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~Beyond the Border~ => Akyu's Arcade => Topic started by: Edible on August 18, 2013, 07:45:19 PM

Title: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 18, 2013, 07:45:19 PM
First thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,14669.0.html)
Second thread (http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,15058.0.html)


(http://i.imgur.com/gXK3QXT.jpg)

Puzzle & Dragons is an ios/android puzzle RPG.  It plays like a cross between Bejeweled and Pok?mon.  It's completely free to play, but has premium features through purchasable "magic stones," the game's premium currency (which can also be obtained occasionally as rewards in-game), which allow increased inventory, pulls from a rare egg machine, and more.  If you're patient enough the game gives you enough stones through special events and rewards that you shouldn't need to buy any.  (It's recommended you don't because you are almost guaranteed to be super frustrated at getting screwed by bad rolls ;_;)

You can control monsters from lowly slimes to mighty dragons  to even gods like Seiryuu (above).  They all have different stats and skills, allowing you to customize your team for any number of purposes.

If you're interested, there's a really useful database of monsters and game info here: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/

A tip for new players: At the end of the tutorial the game will give you one free pull on the rare egg machine.  It's best to "scum" this pull and start over (by uninstalling and reinstalling) until you get something that's really rare, like a 5-star beastie or a god.  Great starters include any of the Chinese Gods, Shiva, Ares, Isis, Horus, Idunn & Idunna, Hermes, Archangel Lucifer, Valkyrie, Amaterasu, Odin, Loki, Persephone, Freyja, Parvati, and many others.  Feel free to ask!

List of friends:

hyorinryu 357.646.299
Suikama 348.941.282
Soichiro W. 301,943,298
triangles 322.456.235
Nobu 389,151,231
Arashi 361, 443, 282
Chaore 344, 844, 286
Ghaleon 374, 256, 217
Labuto 362,441,209
omgkitties 301,354,227
Twillsky 320,059,211
O4rfish 389,956,257
Mode 384,458,286
Arcorann 326,268,215
Yukarin: 362.560.253
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 18, 2013, 07:50:21 PM
If I activate a Chinese god with the right orbs, then does the attack multiplier apply to all monsters or just those three attributes?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 18, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
If I activate a Chinese god with the right orbs, then does the attack multiplier apply to all monsters or just those three attributes?

After messing around with Sakuya, the bonus applies to everything.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 18, 2013, 08:11:38 PM
They're like Egyptian gods. In fact, their icon dots and combo multiplier text use the same format (and stack with them).

Edible, this should make you feel a little better
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/archive/index.php/thread-13469.html
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 18, 2013, 08:17:03 PM
so they work perfectly with isis

excellent
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 18, 2013, 08:34:06 PM
Edible, this should make you feel a little better
http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/archive/index.php/thread-13469.html

It doesn't.  Metatron is mediocre and offers no real advantages over valkyrie, which I already have.

I was looking for a different playstyle with Kirin or any of the other chinese gods.  Metatron does not offer me that, nor does any of the other 16 wasted rolls this game foisted upon me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 18, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
It doesn't.  Metatron is mediocre and offers no real advantages over valkyrie, which I already have.

I was looking for a different playstyle with Kirin or any of the other chinese gods.  Metatron does not offer me that, nor does any of the other 16 wasted rolls this game foisted upon me.

Hopefully she'll get buffed then, though it might not help you looking for a different playstyle.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 18, 2013, 08:45:02 PM
holy shit fucking goemon is stupid

ive wasted so much stamina on this stupid thing, i think my failure rate is really close to 100%

i keep fucking getting uncontrollable heart orb combo drops and it just pushes me out of ranged during a boss
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 18, 2013, 08:49:08 PM
It just occured to me, suzaku is even besterer cuz shes the only chinese goddess whose leader ability is compatible with kirin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 18, 2013, 08:50:59 PM
her active ability isnt though :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: fondue on August 18, 2013, 10:07:53 PM
Holy chicken. Might try this sometime later. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 19, 2013, 12:42:56 AM
only 2 hours left of godfest

are the chinese gods still available after the godfest or are they godfest only?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 01:00:38 AM
They're being added officially when the next festival rolls in
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 19, 2013, 01:02:06 AM
Odin and Metatron are godfest only. Everything else should be in the REM.
Also, I figured out why so many elementals!
"RARE EGG MACHINE: Angels and the Five Elements Descended!"
How much you wanna bet someone hit the wrong button?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 19, 2013, 02:29:49 AM
So I was bored and searched danbooru for PaD images...
Every chinese goddess has their own image except suzaku (whose only image is part of one that features all 5), WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 19, 2013, 02:42:46 AM
Danbooru has plenty of Kirin images. Also, plenty of Sakuya images.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 19, 2013, 02:44:17 AM
Danbooru has plenty of Kirin images. Also, plenty of Sakuya images.

You mean Karin images?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 19, 2013, 02:49:34 AM
For clarity's sake we should just stick to their given names :V

So it's Leilan, Karin, Meimei, Sakuya, and Haku


...oh shit godfest ends in 10 minutes ;-;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Arcorann on August 19, 2013, 03:22:57 AM
I just realised there was a typo in my player ID. It should be 326,368,215 (not 268). Apologies for any inconvenience.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on August 19, 2013, 05:43:59 AM
Anyone beat Zeus- Dios yet? Not me, too hard.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 19, 2013, 06:26:51 AM
Is it worth saving gold dragons for the ultra-rare shiny pengdra, or should I just eat them?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 19, 2013, 06:47:06 AM
prob should save like 2 or 3 imo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 19, 2013, 08:11:29 AM
God damn it, Kreimhilde needs 8 super kings or equivalent to get to level 70. Someone please change the pal machine back to enhance instead of evo!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 19, 2013, 01:58:40 PM
God damn it, Kreimhilde needs 8 super kings or equivalent to get to level 70. Someone please change the pal machine back to enhance instead of evo!

I don't roll the PAL Machince for Evo materials anymore. Only works if i get the specific one I need. Meanwhile, I can always use another king dragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 19, 2013, 02:41:39 PM
Same, though i never get squat from enhance mode either. The very first time gave me a couple kings, but nowdays i save 20+ eggs for enhance and didnt get one king for the last couple enhance pal events in a row.

Of note, i had like only 3 people use my haku since getting her... Shes apparently nobody's friend ='(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 19, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
Evolve her already :V

She's like the weakest leader in my friends list V:


oh wait that's someone else's haku

i dont even have you added :V



ugh breakers is today

it just tempts me to waste stamina

but today is pengdra with x5 +egg rate

aarggggggg
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 02:52:41 PM
Yeah I was gonna say, his haku came pre-evolved
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 19, 2013, 02:59:31 PM
also to all Chinese god onwers

My Isis is now level 79

so feel free to give me lots of pal points use her to clear everything :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 19, 2013, 03:24:56 PM
Yeah I was gonna say, his haku came pre-evolved

No it came level 5 un evolved. I just leveled her up real fast.

Why isnt suikama on my list anyway, hurr
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 03:26:52 PM
Holy shit. :o
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 19, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
I spent my 20-something evolved green pendrags on her since godfest still gave me nothin green.  So much bag space, ahhh
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 19, 2013, 03:37:42 PM
Holy shit. :o
super metal kings was on the same day remember :V

e: or that :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 19, 2013, 05:15:03 PM
also to all Chinese god onwers

My Isis is now level 79

so feel free to give me lots of pal points use her to clear everything :derp:

I don't even use my sakuya outside of gem dragons. She's too low level. My heartbreakers and verche need mystic masks.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 19, 2013, 06:08:54 PM
also to all Chinese god onwers

My Isis is now level 79

so feel free to give me lots of pal points use her to clear everything :derp:

Why would I use isis when I have like 3 other kirin in my list.

Silly Suikama.

(Dat 25x)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 19, 2013, 06:14:04 PM
nooo gimme pal pointssss
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 06:25:12 PM
I've had to remove all of the isises from my list that weren't people from here because my primary team no longer uses 3 colors <_<;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 19, 2013, 06:38:05 PM
gogogo valk mode

(I still really need to get mine to princess mode)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 19, 2013, 06:38:14 PM
nooo gimme pal pointssss

I use Isis/Leilei with Kirin because I can't consistently x25 yet :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 06:42:31 PM
I use Isis/Leilei with Kirin because I can't consistently x25 yet :(

For what it's worth, it is not possible to consistently 25x with ra or sakuya or even 16x with horus.

High-multiplier spike damage teams are always going to have turns where they'll need to eliminate unnecessary orbs to get better ones to drop so they can activate their huge damage boosts.  The trick for them is knowing when to stall.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 19, 2013, 06:58:22 PM
I've had to remove all of the isises from my list that weren't people from here because my primary team no longer uses 3 colors <_<;
but Valk + Isis alone is already 3 colors :derp:

add in Echidna and that's everything but dark
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 19, 2013, 07:03:20 PM
But again, the real question is

Why would you ever use isis instead of more VALKYRIEEEEEEEE or something that gels better
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 07:13:15 PM
but Valk + Isis alone is already 3 colors :derp:

add in Echidna and that's everything but dark

Yeah but I'm gonna be switching over primarily to metatron so I had to make room for more metatrons anyway

Metatron + metatron synergy > metatron + valk synergy > metatron + isis synergy!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 19, 2013, 07:48:58 PM
...I thought metatron was mediocre :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
She is but I'm getting bored with valkyrie as a starter so I'm switching to meta/meta primarily when I get her evolved
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 19, 2013, 10:43:14 PM
She's not mediocre. She's just a waste/sidegrade if you already have a pimped out valk =p.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 19, 2013, 11:19:42 PM
I think she qualifies for mediocre, given she's supposed to be an "ultra rare" like odin but has nowhere near his level of usability while also being less useful than all of the other gods released simultaneously :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2013, 12:01:39 AM
Well yeah when your standard is ultra rares I guess. I was thinking more like all gods in general.
Maybe she'll get an ultimate evo eventually? dunno if ultra rares will ever get those or not.

I hope the chinese gods ultimates wont be like the toy dragons where their cost doubles for 200 rcv or something like that. Though a dual element alone is probably pretty good for them since they have pretty good attack, and you'll probably be sporting some high multipliers with them too.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 20, 2013, 12:13:15 AM
Maybe they'll buff her like Zeus-Dios and the Norse Gods. I'm sad to see Norses fall out of favor though. I like my I&I :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 12:30:12 AM
if Isis get an ult evo then i hope she becomes a healer type

i mean she has good RCV and she has a healing ability so she should totally be a healer type
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 20, 2013, 12:43:16 AM
if Isis get an ult evo then i hope she becomes a healer type

i mean she has good RCV and she has a healing ability so she should totally be a healer type

Also: Amaterasu :|
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 12:44:18 AM
wait is she not

rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 20, 2013, 12:52:56 AM
She existed before dual classifications, so there's that.  It's probably a matter of time.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 20, 2013, 01:00:28 AM
Speakijg of Amaterasu, does someone have a leader I can borrow for dark skydragon? Hades, ammy, or a skilled joker (if you can skill him) or I guess anything helpful.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 20, 2013, 01:05:09 AM
What would Isis gain from a Healer sub-type? Then again, I&I gets pretty much nothing from the balanced subtype.

Speakijg of Amaterasu, does someone have a leader I can borrow for dark skydragon? Hades, ammy, or a skilled joker (if you can skill him) or I guess anything helpful.

My Siren heals 2k and is max-skilled if you like that. I also have ult-evoed drawnjoker(not-skilled) and a Chaos Devil dragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 01:12:24 AM
I could use her 100% with Valkyrie :derp:

right now if I use Isis Valk with valkteam like subs, Isis herself doesn't get any bonus from Valk

If she's a healer then not only will she get the full x9 bonus, I can also reap King Shynee's delicious x3 burst bonus, even with double Isis teams
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 20, 2013, 01:16:06 AM
I could use her 100% with Valkyrie :derp:

right now if I use Isis Valk with valkteam like subs, Isis herself doesn't get any bonus from Valk

If she's a healer then not only will she get the full x9 bonus, I can also reap King Shynee's delicious x3 burst bonus, even with double Isis teams

Now I look forward to this, if only so I can see someone try to pull off Anubis with a King Baddie. I wonder if Horus and Draggie knight would become a thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 01:25:29 AM
oh man if horus became dragon that would be so broken

who needs other teams when you have x40 damage horus
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 20, 2013, 01:30:52 AM
no BAD SUIKAMA

Also fuck king Shynee I want to use this king gold dragon for glory not evolutions ;W;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 01:33:17 AM
ive been holding onto two super gold kings for like 3 months because i have no one to use them on

i have a bajillion red, blue, and black subs but only 1 real yellow and one green :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 20, 2013, 01:34:23 AM
i'll trade you a susanoo for them ;W;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 01:36:58 AM
hgngnnng i'd so do that trade omg
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 20, 2013, 01:38:06 AM
it'd be perfect you got your shiny meatshield and I got my sweet sweet experience
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 20, 2013, 02:22:48 AM
Zero stoned dark skydragon using a joker, Lucy, rk, Sakuya and two max skill sirens. No drop ofc, but I now have a ... Waitasec, little instead of spinner?? Gungtroll!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 02:26:14 AM
hey at least you get dark resist! :]

which you already have[/sub]
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 20, 2013, 03:41:11 AM
What's the most efficient way to level people?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 20, 2013, 03:50:15 AM
MILLIONS OF TINY DRAGONS essentially
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 20, 2013, 03:52:38 AM
So those metal dragons then?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 20, 2013, 03:59:22 AM
Pretty much- The King, High, and Super King alone are the most efficient, and the metal dragons are used to make jewel pengdras which are also pretty efficient
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 04:00:58 AM
What's the most efficient way to level people?
mondays: do technicals for pengdra
thursdays: do green draagon den for dragon seeds
then get tiny dragons and evolve those pengdra
proceed to roll in exp
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2013, 04:23:11 AM
mondays: do technicals for pengdra
thursdays: do green draagon den for dragon seeds
then get tiny dragons and evolve those pengdra
proceed to roll in exp

This, but you missed a step. PRobably known but very important if not.
Check http://www.puzzledragonx.com/ Daily, look at the left side where it says limited dungeon. It's normally some kind of metal dragon. You're in group A to E, it never changes as long as your account stays the same. There's supposedly a way to find out what group you are via your ID number or something but I could never find that guide. I just had to wait until I saw an Alert! metal dragons! dungeon, goto that site, and see which group had it active at the time (I'm 'e').
Then, you basically do those every time you get a chance to unless you do not need metal dragons for that particular colour or something. Takes 2 regular metals to evolve a pengdra, unless gold which needs just 1, or black which needs 3. Getting both gold and black pengdras are hard as fuu though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 20, 2013, 04:37:19 AM
Also, you have to get past the normal dungeon Castle of Satan in order to unlock the technical dungeons. You'll want to save all of your dragon plants until then, because once you start on pengdras they'll get used up faster than you get them. Buy lots of boxes with stones. You do not need to save more than a few dragon seeds or dragon flowers though.

Speaking of saving: The high (4*) dragons do not need to be saved for anything. The king (5*) dragons can be used to make king slimes, so it might be good to check which ones make what. The normal (3*) rgb dragons should be saved until you unlock pengdras, but you don't need to save any dark 3* and only a couple light 3*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 20, 2013, 04:54:09 AM
Huh. Wood Samurai Ogre was my first ultimate and my first dual color. Looking at the monster list, it looks like (aside from its brother Ice Samurai Ogre) it was the first of either in the game.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 20, 2013, 10:12:08 AM
Echidna as a leader is really weak. One dungeon takes me very long now.

Isis helper makes my life a lot easier, therefore I will add Suikama and give him tons of pal points.

I'M ADDING YOU DON'T REJECT
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on August 20, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
You're probably better with whatever your starting dragon is - Echidna's leader passive sounds really awesome but not so much in reality :(  But she's absolutely fabulous as a regular ol' party member!
Was Echidna your starting machine roll?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 12:38:27 PM
Echidna as a leader is really weak. One dungeon takes me very long now.

Isis helper makes my life a lot easier, therefore I will add Suikama and give him tons of pal points.

I'M ADDING YOU DON'T REJECT
dont worry i got ya :V


rolled pal got ANOTHER TITAN

[ATTACK ON TITAN THEME INTENSIFIES]
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 20, 2013, 02:27:49 PM
Starting machine roll. I knew about her being an amazing party member, but yea her leader skill is just so uggh.

And for some reason, I can't make you or Suikama as a helper, so I can't reap the benefits of a War Ares or Isis.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
you can only use each friend a limited number of times a day (sometimes its just once)

the exact number i dont know but apparently it depends on how close your ranks are and last time played


one way to get more friends is enter an easy low stam dungeon and then look at the new leaders you can get. If there's someone good, use them for the dungeon and then add them afterwards. If there isnt anyone good, leave and reenter and there will be different new leaders to choose from.
note: they may not add you back if they dont like your leader though
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 20, 2013, 02:35:23 PM
but i haven't used you guys yet and I don't see in my helper list ;-;

the only reason why i'm this far in this game is because of the helpers I have (Haku, Meimei, Suzaku, Valkyrie, Arch Luci, and most especially Isis) and because of that it actually helped me match orbs better but I need to like not rely on them.

Echidna so weak as a leader uggh.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2013, 02:49:17 PM
Yeah unless you're far you should reroll. Shes not a weak leader, she's a damn useless one. Before long she'll hit for 1 with her abilities since enemy defenses will reach the thousands even for trash later on.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on August 20, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
Yeah your best bet is to reroll, I sure did and I can't imagine what things would have been like if I didn't have Ares to firepunch things in the face, and I still hit some progression brick walls I had to work my way to pass.  It sounds lame I know, but if you're already having trouble it's only going to snowball and you'll be able to get back to whatever progress you had already made as soon as you have the team points to use your shiney new god.  There is a list in the OP of some of the gods to aim for.

EDIT: By "reroll" we really mean "keep re/uninstalling until you get a good god/angel/etc while you watch TV or something"  I lucked out and scored one after 4 times, my brother spent about 4-6 hours during his commutes over a few days and settled for a lv30 final stage Verche (but then he now has a Suzaku so  :V) who was still infinitely better than the original golem he was trying to play with.  Since the godfest is no longer live, it might take you longer.  Or not, who knows!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 20, 2013, 03:09:51 PM
So I'll reroll? Okay okay.

but but but but my helpers they were so good to meeeee
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on August 20, 2013, 03:15:18 PM
You can friend them again!
Even better, you will be able to get  MANY MORE awesome helpers because with a powerful leader you'll attract powerful leader friends yourself :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 20, 2013, 03:28:06 PM
What do you have? Maybe we can help you out, and you won't have to reroll.

If you're going to reroll, I would advise waiting till the next godfest, otherwise you'll be rolling a while. Also, if you like your friends so much, you can record their IDs before changing your account.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2013, 03:38:23 PM
2x kings my foot, i havent seen one yet qq. Now i got 24 red metal dragons, no penguins and no seeds... Thursday gonna be something amazing like super gold dragons just watch, its always thirsday with the cant miss dungeon =p
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 03:41:46 PM
why didnt you get pengdras yesterday D:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 20, 2013, 03:47:26 PM
I'm hoping we'll get a pengdra village this week >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 20, 2013, 03:52:36 PM
I'm hoping we'll get a pengdra village this week >_>

It'll probably be on Thursday like it always is.

EDIT: Why am I getting so many Valkyrie friend requests. I don't even have a Valkyrie. Also, is Valkyrie supposed to be capitalized?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 03:59:50 PM
$$BUY STONES$$
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 20, 2013, 04:04:56 PM
why didnt you get pengdras yesterday D:

I did... Blue ones for my siegfried =p.

Anyway getting haku and lucifer... I think im at the point now where i can palm most gods in the face like a snob. I mean i expect ill be one of those people who will be like "meh" for most godfests. The only things i think i should really go for are more lucifers (be one of those people who run with 2/3 lucifers and 2/3 gravities, greek gods (or is it roman? The ones with half damage leader things), odin (cuz duh), shiva, and more chinese cuz kirin owns and suzaku is my destined star-crossed lover =p.

An isis would be nice just for dungeons i wanna chinese god but cant due to orb restrictions but i wouldnt want to most likely waste eggs goin for that only to end up getting others.

But yeah, too many mono color designed gods out there and fact is i think with persephone, lucifer, cdk, haku, vampire lord, elysium, etc, i kinda have all one needs to do anything a mono colour can do... once i get a hera or two that is. I think ill be ready for her next time now that i have my own lucifer just gotta level him up first. I have a pretty decent fire lineup too (ares, uriel, pheonix knight homura, salamander, etc).

I just wish this game had some kind of balance between mono team survival, and rainbow nukeage.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 20, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
I did... Blue ones for my siegfried =p.

Anyway getting haku and lucifer... I think im at the point now where i can palm most gods in the face like a snob. I mean i expect ill be one of those people who will be like "meh" for most godfests. The only things i think i should really go for are more lucifers (be one of those people who run with 2/3 lucifers and 2/3 gravities, greek gods (or is it roman? The ones with half damage leader things), odin (cuz duh), shiva, and more chinese cuz kirin owns and suzaku is my destined star-crossed lover =p.

An isis would be nice just for dungeons i wanna chinese god but cant due to orb restrictions but i wouldnt want to most likely waste eggs goin for that only to end up getting others.

But yeah, too many mono color designed gods out there and fact is i think with persephone, lucifer, cdk, haku, vampire lord, elysium, etc, i kinda have all one needs to do anything a mono colour can do... once i get a hera or two that is. I think ill be ready for her next time now that i have my own lucifer just gotta level him up first. I have a pretty decent fire lineup too (ares, uriel, pheonix knight homura, salamander, etc).

I just wish this game had some kind of balance between mono team survival, and rainbow nukeage.

I was at that point even before I got Sakuya :V

Yeah, that's what I liked about the mono teams. They could stall, yet they weren't agonizingly slow. Personally, I think they should remove devils from the game, or at least their armor. Then turtle would become so much more fun.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 04:13:43 PM
once tengu and the stone dragons come into play you'll have options for balancing nuking with stalling
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 20, 2013, 04:29:17 PM
I only have Echidna tho.

I'm actually thinking of rerolling, but not yet. Yea I'm going to wait for the next godfest.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 20, 2013, 04:36:12 PM
what you can also do is save all the stones you get from clearing dungeons for the next godfest

then if you roll something good you can keep your account and your echidna

if you get more crap then you can reroll with the godfest benefit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 20, 2013, 06:34:53 PM
what you can also do is save all the stones you get from clearing dungeons for the next godfest

then if you roll something good you can keep your account and your echidna

if you get more crap then you can reroll with the godfest benefit

Good idea. I don't know what your monsters stats are, but depending on how high or low they are, you can farm a bunch of dublits using a zombie/Shiva team.
Basically, you take a bunch of red things, and a friends Shiva, and just stall on the first stage(match orbs that don't allow you to attack.) Once Shiva's ability comes up everything loses its armor and you can one shot everything. Be warned though, the effect wears off if you don't kill everything in one go. To be fool proof, my friend took several dragons that have damaging active skill so he didn't have to worry about supplying orbs.

Zombie teams take an Ogre or something with the same leader skill and an autohealer. You do the same thing, though instead of waiting for a specific cooldown, you wait until you have several orbs you can use next round.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 20, 2013, 09:43:03 PM
I try to put up Shiva on Wednesdays and Fridays. And hey, now Edible has a shiva too :)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 21, 2013, 04:13:23 PM
I can't convince myself to run Wednesday dungeons. Stamina's high, experience is low, and even on 2x drops the mystic mask rate is terrible. When blue dragons are on the same day, I'm just sticking to Ocean of Heaven.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 21, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
Yeah im not sure double drop really helps, since im pretty sure it doubles the drops of those useless divine masks too, effectively doing jack squat.

Good for rainbow keeper since he is aline and doesnt always drop, but thats about it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 21, 2013, 04:32:01 PM
Unfortunately when I need to evolve something, it's the best stamina percentage chance to get a mystic mask by a huge margin :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 21, 2013, 06:36:02 PM
Unfortunately when I need to evolve something, it's the best stamina percentage chance to get a mystic mask by a huge margin :/

Oh well, if there's one thing this game helped me with, it's playing the waiting game.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 22, 2013, 02:56:10 AM
I'm hoping we'll get a pengdra village this week >_>
WISH GRANTED
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 22, 2013, 04:34:10 AM
I still havent found a single other haku to friend. Has someone else? May i have their id numbers please?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 22, 2013, 05:28:50 AM
You can have my lil bro. He has a Byakkou.

333.060.275

He's low ranked and it's lvl 26 though. I think I might have one more Byakkou on my friends list though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 22, 2013, 05:35:41 AM
You can have my lil bro. He has a Byakkou.

333.060.275

He's low ranked and it's lvl 26 though. I think I might have one more Byakkou on my friends list though.

Thanks, though his list is full atm, no worries im patient
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 22, 2013, 05:40:43 AM
Thanks, though his list is full atm, no worries im patient

Don't worry. He's lvl 26. Getting him to make room'll be easy. You're easily better than 95% of the people on there anyway, assuming he doesn't just level up. I'll tell him to send an invite.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 22, 2013, 05:52:05 AM
Worth saving the blue kings to skill up king bubbly? I don't have a goemon yet but I have the gigs.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 22, 2013, 09:20:53 AM
omg i got hades

omg is this good

omg omg omg omg please tell me it is

btw i rerolled so suikama and the others who accepted my request before you can unfriend me now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 22, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Hades... Yes hes great but not sure if he makes starting easy.
Hes great cuz he can eventually get 60% dark resist and dark is quite probably the most important element to have resistance for in the game cuz of hera, which imo looks like a very important sub cuz of gravity to make all the other ultra special dudes manageable.

Id keep him, would be alot more useful to me now than persephone, but yeah, will make the start fairly slow.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 22, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
fucking goemon ughghghgh
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 22, 2013, 03:00:37 PM
He's good, but the start'll be fairly slow.

EDIT: Why don't people like Indra? The ability's pretty good, and his stats aren't bad either. I think he's the 2nd best Indian God behind Parvati.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 22, 2013, 04:14:03 PM
Not sure why parvarti would be best. But yeah 75% reduction is pretty sweet. I think id like shiva more though. Completely eliminatin defense would be so handy so often.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 22, 2013, 05:45:03 PM
Parvati is a staple for many non-green teams in addition to being a great green leader, since Guard Stance Wood is extremely useful.  She's also rlycute.

I evolved my Metatron.  Now to get more Metatron pals.

EDIT: Why don't people like Indra?

He's good as a sub in some teams, but basically he's just not particularly great at anything in particular.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 22, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
Parvati is a staple for many non-green teams in addition to being a great green leader, since Guard Stance Wood is extremely useful.  She's also rlycute.

I evolved my Metatron.  Now to get more Metatron pals.
did you play the transformers theme as she evolved?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 22, 2013, 06:45:57 PM
You guys are fast. My Kirin is still sitting at 42. I need to feed those Pengdras.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 22, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
My Kirins barely 29 :v

(I'ma be in class during pengdras aaaaa)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 22, 2013, 10:12:54 PM
Screw pengdra. I need seeds way too bad.
Edit: err, plants i mean
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 22, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
The manga has a great explanation of Thursday Dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 22, 2013, 11:05:57 PM
The manga has a great explanation of Thursday Dungeon.

I agree. The blue main character is such a boss. Dude 0-stoned White Ripper, Black Ripper, and Valkyrie descended with just Plessie, I&I, and a Harpie Devil.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 22, 2013, 11:44:21 PM
Well, now we know why Val has a shynee in her picture. And why Duke has a baddie.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 23, 2013, 05:16:00 AM
Almost there. Now I just need a dub-topalit.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 23, 2013, 05:21:03 AM
... did you take a picture of your phone?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 23, 2013, 05:26:24 AM
... did you take a picture of your phone?

My phone can't screenshot PAD for some reason.  :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 23, 2013, 04:45:28 PM
so many pengdra from yesterday

so many evolved dudes


still wish i had susano/earth golem/highlander tho

why must all green monsters evade me
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on August 23, 2013, 05:37:12 PM
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2334/dx58.png)
Dragons~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 23, 2013, 06:00:37 PM
i wanna try to goemon that stage but i just know something is gonna fuck up
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 23, 2013, 06:03:38 PM
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2334/dx58.png)
Dragons~

./Dramatic Fist Shake

It's too early for me to try and Kirin that. ;W; (And I don't think I could do enough damage consistently either)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 23, 2013, 08:08:07 PM
I'm too scared to try legend so I settled for master twice.. only got 1 dragon out of the deal, doh.

First time I did master I used a safe mono black team. Then tried again using a haku/isis team, which was incapable of surviving a single attack from green or blue, but they didn't get to move (although the game was REALLY trying tos crew me on blue, you wouldn't BELIEVE how many green orbs it kept giving me. argh).

I think I'll just spam master though, great exp for me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 23, 2013, 09:23:07 PM
I have no use for Legendary Dragons, so I'm going to keep spamming metals.

That, and I heard drops rates are terrible except for legend.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 23, 2013, 10:07:05 PM
I wanna do more masters but despite having 8 isis' on my fl, none are showing up anymore, fuuu.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on August 24, 2013, 03:33:23 AM
I have a 60% chance of 0 stone clearing Legendary, just have to get past red, charge on blue, use ra skill on green and you'll be in the clear.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 24, 2013, 05:06:44 AM
Level 8 niflheim on master. What are they good for?
used dual evo Lucys with keepers, a joker and Shiva sub. That x4 RCV is really nice, especially when I'm at 1 hp.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 24, 2013, 05:11:23 AM
no goemon friends were online, so i just tried horus and cleared it with a few stones (last boss too stronk)

got every single dragon to drop except for the blue one so its all good :V (plus a stone for first time clearing)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 24, 2013, 06:37:03 AM
I shouldn't even still be awake but I did a thing (http://www.padherder.com/user/ArashiKurobara/)

This seems like less of a pain to update than the monster box on PDX profiles maybe I'll actually maintain this
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 24, 2013, 04:40:06 PM
I shouldn't even still be awake but I did a thing (http://www.padherder.com/user/ArashiKurobara/)

This seems like less of a pain to update than the monster box on PDX profiles maybe I'll actually maintain this

After seeing your, I decided to do it too. I can't figure out how to get it to show though. In other news I got a fully evolved carbuncle to drop off of Sea God of Heaven. I would have preferred the mystic mask though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 24, 2013, 05:06:53 PM
After seeing your, I decided to do it too. I can't figure out how to get it to show though.

Go into your account options, there's one to make it visible (and another for your teams) and it's also got the link right there.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 24, 2013, 05:21:11 PM
Go into your account options, there's one to make it visible (and another for your teams) and it's also got the link right there.

Thanks. Did it (http://www.padherder.com/user/hyorinryu/#tttttttttt)


The hunt for mystic masks continues. I think I'll evolve Berserk once I get a blue keeper and call it a day. I don't really need Cu chu at the moment, and since I can't max verche, I'm going to CoC Glorious Healer instead. Anything green can go to Asgard.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 24, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
http://www.padherder.com/user/ChaoreLance/

I did a thing.

It took a while.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 25, 2013, 05:43:54 AM
http://www.padherder.com/user/o4rfish/

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 25, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
what the fuck

every time i try to play this piece of shit goemon i get a perfect heal drop at the worst time

and theres NOTHING i can do about it

how is this garbage even playable
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 25, 2013, 07:28:21 PM
I thought goemon looked like a stupid card to begin with, just sayin'.

Hard to use, one little mistake is a game over, active ability is only good if you have a horus sub or something (i mean not bad but something like ares' would he better since having 5 chains of 3 fire orbs is much better than a blob of 15 fire orbs, etc).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 25, 2013, 07:33:27 PM
problem is losing isnt even because of a mistake, its 100% bad luck

with isis/horus/kirin is you mess up its your own fault, you might get bad boards but you can store multi colors on the bottom of the screen and clear the garbage on the top to prepare for big combos

with goemon there's nothing i can do if 3 heart orbs just decide to fuck with me and appear and just match themselves during a boss fight

and his active sucks because stalling for 30 turns is impossible with no rcv, unless you get really lucky with a metal king spawn or something


only reason i bothered with goemon is because i need someone stronger than Isis for super descends

but no he sucks too fun fun fun
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 25, 2013, 07:39:05 PM
  Hmm
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 25, 2013, 07:40:16 PM
Could you try Isis/Kirin for the 15x?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 25, 2013, 09:21:46 PM
Personally i dont see why not.

Anyway im thinking about leveling up my genie some. I figure her activated ability would be really nice for the scads of dark superbosses. But shes light, and light is hard to level. What to do.

Edit:
I just looked at tomorrow's war dragon on legend... Loool. Looks like i got lucifer at the perfect timing.
I cant imagine any other reliable way of killing it without having double kirin or ra or green chinese unless counters ignore defense or something.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 25, 2013, 10:47:01 PM
Double Kirin would be hard because running through 10 battles...:v

(Despite what Suikama thinks, It is far far easier to get screwed with kirin, placement of orbs matters as much as plentiful)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 25, 2013, 10:51:37 PM
So, uhh, I've been trying to get into this, and I've been rerolling for a while.

Ahh, I still don't know what rare monsters are worth keeping or not. Right now I've got Archangel Raphael, and I'd really like to just start playing the game already but I dunno what do.
Halp?  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 25, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
Raphael's ability is great, and he makes a good sub or leader - the main problem is he's defense-oriented and thus will take longer for you to kill things.  The other problem is that he's Light and Light teams are the hardest to level up in the game.

I think you can do a lot worse than him, though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 25, 2013, 11:26:13 PM
Right now my only qualm with him is that he costs 25 points but my team only holds 24 right now. :V
So, in that case I think I'll stick around with him. But I still have no idea what to do with a team or what I should aim for. (Eventually, right?)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 26, 2013, 07:31:20 AM
Just play the game, and it will become clearer over time. Dive in, don't pay money, and then start over next godfest (probably aug31-sep1). See how far you can get before then.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: The Greatest Dog on August 26, 2013, 05:41:45 PM
Well, naturally I'm not intending to pay money.
So, after amassing five more stones from the beginning dungeons I used a second roll to see what I'd get.

A second Raphael. :V :V
The game seems really intent on me using him, so I guess he'll be my buddy for a long time.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 26, 2013, 11:56:10 PM
Blah i fant take on those effing ninjas on legendary. I prob could if i used haku but then my haku but then i only go 8k hp. Wut dooo.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 27, 2013, 12:31:02 AM
is it even possible to poison Bishamon? what happens once he uses his protection skill but he's already poisoned?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 27, 2013, 12:51:44 AM
not sure but even on legendary you can 1shot him with luci lawlawl.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on August 27, 2013, 02:50:07 AM
http://www.padherder.com/user/triangles/#tttttttttt
I made the PADherder too like all the other cool kids!
(not including pengdras and 40+ red space invaders cause I have pretty dismal luck in this game and I was 0/6 on Ares skill ups during the 2x event goddamn how am I ever going to get all those balloon masks :ohdear:)

What critters should I be focusing on leveling/evolving/catching?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 27, 2013, 03:38:32 AM
dump more exp into Ares

you generally want your leader to be the highest leveled guy on your team so more people use them for pal points :3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 28, 2013, 06:57:23 AM
/me looks at materials box on padherder

ughhhhhhhhhhhh I need how many dubmythlits?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 28, 2013, 10:25:31 AM
In case anybody still wonders, if you poison bishi before his big immunity shield thing, the poison will nonlonger damage him after the first turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 28, 2013, 11:07:32 AM
/me looks at materials box on padherder

ughhhhhhhhhhhh I need how many dubmythlits?

Five each to undo a busty evo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 28, 2013, 02:16:31 PM
Izanagi
Active skill: 3x God ATKs for 1 turn
Leader skill: 3.5x Attack for all god type monster when HP is full


holy fucking shit are you kidding me

Dear Healer teams, fuck you
Love Izanagi
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 28, 2013, 02:17:25 PM
lmao

Metatron is so fucking useless compared to that :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 28, 2013, 02:47:26 PM
why healer teams? Isn't it more fuck Zeus?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 28, 2013, 03:27:24 PM
It's pretty much fuck everything... Ffs he can spike more than double anubus, more easily too.
Wtf they smoking?
Guize! We screwed up with the chinese gods, they too good! What do!?
Hmm we cant nerf them without a fan outrage
I know, lets make something MORE op!
Great idea!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 28, 2013, 06:30:20 PM
I&I are crying in a corner, with only Plesios to comfort them :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 28, 2013, 06:38:20 PM
Dear sweet baby jesus.

...suddenly my kirin seems pointless.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 28, 2013, 06:40:20 PM
Dear sweet baby jesus.

...suddenly my kirin seems pointless.
oh yeah speaking of kirin

Umisachi & Yamasachi
Active skill: Wood to Water orbs, Heal to Wood orbs
Leader skill: 5x ATK when Wt,Wd,Lt,Dk attacks at same time

WELP



on the other hand the stats of these guys are awful
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 28, 2013, 06:45:33 PM
oh yeah speaking of kirin

Umisachi & Yamasachi
Active skill: Wood to Water orbs, Heal to Wood orbs
Leader skill: 5x ATK when Wt,Wd,Lt,Dk attacks at same time

WELP

It doesn't feel too bad honestly. At least compared to Kirin. They get orb changers, we get mini-gravity. They exchange Echidna delay for black stuff, most notably gravity. Kirin can fall back on Hera-Is for that. U&Y however, don't have an easy alternative for Echidna.

That said, U&Y sub in Kirin/Seiryuu/Karin/Sakuya?
Y/N?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 28, 2013, 06:53:58 PM
...you included Sakuya twice :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 28, 2013, 06:57:17 PM
...you included Sakuya twice :V

Had to account for people using different names.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 28, 2013, 07:09:58 PM
U&Y is...okay I guess?

He's an alternate. I don't like the massive attack trade for 50 rcv though. Especially on a burst leader- that's like 600 attack lost since you run him twice. Which conversely jumps to 15k wth active skill.

His sub usability also depends on how much stronger he is than riders and your team.

I dunno I don't really like him much atm. Kirin seems like a stronger leader, he seems like a stronger sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 28, 2013, 11:23:10 PM
Izanagi
Active skill: 3x God ATKs for 1 turn
Looks like 1.5x though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 29, 2013, 04:07:18 AM
Looks like 1.5x though.
okay thats a lot more fair

also he has Amaterasu, Yomi, and Susanoo in his background for some reason :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 29, 2013, 04:19:05 AM
okay thats a lot more fair

also he has Amaterasu, Yomi, and Susanoo in his background for some reason :V

guess who his kids arrreeeee
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 29, 2013, 04:32:25 AM
i clearly failed japanese lore class
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 29, 2013, 11:04:14 PM
No one here has a light neptune, do they?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on August 29, 2013, 11:16:27 PM
No one here has a light neptune, do they?

Mine's dark and I've got zero dubmythlits, sorry. (I can put him up anyway if you want me to though.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 29, 2013, 11:23:47 PM
Mine's dark and I've got zero dubmythlits, sorry. (I can put him up anyway if you want me to though.)

Nah, it's okay. I just want light to minimize the penalties that come when I screw up. Don't like the blue Samurai dungeon. Can't use my preferred subs. I wonder if I could use ADK with  a dark golem Echidna.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 29, 2013, 11:24:15 PM
oh shit

valk tommorow

but more importantly

NOEL DRAGONS TOMMOROW OH BABY GIMME THAT 1 MILLION EXP

also WARNING TO EVERYONE

do NOT just use them as a feeder right away

MAX level them first

then they are worth 1 MILLION EXP
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 29, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Delicious 1 million xp.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on August 29, 2013, 11:39:10 PM
Also looks like fairly good leader skill!
I think I want the blue one the most, since I already have Ares and I can super evolve my green starter (I guess I should be doing that right?)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 30, 2013, 12:37:39 AM
1m exp!??! hoooolllyyyy.
Is the drop rate 100% Is there a catch? Hard to believe you get something worth so much for just 10 stam!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 30, 2013, 12:42:27 AM
1m exp!??! hoooolllyyyy.
Is the drop rate 100% Is there a catch? Hard to believe you get something worth so much for just 10 stam!

The catch is that you can only do it once.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 30, 2013, 12:58:09 AM
and you get 1.5 mill if it's same color


you can tell which color it is by the skill it uses

but right now the skills seem to be mixed up on padx...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 30, 2013, 03:41:47 AM
I got 36 pal eggs ready for metal dragon pal thing... if I still fail to get 1 king or super I'll...I'll...take solace that I GOT HAKU AND LUCIFER AHHAHAHAHA! (yes I'm still pumped about that.. though I just wish I had a means to LEVEL lucifer since I spent all my goods on haku).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 30, 2013, 12:17:41 PM
oh shit so many things going on


alright goemon if you want to prove yourself then dont fail on this valk...

pls
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 30, 2013, 12:58:55 PM
HAHAHA NOPE YOU FUCKING FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME


and now i have 0 stones and 0 stam thank you based goemon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 30, 2013, 04:54:23 PM
HAHAHA NOPE YOU FUCKING FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME


and now i have 0 stones and 0 stam thank you based goemon

Was it heal-related?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on August 30, 2013, 05:30:10 PM
not even this time

got TWO WATER DEMONS on stage 4 (thanks obama)

failed to burst one down, it had just a bit of life left

tried to kill it with stones and stall on the second one

didnt work

now im out of 5 stones
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on August 30, 2013, 05:44:42 PM
>Awakening System

Well hey. I guess my spare odin is useful now B)

Edit: Herder update. Hades hell yeah.

Torn on rolling upcoming godfest- Four rolls for it, But high chance of Venus and Ama is tempting. On the other hand with awakening upcoming I may want to consider saving rolls to try and blitz for another Hermes at some point.

Rabbit is confused and saddened.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 30, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
Umm. This awakening thing is super vague. Is there anywhere where i can find out exactly the benefits? I mean i understand the 100% success if same skill thing, but what happens then?

Also, roman gods omgomgomgomg. I want all 5! Particularly hades and venus.
Japanese gods, less interested. I actually have 20 stones already to blow too! Eeek
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 30, 2013, 10:01:47 PM
Umm. This awakening thing is super vague. Is there anywhere where i can find out exactly the benefits? I mean i understand the 100% success if same skill thing, but what happens then?

Also, roman gods omgomgomgomg. I want all 5! Particularly hades and venus.
Japanese gods, less interested. I actually have 20 stones already to blow too! Eeek

It can be all kinds of things from what I've heard. For example, GOdin's let's him avoid binds and Yomi occasionally let's through enhanced dark orbs. The starter dragons get stat buffs, at least Tyrannos is.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 30, 2013, 11:25:47 PM
It can be all kinds of things from what I've heard. For example, GOdin's let's him avoid binds and Yomi occasionally let's through enhanced dark orbs. The starter dragons get stat buffs, at least Tyrannos is.

I see thanks, may I ask where you found this info though?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 30, 2013, 11:28:12 PM
I saw it in the P&D forums. If I had to remember where, I would guess the news in the Japanese section. They've been talking about this awakening stuff for a while.

On a related note, I hope we get that Ragnarok descended dungeon. I want a blue/green guy.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 31, 2013, 12:25:21 AM
I took a random egg. The one that said 20000000DL gave me vert.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 31, 2013, 12:27:11 AM
I got blue, pretty happy since im just 1 dublit away from evolving my siggy to his final non-ultimate.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 31, 2013, 12:28:57 AM
Am I the only one who plans on using the noel dragon as a grindy lead?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on August 31, 2013, 12:42:00 AM
What do you mean by grindy? It does t boost damage so it cant make senseless leveling faster or anything.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 31, 2013, 12:51:51 AM
What do you mean by grindy? It does t boost damage so it cant make senseless leveling faster or anything.

I don't have an Archangel.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on August 31, 2013, 01:01:16 AM
Can someone hook me up for the apk of the new update?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on August 31, 2013, 08:47:36 AM
I have an archangel and I know what you mean by grindy. The 4xrcv makes your 4xhp relevant.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on August 31, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
I max-leveled my dragon and stuffed it inside my freshly evolved Hera-IS, who jumped 60 levels as a result.

Sweet.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on August 31, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
Can someone hook me up for the apk of the new update?

I'll give it a shot if you tell me how.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 01, 2013, 01:43:43 AM
HEY HOOO SAMURAI WATER DAGON THIRD RUN

man where was my luck with shingen
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 01, 2013, 01:45:12 AM
two master water dragon runs

two drops

i dont even need this guy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 01, 2013, 01:48:11 AM
I'm just collecting the set 'cause, honestly

I only need 2 more too! : D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 01, 2013, 02:12:38 AM
Oh boy Godfest tonight! 
I've got 15 gem eggs and I could use so many of them as a sub so given my luck with these things that means I'm going to come away with like a Dryad, Cupid, and a Mystic Fire Knight who doesn't give the skill up  :V

JUST WATCH YOU GUYS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 01, 2013, 02:16:57 AM
I'm going to get a third susanoo.

It's inevitable. I swear.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 01, 2013, 02:27:35 AM
i have no stones so ?(`_`)/?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 01, 2013, 02:38:21 AM
I... have stones but I'm not even sure whether or not I want anything from this set.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 01, 2013, 03:02:45 AM
Ivory Dragon, Naga, Titan...

And Ra.

I'm not even sure what.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 01, 2013, 03:48:22 AM
Succubus (I juuust got one from dark skydragon too, yarg),
Ice golem,
Naga,
Venus...!!!
111

I can prob open one more if i get my 2 free stones before god is over.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 01, 2013, 04:03:28 AM
MLK and Kagutsuchi.  Could be worse.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Skyknight on September 01, 2013, 04:36:46 AM
Had five stones this morning (one from the 20 million celebration gift egg, four from two daily messages).

Waited until the godfest activated.

"Only" got a Machine Golem (well, three stars DOES classify as "rare"...)

Not too bothered, since I didn't have one yet. And it'll probably work better than my White Knight, once I fuse a few light creatures into it (it only showed up at L4...).

(I will admit there's one situation where I *will* buy a set of six stones--when I have no stones, but I still need to expand the monster box. One stone to expand, the other five to treat myself to the REM, whether or not anything special is planned that day.)

Still, I rather wish there were somewhat easy and/or dependable ways to get my hands on Aesir and/or Ssu-Ling.
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Post by: Nem on September 01, 2013, 04:58:55 AM
Because I always wanted a Dino Rider!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 01, 2013, 11:30:53 AM
Oh boy Godfest tonight! 
I've got 15 gem eggs and I could use so many of them as a sub so given my luck with these things that means I'm going to come away with like a Dryad, Cupid, and a Mystic Fire Knight who doesn't give the skill up  :V

JUST WATCH YOU GUYS

OK I need to assume I'm getting all garbagerolls more often because I just rolled my 3 shots and got
Suzaku
Ceres
Archangel Metatron

WELL THEN. This sure balances out the last 2 or 3 where I rolled 100% junk.  Now what sort of teams do I build? i am only used to my Ares super-red.  Do I stand a chance at any of the special one day only dungeons now?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 01, 2013, 02:33:46 PM
Suzaku will make a great lead to build a team around, especially since you can use Ares as a sub.  Well pulled!

And yes, Suzaku teams will be able to get you through nearly every dungeon.  I recommend finding some other Suzaku friends to pad your friend list.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 01, 2013, 03:19:31 PM
Oh so like my brother who got one during the last Godfest :V

What about the Metatron?  It seems like with +Healer bonus attack passive I could thrown in my Siren, Echidna, Lilith (and I guess at some point evolved Ceres?) and healbot my way through things?  Or no it'll still end badly?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 01, 2013, 03:30:10 PM
It's exceptionally good at healbot stuff but that's a pretty slow approach, whereas if you can consistently land suzaku hilarity it will take zero seconds to clear everything :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 01, 2013, 03:57:55 PM
I am 1 dungeon away from legendary earth

ie 2 dungeons away from finally "beating" this game :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 01, 2013, 05:08:58 PM
Holy shit Ancient Fire Dragon's final boss has 10 MILLION HP how the hell are you supposed to take it ou-

Quote
Ancient Fire Dragon - Tricolor
MY BODY IS READY
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 01, 2013, 05:11:07 PM
WELL THEN time to level my shiny new hilarigod :3. I wonder, is it worth trying the Two Heroes and/or Hera with what I got monored with Ares or I risk with a baby Suzaku?  The former looks doable from what I saw on the wiki assuming I don't get synced vampires cause I can clear 13k + HP for the finale with Ares/Freyr.  The latter... Uh... Maybe going hodgepodge defense with a Neptune buddy?

I told MJP I got a puzzlemon lady he'd approve of "so it's a girl in a Chinese dress showing leg?". Yup.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 01, 2013, 10:08:49 PM
I.

Puzzledragonx chose the worst time to adjust the schedule to my time, causing me to miss something.

I was going to get two runs too!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 01, 2013, 10:09:38 PM
fuck i was playing lol so i missed super kings too
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 02, 2013, 02:01:57 AM
So after getting 2 moar stones via mail i could pull another rare.
Got a mystic fire knight, which i already have too, blast.

Im still happy i got venus out of 5 pulls though. I just hope i can evolve and level my luci a decent amount before hera. Pretty sure i can handle hera withou much luck required as soon as i make my luci's hp not suck. I want a hera bad, i still have no gravity users.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on September 02, 2013, 09:40:25 AM
What is this madness.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img16/4097/68t.png)
25 combos.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 02, 2013, 10:04:46 AM
Seeing as I don't have an isis, and all my good leaders are dark. I think I'm just gonna ignore legendary ardberg.. 10k hp without a better leader than my volcano dragon. ugh. One funny thing is the boss doesn't have any multi attacks. If you have your own odin and you knew a pimped out ammy (or vice versa) with 571 rcv, you can just autoheal the boss, regardless of whatever special attacks it throws at you. I have neither though, qq. I'd have to actually TRY, and be careful and shit, with similarly bad dps, for 10m hp.. ugh... Probably sneeze or something one turn and waste 10 hours of work.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 02, 2013, 11:16:08 AM
What is this madness.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img16/4097/68t.png)
25 combos.

rng op

also missed the godfest gdi
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 02, 2013, 07:43:27 PM
Im only now just discovering how aptly named late bloomer dragons are. I thought they were named thus since they were trash until their ultimate evolution. But nope, even after hitting level 50 in their ultimate they still are closer to their level 1 stats than cap, blargh.

Normally i lvel stuff to about 50 and move on but im think80 for this guy, i hope its good by 80. Fortunaty its ruby dragon day, that should help.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 02, 2013, 08:11:38 PM
Yeah they'll be much better by 80, unfortunate as it is because hell yeah I like dem bad dagons.

Kinda wish I had more of them for EVERY COLOR :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 02, 2013, 08:14:23 PM
Im only now just discovering how aptly named late bloomer dragons are. I thought they were named thus since they were trash until their ultimate evolution. But nope, even after hitting level 50 in their ultimate they still are closer to their level 1 stats than cap, blargh.

Normally i lvel stuff to about 50 and move on but im think80 for this guy, i hope its good by 80. Fortunaty its ruby dragon day, that should help.

I'm guessing you don't have anything else to level? I don't think the late bloomers are worth it.

EDIT: Just did the master version of the Ancient Dragon Dungeon. For a boss with 7 million health, the battle was surprisingly short. The Hera fight felt like it took longer.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 03, 2013, 02:27:04 AM
Do you have any form of gravity? I do not so I'm nervous I'll die of old age, especially since all my good stuff is dark pretty much.

AS for the ifrit, yeah I could have leveled up my ares or...or...ffs, I can never remember his name.. red archangel. But I was excited about ifrit because I was gonna make it both red and blue, which means I can use a haku group using all dark and just one ifrit taking over as both red and blue without even spending the cost of 1 god character. I figured the ifrit would be not-suck by level 50 in its ultimate evolution though, if I knew I had to wait to level 80ish I may have thought otherwise, not sure... I really want some more dual element creatures in general too though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 03, 2013, 03:10:36 AM
Do you have any form of gravity? I do not so I'm nervous I'll die of old age, especially since all my good stuff is dark pretty much.

AS for the ifrit, yeah I could have leveled up my ares or...or...ffs, I can never remember his name.. red archangel. But I was excited about ifrit because I was gonna make it both red and blue, which means I can use a haku group using all dark and just one ifrit taking over as both red and blue without even spending the cost of 1 god character. I figured the ifrit would be not-suck by level 50 in its ultimate evolution though, if I knew I had to wait to level 80ish I may have thought otherwise, not sure... I really want some more dual element creatures in general too though.

I'd rather put it into Ares or Uriel, preferably Ares. You're going to want to replace Ilfrit anyway.

As for the dungeon, I have Hera, but I didn't use her. I went mono-blue.
7* I&I lvl. 57
CAD: lvl. 30
Siegfried 5* lvl. 40
5 * Siren lvl. 48
Friends 6* Hermes

I&I has 19-6-9 in +eggs and Siren has 0-0-27.
No +eggs anywhere else.

Most of my damage was combo damage.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 03, 2013, 03:42:56 AM
Yeah ancient Dagon seems pretty easy. Considering farming it for phoenix.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 03, 2013, 05:03:45 AM
ahh yeah you have the makings of a mono blue, I pretty much have nothing for blue other than siren who hits like a wet noodle, and my siggy, which isn't bad but still needs to evolve. I'm issing a blue dublit. I also would have just stuck with siggy for the same purpose of my ifrit but I underestimated how fast I could level the guy (I didn't even use my blue snowglobe dragon on him yet, waiting for his evolve then I'm burning it).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 03, 2013, 05:11:16 AM
> mark devils low priority in PADherder (only moved up from zero so materials list would care about them)
> end up working on devils anyway because they're closest to their level cap and it lets me clear out their evo materials

oooooooooooooooooops. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 03, 2013, 12:54:58 PM
oh look another berserk drop of course

i dont even care anymore
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on September 03, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img577/5316/4gaj.png)
Best overkill.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 03, 2013, 01:46:54 PM
I can't get Anubis to work, even in tricolor.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 03, 2013, 06:15:58 PM
While binds seem to be my undoing in ancient fire dragon (Aaaaa I forgot devils had them), I got a king gold dagon from the pal machine.

And Valk is 240kish from max level! Score.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 03, 2013, 07:01:14 PM
While binds seem to be my undoing in ancient fire dragon (Aaaaa I forgot devils had them), I got a king gold dagon from the pal machine.

And Valk is 240kish from max level! Score.

Yeah, I had to one-shot just about everything in order to not die. Also, why do they Devils everywhere? Why not Samurai Goblins. Devils don't let me skill up my Gigas.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 03, 2013, 07:38:19 PM
Because binds. That's their water counter :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 03, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
So did anyone vote in their poll? I voted for Astaroth.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 03, 2013, 11:39:52 PM
I avoid facebook so no, but if I did, suzakuuuuu... for loyalty.. if I was trying to strategize. viper ocochi cuz I want one and the other japanese gods are turbo meh to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 03, 2013, 11:47:25 PM
So far, according to the polls...

1st- Lucifer(50% lol)
2nd or 3rd- Horus/Kirin
4th - Great Valkyrie
 

5th seems to be the spot up for grabs.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 04, 2013, 12:50:41 AM
teehee. I have a luci, I have a luci! nyahh nyahhh.

having 2 would be good though, or 3... or 6.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 04, 2013, 12:55:14 AM
i dun facebook :derp:

also finally got highlander

time to finally replace this stupid green dragon

i want porings back though ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 04, 2013, 01:54:54 AM
I went for venus :v

(Kirin/Horus/Valk dominating makes me kind of sad since I have both. Luci is rad thou.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 04, 2013, 02:34:27 AM
i dun facebook :derp:

also finally got highlander

time to finally replace this stupid green dragon

i want porings back though ;_;

One of the reasons I don't regret throwing nine stones at two heroes. That said, I wish we had trading. I have 2 rows of Poporings and highlander is already maxed :(

I would gladly trade them away for mystic masks and Mythlits. Or a Valkyrie, but negotiating that might be a tad harder.

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Post by: ErASeR MOdER MAxiMUM on September 04, 2013, 04:29:42 AM
why am i only capable of obtaining shitty eggs from the rare egg machine????????wow

i always feel like its a big fat waste
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 04, 2013, 01:01:40 PM
why am i only capable of obtaining shitty eggs from the rare egg machine????????wow

i always feel like its a big fat waste

I like to store up a ton of eggs before I roll. If it's godfest care about, I don't really bother unless I have at least 40. Last god fest, I rolled 8 times and got only one gold.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 04, 2013, 04:55:21 PM
why am i only capable of obtaining shitty eggs from the rare egg machine????????wow

i always feel like its a big fat waste

The Rare egg machine normally has low chances to roll good stuff. Godfest is when you want to roll basically.

Rolling otherwise kinda blows (The best thing you could get is a healer girl or mystic knight really)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 04, 2013, 10:34:50 PM
mystic knights aren't very good rolls at all since they have their own event dungeons. I'd rather get toy/late bloomer dragons, etc... ninjas seem pretty bad in comparison when I look but they are hard to get otherwise so maybe they better too.

Anyway I evolved my venus twice and leveled her up to 45. So if anybody needs a love deity cosmos venus for anything (reduce light damage by 60%) ask and you shall receive.
Naturally I'm still leveling her a bit (thinking maybe to 60 unless I get another good light card), but at this point I figure she's good enough to actually use for a light dungeon now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 05, 2013, 03:35:32 AM
So, you guys do the super greens? I lack the evo mats needed to evo Highlander so everything went to Asgard. He's now lvl 73.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 05, 2013, 03:45:08 AM
FLUBBED ON ARDBERG blargh

Oh well. Tomorrows another day.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 05, 2013, 10:48:14 AM
Same, only on master to boot.. Was killing floor 5 chimeras and they both did double strike. *facedesk*

One question about legendary's water binding demon... If im mono blue does it not cast it? Or do i instantly die?

Edit: oh yeah, anyone else notice ardber's blue to light orb shift sound effect is just like the instant eraser noise in mario paint?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 05, 2013, 12:06:36 PM
When subs get bound, you lose their attack and the ability to activate their skill. When leaders get bound, it's the same except you also lose access to their leader skill. If the leader skill includes hp multiplication, your max hp goes down temporarily, which can reduce your current hp as well if it was higher than the lowered max hp. Note that active skill cooldowns continue to charge when a monster is bound.

This doesn't automatically kill you, and since bind takes up their attack it COULD save your life. It's pretty bad, though, and I wouldn't recommend bringing a mono team into a bind situation unless you're confident about burning them down first. If your whole team gets bound, you have to match orbs until the binds wear off.

Heart orbs will still heal you regardless of bind - I have heard that RCV increases from leader skills will still be in effect when the leader is bound, but I don't know whether this is true or not.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 05, 2013, 12:26:12 PM


Heart orbs will still heal you regardless of bind - I have heard that RCV increases from leader skills will still be in effect when the leader is bound, but I don't know whether this is true or not.

I don't think RCV is. It's just harder to see.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 05, 2013, 04:06:21 PM
You pretty much die because if you're running hermes him getting bound is GG.

He got bound early because master still has binds.

It was GG.

In short, binds blow.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 05, 2013, 04:08:16 PM
unless youre maullar
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 05, 2013, 06:59:52 PM
Nom nom nom pengdras.  Kagutsuchi is almost max level.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 05, 2013, 07:04:28 PM
Nom nom nom pengdras.  Kagutsuchi is almost max level.

I slept through the first set for me, oops. This 2k pal points a day during king time has been pretty great for me too though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 05, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
so many pengdra

not enough dragons .-.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 05, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
Honestly I got a huge haul yesterday. Skipping pengdras in favor of finally beating master AFD or maybe hera.

Zombie hera -theoretically- should work but...dubious on zombie.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 05, 2013, 07:32:12 PM
oh man Hera-Ur

just what my goemon team needs to continue sucking


oh hey hera tomorrow TIME TO SKILL UP MY HERA???
>N/N
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 05, 2013, 08:16:49 PM
I'd just get a hera and keep her for when awakening comes.. though chances are you'll get more hera events before that happens. Anyway, this time I think I'll be ready to no stone hera, provided someone's 60% hades shows up in my friendslist, if not, I can just double luci too I suppose.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 05, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
I'd just get a hera and keep her for when awakening comes.. though chances are you'll get more hera events before that happens. Anyway, this time I think I'll be ready to no stone hera, provided someone's 60% hades shows up in my friendslist, if not, I can just double luci too I suppose.

Mine will likely be up (or Neptune) tomorrow.  tbh I think double luci is a better strategy.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 05, 2013, 08:22:48 PM
Gimme a dark dublit and I could make that happen :V

edit; aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAA FUCK BIND FUCK BINDS FUCK BINDS, I just died only because the binds hit I&I and holy CHRIST that is fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 05, 2013, 08:36:19 PM
Well double luci better for everything that is t dark. But against dark, luci/hades is better. Plus hravity will be really nice against  2.5m hp.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 05, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
man the stone dragon dungeon is harder than i thought

you only get 2 rounds before you have to face two carbuncles that hit for 29000 damage oww
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 05, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
I will get a Hera. This dungeon is the easiest of the Descendeds, right?
Going to be using a double Lucy team, just not sure what to put in it. 2 Keepers, Siren, Lilith?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 05, 2013, 09:12:24 PM
I will get a Hera. This dungeon is the easiest of the Descendeds, right?
Going to be using a double Lucy team, just not sure what to put in it. 2 Keepers, Siren, Lilith?

Yeah, I think that setup works fine.  Maybe if you have a CDK or other dark orb changer you can sub out one of the keepers, but that setup you posted will let you breeze through the dungeon.

One thing to keep in mind is if you're going to double lucifer, you have to save both of them for Hades.  Once you use both, you should heal up as much as possible before finishing him off, but be sure to kill him before he attacks you.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 05, 2013, 09:18:35 PM
I tried twice in Two Heroes and that failed miserably, had to run mono red cause I didn't have any buddies on to rock a defence build, but I think being able to find some stray Odins for Hera tomorrow would be more likely Y/N?

I'm planning on going with Chaos Devil Dragon leader + Rainbow Keeper/Enchilada/max level Siren/(unevolved) Lilith which the internet says should work it'll just take forever.  I don't have beefy enough subs to 12.25x my way through with double Suzaku alas  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 05, 2013, 09:41:45 PM
for resist odin teams, i recommend two sirens if possible (you just need over 8213 hp to survive hades hits with resistOdin but more always helps with the stage itself) because venus and hera pounds on you every turn so you need to heal every turn or else odin wont kick in. With only one Siren you can still get screwed over with 0 hp orbs, but with 2 + echinda its almost impossible to run out

Also Echidna + Siren + Siren + Lilith has crazy high RCV and if you have a MAX Odin friend then you should meet the HP requirement easily


also if youre doing double luci you can just run 4 rainbow keepers and laugh at everything because HOLY SHIT SO MUCH HEALTH

you dont even need to worry about hades because you have so many rainbow keepers. just pop one every time hades attacks, and by the time you run out, your first rainbow keeper will be charged again
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 05, 2013, 09:51:32 PM
for resist odin teams, i recommend two sirens if possible (you just need over 8213 hp to survive hades hits with resistOdin but more always helps with the stage itself) because venus and hera pounds on you every turn so you need to heal every turn or else odin wont kick in. With only one Siren you can still get screwed over with 0 hp orbs, but with 2 + echinda its almost impossible to run out

Also Echidna + Siren + Siren + Lilith has crazy high RCV and if you have a MAX Odin friend then you should meet the HP requirement easily


also if youre doing double luci you can just run 4 rainbow keepers and laugh at everything because HOLY SHIT SO MUCH HEALTH

you dont even need to worry about hades because you have so many rainbow keepers. just pop one every time hades attacks, and by the time you run out, your first rainbow keeper will be charged again

Only problem with having a lot of healers on your team is that the devils in the first few stages can give you hell if you can't kill them fast enough. That was a problem last time I did it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 05, 2013, 10:13:42 PM
Well the problems to that plan are
1) I only have the one Siren.  I have a Shardan the second level evolution who is skill level 5 I think but absolute garbage stats so I hesitate to put him in place of Enchidna and in RK's spot I have no chance at hitting the HP because...
2) I don't know if I'll have access to a super Odin, I know there's a good chance I'll see more than the 2 non evolved ones that I can use today but I don't want to have to rely on that, as that's what did me in for 2 Heroes
3) ^^^^^ what he said about killing stage 1-4.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 01:21:57 AM
times died to stone dragon carbuncles so far: 3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 01:29:07 AM
Stage 1-4 is my issue with zombie teams too.

Also gl suikama- I'm not even touching stone dagons for a long ass time >>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 01:31:54 AM
that last try was especially painful because I tried to do it with resist stall without realizing blue dragons have friggin 150 HP. all that stalling just to die to carbuncles yet again

I think I'm just gonna try KirinIsis and just one hit everything

...once i have my poor stamina back
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 01:44:18 AM
Meanwhile I fuck up on AFD Master again.

./facedesk
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 01:53:56 AM
AFD master took me 2 tries to clear even on master despite all my isis practice

thing is 7 million hp is a metric fuckton even with double isis madness, so you're going to need to have enough RCV to live for quite a number of turns ( i think it took me around 20ish turns to take it down)

i used Isis, Siren, Berserk, Echidna, Green Dragon, Isis

dual chimeras are instantly killed using berserk's skill to make a bajillion water matches. remember separate matches are stronger than combined ones (for example 2 matches of 3 water orbs is stronger than 1 match of 6 orbs) so after activating berserk try to separate the water orbs so you have as many matches as possible while still getting at least 1 green and 1 red match

make sure to stall enough so you can Echidna before the boss gets a single turn, because he puts up a guard immediately. you can stall a bit on Boss Echidna if need be since she has a chance of doing nothing or just messing with your orbs

during the boss fight, match shit like crazy, focusing mostly on water orbs. If he uses his orb change skill, pop berserk and then try to clear all the light orbs as you combo. Use Siren when necessary.

also i just realized i could have used Uriel to not give a fuck about the light orb change but whatever, there's still legend i guess...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 01:59:59 AM
Really I just either accidentally fail to match hearts or get precision bound on a leader.

By all means I should've had a win last night but...bluh. At this rate just spamming expert seems like a better idea. >:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 02:33:09 AM
man i was wondering how satan was possible

then i saw a video of him being cleared with goemon

goemon skill + horus + freyr = 1 shot satan

he has 6666666 hp

ho ly shit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 02:46:31 AM
So I need a goemon! Noted.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 03:05:19 AM
if you wanna pull that off you also need freyr and parvati

both of whom are REM only

welp at least you can sub horus with pheonix or hera-ur
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 06, 2013, 03:26:21 AM
Why would you WANT satan for anything other rhan a goeman team?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 03:47:12 AM
if you wanna pull that off you also need freyr and parvati

both of whom are REM only

welp at least you can sub horus with pheonix or hera-ur

I -have- horus and freyr which is why I said that you doofus :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 06, 2013, 06:14:09 AM
I -have- horus and freyr which is why I said that you doofus :v

reminder that Chaore's collection is ridic (http://www.padherder.com/user/ChaoreLance/sets/)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 12:43:37 PM
holy shit Ra, Susanoo, AND Orochi how have you not beaten this game yet

Ra, Echidna, Susanoo, Orochi, Hades is pretty much my dream team. no boss can stop this onslaught of pure damage
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 06, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
So I've been doing Hera's dungeon for ??? how long and just made it to Minerva!  Had to use a stone on Venus cause I lifted my finger too early and WHOOPS.  But man I'm relying on poison anyway because depending on what colors I combo I ain't breaking that defence  :ohdear:  At least it's practice for Neptune?

But my logic is spending a few stones given I have dismal luck during Godfests (this last one was the exception) is worth it to get a superpuzzlemon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 03:46:58 PM
you can speed things up a little bit by making small 1 combos on turns where you're already full hp and there's no threat of damage, since poison ticks every turn you can speed up your damage by plowing through unimportant turns, especially during hades where after he lands a hit and you heal to full, you get a few turns where nothing happens

just be careful that you dont forget to heal all the way to full :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 06, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
Yay I win the prize :toot:  Man am I glad you can just close the lid and put the game on pause otherwise I don't even know what I'd probably have cried.

just be careful that you dont forget to heal all the way to full :derp:
:derp: :derp: :derp: Did this once when I got distracted the turn right after I had used the Siren and my delay was still on cooldown.  Hahaha that was a bit scary but after using all 3 turns of the emergency OHSHIT Rainbow Keeper skill + super massive wombo 10x cascade combo with 3 sets of hearts I caught back up.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 06:59:53 PM
holy shit Ra, Susanoo, AND Orochi how have you not beaten this game yet

Ra, Echidna, Susanoo, Orochi, Hades is pretty much my dream team. no boss can stop this onslaught of pure damage

Surprisingly Evolving and leveling all this stuff is hard. :v

Ra and Susanoo are new acquires too- Honestly atm I'm more interested in dagon dungeons (War, Ancients) and leveling/evolving than plowing through errything.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 06, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
i have so many stupid dragons from these dungeons lets tra-wait shit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 07:35:18 PM
...I think you completely misinterpreted what I said :v

also -fuck binds- again.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 06, 2013, 08:00:17 PM
Im currently at hera herself, she's got like 66% health left and my twin lucis have about 6 more turns until they can nuke again. 0 stones so far but her herself is giving me some pretty hairy moment.
Heart orbs havent totally abandoned me yet but there hVe been a few times where i make like an 8 combo and only get 1 or 2 more hearts out of the deal.

Really wishing i had a hades instead of luci at this point =p. i also wish i took ecchi-nida instead of my 68 vampire lord. I knew his active would be near useless (was actually good for killing hades in time though), but i wasnt sure if id have enough hp to survive hades without his x4 hp.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 06, 2013, 11:13:18 PM
Beat Hera again. No stones this time. I even got a mystic dark knight out of it. Maxed out Sirens are beautiful things. Now on to Zeus/Valkyrie.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 11:46:06 PM
Hmm.

I could gather myth/dubmythlits for the multiple things I need to evolve, try hera and engage in shenaniganry that might nab me a shiny.

Or I can infuriate myself by trying and messing up on the same thing.

Ten bucks I know what I'm trying!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 06, 2013, 11:46:47 PM
Hmm.

I could gather myth/dubmythlits for the multiple things I need to evolve, try hera and engage in shenaniganry that might nab me a shiny.

Or I can infuriate myself by trying and messing up on the same thing.

Ten bucks I know what I'm trying!

What's your team look like?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 06, 2013, 11:53:09 PM
My Mono-blue for AFD is Hermes/Sieg/MechWarrior/Siren/FenrirKnight/I&I. It can reach and beat ardberg I just keep messing up or getting binds on I&I or Hermes.

My collection for building a Hera team is Here. I'd run an Odin/Resist I'd think. (http://www.padherder.com/user/ChaoreLance/#1048575)

And for mythlits I have Shiva. :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 06, 2013, 11:55:31 PM
3 stones for two heras and  MIK. Now I have to level them ...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 07, 2013, 01:54:12 AM
I had to blow 2 stones on hera.. once because the game pulled one of those surprise 16 orb combos out of nowhere when I was at near full health, took ALL my heart orbs, and didn't give me ONE in return.. and failed to do so like 6 turns after. yay.. the 2nd time was just me derping twice in like 5 turns (I was stressed ok? qq)

hopefully now that edible has a hades for me to use it'll be easier (2.5X effective hp and rcv instead of 2.0x for hera (and hades, who incidently was the 2nd hardest boss), as well as massive dps increase without the hp sacrifice via gravity, yay!).

I also am using ecchi-nida for my last slot instead of vampire lord, would have been better even with luci's 2x bonus, but now I have one less luci so not only is it better anyway, but I sacrifice less stats to boot.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 07, 2013, 03:47:55 AM
Wait I'm supposed to go fetch multiple Heras?
Forget that noise I'm not wasting X many hours doing that slogfest of a dungeon again  :colbert: 

Once she evolves Hera's gonna be a star member in my future Astaroth counterattack devil hilari-team ohoho.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 07, 2013, 03:56:46 AM
well you can use hera against her own dungeon which speeds things up by a lot :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 07, 2013, 04:06:17 AM
I only want multiple herea's so I can "awakening" mode her up as soon as we get it... also because I want to try again without stones just for pride.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 07, 2013, 04:18:16 AM
well you can use hera against her own dungeon which speeds things up by a lot :derp:

If only I could. I don't have the slots for it. I need the double Sirens for Hera and the golem for Neptune. I guess I could put her in over Rainbow Keeper, but I find that kind of risky.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 07, 2013, 06:11:55 AM
In the dungeon for my fourth Hera. Gee I must really like this dungeon.
 :colonveeplusalpha:
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Post by: Ghaleon on September 07, 2013, 07:02:31 AM
argh... killed hera for the 2nd time like 2 seconds too late.. wanted to sneak in one last friday dungeon after.. whyyyy. I would have done that before hera but I was scared if I did hades would go away. Speaking of hades, it was wayyy easier to do it with hades instead of a 2nd luci imo. Though the echnida was alot of help too.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 07, 2013, 02:13:17 PM
tried hera ice, died to binds, wasted a stone, died again

then i said fuck this and did ocean of heaven

got two mystic masks, one metal king, and one + egg

im okay with this
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 07, 2013, 07:36:03 PM
Ahahaha what the shit I'm getting random leader binds and double full team binds even on expert now wow this game fucking hates me
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 08, 2013, 03:17:31 AM
God this event's been good to me. Got Fenrir Knight, Horus, and Bastet maxed and then evolved, Hermes maxed (still need a mystic mask and dubmythlit for his evo though), a couple dozen levels on Ama-oo...

(Also evolved Agdrall but I had him and Shaitan maxed already and just needed some more evo materials.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 08, 2013, 05:08:09 AM
Fourth REM pull on this app install.
Third Archangel Raphael appearance.
 :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 08, 2013, 05:09:47 AM
If you don't mind rerolling for this game, I would suggest trying to roll a Suzaku.

In other news, I rolled a Freyr. Yay.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 08, 2013, 05:28:15 AM
Fourth REM pull on this app install.
Third Archangel Raphael appearance.
 :colonveeplusalpha:

If you're going to reroll, I'd suggest do it during a godfest. The next one should be this coming Saturday.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: The Greatest Dog on September 08, 2013, 06:08:44 AM
I've just gotten to the Castle of Satan and I heard that there's a really large difficulty spike after this point.
I mean, I've been managing without any issues running Raphael, Angel, some miscellaneous light mobs, a Super Gold King Dragon that I lucked into, and a friend's Baal or Apollo. It's just that I have no idea what to expect from herein because I have two extra Raphaels just chilling in my monster box.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 08, 2013, 10:17:23 AM
personally I never really had any issues of castle of satan or what came after it, but persephone is a pretty strong starting god. But yeah I basically just had persephone, 2 dublits, a lunar moonragon (or was it still just the non ultimate one?) and a random ripper I think?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 08, 2013, 12:12:06 PM
Well, that's confusing. Account names on Padherder are case-sensitive. I think that's the first place I've seen that.
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Post by: Edible on September 08, 2013, 03:49:41 PM
Argh argh argh

Hera-Ur didn't drop in 3 runs.  I'll have enough to run it again later today, but now I have no more stones and I seem to need at least two to beat it. :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 04:25:21 PM
fuck

hera-ur's stage is so trivially easy

then hera herself shows up and fucks my shit up

all i need to do was stall for gravities and one hit her

but 14.5k every turn is just too much


Quote
You'll only need to heal once every three turns on hera
the fuck are these guides on
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 04:36:24 PM
wait was i supposed to gravity hera ur right away so she doesn't use water bind? does she not bind anymore if she's below 50%?

if so then FUCK

Quote
You take LESS damage once she's under 50% due to protection, but wait on binds to end first
also if so then fuck this guy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 08, 2013, 05:48:32 PM
Question for people who did Valk descended. If you get her below 50% before she attacks, does she use the sheild first, or does she recover?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
welp this game is finally out for iOS in canada

oh god someone stop me im gonna end up starting a new account next godfest pls no
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Post by: Labuto on September 08, 2013, 06:35:49 PM
(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/4580/h58w.png)

Mystical 8 stones ㄟ( ̄▽ ̄ㄟ)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 06:59:40 PM
8 stones ㄟ( ̄▽ ̄ㄟ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahCgADqInX8
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 08, 2013, 07:21:04 PM
Yeeahhh Ur isn't even that awesome. Pass plz.

edit: http://www.padherder.com/user/ChaoreLance/teams/ never let me mess around with team editors
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 08:27:12 PM
i need Ur to beat King of Gods so I can "beat" this game :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 08:54:26 PM
LETS TRY HERA UR AGAIN!!!

>enter mythical by accident

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 08, 2013, 09:03:10 PM
and then suikama died horribly

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Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 09:14:21 PM
"well maybe I can at least stall for a bit and"

>dies to first hit

thats okay i had better things to do anyways
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 08, 2013, 09:16:17 PM
Yeah hera ur seemed kinda lame to me compared to the other 2 but that active would go nicely in my haku team.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
her leader ability is really good though, she's pretty much a dark Valkyre

Hera Ur, King Baddie, Vamp, Two Gravities for holy shit burst potential

plow through stages with x9 damage and one hit bosses with x2 gravity + King Baddie + vamp + her ability = stronger burst than Valk

in fact it's strong enough to one hit Satan...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 09:31:17 PM
fuck now i really need her
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 08, 2013, 09:32:21 PM
Oh neat. Maybe I should work out how to get her with what I have then.

Hmmm.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 08, 2013, 11:06:53 PM
OKAY LETS GO AGAIN

>Ogre binds Lucifer
>next turn one hits me

phone off, i'm done
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Post by: Jq1790 on September 08, 2013, 11:38:19 PM
Decided to try picking this back up again a day or two ago after another hiatus partially brought on by a stint without internet.

In two days of pulling from the Pal machine thanks to the bonus 2k Pal Points I managed I think 3 gold eggs, one of which was a Super Gold Dragon(Other two were a Ruby King and one I forgot, I think Sapphire King or something.).  Was pretty happy about the Super King Gold, since it'll help my Harpie once I get her evolved(Been too lazy to farm the demon masks and such.)

Also got my Present Egg that day.  That's what turns into those Noel Dragons, right?  The ones worth a million Exp when evolved and fully leveled?
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Post by: O4rfish on September 08, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
I wouldn't feed a super king to a demon. You can get a lil white from pal eggs. Feed it to a holy dragon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 09, 2013, 12:06:11 AM
wait shit Devil teams even get drawn joker as a healer

So Hera Ur teams have everything Valk teams have except for no Menace in exchange for an even stronger burst
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 09, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
wait shit Devil teams even get drawn joker as a healer

So Hera Ur teams have everything Valk teams have except for no Menace in exchange for an even stronger burst

It is highly expected that orochi will be devil subtype soon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 09, 2013, 12:28:35 AM
well fuck

everyone get a hera ur

welcome to new meta


well at least i can isis-hera ur ally for poverty combo <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 09, 2013, 01:04:50 AM
Oh man that really sounds neat.

...I don't really think I have a team that could try it though. Hmm.

Edit: Maybe ad-hoc Horus something? Brute force always works.

EditEdit: Would've worked except I can't 4x combo for shit because I'm not a ridiculous wizard like everyone fucking else and a normal human being fuck everything
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 09, 2013, 05:17:13 AM
4 colour combos arent even possible like half the time. There are plenty of times i cant even do 3 with haku, and not cuz i eff up, but there simply arent the proper mixture of orbs to do so.

Granted saving orbs is part of the strategy and stuff but you cant really do that during round 1... Its always the round 1s that get me if anything =p.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 09, 2013, 09:26:08 AM
Blodin is my first seven-star, and my first dual type not including Devil as one of the types. Seriously, why does Devil get appended to everything dark or mean looking?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on September 09, 2013, 09:50:49 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img600/8549/7kd6.png)

Hooray, finally maxed my Odin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 09, 2013, 02:34:14 PM
Well, I got another shot at Hera-Ur last night and she didn't drop again (for like... the fifth time, go figure).  But I can now zero-stone the dungeon, since I leveled up and could field Abyss Neptune, Inferno Hades, Awoken Hera-Is, Siren the Enchantress, and an RK to go along with a friend's lucifer.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 09, 2013, 02:49:56 PM
i used the exact same team

how did you 0 stone hera herself

did you dual gravity immediately to get her to her second form so you could dark resist?

but then if she water binds you lose neptune resist for 10 turns...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 09, 2013, 02:55:49 PM
She's never used water bind on me.  My strategy is thus:

1) Beat up on ogres, charge skills.  Not difficult.

2) One-shot dragon with lucifer

3) One-shot ifrit with neptune

4) Double gravity on Minerva to get her to go dark, charge skills, finish with lucifer

5) Immediately double-gravity Hera-Ur and heal to full, charge skills, double gravity and lucifer to finish (being careful NOT to get her to 25%)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 09, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
She's never used water bind on me.
fuck shit fuck

i could have beat her

but nooo "MAKE SURE YOU WAIT OUT HER BINDS FIRST"


also isnt it easier to deal with Minerva red with neptune poison and just luci her right before she hits 50%? then you dont have to deal with dark bind at all and you still have double gravity up right away. Also when she's above 50% she does nothing but hit for 5k a turn which is trivally easy to deal with
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 09, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
Minerva's dark bind is annoying but I had the HP to deal with it even with lucifer and neptune bound, so I just ate it (plus she only does it once).  I guess your way makes sense too, I just never needed to change up from my Minerva strategy since she didn't really do anything troublesome
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 10, 2013, 12:38:52 AM
Just cleared Ancient Fire Dragon on Legend difficulty. Now I just need to do intermediate for the stone.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 10, 2013, 01:29:32 AM
hyorin strong

teach me your ways sensei
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 10, 2013, 02:07:41 AM
hyorin strong

teach me your ways sensei

Subs were dual Sirens(max skill), maxed out Earth Guardian(skill lvl 5), and Siegfried(max skill.) With a Hermes I had a little less than 20k health. Priorities were Demons-Moltdras-Chimeras-Devils. Stalled a turn so Siren and Sieg came up by the time the hell devils showed up. Popped both Siren and Berserk and one shot the fire demon.

Once I reached Alraune, it was just a matter of out healing the damage they did. The important thing was that if I was half health, I'd need at least 2 rows of  3 hearts in order to guarentee that I could tank the next hit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 10, 2013, 02:49:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/HXdolX5.png)

i hope you're hungry Cu Chulainn
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on September 10, 2013, 02:53:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/HXdolX5.png)

i hope you're hungry Cu Chulainn
That's...a lot of penguins.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 10, 2013, 02:54:10 AM
Lol, that's what I fed my haku when I got her.. only upgraded too. I had no greens so why not... light are way more than 50% harder to feed anyway so the 33% reduction on exp for wrong colour isn't really a biggie.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 10, 2013, 07:24:29 AM
OH BOY TIME TO FARM NAGAS ALL DAY there is no way this will end well

EDIT: HUZZAH I got one. Now to get a billion more to hoard to skill her up. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 10, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
Can ios users add android users in PAD? My friend is going to start playing today an di want pal points, so im curious.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 10, 2013, 01:10:19 PM
I assume so. We have one list for Shrinemaiden members, and nobody's reported being unable to find people.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 10, 2013, 05:44:31 PM
I think the only incompatibility comes from trying to transfer accounts between iphone and android systems.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 10, 2013, 06:04:20 PM
wtf the iOS version of this game has ACHIEVEMENTS?!

android versions are always shafted huh


rofl i pulled ares
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on September 10, 2013, 06:09:27 PM
Do the achievements DO anything?  If not, then they're useless,so good on the Droids for not getting useless crap.  Now if you got Pal points or something...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 10, 2013, 06:16:40 PM
no they just seem to be filler


also first dungeon i tried was red dragons because hey its easy right

nope :V


Quote
New Collab: Dragon's Dogma & Monster Hunter @JP
goddaaaamnnnnnn
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on September 10, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
That Naga dungeon is a piece of crap.  -_-

Four times now, not a single Naga has even shown up, much less been captured.

Do the higher difficulties have higher Naga rates?  (boss drops excluded, since I would assume those do by default.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 10, 2013, 07:18:18 PM
no idea

but yeah even on expert Naga boss drop rate is like 5% it's dumb
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 10, 2013, 07:39:07 PM
So like after feeding like 20 marine goblins to my siren during 2x skill event she skills up just once.

Just now im out of bag space so i opt to feed allmy damn low ninjas to each other to use them to level something else up later... Skill up, skill up, skill up, skill up. Wdf!??!?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 10, 2013, 07:41:02 PM
pretty much

i wouldnt be surprised if rare monsters had a hidden lower skill up chance or something like that
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 10, 2013, 07:50:58 PM
but yeah even on expert Naga boss drop rate is like 5% it's dumb

Yeah Naga just has shit for drop rate everywhere lol. :V

So glad I never had to grind Sirens because the pal machine crapped me out a Mermaid one day o/ (and thank god she can skill up off other shit)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 10, 2013, 10:59:35 PM
I have six god damn tyras. AFD WHY YOU DROP SO MANY TYRAS ;W;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 10, 2013, 11:18:36 PM
I have six god damn tyras. AFD WHY YOU DROP SO MANY TYRAS ;W;

so you can make the best awakened tyra ever
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on September 11, 2013, 01:48:11 AM
I got one, I got one, I got one~!

Finally.  Dropped from the boss, no less. (http://imgur.com/NM1CJhi)

Now to see if I can get lucky and get another for the chance to skill up?  Or should I just be happy and work on progression now?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 11, 2013, 01:56:54 AM
Echidna is pretty great and used in a lot of teams even at zero skillups, so.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 11, 2013, 04:27:34 AM
I have to say. The Echidna dungeon has been pretty nice to me. I'd show you if I could, but you guys don't seem to like phoneception pictures.  I ran it all day(no stones) and have about 9 Nagas to show for it.

I hope for awakening they make material dungeons more lucrative.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 11, 2013, 04:54:52 AM
You lucky sunnova bitch :V

I've gotten none. I already have one and a spare, but still.

Edit: Oh Shit Sky dagon rush.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 04:41:06 PM
dat godfest

well at least it's 100% drop oh damn

also satan in 2 days what gungho pls warn us beforehand (not like i have a chance in hell of beating him but eh)


oh shit tower of jewel

mythlits pls

also dragonsss
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 12, 2013, 05:43:46 PM
The sticker girls really aren't much use besides being adorable so 100% on them is fine by me.

The only ones I'd really want is Mitsuki because her final is beautiful really, Fuu because double heart conver for healer team, and Kano to keep base forever because she is fucking -adorable-

Which mind you is 3/5 of them so fuck

Sky dagon rush seems like another 'chao gotta combo' thing. ;w;

And from the lack of specified time, Sticker girls might be around a while. Neat.

Also Goemon and Hera showing up. Maybe I can cheese 'em this time :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 12, 2013, 06:06:16 PM
I want dat Satan. *_*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 06:21:34 PM
The sticker girls really aren't much use besides being adorable so 100% on them is fine by me.

The only ones I'd really want is Mitsuki because her final is beautiful really, Fuu because double heart conver for healer team, and Kano to keep base forever because she is fucking -adorable-

Which mind you is 3/5 of them so fuck

Sky dagon rush seems like another 'chao gotta combo' thing. ;w;

And from the lack of specified time, Sticker girls might be around a while. Neat.

Also Goemon and Hera showing up. Maybe I can cheese 'em this time :v
the sticker girl thing counts as a godfest so it only lasts a day

I want dat Satan. *_*
should be okay with a mostly light healer team, as long as you can burst satan down

..actually if you can get echidna off then he really shouldnt be that hard
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 12, 2013, 06:45:31 PM
Suikama: ding dong you are wrong, this is what PDX put it down as yes but not what the actual event posts have said

They've said nothing about it being a 'godfest'.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
i dont see why they would make it last long than a day though because it means you can't get anything else from the REM for that period of time
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 12, 2013, 07:14:15 PM
It's a seperate REM you doofus.

Like. Entirely seperate from the normal REM.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 07:19:43 PM
pssh who uses facebook
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 12, 2013, 07:20:28 PM
It even says so on PDX!

You are just an omega doofus.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
i dont see


also are awakening skills set or random? the reveals seem to imply they are set, which i guess lets them fine tune the balance of each monster although it seems more likely that REM monsters are gonna get all the good stuff (like Odin)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 12, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
It's a special REM- Not typical REM. I imagine it's still slightly confusing because really why are you avertising this as a godfest, but still :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 08:31:08 PM
man i really hope goemon and hera get the skill boost skills

imagine max skilled goemon/hera with skill boost

no more stalling just plow through everything

also max skill + skill boost echidnas+rkeeper, stall forever (unless they have skill guard of course)


oh man mono teams with orb enhance, damage enhance, AND bind resist

they're probably planning on making some crazy hard dungeons soon...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 12, 2013, 08:51:04 PM
Goemon gets Blind Resistance and fire enhanced orbs.

Hera gets Dark Resist, Dark Enhance Orbs, and more attack.

None of the healer girls have skill boost, so you'd need it from something else.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 09:10:41 PM
man odin...

gungho why do you like odin so much
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 12, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Both Odin and Metatron got good shit.

Fitting for how rare they are I guess?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 09:23:07 PM
goddammit i just knew green dragons were gonna be tommorow at the same time as tower of jewel

guess i'll have to spend my free stone on stamina
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 12, 2013, 10:32:59 PM
The arc where the low ninjas ask Mitsuki for help is cute.
*Flame Tail Assault* AH!? We don't have tails!
*Water Bind* Blue! He's crying even though he can't move!
*Smile Alluringly* What does this even do!?

Wait, is Mitsuki even in a dungeon?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 12, 2013, 10:34:22 PM
Wait, is Mitsuki even in a dungeon?

Yeah, she's a boss in Shingen's dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 12, 2013, 10:34:52 PM
she's also the boss before goemon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 13, 2013, 12:42:51 AM
Wait so if the Awoken Skills list is translated right I have boss poison and blind attacks I have to worry about in the endgame super dungeons?
 :ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 12:46:51 AM
blind attacks already exist in super dungeons

funny thing is they usually are a good thing for you because that means you get a turn where you don't get hurt and you can clear the the blindness by swiping over each orb quickly (but it eats into your allowed orb move time)

also you can still see which orbs are hearts ones cause they are square so you can just pick up a square, wave it around, then make a heart match to heal up


poison attacks dont exist yet though

they sound like... fun
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Post by: Edible on September 13, 2013, 01:09:18 AM
poison attacks dont exist yet though

they sound like... fun

Much like preemptive attacks, I suspect they exist as a check on lucifer
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Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 01:18:14 AM
would it really counter lucifer? he heals so much that it wouldn't be so different than getting hit for 20k every turn or w/e

unless poison was used by normal enemies

and it STACKS

yay for Ra/Sakuya being the only fully legit team <_<


also itsthursday.png
(http://i.imgur.com/PsSh30I.png)
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Post by: hyorinryu on September 13, 2013, 01:30:09 AM
Much like preemptive attacks, I suspect they exist as a check on lucifer

I dunno. Luci does a lot of healing. I think it would give people who aren't as bulky more trouble(Horus, Kirin.) As it is, a well made Kirin team can clear pretty much any dungeon it wants.
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Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 01:37:09 AM
also fuck goemon
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Post by: Ghaleon on September 13, 2013, 04:37:56 AM
Argh. Im having no luck farming dragon plants. Ive never seen thursday suck this bad ever. Im getting about one plant every FOUR runs. Whyyyyyy
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Post by: Thaws on September 13, 2013, 04:52:05 AM
also you can still see which orbs are hearts ones cause they are square so you can just pick up a square, wave it around, then make a heart match to heal up

Actually, you can hold onto each orb, then you can see what orb you're holding, that put it back without moving, and repeat it for every orb on the screen.
Then you can actually plan your path, because every turn makes a difference when you're fighting stuff like Zeus Dios' battle 1.
or you can just print screen right before it uses the blind, but where's the fun in that? :V
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 13, 2013, 07:08:35 AM
Next godfest is tomorrow (Saturday) at 8 PDT, it's Egyptian and Greek 2.0 (the mono-color buff cycle with the combination mystic knight/heartbreaker skills).
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Post by: Labuto on September 13, 2013, 10:26:35 AM
(http://imageshack.us/a/img827/1460/knpp.png)

Yum.

Edit: Sticker girls are adoreable, Too bad I don't have stones though.
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Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 12:48:38 PM
Next godfest is tomorrow (Saturday) at 8 PDT, it's Egyptian and Greek 2.0 (the mono-color buff cycle with the combination mystic knight/heartbreaker skills).
oh shit

time to reset for a ra? :derp:
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Post by: Edible on September 13, 2013, 01:29:30 PM
11 nagas, 1 skillup.  Thanks a lot, gungho. :|
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Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 01:39:38 PM
well at least you can be a bit happier about your Metatron because goddamn those 4 gods get double the skills of everyone else AND they get the fucking good ones

3 skill boosts on BOdin alone. A team of all BOdins gets nuke city from turn one rofl


ROFL Phoenix gets heal every turn ability which means awaken phoenix is actually terrible for Goemon ie. fuck you goemon


OH SHIT ISIS

SO MANY ENHANCED ORBS

YES MORE DAMAGE THIS IS ALL I COULD HAVE ASKED FOR

ISIS 4 LYFE


>goemon
>blind resist
>fuck you

ahaha the auto heal on phoenix is even the FIRST awaken skill he gets ie. fuck. you.


oh man i just realized the potential for new team types like double resist with all auto heal subs SO MUCH TANKING FOR SO LITTLE EFFORT
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Post by: triangles on September 13, 2013, 03:08:44 PM
4 nagas, 2 skillups :toot:
2 space invaders, 1 skillup :toot:

I'll be able to roll only once on the Godfest, but it looks pretty good and I had very good luck on the last one so here's hoping (nope I'll be getting another toyceratops)
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Post by: Yukarin on September 13, 2013, 03:51:58 PM
Will also be rolling once in the Godfest.

Freyr as a leader has really been helping me. Her skill is goddamn excellent (for now) and a helper Suzaku is actually making my life easier.

I want a Haku tho.

Oh right also got Fuu. Yay.
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Post by: Ghaleon on September 13, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
4 nagas 0 skillups, big surprise.
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Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 04:23:41 PM
oh boy time for tier list

Useless Tier
Damage resist skills: Sounds great, except it only resists by a pitiful 2%. Multiple of them stack but since resists stack mutiplicatively a whole team with an element resist would only total to like 10% damage reduction rofl. Pretty much only owned by rippers and toy dragons anyways so you won't even get that much. uselessss
Smokescreen resist: lol. I guess it does give you a chance of a free turn but so do the other effect resists and they actually block dangerous things. This and jammer resist seem to be thrown on monsters who are already pretty powerful as a "nerf" like on Kirin and Echidna (and two on Goemon because fuck you). At least Kirin makes some use of it because she needs to see the board for combos so for her + echinda it might count as meh/decent especially if the block chance is 50% (and Kirin gets +orbs).
Jammer resist: COME ON AND SLAM, IF YOU WANNA JAM (also haha kirin)
Extend time: 0.5 seconds wow, although that would mean 3 seconds for a whole team which might sound good for like a Ra team but guess what Ra doesn't even get this ability :D At least Anubis gets it which is pretty much the only use for this skill... also yomi has it rofl
Damage enhance: Well it had potential to be good, but then it turns out that you need to match an ENTIRE row of 6 for just a 10% boost. And apparently that boost is just for the monsters that have that ability? Not really sure on the details yet, but if that is true then this skill sits firmly in the garbage tier as it only adds as much as a dual element and the subs that get this ability generally have no use for it or are useless themselves (except for maybe Lucifer and dark metatron). If it applied to everyone on the team then it would be potentially top tier as you could stack them for 50% or more damage boosts on full line combos in mono teams... except you would not be able to really stack them because most of the subs that have this ability suck aside from norse gods, dark meta and satan.

Meh Tier
Poison resist?: No idea how strong poison will be, but still it's only a chance of resisting which means there's a chance of this skill being absolutely useless :D Also pretty much the only one who gets this is Neptune so I guess this is to help win poison battles? :V
Stat boost: Basically 10 +eggs. Not game changing but still kinda nice. Seems to be kinda filler skill for already strong subs like Lucifer (lol +150 atk), but hey free stats. Also a bit more useful on people who typically need a lot of +eggs... well namely Valk who gets +HP and +atk and definitely needs them both.

Decent Tier
Bind resist: Sounds really good, until you realize that it only works on the monster who has that ability, and even then it's only a chance of resisting it (although it might be 50%). Well at least the toy dragons get it so they can avoid potentially dangerous leader binds... Oh wait shit Ammy and Odin get two of these well that's a big plus especially if the resist chance turns out to be like 50% because then that means UNBINDABLE ODINAMMY TEAMS YEAH!
Bind recovery: Now THIS is more like it. On bind bosses just pop Siren and heal those binds away! However it does need 6 heart orbs in a line to work like damage enhance, and it only reduces binds by one turn (two for two lines though), it can save your ass from full team binders like Hera-Is....wait fuck Siren doesn't get this ability. The only heart makers that get this are the sticker girls... well guess it's time to use that pink dragon machine :V

Oh goody tier
Auto Heal: Only heals 500, but hell its every turn for FREE. Useless for any team with HP multipliers, but potentially AMAZING for double resist teams. Also can counter poison :3 It also seems to act as a buff to the two useless healer girls Alarune and Archangel as they get two of these, so +1000 HP heal per turn woo (although Siren is probably still better even with her crappy blind resist :V). Sticker girls get this too so basically yes Sticker girls are gonna be good. shit i dont have any stones to roll for one aaaaa

OH BABY ITS TIME TO GET THAT TIGER
+Orbs: Fucking amazing for mono teams as that's a free damage multiplier every turn. Apparently with enough of them you can get guaranteed +orbs (I dont know the exact % chance of appearing yet but apparently having 6 of the skill will guarantee it). Just making 3 matches of one color nets a 1.5x damage bonus; equivalent to the norse gods but for every turn! Also kinda makes subs with enhance orb abilities kinda useless! Sorry Hera-Is and Horus, but you guy were kinda OP anyways :V On top of all that, all of the heart makers, mystic knights, beefy stat dragons, and golems get this skill for their element, and also Hera, so basically standard mono teams can get almost guaranteed +orbs easily (although most leaders don't get this ability aside from Parvati so you can't get guarenteed unless you forgo hp/rcv multipliers and go full attack with two dragon leaders lol) . Zeus/That new japanese god Izanagi gets a HUMONGOUS buff as they can get guaranteed Light orbs with Valk and Verche. ALSO MOTHERFUCKING ISIS YEAH
Skill boost: God tier skill right here. Basically a free skill up FOR EVERYONE ON YOUR TEAM HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Well not AS good because it only applies once, but still pretty fucking good. But man the fact that it applies to not just the monster itself but EVERYONE on your team is crazyyy. With enough of these you can start with heartbreakers fully charged to ensure your mono team has damage from the get go. On top of that King Bubblie, Ogres, Archdemons, BOdin, Tengu, and Stone Dragons all get multiple of this ability. Most notable are the stone dragons and tengu as with enough of them + skill ups, you can "start" with a resist and still have whatever other leader you want! (ie. ISIS OH BABY YES) also king bubblie is a boon for goemon i gueeeesssss
Two-way attack: it's not gay, if it's in a one, two, three way~ (this is a joke, this skill sucks)


tl;dr
So basically awakened skills are a RIDICULOUS buff to Zeus/Izanagi who gets free 100% +orbs on top of the standard super gravity and 1.5x damage boost (rofl so yeah Izanagi is still op), and a HUGE buff to mono/chinese girl teams who get lots of free +orbs and OdinAmmy teams that get potential bind immunity and a ton of free heals and skill boosts.
Also buffs to sticker girls with bind clearing, the two crappy healers with free +1000 hp regen, toy dragons who get potential bind resist and free heals from buffed healers, stone dragon teams that get tons of free skill boosts, and golems + beefy dragons in general since they all get the two best skills: +Orbs and Skill boost. Looks like dem Dragons are taking the name back :V
Special mention goes to Siegfried teams because they get tons of skill boosts and water orbs from King bubblie, Water Golem, Light Neptune, and other Siegfrieds.
Also Goemon I gueeessss because of the free enhance orbs and skill boosts they get from king bubblie who for some reason got the better deal of the slimes.


But of course the biggest buff of all was to tricolor Isis holy shit yes <3 I think I'm gonna make an entire new post just to talk about how fucking good Isis is gonna be <3
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Post by: hyorinryu on September 13, 2013, 05:41:11 PM
I wouldn't be so quick to write ODF Phoenix autoheal in goemon. with preemptives everywhere and future poisons, it might actually be good.
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Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 05:45:57 PM
So Isis has always been one of the most versatile leader in the same as you can pretty much stick any subs you want with her and it will work. While this allows her to easily plow through all but the toughest dungeons, she's pretty much useless in any endgame dungeon because she can neither stall nor burst enough to survive them. With the addition of stone dragons stalling suddenly became more viable for her, and now with the addition of awaken skills her burst will also be much stronger, and she can pretty much do both at the same time holy shit.

So being one of the few leaders with Orb enhance, then with the right subs, Isis can basically have guaranteed +orbs for red, green or blue. Same goes for the Chinese gods and their respective colors. What Isis then also can do is run a pseudo mono blue team with all blue subs that have the other colors as secondary elements and have a 100% chance of blue +orbs. The team would look something like Isis, Siegfried, Hera-Is/Blue-SkyDragon, and then either Light Neptune and Umisachi & Yamasachi for full rainbow coverage, or Kamui and Blue Golem for pseudo Chinese god style (with Blue, Red, Dark) (Okay actually that combination would work better with Haku but she herself isn't blue :V). The point is you get guaranteed blue orbs and if you can match at least 13 blue orbs you'll hit as hard as Horus! (okay 13 is a lot but still, it's basically 4 blue orbs matches which isn't too hard with both Kamui and Seigfried on your team vs no changers on Horus)

This seems applicable to with Chinese gods except the problem is this is really only doable with water. Suzaku has no sub that's Green and has +fire orbs, and Meimei has no sub that's Light and has +green orbs, and Haku has no sub that's Red and has +dark orbs. Only Karin can pull it off with Hera-Ur and Umisachi & Yamasachi. And Isis can pull of Rainbow because for some reason Neptune gets +water orbs :V You could do stuff like focusing on Blue but with Haku leaders or focusing on Dark with Meimei or focusing on Light with Leilan but that does miss out on some bonus damage on the leaders themselves (well only a bit really I guess).

Point is Isis and the Chinese gods are awesome.


actually wait shit

so +orbs add 6%... additively? but orb + skills like horus says they add 280% for a full board, so is that a bonus condition of +100% only for the full board? then I guess the +orb awakening skill won't have that ability? Or maybe it will still have it but yeah I didn't notice the boost at the end. I thought it was the other way around where it starts at 280 and linearly gets less the fewer orbs you get.

so I guess what that means is it's not as good as I thought for mono teams as the damage boost isnt as much as I thought?

hold on time to bust out the damage calculator

a full board of orbs deals x8 damage, so if it's enhanced it does 22.4x damage
4 matches of 3 orbs deals only x7 damage, and if enhanced it does 12.04x damage
but 5 matches of 3 orbs deals x10 damage (more than full board), but still only 19x when enhanced
if you add 2 other random color combos to that last one though you get 24.7x damage, and there's no active ability required!

okay so the damage is still pretty good and more importantly you get these orbs FOR FREE without having to use any active effects

I wouldn't be so quick to write ODF Phoenix autoheal in goemon. with preemptives everywhere and future poisons, it might actually be good.
well preemptives are more handled by having a parvati since they tend to hit for harder than just 500 damage :V but it could be good vs poison yeah
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Post by: Edible on September 13, 2013, 06:13:20 PM
Where are you getting theses lists of who has what skill, outta curiosity?
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Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 06:21:46 PM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp#9
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 09:05:46 PM
okay so while i'm still in theorycraft mode, since I've gone over each skills and some teams, time to look more at individual monsters and how their teams are effected, and also whether or not it's worth it to spend fodder to awaken them.

Starter Dragons
Every single starter dragon gets the same awakened abilities: +100 HP, +50 ATK, and Skill boost. These guys are usually used in mono teams as a poor man's Norse god. Now however, they have an advantage over their Norse counterparts in Skill boost, which will allow them to pull off all their orb changing abilities off quicker. Also if you stack skill boosts you can even get turn 1 orb changing to ensure you have orbs to use from the start. Unfortunately they don't have +orb skills which would make then really really good as leaders but oh well can't win em all. Generally I'd say it's worth it to awaken them, however note that it's actually easier to awaken them BEFORE ult evolving them. If you have a fully evolved but non ult evo'ed starter, you can feed it another fully evolved but non ult evo'ed starter to awaken it and it keeps those levels even after ult evoing, BUT if it's ult evoed then you have to feed it more ult evoed guys and these guys take friggen 2 mystic masks to ult evo >_> Well at least it's still way better than skill ups.

Ripper Dragons
Each ripper dragon gets two resist skills of their own type (useless) and a skill boost. Since they're usually used in stall teams, a single turn off the first active use isn't quite as useful, so I'd say save your awaken materials and only awaken them if you have spare ripper dragons. And even then take note that you have to bring them to awakening level 3 to get skill boost.

King Bubblie
For some reason this guy gets the good deal with TWO skill boosts while the others just get stat boosts. Everyone else just gets some stats. With this guy and +Fire Orbs Goemon actually gets a buff (for once...) so it would be certainly worth it to awaken this guy for Goemon, especially since you no longer necessarily have to take up a spot for Horus (but you do lack a 100% chance of orb appearance with this guy)

Carbuncles
ALL CARBUNCLE TEAM
HEAL 3K EVERY TURN
PLUS HAVE 6 2K HEALS FROM TURN ONE
SOUNDS LEGIT

Goblins
Poor man's orb changers. Well at least they get +orbs so I guess Red Goblin can be a good Gigas sub for low levels. The other two no.

Ogres
Ogres are interesting in that they also get TWO skill boosts. They actually weren't terrible before because they filled a niche in being able to cheese through the three conditional technical dungeons with their dual element and nuke abilities, and awakening them would make them even easier (although it's a bit unnecessary). They could also fill in some other kind of weird niche team that aims to nuke everything with skills right away but their stats still suck and they eat a mythlit to ult evolve :<

Golems
These guys were already pretty good before. Well now they also have the two best awakening skills... and bind resist too! The three elemental golems are pretty easy to skill up with Keepers so with skill boost you get damage resist after just 14 turns. MOst importantly though, is the fact that they have +orbs skill, and as their first awakening skill too! If you're using them on a mono team then it's definitely worth it to give them at least one awakening level.

Healer girls
Each healer girl got a different set of awakening abilities to help balance them out (cause everyone knows Echidna and Siren are OP :V)
Echidna
Welp, she got the shortest end of the stick, but it's well deserved since she's already one of the best subs in the game and if she got auto heal then hoooly shit :V Awakening her isn't really worth it unless you're one of those stat optimizers who want +297 eggs on everyone on your team (she doesn't even get +HP though :/)
Siren
Also not as good of a deal, but at least she got auto heal, which is great and will help her do her regular job even better. It is her 3rd awakening skill however so FARM UP DEM SIRENS :V (and also dont forget you need to max evo her too)
Alarune and Archangel
So here's where the fun starts. Both of these girls get TWO auto heals AND bind recovery. Unfortunately neither of them can create heart orbs so bind recovery isn't quite as good on them as it could be. Still they are the only monsters in the game with more than one auto heal. They work great with zombies or you can stack them with Odin, Ama for FREE 4.7K HEALS EVERY TURN (or possibly even more) which is enough to heal even 23500 every turn strikes with Odin holy shitttt. Unfortunately Siren is still probably better in general since she's not made useless by x2 hp skills, but at least they can fit the OdinAma niche. Possibly...
Lilith
She gets auto heal but her other skills suck. Luckily auto heal is her first skill and if you're using a team with lilith then it's probably a team that needs lots of healing too so if you have extra Liliths then go ahead.

Mystic Knights
+Orbs. Nuff said.

Heartbreakers
Same deal, +Orbs. Mono teams everywhere rejoice. For these guys it's probably a good idea to use awaken materials because dat 2 million evo cost... Both these guys and Mystics get +orbs at awakening level 2, although their 3rd level is more stats so why not.

Late bloomer dragons
still suck. skill boost so instead of taking 30 turns it takes 29 to use their shitty skills hooray

Greco-Roman God
Each god in this case as the same skill for each of their ult evos but completely differ from each other.
Minerva
Gungho why do you hate her? Her base skill sucks and then you give her more shitty skills yeah nice balancing there. +Orbs yes so helpful for those few dungeons that I would ever use her in for her double resist oh wait resist teams don't need plus orbs
Neptune
And once again Neptune continues doing his job of filling a specific niche and making everyone wish he wasn't a REM monster. This time it's poison resist, making him truly the master of poisons. Never accept a drink from this guy. Also he gets +Water orbs so that's fun for Isis.
Ceres
Still basically a suped up Alarune. However with her double bind recovery, she can give a really nice fuck you to Zeus Dios. Auto heal is nice too as a staller (and it makes the others jealous. poor poor minerva).
Venus
Skill boost. So you can CHANGE THE WORLD in one turn less. Also two way attack hahahahaha. At least she gets auto heal.
Hades
+Dark Orbs. For mono dark. Yep. That's pretty much it.

Japanese gods
Hino
"Hey, know what this guy needs? MORE FUCKING ATTACK"
Orochi
+300 HP. BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A PERSEVERANCE LEADER NEEDS. MORE HP. For real though this guy is already pretty OP and if he got skill boost then holy shit. As he is don't bother with awakening unless you just love maxing dem numbers.
Susanoo
Free stats \o/
Amaterasu
Okay finally something more interesting. Her abilities basically say fuck binds which is great because being bound as an AmaOdin team is basically an instant game over. If bind resist is really 50% then Ama herself is 100% immune to binds and if you have one then definitely awaken her.
Yomi
I WANT TO CHANGEEEE THE WOOOORLLDDDDDDDD~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szXGtHVXMOs)

Legendary/Sky/Mech/Ancient/Samurai/Mystic Dragons
Finally the almighty Dragons get a good buff. Every single one of these guys get the two best skills; orb change and skill boost. They fit really well in mono teams and can even act as mono team leaders if you just want to pound shit to death all day every day. Unfortunately their boss Zaerog wasn't so lucky but oh well. ADK teams with all Green dragons get 100% green orbs and Orb change available from turn 2. Awesome.

Devils
They get +orbs. But seriously dont.

Indian Gods
Shiva
Oh man skill boost hell yes. Everyone uses Shiva for his skill so getting a turn off it is awesomeee. His other awakening skills suck but whatever.
Lakshimi
Pretty good skills, which kinda makes up for the fact that she sucks... but not really :V
Parvati
The only standard mono leader that gets +orbs. Unfortunately you can't get x4 atk with her so it's kinda a waste. Meh
Indra
Unlike his dragon brethren, no +orbs. But at least he gets skill boost and his skill is pretty good.
Virtra
Ditto Indra.

Toy Dragons
All of them get a bit of resist (useless) and bind resist oh boy! Unfortunately it's only one level of bind resist unlike AmaOdin so they aren't fully protected, but still with the existence of auto heal toy dragons are better off and having a bit of bind resist couldn't hurt especially during those annoying bosses.

Elementals
These guys are pretty much only used for their nullification abilities in specific dungeons, so it's great that their first skill is Skill boost. If only they got +orbs too then that would be just gravy.

Norse
So Thor wanted to be special and has +ATK instead of +HP, but otherwise hes the same as the others. Which is to say not special at all. There is hope for them though if it turns out that damage enhance is better than I'm assuming right now.

Dino Riders
if you own one, cry
then look at their awakened skills and cry some more

Mythical Beasts
Kinda nerfed by the existence of +orb skill but not necessarily useless, especially if the 280% boost is exclusive to active skills. They get Skill boost which is great since they are used for their skills. Other skills are eh and Phoenix gets auto heal as a way to troll Goemon yayyyy

Sticker Girls
They have a similar deal as Alarune and Archangel, but they exchange +500 regen for the fact that they can generate a TON of heart orbs for their anti bind skill. Great for anti binding, not so great past that I guess. If only their abilities had a lower cooldown.

Egyptian Gods
Horus
He essentially got fucking nothing. Which is okay cause he's OP and needs no buffs. Just don't waste any awakening material on him
Isis
Best waifu nuff said <3
Bastet
I...I don't know what they were going for. It's just a mishmash of the most random skills. Just... just look away and dont turn back...
Ra
Same deal as Horus
Anubis
It actually would have been really nice if he got 3 time extenders, cause then with dual Anubis you get an extra 3 second to make your move which is obviously super useful for this bastard. But he only get's one. Sad dog is still sad.

Sengoku Basara
Orb changers with Skill boost. Nice. But they have damage enhance instead of orb enhance. Not nice. I guess this can be considered a buff to mystic knights as well as they now have an edge over their stronger counterparts.

FUCKYOUGoemon
Rofl anti blind. You can't blind a thief cause a thief will rob you blind. Well at least he get's +fire orbs which is actually amazing for him. It means you can build a team that forgoes Phoenix/Horus/Hera-Ur and just have +orbs all the time meaning EVEN MORE DAMAGE. Of course it's his 3rd skill though so have fun with dem blind resists! If only he got Skill boosts (but that would be pretty op I guess :derp:)

Greco Gods
No +orbs noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Mono teams would have flourished in a new age of prosperity and power if only they got some +orbs. Well them and the starter/norses, cause then you get 2/4/2 teams with 100% +orbs oh man it could have been beautiful. Oh well. For some reason the elemental trio gets skill boost while the dark/light ones just get stats. So I guess relative to the other mono teams, mono dark got a nerf, which is okay I guess cause they were pretty much the strongest. Fucking Lucifer.

Mighty Gods
+orbs for all! Well except for green, cause Zeus-Dios decided to take the other half of the Goemon deal and got Skill Boost instead of +green orbs. Imo +orbs would have been better so Goemon got the better end of that deal but oh well.

Satan
Need... more... POWERRRRRRRRRR. If you match two rows of 6 he gets like 60% attack boost, which amounts to...
666 BONUS DAMAGE HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S THE DEVIoh wait ._.

Athena
wow two anti sunglasses
LOOKS LIKE SHE'S
TOO COOL
FOR... SKILLS
:comedycentral:
seriously though she was already kinda shafted enough by having 0 RCV, dont really see any use in getting her now that there are other leaders with great awakened skills and she just has the fucking worst ones...
at least it looks hilarious

Archangel
Fucking. Swords. Everywhere. Once again the triumvirate gets skill boost while the light darks dont. Which is just as well, because fuck you Lucifer you really dont need any buffs.

Archdemons
Whoa these guys get two skill boosts. Pretty nice deal especially for Astaroth who gets all of her gravity buddies up a bit quicker. Not really game changing but still nice.

Chinese Gods
Man fucking +orbs everywhere I love it. Kirin kinda got shafted, but she was the strongest one anyways, and she STILL gets +light orbs, which she will see plenty of thanks to her Valk and Verche buddies. The other four are all having tons of fun at Isis' shiny orb party.

Special Gods
These fuckers get 5-6 skills because they're so "special"
Odin
Merry Christmas. Happy Birthday. Enjoy your new restoration to power, because now Odin resists bind and can heal his mother fucking self. It's not by much, but your Odin, you don't take damage. You don't take shit from anybody, except multi-hitters. Those damn multi-hitters...
Blue Odin
3 SKILL BOOSTS. That said the other three skills are damage enhance so eh. 6 BOdin teams might be the new meta in pure hilarity though. I know I'd love to try it.
Metatron
Eh, she technically get's nice skills but I don't know how useful they will really be to her. Obviously auto heal helps but the heal happens AFTER you attack so even if it heals you to full you don't get the attack boost that turn. Bind resist stuff is nice I guess but burst teams don't usually have to worry about binds as much. Skill boost is sure why not.
Dark Metatron
Got a better deal than normal Metatron overall. On top of having more skills and and extra skill boost, damage enhance is actually GOOD in this case because she already has orb enhance as a skill! which has its cooldown reduced by skill boost! goddamn!

Tengu
Learning from BOdin's mistakes, Lord Tenma just took the necessary part of his skill and got 3 Skill Boosts and nothing else. Perfect for getting off his skill at the right time, although his stats still leave something to be desired..

Stone Dragons
DOUBLE SKILL BOOSTS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? It means that with enough skillups and other stone dragons, you can start with any leader you want, immediately switch to the necessary resist, and then switch back when needed after stalling for a few turns. Awesome, although I still cant beat their stupid dungeon :< Also their stats still suckkk

Formula Dragon
I dunno why he's all alone on this chart, but all he gets is stats. So meh

New Japanese Gods
New meta is coming. Also oh look they all get +orbs.
Ame-no-Uzume
The goddess who like to heal... and is a balanced type... +fire orbs means dual Ames is as strong as a Chinese girl team, and ALWAYS HAS ENHANCED FIRE ORBS. Downside is she has to be full HP but she has auto heal and laughs at Metatron's lack of +orbs :)
Umisachi & Yamasachi
The shota Kirin bros are here to kick Kirin in the shins. Team them up with Hera-Ur, Light Neptune, Kamui, and Siegfried and you'll have an ALWAYS ENHANCED WATER ORB party that makes Kirin cry at Echidna for not being part Light with +light orbs.
Kushinada
Her leader ability sucks (you need x20 combos to be as strong as Anubis rofl) but her ability + bind recovery might be useful? Maybe? No? Okay...
Ookuninushi
+orbs, skill boost, AND another skill. Sounds great but his leader skill is only marginally better than Kushinada and his active skill also only lasts for one turn.
Izanagi
AND FINALLY WE HAVE THIS ASSHOLE. I AM THOU. THOU ART ME. Fucking Izanagi gonna come and show us how a real Persona fights with his HAPPY FAMILY. ALWAYS ENCHANCED LIGHT ORBS, 3.5x damage, 1.5x bonus damage skill. Throw in some verche, zeus, and valk subs and everyone dies. the end. Okay he also needs to be full HP like Ame, but does Ame have access to as many gravities as she wants? I didn't think so.

Chaos Blizzard Dragon
Why is this guy just a recolor of Chaos Devil Dragon? Why does he not have the same awoken abilities as the other dragons, even as the other recolor dragons? Why does this guy even exist? We just don't know

and finally last but not least, the big boss himself...
Dragon Lord Zaerog
OH MAN ITS THE FINAL BOSS OF PUZZLES AND DRAGONS I WONDER WHAT KIND OF AWESOME AWAKENING ABILITIES HE GE-oh
just stats huh
okay then



wow i kinda lost focus near the end huh
although it kinda seems like gungho did too, with earlier monsters getting interesting changes like the weaker healer girls getting 1000 HP boosts and AmaOdin getting bind immunity but then later gods just either got +orbs or got jack shit wow
also new japanese gods will be good PREPARE TO SPEND STONES AGAIN AHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 13, 2013, 09:34:54 PM
So I guess the results of the voting event was a dark carnival over a Greek/Egyptian god fest?

How....useful.

I'll take my stones to kawaii healer girls :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 09:35:50 PM
oh shit Bastet Ult Evo announced...

SOON TO BE ISIS ULT EVO!?


HOLY SHIT PUZZLDROID GETS AN ULT EVO THAT HAS SHIVA'S ABILITY

IM SO GLAD I HELD ON TO THIS THING
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 13, 2013, 09:41:44 PM
Well the other confirmed ones are apollo and persephone (also in this godfest) iirc so

PERHAPS SUIKAMA, YOU WILL GET YOUR MAGICAL ULT EVOS FOR GREEK/EGYPTIAN GODS

most likely though you will be sad
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 09:43:23 PM
i dont have enough stones to be rolling for anything

instead i will be rerolling on my iOS account

watch me get another isis :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 13, 2013, 09:58:15 PM
Sounds like it might be an Indra/Vritra thing, where only a few gods get a ult-evo.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 13, 2013, 09:58:19 PM
Your friend has a maxed-out Bodin, so you put together a team to use him. Your 5-bodin team costs 35 bodins, or only 30 if you forgo the last skill. Your bodins are on average +1 skillup. You pulled 35 bodins from REM, so that's roughly a billion magic stones. It would be cheaper just to buy GungHo.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 13, 2013, 10:04:57 PM
Bodin 5-bodin team costs 35 bodins bodins 35 bodins a billion magic stones buy GungHo

:getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
apparently there's some guy who bought so many sticker girls today that they have a max skilled sticker girl of each element

they probably have a bodin bodin team too
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 13, 2013, 10:45:12 PM
They're the person who runs PDX so yep :v
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 13, 2013, 11:58:09 PM
alright i got an evolved heart breaker of every element except for light

heart breaker Isis team lets go

...dammit Gigas why do you have to drag everyone else down with your -RCV

also shit i need Valk to make this work properly

oh well :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 14, 2013, 12:26:36 AM
I cant get a rainbow dub mythlit and i need one qq.
Imma just save my stones until the next chinese, resist greek, or angel fest
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on September 14, 2013, 01:04:13 AM
I cant get a rainbow dub mythlit and i need one qq.
Imma just save my stones until the next chinese, resist greek, or angel fest
Well, if it's any consolation, the PAL machine's spitting out rare evo materials sometimes right now.  Just got a Dub-rubylit a little bit ago, actually, so a Dub-mythlit's not out of the question I'd think.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 14, 2013, 02:43:40 AM
I might not spend all my stones this fest but I'd really like an Ares, Artemis, or maybe an Isis.

Totally going to end up pulling, like, Anubis instead though. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 14, 2013, 03:21:40 AM
Ooh friday dungeon

okay let's try tha---

(gets one shot by a dublit)

okay nope
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 14, 2013, 03:27:31 AM
>spend a stone on stamina

TIME TO FARM DUB MYTHLITS

>one drop in 3 runs

._.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 14, 2013, 03:39:05 AM
I still need tons of mythlits, both dub- and otherwise, but I got one lone dubmythlit to drop so far to finally evo my Hermes, so I'm happy enough for today.

Now I just need to level all this shit.  :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 14, 2013, 03:53:59 AM
if you have stones sitting around, you just gotta buy more box spaces and farm dem pengdra :V

i managed to evolve my Cu Chulainn today thanks to green pengdra city:
(http://i.imgur.com/HXdolX5.png)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 14, 2013, 04:05:13 AM
if you have stones sitting around, you just gotta buy more box spaces and farm dem pengdra :V

they keep not giving me relevant dragons ;_;

Also I was... the fuck was I doing yesterday that wasn't farming pla--- oh yeah I was working on advancement so I could have 20 stones for the godfest.

But sooooooooooo many metal dragon days and today I needed to do shrine of sprites all day orz.

And I'm working during my super metal dragons slot tomorrow. :V Might get off for my lunch break juuuuuuuuuuuuust in time to hop in though, and at least GOdin can Gungnir through a super metal king's defense.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 14, 2013, 04:08:06 AM
man dem time slots

i once got a super king during like 4 am and i was just :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 14, 2013, 04:48:38 AM
p.s. rumor I'm hearing is that the Facebook vote thing is going to be a carnival, not a godfest, since that's likely to influence whether people hold stones for that or no.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 14, 2013, 07:23:54 AM
0 dub mythits after 5 or 6 runs.. sigh.. friday done... I need one to ultimate my level 76 siggy! qq.

edit: super metal dragons today! eek, don't miss out.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 14, 2013, 07:07:06 PM
oh shit if i have satan on my goemon team i never have to worry about heal orbs again...

if only i could get one
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 15, 2013, 12:30:22 AM
got 2 super kings, and 1 king from 2 super metal runs, yay.

I wanna see the ultimates for the mystic knights though baww. I hope it's not like toydragons where they get like a meh upgrade for double the cost. Pretty much the only thing I like about them for myself is their stats for low cost..

That and the orb changing greek gods need ultimate evos too.. they seem to be pretty obsolete imo, not to mention they don't really synergize very well with anything other than themselves. Which is isn't too uncommon I guess but double chinese/egyptian/angel/etc compliment each other as leads much better imo.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 15, 2013, 12:41:34 AM
GreekxGreek is terrible actually.

Huge HP and nothing to recover it with.

GreekxNorse is way better because you get 4x attack and a bigger hp and rcv score
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 15, 2013, 12:47:24 AM
oh they all atk/hp? I thought it was a mix, didn't pay attention too much since regardless it's not attractive to me. I just have ares and purseaphone and they're quite different so yeah =P.

Regardless, they seem pretty obsolete to me imo. Cuz even with 2x hp+rcv + 4x atk mono colour, you still have too few hp to survive stuff that needs craps of hp to survive like double angel can allow you to do, or a resist+hp, and the damage isn't bad but isn't great either. Even with an extra orb changer or two you need a certain level of luck to not get hosed by some few bad orb colours just like chinese or whatever. That and the fact they ARE mono colour means that enemies with the proper binds are ridiculously dangerous.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 15, 2013, 01:07:26 AM
The RGB are atk/hp, LD is atk/rcv which explains shockingly how useless apollo is. Huh.

Also you're right but an Ulti evo isn't going to fix that. The games just 'balanced' in a way that completely shafts them because their damage is below what the standard for the 'Kill shit fast' team is and the game is basically kill or outlast now, you can't do both. Inflation of attacks that do shittons of damage that you need to shut down fast NOW just destroys them because they're a short lived do lots of damage fast team that isn't instant gratification like Burst- They require time (or full-board enhance shenanigans) to do their damage, not much and certainly are inferior in the long-run to teams built to do that like double angel, and they plain don't get that anymore.

An Ulti doesn't and won't fix that, and I get a distinct feeling they're just going to end up further shafted down the line. Awakening skills gave them some help because enhance orbs from subs and 10% enhance for six orbs (Actually really trivial) gave them a sizable boost, But they just can't and won't measure up to burst which sadly is what gungho plans around
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 15, 2013, 01:08:41 AM
actually the LD are 1.5x everything
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 15, 2013, 01:11:33 AM
Oh so they're not parvartis.

That's even worse.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 15, 2013, 02:00:07 AM
... wellllllllllll, I didn't get any mystic knights from CoS so far...

... but I just got a vamp. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 15, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
i got a vamp from pal

fed it to mine

no skill up

:/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 15, 2013, 03:07:02 AM
Mystic Light Knight, Fenrir Knight, Apollo, Ra.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 15, 2013, 03:24:32 AM
Mystic Light Knight, Fenrir Knight, Apollo, Ra.

I'm not rolling this godfest. I really want an Isis though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 15, 2013, 03:24:57 AM
oh man this rerolling business is a pain, it has to install all this crap and then i have to do the tutorial every time someone please put me out of my misery
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 15, 2013, 03:35:29 AM
I'm not rolling this godfest. I really want an Isis though.

Yeah I wanted Ares or Artemis or Isis or any of the fest-only stuff.

Instead I ended up with a god I'm nowhere near good enough to use and a leader for a mono-color with kinda crap leader choices and a pain to level. :V

Though hey I still got two gods and every god's at least a decent stat stick. Plus RA LAZOR has its uses.

And I was mostly terrified I'd hit Anubis since it's also dark carnival. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 15, 2013, 03:53:39 AM
Here we go Castle of Satan!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 15, 2013, 03:54:24 AM
re-rolled again...

Got Metatron :o

Carbuncle team time :V

...shit her cost is so high i cant use her
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 15, 2013, 04:01:39 AM
...shit her cost is so high i cant use her

story of my life right here
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 15, 2013, 04:11:23 AM
oh man this rerolling business is a pain, it has to install all this crap and then i have to do the tutorial every time someone please put me out of my misery

Yeah, it took me a while too.


In other news, I got my first maxed out monster. Oh Tyrannos, how I wish I could screenshot you.


Here we go Castle of Satan!

I don't think I every got your new ID.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 15, 2013, 04:25:04 AM
I don't think I every got your new ID.

uhh it's 394.177.213

Running Freyr as a leader.

EDIT: beautiful tyrannos btw holy shit he hits hard
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 15, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
So I hit the 100 day login bonus today so that plus the daily freebies means I'm now rocking 21 stones  :o

I threw two rolls at the Godfest and got Hattori Hanzo and Vritra (both level 30 yay dark carnival) these guys any good? I can't use them on my up and coming Suzaku team though :( I hesitate to throw more rocks at this thing only to get trolled into another freaking Gryps Rider or some other such garbage.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 15, 2013, 03:23:00 PM
Vrita is the best sub for zombie teams. Hanzo (and all ninjas aside from Sasuke) is a good orb changer because he breaks the wall between RGB and LD.

I rolled 6 times and got no gold eggs. Yay golemfest.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on September 15, 2013, 04:07:44 PM
What about Apollo?  Worth bothering with, or not so much?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 15, 2013, 05:43:33 PM
Apollo is slightly disappointing in several ways. He's light/yellow/white, which is the most difficult color to get food for. He's 1.5 to everything, which is good enough in general, but not optimal for any specific dungeon. His awoken stats are generic and boring. If you were rolling, I'd keep rerolling.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on September 15, 2013, 06:03:06 PM
Apollo is slightly disappointing in several ways. He's light/yellow/white, which is the most difficult color to get food for. He's 1.5 to everything, which is good enough in general, but not optimal for any specific dungeon. His awoken stats are generic and boring. If you were rolling, I'd keep rerolling.
Guess it's a good thing I'm not rolling then, haha.  Oh well, least I can say I technically got a god in only 2 pulls, so eh.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 15, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Delicious gold dragons. Wish I got one more run in to max Kirin but oh well.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 15, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
meh metatron costs to much time to reroll...

ROFL I GOT LUCIFER :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 15, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
God damnit, i missed my gold dragons AGAIN. Thats like 5 in a row now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 15, 2013, 11:00:18 PM
oh man second pull LILITH

THIS TEAM IS JUST SET FOR LIFE :getdown:

if anyone wants in on the Lucifun add my second account 396,277,239
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 15, 2013, 11:02:29 PM
I'll just store you for whenever I actually get Lucifa.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 16, 2013, 01:33:19 AM
Anyone have a fire resist for me? Ardbeg is 80% drop on master for a few hours.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 16, 2013, 01:39:41 AM
Dropped mine on. Kind of a weak monster, but fine resist.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 16, 2013, 01:51:32 AM
bleh took me 3 stones to beat Ardberg on Legend because I didnt check how much damage he did when low on hp and he dealt more damage than my max hp

luckily i got a 25! combo and almost one hit him so i still cleared it

lost to aerial blitz master though, ugh no healing is hard


oh man next dragon is ancient water dragon who is much easier because he just uses a high armor gimmick

finally a good way to farm Nagas :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 16, 2013, 02:12:14 AM
WELL I SURE AM GLAD I ACTUALLY CHECKED BOWMORE'S STATS BEFORE DOING THE DUNGEON

Tricolor sillyness or not I might want to pick up neptune in this monogreen...

also echidna what are you doing here you are drunk
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 16, 2013, 02:28:32 AM
damn even with echidna + neptune its not enough to take out bowmore without him attacking once on legend
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 16, 2013, 02:34:48 AM
Gotta get dat orochi man

Mono-water legend go go
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 16, 2013, 02:38:40 AM
Or i could just bring along a def reducer golem

I lose out on dps but i dont really need damage for the final boss :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 16, 2013, 02:59:35 AM
According to PDX I can slamdunk Expert-Bowmore with ease.

I AM PREPARED.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 16, 2013, 03:18:57 AM
Hey thanks, but I can't use your shark. Water bind red demons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 16, 2013, 03:24:41 AM
Eh, Fair enough.

Binds strongk (also annoying)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 16, 2013, 06:23:30 AM
Banged head against the wall for a while doing the starter reroll grind on JP. (DRYADFEST LIVE)

Rolled a Berserk (a + egg even!) about an hour and a half before the end of their godfest, not reeeeeeeeeeeeally starter quality but I was frustrated enough to at least go "OK I'm done with rerolling this fest, I'll keep a backup of this and maybe fuck around with more pulls later"

Played some of the early stages, manage to get 5 stones with some more time left on the godfest

BYAKKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO \o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 16, 2013, 06:53:24 AM
p.s suikama bowmore actually has 600k defense on legend

you may want to reconsider trying it
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 16, 2013, 11:57:34 AM
The hell? Goemon dropped a chest of coins instead of an egg.
Eidt: I was upset because stage 1 was more difficult than I had been led to believe. Turns out, Lucifer/Proserpine is easier than double Lucy because of the armor the low ninjas have.
Edit 2: well, turns out boss stage is much mire difficult with that setup. Half the nukes and 3/4 the hp and rcv. Still, I got the egg.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 16, 2013, 05:06:34 PM
p.s suikama bowmore actually has 600k defense on legend

you may want to reconsider trying it
well with 75% reduction its 150000, which means i only need to hit for over 75000 with earth to pierce it, which isn't really too hard in tricolor especially with a green heartbreaker
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 16, 2013, 05:50:43 PM
Hm, it seems odd to take a light or dark golem into a tricolor dungeon for 75% reduction when there's a red monster and a green monster that provide 100% armor reduction.

 :3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 16, 2013, 05:58:32 PM
which green monster? also i dont have shiva
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 16, 2013, 08:36:57 PM
which green monster? also i dont have shiva

Prolly talking about future puzzdroid evo.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 16, 2013, 08:39:49 PM
i doubt that will be out before this dungeon ends
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 16, 2013, 08:41:52 PM
Makes me sad. Would have been perfect for the 9x Physical team I want to field for it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 16, 2013, 09:05:14 PM
is it just me or do the minibosses on master look harder than they do on legend.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 16, 2013, 10:22:06 PM
is it just me or do the minibosses on master look harder than they do on legend.

The mini-bosses on Legend hit every turn, and if you're eligible for their binds, your whole team getting bound, as opposed to 1 or 2.

I got really lucky rolling on the JP version. Kirin, Blue-Kirin, and Genbu. I also started off Ookuninushi.

Tried tackling Goemon. I died, so I quit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 17, 2013, 09:05:53 PM
Ohhhh man, ultimate evolutions for Bastet and Greek 2.0 gods (Persephone/Apollo/etc) coming soon.  *_*

Edit: I bet Bastet is still useless!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 17, 2013, 09:14:22 PM
Ohhhh man, ultimate evolutions for Bastet and Greek 2.0 gods (Persephone/Apollo/etc) coming soon.  *_*

Edit: I bet Bastet is still useless!

Too bad Gungho doesn't do bosses that attack in groups anymore. The only descend I think that does that was Two Heroes, and you weren't really attacking Highlander anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 17, 2013, 10:00:41 PM
Yeah I'm not predicting any massive changes.

Some stats, dull elements. Same old.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 17, 2013, 10:57:34 PM
Dark keepers, why wont you spawn aghghagh. I need 2 to evolve hera but i keep getting light keepers.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 17, 2013, 11:41:21 PM
Suzaku skill up incoming

chinese girls so OP
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 17, 2013, 11:44:09 PM
Oh man shame I have the china girl without an orb skill :V

Edit: I think I actually want a non-kirin china girl now.

Also this carnival. Fortoytops what even the fuck are you doing here.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 18, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
>Encounter of a Lifetime
>shows up again

well I cant complain I guess

also for some reason it gives a stone again :o
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 18, 2013, 05:15:47 PM
oh sweet.

Meanwhile time to try resist/odin (I wish I had devil ceres for this) hera. Because good plan.

Edit: Unsurprisingly, Not. Death on initial floor because hey I can barely scratch knights and demons even using keepers.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 18, 2013, 06:29:25 PM
I did beat it with resist/Odin last time around (hahaha not doing it again until I evolve my own Hera)  and yeah, the first wave is rough but it's pretty failproof once you start banking up your skills and I was popping Siren every 5 turns at the beginning.  I wound up burning the Odin active on every trash wave since my own team was pretty low level  :ohdear:

SPEAKING OF EVOLVING HERA I have gotten every mask but the dark purple divine at least once, including 2 mystic masks ahhhhh

At least I got another Puzzledroidmon and all I need is one more flower to super-evolve him.  Is there any benefit to having two?  I didn't see him on the Awoken Skillz list.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 18, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
Double Shiva active? Might be useful if you flub using it in friday or the likes.

Edit: I'll prolly try Odin/Resist again and if it fails just wait untill I have more leveled dudes. Possibly Devil Neptune instead of hades for dual resists.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 18, 2013, 08:30:05 PM
Oh hey lol I forgot Hera's one of the Descendeds that's doable with Ama/Odin or resist/Odin. Tentative team for once my stamina's refreshed enough? (http://www.padherder.com/user/ArashiKurobara/teams/3769/)  My max cost is only 98 so I can't fit a second RK instead of the Kirin else I probably would, I'd prefer the safety over the Gravity. But since I can't I'll gladly take the Gravity. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 18, 2013, 08:36:13 PM
in the long run Kirin's gravity is actually better than Hera's because you can pull it off twice in the time it take to charge one of Hera's

chinese girls op :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 18, 2013, 08:42:02 PM
in the long run Kirin's gravity is actually better than Hera's because you can pull it off twice in the time it take to charge one of Hera's

yeah but owning moar gravities is moar better :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 18, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
omg (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1507502?tags=hong_meiling) (danbooru)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 18, 2013, 10:28:59 PM
Djhsjxhehs xj.

Where is the good suzaku art!? I do t want china cosplay, whyyyy, whyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 18, 2013, 10:52:28 PM
Mang, i actually want that puzzdroid ultimate, i have no decent greens other than my ripper, and a shiva ability is super needed as well. Having a decent green is needed so i can haku/horus easier (so far i can only horus with haku+light from luci, but if i had a green too i could haku+green as well).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 18, 2013, 11:31:41 PM
Oh hey lol I forgot Hera's one of the Descendeds that's doable with Ama/Odin or resist/Odin. Tentative team for once my stamina's refreshed enough? (http://www.padherder.com/user/ArashiKurobara/teams/3769/)  My max cost is only 98 so I can't fit a second RK instead of the Kirin else I probably would, I'd prefer the safety over the Gravity. But since I can't I'll gladly take the Gravity. :V
That's not too far off from what I had (Chaos Dragon leader and Lilith for the dark resist/poison to make up for no Neptune)  The first few stages are the dicey ones.  I actually liked having the dragon because I could use the breath attack to wipe out the early stage trashmons because lolnomultiplier on the safety team.  I guess that's the tradeoff - with Kirin you'd get the gravity so the bosses will go down significantly faster but the devils/demons have high defense for the healers to deal with so the dragon nuke helped me a lot.

I managed to only use one stone on Venus because I let go of the orb early so it's totes doable, but it took a looooong time.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 18, 2013, 11:42:46 PM
So awakenings are out in the Japanese version

Anyone want to test it to see how rare Awakening Egg Dragons are?


apparently it can appear in PAL, jewel dragon dungeons, and has it's own one time dungeon

so they'll be hard to get but you will get one Awakening for free


Oh shit

so enhanced orbs is actually 20% chance of appearance! So you only need 5 instead of 6, which is great for Goemon because they can still use Echidna or King Bubblie without sacrificing 100% orbs.

also bind resist is indeed 50% so Odin/Ama teams are hugely buffed

the other resists are only 20% rofl (but it applies to you instead of just that monster)


also since awakening dudes are annoying to get (aside from dragons) It's generally pretty much only worth it to awaken for +Orbs and Skill Boosts and on non farmable REM dudes that you dont have copies of

for special dungeon boss dragons (like Samurai Dragons, Sky Dragons etc.) though it's gonna be super easy, just farm them on x2 drop rate days on master. So basically they're finally buffed and useful yay


oh man ADK teams get a huge buff from all this. 100% green orbs + draggie boost oh man

Dragonsssss


okay so the fact that Odin/Metas have so many skillsi s actually a bad thing because if you want Skill Boost for Metatron you need to spend 5 egg dragons welp
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 19, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
The first few stages are the dicey ones.  I actually liked having the dragon because I could use the breath attack to wipe out the early stage trashmons because lolnomultiplier on the safety team.  I guess that's the tradeoff - with Kirin you'd get the gravity so the bosses will go down significantly faster but the devils/demons have high defense for the healers to deal with so the dragon nuke helped me a lot.

Yeah but if I'm gonna die it'd proooooooobably gonna be before my rippers would be charged anyway. :V

I don't have high hopes for my attempt but hopefully it'll go okay anyway. *fingers crosses*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 19, 2013, 02:24:40 AM
Yeah Hera ain't happening.

I think I've got the right idea but I just need more raw stats and shit.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 19, 2013, 03:16:41 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zO44-Ij-TWA/UjfHjCiykqI/AAAAAAAAQtw/1ALrjUey4bs/s400/1.jpg)
so apparently THIS is what poison does

how horrifying


also in terms of Mystic Knights getting ult evos: please gungho make Kamui Blue/Light please please please pleaseeee
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 19, 2013, 03:49:00 AM
I'm unsure as to how good enhanced orbs will be with Goemon. If they get enhanced on drop but not on change, he'll miss out.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 19, 2013, 03:58:44 AM
hmm good point

i'm assuming it applies to both drop and change but if it's just drop then euugghhh

actually it would make the ability pretty terrible in general because mono teams wouldn't really care for it then either...

also you need at least 9 egg dragons to get +orbs for Goemon: 3 for Goemon, 2 for each orb changing sub (RGGs and Homura) and then still you'd need an additional 2 for either King Bubblie or Fire Dragon if your ally Goemon has no awakening.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 19, 2013, 04:01:32 AM
jesus shit DAT GODFEST (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/130913_and1st.html)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 19, 2013, 04:09:27 AM
jesus shit DAT GODFEST (http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/130913_and1st.html)

except it's not a godfest it's a carnival like we have all the time anyway and you're still only supposed to roll on godfests.

(I might pull once anyway though. >_>)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 19, 2013, 04:12:35 AM
...but it says GodFes right on it ???

also this was last weekend whoops
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 19, 2013, 04:19:17 AM
...but it says GodFes right on it ???

also this was last weekend whoops

Oh I thought you meant the vote result thing

since that hasn't happened yet

Sorry :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 19, 2013, 10:32:09 PM
I like how the vote result thing has like... pierdrawn and shit on it.  zzz

Decided to actually get around to getting Verche to his max evolution just in case his ult evo is worth using.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 19, 2013, 10:50:48 PM
I like how the vote result thing has like... pierdrawn and shit on it.  zzz

Decided to actually get around to getting Verche to his max evolution just in case his ult evo is worth using.

I don't know why they didn't make it drawn joker. I would have rather had valkyrie than Berserk.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 20, 2013, 01:35:00 AM
yeah pierdrawn and beserker are just lawl.
Oh and I hate this game... I just fed 4 red upgraded (took 12 masks to upgrade and lots of leveling) space invader dudes (octopusV2? I forget) to my ares... TRIUMPH... 1.5x exp... no skill up.. ASDFJLKASLDFKJASDF.

I'm also doomed to never get a good green. I did masterful green samurai dragon like 6 times now and no drop. whyy. I'd wait for 2x drop fest but the dungeon DOES kill me via ninja sometimes. Most of those times it's my fault that I forget they are a bigger threat than the bosses and make my group too ninja-slack though. I like rocking my green ripper for lead for bosses, and horus for trash (not that he's slack for bossing himself), I just so happen to have a level 99 +40 horus on my friends list >=).

Question. if you max out a character to level 99, does that mean they are stuck and can never ultimate evolve/awakening if they ever get released? Or is there some special rule where level 99s CAN be fed still for those purposes?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 20, 2013, 02:11:42 AM
Pretty sure you can still feed for plus eggs.

As for green Samurai dragon, I find going a resist and attack multiplier is inefficient. I say go one or the other. I favor dual resists at the moment.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 02:15:21 AM
MAX level dudes can be fed as much as you want

the only exception are exp food like pengdra and moltdra
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 20, 2013, 02:20:27 AM
Dual resists? I find the non-green ninja's would kill me faster than I could say oh god make it stop..
and even with double attack I can't hope to kill the boss faster than it gets a chance to attack since I'm forced to have 1 creature of every colour..some are naturally not really powerful colours for me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 20, 2013, 03:18:41 AM
Dual resists? I find the non-green ninja's would kill me faster than I could say oh god make it stop..
and even with double attack I can't hope to kill the boss faster than it gets a chance to attack since I'm forced to have 1 creature of every colour..some are naturally not really powerful colours for me.

Are you doing Legend? On master, I go GED and a friends light Ceres, and stall on the first batch of ninjas. I then use ripper to blast the other stages, while stalling on mid ninjas. The only part that might be scary is the part where you face the ogres, but once you get one to go green, you're fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 20, 2013, 03:28:36 AM
I don't have a GED or a ceres, nor do I have a friend with either (I've been looking for a ceres buddy for awhile).

Best I can do is my little green ripper. My problem is even the first wave is fairly threatening cuz they dish out like 4k damage each turn and I generally only have 12k health even with a level cap ally leader. outhealing that much damage is doable but it's hard doing it without accidently killing it too since you need to dish out sizeable combos in order to keep hearts appearing.

I'm not really having any issues with it as long as I remember to use my green ripper and a horus/isis.. it's when I FORGET to do that that I get whooped. if I went double green resist a wave of 4 ice ninjas would ruin me in 1 turn flat if I didn't use a nuke to pass it, which like I said is already iffy since that first wave either kills me in 3 turns or croaks by mistake when I try to heal....It's just too luck based imo. With one horus, I find I can reliably kill off some dudes if I need to, and the green dragon lets me not get 1shot by the boss.. If I go double resist I do 1s all the time to all the ninjas unless I attack with their weakness AND a big combo.

edit: OMGWTF.. my best (and only evolved) haku friend removed me from friends list.. whyy.. I can't find ANY haku's! And this person has too many? better than mine?! wtf. I search every day for new haku friends and I can't find a bloody one other than the odd level 30 non evolved ones.

moar edit: ugh, hurry up friday. I wanna get a rainbow dublit and ultimate evolve my siggy finally. yarrrgh. It better drop this time.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 20, 2013, 11:22:30 AM
oh my god guys

I rolled a Horus

oh my god i have my dream red monster

now for byakko
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 20, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
I don't have a GED or a ceres, nor do I have a friend with either (I've been looking for a ceres buddy for awhile).

Best I can do is my little green ripper. My problem is even the first wave is fairly threatening cuz they dish out like 4k damage each turn and I generally only have 12k health even with a level cap ally leader. outhealing that much damage is doable but it's hard doing it without accidently killing it too since you need to dish out sizeable combos in order to keep hearts appearing.

I'm not really having any issues with it as long as I remember to use my green ripper and a horus/isis.. it's when I FORGET to do that that I get whooped. if I went double green resist a wave of 4 ice ninjas would ruin me in 1 turn flat if I didn't use a nuke to pass it, which like I said is already iffy since that first wave either kills me in 3 turns or croaks by mistake when I try to heal....It's just too luck based imo. With one horus, I find I can reliably kill off some dudes if I need to, and the green dragon lets me not get 1shot by the boss.. If I go double resist I do 1s all the time to all the ninjas unless I attack with their weakness AND a big combo.

edit: OMGWTF.. my best (and only evolved) haku friend removed me from friends list.. whyy.. I can't find ANY haku's! And this person has too many? better than mine?! wtf. I search every day for new haku friends and I can't find a bloody one other than the odd level 30 non evolved ones.

moar edit: ugh, hurry up friday. I wanna get a rainbow dublit and ultimate evolve my siggy finally. yarrrgh. It better drop this time.

So your ripper isn't fully evolved?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 02:12:19 PM
oh my god guys

I rolled a Horus

oh my god i have my dream red monster

now for byakko

jesus christ and this carnival is terrible too, that is one hell of a roll there

:toot:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 03:23:14 PM
Chinese girl dungeon oh shiiiittttttttttttt
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 20, 2013, 04:17:59 PM
Chinese girl dungeon oh shiiiittttttttttttt

?

Are there droping Karins. I want dropping Karins.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 04:23:44 PM
they probably wont drop themselves just like how the healer girls dont drop from technicals

but hey we get to battle byakku
(http://i.imgur.com/bdksqMJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 05:32:41 PM
There is no damn way they drop. They're gods.

But yeah fighting them sounds...interesting.

Edit: Their boss however, probably will.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 20, 2013, 05:51:15 PM
I got the final evolution on Kano, the only healer girl I pulled.  It's convenient because I didn't have a green healer-type (outside of alraune, who blows as a sub), so now I can more easily run healer teams in all-color dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 06:16:25 PM
I got Ruka from my one used pull. I wanted fuu because my light options of healers is kinda yeahhhh...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 10:46:51 PM
so the boss of the chinese girls has Kirin's active

which means Kirin's active is farmable at any time

also he kinda puts Zaerog to shame
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 10:48:43 PM
Holy fuck. Free x16 for DRAGONS when HP is full.

That's... That's beautiful.

I want him.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 10:49:15 PM
im scared to know how difficult his dungeon is gonna be
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 10:50:24 PM
ALL EGYPTIAN MEXIDAMAGE FEST OR BUST

ALL IN ON RA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 10:51:50 PM
too bad ra's mexibeam doesnt really do shit :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
too bad ra's mexibeam doesnt really do shit :V

It does the exact damage to kill superkings and that's it.

Mind you, That is still enough to be pretty fucking nice to have even if you won't ever use him.

./arashifive
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 20, 2013, 11:04:46 PM
I just match orbs to kill superkings... Op chinese gods ftw >=) .

I wonder when we'll get queen dragons, im greedy for exp. ive discovered that most of my stuff have late blooming growth curves, and that hitting 50ish and moving on is not as clearcut best as i expected.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 11:20:29 PM
one of these days i'll know how to use this horus and you'll all be sorry ;w;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 11:33:54 PM
6 Koryu team

Ridiculous amounts of x16 light damage and 6 gravities for the boss :getdown:

if you get hit by anything though you're kinda fucked because he only has 150 RCV :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 20, 2013, 11:41:12 PM
you will run out of light orbs

you will run so the fuck out of light orbs
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 20, 2013, 11:43:42 PM
pretty much

run out of light orbs -> get hit once -> cant recover -> game over


he makes a pretty awesome light sub though. gravity + dat attack

also we have yet to see his awakening abilities if he gets any


speaking of all dragon teams, if +orbs doesnt suck too much I wanna make the lazieist power team ever

ADK + 4 Green Samurai dragons

so much green


ahaha some of the yellow lines flying off Koryu's body aren't part of his aura, its actually his shirt ripping off his chest :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 20, 2013, 11:55:26 PM
pretty much

run out of light orbs -> get hit once -> cant recover -> game over


he makes a pretty awesome light sub though. gravity + dat attack

also we have yet to see his awakening abilities if he gets any

How about running Angelion? Or Indra?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 21, 2013, 12:02:12 AM
Problem is if you heal using heal orbs, the heal applies AFTER damage, which is good for Goemon but not for full HP leaders. So if you heal and attack at the same time, even if you heal to full you get no bonus and likely you'll get hit by something and not be full HP again. (i havent actually tried this but going with how goemon works im pretty sure thats how this works as well)

Metatron at least has a heal ability which allows her to possibly heal to full and strike for full damage and Zeus can use any sub he wants while Koryu is stuck with dragons who cant do anything but attack things.



Oh Man Isis, Echidna, Susanoo, Koryu, Rkeeper would be legit as fuck

On bosses pop Koryu and Echidna, then attack for 3 turns, then pop Susanoo, then after 5 pop Rkeeper. Then if Echidna and Koryu are max skilled they'll be up again.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 21, 2013, 01:10:49 AM
1 pull. Another Lucy. Now I have to figure out what to do with two of them.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 21, 2013, 01:13:44 AM
luci sub

so many morning stars
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 21, 2013, 01:16:10 AM
1 pull. Another Lucy. Now I have to figure out what to do with two of them.

jealoussssssssssss

(I made one pull for shits and giggles, especially since I'd've been fine enough with anything in the carnival bar Sasuke. Got a Vampire, didn't even yield a skillup on the one I already have. Oh well, I knew I was way more likely to strike out than to hit before I started. :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 21, 2013, 03:42:03 AM
I wanted 3 sticker girls.

I rolled twice.

-I got the two I didn't want-.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 21, 2013, 04:40:30 AM
Godfest is x3 god ratio... How good is carnival ratio?
Even if its food im scared ill get pierdra AGAIN.

what the heck, imma do 2 pulls, more than half of this is REALLY good and I got lucky TWICE today with a couple irl things, lets hope I'm lucky in the game too.

Here goes:
Vampire, cupid... doh
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 21, 2013, 05:16:32 AM
dammit bowmore

dat defense

i shoulda brought neptune
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 21, 2013, 06:43:10 PM
Carnival ratio is the base shitty chance to get a gold.

So uh, generally don't pull no matter how good the carnival looks.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 21, 2013, 10:32:15 PM
I decided to do one pull for the heck of it. I mean, I have Kirin, and 10 stones. Why not?

I got a Lucifer.

An Archdemon one.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 22, 2013, 05:20:31 AM
guys how do you horus
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 22, 2013, 05:32:38 AM
guys how do you horus

Cram in as much utility as you can and match ALL the orbs.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 22, 2013, 06:52:45 AM
Alternatively, Heart breakers and Echidna.

Alternatively, be a bullshit wizard like everyone god damn else that plays.

then sob because every board is tri-color
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 22, 2013, 07:02:39 AM
then sob because every board is tri-color

And then you run Isis or Anubis instead. o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Yukarin on September 22, 2013, 07:52:03 AM
Im getting the hang of horus now.

I need a naga.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 22, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
every time i horus i fuck up

isis is way better anyways
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 22, 2013, 08:36:30 PM
I prefer isis for most things but if its green dungeon, horus for sure.

Lol, between having a love deity cosmo venus, and a lucifer (double damage nuke), light war dragon is cake. I might actually be able to no stone legend.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 24, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
Aaaand Koryu's awakening skills are triple resist...

so basically Kirin food :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 24, 2013, 11:06:41 PM
Bastet Ult Evo: "Leader Skill: Combo counts at 3 is 2x ATK and increase by 0.5x ATK for each combo up to 5 combos."

(http://i.imgur.com/OwJbo4P.jpg)

Her ability's still pretty weak, but better than it was at least.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 25, 2013, 12:46:32 AM
Thats actually pretty good if you want an isis ability with a monoish team.

Edit: since they actually buffed her leader abigy, maybe da greek gawds will get improvements in that area too yay.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 02:21:11 AM
Unlikely.

Like, Bastet's leader ability was improvable by keeping the numbers the same, just changing how it worked. The greek god's can't be changed except by changing the numbers.

The most realistic of this would be a 2x/1.5x/1.5x spread or so. And even then thats just too versatile a spread to have a decent boost attached onto.

At the same time 1.5x modifiers alone are frankly p.useless so it's also like why the fuck use apollo or perse.

The 1.5x gods are frankly just kinda meh and that's not fixable.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 25, 2013, 03:25:54 AM
Imo a 1.8x/1.8x/1.8x would be pretty satisfactory.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 04:42:28 AM
I think you missed what I meant.

Like. Entirely. Because you just changed the numbers when I said you can't.

The problem with that and my suggestion is you stack them you get 3.25x to everything which is a really good bost to everything. And yes it's technically 'under' 4x boosts but holy fucking shit you can actually have that large of boost to everything. That's huge and really fucking broken for monos.

This is shitty for the meta in a lot of ways (For one it flatout destroys 4/2/2s and makes attack 2x leaders shitty because you can't really work a team that isn't outdone by tri-leaders) and generally does not make up for 'fixing' a few 'meh' monsters.
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Post by: hyorinryu on September 25, 2013, 04:55:41 AM


Apollo and Percy aren't bad. Their stats are pretty good. They rival the Norse god ultis. People use Apollo in Kirin and Athena. And with the devil typing I'm sure Percy will see more use.

The RGB gods are in a far worse position. They could probably use stat buffs.

I think Shiva and Lakshmi need a remake. Especially Lakshmi. Her ability makes starter dragon look good, and it doesn't even feel like a fortune teller move.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 05:03:53 AM
Shiva has been utterly -destroyed- by the new puzzdroid ulti. I'm not sure we can recover him.

Lakshimi simply never had a chance.

I don't think Gungho does remakes though so uh. Yeah! That's a thing forever and ever now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 25, 2013, 05:36:32 AM
Shiva has been utterly -destroyed- by the new puzzdroid ulti. I'm not sure we can recover him.

Lakshimi simply never had a chance.

I don't think Gungho does remakes though so uh. Yeah! That's a thing forever and ever now.

I wouldn't say utterly destroyed. Shiva still bests him in stats and is a different color. The only thing Puzzdroid changed was that you won't see Shiva wedged into random blue/green teams that need an armor killer. In terms of function, I'd argue Norses got screwed over harder with the slimes.
Yeah, I doubt Gungho does remakes. It'd probably piss off the 5 people who actually like Lakshmi's ability.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 25, 2013, 07:23:48 AM
well yeah slapping devil on her might be useful for some groups, I haven't really looked at devil groups myself but whatever. as for 1.8X3 not being an option because it makes 4/2/2 groups obsolete, frankly I already do think they're kinda there for just about everything but lazy spam dungeons. For anything that you need to be serious for and place an effort, It doesn't seem like those are very viable unless you have like the absolute best possible collection of subs for a specific dungeon with no compromises at all.. That and I wasn't meaning 1.8 exactly. I don't think there's like no line at all between totally useless, and overpowered. There's got to be SOME number that makes their leader abilities useful, but not op.

But yeah, maybe the devil thing is enough for devil based groups.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 25, 2013, 01:41:36 PM
well yeah slapping devil on her might be useful for some groups, I haven't really looked at devil groups myself but whatever. as for 1.8X3 not being an option because it makes 4/2/2 groups obsolete, frankly I already do think they're kinda there for just about everything but lazy spam dungeons. For anything that you need to be serious for and place an effort, It doesn't seem like those are very viable unless you have like the absolute best possible collection of subs for a specific dungeon with no compromises at all.. That and I wasn't meaning 1.8 exactly. I don't think there's like no line at all between totally useless, and overpowered. There's got to be SOME number that makes their leader abilities useful, but not op.

But yeah, maybe the devil thing is enough for devil based groups.

It'll be a great boost to Hera-Ur lead teams, as they tend to suffer in the RCV department. As for mono-teams, mono-blue can tackle Goemon, Two Heroes, and Hera-Ur. I remember someone saying that all they need to do is make the mono-leads give 2.5 instead of 2 attack.

EDIT: Toydragon buffs and Ookunisushi buffs, yay. I just need to see what the water knight ult-evo looks like now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 25, 2013, 02:54:01 PM
Toy dragon buffs? Nice.
Anybody know any high level light-ult minervas? I need one to tackle legendary light war dragon. I almost did it with a low level one but the samurai goblin+tree dude attacked me at the same time for BARELY more than my maxhp... That goblin was at like 5% health too qq. I fant imagine the last 2 waves would have been any trouble with 80% resistance and double damage luci.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2013, 04:39:04 PM
poring tower yaaayyy

time to finally skill up all these heartbreakers
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 04:44:01 PM
well yeah slapping devil on her might be useful for some groups, I haven't really looked at devil groups myself but whatever. as for 1.8X3 not being an option because it makes 4/2/2 groups obsolete, frankly I already do think they're kinda there for just about everything but lazy spam dungeons. For anything that you need to be serious for and place an effort, It doesn't seem like those are very viable unless you have like the absolute best possible collection of subs for a specific dungeon with no compromises at all.. That and I wasn't meaning 1.8 exactly. I don't think there's like no line at all between totally useless, and overpowered. There's got to be SOME number that makes their leader abilities useful, but not op.

4/2/2's overall obsoleteness is kind of moot. The problem is that shoots them straight in the foot and is a bad thing because that's -not- what the trimono leaders are supposed to do. There is like an exact reason tri-mono leaders are 1.5 and it's because they're not -supposed- to be better than 4/2/2 teams.  That's the real problem.

Also nope! No line. You can't nestle between meh and op because the problem isn't the numbers it's where it's going (Everywhere). There are literally too places where you can go with that! Meh boosts- where we currently are, which is just too weak to be relevant or Decent boosts- which are too strong BECAUSE the boost goes everywhere. The core problem is how the skill is, not the numbers.

So no there really isn't a number that solves that. They're just kind of in a bad place because gungho doesn't want them overtly better than 2x leaders, but not having them overtly better makes them kind of useless. So yeah.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 25, 2013, 05:24:56 PM
I disagree about a magical lack of decent balance area in the world of balancing numbers, but I wont argue that.

But The thing is I think that you're worried too much about them making some other older already pretty obsolete leaders MORE obsolete. I'm thinking that they should just put all the weaker ones up to par with the new stuff rather than worry about holding anyone back so that they don't make the other stuff that still needs buffing even more obsolete.

But the rcv on devil thing is good enough. Not every god needs to have a great leader ability, good sub stats are fine too IMO. My only beef with persephone is that her activated ability really is pretty limited in use if she isn't the leader (or some other mono dark team lead). Most gods who are made to sub more than lead generally have activated abilities that kinda work well no matter who your leader is.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
I...

What? No. Bad. Tri-mono stuff like Apollo and Perse are not Newer shinier stuff than 2x leader for gods sake they're -in the same god damn pantheon as several 2x leaders- You don't get to argue they're older and more obsolete! For god's sake I'm arguing them on the same level as the 2x leaders because that's the kind of stuff they're comparable to and MEANT TO BE COMPARABLE TO BY DESIGN. Their boosts are lower because they're being compared to the 2x to 2 stats leaders.

I am worried about them obsoleting them because that is exactly the kind of leaders they're directly comparable to and in the same bracket as. Like. Exactly.

I am not however worried about making them punch against egyptian, chinese, lucifer etc. teams because that's way out of their bracket and really fucking revolutionary to try.

What I'm doing is keeping them realistically in their bracket.

If you want to try and argue why we should make mono-teams have bigger stronger numbers that's another talk entirely and one that ends in me telling you the trick to making mono-teams more popular is dungeon design that encourages playing mono-teams instead of making mono-teams stronger.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2013, 08:08:45 PM
other colors need better subs

mono black is op because fucking gravities for days on top of lucifers

everything dies, no effort needed
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 25, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
Chaore I understand the point you're trying to make but you shouldn't be making it to Ghaleon, you should be making it to Gungho (who will ignore you because they're already giving persephone et al an ult evo which will, given the endless power creep of the game, improve her and her friends dramatically)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 08:19:22 PM
And that, my friends, is why lucifer is the only monster I want anymore.

Chaore I understand the point you're trying to make but you shouldn't be making it to Ghaleon, you should be making it to Gungho (who will ignore you because they're already giving persephone et al an ult evo which will, given the endless power creep of the game, improve her and her friends dramatically)

Fair. To be honest I just like talking about balance and shit in games because I am a closet game designer wannabee with no talent ;w;

And actually there is like a 99% chance all she gets is another element and her bonus stacked onto another set of creatures that does absolutely nothing to improve her ability as a leader. Maybe a few extra stats.

Edit: Oh and maybe another classification which makes her better as a sub.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2013, 08:27:14 PM
Im pretty sure if you have a Lucifer and a Horus/Ra you can beat every single dungeon in the game minus restrictions like Tricolor

so yeah this game is not balanced :derp:


oh shit Koryu dungeon is out

let see how hard this is

...dat 200k attack


damn Koryu himself is a real fighter

he heals you to full and uses no tricks, just punches your face in every turn for 200k damage rofl



rofl all the chinese girls get preemptive abilities... that do nothing

just so they all get to talk

for dat moe factor
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 08:35:30 PM
It's not really, I agree. It's all very silly and such.

Also amusingly Mexibeam Egyptian spam exactly like I expected.

zzzz new tricks please gungho
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2013, 08:38:31 PM
actually on second thought this game is balanced

its perfectly balanced around getting you to spend money
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 25, 2013, 08:42:46 PM
actually on second thought this game is balanced

its perfectly balanced around getting you to spend money

Pretty much.

And it works.

Edit: at getting you to spend money i mean
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2013, 08:44:42 PM
also from what i've seen so far changed orbs cannot be +orb unless they were already a +orb in the first place

so awakening skills are generally pretty useless aside from Skill Boost and no bind OdinAmmy (who still cant even compete in later dungeons so who cares)


basically roll until you get Kirin/Ra/Horus. Learn to match orbs. Congrats you beat Puzzles and Dragons.


Okay at least new orbs that drop during combos can be +orbed

So for regular combos if you have all +orbs then it can help your damage
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 25, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
Im pretty sure if you have a Lucifer and a Horus/Ra you can beat every single dungeon in the game minus restrictions like Tricolor

so yeah this game is not balanced :derp:


oh shit Koryu dungeon is out

let see how hard this is

...dat 200k attack


damn Koryu himself is a real fighter

he heals you to full and uses no tricks, just punches your face in every turn for 200k damage rofl



rofl all the chinese girls get preemptive abilities... that do nothing

just so they all get to talk

for dat moe factor
Does that mean everything in technical dungeons calls their attacks?

Also, if Luci and Horus are all that are needed, Isn't Kirin everything?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 25, 2013, 09:27:24 PM
okay yeah Kirin is probably the best single monster in the game. She does enough damage to take out any dungeon and she has fucking GRAVITY skills which puts her above Horus/Ra. Lucifer is still the easiest way to cheese through the game though.

also Haku and Kirin actually have preemptive strikes so there's some clear favoritism here :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 26, 2013, 02:52:39 AM
okay yeah Kirin is probably the best single monster in the game. She does enough damage to take out any dungeon and she has fucking GRAVITY skills which puts her above Horus/Ra. Lucifer is still the easiest way to cheese through the game though.

also Haku and Kirin actually have preemptive strikes so there's some clear favoritism here :V

I asked the REM for Luci, and it gave me the Archdemon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 26, 2013, 03:41:18 AM
I have a Horus and a Ra and a Kirin.

I just also have zero orb matching skills. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 26, 2013, 03:43:45 AM
I have a Horus and a Ra and a Kirin.

I just also have zero orb matching skills. :V

I have a Kirin and I never use her for anything actually hard.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 26, 2013, 04:00:48 AM
also Haku and Kirin actually have preemptive strikes so there's some clear favoritism here :V

Kirin is in the dungeon?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 26, 2013, 04:21:55 AM
Blah, like I said I didn't want to argue but I don't really like the fact that you misread my point to the point that my opinion was flat out moronic.

I wasn't saying that those gods were older than persephone/apollo.. I wasn't saying you can't compare the bracket within itself. I was comparing that entire bracket as a whole, as "older gods" (not individuals among them) being obsolete to the newer shit like the new japanese gods, the new chinese gods, etc. I'm saying that persephone and co should try to be updated so that they are compareable to the newer gods like chinese/jpn2.0, ALONG WITH the other older gods that you are so scared that will become even more obsolete. Provided both get updated to the same extentish, I think simple number tweaking is an improvement even if not the best answer.

I don't really care if you disagree if that point is correct or not, but it's certainly better than just leaving things as is and calling it broken IMO. I just don't want you assuming that I'm saying the dumbest nonsense possible (like persephone is older than ares and should be compared to chinese gods while ares can rot) when that wasn't what I was hoping to communicate at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 04:45:32 AM
Kirin is in the dungeon?
yes all 5 are there along with rainbow keeper and a stage with 2 mystic masks 2 mythlit and 1 tamadora (the awakening material)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/3dZyWdI.png)

so uh apparently this guy is already out, and might have been out for a while? :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 26, 2013, 03:30:42 PM
so uh apparently this guy is already out, and might have been out for a while? :derp:

Yeah, he was added in the last patch I think
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 26, 2013, 03:34:55 PM
Wut!? Damnit, i would have fed mine some emmy pengdras instead of my venus.

Also i think one of my friends is a bot. The dude always gets descended dungeons bawses as a leader with like +100 over and over... Ok so maybe hes just a big casher? Well, currently he has a satan, with 40ish +rcvs... Why would you waste +rcvs on a satan, whyyy
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 03:47:01 PM
maybe they hacked the game or something

also for some reason sound now magically works on my android
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Post by: hyorinryu on September 26, 2013, 04:48:16 PM
Maybe my android will magically let me take screenshots.\
Quote from: Ghaleon link=topic=15370.msg1025120#msg1025120date=1380209695
Wut!? Damnit, i would have fed mine some emmy pengdras instead of my venus.

Also i think one of my friends is a bot. The dude always gets descended dungeons bawses as a leader with like +100 over and over... Ok so maybe hes just a big casher? Well, currently he has a satan, with 40ish +rcvs... Why would you waste +rcvs on a satan, whyyy

Reminds me. I saw a dude with Zeus-Dios at rank 70.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 05:04:53 PM
Maybe my android will magically let me take screenshots.
Reminds me. I saw a dude with Zeus-Dios at rank 70.
they probably started with a Kirin/Luci

...or they just "bought" him *shudder*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 26, 2013, 05:24:09 PM
blarg.. I can evolve and ultimate evolve my puzzdroid if only I had a green keeper.. Why do I always find myself needing those effing things shortly after a tuesday.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
at least you can farm the 5 (rofl) dragon fruits today for the ult evo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 26, 2013, 05:35:26 PM
I already have 10 so bleh.
I tend to keep em cuz they are worth 5k exp as food and make great tools for doing that last bit of levelling that is too small for a peng/high bu too much for common trash
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 26, 2013, 06:39:15 PM
Yeah I didn't realize how good fruits were just as XP, I might keep farming the Thursday dungeon even after I top off my stash. (I cleared out a bunch of evo mats I didn't need at one point but I do still try to keep around whatever's needed for everything I do own even if I don't intend to evo them any time soon due to oh god the XP - so I ulted my own Droidragon today but still need at least ooooooooooooooone more fruit ideally today :V)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
i got a naga on my 2nd account jesus shit at this point I'm pretty much guaranteed to be able to get farther on this account then my main

I think I'm just gonna devote my main account to pimpin out Isis

+297 MAX lvl MAX Skill MAX Awakening Isis here I come~


so someone did the math and in order to essentially guarantee getting a MAX skilled Echidna you need to feed it 60 Nagas

that as many as 6 tens and thats terrible
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 26, 2013, 08:08:33 PM
i got a naga on my 2nd account jesus shit at this point I'm pretty much guaranteed to be able to get farther on this account then my main

I think I'm just gonna devote my main account to pimpin out Isis

+297 MAX lvl MAX Skill MAX Awakening Isis here I come~


so someone did the math and in order to essentially guarantee getting a MAX skilled Echidna you need to feed it 60 Nagas

that as many as 6 tens and thats terrible

If it makes you feel better, seeing how Bastet buffs make her come in to Isis territory, maybe she'll get something too. Also, it seems that once again, Norse Gods are getting buffed   :)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 08:16:57 PM
All Isis really needs to be top tier is a better active ability for killing bosses. Either a gravity like Kirin, a full board tricolor change like the other Chinese girls would do, a temporary damage multiplier, or a mini defensive ability like the new Japanese gods. Unfortunately it's really unlikely that will happen as there are already skill up materials for her current ability.

Maybe they'll add on x3.5 if Red, Green, Blue matches so she can at least keep up with the Chinese girls. Then she can at least keep up a bit in damage while still keeping her versatility.

Actually that would be the best and most realistic option (on top of a secondary Green color) as it would be in line with Bastet's leader ability change, where she basically has the same leader ability as normal Bastet but on top of that gets extra damage with other combinations.

so yeah GUNGHO PLS


Also on a side note. Since it turns out +Orbs dont work on orb changers and I think Damage enhance actually does work on everyone on your team, this is effectively a buff to all Norse Gods since they all get 2 damage enhances. Their leader skill + 2 rows of orbs matches = x2.1 damage
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 26, 2013, 08:25:01 PM
Isis is still eminently useable though

Bastet was utterly useless before and is merely "kind of useful" now

She's still completely obliterated by kushinada :<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 26, 2013, 08:31:43 PM
Bastet is an okay sub on other Egyptian teams though because mass cats. (Of course this is not so useful in descends because there are no multi bosses aside from Two Heroes >_>)

And New Japanese Gods - New Meta

What a great way to get people to spend more stones next Godfest


...oh man I just realized fucking Satan with his 3 damage enhancers (6 with a Satan ally leader) will get an extra 120% damage with two row matches, effectively bringing his leader damage multiplier to x27. So yeah he hits as hard as Goemon/Kirin with a condition that's not that hard to meet (and still hits for 12.25x without meeting that condition). Even harder if you have subs with even more damage enhancers or +dark orbs.

Same goes for Dark metatron

Of course they buff the fucking dark types

Just for fun, a 6 Satan team gets x34.3 with one row and x56.36 damage with two rows. Good luck getting those matches without orb converters though (although it's more luck than skill). Also have fun with no Ceres for healing. At least you also get 40k HP rofl.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 02:14:26 AM
okay so there is a big downside to lucifer

holy shit he is so boring

even in normal dungeons i have to stall 35 turns to clear bosses its just auuuugggghhhhh
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 02:22:54 AM
Doesnt bother me cuz fact is nearly my entire cast is either "boring" or unuseable with my leads. Like orb changers for example are often incompatible with a chinese god. Actually, most of my gods are orb changers, along with my ninjas, and mystic knights. And many of my other leads are mono colour so they only really benefit from 1 or 2 orb changers.

Then are my dragons whose cooldown is only 5 turns faster than luci (other than rippers which iirc are faster). But yeah, the only activated ability i regularly use that doesnt have a 30 turn+ cd is my good old echnida.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 27, 2013, 02:29:03 AM
Doesnt bother me cuz fact is nearly my entire cast is either "boring" or unuseable with my leads. Like orb changers for example are often incompatible with a chinese god. Actually, most of my gods are orb changers, along with my ninjas, and mystic knights. And many of my other leads are mono colour so they only really benefit from 1 or 2 orb changers.

Then are my dragons whose cooldown is only 5 turns faster than luci (other than rippers which iirc are faster). But yeah, the only activated ability i regularly use that doesnt have a 30 turn+ cd is my good old echnida.

No Siren :(
I thought Orb changers work well with Chinese Gods. There's usually some orbs you don't want.  Also, why no Siren? She's so good I got two of her.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 27, 2013, 02:42:58 AM
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/chiparty.asp

Everyone except Meimei and Sakuya can use two mystic knight converters, plus heartbreakers.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 02:46:25 AM
well maybe some orb changers have some use but I got mystic flame knight who turns blue into red which is bad cuz I need blue for my haku, the blue ninja turns dark into blue which is bad cuz I need dark... you get the picture.

Even if there isn't a conflict, the number of times you need that one colour to complete the 3 combo is quite rare, and doing it just for added damage isn't that significant since you have a colour split and you'll really only have 1 or 2 creatures of that colour most likely. My persephone would be pretty good with my haku for orb changing I guess but I don't like gobbling hearts if I don't have to, and her base stats aren't impressive either.

And I do have a siren, I rarely use her though because I find I don't need a healer that often. Most of the time I can get by with echnida's delay. I'll heal up in that timeframe. That and I can't skill her up... actually I wanted to post that.. I just fed 12 marine gobbers to my siren.. 12.. still no skill up, and yes, it's x2 skillup.. ASFDJKLASKFJ. and yes, I've fed alot more than 12 on previous x2 events.. WHYYYY. Whoever said 60 echnida's guarantee's a maxed out echnida has hax luck imo. I don't even think 6-effing-hundred is enough to max my effing siren.

However I also got really really lucky... I opened 10 pal eggs and got: 1 super gold dragon, 1 super black dragon, 1 king red dragon, 1 king red dragon, AND an effing green golem (didn't suika or someone desperately want a green golem? I got one from a PAL egg sucker! hahaha =P)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 03:02:29 AM
i have slain gods and kings

but i still cant get a fucking green golem
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 03:03:55 AM
it just fell from my pal egg like it fell from a tree! (ok sorry I'll stop).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 27, 2013, 03:05:41 AM
i have slain gods and kings

but i still cant get a fucking green golem

You farm the green keepers?

Hmm...I don't think I can evolve Lucifer in time for Valkyrie. I guess I'll just wait till next time.

it just fell from my pal egg like it fell from a tree! (ok sorry I'll stop).

I got Dryad that way. Now I just need to wait for buffs.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 03:34:26 AM
valkyrie is coming? nice... I wonder if I can take her now that I have a cosmo love venus AND a lucifer... should be easy *IF* I can get the right partner I think, but I can never get the ones I need for 1 day dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 03:59:52 AM
You farm the green keepers?

Hmm...I don't think I can evolve Lucifer in time for Valkyrie. I guess I'll just wait till next time.

I got Dryad that way. Now I just need to wait for buffs.
ive been farming every single dungeon that can drop him dozens of times
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Thaws on September 27, 2013, 04:42:32 AM
http://mobile.gungho.jp/news/pad/130927_sinka.html
Thank goddd they didn't stick to the leaked leader skill of Bastet earlier!!
Her new leader skill starts counting from 4 combos and goes up to a maximum of 4 times. (Assuming it works like Kushinadahime, it probably starts at 4 combo 2.5 times and goes up to 4 times at 7 combos, now we know why Ookuninushi was boosted to 6 combos 4 times.)
Also she's getting a Recover sub-type. Awesome :]

Also *insert element* Enchance skills gets boosted to last 3 turns... what.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 04:57:06 AM
so now she's practically horus-tier just like that. *boggle*
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 27, 2013, 05:29:26 AM
fuck

yes
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 12:08:07 PM
so Isis is the weakest Egyptian god now

also I just ran Friday dungeon 5 times 0 mythlit

[GUNGHO PLSING INTENSIFIES]



ugh not to mention even ADK is now x3

gungho buff isis PLS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 02:58:38 PM
Also Edible, Angelion is becoming a healer which is amazing for Healer teams

Gets rid of Dark instead of Fire and it has much better HP, and it's Light instead of Water so you'll deal even more damage

Metatron, Valk, Angelion, King Shynee, Echidna fun times


Also Bastet is a healer too just cause
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 27, 2013, 03:32:53 PM
My phone won't turn on. I might lose both of my accounts.  :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 03:40:27 PM
Lame, goodluck.

And i dont know if isis needs a buff just yet, shes still hella useful imo. I consider myself proficient enough to use horus but ra? Ehhh, id take an isis over ra (or anubus) any day. Anubus requires luck. I mean you have to have the enjre field match 3 orbs exactly everywhere for you to get a 10 combo, not one match of 4+ allowed without needing luck drops to compensate... Yeah he hits like a rogue planet, but i hate relying on luck.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 03:58:11 PM
All I ask for is adding x3.5 when matching tricolor to her leader ability

That's it
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 04:07:37 PM
Then she'd practically be omni chinese goddess though (minus kirin) only with her feeble heal. Chinese actives are great for them, but isis' leader ability practically never needs such a thing ever unless you got like 20 hearts on the board or something.

Edit:

Arrrrgh! I just did a dungeon for the sole purpose of adding a guest leader to my friends group. Was a level 85+26 rcv evolved ammy. But i accidently twitched as i meant to hit yes and hit no i dont want this loser as my friend! Noooo!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 04:22:50 PM
its still better than nothing and probably the best they can do without making her op

its not like they can change her active ability otherwise that would be kinda a big fuck you those who skilled her up. and any minor adjustments to it wouldn't really help much

on the other hand when max skilled her ability is effectively equivalent to an auto heal awakening ability, healing you 600 HP for free every turn so it's not that bad i guess, although still useless for bursting

maybe if they made it so you can skill her up to the point where it has a 1 turn cooldown :getdown:


on another note, Vamp and Gigas are STILL waiting for their ulti evos...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 04:33:05 PM
...i just opened 2 pal eggs and got another green golem. Sorry.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 04:34:07 PM
pls
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 27, 2013, 04:39:33 PM
also I just ran Friday dungeon 5 times 0 mythlit

[GUNGHO PLSING INTENSIFIES]

10 times, no mythlit.  I need like 6 for various things <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 05:09:09 PM
I can never get the damn things from the friday dungeon either.

Not that they are common but I actually have some decent luck getting them from blazing highway->noble lion (I do it to farm red pengs mostly but I managed to snag a few mythits while doing so).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 27, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
I need 3 dubmythlits, a dubtopalit, and 4 regular mythlits (thankfully not *urgently* but, again, like to have my stuff early and keep around for whenever).

Shrine of Sprites Expert consistently drops me the dubamelit on wave 5. :colonveeplusalpha:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 27, 2013, 06:49:26 PM
I ran the Wednesday dungeon 5 times trying to get the 2 purple masks I needed to evolve Hera.
I got 4 Mystic Masks before I succeeded in my primary goal  :derp:

Also wtf how do I beat the first floor of 2 Heroes?  I was running the final (not ulti) Toyceratops, Siren and 3 RK + the dual resist Neptune so I'd have the HP to survive the worst case scenario at the vampire floor based on the wiki page but I only managed to take out the light devil before I died  :fail:  I'm a little short on my mono-red team HP wise as well so I think I gotta sit this one out again. 

On the plus side, I got my first Titan from the friendegg machine last night so yay I can finally retire my Rowdy Red Goblin and that'll help in the HP department for next time at least?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 27, 2013, 07:00:13 PM
Tried Expert looking for dub-mythlits. Got a dub-amelit. Did regular. Got a mythlit from one of the regular waves.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 27, 2013, 10:24:10 PM
Ohhhh man, I got a mythlit!

... after ~200 stamina worth of runs <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 27, 2013, 10:31:38 PM
I ran the Wednesday dungeon 5 times trying to get the 2 purple masks I needed to evolve Hera.
I got 4 Mystic Masks before I succeeded in my primary goal  :derp:

Also wtf how do I beat the first floor of 2 Heroes?  I was running the final (not ulti) Toyceratops, Siren and 3 RK + the dual resist Neptune so I'd have the HP to survive the worst case scenario at the vampire floor based on the wiki page but I only managed to take out the light devil before I died  :fail:  I'm a little short on my mono-red team HP wise as well so I think I gotta sit this one out again. 

On the plus side, I got my first Titan from the friendegg machine last night so yay I can finally retire my Rowdy Red Goblin and that'll help in the HP department for next time at least?

I remember when I firsted did the Two Heroes dungeon, I tried double resists and it took me nine stones. I ended up going Drawn Joker + Luci with a Siren a bunch of defensive dark stuff and it only took 4, one of which shouldn't have happened and the other 3 were on the first stage. The first stage is the hardest btw, especially if you're doing a resist team. The demons you resist will chunk you and you'll die in 2-3 turns. If you can get past that, you're in, so don't be afraid to throw a stone on it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 10:43:22 PM
i wanted to see if i could beat two heroes with my Isis

but then the friday dungeon ate all of my stamina


ALSO PORING TOMMOROW YES YES YES
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on September 27, 2013, 10:46:47 PM
Ah, well since I already have a Cu Chu I got from like my 2nd or 3rd ever REM pull and Berserk wouldn't jive with my Suzaku crew I'm not in any rush for one of them war trophies and thus not worth blowing stones.  But perhaps later on down the line I'll have the team to take it on with minimal fuss - I took my monored there as I was able to just hit 20k HP, but I couldn't heal fast enough for the vampire stage :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 10:48:24 PM
yay poring, now I get to eat like 25 creatures and not skill up once.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 10:56:23 PM
yay poring, now I get to eat like 25 creatures and not skill up once.
aw yes i am so ready for the disappointment

which is pretty much this game in a nutshell

except for those few times you get when you want which just keeps bringing you back for more ;____;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 27, 2013, 10:59:24 PM
oh hey the next godfest

...is pretty terrible :derp:


also 3 sets of gods which means an even lower chance of getting what you want :D
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 27, 2013, 11:21:41 PM
I like greco roman gods, but norse are lol, I still think most indian gods make some pretty good subs. Alas I have so few stones cuz I blew 2 pulls on carnival of drools.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 28, 2013, 01:36:49 AM
Finally leveled my Valk. Is it just me, or does it seem like Princess Valkyrie has a large frilly white dress that she only wears for a short amount of time, and it's right after you gave her a ton of gifts?

Edit: This is apparently how I think of wedding dresses.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 28, 2013, 03:08:06 AM
I like greco roman gods, but norse are lol, I still think most indian gods make some pretty good subs. Alas I have so few stones cuz I blew 2 pulls on carnival of drools.
Why you diss Norse man? They cool :(

So close to max-skilling Naga. Just one more.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 28, 2013, 03:09:50 AM
i still dont have a single skill up on her :<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 28, 2013, 05:15:50 AM
Well, thanks to customer support, my phone turned on again. Time to see if I can go for Hera-Ur.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 28, 2013, 01:54:33 PM
aaarggg almost beat hera ur this time

but i accidentally did too much damage to her while charging lucifer and she hit 25% HP and hit me for 60k :<

stupid lucifer why do you take so long to charge
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 28, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
aaarggg almost beat hera ur this time

but i accidentally did too much damage to her while charging lucifer and she hit 25% HP and hit me for 60k :<

stupid lucifer why do you take so long to charge

Same thing happened to me. Why are there so many water binds in this place? It's not like they're the same attibute all the time. It's so dumb.  The other descendeds don't throw teamwide binds every other stage.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 28, 2013, 03:12:17 PM
if you have two gravities and punch hera ur down to 50% at the start, she wont water bind at all


also yay no blue/green poring drops so far

guess i should just blow all my stones here cause fuck descends
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 28, 2013, 03:22:09 PM
if you have two gravities and punch hera ur down to 50% at the start, she wont water bind at all


also yay no blue/green poring drops so far

guess i should just blow all my stones here cause fuck descends

The problem with that is that it requires beating Hera-Is. I went in with I&I, double Sirens, Midguard, Sigfried, and a friend's Hermes.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 28, 2013, 03:59:16 PM
oh man look at all these skill ups im not getting
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 28, 2013, 04:51:17 PM
Hera-Ur get. <3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 28, 2013, 07:21:06 PM
Hey guys, I learned that Parvati changing skin color was actually in the mythology.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 28, 2013, 07:27:17 PM
well shit

shows how much i know

which is jack shit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 28, 2013, 07:50:07 PM
e:
dammit

i post too much in these two threads
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 28, 2013, 08:22:17 PM
e:
dammit

i post too much in these two threads

These two are pretty much the only threads I post in.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 29, 2013, 04:32:39 PM
MAX skilled!

...my mastering....

>_>


all this feeding

all this not skilling up

i both anticipate and fear the day i can skill up isis
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 29, 2013, 10:30:06 PM
fed some of my Nagas. No skill-up. Oh well.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 29, 2013, 11:10:20 PM
i wonder if i should try to skill up echidna or just hold onto them until awakening comes out


alright Vamp finally MAX skilled, after like several months

Chu still only skilled up twice so far even after all the poporings hes eaten

also ghostrings seem to almost never drop. good thing i dont really care about lilith skill ups
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 29, 2013, 11:55:10 PM
Lilith is the only thing I have left to skill up from there, so I run it anyway just because <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 30, 2013, 12:01:36 AM
Lilith is the only thing I have left to skill up from there, so I run it anyway just because <_<

I would run it so I could have drops for my future Valkyrie, but I already have 30 from the last time it was here. I got a bit bored of it honestly.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 12:03:51 AM
meanwhile

I've been grinding up the porings
All the live-long day.
I've been grinding up the porings
Just to pass the time away.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 30, 2013, 12:28:17 AM
meanwhile

I've been grinding up the porings
All the live-long day.
I've been grinding up the porings
Just to pass the time away.

What are you trying to skill up?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 12:29:42 AM
The Two Heroes

Also saving up Drops in case I get Valk
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on September 30, 2013, 05:37:38 AM
Didn't even realize super sapphires were today until like 10 minutes ago. Happen to be in the group that it was actually active for at the time. No Odin friends up but had a dark Nepu up and realized not only does that let me survive just fine but also actually get through past its fucking armor. :V

Now my own dark Nepu is level [lots]. (Figured he's a sub in the mono-blue I don't use much and also a frequent last-ditch leader for the easier Descendeds.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on September 30, 2013, 12:21:16 PM
What has two thumbs and did Fortdragon five times, receiving zero pengdras?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
oh shit im almost out of coins because all i did was run poring instead of weekend dungeon
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 30, 2013, 03:49:49 PM
I never thought people had coin issues after reaching the point of having better dudes han dublits. Provided you only feed metal dragons, and pengs (obviously not the regular kind of metal dragon), youll make moeny slowly instead of lose it, and you wont really level that much slower, all without doing weekend dungeon at all.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 03:58:23 PM
leveling up high level dudes tends to get really expensive

as well as +eggs
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 09:05:59 PM
Alright Siegfried MAXed! Also Lilith almost MAX because Ghostrings decided to drop now

Now there's just Chu... who's proving to be quite a problem...

also i have 20 drops eating up box space


i wonder if i should keep spending stones to MAX chu or save them for valk...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 30, 2013, 09:55:09 PM
Valk is worth saving stones for
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 10:15:31 PM
yeah probably since I literally have all the subs for a Valk team except Valk herself :V :V :V

still dammit Chu why wont you skill up aaaaaa everyone else is maxed but you do you like being alone huh

man if i feed all these drops to valk and she ends up getting MAXed i'm replacing you with her Chu
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on September 30, 2013, 11:14:24 PM
yeah probably since I literally have all the subs for a Valk team except Valk herself :V :V :V

still dammit Chu why wont you skill up aaaaaa everyone else is maxed but you do you like being alone huh

man if i feed all these drops to valk and she ends up getting MAXed i'm replacing you with her Chu

Chu took a bit for me too. He's still a highlander though. So who's shooting for Valkyrie tomorrow? I'm using Bleu, because all my decent stuff is blue. Lucifer isn't evolved yet(why didn't they have super metals when I needed them?)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on September 30, 2013, 11:20:02 PM
tbh, I may go for a second valkyrie myself.  She's so damn useful.

I'm terrified of getting one fully evolved and skilled again though <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on September 30, 2013, 11:39:05 PM
I cleared master poring tower 3 times now and have failed to gain a single skill level on anything... I hate you tuys qq.

However i cleared legendary difficulty light war dragon, whew, thats my firat legendary samurai dungeon clear. Hard to believe even just master war dragon was too much for me when it started.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 11:45:51 PM
Chu took a bit for me too. He's still a highlander though. So who's shooting for Valkyrie tomorrow? I'm using Bleu, because all my decent stuff is blue. Lucifer isn't evolved yet(why didn't they have super metals when I needed them?)
Valk isnt tommorow echidna is :derp:

I cleared master poring tower 3 times now and have failed to gain a single skill level on anything... I hate you tuys qq.

However i cleared legendary difficulty light war dragon, whew, thats my firat legendary samurai dungeon clear. Hard to believe even just master war dragon was too much for me when it started.
i think i've cleared master poring tower like 40 times this weekend or so...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on September 30, 2013, 11:49:37 PM
I -need- to go for another valk I fear. >>...

I have too few good options for a healer team.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on September 30, 2013, 11:51:49 PM
oh wait shit Verche isn't a Healer

I might need to get Two Valks


also why does the mystical water knight not have his own dungeon. everyone else does :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 01, 2013, 12:13:34 AM
Valk isnt tommorow echidna is :derp:
i think i've cleared master poring tower like 40 times this weekend or so...

40 times wut. You using magic stones to refresh stam or something?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 12:21:18 AM
if you have two gravities and punch hera ur down to 50% at the start, she wont water bind at all


also yay no blue/green poring drops so far

guess i should just blow all my stones here cause fuck descends
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 01, 2013, 12:28:14 AM
I nust snagged a level 99 + 20 bastet... Friending in advance.
I also recently got a level 99+80 ammy... Eeek. I should zombie thru endless with her lawl.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 12:31:28 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/xx917TY.png)
look out its mother fucking odin cat


also new bastet is white

does she have changing skin color in her lore too
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 01:39:24 AM
So Porings final result

Mastering - MAXed
Vamp - MAXed
Siegfried - MAXed
Lilith - 1 away from MAX, still have some ghostrings but she's max level so i wanna evolve her first
Future Valk - so many drops
Chu - lv 4

so almost accomplished everything I wanted except Chu skill up rate was far behinds the others for some reason and Poporings taunted me endlessly by always being the last monster to die and then nothing drops

oh boy Echinda skill ups tommorow
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 01:56:56 AM
Echinda skill ups

:objection!:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 01:58:38 AM
okay echidna skill up attempts





...echidna farming attempts ._.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 01, 2013, 02:26:12 AM
Maybe an Echinda skill up.  Singular.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 02:30:52 AM
Maybe an Echinda skill up.  Singular.

Yeah, basically.

My experience, every time scarlet snake princess comes up, is one of two things:

1) I get a ton of nagas and one/no skillup

2) I get one/no nagas and one/no skillup

Naga was the first 3-star I ever got in this game and she's been at two skillups basically since I started playing.  I suspect I've tried skilling her up 30+ times.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 01, 2013, 04:01:40 AM
Sylph and Vritra from the godfest ugh. (Indra and Vritra were basically the only things in the fest I'd've minded hitting, too. Well and I guess maybe Minerva but even then being able to evo her for two resists is nice enough.) At least it's green carnival so the Sylph popped out at 30 (and I had a king emerald in my box too!).

... still less sad than the Mystic Stone Knight I hit in the JP godfest. :V I miiiiiiiiiiiiiiight be able to grind out another pull before it ends but it doesn't feel likely.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 04:04:56 AM
I got an evolved sylph.  Better than a not evolved sylph I guess <_<

I guess I don't really care anymore, bastet-chan is all I need <3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 01, 2013, 04:22:04 AM
I got an evolved sylph.  Better than a not evolved sylph I guess <_<

I guess I don't really care anymore, bastet-chan is all I need <3

~<3

Whatever, it makes my advancement (in all respects, I know progress in normals/technicals isn't a big deal but even besides that. should try to hit Ocean of Heaven at some point anyway though I guess) slow but I mostly just want ALL THE THINGS and to evolve ALL THE THINGS. Or at least as much ALL THE THINGS as I can manage to get myself without spending monies. =P
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 01, 2013, 05:55:25 AM
Imma pass this godfest. While i want the resist gods fairly badly, i have no interest at all in norse ones, and indian gods... Well shiva is t a must anymore thanks to puzzdroiddragon, green girl is... Well i have no greens, lakshmi is lol, indra would be neat but im not desperate, and I already have a vrita... Speaking of vrita, is it just me or does he have like the worst ultimate upgrade of all gods (and adds 15 cost instead of 5, dang)?  Its a shame too cuz it looks so cool qq.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 01, 2013, 06:41:47 AM
I made it I got back up to 5 stones 6 minutes before the JP godfest ended o/

... and then pulled an Undine. orz
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 01, 2013, 11:02:11 AM
I wonder if all godfests will feature 3 "races" from now on. If so the next will be:

the lamer greek/roman that are to be buffed soonish
 Devils, which I think are terrible but with hera-ur, and..wasnt there another pro devil leader? I forget
 chinese, eek
 Angels, eeek (though now that I have lucifer I'm not so desperate)
Japanese... half/half I'd say, I particularly want demon viper orochi or whatever
Egyptian, eek.

Based on length of wait, we'd get angel, devil, chinese... Quite drooly, though chinese came with angels last time and it'd be weird for them to come paired again.
So probably angel, devil, and Japanese since gungho seems to like teasing people regarding being stingy with dem chinese gods.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 01, 2013, 11:24:44 AM
Threw 2 rolls and scored a Fafnir and Thor ???
Neither seems super useful to me right now - the former looks like my starter dragon but I already have him, and the latter isn't going to lead any sort of non existent yellow team I have so whoops.  At least they're both gold egg dudes? 
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 03:40:38 PM
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Awakening System will be available at the US version soon
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
I blame Suikama for my inabilty to post in the correct thread.

I got one skillup from nagas today.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 05:25:53 PM
nishishi~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 05:33:42 PM
nishishi~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAavGv-OzXY

Never gets old.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 05:41:53 PM
Lucifer evolved

cheesiest monster in the game GET
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 06:41:13 PM
...i skilled up naga...

ON MY ALT ACCOUNT HOLY SHIT

WHY IS THIS ACCOUNT SO FUCKING LUCKY


also i got the extra naga from clearing Snake Princess ON INTERMEDIATE

then I fed it AND IMMEDIATE FIRST TRY SKILL UP

WHAT. THE. FUCK?


oh yeah also mythlits drop like flies

from normal dungeons
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 08:54:08 PM
Oh man I saw an ult. evo. bastet video. *_*

pls.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 09:04:31 PM
i cant wait for the next patch either gungho plssss
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 09:09:02 PM
Will ult evo bastet's awakening stuff be different from regular bastet?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 09:16:39 PM
Awakening abilities are the same for Ult evos always

The thing is if your monster is ult evoed, you need to awaken it using an also ult evoed monster, because awakenings only work with the EXACT same monster

BUT if you ult evo a monster it keeps all awakened levels and awaken levels transfer like +eggs

So what you can do is if say you have an Ult evoed Valk and a bunch of mini valks. You can evo all your mini valks to the pre ult stage (lol good luck with that), then awaken them together so you have one valk that's awoken to level 3, THEN ult it and feed it to your true Valk. That way you dont have to ult evo every single guy you feed to your main guy.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 09:22:42 PM
Comedy option: Fuck that noise, farm tamadras instead <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 09:30:58 PM
Hahahahaha

You thought farming nagas was annoying

I've heard people ran metal dragons like 60 times: 1 tamadra drop

So have fun with that


its definitely more worth it to just go the certain route with farmables like Nagas and save Tamadras for REM Gods or I guess Heart breakers in particular because they take more to evolve than anyone else in the game
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 09:32:47 PM
Still more efficient than trying to farm bastets, amirite?  :fail:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 01, 2013, 09:35:59 PM
Kinda lame though how its noticeably less painful for people who get the creatures from now on as opposed to those who had them all along.

Also im reasonably sure they balanced it but I'd lol if they didnt cap the "skill cooldown -1" skill to 1 turn cd. Imagine minerva wuickbombs with 0 turn cd >=D.

Though even a 1 turn CD would be pretty nuts. People who cash and actually have her skill maxed must be lovin it.

Maxed out isis quickheal would be sweet too. Who needs siren leader ability when isis does it as a sub?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 09:39:18 PM
Well she's a REM god so yeah :V

Oh and uh have fun Awakening Metatron :getdown:


Also I was gonna say that Bastet's Awakening skills suck, but Extend time is actually really helpful with her new leader ability and Enhanced Wood attacks turned out to be not bad.

However Poison resist is literally useless right now and it's the first skill you get on her :derp:

Kinda lame though how its noticeably less painful for people who get the creatures from now on as opposed to those who had them all along.

Also im reasonably sure they balanced it but I'd lol if they didnt cap the "skill cooldown -1" skill to 1 turn cd. Imagine minerva wuickbombs with 0 turn cd >=D.

Though even a 1 turn CD would be pretty nuts. People who cash and actually have her skill maxed must be lovin it.

Maxed out isis quickheal would be sweet too. Who needs siren leader ability when isis does it as a sub?
Skill Boost only charges all your skills. It's not the same as a Skill Up as after you activate the skill then it goes on regular cooldown.


Also everyone gets a free Tamadra when the update comes out so you can figure out who you want to give it to now

Obviously I'm going for Isis BV
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 01, 2013, 09:46:57 PM
I'm not sure who to give it to. Kirin has those nice +light orbs, but the people I actually use most of the time are I&I and Tyrannos. I'm not going out of my way for Tamadras. I'll just get them as they come. That philosophy tends to leaves the least mad with this game.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 10:16:23 PM
I&I gets Enhanced Water Att as their First Skill which is pretty good for when you pop those Water orb changers and unleash a big combo.

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I'll just get them as they come. That philosophy tends to leaves the least mad with this game.
Yep :V The rule is if you dont want it, it will drop :derp:


Also looks like its time for another tier list
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 01, 2013, 10:53:58 PM
Oh and uh have fun Awakening Metatron :getdown:

Yeah, call me when metatron actually has a use
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 01, 2013, 11:02:38 PM

Yep :V The rule is if you dont want it, it will drop :derp:




That's how I got Kirin. I wanted Karin and Lucifer.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 01, 2013, 11:18:08 PM
Not sure who to awaken, i was going to guess haku but when i went to look at hers she has none. CHINESE GODS SUCH AUIUGHHH!!! (Kidding).
Then i looked at luci, his suck too. In the end im thinking either siggy or venus. I like venus' more but i rarely use her (shes sooo good when she is needed though). Siggy's arent bad but not great but i almost always use him.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 01, 2013, 11:23:37 PM
Not sure who to awaken, i was going to guess haku but when i went to look at hers she has none. CHINESE GODS SUCH AUIUGHHH!!! (Kidding).
Then i looked at luci, his suck too. In the end im thinking either siggy or venus. I like venus' more but i rarely use her (shes sooo good when she is needed though). Siggy's arent bad but not great but i almost always use him.

What do you mean? Haku gets +reds, blues, and blacks, doesn't she? Are you looking at the evolved version?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 11:34:58 PM
TAMADORA TIER LIST

So here's a priority list of monsters for feeding your first free Tamadora to.

Isis tier
Isis - I'm fucking biased okay

Top tier - if you main one of these guys then Tamadra away (typically good leaders with skill boost as their first ability)
Both Odins - You get Skill Boost right off the bat. Plus if you have an Odin you've probably been pimping him out with +eggs and whatnot for PAL points anyways so why stop now?
Astaroth - If you use her as your primary leader then Skill Boost will be nice for getting all of those gravities up sooner.
Amaterasu - BIND HEAL :D. And also later on BIND IMMUNITY :D :D. If Ammy's your main girl then go for it *coughArashicough*
Norse Gods - They get enhanced att, which doesn't look like it adds that much but technically speaking neither does +orbs (and I think single skillwise this is stronger). But extra damage is extra damage, plus they get another enhanced att at level 3 for more damage. I still do prefer +orbs over enhanced att. damage but hell you can always get both for maximum damage fun. Also Norse leaders are pretty much the only good leaders aside from DarkMeta/Satan that gets this skill and Norse gods are gonna get even more future buffs so go for it.
Dark Metatron- Enhanced att for more damage and then afterwards a skill boost party yay
Chinese gods - You get +Orbs of their main attribute. Definitely worth if you use them as your main leader as it will help you deal EVEN MORE DAMAGE especially once you get more +orbs your subs as well.
The upcoming new japanese gods - holy shit these guys are OP

High tier - good alternatives to the top tier
Hades - He gets +orbs right away so get it if you main a mono dark team, but prioritize your leader first.
Neptune - Same as Hades but for water teams.
Light Metatron - Auto heal is nice, but its only for 500 HP. She does get other good things down the line as well though, like full bind immunity(!), bind heal, and even a skill boost, but good luck getting that many tamadra

Mid tier - mostly leveling up for better later skills tier
Shiva - First skill is extended orb move time which is eh for him cause he's not really a combo kinda guy. His next skill is Skill Boost though which is great so if you main him then feed him one and farm up the next for essentially a skill up on his ability.
Uriel/Gabriel/Micheal - +Atk is meh, but their second skill is Skill Boost, so if you use these guys as your primary leader then you can work towards it with your first Tamadra.
Ares/Hermes/Artemis - Ditto above
Heartbreakers - Same as the trios above but you get +orbs instead of skill boost. +HP is actually pretty good for Valk who needs all the HP she can get, but you mostly want to set up for +orbs to set up a potential 100% enhanced orb party.
Orbchanger Ninjas - Ditto heartbreakers, but they also get skill boost as thier lv 3 ability oh baby.
Golems - They all get +orbs yay. They are 'technically' farmable but as some of you know how well that has gone for me. Still you're better off prioritizing REM gods and Skill boosts.
Venus - first skill is garbage, but then auto heal and skill boost saves the day
Ceres- Bind heal, but you probably don't use her as a leader.
Bastet - poison resist is useless, but enhanced att is good... but it's her level 3 ability, welp. second ability is useful with her ult evo ability but still kinda eh

Decent but who even uses these guys tier
Parvati - She gets poison resist first, but +orbs second. Useful for Green Goemon teams, but who the hell here has one of those?
Lakshimi - No one uses her, but if for some reason you do, then you get a Skill Boost yay
Minerva - No one u(ry

Low tier
Any REM god with a +stat ability. You get 10 +eggs worth of stats, but you're better off going for better skills first. If your lead guy is already fully MAXed out and you still want more stats then sure go ahead.
Elementals - They get skill boost right away and are getting buffed. Other than that they skill are kinda meh but hey buffs are cool.

No tier (typically guys that can be farmed)
Descend Gods -  Zeus/Heras/Satan/Goemon/etc - Their first skill sucks (except for Satan) All of these guys are farmable and although it costs 880k xp to evolve them, you're better off saving tamadra for REM monsters and just farming these guys for awakening.
Mystic Knights - Same as the heartbreakers, but their first skill is IMO the worst in the game. Also these guys can be farmed, which is the biggest reason to not consider them, except for maybe if you main ADK and really really like him.
King Slimes - most of them just get stats (which they do need), Bubblie gets Skill boosts which is amazing, but all of these guys can be farmed easily. If you've ever tried skilling them up, well this is 100x easier.
Lucifer - +atk seems like a big waste. Maybe if Lucifer is your main leader and there's no one else you give a fuck about. But even then you're better off giving it to Hades or something.
Healer girls - Oh hey finally a use for all those Dryad copies you got from the REM! :D

Absolutely not
Horus - useless
Ra - USELESS, ITS ALL USELESS AAAAAA
Dungeon Dragons - You can very easily farm them up and feed them to each other for awakening. Please don't waste your precious tamadras here.
Anyone farmable really
Anyone REM god you have duplicates of. Just evolve and use the duplicate.


SO WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?
If your main leader is in the Top or High tier, then go ahead and let them eat your first Tamadra. If your favorite leader is Mid tier and you also own a higher tier leader who you dont use as much (like hyo's Kirin or Triangle's Leilan), then you can either choose to either feed the higher tier or your main and farm a second Tamadra for that skill boost/+orb bonus (in the case of triangle's Ares, O4rfish's Shiva, and Chaore's Hermes). Either is fine. For those of you who are still using Siren as a primary leader, it's probably best to hold onto the little bugger for now until you get someone good from a Godfest or something.

tl;dr
feed your main leader unless their skills suck


Also Ghaleon you have to awaken your Haku for both of our sakes :V :V :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 11:39:10 PM
Also Edible if you hate your Metatron so much then you're probably best off going with Valk. Bastet's first skill sucks while Valk gets HP which she desperately needs. She then gets +orbs as her second skill which is also great. Hell the final +50 atk is good too.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 01, 2013, 11:51:10 PM
Blarg i was looking at non evo haku thanks.

And your lis missed venus, whose skills are good minus her first.
First is lame but 2nd is 500 autoheal which is better than it seems because if you're using her, you are taking advantage of 60% (possibly more depending on friend)  damage resist, so itll be over 1000 hp of effective reheal for something that isnt even normally a healer.

I was able to clear legendary samurai light dragon using her and minerva, thats 80% reduction, so 2500 damage effectively self-healed damage every turn if i had suh an ability.

Then she gets skill boost too =p, which frankly, i find dungeons i need resistance leads for, i tend to need my skills ASAP in those dungeons more than any other (mostly cuz the resist is for the boss and not the trash so the trash is the biggest threat).
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 01, 2013, 11:55:14 PM
lol oops i totally skipped over her because i saw two way attack and just went nope

All the Roman gods are decent, but also kinda situational because they are only useful as leaders for dungeons they resist

I wouldn't feed them my first tamadra but I would get to them eventually


Okay I did skip a few others that I didnt think deserved mentioning because they arent really used as leaders or used at all.
Starter dragons
They do get skill boost but only as their third ability. Also you can farm them from certain dungeons. If you really have no one else to awaken then I guessss you can go for it but eh imo a waste.

Ripper dragons
Same as above. Their first two skills are really useless as an additional 4% reduction on top of their 50% reduction skill really only amounts to an additional 2% reduction. Also farmable, so just... dont.

Carbuncle/Goblin/Ogres/Devils
If you're using them, they get really good awakening skills, but you can easily easily easily farm them please dont waste tamadra on them please please just dont

Late bloomer dragons/Riders
They get good skills but they still suck as subs. If you pulled 123091 of these guys from the REM just awaken them with each other.

Hino/Orochi/Susano
See "Any REM god with a +stat ability."

Yomi
If you're using Yomi in an anubis team then awakening is actually a good idea. +orbs and a whole extra second to move orbs is great, but really only for Anubis teams.

Virtra
If you're using him on a mono dark team then you actually get some good damage + skill boost with him.

Toy dragons
Resist skill ugh. Bind resist is useful but they need to be level 3 ughh

Mythical Beast
If you're lucky enough to have one of these, they get some good skills, but not as their first one. Especially Phoenix's trolly auto heal godfuckingdammit.

Sticker girl
Auto heal and bind heal are nice but first skill is just +hp

Other archdemons
If you're using them as leaders then sure, otherwise nah

Anubis
level 3 extend move can be useful, but bind resist is in front. would have been nicer if he just has 3 extend moves. okay that would be fucking awesome actually.

Athena
(http://i.imgur.com/zbJpPGM.jpg)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 02, 2013, 12:00:41 AM
Also Edible if you hate your Metatron so much then you're probably best off going with Valk. Bastet's first skill sucks while Valk gets HP which she desperately needs. She then gets +orbs as her second skill which is also great. Hell the final +50 atk is good too.

Yeah I was planning on awakening valk anyway, she's in practically every team I run regardless
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 02, 2013, 12:26:03 AM
For Healer teams in general you want pretty much everyone awoken as much as possible because you get a bunch of stats out of it.

+HP and +ATK for Valk. +HP and +Atk for Echidna. +HP for Siren (and Auto healll). and +HPx2 for King Shynee. For a total of +500 HP for 1 valk, +600HP if you have two.

It's probably best to save Tamadra for Valks and then just farm and evolve the rest.


Also if anyone else wants team awakening consulting then feel free to ask because I just fucking love theorycrafting
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 02, 2013, 01:44:22 AM
ugh i just realized beating valk with goemon partly hinges on NOT getting any water demons on floor four

i just know im gonna get fucked over


oh hey the masks CAN ALSO BIND

Edible how did you clear this shit
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 02, 2013, 02:19:48 AM
ugh i just realized beating valk with goemon partly hinges on NOT getting any water demons on floor four

i just know im gonna get fucked over


oh hey the masks CAN ALSO BIND

Edible how did you clear this shit

If it makes you feel better, I'm going to tackle it with a Snow Dome Dragon team. It'll take forever, and if I get a fire demon, I'm screwed. I also have to tank several Valk blades to the face for like 30-50 turns.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 02, 2013, 02:28:36 AM
So I may have just maxed my echidna.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 02, 2013, 02:36:09 AM
hmm, so I was thinking I'd have an advantage with valk cuz of my venus but then I noticed pretty much none of the trash is light, and many of them can nearly 1shot a venus resist team I make... Looks like I'd just have to double luci+hera sub it. The boss herself would be pretty hairy though because she'd kill me in 3 turns with an all black beef team using her weak attack. 2 turns if I had a siren, which probably I shouldn't since my siren's skill level is just 3.. yarg. Even all that, the triple demon round is pretty serious... Yeahh. I think I'll just say out of my resources still....

...

oh wait.. I was looking at mythical. herp....
Legend looks like I might be able to do it with a bit of luck regarding no bad luck streaks with hearts. But still will be close since my luci and hera are still only level 50ish, my siren isn't pimped out, and only skill level 3, and I don't even know if I have the teamsize to fill up the last two slots with both rainbowkeepers, maybe. not sure. Maybe I'd use echnida instead of siren. I just find I do better with her. She doesn't heal directly but gives me 4 turns to do so. When does Valk use her 10 turn shield though, turn 1? PDX doesn't say. Is it a 1 time use?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 02, 2013, 02:47:21 AM
Her shield is one time 1st turn use

Also if you have a dual luci team with three gravities you can actually one hit kill Valk even on Mythical :V


Also I think its possible to clear Legend with Haku since she's dark
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 02, 2013, 03:02:33 AM
Yeah proooooooobably Ammy for me though I am trying to branch out a bit. (Did pull a Shiva this morning, my mono options are expanding!)

Also loooooooool (attached). And I wasn't even really trying, just popping skills. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 02, 2013, 03:27:41 AM
Yeah proooooooobably Ammy for me though I am trying to branch out a bit. (Did pull a Shiva this morning, my mono options are expanding!)

Also loooooooool (attached). And I wasn't even really trying, just popping skills. :V

I've only done that in tricolors. Sadly, it's more practical to have some of the orbs not be blue for combos. I learned that the hard way dealing with the demons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 02, 2013, 03:40:10 AM
Sadly, it's more practical to have some of the orbs not be blue for combos. I learned that the hard way dealing with the demons.

It's true. :(

I just giggled like whoa at this anyway. :V Was good enough for just nuking some Echidnas.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 02, 2013, 04:42:10 AM
Welp, spent all my stam, refresh withou waste, spend gain, etc on nagas. Got 4, 0 skillups. Whyyyyyy.. And yeah i know that 4:0 is a pretty expectable ratio but it still hurts knowing i have to wai for so long just to get nothing but crushed hopes again.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 02, 2013, 04:57:49 AM
Welp, spent all my stam, refresh withou waste, spend gain, etc on nagas. Got 4, 0 skillups. Whyyyyyy.. And yeah i know that 4:0 is a pretty expectable ratio but it still hurts knowing i have to wai for so long just to get nothing but crushed hopes again.

Remember, the trick is not to care. Last time I did the Naga dungeon. I just did it because everything else was boring at the time. I got 9 nagas and 2 skill ups.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 02, 2013, 03:21:27 PM
WOW super Kings at the same time as Valk are you kidding me

THANKS OBAMA


Also Lilith MAX skilled

Dammit Chu
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 02, 2013, 04:01:03 PM
Lol... Super king +valk+ dragon plants.

Why is everything i want always on dragon plant day.
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Post by: Chaore on October 02, 2013, 04:35:51 PM
I've only done that in tricolors. Sadly, it's more practical to have some of the orbs not be blue for combos. I learned that the hard way dealing with the demons.

Doing it in tri-colors is really trivial yeah- It;s not much harder in all colors though, it's just a matter of clearing orbs you can't convert.

Given with those orb changers that's kind of amazing. o.o
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Post by: Edible on October 02, 2013, 04:59:16 PM
Two mystic masks outta three runs today.  notbad.jpg

Now I can evo Bastet when that evolution comes down the pipe eventually <3
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 02, 2013, 05:34:46 PM
Doing it in tri-colors is really trivial yeah- It;s not much harder in all colors though, it's just a matter of clearing orbs you can't convert.

Given with those orb changers that's kind of amazing. o.o

Naw, Gabriel gives you Light --> Water and Dark --> Heart, Siren gives you Fire --> Heart, and Hermes gives you Wood and Heart --> Water, which mean as long as Hermes is last that covers everything. Though I forget if I popped the Siren or just didn't have any red to begin with. :V I just totally wasn't thinking about it at the time and then I saw my board and went "Huh. Okay."
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Post by: Suikama on October 02, 2013, 11:08:07 PM
For Healer teams in general you want pretty much everyone awoken as much as possible because you get a bunch of stats out of it.

+HP and +ATK for Valk. +HP and +Atk for Echidna. +HP for Siren (and Auto healll). and +HPx2 for King Shynee. For a total of +500 HP for 1 valk, +600HP if you have two.

It's probably best to save Tamadra for Valks and then just farm and evolve the rest.


Also if anyone else wants team awakening consulting then feel free to ask because I just fucking love theorycrafting
Whoops none of these guys give +HP, its actually +RCV cause that's what a healer team really needs :derp:

Only Valk gives one +HP


oh boy valk tomorrow

here comes the epic failure :ohdear:
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 01:36:44 AM
Valk+superdragon+x2 dragonplants...gahglkasjghasg.kjasgfsafasf.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 01:42:13 AM
i think im just gonna try to all in on valk and think about the rest if i succeed

valk pls ;-;
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Post by: Chaore on October 03, 2013, 01:47:20 AM
...man I think I may pass again. Valk too strong 5 me. ;w;
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 10:49:53 AM
Err.  At valk, almost at 50% (nooo, stupid dark orbs keep dropping! I want to burst nuke her at 55% so no heal!), but dat shield... She maintains it 100%. Its NOT a first turn only thing.

Fortunately I no stoned her and got her to drop anyway! Wooo. Itll take forever to level her though qq.
Now i have to research what healer types to farm.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 11:30:31 AM
What team did you use? Dual luci?

In terms of healer subs you really just need Siren and echidna, which you probably already have, a king shynee and the fourth sub is up to you but usually another valk works best
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
aaaarrrggggggggggggggg i always die to masks why whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

also why does no one have a goemon today why whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

i hate descends so much
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Post by: hyorinryu on October 03, 2013, 02:34:13 PM
aaaarrrggggggggggggggg i always die to masks why whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

also why does no one have a goemon today why whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

i hate descends so much

Replace that with Fire Demons and you have me. I would do it again, but that's 50 stamina I can put toward super metals.
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Post by: triangles on October 03, 2013, 02:47:59 PM
So do I stand any chance at Valkyrie? (http://www.padherder.com/user/triangles/)  I'm thinking no because 95% of the team suggestions involve Lucifer and the rest are mono water :fail:

Pretty much the only reason I'm even thinking about thinking about it because the super dragon kings hit for me smack in the middle of a 2-hour class so there's the 50 stamina I was earmarking up for grabs now. 
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 02:58:50 PM
Yeah, i went with luci,hera,rbk,rbk,ecchi-da,luci. I thought she only shielded once at the start, not every time her shield was going to expire too, blugh. I was average lucky with gleipnir too, she bound one luci and hera.

And im hardly a valk beating regular or anything tri but i certainly would not attempt it with that those dudes.

This was the first thing i really cheesed with luci that i couldnt have done otherwise btw, huehuehuhu. Well, luci as a sub for legendary light war dragon didnt hurt.
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 03:13:19 PM
ugh at this rate i might just have to stick with legend and run with loki/luci

and then get fucked over by bad drop rates
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 03:36:37 PM
SOMEONE PLEASE LEND ME A GOEMON ;_:
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Post by: hyorinryu on October 03, 2013, 03:55:53 PM
SOMEONE PLEASE LEND ME A GOEMON ;_:

I dun have one :(

I should be able to get him next time though.
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 04:24:26 PM
So giving pdx a peek looks like my cosmo venus, valk, ligh ceres, and metatron are the best healers (in terms of stats, particularly attack) to use with valk. Did i miss any? Lucky i have a venus already.

Of course getting to princess valk first will be awhile qq. Maybe they'll release gold snowglobe dragons for christmas =p
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Post by: hyorinryu on October 03, 2013, 04:28:19 PM
So giving pdx a peek looks like my cosmo venus, valk, ligh ceres, and metatron are the best healers (in terms of stats, particularly attack) to use with valk. Did i miss any? Lucky i have a venus already.

Of course getting to princess valk first will be awhile qq. Maybe they'll release gold snowglobe dragons for christmas =p

I dunno if I'd use Ceres or Metatron. They don't offer that much utility, which is the best part of healer teams.
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 04:29:15 PM
wait you have metatron?

then you can just run Meta, Valk, Echida, Siren, King Shynee for now until valk is fully evolved


ugh i might just have to grind luci runs

at least i can use myself as a friend rofl
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 04:40:03 PM
No i dont have meta, was just planning ahead.

Anyway looks like when i level up my valk my subs will be venus, ecchi,siren,shynee...would like someone with raw stats over shunee's active for dungeons that done absolutely need a spike on the boss though. Another valk would work but leveling one up will take long as is.
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
You could always just stuff a RK somewhere in there. You lose out on some damage but you get plenty of HP and an active that's really useful for damage teams.
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 04:52:27 PM
Yeah. Probably.

Super bastet also a healer. Was hoping super homura was but no, blargh. I wonder if super apollo will become a healer type. Doubt it but meh.
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 04:58:30 PM
speaking of homura

madoka collab when

gungho pls
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Post by: Chaore on October 03, 2013, 05:33:38 PM
speaking of homura

madoka collab when

gungho pls

probably be for divine gate
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 05:42:15 PM
nooo gungho are you abandoning us already how could youuuuuuu
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 03, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
Yeah. Probably.

Super bastet also a healer. Was hoping super homura was but no, blargh. I wonder if super apollo will become a healer type. Doubt it but meh.

I heard he was getting balanced.
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 06:53:21 PM
I heard he was getting balanced.

All mystic knights already have balanced silly.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 06:59:26 PM
apollo isnt a mystic knight silly
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Post by: Edible on October 03, 2013, 07:06:44 PM
Hmm.  I want the +eggs I have on some critters I don't use anymore, namely plesios and some other dragons.  Think there's any reason to keep them?
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 07:09:59 PM
oh what the fuck the dark golem stacked attack stance and genocide bit at the same time and hit me for 25k padx doesnt say this wtf gimme my stone back
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 03, 2013, 07:12:30 PM
apollo isnt a mystic knight silly

Blah, i just woke up from 3 whopping hours of sleep and saw homura derp.

And yeah edibeux. I want more +s in general.

Not sure if i should atk+haku or valky. Im thinking valky because she mames a great sub as well as lead, but haku is mostly a lead unless i ever got 2.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 07:33:27 PM
FUCK THIS GAME
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 03, 2013, 07:34:42 PM
Hmm.  I want the +eggs I have on some critters I don't use anymore, namely plesios and some other dragons.  Think there's any reason to keep them?

Depending on the amount of +eggs. If there aren't a lot, I just say keep them. + eggs aren't that hard to come by.
You could probably replace them if you wanted. Personally, I'm keeping my Plesios for sentimental reasons.

Blah, i just woke up from 3 whopping hours of sleep and saw homura derp.

And yeah edibeux. I want more +s in general.

Not sure if i should atk+haku or valky. Im thinking valky because she mames a great sub as well as lead, but haku is mostly a lead unless i ever got 2.

I'd say Byakkou. She seems to be your lead a lot the time, and more +eggs mean more pal points.

FUCK THIS GAME
Did the grass demon bind you yet?
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 07:36:40 PM
im using mono dark so no binds but i always run out of hearts during bosses and end up spending 4 stones AND NO DROP OF COURSE
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Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 03, 2013, 07:40:21 PM
probably be for divine gate

Steins;Gate collaaaaaaaaaab  :getdown:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 07:48:53 PM
goddammit i thought i wouldnt have to keep using this stupid loki team after i did all that shit to get goemon but nooo HES FUCKING USELESS
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 03, 2013, 08:33:17 PM
goddammit i thought i wouldnt have to keep using this stupid loki team after i did all that shit to get goemon but nooo HES FUCKING USELESS
Did you have a maxed Siren? Most dark teams I see usually do it.
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
Yes

team was Loki Siren RK Hera Hera Luci

problem was i just had too little hp to take two hits from valk by like 2000 so if I ever got no heart orbs and no siren I died
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Post by: O4rfish on October 03, 2013, 10:33:24 PM
How are you supposed to use trophy dragons when they cost 50 or 60 each?
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Post by: Suikama on October 03, 2013, 11:11:06 PM
RANKKU UP
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Post by: Suikama on October 04, 2013, 01:42:07 AM
on a random note

hmm these transformations remind me of something... (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1236620800/shantae-half-genie-hero/posts/618078)
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Post by: Suikama on October 04, 2013, 07:29:56 PM
Ready your extra subs

CAUSE VERSION 6 IS COMING OUT TUESDAY
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 04, 2013, 08:34:48 PM
TIME TO FEED ODIN TO ODIN YEAHHHH ./ODIN DUNK
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 04, 2013, 09:10:13 PM
Damn those pesky odins wasting bag space!
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Post by: Chaore on October 04, 2013, 09:15:58 PM
I KNOW RIGHT

nah he'll prolly get to stay, hes a good sub

isis however is getting fed to herself in 2lewd manners
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Post by: Suikama on October 04, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
dude you have multiple Isises goddamn ;_;

speaking of Isis

(http://i.imgur.com/fu5eDfq.png)

MAX level get o/

now its time to go for +297 BV


also remember to evolve everyone before you feed or else you'll be very disappointed :V
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Post by: Chaore on October 04, 2013, 09:22:57 PM
I have two very shiny isises that both came out at carnival level.

If I wanted to I could get 2/3 awakening on her from word go BV
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Post by: Suikama on October 04, 2013, 09:51:14 PM
oh man after i rank up I'll have enough stamina to face legendary earth

too bad it's pretty much impossible to beat without a Ra/Kirin/money
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 04, 2013, 10:08:27 PM
Hurr? But its tricolour.
Ohh. The normal...
Im still slackig with those. Im too busy farming pengs and metal dragons.
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Post by: hyorinryu on October 04, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
oh man after i rank up I'll have enough stamina to face legendary earth

too bad it's pretty much impossible to beat without a Ra/Kirin/money

I think some people 0-stoned it with Goem-*shot*

I decided to try Valkyrie again. I'm still doing it. Do we get a stone today?
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Post by: Suikama on October 04, 2013, 11:08:34 PM
I think some people 0-stoned it with Goem-*shot*

I decided to try Valkyrie again. I'm still doing it. Do we get a stone today?
oh right goemon is possible

if you're whole team is like +297


and uh valk was yesterday

the event is over so no more stones
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Post by: hyorinryu on October 04, 2013, 11:09:42 PM
oh right goemon is possible

if you're whole team is like +297


and uh valk was yesterday

the event is over so no more stones

Oh good. I can take my time doing Valkyrie then.
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Post by: Suikama on October 04, 2013, 11:17:52 PM
you're still missing out on stam though :derp:
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Post by: hyorinryu on October 05, 2013, 12:54:41 AM
you're still missing out on stam though :derp:


It's okay. 'Tis worth.

Who needs Luci? Bleu is the best right now.

EDIT: Oh yeah. Since the new update, I can screenshot PAD on my phone. No more pic-ception for me :toot:
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Post by: Suikama on October 05, 2013, 01:21:39 AM
alllmost beat King of Gods, needed to live for just 4 more turns to get Goemon active

Cant wait for dat patch

Skill Boosts pls
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Post by: Suikama on October 05, 2013, 04:07:32 PM
oh man a new collab dungeon coming up here

maybe eventually they will have the EVA collab *-*
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 05, 2013, 05:01:41 PM
Now that i am trying to level valk. Missin a old metal dragon day will be all the more painful... Worried itll be tommorrow, that be a bad day and they ALWAYS happen on bad days for me qq.
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Post by: Chaore on October 05, 2013, 07:14:06 PM
Oh ECO is owned by gungho.

I guess we get this one after all!
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Post by: hyorinryu on October 05, 2013, 07:37:56 PM
Oh ECO is owned by gungho.

I guess we get this one after all!

Yeah, I was wondering why people were saying we wouldn't get this one. What do you guys want from it? I want:

Green one for Fortdragon
Light one for Balanced team
Dark One for favorite design

I think I'll keep one of each though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 05, 2013, 07:53:01 PM
Imma just hope to skill up my venus.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 05, 2013, 08:24:19 PM
Red for 757. I use it anyways in my mono-red team, so skill up will be nice.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 05, 2013, 08:44:56 PM
Fuck yes, change the world skillups
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 05, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
More like the crushed hopes of one =p.

Anyway valk is at level 50... Kinda sorta almost not really there! Eeek

Gold dragon alert! Soon (but not tommorrow ploz) would be great.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 05, 2013, 10:21:03 PM
More like the crushed hopes of one =p.

Anyway valk is at level 50... Kinda sorta almost not really there! Eeek

Gold dragon alert! Soon (but not tommorrow ploz) would be great.
tomorrow is metal so youre good

Yeah, I was wondering why people were saying we wouldn't get this one. What do you guys want from it? I want:

Green one for Fortdragon
Light one for Balanced team
Dark One for favorite design

I think I'll keep one of each though.
unfortunately it seems that the red, green, blue ones need to be evolved to use as skill up while the light and dark ones dont

it's fortunate for my loki though :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 05, 2013, 10:30:07 PM
tomorrow is metal so youre good
unfortunately it seems that the red, green, blue ones need to be evolved to use as skill up while the light and dark ones dont

From what I've read, it's because the light/dark ones are less likely to drop.  100% chance in the highest  difficulty though \o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 05, 2013, 10:45:11 PM
Bow do hou know tommorrow is metal? Pdx doesnt say yet?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 05, 2013, 10:45:16 PM
Man I could use dark ones for lokiface.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 05, 2013, 11:27:49 PM
From what I've read, it's because the light/dark ones are less likely to drop.  100% chance in the highest  difficulty though \o/

The light one's a boss and the dark one is an invade.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 06, 2013, 12:17:48 AM
Bow do hou know tommorrow is metal? Pdx doesnt say yet?
http://pad.wikia.com/wiki/Puzzle_%26_Dragons_Wiki

pdx always seems to be slow on the dragons for some reason
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Post by: Ghaleon on October 06, 2013, 12:24:54 AM
Nice! Thanks

edit: So I've been playing around with my level 50 great valky, and already I can tell I love her. Haku's great but she's pretty slow at killing easy content since I have to have at least 3 orbs of 3 different specific colours unlike isis... Basically I have to spend a turn or two on random easy trash just to get those 3 orb colours to match sometimes before I can plow thru something even a basic team of 2xers could easily clear. But with my valk lead, I pretty much steamroll every room all the time. Plus once I make her a rose valk, I can pair her up with kirin easily enough if I want to. This way I can get massive 15X burst (better than hakuxhaku!) when I need to, but also get a still-good 3x burst on random who cares trash...or I can kill off some enemies in a tough wave of 4-5 enemies without completely obliterating them completely (problem with haku-haku, I either get myself killed stalling a wave of 5 actually dangerous weenies because without the 3 match she will probably hit them for 1s, or I 1shot the entire wave and leave my pants down for the next).

I just wish she had more sub variety, so limited. Some of the toy dragons should be classed as healers imo, dar.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 07, 2013, 02:28:30 AM
Angelion's getting the healer subtype at some point.

At some point, I should get used to KirinxKirin. Most of the time, I've been going KirinxIsis or KirinxSuzaku. On that note, the master level of the hideyoshi was the first time I took my Kirin team out to play outside of jewel dragon dungeons.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 02:31:02 AM
Took out Legendary Light Samurai Dragon pretty easily. Man the Wood Samurai dragon was wayyy tougher. 2 turn attacks are ridiculously easy to deal with after fighting so many 1 turn 10k damage descend bosses.

Also I ran Ocean of Heaven a bunch of times today and now I have more mystic masks than I know to do with ???
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 07, 2013, 02:40:15 AM
don't they feed for 3k exp? That's what I use 4+ extras for.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 02:54:01 AM
well mystic knight ult evos are coming up and a lot of them need mystic masks so I guess I can use them for that

although then I need 5 dub mythlits too >_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 07, 2013, 03:39:42 AM
well mystic knight ult evos are coming up and a lot of them need mystic masks so I guess I can use them for that

although then I need 5 dub mythlits too >_>

I need so many masks right now. Highlander is still a highlander, and then there's valk. That's 6 masks right there. Then there are the mystic knights. So much stuff.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on October 07, 2013, 10:13:49 AM
For those who are wondering where I had gone...
I basically crawled into a cave and started reading all the fan-fictions on FanFiction.net in a 2 year radius...
Leading into a lack of orb switching...
Ill start rolling them orbs soon...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 07, 2013, 12:04:15 PM
I basically crawled into a cave and started reading all the fan-fictions on FanFiction.net in a 2 year radius...

Oh dear god
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Labuto on October 07, 2013, 12:31:53 PM
In the short time-span of 1.5 months I have read fanfictions with the average word count of 120,000...

120,000 x 125 / 45 = 333333.3 words per day.

I spend 9 hours per day reading them.

333333.3 / 9 = 37037.0 words per hour.

37037.0 / 60 = 617.2 words per minute.

617.2 / 60 = 10.2 words per second.

This is rather scary.

On topic: Damn, you people level fast.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 01:57:40 PM
I grind +egg dungeons which also give a lot of exp :derp:


Also it looks like this week we get 3 biweekly dungeons :o

I hope this becomes a trend
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 02:00:13 PM
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Ultimate Evolution for Amaterasu, Yomi, Apollo are coming soon.
praise the sun arashi


man ammy is getting so many buffs though

maybe ammy+resist can take some descends now?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 07, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/tXwC6B3.png)

omg persephone <3

Edit: For obvious reasons she should've been dark/green though

Edit 2: Side note.  Where's the best place to farm +eggs?  I want to give Bastet a royal workout once I'm satisfied with venus skillups

Edit 3: Vamp ult evo coming soon too O_O
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 03:16:54 PM
Monday-Friday: Final stage of whatever has a 1.5x drop rate of Hyperion Lava Flow to Clayus Prison
Weekends: Final stage of Ocean of Heaven

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Edit 3: Vamp ult evo coming soon too O_O
FUCK YES FINALLY

I'm guessing he'll get 2.5x attack for Dark and Devil otherwise he might outclass Hera Ur


I guess Gigas doesn't get one cause his stats are already nuts :derp:

But Attacker types could use a good leader that's not an EVA monster

Maybe his ult evo can shift his stats to change him into an Attacker type and give him x3 attacker atk
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 07, 2013, 03:54:01 PM
Wow, purseaphone is now babe material. I hope she ends up being useable for me again.

And vampire ultimate is nice. I dont have a duke yet but after getting luci+haku+my first hera, duh. But he's a level 60ish lord so im not far off. I kinda like him as a lord though, great stats for 10 cost if I need a cheap dude, that and he'll be a good statstick for the tengu dungeon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 05:57:26 PM
Awakening tomorrow \o/

unfortunately though there's no x2 skill up rate so I think I'll wait to awaken all these dragons

I think we might also get mystic knight/bastet ult evos, toy dragon buffs, and new Japanese gods in the next godfest
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 07, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
I think we're still a patch behind for Bastet et al, based on the japanese patches.  Hopefully they'll have the patch notes up soon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 06:15:27 PM
Tomorrow's patch number is not 6.0 but 6.0.2 so I was assuming we get a bit more than just awakening
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 07, 2013, 06:46:40 PM
On a somewhat-related note, since we got the eco collab it's pretty likely we'll get the gungho collab or ragnarok odyssey ace collab, which means skillups for bastet and isis <3
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 07, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
praise the sun arashi


man ammy is getting so many buffs though

maybe ammy+resist can take some descends now?

PRAISE THE SUN.

Still kinda trying to branch out a bit (oh god need way more mono-blue leader friends) because Ammy teams take a billion years to actually kill anything, but even before this I had decided she's probably getting that easy gimme Tamadra just since she gets the most out of awakening out of my leads.

Ultimate evolution definitely sweetens the pot.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 07:11:06 PM
On a somewhat-related note, since we got the eco collab it's pretty likely we'll get the gungho collab or ragnarok odyssey ace collab, which means skillups for bastet and isis <3
oh man yes

on the other hand it's 50 stam for just one 50% chance of getting the Isis one so nngggggg rng gonna hurt me again so bad
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 07, 2013, 07:47:06 PM
I guess Gigas doesn't get one cause his stats are already nuts :derp:

Apparently he is along with Vamp.  Neat!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 07, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
Apparently he is along with Vamp.  Neat!

But you shouldn't evo Gigas anyway unless you're running a Goemon team :V

Unless his ultimate's going to give him back some RCV. =P
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 07:57:47 PM
Im guessing they might make him into an attacker with less HP, more ATK, and 0 RCV so you have the choice of ult evoing him into an attacker lead or keeping him as a goemon sub
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 07, 2013, 08:39:25 PM
Hmm, awakening without x2 skillups eh... yeah I'll wait for x2 too even though I'll prob skill up nothing at all from the wait.
So far I'm having no luck with eco alma whatever, she just wont drop (the light one that is). Master is pretty easy despite all the minibosses being able to 2 or 1 shot me, but I'm scared of the other one since they all can basically 1shot me unless I double luci, which...bleh, so slow
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 08:45:04 PM
I dont think legend should be that hard with any x9 team

midbosses either dont hit that hard or have long charge times

and the final boss you can beat down to 50%, pop echidna and then kill


...wow and i just realized the dark one is invade only

gungho pls
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 07, 2013, 09:16:14 PM
Umm.. yeah I kinda doubt I can kill all the minibosses in just 1 or 2 moves even with 6+ combos. Typically when I 5 combo I hit for only about 150kish unless I get 6 dark orbs or something, and even if I do that I'll be in a sorry position in the next move. That and you're assuming I even have the right colour orbs for each boss, 2 hits from regular trash as long as one is a penguin and I'm toast. so it's not like I can take my sweet time for those. and like Is aid before, problem with chinese goddesses is trash... I either don't even touch them, or I ololol overkill nukkkeee them and use up at least 9 of the right colour orbs that I need for the next fight.

I mean it's doable sure but it would require more than a bit of luck I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 09:17:55 PM
channel the power of Leilan

the power of love will carry you to vicotry


Alternatively run Haku/Isis

Match non haku colors for x3 damage to just small waves

store dark orbs and burst down bosses
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 07, 2013, 09:25:00 PM
I dont think legend should be that hard with any x9 team

Hell Master was easy enough with just monoblue. Haven't tried Legend yet but I wouldn't be surprised if something burstier can handle it just fine.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 07, 2013, 09:28:09 PM
Ancient Wood Dragon on the other hand...

dat 16k-19k attack
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 07, 2013, 09:37:37 PM
I died on Heaven sent because I hit the 50% mark at half health. It's such a grind either way. I think I'll clear for the stone and just farm master.

I got dumpty though, so I'm happy.
Im guessing they might make him into an attacker with less HP, more ATK, and 0 RCV so you have the choice of ult evoing him into an attacker lead or keeping him as a goemon sub

He could also be the attacker version of Satan/Zaerog. Being Attacker/Physical with 3.5 to attackers doesn't sound too far out there does it?

Hell Master was easy enough with just monoblue. Haven't tried Legend yet but I wouldn't be surprised if something burstier can handle it just fine.
Mono blue can do Legend. I was just a bit impatient and unlucky.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 07, 2013, 10:08:40 PM
I died on Heaven sent because I hit the 50% mark at half health. It's such a grind either way. I think I'll clear for the stone and just farm master.

I got dumpty though, so I'm happy.

Yeah I got a Tiny on Master already so I'm mostly just looking for the stone. Not sure how much I care about a Dumpty besides for the sake of HAVE ALL THE THINGS, but I figure Tiny's probably worth keeping around since I don't have any other Change the World user yet and that's a useful enough option to have in my box.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 08, 2013, 12:28:00 AM
Well I did do legend but it definitely was close at the end  (dark orbs would NOT appear during boss, not one effing dark orb after 4 turns of 5+ combos.. seriously...oh yeah, and I had one of those random bs unintentional 15 orb combos during wave 9 and blew all of my dark orbs saved up). I had to use my haku cd on the blue girl since she could 1shot me and decided to spawn with an attack count of 2..didn't wanna use my ecchi on her instead cuz not having an ecchi at the start of the boss would be more serious than not having haku ready.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 08, 2013, 01:20:22 AM
I did legend. I was  more cautious this time, though I'm already going in with a double Siren, Midguard, Sieg lineup anyway. I'm not sure I want to grind this. I already have several cacti and I don't feel the need to skill dumpty. Only thing that would benefit from skilling would be Tiny, and I'm not sure if I'll ever use her.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 08, 2013, 11:57:08 AM
No new ult evos yet. :<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 08, 2013, 02:26:03 PM
We got Sylph though, and Flame Knight got a new evolution, which looks pretty cool.

I just fed a bunch of fodder to each other for awakening skills. I just noticed that the Knights don't get them, guess they had the evos in mind for a while.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 03:01:41 PM
dammit no free tamadra and no x2 skill up

guess im not doing any awakenings yet :/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 08, 2013, 03:09:05 PM
I was wondering where the free tamadra was.  Did they just forget to send it out?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 03:17:45 PM
im guessing they're saving it for the next event

hopefully one will start this friday
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 08, 2013, 03:30:57 PM
I thought it was supposed to come in one of those dungeons you can't lose like the Santa Eggs, so hopefully that'll be coming soon.

ALSO ALSO MJP finally gave in and started playing, but he got bored of rerolling very early on so he's going to be rocking that Charmander leader for the immediate future so add him if you want to help a newbie 370,479,279  :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 08, 2013, 03:42:26 PM
What did he wind up sticking with?

Edit: The eco collab dungeon really needs to cost less stamina. :|
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 08, 2013, 03:51:22 PM
Level 6 Succubus :fail:
This was after getting Earth Golem, toy dragons, and a mermaid and after the 5th star egg he was like WHATEVER DON'T CARE STICKING WITH THIS ONE and here we are.   I told him not to roll again until a ~*~GODFEST~*~ so there's a chance he'll have something less terrible when that rolls around (this weekend?)

At least my Ares can help him out with the Charmander start :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 03:51:48 PM
oh you can farm tamadra from ALL dragon dungeons

well I guess that's pretty cool cause then there's a chance of randomly getting tamadra while trying to farm dragons for pengdra

or if I have stam to waste I can dump it all into metal dragons to try to get a pengdra, especially during x2 king days

man gungho start the next event already pls ;_;


also i like how its name is in all caps

not Tamadra, TAMADRAAAAA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 05:16:10 PM
Man I just realized that Bastet being a healer MEANS SHE CAN USE KING SHYNEE

Holy fuck move over Valk/Metatron, Bastet kicks your asses into the obsolete bin so hard

16*3 = 48x BURST DAMAGE COMBOS GET THE FUCK OUT

What that Horus? You wish you could use King Shynee as well? TOO BAD

Also if you don't need burst you can run literally whatever the fuck you want with her because her leader skill has no team restrictions whatsoever

She's probably one of the best leaders in the game now...


...gungho pls buff isis
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 08, 2013, 05:19:13 PM

...gungho pls buff isis

Gungho needs to give Norse gods another buff that probably won't make anyone care about them again first :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 08, 2013, 05:29:04 PM
Suikama: Yeah, I'm planning on running two teams: Healer Bastet and Rainbow Bastet.

My tentative Healer Bastet team will be:

Bastet/Bastet
Valk
King Shynee
Venus
_____

The blank will depend on the dungeon, but can you imagine Athena in that slot?  It makes me wish I had a Parvati.

Rainbow Bastet will likely be a utility build of:

Bastet/Bastet
Hera-IS
Valk
Neptune
Dark Hino Kagutsuchi (dat hilarious attack)

I guess I could put pretty much anything in here and it'd work out. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 05:38:27 PM
You'd probably still want Echidna in that blank spot cause nothing beats her active :V

Same for the Rainbow team

Nothing beats Echidna <3


on a side note, turns out the New Dark Japanese god is ALSO PHYSICAL TYPE

and then THEY BUFFED HIM

(okay they buffed him because of Bastet but still)


4 metal dragon runs

0 TAMADRA appearances

i wanted to see what it looked like :<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 08, 2013, 08:30:07 PM

Edit: The eco collab dungeon really needs to cost less stamina. :|

It would be fine if any of the evolved forms actually dropped. I like that we're getting collabs, but at the same time, I don't like throwing pengdras away and hunting for evolution materials with the possibility of nothing at all. I really don't want the shinra bansho collab, as much as I want a max-skilled drawn joker.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 08:41:26 PM
green golem taunted me once again in the keeper of green dungeon

i killed it and nothing dropped

the drop rate for this dungeon is pretty high too

but no it was not meant to be
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 08, 2013, 08:47:32 PM
I got it to appear too and was looking forward to rubbing in i got a 3rd now. But it didnt drop for me either. POOOR ME! Whyyyy! >=)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 08:48:42 PM
i was gonna draw some leilan fanart for you

but now i changed my mind
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 08, 2013, 08:59:08 PM
I know those golems show up but I don't think I've ever seen them drop.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 09:05:10 PM
Tamadra rates also seem pretty terrible. People are posting thier rates on the pad forum and it seems that on average 1 tamadra drops every 200 stam of runs >_>

at least increased tamadra rate events seem to exist so I guess I'll wait for now

also it still better than the PAL rates
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 08, 2013, 09:23:16 PM
Tamadra rates also seem pretty terrible. People are posting thier rates on the pad forum and it seems that on average 1 tamadra drops every 200 stam of runs >_>

at least increased tamadra rate events seem to exist so I guess I'll wait for now

also it still better than the PAL rates

that's not that bad imo. That's only like 10 runs, and I do metal dragon runs all the time. Consider the fact that what you essentially save is leveling up to pre-ultimate evolution an effing god who takes scads of exp and feeding it..yeah..
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 08, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
on a random note, the android version now has achievements and a leader board for the endless dungeon

just for fun i did the endless dungeon and reached level 49 with Isis

Hera too stronk though
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 01:36:46 AM
holy fuck that comboing skill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCfobdxEBmo&feature=c4-overview&list=UUAhogG3Kumc5JBJUnBcjsLg)

this is why i stick to isis

also dat last combo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 09, 2013, 02:28:48 AM
why are other people such bullshit wizards ;W;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 02:31:08 AM
They probably do rubrics cubes or something
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 09, 2013, 03:33:34 AM
I really wish they had a bigger soundtrack. The music in Athena shouldn't be the same as the music in the first technical.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 09, 2013, 03:52:23 AM
I really wish they had a bigger soundtrack. The music in Athena shouldn't be the same as the music in the first technical.
Also, if you're fighting a miniboss, would it kill them to have a different theme for it?  It felt kinda weird hearing a normal theme for something like a Giant Gigas...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 09, 2013, 04:10:45 AM
Also, if you're fighting a miniboss, would it kill them to have a different theme for it?  It felt kinda weird hearing a normal theme for something like a Giant Gigas...

The only time I've known them to change the theme with collabs. Groove Coaster, Dragon's dogma, and the Airou one all had new stage and boss themes. I wonder if it's something they have to push for.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 04:18:40 AM
Yeesh, I was one button press away from (probably uselessly) fusing my eco tiny to my venus, forgetting that it wasn't 2x skillups until the last second. <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 09, 2013, 08:55:20 AM
Tamadra showed up in my very first dragon dungeon after the update!



Unfortunately, the 3* next to him dropped an egg.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 11:13:55 AM
oh shit Athena is coming

is your body ready edible

also yay free tamadra

that's not that bad imo. That's only like 10 runs, and I do metal dragon runs all the time. Consider the fact that what you essentially save is leveling up to pre-ultimate evolution an effing god who takes scads of exp and feeding it..yeah..
okay turns out its worse than 200 stam per tamadra

it's more like 400

and in the pal machine it's drop rate is around 2%

gungho pls


oh hey they reduced the particles on dark attacks so it no longer lags the game when you do 5 orb attacks with mono dark teams
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 03:48:29 PM
oh shit Athena is coming

is your body ready edible

I was hoping to have OMEGA BASTET ready to curbstomp the dungeon when it came out, but it looks like I won't have that luxury.  I'll have to make do with something else; not sure what else I have that can beat it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 03:54:26 PM
apparently mono red works (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRiXWPdN-iQ)

also I think metatron might work since the bosses are nice enough to heal you to full inbetween rounds
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 04:10:41 PM
Metatron/Metatron and Loki/Lucifer might work.  I suspect I'd have to feed stones for both, but it's a guaranteed drop and Athena's really good so it's worth it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 04:33:30 PM
After testing it, orb changers flat out kill +Orbs dropped with the +Orb skill
So orb changers are actually better off with the Enhanced Att. ability
Which is to say the Riders are actually legit now :o
Although the Ninja changers are still better, if only there was some way to farm them
Also the Elementals with their Ult evos coming up should make them lot better too

Overall though this means the random crap in the REM machine is a lot less useless now. Toy dragons have skill ups now and can work in various teams with their buffs. Elementals can work as subs in burst teams by adding damage and countering specific dungeons. And Riders/Ninjas now add damage on top of their orb changing abilities.


No Awakening skills can save the late bloomer dragons though

god they suck


Also Dark Metatron hoooolllyyy shit

Dark Meta: 2 Dark Enhance x2
Cerebus: 1 Dark E
Grips Rider: 1 Dark E
Hattori Honzo: 1 Dark E

That's 7 Dark enhances with 3 +Dark Orb abilities
Two cleared rows (easy to do with so many orb changers) is 140% extra damage, plus another at LEAST 72% damage from plus orbs.
x16  + 140% + 72% = 66x DAMAGE
Throw in King Flamie for a whopping 198x DAMAGE JESUS SHIT
That's an easy 5 million damage just from matching two rows of black orbs

That's not even all
There's also 6 skill boosts which gives your entire team the equivalent of being max skilled and UNBINDABLE LEADERS

Hooooly shiiiiiitttt Dark fucking metatron
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 04:50:28 PM
Which is to say the Riders are actually legit now :o

Nah, they're just slightly less completely useless.  They're still garbo.  I mean, are you going to waste tamadras on a Rider? <_<

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Although the Ninja changers are still better, if only there was some way to farm them

Well, a less completely obnoxious way to farm them, at any rate.  Ninjas are definitely better than riders, ofc, due to the unique orb changing method (and really short cooldown).  It basically goes ninjas > sticker girls > riders for the mostly useless orb changer tiers

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Also the Elementals with their Ult evos coming up should make them lot better too

Do we know anything about them other than they exist so far?

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No Awakening skills can save the late bloomer dragons though

god they suck

Dragons in general just no longer seem to have much purpose unless you're running zaerog

And if you have a zaerog you already have a team better than anything you could get out of a dragon team
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
Nah, they're just slightly less completely useless.  They're still garbo.  I mean, are you going to waste tamadras on a Rider? <_<

Well, a less completely obnoxious way to farm them, at any rate.  Ninjas are definitely better than riders, ofc, due to the unique orb changing method (and really short cooldown).  It basically goes ninjas > sticker girls > riders for the mostly useless orb changer tiers

Do we know anything about them other than they exist so far?

Dragons in general just no longer seem to have much purpose unless you're running zaerog

And if you have a zaerog you already have a team better than anything you could get out of a dragon team
The Dark Rider is actually optimal on a Dark Meta team as I described above since he is an Attacker

The others are kinda still useless yeah


Sticker girls would be really good if it weren't for the 10 turn CD on their heal. They all get both auto heal and bind heal on top of chaining dual elements into heal orbs for easy bind clear. But the cooldown is twice as long as Siren's so bleh.


Also in terms of dragons, ADK is getting buffed to x3 damage so if you got screwed out of getting a good REM leader then he's the way to go.
ADK with Top Droidragon, Ancient Draggie Knight, Another ADK or a CDK, and an Echidna for good measure, can easily plow through normals and technicals and is perfect for general farming to get you to the descend level. Any subs you dont have yet you can just plug with a high stat dragons (like samurai dragons) and you're good to go with +orbs and skill boosts to boot.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 05:33:50 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/sFS0sLD.png)
finally encountered a tamadra! o/

it didnt drop though :fail:


So Ult Bastet gives no fucks about the new Chinese girl dungeon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D45V5mXerRU)

except against tamadra holy shit those binds rofl
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 06:22:47 PM
So Ult Bastet gives no fucks about the new Chinese girl dungeon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D45V5mXerRU)

except against tamadra holy shit those binds rofl
That's hilarious.

Edit: Tamadra's binds don't really seem to be an issue, it looks like he was rigging orb placement to easily one-shot Sakuya.

I wonder why he didn't use Spread Cats against the tamadra stage though.  Seems like the obvious place to pop it.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 07:15:44 PM
i need a green mask for ADK

so of course mystic masks start dropping like flies

what do i do with all these
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 07:16:21 PM
i need a green mask for ADK

so of course mystic masks start dropping like flies

what do i do with all these

KEEP THEM YOU WHORE
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 07:20:35 PM
i should totally use them to ult evo my starter dragon

along with 2 rainbow keepers and a mythdublit

why to these things take so much to ult evo


in other news the best farming team ever has arrived

5 ultimate ogre team each with max awakening/skill up

plow through mono color dungeons with literally the touch of a button

totally pointless but also hilarious
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 08:54:32 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/oHxXeNtl.jpg)

Hello new Undine.

Also: Zeus is getting ult evos.  One light/light, one light/dark.  I guess I have an excuse to run his descend now <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 08:58:39 PM
2cute

also oh man light/dark zeus would be great for rainbow teams

and possibly other teams depending on if he gets subtypes like God/Devil
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 09, 2013, 09:06:23 PM
and possibly other teams depending on if he gets subtypes like God/Devil

rofl

Poor, poor light/dark hades if this is the case
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 09, 2013, 09:14:08 PM
well technically speaking 5% extra damage for 5 extra turns isnt really a good deal but Zeus has better stats and on a burst team you won't get to use your gravities more than once anyways

still i dont think it makes that much of a difference if you use light/dark hades over zeus

unless ult evo zeus gets a humongous stat boost, then welp
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 09, 2013, 10:11:05 PM
So many good ults lately. Makes old ones like vrita's seem pretty lame. I wonder if they'll ver fix/butf/revamp em.
I mean getting dragon might be nice i guess but samurai dragons kinda put him to shame, and they may get ults later!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 09, 2013, 11:22:52 PM
apparently mono red works (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRiXWPdN-iQ)

also I think metatron might work since the bosses are nice enough to heal you to full inbetween rounds

Well shit, I really need Goemon now.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 09, 2013, 11:47:31 PM
just occured to me... if zeus gets an ultimate, I wonder if hera will eventually too,  I mean I assume she would but I wonder if they are scared of bothering people who maxed out their hades instead since he kinda makes her obsolete.

But then again most other games would just nerf hades instead, which isn't exactly better =P.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 12:08:16 AM
i dont think anyone has been nerfed before in this game have they?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 10, 2013, 12:29:00 AM
Not as far as i know. But thats my point, i like how they buff stuff instead of nerf stuff.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 01:35:22 AM
it helps that this game is entirely PvE so an overall power creep doesnt really hurt anything

alright free Tamadra tomorrow woo
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 10, 2013, 03:40:12 AM
i dont think anyone has been nerfed before in this game have they?

Didn't they nerf mastering?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 10, 2013, 01:05:40 PM
2 skillups out of 5 eco tinys isn't bad.  4 more to go!

I think I'm gonna spend today on thursday/pengdras though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 02:09:05 PM
i dont know if awakening feeding has a higher rate of skill ups or something, but I managed to get 5/9 skill ups including one on echidna

there should only be a 1.6% chance of that happening :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 10, 2013, 02:35:49 PM
I hate you edible.

Fed 9 marine gobbers to siren. Skillup? No
Feed 2 changers to venus, skillup? No
Feed 3 ghosts and 1 succubus to my lilith, skillup? No
Feed 2 heartbreakers, nope.
Feed 2 light samurai war dragons to my 3rd... Light, the one im sure ill never use now that i have to worry about leveling up 2 valks, which im sure will take a lifetime of light exp nomming... TWO EFFING SKILLUPS OUT OF TWO TO THE DAMNU USELESS WAR DRAGON AGGAFHABGDJSHJ.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 02:37:16 PM
Quote
Feed 2 light samurai war dragons to my 3rd... Light, the one im sure ill never use now that i have to worry about leveling up 2 valks, which im sure will take a lifetime of light exp nomming... TWO EFFING SKILLUPS OUT OF TWO TO THE DAMNU USELESS WAR DRAGON AGGAFHABGDJSHJ.
the exact same thing happened to me

maybe awakening skill ups really do have a better rate?


huh, ECO Tiny Alma's stats aren't actually that bad

I guess I should get one just to use as a Change the World sub

also she's monster number 666 :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 10, 2013, 03:11:28 PM
Dumpty's stats are also pretty good if you don't have a loki

Unrelated note: Why does king bubblie get 2x awakening skill boost, but king shynee only gets 2x awakening rcv boost ;_;
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
Because Goemon needed a buff to counteract the Phoenix troll 'nerf'

speaking of which, time to awaken my king bubblie

...shit i need 2 blue kings and i only have one


oh man i have so many shiny orbs everywhere now *-*


holy shit king bubblie skill up
man it has to be higher or something
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 10, 2013, 05:26:00 PM
God, the number of special dungeons on simultaneously today is absurd.

ECO Collab
Hera-Is Descended
Ancient Wood Dragon
Pengdra Village
Tower of Jewels
Legendary Flame Dragon
Thursday Dungeon
Endless Corridors (:V)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
Also TAMADRA Discovered at the very top :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 10, 2013, 05:45:29 PM
Hahaha yeah I forgot about that because it was the first one I did this morning <_<

Not that I know what I'm gonna use mine on yet.  Bastet's the obvious choice but there's no real point until I get one or two more tamadras since nothing uses poison yet
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 06:10:23 PM
You definitely want to eventually max out Bastet though because the 0.5 extra move time really helps for getting those x7 combos (for a total of an extra 1 second for two Bastets!) and enhanced green att is good for the potential 40% damage boost, although it does kinda clash with her leader ability

One thing I forgot to consider for +Orbs is that it's totally random while Enhanced att is something you can control. But also you can store the +orbs so:

+Orb Pros:
They appear randomly without effort, basically randomly adds free damage to your attacks
Can stack so you have 100% +orb drops
Each orb adds 6% damage so just matching 2 +orbs beats out the damage of matching 6 orbs with enhanced att
+Orbs stay as +orbs until you match them or change them so you can store them for when you need them

+Orb Cons:
Totally random, you can't really count on them unless you store them properly
Does not work with orb changers at all
Only stacks up to 100% appearance rate. Having a 6th copy of this skill does nothing
Stacking them doesn't really add more damage, just increases orb spawn rate (which technically increases damage overall but not if you take the time to store them)
Can be difficult to build a team around having 100% +orbs without using crappy dragons (but then again you can just store them and unleash a 100% +orb combo when you need it)

Enhanced Att Pros:
Not really random, you can control when to trigger it
Can use orb changers to easily trigger the 10% or even the 20% bonus
Stack endlessly so a team of 6 Satan can have up to 360% extra damage rofl
You can calculate the added burst for taking bosses

Enhanced Att Cons:
Adds 0 damage to normal matching combos
You need to match 6 orbs specifically in a row just for a 10% boost, and 12 orbs in two separate rows for 20%
Only appears on a few monsters (most notably Norse gods, Satan and Dark Metatron)
Lose a lot of damage by matching in rows

Overall it's best if you have at least one of each on your team because then you can trigger both by storing 6 +orbs and matching them in a row for 46% extra damage woowelp nvm +orbs ftw
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 10, 2013, 06:38:57 PM
Going after +orbs makes way more sense so I'm going to awaken valk to 2 first
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 10, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
Umm... There must be something I'm not getting cuz 6 orb enhanced skill sounds completely bogus the way I see it.

Benefits of matching 3 orbs of any colour: +25% damage to everything after the first match
benefits of enhanced thingie: +10% damage to just that 1 colour? NOT yay

Even with that enhanced attack thing, you NEVER want to match 6 orbs in a row intentionally, because it's far more effective to match 2 groups of 3 seperately,  How is this wrong?

Basically it's just a screwup mitigation skill more than anything.. 2-prong attack sounds more useful if you ask me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 08:38:06 PM
Umm... There must be something I'm not getting cuz 6 orb enhanced skill sounds completely bogus the way I see it.

Benefits of matching 3 orbs of any colour: +25% damage to everything after the first match
benefits of enhanced thingie: +10% damage to just that 1 colour? NOT yay

Even with that enhanced attack thing, you NEVER want to match 6 orbs in a row intentionally, because it's far more effective to match 2 groups of 3 seperately,  How is this wrong?

Basically it's just a screwup mitigation skill more than anything.. 2-prong attack sounds more useful if you ask me.
uh hmm i totally forgot about that

time to crunch some numbers i guess

hitting someone with a x2 combo of 2 sets of 3 orbs hits for 2.5x damage
hitting with 1x combo of 1 row of 6 orbs hit for 1.75x damage + 10% = x1.925x damage

well shit you're totally right, +orbs ftw :derp:


on the other hand for the standard Dark Meta team that gets to stack them, you get 1.75x + 70% = 2.975x damage

in order to match breaking up orbs in damage you need 2.5/1.75 - 100% = 43% so at least 5 enhance att. abilities for 6 orbs to be stronger than 2 3 sets.

and then for two rows you need 7.0/4.375 - 100% = 60% so at least 3 to be even with and 4 to be better

so literally the only use for this skill is for Dark Meta/Satan teams :derp:

well and mono teams that involve a norse god, a ninja orb changer, a rider, and a mythical beast orb changer so uh basically people who dump stones into the REM instead of actually farming :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 10, 2013, 09:45:13 PM
What about Goemon and 9x technique teams ?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 09:48:43 PM
their subs have +orbs instead of enhanced att anyways so you dont really get a choice :derp:


also ANOTHER echidna skill up after an awakening feed

something is definitely strange here

not that im complaining :derp:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 10, 2013, 10:01:11 PM
their subs have +orbs instead of enhanced att anyways so you dont really get a choice :derp:


also ANOTHER echidna skill up after an awakening feed

something is definitely strange here

not that im complaining :derp:

What about Freyr and griffen? Or are saying that they already get +orbed things. On that note, I want a descending boss that enhances blue orbs.

Speaking of descending bosses, I bought Hera-Is for 5 stones. Would have been less, but I kept only healing to within 200 of my full health. I'm want to try it again with one of those switching resist dragons at some point.
Speaking of s
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 10, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
Speaking of wanting a descending boss that enhances blue orbs, you just got one that gives blue plus orbs in one of her awakenings I think
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 10:24:42 PM
What about Freyr and griffen? Or are saying that they already get +orbed things. On that note, I want a descending boss that enhances blue orbs.

Speaking of descending bosses, I bought Hera-Is for 5 stones. Would have been less, but I kept only healing to within 200 of my full health. I'm want to try it again with one of those switching resist dragons at some point.
Speaking of s
With Freyr and Griffon you only get 3 enhanced att abilities. You need to break 5 for it to be worth it and the other subs for Goemon (echidna, RGG) dont have it

And yeah Hera-Is gets +blue orbs

As does Siegfried who is technically a descend boss as well
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 10, 2013, 10:32:27 PM
I think i have a shot at no stoning hera-is but not sure and i dont want to blow 50 stam when i have x2 dragon plant and pengdra village today
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 10, 2013, 10:36:54 PM
Sieg costs 1.8 million xp to awaken though. Hera-Is costs 0.8 million.

Ardbeg ate 3 of his clones and got max caffeine plus 1 skillup! Bodin ate the Tamadra, and Lucy ate a clone.
I have several unevolved things lying around (nagas, toytops, mandrakes, mfk) but they all demand their share of xp. Not enough pengdras to go around!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 10, 2013, 10:40:57 PM
Ill get tamdra later, today is too stam demanding to spend 10 on something i can get later =p
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 10, 2013, 11:24:30 PM
With Freyr and Griffon you only get 3 enhanced att abilities. You need to break 5 for it to be worth it and the other subs for Goemon (echidna, RGG) dont have it

And yeah Hera-Is gets +blue orbs

As does Siegfried who is technically a descend boss as well

But you're making the entire board red/green anyway. there aren't a lot of options for comboing there.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 10, 2013, 11:44:47 PM
well you really dont want to awaken phoenix on a Goemon team because gunghooooooooooo

and Freyr is meh but if you have him on your team then why not


huh after playing with +orbs for a bit, it turns out they only add up when matched together

so if i match a set with 2 +orbs in it, it shows a 1.12x on it

but if i match 2 different sets each with 1 +orb, it shows 1.06x on each

according to the pad wiki, it says that "Each matched + orb will raise the final Fire type damage by 6%" which means that in the second case the final damage gets increased by 6% and then 6% again for a total of 12.36% damage

so I guess just like with separating orbs for combos, separating +orbs also results in extra damage but i'm not 100% sure it works that way
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 11, 2013, 01:34:41 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/x4XppxS.jpg)

About as good as you can get out of this stupid dungeon :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 11, 2013, 02:30:02 AM
I need Dragon Fruits out of that thing eventually, but it never wants to give me any anyway so I just don't bother. 

In other news, finally got my Harpie Demon evolved, so I'm happy.  Used the Super Gold I'd been saving.  Went from L1 to L40.  It was fun.  Not sure what to focus on now.  Maybe Echidna so her stats stop sucking so badly?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 11, 2013, 03:28:24 AM
I need Dragon Plants out of that thing eventually, but it never wants to give me any anyway so I just don't bother. 

In other news, finally got my Harpie Demon evolved, so I'm happy.  Used the Super Gold I'd been saving.  Went from L1 to L40.  It was fun.  Not sure what to focus on now.  Maybe Echidna so her stats stop sucking so badly?

What do you have? Btw, I think I still need to add you back.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 11, 2013, 04:41:59 AM
What do you have? Btw, I think I still need to add you back.
I don't have one of those PADHerder things set up because it takes too long, so lemme look at my box(newly expanded to 60 capacity.  Is that enough?).

Excepting random materials and the TAMADRA, etc. I have:
Icedragon Plesios/L44
Devil Dragon/L56
Undine/L31
Green Dragon/LMax
Hellray Harpie Demon/L48
Vampire Lord/L30
Titan/L8
Pyro Demon/L46
Taur Demon/LMax
Mystic Fire Knight/LMax
Echidna/L23
Dark Dragon Knight/L19
Freyja/L24
D'Spinas/L13
Lil' White Dragon/LMax
Lil' Blue Dragon/LMax
Mystic Stone Knight/L17
Apollo/L5
Puzzdroid/L8

As for adding me back, that's up to you.  I go in spurts playing this due to slow progress, so I can never guarantee how long I'll stay active.  If I start feeling like I'm getting somewhere, I might stick around longer, but if I keep feeling like I'm running into a wall, well...

EDIT:  Edited previous post.  I meant to say I need FRUITS, not Plants.  Those are easy to get.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 11, 2013, 09:46:25 AM
I got 0 plants from the dungeon in like 20 tries when I was new.
Now I need plants not fruit, and the damn final wave always gives me a fruit. yarg.. at least it's still a cool 5k exp.

as for having an on and off schedule. I suggest just not playing much at all, dont' worry about stam.. just log on each day for the free magic stone which is a common as fuu event. hoarde them for a kickass godfest like Id id for chinese+angel. and roll em all. hopefully you'll get something juicy. I got haku and luci and holy carp was that a gamechanger. I went from struggling to clear any master difficulties other than tuesday to doing them without even worrying about whats inside, and being able to clear 4X as many legendaries as I could masters. I could do even more if I wasn't haveing a hard time keeping all my godly new @#%#@% leveled up =P.

Speaking of godfest.. Japanese+angel coming soon. I think I'll pass since I already have a luci and Uriel. And none of the Japanese gods really seem like they'd compliment any of what I have well., Though I'm scared that when Japense gods get ultimates finally, they'll own.. wut do.

Though I think waiting might be smart.. the next godfest is probably something godly like chinese+egyptian.. or chinese+new japanese..
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 11, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
I don't have one of those PADHerder things set up because it takes too long, so lemme look at my box(newly expanded to 60 capacity.  Is that enough?).


You D'spinas, Vampire Lord, and Dark Dragon Knight, so you can make a pretty good dark team if you evolve them. Just get a few Rainbow Keepers and you should make a lot of progress.

Speaking of godfest.. Japanese+angel coming soon. I think I'll pass since I already have a luci and Uriel. And none of the Japanese gods really seem like they'd compliment any of what I have well., Though I'm scared that when Japense gods get ultimates finally, they'll own.. wut do.

Though I think waiting might be smart.. the next godfest is probably something godly like chinese+egyptian.. or chinese+new japanese..

If they get good ults, just roll them next time.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 11, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
Hello angelfest my old friend gimme luci please he's all I want that isn't chinese
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 12, 2013, 04:13:50 PM
I like the Jewel tower. I've gotten a bunch of highs, +eggs, and 2 dub-lits.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 12, 2013, 05:08:37 PM
I named my protagonist in pokemon x Bastet >_> <_<

Hopefully I can give her green contacts or something
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 12, 2013, 05:22:03 PM
Man running an adhoc Suzaku team...

I like the three-color chinese girls, they're actually pretty easy and fun. Maybe I should save my stones for a chinese fest.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 12, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
I like the Jewel tower. I've gotten a bunch of highs, +eggs, and 2 dub-lits.

I get some highs but thats it. Cleared masters 6 times nd haven gotten one single +egg.
+eggs hate me qq.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 12, 2013, 06:10:47 PM
I keep getting one-shot by the boss on master and burst damage teams don't do enough to even significantly dent.

Tower of jewel sucks. >:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Janitor Morgan on October 12, 2013, 06:29:24 PM
Meanwhile I have finally gotten my hands on a tablet to play this on (though it's technically a work tablet so I don't know how long I'll have it). Arashi's advised me to wait for the godfest tonight before I start pulling, and gave me a list of what to look out for; I should be able to post details late tonight or sometime tomorrow!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 12, 2013, 09:50:15 PM
I keep getting one-shot by the boss on master and burst damage teams don't do enough to even significantly dent.

Tower of jewel sucks. >:
I beat it once with my monored because I got lucky and got two green carbuncles that I could melt.  It took 4-5 failures after that to realize that was an outlier.  Now I bring my Astaroth with a Lucifer buddy for the sweet morning star + wood/water counter attacks.  It's slower but with 36,000+ HP and 4x recovery I don't worry quite as much (I still do a little if they're sync uggggh what a BS boss fight)

Meanwhile I have finally gotten my hands on a tablet to play this on (though it's technically a work tablet so I don't know how long I'll have it). Arashi's advised me to wait for the godfest tonight before I start pulling, and gave me a list of what to look out for; I should be able to post details late tonight or sometime tomorrow!
Welcome to the party!  Yeah the Godfest starts 11PM EST so might as well wait.  Archangel Lucifer, who is arguably the best leader, is up for grabs and some people reroll over and over for that guy specifically so a 3x increased chance (of a tiny probability to be fair) at him is a good thing! 

If you haven't already, might as well start the tutorial and just stop before the 5th stage.  Save some time if you need to reroll - hopefully you'll get lucky though!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 12, 2013, 11:29:23 PM
welp turns out the eco dungeon does not get any x2 rates?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 12, 2013, 11:53:16 PM
Does it really need x2 rates?  I think I've always gotten everything to drop.

Maybe x2 would be useful for farming eco tiny in master instead of heaven sent, but...
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Janitor Morgan on October 13, 2013, 03:05:56 AM
Welcome to the party!  Yeah the Godfest starts 11PM EST so might as well wait.  Archangel Lucifer, who is arguably the best leader, is up for grabs and some people reroll over and over for that guy specifically so a 3x increased chance (of a tiny probability to be fair) at him is a good thing! 

[22:01:37] <rdj522> ...
[22:01:39] <rdj522> ...........
[22:01:46] <rdj522> You are going to kill me, aren't you. ;_;
[22:01:52] <@ArashiKurobara> did you get a Luci? :V
[22:01:57] <rdj522> Archangel Lucifer.
[22:02:01] <@ArashiKurobara> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[22:02:10] <@ArashiKurobara> I mean yeah I want one but I'm super-happy for you <3

I honestly wasn't expecting to get it on the first godfest roll I did!

Anyway, my ID is 338,277,280. Let's see if I stick with this and hopefully help people out.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 13, 2013, 03:13:02 AM
MJP got the puzzlemon I wanted (Uriel for more monored shenanigans) but at least now he's got something respectable!  Hooray for newbie luck!

I rolled Yomi, that means I have to go do the ECO collab over and over otherwise I'm going to kick myself in the future doesn't it  :fail:
I still have 19 of the stupid space invaders to feed Ares for skillups clogging my box because I hate grinding for the red lowbie evolve masks :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 13, 2013, 03:21:33 AM
MJP got the puzzlemon I wanted (Uriel for more monored shenanigans) but at least now he's got something respectable!  Hooray for newbie luck!

I rolled Yomi, that means I have to go do the ECO collab over and over otherwise I'm going to kick myself in the future doesn't it  :fail:
I still have 19 of the stupid space invaders to feed Ares for skillups clogging my box because I hate grinding for the red lowbie evolve masks :ohdear:

HAVE FUN EVOLVING TINYS

god I'm not even trying to evolve more than one but I still need a billion fuckin' dubtopalits and for once Friday Dungeon this week dropped all dubmythlits all the time

Sure I needed those too but I need both!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 13, 2013, 03:31:25 AM
Oh, I have enough stones for a roll, why not.

>another amaterasu

:getdown:

I guess I can ... awaken her now? <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 13, 2013, 03:46:22 AM
HOLY CRAP the evo fodder for tiny bear hat girl that is ridiculous  :colonveeplusalpha:

And that's like even assuming I can get them, my best shot is devil counterattack hilariteam since my Metatron and healgirls sure aren't beefy enough and rofl monored heals.  Is master even worth it for the one I need?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 13, 2013, 04:18:41 AM
First Pull AA luci.

With a plus.

What the fuck this never happens to me.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 13, 2013, 06:35:46 AM
HOLY CRAP the evo fodder for tiny bear hat girl that is ridiculous  :colonveeplusalpha:

And that's like even assuming I can get them, my best shot is devil counterattack hilariteam since my Metatron and healgirls sure aren't beefy enough and rofl monored heals.  Is master even worth it for the one I need?

On the bright side, if you just want skill ups, you don't need to evolve the tinys. I'd just stick to master.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 13, 2013, 06:57:11 AM
On the bright side, if you just want skill ups, you don't need to evolve the tinys. I'd just stick to master.

... oh my bad I didn't realize that one had the skill right from the first stage. I'm evoing one the whole way just 'cause I didn't have a Change the World-er to start with but not fussing over skillups so I just assumed it was like the rest of the stuff. :V

FALSE ALARM
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 13, 2013, 01:46:05 PM
Blegh drop rate is trash and I don't have a pressing need for Change The World cause Yomi doesn't fit with Suzaku so maybe I'll just pretend I rolled her in the next Godfest.

But MJP got another stone and rolled Amateratsu so yay but he only has 30 team points total ahh early game.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Janitor Morgan on October 13, 2013, 04:27:18 PM
Early game is kind of hilarious with high-level friends, isn't it? (http://imgur.com/bFKJ0kh,p8kccvL) (thanks Arashi <3)

I'm not sure if I should really be running so many of one color this early on, but Attack Stance - Dark -> Light Orb Change seems to be working well so far.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 13, 2013, 10:18:18 PM
ANCIENT LIGHT DAGooooNNNN

It had to be the ancient dagon for the color I didn't just get a shiny mon for. Buh-

wait does luci count as light for feeding purposes.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 13, 2013, 10:49:01 PM
wait does luci count as light for feeding purposes.

You'd think so, right?  But no, it only counts primary color for the feeding bonus.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 13, 2013, 11:25:05 PM
FUCK
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 12:23:08 AM
ANCIENT LIGHT DAGooooNNNN

It had to be the ancient dagon for the color I didn't just get a shiny mon for. Buh-

wait does luci count as light for feeding purposes.

Don't you have Kirin and a Valkyrie?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Chaore on October 14, 2013, 12:25:16 AM
Don't you have Kirin and a Valkyrie?

I do! Infact, kirin is 5 levels from leveling so I'll probabbbly hit her up first for levels.

Valkyrie is already princess 30, and I really need another valkyrie before I can run her.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 01:21:33 AM
Since it's a light carnival and I want fairlio, I decided to roll. I got Raphael instead :(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 14, 2013, 03:04:57 AM
Got a 2nd valk, yay... Not looking forward to leveling her up though.
My first valk is now a 32 princess. Would be rose but i was short a mask i thought i had.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 14, 2013, 03:06:02 AM
wasted two stones and failed to get valk with goemon because i had TOO MUCH HP to fall right into the right zone after one hit from the dark golem

pls
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 03:22:09 AM
I got a friend request from someone named Ian. He's pretty low rank, so I was wondering if he was someone from here.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 14, 2013, 03:37:25 AM
I got back-to-back Pierdras. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 04:04:12 AM
I got back-to-back Pierdras. :V

Well, I'd keep them in case you want two dark heartmakers.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 14, 2013, 04:06:49 AM
Well, I'd keep them in case you want two dark heartmakers.

Well I was probably gonna keep 'em anyway in case I wanted to use one to awaken the other.

It just kinda amuses me that I had two pulls this fest and they were the exact same (well okay one had a +1 and the other didn't) thing.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 04:09:48 AM
Well I was probably gonna keep 'em anyway in case I wanted to use one to awaken the other.

It just kinda amuses me that I had two pulls this fest and they were the exact same (well okay one had a +1 and the other didn't) thing.

Toydragon awakenings are pretty meh though. I think having two heartmakers are more valuable, especially if we get that collab later.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 14, 2013, 04:18:23 AM
Toydragon awakenings are pretty meh though.

Yeah I just mean either way I'm keeping 'em both around for a while. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 04:29:30 AM
I don't know if I want that collab to come out though. I really don't want to have to farm evo-mats that're exclusive to that dungeon. I hope they make another collab where it's not such a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 14, 2013, 02:31:37 PM
Blegh, my team isn't up to getting Athena without throwing stones away, sadly.  To get enough damage to take out RGG I have to use Metatron, who sucks ass for the rest of the fights.

I'll give it another shot later just in case, but I think I'm gonna have to pass this go around.  Not enough stones to faceroll it anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 14, 2013, 04:37:06 PM
Ohh, I just realized the boss of the chinese dungeon is Huang Long, yellow dragon of the center! Too bad his leader skill doesn't go with his color and type.
Dragons don't have high RCV, and they aren't usually yellow. I think it would be cool if he had some ability like: Dragons ATK x# when ATT x# so the more dragons you link up, the better it gets.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 14, 2013, 04:42:49 PM
oh boy red dragons today and blue tomorrow

time to farmmm
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 14, 2013, 04:47:21 PM
Blue tomorrow is good. I'll get to awaken Bubblie. I only got one king yesterday, but I still got Shynee to skill level 2. You may be on to something with awakenings being higher chance for skillup.

Bubblie has better awaken skill than any other slime. Two turns fewer for Goemon!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 14, 2013, 06:23:29 PM
So...

(http://i.imgur.com/oGBxYOR.png)

A bit of study and planning and I realized I did have a team that could beat it, albeit at the cost of a few stones. <_<

Thank you, Loki/Persephone/Hades/Hera-IS/Siren/Lucifer!  Lost 4 stones including one to refresh my stamina after wiping with the ever-useless Metatron, but after the first fight it was very smooth sailing.  And given what you get out of the dungeon, I'd say it's worth every stone.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 14, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
wait how the hell did you beat RGG <_>
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 14, 2013, 06:30:09 PM
wait how the hell did you beat RGG <_>

Attack attack attack attack -> die, stone -> attack attack attack -> die, stone -> attack attack attack -> die, stone -> attack attack attack
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 14, 2013, 06:33:04 PM
oh he takes 3 turns to charge every attack?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 14, 2013, 06:35:48 PM
Yeah, he counts down from 3 every round ("3" "2" "1") and then attacks, plus I lucked out and he started with a 2-turn timer so I got an extra hit in.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 14, 2013, 08:23:41 PM
Oh, turns out the only guaranteed drop in that dungeon is Athena.  I apparently got really lucky!

In other news, my Venus is now one skillup from max.  Afterwards I will farm Gold Moltdras for two weeks  :moogy:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 14, 2013, 09:29:50 PM
Geez, talk about cutting it close...

Was playing "Flare Knights"(3rd stage of Tower of Flare), fighting the bosses, got Verche and one of the Phoenix Knights attacking at once and there was no way to stop them since I had to kill the other Phoenix Knight who was almost dead...They hit me, and I almost thought it was over when my HP stopped decreasing at a whopping 90  left.

Luckily I then went on to win tne fight, though I was kinda scared at the very end since I didn't have the HP to survive another Verche hit...  I hope this gets more manageable eventually...  Was interesting playing a Water/Dark team thoug.  Having two Icedragon Plesios LSkills going dealt tons of damage to stuff.  It was fun.  I kinda wish one of the Baals on my list was active though at the time. I'm seriously in love with Godspeed Offense.(especially on my main team with my Hellray Harpie leader and two other Demons!)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 10:14:26 PM
Geez, talk about cutting it close...

Was playing "Flare Knights"(3rd stage of Tower of Flare), fighting the bosses, got Verche and one of the Phoenix Knights attacking at once and there was no way to stop them since I had to kill the other Phoenix Knight who was almost dead...They hit me, and I almost thought it was over when my HP stopped decreasing at a whopping 90  left.

Luckily I then went on to win tne fight, though I was kinda scared at the very end since I didn't have the HP to survive another Verche hit...  I hope this gets more manageable eventually...  Was interesting playing a Water/Dark team thoug.  Having two Icedragon Plesios LSkills going dealt tons of damage to stuff.  It was fun.  I kinda wish one of the Baals on my list was active though at the time. I'm seriously in love with Godspeed Offense.(especially on my main team with my Hellray Harpie leader and two other Demons!)


What's your team look like? We might be able to make things easier for you.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 14, 2013, 10:57:03 PM

What's your team look like? We might be able to make things easier for you.
Team I used for the stage I mentioned was
[L]Icedragon Plesios/Frost Demon/Undine/Dark Knight/Devil Dragon/[Icedragon Plesios]

My "main" team, if you will, consists of
[L]Hellray Harpie Demon/Pyro Demon/Icedragon Plesios/Taur Demon/Devil Dragon/[whatever partner I happen to use, though I'm partial to Baal right now for most things.]

I've been trying to level up my Echidna so its stats weren't so terrible since Menace is so useful, and I do also have other ripper dragons and two other Mystic Knights or evolutions thereof.(Phoenix Knight and Stone Mystic Knight, to be exact.)

From an earlier post it sounds as though I've potentially got a start to a Dark team thanks to also owning Vampire Lord, though I've some reservations about trying to level that monstrosity up...(almost 17k Exp for 30-31...)

I wanted to roll this GodFest, but I was short on stones while it was active, so I'm waiting for the next one and trying not to spend any til then so I can get a shot at something useful.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 14, 2013, 11:00:52 PM
Yeah, vampire lord takes a bit, but it's quite worth it. His stats scale rather well. I can understand wanting to lvl him last though.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 14, 2013, 11:15:39 PM
On Friday, use a zombie team or grab a Shiva (I try to put mine on) and get Dub-Mythlit. You have an ogre, right?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 14, 2013, 11:48:19 PM
On Friday, use a zombie team or grab a Shiva (I try to put mine on) and get Dub-Mythlit. You have an ogre, right?
Actually, no I don't have any Ogres.  I just feed em usually, normally to same-color Pengdras which I then feed to my actual party members.  Is a Dub-Mythlit that good as a party member, or do you mean for working on evolving something later(seems kinda early for me to do anything that uses THOSE, so I'm guessing the latter.)?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 14, 2013, 11:49:41 PM
Dub-Mythlit is 1000hp, 800atk, 300rcv for 1 team cost, and no leveling needed.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 14, 2013, 11:58:39 PM
Huh, well it sounds like a really good deal.  I'll need to look into that come this Friday then.  With the Ogre thing if I was doing the zombie team idea, I'd want it as low a level/unevolved as possible, right?  To keep HP down, I mean.

I'd also probably want a rainbow team to do this, correct?  For better chances to deal damage, I mean.  Also I'll require an auto-healer for insurance, IIRC?  This'll be my first time running one so I figured I'd ask about it.  I've only ever done plain teams with no real strategies involved, or the Water/Dark team from before.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 15, 2013, 12:16:20 AM
Zombie team using ogre: The idea is to have some hit points but not too many, and your friend leader is a Siren or someone who heals you up to 70% or more each turn. Since you have lots of Demon attacker monsters, you can easily have a team with not too many hp. The ogre leader ability saves your life if you take one hit at 70% or more life. If you get hit twice in the same turn ... don't get hit twice in the same turn.


Mask/Spirit team using Shiva or Top Droidragon: Have as few colors as possible, preferably mono-red (Shiva) or mono-green (TDD). Bring someone with a breath weapon if you can, like a Tyran or Green Dragon.

Stall without dealing damage for as many turns as possible, preferably 22 turns, until Shiva is ready. Once you use him, if you kill everyone in that turn, his effect will carry over to the next stage, and keep carrying over until you leave someone alive for a turn. If you run out of orbs, use breath weapons instead. A great team would be 5 Red Dragons and Shiva, or 5 Green Dragons and TTD. You'll have to soak the hits from the spirits on the first floor, so bring some hit points.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 15, 2013, 12:35:37 AM
Yeah, you want the ogre to be low level so whatever level he drops at just roll with it.  Same with your team - you can even put evolution mats in your party, since you'll be doing 1hp to the dublits even if your regular puzzlemon were there. 

I actually prefer to have as mono-color as possible so you can burn a sync dublit down quickly.  The way it works is as long as your HP is above 70% of your total, you'll survive any single fatal hit with 1 hp.  Assuming the autohealer is high enough, you'll be auto-recovering enough HP each turn that as long as you make at least 1 match (doesn't have to be an attack) and you don't eat two dublit hits in one turn, you cannot die.  You'll need to stockpile orbs of your main color in the corners before hitting the 4th and 5th stages - you'll likely have at least 2 synced, and it'll take 10 hits to kill one.  Here's a video of how it goes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjrEhUV_eX8 if you haven't practiced storing orbs before, give it a watch so you know what's up.

The other method O4rfish mentioned is running with a Shiva buddy, or I guess now also the Top Droidragon.   The two of them have the active skill that brings enemies' defense to zero - this will one shot all of the dublits with any normal puzzlemon - and it carries over to the next stage if you kill everyone on the screen.  You need to stall on the first or second stage until the active is ready, it's 22 turns so I still recommend a mono-color team so you can just match off colors and stock up the main color as you wait,  Shiva is red and Droidragon is green, but really as long as 5 guys are the same color that'll 2-shot the dublits and 3-shot the dubmythlits if something goes wrong and you need to clear one during your final waiting rounds (boo sky combos) 


EDIT:  ^^^^^^ yeah what he said.
EDIT^2:  If you want add me (number in firstpost, I just cleared out some friendspace) and if you poke me here or with an in-game mail I'll switch to my Siren if you don't have one on your list already.

Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 15, 2013, 01:11:12 AM
Might just do that, though I do have one or two people with fully evolved Sirens in my list another potential one(and one I can effectively toggle on at will if you're online here) can't hurt!

I should probably hunt down Arashi's again if her list is available too because Ammy...  Thanks for all the help everybody!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Janitor Morgan on October 15, 2013, 02:23:56 AM
So it looks like I'm not quite tough enough to take on the Tower of Giants just yet, unless I borrow Arashi's Ammy constantly which I don't want to do. orz

Fortunately Neptune Glacier was a good place to get coins for fusions before bed, (http://i.imgur.com/TCLUrj8.jpg) so maybe I can make it in the next day or so.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 15, 2013, 02:54:43 AM
jq, do you have a puzzdroid?


Also, I would only do the Friday dungeon on 2x drops when your chances are 1 in 3. Otherwise, they're a bit worse. Zombie teams also take forever too. At the stage you're at, I think it may be more lucrative to shoot for Rainbow Keepers instead. Just take an Odin friend and make sure you can heal back about 4k every 6 turns. It'll take a while though, but Rainbows >>mythlits.


Also, got a Tama in the ruby dungeon. This one is for Kirin.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 15, 2013, 03:02:55 AM
jq, do you have a puzzdroid?

Yeah, grabbed it when the event happened recently.  You're gonna refer me to fully evolving it to a Top Droidragon or something for its Search ability since that acts like The Third Eye?  It's something on my list of things to do, just I hadn't prioritized it.  Should I do so?

EDIT:  Also, do we have an IRC channel or anything for P&D?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 15, 2013, 03:06:59 AM
Yeah, grabbed it when the event happened recently.  You're gonna refer me to fully evolving it to a Top Droidragon or something for its Search ability since that acts like The Third Eye?  It's something on my list of things to do, just I hadn't prioritized it.  Should I do so?

Very definitely.  Search/Third Eye utterly trivializes wednesday/friday expert dungeons.  Just charge it up on round 1 and sweep through the rest of the dungeon, since you'll 1-shot every mask and the ability carries between waves if you kill everything in one turn.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 15, 2013, 03:22:23 AM
Very definitely.  Search/Third Eye utterly trivializes wednesday/friday expert dungeons.  Just charge it up on round 1 and sweep through the rest of the dungeon, since you'll 1-shot every mask and the ability carries between waves if you kill everything in one turn.

It's also preferable because if with him, you can take a ogre and an autohealer with you.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 15, 2013, 04:21:16 AM
Wow. (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=38693244)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 15, 2013, 04:28:56 AM
Wow. (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=38693244)
Welp.  Looks like for the first time in months, Youmu's leaving my desktop.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 15, 2013, 04:31:00 AM
Looks like he did a Haku too. (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=38906582)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 15, 2013, 10:09:08 AM
Eh, i strongly suggest rainbow dublits over keepers early game... I got raibow keepers quit early and i never used him until much later because his 25 cost made using him all but impossible with my strter god!

I used MULTIPLE rainbow dublits for so damn long though
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 15, 2013, 01:06:10 PM
Bubbly ate two clones, got max awaken, and one skillup. I think it would be really cool if they had ultimate evolutions, or a standard evolution that required a super king or something.

Anyone have a Goemon I can borrow for Hera?
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Suikama on October 15, 2013, 01:51:39 PM
you can use mine
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 15, 2013, 02:24:27 PM
Eh, i strongly suggest rainbow dublits over keepers early game... I got raibow keepers quit early and i never used him until much later because his 25 cost made using him all but impossible with my strter god!

I used MULTIPLE rainbow dublits for so damn long though

Jq's been playing for a while though. I guess we need to know how much team cost he has to make a decision. Farming dublits sucks though. Especially if your doing zombie.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 15, 2013, 02:35:23 PM
Been playing a while, but haven't necessarily been playing as much as you might think.

Level 51, with max team size of 60.

Btw, I'm gonna guess Hera's a no-go since I dont have poison?  (would need helper to have Rondo of healing, which I don't have either,plus would need to have a Ogre leader anyway.)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 15, 2013, 02:43:16 PM
Hera is technically doable with a resolve team, but you'd be throwing a lot of stones away.  I wouldn't bother with her this early in your PAD career~
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 15, 2013, 03:01:16 PM
Hera is technically doable with a resolve team, but you'd be throwing a lot of stones away.  I wouldn't bother with her this early in your PAD career~
Thought as much.  I just had tovask since I TECHNICALLY have the stamina to do it.  Oh well, time to see if I can beat some other places and hopefully get some decent exp for my monsters or something.  Did take the time to get a RedKeeper for evolution purposes, though part of me wonders if I should have bothered yet.  Oh well.

EDIT:  Just looked and it seems it wasn't a waste, since now I've got almost everything to evo my Echidna when I get her max leveled!  Just need a Rubylit and a Mythlit, neither of which should be hard to come by.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 15, 2013, 05:56:09 PM
Apparently Zeus ult evo is going to require enhance materials that are only available from a different descend, or something (?)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 15, 2013, 06:00:44 PM
Thought as much.  I just had tovask since I TECHNICALLY have the stamina to do it.  Oh well, time to see if I can beat some other places and hopefully get some decent exp for my monsters or something.  Did take the time to get a RedKeeper for evolution purposes, though part of me wonders if I should have bothered yet.  Oh well.

The usual Odin/Chaos Devil Dragon takes a long time too. I'd hate to think how long resolve would take.

As for team cost, you could fit in a rainbow keeper especially if you haven't evolved everything . The vampire lord/dark mystic knight/Rainbow Keeper/chaos devil dragon isn't that far over 60. In the time it takes to get that thing running, you'll probably be able to fit the team cost.

Apparently Zeus ult evo is going to require enhance materials that are only available from a different descend, or something (?)
I wonder why they can't just buff Zeus. It's not his dungeon isn't hard. I can understand Hera, but not Zeus. I wonder if they're going to do the same for Hera. I remember a while back the guy mused about doing this for the both of them.

In other news, wow, hera-Is stats are really good. She's only lvl 26 unevolved and she has ripper stats. Also, maxed skilled my valkyrie and fed 5 blue space invaders to I&I for a skill-up. I don't think I'll be able to max skill I&I.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 15, 2013, 06:03:01 PM
Zeus is still really good by himself.  His leader skill has been outclassed (and was never that great to begin with), but he still has 35% gravity and ~5400 stats.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 15, 2013, 06:48:43 PM
Zeus is still really good by himself.  His leader skill has been outclassed (and was never that great to begin with), but he still has 35% gravity and ~5400 stats.

People seem to prefer weaker gravities that require less stalling. I thought Zeus was really good when he was released, to the point where they had to make preemptive strikes for him and Goemon.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Hyper Dunk on October 16, 2013, 05:07:09 AM
I started playing this on Friday and I'm enjoying it more than I expected to. Right now my party is Machine Golem MK.II, Samurai Ogre, Dryad, Marine Goblin and Genie.

ID is: 314,673,283
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: ErASeR MOdER MAxiMUM on October 16, 2013, 05:10:06 AM
I'd like to think my team is becoming substantially less shit. I also don't think I could make it through a single dungeon without any kind of auto heal. :ohdear:
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 16, 2013, 02:26:05 PM
blugh bastet ultimate evolution where
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 16, 2013, 07:14:37 PM
I'd like to think my team is becoming substantially less shit. I also don't think I could make it through a single dungeon without any kind of auto heal. :ohdear:
What kinda team do you have?  I'm not exactly great at this game either, but I don't end up needing autohealing so much, so maybe I could help?  Barring that, there're plenty of ridiculously good people in this thread as well.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: O4rfish on October 16, 2013, 07:33:53 PM
there're plenty of ridiculously goof people in this thread as well.

Hey!  >:(
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 16, 2013, 07:37:34 PM
Plus at least the auto-heal I bring to the party is pretty damn good auto-heal. :V
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 16, 2013, 07:44:02 PM
Hey!  >:(
You saw nothing.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 16, 2013, 07:48:53 PM
Are you kidding I will claim the role of Captain Goof in all things related to this silly game WITH PRIDE

Super Duper Metal Dragon Kings today awww yeah.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Shizumarashi Mayuzumi on October 16, 2013, 07:50:32 PM
Super Duper Metal Dragon Kings today awww yeah.

And the last normal dungeon I ran left me a hilariously tiny sliver away from a rank up so I can totally run it twice! o/
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 16, 2013, 07:52:54 PM
MORE bloodFOOD for the blood godATHENA
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Jq1790 on October 16, 2013, 08:06:48 PM
Are you kidding I will claim the role of Captain Goof in all things related to this silly game WITH PRIDE

Super Duper Metal Dragon Kings today awww yeah.
Everytime I see Super _____ Dragons show up I'm sad since I can't play those yet.  About what Rank does one have the requisite 50 Stamina for it?  (It costs 50, right?)
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 16, 2013, 08:07:57 PM
Everytime I see Super _____ Dragons show up I'm sad since I can't play those yet.  About what Rank does one have the requisite 50 Stamina for it?  (It costs 50, right?)

Rank 66.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: triangles on October 16, 2013, 10:22:46 PM
Which is just as well, because it took me even longer than that to have a team that could handle a stage one Super Duper Dragon invade - this of course happened my very first time attempting one of these dungeons and it went about as well as you'd think
not well
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 16, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
By rank 66 you should hopefully have an Ogre and a friend with an auto-healer.  Also basically necessary is a poison or you'll be chipping away at a super king for quite a while (guess how long doing 5000 damage to something takes when all of your attacks do 1 damage).

Thankfully, many people have access to Top Droidragon which allows for bypassing of defenses.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 16, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
By rank 66 you should hopefully have an Ogre and a friend with an auto-healer.  Also basically necessary is a poison or you'll be chipping away at a super king for quite a while (guess how long doing 5000 damage to something takes when all of your attacks do 1 damage).

Thankfully, many people have access to Top Droidragon which allows for bypassing of defenses.

Ogres won't work. RGB supers have multi-hitting attacks. 
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 16, 2013, 11:37:59 PM
Ogres won't work. RGB supers have multi-hitting attacks.

Yes, we weren't talking about RGB ones though <_<
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: hyorinryu on October 17, 2013, 12:33:52 AM
Yes, we weren't talking about RGB ones though <_<

You guys just said supers in general though. I missed super metals because they happened while I had a class. Oh well, there's not a lot of dark stuff I care about anyway.
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Ghaleon on October 17, 2013, 12:35:12 AM
Arrrgh. Mystic mask, why you no drop. I wanna rosificate my princess valk!
Title: Re: Puzzle & Dragons 3: Whatever you do, don't spend money on this game
Post by: Edible on October 17, 2013, 01:22:57 AM
Crap, I'm just a couple thousand xp away from leveling to get another shot at the super kings.  Oh well.