Maidens of the Kaleidoscope
~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Suikama on August 28, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
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seriously what am i even looking at (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/08/28/nintendo-announces-2ds)
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:munch:
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Well its cheaper and I have been meaning to get a 3ds so I guess this is better
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topics merged.
Also:
[12:06:26] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Yeah, watching the video on ign is making sense
[12:06:44] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> See, my brother bought my original DS from me a long time ago, because I had got the DS lite
[12:06:49] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> note he was a little kid
[12:06:56] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Kid demolished the fucking thing.
[12:07:11] <Yaersulf> Heh, and even those were pretty bricky
[12:07:12] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> The hinge is busted, the screen is scrathed up p bad
[12:07:15] ItsPurvisHasLeftThisTimestream [~Purvis@qq-E13C602C.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #scarlet-library
[12:07:22] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> I took it back from him after I found it buried in his toy box
[12:07:31] <XephyrEnigma> Geez
[12:07:38] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> So yeah, a no-hinge handheld ain't too bad an idea for kids
[12:07:53] <ItsPurvisHasLeftThisTimestream> *That is an interesting line to come in on*
[12:08:04] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Of course folks like us who already have handhelds and know how to take care of them won't care
[12:08:08] <Yaersulf> Purvis you seen the new "2ds"?
[12:08:17] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> Purv: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/28/nintendo-announces-2ds
[12:08:20] <@Keine-tan> Title: Nintendo Announces 2DS - IGN (at www.ign.com)
[12:09:05] rdj522 passes the remaining Mabinogi maintenance time with some Touhou Rhythm Carnival
[12:09:06] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> but yeah we may roll our eyes at it, but that's because it's not being marketed to us
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[12:09:18] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> it's actually a pretty good idea
[12:09:26] <Yaersulf> I agree
[12:09:29] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> though I do hope they made those screens extra durable
[12:09:36] <Nadeshiko-Matsuri> those fuckers are gonna take a scratchin'
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Now this is just silly. And a slate design? Really?
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seriously what am i even looking at (http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/08/28/nintendo-announces-2ds)
Not everybody has the physical capability to see in 3D. Some people have eye problems, some people have depth perception problems, etc. And if you play games like most of us old-schoolers do, simply for the games themselves and not for the graphics, buying a cheaper system that plays the exact same games but cuts out an effect you don't need sounds like a good idea. If you just want to game, I'd go with this. Seriously, if I could save 40 bucks and just take away wiggling the device in front of your eyes, I'd go for it.
Doesn't matter, though. 3DS still doesn't hold a candle to the Virtual Boy.
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The 2DS is fully compatible with all 3DS and DS games but does not include the ability to display games in 3D.
Seems like a fine enough idea for me, though part of me thinks it should be cheaper to appeal to the parents of those younger gamers.
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Now this is just silly. And a slate design? Really?
If you think it sounds silly, you are not the target demographic for the product.
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Seems like a fine enough idea for me, though part of me thinks it should be cheaper to appeal to the parents of those younger gamers.
I read it was going to be cheaper by about 40$
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I think I'm just naturally frowning at this idea because it smells more like a marketing technique than anything else. It's basically a 3DS with less capabilities, design sense be damned. Hence the name. There already exists an alternative for "young gamers" - they just borrow their siblings' 3DS and turn off the 3D. Now they can buy a more useless version for themselves, until they're "old enough" and want the 3D anyway, oh joy.
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Literally the only capabilities it's losing, from what I can find, are the 3d and the hinge.
Hell, given that I play with the 3d off at least 90% of the time, I'd say this is a pretty good deal, though portability might hurt.
(Also older siblings may not want to lend theirs if they're using it/want to keep it in good condition.)
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Literally the only capabilities it's losing, from what I can find, are the 3d and the hinge.
Hell, given that I play with the 3d off at least 90% of the time, I'd say this is a pretty good deal, though portability might hurt.
(Also older siblings may not want to lend theirs if they're using it/want to keep it in good condition.)
That's precisely what I mean. My brother did quite a number on that old DS because he didn't understand that you're supposed to take better care of that sort of thing-- it's not just some other toy you can toss in a big box with other toys.
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But here's the thing - this is directed at that younger audience. That younger audience will probably want a "real" 3DS anyway. Or maybe I'm just overestimating kids' demands these days?
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But here's the thing - this is directed at that younger audience. That younger audience will probably want a "real" 3DS anyway. Or maybe I'm just overestimating kids' demands these days?
I'd say you are. Most kids would be quite happy with a 2DS.
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If you think it sounds silly, you are not the target demographic for the product.
I know I'm not, but my initial reaction was not very positive regardless. However, one nice thing about the system is the cheaper price tag compared to the normal 3ds.
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I'd say you are. Most kids would be quite happy with a 2DS.
As someone looking for some portable entertainment, hasn't owned a handheld game system since the original grey brick, and who would never use the 3D feature anyway, yeah.
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Looking at how the thing is modeled. it looks bit akward. Like, imagine of you would held your 3DS by the top screen. And it looks bit like it would be bit weird to get a grip on it. And I honestly want to know the size of it.
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Part of me think this is being done to counter Sony reducing the Vita's price by $100. And in doing so, chopped out the unnecessary 3D gimmick.
I still wish they kept the clamshell design though.
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Looking at how the thing is modeled. it looks bit akward. Like, imagine of you would held your 3DS by the top screen. And it looks bit like it would be bit weird to get a grip on it. And I honestly want to know the size of it.
It looks like a WiiU tablet, which I have no issue with.
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It's an interesting concept to be honest, and the price drop is a nice idea. I still prefer the 3DS' clamshell though, which protects the screens and gives the console a more "portable" feel imo.
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Part of me think this is being done to counter Sony reducing the Vita's price by $100. And in doing so, chopped out the unnecessary 3D gimmick.
I still wish they kept the clamshell design though.
Yeah, those are my thoughts on the subject. I liked the hinge. Whenever I put things with an open screen in my pocket, I always have to worry about it getting scratched up by other things in there. Never owned a handheld though, so my opinon doesn't matter that much.
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Well, yeah, but Nintendo has said in as many words that it's specifically intended for the under-7 age range. They aren't interested in what the adult fans of the existing 3DS think. And as Matsuri said, the threat of the little kids breaking the hinge is a valid worry.
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-$40 and all you lose is a hinge? Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me, although it does look kinda top-heavy. I wonder if it saves battery power with no 3D.
However, the library of appealing games is still a bit small, so I'll wait a while longer, I suppose. Still holding out for Advance Wars 3DS.
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im pretty sure even with the original 3ds if you turn the 3D off the battery lasts longer
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-$40 and all you lose is a hinge? Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me, although it does look kinda top-heavy. I wonder if it saves battery power with no 3D.
However, the library of appealing games is still a bit small, so I'll wait a while longer, I suppose. Still holding out for Advance Wars 3DS.
Iunno, it's pretty decent already and growing fast.
Fire Emblem, SMT4, EO4, EOU, Pokemans, AA5(!!!!!!!)...I'm extremely happy with my 3DS.
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As someone who literally cannot see in 3d due to being basically blind in one eye, I would so buy this if I didn't already buy my friends 3DS (he bought a 3DS XL last year) target demographic be damned. This is also a smart move, since I see so many little kids with phones and tablets and I could imagine their parents may be tempted now to buy a slightly cheaper and more durable handheld just for them.
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im pretty sure even with the original 3ds if you turn the 3D off the battery lasts longer
True.
And yeah, I wouldn't buy it myself, but for a younger audience it's not a bad idea. (It is also scheduled to release simultaneously with Pokemon X & Y, which is pretty much perfect timing strategically)
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As someone who has a nephew who had a 3DS and literally had the thing cut in half because he was too rough with it, I gotta say this is actually a really good idea by Nintendo. Once you get over the fact that it's kinda ugly and blocky (and loses 3D, which for some is actually a plus), it's actually a great way to get the system into the hands of younger gamers who may not be ready for a 3DS, be it that they'll be too rough with it or the 3D effect may not be good for their eyes. Plus it's 40 bucks cheaper.
I personally wouldn't get it but I see where the appeal lies.
Also, Pokemon X/Y comes out the same day it does. This is not by coincidence, I think.
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tbh I was wondering why they didn't make one like this in the very first place. I mean with consoles, they tend to have like 3 different models featuring more ram and/or HD size, wtf didn't they have a cheaper and premium version of the 3ds, where they had its main expensive gimmick feature be the price gap?
The no hinge thing wasn't on my mind though I admit.
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It's aimed at 7 and under because now there's literally no chance of breaking the hinge. And since it's so big, it's impossible to drop.
Also, it's one step close to a tablet and you can really feel like you're using a camera or something.
It just weird to use with your hand mostly centred on the top part of it.
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Off topic, but I love how Ghaleon's avatar is Noire, and (a) Noire posts right after.
That said, I expect Nintendo to garner a modest success off of this (mostly due to, as everyone's talking about, PKMN X and Y version simul-release), but it feels like the Advance Micro - something that could have been cool, but ends up flopping. It makes me feel like Nintendo's basically saying their main gimmick this handheld generation was stupid, even for them.
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Off topic, but I love how Ghaleon's avatar is Noire, and (a) Noire posts right after.
Hey, I can't make any good amalgamations with my usual two names. And having the same name all the time is quite boring.
Anyway waiting for 2DS combo with version lineart in black on a blue/red on the back of the 2DS with associated version preinstalled.
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I can appreciate the reduced cost, but as someone who values the hinge for portability purposes and enjoys the 3D function, I don't regret my original purchase.
Still, best wishes to those who will take advantage of this opportunity.
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For the last couple of months I've been using a 3DS that I'm borrowing with intent to purchase from a former co-worker. I hate the 3D function and am not a huge fan of the build quality and most of the features, so I think I'm going to buy a 2DS unless he drops the price down to a competitive level. Now I feel bad for not having paid him for it yet, but I guess it's good for me...
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bit suprised no one has mentioned that the 2DS only has 1 SPEAKER and can only play MONO sound.
Better yet here's the teck spec comparisons directly from nintendo
(http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/08/20130829043551276-1024x519.png)
Sp basically, it has the same size of screens as teh original 3DS, can't be folded, only has Mono sound unless using headphones, no power saving mode, worse batter life than the XL and can't be folded, GG Nintendo, if they seriously think they're fooling teh kids this is aimed at then they MUST be smoking something.
The only plus I see from the 2DS is the actual design of the thing being more childproof and less liable to be snapped in half, but in saying that, kid AREN'T stupid, they KNOW when they're being taken for an idiot, the only people who are gonna buy it are the Parent's of teh kids who want a 3DS since it's so cheap, and hey, the less money they have to spend the better right?!But I ain't gonna be surprised if we see TONS of the things in shops like EB games and Game 2nd hand or something.
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bit suprised no one has mentioned that the 2DS only has 1 SPEAKER and can only play MONO sound.
Better yet here's the teck spec comparisons directly from nintendo
(http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/08/20130829043551276-1024x519.png)
Sp basically, it has the same size of screens as teh original 3DS, can't be folded, only has Mono sound unless using headphones, no power saving mode, worse batter life than the XL and can't be folded, GG Nintendo, if they seriously think they're fooling teh kids this is aimed at then they MUST be smoking something.
The only plus I see from the 2DS is the actual design of the thing being more childproof and less liable to be snapped in half, but in saying that, kid AREN'T stupid, they KNOW when they're being taken for an idiot, the only people who are gonna buy it are the Parent's of teh kids who want a 3DS since it's so cheap, and hey, the less money they have to spend the better right?!But I ain't gonna be surprised if we see TONS of the things in shops like EB games and Game 2nd hand or something.
I know at least three people (including myself) who are planning on buying it for independently the same reasons: We want to play the new Pokemon but don't like the 3DS enough to use it as our primary handheld device. Speaking for me, I semi-own a 3DS but use it only when I need to do something online or play a 3DS-exclusive game. The rest of the time I use my first-wave DS because I like the placement of the d-pad better and it feels less fragile and would cost less to replace if I lost or broke it. Given the choice between buying a full 3DS that I won't really use and buying a 2DS that I won't really use I'll take the cheaper option.
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Well, the mono isn't really that bad I guess since I use headphones with all my handhelds anyways. Still don't like how it can't fold though, and I think I'd just go with the 3DS XL anyways considering it looks more comfortable and has a much better battery life.
Or maybe just wait for the 2DS XL that's foldable, has better battery life and all other features barring the 3D and costing the same as a regular 3DS, courtesy of our lord and savior Reggie Films Anime.
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Well, the mono isn't really that bad I guess since I use headphones with all my handhelds anyways.
Basically this, but what concerns me more is that lack of a power-saving mode. If this is aimed at kids, they're probably not going to be playing while tethered to a wall outlet.
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Basically this, but what concerns me more is that lack of a power-saving mode. If this is aimed at kids, they're probably not going to be playing while tethered to a wall outlet.
There is a sleep mode switch on the bottom of the handheld, I saw.
EDIT: never mind, I was confused for a moment.
Yeah, I suppose that may be a thing? I was confused because I had never used that feature before, so I didn't even know it was there. :p
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The real question (and main draw) for the 2DS would be, "Is it made of Nintendium?"
Because from the matte look, no-flimsy-parts design and marketing "to kids", it sort of seems like it.
Basically this, but what concerns me more is that lack of a power-saving mode. If this is aimed at kids, they're probably not going to be playing while tethered to a wall outlet.
I know I sure did!
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Basically this, but what concerns me more is that lack of a power-saving mode. If this is aimed at kids, they're probably not going to be playing while tethered to a wall outlet.
Have you tried to catch legendaries before?
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Power saving mode isn't really an issue. I've hardly even noticed what it does, really. Or does it only dim the screen after a period of inactivity or something? It has the same screen size as a 3DS but a better battery capacity than the 3DS. The mono sound isn't something a kid is going to notice or care about.
As far as things go in my opinion, it's an economical 3DS. If I didn't already have one, it would totally be a valid option if it weren't so... distinctly shaped.
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I didn't read the previous posts, so I don't know if it has already been said.
The purpose of the 2DS is to boost the sales of Nintendo this coming Christmas. It is to be more economical to other consumers than the 3DS as it's an entry-level portable console, and also to be more lightweight.
It of course features no 3D capability, and what sucks more is the portability. It may be smaller and lightweight, but it's still bigger than a folded 3DS, which is portable to carry in a pocket.
This would've been a great idea for them, since 3DS has some certain issues we already know about(eg. makes some people feel dizzy). The only real bad thing here is the design, which they could just make it look like the original DS, or 3DS but without the 3D feature...but then again, they aim "Kid's safety".
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The lack of portability is the lesser of two evils, given they're marketing toward kids. While it's nice that the 3DS folds, give a kid a toy built like the 3DS and the first thing to break will be the hinges, guaranteed.
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Even if I'm not interested in the 3D feature, that hinge makes things far more compact for the nerd on the go.
Better yet here's the teck spec comparisons directly from nintendo
(http://wimages.vr-zone.net/2013/08/20130829043551276-1024x519.png)
This is actually quite informative!
The lack of portability is the lesser of two evils, given they're marketing toward kids. While it's nice that the 3DS folds, give a kid a toy built like the 3DS and the first thing to break will be the hinges, guaranteed.
Either way a platoon of styli will go MIA within the first week of their tour of duty. Lost, but not forgotten. o7
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Either way a platoon of styli will go MIA within the first week of their tour of duty. Lost, but not forgotten. o7
I have to say, I kinda miss the little strap that came with the original DS that you could attach to the DS itself and it had a hard piece of plastic on the end that you could tighten onto your thumb or whatever and use that as a stylus. That'd be pretty nice to bring back for people who are always losing theirs (and 3DS styli aren't exactly cheap since they're not just plastic anymore, but the fancy schmancy telescoping design now...
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The lack of portability is the lesser of two evils, given they're marketing toward kids. While it's nice that the 3DS folds, give a kid a toy built like the 3DS and the first thing to break will be the hinges, guaranteed.
Which is exactly why they were the first thing to go on my brother's DS!
And then mine which I gave him when I got a DSi!
WITHIN TWO DAYS OF HIM GETTING IT.
So, yeah, hinges are weak points, and kids are great at destroying weak points in expensive tech with tremendous efficiency.
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Didn't think making a new thread was worth it for this, but this is apparently a thing as well. (http://nintendo1ds.com/) (Except apparently not really)
I have no idea what to think anymore. I guess it'd be funny though.
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*Not actually a real device or price. See dreams for details.