 03:35:11 PM
Well don't forget that DMeta is an HP conditional LS too, which needs your hp to be under 80%. So realistically your working hp is still 20% less than it would seem to be. This just makes it so being at <80% doesn't necessarily put you at OHKO range in a meta that perpetually has fucked DMeta over by random full HP recovery pre-emptives and ever stronger attacks. DMeta since has kind of fallen to sub utility status, which is kind of sad considering her massive power and potential when used properly. That and as time has progressed, she's gained a lot more utility subs to work with too, which is nice. DIza is gonna be a great friend here now as long as you don't get her recovery awakenings.
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Post by: commandercool on August 08, 2015, 03:46:51 PM
Did DMeta just become legit again?

I do think so.

You think so? I never played her before, so I don't know how she used to work. How much of her damage is row-based. Can she kill minibosses without rows? On paper she's never seemed great to me because she can't really take hits and she only has room for so many orbchangers, which means she can only do rows much, but not all, of the time. But yeah, I'm probably just real misinformed.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 08, 2015, 04:18:02 PM
DMeta is fueled by rows, yes, but since there have been lots of new developments in the meta I'm sure you could get by running TPA on her, too. But 16x is a totally respectable multiplier for standard killing, too.

DMeta used to be EXTREMELY touchy in the past, since she was limited to attackers, which had shitty HP and were mostly REM only. After her ult her sub pool expanded big time, but with her LS being what it is it made her still way too hard to use in descends.

She's always been a glass cannon. This new development makes her less so and makes her viable again, I feel. There are a lot more orb changers for her to use now than there were in the past, and with her new upgrade here you can even get by with Hanzo's shit HP.

As far as her being limited to rows, imagine running her with new ult persephone, awoken Haku, and so on. Massive double tpas and such! Worth a shot.
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Post by: Chaore on August 08, 2015, 04:38:54 PM
You think so? I never played her before, so I don't know how she used to work. How much of her damage is row-based. Can she kill minibosses without rows? On paper she's never seemed great to me because she can't really take hits and she only has room for so many orbchangers, which means she can only do rows much, but not all, of the time. But yeah, I'm probably just real misinformed.

she'll be dropped because people will get a heart skyfall, call game rigged, and go back to pandora


in seriousness the hp buff will make her able to do things like c10 i feel, but she won't regain her former popularity because people will be pretty blunt in saying that she's too much hassle for a x4 lead

i don't honestly ever think she really stopped being viable after the ultimate so much as a poorer choice in a game that's long outgrown her (for good reason), a lot of people are going to look at her the same as they look at heroes right now 'why the hell should i think when i can catstet/a.ra/a.shiva/chinasystem/becomeanornslave' and never consider the possibilities

especially when they are initiallly faced with the fact the game was made to actually -challenge- her now and they will have to consider 'when, how, and what' to use, and maybe even to consider playing her in a manner that involves actually taking more than one hit HOLY SHIT especially now that she might as well be equivalent to a weird as shit tank team

dark metatrons problem is ultimately the playerbase's expectations and long-term memory- they'll remember her as a brainless team and expect that, and drop her when she's not that
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 08, 2015, 05:01:27 PM
I've always seen her as anything but brainless. Whereas a lot of teams' strats lie in combo number or color matching, DMeta is all about resource management. You need to know precisely how much damage you can sustain and recover at any given time or you are literally fucked with her. She has gained a lot of resources in recent times, but a lot of descends have counters that outright fuck her over, like enemies that refill your HP or enemies that just straight up punch harder than you can handle while under your damage threshold of HP. That or dark absorb. Fuck dark absorb.

So it's less a matter of worrying about being able to punch hard enough, because there aren't many things that can survive a head on burst with DMeta-- it's a matter of being able to manage the gimmicks and keep the momentum going consistently because before now, there weren't many hits you could afford to take.
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Post by: commandercool on August 08, 2015, 05:12:30 PM
16x is a number I've never really played with, so I don't know exactly what to expect for round-to-round damage from it.

At any rate, she sounds significantly different than anything I've used so far. Given that I already have the actual lady herself and Durga maxed already, and I probably want to max her orbchange buddies anyway, I might as well make her team and try it. I don't expect to use it often, but it might be fun because it's new.
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Post by: Chaore on August 08, 2015, 05:37:39 PM
She has gained a lot of resources in recent times, but a lot of descends have counters that outright fuck her over, like enemies that refill your HP or enemies that just straight up punch harder than you can handle while under your damage threshold of HP. That or dark absorb. Fuck dark absorb.

She has gained resources to deal with those things in the end.

The main reason hp refill enemies were a counter to her in the first place is you had to stop simply blowing everything up and consider how to take the next hit and go from there. Even before she obtained her ultimate, Dark Metatron was easily capable of defeating Athena- where almost every enemy had a hp refill, and the first enemy would destroy you before you could take a hit. She didn't even need a majorly changed team- she just needed to rethink said team a little to deal.

In short, most of those counters were 'counter's because people still wanted to just punch them to death. Those are what changed Dmeta from a team that was absurdly powerful and could easily do most content in the game almost brainlessly to something that required thinking. And even then, a lot of it took a while to fully start unloading itself into the game. Dmeta dominated for a long time and people will expect her to dominate in the same fashion is what i'm getting at- I'm worried, and expecting, that players will expect the early ages of DMeta where she dominated in that fashion, despite the fact the game has changed thoroughly.

So it's less a matter of worrying about being able to punch hard enough, because there aren't many things that can survive a head on burst with DMeta--

This is really my main worry in terms of actual balance instead of playerbase, though. I'm not entirely sure how much of the game falls like dominoes to Dmeta nearly as much anymore due to number game- and for content like the rushes and C10, I'm almost certain you'll have to drop that mentality immediately.

I'm just not sure how impressive Dmeta's actual firepower is in the grand scheme of the game anymore. Especially as it has to endlessly deal with the existence of cards like A.Indians and A. Egypts slowly appearing more and more.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 08, 2015, 06:52:12 PM
I've always seen her as anything but brainless. Whereas a lot of teams' strats lie in combo number or color matching, DMeta is all about resource management.

[...]
So it's less a matter of worrying about being able to punch hard enough, because there aren't many things that can survive a head on burst with DMeta-- it's a matter of being able to manage the gimmicks and keep the momentum going consistently because before now, there weren't many hits you could afford to take.

Basically applicable to Purin as well. If I'm allowed to reach the boss with skills up, that boss better be prepared for a 15+ million burst.

... that said, I can probably afford to use Purin's enhance for killing trash mobs since Apocalypse+Valkyrie+LZL is already so overkill.

Unfortunately all the +eggs in the world can only carry me so far with 1/4 RCV. To have a hope of clearing any more descends, I would probably need a skill maxed Fuu and a lot of luck in orb drops. God forbid a gravity happens.
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Post by: Calamity on August 08, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
I sent you an addification, I'll keep ACeres up in the 2nd slot today.
Thanks! Now I just have to check repeatedly every hour thanks to the massive rank difference. _(⌒(_'ω' )_
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 08, 2015, 08:27:28 PM
She has gained resources to deal with those things in the end.

The main reason hp refill enemies were a counter to her in the first place is you had to stop simply blowing everything up and consider how to take the next hit and go from there. Even before she obtained her ultimate, Dark Metatron was easily capable of defeating Athena- where almost every enemy had a hp refill, and the first enemy would destroy you before you could take a hit. She didn't even need a majorly changed team- she just needed to rethink said team a little to deal.

In short, most of those counters were 'counter's because people still wanted to just punch them to death. Those are what changed Dmeta from a team that was absurdly powerful and could easily do most content in the game almost brainlessly to something that required thinking. And even then, a lot of it took a while to fully start unloading itself into the game. Dmeta dominated for a long time and people will expect her to dominate in the same fashion is what i'm getting at- I'm worried, and expecting, that players will expect the early ages of DMeta where she dominated in that fashion, despite the fact the game has changed thoroughly.

And it has changed thoroughly, yeah. That's why I feel she kind of needed the sub pool expansion and the HP buff to keep her validity in the meta alive. And yeah, I'm aware those were counters to keep her from demolishing, but in most cases, especially back then, it was hella fucking hard to come up with anything better that worked for her because her best subs were so REM-specific and you were kinda boned unless you had them. That's why I stopped maining her after a while-- I realized I wasn't clearing any descends with her because I lacked the resources needed to make her work.



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This is really my main worry in terms of actual balance instead of playerbase, though. I'm not entirely sure how much of the game falls like dominoes to Dmeta nearly as much anymore due to number game- and for content like the rushes and C10, I'm almost certain you'll have to drop that mentality immediately.

I'm just not sure how impressive Dmeta's actual firepower is in the grand scheme of the game anymore. Especially as it has to endlessly deal with the existence of cards like A.Indians and A. Egypts slowly appearing more and more.

True, it's easier to achieve monstrous damage now from newer cards. In fact, she probably doesn't even hold a candle to a lot of stuff now. But she does have a TON of resources to work with now since she can use attackers AND gods since her ult, and her HP means she can stand to take more hits. Combine that with a DIza sub and you've got a much less glass cannon build and a much more tank build that has a lot of potential, especially since you'll be running with a lot of resist capability to keep you alive.

Meanwhile we've had ult Pandora, new ult Persephone, devil!Haku, and so on come into the game too, which can give rows and orbs for days. With just those three you'll be sitting at 10 rows which is a flat 100% more damage across the board, putting her at a respectable 32x damage (which is still further enhanced by DMeta's active). Still not up with the best of the meta, but you also don't have to fulfill any other requirements than "make rows" as long as you're in HP range, unlike AIndians who need heart combos or combo count, or AEgyptians who require matching or combos. (And even then comparing an ult to an Awoken is kind of an unfair comparison because Awokens are kind of ridiculously great by default and require a lot more work to put together). DMeta has always been more of a "get hurt and GO GO GO KILL OR BE KILLED" kind of style and I'm happy they're taking steps to make her more usable in that sense, especially since I've not used her as a lead for ages (even though she's a fantastic sub on many parts!).

I can see her being able to handle rushes and c10 now, and I never would have even thought she could before. Just balance your orb changers and stat sticks and go for it. Thinking harder about it, putting two DIza on your team would take away some of your punching power, but at the same time, even without +99 HP, they'll straight up give you 17151 HP at max level with DMeta's HP multiplier, and a perpetual 35% resist (45% to dark with DIza's resist awakenings? I dunno how the math works between skills and awakes.) making it last even longer. That's insane-- back in the day when I mained DMeta, I struggled to have that much HP with my whole team (of course I can top it NOW but yeah), and there it is with two units out of six. And taking that into account, maybe having her recovery awakenings won't be as disastrous as I originally thought-- that's a LOT of HP to cover.

There's a lot of potential here if you play your cards right. Especially since you'll be working with Osiris-tier HP, who can handle stuff like that with 12.25x damage and TPAs. (granted, he also has huge recovery capabilities, too, and you don't want that on DMeta, but still).
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Post by: Chaore on August 08, 2015, 11:02:51 PM
There's a lot of potential here if you play your cards right. Especially since you'll be working with Osiris-tier HP, who can handle stuff like that with 12.25x damage and TPAs. (granted, he also has huge recovery capabilities, too, and you don't want that on DMeta, but still).

Yeah this is where I kind of got the idea of her potentially becoming a 'really weird tank team' now instead of normal.

Due to the hp conditional being hideously biased in her favor, i think she might even -want- rcv now because her hit tanking range is so high, so she can just take all the hits and get dropped down for her next turn anyway, instead of the old style of 'get hit and you're done' play.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 09, 2015, 12:26:27 AM
Hmm, that's true-- especially so since with the setup I mentioned, you'd be perpetually taking less damage as it is. It'd be a worthy investment as long as you are sure you can take the next hit, yeah. But at this point, you probably should be able to unless you're talking c10 damage or just straight up fuckoff attack damage.
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Post by: Suikama on August 09, 2015, 12:49:12 AM
i choked on lv 6

someone teach me how to not be bad
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 09, 2015, 12:54:17 AM
Although I am now busy and my phone doesn't want to connect to my computer for some reason, thanks to Matsy's Awoken meimei I cleared challenge 7.

...After 3 stones, attributed to getting heart starved on masks despite clearing 2/3s for the board, Matsy's meimei getting bound by thoth and my hand slipping when I was going to do a healing combo.

Still though, Awoken Horus is now Hypermax - my first hypermax, yay~!

(gibe asterisk pls)

@Edit:

(http://imgur.com/6US5kLR.jpg)

gibe asterisk pls
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 09, 2015, 01:37:53 AM
i choked on lv 6

someone teach me how to not be bad

(http://i.imgur.com/VaZod2k.jpg)
(seriously kirin's been my lv6 killer forever)


Meanwhile after a shameful 5-stone of Lv9, I no-stoned Lv8.

A no-RCV stage.

With Awoken Parvati.

Who NEEDS hearts to work.

God bless this majestic golden goddess.
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Post by: Suikama on August 09, 2015, 01:42:26 AM
lol i can't match 4 atts with izanami time slow i cant even make 2 rows with 4 time awakenings ripppppp
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 09, 2015, 02:09:05 AM
someone teach me how to not be bad

(http://i.imgur.com/sp3Ix7J.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FQEfWJG.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/fNhrSA9.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/a0GFKzS.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/GaDpgNn.jpg)
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Post by: commandercool on August 09, 2015, 02:20:05 AM
Cleared everything up through eight, now I just need to decide if I want to try nine. I don't really have a great setup for ten. Gabriel can do it, but it would take some luck and possibly a couple stones, and I don't feel like it. Guess I should to nine with Ra those. I got nothing else particular going on tonight, PAD-wise.
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Post by: Chaore on August 09, 2015, 06:46:25 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rWN8l2RH7uo/Vcb2v_fqpHI/AAAAAAAACZI/9OQtCRlnLRI/w385-h684-no/15%2B-%2B1)

mfw garyou tensei
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Post by: Suikama on August 09, 2015, 06:51:23 AM
shoulda brought poison :V
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 09, 2015, 12:20:39 PM
I have everything done except for 10 now and it has the prize I want most. But after yesterday's fiasco with 9 I have no idea how to go about it.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 09, 2015, 02:38:06 PM
I have everything done except for 10 now and it has the prize I want most. But after yesterday's fiasco with 9 I have no idea how to go about it.
(http://i.imgur.com/sp3Ix7J.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GaDpgNn.jpg)
you can do it
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 09, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
No, I seriously can't. I could potentially push through the first few floors with Awoken Ceres, but then Hera-Ur will be a completely unpassable wall.
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Post by: commandercool on August 09, 2015, 03:59:11 PM
~500 stamina into Poring Tower (half of that on double drops), zero Cu Chu skillups. Good thing I only need one more or I would've ripped my phone in half by now.  :(
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Post by: Chaore on August 09, 2015, 04:43:03 PM
shoulda brought poison :V

Karin isn't actually a huge problem- i actually just didn't get any fire orbs for a turn, and because kagutsuchi changes hearts i couldn't use him before garyou-huh time- if I did, she'dve been in green and I could send her packing.

Now, Fagan.

He's going to suck. A lot.

No, I seriously can't. I could potentially push through the first few floors with Awoken Ceres, but then Hera-Ur will be a completely unpassable wall.

Hera-Ur sucks, yeah. I could use minerva to get my way through most of the dungeon as well, but when I hit her it's going to get dicey really damn fast.

But i'm going to do it. I'm gonna 0-stone this entire challenge dungeon set.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 09, 2015, 04:58:17 PM
It should be doable with Minerva though, especially if you can pack Ronia and Lu Bu or something.

As for myself, I'm just gonna pass. I'll be able to max Osiris in quick terms but probably not before this event ends, unless I can skillmax him in quick time since wood cat starts tomorrow. But even then I'm not at all confident in my combo skills yet so I think c10 for me is just a flop.
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Post by: Chaore on August 09, 2015, 06:14:36 PM
It should be doable with Minerva though, especially if you can pack Ronia and Lu Bu or something.

Yup, it's definitely doable I'd say. It's gonna be rough.

I need to beat fagan first anyway, though.
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Post by: Edible on August 09, 2015, 06:27:54 PM
Just hit him really hard in the face.

This is the best plan.
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Post by: Thaws on August 09, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/iSFNaM0.jpg)

yolo roll

I thought I wanted gronia or claire or something but then I realized urd is probably most useful to my ever growing blue pool. To trick the desire sensor you must first trick yourself.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 09, 2015, 11:33:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/iSFNaM0.jpg)

I thought I didn't want to bow down to the norns, but then legs happened

That said, I've been hearing things like 1/4 gold rate from this machine, what is this nonsense about good rates
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Post by: trancehime on August 10, 2015, 01:49:16 AM
That said, I've been hearing things like 1/4 gold rate from this machine, what is this nonsense about good rates

i went 7/43 so far for golds, but no 6* and 7*

on the other hand, I spent some MP and did this:

(http://i.imgur.com/YFN9wE8.png)
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 01:50:46 AM
>already +297

tance pls
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Post by: trancehime on August 10, 2015, 01:58:12 AM
>already +297

tance pls

beautiful beach bae's allure is too stronk
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Post by: Suikama on August 10, 2015, 05:01:12 AM
reddit is just such a great website right trance :trollface:

rip
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Post by: trancehime on August 10, 2015, 06:31:10 AM
reddit is just such a great website right trance :trollface:

TIL reddit's definition of doxxing is super loose
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 10, 2015, 06:39:05 AM
there are reasons why i call reddit irredeemable trash in general
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Post by: Chaore on August 10, 2015, 07:28:18 AM
TIL reddit's definition of doxxing is bullshit and does not grasp the concept

fixed that for you
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Post by: trancehime on August 10, 2015, 02:18:04 PM
problem has been resolved thankfully.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on August 10, 2015, 03:17:02 PM
Would someone tweet to the pad people in Japanese that we want Nyadra riders please
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 04:43:54 PM
Yohoho, get fucked lv9.

That just leaves lv10 (probably not possible for me) and lv8 (should be able to beat it, uh... maybe).
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Post by: Chaore on August 10, 2015, 06:10:50 PM
That just leaves lv10 (probably not possible for me) and lv8 (should be able to beat it, uh... maybe).

If you did 9, 8 is a cakewalk. Foogon is more dangerous than anything in there.

The only real threat is Noah, who you have a type advantage against compared to me, so you're mostly fine.
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 07:02:14 PM
The only issue really is Gabriel.

Bastet ain't bindproof and a 5-turn bind on a team with only one option for clearing binds (Perseus) is bad news.  I'd basically need to get super lucky and hope A) Parvati skill is up B) Perseus skill is up C) 12 fire/water orbs are on the board.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 10, 2015, 07:15:54 PM
Just lead with Parvati. It sounds super counterproductive with her LS but I swear it's so doable. She makes pretty much everything a joke.
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Post by: Chaore on August 10, 2015, 07:33:35 PM
The only issue really is Gabriel.

Bastet ain't bindproof and a 5-turn bind on a team with only one option for clearing binds (Perseus) is bad news.  I'd basically need to get super lucky and hope A) Parvati skill is up B) Perseus skill is up C) 12 fire/water orbs are on the board.

gabriel is free

Just knock him below 50% to make him waste a turn healing and take the next hit and you're home free

you can deal with his bind by basically either stalling it out by abusing his 2-turn timer and attack pattern or take one hit and wait for a ripe heart row moment

for a green team it's easy because you don't need to worry about not knocking him into heal, and with two heart makes and one fast, I doubt you'll not having the hp to avoid gabriel punch
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
Good point, I didn't even notice his HP was so low.  That should indeed be doable.
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Post by: Chaore on August 10, 2015, 08:00:13 PM
Good point, I didn't even notice his HP was so low.  That should indeed be doable.

yeah he looks scary but he's really not too bad
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 08:09:12 PM
And cleared.  Was no problem after all.

I accidentally obliterated poor innocent Gabriel when Bastet still had 2 turns left of binds.  When I got to Michael, for whatever reason she didn't get re-bound (I thought he bound both leaders?).

Regardless, hooray - another badpy to add to the collection.  I really should start spending these; I've only ever used my green ones.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 10, 2015, 08:13:01 PM
For me the only scary part was bar none the twinlits on the first floor. I don't have any big hitting actives ready on floor 1, so I had to manage to game it as hard as possible by taking advantage of Angelit's lower HP so Devilit would give me his Angrilit turn so I had time to finish him off.

From there on it was pretty easy with Parvati. Gabriel is literally the easiest angel with her since you don't need to worry about binds and the 2 turns means you should almost guaranteed have a Parv up to heal if needed (if you don't one-shot him first-- but I used him to stall).
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
Twinlits on floor 1 is basically a matter of "do I have 4 green orbs?  If yes, I win; if no, I lose".

Bastet active + no-rcv + green TPA = brainless twinlit devouring.  But since I only have 6 skill boosts, my quickest green orb changer (Perseus) only goes live on turn 2.  This is a problem that will be rectified once I get Awoken Meimei.
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Post by: Chaore on August 10, 2015, 08:35:27 PM
twinlits more like

takeru best red card fucking still even in prong cards

they got me on a mess up or two but the real issue is dealing with noah due to her massive hp and the fact she forces me to use a heart make off the bat, but from there on it was basically free as long as i didnt fuck up on one-shotting michael (i did once because i forgot he had a status shield)
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Post by: hyorinryu on August 10, 2015, 08:37:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sp3Ix7J.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FQEfWJG.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/fNhrSA9.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/a0GFKzS.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/GaDpgNn.jpg)

Like this? :V (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHhp1SkP8LY&feature=youtu.be)

Once I got to Titan, it started taking forever, so Idk if I'll upload those. I stopped recodding all togeting at light keeper I think. Just took so long.
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 08:49:16 PM
Like this? :V (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHhp1SkP8LY&feature=youtu.be)

:getdown:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 10, 2015, 08:58:27 PM
hey ccool can you put up gabe, i need to test/try a thing

Like this? :V (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHhp1SkP8LY&feature=youtu.be)

i'll make the fox only run real one day
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Post by: Edible on August 10, 2015, 10:19:08 PM
http://imgur.com/ikJWFXy

Those odds though.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 10, 2015, 10:19:58 PM
Imgur's being weird today, huh. I guess have the fullsize image instead of the thumbnail like usual. :V
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 10, 2015, 10:22:51 PM
So. Um. What's the best way to get a hold on the RGB golems now? I'm thinking of making a silly mono-golem team where everyone is unbindable, I have 30,000+ HP and a permanent 20% damage reduction, alongside 60% uptime on a 50% damage reduction. Also I'd have four of each of the RGB orb enhances because -why not-?
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 10, 2015, 10:24:41 PM
Well, Breakers is up now but I'm not sure what the drop rate on that looks like for them.

I'm told the best options otherwise are Zeus Mercury for Midgard, and Tuesday Expert otherwise.
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Post by: Suikama on August 10, 2015, 11:12:40 PM
I got fucked up by Michael in lv 8

problem is Nut has no sub att so I have to bind clear asap, but i got unlucky and just didnt have enough orbs to convert to hearts for the first two turns >___>

if only i could use isis for this hur dur hur dur gungho na
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Post by: commandercool on August 11, 2015, 12:41:57 AM
hey ccool can you put up gabe, i need to test/try a thing

He's up now if you still want him, sorry for the late response.

I got fucked up by Michael in lv 8

problem is Nut has no sub att so I have to bind clear asap, but i got unlucky and just didnt have enough orbs to convert to hearts for the first two turns >___>

As someone who runs Beyzul on my main team, yes. At one time Sun Quan didn't even have a sub-attribute and Michael was like my worst enemy ever.
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Post by: Suikama on August 11, 2015, 01:01:50 AM
fuck i should of just stoned because now i cant get lucky on floor 1 again
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Post by: trancehime on August 11, 2015, 01:55:43 AM
As if I couldn't be amazed at how fucking stupid this card is, I continue to be proven wrong at every turn that the power creep is realer than I thought

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMFrNohUcAQyBoz.png)
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 11, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
There is an update available to move NA to 8.0.4 right now in the Play Store.

For all the good and bad this entails... all the beach event assets are in it as well.

EDIT: Taiko BGMs are in as well?? I know JP just had Taiko so this could just be a really bad copypaste job but who knows
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Post by: commandercool on August 11, 2015, 12:42:04 PM
I guess now is a better time than most to try to clear Dragon Rush. I still don't really have a perfect strategy for it, anything I can bring can go wrong in a lot of places. But I have a team that should work much of the time and my brain isn't cold-addled like last time, and I have nothing better to do today. But PAD does aggressively hate me lately...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 11, 2015, 01:36:40 PM
There is an update available to move NA to 8.0.4 right now in the Play Store.

For all the good and bad this entails... all the beach event assets are in it as well.

EDIT: Taiko BGMs are in as well?? I know JP just had Taiko so this could just be a really bad copypaste job but who knows

Joy of joys, so much for the guaranteed Claire :negative:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 11, 2015, 01:46:58 PM
They're not going to fuck us out of the chance to get Claire with points.  I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 11, 2015, 02:27:45 PM
I heard they moved her into REM hell too though, exactly for the purpose of rushing the summer event over here.

(of all the things that could have been rushed.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 11, 2015, 02:43:14 PM
I heard they moved her into REM hell too though, exactly for the purpose of rushing the summer event over here.

This is speculation and we don't know this for sure.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 11, 2015, 03:09:09 PM
The 20th coin rotation for NA has been timetraveled. The following are new:

Alt. Tower to the Sky / All Attributes Needed (24/30 Stamina, Flampy)
Alt. Ocean of Heaven / All Attributes Needed (24/30 Stamina, Bubpy)
Alt. Vesta Cave / All Attributes Needed (26/32 Stamina, Woodpy)
Alt. Frozen Soil of Prosell / All Attributes Needed (26/32 Stamina, Shynpy)
Alt. Mars Crater / All Attributes Needed (26/32 Stamina, Badpy)
Alt. Jupiter, City in the Sky / All Attributes Needed (28/34 Stamina, Flampy)
Alt. Junos Island / All Attributes Needed (28/34 Stamina, Bubpy)

Alt. Starlight Sanctuary / AWOKEN SKILLS INVALID, FINAL DESTINATION (28/34 Stamina, ALL Py*)

*In order of Fire, Water, Wood, Light, Dark, the Py will show up on the respective floors as the ultra rare encounter for stages 1-5:
- King of the Gods 2 - Badpy - 10F - 34 Stamina
- Queen of the Gods 2 - Shynpy - 7F - 28 Stamina
- Goddess of War 2 - Woodpy - 7F - 28 Stamina
- Goddess of Harvest 2 - Bubpy - 7F - 28 Stamina
- Guardian Dragon of God 2 - Flampy - 7F - 28 Stamina
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 11, 2015, 03:12:20 PM
Hmm, I wonder how hard Zeus will hit? Gabriel/Bodin can pull a lot of weight without awoken skills.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 11, 2015, 03:21:10 PM
Hmm, I wonder how hard Zeus will hit? Gabriel/Bodin can pull a lot of weight without awoken skills.

Strangely enough... all the bosses on KotG2 have the same stats. The mooks however, have the stats you'd expect from Alts. I think Zeus is actually slightly weaker than regular SS, even.

One problem though, you have to get past all the other stages, and the bosses there are buffed. Minerva has 2.5M health and hits for 68,187 damage on a 2 turn cd.

also i need gabe again in like 30 minutes

EDIT: Never mind Minerva - Ceres has over 2.8M HP and hits for 97,937 damage. This makes her the single strongest Alt. enemy in the entire game, blowing Omegalodran out of the water, and I think also the strongest enemy fought in a Normal Dungeon, just about 2000 damage shy of Zaerog.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 11, 2015, 03:22:01 PM
Hmm, I wonder how hard Zeus will hit? Gabriel/Bodin can pull a lot of weight without awoken skills.

Expect it to be fuckoff attack levels of damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 11, 2015, 03:38:24 PM
More stuff: UPC has found coin Starvault in the data, but refuses to add it until official confirmation is announced.

Also, Taiko no Tatsujin may very well be coming to NA for the first time. skill up your alraunes
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on August 11, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
Pfft, like starvauly is worth any consideration anymore.  Silly game.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 11, 2015, 04:45:41 PM
Also, Taiko no Tatsujin may very well be coming to NA for the first time. skill up your alraunes

I find it weird that this is the thing I'm most excited for.

Not even because there are good cards in it or anything (there kinda aren't), but just because it's Taiko. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 11, 2015, 04:46:07 PM
I sure did want this collab a year and a half after it had anything resembling relevance, thanks guys.

Oh well, free stone/tamadra I guess?  And I bet the music's good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 11, 2015, 04:57:08 PM
How could we ever forget the best LS on the game, that does nothing but make the orb movement SFX Taiko noises?

Edit: it has Susano skillups. Count me in.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Jq1790 on August 11, 2015, 05:23:15 PM
...did they seriously name the stages in reverse order of difficulty?  Wow.  Also nothing even remotely relevant to me except if I decide to work on Alraune(and my other Dryad who I will probably never remember to evolve) so I guess it's just a stone and possible TAMA for this.  *shrug*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 11, 2015, 05:56:29 PM
Finally managed to get through Turn 1 Twinlits on challenge 8 only for Noah to completely murder me. Not even LMeta + 2500 Autheal was enough to survive.

Fucking Ark Impact, who the hell thought it was a good idea to put a -99% HP attack on a No RCV dungeon? ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 11, 2015, 05:57:29 PM
The same people who expected you to bring heart makers, I suppose. Super unfair.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 11, 2015, 06:29:48 PM
BUT MUH COMPOSITION

(i'm just joking if it wasn't clear)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 11, 2015, 06:46:32 PM
As someone who cleared Challenge 8 with Raaaaa, it seems to me that you're supposed to recover from the gravity proactively by mashing the "destroy her!" button the second her sprite pops up on screen.
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Post by: Chaore on August 11, 2015, 06:52:26 PM
./muffled takeru best red card in the distance in regards to noah
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 11, 2015, 07:13:47 PM
As someone who cleared Challenge 8 with Raaaaa, it seems to me that you're supposed to recover from the gravity proactively by mashing the "destroy her!" button the second her sprite pops up on screen.

Most of my damage is fire and noah is water. Even at full power damage (AKA 1 TPA + 8 combos with active popped and 5 colors matched) I only got her down to 50%.

...Granted, my team isn't exactly offensive-oriented. But that's what happens when I DON'T HAVE AN LKALI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT

/cries in corner.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 11, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
I'd love to be able to give you my superfluous Kali, but I can't.

Honestly I think a decent chunk of that is fucking type resist. Ra (or I should say, my Ra build with Ra/Kali leads) does not have tremendous damage honestly. It's good damage, and consistent, but off a lot of Kali boards it just barely one-shots bulkier enemies. If I wasn't arbitrarily immune to type resist I think that kind of thing would be a big problem for me.

Maybe this is poinless, but have you considered a Horus/Kali team? Kali still does decent work with red TPAs as a lead. I don't know if your colors are set up for it, but if Horus is anything like Ra you want a Kali active more than you want a redundant Horus active.
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Post by: Suikama on August 11, 2015, 10:49:52 PM
Berry Dragon carried me through lv 8

all that hello kitty grinding was worth it ;_;
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 11, 2015, 10:55:43 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/cPUwfQLl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/cPUwfQL.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rwEDMH4l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rwEDMH4.jpg)

I think I have an idea in mind for c8, but I'm not sure if it would be enough...need to do some math and figure out what I can load into the team.
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Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2015, 12:21:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/UrURxF1.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/IdAQHWv.png)

All rushes clear (for now).

God and Hera with Gabriel, Devil and Dragon with Ra. I do want to clear them all with Gabriel eventually, but I don't feel like trying right now.

I actually thought this whole time that Zaerog would use both of his absorb abilities pre-emptively, only going down to one or the other when they expired. That being the case I guess I got slightly unlucky by getting light the first time, but I planned to have to deal with both, so it didn't really matter. This was a close call in the sense that I was going to die next turn, but it was a planned close call and it all went according to plan, so whatever.
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Post by: trancehime on August 12, 2015, 01:52:48 AM
Pfft, like starvauly is worth any consideration anymore.  Silly game.

can confirm, star vault is dead

(http://i.imgur.com/fxrldpD.png)
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 12, 2015, 02:17:50 AM
yeeee boi let's start a clear party up in here

(http://i.imgur.com/iGp2RP4.png) (http://i.imgur.com/HCypJW1.png) (http://i.imgur.com/p2Owm9y.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 12, 2015, 08:46:06 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/631384439415681024

awoken susano: 3 turn of 50% dmg reduction, 1 turn haste, 11 cd maxed

2 tpa
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Sapz on August 12, 2015, 11:05:00 AM
Awesome. My Vishnu team could really do with some extra beefiness and that'd do it nicely. I believe that also means with 3 Susanos you'd get a perma-buff, which is fun. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 12, 2015, 11:55:22 AM
Awesome. My Vishnu team could really do with some extra beefiness and that'd do it nicely. I believe that also means with 3 Susanos you'd get a perma-buff, which is fun. :V

You could get perma-buff with the original 3 Susano ults anyway = 5 + 5 +5 = 15.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 12, 2015, 12:27:26 PM
Ult Chibi Valk now has SB and Skill Lock Resist.

I know who I'm putting in my athena team next, alright.

By the way, anyone's got an idea at what difficulty I should farm Earth Insect Dragon for Vishnu/Leeza skillups? I know I did it some time before, but I don't remember which difficulty I used. Expert certainly hasn't been giving me good results.
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Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2015, 12:46:20 PM
Is that Physical/Dragon on Susano? His new form is amazing for sure, but losing BOTH of his typings kind of sucks. Of course I'm going to make him, he's incredible for Verdandi, but losing Attacker makes GZL sad. But the extra prong sort of mitigates that. What's his leader skill now?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 12, 2015, 12:48:44 PM
Is that Physical/Dragon on Susano? His new form is amazing for sure, but losing BOTH of his typings kind of sucks. Of course I'm going to make him, he's incredible for Verdandi, but losing Attacker makes GZL sad. But the extra prong sort of mitigates that. What's his leader skill now?

3x ATK when matching 2 or more Wood combos
~20% (??) damage resistance from all damages
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 01:04:13 PM
Hmm. So he's basically a stronger golem now. I like him, but his types are things I just can't work with. Maybe he'll work well as an Osiris sub, but balanced or attacker works way better for that...

Also I like how ult chibi Ronia and valk are literally better than their original counterparts. Of COURSE they'd finally make light valk good but collab/event exclusive.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 12, 2015, 01:18:14 PM
It's worth noting that Susano is 9x ATK with ~36% damage reduction to everything. Might be useful somewhere...
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
Oh, I wasn't even paying attention to his leader skill. Hmm, that DOES have potential. And I do have some pretty buff woodmakers cards like Meimei, Liu Bei, eventually Leilan, and hopefully Osiris gets stronk when he gets his ult... Hmm.

It really seems that I am just destined to run wood forever. :V
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Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2015, 01:26:48 PM
Yeah, that sounds useful. How would his active stack with his leader skill for reduction? If my dubious math is right that's 68% reduction 2/3 of the time with two skillmax Susanos. That's pretty nuts. 9X with two prongs is better than a Norn for damage output, and bulkier. Matching two green sets every turn isn't effortless, but it's also not that hard and he's buff enough to wait for actives if he has to.

Susano/Sasuke/Liu Bei/GZL/Verdandi or Summer Gonia/Susano maybe?
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Post by: trancehime on August 12, 2015, 02:25:03 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMNm3T7UcAAJ9-1.png)

well that's a thing that's done i guess
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Post by: Edible on August 12, 2015, 02:26:55 PM
That HP.

I have all my meimei mats ready to go, just waiting for the orb skillup change.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 12, 2015, 02:35:31 PM
Yeah, that sounds useful. How would his active stack with his leader skill for reduction?

The initial damage is reduced by 36%, then the remainder is halved. So... that would be 68% reduction.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 02:50:53 PM
That's uh... really, really good. That's close to three turns of unconditional Kushinada. Six, considering you'd be running two Susanos.
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Post by: Thaws on August 12, 2015, 02:57:15 PM
Run a third Susan's in your sub and you have permanent 68% reduction. Welcome to a new age of stall teams.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 03:06:51 PM
I do have two Susano...

Oh god, the woodpys I'm gonna need. Have mercy on me.
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Post by: Edible on August 12, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
Man, you know who didn't get a buff?  Chibi yomi. :|

GUNGHO WATER YOU DOIN
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 12, 2015, 03:44:17 PM
I only see one issue with using Susano/Susano/???/???/???/Susano

Where is your burst? The other three mobs better have very good actives, even if long, to make up for three members being on damage reduction duty.

The best duo I see is Liu Bei and Draggie!? Any reason to take Liu Bei is a reason you should take, and Draggie is an underappreciated option.

Threedia is a weird option. The shift in attack from x9 to x12 isn't trivial, and because you already have 50+% damage resistance (and so much HP!) it's basically like "4x attack at 99% or lower HP" for any other team.
Beach Gonia? Things gonna die, and the haste system makes her cd a lot more bearable, but that requires a rare roll in a special REM.
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Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2015, 04:07:15 PM
I'm inclined to say that 3X Susano is not worth it for most dungeons. I think you could get away with two.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 04:11:58 PM
Draggie... would be pretty legit if you run 3x Susano with Liu Bei and one other or something.

Personally I was going to run with attacker subs the more I think about it, just because I like every excuse I can get to use GZL.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on August 12, 2015, 05:01:55 PM
I only see one issue with using Susano/Susano/???/???/???/Susano

Where is your burst? The other three mobs better have very good actives, even if long, to make up for three members being on damage reduction duty.

There does also exist the option of just turtling it out. 9x isn't bad. When you can use any wood subs, even more so. If anything, I'd say a bigger problem is the RCV.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 12, 2015, 06:35:57 PM
There's no doubt that virtual 2+/9/2+ stats can turtle a billion things. There are GTFO attacks that you can't tank, though, and you'll need a way to get through those.

I want to use GZL, as his stats are just far superior to Draggie and still affects Liu Bei. But I think having Draggie let four or more members hit for 2.5x +delay is better than letting GZL ignoring any Susanos you have and only for 2x.

I wonder if speccing members for further elemental resist would be useful, and if so, what color would you build against?

At least GZL has RCV compared to Draggie. :V
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Post by: hyorinryu on August 12, 2015, 06:36:27 PM
Maybe go with Draggie/Odin/ Liu Bei for subs?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2015, 06:41:41 PM
Speaking of GZL, my mask rates are 1/12 green masks between last week and today so far. Fuuuuuck meeee. I just need ONE SKILLUP. Also zero black divine masks in all that, which I need like ten of.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 06:48:40 PM
It's not like 9x is necessarily weak though either. Certainly below par for today's meta, but totally valid. Especially if supplemented with Draggie for desperate situations (Though GZL + Liu Bei may be also good if there are enemies with stupid high def like fatty.)
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Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2015, 06:58:01 PM
I think 9x with prongs is valid. I'm comparing him to Verdandi since that's my frame of reference.

Verd/LB/GZL/Cu Chu/Susano/Verd is 9-11x with 10 prongs and two attackers.

Susano/LB/GZL/Sasuke/Verd/Susano is 9x with 11 prongs and three attackers.

I can't do the math on how the effective HP and recovery compare right mow, but Susano has less orbchanges and a lower modifier for better relative HP and recovery, more prongs, and arguably more flexible subs. Plus other factors like Susano's haste and extra skillboosts versus Verd's extra enhances and locks.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 12, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
Susano/Susano/Draggie/Zeal/Generate Earth Dragon/Susano, IMO.

Wood Dragon-type defense reducers if you need them...are mini GZL and Top Droidragon, so pick one. :V If you don't care if they're wood or not, you've got Awoken Minerva and R/L or Awoken Kagutsuchi.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 07:12:44 PM
What I would likely be running is:
Susano/Susano/Liu Bei/AMei/AParv or GZL or Draggie

Or just straight up:
Susano/AMei/Liu Bei/GZL/AParv or something like that.

One is hyper bulky, the other is hard hitting. But rdj's idea is legit too. I would worry about the lack of RCV though. Perhaps drop GED or Zeal for Odin?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 12, 2015, 07:21:38 PM
the whole idea of Susano reviving green dragon by virtue of Green Physical -not- being a thing is silly, but you take what you can get, right?

It's not like Green Dragon doesn't have a bunch of stuff already. It's just, nobody uses Liu Bei for his Dragon type, and they needed a solid leader to bring everything together.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 12, 2015, 07:26:34 PM
It just so happens that ASusano's massive bulk and defense makes Draggie actually viable, so why wouldn't you use it? Green dragon is pretty sparse but has a handful of great subs to work with if you can gather them all.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 12, 2015, 07:32:58 PM
But rdj's idea is legit too. I would worry about the lack of RCV though. Perhaps drop GED or Zeal for Odin?

Yeah, the RCV is an issue since Draggie doesn't have any at base. With plusses RCV would be more manageable, but I'd probably drop GED for GOdin if I had trouble staying healed, yeah.
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Post by: commandercool on August 12, 2015, 08:00:18 PM
I'm anti-Draggie (and anti-triple Susano) because it leads to teams with terrifyingly low numbers of orbchanges. Maybe that's offset by bulk and I'm just being picky, but I don't like it.

Forgot about AMei though. Just replace Verd with her on all of my proposed builds. She just makes the attacker build that much more appealing in my opinion.

Edit: And obviously GZL on an attacker-bases build is also contributing to the orbchange deficit, but he pukks weight on turns that his active isn't being used too, which seems like a more effective use of your very limited slots. And I suppose his defemse break is a little extra utility too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 12, 2015, 08:25:22 PM
it leads to teams with terrifyingly low numbers of orbchanges

(http://i.imgur.com/iGp2RP4.png)

Problems?

Also Verdandi was never used during the run oops
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Janitor Morgan on August 12, 2015, 08:41:59 PM
Didn't have anything else I wanted to do today, so decided I'd work on leveling a few things for ~*~not very secret projects~*~. Also featuring some Athena-related blasphemy.

(http://i.imgur.com/Zuf0KBll.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Zuf0KBl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/MhVRF74l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/MhVRF74.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YpbjxeRl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/YpbjxeR.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/lHg0oOSl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/lHg0oOS.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Thaws on August 12, 2015, 09:59:11 PM
Three Susano is close to being 4/9/4 with the AS loop going though, Skill binds aside.

As for the orb changer thing, remember that the susano's hastes, so 5cd skills are effectively 4cd, and 8cd double orb changers are effectively 6cd.
He seems really potent as both lead and sub right now :V
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Post by: hyorinryu on August 12, 2015, 10:12:42 PM
Three Susano is close to being 4/9/4 with the AS loop going though, Skill binds aside.

As for the orb changer thing, remember that the susano's hastes, so 5cd skills are effectively 4cd, and 8cd double orb changers are effectively 6cd.
He seems really potent as both lead and sub right now :V

It's probably worth looking into Perseus as a sub then.
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Post by: commandercool on August 13, 2015, 12:15:42 AM
Three Susano is close to being 4/9/4 with the AS loop going though, Skill binds aside.

As for the orb changer thing, remember that the susano's hastes, so 5cd skills are effectively 4cd, and 8cd double orb changers are effectively 6cd.
He seems really potent as both lead and sub right now :V

Yeah fair enough, you changed my mind. God, haste is a dumb mechanic. Still not sure I would run three Susanos myself (I mean, I can't because I just have one), but that does make Draggie a lot more appealing even with just two Susanos.
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Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2015, 02:15:59 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/kHqv5Xu.png)

this took a couple of tries but i managed to pull off the 1-turn-kill on BMeta (who pre-emptively binds leads for 2 turns)

Summer REM announced for NA starting 8/17 (https://www.facebook.com/notes/puzzle-dragons-north-america-gungho/pad-island-collab/1117662114929046), no sign of MP shop anywhere. Welp.

Awoken Orochi, first Quad TPA card in the game (https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/631727414322720769)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 13, 2015, 07:39:12 AM
>actually doing this

Yeah, okay. I'm done. I quit PAD.

Bye folks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2015, 07:45:09 AM
Yep, EU rep outright admit they can't make it during the summer event (https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsEurope/photos/a.441707025933609.1073741828.441177295986582/725030334267942/?type=1&comment_id=725069467597362&offset=0&total_comments=1&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D). I can't say I couldn't see it coming, the timing and inherent shadiness behind putting Claire into the Beach REM made it pretty clear this was a huge possibility. It's a huge blow to their consumer base and I really want to know how this is going to be addressed.

Like how do you expect to maintain customer retention if you keep pulling shit like this??
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Chaore on August 13, 2015, 07:54:47 AM
Like how do you expect to maintain customer retention if you keep pulling shit like this??

The fact the playerbase is dumb as bricks and never properly speaks about it.

Almost every post on NA right now is 'YAY I'M GOING TO WASTE ALL MY STONES', half the people don't seem to be aware mp exists

i'm really angry because not only are they doing this, i've only seen one or two people rallying against it and it's likely they'll get away with it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 13, 2015, 08:08:42 AM
Wow, as if I didn't have enough reason to not roll on this REM already.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Dorakyura on August 13, 2015, 09:23:50 AM
Were is the problem. The dropchance to get Claire is horrible anyway.
If they have her in the MP shop, then I don't see a reason to hate it. (they will earn a shitstorm if she is not available, since we will most likely get the MP shop after the summer event)
Also, at least we get the summer event during summer  ::)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2015, 09:57:39 AM
Lots of big shit being dropped,

2M Murako Followers give us new ULT Survey.

Green MP Dragon is Odin Dragon,

http://pad.gungho.jp/member/150813_newmonster_mp.html

AS = 50% HP heal, 5 turn bind clear, 1 turn haste
LS = God type ATK/RCV x1.5, reduced damage taken by 80%? when at full HP

Awakes: 2x autoheal, 2x bind resist, skill boost.
Additional awakes on UVO: 4x autoheal (total of 6)

Heroes buffs:

ATK multiplier remains x4, but activation is 4 orbs instead of 6
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 10:45:43 AM
Well, it's not the worst thing NA has done to us. I suspect that if Claire will be in the MP rotation at all she'll be the first one instead of Shiva Dragon if they want it to be even remotely close to summer so she's in-season. But nah, what with having us almost 8-5-3 months behind on various content, being perpetually fucked out of the best collabs (because those are game-changing whether people like to admit it or not)-- regardless of the licensing issue, we're still screwed out of them-- and the ones we do get are the pointless ones, and with JP just being treated way better in general while NA is forever going to be a watered-down version of the game, this is just the delicate sting after a huge perpetual slap in the face.

I'm annoyed but I'm not going to dwell on it.

I was considering throwing a little money into the event otherwise (because wow dang you're really updating the game fast if you're putting out PAD Island because that means we'd have to be up to JP's version software-wise! I can and would support that even if descends and ults are still way behind) but now they've made sure they're not getting a fucking penny though. They ruin an event to push it out as soon as possible but drag their feet so hard on giving updates that JP has already had for 5-8 months? Fuck that. PAD really is a whale's game, because they're the ones supporting this bullshit. My non-IAP resolve remains. You vote with your wallets, people. I would really wish this is the point where the NA playerbase collectively puts their foot down and refuses to spend money on PAD until they start changing for the better, but it just makes them want to spend harder. She's more exclusive now! Gotta get her to make everyone else jealous. Time to throw your money away on 50+ rolls, right?

Awoken Orochi is intriguing, but how does 4 tpa stack with the 3 tpa meta when his atk is so low? And his new AS is lame and uncreative,though more practical than the original, I guess. 15 turns for 4 turn delay is more practical than 20 for 5 but it's a great big bubpy sink for such a small change. I was personally hoping for a 15 turn 3 delay with 2 haste or something.

Heroes getting upgraded is nice. Allowing them to get 3 rows in at 16x is great. Shame I don't really use any of them as leaders anymore though.

Odin Dragon looks fucking pointless. The bind clearing is nice but compared to the others he's awful. Should have been Parvati Dragon!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Sapz on August 13, 2015, 11:44:09 AM
Anyone know the details on how the new Heroes LSes work? Specifically I'm curious if you still need 8 orbs for the 16x.

Debating spending my stones on godfest part 1 tomorrow, where we've got 3K and Indian 1, both of which seem really good.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 11:53:24 AM
No. It's just a solid 4x for 6 orbs (though the multiplier begins at 4 orbs for 3x, I assume? Or did they lower the damage but make the increment higher per orb?). Which is really nice because it allows you to stack a third row in for WAY more damage. But it also makes it a lot less obtuse to hit their max multiplier and uses fewer orbs. A nice upgrade. Also brings TPA potential if you REALLY want to but I wouldn't suggest it, since that would force you into a lower multiplier instead. But doing a row and a TPA....

Yes, Beach Pandora just got that much better. (If she's affected by the buff, that is.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2015, 12:00:00 PM
Yes, Beach Pandora just got that much better. (If she's affected by the buff, that is.)

she is affected
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 12:26:02 PM
How ridiculously overpowered.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2015, 12:28:38 PM
How ridiculously overpowered.

I don't know if it is x3 -> x4 with 4 to 6 orbs or x2 -> x4 with 4 to 8 orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 12:37:39 PM
Well what I mean is Bikinidora herself gets 16x plus 40% plus 2.25x if you do a row and a tpa. And that's not even considering any additional rows the subs would have. It's not necessarily hard to get 10 rows these days, so that'd essentially be 32x for one row and then 2.25x for tpas afterward, which makes her incredibly strong. And if you're short on dark orbs, you can do a water row instead and do a dark tpa and still do big damage.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Well what I mean is Bikinidora herself gets 16x plus 40% plus 2.25x if you do a row and a tpa. And that's not even considering any additional rows the subs would have. It's not necessarily hard to get 10 rows these days, so that'd essentially be 32x for one row and then 2.25x for tpas afterward, which makes her incredibly strong. And if you're short on dark orbs, you can do a water row instead and do a dark tpa and still do big damage.

Oh, that's true. Bikinidora is beast mode. For real.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 12:58:32 PM
Oh, and she's compatible with Lu Bu and King Baddie too.

Congratulations, Pandora. You became even more ridiculously OP.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 13, 2015, 01:23:05 PM
Well, it's not the worst thing NA has done to us.

I don't think NA is the one calling the shots on this...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 01:29:20 PM
Normally I would agree with you, but I'm not convinced on this one. They could choose to postpone this until we have the proper version for it, and that's a delay I'd much rather have than the having one of the biggest attractions taken out for it to be rushed out early. I'd rather NA focus on getting the ults and descends we're so far behind on than rushing out content before it's fully ready, you know? I don't like the delays just like anyone else, but I understand why they're needed. Circumventing them for incomplete content just feels so counterproductive.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 13, 2015, 01:34:06 PM
I don't want to sound all Gungho cheerleader, but I'm finding it hard to care about this, like at all. Obviously it sucks, but it's not unexpected or unprecedented at all. And for my money (figuratively, although possibly a modest amount literally as well-I'll probably drop another token $20 when the Eva revision comes out) they have a track record of taking decent care if us when stuff like this happens.

Is Gungho's customer relations seriously considered bad? I keep comparing them to the nightmare experience of dealing with NECA in my other major hobby, tabletop gaming, and they come out smelling like roses. Obviously "lesser of two evils" isn't much to say, but I think Gungho has established themselves as thoroughly non-evil.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 13, 2015, 01:35:06 PM
I like that we get some stuff more or less at the same time as JP, especially when it's seasonal like this.  The biggest issue is that we have no MP and therefore no purchasable Claire, so we need to pressure Gungho NA into assuring us that she'll be purchasable when we get MP or shortly thereafter.  I'm reasonably sure they won't throw us to the wolves on this.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on August 13, 2015, 01:41:35 PM
I'm pretty sure GungHo NA really isn't behind this, after all, just like PaD Academy and Christmas we're getting this stuff at the same time as JP, and GungHo couldn't honestly leave out claire which is basically the biggest thing about the whole event.

I'm not angry, although I personally would prefer if they got the MP Shop out first but that was a dream within a dream. What will be really, really, really shitty though is if Claire isn't purchasable out of the MP Shop literally as soon as it comes out in NA. If that isn't a thing then I will be thoroughly pissed.

But somehow, I doubt even GungHo can fuck up that bad.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 13, 2015, 01:48:19 PM
so we need to pressure Gungho NA into assuring us that she'll be purchasable when we get MP or shortly thereafter.

This is probably the most acceptable solution right now. The stream tomorrow would be prime time to announce it as well.

also re: 4TPA Orochi i'm not sure how to feel about it. His attack is in the doodoo range, and due to how latent awakenings calculate stuff, you can't even salvage it with that. I'm also unsure about a "quicker" Force either. typically if you use Force, the cd was long enough that you're going to commit to stalling out for it. Going in-between doesn't really do much because it's pretty hard to have it up immediately, and it loses a bit of its effectiveness.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 01:52:41 PM
I'd like to see some numbers that show what potential 4 TPA could have, both at 1000 atk and 1495 atk. I don't see the point in making it a thing unless it's a thing for a reason.

I'm indifferent to the new active. I think it's lazy and doesn't show what creative potential the other awokens have been getting (seriously you could have tossed in haste or something to make the active useful against the enemies that negate delay), and I think it's a shitty bubpy sink. But on the other hand, what with how skill boosts and hastes are a thing now, he's literally a bulkier Echidna with more damage potential.

The LS is meh. Too many enemies do multihits to make the resolve worth much, and it's devalued even more now that skill sets are a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: Edible on August 13, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
This is probably the most acceptable solution right now. The stream tomorrow would be prime time to announce it as well.

also re: 4TPA Orochi i'm not sure how to feel about it. His attack is in the doodoo range, and due to how latent awakenings calculate stuff, you can't even salvage it with that. I'm also unsure about a "quicker" Force either. typically if you use Force, the cd was long enough that you're going to commit to stalling out for it. Going in-between doesn't really do much because it's pretty hard to have it up immediately, and it loses a bit of its effectiveness.

4TPA Orochi is the strongest TPA critter in the game.  Not by much, but he's even stronger than Vishnu (according to some napkin maths, and assuming the comparison is done at +297).  Naturally the caveat here is without TPA he's weak as hell, but still.

Re: shorter cooldown Force, we're trading one turn of Force delay for 5 turn cooldown, which is pretty huge imo.  There's a gulf of difference between 15 turns and 20; the former is pretty easily achievable in a couple rounds, especially these days when everything has multiple skill boosts and some stuff has haste baked in as well.  I think it makes him much more usable overall.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: commandercool on August 13, 2015, 02:20:31 PM
Provided the math on his prongs-versus-attack ratio works out, and apparently it does, I like him. I think this skill is much better. His colors make him kind of Ra and White Sonia friendly, but his whole attack situation does not, which is weird. Not sure where I'd put him. Is there a blue TPA lead? I guess Blodin kind of works, but Blodin/Blodin has a pretty low attack modifier.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
Skuld is a blue tpa lead, as is UmiYama. The latter could use him well if you're packing healers for Sun Quan to buff since Orochi is really bulky, but would you really need two delay makers?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: trancehime on August 13, 2015, 02:30:34 PM
Provided the math on his prongs-versus-attack ratio works out, and apparently it does, I like him. I think this skill is much better. His colors make him kind of Ra and White Sonia friendly, but his whole attack situation does not, which is weird. Not sure where I'd put him. Is there a blue TPA lead? I guess Blodin kind of works, but Blodin/Blodin has a pretty low attack modifier.

blue tpa lead?

skuld
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: OverlordChirei on August 13, 2015, 02:31:18 PM
yooo someone lock dis we at 1k
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 22 - A chocolate brand collaborated with this game??
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on August 13, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
lok