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Title: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Menorah Jams, Pham on August 13, 2009, 12:15:44 PM
If we rule out ORT from the beginning, which universe would win?

Feel free to cheer/jeer your ideal matchups (Archer vs. Yukari, Saber vs. Youmu, Marisa vs. Rin - Master Spark vs. the Zelretch Sword) but this, IMHO, would be one kickass battle.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Nachtwanderlied on August 13, 2009, 12:39:48 PM
i think goku would win because  spirit bomb is pretty powerful
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on August 13, 2009, 12:56:28 PM
Nanaya/Tohno Shiki can kill Kaguya repeatedly. Fact
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Sodium on August 13, 2009, 12:58:54 PM
They all band together to kill the TC for making this topic.

Flawless Victory.

/topic
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: shadowbringer on August 13, 2009, 01:38:18 PM
Cave and Raizing would win

like I said before, there's little information on the canonical limitations of Touhou characters, and there's also the spellcard system (which encourages people to not endanger the opponent's lives). And I don't feel like encouraging a powerlevel thread, since due to that lack of information, there can't be a discussion based in facts.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Mima on August 13, 2009, 01:44:30 PM
Type Moon sucks badly, Touhou wins by default.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Bias Bus on August 13, 2009, 02:47:05 PM
Type-Moon

Because it's sooooo complicated.

Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Helepolis on August 13, 2009, 03:30:33 PM
Type Moon sucks badly, Touhou wins by default.

Thread winner.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Kuma on August 13, 2009, 05:52:58 PM
I don't know type moon so i will pretend that you meant Astro Boy.
I dunno, man. I think the Touhous would put up one hell of a fight, but Astro'd win in the end. They'd all be freinds and have a tea party though.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 13, 2009, 06:25:15 PM
Type-Moon

Because it's sooooo complicated.



Shiki can kill boundaries, discuss
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: LordVant on August 13, 2009, 07:02:57 PM
Kanako would use her godly powers to destroy type moon. Just as soon as they move the shrine close enough
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Letty Whiterock on August 13, 2009, 07:52:35 PM
Type Moon sucks badly, Touhou wins by default.
Mima, I love you in the most homosexual and heterosexual ways I can, but I'm gonna have to say no on this one.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Menorah Jams, Pham on August 13, 2009, 08:28:17 PM
Shiki can kill boundaries, discuss

This gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Bias Bus on August 13, 2009, 08:33:43 PM
Shiki can kill boundaries, discuss

This gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap
Yukari's an eyesore.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Gpop on August 13, 2009, 09:00:36 PM
Shiki can kill boundaries, discuss

This gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap this gap

/me gaps a chair and Nitori
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Nine West on August 13, 2009, 09:18:08 PM
/me gaps a chair and Nitori

* In before The Chair

Touhou have crapload more characters, so if those two universe are going to fight, the former will have the upper hand, in my opinion. Also, Touhou characters should try to actually use their abilities rather than shooting Danmaku all the time.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Garlyle on August 14, 2009, 01:26:40 AM
It would all depend on limitations.

If working under the Spellcard system, only a couple Type-Moon characters would probably be capable of even fighting at all - notably Archer and his Unlimited Blade Works.

If not, it's... tough to say.  It's been hinted that a few Touhou characters would be godly powerful if not playing by spellcard rules - as Spellcards have to be, in theory, dodgable, so many have to tone down their powers.  Lets not forget things like Yuyuko's ability to instantly kill a person.  But Type-Moon characters can be pretty bullshit ridiculous too.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: theshirn on August 14, 2009, 03:03:09 AM
It's funny how Yuyuko breaks powerlevel arguments before Yukari even has to get involved.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 14, 2009, 03:09:22 AM
It's funny how Yuyuko breaks powerlevel arguments before Yukari even has to get involved.
Hell, you could break stuff with Yamame even.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: shinyjam on August 14, 2009, 03:14:29 AM
It's funny how Yuyuko breaks powerlevel arguments before Yukari even has to get involved.
Yuyuko is easy to explain. Yukari would need multiple conceptual explanation to replicate what Yuyuko can do.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Blackraptor on August 14, 2009, 05:36:00 AM
I think the more important question is...how long till Shiki and Shirou score with all the girls in Touhou?
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Bias Bus on August 14, 2009, 05:38:51 AM
I think the more important question is...how long till Shiki and Shirou score with all the girls in Touhou?
Shiki has a better chance since he has the Tohno Gland going for him.

Shirou...eh, not so much.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Zengar Zombolt on August 14, 2009, 05:40:32 AM
I think the more important question is...how long till Shiki and Shirou score with all the girls in Touhou?
You'd need an arc for every singe one of them.
So... a lot of time.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Moerin on August 14, 2009, 05:46:42 AM
I think the more important question is...how long till Shiki and Shirou score with all the girls in Touhou?
Shiki has a better chance since he has the Tohno Gland going for him.

Shirou...eh, not so much.

Shiki would get half of the girls with his Tohno gland.  Shirou would get the other half out of sheer manliness alone.

(http://i28.tinypic.com/2pr65qs.png)
I mean seriously, look at those eyebrows!  Manliness all the way~

Also Nine Lives > Seventeen Dissection.  Totally~
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Bias Bus on August 14, 2009, 05:55:09 AM
Okay, I retract my above statement.

Also is dat sum BMW? I should seriously get around to playing that.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Kojiremi on August 14, 2009, 06:04:33 AM
Lol a few days ago-actually yesterday i think. Erebus, Theo and I were talking about this

If we rule out ORT from the beginning, which universe would win?

said few days ago i said Flandre vs. Ort would be a great battle as they are both immensely destructive. hahah.  I'm sure they could go toe-to-toe together.
Heck I bet Flandre would make ORT her pet spider or something XD haha ahhh hilarious. go to the basement and see a colossal spider or something. 
 
Plus i had this a long long time as well.

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa11/kojiros/REMILIAVSARCUEID.jpg)

MAnipulation of Fate vs. Manipulation of Reality. sounds promising to me mates haha


(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa11/kojiros/YOUMUUSESTSUBAMEGAESHI.jpg)
Youmu vs. Assassin?
(that's his move she stole...i think Youmu is pulling a Marisa on us haha)
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Blackraptor on August 14, 2009, 06:30:10 AM
Or the duel to end all duels...ZUN vs Nasu? Who would win in a deathmatch?!
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on August 14, 2009, 06:38:53 AM
zun will win with BEER.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: _Zac_ on August 14, 2009, 09:30:30 AM
/me gaps a chair and Nitori

* In before The Chair

Touhou have crapload more characters, so if those two universe are going to fight, the former will have the upper hand, in my opinion. Also, Touhou characters should try to actually use their abilities rather than shooting Danmaku all the time.
If Touhou characters actually used their powers...

Suika's manipulation of density = instant kill against anything
Yukari's manipulation of borders = instant kill against anything
Remilia's manipulation of fate = instant win
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Hououin Kyouma on August 14, 2009, 09:38:41 AM
As much as I love Touhou. I would say Type-Moon would win because: they overall have better characters, better character development, better story, the music is good as ZUN's, I can actually finish a type-moon game while I can't finish a touhou game so yeah...... but I still love ZUN better than the type-moon people together
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Nachtwanderlied on August 14, 2009, 01:20:51 PM
admit it, the only reason you guys like tsukihime is because of the godawful so bad it's good plot and porn
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on August 14, 2009, 05:31:21 PM
troll alert..

move on from there.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Menorah Jams, Pham on August 14, 2009, 05:52:40 PM
I hope they make an anime out of Tsukihime one day
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on August 14, 2009, 05:57:07 PM
u and me both brother.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 14, 2009, 06:31:55 PM
I see two trolls above me b&n please.

there is no Touhou anime tho. (excluding that doujin attempt.)

also, Tsukihimay animu is acceptable, 3/10 watchability.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on August 14, 2009, 06:33:36 PM
THERE IS NO ANIME U FAGGOT
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 14, 2009, 06:36:07 PM
THERE IS NO ANIME U FAGGOT

disregard that I suck cocks.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Moerin on August 14, 2009, 06:36:45 PM
THERE IS NO ANIME U FAGGOT

There was a Tsukihime anime.  It was just... Bad, that's all.  Why can't people accept this and just move on?
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on August 14, 2009, 06:43:29 PM
Tsukihime Anime = Rin Satsuki.


That is the truth.

there never was and never will be.

Dun make me hurt you.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Legacy|iB on August 14, 2009, 06:48:17 PM
THERE IS NO ANIME U FAGGOT

There was a Tsukihime anime.  It was just... Bad, that's all.  Why can't people accept this and just move on?
...but that's the point and the punchline of the joke. The anime was bad, therefore fans prefer that it never happened.

A bit like what some Touhou fans do in regards to the Touhou doujin anime by SOUND-HOLIC.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Moerin on August 14, 2009, 06:49:34 PM
Tsukihime Anime = Rin Satsuki.


That is the truth.

there never was and never will be.

Dun make me hurt you.

So Rin is real then! (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tsukihime-Lunar-Legend-Vol-1-DVD/dp/B0009HJCHQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1250275647&sr=1-2)  Yay~!

Seriously, it's a stupid meme.  Denying the existence of something just because it was bad is counterproductive, anyway.

THERE IS NO ANIME U FAGGOT

There was a Tsukihime anime.  It was just... Bad, that's all.  Why can't people accept this and just move on?
...but that's the point and the punchline of the joke. The anime was bad, therefore fans prefer that it never happened.

A bit like what some Touhou fans do in regards to the Touhou doujin anime by SOUND-HOLIC.

TPSS was awesome, just admit it.  In a "so bad it's good" kind of way, anyway...
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 14, 2009, 06:54:12 PM
TPSS was like 'and then, john was the demons' meme.

It was indeed so bad... so fanfiction, so... I dunno what happened trainwreck the mere thought brings a smile to my face.
Watching it was like watching Touhou fans jerking off, it was like... damn, what the hell is this shit? Yet, you can't help but slap your face and smile.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: flurk on August 16, 2009, 05:57:20 PM
didn't read anything in this thread, but i think the hierachy is as follows:

shiki > yukari > every other touhou > every other type-moon
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Alfred F. Jones on August 16, 2009, 06:03:46 PM
Ryougi > everything.

Why are we even having this discussion?
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Letty Whiterock on August 16, 2009, 09:14:33 PM
Ryougi > everything.

Why are we even having this discussion?
This. Exactly this.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Moerin on August 16, 2009, 09:15:59 PM
Ryougi > everything.

Why are we even having this discussion?
This. Exactly this.

Indeed~

Well, it's far more feasible than an anemic physical wreck killing everyone, for one thing...
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 17, 2009, 03:07:48 AM
Ryougi > everything.

Why are we even having this discussion?
This. Exactly this.

Indeed~

Well, it's far more feasible than an anemic physical wreck killing everyone, for one thing...

Satsujinki would like to have a word with that slut who shares the same name as he once before.

He kills realities for breakfast, take that.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: flurk on August 17, 2009, 07:24:59 AM
akasha > all.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: WRATHIE_Beatrice on August 17, 2009, 11:44:49 AM
Benny1 wld agree with me.

Akiha in seifuku>Akiha> G.Akiha >everyone else
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Letty Whiterock on August 17, 2009, 04:07:19 PM
Benny1 wld agree with me.

Riesbyfe>Akiha in seifuku>Akiha> G.Akiha >everyone else
Agreed.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: stassy on August 20, 2009, 03:51:02 AM
Comparing 2 Gods is comparing their followers. In the holy war days of the Comicket 76, "the domination of Type-moon has been defeated by the combined powers of Touhou & Miku plush dolls and Reimu nendo." (aka their lines were greater than TM's but only if added) according to Canned Dogs sources.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Hououin Kyouma on August 20, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
Quote from:        
"(Fate/Stay Night is like) God coming out and ejaculating on to your screen"
Quote from:                
"(Fate/Stay Night is like) Code geass R2 + Haruhi combined"

This proves that Type-Moon is better than AWESOME
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2009, 08:24:20 AM
I don't even know what Type moon is.

But I've always disliked "fictional thing vs fictional thing" topics. Trying to apply logic to fantasies that not only are fictional, but often mock reality is...Well...dare I say dumb? I don't mean to offend anybody but that's just how I see it. Even if it wasn't fantasy, and if it was logically sound. I thought people grew up the "my dad can beat up your dad" phase at like the age of 5. What's wrong with people!

But I'll attempt to join in with this silly debate.
"Flandre can wtfpwn those nubtard type-moon scrubs by herself ".
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Hououin Kyouma on August 20, 2009, 08:28:55 AM
I don't even know what Type moon is.

But I've always disliked "fictional thing vs fictional thing" topics. Trying to apply logic to fantasies that not only are fictional, but often mock reality is...Well...dare I say dumb? I don't mean to offend anybody but that's just how I see it. Even if it wasn't fantasy, and if it was logically sound. I thought people grew up the "my dad can beat up your dad" phase at like the age of 5. What's wrong with people!

But I'll attempt to join in with this silly debate.
"Flandre can wtfpwn those nubtard type-moon scrubs by herself ".
I highly doubt that because type-moon has crazier characters than Flandre
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Moerin on August 20, 2009, 08:32:24 AM
I highly doubt that because type-moon has crazier characters than Flandre

Type-Moon has the Night of Wallachia.  I rest my case~
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: ♛ Apher-Forte on August 20, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
But Flandre is just a crazy girl, Wallachia is an out of style actor gone insane.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2009, 08:50:41 AM
But Flandre is just a crazy girl, Wallachia is an out of style actor gone insane.

In Touhou, girls are gods.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Moerin on August 20, 2009, 09:05:43 AM
But Flandre is just a crazy girl, Wallachia is an out of style actor gone insane.

In Touhou, girls are gods.

Just so you know...

Zepia Eltnam Oberon, AKA The TATARI, AKA The Night of Wallachia, or just Wallachia for short, is an immensely powerful vampire.  Due to the effects of his Reality Marble (also called The Night of Wallachia), he exists as a rumour, and so cannot actually be killed.  He appears wherever rumours begin gathering, manifesting as the embodiments of people's fears (in Melty Blood, this pretty much means half the casts superpowered evil sides) until he gains enough power to manifest in his true form.  The only way he can be killed is when the Red Moon shines on him, temporarily reverting him to his original form and making him killable.  The next Red Moon isn't scheduled until about a millenium from now, so... Yeah.

...At least, that's what I gathered from my various sources.  I could have a few of the details wrong, but it's the basic gist of what he can do.  Oh, and there are many Type-Moon characters that are (apparently) as, if not more, powerful than him.  For example, Gilgamesh has access to every legendary weapon ever in addition to his own, unique weapon, Ea, Sword of Rupture, which rips holes through space-time and is the only weapon in the whole setting classified as "Anti-World".

...But I'm rambling now.  Hopefully you get the basic point here.  Type-Moon can be just as ludicrously broken as Touhou.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2009, 09:27:25 AM
But Flandre is just a crazy girl, Wallachia is an out of style actor gone insane.

In Touhou, girls are gods.

Just so you know...

Zepia Eltnam Oberon, AKA The TATARI, AKA The Night of Wallachia, or just Wallachia for short, is an immensely powerful vampire.  Due to the effects of his Reality Marble (also called The Night of Wallachia), he exists as a rumour, and so cannot actually be killed.  He appears wherever rumours begin gathering, manifesting as the embodiments of people's fears (in Melty Blood, this pretty much means half the casts superpowered evil sides) until he gains enough power to manifest in his true form.  The only way he can be killed is when the Red Moon shines on him, temporarily reverting him to his original form and making him killable.  The next Red Moon isn't scheduled until about a millenium from now, so... Yeah.

...At least, that's what I gathered from my various sources.  I could have a few of the details wrong, but it's the basic gist of what he can do.  Oh, and there are many Type-Moon characters that are (apparently) as, if not more, powerful than him.  For example, Gilgamesh has access to every legendary weapon ever in addition to his own, unique weapon, Ea, Sword of Rupture, which rips holes through space-time and is the only weapon in the whole setting classified as "Anti-World".

...But I'm rambling now.  Hopefully you get the basic point here.  Type-Moon can be just as ludicrously broken as Touhou.

I'm not disputing that. As I said I know nothing about Type-moon. Mokou can't be killed, and sakuya can manipulate time. Or whatever, I'm SURE that type-moon characters have similar powers as well, not like time manipulation is very original, nor is "can't be killed except" is very original either. Oh snap, what happens now. My larger point is such disputes are just plain silly, not to mention they are basically full of what-ifs and un-proveable theories based on imaginations that differ from person to person.

Frequently when I go on some web-based community, you'll inevitably see "superman vs batman". I don't even know WHY people make such topics, because everyone always says superman "duh batman isn't even a superhero, he's just a talented worthless hu-mon". I like to feed the trolls so to speak by saying "yeah but in the TV series, batman would have "anti-superman cryptonite repellent" in his utility belt JUST as he needed it. WHAT THEN HUH. Is it logical to assume he does have it, or not? In the show he always had some useless for 99.9999% of the entire earth population's lifetime tool that just so happened to be perfect for his current situation. But One could also "logically" claim that why would he need an anti-hero device when superman is a good guy and so is Batman...or whatever.

Anyway, I think I've already rambled my point more than anybody cares to read so I'll probably shut up about it now, I just couldn't help myself. I've seen so many topics like this, and they are just a bit of a pet-peeve. I chose to actually say something about it this time >=P.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: Bias Bus on August 21, 2009, 03:03:41 PM
In Touhou, girls are gods.
A few are yes. Immortals included

But most of the others can easily be killed if you can get past their bullshit powers. Yukari included.
Title: Re: Touhou vs. Type-Moon: who'd win in a fight?
Post by: shadowbringer on August 21, 2009, 11:46:34 PM
Junta Momonari would have a considerable advantage over the Touhou girls

..considering that Reimu alone could become invincible if she wished so, what's to say about the others.

Curious fact: In Saint Seiya, there are lots of characters that can reach the speed of light (unless they're liars), however it takes the combined effort of a number of them to create an artificial sun in Hades. See the irony? (what's to say about Shinki, then?)

Curious fact #2: my original (non Touhou-related) character could handle Touhou and Type Moon together by overwhelming them with more numerous and powerful copies of themselves, just to start testing them. :D