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Title: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 25, 2014, 03:50:07 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/p5GEiBO.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained frequently as rewards in-game), which allow for increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because you are almost guaranteed to be super frustrated at getting screwed by bad rolls ;_;)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to mighty (?) dragons to even gods like Skuld (above).  They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare (a God).  Great starters include any of the Chinese Gods, Ares, Bastet, Isis, Idunn & Idunna, Lu Bu, Fallen Angel Lucifer, Odin, U&Y, Shiva, Red Sonia, and many others.  Feel free to ask!

List of friends:

Edible: 328,945,274
hyorinryu: 357.646.299
Suikama: 348.941.282
SuikamaEX: 396.277.239
Soichiro: 389,177,249
triangles: 322.456.235
Nobu: 389,151,231
Arashi: 361,443,282
Chaore: 344,844,286
Ghaleon: 374,256,217
Labuto: 362,441,209
omgkitties: 301,354,227
Twillsky: 320,059,211
O4rfish: 389,956,257
Mode: 384,458,286
Arcorann: 326,368,215
Yukarin: 394.177.213
Jq1790: 396,049,294
Pesco: 328 276 294
MJP: 370,479,279
Dibble: 314,673,283
Matsuri: 358,689,277
Fast Fanatic: 359,184,275
Sacchi Hikaru: 385,394,297
rdj: 338,277,280
Chirei: 326,404,383
En: 351,629,319
commandercool: 312,728,337
Aoshi: 398,822,333
Bonkeror (Conqueror): 331,616,320
Lem: 386.230.369
Espadas: 367,032,362
EspadasEX: 301,335,377
MoogsParfait: 313,455,268
Dorakyura: 347,957,300

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Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Moogs Parfait on November 25, 2014, 03:53:01 AM
ok add me to the list already

Now running L Meta, Ronia, Lu Bu, and Athena

313,455,268
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 25, 2014, 04:12:27 AM
commandercool, 10 minutes ago i max leveled my GZL (who was already max awoken).

If you plan on using GZL right off the bat let me know and i'll put him up as leader instead of GOdin.

I don't plan on using him for a while. All of his potential subs are unevolved, he's only level 57, and he only has one awakening. It'll be weeks most likely. But I'll take you up on that eventually I'm sure.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Edible on November 25, 2014, 04:23:01 AM
FIST OF THE NORTH STAR COLLAB THOUGH
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Dr Rawr on November 25, 2014, 04:32:24 AM
its a trick NA will never get it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 25, 2014, 05:27:13 AM
its a trick NA will never get it

Hard to say! It's already been posted on the NA facebook page. I don't recall DBZ or Saint Seiya and the like getting that attention and in fact, despite countless whiny little assholes in every post they make demanding it, they have never seemed to acknowledge it.

So maybe.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 25, 2014, 09:50:50 AM
You know, lately i've been thinking that the Elementals are quite more useful than what some comments make them out to be, especially Genie.

A lot of descent have at least one stage with extremely hard hitting enemies, sometimes two and almost always when the boss is low on hp he bust out the ohko skill....
For those bosses Elemental's AS are practically like Echidna's Menace!

Just look at Satan Descent as example: synced Vampires, Hades, World Ends.... every single one would become WAY easier or outright laughable with Genie.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 25, 2014, 10:15:39 AM
FIST OF THE NORTH STAR COLLAB THOUGH
Yep. SRZ CANNOT HOLD MY BODY.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/p417x417/1538765_958132640881995_3468912956516516469_n.jpg?oh=ab5c2f62daba203390a1536e4c2cc174&oe=551895AB&__gda__=1426792748_77f0a382b9407a13d8b32f797b2337a5)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 25, 2014, 10:55:27 AM
Now watch as Ken get an overpowered but harder to activate version of the Chinese Gods LS..... after all: "Seven-Star Formation"  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on November 25, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
All these collabs are like too old for a 21 year old like me :V
DBZ, Saint Seiya, and now this.




I think there was a discussion about izanami earlier in the last thread. I don't know if anyone got the memo here yet, but JP just renewed Izanami descent, aka no more stupid random 1 out of 2 boss.
It's now 6 battles long, you face Light Iza on wave 5, Dark iza on wave 6.
Yes, those who have played this dungeon might have realized... if you get skill binded for 10 turns on Light Iza, you have to deal with Dark Iza under SKILL BIND and ORB MOVEMENT MINUS 2 SECONDS at the same time. I can tell you it's hell if you didn't resist the skill bind, though Light Iza has Legend's stats on Myth, so she doesn't hit that hard (like 7k per turn) BUT she also has less HP so you're less likely to be able to stall 10 turns on her.

I did a Mythical run (two actually, first one I died on battle 1 :V )
(http://i.imgur.com/iUUrFBQ.png)
I had to withstand FIVE turns on Dark izanami under skill bind. 8 poison orbs -> 11.8k+jammer orbs -> 17.7k damage -> repeat
It's a very unforgiving attack pattern that I usually ignored by OHKOing her with skills on the first turn...
I managed to came out of it with 3 poison and 4 jammer orbs leftover on my screen Lmao

(http://i.imgur.com/UThyy91.png)
Dieeeeeeeee *while I gets poison damage lols*
no-stone clear! woot.
but there's no clear stone reward for me since I already gotten it before the renewal and this doesn't count as a new dungeon...

(http://i.imgur.com/ZQ6425J.png)
Yes, you can now get both izanami in one run. And yes, that's my first Light Izanami after having gotten 3 darks before this renewal
But I've heard reports that even Mythical doesn't guarantee Light Iza drop. Dark is probably 100% drop though, and she's the more useful sub to skill-max so nice I guess. :) Except her mythical is now 100% harder to farm... orz
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 25, 2014, 11:44:49 AM
Elementals

The thing is, the elementals have pretty bad stats, and most of the time where they would work, so does echidna. The other bigger reason that they're not preferred is that the cds are 10 vs 15, and elementals are WAY harder to max out. I dunno if the board enhance changed anything over in JP, but the 15-20 turns may now be worth it to some people.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 25, 2014, 12:46:51 PM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/537206740052213761

Woah I had no idea Unicorn was a rare spawn in the Light Insect Dungeon :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 25, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
Wow, those Izanami changes seem amazing actually. Given that she's actually kind of plausible to skillmax and kind of amazing once you do, putting tohether a farming team for her dungeon seems totally worth it now. It sucks that the light one doesn't always drop, but I couldd see maxing two of the dark one being worth the effort. Sounds really hard without a specialized team, but potentially very easy with one.

The question is though, does that team exist? Is there a team that can reliably handle the first floor and the bosses? Maybe a Ra team with a lot of skillbind resists and Change The World to bypass the movement reduction? Would a standard Ra team at 16x attack KO one of the oni guards in one turn assuming you meed to spend a turn taking care of blindness?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 25, 2014, 01:26:57 PM
The question is though, does that team exist? Is there a team that can reliably handle the first floor and the bosses? Maybe a Ra team with a lot of skillbind resists and Change The World to bypass the movement reduction? Would a standard Ra team at 16x attack KO one of the oni guards in one turn assuming you meed to spend a turn taking care of blindness?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtXKwob1P64 R/L Horus team
This team is only currently possible in JP where Indra has 2x Block Skill Block awakenings to ensure 100% Block Skill Block. He also uses Muse instead of Lakshmi, who has 2.5x God Enhance.
He does use D/L Yomi there. Incidentally, Kosuke gets a shitton of skyfall luck in this run, it's kind of nuts. In fact the skyfall on Fight 5 is what cost him the OTK on DIza because he was only able to get x16.00 instead of x25.00, RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZQEyKFki2A Pandora team
Includes a Chester for literally free 60% BlockSkillBlock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8XEdH7shDQ Krishna team
100% Block Skill Block: 2x Krishna, Urd, Freyr, Cao Cao.



Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: triangles on November 25, 2014, 01:29:58 PM
All these collabs are like too old for a 21 year old like me :V
DBZ, Saint Seiya, and now this.
what the how??
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 25, 2014, 01:36:07 PM
what the how??

The original run of DBZ was actually on Japanese network in 1989. For whatever that's worth.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 25, 2014, 01:59:26 PM
Has anyone experimented much with the Indian 2.0 skyfall actives? My neighbor had never seen Avalon Drake before so I showed it to him, and his first reaction was "seems like a good Leilan sub". That seems weird to me, since Drake's active makes activating Leilan's leader skill extremely difficult, but what about a gimmick build that uses Avalon Drake to clear the entire screen and do a bunch of rows with Krishna's active up? What are the odds of getting one red match out of a completely fresh board with 15% increased red drops? I'm not suggesting that this is viable or that anyone should do it, but it might be kind of fun if it sort of works numbers-wise.

what the how??

Dragon Ball Z is too old for me, and I'm older than Thaws. I mean, I got into anime late, but still it's a show for old old men. :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 25, 2014, 02:01:44 PM
I am reading some of the comments on Facebook and losing faith in humanity.

We finally get something cool coming our way and these horrible pathetic pissbabies are still cussing gungho out over not getting DBZ. iOS users get the feature to buy stones for charity and more than one person is saying "no red sonia/Satan uvo = no red stones" and I....

It's just depressing. Fucking entitled shitlords.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 25, 2014, 02:13:21 PM
Has anyone experimented much with the Indian 2.0 skyfall actives? My neighbor had never seen Avalon Drake before so I showed it to him, and his first reaction was "seems like a good Leilan sub". That seems weird to me, since Drake's active makes activating Leilan's leader skill extremely difficult, but what about a gimmick build that uses Avalon Drake to clear the entire screen and do a bunch of rows with Krishna's active up? What are the odds of getting one red match out of a completely fresh board with 15% increased red drops? I'm not suggesting that this is viable or that anyone should do it, but it might be kind of fun if it sort of works numbers-wise.

Uh, Avalon Drake is 100% counterproductive as a Krishna sub when Vishnu exists.

EDIT: Oh, I misread what you posted. Uhhhh the odds of getting one red match out of a completely fresh board? Not as high as you'd expect lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 25, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
Leilan x Avalon Drake

I heard Leilan questions!

I assume your friend uses Leilan? I agree that active-wise, he isn't the best choice. He would be a Skill Booster and a HP stick at best. Low RCV might get you effed over, though.

What someone can do though, is use Avalon Drake as the leader if HP is badly needed above anything else. Leilan is a god and has a fairly high amount of HP as R/G so it might be surprisingly effective.

Even with the 15% boost, I haven't heard of it being really effective, so unless you're in a tricolor dungeon that allows fire&hearts (Assuming R/G leads are used), I wouldn't use that strat seriously unless you literally have nothing else. You don't want to hail mary it at a critical moment only to get boned.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 25, 2014, 02:20:08 PM
Quote
[Time-travel] Heaven's Gala + Armored Knights (#1649~1658) at 1x introductory rates starting Friday 11/28

Suikamaaaaaaaa.......  :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 25, 2014, 02:23:14 PM
I have a terrible tendency to hoard skill up fodder for things I don't have. I could probably throw away these 10 dragon stones for chaser room.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 25, 2014, 02:36:49 PM
Suikamaaaaaaaa.......  :3

and yet the entitled masses will bitch continuously about the lack of their precious Ronia uvo

man, goddamnit, I don't even have a Ronia, or any Sonia, for that matter, so I am just gonna keep leveling up my DMeta.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 25, 2014, 02:54:55 PM
Suikamaaaaaaaa.......  :3
>at 1x introductory rates

fuck

also it's heavens gala

urrggggg i guess i should really wait until there's Knights + Egypt 2.0 + Blue Gala

which might not happen for a looong time but i can dream right ._.


also HNK fuck yes
Quote
Pre-emptive: Omae Wa Mou Shinderu (-100% HP)


rofl people actually voted luci into the top 30
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 25, 2014, 03:01:28 PM
Why do I feel like this is the first thread I've read that actually has Edible's ID.
Edit: Nvm, saw his name on the last one. :derp:



I am reading some of the comments on Facebook and losing faith in humanity.

We finally get something cool coming our way and these horrible pathetic pissbabies are still cussing gungho out over not getting DBZ. iOS users get the feature to buy stones for charity and more than one person is saying "no red sonia/Satan uvo = no red stones" and I....

It's just depressing. Fucking entitled shitlords.
AIDS Research.

Hoorah for GoodGuy GungHo.
Boo for non-IAPs like me. D:
and yet the entitled masses will bitch continuously about the lack of their precious Ronia uvo

man, goddamnit, I don't even have a Ronia, or any Sonia, for that matter, so I am just gonna keep leveling up my DMeta.
I think you quoted wrong. Lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Yukarin on November 25, 2014, 03:10:54 PM
I am reading some of the comments on Facebook and losing faith in humanity.

We finally get something cool coming our way and these horrible pathetic pissbabies are still cussing gungho out over not getting DBZ. iOS users get the feature to buy stones for charity and more than one person is saying "no red sonia/Satan uvo = no red stones" and I....

It's just depressing. Fucking entitled shitlords.

cant do anything about it. i am however really grateful for what Gungho NA is trying to do.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 25, 2014, 03:11:55 PM
Personally i think Gungho NA is doing a fair job of keeping up with the updates although i would love to get DBZ too....



On a completely different topic: i was looking at the new uevo of Amaterasu..... would it do well as leader with F/L Horus when he get the attacker sub-type?

Double Ama is terrific but not everyone have her..... i think she would have some good sinergy with the flaming chicken too:

- easier to stall since you can settle for 3x instead of going full 9x every turn

- higher burst, 12x or 15x

- add something like GZL and you already have 4 colors covered AND a huge burst for bosses (didn't do the math but 30x with their ATK stats would bring a world of pain)


If it wasn't clear enough i'm wondering if my own forgotten Horus could be finally put to use  :D
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 25, 2014, 03:13:18 PM
I think you quoted wrong. Lol

No, I'm saying that in spite of the knights coming to REM this Friday for NA people will completely ignore that because "bawwww where's ronia uvo?"

Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 25, 2014, 03:18:48 PM
Why do I feel like this is the first thread I've read that actually has Edible's ID.

I'm actually wondering how many of those people are still active. Maybe it should be grouped into active/nonactive sections?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Edible on November 25, 2014, 03:44:14 PM
Why do I feel like this is the first thread I've read that actually has Edible's ID.
Edit: Nvm, saw his name on the last one. :derp:

I actually just snuck it in there on the last one, I think.  So yeah.

For a really long time I had absolutely no open friend slots, but then I went insane and bought a ton.

No, I'm saying that in spite of the knights coming to REM this Friday for NA people will completely ignore that because "bawwww where's ronia uvo?"

Satan/RSonia/DMeta ults came out over a month ago in JP; I think people have a reason to be irked.

Personally i think Gungho NA is doing a fair job of keeping up with the updates although i would love to get DBZ too....

I cannot agree.  PAD NA is behind on -so much stuff- right now, it's absurd.

Like, we still haven't even gotten a Yinping descend, or any of the Insect Dragons.  And with all the collabs we're missing, there's just no reason for there to be such a lag in releasing the rest of the content here.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: triangles on November 25, 2014, 04:08:41 PM
Hey on that note I'm guessing still no word on the Droiddragon ult?  I have two bb dragons ready to feed for awakenings as soon as it hits  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 25, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Hey on that note I'm guessing still no word on the Droiddragon ult?  I have two bb dragons ready to feed for awakenings as soon as it hits  :ohdear:

We'll probably get on an anniversary for Android. This was poor planning on Gungho's part if you ask me.

I actually just snuck it in there on the last one, I think.  So yeah.

For a really long time I had absolutely no open friend slots, but then I went insane and bought a ton.

Satan/RSonia/DMeta ults came out over a month ago in JP; I think people have a reason to be irked.

I cannot agree.  PAD NA is behind on -so much stuff- right now, it's absurd.

Like, we still haven't even gotten a Yinping descend, or any of the Insect Dragons.  And with all the collabs we're missing, there's just no reason for there to be such a lag in releasing the rest of the content here.

I remember you never gave out your ID, and then one time when I was doing some random dungeon, I saw an Edible with a Bastet in the explorers list. I wondered if it was you and added him for the heck of it.

As for the delay, I don't really mind, I'm slow on keeping up with all this stuff, anyway. As for being behind, we still don't have Cauchemar, I think he's been around for quite a while now. I can sort of understand. I still remember that person with 10 sonia on facebook. Haha. Btw, why do you guys have expectations when reading stuff like facebook? It's like mashing your face in with a baseball bat and complaining it hurts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 25, 2014, 04:31:19 PM
I personally don't mind/care about most of the delays because I've seen localization FAR worse than this. The improvement from how it supposedly was back then is astounding to me still, being a new-ish player compared to some of y'all. I actually don't think I've ever seen a game with the main branch overseas that has a smaller localization lag than PAD does, so there's hardly any reason for me to complain given the much higher speed that the gap has been closed with lately. Then again, I like to think with the glass half full, because otherwise I just look like another one of those entitled people complaining on Facebook - and no one likes those people.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 25, 2014, 06:00:29 PM
I personally don't mind/care about most of the delays because I've seen localization FAR worse than this. The improvement from how it supposedly was back then is astounding to me still, being a new-ish player compared to some of y'all. I actually don't think I've ever seen a game with the main branch overseas that has a smaller localization lag than PAD does, so there's hardly any reason for me to complain given the much higher speed that the gap has been closed with lately. Then again, I like to think with the glass half full, because otherwise I just look like another one of those entitled people complaining on Facebook - and no one likes those people.

Same for me on all accounts. Having experienced games with even over a year of backlog or with wildly erratic updates i don't feel like i can complain about Gungho NA.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 25, 2014, 06:16:33 PM
Hmm looking back, Egypt 2.0 was released just a week after knights in Japan

Maybe right after this godfest the next one will have Egypt 2?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on November 25, 2014, 07:28:31 PM
what the how??

I dunno...
I know my older sis was into DBZ
But by the time I was like 6 the hot stuff was pokemon, digimon, etc. also remembering watching the original HxH series back then hence that's not on my list :V
I know some frds around my age are fans of DBZ so it depends I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 25, 2014, 08:08:50 PM
I'm 22, and watching the frieza saga every night for a while with my little sister was a vivid memory for me, unless you meant like original original non-z dragon ball, which was probably beyond me at the time.

Then again, this could also have been dubbing lag in getting to the Philippines that those were the most recent eps at the time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 25, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
wind chaser yes finally a dungeon that's easy to s rank
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 25, 2014, 08:43:19 PM
wind chaser yes finally a dungeon that's easy to s rank

If you have Ronia is trivial, i did it this morning with 2 Ronia leads and 4 evo mask. The only possible risk is if you get a stage with many mid level ninjas....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 25, 2014, 08:50:52 PM
I'm 22, and watching the frieza saga every night for a while with my little sister was a vivid memory for me, unless you meant like original original non-z dragon ball, which was probably beyond me at the time.

Then again, this could also have been dubbing lag in getting to the Philippines that those were the most recent eps at the time.

I'm not even 20 and DBZ was pretty big. I remember seeing kids buy coloring books so they could trace out Vegeta going super saiyan.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 25, 2014, 09:10:23 PM
Oh hey we're getting Kanetsugu soo--

(http://i.imgur.com/uRNMBuq.png)

:persona:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 25, 2014, 09:22:52 PM
I bet if 80% of these scrubs tried to play on live video without PDX to hold their hand or any prior knowledge they'd get fucking slaughtered. That said,

Hmm looking back, Egypt 2.0 was released just a week after knights in Japan

Maybe right after this godfest the next one will have Egypt 2?

Shit man you're making me seven kinds of anxious.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Jq1790 on November 25, 2014, 09:23:27 PM
Oh hey we're getting Kanetsugu soo--

(http://i.imgur.com/uRNMBuq.png)

:persona:
Yeah, I was sort of disappointed reading that.  Not surprised, but disappointed.

Same with every time I hear hate for the streamers though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on November 25, 2014, 09:55:30 PM
Yeah, I was sort of disappointed reading that.  Not surprised, but disappointed.

Same with every time I hear hate for the streamers though.

Imagine if these guys were watching the JP stream for Fire Zeus, where Max Murai went in with a Ares+Frey party.
It took forever, stream went way overtime.
And then at boss, after getting zeus down to low hp with this semi-stall team, he screwed up the critical combo with all skills used, reviving zeus to his full health thanks to combo shield.
They had to turn off the stream window, let murai do his thing/take a rest, while they released previews for new ults and stuff because stream went really overtime. LOL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Jq1790 on November 25, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
Imagine if these guys were watching the JP stream for Fire Zeus, where Max Murai went in with a Ares+Frey party.
It took forever, stream went way overtime.
And then at boss, after getting zeus down to low hp with this semi-stall team, he screwed up the critical combo with all skills used, reviving zeus to his full health thanks to combo shield.
They had to turn off the stream window, let murai do his thing/take a rest, while they released previews for new ults and stuff because stream went really overtime. LOL
I...think I'd probably just set the game down for a couple hours at that point and try again another time if that happened.  That had to SUCK for Murai.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 25, 2014, 10:04:16 PM
Imagine if these guys were watching the JP stream for Fire Zeus, where Max Murai went in with a Ares+Frey party.
It took forever, stream went way overtime.
And then at boss, after getting zeus down to low hp with this semi-stall team, he screwed up the critical combo with all skills used, reviving zeus to his full health thanks to combo shield.
They had to turn off the stream window, let murai do his thing/take a rest, while they released previews for new ults and stuff because stream went really overtime. LOL

Dang. Though that gives me hope for the US streamers, because everyone that's good at PAD had to start somewhere.

Mad respect for them for even being the first to even set foot on live camera out of the entire NA office, really. That alone takes more balls than running any dungeon given the amount of ingrates.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Jq1790 on November 25, 2014, 10:39:44 PM
Oh right, I didn't mention, but apparently I have a level 37 Blazing Maiden, Princess Valkyrie as a result of a pull I decided to make on a whim earlier today.

Not sure what I'll use her for, but a gold's a gold so I'll probably find a use.  Overall she's got higher stats than Lilith so I might swap the two once I level her some for when I'm running my healers as rainbow.

Man, I really hope I pull a Sun Quan when the PCGF comes around or sometime soon in general.  Would REALLY help me out what with having not-crap stats and both a delay and a type boost.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 25, 2014, 10:45:29 PM
Maxed out Sun Quan's level earlier by getting a Super Fusion that brought him to four million almost exactly. Most satisfying thing ever. Now just Beyzul needs another .8 million and my team will all be fully leveled again.

I bet if 80% of these scrubs tried to play on live video without PDX to hold their hand or any prior knowledge they'd get fucking slaughtered. That said,

Every stream I've ever caught bits of has been tragic, but I get twitchy when people watch me play over my shoulder, so yeah, I don't begrudge the streamers of anything.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 25, 2014, 11:32:49 PM
What grates me the most about that comment is the "6 hours maint for + orbs buff". It makes me cringe every time people say these kinds of things because they don't seem to realize using maintenance time to preemptively put content in is a common thing.

And then plus the fact that they needed to do the whole charity thing for iOS users and they probably spent a least an hour on testing the + orb enhance buff and making sure the servers were online and stuff. People think adding content is just "flip a switch", gosh.
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Post by: trancehime on November 26, 2014, 06:02:19 AM
I...think I'd probably just set the game down for a couple hours at that point and try again another time if that happened.  That had to SUCK for Murai.

he's improved massively since then though. his run of Zeus Mercury was downright nuts; he did incredibly well to be able to run in totally blind using Isis/Horus. I believe it's also this run which was notable for Murai demanding YamaP to be the one to feed his +222 Ronia to his King Mastering.

Mad respect for them for even being the first to even set foot on live camera out of the entire NA office, really. That alone takes more balls than running any dungeon given the amount of ingrates.

#TeamAntonio represent

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537541525178028032
Shiryu uvo - now shirtless.
also holy cow those stats

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537544723473244160
Seiya uvo
>LS: When HP is full, x4 ATK to all God types (originally x4 ATK to all Balanced types)

gungho what in the actual fuck

Seiya uvo is now literally godlike, and he has two TPA wahahahaa

EDIT 2

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537548577132670976
Perseus UVO stats.
+200 ATK, to the surprise of absolutely nobody: Gets Balanced subtype
New Awakenings: Skill Block, Skill Boost, Finger

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537554937043906561
Hera-Is UVO Art is 90%~ complete.
Tentative(?) Stats Tomorrow
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 10:58:20 AM
Challenge Dungeons tomorrow for NA.

Time to measure the true worth of your teams. Get those Pys.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 26, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
Do we have a list of what the earlier levels of the challenge dungeon gives us? I'm pretty sure everyone here can run up to level 4 with no problems.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
tamas and exp dragons iirc, and possibly a stone for the first 3/4 levels since they're not technicals
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 26, 2014, 12:03:08 PM
Do we have a list of what the earlier levels of the challenge dungeon gives us? I'm pretty sure everyone here can run up to level 4 with no problems.

1. money
2. metal/gold dragon
3. metal/gold dragon
-----------------------------> Stone
4. +1/+1/+1 TAMADRA


Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 01:27:32 PM
I found an exact list on PF while trying to find more timetravel shenanigans.

F1: 500,000 coins
F2: Queen metal dragon
F3: Queen gold dragon
F4: Tamadra with 9 plus eggs (3/3/3)
F5: Fully maxed light noel dragon (1,500,000 Light EXP!!!)
F6: Flampy
F7: Bubpy
F8: Woodpy
F9: Shynpy
F10: Badpy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 26, 2014, 01:36:55 PM
Hmm. I think I can do five and seven, but not sure how to get around six. And the reward for six is the main thing I'm after. Wish my Zhuge or Athena team was done, but since it isn't I don't really have a burst team at all. I can do x9 healers, but that doesn't seem like enough by a long shot.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Jq1790 on November 26, 2014, 01:40:23 PM
1.5m Light Exp!?  Gimme that!  Gotta do my research now...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 01:50:47 PM
Hmm. I think I can do five and seven, but not sure how to get around six. And the reward for six is the main thing I'm after. Wish my Zhuge or Athena team was done, but since it isn't I don't really have a burst team at all. I can do x9 healers, but that doesn't seem like enough by a long shot.

Worst case scenario, I think you can stone these. I am not sure on that one. I personally probably won't make it past 5, but I don't really need Pys specifically right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 26, 2014, 02:22:58 PM
sucks for anyone who needs badpy because ahahahahaha

also oh baby dat hera
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 02:30:02 PM
I think the only thing anyone really needs badpy for is ultimate DMeta or those hoboes that use ultimate Beelzebub. Though this is balanced out by the fact that Dark Alt. Dungeons are absolutely thrashed by Athena. (At least, the current one drops the Py of the correct element.)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 26, 2014, 03:01:19 PM
sucks for anyone who needs badpy because ahahahahaha

also oh baby dat hera

The 2nd Challenge Dungeon reverses the order so Badpy is first.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 26, 2014, 03:34:37 PM
Challenge dungeons, huh?

1 - 3: anything
4: Lucifer
5: Lucifer with bind clear
6: Izanami Descended
7: Lucifer

And I think that's about where my limit is because twinlits on floor 1 of stage 8 is hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 26, 2014, 03:37:20 PM
...how on earth are you supposed to do the challenge dungeon with the ancient masks and still beat hard hitting bosses with millions of HP
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 26, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
Worst case scenario, I think you can stone these. I am not sure on that one. I personally probably won't make it past 5, but I don't really need Pys specifically right now.

Unless the rules are different between Level 10 and the others, you can stone them, so don't feel too bad if you have to pop a stone on level 5 since you get one from beating levels 1~3 anyway.

Since level 5 is B/D vamp duke that means my monored probably won't be able to deal with him, so I'll probably have to bring out either the LMeta or the Horus teams.

I hope I don't have to throw too many stones at the screen :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 26, 2014, 04:31:08 PM
Bluh I want Bubpy but level 7 looks impossible for mebecause i have to fight isis noo i cant do it ;-;

Thoth and Sop are the actual hardest part though like arg wtf. With Isis Ra you can burst down the Blue mask + Ra active to kill the green and Ra active also kills himself. General burst beats Cleo and Isis, but Thoth and Sop are just ???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 26, 2014, 04:45:51 PM
Thoth and Sop are the actual hardest part though like arg wtf. With Isis Ra you can burst down the Blue mask + Ra active to kill the green and Ra active also kills himself. General burst beats Cleo and Isis, but Thoth and Sop are just ???

Since you have to kill both, you either get lucky with your skyfalls and get a 5 orb match somewhere, or bring echidna or something to delay sopdet while you destroy thoth, then kill sopdet before she revives him.

That's what I can think of, tbh
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 26, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
Thoth and Sop are the actual hardest part though like arg wtf. With Isis Ra you can burst down the Blue mask + Ra active to kill the green and Ra active also kills himself. General burst beats Cleo and Isis, but Thoth and Sop are just ???

What I'll probably end up doing is 3grav + Grape Dragon; that'll be enough to take down Cleopatra, the hearts will let me heal up for the masks and then just fight them as normal, and Sopdet constantly makes hearts so I shouldn't (question mark?) have too many problems there. Then again, they're a little stronger than their Mythical selves, so I may be overestimating myself. Plus if Thoth manages to bind both Lucis I'm not making it out of there.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 26, 2014, 05:07:14 PM
Blah maybe I should just wait until I have God Isis then I can just Two Prong em to death

Although Challenge Dungeons seem to change every time so fuck
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 26, 2014, 05:17:20 PM
Which reminds me: Have the armored knights ever been part of a godfest in JP?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
Which reminds me: Have the armored knights ever been part of a godfest in JP?

They are like Wizards/Riders/Ninjas, a special set of powerful gold egg subs and instead get Carnivals (apparently JP got a carnival for them upon release like how we did for the Wizards so ????)

Also re Level 7 aka Egypt level, I think T&S are actually the easiest part, because you get hearts every turn, and a lot of them. If you have enough HP to take a hit from both of them above critical levels, you should be able to do it. The hard part for me is Ra because it is literally impossible to defeat him in four turns unless I bring Bane.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 26, 2014, 07:57:02 PM
You actually get 5 turns, so you need to deal 10 damage per turn
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 08:24:49 PM
Oh dang,  you do. I can attack priority guize

I guess it'll be my normal team again??? I'll find out when I get there, I guess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 26, 2014, 09:03:57 PM
Lv6.... not you again  :fail:

Don't even know if i will reach her and i already hate that stage....


Quote
Perseus UVO
New Awakenings: Skill Block, Skill Boost, Finger

I read this while at work this morning.... i almost burst out laughing in front of my boss  :D


EDIT: urgh, finally got Hera-Sowilo. 5 runs to drop her.... and not a single invade  :qq:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 26, 2014, 09:20:29 PM
Is this a viable Athena team?

Athena/Verche/Apollo/Perseus/GZL/Athena

I'm realizing that I really don't have solid subs for GZL, so I think I'm going to focus on the Athena team first. Really wish Michael was a better fit, but he changes away light orbs so he doesn't quite work. Would also like to fit Ra in there for the extra finger (maybe replacing Apollo, at least until I can skill him up? I'd also be just a little worried about his active flooding the screen with too many light orbs and making prongs harder).

Since you have to kill both, you either get lucky with your skyfalls and get a 5 orb match somewhere, or bring echidna or something to delay sopdet while you destroy thoth, then kill sopdet before she revives him.

That's what I can think of, tbh
Also re Level 7 aka Egypt level, I think T&S are actually the easiest part, because you get hearts every turn, and a lot of them. If you have enough HP to take a hit from both of them above critical levels, you should be able to do it.

A team with a lot of recovery can live forever against T&S, so you can stall for dozens and dozens of turns and wait for the right time to take them both down with rows. You have to get a turn where the board is just perfect to both do the damage and hit the combo requirement and have a non-key sub bound, but theoretically you should have the time. Easier if you have a delay for Sopdet. But for a team with appropriate recovery they're one of the easier bosses.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 09:27:39 PM
Is this a viable Athena team?

Athena/Verche/Apollo/Perseus/GZL/Athena

If you're farming Alt. dungeons, swap Apollo out for Valk unless he is max skilled. Actually, maybe even then - still swap him out. You absolutely cannot afford to get caught with your pants down at any moment, so the 5 turn CD is crucial.

A team with a lot of recovery can live forever against T&S, so you can stall for dozens and dozens of turns and wait for the right time to take them both down with rows. You have to get a turn where the board is just perfect to both do the damage and hit the combo requirement and have a non-key sub bound, but theoretically you should have the time. Easier if you have a delay for Sopdet. But for a team with appropriate recovery they're one of the easier bosses.

My default farming team(tm) has over 3000 RCV and Angelion as the heartmaker + 1000 Autoheal + Ecchi, so for the most part it meets all those requirements and I am therefore not worried. My actual worry is everything else.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 26, 2014, 09:49:27 PM
If you're farming Alt. dungeons, swap Apollo out for Valk unless he is max skilled. Actually, maybe even then - still swap him out. You absolutely cannot afford to get caught with your pants down at any moment, so the 5 turn CD is crucial.

Fair enough. I think my Valkyrie is still a little off from maxed, but Poring Tower is back soon, so whatever. And she'll even be getting God typing soon enough, so I can just make sure to grab two Extreme Kings from their dungeon.

My default farming team(tm) has over 3000 RCV and Angelion as the heartmaker + 1000 Autoheal + Ecchi, so for the most part it meets all those requirements and I am therefore not worried. My actual worry is everything else.

The bind resist on Angelion means that eventually Thoth will aim for it and miss, meaning you should be able to burst even more easily assuming your orbs aren't terrible because you'll have your whole team to attack with. Should work, I would hope. But yeah, everything else super scary. I'm not that scared of Ra since I have a monocolor team with orbchangers (although two of my guys don't have sub-elements, so I would need to hit both of my colors all the time), but it's still a real mess.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 26, 2014, 10:18:29 PM
My current alt farming team is:

Athena/Verche (max skill)/Apollo (skill 3?)/Thor/GOdin/Athena.

It is indeed bad to be caught with no light orbs, but do also remember that doing green TPA will also wipe out most scrubs too. Not always, but you have a chance. I don't have a max skill Valk so Apollo does just fine and I can't say I've ever needed him before the boss, dublits aside (I use Verche on mini-bosses). Though I will make a note that Apollo sometimes actually makes doing TPA harder because sometimes you'll end up with too many orbs on the screen at once. Not that it's that big of a deal, because even then, an Athena enhancement + Thor's light enhancement works quite well enough to OHKO some bosses. Especially Thanatos right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 26, 2014, 10:25:18 PM
The nice thing about TPA is it's a bonus rather than a requirement, so if you can't get 4 orbs exactly you can still hit hard, whereas if it was a leader skill you'd be screwed *coughallhighcomboandhpbasedleaderscough*
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 26, 2014, 11:26:48 PM
The bind resist on Angelion means that eventually Thoth will aim for it and miss, meaning you should be able to burst even more easily assuming your orbs aren't terrible because you'll have your whole team to attack with. Should work, I would hope. But yeah, everything else super scary. I'm not that scared of Ra since I have a monocolor team with orbchangers (although two of my guys don't have sub-elements, so I would need to hit both of my colors all the time), but it's still a real mess.

My default team consists of (old screenshot)

(http://i.imgur.com/vgnr1R3.png)

Alraune may also resist binds and removes them (and Thoth has repeatedly tried to bind her on Legend and failed.), so I can pretty much just bat an eyelash at Thoth's bind move. I also don't run HP-modifying leaders so even if one gets bound all I have to do is ride it out in the worst case scenario. Everyone on the team is also max skilled except Bastet, who has one skillup.
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 12:18:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/MZ8xOV6.jpg)

this must be what it feels like to have power
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 27, 2014, 12:43:11 AM
No one cares about Perseus? He has two skill boosts AND two skill resists. Now with just one skill-resist, which you can get in guys like Micheal, Kushinada or even Kano. You'll have your most spammable orb-changers up(and then some more likely) and 100% skill-resistance. The time bonus is icing on the cake. Surely that's worth talking about. At least you can speculate what Pano will get based off of it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2014, 12:46:21 AM
no one cares because eventually pandora will get the same buff and she'll become the ultimate waifu :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Chaore on November 27, 2014, 01:01:13 AM
It's nice but the deal with perseus was always his subs tbh iirc
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 01:02:19 AM
No one cares about Perseus? He has two skill boosts AND two skill resists. Now with just one skill-resist, which you can get in guys like Micheal, Kushinada or even Kano. You'll have your most spammable orb-changers up(and then some more likely) and 100% skill-resistance. The time bonus is icing on the cake. Surely that's worth talking about. At least you can speculate what Pano will get based off of it.

I caaaare. He went from "What will I do with this?" to "Oh yeah, he could go on Athena the whole time". And I've already got Michael and Kano as well. Too bad he's such a bastard to skill up or I would strongly consider using him as a leader.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 27, 2014, 01:26:01 AM
I caaaare. He went from "What will I do with this?" to "Oh yeah, he could go on Athena the whole time". And I've already got Michael and Kano as well. Too bad he's such a bastard to skill up or I would strongly consider using him as a leader.

I don' t he needs to be skilled up that badly tbh. It'd be nice yeah, and it would help a lot but with the amount skill boosts people like to run, I think Perseus can live unskilled.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 01:33:53 AM
I'm not clear on how "no recovery" dungeons work. Is it just that there are no heart orbs that appear naturally, or can you actually not recover through any means? Basically, do you think a full-on stall team with loads of heartmakers stands a chance on floor six? As usual for slow teams the oni would be the hard part, but I might be able to handle them with Noah+gravity and maybe a stone or two for the second one. Or maybe it's just a terrible idea, but it's possibly the best I got. I could try the spikiest healer team I can put together (although I think that would involve Kushi and I still don't know anyone with a uvo one) and throw stones at the wall too, but that would be p-a-i-n-f-u-l.

I don' t he needs to be skilled up that badly tbh. It'd be nice yeah, and it would help a lot but with the amount skill boosts people like to run, I think Perseus can live unskilled.

As a sub I agree, but on a Perseus team wouldn't you pretty much need all skillmaxed orbachangers, or as close to max as you can get? Seems like running out of steam in a Mythical dungeon would just insta-kill you.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 27, 2014, 01:42:30 AM
I'm not clear on how "no recovery" dungeons work. Is it just that there are no heart orbs that appear naturally, or can you actually not recover through any means? Basically, do you think a full-on stall team with loads of heartmakers stands a chance on floor six? As usual for slow teams the oni would be the hard part, but I might be able to handle them with Noah+gravity and maybe a stone or two for the second one. Or maybe it's just a terrible idea, but it's possibly the best I got. I could try the spikiest healer team I can put together (although I think that would involve Kushi and I still don't know anyone with a uvo one) and throw stones at the wall too, but that would be p-a-i-n-f-u-l.

As a sub I agree, but on a Perseus team wouldn't you pretty much need all skillmaxed orbachangers, or as close to max as you can get? Seems like running out of steam in a Mythical dungeon would just insta-kill you.

Eh. A lot of the new ones don't quite instakill you(they find other sources of BS instead. If you're careful, you can get by with 2-3 orbchangers. Honestly I then being max-skllled would be more important as a sub.

No-RCV means no heart drops. That's it. Heartmakers and other sources of healing are fair game. Idk how leveled your green stuff is, but Perseus, might be worth a look for you for deal with No=RCV stuff.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 02:18:20 AM
Eh. A lot of the new ones don't quite instakill you(they find other sources of BS instead. If you're careful, you can get by with 2-3 orbchangers. Honestly I then being max-skllled would be more important as a sub.

No-RCV means no heart drops. That's it. Heartmakers and other sources of healing are fair game. Idk how leveled your green stuff is, but Perseus, might be worth a look for you for deal with No=RCV stuff.

My Perseus has never been touched. Honestly he's probably never even been looked at. I pulled him and kind of forgot about him until a couple days ago. None of my stuff is leveled at all except blue healers, so whatever I use to clear it it pretty much has to be blue healers (or Noah I guess, who's level ~80 for my Legendary Seaway team). I finished completely leveling everyone a few hours ago though, so starting with tonight's King Carnival I can finally begin to work hard on a second team with my full attention.
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 05:53:39 AM
God Valk Arts released
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537836997860024321 Light
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837197068488704 Fire
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837424286527488 Water
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837561192796160 Wood
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837697042112513 Dark

Bonus:
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537836103974141952 Completed Hera-Is UVO art
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Post by: Chaore on November 27, 2014, 06:00:38 AM
WANT.

SO BADLY.
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 06:12:20 AM
WANT.

SO BADLY.

You have a valk at least!

I don't have any :fail:

EDIT
All Valks get a TPA awakening.

Yes this means Light Valk is still fukt because she only has 1 TPA while everybody else has 2 TPA.
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 06:54:49 AM
God Valk Arts released
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537836997860024321 Light
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837197068488704 Fire
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837424286527488 Water
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837561192796160 Wood
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837697042112513 Dark

Bonus:
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537836103974141952 Completed Hera-Is UVO art

Eeeeexcellent. I'm lucky, I think blue Valkyrie is the nicest looking of them. Now I want stats. STATS!
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 07:02:52 AM
Eeeeexcellent. I'm lucky, I think blue Valkyrie is the nicest looking of them. Now I want stats. STATS!

All Valks get:
+200 HP, +200 ATK
A TPA awakening
LS: x3 ATK to God and Healer types

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537861687328514048
Ultimate Insect Dragon "Swallowtail"
AS: Five Flower Pollen (Max CD: 6) - For 3 turns, your time to manipulate orbs is extended by 1 second. Also, enemies are poisoned
LS: When matching 2 times Dark orbs, ATK x3

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537862202921734145
Starling UVO
AS: Aqua Leaf Prism (Max CD: 8 ) - Light --> Water, Hearts --> Wood. For 1 turn, your time to manipulate orbs is extended by 2 seconds.
LS: When matching either Water/Water or Water/Wood, ATK x3. When matching Water/Water/Wood, ATK x3.5

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537862708012388353
Hera-is UVO
AS: (new) Freezing Gravity (Max CD: 12) - Enhance all Water orbs. 10% Grav to all enemies.
LS: When HP is above 50%, ATK x3 and RCV x1.5 to all God and Devil types (!!!!!!!!!!!)

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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 07:09:11 AM
sadflkhsdkfjhasdkfjsahdflkjd

STARLING FOR BEST DRAGON NOTHING ELSE MATTERS :*
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 07:14:58 AM
Yeah, I completely neglected to note that the Starling UVO is Dragon/God. Wow.
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Post by: Bio on November 27, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
Ah more >50% RCU multipliers without additional HP.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 08:22:59 AM
DO NOT TRUST HOW EASY THE LEVEL 5 DUNGEON IS

IT IS NOT. THE FIRST WAVES ARE DECEPTIVE AND LAUGHABLY SIMPLE AND THEN

THREE PYS IN ONE WAVE CAN AND WILL KILL YOU MANY TIMES

Three stones gone but at least I have my Blanc ;w;
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Post by: Espadas on November 27, 2014, 09:35:12 AM
God Valk Arts released
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537836997860024321 Light
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837197068488704 Fire
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837424286527488 Water
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837561192796160 Wood
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537837697042112513 Dark

Bonus:
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537836103974141952 Completed Hera-Is UVO art

They are damn beautiful!

Fire: that is some serious zweihander....
Water: am i the only one who see Cassandra of Soul Calibur?
Dark:  white hair, red eyes, hugeass scythe, wear black, has shadows around her.... are we talking about a valkyrie or a vampire/grim reaper?
Hera-Is: i find amusing that she has a kind of ahoge going through her "ice halo"  :3

Quote
AS: (new) Freezing Gravity (Max CD: 12) - Enhance all Water orbs. 10% Grav to all enemies.
LS: When HP is above 50%, ATK x3 and RCV x1.5 to all God and Devil types

Isn't her new AS kind of a nerf? the new enhance mechanic is good but i think her gravity lost too much power forget it, noticed just now the new CD....  :derp:
LS is goooood <3
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Post by: Bio on November 27, 2014, 09:49:28 AM
forget it, noticed just now the new CD....  :derp:
LS is goooood <3
It's unskillable. (well I mean really costly to skill)
e: Looks like its not final though?

In other news, the ultimate evos are here.
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Post by: Espadas on November 27, 2014, 09:52:33 AM
In other news, the ultimate evos are here.

Great, now i can uevo my Ron.... oh right i miss 3 red fruits and still not able to clear their dungeon.... :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 27, 2014, 09:56:33 AM
Suddenly I wake up and Blodin has 1.5x HP to God Types and my list is filled with mega ronias. What the hell guys

EDIT: After checking on how PDX worded it, it seems that 6hr maintenance was "not just for orb enhances" like people seemed to be thinking. They must have preloaded a shitton of data into the game, and god only knows what else could be in there besides this.
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 10:14:01 AM
It's unskillable. (well I mean really costly to skill)
e: Looks like its not final though?

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/537896851182067713

Could be changed. YamaP publicly apologizes for Hera-IS UVO current stats and says they will be changed before final release.
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Post by: Espadas on November 27, 2014, 10:49:46 AM
Best part of a tricolor dungeon: you oneshot anything without any effort

Worst part of a tricolor dungeon: every stage you have to wait 10 minutes for the skyfall combo to end while internally screaming "Stop, stop! It's dead, Jim!" and when it finally stops you unleash something that could oneshot Satan with 4/5 TPA added in for good measure against.... a Big Bubblie  :V
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Post by: Thaws on November 27, 2014, 11:04:04 AM
HELL YES VERY YES
DOUBLE TPA VALKYRIES... WITH SKILL BOOST OMG.
Wood fits perfectly in my Moonstet team. (Come on! Porin tower when!!!)

My dup water valk is actually a thing now.
I&I/U&Y/BlueValk/BlueValk/Gab/I&I

What is this Blue healers Double TPA team? :V if only I had hatsume :/
But the middle three getting *9*2.25 on TPA matches helps with the damage output so much on normal enemies/midbosses because we all know healers have meh ATKs.

I need moar Extreme Metal Dragons :<

I had trouble assembling five SBs on blue healers without Hatsume so that SB is soooo great.
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 27, 2014, 11:16:29 AM
Great. New ult evos are here. And I still don't have a Ronia. :V
I hope this coming Player's Choice Godfest changes that.
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Post by: Yukarin on November 27, 2014, 11:34:01 AM
sad that super uevo valk doesn't have double tpa

sad
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 12:05:42 PM
sad that super uevo valk doesn't have double tpa

sad

Clarify, you meant Light Valk, right? Because the REM valks all do get double TPA.

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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 27, 2014, 12:10:10 PM
One TPA is better than nothing though, this makes her a very solid candidate for an Athena team, the light orb enhance awakening helps a little too, her leader skill is nothing to sneeze at now (though admittedly if you're going for an Extreme Dragon King to get this uvo you probably already have Athena or something to that effect)

EDIT: After checking on how PDX worded it, it seems that 6hr maintenance was "not just for orb enhances" like people seemed to be thinking. They must have preloaded a shitton of data into the game, and god only knows what else could be in there besides this.

Just like I thought, maint time was also spent on putting in more content for the game, why they didn't activate the content immediately is anyone's guess (maybe they wanted to let a few days sink in for the lollipop folks so they could get a few bug reports and work on them?). According to pdx, Kanetsugu is also in the game now, , and Armored Knights are also a thing now iirc so that's a lot of freaking content.

Assuming that's not all they put in, I'd wager they already put in a few bits and pieces of the next two balances and probably a little bit of the next few descends as well.
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Post by: Yukarin on November 27, 2014, 12:16:28 PM
Clarify, you meant Light Valk, right? Because the REM valks all do get double TPA.

oh right light valk

this makes me want a dark valk now too
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 12:57:53 PM
http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141127_sinka.html

Hera-Is update.
LS: x3 ATK for God and Devil types when above 50% HP. When below 50% HP, x1.5 RCV for Devil types.
+100 ATK Awakening --> Skill Boost

Just like I thought, maint time was also spent on putting in more content for the game, why they didn't activate the content immediately is anyone's guess (maybe they wanted to let a few days sink in for the lollipop folks so they could get a few bug reports and work on them?). According to pdx, Kanetsugu is also in the game now, , and Armored Knights are also a thing now iirc so that's a lot of freaking content.


did you miss the memo when they said Kanetsugu was going to be Streamed by #TeamAntonio?
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 27, 2014, 01:25:08 PM
did you miss the memo when they said Kanetsugu was going to be Streamed by #TeamAntonio?

I actually did :derp:

Just got through challenge dungeon 5 with my LMeta team, lost one stone to lilith and one stone to the vamp duke, also couldn't really OHK the duke but hey, I did it in the end.

With my LMeta already max level though, I don't really know who to give my blanc to, my valk, probably, though that will take a while since my Valk is still in her first form.

Also, holy fuck did the buff to LMeta's LS make a huge difference, my measly 9k HP turned to an easy 15k, allowing me to survive a hit from a mask that would have otherwise killed me as well as a hit from Lilith.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 01:31:20 PM
Oh lord I have waited so, so, so long.

(http://i.imgur.com/tba8ZZG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bNkpuBk.jpg)

:*

Also you have served your purpose, dear badpy.

(http://i.imgur.com/buSaJh2.jpg)

I am so so happy but ever so unprepared! I absolutely must collect tamadra, devilits, and Exp to make the team I've been trying to set up for months now.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 27, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
Hera-Is update.
LS: x3 ATK for God and Devil types when above 50% HP. When below 50% HP, x1.5 RCV for Devil types.
+100 ATK Awakening --> Skill Boost

It took them this long to finally do an LS like that wow

Just like I thought, maint time was also spent on putting in more content for the game, why they didn't activate the content immediately is anyone's guess


Additional testing on their end, probably. I've seen far too many anticipated patch releases for overseas version games go badly within the hour of release, prompting yet another maintenance... and another(cough mabinogi cough)
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 02:13:39 PM
Wait, I don't have to do challenge dungeons in order to get the rewards? Take that floor six! However, floor six still has the one reward I really want. Hmm...

All Valks get:
+200 HP, +200 ATK
A TPA awakening
LS: x3 ATK to God and Healer

That's all fantastic and I'm excited about it, but I am just a liiiitle disappointed her leader skill os still kind of weak. Definitely times it could come in handy, but I don't think it's big enough to make her a viable endgame leader.

Everything else is amazing though. Double prong is great, stats are great, and the subtyping makes the non-blue or white ones much more viable subs on some teams. And the white one is now a perfect Athena sub. Not bad at all.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 27, 2014, 02:33:28 PM
I think the best part about the ultimate Valks is the artwork, they did an excellent job giving them all personality.
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Post by: Bio on November 27, 2014, 02:46:37 PM
As it turns out "Warrior Rose" meant that Rose was actually her name.
Dark is Claire.
Fire is Fam.
Water is Lain.
Wood is Elise or Elize.
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Post by: triangles on November 27, 2014, 02:48:56 PM
I think the best part about the ultimate Valks is the artwork, they did an excellent job giving them all personality.
This is true, they really knocked it out of the park with them instead of the prior palatte swap and they look really swanky I want more of them now.
Also LMeta leader skill update yesss time for the fun to begin!
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 03:07:55 PM
That's all fantastic and I'm excited about it, but I am just a liiiitle disappointed her leader skill os still kind of weak. Definitely times it could come in handy, but I don't think it's big enough to make her a viable endgame leader.

Athena is x3 ATK to God as well but you don't see people saying that she's weak.........................................
(Ignore the fact she has x1.35 HP)

As it turns out "Warrior Rose" meant that Rose was actually her name.
Dark is Claire.
Fire is Fam.
Water is Lain.
Wood is Elise or Elize.

Fire is Femme and Water is Reine.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 27, 2014, 03:10:10 PM
Athena is x3 ATK to God as well but you don't see people saying that she's weak.........................................

WHO IS THE SUB NOW?
But if you're going Valk and Athena you probably want TPA. Supergirl is the only light healer that I know that can contribute to the TPAing.
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 03:14:11 PM
WHO IS THE SUB NOW?
But if you're going Valk and Athena you probably want TPA. Supergirl is the only light healer that I know that can contribute to the TPAing.

Green Valk works just fine.
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Post by: Bio on November 27, 2014, 03:16:46 PM
Fire is Femme and Water is Reine.
That would most likely be what they will be called when brought to English, but Fire still feels weird (it being ファ rather than フェ or something).
But I can't think of a better sounding name.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Green Valk is the one I'll be evolving. She's easier to skill up, works perfectly on my Athena team, and isn't perpetually fucked over like light Valk is.
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Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
oh god all of these new monsters i want them all

especially blue valk now that she's a god type (and she looks like saber... all of them look like saber)

oh starling is a god type too aaaaa. double orb change isn't too good for Isis or any of the 4 color leaders but dat leader skill is chinese girl tier oh man starling is in independent dragon who dont need no rem leader

Hera-Is tho... super sexy but loses dark subtype, new skill so old skillups go to waste, awakenings aren't as good as Hera-Ur (who got two prong, fire row, AND skill boost), and her leader skill isn't really anything special. If you're building devil then might as well use Hera-Ur for the unconditional x3. If you want gods then you're still better off with someone else like the new Valks. She doesn't even gain any stats except for 100 atk wtf?? Hera-Ur is basically better in every single way >___>


oh hey ulti satan i just happen to have 4 useless devilits sitting around ok time to.... gold keeper FUCK
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 03:33:16 PM
Athena is x3 ATK to God as well but you don't see people saying that she's weak.........................................
(Ignore the fact she has x1.35 HP)

Fire is Femme and Water is Reine.

I&I is also fairly viable and is x3 attack, but the HP boost matters a lot. x3 by itself is juuust under good enough. Maybe I'm underestimating how useful that typing combination is, but in my experience that basic leader skill struggles in anything past the easiest Mythical stuff.
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Post by: Bio on November 27, 2014, 03:51:36 PM
I&I is also fairly viable and is x3 attack, but the HP boost matters a lot. x3 by itself is juuust under good enough. Maybe I'm underestimating how useful that typing combination is, but in my experience that basic leader skill struggles in anything past the easiest Mythical stuff.
I&I gives you 4 rows.  Athena gives you prongs.  Hera Ur provides some rows and has access to RSonia while being on color. You have BOdins as Hera Is but BSonia is pretty much better. You also get Skuld but BSonia gets her too (though you wouldn't use her) . The only major thing you have going is Muse. Oh and Karin is useful (rejoice!) You can stack a bunch of water orb enhance with UY and Skuld though and then with Muse make a god two prong enhance kind of team.
e: Neglected to mentioned Skuld/Hermes is full blue board.
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Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2014, 03:55:49 PM
DO NOT TRUST HOW EASY THE LEVEL 5 DUNGEON IS

IT IS NOT. THE FIRST WAVES ARE DECEPTIVE AND LAUGHABLY SIMPLE AND THEN

THREE PYS IN ONE WAVE CAN AND WILL KILL YOU MANY TIMES

Three stones gone but at least I have my Blanc ;w;
holy shit thanks for the heads up

i just barely managed to survive the py onslaught by like 100 hp oh god
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 03:58:05 PM
I would have been fine had I not been constantly heart starved. And Odin's Gungnir was of no use for healing when their defenses are so high. ;____;
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 27, 2014, 03:59:34 PM
level five is definitely not safe TAMADRApurin territory if Pis are that common.

Back to the drawing board, I guess.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 04:02:02 PM
Honestly I was fine with popping some stones for it because dear god I didn't want to bash my head against that forever. The reward is FANTASTIC and you only have to do it once. I didn't want to use THREE but I won't complain because I have myself a pretty Max Blanc for it. Now to decide who to give it to...

Really, if you bring poison with you, you should be fine. I didn't see any Pys until after round 5, so you should have some time to stall it up.
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Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2014, 04:14:41 PM
I had to use echidna twice to beat them

Floor 7 has 2 pys so I just used Echidna

Floor 8 had masks AND 2 pys so I had to stall until Echidna was up again and I almost died
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 04:17:07 PM
I don't really have to care about Pys. I got 50k HP, so I can take hits for years. That's handy.

especially blue valk now that she's a god type (and she looks like saber... all of them look like saber)

I'm still casting my vote for Noah in the Saber lookalike contest. She's definitely got the skirt thing going. Although Valkyries have the sword thing.
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Post by: Espadas on November 27, 2014, 04:49:34 PM
I would have been fine had I not been constantly heart starved. And Odin's Gungnir was of no use for healing when their defenses are so high. ;____;

Speaking of high defenses, isn't the new addition to GZL's active a bit.... useless?
I mean, how many bosses are there that you couldn't already pierce with a GZL that got x2 + whatever multiplier your team have? I did a quick search in the "standard mythical" descent and found only 6 enemies that might need the actual halved armor....

The grand majority are either overwhelmed without it, or with a defense so great not even the new addition would help (like the pys)....
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 27, 2014, 06:02:53 PM
Cleared Py Hell(name pending) without dying.

I had 3 Badpy show up as battle 6, but 2 of them were on 2 timer, and Bastet's spreadcat was still active from the 2 demons. rip pys
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 06:54:27 PM
Yeah mine was 1/2/1 cd pys with an extra enemy at the side. I didn't stand a chance.
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Post by: Jq1790 on November 27, 2014, 07:02:22 PM
Yeah, I'm definitely packing a team that uses Lilith for that. Not even gonna mess with that kinda happening.  Of course, if I get two consecutive floors like that I'm still just as screwed, but so is probably anybody else not facetanking them so...
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Post by: Thaws on November 27, 2014, 07:41:36 PM
I just use Bastet and hope Spreadcat carries me through. Though luckily never encountered more than 2 Piis at once :V

The valkyries need one jewel of each their main and sub colour to ult-uevo... what the hell gungho! They should at least give them more stat boost than just 100ATK if the evo mats are so rare :V :V :V

I'm very lacking in light jewels :qq: need two for my two blue valks and one for amaterasu...
Have two blue jewejs but one is for Starling.
Needs a green for Green valk too...
Now I'm hesitant in ult-uevoing Light Valk, though the god type is nice...
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Post by: Jq1790 on November 27, 2014, 07:45:20 PM
Glad I have plenty of time before I get to deal with that orb hunting...  Not looking forward to the hassle that that's gonna be.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 27, 2014, 07:48:18 PM
I just use Bastet and hope Spreadcat carries me through. Though luckily never encountered more than 2 Piis at once :V

The valkyries need one jewel of each their main and sub colour to ult-uevo... what the hell gungho! They should at least give them more stat boost than just 100ATK if the evo mats are so rare :V :V :V

I'm very lacking in light jewels :qq: need two for my two blue valks and one for amaterasu...
Have two blue jewejs but one is for Starling.
Needs a green for Green valk too...
Now I'm hesitant in ult-uevoing Light Valk, though the god type is nice...

are you fucking telling me i need another green jewel

:persona: :persona: :persona: :persona: :persona:

I got a light jewel from the PEM today though but ult light valk is the one I want least because she's pretty terrible compared to the rest.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 27, 2014, 08:19:29 PM
are you fucking telling me i need another green jewel

Something tells me I fucked everything up somehow by initiating that pal pull with the wood jewel yesterday

In all seriousness though I do not care if she has only one TPA, not like there's a light equivalent so I'm hopping on this shit immediately once I hear word it's coming. Must destroy alt dungeons harder
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Post by: Jq1790 on November 27, 2014, 08:23:55 PM
Something tells me I fucked everything up somehow by initiating that pal pull with the wood jewel yesterday

In all seriousness though I do not care if she has only one TPA, not like there's a light equivalent so I'm hopping on this shit immediately once I hear word it's coming. Must destroy alt dungeons harder
I'll take what I can get.  She'll work quite nicely having that as an extra option, plus as others have said she becomes Athena-compatible as well which is nice.  Given that Athena's insanely powerful and LValk breaks stuff into light, well...

Also the chance of increased damage when I get my light-focused LMeta team online is definitely gonna be appreciated.
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Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
I... I think I want Blue Valk more than Nut now. Double two prong is too good.

Can special valks show up in the REM normally or is it only during special carnivals?
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 27, 2014, 09:11:52 PM
Can special valks show up in the REM normally or is it only during special carnivals?

All five Valks are in the REM at all times. I think they are firmly in the same category as Ninjas/Riders/Wizards/ArmorKnights/PADZ golds
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Post by: Chaore on November 27, 2014, 09:31:34 PM
guys but light healer has LZhuge who has a built in enhance so the extra orb enhance is goooddddahahahahahahaaaa

rip light valk, always the least favorite sister
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Post by: Jq1790 on November 27, 2014, 09:40:33 PM
guys but light healer has LZhuge who has a built in enhance so the extra orb enhance is goooddddahahahahahahaaaa

rip light valk, always the least favorite sister
Simply because she's got the ability to be farmed, no doubt.
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Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
All five Valks are in the REM at all times. I think they are firmly in the same category as Ninjas/Riders/Wizards/ArmorKnights/PADZ golds
They don't seem to be boosted during regular carnivals though unlike the others :ohdear:

Anyways the more potential targets the better I suppose, so as long as I pull any one of the sub I need of each color I'm good. The only guy I absolutely need is Muse since he lets me go God Isis in the first place.
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 10:06:23 PM
Beat Pypocalypse with little trouble, but I can see how a normal team would have a lot of trouble with it. Damn.

Also ground out a green keeper from stone dragon cave, and went from having an unevolved Athena to a level 70 ultimate Athena in like twenty minutes. Thanks challenge dungeooooon. :D
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Post by: Espadas on November 27, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
1-stoned Pys Carnival..... and i feel like an idiot.

I survived 2 rounds back-to-back with demon + 2 pys followed by mask + 2 pys and i died to freaking round FIVE! Of course the first demon had to survive with an invisible amount of life and immediately trounce me with Evil Slash....

At least i don't have to redo it..... although now there is Izanami, someone please have mercy and shoot me  :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 10:56:03 PM
Just noticed that I got really lucky on orb placement this time around. Thoth And Sopdet has the blue one I need for my Valkyrie, and Takeminakata has the white one. Those might be the two easiest mythical dungeons for me in the game, aside from maybe Athena. They're not on 1.5 invade rates right now, are they? Hera-Is also has the green orb that I need for white Valkyrie, but I'm not certain how easy it is for me on Mythical. I pretty much have to go into the last floor with all of my skills up and I don't know how likely it is I can take down floor five without popping anything. Should work, but not sure.
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Post by: trancehime on November 27, 2014, 11:17:04 PM
That would most likely be what they will be called when brought to English, but Fire still feels weird (it being ファ rather than フェ or something).
But I can't think of a better sounding name.

that's how Japan wrie the word because it the closest pronunciation to actual French
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Post by: Suikama on November 27, 2014, 11:30:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MHKCUV0.jpg)

looks like someone was prepared for today :V
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 27, 2014, 11:37:36 PM
Went through Py hell with Ceres but I only encountered light and dark pis.

That was underwhelming. Got Supergirl a lovely amount of experience for it.
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Post by: commandercool on November 27, 2014, 11:59:16 PM
Tried floor seven and did okay, but I couldn't beat it. Thoth and Sopdet are too buffed over their Mythical versions. The extra health takes them to a point where it's really, REALLY difficult for me to finish them off even under the most optimal conditions. And it's not the kind of thing stoning really helps with either. I lasted like sixty rounds against them and whittled them down a lot, but balancing all of their shit while keeping Sopdet from healing up off of accidental two-prongs and preventing either from dropping to critical health AND waiting for the right moment to leader swap and finish the is basically impossible.

I ended up at a point where I basically had to either hope for skyfall luck or seriously risk dropping Thoth below 20% and my HP was right to switch and the board wasn't completely fucked, but I couldn't hit Sopdet hard enough with the combo. If she didn't have the extra 700k health it might have been a different story, but she does so I guess I can't pull this off after all. Oh well, I tried. I was doing well there for a minute. I think I'm done with challenge tower for this time around, but at least I got some cool stuff out of it.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 12:09:03 AM
Just beat Lv6 with Athenas. Forgot to use GZL active with 7star+aegis but I somehow did enough damage to take down all 4.4M HP.

Lv7 is going to suck giant nuts isnt it
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 28, 2014, 01:01:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/sAg1EGpl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/sAg1EGp.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xKnj4EHl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/xKnj4EH.jpg)

no you
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 04:00:27 AM
welp almost beat Extreme Dragon Rush 2

but i forgot to use the right actives on the final boss

durrrr
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 28, 2014, 05:47:57 AM
yo I got a Mephisto skill up
still no invades

I could legitimately use Mephisto on TAMADRApurin. TPA and a row and a healing active is held useful.
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Post by: trancehime on November 28, 2014, 10:13:24 AM
coin dungeon rotation 6:

pirates
dragon plant infestation
reverse hypno forest ~ reverse talos abyss
pengdra village now costs 1M (used to be 1.5M)
Extreme Dragon Rush
Extreme Dragon Rush 2
King Carnival
Evo Mat Rush
NEW Extreme God Rush! (5 M)
NEW Extreme Hera Rush!  (5 M)
NEW Extreme Devil Rush! (5 M)
NEW Ultimate Dragon Rush (5 M)
Rare Evo Mat Rush
Tamadra Village


Mute Cocoon's dungeon contains a monster which skills up Durga.
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Post by: Edible on November 28, 2014, 01:29:45 PM
Poring village, how fortuitous you are.
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 03:21:14 PM
Wow uh challenge level 6 was surprisingly easy. Like easier than level 5 :V

...now i have 2 flampy and still no bubpy dammit


YES finally fucking beat Extreme Dragon Rush 2. Thank you DC collab for giving me chester active BV
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Post by: Espadas on November 28, 2014, 04:00:56 PM
"This godfest will feature top 20 from player-voted results with TRIPLE chance to drop!"

I was already getting ready to rant, then i noticed that the avatars shown below are actually all 30.... typo?

Oh and poor DQXQ was cut out from the triple chance because of a tie for place.
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 04:02:51 PM
20 would have been a lot better since with 30 the pool is more diluted and thus the odds of getting stuff like Kali is lower
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 28, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
Can't S-Rank Green chaser to save my life. Who said it was easy?
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Post by: Espadas on November 28, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
20 would have been a lot better since with 30 the pool is more diluted and thus the odds of getting stuff like Kali is lower

Since ranks 21 to 30 have some mons i really covet i wouldn't have been so happy about it  ;)

EDIT: besides, i always approach a godfest with the mindset "i'm not going to drop anything that i want" so for me more mons i actually want is better :P

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Can't S-Rank Green chaser to save my life. Who said it was easy?

*timidly raise hand*

although i did say "if you have Ronia"  :V
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Post by: Yukarin on November 28, 2014, 04:23:02 PM
Can't S-Rank Green chaser to save my life. Who said it was easy?

i remember doing the s-rank with a horus team

i spent like, 5 minutes per floor it was nervewracking
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 04:26:11 PM
Can't S-Rank Green chaser to save my life. Who said it was easy?
i did lol

basically use fire

horus + 1 stars is good too
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 28, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
i did lol

basically use fire

horus + 1 stars is good too

The only decent fire lead I have is Ur. Who was the other one? Isis?
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 04:35:54 PM
Obviously I used Isis :V

Isis, 4 1stars, and Horus. Horus did most of the damage though :V I think on the kodama I got a 5 match of red orbs in there which melted them. The Chaser took 2-3 turns.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 28, 2014, 04:47:26 PM
Obviously I used Isis :V

Isis, 4 1stars, and Horus. Horus did most of the damage though :V I think on the kodama I got a 5 match of red orbs in there which melted them. The Chaser took 2-3 turns.

How'd you deal with multiple mid ninjas?
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 04:50:13 PM
Horus one hit them. 60k def means I just need to have horus hit 30k attack, which isn't too hard with a good combo.
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Post by: commandercool on November 28, 2014, 05:51:36 PM
Oh come on, I've been sitting at maximum stamina for hours and none of my +297 I&I friends are up. I need to start farming Thoth And Sopdet.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 28, 2014, 06:02:09 PM
Horus one hit them. 60k def means I just need to have horus hit 30k attack, which isn't too hard with a good combo.

You'd need at least 5 red orbs on the board though, right?
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 06:13:10 PM
well yeah if there are multiple of them
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Post by: Espadas on November 28, 2014, 06:40:56 PM
The feeling when you evolve your Hera-Ur into her awoken version and immediately feed her 2 Super Ruby + a max level Snow Globe Rouge..... and she jumps from lv 1 to lv 66  :]

(if i had got a SUPER right there i probably would still be jumping off the walls...)
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Post by: commandercool on November 28, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
The feeling when you evolve your Hera-Ur into her awoken version and immediately feed her 2 Super Ruby + a max level Snow Globe Rouge..... and she jumps from lv 1 to lv 66  :]

(if i had got a SUPER right there i probably would still be jumping off the walls...)

Yup, I did exactly the same thing with ultimate Athena yesterday plus a gold queen, and I had my fingers crossed for a Super. No dice, but whatever, it was fun anyway.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 28, 2014, 07:43:27 PM
well yeah if there are multiple of them

Thanks for the idea. It was still pretty close, but I managed to do it with Cu Chu and R/R Horus(based Balance Buffs.) I had one R/R Horus on my list with +eggs, I didn't even know those guys existed :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 07:52:09 PM
Hey Suikama apparently we're the only people brave enough to attempt Return of the Dark King 2 judging from PDX Team Builds :V

#motkdominance
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Post by: Espadas on November 28, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Hey Suikama apparently we're the only people brave enough to attempt Return of the Dark King 2 judging from PDX Team Builds :V

#motkdominance

You guys are so pro!


A question: is King Mastering worth the hassle to get it? Ok, he bring truckloads of HP and Orb Refresh but in which kind of teams would he be used?

Btw, NOSTALGIA IS STRONG..... i so want to play RO again....  :qq:


EDIT: another question: should i use the tamadra i've stored with Awoken Hera-Ur? Keep in mind that i plan to run a Ronia team and someday turn her into our Dancing Queen.....
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 08:26:04 PM
Hey Suikama apparently we're the only people brave enough to attempt Return of the Dark King 2 judging from PDX Team Builds :V

#motkdominance
most of the builds is pretty much just luci, ronia, and kirin anyways :V

You guys are so pro!


A question: is King Mastering worth the hassle to get it? Ok, he bring truckloads of HP and Orb Shuffle but in which kind of teams would he be used?

Btw, NOSTALGIA IS STRONG..... i so want to play RO again....  :qq:
King Mastering is actually legit in Ra teams for clearing the board, although Dkali is 100% better in every way.

Well I guess Mastering does have one advantage in potentially giving a skill boost with skyfalls whenever he's used.
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Post by: commandercool on November 28, 2014, 08:28:38 PM
What do you guys think of Sopdet? Is she worth trying to build around? I kind of like the idea of this team for certain dungeons:

Sopdet/Athena/White Valkyrie/Vampire/Zeus or Echidna/Sopdet

People can say what they will about Spread Cats, but it has uses, and a farmable Spread Cats seems like it could come in handy for MultiPys, or, ironically, Sopdet's own dungeon. Not sure she's really worth trying to build an entire team around, and I never see Sopdets up on my friends list to getting a buddy for her might be hard, but it seems like a useful team to have in the back pocket for corner cases.

Also might make a solid S-Rank team if you can somehow get some skillups on her, since multi-target makes getting trolled less likely, she's extremely easy to activate, she has good attack, and she can use anything for subs.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
most of the builds is pretty much just luci, ronia, and kirin anyways :V

how the f would someone luci alt dungeons

EDIT: another question: should i use the tamadra i've stored with Awoken Hera-Ur? Keep in mind that i plan to run a Ronia team and someday turn her into our Dancing Queen.....

I have Dancing Ur, and I'm contemplating feeding the Flampy from Lv6 to her. I already fed the +3/+3/+3 Tama, but I really do think she's pretty solid. Great Awakenings, great balanced leader skill, Excellent HP, Excellent ATK, and fast-ish active skill. She might even sub on my Leilan team just because her stats and awakes are excellent to me. I'm honestly not sure if regular Hera-Ur is better than the ultimate form, but that one might be preference.
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Post by: Espadas on November 28, 2014, 08:35:11 PM
Personal opinion: she is basically like the Chinese girls, with a slightly better LS and a worse AS, so of course you can build a team around her.... although i think she really need an uevo to bring her on par with the Others

EDIT: Chirei snuck in before me. This post is obviously related to commander's question about Sopdet ;)
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 08:40:56 PM
how the f would someone luci alt dungeons

I have Dancing Ur, and I'm contemplating feeding the Flampy from Lv6 to her. I already fed the +3/+3/+3 Tama, but I really do think she's pretty solid. Great Awakenings, great balanced leader skill, Excellent HP, Excellent ATK, and fast-ish active skill. She might even sub on my Leilan team just because her stats and awakes are excellent to me. I'm honestly not sure if regular Hera-Ur is better than the ultimate form, but that one might be preference.
I mean most of the builds on PDX. Basically people only play those three teams and if there's an unconventional dungeon that isn't easily cleared with those three then they don't get touched (although I guess you could Ronia the alt dungeons maybe?)
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Post by: commandercool on November 28, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
Personal opinion: she is basically like the Chinese girls, with a slightly better LS and a worse AS, so of course you can build a team around her.... although i think she really need an uevo to bring her on par with the Others

EDIT: Chirei snuck in before me. This post is obviously related to commander's question about Sopdet ;)

The question is, does her massively worse active and awakenings make the difference? Seems to me like the active is a big reason to play Chinese.
I mean most of the builds on PDX. Basically people only play those three teams and if there's an unconventional dungeon that isn't easily cleared with those three then they don't get touched (although I guess you could Ronia the alt dungeons maybe?)

I don't know, PDX loves to try to use Ama/Godin for absolutely everything too. :wat:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 08:53:17 PM
I mean most of the builds on PDX. Basically people only play those three teams and if there's an unconventional dungeon that isn't easily cleared with those three then they don't get touched (although I guess you could Ronia the alt dungeons maybe?)

Oh. I think the alt dungeons can only be Ronia'd if you have enough Ronias, but then again that's the megawhale/boring way to beat the game anyway.

Now that I look at it you're right and that's a little disgusting. I should submit more R/G Leilan clears to avert this travesty.
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Post by: Espadas on November 28, 2014, 09:02:46 PM
The question is, does her massively worse active and awakenings make the difference? Seems to me like the active is a big reason to play Chinese.

That is why i said she needs an uevo.... right now she looks damn similar to pre-uevo Chinese girls.

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I don't know, PDX loves to try to use Ama/Godin for absolutely everything too. :wat:

Sorry, here i'll play devil's advocate. When you face a descent for the first time you only care about 2 things: clearing it and dropping the boss. Ama/Odin, when viable, is the safest build to achieve that.

Once you have better teams or you feel more confident you switch to spike teams to save time, but the first time it's normal going for the safe way, especially considering the stamina cost for every wipe.

I myself always check first for Ama/Odin or Odin/Odin strategies when i face a descent for the first time. Not a viable strat? Karin comes out to play  :)
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Post by: Chaore on November 28, 2014, 09:12:42 PM
how the f would someone luci alt dungeons

izanami spam

also potentially luci tpa later

edit: not actually tested, just the possible ways
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Post by: commandercool on November 28, 2014, 09:23:14 PM
Sorry, here i'll play devil's advocate. When you face a descent for the first time you only care about 2 things: clearing it and dropping the boss. Ama/Odin, when viable, is the safest build to achieve that.

Once you have better teams or you feel more confident you switch to spike teams to save time, but the first time it's normal going for the safe way, especially considering the stamina cost for every wipe.

I myself always check first for Ama/Odin or Odin/Odin strategies when i face a descent for the first time. Not a viable strat? Karin comes out to play  :)

Oh yes, it's not that I don't understand why people use that team. And to an extent I agree with it, pre-stamina buff. Scouting is a valuable thing, but the expectations it's created worry me a little. I know too many people who expect to always clear everything instantly because they'll only play extremely safe teams and then get mad when they can't. To a large extent the game designers' fault for putting that kind of strategy into the game, but I don't really approve of 100% safe teams. I play what basically is a stall team, I understand that not everyone wants to play mega-spike, but AmaGodin is too classically "cheap". I think it's bad for the game.

Obviously playstyles differ and goals differ, but when you say "the only thing that matters the first time is a guaranteed win" I can't get on board. Sometimes absolutely dominating at hard dungeons is fun for me, but a vast majority of the time I would rather comes extremely close to losing but just barely win in the end than win in a huge landslide. I play a lot of different games, from video to tabletop, and that's how I feel about all of them. Winning all of the time doesn't seem fun to me, and I can't really wrap my head around why it is for some people. If it's fun for you, great, I hope you have fun by all means. But I don't like or understand it most of the time.
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 09:36:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6KhEfby.jpg)

BV
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Post by: commandercool on November 28, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/6KhEfby.jpg)

BV

 :o

 8)
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 10:08:52 PM
izanami spam

also potentially luci tpa later

edit: not actually tested, just the possible ways

Might work for the nodupe ones I think, if light+blue lucis are used, but some of the enemies have massive HP and far from zero-defense amounts and TPA might not cut it. Ogres also hit for 110k+, and Diza will not save you from that.
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
If you have Izanami then you might as well use her as the leader for the alt dungeons since everything one hits you anyways :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 10:20:54 PM
If you have Izanami then you might as well use her as the leader for the alt dungeons since everything one hits you anyways :V

rdj and I actually contemplated this in the pad IRC many times but we were running into some sub trouble.

EDIT: Also running into a Py is an instant game over
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 10:29:21 PM
Bring Bane for Py lasering.

King Bubblie for Boss.

Then some kind of orb changer (Sieg/Gigas/Vamp)

and maybe a delay (batman?)
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 10:47:15 PM
What happens if you're like me and encounter Py on wave 1 :V

(I had this happen to me TWO times, so the danger is very real)
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Post by: Suikama on November 28, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
then rip


Wow Challenge 8 actually gets easier the farther you go in. Floor 1 is wtf twinlits how I dont have any skills to fight with and floor 2 is oh god Noah why do you have so much HP oh you hit me for 99% of my HP in a 0 rcv dungeon okay.

From there though everyone has much less HP and can be one hit with a good combo since there's no RCV. There's a shitton of leader binding but Isis doesn't care about that at all :V
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Post by: commandercool on November 28, 2014, 11:28:42 PM
Oh man, this next two days is one of those times in PAD where I have a ton of things I want to do but I can't fit them all in. Tomorrow is weekend dungeon with Sun Quan skillups coming right after (and he just got buffed such that he needs one more even than I was planning for), Hera-Is with the green orb I need for ultimate white Valkyrie (probably should be relatively low-priority, since I want her a lot less than blue Valkyrie) AND Ruins Of The Star-Vault. I guess the game could make this easy for me by giving me the green orb relatively quickly so that I can fit in other projects, but the following day is similar. Huh.

Guess I'm glad I've got a few stones. I was going to use them on the godfest, but I don't really want that much of it so maybe I'll just stone for stamina and do more things.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 28, 2014, 11:47:08 PM
then rip

Yeah, that's basically the conclusion we came to. I think a Satan team might work, though, especially with his uvo boosting HP, and there are a few devils (notably Gryps and Beelzebub) that have double prongs.

Though I wonder if running rows would be smarter, since...well, Satan. :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 28, 2014, 11:57:57 PM
I think, really divided on this one but since the next rotation and the one after that are No Dupe Alt Dungeons, ONE Izanami might be okay. You just need to have at least 7708 HP and decent enough RCV, but that still raises the question of what team it'd even work with. I just know people are going to probably be running some slapped together shit for them so people are probably scrambling for options.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 28, 2014, 11:59:59 PM
I think, really divided on this one but since the next rotation and the one after that are No Dupe Alt Dungeons, ONE Izanami might be okay. You just need to have at least 7708 HP and decent enough RCV, but that still raises the question of what team it'd even work with. I just know people are going to probably be running some slapped together shit for them so people are probably scrambling for options.

How about Green SoniaxGreen Guan Yu?
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Post by: Jq1790 on November 29, 2014, 12:12:25 AM
So.  I finally got home, ran Challenge Dungon Lv. 5 and got my Blanc.  Only encountered ->one Bubpy<- in the whole stage and beat it with little hassle first go.

Wait, put down those pitchforks everybody!  Hold on!

/me runs for dear life
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 29, 2014, 12:21:05 AM
So.  I finally got home, ran Challenge Dungon Lv. 5 and got my Blanc.  Only encountered ->one Bubpy<- in the whole stage and beat it with little hassle first go.

Wait, put down those pitchforks everybody!  Hold on!

/me runs for dear life

Oh don't worry, I ran through pypocalypse with no problems too. Only 3 pys spawned, two of them in the same wave and all three were on a two-timer, so they were easy to deal with.

Like I mentioned previously, I only died once to Lilith because healer HP is shit and once to vamp duke because...

... Because I forgot LMeta's skill only activates when above 50% HP :colonveeplusalpha:

(though fortunately I realized that before it was too late)
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Post by: commandercool on November 29, 2014, 12:56:55 AM
0/5 on spirit orb drops from Thoth And Sopdet so far, but I've got three more runs in me today without stoning and probably six with, so I still got chances. And if I don't drop one I won't be that upset, since it's probably going to be quite a while before we got the Valkyrie ultimates anyway, so I'll have more chances. The more I play this dungeon the more I like it. The only major problem I have with it is the potential for the first floor Rainbow Keeper, which is basically just an insta-loss for the team I'm using and seems like a bit of a fuck you. Hasn't come up yet though, so it's not too likely.

Also, my good I&I friends are still weirdly absent today. I think I have five or six hypermaxed ones, and of those one hasn't been online in almost a day and the other was only on very early in the morning and I missed them. The remaining ones were all on once briefly. Busy day I guess? Some of them are probably at work and won't be up for video games by the time they get home, so fair enough I guess.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 29, 2014, 01:27:00 AM
0/5 on spirit orb drops from Thoth And Sopdet so far, but I've got three more runs in me today without stoning and probably six with, so I still got chances. And if I don't drop one I won't be that upset, since it's probably going to be quite a while before we got the Valkyrie ultimates anyway, so I'll have more chances. The more I play this dungeon the more I like it. The only major problem I have with it is the potential for the first floor Rainbow Keeper, which is basically just an insta-loss for the team I'm using and seems like a bit of a fuck you. Hasn't come up yet though, so it's not too likely.

Also, my good I&I friends are still weirdly absent today. I think I have five or six hypermaxed ones, and of those one hasn't been online in almost a day and the other was only on very early in the morning and I missed them. The remaining ones were all on once briefly. Busy day I guess? Some of them are probably at work and won't be up for video games by the time they get home, so fair enough I guess.

I wish I could help you out, but I don't have enough people to justify changing mine to healer. I'm still kinda loyal to the 1 or 2 Hermes I still have on my list though. If my I&I goes healer, I'm going to miss them. Then again they only have a little less than 30 +eggs between them. They got sidelined when Kirin showed up. At least I'm still trying to skill her though.
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Post by: Espadas on November 29, 2014, 02:46:41 AM
I know too many people who expect to always clear everything instantly because they'll only play extremely safe teams and then get mad when they can't.

Really? Well, that is definitely going overboard.

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Obviously playstyles differ and goals differ, but when you say "the only thing that matters the first time is a guaranteed win" I can't get on board.

Well, "only" was probably an exaggeration but, at least for me, until i drop the boss that is definitely the main thing.

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Sometimes absolutely dominating at hard dungeons is fun for me, but a vast majority of the time I would rather comes extremely close to losing but just barely win in the end than win in a huge landslide. Winning all of the time doesn't seem fun to me

Here i see it a bit different. I would love to win all the time (sadly i get smashed way too often  :V) IF the victories were because of my skill. Having everything handed to me without effort would be simply boring....


Oh, and i'm totally in the same boat with you about having too much to do! I need to farm mats because i'm totally out of Dub-Mythlit and Dragon Flowers, i need to farm jewels for future uevo, i need to farm gold for the coin dungeons, i need to farm Poring Island for skill-ups.... too bad i'm not willing to stone right before a godfest  :V
Decisions, decisions.....

EDIT: LOOL, "Poring Island"! Nostalgia too stronk..... obviously i meant Poring Tower :P
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Post by: Calamity on November 29, 2014, 03:12:19 AM
Please enjoy my crappy coloring (http://i.imgur.com/u0m9HPI.jpg) uuuuuuuu need more dubs uuuuuuu

I still don't have a combo/colorset based multiplier leader, let's see if the festo changes that so I can feel the orb troll burn powah. p.s. I'm bored so I'll draw for the fifth nonconsecutive post after this post their choice of pad waifu doing something lulzy.
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Post by: Suikama on November 29, 2014, 03:26:20 AM
Dammit I should have skilled up Doomsday while I had the chance. His active is so goddamn useful because every descend these days is filled with jammer and poison orbs. He's already saved my ass a ton of times and he isn't even maxed yet.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on November 29, 2014, 03:28:56 AM
Please enjoy my crappy coloring (http://i.imgur.com/u0m9HPI.jpg) uuuuuuuu need more dubs uuuuuuu

I still don't have a combo/colorset based multiplier leader, let's see if the festo changes that so I can feel the orb troll burn powah. p.s. I'm bored so I'll draw for the fifth nonconsecutive post after this post their choice of pad waifu doing something lulzy.

Is she going smoosh it? 
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Post by: Calamity on November 29, 2014, 03:33:20 AM
Is she going smoosh it?
WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on November 29, 2014, 04:12:07 AM
You inspired me to buy a thing.
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Subject: Re: Sketch

I'd like Valkyrie from Puzzle and Dragons

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=694

Eating a stick of dangos, but the dangos are the Drops monster

http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=185


P&D is one of those games where you fuse monsters, and the Drops are the skill-up monster for Valkyrie
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Post by: Zerviscos on November 29, 2014, 04:15:07 AM
Princess Punt Collab.
Lol, I played this once, but I stopped since I didn't like it.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 29, 2014, 04:24:54 AM
Oh yeah I got a Light snow globe dragon from challenge dungeons lets feed it to Athena

>GREAT

...well then I got a maxed Athena now :V
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Post by: Suikama on November 29, 2014, 04:47:06 AM
FUCK

I WAS DOING SO WELL IN THOTH & SOPDET MYTHICAL

AND THEN OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COULD OF HAPPENED, GUESS WHAT I DIE TO

ISIS' 5000 DAMAGE PREEMPTIVE

I DONT KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS

I DONT KNOW HOW TO FEEL ANYMORE

isis pls ;-;


okay i guess technically i was killed by baby horus, so fuck you horus :V
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Post by: Chaore on November 29, 2014, 05:03:25 AM
okay i guess technically i was killed by baby horus, so fuck you horus :V

he doesn't like how you look at his mother ;v
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 29, 2014, 05:11:57 AM
Re: Princess Punt: I'll probably play it until I get her, and be done with it. She's cute and needs no skillups, so.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 29, 2014, 06:18:35 AM
FUCK

I WAS DOING SO WELL IN THOTH & SOPDET MYTHICAL

AND THEN OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COULD OF HAPPENED, GUESS WHAT I DIE TO

ISIS' 5000 DAMAGE PREEMPTIVE

I DONT KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS

I DONT KNOW HOW TO FEEL ANYMORE

isis pls ;-;


okay i guess technically i was killed by baby horus, so fuck you horus :V

I told you man. Isis is the true boss.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 29, 2014, 06:22:20 AM
I DIE TO ISIS' 5000 DAMAGE PREEMPTIVE

wow someone got de fuggin stroyed while I was asleep
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Post by: commandercool on November 29, 2014, 06:32:29 AM
I'm on my tenth and final Toth And Sopdet Mythical for the day (still no Karin, fingers crossed for this run) and the fucking griffin won't leave Gabriel alone. He just keeps binding him over and over and over... Look, bird. Gabe's not into you that way. Stop it.
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Post by: Calamity on November 29, 2014, 06:42:38 AM
I tried to buy stones last festo since I had a few dollars lying around from buying other things.
Error message -> app crash -> no stones -> money is gone -> stones appear three days later after I send a report

Never again.

pssst En you get a waifu drawing(unless you don't want it in which case it goes to sixth post).
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Post by: commandercool on November 29, 2014, 06:46:06 AM
Well, I did Thoth And Sopdet ten times and didn't get an orb. I'm not doing any more, I have to get up relatively early tomorrow otherwise I could stone for four more. I did die on Ra two of those times, so there were two spawnable floors I never saw and I'm sure they both would have dropped orbs because of course.
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Post by: Chaore on November 29, 2014, 08:44:17 AM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tcAbsIUOYAo/VHmFqyEjGeI/AAAAAAAAASc/rjYEOhz6Z0Q/w385-h684-no/14%2B-%2B1)

NEW META

SHIVAxDAOTWINS, MOVE OVER CHOKEZUME THERES A NEW SHIVA WAIFU IN TOWN
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 29, 2014, 12:47:13 PM
Fed Bleu today and got a GREAT!

Isis went from level 70 to max immediately.
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Post by: Espadas on November 29, 2014, 12:50:01 PM
- log in, see 2 rolls on the PAL

*Dub-Mythlit and Tamadra*

TODAY IS A GOOD DAY <3

(now if only Poring Island would kindly stop dropping me Big Flamie/Woodsie since they are the only skill-ups i don't need....  :V)

EDIT: Again with the "Island"..... /facepalm
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Post by: trancehime on November 29, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
Dammit I should have skilled up Doomsday while I had the chance. His active is so goddamn useful because every descend these days is filled with jammer and poison orbs. He's already saved my ass a ton of times and he isn't even maxed yet.

too bad the guy he actually skills up is way better because he has 3x skill block awakenings :derp:

but yeah, gravity room is super useful utility
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 29, 2014, 03:16:48 PM
too bad the guy he actually skills up is way better because he has 3x skill block awakenings :derp:

This requires people to actually have Chester. The fact that Doomsday has a lot more HP than he does is good enough for me.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 29, 2014, 03:33:37 PM
Skilling things up is work anyway.
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Post by: Edible on November 29, 2014, 05:48:41 PM
Currently 0-15 on blue valk skillups.  :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: commandercool on November 29, 2014, 06:04:32 PM
So I guess I can do Hera-Is mythical with basically no problems, but I'm still not sure if trying to farm a green orb right now is worth it. Probably not, I think I want the gold more. Least I got the stone.

Currently 0-15 on blue valk skillups.  :colonveeplusalpha:

Aaaaaah the flashbacks. The pain. Hopefully you have my luck and get a bunch in a row at the end.
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Post by: Chaore on November 29, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
I really should be doing poring tower for drops but...

CHASERS. CHASERS FOR DAYS.

MEIMEI SUPREMECY
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 29, 2014, 06:33:09 PM
I really should be doing poring tower for drops but...

CHASERS. CHASERS FOR DAYS.

MEIMEI SUPREMECY

Pretty much this. I kinda want to ult Mastering and max-skill Lilith, but I have two max-skilled copies of every color heartbreaker.

EDIT: I meant to do this earlier, but I wanna play the game where you guys look at my box and tell me what I should try to make. Right now I'm trying to work on the Athena team, but what about after that?
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 29, 2014, 08:43:24 PM
First stone was spent when I panicked at having the same leader bound twice in a row, and didn't recover well enough from poison.
Second stone was spent as soon as Thoth hit 20% because said leader had been bound again, so I didn't have the HP to tank the hit.

At that point I wasn't going to let the 70 stamina go to waste, and thankfully didn't need to stone any more; after confirming with my brother that this was in fact below 15% on Thoth:

(http://i.imgur.com/vgImlhUl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/vgImlhU.jpg)

...I was able to take them out *and* save a gravity for Ra to make him bearable.

(http://i.imgur.com/8rRGWMPl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/8rRGWMP.jpg)

Now to figure out what to do with this bubpy.
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Post by: Dr Rawr on November 29, 2014, 09:40:56 PM
This game is 2 ez. Fed 10 dark high ninjas to Lucifer and got 0 skill ups
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Post by: Suikama on November 29, 2014, 09:41:46 PM
Pretty much this. I kinda want to ult Mastering and max-skill Lilith, but I have two max-skilled copies of every color heartbreaker.

EDIT: I meant to do this earlier, but I wanna play the game where you guys look at my box and tell me what I should try to make. Right now I'm trying to work on the Athena team, but what about after that?
Oh jesus look at all of this green.

Perseus, Meimei, Gonia, Amitaka, Chu is legit. Almost Pandora tier once maxed. You have so many goddamn skill boosts that all you have to do is push buttons for orbs and everything dies. Once Perseus ult comes out here then you'll really be talking.

Eventually replace Ami/Chu to go full god tier. Green Ripper actually can work because it changes orbs from dark to green, giving you either a full green board with Gonia, or a dual color board with Meimei. Too bad his awakenings kinda suck. Also with the full board combo you can have a +orb sub like Melody or Canopus for the max burst. The best combination is situational so it's good to focus on all of them to keep your options open (longer dungeons you want more orb changers, shorter dungeons with a stronger final boss you want +orbs).

Don't bother with stuff like Mari and Fafnir. The extra row awakening is not worth the shitty actives. You want as many orb changers as possible for heroes. If you can get Green Valk then she's way better than Chu.

You're probably better off building this than Athena. With Athena you want stuff like Leilan and Izanagi who you don't have. Meanwhile you have everything you need for a solid Perseus team.

Also other than that, Kushi is a great sub for any team. Comes in handy for dealing with ridiculous preemptives.

edit: what the fuck you have guan yu okay use him too


okay fuck chu time to go full skill boost

Perseus, Meimei, Gonia, Guan Yu, Ami

8 skill boosts means max skilled Guan and Perseus is up on turn 1. Max Meimei is up after 1 turn. Ronia after 7 turns.

6 green rows, which doesn't sound like that much but remember Heroes are x4 while Ronia is just x2.5 and mono teams are usually x3 so other teams need more rows just to keep up.

4 skill lock resist. Replace Ami for someone with another resist for the guaranteed if you need it.

Actually Ami could probably be replaced with a lot of stuff. Athena, Canopus, Melody, Melon Dragon, Green Ripper, whatever, you got options. I think I kinda like Green Ripper for the Full green board option.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 29, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
You know, all this talk of Athena teams makes me think that I actually have a somewhat decent athena team prototype :wat:

Athena/Verche/Izanagi/Twinlit Meimei/Uvo'd GOdin

How does that sound? Everyone besides GOdin has a two-prong for damages, I have an enhance, an orb changer and a board changer and GOdin takes care of Athena's RCV problem.

Of course, this team won't become a thing until much later since I'm still working on my healer team right now and after that comes the GZL team but it's a thought :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 29, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
You know, all this talk of Athena teams makes me think that I actually have a somewhat decent athena team prototype :wat:

Athena/Verche/Izanagi/Twinlit Meimei/Uvo'd GOdin

How does that sound? Everyone besides GOdin has a two-prong for damages, I have an enhance, an orb changer and a board changer and GOdin takes care of Athena's RCV problem.

Of course, this team won't become a thing until much later since I'm still working on my healer team right now and after that comes the GZL team but it's a thought :V

I'd almost say kick Izanagi out and use GZL, but :tastes:

Maxskill Light Valk and replace Grodin and you have my Alt. Dungeon farming team.
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Post by: Suikama on November 29, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
You know, all this talk of Athena teams makes me think that I actually have a somewhat decent athena team prototype :wat:

Athena/Verche/Izanagi/Twinlit Meimei/Uvo'd GOdin

How does that sound? Everyone besides GOdin has a two-prong for damages, I have an enhance, an orb changer and a board changer and GOdin takes care of Athena's RCV problem.

Of course, this team won't become a thing until much later since I'm still working on my healer team right now and after that comes the GZL team but it's a thought :V
Looks good to me. Godin is pretty much always welcome on teams that can use him because he gives so much survival power. Great stats + 2000 heal per turn is just too good.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 30, 2014, 12:51:29 AM
It'll do just fine. Mine is Athena/Verche/Apollo/Thor/GOdin. I wish I had Izanagi for the better boost, but Apollo does his job pretty well, as does Thor, with extended damage potential.
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Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 01:22:59 AM
10 runs of starry vault: 17 +eggs

yeah this is pretty much the best dungeon BV
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on November 30, 2014, 01:30:55 AM
+10 in 7 runs

Also 18 baby tamas in 7 runs from Tama Village

13/14 of those resulted in awakenings
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 30, 2014, 02:02:13 AM
Hmm...the team sounds great Suikama, only issue is skill-ups. I don't think we'll have GGY skill-ups for a while, and Perseus isn't dark, so skill-ups suck. Sonia and Genbu are skill lvl 1 as well. Only Cu and Amitaka are max-skill, so they'll probably stay on the team for a while. Or I can just laugh at everything by cramming more skill boosts?
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Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 02:26:05 AM
At least GGY, Perseus, and Meimei base cooldowns aren't that long.  With 8 skill boosts it's still only 4, 5, and 6 turns for them to be up. Chu/Ami is still probably good though because you do want at least one orb changer that has only 5 turns so that you can use it multiple times in emergencies. Even with a loss of 2 skill boosts, Chu will be up on turn 1 and the others are up after 2, 7, and 8.

Sonias definitely want skill ups though.
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Post by: hyorinryu on November 30, 2014, 02:38:33 AM
At least GGY, Perseus, and Meimei base cooldowns aren't that long.  With 8 skill boosts it's still only 4, 5, and 6 turns for them to be up. Chu/Ami is still probably good though because you do want at least one orb changer that has only 5 turns so that you can use it multiple times in emergencies. Even with a loss of 2 skill boosts, Chu will be up on turn 1 and the others are up after 2, 7, and 8.

Sonias definitely want skill ups though.

Not looking forward to that. Blue fruits like me way too much. I needed a better trifuits build too. The one in my padherder was too much work. I had to spend so much time at the tama to make sure Goemon's skill came up.
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Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 04:05:21 AM
oh boy pc godfest time
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 30, 2014, 04:12:28 AM
Kushinada, Naga, Izanagi. Pretty pleased, though I reeeeeeally want a Minerva.

Will have one more pull after tomorrow's daily stone.
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Post by: Calamity on November 30, 2014, 04:13:55 AM
Lailia, Dragon Rider and Haku, yaaaaaaaay. Haku was all I wanted.
nobody wants a waifu drawing okayyyyyyyy I only feel tiny bit insulted huhuhu
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 04:18:55 AM
wait i thought knights were supposed to be in?
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Post by: Chaore on November 30, 2014, 04:24:01 AM
divinegon, merlin, anima, blueberry and something that also needs to fuck off i can't be arsed to remember

fuck this game, you know?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 04:28:46 AM
Meanwhile my friend:
Umiyama
Izanagi


he does this every fucking godfest
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Jq1790 on November 30, 2014, 04:29:01 AM
Apparently I have Chiyome now.

At first I thought I got a useless gold then I find out she's actually really good.

Still need a freaking real fire leader though. Strawberry Dragon can only take me so far.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 04:35:09 AM
Christhammer. Guys I did it. I'm sorry. I broke PAD.

Three pulls.

Chester.

Genbu.

Light Kali.

So, howsabout that Athena team I was making? Guess it's time to put all of my many other plans on hold and start panic-farming Genbu's skillup dungeon. Athena/Kali/Genbu/GZL/Valkrie/Athena?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Jq1790 on November 30, 2014, 04:42:42 AM
Geez, that's some literal God-tier pulling there, Commander.

I mean geeeez.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Chaore on November 30, 2014, 04:43:20 AM
completely ditch athena, just embrace the power of lkali at this point

also fuck you

that's like a perfect 3/3 with some of the best cards in the game
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 04:43:59 AM
Christhammer. Guys I did it. I'm sorry. I broke PAD.

Three pulls.

Chester.

Genbu.

Light Kali.

So, howsabout that Athena team I was making? Guess it's time to put all of my many other plans on hold and start panic-farming Genbu's skillup dungeon. Athena/Kali/Genbu/GZL/Valkrie/Athena?
its over

pad is over
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 04:47:15 AM
Oh fuck 3rd Green Odin.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 04:52:55 AM
So, howsabout that Athena team I was making? Guess it's time to put all of my many other plans on hold and start panic-farming Genbu's skillup dungeon. Athena/Kali/Genbu/GZL/Valkrie/Athena?

Valk can be swapped out for Verche for proper typing. I feel it might also be redundant to have LKali and Meimei in the same team, as 5cd changers are more powerful.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 30, 2014, 04:53:30 AM
I did 2 rolls.

Izanagi

Ice Golem


Could have done better. Could have done worse. Athena is more than likely jumping for joy though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 04:58:46 AM
okay i was wrong

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3qflXZIYAEVFXc.jpg)

now pad is over

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 04:59:25 AM
completely ditch athena, just embrace the power of lkali at this point

I honestly might. I don't have enough combo skills to do it right now, but I can learn. What out of my guys should go on that team? I don't know if I want to commit to leveling that first since I kind of want to use Genbu, but I'll get there/

also fuck you

that's like a perfect 3/3 with some of the best cards in the game

I know, right? I honestly kind of feel bad about my dumb luck. I wasn't even going to pull but I saw my roommate do pretty well off of two pulls, so I went for it. After that display of utter nonsense I almost bought more stones to keep going but I seriously can't handle more options. IT IS TOO MUCH POWER FOR ME. There wasn't much that I wanted in this event, but I, uh, got it anyway. :derp: Literally the ONLY thing I actively want to get my hands on right now is a Yomi, but that is too greedy.

Valk can be swapped out for Verche for proper typing.

I was thinking post-ultimateultimate Valkyrie for the more prongs, but Verche works until then. And my Valkyrie is skillmax while my Verche is not.

I feel it might also be redundant to have LKali and Meimei in the same team, as 5cd changers are more powerful.

I know, but I don't want to have to choose. Is GZL even still worth running at that point? His active does hit himself and both Athenas, and the skillboosts are badass, but I don't know. I DON'T KNOOOOOW. What would you use?
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Post by: trancehime on November 30, 2014, 05:09:42 AM
okay i was wrong

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3qflXZIYAEVFXc.jpg)

now pad is over

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

what the fuck is wrong with you  :qq:


Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Chaore on November 30, 2014, 05:11:40 AM
okay i was wrong

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3qflXZIYAEVFXc.jpg)

now pad is over

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

...are you fucking kidding me

even the one godfest only i don't really like there is good for you go away forever
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 05:12:32 AM
What would you use?

I use Athena/Verche/GZL/Leilan/Valk/Athena. 4 Skillboosts, 2 5cd orbchange, 1 big orbchange, and decent attack on wood if there's not enough light via GZL. I feel GZL is vastly superior to Izanagi with this setup since Leilan makes R/G/L, and he has two prongs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 30, 2014, 05:13:45 AM
8 pulls.. still no Sonia, nor D. Metatron, nor Bastet.

Well atleast it wasn't as worse as my previous Godfest mishap(the one that I actually got no Gods).
In order:
1. Toytops(seriously?!)
2. Genbu(possible new leader for me atleast)
3. Ifrit(ew...)
4. Minerva(decent enough)
5. Verche(come on staph...)
6. Pandora(sweeeet)
7. Angel(srz just staph.)
8. Zhuge Liang(decent new 4x leader)

So basically it was a 50/50 pull. 4 out of 8 pulls were Gods from the list. I thought it'll be 5 when I saw Ifrit's egg was Gold...got trolled so hard. I might go collect some more stones before this Godfest ends. Really want a Ronia, or D.Metatron, or  Bastet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 05:14:21 AM
what the fuck is wrong with you  :qq:



...are you fucking kidding me

even the one godfest only i don't really like there is good for you go away forever
guys look at the name those werent my pulls lol

8 pulls.. still no Sonia, nor D. Metatron, nor Bastet.

Well atleast it wasn't as worse as my previous Godfest mishap(the one that I actually got no Gods).
In order:
1. Toytops(seriously?!)
2. Genbu(possible new leader for me atleast)
3. Ifrit(ew...)
4. Minerva(decent enough)
5. Verche(come on staph...)
6. Pandora(sweeeet)
7. Angel(srz just staph.)
8. Zhuge Liang(decent new 4x leader)

So basically it was a 50/50 pull. 4 out of 8 pulls were Gods from the list. I thought it'll be 5 when I saw Ifrit's egg was Gold...got trolled so hard. I might go collect some more stones before this Godfest ends. Really want a Ronia, or D.Metatron, or  Bastet.
both pandora and minerva are top tier btw

genbu too really because of her sub potential
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Chaore on November 30, 2014, 05:20:26 AM
guys look at the name those werent my pulls lol

oh

still fuck you
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 30, 2014, 05:20:49 AM
guys look at the name those werent my pulls lol

you could have changed your name you fuckin' rogue :qq:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 05:22:37 AM
oh i didnt even realize the name was kinda similar to mine lol

still WTF KIRIN PANDORA KALI KALI DKALI DMETA LIKE REALLY

REALLY
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 30, 2014, 05:24:35 AM
oh i didnt even realize the name was kinda similar to mine lol

still WTF KIRIN PANDORA KALI KALI DKALI DMETA LIKE REALLY

REALLY

Meh. It happens. I almost expected to get something like that rolling lol.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on November 30, 2014, 05:26:18 AM
oh i didnt even realize the name was kinda similar to mine lol

still WTF KIRIN PANDORA KALI KALI DKALI DMETA LIKE REALLY

REALLY

This pic is magical.
So focused on the DKali->DMeta that I didn't see it wasn't you.
Then relooked at the pic to see it's not you, and saw this post.
Then relooked again to realize the Kirins, Pandoras, LKalis x2.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Janitor Morgan on November 30, 2014, 05:34:20 AM
nth dupe Earth Guardian
dupe GOdin
Meimei
nth dupe Toytops
Berserker Z

Depending on whether I can do Takeminakata Mythical tomorrow (and if so, whether I get the light jewel), there may or may not be a sixth pull, but I'm pretty happy with Meimei, at least.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 30, 2014, 05:37:38 AM
Three pulls.

Ifrit.

Second Ammy.

(http://i.imgur.com/g8bIofg.png)
Nope, not complaining. (http://i.imgur.com/g8bIofg.png)

So that's my second Odin, now I just need BOdin.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Yukarin on November 30, 2014, 05:54:17 AM
commander you better level that Lkali

i need more Lkali users srsly
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 06:00:52 AM
commander you better level that Lkali

i need more Lkali users srsly

What team do you use with yours? Rainbow leaders are so far outside of my usual purview that I don't even know where I would start building around her. Sun Quan seems like he belongs on the team, but aside from that I'm stumped.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Yukarin on November 30, 2014, 06:06:40 AM
What team do you use with yours? Rainbow leaders are so far outside of my usual purview that I don't even know where I would start building around her. Sun Quan seems like he belongs on the team, but aside from that I'm stumped.
|

I use LKali / Uevo LMeta / Kirin / Lewdlith / Valk, all max awakened

if i had Kotaro I would gladly remove valk there, but for now, she's going to be in that team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 06:15:03 AM
the best thing about isisrainbow teams is they are higly adaptable. Green dungeon? bring red subs. Poison? use chester or doomsday. s rank? use 1 stars. Really you can use whatever you want or have. the only staple imo is ecchi shes just too good for everything
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 30, 2014, 06:16:05 AM
the best thing about isisrainbow teams is they are higly adaptable. Green dungeon? bring red subs. Poison? use chester or doomsday. s rank? use 1 stars. Really you can use whatever you want or have. the only staple imo is ecchi shes just too good for everything
That's why I want Bastet...or Anubis at the very least.

As much as I can use Kali or Kirin. I basically don't like getting orb-trolled because they're specific orb-based. Which is less of a problem for Combo-based LS like Anubis or Bastet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 06:20:42 AM
you cant get trolled as kali. she has an anti troll active. thats why shes op :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 30, 2014, 06:23:21 AM
you cant get trolled as kali. she has an anti troll active. thats why shes op :V
Well I guess thanks to Pys, 7 min turn on both Kalis' active is pretty damn OP. :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Yukarin on November 30, 2014, 06:24:10 AM
you guys have no idea how many times Kali has saved me

her active is GODLIKE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 06:26:37 AM
LKali gets Kirin's ability to go monolight and also UY's inbuilt anti orb troll mechanism and two prong shenanigans. And she doesn't even have a uvo yet.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 06:29:00 AM
|

I use LKali / Uevo LMeta / Kirin / Lewdlith / Valk, all max awakened

if i had Kotaro I would gladly remove valk there, but for now, she's going to be in that team.

What do you think of this?

Kali/Sun Quan/Durga or Lilith/Valkyrie/Echidna/Kali

I can actually get that online pretty quick since I already have two of the subs maxed and the other two partially leveled. HP is pretty low though, which seems bad for a rainbow team since it makes setting up my board harder. But hopefully it doesn't matter that much because Kali active.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Yukarin on November 30, 2014, 06:31:35 AM
I think that's a good team, all in all.

yea that's pretty good. Go do that and try doing a trial run of endless dungeon see how that goes
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 30, 2014, 06:37:25 AM
Well I guess thanks to Pys, 7 min turn on both Kalis' active is pretty damn OP. :derp:

Do not waste your Pys on Kali. Soon enough, Angelits will skill her up.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 06:41:01 AM
fuck it i guess ill pull just a bit even if theres no knights

>gold egg
>meimei

oooh okay i am down with this

>gigas

aaand im done

HEY CHAORE IM PART OF THE COOL KIDS CLUB NOW RIGHT
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 06:43:20 AM
There's an hour left on 2x chasers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 06:50:10 AM
i have no stam rip
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 30, 2014, 07:15:23 AM
Before the LMeta buff: Hera-Is Descended kills me on floor 1.

After the LMeta buff: No-stone it. Twice.

I got the drop too, which means I'm not too far off of my Horus team.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 30, 2014, 07:17:02 AM
Hera has a 100% drop rate. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 30, 2014, 07:20:28 AM
Before the LMeta buff: Hera-Is Descended kills me on floor 1.

After the LMeta buff: No-stone it. Twice.

I got the drop too, which means I'm not too far off of my Horus team.

it must feel nice not having the HP of a wet paper towel, right?

Hera has a 100% drop rate. :V

Hera-Is Legend though.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 30, 2014, 07:21:54 AM
LZLxLMeta still got me oneshot by God Hell Breath.

I accidentally nicked that one midboss past 75% HP. :c

SupergirlxSuperman ended up being super reliable for me, I suppose.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 30, 2014, 07:28:19 AM
LZLxLMeta still got me oneshot by God Hell Breath.

I accidentally nicked that one midboss past 75% HP. :c

SupergirlxSuperman ended up being super reliable for me, I suppose.

you aren't getting over 22K HP without beefy subs or if you just use I&IxLMeta instead.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 30, 2014, 07:30:09 AM
LZLxLMeta still got me oneshot by God Hell Breath.

I accidentally nicked that one midboss past 75% HP. :c

SupergirlxSuperman ended up being super reliable for me, I suppose.

I personally just didn't give helheim the chance to dunk me with God Hell Breath, I did all of (or at least most of) my stalling on floor one and just nuked everything to hell as best as I could, including, of course, helheim.

I also dropped two aldebarans in these runs, amusingly enough.

And yeah, I did Legend Hera-Is, I'm not attempting mythical on her ever :V

(there's no point to anyway since hera descended is also her skillup, is permanent and is also significantly easier)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 07:40:07 AM
You'll come crawling back for that stone. They always do.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 07:45:01 AM
I personally just didn't give helheim the chance to dunk me with God Hell Breath, I did all of (or at least most of) my stalling on floor one and just nuked everything to hell as best as I could, including, of course, helheim.

Yeah, on Legend+Mythical I just try to slap the shit out of Helheim before he can do anything, god breaths are absolutely nasty.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Yukarin on November 30, 2014, 07:49:25 AM
you can actually 0 stone mythical with Lmeta team

well with a high plussed team but still

that's huge
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 30, 2014, 07:58:21 AM
I 0-stone mythical with LZL/I&I/Ruka/Gabe/Light Valk/Lmeta.
Sometimes.

Even when I'm only hitting Hera-Is with half of my team on color it still works I guess. Light Metatron can't be that different if it's primarily light.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 30, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
I wake up and see 2 pages worth of comments... let the quote war begin:
Quote
god breaths are absolutely nasty.
This comment in a PAD thread is just plain win  :D
Quote
*rolls of commandercool*
How many virgins did you sacrifice to the Old Ones to receive such a blessing, you lucky bas....?  :o
Quote
*rolls of non-Suikama  :V*
Forget the Old Ones..... Why the fudge is this guy even playing Pad? GO BUY SOME LOTTERY TICKETS AND YOU ARE SET FOR LIFE! :colonveeplusalpha:


I'm just about to go roll myself but first i've got something that has to be said: F**K YOU STARRY VIEW LANE!  ONE +egg in 4 runs! >_>

Ok time to roll... i'll edit this one in a few minutes

EDIT: I'll leave it to your judgment.....

- Anubis (really? i had 6/30 of the gods in this godfest and you drop me a DUPE, and not only that, THE one that i'll likely never use? -_-)
- Mystic Stone Knight (yay one more useless dupe....)
- Fairlion (make it 3/3.... >_>)
- Phantom Thunder Dragon, Sagirinokami (didn't even know this guy existed.... is it any good?)
- Berserker Z (ok, this one i knew existed.... still, i guess he would do well with Goemon or Fire Devils? maybe Ronia too?)
- Incarnation of Kirin, Sakuya (wish she was Meimei, but this is good too)
- Blazing Maiden, Princess Valkyrie (best drop of the day for me)

Setting aside Kirin and DValk.... i'm raging mad!  :X There are SO MANY gods in this event that i want and i didn't drop even one.... then add salt with the 3 dupes. >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 30, 2014, 09:17:20 AM
So I got a Persephone.

Does that mean I can legitimately TPA with either Byakko or Beelzebub now?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 30, 2014, 09:34:07 AM
Setting aside Kirin and DValk.... i'm raging mad!  :X There are SO MANY gods in this event that i want and i didn't drop even one.... then add salt with the 3 dupes. >_>

oh quiet, i used all my non-iap stones on a Japan PCGF and only got a dupe silver and a fuckin' star egg.

At least you got golds lol
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: The Greatest Dog on November 30, 2014, 09:53:01 AM
I take back everything I said about PAD being bullshit. (http://imgur.com/DKQLowf)

My HP was literally 13337 on the turn I killed it, too.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 10:07:35 AM
Well. My last three pulls were dark mystic, verche and another meimei.
I, uh, need to recalculate the amount of chasers I need.

e: So in all, UY, GOdin, Izanagi, Verche, Meimei
I have been firmly cast onto the Athena road.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 30, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
- Anubis (really? i had 6/30 of the gods in this godfest and you drop me a DUPE, and not only that, THE one that i'll likely never use? -_-)
- Mystic Stone Knight (yay one more useless dupe....)
- Fairlion (make it 3/3.... >_>)
- Phantom Thunder Dragon, Sagirinokami (didn't even know this guy existed.... is it any good?)
- Berserker Z (ok, this one i knew existed.... still, i guess he would do well with Goemon or Fire Devils? maybe Ronia too?)
- Incarnation of Kirin, Sakuya (wish she was Meimei, but this is good too)
- Blazing Maiden, Princess Valkyrie (best drop of the day for me)

Setting aside Kirin and DValk.... i'm raging mad!  :X There are SO MANY gods in this event that i want and i didn't drop even one.... then add salt with the 3 dupes. >_>
Dude, do you know how jelly I am at you for most Godfest pulls you did? If you were running a sweep team, and combo-based team like me, I would really comment on how you are mostly always lucky with these Godfests. Seriously, you have Ronias, Anubises(COME ON. I NEED THOSE), Kirin(maybe Savant tier, but I can still use it), and so much more. 

If I could milk out atleast one more pull, I would really like atleast a single of any of my target Gods.

TBH. I don't have a single Special God at all(Zhuge Liang is listed one...though). RNG Gods are not with me...they never are.

After this Godfest, I still have the to wait for another Egypt 1.0 Godfest, which isn't due for another year or so...before I can actually try again for my main target God(s). Which are the combo-based Bastet, and Anubis, or easy orb-based Isis(Sadly, Isis isn't on this Godfest).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 11:53:47 AM
Why settle with Isis when you can have her cute sister Neph!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 30, 2014, 11:58:08 AM

TBH. I don't have a single Special God at all(Zhuge Liang is listed one...though). RNG Gods are not with me...they never are.

thats because zhuge liang is a special god......................
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 30, 2014, 12:00:34 PM
Why settle with Isis when you can have her cute sister Neph!
Cause ult Isis has a subtype.

Neph still has no ult evo.
thats because zhuge liang is a special god......................
I know. The point is, until today, I was Special God-less.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Yukarin on November 30, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
Neph's really really strong though, even without the subtype

which is the reason why i want her so bad
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 30, 2014, 12:33:15 PM
Dude, do you know how jelly I am at you for most Godfest pulls you did? If you were running a sweep team, and combo-based team like me, I would really comment on how you are mostly always lucky with these Godfests. Seriously, you have Ronias, Anubises(COME ON. I NEED THOSE), Kirin(maybe Savant tier, but I can still use it), and so much more.

I would gladly trade you my new Anubis for ANY god not named GGY.... Anubis's LS is way out of my league so at most i would use him as sub, and for that 1 is more than enough....

My main problem is not that i roll particularly awful (although this time i'm really not happy, apart for Kirin/Valk) is that every single godfest i don't roll what i need for the teams i'm building. I always get some strong monster that is a core member of other teams i don't have....
As a result i have the BEGINNING of many strong teams, but i lack the other members needed to actually use those teams in descent.

I'm levelling up farmable substitutes, but for some of them (like GZL or Pandora) i really need at least one other rem partner to make them viable.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on November 30, 2014, 12:40:24 PM
Cause ult Isis has a subtype.

Nephthys is Dark color, has a great active that now means something since orb enhance awakening buff, and has an Isis-tier consistent LS - not to mention she also buffs HP and RCV too to Dark elements. Precisely that Nephthys has no ult yet, whenever she gets one, it will probably be nuts.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: triangles on November 30, 2014, 01:02:23 PM
En did you get green or light cause it's the latter I'm working on mine.

Got Nothing too great list to come.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Edible on November 30, 2014, 01:03:46 PM
Only rolled once, got FA Lucifer.

GAME I AM TRYING TO USE RONIA - LESS -, NOT MORE
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 01:08:18 PM
I'm levelling up farmable substitutes, but for some of them (like GZL or Pandora) i really need at least one other rem partner to make them viable.
As much as I love Pandora, her ideal team is a pipe dream and takes twice as many stones to get running than to roll.
You can instead beat most of the game with Karin/Andromeda and maybe start an alt account if you want to try out different things.  And Satan as unconditional for things like Trifruit.

Only rolled once, got FA Lucifer.

GAME I AM TRYING TO USE RONIA - LESS -, NOT MORE
You can show your spite for RSonia and use her as a sub for F/R Lucifer.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Zerviscos on November 30, 2014, 01:09:00 PM
En did you get green or light cause it's the latter I'm working on mine.

Got Nothing too great list to come when I am not in line at the airport mad at people
Green. So yea, better leader for me I guess.

Btw, why didn't I get any Magic Stone today?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 30, 2014, 01:09:43 PM
Only rolled once, got FA Lucifer.

GAME I AM TRYING TO USE RONIA - LESS -, NOT MORE

I'll quote En here: "Dude, do you know how jelly I am at you?" :qq:

FA Luci is probably the one i wanted the MOST from this godfest, exactly because i'm building Ronia team....  :fail:

EDIT
Quote
You can instead beat most of the game with Karin/Andromeda

Yeah, i already planned to powerlevel Andromeda. I'm just not sure if i should finish leveling Siegfried/Hera-Is before doing so.....
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 01:10:26 PM
Tried Take Mythical on a whim.

(http://i.imgur.com/m9AOjoc.png)

The sheer amount of hearts falling is ridiculous and actually let me stall for Zeus on Take, but unfortunately I fucked up the attack order and had to 1stone. Worth it for the light jewel though.

I AM READY FOR GOD VALK

Extra Reminder: Anyone who is starting an Athena team, Blade of Justice will be on Rotation 3 for 500k coins/hr, and now has a new Master Difficulty added.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Bio on November 30, 2014, 01:24:16 PM
why didn't I get any Magic Stone today?
This is pretty strange, yes.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 30, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
I didn't get one either. How odd...
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 02:29:22 PM
No stone here either. It seems to be a server-wide problem.

compensation stones for stones
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 02:57:50 PM
Extra Reminder: Anyone who is starting an Athena team, Blade of Justice will be on Rotation 3 for 500k coins/hr, and now has a new Master Difficulty added.

Is rotation 3 the same one with the Dragon Knights? It is, right? I can't handle that, I got Sun Quan I gotta take care of. And Meimei before that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Dr Rawr on November 30, 2014, 03:01:13 PM
I got 4 yomis out of 6 pulls. I fed them all to my evo yomi and got 4 skill ups.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 03:06:43 PM
Is rotation 3 the same one with the Dragon Knights? It is, right? I can't handle that, I got Sun Quan I gotta take care of. And Meimei before that.

Apparently we're getting Mystic Dragons again so ?????
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Jq1790 on November 30, 2014, 03:57:38 PM
Tried Take Mythical on a whim.

(http://i.imgur.com/m9AOjoc.png)

The sheer amount of hearts falling is ridiculous and actually let me stall for Zeus on Take, but unfortunately I fucked up the attack order and had to 1stone. Worth it for the light jewel though.

I AM READY FOR GOD VALK

Extra Reminder: Anyone who is starting an Athena team, Blade of Justice will be on Rotation 3 for 500k coins/hr, and now has a new Master Difficulty added.
Ooh, I have a Verche who will need to pull double duty as it is.  Cheap dungeon, too.  Good to know!
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on November 30, 2014, 04:03:08 PM
If you don't have a Valk/Apollo/Meimei/Leilan, you may as well obtain and skill up another Verche for an Athena team, to be honest. Orb changers can make or break your run.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on November 30, 2014, 04:11:06 PM
Is rotation 3 the same one with the Dragon Knights? It is, right? I can't handle that, I got Sun Quan I gotta take care of. And Meimei before that.

According to PDX, rotation 3 is actually Mystic Dragons, not Dragon Knights.

Which means skilling up RGB Archangels, Apollo and Persephone.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
Green. So yea, better leader for me I guess.

Btw, why didn't I get any Magic Stone today?
gungho wants you to buy more stones for the godfest instead of using free ones /conspiracy :V


huh looking at valk again, it's actually BETTER that she got two +orb awakenings rather than a row because that makes her perfect for Athena. Of course double two prong would be even better, but it's still pretty good since it synergizes with Athena's active.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 30, 2014, 05:27:13 PM
gungho wants you to buy more stones for the godfest instead of using free ones /conspiracy :V


huh looking at valk again, it's actually BETTER that she got two +orb awakenings rather than a row because that makes her perfect for Athena. Of course double two prong would be even better, but it's still pretty good since it synergizes with Athena's active.

Kirin likes her better that way too. The only sad person here is Wukong, and Divinegon, but no one cares about them.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 05:31:19 PM
With that in mind I could do Athena, Valk, Verche, Meimei for an actually legit non-Isis team for once...

actually no I cant completely do that so the final sub will be Isis BV

I mean she's a light god with bind heal powers, gives the team actually okay RCV, and she even has a light +orb which gives me 100% +drops ITS PERFECT BV BV BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Edible on November 30, 2014, 05:44:32 PM
Being max level with full skillups and plus eggs helps too, I suspect
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on November 30, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
With that in mind I could do Athena, Valk, Verche, Meimei for an actually legit non-Isis team for once...

actually no I cant completely do that so the final sub will be Isis BV

I mean she's a light god with bind heal powers, gives the team actually okay RCV, and she even has a light +orb which gives me 100% +drops ITS PERFECT BV BV BV

You are reaching levels of obsessions that frankly are.... BLOODY HILARIOUS!  :D

Honestly Suikama, between your Isis-ness and your rants when offering team building for motk players i reached the point that i start smiling as soon as i see a post from you in this thread  :V


P.S. Holy s.... some fellow in puzzleanddragonsforum rolled 17 times and got TWO gold eggs.... suddenly i don't feel so bad about my rolls anymore! (although those 2 gold were FA Luci and Persephone :-/ )
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 05:53:48 PM
Apparently we're getting Mystic Dragons again so ?????

Oh, okay.

That sucks because I really need Sun Quan to be skillmax to be really confident in Mythical descends with my Gabriel team.

But it's good because at least necessary dungeons won't overlap.

And it sucks because I'll never be able to stop stockpiling gold and do a bunch of Tamadra village runs now.

But it's good because I don't have the extra stones to really farm it right now anyway.

But it's bad because the topping contains potassium benzoate. #simpsonsreference
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Being max level with full skillups and plus eggs helps too, I suspect
well yeah especially since having high HP makes Athena's leader skill scale even harder

Even now with my level 5 meimei and unmaxed valk and verche I have 22k HP :V

With everyone max level I'll have almost 30k BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 06:20:14 PM
Watch there be a new descend with the following restriction

"no egyptians"

But it's bad

But it's good because in the end blue valk is still getting an ultimate
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 06:42:14 PM
wait the next alt coin dungeons have a higher exp ratio than even mechdragons what the fuck

welp i know what i'm farming next we-

fuck i need green chasers now too aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 06:43:21 PM
But it's good because in the end blue valk is still getting an ultimate

Yup, that's the real good news. And suddenly ultimate white Valkyrie is way more important to me than I thought it would be.

Although I still need to cram in farming for orbs somewhere. Today is another precarious balancing act of things I should do, with coin dungeon at a lower priority but Green Chaser dungeon at a much higher priority than I thought yesterday. Since I got Meimei last night I've already picked up four Green Chasers to go with the one I already had, so I think maybe I should take some time off from that and run Takeminakata as much as possible for the rest of the day. I need two light orbs, which might be tricky. I probably have a lot of time to pick them up, but I expect to be busy during that time.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 30, 2014, 06:50:37 PM
wait the next alt coin dungeons have a higher exp ratio than even mechdragons what the fuck

welp i know what i'm farming next we-

fuck i need green chasers now too aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Exactly how many people are in the Genbu club?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
so i'm watching some athena runs to see how hard she hits and uh... she's not really that strong? As in I was under the impression that with all that attack and two prongs and REM subs she'd be pretty crazy, but she doesn't really hit that much harder than my current non-iap Isis team. only she hits super hard while everyone else is just kinda ok so the overall damage is like 3 million for a burst. I guess TPA still can't really compare to insane row stacking and also being only x9 really holds it back. at least the 30k hp is nice

meanwhile ult dmeta can hit like 10 million attack per sub rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on November 30, 2014, 07:27:55 PM
so i'm watching some athena runs to see how hard she hits and uh... she's not really that strong? As in I was under the impression that with all that attack and two prongs and REM subs she'd be pretty crazy, but she doesn't really hit that much harder than my current non-iap Isis team. only she hits super hard while everyone else is just kinda ok so the overall damage is like 3 million for a burst. I guess TPA still can't really compare to insane row stacking and also being only x9 really holds it back. at least the 30k hp is nice

meanwhile ult dmeta can hit like 10 million attack per sub rofl

Dmeta doesn't need to compromise. She can make a team like the one you made for me, only difference is that sub will have two rows. It's so silly.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 07:44:41 PM
so i'm watching some athena runs to see how hard she hits and uh... she's not really that strong? As in I was under the impression that with all that attack and two prongs and REM subs she'd be pretty crazy, but she doesn't really hit that much harder than my current non-iap Isis team. only she hits super hard while everyone else is just kinda ok so the overall damage is like 3 million for a burst. I guess TPA still can't really compare to insane row stacking and also being only x9 really holds it back. at least the 30k hp is nice

meanwhile ult dmeta can hit like 10 million attack per sub rofl

Oh really? That's interesting. I assumed that it was just "infinity damage fuck it everything dies". That kind of makes me even happier with my current team, I guess. The benefit of doing Athena is the consistency of the damage output, but yeah... Interesting.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 07:50:07 PM
so i'm watching some athena runs to see how hard she hits and uh... she's not really that strong? As in I was under the impression that with all that attack and two prongs and REM subs she'd be pretty crazy, but she doesn't really hit that much harder than my current non-iap Isis team. only she hits super hard while everyone else is just kinda ok so the overall damage is like 3 million for a burst. I guess TPA still can't really compare to insane row stacking and also being only x9 really holds it back. at least the 30k hp is nice

meanwhile ult dmeta can hit like 10 million attack per sub rofl

I can hit 3~4 million with just only two Lv99 Athenas and a 2x Enhance (only counting the LIGHT damage from the Athenas, no element mod), and still keep super high HP. The best part is I can do another million or so if there's another turn after that and I still have a changer. No row stacking required, no wasting slots for king slimes that drop your survivability into the toilet, and all you have to is match 4 light.

That said past 4 million it's kind of unnecessary, so she only hits as hard as she needs to.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 07:56:22 PM
Oh right no one in the vids I watched used Izanami so that was all without any enhancers.

And yeah base stat tradeoff with attack has always been a thing since the 2/4/2 team days, which is why although Pandora is a lot more powerful than Ronia, Ronia is still really good because she has crazy stats with her rcv multiplier and Lu Bu's HP boost. For Athena though your RCV is kinda terrible without a lot of +eggs.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 08:00:58 PM
Quick test I did using my Athena and a +297 one.

(http://i.imgur.com/yNky8zq.png)

~1.5 million Light damage on my Athena
~1.82 million Light damage on FL Athena

16 Light Orbs (4 x 4line) and 8 combo. Could have made 4lines of wood for GZL but I just wanted the Light damage.

God Valk is going to be fucking great

EDIT: I only used Valk to generate that board. I still have Verche and Leilan for the next two turns (and another Aegis) should the theoretical enemy still live.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on November 30, 2014, 08:06:19 PM
damn 4 lines tho

all these other guys im watching suck and can barely make 2 rofl


more importantly though Isis is still stronger

(http://i.imgur.com/k0jTNHn.jpg)

BV BV BV BV BV
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 08:17:12 PM
damn 4 lines tho

all these other guys im watching suck and can barely make 2 rofl

Who the hell are YOU watching? 4lines aren't that hard to make and can be created vertically unlike rows so ???
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Moogs Parfait on November 30, 2014, 09:25:27 PM
Having done a few tests myself:  Athena basically hits 18x consistently, but her spikes are about par with the 3.5x groups since she can't do rows.  Athena teams have a higher minimum damage as long as you're TPAing.  Verche and at least 1 board reset feel required for things like Alt dungeons.  God Valk will be amazing indeed, as will anyone who gets the blue armor knight.


Edit: Blue knight armor, though a blur knight would be cool too  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on November 30, 2014, 09:40:47 PM
Yeah, Athena basically has gdlk consistency and it's hard to get fucked once you get going. She gets sillier if you sub her on a team with a higher multiplier and just watch the light damage go. She nearly let me oneshot Hera on my Dios run just by putting her on my Leilan team, which is HUGE damage I otherwise would not have. Bonus points for enhancing 2/3rds of a 7star.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on November 30, 2014, 09:44:08 PM
Oh shit, did two Take runs not expecting much to come of it and got the light orb on the first floor of my second run. That's 1/4 of the orbs I'll need for Valkyries, which is what I was hoping to get this weekend before the total lack of drops from my ten Thoth And Sopdet runs. Still not sure if I want to keep running it or switch back over to Arboreal Encounter, but I'll figure that out later since I have no stamina now.
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Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 01:47:55 AM
GodFes report - 23 pulls

(http://i.imgur.com/2WpOZmq.png)

Special Gods - 5
NEW - Apocalypse
NEW - Gronia
dupe - GZL (now at 2)
dupe - LMeta (now at 3)
dupe - Urd (now at 2)

Dupes
Hanzo (!!!!!)
Sharon
Genie
Succubus
Fairlio
Strawberry Dragon

Non-dupes
Parvati
Sun Wukong
Gryps Rider
Light Valkyrie (!!!!!!!)
Liza
Light Golem Mk.2

Not shown
Sleeping Beauty
Snow White
Red Chester
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 01:50:25 AM
Red Chester
Isn't this guy like Wetatron rare? :o
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 01:53:32 AM
Isn't this guy like Wetatron rare? :o

I seriously thought he was Blue REM exclusive then I pulled him with my last 5 gems wtf game.

ONLY SPECIAL GOD I WANTED WAS EITHER LKALI OR SKULD
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Post by: Thaws on December 01, 2014, 02:08:44 AM
GodFes report - 23 pulls

(http://i.imgur.com/2WpOZmq.png)

Special Gods - 5
NEW - Apocalypse
NEW - Gronia
dupe - GZL (now at 2)
dupe - LMeta (now at 3)
dupe - Urd (now at 2)

Dupes
Hanzo (!!!!!)
Sharon
Genie
Succubus
Fairlio
Strawberry Dragon

Non-dupes
Parvati
Sun Wukong
Gryps Rider
Light Valkyrie (!!!!!!!)
Liza
Light Golem Mk.2

Not shown
Sleeping Beauty
Snow White
Red Chester

Great pulls! Though the dupe special gods kinda sucks, especially since they aren't the "itself is its own best sub" kind of special gods.
Took you long enough to get a light valk, now you can go nuts with your Light Healers team.
Red Chester :o seriously thought it's boy's gacha exclusive.

I'm opting for the 2nd half of the godfes starting in 4 hours.
Egypts 2.0 and Rome 2.0 too good. Hoping I'd get at least something out of this wishlist: Nut, Osiris, Hathor, Hermes, Artemis, Apollo, Kalis, Verodani, Hanzo, LMeta :V
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Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 02:30:52 AM

Took you long enough to get a light valk, now you can go nuts with your Light Healers team.

i also got Rei=Sirius off-fest too

THE LIGHT HEALER TEAM IS REAL
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 03:38:15 AM
welp the day is almost over and still no stone

gungho pls
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 01, 2014, 04:51:53 AM
With the sheer amount of rage on facebook there is no way they're not aware of it. It's just that Gungho NA fucking sucks at transparency and probably won't say anything about it until the last minute. I feel we'll have a compensation stone with out daily stone tomorrow.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Calamity on December 01, 2014, 05:34:10 AM
Stone appeared now, rolled Shiva. The game is throwing me all the perfect Ronia subs.
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Post by: commandercool on December 01, 2014, 05:49:46 AM
Ha. My assbag neighbor with the three red Sonias and two of every Odin just did four pulls in front of me. Bastet, Cupid, light Kali, Meimei. He has two light Kalis now. I would be jealous except I know he can never surpass me because he's incompetent and too lazy to try anything but rows.
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Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 06:06:14 AM
Ha. My assbag neighbor with the three red Sonias and two of every Odin just did four pulls in front of me. Bastet, Cupid, light Kali, Meimei. He has two light Kalis now. I would be jealous except I know he can never surpass me because he's incompetent and too lazy to try anything but rows.

TFW you see someone roll good shit you know they will never use...........................................
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Post by: Thaws on December 01, 2014, 06:51:09 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/eFeeafg.png)

OMGGGG YES ALL MY YES
First roll nets me Dark Valkyrie!!!
FULL SET
OMG
WOW!
much valkyrie
so TPAs

Including my dupe blue valk, I'm going to need 6 extreme meta dragons oh hell.

Poring Tower for JP when :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 07:09:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/eFeeafg.png)

wow i wanted a REM valk :c

i pulled 27 (all bought stones) times total to try and get a REM valk, and I get the non-REM valk anyway...

Guess I can't complain :X

EDIT:

It's finally happening

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/539316973453078528 Awoken Hades
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on December 01, 2014, 07:43:52 AM

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/539316973453078528 Awoken Hades

Omg Hades
I have a D/L and D/D one. +32 on the D/D one too. Please make him good.

(http://i.imgur.com/zuGOJu9.png)
So I did 10 rolls in total. Joining the "I broke PAD" bandwagon.

7/10 Golds:
Dark Valk (Yessss best DMeta/Pandora subs)
Wood Weejas (When my bastet team needs bind rcv I guess, or when Green rcv becomes a thing)
Light Kali (HELL YEAH)
Red Chester x2 (wat)
Red Sonia (whatever at least I can finally say I have a ronia. good for challenge modes lol)
Apollo (yay but does he still have a spot in Kirin teams with LKali being a thing? More subs for athena team tho)

I'm sooo tempted to keep going but dat dup red chester and shinryuu killed all my enthusiasm

Edit: Fed 5 angelits to Lkali, got a skill up. Nice.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 07:51:28 AM
i'll trade my dupe special gods for that LKali or hell even any one of your valks. come on man.

mfw whaling you still dont know wtf to do with your crap. because you dont get anything you want :V
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Post by: Thaws on December 01, 2014, 08:39:15 AM
i'll trade my dupe special gods for that LKali or hell even any one of your valks. come on man.

mfw whaling you still dont know wtf to do with your crap. because you dont get anything you want :V

sorry man my valks are not up for sale :V
I want a Verodani not Urd anyways :V :V :V

I wouldn't worry about what to do with stuff at the moment really. It's nice when you pull a good leader and start building your team from there but some stuff do just sit in your box for a long time until you finally have a use for it. Parvati is still the sole god-type heartmaker in this game so she still have her place in various teams? Sun Wukong is like the hardest Hero is build a team around though ._.
I don't know what to say about the triple LMetas...
I mean my Gab sat in my box for over a year before I rolled a I&I (and SQ and blue valk before that) and his ult made him healers.

Looked in my box and this is probably the best TPA LKali team I can form, but its rcv sucks... :/ I like how LKali + DMeta = all elements you need
LKali/Athena/Fuutarou/Izanagi/DMeta/LKali
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 01, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
I am buzzing with excitement because Awoken Hades confirmation all but confirms Awoken Venus as well.

I so called it. :P
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Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 08:51:01 AM
I so called it. :P

pls  :derp:

sorry man my valks are not up for sale :V
I want a Verodani not Urd anyways :V :V :V

yeah see I would rather Verdandi too, because I have way more R/G than I have R/B, for fuck sake I even evolved Leviathan to Dragon/Attacker B/R so I can have another option for Urd. =/
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Post by: Thaws on December 01, 2014, 09:36:13 AM
yeah see I would rather Verdandi too, because I have way more R/G than I have R/B, for fuck sake I even evolved Leviathan to Dragon/Attacker B/R so I can have another option for Urd. =/

welp I can't ever recall these norns' names correctly.
There's so much jammer/poison orbs changing going around in descent nowadays I feel full board changes are necessary but every time I press on Avalondrake I have to wish so hard it doesn't troll me with just like less than 8 orbs on one colour. Verdandi is like a better meimei as both red->green and heart->green are so abundant. Fits perfectly in my dream moonstet TPA team. ;-;

At least you can now put another Urd into your urd team which is kinda legit. lol

I am buzzing with excitement because Awoken Hades confirmation all but confirms Awoken Venus as well.

I so called it. :P

But she's the only one with a still-relevant active. Will she get an active change? but at least four extra awakenings would be really great.
Also assuming she needs Light Zeus and Hera to evolve, what would be her other typing besides devil then? (Others are getting the 2nd typing from their Zeus's sub-type) Hope she keeps the healers type!
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Post by: Espadas on December 01, 2014, 09:39:27 AM
"Here's a sneak peek at upcoming character Almadel!"

(http://i.imgur.com/xBRL5hr.jpg)


1) Yup, SNEAK PEEK indeed....

2) First comment on PDX is win

3) she shows at least 3 of the 4 western elements and have an actual lock 'n chain as her belt? Key of Solomon?

3) if she is the first 3 elements monster half the playerbase will flip  :V
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Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 09:49:59 AM

3) she shows at least 3 of the 4 western elements and have an actual lock 'n chain as her belt? Key of Solomon?


well yes, Ars Almadel is Book 4 of the Lesser Key of Solomon.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on December 01, 2014, 10:27:03 AM
Does Princess Punt Collab have anything worth keeping? The final boss and the princess herself don't seem much....

On the same vein, should i keep Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn etc... from DC Collab? (Darkseid will never leave my box since he is literally my only "solar lazer" user)
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Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
Does Princess Punt Collab have anything worth keeping? The final boss and the princess herself don't seem much....

On the same vein, should i keep Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn etc... from DC Collab? (Darkseid will never leave my box since he is literally my only "solar lazer" user)

i still keep lex luthor but that's about it

only keep doomsday if you don't have chester yet

rest = skillups
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 01, 2014, 11:52:10 AM
Okay, so I just ran a full gauntlet of Alt. Castle of Satan with Leilan/Athena and all I'm gonna say is MOVE SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY. Abuse the enemies' slowass timers to the max, because I ran into a Vampire and High Gold Dragon and those fuckers will not go down with just one Light TPA. Anyone running Alt. Tomb of the Saint - Deep will not run into these problems, as these enemies are absent.

Exp/Money is fucking hilarious tho.

welp I can't ever recall these norns' names correctly.
Verdandi is like a better meimei as both red->green and heart->green are so abundant. Fits perfectly in my dream moonstet TPA team. ;-;

I also want her because my Leilan team tends to be heavy R/G, and I can slot Valk in to turn it into a 7star if I wanted, giving me three 7stars. Extra HP might also be needed so she can be tagged into the lead slot as well.
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 12:20:42 PM
...

GAME

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME GAME

I just got my 600 day login bonus (10 stones).

Pulled twice, got my third Pandora AND my third Ronia.

What the hell. ;_;

Edit: Hadn't beaten heracles mythical yet, got another stone for another pull

...................................... Lu Bu.

...

GAME

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME GAME
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 01, 2014, 12:48:11 PM
Glad I pulled before work today as I got my login stones from yesterday and today.

Kushi get!
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Post by: commandercool on December 01, 2014, 01:33:34 PM
If anyone does the coin dungeon Blade Of Justice Master today please let me know how much experience it gives. I can squeeze six runs out of it with a rankup, I just have to know when the best time to go in is. Hopefully I can get away with skillmaxing Verche doing that so I don't have to spend too much of my Sun Quan fund.
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Post by: Yukarin on December 01, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
I GOT A GODDAMN BLONIA!!!!!!

but i have no subs for her

im just probably have to sub her in one of my rainbow teams i guess
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 01, 2014, 02:14:03 PM
So Kanetsugu is public knowledge by now. However, this came up not too long ago on PDX.

(http://i.imgur.com/4yMvxaq.png)

It starts 30 minutes after Kanetsugu...

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 01, 2014, 02:21:04 PM
1) Yup, SNEAK PEEK indeed....

2) First comment on PDX is win

Please don't do this. :/



Anyway, got another pull today. Persephone! I think I just won devil sub bingo.

Also today was day 367 for me, so double super gold kings! Fed them along with my gold queen to Venus.

It is also worth noting that the Princess Punt collab, while pointless and piss easy, gives two stones instead of just one.
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Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 02:34:42 PM
"Here's a sneak peek at upcoming character Almadel!"

(http://i.imgur.com/xBRL5hr.jpg)


1) Yup, SNEAK PEEK indeed....

2) First comment on PDX is win

3) she shows at least 3 of the 4 western elements and have an actual lock 'n chain as her belt? Key of Solomon?

3) if she is the first 3 elements monster half the playerbase will flip  :V
look at that smug ass little bird

...

GAME

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME GAME

I just got my 600 day login bonus (10 stones).

Pulled twice, got my third Pandora AND my third Ronia.

What the hell. ;_;

Edit: Hadn't beaten heracles mythical yet, got another stone for another pull

...................................... Lu Bu.

okay here's what you do

Ronia, Ronia, Ronia, Lubu

BUT with dual Devil Bastet leaders BV
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Post by: Espadas on December 01, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Edible = Pandora - Ronia - Lu Bu
Jq1790 = Kushi
Yukarin = Blonia
Madoka = Persephone

Espadas = Shining Dragon Swordman

.... can i just say that i hate you all and be done with it?  :V
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 03:01:19 PM
I'm keeping Bastet as g/l for now, unless I really need a green devil for rainbow dungeons or something.

Ronia/Ronia/Ronia/Lu Bu/Belial/Ronia seems fair, imo :V

6 fire rows, 5 dark rows, 11 skill boosts :getdown:

On the other hand, I don't really need lu bu's active for most descends as it is.  Ronia/Ronia/Ronia/Shiva/Belial/Ronia is 8 fire rows, 4 dark rows, 10 skill boosts, and 2.5 extra seconds of matching time once I get all the ronias ult evoed.
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Post by: trancehime on December 01, 2014, 03:04:46 PM
Edible = Pandora - Ronia - Lu Bu
Jq1790 = Kushi
Yukarin = Blonia
Madoka = Persephone

Espadas = Shining Dragon Swordman

.... can i just say that i hate you all and be done with it?  :V

i got my gronia on my 17th pull so yeah..... that's the whale song for me i guess lol
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 01, 2014, 03:24:26 PM
...

GAME

WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME GAME

I just got my 600 day login bonus (10 stones).

Pulled twice, got my third Pandora AND my third Ronia.

What the hell. ;_;

Edit: Hadn't beaten heracles mythical yet, got another stone for another pull

...................................... Lu Bu.
WHY DO THE RNG GODS FAVOR YOU!?
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 03:30:25 PM
I pay them in liver damage.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 01, 2014, 04:13:49 PM
(http://puzzledragonx.com/en/img/monster/MONS_1731.jpg)
Why is this not Devil sub-type I don't know.

Clearly Devil needs healers too.

Atleast she's a viable D.Meta sub...IF I GET ONE.
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Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 04:15:49 PM
because dmeta clearly needed more subs :V
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 01, 2014, 04:22:59 PM
I'd be fine with a devil healer series.

Knowing PAD they'd all be personified BDSM fetishes though.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 01, 2014, 04:24:32 PM
because dmeta clearly needed more subs :V

She did, but not anymore BV
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 01, 2014, 05:04:57 PM
If anyone does the coin dungeon Blade Of Justice Master today please let me know how much experience it gives. I can squeeze six runs out of it with a rankup, I just have to know when the best time to go in is. Hopefully I can get away with skillmaxing Verche doing that so I don't have to spend too much of my Sun Quan fund.

3,332 EXP on both of my runs, so that should probably be your average.

Dropped a mystic light knight both times too so...
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 05:52:31 PM
Dark orb #2.  That's two ult evoed Ronias (when I get some more fire dragon fruits...)

Now I need one more, and then I'm done until I want to awaken kagutsuchi.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 01, 2014, 06:38:36 PM
0/7 verche skillups in 12 runs

Orz
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 01, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
So interesting note for anyone that may have noticed that Alt. castle of Satan has an unusually high gold payout variance - that's a real thing. If you run into a High Gold Dragon in there and you beat it, it drops 75,000 coins in raw cash . They're hard as shit to defeat, though.
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Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 07:21:32 PM
Does Alt Tower of Flare actually have Bubpy? Cause pdx is wrong about this stuff all the time
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Post by: Thaws on December 01, 2014, 08:21:41 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/zuGOJu9.png)
So I did 10 rolls in total. Joining the "I broke PAD" bandwagon.

7/10 Golds:
Dark Valk (Yessss best DMeta/Pandora subs)
Wood Weejas (When my bastet team needs bind rcv I guess, or when Green rcv becomes a thing)
Light Kali (HELL YEAH)
Red Chester x2 (wat)
Red Sonia (whatever at least I can finally say I have a ronia. good for challenge modes lol)
Apollo (yay but does he still have a spot in Kirin teams with LKali being a thing? More subs for athena team tho)

I'm sooo tempted to keep going but dat dup red chester and shinryuu killed all my enthusiasm

Edit: Fed 5 angelits to Lkali, got a skill up. Nice.

2 more pulls. Got a hermes, just in time for saint seiya skill ups!! My andromeda team might actually get somewhere now!
Not even mad I didn't get any egypts 2.0 :V
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Post by: Dr Rawr on December 01, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
i got pretty salty about the 4 yomi pulls and decided to throw some money and got 2 meimei, sun quan, and a amaterasu.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 01, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
So Kanetsugu is public knowledge by now. However, this came up not too long ago on PDX.

(http://i.imgur.com/4yMvxaq.png)

It starts 30 minutes after Kanetsugu...

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I did the time-travel thing while waiting for an appointment,
Zeus Mercury -and- Zhang Fei will be open starting this hour.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 01, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
That's extremely strange. I wonder why it'd be a mystery to show things we already know about.

Also how do you time travel?
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 01, 2014, 09:10:25 PM
Just change your cellphone's time and date to whatever time you want to check, you'll be able to check how the game will look at that time though you won't be able to actually play since the game runs a check with the server for these things. Just change the time and date back to do your stuff normally.

This also seems to mess with your stamina display.
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Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 09:14:20 PM
shit i need 10 tamadras for athena

and i still need 60 more ranks to be able to do two tamadra runs per stone/rankup


whatever at least meimei is cute :>
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Post by: Chaore on December 01, 2014, 09:35:56 PM
whatever at least meimei is cute :>

meimei best china girl

benchpresses 12 kirins and 6 haku
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 01, 2014, 09:39:38 PM
shit i need 10 tamadras for athena

and i still need 60 more ranks to be able to do two tamadra runs per stone/rankup


whatever at least meimei is cute :>

I picked an hour dungeon I wanted to run at the same time and did both alternating. In my case it was star vault. This at least kept my waste down
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Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 09:52:37 PM
Hmm that's a good idea

oh also metal gold outbreak tomorrow well how about that
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 09:58:53 PM
I ran tamadra village alongside super rubies or something, got one of each per stone

Worked out pretty well.
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 10:02:13 PM
In other news, with blue valk getting two TPAs eventually, my U&Y would look something like this:

U&Y (2x TPA)
U&Y (2x TPA)
Blue Valk (2x TPA)
Orochi (2x TPA)
Blodin (no TPA but he's odin)
U&Y (2x TPA)

Basically, lol.
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Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
Replace U&Y sub with Muse for hilarious burst

also that's basically my team goddammit gimme
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 10:10:36 PM
I'm trying to think of a boss that could tank a 25x hit with TPAs from that team

Not really coming up with anything :V
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Post by: Suikama on December 01, 2014, 10:12:09 PM
You can also use SQ over Orochi for the healer boost and more practical delay


meanwhile Kanetsugu is coming up and I'm 754 HP short of being able to survive a buffed hit goddammit
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Post by: Edible on December 01, 2014, 10:26:32 PM
You can also use SQ over Orochi for the healer boost and more practical delay

Believe me, if I had SQ he'd be there :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 01, 2014, 10:41:16 PM
I'm trying to think of a boss that could tank a 25x hit with TPAs from that team

Not really coming up with anything :V

If you get 2 x 4lines in there somehow on top of the U&Y activation then I think even Dios might crumple.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 02, 2014, 12:10:48 AM
gdi
I got a Shiva. I don't want more Red Devils that work fantastic with Ronia.
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 12:36:48 AM
oh right godfest is still up

hrng i need to save stones but there are some other things that i could use, namely all three odins because they're just ridiculously good for so many things, kalis because they're kalis (and they make great isis subs huehuehue), and I guess izanagi as a shitty muse stand in lol

hmm then again that's just the godfest only gods that show up every godfest lol okay so w/e


oh yeah antonio & dragons up in 1.5 hours
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Post by: Edible on December 02, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
ROLL THE DRAGON SUIKAMA
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 02, 2014, 12:58:05 AM
SING THE SONG OF HAPPY WHALES IN DESPAIR
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 01:39:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/1kQXewk.jpg)

oh baby

SING THE SONG OF HAPPY WHALES IN DESPAIR
one day ill whale all of the rem gods and make them all into isis subs BV
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 02, 2014, 01:59:27 AM
Also,

(http://i.imgur.com/dT086Gm.jpg)

Ult Liu Bei. (http://i.imgur.com/dT086Gm.jpg)

90% complete, also seems like there's going to be branching paths for him.

This probably means that the next batch of ults will be r3k and heroes, though I wonder why specifically the green ones are getting made first (what, are they trying to give  green more love?)

Also stream is live.
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 02:07:17 AM
oh im higher rank than antonio lol

L. KALI PLS

#STAGED
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 02, 2014, 02:17:13 AM
antonio pulls a dryad and then a meimei

Antonio: "I really need to roll a Kali."

> Proceeds to roll LKali

that escalated quickly
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Post by: commandercool on December 02, 2014, 02:20:03 AM
Yaaaay ultimate Sun Quan. Give me whatever. Any awakens, any sub-element, any stats. I don't care, just more things. He's fine as-is, but occasionally not having a second attack hurts against enemies like Ra.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 02, 2014, 02:36:19 AM
...I just noticed the liu bei art has three colors (green on the back, red dragon on the right being impaled by spear, blue dragon on the left, same thing)

ARE WE GONNA START HAVING 3 COLOR MONSTERS?
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 02:42:56 AM
Miss smugbird has 3 elements in her picture too so maybe its soon to be a thing.
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Post by: Thaws on December 02, 2014, 02:45:48 AM
Yaaaay ultimate Sun Quan. Give me whatever. Any awakens, any sub-element, any stats. I don't care, just more things. He's fine as-is, but occasionally not having a second attack hurts against enemies like Ra.

You might have to wait a bit because they might be doing it like Heroes and start from those that need the ult most. (Sun Wukong needs lots of help but the main problem is Light is like the 2way element now and Heroes just don't work with 2way)
What's interesting is that Zhao Yun is probably going to get a LS change, mostly something Cauchemar-style.

...I just noticed the liu bei art has three colors (green on the back, red dragon on the right being impaled by spear, blue dragon on the left, same thing)

ARE WE GONNA START HAVING 3 COLOR MONSTERS?
Almadel has the same 3 colour thing too :o Could it really be!!???

By the way, I'm surprised Almadel is part of a new series (another non-god gacha series?) instead of the next type-restrict descent. lol
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 02, 2014, 03:01:45 AM
Miss smugbird has 3 elements in her picture too so maybe its soon to be a thing.

#RainbowZaerogConfirmed :V
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 03:04:07 AM
holy shit i though antonio was going to get killed in one hit when he didnt combo kanetsugu

but he's just playing legend >__>


SUDDENLY MORE DUNGEONS

i have no stam for this >_>
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Post by: commandercool on December 02, 2014, 03:12:53 AM
Seriously, one fucking drop in six runs of Blade Of Justice master? No skillup off of it either, although that's not unusual. I was hoping this would be relatively painless, but no, extreme pain it is again I guess. :wat:
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 02, 2014, 03:53:45 AM
Also,

(http://i.imgur.com/dT086Gm.jpg)

Ult Liu Bei. (http://i.imgur.com/dT086Gm.jpg)

90% complete, also seems like there's going to be branching paths for him.

This probably means that the next batch of ults will be r3k and heroes, though I wonder why specifically the green ones are getting made first (what, are they trying to give  green more love?)

Also stream is live.
Will I be seeing a Lu Bu ulti soon?
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Post by: Bio on December 02, 2014, 03:59:23 AM
Ahh, I tried my luck at a final roll and only got a Dark Dragon Knight :(
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 02, 2014, 04:10:55 AM
Ahh, I tried my luck at a final roll and only got a Dark Dragon Knight :(
I got a Titan....LOL.

EDIBLE I CURSE YOU.
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Post by: Edible on December 02, 2014, 04:17:25 AM
:derp:
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 02, 2014, 04:22:55 AM
TOP DROIDRAGON AWAKENINGS FINALLY CONFIRMED BY ANTONIO

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 04:26:06 AM
Holy shit fucking finally

(http://i.imgur.com/4D3zzg8.png)
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Post by: Chaore on December 02, 2014, 05:37:15 AM
I made some mistakes earlier.

I have obtained my fourth grodin, a ronia, and two GZL. Also Haku.
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Post by: trancehime on December 02, 2014, 05:47:30 AM
I'm trying to think of a boss that could tank a 25x hit with TPAs from that team

Not really coming up with anything :V

athena in challenge dungeon 3 has 8.5m hp, maybe her?

EDIT:

i guess i should also mention this.

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141119_skill.html#next
Skillups for Evo Mat Monsters for the first half of December:

Angelit --> Raphael
Devilit --> DMeta (not ultimate)
Trifruits --> Sonia of the matching color
Keeper of Gold --> LZL
Blue Sacred Mask --> Orochi
Green Sacred Mask --> Avalon Drake
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 02, 2014, 06:00:18 AM
Took 3 attempts, but opening day 0stone rekt

(http://i.imgur.com/59B9OHL.png)
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 02, 2014, 07:06:08 AM
Keeper of Gold --> LZL

well
time to farm golden keepers

As far as Tomb of the Saint-Deep goes, I've had the most success with Supergirl/LZL/Purin/Valkyrie/Echidna/Light Metatron. I one shot the boss with a skyfall TPA. :3
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
alright kanetsugu you dont look so tough, time to get re-

[All Att. Needed]

...fuck

maybe i should have pulled more

oh well I guess it's gold keeper time


Hoooooly shit Gold Keeper finally 0 stoned!

Isis da best BV


and mega satan get
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 02, 2014, 05:34:34 PM
I wish we had more free jewels in NA. I can make both Heras with ones I have in JP right now.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 02, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
I'm losing so much stam fighting kanetsugu and he just will not drop :(
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 02, 2014, 06:24:09 PM
I'm losing so much stam fighting kanetsugu and he just will not drop :(

Is mythical that much harder. He only hits for 3k, so you can stall on him for a while.
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 08:12:12 PM
>wait until 1.5x drops to farm arboreal
>0 drops

yeah nevermind im not gonna bother with this
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 02, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
Is mythical that much harder. He only hits for 3k, so you can stall on him for a while.

If you haev bad rcv, he will give you a bad time. Pretty much anything that cannot be swept in one turn easily is survivable.
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Post by: Suikama on December 02, 2014, 08:33:15 PM
My issue is I'll probably accidentally hit him under 85% while stalling, at which point he perfectly murders me in one hit

dammit bubblie why are your stats so bad

oh wait right i cant even use bubblie because all atts required nevermind
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 02, 2014, 08:39:06 PM
So confirming that you can encounter multiple high gold dragons in one alt satan run, leading to silly stuff like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/rSEAh78.png)
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Post by: commandercool on December 02, 2014, 11:18:31 PM
>wait until 1.5x drops to farm arboreal
>0 drops

yeah nevermind im not gonna bother with this

Two drops on 11 runs since the 1.5x drops. But I have 11 chasers overall for just three days of farming, so I guess I'm gonna keep going.

Is there ever a reason to do Master survey dungeons? 40% for 40 stamina seems waaay worse than 20% for 15, and even superworse if the monster you want has a chance to appear in the trash waves (although chaser does not). The experience and gold certainly don't seem worth it. I don't understand why the master versions exist.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 02, 2014, 11:36:24 PM
Two drops on 11 runs since the 1.5x drops. But I have 11 chasers overall for just three days of farming, so I guess I'm gonna keep going.

Is there ever a reason to do Master survey dungeons? 40% for 40 stamina seems waaay worse than 20% for 15, and even superworse if the monster you want has a chance to appear in the trash waves (although chaser does not). The experience and gold certainly don't seem worth it. I don't understand why the master versions exist.
Less expected returns overall, but much higher per-run expectations.  More for people with enough stamina to run Master like 3-4 times or more I'm guessing so they don't have to spend as many TOTAL runs.
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Post by: Chaore on December 03, 2014, 12:59:23 AM
Is there ever a reason to do Master survey dungeons? 40% for 40 stamina seems waaay worse than 20% for 15, and even superworse if the monster you want has a chance to appear in the trash waves (although chaser does not). The experience and gold certainly don't seem worth it. I don't understand why the master versions exist.

consistency

i've basically surpassed what i got doing expert and getting -extremely- lucky and planning shit out doing master so uh

yeah? Yeah. That's a thing straight out tbh
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Post by: commandercool on December 03, 2014, 01:09:31 AM
consistency

i've basically surpassed what i got doing expert and getting -extremely- lucky and planning shit out doing master so uh

yeah? Yeah. That's a thing straight out tbh

I'm not great at statistics, but isn't that consistency too costly to ever be effective? Almost triple the cost for double the drop rate might make sense if it bumped the drop rate up to 100%, but since it still gives a very significant chance of getting nothing (cough one Mystic Knight out of six runs cough) there's still too much luck involved for it to be efficient. Or am I doing my math wrong?
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 02:00:42 AM
Is expert really 20% drop rate? feels a lot less tbh
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Post by: Chaore on December 03, 2014, 02:03:47 AM
I'm not great at statistics, but isn't that consistency too costly to ever be effective? Almost triple the cost for double the drop rate might make sense if it bumped the drop rate up to 100%, but since it still gives a very significant chance of getting nothing (cough one Mystic Knight out of six runs cough) there's still too much luck involved for it to be efficient. Or am I doing my math wrong?

probably

but nah fuck statistics, the difference assuming those numbers aren't particularly high and aren't really any less subject to 'but but luck!'

Is expert really 20% drop rate? feels a lot less tbh

people have floated a bunch of numbers for both difficulties tbh, i remember hearing almost 50% when master first came out, and I've heard 15% for expert

we honest don't really know what we're talking about and we're mostly discussing anecdotal bullshit overall really
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 02:05:10 AM
Is expert really 20% drop rate? feels a lot less tbh

supposedly. what I want to know is, is Master really 40%? feels a lot less!

actually when Survey Dungeon 11 was in Japan, I was doing 10+ runs of Expert on 1.5x drop rate. NO Light Chasers.
The next day there was no drop rate, I did Expert again once and then I got one Yellow Chaser drop.

I mean. It's just. Why. I got better drop rates from the other survey dungeon. Actually come to think of it Scarlet Snake Princess is guilty of the same shit too isn't it? :(

but nah fuck statistics, the difference assuming those numbers aren't particularly high and aren't really any less subject to 'but but luck!'

Welcome to P&D: "But but luck!"

Quote
we honest don't really know what we're talking about and we're mostly discussing anecdotal bullshit overall really

tbf when that's all we've got to go on currently.............................
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Post by: commandercool on December 03, 2014, 02:24:58 AM
probably

but nah fuck statistics, the difference assuming those numbers aren't particularly high and aren't really any less subject to 'but but luck!'

Assuming those number are correct, and I guess I am (and honestly we really should have real numbers on this by now given how many people play PAD, unless the numbers shift over time which is possible I suppose) the difference is marginal.

But putting more eggs in one basket does literally make you more subject to luck. One 50% chance to win a million dollars does subject you more to luck than a million 50% chances to get a dollar assuming we equate "luck" and "chance". You'll pay out more if you win, but chance is a much bigger factor. So I guess Master is a matter of whether you feel lucky, and I certainly don't. I'd rather hedge my bets on a bunch of small chances than a few large ones, especially if the numbers are (potentially/probably) actually higher overall.

And if it turns out the 20%/40% numbers aren't actually right, who knows? I'd almost have to assume that the Master drop rate is actually higher than that because it was allegedly to make farming easier and we're even having this conversation.

Is expert really 20% drop rate? feels a lot less tbh

If I had to guess I'd have put it at 25%, but I might be taking trash waves into account and mostly thinking about Scarlet Snake Princess. But so far my drops for Arboreal Encounter expert have been at least that good.
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 02:31:15 AM
more like master exists to save on time. with a full stamina bar I get 11 runs of expert and 4 runs of master which is far less tedious for only a possibly little bit lower drop chance
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Post by: Chaore on December 03, 2014, 02:34:56 AM
But putting more eggs in one basket does literally make you more subject to luck. One 50% chance to win a million dollars does subject you more to luck than a million 50% chances to get a dollar assuming we equate "luck" and "chance". You'll pay out more if you win, but chance is a much bigger factor. So I guess Master is a matter of whether you feel lucky, and I certainly don't. I'd rather hedge my bets on a bunch of small chances than a few large ones, especially if the numbers are (potentially/probably) actually higher overall.

This is a lot different than a million shots vs. one shot though

that's not even fair.

and the chances aren't anywhere near even

it's not the same case at all

If I had to guess I'd have put it at 25%, but I might be taking trash waves into account and mostly thinking about Scarlet Snake Princess. But so far my drops for Arboreal Encounter expert have been at least that good.

and i'd but master at something like 50% tbh

but both of us would be refuted by lower results of significant value.

more like master exists to save on time. with a full stamina bar I get 11 runs of expert and 4 runs of master which is far less tedious for only a possibly little bit lower drop chance

also this i guess

i really haven't seen any loss of chasers compared to expert too so it's pretty convenient
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 02:36:08 AM
more like master exists to save on time. with a full stamina bar I get 11 runs of expert and 4 runs of master which is far less tedious for only a possibly little bit lower drop chance

i guess it makes sense, since for higher rank players with a lot of stamina to burn, it can make things easier.

but when 40 stam for me is almost half of my stamina bar, I ain't taking it yet
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Post by: commandercool on December 03, 2014, 02:44:59 AM
This is a lot different than a million shots vs. one shot though

that's not even fair.

and the chances aren't anywhere near even

it's not the same case at all

Well yeah, obviously it's an exaggerated example for effect or it would just be re-stating what we already have and that doesn't do any good.  It's a bad example, but the point is the more tries you get the more you tend toward the mean and the less chance is a factor.

and i'd but master at something like 50% tbh

Well, good I guess. So far for all I can tell the Master drop rate is like 5%. I know that's not representative, but since it's been so bad I'm trying to do the math on how I should proceed and not reeeeally seeing the benefit. It's horribly flawed math, but that's what I got. I'm just waiting for someone who actually knows how to do math to come in here and be all "No, you did it all wrong, the numbers are actually completely the opposite", but until then I think I did it right with the limited information I have.

more like master exists to save on time. with a full stamina bar I get 11 runs of expert and 4 runs of master which is far less tedious for only a possibly little bit lower drop chance
also this i guess

i really haven't seen any loss of chasers compared to expert too so it's pretty convenient

Yeah fair enough, and I suppose that can matter a lot with coin dungeons where time is of the essence. But I like playing PAD and often after blasting ten hours' worth of stamina on a few runs of a dungeon and getting nothing I'm just disappointed I didn't get to play very much.
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Post by: Bio on December 03, 2014, 05:19:37 AM
I get more plus eggs from the dungeon than I do chasers.
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 06:33:16 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540030612808032256

new monsters announcements to come by this Friday
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Post by: Thaws on December 03, 2014, 06:57:01 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540030612808032256

new monsters announcements to come by this Friday

Nah she says moar buffs coming this Friday.

In other news, I think JP just got two Extreme Meta Dragon Guerilla without a Super Gold guerilla in between? lolwat
This game hates light confirmed.
I have a LKali to level up ;-;
But Extreme Meta is said to have better returns than running any super meta dragon even if not counting the 1.5x same element bonus you're missing out on. I want to get to 198 stamina now :(
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 07:18:35 AM
Nah she says moar buffs coming this Friday.


>一部のキャラクターの上方修正
>の上方修正

oh fuck me I totally missed that

1. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540056233089060864
Gamble Mage buff:
Gets 5 awakenings: 3 Dark Orb Enhance, 1 finger, 1 skill boost

2. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540056575541391361
Chrono Turtle buff:
Gets 5 awakenings: Water Orb Enhance, 1 skill block, 1 skill boost, 2 fingers

3. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540056885655658496
Okuninushi buff:
AS Dark enhance increased from 1.30x to 1.50x

4. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540057120129826818
Hera-Is UVO buff:
LS: At 50% HP or above, God and Devil ATK x3. Additionally, Devil HP and RCV x1.5
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 03, 2014, 08:24:50 AM
At least Hera-Is is a little better now. Could not care remotely less about Gamble Mage and Chrono Turtle because lol JP exclusives.
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Post by: Thaws on December 03, 2014, 08:45:47 AM
1. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540056233089060864
Gamble Mage buff:
Gets 5 awakenings: 3 Dark Orb Enhance, 1 finger, 1 skill boost

2. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540056575541391361
Chrono Turtle buff:
Gets 5 awakenings: Water Orb Enhance, 1 skill block, 1 skill boost, 2 fingers

3. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540056885655658496
Okuninushi buff:
AS Dark enhance increased from 1.30x to 1.50x

4. https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540057120129826818
Hera-Is UVO buff:
LS: At 50% HP or above, God and Devil ATK x3. Additionally, Devil HP and RCV x1.5

Gamble Mage: a poor man's Ookuni? oh well he and turtle might get a ult along with LS change someday.
Turtle: TWO FINGERS. He's like a poor man's Yomi except B/G is godly element combination for rainbow teams, especially R/L horus.
Ookuni: Probably due to people complaining it overwriting Loki enhances.
Hera-Is: Ok LS actually make sense now, so when are they removing the stupid hp requirement on SQ and G/D astaroth's recovery boost? Liu Bei's getting ults so his LS might be fixed by then.

Overall comment -- Took them long enough to figure out how stupid HP above 50%, rcv x1.5 was. Especially when 1/2.5/2.5 ronias exist, I mean come on seriously...

At least Hera-Is is a little better now. Could not care remotely less about Gamble Mage and Chrono Turtle because lol JP exclusives.

JP just got the mage and turtle in a muracore last weekend. NA likely to get them too? Since they've no copyright issues at all probably. (Were their origin some kind of user monster design competition? speaking of which what happened to the one held a few months ago lol They announced the winners and their designs on Cauchemar livestream but no news since then)

Edit: I just looked at the SSes. Gamble mage's active was changed. It's cd seemed to have massively lowered? (It became 4 at max) and its skill has an additional effect of creating three dark orbs RANDOMLY in addition to random damage now. Cool.
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 09:12:46 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540068863837093889

3rd of the Magic Book Series: It's Ars Nova!

EDIT:

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141203_skill.html

and that's literally it wtf gungho.
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Post by: Thaws on December 03, 2014, 09:52:22 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540068863837093889

3rd of the Magic Book Series: It's Ars Nova!

EDIT:

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141203_skill.html

and that's literally it wtf gungho.

kawaii
Will this be next god series or magician-like non-god series? Seems to be the latter since it's too early for another god series but didn't we just have magicians and knights too? Too many new characters! They're out for our stones :qq:

And that's like the usual size of buffs anyways. It's just the previous three were unusually large (they did call it unprecedented large-scale buff afterall)
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 10:12:07 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540084746064109568

Goetia
D/G - Physical / Devil
Awakenings: 2 Dark Orb Enhance, 1 Skill Boost, 2 Green Orb Enhance
AS: Summon Dark - Changes 3 random orbs to Dark orbs. Enhances all Dark Orbs in board.
LS: Twin Seal of the Magic Book Dk/Wd - Dark attribute ATK x2.5, Green attribute ATK x1.4??. When monsters are both attributes, their ATK is x3.5

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540084910912851968

Ars Nova
L/R - Attacker / Devil
Awakenings: 2 Light Orb Enhance, 1 Skill Boost, 2 Red Orb Enhance
AS: Summon Light - Changes 3 random orbs to Light orbs. Enhances all Light Orbs on board.
LS: Twin Seal of the Magic Book Lt/Fr - Light attribute ATK x2.5, Red attribute ATK x1.4??. When monsters are both attributes, their ATK is x3.5

i will fill in the blank later
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 03, 2014, 10:16:20 AM
Gungho is getting really peculiar with leader skills recently. First the norns, now these. Still, they look interesting.
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 10:20:09 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540087567333351426

...

Stamina overflow mechanic? Are u srs gungho?

This is the same mechanic of overflow as in Monstrike.

Gungho is getting really peculiar with leader skills recently. First the norns, now these.

Having used Urd for some time now I can say that in her particular case, she has it the worst because there is an insanely small pool of competent Red and Blue subs. But of course, you can still run mono-fire with Urd. And she can be a sub for herself, which is good! Skuld and Verdandi are much better for their style of LS because their color combinations are getting more and more plentiful, in the case of Skuld though it's quite REM heavy.
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Post by: Thaws on December 03, 2014, 10:38:02 AM
Damnit gungho stop with these LS that restricts your member choice to like *only these few* It's not fun :V (Though you can sub a few with only the main colour matching and the team still functions well I guess)
And I don't see how x3.5 is worth it when there are easier to satisfy type-restrict LSes out there that are just as good.

Unless they're really buffing orb enhance awakening to god-tier next update. In that case, I'd like to see how the buff doesn't buff the already powerful TPA/rows to even godlier tier while making enhance focus teams powerful :V because they obviously failed to do so the first time and everyone still sticks to rows while enjoying the tiny boost from stray orb enhance awakenings here and there.

I suspect stamina overflow is probably them finding out people aren't farming Tamadra coin dungeon/Extreme meta dragon as much as they expected because most people don't have 198 stam :V
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Post by: trancehime on December 03, 2014, 10:39:50 AM
Damnit gungho stop with these LS that restricts your member choice to like *only these few* It's not fun :V
And I don't see how x3.5 is worth it when there are easier to satisfy type-restrict LSes out there that are just as good.

Ars Nova is probably going to be a staple Attacker UVO Amaterasu sub if you ask me lol

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540108594058772480
Awoken Hades
D/G - Devil/Attacker (called it!)
Added awakenings: 2 TPA, Green Orb Enhance, Blind Resist
AS: Gravity World - 20% Gravity, add 5 seconds of extra orb matching time for 1 turn
LS: Increase Dark and Devils ATK by 2.5x, 50% damage resisted from Dark and Wood attrib

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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 03, 2014, 03:33:31 PM
Totally cool with stamina overflow! That is news I like seeing.

Also hah! I called it on the active skill. Though I expected to see it on Venus because CTW...
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Post by: Edible on December 03, 2014, 03:44:03 PM
... so this may be a silly question to ask, but how do you sort by "new" in the monster box?

I realized I've seen several people doing it but never figured out how to do it myself.  I suspect I'm missing something blindingly obvious.

Edit: Also, I like awoken hades but I'm sad that his active is changing.  My hades has ultra gravity almost max skilled, but I have a spare hades so I'm probably gonna make him awoken instead of the one I already have.

I really hope that means Venus won't be losing CTW...
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 03:46:13 PM
dat hera-is buff kinda puts some egypt 2.0s to shame. I mean the attack is still conditional, but dual hera is 2.25/9/2.25 vs Nut/Neph 1.82/9/1.82. Also her subs are really unrestricted with both god and devils being allowed. Some example stuff she can use are Blue Valk, Skuld, Muse, Starling, and Sarasvati. Sarasvati is especially nice because +orb awakenings work best with skyfalls.

Speaking of which, people are kind of underrating +orbs because they are forgetting that the 4% boost is on top of the damage bonus that +orbs already give. Basically if you have 5 +orb awakenings, all skyfall orbs are now + so matching 3 of any color gets a 1.18 * 1.2 = 1.416x boost. So effectively 5 +orb awakenings give a 41.6% damage boost to skyfall triplets.

But aren't rows stronger with 50% damage at 5 row awakenings? Well that's not really a fair comparison because you're using more orbs, and with more orbs +orbs get stronger too. If you're matching 6 +orbs then that's 1.36 * 1.2 = 1.632, so a 63.2% boost which is stronger than 5 rows! Of course the real strength of rows is when you stack multiple of them for ridiculous damage, but the real takeaway is +orb damage is far more consistent because you need orb changers for multi rows to be possible while +orbs will exist on every board except for the ones that you get really orbtrolled on.

And for the record their damage is also comparable with TPA. Lets say you have 6 TPA, 1 on every sub, so a TPA match gives you 50% extra damage. 6 +orbs awakenings would give you 1.24*1.24 = 1.5376 which is 53.76%. So it's stronger than TPA as well! Again of course you can stack TPA, but even then the damage isn't too far off. With 2 TPA on every sub you get %25% extra damage. 12 +orb awakenings gives you 1.24*1.48 = 1.8352, which is 83.52%. Still not bad, especially when you consider the fact that there's pretty much no strings attached. No special orb conditionals, just a constant boost to every skyfall orb of that color.


also holy fucking shit we finally get chrono turtle are you fucking serious

YOU KNOW THIS AND TOP DROID WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE LIKE A YEAR AGO WHEN WE WERE STARVED FOR GOOD BLUE/GREEN PHYSICALS

... so this may be a silly question to ask, but how do you sort by "new" in the monster box?

I realized I've seen several people doing it but never figured out how to do it myself.  I suspect I'm missing something blindingly obvious.
holy shit how have you lived to this point....

it's sort by CHR

it's literally the second option in the sort list...
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Post by: Yukarin on December 03, 2014, 03:51:33 PM
uhh how does stamina overflow work?
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Post by: Edible on December 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM
holy shit how have you lived to this point....

it's sort by CHR

it's literally the second option in the sort list...

Man, what does CHR even mean? <_<

(I usually sort by ATT)

uhh how does stamina overflow work?

Let's say you have 100 max stamina

You're currently at 25 stamina and use a stone to refresh

Now you have 125 stamina.
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Post by: Yukarin on December 03, 2014, 03:54:44 PM
ooh

oh its also "chronological"
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Post by: Edible on December 03, 2014, 03:56:03 PM
oh its also "chronological"

...

......

..........

(https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/Smileys/default/emot-suicide.gif)
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 03, 2014, 04:47:17 PM
If stamina overflow works with rank ups, I cannot even begin to explain how utterly abusable that would be. I would be literally unstoppable at this point in time if that was allowed.
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 04:49:29 PM
Kanetsu mythical 0 stoned with Isis and random subs + ally Awoken Neptune

...man 2.5x attack is REALLY LOW but at least his leader skill trivializes the final fight

If stamina overflow works with rank ups, I cannot even begin to explain how utterly abusable that would be. I would be literally unstoppable at this point in time if that was allowed.
pretty sure it's stone only ie. please buy more stones
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 03, 2014, 05:08:05 PM
pretty sure it's stone only ie. please buy more stones

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. If it was allowed on rankup+stone, I already have a silly strat in my head where I could have up to a literal 2-3 overfilled bars of stamina that would take days to run out, and all I'd have to do is have a lot of money and one stone.

aka operation play pad forever made real to the max
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 03, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
Kanetsu mythical 0 stoned with Isis and random subs + ally Awoken Neptune

...man 2.5x attack is REALLY LOW but at least his leader skill trivializes the final fight

This is why I'm so interested in the Awoken Greco-Romans. They're the perfect combination of damage and survivability. Combine two and you've got near-Odin-tier defenses on choice elements. It's a stall strategy that doesn't require stupid high HP and pathetic damage. (6.25x is very passable; I mean Ronia teams do it all the time!)
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 03, 2014, 06:13:31 PM
Even better defense than Odin against those elements if you think about it, because it -doesn't turn off because your HP is not full-

Some reeeeealllly nice stuff there.  I will hope to get a greco roman eventually just FOR that sort of thing.
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Post by: Espadas on December 03, 2014, 07:05:32 PM
In the last 24 hours i've utterly wasted 270 stamina between Challenge lv6 and Kanetsugu mythical....
So happy right now.....

i'm kinda fed up with attempting dungeons and risking an OHKO almost every turn unless i play perfect and/or orb troll goes for an holiday.... until my teams are full 99 and at least somewhat skilled-up mythical/restricted can go die in a dump....
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 07:09:48 PM
lol i 0 stoned mythical kane only to die to legend because i thought it would be trivial durr


also what's up with Okuni getting a 1.5x active buff but Bastet is still 1.15x? I know dual max skilled Bastet basically gets a 15% boost all the time, but having a damage boost on top of a delay on 8 turns is good for Okuni as a leader or sub.


oh yeah the stamina overlap thing basically completely solves my tamadra village over stam problem huh

the real question though is how many months until we get it...


also I just realized Hera-Is HP/RCV buff is to devil only goddammit
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Post by: Chaore on December 03, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Ars Nova is probably going to be a staple Attacker UVO Amaterasu sub if you ask me lol

she's pretty good tbh

however she lacks prongs, so overall most of ama's recent subs kinda benchpress her to pieces, and her actual orb generation is low besides the enhance (which, technically, athena gives)

i'd use her where flash or supes is if you didn't roll them atm

also what's up with Okuni getting a 1.5x active buff but Bastet is still 1.15x? I know dual max skilled Bastet basically gets a 15% boost all the time, but having a damage boost on top of a delay on 8 turns is good for Okuni as a leader or sub.

it's 1 turn basically

it's like how norse's actives are only 1.5x but they're 3 turns so it's totally cool right guys
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Post by: Edible on December 03, 2014, 07:19:56 PM
lol i 0 stoned mythical kane only to die to legend because i thought it would be trivial durr

Kanetsugu is pretty poorly tune.  I barely noticed a difference between mythical and legendary difficulties.


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also what's up with Okuni getting a 1.5x active buff but Bastet is still 1.15x? I know dual max skilled Bastet basically gets a 15% boost all the time, but having a damage boost on top of a delay on 8 turns is good for Okuni as a leader or sub.

Frankly I'm okay with Okuni getting a bone thrown his way, he's had to live so long without one


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oh yeah the stamina overlap thing basically completely solves my tamadra village over stam problem huh

Haha, it really does :V
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
oh wow Kanetsugu drops luci skillups fully evolved

so that's what this dungeon is for


...dammit no skill up
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Post by: Edible on December 03, 2014, 07:24:55 PM
oh wow Kanetsugu drops luci skillups fully evolved

so that's what this dungeon is for

And Thumbelina!

... wow, actually, come to think of it

Max skill thumbelina is pretty legit.

Maybe I should skill her up.
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 07:28:22 PM
i just had a random thought

what if someone had a max skilled hera-is, UEVOed her, then unUEVOed her back. Would she still be maxed skilled?
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 03, 2014, 07:37:39 PM
i just had a random thought

what if someone had a max skilled hera-is, UEVOed her, then unUEVOed her back. Would she still be maxed skilled?
I would imagine probably.  I mean, if they keep track of Awakenings you've yet to unlock(so like if I fed a TAMA to my un ultd Sonia, she would already have the time boost when I did.) then I see no reason why skill levels would not work the same,
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 03, 2014, 07:39:36 PM
i just had a random thought

what if someone had a max skilled hera-is, UEVOed her, then unUEVOed her back. Would she still be maxed skilled?

I would say "probably not", but when you consider that awakening levels are kept track of even after you have maxxed your monster... it's a thought, at least.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 03, 2014, 10:05:15 PM
So I recommend that anyone that got a High Dark Ninja from Kanetsugu keep at least one of them.

(http://i.imgur.com/ciDygXG.png) (http://i.imgur.com/VVBUL9y.png)

the quest to stockpile stones continues
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 10:07:32 PM
nananananananan-i dont have batman

although I guess he could still work in red chaser sorta
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 03, 2014, 10:09:45 PM
MS basically lets you skip the entire worry of having to deal with Hrungnir's homing ice block bullets and outright destroy him, which means you only have to deal with survivable-tier damage.

You can also take out about 90% of Grendel's HP with it too if he's an issue.
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Post by: commandercool on December 03, 2014, 10:43:53 PM
And Thumbelina!

... wow, actually, come to think of it

Max skill thumbelina is pretty legit.

Maybe I should skill her up.

That was the thought I had after getting ten million Mid Wood Ninjas from the chaser dungeon. Then I saw their evo requirements. Ha ha no. If I had to go through that mess to skill up my main leader or even an essential sub I would consider it, but not in a million years for an okay monster I might never use. If they drop fully evolved from Kanetsugu though, fair enough though. I don't really have an acceptable rainbow team so I haven't even looked at it.
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Post by: Suikama on December 03, 2014, 11:27:15 PM
MS basically lets you skip the entire worry of having to deal with Hrungnir's homing ice block bullets and outright destroy him, which means you only have to deal with survivable-tier damage.

You can also take out about 90% of Grendel's HP with it too if he's an issue.
That attack is already not a problem because a flame chaser fire team just one hits him once he becomes green.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 03, 2014, 11:55:12 PM
Oh right.

You'd think that more water enemies would be in an ice dungeon but I guess not.
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 01:50:06 AM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/540320582235979777

I don't have a Ronia or a Lu Bu. But I do have Disco Hera.

:getdown:

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540381309680373760

Adventurers will now also activate their Leader Skill in the next update, whether you have them in your list or not.
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Post by: Thaws on December 04, 2014, 06:05:27 AM
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/540320582235979777

I don't have a Ronia or a Lu Bu. But I do have Disco Hera.

:getdown:

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/540381309680373760

Adventurers will now also activate their Leader Skill in the next update, whether you have them in your list or not.

Congrats!

Usable Adventurers! that's really nice, not needing to go do a simple dungeon just to add that adventurer you stumble upon.
Still hoping they'd do something about friend system so you can actually play more kinds of teams though. Even 2 slots is not enough... I added many I&I friends but only two are putting them up on a daily basis. == I'm lucky to have a 297 Ra friend that's not deleting me even though I'm not putting him up anymore, this allows me to play Ra team when I want to, but trying to play other teams are pretty impossible unless someone I know IRL has that team leader as well so I can ask them.
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 06:09:50 AM
I'm lucky to have a 297 Ra friend that's not deleting me even though I'm not putting him up anymore, this allows me to play Ra team when I want to, but trying to play other teams are pretty impossible unless someone I know IRL has that team leader as well so I can ask them.

WTB> UVO DMeta friends
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Post by: Thaws on December 04, 2014, 06:51:52 AM
WTB> UVO DMeta friends

WTB?

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141204_newmonster.html
Only Arsnova and Goetia coming to gacha this Sunday? What's going on?
Could it be that Almadel is a descent monster? (There's likely a type-restrict descent after Zhao Yun and before Dec. livestream?)

Why is RO collab being revived in JP next week but not Poring Tower. orz
All my alt. colours valkyries are waiting to be skilled up.
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 06:58:54 AM
WTB?


willing to buy

i need UVO DMeta friends :(
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 04, 2014, 07:03:25 AM
WTB?
Someone here hasn't play much online games that has an economy.


Anyways, since I got Minerva. The only ingredient I'm missing is Zeus Vulcan...now how do I get it? Well, I still need more REM monsters that's how!

Also, is it good that Awoken Minerva lost her God type?
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Post by: Thaws on December 04, 2014, 07:10:43 AM
willing to buy

i need UVO DMeta friends :(

You might find me putting UVO DMeta out on Fridays to farm Twinlits. :V

Someone here hasn't play much online games that has an economy.


Anyways, since I got Minerva. The only ingredient I'm missing is Zeus Vulcan...now how do I get it? Well, I still need more REM monsters that's how!

Also, is it good that Awoken Minerva lost her God type?

Not familiar with the abbreviation WTB but the main reason I was confused is I was thinking trance's saying something's better (>) than DMeta :V then I'm scratching my head thinking what mon does WTB stand for.

I don't think Minerva losing her god type affects anything at all lol
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 08:04:00 AM
Also, is it good that Awoken Minerva lost her God type?

minerva was literally garbage-tier god until she got her awoken evolution, where she's now one of the strongest mono-fire leaders in the game

good guy gungho
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Post by: Thaws on December 04, 2014, 10:31:56 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vQz3tP6.png)

Yesss finally! 10 skill ups took forever. Took me over a year :V
Done half through wafflemans+kaguya and half via saint seiya.
Just got a 5 up 3 to finish off. woot.

Now I'm less motivated to keep doing Seiya for Hermes skill ups :|
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 01:10:50 PM
For Japan, coinciding with the release of Goetia and Ars Nova, the sticker girls will now become a part of the normal REM starting from 1200PM JST.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 04, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
For Japan, coinciding with the release of Goetia and Ars Nova, the sticker girls will now become a part of the normal REM starting from 1200PM JST.
Makes you sad not rolling the Sticker REM even once.
Makes you more sad that it'll now be flooding the normal REM too, meaning more less-than-trash non-God monsters.
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 01:25:39 PM
Makes you sad not rolling the Sticker REM even once.
Makes you more sad that it'll now be flooding the normal REM too, meaning more less-than-trash non-God monsters.

1. Magicians
2. Armored Knights
3. Magic Book
now integrating sticker girls.

4 batches of monsters integrated into the normal REM within the span of 2 months. "Flooding" happened with the armored knights batch :V
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Post by: commandercool on December 04, 2014, 01:36:01 PM
Just did another two stamina bars' worth of Blade Of Justice. Split the runs between Master and Expert.

Expert got me three knights, two of them from trash waves.

Master got me, yet again, zero knights. I don't believe I have ever seen a knight drop from Blade Of Justice Master (out of, I think, nine runs?). I'm drowning in Divine Gold Masks now, but nothing much else.

And I finally got a skillup on Verche, so he's like 1/17 now. I'll take it. I wasn't expecting to be able to come close to skillmaxing Meimei off of only one week of Arboreal Encounter, but at this rate it looks like I might have a chance to do it, so I guess my farming isn't going that badly considering. I'm a little worried that when the next event rolls around it's going to load all of the things I want onto Saturday and Sunday again, which are again already packed between gold farming and 2x drops for Arboreal Encounter, but I could use a weekend dungeon gold boost.
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
oh yeah I completely missed the "less-than-trash" qualifier, and like
 
u wot m8?

Arcline is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> King Shynee
Muse has the best God enhance in the entire game
Delgado is a better stat alternative of Woodsie
Nym is an Attacker enhance with a not-shitty RCV stat
Creuset is bulky in general and can do alright in the event you don't have Gravis

magicians:
Rei Sirius = god/healer TPA monster, he has 2 TPA alongside his Healer buddies LKali and LZL
Chester = Gravity Room is stupid good utility
Wee Jas = on-demand bind recovery with his active OR a free row if you have heartbreakers WITH a 1 turn delay
Lila / Sharon / Liza / Dill Sirius = Very strong orb-generating subs of their color

magic book:
Goetia has a decent sub pool, Ars Nova in general just has a strong attack and if you do a R/L focus you can't go too wrong with her as a lead.

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Post by: commandercool on December 04, 2014, 01:49:13 PM
oh yeah I completely missed the "less-than-trash" qualifier, and like
 
u wot m8?

Arcline is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> King Shynee
Muse has the best God enhance in the entire game
Delgado is a better stat alternative of Woodsie
Nym is an Attacker enhance with a not-shitty RCV stat
Creuset is bulky in general and can do alright in the event you don't have Gravis

magicians:
Rei Sirius = god/healer TPA monster, he has 2 TPA alongside his Healer buddies LKali and LZL
Chester = Gravity Room is stupid good utility
Wee Jas = on-demand bind recovery with his active OR a free row if you have heartbreakers WITH a 1 turn delay
Lila / Sharon / Liza / Dill Sirius = Very strong orb-generating subs of their color

magic book:
Goetia has a decent sub pool, Ars Nova in general just has a strong attack and if you do a R/L focus you can't go too wrong with her as a lead.

I'll even throw in some support for the Sticker Girls. Four of the of the five of them have niches (not sure what Kurone is for, although maybe she has one and I don't know about it). Fuu is especially notable as being one of the few light row attackers, making her a great Thor sub. And I've been more than satisfied with Ruuka, who has a place on my team over some applicable gods.
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Post by: Edible on December 04, 2014, 02:53:43 PM
Kurone is for filling a dark slot in a rainbow healer team.  :V
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 02:59:33 PM
Kurone is for filling a dark slot in a rainbow healer team.  :V

I already have Lilith for that. OTL

also

1/17 in Echidna skillups. Am I lucky or what?! :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: Edible on December 04, 2014, 03:01:02 PM
I already have Lilith for that. OTL

D/D lilith instead of D/L lilith?  FOR SHAME, TRANCE


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1/17 in Echidna skillups. Am I lucky or what?! :colonveeplusalpha:

As terrifying as it may sound, I think that's about normal
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Post by: trancehime on December 04, 2014, 03:06:06 PM
D/D lilith instead of D/L lilith?  FOR SHAME, TRANCE

I went D/D Lilith because Lilith was my tutorial REM roll, Edible. :v
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 04, 2014, 03:48:18 PM
Kurone works on BATMANNNNN

D/D lilith instead of D/L lilith?  FOR SHAME, TRANCE

Only scrubs have to choose. Get both
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Post by: Espadas on December 04, 2014, 04:24:29 PM
Ok, that's it. I'm not allowed to get angry or rant about this game anymore. It would be pointless, because there is nothing that could be more F**ING STUPID AND RAGE-INDUCING than what just happened....

Finally decided to take on Cave of Dreaming. Team: Awoken Hera-Ur / normal evo Ronia / Gigas / KBaddie / DQ Hera / uevo Ronia hypermaxed

Cleared floors 1 and 2 without a problem, mass attack on floor 3 and i start stalling on the remaining baby tama.

I'll come clear right away: THE BABY TAMADRA MADE ME LOSE.
6 rounds back-to-back of Pure Smile...... ALL SIX ON THE 2 RONIAS!

In the end obviously i didn't have anymore orbs available to stall and killed it. Next stage i still had the friend Ronia bound and got killed in 2 shots.

I'll spare you what i exactly said to that tama, i would be immediately banned.....
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 04, 2014, 04:27:01 PM
You don't have to match orbs to wear out bindings.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 04, 2014, 04:43:06 PM
You don't have to match orbs to wear out bindings.
You don't?  Huh, good to know.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 04, 2014, 04:54:58 PM
Case in point. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tn3_zmwvbY#t=3m30s)
Naturally, a bind healer is usually better than hoping that it doesn't target the same person five times in a row. Bind immune peeps are also a wonderful to have.

It also lets you set up a board with impunity, for the most part.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 04, 2014, 05:36:44 PM

I'll come clear right away: THE BABY TAMADRA MADE ME LOSE.
6 rounds back-to-back of Pure Smile...... ALL SIX ON THE 2 RONIAS!

u lost bcuz ronia suxxxx

For real though, you can make debuff turns pass using "null" matches.  Insanely important skill to know for certain dungeons.
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Post by: Espadas on December 04, 2014, 05:39:07 PM
Didn't know that you don't need to match for binds... my only bind resist monster is Godin, which is both totally out of color and too costly to field  :V

I'm going to try Echidna for Gigas, worst case i'll use Menace to force the little bast... to let me bind recover
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 04, 2014, 06:03:05 PM
I highly advise against using Echidna on the baby tama unless you think you can take out the green fruit in two shots.
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Post by: Thaws on December 04, 2014, 06:51:36 PM
For Japan, coinciding with the release of Goetia and Ars Nova, the sticker girls will now become a part of the normal REM starting from 1200PM JST.

I don't know what to feel when I'll inevitably have my box filled with Ruka from silver eggs during godfeses pulls and think of how I needed 9 rolls in total to get one from the Pink REM... orz
What will happen to Pink REM and Wetatron now? :S
and they really need to release muracore-like carnivals more often now with this sudden flood of non-god series.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 04, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
My guess is that the Pink REM will be a cycling REM for girl cards from here, then. Kinda like how there's a different god in there every time, but still always a girl.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 04, 2014, 07:01:23 PM
and they really need to release muracore-like carnivals more often now with this sudden flood of non-god series.

They have been doing this like crazy over here in NA lately.  We're in a lull right now, but it can get crazy again with the drop of a hat.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 04, 2014, 07:45:49 PM
As terrifying as it may sound, I think that's about normal

I'm just gonna stand back with my max skilled echidna that took less than 10 feeds. :V
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Post by: Edible on December 04, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
I'm just gonna stand back with my max skilled echidna that took less than 10 feeds. :V

2013 Edible's peas are really steamed at you right now.

2014 Edible is just really sad and wishes he could drink at work. ;_;
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 04, 2014, 08:21:19 PM
2013 Edible's peas are really steamed at you right now.

2014 Edible is just really sad and wishes he could drink at work. ;_;

If it makes you feel any better, my Horus is currently at 1/31 skillups.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 04, 2014, 09:27:54 PM
If it makes you feel any better, my Horus is currently at 1/31 skillups.


Does anyone even use Horus for his active skill?
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Post by: Suikama on December 04, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
It also took me a ridiculous number of feeds to skill up my main Echidna.

Then later when I decided to skill up a naga just for fun/s-ranks it took like 10 feeds >_>
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 04, 2014, 09:54:20 PM
Does anyone even use Horus for his active skill?

When you also run a monored that relies on full red boards, his active skill becomes Actually Important™!

Especially when you consider that at 1 skillup he's 1 turn short of syncing up with my Uriel, which is a really big deal ):
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Post by: Edible on December 04, 2014, 10:00:29 PM
... so what you're saying is he needs two skillups, as opposed to being max skill :V
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 04, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
... so what you're saying is he needs two skillups, as opposed to being max skill :V

And I can't get even that! That's how horrible it is!

(And the amount of skillups I need increases as I get skillups with Uriel too so...)
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 04, 2014, 10:16:56 PM
Can't you get both Horus and Uriel skill ups simultaneously with Mystic Fire Dragon?
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Post by: commandercool on December 04, 2014, 10:42:18 PM
You don't have to match orbs to wear out bindings.

I did not know that. Is there anything else that doesn't rely on orb matching? Does poison damage?
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 04, 2014, 10:47:40 PM
I did not know that. Is there anything else that doesn't rely on orb matching? Does poison damage?

Yes. I frequently use this strat on Twinlits to carry over manual CtW.

The ONLY things that do not tick to my knowledge unless you make at least one match, are auto-recovery resources and skill charging. Everything else will progress as normal.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 04, 2014, 11:24:18 PM
Poison damage definitely works even in non-matches. I believe there's actually a strategy to gimp one of Karin's appearances where she ubernukes you if you have any heart orbs on the field.

If you poison her and heartbreak, she can't actually kill you. Normally, there would be a chance of hearts falling in a cascade, but you could just not match anything.

Even more relevant is the 99 skill bind in the Wednesday dungeon, particularly for Godin/Ammy where the wave 3 masks only attack once per six turns.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 04, 2014, 11:25:53 PM
Poison damage definitely works even in non-matches. I believe there's actually a strategy to gimp one of Karin's appearances where she ubernukes you if you have any heart orbs on the field.

If you poison her and heartbreak, she can't actually kill you. Normally, there would be a chance of hearts falling in a cascade, but you could just not match anything.
Until she makes more hearts when your heartbreakers are all spent, which would happen quickly.  The move right before the ubernuke is a heartmaker attack specifically to fuel the finisher.

You're referrig to the appearance she makes in Guan Yingping's dungeon (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=909), yes?
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 04, 2014, 11:28:15 PM
Until she makes more hearts when your heartbreakers are all spent, which would happen quickly.  The move right before the ubernuke is a heartmaker attack specifically to fuel the finisher.
I thought she enters a loop of skipping her turn repeatedly because there aren't any heart orbs?
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 04, 2014, 11:30:18 PM
I thought she enters a loop of skipping her turn repeatedly because there aren't any heart orbs?
She does?  Weird, I'd think they'd have jus had her reset to either the first or second move in her cycle.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 04, 2014, 11:44:52 PM
There's conflicting information on both sides, according to a lot of people she just pops the heartmaker move then Garyou Tensei for flowerbeam levels of damage, but according to trance (I believe) she actually cycles between both moves.

I guess we'll be able to confirm that once Guan Yinping becomes a thing in NA.

Can't you get both Horus and Uriel skill ups simultaneously with Mystic Fire Dragon?

Indeed you can - that was actually how I got the only skillup my Horus has -  the problem is Phoenix is an invade with invade-levels of rarity, and I need more skillups for Horus than I need for Uriel.

Though maybe I'll spend some time on mystic fire dragon farming for phoenixses and minotaurs.
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Post by: Suikama on December 04, 2014, 11:50:06 PM
oh shit got a bubpy

man farming pys feels way better than other methods of farming skillups, especially since even if you don't get any pys you still get a ton of exp for both you and your monsters
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Post by: Edible on December 04, 2014, 11:54:56 PM
I just checked.

She does her preemptive, then skips a turn, then her 11k hit, then her 8k + heartmake hit, then she attempts garyou tensei.  If there's hearts on the board, you take 400k to the face.  If there's no hearts on the board, she skips a turn.  She'll continue skipping a turn until there are hearts on the board, at which point you take 400k to the face.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 05, 2014, 12:02:20 AM
oh shit got a bubpy

man farming pys feels way better than other methods of farming skillups, especially since even if you don't get any pys you still get a ton of exp for both you and your monsters

Yeah, I've gotten so many guys to level 99 lately and gotten so many ranks/plus eggs off this that it's just flat-out ridiculous.
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Post by: Suikama on December 05, 2014, 12:12:22 AM
I just checked.

She does her preemptive, then skips a turn, then her 11k hit, then her 8k + heartmake hit, then she attempts garyou tensei.  If there's hearts on the board, you take 400k to the face.  If there's no hearts on the board, she skips a turn.  She'll continue skipping a turn until there are hearts on the board, at which point you take 400k to the face.
Garyou... huh?
Garyou... huh?
Garyou... huh?
Garyou... huh?

Karin sure is a persistent one :V
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Post by: Thaws on December 05, 2014, 12:27:26 AM
Actually B/G Karin is also in JP's 3rd challenge dungeon lv9
And I read a clear report with Minerva red team which cleared that wave with Heartbreaker+Rodin, using the strategy of doing no matches, was a very interesting read :V

Yeah, I've gotten so many guys to level 99 lately and gotten so many ranks/plus eggs off this that it's just flat-out ridiculous.

And you haven't even gotten the pendra update.
I was farming Light Insect dungeon for skillups, got like 15 Light Pendras, farmed some dragon seeds and my freshly pulled LKali went to lv50 ready for evolve immediately.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 05, 2014, 12:52:30 AM
I just checked.

She does her preemptive, then skips a turn, then her 11k hit, then her 8k + heartmake hit, then she attempts garyou tensei.  If there's hearts on the board, you take 400k to the face.  If there's no hearts on the board, she skips a turn.  She'll continue skipping a turn until there are hearts on the board, at which point you take 400k to the face.
That's actually rather depressing.  Part of me wants it to stay in for rewarding peoples' creativity, but part of me wants it "fixed" since it feels sorta bleh that you can wipe her out so easily.

At the same time, I wonder if that's how you're SUPPOSED to beat her?  Or is it INTENDED for you to KO her in those few turns normally?
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 05, 2014, 01:06:05 AM
And you haven't even gotten the pendra update.
I was farming Light Insect dungeon for skillups, got like 15 Light Pendras, farmed some dragon seeds and my freshly pulled LKali went to lv50 ready for evolve immediately.

Thankfully it doesn't affect me too hard at this time since this rotation and the next will be No Dupe stuff, meaning no max-level pengdra drops for at least a month.

Relatedly wow inferno hades in alt saint deep is laughably fucking easy compared to the mess I've had to deal with. If I ever die in this place I will cry.
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Post by: Thaws on December 05, 2014, 01:39:51 AM
That's actually rather depressing.  Part of me wants it to stay in for rewarding peoples' creativity, but part of me wants it "fixed" since it feels sorta bleh that you can wipe her out so easily.

At the same time, I wonder if that's how you're SUPPOSED to beat her?  Or is it INTENDED for you to KO her in those few turns normally?

You actually have to bring a poison in your team though, that's one active skill slot taken up. I see it as nothing different from trivializing high def low hp enemies on my Ra party really.
For Karin you also have to waste your heartbreaker skill too. And it takes forever hahahaha I think it was a really creative attack pattern tbh
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Post by: trancehime on December 05, 2014, 02:11:09 AM
Only scrubs have to choose. Get both

I have another Lilith which I'll raise to D/L but she's not a priority. Healer girls are not high on my list anymore aside from skill maxing Echidna, which appears to be an exercise in frustration.

For Karin you also have to waste your heartbreaker skill too. And it takes forever hahahaha I think it was a really creative attack pattern tbh

Yeah in my case I just burst her down the whole time after using Ecchi on her, since Guan Yinping isn't a ticking time bomb lol

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Post by: Thaws on December 05, 2014, 05:06:55 AM
THIS JUST IN
Solomon books and Gamble mage
Their active doesn't turn existing orb to their same colour again!!!
This means a board with 27 dark and 3 light, gamble mage/goetia will turn the 3 light to dark everytime!
They just went from garbage to legitly good.
Really nice as a safety net for 2-colour full board changes! Can't wait for similar skills for other colours!
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Post by: trancehime on December 05, 2014, 06:08:51 AM
http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141205_live.html

To the surprise of absolutely no one; Grimoire Descended - the other 3 book girls are descends.

JP Stream next Friday. We'll see any big big announcements then.
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Post by: Thaws on December 05, 2014, 06:12:54 AM
http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141205_live.html

To the surprise of absolutely no one; Grimoire Descended - the other 3 book girls are descends.

JP Stream next Friday. We'll see any big big announcements then.

 randomly 1 out of 3...
Which means skilling up would be annoying.
If they have the "randomly make 3 orbs" skill then I'd want to max skill them so badly but it'd be even more of a hassle than izanami pre-revamp :(
Randomly make 3 green orbs would pair perfectly with Avalondrake...
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 05, 2014, 07:00:41 AM
I figured today would be a good day to get my Ronia uvo materials because not much else is going on today.

So many blue trifruits.
So many green trifruits.
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Post by: trancehime on December 05, 2014, 07:39:58 AM
I figured today would be a good day to get my Ronia uvo materials because not much else is going on today.

So many blue trifruits.
So many green trifruits.

pls give me pls give me :qq:

EDIT:

We got a screenshot from the Grimoire Descended dungeon. If my eyes aren't deceived, Almadel appears to have a 999 turn shield that blocks Dark/Light or at least reduces its damage.

RIP
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Post by: Thaws on December 05, 2014, 09:43:52 AM
pls give me pls give me :qq:

EDIT:

We got a screenshot from the Grimoire Descended dungeon. If my eyes aren't deceived, Almadel appears to have a 999 turn shield that blocks Dark/Light or at least reduces its damage.

RIP

Much better than stupid absorb mechanics where even if you killed the boss it doesn't go to negatives, so that if your frd leader's sub-element is absorbed the boss will CERTAINLY not die and absorb that last bit of damage.
Bastet's dark sub-element has made many descents a hassle for my Bastet green team simply they made dark too powerful and put dark absorb in everything single descent, yet bastet isn't even getting advantage from its dark sub-element.
[/rant]
awoken G/G bastet when :qq: (at this rate of inflation I'd say we'd get it within 2015 :V )

srs mode: tri-colours have always suffered halved-damage from weaknesses/strength so light/dark shields are totally a welcome addition to at least attempt to balance this (Though there's probably better ways like reducing damage reduction for tri-colours, and reducing the bonus of hitting weakness for light/dark.). Assuming its halved damage, it probably isn't even going to affect powerhouse dark teams like Pandora where they usually deal excess damage anyways. lol
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Post by: trancehime on December 05, 2014, 09:57:59 AM
Reading someone's comment on the screenshot lead me to believe it's just 1 turn of completely nullifying Dark and Light damage.
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Post by: commandercool on December 05, 2014, 01:45:18 PM
PDX has super dragons listed for the urgent dungeons for tomorrow, but no event has been announced yet that I know of. Think there'll be one? I'm running out of space to contain my army of chasers, so free stones would be welcome. Or free Tamas I guess because even though they're less urgent I have a looooong way to go on getting my Athena team awoken.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 05, 2014, 01:52:27 PM
So apparently after this week we get the silver/blue/dood REM. It looks... pretty good? But I think I'll pass since everything in it will become available in the normal REM.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 05, 2014, 02:34:02 PM
Eh.   Deciding to be good and wait for like a 3 kingdoms fest or something.  I can use pretty much anybody in there I think except POSSIBLY Cao Cao, but even he would probably be useful.
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Post by: Suikama on December 05, 2014, 02:53:44 PM
and out of nowhere the top droid awakenings are finally here
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 05, 2014, 04:41:32 PM
and out of nowhere the top droid awakenings are finally here
They actually got announced on the most recent stream when Antonio tackled Kanetsugu.
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Post by: Suikama on December 05, 2014, 04:51:13 PM
i know

but its actually here i mean with no update
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 05, 2014, 07:23:48 PM
Finally got Zeus-Olympios today. Now to maxskill him yay
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 05, 2014, 08:00:19 PM
I just made Sanctuary Guardian, Archangel for my future Guan Yinping dungeon team. I didn't have any good maintype healers for leaders, so 4/4/1 will have to do...

See ya, two angelits.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 05, 2014, 11:39:59 PM
I could not have gotten this any more down to the wire if I tried. No dark orbs at all in the board and then skyfalled into 3 lined up dark orbs + 8 combo.  g fucking g and gimme my stone you poser

(http://i.imgur.com/raLXAGL.png)
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Post by: Suikama on December 06, 2014, 02:48:44 AM
farming dublits is one of the worst parts of this game, right under farming skillups

WHY ARE ALL OF THESE DARK DUBLITS DROPPING I NEED LIGHTS ONES FOR TAMADRAAAA
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Post by: Dr Rawr on December 06, 2014, 03:19:22 AM
Finally got draggie that little shit.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 06, 2014, 03:32:12 AM
Finally got draggie that little shit.
I remember him beating me up when I played him before way back when.  Was pretty terrible.
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Post by: Suikama on December 06, 2014, 03:39:43 AM
he's still pretty useless though

if you want to try then have fun skilling him up
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 06, 2014, 04:19:14 AM
But that delay is so useful for Gonia. How many dragons can both delay and enhance dragon damage?
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 06, 2014, 04:47:14 AM
If I had any of the Sonia sisters. I would cry. :qq:
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Post by: Dr Rawr on December 06, 2014, 05:22:12 AM
i dont have a gonia but i do have this awesome orochi
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Post by: trancehime on December 06, 2014, 06:09:18 AM
he's still pretty useless though

if you want to try then have fun skilling him up

he's still literally one of only two competent dragon enhances NA's got...
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Post by: Espadas on December 06, 2014, 12:59:22 PM
I looked at my rooster for a viable Zhang Fei team..... and despaired  :V
In the same vein, not gonna touch Draggie with a stick atm....

Question: i have a few of the Fey serie (Treant, Kelpie etc..). Should i:

- keep unevolved for S-Rank (although i don't think they would be much different from carbuncles)
- evolve and keep for low-score S-Rank
- evolve and use as skill-up for the uevo Ogres?
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Post by: commandercool on December 06, 2014, 01:58:53 PM
I've had a single drop from Arboreal Encounter Master in the last two days. I'm now 1/9 on it. Of course that's still mad anecdotal, but there is no goddamn way the drop rate in these is 40%.
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Post by: Edible on December 06, 2014, 03:15:07 PM
Zhang Fei get

Now to never do that dungeon again, ever
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 06, 2014, 03:15:30 PM
Question: i have a few of the Fey serie (Treant, Kelpie etc..). Should i:

- keep unevolved for S-Rank (although i don't think they would be much different from carbuncles)
- evolve and keep for low-score S-Rank
- evolve and use as skill-up for the uevo Ogres?

The only ones I've heard being viable are Will-o-wisps and Treants, but you can probably use Kelpie also for Karin subs during S-rank. I don't think anything beat the Feys as 1* for stats, for whatever little they give. I use wisps sometimes.

As for skillups, you can find Freeze Strike/Flame Strike/Rock Strike skillups easier by farming some of the biweeklies or some descends like Hera-Ur where the drop rate for the strike ogres is pretty high. The exception are Pixie and Werewolf, as I've never encountered a place where Jyaki or Shouki drop already evolved, so if for some reason you want to skill those two up, you have no other choice.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 06, 2014, 06:12:07 PM
This deserves a post on its own.

(http://i.imgur.com/xCBEfKh.png)

athena the best no objections
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 06, 2014, 06:17:08 PM
How many matches did you need to break their armor?
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 06, 2014, 06:25:23 PM
How many matches did you need to break their armor?

1 4line of light, 4+ combo needed, using Matsy's Athena because it was the only one that was level 99 with attack pluses. The pluses matter a lot here since 100k is just barely broken with them.

Zaerog just outright got oneshot by 7star.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 06, 2014, 06:34:12 PM
1 4line of light, 4+ combo needed, using Matsy's Athena because it was the only one that was level 99 with attack pluses. The pluses matter a lot here since 100k is just barely broken with them.

Zaerog just outright got oneshot by 7star.

So is that 1 4-light line with 3 other combos, or 4. I'm thinking of going for it myself at some point. Tried one but I got shrekt. Prior attempts with Kirin lead to undesirable boards, and I couldn't keep up with the onslaught, by which I mean they oneshotted me.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 06, 2014, 06:39:29 PM
So is that 1 4-light line with 3 other combos, or 4. I'm thinking of going for it myself at some point. Tried one but I got shrekt. Prior attempts with Kirin lead to undesirable boards, and I couldn't keep up with the onslaught, by which I mean they oneshotted me.

Yeah. The Athena builds on PDX use unskilled Meimeis, but coincidentally Athena lets you take a full wave of hits head-on to stall a bit. With proper damage calculation you can even single out a lone dragon (I did this on wave 3) and get even more turns off that, as well as recover all my health incase things got bad. It's a dungeon you really have to have specific setups for.

EDIT: 4 combos total.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 06, 2014, 06:46:11 PM
Yeah. The Athena builds on PDX use unskilled Meimeis, but coincidentally Athena lets you take a full wave of hits head-on to stall a bit. With proper damage calculation you can even single out a lone dragon (I did this on wave 3) and get even more turns off that, as well as recover all my health incase things got bad. It's a dungeon you really have to have specific setups for.

It seems a lot more doable now that I know I don't need 8-9 combos to do stuff if I can only make one pair.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 06, 2014, 06:49:49 PM
The final burst did utilize an 8-combo, but Zaerog will not immediately attack you. You can do 2 million damage each turn over 2 turns in the worst-case scenario, which is not hard with Athena at all.
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Post by: Yukarin on December 06, 2014, 07:04:55 PM
okay wtf

blue sonia's stats

4k hp and she's only level 65
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Post by: Chaore on December 06, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
okay wtf

blue sonia's stats

4k hp and she's only level 65

yeahp

blonia is essentially the logical extreme of physical typing

it's glorious, i want twelve.
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Post by: Edible on December 06, 2014, 08:17:30 PM
Blonia and Bodin, best briends borever
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 06, 2014, 08:19:09 PM
So uhh
How exactly does the silver REM work?
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Post by: Edible on December 06, 2014, 08:20:10 PM
So uhh
How exactly does the silver REM work?

It's like the pink REM, you get one of whatever they've listed.
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Post by: Chaore on December 06, 2014, 08:23:18 PM
It's like the pink REM, you get one of whatever they've listed.

All of the stuff is in the REM, notably.

So this is basically taking a bunch of crap (Mystic Knights, Healer girls, bad dagons, etc.) out of the way of these rolls.

It's pretty great imo.
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Post by: Edible on December 06, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Yeah, you have a good chance of getting something solid, and a lower chance of getting a dupe like the pink rem.

I can use a number of things out of here so I'll probably roll several times.  We'll see!
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Post by: Chaore on December 06, 2014, 08:40:40 PM
Yeah, you have a good chance of getting something solid, and a lower chance of getting a dupe like the pink rem.

I can use a number of things out of here so I'll probably roll several times.  We'll see!

If they turn the pink rem into something similar, fuck godfests for life, waifu gacha life
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Post by: Suikama on December 06, 2014, 08:59:26 PM
Bluh still no knights while the japanese dude rem had them
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 06, 2014, 09:43:54 PM
Tennin needs an ult where she's immune to binds. It's depressing having a bind remover that gets bound.
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Post by: Suikama on December 06, 2014, 09:54:52 PM
i just got a woodpy

these things just dont seem that rare

which is great
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Post by: trancehime on December 07, 2014, 01:24:33 AM
okay wtf

blue sonia's stats

4k hp and she's only level 65

she has 5000 by level max lel

Bluh still no knights while the japanese dude rem had them

To be fair the dood rem only had 3 of them. The 3 that are doods. :derp:
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Post by: Suikama on December 07, 2014, 01:34:02 AM
I only need the blue one anyways
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 07, 2014, 05:45:11 AM
Blonia best Sonia...and I don't have any Sonias. :qq:

Guess I'll go Stone hunting like Chirei.
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Post by: trancehime on December 07, 2014, 09:16:54 AM
While Gronia's not my top priority now, I'd like some advice on some non-JP-exclusive subs for a Gronia team to look out for.

What I've got:
ADK
Generate Earth Dragon (0 rows)
Fortoytops (0 rows)
Tiamat (dark rows only)

??? Draggie? DZombie?
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Post by: Espadas on December 07, 2014, 09:18:27 AM
Silver REM's rooster is out!

AFWSXYZFDS please tell me it will stay for 2 weeks! I want to roll it so bad but i'm unable to recharge my card for at least one week!  :colonveeplusalpha:


Edit: MFW a guy in my friend list who has always put Godin as leader suddenly bust out a max level Uevo Dmeta....
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 07, 2014, 09:36:37 AM
While Gronia's not my top priority now, I'd like some advice on some non-JP-exclusive subs for a Gronia team to look out for.

What I've got:
ADK
Generate Earth Dragon (0 rows)
Fortoytops (0 rows)
Tiamat (dark rows only)

??? Draggie? DZombie?

Mentioning Gronia without Canopus? That guy has huge stats with good Gonia awoken skills.
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Post by: trancehime on December 07, 2014, 10:04:19 AM
Mentioning Gronia without Canopus? That guy has huge stats with good Gonia awoken skills.

oh right god canopener. plus he's accessible too once i can do mechdragons.
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Post by: Espadas on December 07, 2014, 10:13:18 AM
oh right god canopener.

I laughed way too much at this  :D I already have the mats ready for both canopener and radar i just miss a little detail.... friggin gold keepers  :fail:
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 07, 2014, 12:05:22 PM
Is Arboreal Encounter on x2?
PDX said it is; In-game it doesn't show x2.
Want to keep hunting Chasers for my Genbu atleast, before this ends.

If it's on x2, I'll do Expert instead of Master.
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Post by: commandercool on December 07, 2014, 04:01:45 PM
Is Arboreal Encounter on x2?
PDX said it is; In-game it doesn't show x2.
Want to keep hunting Chasers for my Genbu atleast, before this ends.

If it's on x2, I'll do Expert instead of Master.

I was going to ask the same thing. I came into it with full stamina at 3AM last night and it certainly didn't seem to be based on the drops I got, but it's listed as having double drops all day on the in-game list of events. It's kind of shitty if they just skipped a day of 2x, since I timed out my experience and stamina fot farming by basically skipping all of yesterday.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 07, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
I was going to ask the same thing. I came into it with full stamina at 3AM last night and it certainly didn't seem to be based on the drops I got, but it's listed as having double drops all day on the in-game list of events. It's kind of shitty if they just skipped a day of 2x, since I timed out my experience and stamina fot farming by basically skipping all of yesterday.
I just did one on Master. Didn't even drop. Obviously not on x2.

Might as well do something else than waste my Stamina on this again...Did this 6x yesterday and no drop.
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Post by: commandercool on December 07, 2014, 04:15:17 PM
Well, hopefully we get an extended day of double drops at the very least to compensate. I'd kind of like some stones too to make up for the mountain of stamina I wasted waiting setting up for farming and then farming with the droprate off, but whatever...
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Post by: Suikama on December 07, 2014, 05:00:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CoZIAyR.png)(http://i.imgur.com/YzDd2Ap.png)

ZEUS MERCURY 0 STONED FIRST TRY

ISIS >>> KIRIN FOREVER
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Post by: Espadas on December 07, 2014, 05:21:17 PM
Woah, grats Suikama!

And lol at Doomsday's charming smile being the only visible one in the screenshot  :D
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 07, 2014, 06:20:32 PM
Daaaaarn, that's some insanity right there.
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Post by: Espadas on December 07, 2014, 06:36:35 PM
I just noticed a small detail in that screenshot of your: the number of stones.....

Brb, hacking into Sui's account right now!  :o
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Post by: Suikama on December 07, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
yeah im saving up for when knights and egypt 2.0 finally show up

until then im not spend any of these
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Post by: Thaws on December 07, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CoZIAyR.png)(http://i.imgur.com/YzDd2Ap.png)

ZEUS MERCURY 0 STONED FIRST TRY

ISIS >>> KIRIN FOREVER


Good job!
This descent really flavours blue teams haha.

Edit: I just noticed how REM-free your team is  :o everything except Isis can be acquired from dungeons. Whooooaaa that's amazing.

On the other hand, I'm a madman that tried doing zeus mercury for jewels, encounter kirin on first try on 8th floor (replacing the annoying Neptune! wahahaha) and somehow proceeded to no-stone it. woot.
but I'm out of rainbow keepers to ultimate uevo my blue valk :colonveeplusalpha: Am I the only one that never seems to have enough rainbow keeper because you have to go out of your way to get them, while mythdublits and mask you kind of get a lot as you farm twinlits/ancientMasks for skill ups. :V
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 07, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
Evo Materials Unite is actually really convenient for getting Rainbow Keepers, because you also get a shot at getting... everything else, too, while you're at it.

Also being able to run it any day of the week is a big boon.

Question. Is there any particular difference in China girl invade rates between Goemon and Beelzebub?
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Post by: Suikama on December 07, 2014, 08:09:42 PM
i dont know, but tomorrow is monday with x5 technicals so it might be a better idea to farm +eggs since these dont come around that often
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Post by: commandercool on December 07, 2014, 08:12:50 PM
God dammit, I got sick of sitting on full stamina waiting for Wind Chasers to come back so I bought Sword Of Justice, and as soon as I paged over to it I saw that the 2x droprates were finally up. FUUUUCK.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 07, 2014, 08:19:14 PM
i dont know, but tomorrow is monday with x5 technicals so it might be a better idea to farm +eggs since these dont come around that often

It is because of things like this that I never actually get my goals in PAD done.
Red Jewels only appear on such easy descends so frequently. Takeminakata and Goemon are basically giveaways!
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 07, 2014, 08:39:07 PM
Am I the only one that never seems to have enough rainbow keeper because you have to go out of your way to get them, while mythdublits and mask you kind of get a lot as you farm twinlits/ancientMasks for skill ups. :V

I'm out of RKs here also. I did actually have 4 at the beginning of this week but I just kinda blew through evolving everyone and now I'm out of like everything >>
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Post by: Thaws on December 07, 2014, 09:17:26 PM
Evo Materials Unite is actually really convenient for getting Rainbow Keepers, because you also get a shot at getting... everything else, too, while you're at it.

Also being able to run it any day of the week is a big boon.

Tuesday's coming soon but it's not 2x drop on JP and I just levelled so I decided to spend an full stamina bar on this.
3 million is pretty costly but it seems to have an increased droprate from its guerilla version?
4/5 runs had rainbow keeper dropped (I'm guessing I was just lucky?), and all other waves always dropped something.
That was pretty awesome.

(http://i.imgur.com/G0OiIiS.png)(http://i.imgur.com/MIB5WAb.png)
*shows off*  :* :* :* :*
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Post by: commandercool on December 07, 2014, 09:53:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/G0OiIiS.png)(http://i.imgur.com/MIB5WAb.png)
*shows off*  :* :* :* :*

But... I want that. Give me that.

Operation Get Orbs is not looking great for the immediate future. My highest priority right now is a blue orb and the only dungeons dropping them are Hercules, which may be actually the hardest dungeon in the game for my current team just based on how it works, and Kanetsugu, which I can't even enter with my team and I don't really have an alternative for. The green orb and extra white orb I need should be easy to get from Goddess Descended and Hera-Is though, since both of those are extremely safe for me as far as I know. But that damn blue one remains elusive.

And I was hoping Athena would be around just so I could get some skillups for mine, but she still isn't back. Is she rarer than the other descends or something? It seems like we've had most or all of these twice since the last Athena unless I missed it.
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Post by: Dorakyura on December 07, 2014, 10:08:02 PM
After difficulties to get the game installed (fuck Europe), this game is really fun

my id 377,945,395
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Post by: Thaws on December 07, 2014, 10:09:29 PM
But... I want that. Give me that.

Operation Get Orbs is not looking great for the immediate future. My highest priority right now is a blue orb and the only dungeons dropping them are Hercules, which may be actually the hardest dungeon in the game for my current team just based on how it works, and Kanetsugu, which I can't even enter with my team and I don't really have an alternative for. The green orb and extra white orb I need should be easy to get from Goddess Descended and Hera-Is though, since both of those are extremely safe for me as far as I know. But that damn blue one remains elusive.

Planning to ult uevo my 2nd blue valk to make some kind of row enhance w/ lots of double TPA blue healers team hahahha :V Needing an extra light orb for that and I haven't skilled up my 2nd blue valk yet.

Hercules is actually pretty easy. Though I haven't tried it with a blue team yet.
You biggest problem is the 2nd wave because the thing is half-green and you only have 3 or 4 turns I forgot.
Titan is half-red so you'd have an easy time, you also have the recovery to endure his attacks. (He attacks once then wastes a turn posing lol.)
Archangel's only problem is leaving you with time reduction as your skyfalls accidentally kill her :V
Hercules is very easy. With a team with high recovery like blue healers, you can easily endure his three challenges (you are going to need I&I frd to have 20k hp to take his 20k damage from third challenge)
afterwards he counts down from like 5 lol so take your time killing him.

Also, in JP which descents gets what jewel is not fixed anymore, is it like that in US yet?

Finally, you can always aim for a particular jewel the next time there's a giveaway, though that can get really frustrating. :V
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Post by: commandercool on December 07, 2014, 10:42:40 PM
Planning to ult uevo my 2nd blue valk to make some kind of row enhance w/ lots of double TPA blue healers team hahahha :V Needing an extra light orb for that and I haven't skilled up my 2nd blue valk yet.

Hercules is actually pretty easy. Though I haven't tried it with a blue team yet.
You biggest problem is the 2nd wave because the thing is half-green and you only have 3 or 4 turns I forgot.
Titan is half-red so you'd have an easy time, you also have the recovery to endure his attacks. (He attacks once then wastes a turn posing lol.)
Archangel's only problem is leaving you with time reduction as your skyfalls accidentally kill her :V
Hercules is very easy. With a team with high recovery like blue healers, you can easily endure his three challenges (you are going to need I&I frd to have 20k hp to take his 20k damage from third challenge)
afterwards he counts down from like 5 lol so take your time killing him.

Also, in JP which descents gets what jewel is not fixed anymore, is it like that in US yet?

Finally, you can always aim for a particular jewel the next time there's a giveaway, though that can get really frustrating. :V

Jewels aren't fixed to certain dungeons, I'm just talking about the upcoming event for the next week that we have the information for. I'll be able to get a blue orb from somewhere eventually with no problems I'm sure, I was just hoping to do it as soon as possible to give me more chances in case I just can't get it to drop.

Hercules is incredibly difficult for my specific team just because of how the team works. A different team would probably be able to manage it much more easily, but mine is a mono-blue stall team that converts into a spike team with Beyzul to kill bosses. Because Beyzul is so strict it's hard to use against multiple consecutive strong bosses or enemies with tons of health that can't be delayed.

The problem for me in this dungeon is Fafnir, since he has 4.2 million HP against me and I won't have time to stall up skills before I fight him. Once I have Beyzul skillmax I think I should be able to take care of him, but until then I can't see being able to output that much damage that fast. Maybe conserving hearts and then using heartmakers could let me live the extra turns it would take to kill him? I guess I can try that once or twice and see what happens. But if I can get past Fafnir nothing else in the dungeon is really threatening. Maybe I could get reeeally lucky and have Karin invade on the second floor.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 07, 2014, 11:04:39 PM
Jewels aren't fixed to certain dungeons, I'm just talking about the upcoming event for the next week that we have the information for. I'll be able to get a blue orb from somewhere eventually with no problems I'm sure, I was just hoping to do it as soon as possible to give me more chances in case I just can't get it to drop.

Hercules is incredibly difficult for my specific team just because of how the team works. A different team would probably be able to manage it much more easily, but mine is a mono-blue stall team that converts into a spike team with Beyzul to kill bosses. Because Beyzul is so strict it's hard to use against multiple consecutive strong bosses or enemies with tons of health that can't be delayed.

The problem for me in this dungeon is Fafnir, since he has 4.2 million HP against me and I won't have time to stall up skills before I fight him. Once I have Beyzul skillmax I think I should be able to take care of him, but until then I can't see being able to output that much damage that fast. Maybe conserving hearts and then using heartmakers could let me live the extra turns it would take to kill him? I guess I can try that once or twice and see what happens. But if I can get past Fafnir nothing else in the dungeon is really threatening. Maybe I could get reeeally lucky and have Karin invade on the second floor.

5 million HP on Heracles himself is pretty huge too, considering the first half is all wood damage. I wonder if you could put a Hera-Is in there somewhere and pair up with Lakshmi instead of I&I -- you already have a Sun Quan enhance so I&I is a bit redundant.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 07, 2014, 11:10:17 PM
cmd.cool: Yeah, Athena's been AWOL lately, because I'm looking to hypermax mine and get a second one for no-dupe alternate dungeons. I wonder where she could be...

Also Fafnir is indeed a jerk. I think my one try at Legend I downed him by the second snore since Leilan has some fire on her team, but I don't think I'd be able to get away on Mythical since you get almost no opportunity to even charge skills beforehand.

Also I don't think Heracles is going to give you more than a dozen turns before you eat a Gigantic Break. If you use a gravity right off the bat somehow it'll chew through most of the green bar, but otherwise you get to try and beat down over 7,500,000 HP in that many turns.
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Post by: Thaws on December 07, 2014, 11:17:20 PM
Hercules is incredibly difficult for my specific team just because of how the team works. A different team would probably be able to manage it much more easily, but mine is a mono-blue stall team that converts into a spike team with Beyzul to kill bosses. Because Beyzul is so strict it's hard to use against multiple consecutive strong bosses or enemies with tons of health that can't be delayed.

Ah, I was typing that up with your team having blue valkyrie as leader in mind, something like
BlueValk/Gab,Ruka,SQ,Siren/I&I
should have enough offense for Fafnir? as I believe you have enough time to go for a Gab+Valk+I&I or Ruka+Valk+I&I burst before Fafnir attacks if your friend is max-skilled.

I thought Fafnir was half green only before I checked though. oops. It might be tough to deal 4 million in 4 turns. I'd suggest using Gab separately and then Ruka+valkyrie for two burst chances. With some luck you might make it through. If the chance presents itself (18-20 blue orbs), going for 3 rows would definitely kill fafnir. (Ran some calculations and that'd deal over 3 million with the above team with water enhance) Though that needs some practice.

5 million HP on Heracles himself is pretty huge too, considering the first half is all wood damage.

It seems I underestimated Hercules' HP for a mono-blue, but assuming you survive all three challenges (These takes like 9 turns on there own so you'e sneaking in damage here and there)
He counts down giving you 5 more turns.
cmd.cool: Yeah, Athena's been AWOL lately, because I'm looking to hypermax mine and get a second one for no-dupe alternate dungeons. I wonder where she could be...

Also Fafnir is indeed a jerk. I think my one try at Legend I downed him by the second snore since Leilan has some fire on her team, but I don't think I'd be able to get away on Mythical since you get almost no opportunity to even charge skills beforehand.

Also I don't think Heracles is going to give you more than a dozen turns before you eat a Gigantic Break. If you use a gravity right off the bat somehow it'll chew through most of the green bar, but otherwise you get to try and beat down over 7,500,000 HP in that many turns.
BlueValk/Gab,Ruka,SQ,Hera-Is/I&I might work for him then?

Anyways, he's probably going to have a easier time if he waits until he levels up any one of his rainbow team leaders. lol
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Post by: commandercool on December 07, 2014, 11:32:07 PM
Also Fafnir is indeed a jerk. I think my one try at Legend I downed him by the second snore since Leilan has some fire on her team, but I don't think I'd be able to get away on Mythical since you get almost no opportunity to even charge skills beforehand.

I didn't realize he snored multiple times. He still seems like too much for me to handle, but that does make it easier in theory. I'd have at least five turns to deal damage since Fafnir can't one-shot me, and probably at least seven since my heartmakers would be up by then. I'd still have to do more damage each turn than I think is likely, but it might be worth trying once or twice and seeing what happens.

Also I don't think Heracles is going to give you more than a dozen turns before you eat a Gigantic Break. If you use a gravity right off the bat somehow it'll chew through most of the green bar, but otherwise you get to try and beat down over 7,500,000 HP in that many turns.

I might be underestimating Heracles, but I think I can handle him. He is delayable, so I can get multiple turns of Beyzul damage on him, and he would give me enough time to pop all of my skills, recharge, and do it again. Once again, would be a million times more plausible with a max skill Beyzul and Sun Quan, but whatever.

Ah, I was typing that up with your team having blue valkyrie as leader in mind, something like
BlueValk/Gab,Ruka,SQ,Siren/I&I
should have enough offense for Fafnir? as I believe you have enough time to go for a Gab+Valk+I&I or Ruka+Valk+I&I burst before Fafnir attacks if your friend is max-skilled.

I have plenty of +297 max skill I&I friends, so finding a friend wouldn't be hard. That might be enough firepower to deal with Fafnir, but I'd be much more worried about Hercules with that team. His challenges actually stand a chance of killing me and I wouldn't have the x24 attack for multiple turns that I could have with the other one.

I thought Fafnir was half green only before I checked though. oops. It might be tough to deal 4 million in 4 turns. I'd suggest using Gab separately and then Ruka+valkyrie for two burst chances. With some luck you might make it through. If the chance presents itself (18-20 blue orbs), going for 3 rows would definitely kill fafnir. (Ran some calculations and that'd deal over 3 million with the above team with water enhance) Though that needs some practice.

I never learned how to do three rows. It's very rare that x24 isn't enough to kill something with two rows so it rarely matters. I could probably kill him with Valk/I&I and some luck, but a farming team that needs luck is a bad deal.

It seems I underestimated Hercules' HP for a mono-blue, but assuming you survive all three challenges (These takes like 9 turns on there own so you'e sneaking in damage here and there)
He counts down giving you 5 more turns.BlueValk/Gab,Ruka,SQ,Hera-Is/I&I might work for him then?

That might do it, but unfortunately my Hera-Is is hugely underleveled. I don't think she's ever been fed anything that wasn't another Hera or Hera-Is, so she's like level 20 unevolved right now.

Anyways, he's probably going to have a easier time if he waits until he levels up any one of his rainbow team leaders. lol

Nooooo kidding. :derp: I probably won't get my blue orb this week, which is fine, I'm sure more chances will come around. My various rainbow teams have all been backburnered in favor of my Athena team, since I want a very stable coin dungeon farming setup... Just in time for the no dupes dungeons to show up and invalidate that entire team. Bet it would have no trouble with Hercules though. I think it complements the weaknesses of the Gabriel team very well.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 07, 2014, 11:54:43 PM
Would it be possible to use 2x Hera-Is in your build?

EDIT: Idk why I missed that.
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Post by: Suikama on December 07, 2014, 11:55:04 PM
I hope you have good RCV for Heracles because he starts the fight with skill bind + 99% gravity, then followed up by a 10k punch. No chance to delay him before then unless you have skill bind resists.
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Post by: commandercool on December 08, 2014, 01:13:33 AM
Shit, just shatteted m phone into splinters. Guess I won't be doing anything strenuous in PAD until I get this fixed anyway.

I hope you have good RCV for Heracles because he starts the fight with skill bind + 99% gravity, then followed up by a 10k punch. No chance to delay him before then unless you have skill bind resists.

Not worried about that. I got the recovery.

Edit: Actually, for a fistful of phone shards this touchscreen still works surprisingly well now that I take a closer look at it. Maybe this isn't a deal breaker after all.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 08, 2014, 03:33:10 AM
Shit, just shatteted m phone into splinters. Guess I won't be doing anything strenuous in PAD until I get this fixed anyway.

Not worried about that. I got the recovery.

Edit: Actually, for a fistful of phone shards this touchscreen still works surprisingly well now that I take a closer look at it. Maybe this isn't a deal breaker after all.
Don't cut yourself on the shards.  Would suck to have the dungeons literally fight back.
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Post by: commandercool on December 08, 2014, 03:49:07 AM
Has anyone else been doing Wind Chasers today? Can anyone confirm that it actually is on double drops? I swear even after the display updated to claim that it was it still isn't. ~200 stamina on a mix of Master and Expert later and I've still gotten only a single chaser, on Expert. What the fuck?
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Post by: Yukarin on December 08, 2014, 03:59:54 AM
After difficulties to get the game installed (fuck Europe), this game is really fun

my id 377,945,395

first thing to do is add as many of us here as possible.

MotK PaD friends is best friends.  :V
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Post by: Suikama on December 08, 2014, 04:06:07 AM
Has anyone else been doing Wind Chasers today? Can anyone confirm that it actually is on double drops? I swear even after the display updated to claim that it was it still isn't. ~200 stamina on a mix of Master and Expert later and I've still gotten only a single chaser, on Expert. What the fuck?
this is why i never trust things that aren't 100% in pad

80% drop rate? 80% skill lock resist? might as well be 0%


insect dragons start tomorrow and they have mythical versions wtf

man that stone might be a pain to get
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 04:13:39 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/541806353962893312

Japan's preparing a special Christmas dungeon where you can get wild Snowglobes.

well I know what I'm dumping my stones on! BRING ON THE EXP BIZNATCHES
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Post by: Chaore on December 08, 2014, 04:45:06 AM
Has anyone else been doing Wind Chasers today? Can anyone confirm that it actually is on double drops? I swear even after the display updated to claim that it was it still isn't. ~200 stamina on a mix of Master and Expert later and I've still gotten only a single chaser, on Expert. What the fuck?

did you do it before it was actually up at noon pst

because the news was a lying sack of shit
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Post by: Thaws on December 08, 2014, 04:46:49 AM
insect dragons start tomorrow and they have mythical versions wtf

man that stone might be a pain to get

don't worry they're not myth descent level, I'd say it's even easier than Zeus. If you can do alt. dungeons consistently, you'd be able to do this consistently also to farm skillups.
It's just the midboss demon+chimera wave might be a little tricky so don't let your guard down and you'd be okay.
Though I believe Legend is now 45 stam and is not a hundred percent sure-drop for boss.
I did mythical to skill up my Sarasvati.

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/541806353962893312

Japan's preparing a special Christmas dungeon where you can get wild Snowglobes.

well I know what I'm dumping my stones on! BRING ON THE EXP BIZNATCHES

 :o r u srs
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Post by: Yukarin on December 08, 2014, 04:58:12 AM
i want that dungeon

i really do i want to max every monster on my box

pls
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 08, 2014, 05:05:58 AM
Well, if Legend's not a 100% drop rate it should surprise exactly nobody if you think about it. 

Isn't the usual rule "If a Mythical exists, Legend boss drop rate becomes 40%"?

Though I guess it coulda been different since it's a five difficulty biweekly.  Oh well.

I'll be waiting for the wood version of this since I have GGY and if it follows how this one has RGY's skillup, the wood one should have the wood Guan Yu's, right?  Not that I've touched GGY at all since getting him, but that'd be a great place to start unless it's another of those evolved skillup materials.

Edit:  Oh wait, no, it's for the wood witch.  Well, that's pretty terrible but oh well.  Guess I get to wait for Mini Guan Yu then if I'm gonna bother with that.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 08, 2014, 05:07:34 AM
insect dragons start tomorrow and they have mythical versions wtf

man that stone might be a pain to get

Shouldn't Isis blow everything away in there because it's Fire? Though the devil+chimera is just a really big finger to the players...

Not sure which of my teams I should use for this one. Athena probably has an easier time.
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Post by: Suikama on December 08, 2014, 05:25:07 AM
yeah fire will be easy but wood though

also the current alt dungeons are kind of annoying because of the no dupe restriction which means i have to play a non isis friend leader and it's just ughhh orb troll after orb troll fuck this
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 05:51:33 AM
also the current alt dungeons are kind of annoying because of the no dupe restriction which means i have to play a non isis friend leader and it's just ughhh orb troll after orb troll fuck this

You can't do it Murai-style and do Isis/Horus? AFAIK that was his setup for Zeus-Mercury too even lol.

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Post by: Suikama on December 08, 2014, 05:56:29 AM
yeah ive been basically doing that but i dont have that many horus friends. also not being able to activate off hearts is annoying

sometimes i try bastet but she seems so weak sometimes. her active is useful for the dual carbucle levels though
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 08, 2014, 05:56:53 AM
I'm curious about what makes up everyone's box. My box is 550 spaces and it's

20% evo mats
30% skilling material
14% stuff I am using/have used/plan to use in teams
everything else is trophy stuff/REM rolls I don't care about.

yeah fire will be easy but wood though

also the current alt dungeons are kind of annoying because of the no dupe restriction which means i have to play a non isis friend leader and it's just ughhh orb troll after orb troll fuck this
Can't you go B/B Isis or DQXQ?
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 06:00:54 AM
sometimes i try bastet but she seems so weak sometimes. her active is useful for the dual carbucle levels though

does she? I've done heavy damage using a bastet leader and i rarely ever run double-bastet, I'm always bastet+someone else. hell I even wrecked PADBT Collab with Bastet/Athena, lol
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Post by: commandercool on December 08, 2014, 06:07:45 AM
did you do it before it was actually up at noon pst

because the news was a lying sack of shit

I saved up stamina for most of Saturday and went in to 3PM Sunday with a full bar. So yes, I did a shitload of runs before the actual drop boost, which was shitty. But  I also did a bunch after. I did a TON of runs today, and I got like nothing for it. Like to an insane, beyond-the-pale, I-think-there's-something-wrong-here degree. I dropped over 400 stamina in the last 24 hours and got two chasers out of it. I have 25 right now from saving up for an entire week of basically nonstop runs, which is enough that it's conceivable I might get skillmax, and a hugely disproportionate chunk of those came from the first two days.
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Post by: Thaws on December 08, 2014, 06:26:12 AM
You can't do it Murai-style and do Isis/Horus? AFAIK that was his setup for Zeus-Mercury too even lol.

AFAIK he did Isis/Ra

sometimes i try bastet but she seems so weak

i will fight u

...Just kidding. Contrary to popular belief, combo leaders do not pair well with rainbow leaders.
Bastet needs a mono-green, or bi-colour team (I prefer Green/Light or Green/Water, the former because of the vast amount of such monsters, the latter because UmiYama+Gabriel).
You also needs lots of orb changers.
Combo leaders have a tougher condition for a lower multipliers than rainbow team leaders simply because they can use orb changers to make lots of their own colour's orbs, if you're not doing that because you need all colours then it's wasted potential.

You're better off with Horus/Ra/DQXQ/Hathorwhenitcomesout
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 06:36:06 AM
AFAIK he did Isis/Ra

Nah he did Isis/Horus, IIRC he doesn't run Ra like ever, lol. I watched it too, you can go check the VOD from kosuke's channel
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Post by: Thaws on December 08, 2014, 06:44:33 AM
Nah he did Isis/Horus, IIRC he doesn't run Ra like ever, lol. I watched it too, you can go check the VOD from kosuke's channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wRP5zmbhG6U#t=820
He ran with Ra, which very luckily allowed him to skip through Neptune

And actually he pulled a Ra from I don't know when and he has some videos of Ra/Ra teams on his channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpB0nlKwDAI

but it seems his new favourite is LKali  :V (he seems to be planning to use LKali in the upcoming livestream too?)
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 07:02:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wRP5zmbhG6U#t=820
He ran with Ra, which very luckily allowed him to skip through Neptune

Huh, I guess I misremembered then :V

I know he did run with Hathor in Zhao Yun, so I guess he likes those kinds of leads
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Post by: Chaore on December 08, 2014, 07:50:13 AM
I saved up stamina for most of Saturday and went in to 3PM Sunday with a full bar. So yes, I did a shitload of runs before the actual drop boost, which was shitty. But  I also did a bunch after. I did a TON of runs today, and I got like nothing for it. Like to an insane, beyond-the-pale, I-think-there's-something-wrong-here degree. I dropped over 400 stamina in the last 24 hours and got two chasers out of it. I have 25 right now from saving up for an entire week of basically nonstop runs, which is enough that it's conceivable I might get skillmax, and a hugely disproportionate chunk of those came from the first two days.

I saw basically nothing wrong, so sounds like it's only you tbh.

Relatedly.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GCRsmPqfq2Y/VIVWl72RPEI/AAAAAAAAAWM/f4J_tL5APVw/w385-h684-no/14%2B-%2B1)

-help me-.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 08, 2014, 07:59:39 AM
yeah ive been basically doing that but i dont have that many horus friends. also not being able to activate off hearts is annoying

sometimes i try bastet but she seems so weak sometimes. her active is useful for the dual carbucle levels though

If you need a frame of reference, I mash through Alt Satan like 20-40 times a day with LeiThena, I only really die to stupid ass mistakes because i'm all like GOTTA GO FAST SAAAAANIC trying to get as many runs as I can out of the hour.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 08, 2014, 08:11:28 AM
Yeah umm I have no idea how you manage to get that many runs I struggle to get like, seven in an hour.

Maybe I'm not bursting hard enough or Hades scares me too much.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 08, 2014, 08:22:02 AM
Yeah umm I have no idea how you manage to get that many runs I struggle to get like, seven in an hour.

Maybe I'm not bursting hard enough or Hades scares me too much.

Castle of Satan Level 5 gives the most insane exp for notably harder difficulty. Don't get me wrong, I still fuck up more than i'd like, but I plan my exp pretty carefully so that I just get trapped in an infinite rank-up loop, so as long as I never lose, I can just keep mowing things down. Right now i'm at 10~11 in an hour, hoping to hit 12. Not sure if 13 is possible.

Relatedly, I have no idea if this was my phone being on too long or what, but I ran into a wave with 4 enemies. A hobgoblin spawned, and then the game froze for about 5 seconds before it could load anything else. It then loaded the next enemy, which was a Flampy. Apparently these fuckers cause the game to hang!
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 08:39:07 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/541870668787097601

After the maintenance in Japan (1530~2130 today in JST), which introduces the doubled Pal Point cap (10k -> 20k), there will be a new PEM Event available within the month. Not sure what it is yet. We'll find out later or tomorrow.
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Post by: Espadas on December 08, 2014, 09:06:21 AM
Muahahaha, waiting all these days to evolve Great Valkyrie to Princess and for the higher great/super chance was worth it!

Snowglobe Blanc + 3 Super King Gold........ SUPEEEEEEER!!!  :*  From level 1 to 98  :D


On a less happy note, first roll on the silver rem got me my second Berserker Z....
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/541888535020597248
Almadel stats
G/R, Balanced/Devil

AS: Summon Tree - 2 random wood orbs, enhances all wood orbs on the board
LS: Twin Seal of the Magic Book Wd/Fr - 2.5x ATK to all Wood attribute monsters, 1.4x ATK to all Fire attribute monsters, 3.5x ATK if both
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Post by: Thaws on December 08, 2014, 10:18:07 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/541888535020597248
Almadel stats
G/R, Balanced/Devil

AS: Summon Tree - 2 random wood orbs, enhances all wood orbs on the board
LS: Twin Seal of the Magic Book Wd/Fr - 2.5x ATK to all Wood attribute monsters, 1.4x ATK to all Fire attribute monsters, 3.5x ATK if both

Not bad, skill is a straight-up better version of myth creatures like Gryphon, but skill maxing will be annoying, it's basically trifruits-level of annoying-ness for a skill that's weaker. Since they don't change existing green orbs to green again, it's the perfect skill to follow up on Gonia or Avalondrake.
Lol awakenings, they better be serious about buffing enhance awakenings, but enhance awakenings doesn't require you to do something out-of-the-way to get the bonus like TPA/rows so I don't see how they can buff it more.
Even gungho knows the LS is so "meh" they can be released on a descent monster, yet Goetia and Arsnova are gold eggs from gacha and still has this same LS... wat.

btw, now that we have an orb changing effect that can be weaker than straight up X -> Y, can we be expecting to see these effects being stuck to currently mediocre skills to buff them?
I'd love to see Indian 2.0s create 3 orbs each time their droprate increase is activated. Bastet would benefit from create 3 wood over the current 1.15x mini-enhance. and so on

so when are the other two books out so we can see are they waifu material :V

also
(http://i.imgur.com/QIoYpa9.png)

CHRISTMAS PINK REM GG guys GOODBYE TO ALL YOUR STONES
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 10:24:19 AM
CHRISTMAS PINK REM GG guys GOODBYE TO ALL YOUR STONES

I doubt it's a REM because Murako literally just announced there would be a new Pal Point event, so maybe it's actually a Christmas Pink PEM
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Post by: Thaws on December 08, 2014, 10:32:57 AM
I doubt it's a REM because Murako literally just announced there would be a new Pal Point event, so maybe it's actually a Christmas Pink PEM

But they just introduced sticker girls to REM which may be a move to prepare a Pink REM renewal so that it'd have a similar lineup to Silver REM, some 4 stars (Fairy Tale series fit perfectly) and lots of 5-6 stars (just put in valkyries and everyone will be rollings :V and to make more money, release Christmas version of *insert popular girl* as super rare 6 star and not upped on the first time like Wetatron :V )

Actually, if they put in valkyries I'm probably not rolling :getdown: though I guess dupes can be good too :V

Pal Point event may be something like the usual evo material events except with a different lineup (Skillup mats? Piis? Noel Dragons?)
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Post by: Chaore on December 08, 2014, 10:41:58 AM
Actually, if they put in valkyries I'm probably not rolling :getdown: though I guess dupes can be good too :V

they're literally probaly some of the best monsters in the game now

so if they want to choke money from poor souls...
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Post by: trancehime on December 08, 2014, 10:48:58 AM
But they just introduced sticker girls to REM which may be a move to prepare a Pink REM renewal so that it'd have a similar lineup to Silver REM, some 4 stars (Fairy Tale series fit perfectly) and lots of 5-6 stars (just put in valkyries and everyone will be rollings :V and to make more money, release Christmas version of *insert popular girl* as super rare 6 star and not upped on the first time like Wetatron :V )

Santa DTron; calling it!
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Post by: Thaws on December 08, 2014, 10:59:03 AM
they're literally probaly some of the best monsters in the game now

so if they want to choke money from poor souls...

I know they're super good right now but I just pulled a whole set of them (including the original light valkyrie which was not ever upped lols) in the past two months :V

but they're obviously putting them in, they always do that when something gets new ults.

Santa DTron; calling it!

Too bad it won't work because Santa version would likely become main red and her active is orb enhance :V unless they give her a new active.
and imagine if they made a Santa Sonia L/R healer type :V active full board to light/red :V :V :V
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Post by: Chaore on December 08, 2014, 11:10:22 AM
Too bad it won't work because Santa version would likely become main red and her active is orb enhance :V unless they give her a new active.
and imagine if they made a Santa Sonia L/R healer type :V active full board to light/red :V :V :V

they could also just do santa GZL

not a waifu but in red he'd have access to kagu....
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Post by: Yukarin on December 08, 2014, 11:27:17 AM
okay guys

what the fuck my PAD said I had to update

anybody else?

EDIT: PAD fixed itself for some reason. Okay.

On an unrelated note, I got Green Wee Jas from the Silver Egg Machine. Is he any good?
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Post by: commandercool on December 08, 2014, 12:52:28 PM
30 PEM pulls, notables were red fruit, devilit, tamadra, and three +eggs. Not bad, not great. Neighbor rival texted me at 4AM to brag about getting a blue orb out of 11 pulls. Well shit.

I saw basically nothing wrong, so sounds like it's only you tbh.

Relatedly.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GCRsmPqfq2Y/VIVWl72RPEI/AAAAAAAAAWM/f4J_tL5APVw/w385-h684-no/14%2B-%2B1)

-help me-.

Okay, good. Was just starting to get concerned there for a second.

Yeah, that seems overboard, but insurance never hurts (anything but your box). Watch me max her our with 25 while you don't with 38.
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Post by: Bio on December 08, 2014, 01:32:38 PM
Oh I probably should have grinded more Chasers for my other Meimei huh. It's coming again anyway.
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Post by: commandercool on December 08, 2014, 01:47:04 PM
Ah ha ha what the fuck I just died on The Thief. I don't even know what happened, my first screen had only two water orbs so I didn't kill any ninjas, second turn thought I matched some water and some heals but I actually matched neither and I died. I don't know if I should blame my brain for being too tired because it's early or my phone for being broken, but something is terribly wrong here. It just went from "50 stamina for one stone=good deal" to "100 stamina (or more?!) for one stone=dubious when there are +boosted technicals afoot". I guess I have to go back in later just to prove I can do it. :wat:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 08, 2014, 04:13:21 PM
0 stones, and the debut of Zeta-Hydra! and goddamn he is AMAZING AS FUCK

(http://i.imgur.com/Yi5bs34.png) (http://i.imgur.com/7NE7WVf.png)

Wave 3 demon was Astaroth. She tried to ask me what we were going to do on the bed, but I told her I don't play those kinds of games.
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Post by: Edible on December 08, 2014, 04:19:50 PM
Thanks game, for giving me a sarutobi sasuke the day after his skillup collab goes away

Also for the extra thanatos (at least he had a plus egg).
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 08, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
Thank you based "I have no stone to roll Silver REM."
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 08, 2014, 05:58:48 PM
Tempted to do one roll on the silver REM just for the heck of it...Not sure if I should, since while a lo of the stuff there could potentially be quite nice for me, a lot of it might not as well...Hm...
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Post by: Chaore on December 08, 2014, 06:39:51 PM
Yeah, that seems overboard, but insurance never hurts (anything but your box). Watch me max her our with 25 while you don't with 38.

haha, fuck you for that wish buddy

Also it's less insurance and more I have 3 god damn meimei.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 08, 2014, 06:41:47 PM
Did my token roll of the silver REM so I'd stop being annoyed that I hadn't.

Well, guess I'll be waiting for Watery Temptress to come back, huh?  Hanzo get.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 08, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
On an unrelated note, I got Green Wee Jas from the Silver Egg Machine. Is he any good?

Bindproof, bind-recovering, time extending wizard. His active literally gives you a delay and a row of hearts which you can use for orb changes or triggering bind recovery.

...yeah, he's pretty fuckin' good.
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Post by: Chaore on December 08, 2014, 06:51:09 PM
Bindproof, bind-recovering, time extending wizard. His active literally gives you a delay and a row of hearts which you can use for orb changes or triggering bind recovery.

...yeah, he's pretty fuckin' good.

The only shame is it's the one color that doesn't go with LKali :v
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 08, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
True, but I suppose that as a healer he can go on her LMeta team instead. Not that an LMeta team needs more bind removal but you know what I mean.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 08, 2014, 08:50:36 PM
Did 30 rolls in the PAL egg. Got 4 +eggs, a TAMADRA, a Yellow Chaser, dark and green dublits, red and rainbow keepers, blue divine mask and a green jewel. I wanted a blue dublit for Gabby, but I won't complain. Saves me the trouble of getting a jewel for Valkyrie.
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Post by: commandercool on December 08, 2014, 09:02:51 PM
Until a couple of days ago I was still working under the assumption that Kali needed all five colors to activate. I may have backed the wrong horse with leveling Athena first...

haha, fuck you for that wish buddy

Also it's less insurance and more I have 3 god damn meimei.

It's not a wish, it's a dire vision of the future. And what a dark future it is.

But god damb, fair enough.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 08, 2014, 09:10:32 PM
Until a couple of days ago I was still working under the assumption that Kali needed all five colors to activate. I may have backed the wrong horse with leveling Athena first...

Hardly. She's easy to use, and also easy to slot in for attack power. Kali's a biiiit more specific.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 08, 2014, 09:12:15 PM

It's not a wish, it's a dire vision of the future. And what a dark future it is.

But god damb, fair enough.

He should get 2 more Meimeis and clear stuff with them to declare himself the master of Meimeis. It'd be like that guy with clears with 6 Bastets but better because Meimei is cuter.

Hardly. She's easy to use, and also easy to slot in for attack power. Kali's a biiiit more specific.

Yeah Kali's annoying because dark is kinda hard to fill. Kirin has it easy because Valkyrie exists.
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Post by: Suikama on December 08, 2014, 09:16:23 PM
Lkali + Hera-Is is already all the important colors covered :V

although i guess hera kinda sucks these days
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Post by: Edible on December 08, 2014, 09:45:31 PM
There are so many colors with a dark sub that are worth using, I don't think it's particularly hard to fill the slot.

Obviously some subs are better than others, but even looking purely at farmables, defoud is a fantastic lkali sub.  Or if you can't get him, use blue vamp or hera sowilo or something
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 08, 2014, 10:18:27 PM
ATTN: ANYONE TRYING TO SKILLUP MEIMEI

https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/965741706787755/?type=1&relevant_count=1
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Post by: Chaore on December 08, 2014, 10:30:29 PM
He should get 2 more Meimeis and clear stuff with them to declare himself the master of Meimeis. It'd be like that guy with clears with 6 Bastets but better because Meimei is cuter.

This is legit the plan to be honest.

Honestly, despite Commanda Cool's saltyness, I should be able to max skill one atleast and that's good enough for the moment. Down the line I want to skill up both my G/D and second G/L though, which'll be tough.

Yeah Kali's annoying because dark is kinda hard to fill. Kirin has it easy because Valkyrie exists.

you can literally just fake kirin in hera-is or something

it's not that hard at all tbh
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Post by: Suikama on December 08, 2014, 10:42:38 PM
Also just because a combo leader doesn't need a certain color doesn't mean it's a waste to have subs of that color unless you're loaded up with orb changers.

Especially L Kali who makes all 5 colors with her active anyways, so unless you're planning on changing the green orbs away, you're probably going to end up matching them.
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Post by: commandercool on December 08, 2014, 11:59:38 PM
ATTN: ANYONE TRYING TO SKILLUP MEIMEI

https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/965741706787755/?type=1&relevant_count=1

Oh wow, that's fantastic. I was hoping for something like this but I didn't actually expect it. Fuck, is Gungho a responsible company that makes a game? I know people seem to despise them but I'm not seeing it. I'm used to being burned hard by my hobby companies, and they seem pretty reasonable from just about all I've ever seen.

This is legit the plan to be honest.

Do it. Get in there. Two dark Meimeis as the leads and four light ones as the subs? Crush everyone with cuteness. No survivors.

There are so many colors with a dark sub that are worth using, I don't think it's particularly hard to fill the slot.

Obviously some subs are better than others, but even looking purely at farmables, defoud is a fantastic lkali sub.  Or if you can't get him, use blue vamp or hera sowilo or something

Oh wow, Defoud does work really well for that. Didn't even consider him. Interesting. I guess I'll have to go get one.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 09, 2014, 12:02:56 AM
Oh wow, that's fantastic. I was hoping for something like this but I didn't actually expect it. Fuck, is Gungho a responsible company that makes a game? I know people seem to despise them but I'm not seeing it. I'm used to being burned hard by my hobby companies, and they seem pretty reasonable from just about all I've ever seen.

The NA branch seem like really cool people. The main JP branch seems to be the typical JP company that mainly caters to their demographic before they do work on the others.
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Post by: Chaore on December 09, 2014, 12:34:36 AM
The NA branch seem like really cool people. The main JP branch seems to be the typical JP company that mainly caters to their demographic before they do work on the others.

they've toned their dickbaggery down as of late, but keep in mind droiddragon's awakenings have been literally almost a year coming.

NA gungho literally spent a lot of it's lifetime not giving a fuck about us

do NOT forget that.

meanwhile in japan 'lets hold a bunch of fun player-based events that effect the game and streams with rewards out the ass'


also

behold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2_MOATwFAA)
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 09, 2014, 12:36:54 AM
Oh wow, that's fantastic. I was hoping for something like this but I didn't actually expect it. Fuck, is Gungho a responsible company that makes a game? I know people seem to despise them but I'm not seeing it. I'm used to being burned hard by my hobby companies, and they seem pretty reasonable from just about all I've ever seen.

Do it. Get in there. Two dark Meimeis as the leads and four light ones as the subs? Crush everyone with cuteness. No survivors.

Oh wow, Defoud does work really well for that. Didn't even consider him. Interesting. I guess I'll have to go get one.

Most of the despising is REM-related. Putting all those stones in there and not getting anything useful can get pretty annoying, if you actually spent money on that,then it feels like a kick in the pants.  Outside of that that, I think they're pretty cool. It's nice how they have a guy to take care of the "unofficial forum." I just wish the NA side mattered more. Like maybe if we voted on a survey or something. That'd be cool.



behold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2_MOATwFAA)

Owww.
Seeing how the Kirin didn't get sold, I'm guessing the guy's a Kirin main.
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Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2014, 12:57:20 AM
they've toned their dickbaggery down as of late, but keep in mind droiddragon's awakenings have been literally almost a year coming.

NA gungho literally spent a lot of it's lifetime not giving a fuck about us

do NOT forget that.

meanwhile in japan 'lets hold a bunch of fun player-based events that effect the game and streams with rewards out the ass'


also

behold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2_MOATwFAA)
no not isis ;_;

also rip in chainsaws
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Post by: Yukarin on December 09, 2014, 04:03:27 AM
Lkali + Hera-Is is already all the important colors covered :V

although i guess hera kinda sucks these days

120 cost tho haha
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Post by: trancehime on December 09, 2014, 05:00:50 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/542180834115997697
Theurgia
R/B - Attacker/Devil

https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/542181006887772160
Ars Paulina
B/G - Physical/Devil

Both of them have similar AS/LS to Almadel, just substitute colors for their colors.
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Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2014, 07:01:52 AM
oh baby ars paulina is like a better hrungnir and goddamn shes hot :V
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Post by: Chaore on December 09, 2014, 08:38:29 AM
whoops

remember kids, angels can just say 'fuck this' and punch you in the god damn throat if you expect them to just hit you for 6k
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Post by: Espadas on December 09, 2014, 09:28:47 AM
oh baby ars paulina is like a better hrungnir and goddamn shes hot :V

while i completely agree with you, what cracked me up is the bean chikorita wood thing with the EPIC beard+moustache on the right  :3
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Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2014, 03:41:04 PM
oh i just realized these are all designed for the new special gods

Almadel for Urd

Theugia for Verdandi

Paulina for Skuld
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Post by: Edible on December 09, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
Random aside:

Ronia/Ronia/Ronia/Shiva/Belial/Ronia is an utterly hilarious team.

Two of my ronias are unskilled but they're still online in 9 turns. :V
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Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2014, 03:44:53 PM
welcome to the dark side
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Post by: commandercool on December 09, 2014, 04:19:48 PM
Random aside:

Ronia/Ronia/Ronia/Shiva/Belial/Ronia is an utterly hilarious team.

Two of my ronias are unskilled but they're still online in 9 turns. :V

Did you just devote an entire post just to telling us Ronia is good? What are you doing, Edible? WHAT ARE YOU DOOOOOING?
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Post by: Edible on December 09, 2014, 04:27:40 PM
... yes, I suppose I did do that :V
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 09, 2014, 05:34:08 PM
yo commandercool thank you kindly for hypermaxed Blue Valk.

I could farm Red Insect Dragon, but I don't actually have a Krishna to benefit.

Sarasvati, on the other hand...
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 09, 2014, 05:39:18 PM
(http://danmaku.mysteryparfait.com/images/valkiriedrops-s.jpg) (http://danmaku.mysteryparfait.com/images/valkiriedrops.jpg)
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 09, 2014, 05:42:52 PM
It's so, so true. :persona:
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Post by: Edible on December 09, 2014, 05:46:30 PM
I have a Krishna, but he's unleveled.  I might get around to farming red insect dragon during 2x, at least.  Krishna with a six turn cooldown sounds pretty great.
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Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2014, 05:46:35 PM
dat deji art
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Post by: Chaore on December 09, 2014, 06:56:05 PM
oh i just realized these are all designed for the new special gods

Almadel for Urd

Theugia for Verdandi

Paulina for Skuld

Yup, badly needed for them too.

Especially urd. The orb enhances should be hillarious with them combined.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 09, 2014, 07:43:03 PM
Almadel is actually for Verdandi and Theurgia is for Urd.
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Post by: Edible on December 09, 2014, 07:56:19 PM
Blue/Green teams are basically awesome now.
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Post by: Edible on December 09, 2014, 09:02:57 PM
Holy hell, the things in insect dragon mythical hit like a freight train
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Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2014, 09:15:17 PM
eh they seem kinda weak after grinding coin dungeons all day :V


also heracules 0 stoned

although i might have 0 stoned him already i cant remember

probably not because i didn't have 20k hp before so i would of had to stone on double million punches

but this time not only did i have enough hp but i also killed him before even got to use it :derp:


no karin invade though which was what i was really after :(
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Post by: Edible on December 09, 2014, 10:16:37 PM
Beating Herc with a water-focused isis team has gotta be kind of a pain in the ass
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Post by: Suikama on December 09, 2014, 10:33:13 PM
Oh I swapped Sieg for Gigas so it was alright. Gigas active for the Red orbs melts Fafnir. Then Grape Dragon + Gigas + Bubblie burst on Heracles. It didn't kill but it knocked out his green hp with ease.

i guess i should thank gungho for making gigas physical instead of attacker :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 09, 2014, 10:53:39 PM
eh they seem kinda weak after grinding coin dungeons all day :V

I think this is why I've been attempting harder shit lately. Swatting enemies with 7 digit HP using a nonstandard team with almost no room for error just kind of makes a lot of the stuff in the game look like a joke in comparison.
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Post by: commandercool on December 10, 2014, 12:11:08 AM
My quest to skillup Verche has been going very smoothly so far. Every time I've had the chance to sit down and drop a full stamina bar plus rank-up into his dungeon I've gotten a consistent five knights (out of 16 runs) and every batch of five fodder feeds has yielded one skillup. Nice and easy, no nasty surprises. No nice surprises either, aside from the lack of nasty surprises, but that is enough. Now that I've said that I'm sure things will go horribly awry for the final one skillup I need, but I've got a few days to get it and probably enough stones to brute force this at the last second if I need to.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 10, 2014, 12:43:31 AM
rdj itinerary:

--Tuesday - Keeper of the Green
--Wednesday - not sure if Room of the Mask Int would be worth it or if Sacred Mt. Bakkes off of 1.5x drop would be better
--Thursday - Princess Punt Legend until invade or wood bonuses roll around, whichever comes first, then Dungeon of Wood forever
--Friday - Shrine of Spirits Expert until dubmythlit, then Shrine of Spirits Int until enough emelits, then Princess Punt Legend if still no invade, then Fire Insect Dragon
--Saturday: ???

too much stuff to doooooo
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2014, 12:55:13 AM
YES

YES

M BISON FUCKING YYYYESSSSSSS
(http://i.imgur.com/TK5Wj13.png) (http://i.imgur.com/XyRNkhl.png)

That's every single Mythical Material dungeon 0-stoned with Leilan.
twin masks are legend difficulty they don't count
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 10, 2014, 12:56:24 AM
twin masks are legend difficulty they don't count

get on it dood

Congrats!
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Post by: Thaws on December 10, 2014, 01:18:59 AM
twin masks are legend difficulty they don't count

Time to roll until you get a red chester
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2014, 01:30:54 AM
Time to roll until you get a red chester

Ideally I'd want him, yeah - I have GZL and Bastet for the remaining 40%.

Since y'all apparently got it in the REM for a limited time at some point, I think I'll pass until that happens on a fest. Verdandi is a much bigger priority for me, hence the 40 stones.
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Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2014, 01:45:15 AM
ughhh i just want knights and egypt 2.0 already gungho na plsssssss


Also Red Insect Dragon s-ranked
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Post by: Aoshi-shi on December 10, 2014, 04:18:07 AM
Pulled two Angelits from the PEM yesterday morning. After running the Tuesday dungeon, I now have a Twinlit I&I! \o/
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2014, 05:44:42 AM
Pulled two Angelits from the PEM yesterday morning. After running the Tuesday dungeon, I now have a Twinlit I&I! \o/

There's a good amount of people here with awesome blue healers, so a very powerful investment!
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Post by: Yukarin on December 10, 2014, 05:45:23 AM
Pulled two Angelits from the PEM yesterday morning. After running the Tuesday dungeon, I now have a Twinlit I&I! \o/

yea boiiiiii
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Post by: Chaore on December 10, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
have a link to the survey 12 results in real time (http://mpuzzledragon.com/questionnaire12.php)

notable, the only thing without a vote right now is red chaser.

literally the only thing.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 10, 2014, 12:33:09 PM
have a link to the survey 12 results in real time (http://mpuzzledragon.com/questionnaire12.php)

notable, the only thing without a vote right now is red chaser.

literally the only thing.

Why Apollo? Is Hera-Sowilo not good enough for them. Her dungeon is still going to be better since they always drop evolved. We need more ninja skill-ups.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2014, 12:42:13 PM
So sometime between last night and this morning, Balance 2 was enabled on NA servers - my elementals have orb enhance on their actives now.


notable, the only thing without a vote right now is red chaser.


I knew I couldn't trust those JP scrubs to get a flame chaser survey going, glad I used those 4 flampy to hypermax
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Post by: commandercool on December 10, 2014, 01:55:27 PM
One dungeon into the Valkyrie buff and I can already see the presence of them prongs. Gotta get those orbs, gotta get more prongs.

On a related Valkyrie-buffing note, it's going to be weird when she gets a new portrait. Real weird. I've been looking at this portrait almost every dungeon basically since I started. The new one is nice and all, but it's going to be jarring at first I imagine.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 10, 2014, 01:57:18 PM
Amaterasu Ult-Evo is a Healer(Heals you, not the type), and an Attacker Type. Golly.  :derp:
x3 Attack and Massive Heal. THIS MIGHT BE THE BEST ATTACKER LEADER YET, NEXT TO D.META.

And no all I need is a skill-up fodder for Sleeping Beauty, and thanks to that added dark sub-att will be able to replace Lilith.
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Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2014, 02:55:50 PM
So sometime between last night and this morning, Balance 2 was enabled on NA servers
aw yiss

mother fuckin

ISIS BUFFS
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Post by: Chaore on December 10, 2014, 03:38:56 PM
aw yiss

mother fuckin

ISIS BUFFS

...I don't see isis getting buffed though :v

More notably, colored valks are begining their ascent to brokenness, elementals are useful, dragon swordsmen and fairy tales are buffed,  and orochi is a beast.

Oh and I guess ame no chokezume is slightly better. (i guess running her with shiva is less awful now. wtb shiva buffs)
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Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
she gained a few stats here and there :derp:

she gets back the attack she loses from uevoing and she now has exactly 800 RCV when maxed which is cool BV
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Post by: Chaore on December 10, 2014, 03:46:58 PM
she gained a few stats here and there :derp:

she gets back the attack she loses from uevoing and she now has exactly 800 RCV when maxed which is cool BV

oh i forgot tha HOLY SHIT LAKSHI GAINED SOME STATS, DANG.
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Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2014, 04:11:44 PM
apparently DOUBLE ORB ENHANCE is being considered???

oh boy time to invest in +orb awakenings


also Max Murai actually appears in this year's Youtube Rewind thing :V
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Post by: Edible on December 10, 2014, 04:17:53 PM
also Max Murai actually appears in this year's Youtube Rewind thing :V

wat
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2014, 04:33:01 PM
So I had been following this guy for a while, and after about a month (and apparently a lot of stamina refreshes) he got 10 Shynpy (Non-IAP).

Fed every single one to his Ama with no regrets. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qg55cRkTk0)
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Post by: Suikama on December 10, 2014, 04:34:40 PM
wat
yep it's actually him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKx2B8WCQuw#t=1m24s)
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 10, 2014, 05:01:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9HYgZNDl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9HYgZND.jpg)

:toot:
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Post by: Espadas on December 10, 2014, 05:42:10 PM
Cleared for the first time Sacred Mask Legend and Goddess Mythical (1 stone used because of ***** demons in wave 4....)
Got enough stones for one roll in the Silver Rem..... Shaitan >_>

I'm seriously considering buying a bunch of stones and spam them until i get at least one between Sasuke, Marine Rider, FA Luci..... (not that i would mind others among the available drops)
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 10, 2014, 06:08:09 PM
I rolled the Husband machine and got a Green Wee Jas.

He's so old, though... >.<
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 10, 2014, 06:27:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/enGqKJo.jpg)
So I hadnt finished my run of this last night.  Went for the keeper. Got so much more.

I'd call that a good run.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 10, 2014, 07:58:02 PM
60% might as well be 0%.

But I'm three tamas away from free masks
(http://i.imgur.com/vUqgKgul.jpg) (http://imgur.com/vUqgKgu)
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 10, 2014, 08:59:02 PM
yep it's actually him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKx2B8WCQuw#t=1m24s)

I think I see Kosuke there too.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 10, 2014, 09:40:58 PM
<Chirei> yeeeee boiiiii

(http://i.imgur.com/1O18127.png)
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Post by: Chaore on December 10, 2014, 10:33:46 PM
yep it's actually him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKx2B8WCQuw#t=1m24s)

Oh wow, this year's was so bad I didn't even notice.

We're moving on up boys! :v
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Post by: Edible on December 10, 2014, 10:40:47 PM
WORLD FAMOUS WHALE BRIGADE
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Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2014, 01:08:27 AM
aw yiss time for ruins of the star vault

pretty much the best dungeon in the game
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Post by: Edible on December 11, 2014, 01:09:44 AM
aw yiss time for ruins of the star vault

pretty much the best dungeon in the game

It's also time for egypt 2.0 godfest apparently

Or rather it will be this weekend???
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Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2014, 01:29:00 AM
yeah i noticed egypt 2.0 is translated on pdx now

but knights arent wtf gunghooooooooooooooooooo
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Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2014, 05:26:19 AM
Aw, no orb out of five Goddess runs. Gathering up my ultimate Valkyrie materials is going slower than I had hoped. And I would feel weird about throwing away Valkyries, so I'm skilling up a second white Valkyrie for basically no reason. Can't think of a situation where I would want two of those, except maybe some kind of really bizarre Kali build maybe.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 11, 2014, 05:38:46 AM
yeah i noticed egypt 2.0 is translated on pdx now

but knights arent wtf gunghooooooooooooooooooo

I thought they said knights were already in at 1x rates or something like that.
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Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2014, 06:35:22 AM
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/542923153660334080
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/542923505927340032
https://twitter.com/pad_sexy/status/542924850780585984

Mini versions of monsters based on a figurine collection, to be included in the Christmas REM.

For Japan, there will be a Christmas event beginning tomorrow.

It features a new Challenge Format - the Descended Challenge, where to get rewards you must 0-stone each Descend listed.

http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141211_d_challenge.html

Dungeons
Hera Rush - Badpy + 10M coins
Devil Rush - Shynpy + 2000 Pal Points
Wadatsumi - Woodpy
Izanami Mythical - Bubpy
Hera-Ur Mythical - Flampy
Mephisto Mythical - Badpy
Hera-Beorc Mythical - Shynpy
Beelzebub Mythical - Woodpy
Hera-Sowilo Mythical - Bubpy
Satan - Flampy
Hera-Is Mythical - TAMADRA with +3 HP/ATK/RCV (+9)
Cauchemar Legend - Queen Gold Dragon
Goemon Legend - Queen Metal Dragon
Takeminakata Legend - 2000 Pal Points
Hera - 2M Coins

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Post by: Thaws on December 11, 2014, 06:52:34 AM
http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/141211_d_challenge.html

Dungeons
Hera Rush - Badpy + 10M coins
Devil Rush - Shynpy + 2000 Pal Points
Wadatsumi - Woodpy
Izanami Mythical - Bubpy
Hera-Ur Mythical - Flampy
Mephisto Mythical - Badpy
Hera-Beorc Mythical - Shynpy
Beelzebub Mythical - Woodpy
Hera-Sowilo Mythical - Bubpy
Satan - Flampy
Hera-Is Mythical - TAMADRA with +3 HP/ATK/RCV (+9)
Cauchemar Legend - Queen Gold Dragon
Goemon Legend - Queen Metal Dragon
Takeminakata Legend - 2000 Pal Points
Hera - 2M Coins

Awesome! If these are unchanged from the usual mythicals, I'd be able to clear all but the last two! 2 Flampy,Woodpy,Bubpy, 1 Shynpy,Badpy oh yeaaaaaa :V
...
Is it very likely these descents will be buffed since the rewards are so good  :colonveeplusalpha:

Mini Lucifer's awakenings  :o

Edit:
Quote from: Christmas Event #4
スペシャルレアガチャ「クリスマスガチャ」開催!
期間:12/15(月)00:00~12/25(木)23:59

クリスマスイベント限定!
特別なレアガチャ「クリスマスガチャ」を開催!

「ぷぎゅコレ」になった
「夜刻武神・ミニつくよみ(★5)」を含む
モンスターたちが手に入る、超豪華なレアガチャだ!
しかも、クリスマスverの超キュートな
モンスターも登場するとか?!?


"Moreover, SUPER cute Christmas version of monsters will also appear...!?"

Place your bet guys! Christmas version in Xmas REM confirmed :V
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Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2014, 07:39:59 AM
i'm skipping the godfest but will be rolling the Christmas REM. I want to allocate stones for the XMAS Dungeon.

EDIT:

http://mobile.gungho.jp/maintenance/pad/pua59k000000286b.html
http://mobile.gungho.jp/maintenance/pad/pua59k00000024b2.html

PAD will no longer be playable on versions of Android before version 4.0, and versions of iOS before version 6.0 sometime during February 2015.

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Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2014, 02:01:54 PM
Nooooooo one of my +297 I&I friends hasn't been online in like a week. I'm already friends with all of them that are easily available on PDX, don't know where to get more from. If any of you have one you've been hiding from me, fork it over. :V
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 11, 2014, 02:25:26 PM
Nooooooo one of my +297 I&I friends hasn't been online in like a week. I'm already friends with all of them that are easily available on PDX, don't know where to get more from. If any of you have one you've been hiding from me, fork it over. :V

I have an I&I that's staying B/B till I get more healers.
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 11, 2014, 02:35:00 PM
Commander, have you looked on puzzleanddragonsforum.com?
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Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10846509_1516918368567570_3544102138233916222_n.jpg?oh=ebeeaa8a6444819008abf6215219da79&oe=54FD12A2&__gda__=1426617755_0678c3a41584b9916e8f65086941011d

Santa Claus of the Holy Night, Hera

real data to be announced on proper stream tomorrow at 8PM JST

EDIT: Info on the Santa Hera is on PDX
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Post by: Edible on December 11, 2014, 03:05:48 PM
Santa Hera <3 (Is that a gundam model?)

Yeah I'm gonna go berserk on this christmas REM :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2014, 03:11:53 PM
Santa Hera <3 (Is that a gundam model?)

Yeah I'm gonna go berserk on this christmas REM :colonveeplusalpha:

no that's zeus dressed in a santa claus outfit
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Post by: Edible on December 11, 2014, 03:16:02 PM
Other side
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Post by: trancehime on December 11, 2014, 03:18:17 PM
Other side

book-shaped gundams don't exist; the closest we got to floating gundam things are Haro and those are spherical
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Post by: Edible on December 11, 2014, 03:25:04 PM
Oh, it's not a gundam model box.

It's a fire mechdragon betelgeuse model box.  :justasplanned:
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 11, 2014, 05:16:38 PM
I thought of a team that miniLuci would be neat on: Robin. Gets the boost from Birdarangs and the three fingers help get that 8 combo :V
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Post by: Chaore on December 11, 2014, 05:25:05 PM
The stones in there represent how many will be wasted by fools trying to roll her :v
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Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
The stones in there represent how many will be wasted by fools trying to roll her :v
but she's a dungeon boss :V


oh yeah with Santa Hera we now finally have a red monster with a significant gravity

that just leaves green with no gravities whatsoever (aside from the tiny one from doomsday)
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Post by: commandercool on December 11, 2014, 06:27:36 PM
Maxing out Verche was surprisingly painless. Probably spent 4 million gold or less, and that's including one completely wasted instance where I didn't go in.

Commander, have you looked on puzzleanddragonsforum.com?

Nope, but I will now. Didn't even know about it.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 11, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
Decided to try Hera-Is Mythical. Kirin invaded the 2nd round(jerk), she didn't want to die, so she live with 10 health left. I threw a stone and finished her off. Cleared the rest of the dungeon without incident, though I got little lucky on the Legendary dragon(why couldnt invade that guy instead?) Worth? Idk, but I like to think of myself as saving myself from the frustration of getting one later.
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Post by: Chaore on December 11, 2014, 08:45:28 PM
but she's a dungeon boss :V


oh yeah with Santa Hera we now finally have a red monster with a significant gravity

that just leaves green with no gravities whatsoever (aside from the tiny one from doomsday)

MY OFFER STANDS

SHE WILL LITERALLY DRAIN STONES AS HER ATTACK

EACH TIME SHE TOUCHES YOU, NO HP LOST, -1 STONE
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Post by: Suikama on December 11, 2014, 08:47:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/QhHIlyB.jpg)


next is a permadeath boss who deletes your monsters with every attack
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Post by: triangles on December 11, 2014, 09:02:28 PM
But will we get Satan Claus Descended too this is the question.
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Post by: Edible on December 11, 2014, 09:09:48 PM
Speaking of never letting hera touch you, I got to use Force today for the first fucking time in like a year :V

Umiyama/Umiyama/Blodin/LMeta/Orochi/Umiyama on Hera-IS mythical, zero stoned it despite four turns of no dark orbs after the delay on the boss.
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Post by: Espadas on December 11, 2014, 11:45:47 PM
I didn't think there could be something more frustrating than skilling Echidna...... i was wrong.

Who had the bright idea of giving AT BEST 15% drop chance in Dragon in Motley? 7 runs 1 drop, and i also must consider myself lucky since that single pierdra gave me a skill-up.....
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 12, 2014, 01:21:24 AM
Hey Trifruit. I don't need you to drop the blue fruit seven times in a row. Nor do I need five green fruits.

I just need a red fruit thank you kindly.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 12, 2014, 01:36:58 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/QhHIlyB.jpg)


next is a permadeath boss who deletes your monsters with every attack

Starting with your leaders  >:D
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Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2014, 01:39:55 AM
After the tiny bit of experience I was getting yesterday from Goddess Descended, Hera-Is seems like it gives too much. Is the four times more experience really warranted? Of the two of them I think Goddess is even harder, if just for the much tougher demon floor. I guess it's a good thing it does though, because I am not having much luck with the orb farming so far this week, so I can use the extra three runs the rankup off of all of this experience will get me.
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 03:06:01 AM
I didn't think there could be something more frustrating than skilling Echidna...... i was wrong.

Who had the bright idea of giving AT BEST 15% drop chance in Dragon in Motley? 7 runs 1 drop, and i also must consider myself lucky since that single pierdra gave me a skill-up.....
Echidna skillups are coming in the next coin dungeon rotation so you'll have plenty to chances to farm her
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 12, 2014, 03:07:49 AM
I'll just leave this here.

https://www.facebook.com/PuzzleAndDragonsOfficial/photos/a.532262196802377.135063.484776928217571/966248296737096/?type=1&theater

For those who don't click:

Egypt 2.0/Indian 1.0/Greco-Roman 2.0 Godfest incoming, 12/13-12/14.

So yeah, they're here.  No word on Armored Knights though.
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 04:07:52 AM
Bluh on top of wood gala too bluhhhhhhh


Oh well at least I just got another py lol
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Post by: Chaore on December 12, 2014, 05:20:58 AM
i'm prolly rolling because i have bad control

want dat lkali.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 12, 2014, 06:29:08 AM
goodbye rank 2xx I never really knew you

(http://i.imgur.com/TiQExdE.png)
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Post by: Dorakyura on December 12, 2014, 10:06:12 AM
Enough playing around, I wanna reroll. :)

Currently is Forest Gala, what would be a good starter for the first pull?

Oh, there is a god fest tomorrow
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 12, 2014, 10:36:14 AM
Godfest is starting soon. If you're rerolling go for Nephthys. You will not be disappointed.
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Post by: Espadas on December 12, 2014, 10:59:20 AM
This is turning into a running gag.... i bought a bunch of stones to add to my reserve since Silver Rem + Godfest + Christmas Rem (maybe) and set myself a limit: no more than 5 rolls on the Silver Rem.

Thanatos, the Dark Elemental
Thanatos
Dark Wizard, Dill Sirius
Jester Wizard, Chester
Archangel Michael

Those are awesome rolls. Awesome! 4 golds out of 5 and I got friggin DARK CHESTER! And yet the very reason i rolled in the Silver Rem were FA Luci, Sasuke and Marine Rider (wouldn't be sad with Neptune/Hanzo/Gabriel).....


I can safely bet my left arm that tomorrow in the godfest i'll roll something fantastic that i obviously WASN'T looking for.....
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Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2014, 11:01:33 AM
GungHo JP Stream starting.

Will post details later assuming people don't beat me to the punch!
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Post by: Chaore on December 12, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
they just destroyed hera with superman leads, two lei sirius, and maxed pulseneeedles

i guess i know my new goal

edit: MECHA REM

ALSO 3D WAIFUS

IT'S VS2, NOW RUN BY TERRIBLE SQUEENIX GRAPHICS

MECHA FUCKING REM THOUGH
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Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2014, 01:02:09 PM
New Dragon Series - Donburi Dragons.
Known: Azure Donburi Dragon Hatsupou

New monsters
1. New numbered dragon? Numbered dragon fusion with Defoud as base?
2. New monmusu?
3. New Zaerog uvo. Looks suspiciously like Mewtwo fused with Zaerog.

Rogue Dungeon release date - Spring 2015

New monster - Osiris' little pet become a new monster

Additional PAD Figurine Chibis - Mini Ronia, Mini Valk, Mini Lilith, Mini LMeta, the other Mini Chinagirls.

New Santa Monsters - Santa Kirin, Santa Genie

they just destroyed hera with superman leads, two lei sirius, and maxed pulseneeedles

i guess i know my new goal

edit: MECHA REM

ALSO 3D WAIFUS

IT'S VS2, NOW RUN BY TERRIBLE SQUEENIX GRAPHICS

MECHA FUCKING REM THOUGH

Yep, Kosuke showed off his Rei Sirius System in a previous YouTube video, he used it to demolish Hera Descended.

The MechaREM is for PADBT V2
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Post by: commandercool on December 12, 2014, 01:24:32 PM
Sometimes PAD's mobile-ness and my (which is to say, I assume everyone's) job are not friends. I have a meeting early this morning, so I went to bed early last night. Still hadn't gotten a white orb, so I set an alarm to get up when my stamina got to fifty, enter Hera-Is, and go back to bed. Did so, first floor was Sakuya. Excellent. Unfortunately I probably won't actually have time to do the dungeon until my lunch break around 1PM, when I'll have been capped on stamina for several hours. I guess stamina is cheap these days, and I don't really have anything better to do today. Still, mobile games, why you gotta battle everyone's schedule?
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Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
Awakenings;

Mini Ronia - 2 Red Rows, 2 Dark Rows
Mini Valk - 3 TPA
Mini LMeta - Bind Immune, 1 TPA, Light Orb Enhance
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 01:39:00 PM
[23:02] <Edible> God
[23:03] <Edible> I'm probably  going to spend money getting these chibi pad things in game
[23:03] <Edible> And then I'm going to spend money getting them irl
[23:03] <Edible> help
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 12, 2014, 02:11:07 PM
Another thing mentioned in the stream: Morning Star now makes three heart orbs on use in addition to the damage. Probably still going to run Grape Dragon in that sort of team anyway, but helpful!

Also I want mini Valk badly ;_;
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Post by: Chaore on December 12, 2014, 02:26:46 PM
fucking santa kirin though

i'm not sure if hate or like
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Post by: triangles on December 12, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
Enough playing around, I wanna reroll. :)

Currently is Forest Gala, what would be a good starter for the first pull?

Oh, there is a god fest tomorrow
If you are playing on the NA server I can give you my sister's Pandora starter account (it's not Candy Crush so despite my trying to get her in...  :fail:) when I see her next sometime this weekend.
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
[23:02] <Edible> God
[23:03] <Edible> I'm probably  going to spend money getting these chibi pad things in game
[23:03] <Edible> And then I'm going to spend money getting them irl
[23:03] <Edible> help
are we even going to get them in na? :ohdear:

also there's a Christmas rem AND a chibi rem? or are they in the same machine?

also jesus christ these chibis some of them better than the originals

Santa Genie is better than the actual genie in every way possible. also chibi thanatos has a dill sirius plushie that's adorable :V

Santa Kirin though seems to be worse. Only 4x attack for 4 specific elements? Maybe if it was 4.5x. Well at least as a healer she's a bit easier to build with Echidna, SQ/Sandalphon, and Valk already covering all the needed colors. Also she's 7 stars so she's Beachmeta tier of impossible to get.

Chibi lewdlith with the double TPA goddamn

CHIBI VALK WITH THE TRIPLE TPA GODDAMN although no god type so she's no use for athena

Chibi chinese girls are fucking cute as hell but those stats are just garbage ouch. They're only a little bit stronger than the original unevoed forms. Regular Kirin is probably the worst thing in this rem because at least the others have board changers. Also for some reason Haku gets a different color subtype although I guess that's because of D/D Haku. Oh wait Kirin does too. All they need now is a L/G Kirin and you can have a terrible all kirin team.

Chibi light yomi is a better light leader than the original lol

Chibi lmeta because we needed another version of her of course. But this one is actually stronger than the real ltron because she has tpa rofl

Speaking of stronger than the original jesus christ chibi ronia with the double rows it's all over

lol chibi luci. 4 luci + anubis the one true dream


also +orb awakening buffs oh yesss. Now we're really talking since a single +orb awakening now effectively gives more than a single row or TPA (since the +orb itself gives damage, having one +orb awakening gives effectively 11.3% extra damage)
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Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2014, 03:18:30 PM
are we even going to get them in na? :ohdear:

also there's a Christmas rem AND a chibi rem? or are they in the same machine?

They're in the same machine. NA has Christmas REM data already.

Anyway.

First DonburiDragon dungeon will have Undine and Muse skillups as random mobs. So that's cool I guess.

EDIT:

Santa Kirin also boost Healer HP and ATK by x1.25, so the net ATK gain is x5 if you do a Healer team. Just for your info.
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 03:23:03 PM
Yeah, it sounds like we might get it not long after the silver rem ends
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Post by: triangles on December 12, 2014, 03:23:18 PM
Oh god I just caught up with the chibimons
AAAAAAAA
2CUTE4ME

Also based on figures, you say?
(http://i.imgur.com/WVvPMWN.png)
WELP looks like I found MJP's birthday gift already it comes out just in time too!
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 03:25:55 PM
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00KWABKQG/

No I think you should buy him this
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Post by: Chaore on December 12, 2014, 03:26:29 PM
Santa Kirin though seems to be worse. Only 4x attack for 4 specific elements? Maybe if it was 4.5x. Well at least as a healer she's a bit easier to build with Echidna, SQ/Sandalphon, and Valk already covering all the needed colors. Also she's 7 stars so she's Beachmeta tier of impossible to get.

about this

there's a secondary condition of hp and attack being boosted by 1.25 for all healer types on the team

so if you run a healer team with her, she's basically better than real kirin by leagues
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 03:30:58 PM
Only 1.25x?

Egypt 2.0 are much better :V

Although I guess Kirin isn't forced to mono element


Also even if you can get one, good fucking luck finding friends for her


As good as the Christmas rem looks I dont think there anything I need. I mean wtf gungho you have new subs for everything but physical types?

Oh wait regular Chinese girls are here too so I guess I can try to get Karin
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Post by: triangles on December 12, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
So it's a special holiday qtpie REM or is it mixed in with the others?
Because if it's the former uh I think Gungho found a way to get all my stones (I've given up hope on getting the FF collab and my team of Moogles  :ohdear:)
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 03:46:22 PM
I found the page for it. It's a special REM (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/xmas2014_gacha.html). It has all the new santas and chibis + all the chinese girls + RGB magician girls

So actually it's pretty amazing since the worst thing you can get are the chibi chinese girls.
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Post by: Chaore on December 12, 2014, 03:48:59 PM
Only 1.25x?

Egypt 2.0 are much better :V

no they literally aren't

that means she literally is normally 5x with the hp boost on pure healer.

what the hell suikama if I have to go through this shit one more fucking time tonight i'm piledriving your waifu

I found the page for it. It's a special REM (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/xmas2014_gacha.html). It has all the new santas and chibis + all the chinese girls + RGB magician girls

So actually it's pretty amazing since the worst thing you can get are the chibi chinese girls is mini lucifer.

also fixed
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
no they literally aren't

that means she literally is normally 5x with the hp boost on pure healer.

what the hell suikama if I have to go through this shit one more fucking time tonight i'm piledriving your waifu

also fixed
welp i thought HP and ATK was a typo for HP and RCV durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

also at least mini luci is a 6 star so he wont show up very often :V
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Post by: Chaore on December 12, 2014, 03:56:31 PM
welp i thought HP and ATK was a typo for HP and RCV durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

also at least mini luci is a 6 star so he wont show up very often :V

i'm not that tired suikama!!!! ;;

also yes, that.
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 03:58:52 PM
i'm not that tired suikama!!!! ;;
apparently i am because pdx said HP and ATK as well and i still read it as HP and RCV
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 04:17:11 PM
Yeah I'm not rolling anymore until the christmas REM, sorry godfest
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Post by: trancehime on December 12, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
i did grimoire descend on legend

boss dropped a chest

fuck sleep
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Post by: Espadas on December 12, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
I get the feeling i'm the only one NOT happy with the chibis....
I understand making them powerful (they are Rem, no one would spend stones if they weren't), but not making them actually BETTER than the originals!

If you want to go that route, make different monsters altogether!
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 05:05:42 PM
I don't think any of them are strictly better than the original. (except Valk lmao)
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 12, 2014, 05:06:26 PM
Don't need to level Zeus anytime soon. Too bad the screenshot doesn't have the twinlits in it. I wanted a devlit :( Now to figure out what to do with that dubmythlit.i I think I'll evolve Prometheus.

As for the chibi stuff, I don't think they're strictly better. As someone who mainly runs Kirin/Athena, I like the original Valk better.
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 05:11:20 PM
He'll probably be evo food for awoken venus if you have her
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Post by: triangles on December 12, 2014, 05:56:59 PM
Stats schmats, the chibimons are adorable and really why else am I playing this game except to have cute things and pull on a golden dragon arm?
I mean this time I'll pull on a dragon with a SANTA HAT (ps it better be wearing a santa hat I'll feel cheated otherwise)
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 12, 2014, 05:59:42 PM
He'll probably be evo food for awoken venus if you have her

I dunno. If Hades is anything to go by, they might do something different for Venus.


Stats schmats, the chibimons are adorable and really why else am I playing this game except to have cute things and pull on a golden dragon arm?
I mean this time I'll pull on a dragon with a SANTA HAT (ps it better be wearing a santa hat I'll feel cheated otherwise)

What if it has antlers and a red nose instead?
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 06:06:39 PM
I mean this time I'll pull on a dragon with a SANTA HAT (ps it better be wearing a santa hat I'll feel cheated otherwise)

(http://blog-imgs-67.fc2.com/m/i/n/minpuzz/GATYA_XMAS_2014121114464064c.png)
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 06:07:31 PM
But doesn't Hades need Dark Zeus?

...oh yeah so if you have Hades then Zeus can be used for him as well :V

also he doesnt need any jewels wtf
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Post by: triangles on December 12, 2014, 06:10:49 PM
(http://blog-imgs-67.fc2.com/m/i/n/minpuzz/GATYA_XMAS_2014121114464064c.png)
3/10 that's like barely seasonal
..
..
...
.....it'll still be 10/10 of eating all my stones though  :ohdear:
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
I just realized Chibi Meta and Chibi Valk have really good synergy for a light healer TPA team with Light Venus and Arc line

Actually the best combination would probably be Chibi Meta, Chibi Valk, Chibi Valk, Arcline, and Echidna.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 12, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
Sounds like a Sitcom family.

Metatron and the twins
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
about this

there's a secondary condition of hp and attack being boosted by 1.25 for all healer types on the team

so if you run a healer team with her, she's basically better than real kirin by leagues
Apparently it's 1.2x not 1.25x

So she's actually 23x which is kinda awkward looking but I guess about the same


holy shit Muse skillup already (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1774)

Rip in pieces Inzanagi, your active skill is beat out by a farmable pot of fish and you will probably never get a skill up monster of your own
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 07:18:10 PM
I guess the joke is that the skillup monsters are off-type themselves

Like that will stop people from using them.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 12, 2014, 07:21:59 PM
Apparently it's 1.2x not 1.25x

So she's actually 23x which is kinda awkward looking but I guess about the same


holy shit Muse skillup already (http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1774)

Rip in pieces Inzanagi, your active skill is beat out by a farmable pot of fish and you will probably never get a skill up monster of your own

Izanagi has about the same cooldown as a max-skilled guy  right out of the package. Seriously with no effort on my part it's 11 turns. He's just like "skill-ups are for scrubs."
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 12, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
Izanagi has about the same cooldown as a max-skilled guy  right out of the package. Seriously with no effort on my part it's 11 turns. He's just like "skill-ups are for scrubs."

Izanagi is also a Light TPA so he matches with Athena with no extra effort. Muse would be horrendously off-element but if you have nothing else you'd use him for her I guess
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 08:09:10 PM
Oh yea for Athena Iza's still better than even Muse.

Still the fish is an easily farmable booster for pretty much anyone. Especially if you're just starting out and most of your resources are just dumped into your Horus/Kirin/whatever leader, this guy will help you get through early stuff with no problems.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 12, 2014, 08:59:46 PM
Noodlefish definitely strong. I wonder if the other four will be skillups for the other knights too...
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 09:01:13 PM
Noodlefish definitely strong. I wonder if the other four will be skillups for the other knights too...

One of them's an Undine skillup apparently.
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 09:05:11 PM
He means the other four elements :V
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Post by: Thaws on December 12, 2014, 09:41:31 PM
Holy crap Santa Sakuya very want
Mini Valkyrie's best home is obviously LKali guys what are you talking about

If Flower Dragons were any indication, the knight skillups are probably fairy-equivalent encounters :V aka questionnaire dungeon baits
gl skill upping

But the boss dragon is confirmed skill up for ZEUS MERCURY lulz
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Post by: Espadas on December 12, 2014, 09:48:30 PM
A question about skill-lock resist awakening: let say i have 2 of those. Does that mean that my entire team have 40% chance of resisting or that every single team member have independent 40%?

Is it possible to have, for example, 2 members bound and 4 that resist, or is an all-or-nothing for all?
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
Holy crap Santa Sakuya very want
Mini Valkyrie's best home is obviously LKali guys what are you talking about

If Flower Dragons were any indication, the knight skillups are probably fairy-equivalent encounters :V aka questionnaire dungeon baits
gl skill upping

But the boss dragon is confirmed skill up for ZEUS MERCURY lulz
shit good point. They have the exact same exp curves too.

alright back to bubpy farming them :V
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Post by: Edible on December 12, 2014, 09:55:39 PM
A question about skill-lock resist awakening: let say i have 2 of those. Does that mean that my entire team have 40% chance of resisting or that every single team member have independent 40%?

Is it possible to have, for example, 2 members bound and 4 that resist, or is an all-or-nothing for all?

The debuff is to your party, not to individual monsters.  So the check to see if you resist the skill bind is only done once.
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Post by: Suikama on December 12, 2014, 10:02:41 PM
The only awakenings that apply to that monster only are Stat Boosts, Two-prong, and Bind-Resistance. Everything else applies to your entire team.


2 stones spent on stamina for hera-beorc runs

0 haku

thanks obama
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Post by: commandercool on December 13, 2014, 04:46:20 AM
Wow, Lil' Yomi is too good. I've gotta intercede before my roommate does any pulls on any other godfests. He usually plays a dark/light attacker team with his Girl Thor and a buddy DMeta, and she seems perfect for that particular weird team. Thor/Finn/Flash/Kanetsugu/Lil' Yomi/DMeta? I wouldn't probably play it, but it's something.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 13, 2014, 05:11:40 AM
uh wow Hera-Ur's dungeon doesn't really have that much HP on anything

guess I'm getting Flame Jewels tomorrow.
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Post by: Zerviscos on December 13, 2014, 05:17:21 AM
I was wondering why Dual Elements in a Monster that has different secondary element from the primary has more atk than a Monster with a secondary element same as the primary.

I just realize a different element does 30% of the base atk, whilst 10% if it's the same as the primary.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 13, 2014, 06:00:52 AM
It's a balancing thing, I guess. Adding 30% maintype would probably be too strong, especially with weaknesses applied. However, separate elements get a boost so they're not horribly weak in general.

Honestly I feel the main point of subelements is for the sake of team-building and having multiple hits on enemies that only take 1 damage, but the offcolor ones do have their uses. Especially when combined with TPAs.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 13, 2014, 06:08:18 AM
Honestly I feel the main point of subelements is for the sake of team-building and having multiple hits on enemies that only take 1 damage, but the offcolor ones do have their uses. Especially when combined with TPAs.

I can vouch for this. Athena's wood TPA-sub hits a lot harder than I sometimes expect, which can lead to accidental floor wipes(for better or for worse).
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 13, 2014, 06:53:13 AM
Actually, I straight-up use Athena's TPA on wood orbs to clean out floors so I can save light orbs for harder enemies. :V
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Post by: Chaore on December 13, 2014, 07:37:45 AM
Actually, I straight-up use Athena's TPA on wood orbs to clean out floors so I can save light orbs for harder enemies. :V

I can vouch for this. Athena's wood TPA-sub hits a lot harder than I sometimes expect, which can lead to accidental floor wipes(for better or for worse).

i do the same with dark on my shiva team admittedly, and theres no tpas involved : v
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Post by: trancehime on December 13, 2014, 07:52:57 AM
But doesn't Hades need Dark Zeus?

...oh yeah so if you have Hades then Zeus can be used for him as well :V

also he doesnt need any jewels wtf

He does need Awoken Gaia though.................... you know, just like I predicted weeks ago
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 13, 2014, 07:55:12 AM
Actually, I straight-up use Athena's TPA on wood orbs to clean out floors so I can save light orbs for harder enemies. :V

It's only unexpected for me because I do the same thing, but only thinking that GZL is the only one who does any notable damage. Sometimes his damage isn't enough and then suddenly Athena cuts in and finishes off the guy that was about to whack me.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 13, 2014, 07:57:17 AM
He does need Awoken Gaia though.................... you know, just like I predicted weeks ago

And now I'm working on making a team that can handle Gaia. Thankfully I don't see anything in his mats that would conflict with what Awoken Venus, should she ever exist, would use, so I may as well work on getting ready for when we get Awoken Hades in however many months it takes for him to get here :V

EDIT: Godfest up. Ares and Set get.
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Post by: Dorakyura on December 13, 2014, 12:41:35 PM
got Nephthys on the second reroll :V cool Leader Skill I guess

new id: 347,957,300
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Post by: Espadas on December 13, 2014, 12:48:17 PM
Guys, bear with me for a second...... *ahem*.....
HOLY CRAP!!!
I just rolled all my stones into the godfest..... and i'm so freaking happy about it!  :]

Naga
Sylph +1

....at this point the game went into "i'm sick of hearing you complain about weird luck rolls so SHUT THE HELL UP FOREVER".....

Shiva +1
Blue Sonia +1
Osiris
Artemis
Indra
Dark Metatron


And even a final cherry on top! Daily bonus gives me 1 Pal roll....... my third Fire Jewel! DANCING QUEEN HERA GETTO!  :toot:

I have a smile on my face atm that could outshine a lighthouse  :D
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Post by: Yukarin on December 13, 2014, 01:34:26 PM
Guys, bear with me for a second...... *ahem*.....
HOLY CRAP!!!
I just rolled all my stones into the godfest..... and i'm so freaking happy about it!  :]

Naga
Sylph +1

....at this point the game went into "i'm sick of hearing you complain about weird luck rolls so SHUT THE HELL UP FOREVER".....

Shiva +1
Blue Sonia +1
Osiris
Artemis
Indra
Dark Metatron


And even a final cherry on top! Daily bonus gives me 1 Pal roll....... my third Fire Jewel! DANCING QUEEN HERA GETTO!  :toot:

I have a smile on my face atm that could outshine a lighthouse  :D

man that was some awesome rolls you got there

now proceed to not get anything on the next godfest because all your luck was spent on this GF
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Post by: triangles on December 13, 2014, 02:11:35 PM
:toot:
Sweet rolls!

BUT NOPE
NOT TAKING THE BAIT
NOPE
WAITING FOR THE CHRISTMAS QTPIE REM.
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Post by: Espadas on December 13, 2014, 03:32:32 PM
:toot:
Sweet rolls!

BUT NOPE
NOT TAKING THE BAIT
NOPE
WAITING FOR THE CHRISTMAS QTPIE REM.

(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4056/4474065261_4f95455a3d.jpg)
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Post by: Suikama on December 13, 2014, 04:08:04 PM
fine i guess ill do a few pulls

>dryad

yeah of course i never get anything good from g-

(http://i.imgur.com/RxtgVPP.png)

what

WHAT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Post by: Espadas on December 13, 2014, 04:11:22 PM
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131029183839/nickfanon/images/f/f0/1367381826397-welcome_to_the_dark_side_answer_1_xlarge.jpg)


Congrats Suikama, that is some serious on-demand rolling skill  :3
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Post by: Edible on December 13, 2014, 04:30:03 PM
Suikama's old sig is coming true :V
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 13, 2014, 04:38:53 PM
Finally, max-skilled Luci. Got two skill-ups on 3 angels via the Chaore method. Not sure what to do with the rest of them though.
Suikama's old sig is coming true :V

Who's left now?
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Post by: triangles on December 13, 2014, 05:15:19 PM
STOP TEMPTING ME
STOP
SOMEONE GO ROLL 6 CUPIDS OR SOMETHING SO I DON'T CAVE
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 13, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
I would, but one I wont be tik Christmas REM, and two, well...

Knowing my luck I'd pull some really crazy stuff again and just make it worse, ehe.
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Post by: commandercool on December 13, 2014, 05:25:04 PM
fine i guess ill do a few pulls

>dryad

yeah of course i never get anything good from g-

(http://i.imgur.com/RxtgVPP.png)

what

WHAT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Ha ha it's like you're me. The REM comes through when it REALLY matters. Best feeling.
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Post by: Suikama on December 13, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
Finally, max-skilled Luci. Got two skill-ups on 3 angels via the Chaore method. Not sure what to do with the rest of them though.
Who's left now?
The B/G armored knight Muse (i guess gungho will introduce them later with a carnival or something)
Orochi
and Bodin/Karin, although the other two are more important. gonna try for karin in the christmas rem
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 13, 2014, 06:12:07 PM
Godfest yoloroll got me lakshmi.

I guess I'm finally managing to make a prototype blue team that isn't a 2/4/2.

Not that that's gonna be a thing anytime soon but y'know :derp:
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 13, 2014, 06:43:43 PM
Godfest yoloroll got me lakshmi.

I guess I'm finally managing to make a prototype blue team that isn't a 2/4/2.

Not that that's gonna be a thing anytime soon but y'know :derp:

Worth noting that Lakshmi also has the most powerful drain skill in the entire game.

also she's cute I guess
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Post by: Chaore on December 13, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
Worth noting that Lakshmi also has the most powerful drain skill in the entire game.

also she's cute I guess

It also enhances orbs now, meaning she also functions as an orb enhancer.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 13, 2014, 08:57:10 PM
Antonio VS Guan Yinping confirmed on the 19th, place your bets
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Post by: Suikama on December 13, 2014, 09:01:49 PM
If he does Master again and doesn't get slapped by Garyou Tensei then he should be fine
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Post by: Chaore on December 13, 2014, 09:27:18 PM
rip antonio

killed by cute
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Post by: Jq1790 on December 13, 2014, 10:12:30 PM
Oh hey. She's healer/phys only, right?  Might have to beat up the peach garden general sometime if she's here now or soon.
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Post by: Thaws on December 14, 2014, 12:04:40 AM
Skill upping Hellball:
31 up 6 -> "Not bad... :\ One skill left!" -> 14 up 0
I even finished skill upping Durga 20 up 5 already...

I feel like insect dragon skill ups are harder to get simply because they're so easy to get... (50stam/each)
>_> (note My sarasvati took 62 up 9)

I'm skill upping the PADBT version of CCD, which is a okay substitute for Hanzo in Pandora teams to pair up with Haku (8cd water->dark)
Feels like everyone in this thread has a Hanzo(s) besides me though. :qq:

Staring at Grimoire descent and Descent Challenges and can't do them yet because of this one stupid hellball skill level.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 14, 2014, 12:53:30 AM
Skill upping Hellball:
31 up 6 -> "Not bad... :\ One skill left!" -> 14 up 0
I even finished skill upping Durga 20 up 5 already...

I feel like insect dragon skill ups are harder to get simply because they're so easy to get... (50stam/each)
>_> (note My sarasvati took 62 up 9)

I'm skill upping the PADBT version of CCD, which is a okay substitute for Hanzo in Pandora teams to pair up with Haku (8cd water->dark)
Feels like everyone in this thread has a Hanzo(s) besides me though. :qq:

Staring at Grimoire descent and Descent Challenges and can't do them yet because of this one stupid hellball skill level.

I am way too lazy to skill things up in JP. Too much work. It's already a pain skilling things up in NA. I got Paulina though, that was cool, now to figure out what to do with her. Maybe I'll toss her into UmiYama, though if she eats my dark/light orbs, I'll be sad.
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Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 01:01:12 AM
I... I think I actually found a use for Chibi Luci

With him and my new Nut sub, I'll have 2 extra seconds of orb movement time, which makes up for the lack of orb movement awakening on Isis herself and gives me the same orb time as a Ra/Horus + Yomi team :3

He's even Dark/Blue which fits on my mono blue Isis team :V

His active is still kind of useless but most of my Dark options don't have very good actives anyways (Bodin/Karin/Hera-Is still not max skilled)

I mean it's not really something to go for but I guess this way if I roll chibi Luci I won't be too disappointed :V
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Post by: Edible on December 14, 2014, 01:09:31 AM
[20:08] <Edible> ... uh
[20:08] <Edible> I wasn't going to roll this godfest
[20:08] <Edible> But I accidentally did because liquor
[20:08] <Edible> sleepign dragon, zhuge liang
[20:08] <Edible> rip
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Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 01:13:22 AM
[20:08] <Edible> ... uh
[20:08] <Edible> I wasn't going to roll this godfest
[20:08] <Edible> But I accidentally did because liquor
[20:08] <Edible> sleepign dragon, zhuge liang
[20:08] <Edible> rip
it's a double whammy because you pay money for alcohol in order to pay money for pad
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Post by: triangles on December 14, 2014, 03:12:40 AM
THE CIRCLE OF LIFE
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Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 04:37:09 AM
so after some more number crunching... i still can't really decide who to use as my dark monster. :derp: Bodin gives amazing stats and skill boosts but the rows are useless and his active is meh. Karin gives a lot of attack but her active clears too many colors and her rcv is terrible. D. Kali would be cool but also kind of silly and really hard to pull. I thought Wadatsumi was a good idea at first, but +orbs don't really do that much unless you group them a lot, and his awakenings are kind of useless aside and skilling him up would be a huge pain. Maybe I'll just stick to Hera-Is, but the lack of skill boosts kind hurts. There's also Chibi Yomi who has za warudo and skill boosts but no water. And of course Chibi Luci for the time up silliness.

I'm also still a bit split on Echidna vs Orochi. Orochi gives the team way more attack, better awakenings, and a potentially devastating delay, but Echidna's delay is still more practical and she has much better RCV. She's also primarily red which is really useful for killing green things.

I really hope Nut's UEVO is Water/Dark since she is the 'Goddess of the Starry Sky'. That way I'm free to put whatever the hell I want as my 4th sub, like ulti Hera-Is for the 7 +orb awakenings and +orb ability would would be great if double +orbs becomes a real thing. Or I could just have Orochi and Echidna for the double delay goodness.

The Isis, Nut, Muse core is pretty set in stone though. One 16x activation with 3 of each color + Nut active is 1 million damage on a 4 turn counter once you factor in the +orb buffs. And that's not even counting TPA or Muse boost or even a full water team.


Well anyways at this point the only thing I 100% need is Muse. I think if the armored knights are introduced in a carnival with x3 rates then I'll roll for him even with no godfest since I don't need any gods as much as him. I'll still poke the Christmas rem I guess since everything in it is at least decent and getting Chibi Luci would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on December 14, 2014, 05:42:00 AM
so after some more number crunching... i still can't really decide who to use as my dark monster. :derp: Bodin gives amazing stats and skill boosts but the rows are useless and his active is meh. Karin gives a lot of attack but her active clears too many colors and her rcv is terrible. D. Kali would be cool but also kind of silly and really hard to pull. I thought Wadatsumi was a good idea at first, but +orbs don't really do that much unless you group them a lot, and his awakenings are kind of useless aside and skilling him up would be a huge pain. Maybe I'll just stick to Hera-Is, but the lack of skill boosts kind hurts. There's also Chibi Yomi who has za warudo and skill boosts but no water. And of course Chibi Luci for the time up silliness.

I'm also still a bit split on Echidna vs Orochi. Orochi gives the team way more attack, better awakenings, and a potentially devastating delay, but Echidna's delay is still more practical and she has much better RCV. She's also primarily red which is really useful for killing green things.

I really hope Nut's UEVO is Water/Dark since she is the 'Goddess of the Starry Sky'. That way I'm free to put whatever the hell I want as my 4th sub, like ulti Hera-Is for the 7 +orb awakenings and +orb ability would would be great if double +orbs becomes a real thing. Or I could just have Orochi and Echidna for the double delay goodness.

The Isis, Nut, Muse core is pretty set in stone though. One 16x activation with 3 of each color + Nut active is 1 million damage on a 4 turn counter once you factor in the +orb buffs. And that's not even counting TPA or Muse boost or even a full water team.


Well anyways at this point the only thing I 100% need is Muse. I think if the armored knights are introduced in a carnival with x3 rates then I'll roll for him even with no godfest since I don't need any gods as much as him. I'll still poke the Christmas rem I guess since everything in it is at least decent and getting Chibi Luci would be hilarious.

I think Nut will get 2 ults, a B/L for daytime Nut, and a B/D for night Nut. I really want to like Wadatsumi, but skilling him up is a pain I don't want to go through. I'm considering him as a situatonal pick in Kirin right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on December 14, 2014, 09:39:36 AM
Skill upping Hellball:
31 up 6 -> "Not bad... :\ One skill left!" -> 14 up 0
I even finished skill upping Durga 20 up 5 already...

This is why I came to complain. Complaining always works. I was thinking okay this is the last dark insect I'm giving to this guy before I start working on grimoire, and he got the skill up.
overall 46 up 7, meh. At least its done. :V

I really hope Nut's UEVO is Water/Dark since she is the 'Goddess of the Starry Sky'. That way I'm free to put whatever the hell I want as my 4th sub, like ulti Hera-Is for the 7 +orb awakenings and +orb ability would would be great if double +orbs becomes a real thing. Or I could just have Orochi and Echidna for the double delay goodness.

Planning for Nut's UEVO already lol You're really putting alot of thought into this. It'd be at least a year though.
Maybe you can hope you get a DMeta someday. 1 turn 35% shield isn't that bad. The orb enhance is useless for you though.

I was thinking Santa Sakuya is probably a hint at how they'll buff Egypt 1.0s when they get awaken ults (in a long time from now but one can dream :V ). Type restrictions are more flexible for rainbow teams than element, but the hp buff would be much smaller, seems much more balanced than Egypts 2.0 (People are saying Hathor is wrecking dungeons even without +eggs or even fully levelled teams wtf).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on December 14, 2014, 10:51:55 AM
JDDJ defeated me..... 21 runs of Dragon in Motley with x2 drop rate gave me 1 skill-up  :fail:

now proceed to not get anything on the next godfest because all your luck was spent on this GF

I hate you, it's already beginning  :V


EDIT for Suikama: i doubt it will help considering the differences but for Karin blue row enhance teams Wadatsumi is the best wild card (if you can stall long enough for the active), trumping even Bodin
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
EDIT for Suikama: i doubt it will help considering the differences but for Karin blue row enhance teams Wadatsumi is the best wild card (if you can stall long enough for the active), trumping even Bodin

Bodin fits the Isis team better because Physical.

Wadatsumi is God/Balanced.

:V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on December 14, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Bodin fits the Isis team better because Physical.

Wadatsumi is God/Balanced.

:V

Switch to Balanced team.
Problem solved.  :V

*avoid flying bricks*


Question: i just dropped both Flammesickle and Phoenix. Should i keep them or feed Krishna/Horus? Flammesickle looks like a good cost-restricted choice (looking at you, Gaia and Tengu  :colbert:)....

Edit: and i'm still bashing my head around how to S rank Flammesickle dungeon.....  :(
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2014, 02:41:48 PM
Switch to Balanced team.
Problem solved.  :V

*avoid flying bricks*

Blue Balanced?

 :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 14, 2014, 03:01:36 PM
Suikama is making a blue-heavy rainbow god team though so the sub-type doesn't really matter :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on December 14, 2014, 03:02:33 PM
Blue Balanced?

 :derp:

Just you wait, soon will be the new top tier team  :derp:


On a completely unrelated note, i just managed to utterly screw my attempt at Zeus challenge mode by virtue of achieving ONE row after Ronia's active... this probably count as my derpiest moment to date..... nice way to waste 50 stamina  :X
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2014, 03:10:20 PM
This just in - ADK and Echidna coin survey dungeons confirmed to have Master difficulties, for anyone doing that.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 04:47:38 PM
Christmas REM is out in Japan and juding by other people's rolls it looks like a trap unless you really like all of the Chibi Chinese girls :derp:

people seem to be getting better results from this godfest than the christmas rem :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 14, 2014, 04:56:52 PM
whelp guess I'm not rolling that anymore

Also this. (http://i.imgur.com/qXOc4QD.jpg)

Ceres used a Mythical Ball.
Gotcha! Kanetsugu was caught!
Kanetsugu's data was added to the Monster Book.
Give a nickname to the Kanetsugu you caught? "Arceus"
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on December 14, 2014, 05:22:05 PM
Christmas REM is out in Japan and juding by other people's rolls it looks like a trap unless you really like all of the Chibi Chinese girls :derp:

people seem to be getting better results from this godfest than the christmas rem :V

I don't know, I'm having a hard looking at this and calling it a bad result.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 05:27:34 PM
I mean yeah they're cute as fuck but not too useful. At first I thought maybe they would be good for low cost conditionals, but 15 cost puts them just outside of Gaia. I guess they can S rank things easily.

Anyways it's probably worth at least a few pulls though since you're almost guaranteed something new and cute unless you already have every chinese and magician girl.

Also I didnt realize chibi Luci is the only triple time awakening monster in the game. (for some reason I thought wee jas had 3) I kind of want him even more now even though I've seen fewer people pull him than Santa Kirin :V :V :colonveeplusalpha:


holy shit the christmas dungeon has giant snowtamadra in the background :3
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on December 14, 2014, 05:36:19 PM
I mean yeah they're cute as fuck but not too useful. At first I thought maybe they would be good for low cost conditionals, but 15 cost puts them just outside of Gaia. I guess they can S rank things easily.

Anyways it's probably worth at least a few pulls though since you're almost guaranteed something new and cute unless you already have every chinese and magician girl.

Also I didnt realize chibi Luci is the only triple time awakening monster in the game. (for some reason I thought wee jas had 3) I kind of want him even more now even though I've seen fewer people pull him than Santa Kirin :V :V :colonveeplusalpha:


holy shit the christmas dungeon has giant snowtamadra in the background :3

I'm thinking about it now, but I don't think he'd be a terrible Kirin sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 05:43:51 PM
and again (http://imgur.com/a/CmZBR) 13 pulls for santa kirin, over a hundred for chibi luci wat :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2014, 05:52:03 PM
So I ran out of Athena friends but still had time left on an hour of alts, and I saw something else where the Athenas should be instead.

Attacker Ama confirmed for super legit

(http://i.imgur.com/POw20u9.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 06:37:31 PM
i just realized Nut can clear poisons and jammer orbs if i dump them all into the left column :V

also christmas rem confirmed a trap (http://www.padpadblog.com/2014/12/246.html) 66% chance of a chibi chinese girl jesus christ
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 14, 2014, 06:54:52 PM
So treat it like any other REM/godfest that you're not particularly interested in: Mandatory one roll for that million-to-one chance you get something useful, then completely forget about it.

That about it?
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 07:03:46 PM
yeah pretty much

unless your one of those collect them all whale types then it's time to fork over $1000 to the gungho christmas fund :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 14, 2014, 07:04:38 PM
More like roll once because everything in there is useful and you can't really lose on the first roll or two.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 07:12:52 PM
oh yeah i guess if you roll a lot and have a bunch of chibi chinese girls you can use them to try to skill up your real chinese girls

it's like farming chasers/jewels with stones, only 5 stones per chaser! :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 14, 2014, 07:31:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jACcMbhl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/jACcMbh.jpg)

finally ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2014, 07:38:42 PM
I don't know if I'm gonna roll on Christmas REM or not. The only things I really want are Yomi and Meta, and I guess Valk. The Chinese are nice, especially for newer players, but I don't think I have a use for them.

Also not sure how many Wind Chasers is enough Wind Chasers. I'm up to 28. I should probably grab at least 30, but I don't know if I need more than that. Might just load up as much as I possibly can for mega-insurance. I wasn't planning on skillmaxing Meimei from the first appearance of this dungeon, since I pulled her half way through, but I have enough of them that I guess I have to go for it now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 08:33:45 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/jACcMbhl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/jACcMbh.jpg)

finally ;_;
How many tries? I ran it once thinking I could get an invade since it's x2 but got nothin. I'd rather run more weekend dungeon for dem coins if her rate sucks.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
Wait, is the next coin dungeon rotation not Mystics Knights Dragon Knights again? Weren't we supposed to get them last time too? I keep planning around this and it never actually appears. Sun Quan hungers.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 08:58:43 PM
Mystic Knights? There's mystic knights in the coin dungeons right now...

I think you meant Dragon Knights :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on December 14, 2014, 09:17:06 PM
Mystic Knights? There's mystic knights in the coin dungeons right now...

I think you meant Dragon Knights :V

Yes. Yes I do. Gimme them,
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 14, 2014, 09:17:35 PM
How many tries? I ran it once thinking I could get an invade since it's x2 but got nothin. I'd rather run more weekend dungeon for dem coins if her rate sucks.

3 runs today, and I think 8 more spread over this past week. (the week before was chaser hunting so :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 14, 2014, 09:25:22 PM
I trust my REM luck. It got me three golds out of three rolls this fest and one of them was LKali. I'll get something cool from the Christmas REM.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 14, 2014, 10:08:42 PM
REM gold egg rates actually seem to be getting better now. I remember back in the day it was like a 40-50% chance for a gold egg during godfests but now it seems to be 60%.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: hyorinryu on December 14, 2014, 10:54:54 PM
REM gold egg rates actually seem to be getting better now. I remember back in the day it was like a 40-50% chance for a gold egg during godfests but now it seems to be 60%.

I remember people used to say the base rate was like 20%.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Espadas on December 14, 2014, 11:08:09 PM
So treat it like any other REM/godfest that you're not particularly interested in: Mandatory one roll for that million-to-one chance you get something useful, then completely forget about it.

Now watch Edible drunk-roll the best drop available with one try.....  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on December 14, 2014, 11:51:46 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/JprRRwO.jpg)

merry xmas mothafuckas :derp:

the chibi haku is MY FIRST CHINAGIRL EVERRRRRRR
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Suikama on December 15, 2014, 02:06:42 AM
NA notice: Tomorrow is the last day for x5 technicals on a monday so if you want to farm +eggs tomorrow is the day

There's also ECO collab which suddenly showed up out of the blue, but it will be up for a whole week so imo +eggs take priority
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 15, 2014, 03:18:59 AM
man what do I even do i mean I'd love to skill up venus but if her awoken form doesn't have CTW, it's all effort wasted

I guess I could give them to Yomi instead
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on December 15, 2014, 05:27:33 AM
Christmas REM:
1x Mini Sonia
1x Mini Karin
1x Mini Meimei

Considering I already have Reiran, Haku and Sakuya, can I say I have the full set of chinese girls now lols :V
I wanted a mini valkyrie... :/ But gold rate is like 30% so I'm done with this REM



(http://i.imgur.com/ksordpM.jpg)
Grimoire Mythical cleared against Fire and Water grimoire with I&I team. so OP :V
Have yet to encounter the wood one so I'm not sure how that'd go.
Wave 1-6 are not a threat with this team though. :)



Grimoire having 3 random bosses seems to be a skill up nightmare,
but then you realize...
(http://i.imgur.com/QfDcIup.png)
You're getting skill ups for Apollo/Gab/Uriel on wave 2, and red/blue/green fairy on wave 3.
Although I only got 1 fairy drop in 3 mythical runs and people have reported the droprate is probably worse than this as the sample size increases, still good if you're doing this along with other skill ups. Grimoires are worth skill maxing anyways.

Edit: Wood grimoire also cleared with I&I team! Simply had to hit through the first half of green hp without using all my skills, until I got to the red hp.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 15, 2014, 10:09:13 AM
the illuminati has been taken down

(http://i.imgur.com/4FQQgaT.png) (http://i.imgur.com/InOEWOe.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on December 15, 2014, 11:29:25 AM
7 Grimoire Mythical runs, 2 Red book, 2 Blue book, 3 green book, exactly in that order. :V

Got 5 Cyclops, 1 Cockatrice, 1 Minotaur from wave 2. This is so unbalanced lol

Only 1 Blue fairy dropped from wave 3, out of 7 runs.
So, like Noah, this won't be a good source of fairies, but if you're skilling up Grimoires, you'd get some fairies along with it.

Red book 1 up 1
Green book 2 up 1
Apollo 5 up 1

Yay.

This descent has some pretty nice rewards.



Wat.
Christmas Genie's SS preview on the livestream showed her max skill cd is 11 turn, but it was actually 15 turn and they were going to reduce it in the next update.
So as an apology everyone gets a free stone and they'll update the active cd for the elementals today.

But here's the thing:
All players who have pulled a Christmas Genie before 5pm JP time on today (12/15) will get all their stones spent on Christmas REM back

did not roll a genie. sad. :V

Edit: The reason why they're taking such an extreme measure may be due to how it's illegal to have advertised something in the gacha to be better than it actually is.
However, the ones that actually aimed for Genie but did not get one is not getting any compensation ???
Those whale ppl that rolls thousands of stones to get the complete set of Christmas REM must be really happy right now.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: trancehime on December 15, 2014, 12:18:13 PM
https://twitter.com/DaikeYamamoto/status/544460820264935425

Here's the tweet from YamaP regarding Santa Genie.

Some people have indeed already responded to the tweet -
狙って出なかった人にはなんで無いの?? People who tried to roll for Santa Genie don't get anything?
狙って出なかった人にはどう対応なさるおつもりですか? Do you plan to support those who tried to roll for Santa Genie?
コラ画像を作ってツイートしたことが問題なんですよ まあツイ消ししてるみたいですけど Damnit if there was an error in the image you tweeted you should have deleted it
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Edible on December 15, 2014, 05:48:35 PM
The US server did that once, where a godfest was up but it wasn't actually set to godfest rates, so they refunded any stones used during that time.

Kirin team still obliterates satan, but I'm not realyl sure why I'm running this - I don't really need a green jewel or satan himself.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on December 15, 2014, 09:45:23 PM
JP also had mistakenly advertised muracore to start earlier than scheduled in the in-game ad and had to refund stones to those who rolled before it started.

But this time is a different matter though.
Since they already fixed the cd on Genie yesterday, theoretically, those who got a Genie expecting 11cd has no loss, those who didn't get a Genie expecting 11cd has no loss either.
The only thing is that there was a period of time that there were people holding 15cd Genies when they advertised 11cd Genies, so these people have the right to sue Gungho for false advertisement or something.
Gungho is probably most afraid of this, thus the full refund for anyone that held a Genie before they fixed the cd on 5pm.

However, people are jelly at people with Genies obviously, and it's definitely not a "fair" compensation since I doubt anyone actually aimed for Genie :V It's as Yamamoto said on his tweets: "Those who didn't have a Genie by 5pm are not considered in the compensation policy, as they had no actual loss." (17時までにサンタジーニャを入試されていない方は、実質損害がないと考えていますので、個別補填は検討しておりません。) This decision doesn't make sense nor is it fair, it is only made from the perspective of a company preventing lawsuits. So the only difficult thing here is how to end this nicely to keep PAD's public relations and reputation.

My understanding on this incident after reading stuff on fb pages and forums.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 15, 2014, 09:59:52 PM
Useless anecdotal stuff nobody asked for, but I felt like sharing anyway: (tl;dr 0 mythlits, 6 +eggs)

(http://i.imgur.com/krrDf4Ll.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/krrDf4L.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/wHZ33dfl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/wHZ33df.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JXE5FLkl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/JXE5FLk.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Xga8aZ7l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/Xga8aZ7.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9BxWJLol.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9BxWJLo.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/yKLuPwFl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/yKLuPwF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/JBvhNiul.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/JBvhNiu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/GPvljNzl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/GPvljNz.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/CH7kknJl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/CH7kknJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/mk9rV6ql.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/mk9rV6q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/zg7Qi0Al.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/zg7Qi0A.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/9hEI2kel.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/9hEI2ke.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IqrYfg6l.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/IqrYfg6.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 15, 2014, 10:34:26 PM
i feel your pain. I spent like two days' worth of stam last Wednesday and Thursday trying to get a Dub-Mythlit from Goddess in Paradise and despite multiple ones showing up during individual rounds, none of them dropped.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: commandercool on December 15, 2014, 10:52:11 PM
Jesus Thaws, your I&I team is identical to my team except my guys are in different roles and one of my I&Is is Beyzul instead.

I've actually had pretty good rates of getting Dub-Mythlits from Starlight Sanctuary. There aren't many floors, but they seem to show up often and the experience cost is low.

I've never had much success getting evo materials of any kind to drop from technical dungeons. I think the drop rates are too low, the appearance rates are too low, and the number of different possible rare encounters is too high (if that even makes a difference, maybe it doesn't but I  can't remember ever seeing two different rare drops on one floor). Today it's probably worth fishing for them anyway because of the +egg thing, but usually evo materials from the main body of the technicals is a trap.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 16, 2014, 02:45:16 AM
[20:28:45] <rdj522> So do you think I should run more of the low-level technicals and try to find mythlits, or wait for Friday and just do ECO for now?
[20:29:27] <Chirei> hmmm
[20:29:34] <Chirei> any challenge modes you haven't cleared?

(http://i.imgur.com/0KEE1Bgl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/0KEE1Bg.jpg)

Clearly I just wasn't multitasking hard enough. One more and then I can Endless Corridors a bit to see if I'm ready for Christmas.
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 16, 2014, 03:09:50 AM
What is this I don't even.

So tempted to stone but I know it doesnt' work that way.

(http://i.imgur.com/8X8gPVrl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/8X8gPVr)
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2014, 03:49:56 AM
So over 200ish runs of no flampy drops, I get two of them in back-to-back runs(check timestamps). The second one spawned on wave 1 with a high metal, that fucker.

(http://i.imgur.com/zJyZvC7.png) (http://i.imgur.com/Jr9u0Hs.png)

Also I began this at the start of Rotation 3, but some anecdotal statistics for alt. dungeons for anyone who's interested here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mZeZxf4q_skC7zJ003MQCZXzgcPHRgardne804gywAQ/edit?usp=sharing).
Title: Re: Puzzle and Dragons Thread 15 - We represent the Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop (ry
Post by: Thaws on December 16, 2014, 04:40:32 AM
Jesus Thaws, your I&I team is identical to my team except my guys are in different roles and one of my I&Is is Beyzul instead.

Which means you'll have an awesome I&I healers team when you pull one, and you'd be able to clear most mythical descents with it. :D
Also means we're both Hatsume refugees ;-;
Ruka was really worth the investment I put into the pink REM. Saved me so many times with the bind recovery and heartmaking.

Also I began this at the start of Rotation 3, but some anecdotal statistics for alt. dungeons for anyone who's interested here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mZeZxf4q_skC7zJ003MQCZXzgcPHRgardne804gywAQ/edit?usp=sharing).

wow.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 16, 2014, 04:47:12 AM
It cost me two stones, but I now have another green jewel for when God Valk lands. But then again, if I can manage to get a Christmas Valkyrie from the (NOW CONFIRMED!) Christmas REM, I'll just save it for something else because that triple TPA is to die for. :P
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Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2014, 04:49:22 AM
Which means you'll have an awesome I&I healers team when you pull one, and you'd be able to clear most mythical descents with it. :D
Also means we're both Hatsume refugees ;-;
Ruka was really worth the investment I put into the pink REM. Saved me so many times with the bind recovery and heartmaking.

I can already clear most mythical descends. And I suspect nearly all of them once I get my last few skillups in place and at least Valkyrie gets her final evolution, if not Sun Quan as well at some point. And I don't really want a Hatsume. What would you replace on your team for her?

You're right about Ruka. I honestly didn't think I'd use her over Siren at first, but she's amazing. The bind recovery comes up way more often than I would have guessed. It's extremely underrated. I got lucky and got mine on the second pull though, so I didn't really have to invest much (aside from the tons of time spent on skillups).
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2014, 05:07:34 AM
wow.

I started this because I called foul (unless some info was conveniently left out) on the jp statistics picture, since some alt dungeons have pengdra and whatnot and therefore all the data for at least plus eggs can't be universal for all of them. I have data for some of the other dungeons but this one is the one I've run most extensively. Not sure if I'll do this as hard on Rotation 4 since the exp rewards probably won't be as lucrative and the setup might be harder.
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Post by: Suikama on December 16, 2014, 05:26:16 AM
wow so instead of calling them chibis gunho na just made thier names all lower case wat

also i max leveled +200'd Nut and put her up if anyone wants to play with an egypt 2.0 :V
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Post by: Thaws on December 16, 2014, 08:02:52 AM
I can already clear most mythical descends. And I suspect nearly all of them once I get my last few skillups in place and at least Valkyrie gets her final evolution, if not Sun Quan as well at some point. And I don't really want a Hatsume. What would you replace on your team for her?

You're right about Ruka. I honestly didn't think I'd use her over Siren at first, but she's amazing. The bind recovery comes up way more often than I would have guessed. It's extremely underrated. I got lucky and got mine on the second pull though, so I didn't really have to invest much (aside from the tons of time spent on skillups).

tbh you're right. I used to think I need a hatsume because that's what everyone say is the perfect blue healers team but once I got my Ruka skilled up and tried the team with her, I feel like I don't really need hatsume anymore. Can usually stall back valkyrie's skill after using it in early waves and Gabriel's active is my solution for tough mid-bosses just before bosses now.
And yea, they put loads of binds in descent nowadays, and binds is really tough to simply wait out of with hp boost leaders like Gabriel and I&I...
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 16, 2014, 08:42:41 AM
wow so instead of calling them chibis gunho na just made thier names all lower case wat

Also the Japanese versions of all of 'em are hiragana instead of katakana for the actual name-y part of the names (like the Leilan, Lilith, etc.) and instead of kanji/hiragana mix or katakana* for the entirety of the leader skill name. :3

*I wouldn't be shocked if there's at least one leader skill out there that has all three writing systems in the name but it's not any of the ones involved here. :V
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Post by: Espadas on December 16, 2014, 10:43:23 AM
/facepalm..... so nice to discover the hard way that the suggested team i was trying to use for Challenge Mode "Omniscent, Omnipotent Creator" DOESN'T WORK at the very last step :matsuriscowl:
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Post by: Edible on December 16, 2014, 01:10:01 PM
Oh man, christmas REM tomorrow

Oh man :V
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Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2014, 02:00:24 PM
And yea, they put loads of binds in descent nowadays, and binds is really tough to simply wait out of with hp boost leaders like Gabriel and I&I...

The important part for me was realizing how many of those binds are random. I feel like conventional wisdom is that the bind removal awakening isn't that useful because it doesn't do anything if the monster that has it gets bound, but binds that hit the whole team or everything of one color are actually fairly rare.
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Post by: Suikama on December 16, 2014, 02:03:29 PM
*coughisismasterracecough*
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Post by: Edible on December 16, 2014, 02:05:44 PM
Holy bananas, ~SUPERBLESSED~ has some extremely awful stuff in it.
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Post by: Suikama on December 16, 2014, 02:08:47 PM
yeah bring some poisons

hera herself though isn't bad
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Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2014, 02:10:20 PM
Oh cool, here I was like "Man, I suddenly need a ton of Dub-Emelits, I don't want to have to wait until Friday". And I'm stockpiling every Dub-Topalit that drops from that dungeon so I never have to farm them again.
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Post by: trancehime on December 16, 2014, 02:11:43 PM
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hera herself though isn't bad

just don't get overconfident

Oh cool, here I was like "Man, I suddenly need a ton of Dub-Emelits, I don't want to have to wait until Friday". And I'm stockpiling every Dub-Topalit that drops from that dungeon so I never have to farm them again.

I have way too many dub-topalits from that dungeon. i swear.
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Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2014, 02:16:32 PM
All those Topalits should make actually evolving the spoils from Tamadra Village a lot more viable.

Speaking of which, what kinds of results have you guys been seeing from Tamadra Village. Apparently my roommate ran it yesterday and he reported six adult Tamas in six runs. That sounds a lot better than I had been hearing at first. Apparently there are adult Tamadra invade floors that are fairly common. Has that been anyone else's experience, or did he just get exceptionally lucky?
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Post by: Suikama on December 16, 2014, 02:22:47 PM
anyone know what's the drop rate on the snowglobes? I'd imagine it's super low...
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Post by: Edible on December 16, 2014, 02:27:23 PM
Very low even on superblessed, yeah
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Post by: trancehime on December 16, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
anyone know what's the drop rate on the snowglobes? I'd imagine it's super low...

Py-tier IIRC

Noels only drop on Legend+, Present Eggs are py-tier on Expert+
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 16, 2014, 04:28:20 PM
Holy bananas, ~SUPERBLESSED~ has some extremely awful stuff in it.

I need mythlits for precisely that reason, to see if I can evo and level a certain monster that's been collecting dust in my box to deal with them.

Reminds me that I should tackle Polar Night Tower today since apparently PF says it's good for those...
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2014, 06:08:32 PM
From the videos I've seen, it looks like the equivalent of fishing for Py in alt dungeons, except it's even worse because you have a pretty high chance of getting a dublit EVERY SINGLE WAVE, and you might even get up to four. Treants and Pixies are also pretty common as well. I'd probably try to get some kind of defense-lowering method+fast orbchange instead of poison, because it won't help against Treants and you may get dubbies on wave 1, which is an instant game over if you're orbscrewed.
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Post by: Espadas on December 16, 2014, 06:28:20 PM
Speaking of alt. dungeons, PDX doesn't have data on some of them about exp or gold..... For those of you that farmed them, are they all like Alternate Castle of Satan, trumping even KoG for Exp/Stam?

Edit: urgh, just checked Christmas dungeon..... did they really have to put basically every single dangerous/annoying mechanic together?
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
Speaking of alt. dungeons, PDX doesn't have data on some of them about exp or gold..... For those of you that farmed them, are they all like Alternate Castle of Satan, trumping even KoG for Exp/Stam?

If you notice in one of my screenshots, it says I got over 27000 exp for one run, and PDX only lists the upper bound at 26000, which is obviously now false. This means the exp/stam ratio is actually even higher than 1035 per stamina, which already shits on King of the Gods.

So yes, it's pretty much the best dungeon in the entire game for general purposes, if you can beat it consistently. I gained about 50-60 ranks from farming 250 runs of it in the entire time that rotation was up.

What PDX also doesn't tell you is that high gold dragons drop 75000 coins when you beat them here, and it is possible to get two (haven't seen more than that) in a single run, and if they both drop and you sell them from your box, this is over 250,000 coins from one run. The cost to open the dungeon for an hour is 1,000,000. For reference, I can do a run in slightly under 5 minutes on average, so I can get anywhere from 10~13 runs out of the hour. This is a maximum possible gain of about 3,250,000 coins, meaning I actually profit. Not to mention all the fodder being really high level let me get a lot of the guys in my box to level 99 or close, so I don't even run super kings or king carnival anymore. This got out of hand extremely fast and I abused it to the absolute maximum.

All of the above is also not even considering the fact that Flampy can drop in there.
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Post by: Suikama on December 16, 2014, 08:05:19 PM
oh damn you're actually higher rank than me now :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2014, 08:14:28 PM
oh damn you're actually higher rank than me now :V

:V

Also I just tried BlodinXNut using yours, I have no idea why people are saying she is hard to use, I could trip the 5 combos every time without using her active.
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Post by: commandercool on December 16, 2014, 08:22:17 PM
Yeah, five combos is easy. Even I can do that relatively consistently.
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Post by: Chaore on December 16, 2014, 08:46:47 PM
:V

Also I just tried BlodinXNut using yours, I have no idea why people are saying she is hard to use, I could trip the 5 combos every time without using her active.

Five combos is still easy to fumble on, which is the problem given the mediocre output.

Overall her problem is it's stupid strict for honestly low benefit.

also 'It's easy for me!' does not mean everyone, notably including those of poorer skill -and especially newer players-.
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Post by: Edible on December 16, 2014, 09:00:23 PM
3/1.35/1.35 isn't anywhere approaching "low benefit" imo.

And 5 combos for 3x is in line with most other combo gods.
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Post by: Chaore on December 16, 2014, 09:21:13 PM
3/1.35/1.35 isn't anywhere approaching "low benefit" imo.

And 5 combos for 3x is in line with most other combo gods.

it is, but it has no upper floor unlike the bastets and Kushi.

That's kinda important, as I'm sure you've noticed yourself when whiffing a big combo (and honestly what makes bastet, and what you were championing for an increase to for ages ;v).

The Hp/Rcv is fine, it's basically a free 2x with two nuts, except... nah. Nope! Not feeling it, sorry man, opinions.

Also that's a different conditional altogether really.
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Post by: Thaws on December 16, 2014, 09:43:40 PM
How I see it is that Nut is not bad at all, but it's more for newer players that can't do 6 combos and use Osiris.
It's kind of like how Isis was before her uevos and active buff, she was easy to use but why use her when with just one more colour you can get 16x with Horus.

Though blue teams do have the option of using BlOdin for rows and 5 combo for nut means you can still manage to make 2~3 rows while satisfying the LS condition, to make up for the low multiplier to one-hit bosses.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 16, 2014, 09:55:51 PM
Though blue teams do have the option of using BlOdin for rows and 5 combo for nut means you can still manage to make 2~3 rows while satisfying the LS condition, to make up for the low multiplier to one-hit bosses.

Now that one is gonna require practice for me, and actual blue orb makers who I really need to level >>
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Post by: Chaore on December 16, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
How I see it is that Nut is not bad at all, but it's more for newer players that can't do 6 combos and use Osiris.
It's kind of like how Isis was before her uevos and active buff, she was easy to use but why use her when with just one more colour you can get 16x with Horus.

isis' ease of use is nowhere near comparable to nut.

and Osiris isn't really comparable to horus either.

i also find it super hard to suggest new players use any of this pantheon with the pulls they're likely to have honestly, because theres -always- better pulls you could make use of for your box.
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Post by: Thaws on December 16, 2014, 11:27:37 PM
isis' ease of use is nowhere near comparable to nut.

and Osiris isn't really comparable to horus either.

i also find it super hard to suggest new players use any of this pantheon with the pulls they're likely to have honestly, because theres -always- better pulls you could make use of for your box.

You misunderstood me.
I'm saying Nut to Osiris is how pre-uevo Isis was to Horus.
Yes, Isis was much more consistent at 3 colours 9x, but with some practice many could handle 4 colours 16x to use Horus, so Isis was completely overshadowed by Horus. It was a time where your friend-list would be filled with Horus and no Isis even if you're not playing Horus. What the UEVO did successfully is to differentiate them both by making Isis one of the best anti-bind leaders and Horus with low recover high hp.

Right now it's even worse for Nut because 1.They practically has the same active skill 2. you can't be orbtrolled with combo leaders, so you can't really say Nut is more consistent like how Isis is to Horus.
So good players can consistently do 6 combos has no reason to choose Nut over Osiris when given the choice.

:qq: I still don't have an Egypt 2.0 so I can't say much, but I can imagine them making life for newer players easier, because they'd easily have a high hp team even without much levelling. And more end-game players, a team can easily reach 35k~40k hp without much +eggs. I can't see how that's not good at all.
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Post by: Edible on December 17, 2014, 02:47:43 AM
Chaore, please keep the vitriol to a minimum.
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 17, 2014, 07:18:40 AM
Not sleeping apparently has its perks.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZVEXdqhl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ZVEXdqh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/4hN63vHl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/4hN63vH.jpg)

Now to offload all this fodder and go beat up Ceres until a dubmythlit falls out, and then it's testing time.

EDIT: what the heck game was staying up later than usual all I had to do

(http://i.imgur.com/igLDtW5.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/igLDtW5.jpg)
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 17, 2014, 07:46:11 AM
 well that sucked (http://imgur.com/MuAqw7t)
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Post by: trancehime on December 17, 2014, 08:14:58 AM
It only took 9 fucking runs! (https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/545098060481560576)

i also find it super hard to suggest new players use any of this pantheon with the pulls they're likely to have honestly, because theres -always- better pulls you could make use of for your box.

The HP/RCV buffer gives players more margin for error if they fuck up their combos. Still, x9 is alright and hardly worth bashing considering people still use Ronia/RoBu who is x6.25/x7.5 respectively. Granted, the subs for Ronia/RoBu teams generally tend to be intrinsically stronger so you can get away with the lower multipliers, but that's being a bit too harsh on the pantheon. ESPECIALLY when P&D is literally "get godlike rolls or suffer." I would have LOVED Nut when I first started out, but instead I got Bastet so yeah gg, my evolved Nut is gonna not see use until I make that Blue Physical team or some shit. :v

I mean my point is. if newer players get Nut and they don't have the luck to pull better shit because they are non-iap. They haven't got much of a choice anyways.

EDIT 2:
https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/534515908249530368/photo/1
this was from last month when I decided to test out Nut. My subs were quite frankly garbage at the time; I still had 17000 HP with just 1 Nut. Imagine if I had a 2nd Nut instead of Karin lol
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Post by: Thaws on December 17, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Remember when Indra was the laughing stock of PAD along with Vritra?

Well the recent series of buffs gave Indra two skill bind resists (Along with skill boost and time extend!) and for the current Descent challenges he's helped me clear Hera Beorc and Izanami by stacking up 5 total skill bind resists and trivializing the 10-turn skill bind in these descents! (Izanami now has light iza on wave 5 and dark iza on wave 6, if you get skill binded your life will be hell on wave 6.)
The only regrets I have is that I didn't give it my all when Light Insect was here, so my Indra's only at skill lv4.

(http://i.imgur.com/ymr91r7.png)(http://i.imgur.com/zlsyj0G.png)
*note first image the team was Bastet/Indra,GreenValk,Sasuke,Kushi/Bastet for 100% skill bind resist

Only three descents left for me! Wadatsumi, and the two rushes. I've done Wadatsumi before so I'm sure I can do it again. Not sure how to approach the rushes at all.
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Post by: Dorakyura on December 17, 2014, 11:24:48 AM
It only took 9 fucking runs! (https://twitter.com/trancehime/status/545098060481560576)

You can only get her in a dungeon?
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Post by: Espadas on December 17, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
Isn't Vritra STILL a laughing stock?  :V


On an unrelated note: apart from Super Tiny Alma, are the other drops from ECO dungeon worth keeping for low-cost descents? They are cute as hell but my box is quite full and i would keep them only for clearing those -censored- Gaia/Tengu/Xuanzang etc...

Looking around in PDX's suggested teams seems like Flame Chaser is the go-to leader for all the cost-restricted descents...
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Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2014, 01:35:16 PM
Is it weird that the Christmas dungeon goes up at noon PST today instead of at the beginning of the day like usual? I can't remember that ever happening before. Does it and I just never noticed?
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 17, 2014, 01:47:53 PM
I think it's happened with a few god fests. Ima yolo this afternoon then go full whale this evening
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Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2014, 05:11:50 PM
Shit I forgot we weren't on double skillups and fed some Wind Chasers aaaaaah. Well, there went a decent chunk of my surplus chasers. I'm 1/10 so far, but three of those weren't actually on boosted rates.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 17, 2014, 05:39:19 PM
Remember when Indra was the laughing stock of PAD along with Vritra?


I thought only Vritra was a laughing stock. As leader, Indra might not have been the best, but his active always seemed pretty good to me. They just didn't want to release skill ups for it for some reason.
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Post by: Edible on December 17, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Indra didn't have great typing or stats, and his leaderskill sucked, and then his ult evo was underwhelming, and then his awakenings were awful.  His active has always been pretty good.

They updated his leaderskill, fixed his awakenings, and gave him skillups for the active, so now he's quite good, but it's understandable that he wasn't exactly desirable back in the day.

Vritra still kinda sucks though.  His active has synergy with AA Luci teams and his awakenings are good, at least.
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Post by: Mr. Sacchi on December 17, 2014, 07:13:08 PM
Hey guys so as a heads up coin dungeons have dragon plant infestation in the rotation now which means free stone for 15 stamina and 500k coins

dunno if it came in before but it's useful if you're one stone short of rolling on the christmas rem
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Post by: Chaore on December 17, 2014, 07:16:07 PM
Remember when Indra was the laughing stock of PAD along with Vritra?

No, I only remember edible telling me he was getting an ultimate and it was going to be sweet.

Nonetheless, I never leveled him. :v

I thought only Vritra was a laughing stock. As leader, Indra might not have been the best, but his active always seemed pretty good to me. They just didn't want to release skill ups for it for some reason.

Hyorin has it in one, Vrita has long been one of the worst cards in the game, but Indra was just...mediocre. Not really that interesting or usable at times, and as time went on he didn't age well. Much like the greco romans and such on.

His ascent to power seems pretty great, but fuck skilling him up. God damn.

Isn't Vritra STILL a laughing stock?  :V

On a different level. He's ascended from 'sell for gold' to 'okay replacement', really.

His awakenings and active change have incredibly favored him, even if I think there's better options most of the time.

I could honestly see use for him at times, compared to the old days.
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 17, 2014, 07:25:31 PM
No, I only remember edible telling me he was getting an ultimate and it was going to be sweet.

Nonetheless, I never leveled him. :v

Hyorin has it in one, Vrita has long been one of the worst cards in the game, but Indra was just...mediocre. Not really that interesting or usable at times, and as time went on he didn't age well. Much like the greco romans and such on.

His ascent to power seems pretty great, but fuck skilling him up. God damn.

On a different level. He's ascended from 'sell for gold' to 'okay replacement', really.

His awakenings and active change have incredibly favored him, even if I think there's better options most of the time.

I could honestly see use for him at times, compared to the old days.

If he were green people would have been all over him if you ask me. Even before the buffs, people were using him in Kirin as an on-color Kushi. Vritra on the other hand, even in Luci, I think a Gravity does more effective damage and doesn't require you to blow Luci to not do less than a ripper nuke. The buff was a okay, but think I would still take Dragon Shogun over him.
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Post by: Edible on December 17, 2014, 07:28:06 PM
No, I only remember edible telling me he was getting an ultimate and it was going to be sweet.

oh god ;_;

HOW COULD THEY GIVE HIM AN ULT THAT'S BASICALLY WORSE THAN HIS EXISTING FORM
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 17, 2014, 08:06:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lN6CcXbl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/lN6CcXb.jpg)

game you have been suspiciously generous lately what are you planning
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Post by: Suikama on December 17, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/lN6CcXbl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/lN6CcXb.jpg)

game you have been suspiciously generous lately what are you planning
wat
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 17, 2014, 08:07:46 PM
Mini karin get. Rdj is amazing
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Post by: Chaore on December 17, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
oh god ;_;

HOW COULD THEY GIVE HIM AN ULT THAT'S BASICALLY WORSE THAN HIS EXISTING FORM

They...what?

Edible, please.

Edit: Also, Mini Karin, Mini Lei, and Laila get.

I have all the china gods now don't tell me otherwise.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2014, 08:11:51 PM
I got leilan and haku. It figures that the game would do that for my first pull.
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 17, 2014, 08:25:28 PM
I got mini Lilith. That Beelzebub TPA team that I was thinking about now has a 1.5x devil enhance.

God dammit who do I even replace at this point between DQ Hera, Byakko, Vector Finn and Persephone?
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Post by: triangles on December 17, 2014, 08:37:33 PM
So I just rolled the Christmas machine and(http://i.imgur.com/mnnkyut.jpg)
and what the what I thought it was just Christmas qtpies not the regular ones ???

Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/O4Nyp2g.jpg)
rofl
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2014, 08:43:21 PM
the danger is real guys watch out

(http://i.imgur.com/k7fgvbk.png)
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Post by: Suikama on December 17, 2014, 08:44:32 PM
I got mini Lilith. That Beelzebub TPA team that I was thinking about now has a 1.5x devil enhance.

God dammit who do I even replace at this point between DQ Hera, Byakko, Vector Finn and Persephone?
Pretty sure it's hera. Everyone else is an orb changer which is pretty much the best thing you can get nowadays thanks to all of the awakening buffs while Hera's gravity is pretty outdated for burst teams.

I mean I guess beelz is sorta a stall team(?) but still
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on December 17, 2014, 08:52:54 PM
and what the what I thought it was just Christmas qtpies not the regular ones ???

Naw it's also got regular Chinagirls and RGB wizards sadly. Though even those aren't too disappointing. :V
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2014, 08:59:32 PM
wrekt
(http://i.imgur.com/cZOTob3.png)
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Post by: The Greatest Dog on December 17, 2014, 09:00:14 PM
Pretty sure it's hera. Everyone else is an orb changer which is pretty much the best thing you can get nowadays thanks to all of the awakening buffs while Hera's gravity is pretty outdated for burst teams.

I mean I guess beelz is sorta a stall team(?) but still

6.25 attack isn't quite Athena's 9x, and Lilith's 1.5x isn't quite Izanagi's 2x. I might really need that gravity in the long run, especially if Lilith's HP falls short (I'm sure it will) but everyone is useful overall to warrant keeping.

Zeus Stratios, on the other hand, brings monstrous HP, a gravity, and two TPAs so I might end up packing him.
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Post by: MatsuriSakuragi on December 17, 2014, 09:05:58 PM
Pulls so far:
mini meimei
mini kirin
all grown up Meimei

Also got Santa Hera on my first try in Blessed and almost beat SuperBlessed if I hadn't fucked up my final attack. Oops.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2014, 09:34:57 PM
Just missed the S-Rank on SuperBlessed by 94 points. If only I hadn't gotten that single 5-combo.
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Post by: Edible on December 17, 2014, 10:03:48 PM
SuperBlessed, more like you gotta be superblessed to beat it.

My first try, I got two dublits with a two-turn cooldown three turns in a row.  I had enough skill boosts to have Lilith up on turn 1, so the first two rounds weren't a problem, but I wiped on round 3.

My second try, I got a chimera and a pengdra, so I just stalled until all my skills were up and murdered the rest of the dungeon.

Two pulls (so far) outta the christmas REM - got lil' haku and another lil' haku.  I'LL TAKE 'EM.

They...what?

Edible, please.

Vritra's regular leader skill is 2x atk to gods/dragons.  Vritra's old ult evo leaderskill only applied to dragons (though it also added 2x hp).  It was one of the few uses for vritra at the time (since 2x atk for all gods was pretty decent for farming and such) so it was considered by many to be a downgrade.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 17, 2014, 10:22:30 PM
Just got a new phone today so I hope I can play with you all today. I'll give out my friend code when I'm done trying to play around with it since I'm not used to touch screening on a phone yet. >_< I've been watching this thread for some time so I know a few things, but try to do my own style.
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Post by: Dorakyura on December 17, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
Lvl 1 Holy Night Santa Claus, Hera get :V

took me only 3 runs on easiest mode lol
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2014, 10:31:01 PM
Lvl 1 Holy Night Santa Claus, Hera get :V

took me only 3 runs on easiest mode lol

wow u a cheetah
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Post by: triangles on December 17, 2014, 10:37:52 PM
Now THAT is ~superblessed~
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Post by: commandercool on December 17, 2014, 10:38:24 PM
Christmas dungeon cleared. Superblessed is doable with my team provided I don't get greedy with my actives or extremely unlucky. Even multiple synced 'Lits should be okay because of my orbchangers and delay, but accidentally sweeping at the wrong time and getting two trees in a row would very likely kill me. I need two Dub-Emelits and the game won't give me any. In fact it's been dropping very few Dublits of any kind, but that just means more Jewel Pengdras I guess.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 17, 2014, 11:37:05 PM
Hey guys is Radious a good roll or should I save scum again because my first pull was a Toyceratops?
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Post by: Edible on December 17, 2014, 11:39:29 PM
Hey guys is Radious a good roll

Not really, no
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 17, 2014, 11:40:45 PM
Hey guys is Radious a good roll or should I save scum again because my first pull was a Toyceratops?

I had to look up what that was.

My advice - save scum the christmas REM and get one of the (gold egg) chinagirls. They are all super solid.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 17, 2014, 11:49:25 PM
I'm doing the rare egg machine tutorial is why I asked, I just got my new phone today so I decided to play this game due to I was tired of being left behind the hype. I already know what I want to roll for it's just my luck is bad. Thank you for the advice I'll give another yell if I need help with more things.

Is Manadrake good?
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Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 12:28:59 AM
Vritra's regular leader skill is 2x atk to gods/dragons.  Vritra's old ult evo leaderskill only applied to dragons (though it also added 2x hp).  It was one of the few uses for vritra at the time (since 2x atk for all gods was pretty decent for farming and such) so it was considered by many to be a downgrade.

Ah.

I forget much from that era because I just kinda did things back then. (So about whaling for chiyome during a fest...)

I'd say overall for that time the x2 hp is very useful though.
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Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 12:34:17 AM
Is Manadrake good?
nope it's probably one of the worst things you can get :V
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Post by: commandercool on December 18, 2014, 12:36:50 AM
What kind of niche do you guys think Santa Hera has? I've got to decide between feeding some extras to her to awaken her or just cramming them in blue Hera.

I'm doing the rare egg machine tutorial is why I asked, I just got my new phone today so I decided to play this game due to I was tired of being left behind the hype. I already know what I want to roll for it's just my luck is bad. Thank you for the advice I'll give another yell if I need help with more things.

Is Manadrake good?

Mandrake is not a good pull. But I think grinding up a Christmas REM roll and seeing what that is is more important than your actual REM roll right now. Ironically you're probably best off if you get a Chinese god, which is the thing everyone else is trying not to get from that machine. If you can take the time to run a few dungeons, get five stones, and see how the Christmas REM treats you I recommend doing it.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 18, 2014, 12:37:40 AM
nope it's probably one of the worst things you can get :V
Thank you one of my other friends just told me the same thing but in a more "You can get this monster later terms." *save scums again* I can see why everybody rages on this game it's because of the rolls.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 12:37:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/ewOAsUhl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ewOAsUh)

(http://i.imgur.com/hgR337I.png) (http://imgur.com/hgR337I)
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Post by: Bio on December 18, 2014, 12:45:38 AM
When do you plan to become a whale lord?
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 12:46:06 AM
Thank you one of my other friends just told me the same thing but in a more "You can get this monster later terms." *save scums again* I can see why everybody rages on this game it's because of the rolls.

By the way, if you need a quick response, there's an irc channel #puzzleandlibrarians that you can get a more immediate response to on the motk network. Probably saves more headache instead of making a new post per pull.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 12:50:45 AM
When do you plan to become a whale lord?

Maybe if I ever stop spending thousands of dollars on animu art.
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 18, 2014, 12:52:28 AM
By the way, if you need a quick response, there's an irc channel #puzzleandlibrarians that you can get a more immediate response to on the motk network. Probably saves more headache instead of making a new post per pull.
May I please have a link to it I don't mind learning more really.
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Post by: Moogs Parfait on December 18, 2014, 12:55:52 AM
Here's the webchat link

https://webchat.ppirc.net/?channels=puzzleandlibrarians
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 18, 2014, 12:56:53 AM
Here's the webchat link

https://webchat.ppirc.net/?channels=puzzleandlibrarians
Thank ye kindly I'll be quietly learning not to rage.
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Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 01:19:34 AM
1 roll chibi sakuya

i guess she can clear low cost stuff? sorta not really because gaia is 14 lol
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Post by: hyorinryu on December 18, 2014, 01:21:43 AM
1 roll chibi sakuya

i guess she can clear low cost stuff? sorta not really because gaia is 14 lol

There's always Xuanzang.
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Post by: OverlordChirei on December 18, 2014, 01:28:09 AM
There's always Xuanzang.

XZ and Hrungnir can be battled with chibis since they're all 4*.

If nothing else they can be slotted in for extreme orb enhance/active bomb power at the cost of stats.
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Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 01:33:04 AM
I already have koryu for the kirin gravity :V

Already beat hrungnir, although I think I still need to clear XZ legend even though I already have both drops :V


Maybe I'll pull more. I still have 100 stones because I managed to pull Nut in just two pulls, although I still do need to save for Muse (gungho pls)
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Post by: Chaore on December 18, 2014, 01:34:15 AM
1 roll chibi sakuya

i guess she can clear low cost stuff? sorta not really because gaia is 14 lol

also she's cute

this is the only way i'm justifying this laila roll tbh so repeat it forever

it works

I already have koryu for the kirin gravity :V

Already beat hrungnir, although I think I still need to clear XZ legend even though I already have both drops :V


Maybe I'll pull more. I still have 100 stones because I managed to pull Nut in just two pulls, although I still do need to save for Muse (gungho pls)

you have fucking what

i mean i saved 80 for supes but jesus, just blow it here, muse'll be around forever
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Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 01:37:00 AM
I need orochi too bluh

arg goddmit gungho why did you make this whole rem so cute aaaaaaaaaa
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Post by: Suikama on December 18, 2014, 01:44:48 AM
Oh yeah we're at 1000 posts I guess it's time for a new thread?
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Post by: MewMewHeart on December 18, 2014, 01:52:32 AM
Wait before you do... 310.157.312 is my ID
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Post by: Janitor Morgan on December 18, 2014, 01:53:25 AM
THREAD BIND (Binds Thread-type monsters for a number of turns)

choo choo I'm a train

I'll just edit your ID into the first post of the new thread, no worries.